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0:43On today's episode, previewing week two of the NFL season.
0:46We saw week one, so we figured everything out.
0:49We know everything that's going to happen, right, Greg?
0:52That's right. And by that, I mean, I'm throwing everything out that happened in week one and I'm starting fresh in week two.
0:58It's a clean slate. Clean slate. Yeah, nothing really mattered in week one.
1:02It's all about what happens in week two. We're going to reject everything we saw in week one.
1:07Well, not everything. The things that confirmed what we already believed, that was real.
1:11The things that went against what we thought, it's week one.
1:14It doesn't matter. That's right. One stat from every game coming up.
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1:42Additional taxes, fees, and terms apply. Welcome to the The Ringer Fantasy Football Show.
1:47My name is Danny Heifetz and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlbeck and we are previewing every game of week two.
1:53We're going to give you one fact, stat, a little nugget for every single game of week two.
1:58A little nug. Yeah. Chicken nugs, baby. All right.
2:01We're going to start with, I think we have to start, I want roughly chronological order here of the, the way the
2:07games are going to go on Sunday. But I want to start with, I think Bengals are at the Houston Texans.
2:13I feel like that's probably the biggest game in that early window, which we can never agree on what it should be
2:20called, but I'm going to go with the early slate.
2:231 PM Eastern, 10 AM Pacific. You're the only one.
2:26You're right. I am upset. I've never heard anyone in my life, East Coast or West Coast, have an issue with how we discuss the early slate.
2:33My one fact for Texans Bengals is that C.G.
2:36Stroud's last three games, he had five fumbles versus the Steelers, four interceptions versus the Patriots, and then two fumbles last week
2:42versus the Bills, including a game ending one where all he had to do was throw it out of bounds or into the end zone.
2:50And now they're playing the Cincinnati Bengals, who forced four turnovers last week, including three against Baker Mayfield.
2:55This game is really funny because one for some, I find myself out of the three of us here, defending Stroud the most.
3:01I feel, I think we're placing way too much emphasis on him fucking at that fumble at the end of the game.
3:08I really think he just like tried to step up in the pocket and make a play and he got stripped.
3:14But this game's weird because you're putting a lot of pressure on Stroud in this game, which I understand.
3:19Nico Collins might not play in this game. Nico Collins hurt his hamstring midweek, which just, just kills you.
3:25There's just nothing worse. I got Nico Collins in my high school league.
3:29You see the little cue pop up on a Wednesday.
3:32I'm like, he played the whole game. He had like 80 yards and a touchdown.
3:36He looked great. What's the problem? And it's like, hurt it in practice.
3:40Now he's getting, he's undergoing tests. It came out into grade one hamstring strain, which is best case scenario.
3:45I don't know if he's gonna play this week.
3:48I feel like it's hard to hurt your hamstring on Wednesday and play Sunday.
3:52Probably not. This is not right or fair, but something about your player getting hurt in the middle of the week at practice feels like a betrayal.
4:00It does. Because at least if you, if you had a bad week before you, you kind of, but you made it out a lot.
4:07When your player's not injured on Sunday, that's like the one thing you have.
4:11If you lost, you're like, at least my team is healthy going into next week.
4:15So it is actually shitty. So now CJ Stroud doesn't have Nico Collins.
4:19He doesn't have Jaden Higgins, the rookie who tours ACL.
4:22So we're working with like Hutchinson, Jalen Knoll, uh, Jared Wayne.
4:25I was, I was gonna ask you guys about Jared Wayne is like the first true NPC of the season.
4:31He's going to play probably he played last week.
4:34Yeah. Yeah. You'd catch, but I'm like, he's going to be on the field.
4:38So I just think this is a huge game for, I guess we disagree.
4:42I just look at Stroud as it's again, if he does a Darnold and the Texans go and win the Superbowl, CJ
4:48Stroud's going to get like the biggest contract in the NFL probably.
4:51Cause they're not going to be able to lose their Superbowl starter.
4:55So he'll just have, but if CJ Stroud has a horrific season, there's a world, the Texans are like maybe thinking about replacing him.
5:02He is the biggest variance of any quarterback in the NFL this year in terms of range of outcomes.
5:07And I still think a great quarterback's in there, but yeah, it's like the offensive line for Houston was both better than
5:14it looked and also impressive and unimpressive at times.
5:16The run game looked better than we hoped. I thought the pass protection was confused at best, uh, at important moments in the game.
5:23But again, the Bengals, I don't think the Bengals defense is great either.
5:27It's vulnerable, but the Bengals clearly are trying to make up with explosive defensive plays and just kind of, they're just going for the ball.
5:34Baker's at liable for it. Baker's led the NFL on fumbles last three years or co-led, but like Stroud is too.
5:40I'm just saying Stroud needs to protect the ball.
5:43If the Texans defense gets back to being elite, literally all Stroud has to do is not turn the ball over twice every game.
5:50DK, do you have a feel between Xavier Hutchinson, Jalen Nolan, Kayshawn Booty?
5:54If, if somebody had an eco Collins or if you're looking for, you know, if you have Ladd McConkie or something like
6:00that, who might not play this week, do you think any, any Texan is worth starting or no?
6:05Probably not. Um, I think I would, I guess I would lean like Hutchinson or Booty, one of those two, because they're going to be playing the most.
6:13I don't have a strong lean either way on those two because Booty just got there.
6:18Hutchinson's kind of been around, so I guess I would probably say Hutchinson, but, um, I don't feel confident.
6:24I think this passing game could suffer, could in the, and that could have ramifications for the run game, which we saw take off last week.
6:31I thought the, the Bengals defense was, was pretty interesting, at least relative to like, I think what we've expected from them
6:37over the last few years, where it was just like a hot knife through butter.
6:42Anytime you go against the Bengals, um, the Dexter Lawrence addition looked good boy.
6:46Mafe had a sack. They, I think they had four strip sacks or sorry, four, four, four fumbles, uh, against the, uh, against the bucks last week.
6:54Not to say that they're like a great defense now, but I do think they can certainly make more problems for an
7:00opposing quarterback than I think we expected last year.
7:03And so, um, yeah, I, I don't know. I, I, I would probably stay away from the Texans offense in this game.
7:09I think you played David Montgomery. Yeah, for sure.
7:12But the passing game is hard. I think the other thing is Joe Burrow has a back injury.
7:17He see, it seems like he both has speaking midweek injuries.
7:20Burrow has a back issue pop up. I think he got hurt on Sunday.
7:24It seems like that play where Alex Anzalone, the linebacker for the books just popped him going out of like right at the pylon for a first down.
7:32And it seems like Burrow probably got hurt there, but then has this midweek back issue.
7:37And he seems like he's going to play. And I don't know if it changes anything.
7:41Yes. You're going to play Jamar chase. I think you played to Higgins, but it wouldn't be shocking if that wasn't a great game for him.
7:49The person I kind of think is somewhat benchable is Joe Burrow, because I don't like Joe Burrow with back issues versus the Texans.
7:56But also I'm a little skeptical that Burrow is going to play as well as Josh Allen, because he's not as mobile.
8:02But if you have Joe Burrow, you probably don't have a quarterback that you're willing to bench him for.
8:08But I'm not necessarily as bullish on Burrow this week with the back injury.
8:12But if you're a Bengals fan, you're nervous. Yeah.
8:14Burrow versus the Texans defense is not a great comment.
8:17Yeah. We have Burrow as a fringe starter. He's like the 12th quarterback ranked in our rankings.
8:22And I think that's right. I think like, yeah, if you have somebody who's like your backup, like a, like a Jordan
8:29love against the jets, like, I think it's totally fine to consider playing him.
8:33I can't believe we're here with Burrow. This is another dead dove.
8:36The quote from Burrow today or was, was if I'm not getting surgery, I'll be out there.
8:41I'm like, that doesn't make me feel good. That's the bar.
8:44Like you are. That's like where your head's at.
8:47He's like, well, I don't need surgery. So I'll play.
8:50It's like, Jesus Christ. I think that it was a response to him being last.
8:54Would you miss time? And he was like, no.
8:57But I mean, again, it's Burrow. It's so funny.
8:59I was so. He didn't throw in practice yesterday.
9:02No. And again, Burrow has missed time. I mean, he's missed half a season, three times.
9:06Turf toe last year, wrist injury ACL. And that doesn't include like an appendectomy that cost him all of training camp once
9:13a strained calf finger injuries, knee injuries. Like he takes a lot of hits.
9:17That's the Bengals line gets blamed, but it's kind of Burrow style of play.
9:21Burrow is going to try to scramble in the pocket, extend plays, and he wants to get rid of the ball as
9:27late as possible to create a big play. And he's willing to take a sack or a hit to create an explosive play.
9:34The downside is, it's kind of just, this is just the new reality is Burrow's just always has something injury wise.
9:40And it's, it's, it's a choice. It's downstream of the choices he makes of the way he wants to play football, which
9:46is also why everyone loves the way Joe Burrow plays football and his fearlessness.
9:50But yeah, I think Bengals fans are probably freaking sick that there's another midweek, like another issue with Joe Burrow already one game into the season.
9:58Let me ask you a question here. DK, I'll ask you.
10:01Always like putting you on the spot. Nico Collins is not practicing today.
10:05It's Thursday as we're, as we're recording. He's probably not going to do anything all weekend.
10:10If let's say it's Sunday morning and Nico Collins is out there warming up and it's like, he's, he's a game time decision and it's a report.
10:17Don't do it. Nico Collins is going to start week two against the Bengals and play through this.
10:23He feels good. Yeah. Are you playing him or no?
10:25I mean, of course the, the there's caveats. It depends on your team, of course, but I'm trying as hard as I
10:32can to avoid doing that, you know? Um, just because I think this was a rule that we came up with last year.
10:39It's like, if he's, if he's trying to make it work the morning of the game, just don't put yourself through that.
10:45Don't put yourself through that. It doesn't, it usually doesn't work out.
10:48It's a high, high degree or high, um, probability of re-injury or whatever.
10:52I don't know. It's to me, that's just like not good process really.
10:56And so if you have another option, go with the other option, especially when it's like the one PM, the early slate where you have other options.
11:04I, the last year we decided that if to your DK's point, basically never do it because the answer always seems to
11:10be, if the training staff that is a professional football team's training staff is not even sure about the injury and until
11:1690 minutes before the game, how are we supposed to be?
11:20That that player is healthy. It's like so low that you just see the little name pop up and you're like, if
11:26you could watch them, I don't know. I probably not.
11:29So especially the fact that it was Wednesday, I think that's the answer is I would not play Nico this one.
11:35So watch you go off. Sorry, Craig, uh, DK.
11:38All right. We got Vikings at bears. Exciting game.
11:40My one stat for this game is that last year, Brian Flores and the Vikings defense blitzed Caleb Williams on 48% of
11:47his drop backs in two games, including one game where that number was 68%.
11:51So I'm expecting a kind of fireworks style game here where the Vikings try as hard as they can to get Caleb
11:57Williams out of whack and making bad decisions or throwing off his back foot or trying to escape and making a bad decision.
12:04Um, and there's going to be a ton of pressure in, in those two games last year, Caleb was pressured 35 times, four sacks, eight quarterback hits.
12:11Uh, they split the, they split those two games.
12:14There's one once lost ones. Um, so I'm, I'm just really expecting the Vikings to throw the kitchen sink at Caleb in,
12:20in this game, or maybe like if they want to really change things up, maybe they won't like blitz as much and
12:27kind of see how he can react to just playing in structure.
12:30I don't know. I just think it's going to be a fascinating chess match.
12:34Our former colleague, Steven Reese would always talk about how Brian Flores is kind of like the, um, the, that little like
12:41sign of like, are you tall enough to ride the ride at the quarterback position?
12:45And if you're a big boy, you can beat what Flores is doing, but all the quarterbacks that are like not really
12:51good enough to cut it, just get absolutely put through the, like the wood chipper.
12:56And then guy, it takes guys like Stafford and like better quarterbacks can really shred it.
13:00But it's like, if you don't know what you're looking at, it looks just absolutely like quarterbacks can handle it.
13:06And I think Caleb is good enough to shred it.
13:09Last year. I agree with you. I think in the way that he's made jumps each year, I think in what we
13:15saw last week, I agree that I think he can handle it.
13:19But last year in those two games, he completed 55% of his passes, average 200 yards passing a game and had just
13:25one touchdown with a 78 press rating. Well, 43% pressure rate.
13:28They played them week one. One of their two games was week one, the very first game with Ben Johnson and Caleb.
13:35So I, that was like, that was the one they lost.
13:38Yes. And so, you know, I might, I might throw that one out a little.
13:42They, they, they won, they beat Minnesota in week 11 last year.
13:46Right. Yeah. Yeah. They beat up 19 to 17 in week 11.
13:49Um, but yeah, I think, you know, what we saw last year or last week from the Vikings, 78% of this dropbacks,
13:56uh, for the Packers, the Vikings blitzed, they were just sending that crazy 78% of dropbacks.
14:00So basically, you know, and by the way, on the one, on the throws or dropbacks that they didn't blitz, Jordan Love was completely unaffected, ineffective.
14:08He was completely out of sorts. Yeah. Um, because I think he was just expecting it's like, you know, where, where someone
14:14is expecting something and they don't know what to do when it doesn't happen.
14:18Like even when they didn't blitz, he, I think his numbers were absolutely atrocious.
14:22And so, yeah, it's like, it's like telling someone I'm going to scare the shit out of you in the next week.
14:29Yeah. And you just go about your day. And every time you around the corner, is it there?
14:34Yeah. That's the question. Someone has Ben Johnson at his press conference this week.
14:38They're like, since you've gone against Brian, because obviously Ben Johnson was with Detroit before he's like, have you gone against Brian
14:44Flores so many times that do you think that you're like, I know what he's going to do, but I'm wondering what he thinks.
14:51I think that he thinks that I think that he thinks that you'll think what he's going to do.
14:57Ben Johnson was like, exactly. Yeah. It's like, how many layers deep does it go?
15:01And, uh, the other thing I want to say also Jordan Mason, the Vikings running backs on injured reserve, the broken thumb.
15:07So I think if you have Aaron Jones, you play Aaron Jones this week because he's going to get a ton of touches.
15:14They signed, they have Demond Claiborne who's a rookie, but they have DJ Dallas signed and I feel like he's going to
15:20end up rotating in just, yeah, I think he'll play in front of Claiborne.
15:24Yeah. At least that's what they were doing in the preseason.
15:28Uh, and obviously Kyler Murray has a concussion. We'll see.
15:31I'm kind of surprised that Kyler Murray, I just, we'll see what happens.
15:34I feel like Carson Wentz should play this game, but we'll see if it's Kyler Murray or Carson Wentz.
15:40Either way, I am a little dubious of either, to be honest.
15:43Yeah. You guys think we're, you're still not playing someone like Jordan Addison, despite playing the bears defense.
15:49I think zero points last week. Yeah. He had zero points, but also Carson Wentz came.
15:53I think the bears, the chance that the bears are just a shootout team this year, I would play Jordan Addison.
15:59I'm willing. I mean, it depends on your options, obviously, but I'm not like you have to bench him because there's a
16:06chance that this game is an absolute shootout and the bears can't stop even Carson Wentz.
16:10Um, I mean, do you guys feel, I mean, I just Jefferson, obviously it's, I have, I have a fantasy face blindness for Jordan Addison.
16:17So I'm just not going to start him because I never see him there.
16:22Um, I think there are, there are worse. There's worse process than, than picking the number two on an offense, playing the bears, honestly.
16:28Like I, I think that's somewhat sound. And if you go down that way, I don't think that's super regrettable.
16:34And when sir, Kyler, I yeah, this week in particular, I think it's worth it.
16:39I also want to just note pro football talk at this.
16:42Caleb is one touchdown away from throwing 50 touchdown passes before he throws 15 interceptions, which the only quarterbacks to do that
16:48are to do that are Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson.
16:51Wow. Wow. Yeah. By the way, this is one of those rain games, right?
16:55Chicago weather is supposed to be 75% precipitation on Sunday.
16:58I think everything east of the Mississippi is like, you have to check the weather this week to be honest.
17:04Could get messy. Uh, Steelers at Patriots. That's right.
17:06Speaking of east of the Mississippi, my one stat is not a stat.
17:10It's a question. Okay. And the question is, is the week two wide receiver lineup for new England, the worst set of
17:17wide receivers Drake may has ever had. Oh, interesting.
17:19Cause it was real bad last year. It was, but last year he had Stefan Diggs and Kayshawn Booty.
17:25This year he has, or this week, he has no AJ Brown.
17:28He has no Diggs. He has no booty. That sounds funny.
17:31And, but, but he has Romeo Dobbs. He has Mac Collins, Kyle Williams, and Demario Douglas.
17:36Those are the four receivers that Drake is heading into week two.
17:39Even in college, you had Josh Downs. Seriously. So look, I think where I'm at with this is I would probably like to nominate Romeo Dobbs.
17:47It's like a screaming by low. Oh, I think this is a good call, Craig.
17:51I think he's been good his whole career. And I, I thought he was really reliable in green Bay and is a good player.
17:58And he had a really bad drop on a big third down.
18:02And they cut to him 10 times on the bench because Mike Vrabel paid the broadcast to just show somebody else screwing up, I think.
18:09And so it was, and he, and Romeo Dobbs like devastated.
18:12He was like so upset with himself. He's, he's a very good player.
18:16The Patriots gave him $68 million. Um, so I, I would say that, you know, I don't think Joey Porter's playing in
18:22this game, the cornerback for the Steelers, the Steelers and him are in this weird standoff right now where the Steelers didn't
18:29give him a contract in the off season. And now they have a rule where they won't sign anybody after the season begins.
18:35And now Porter's not on the injured list anymore.
18:38So now they're almost like making Porter look bad because he's kind of deciding not to play because he's, he's not hurt.
18:44So, Well, his back hurts or it was hurting.
18:47It was hurting, but now that's not the case.
18:49Now he's off the injury report. Now he's pulling landscaping duty.
18:53That's right. Um, fingers hurt. So anyway, I, I wanted to nominate Dobbs as a, as an option.
18:58I would also say Travion Henderson is back for running back for new England, who I would be a little bit nervous about starting Henderson.
19:05I think, um, he, he had big pops last year and could like in one people many weeks, but the Patriots could not run the ball last week.
19:13They had the lowest yards per carry in the NFL last week, uh, 2.6 yards per carry.
19:18Um, and the Steelers have a pretty good run D and it looked good.
19:22And I actually thought they did a decent job against B John on the ground.
19:26So I'm a little nervous about, I think this game is going to be more ugly than fun, I guess is my prediction.
19:33Yeah. I can see that as well. I'm jealous of the Dobbs take because you're right that that's one of those, the Dobbs drop.
19:40If it happened in a game at 1 PM, Easter, sorry, I keep, I'm not trying to dig at you guys.
19:46Just like, if it happened in the early slate amid eight other games, it wouldn't be such a huge narrative that Dobbs cost them this game.
19:54It like, as opposed to being the first game of the season.
19:57And we'd be, we'd probably just be like, AJ Brown was hurt.
20:01So Romeo Dobbs is probably going to be playing pretty well, but because he had a, he had a terrible game.
20:07The most obvious answer is the giant, the free agent that they gave a giant contract to who had a bad week.
20:13One will probably be the number one guy for the next five weeks while AJ Brown's out.
20:18A hundred percent. I very much agree with that.
20:21I also think that like Ramondre is not a good as good of a, or is it a Ramondre Stevenson such a better pass protector than Trayvon Henderson.
20:29And I think they're going to need it against Pittsburgh.
20:32So I, I just, and, and, and Travion's coming off this ankle thing.
20:35I feel like it's more likely that Travion has like seven or eight carries in this game than he does like 14.
20:42How are you feeling about this game, Craig with the Steelers?
20:45I mean, I think the Patriots overall as a team are a good sort of bounce back team this week because of
20:51a really crappy week one against a really great defense in Seattle.
20:55How are you feeling about this game in particular?
20:57I think the Steelers have a shot to be honest with you.
21:01I think the Steelers are a pretty good roster.
21:03And I think, um, I do. And I think Rodgers is like, no, that's what my dad says about every game.
21:10He's like, I think they, I think they have a shot.
21:13I'm like, yeah, the spread's like four points. Well, I would say that most people see this, the sticker price of this
21:19game and just looking at Patriots versus Steelers, they would say, oh my God, Patriots are going to win this game.
21:25But I don't know. I just think, I think Rodgers played better than people think last week.
21:30And I think the defensive line is really good.
21:33And I think their defense in general is really good.
21:36And I don't know. I think they beat the Patriots last year.
21:39I think the game will be close. We're going to learn a lot about the Steelers this week.
21:44That's right. One person I want to shout out on the Pittsburgh offense is DK Metcalf, who had a horrible week one.
21:51I asked Craig halfway through the, the game when it was like really close to the Falcons were kind of sticking with them late into the fourth quarter.
21:59I was like, how are the, how are the Steelers not dominating this game?
22:03And Craig just responds, DK Metcalf. 100%. He had like three crucial boneheaded plays, uh, just dimes by Rodgers that he, he dropped.
22:09But I just want to say that I, the Steelers are using DK Metcalf differently this year than they were last year.
22:16Very differently. Last year he was just running down the sideline and now he's doing a lot more over the middle stuff, crossing routes, slants.
22:23They're moving him around more. His air yards per target were way up in week one.
22:28It was like 17 versus 10 last year. So even though he didn't have a great game and I think this week
22:34he might get shadowed by Christian Gonzalez and might not have a good game.
22:38I think DK Metcalf is, is the number one in the Steelers offense.
22:42I just realized something. I just realized something, you know, like it, I, there's a chance and it sounds like a joke,
22:48but I'm serious that the version of, you know, when Cooper cup, I was having breakfast with Matt Stafford every morning and we're like, Oh, whatever.
22:56It's who cares? And then he won the triple round.
22:59Rogers and DK. The chance there's a chance that DK Metcalf saying, I think there's a city underneath Antarctica was actually a
23:05signal that he's the most underrated receiver in fantasy football, because I fear that we actually really underrated the difference between Aaron
23:11Rogers signing with the, the Steelers last year in June.
23:14And like how, and how much Aaron Rogers requires being on the same page to throw anyone the ball versus having like
23:21way more time this year and like doing all that off season work in the second year that there's a chance actually
23:27that relationship, like he's just trust him to be where he needs to be.
23:31And we'll throw in the ball like way more frequently.
23:34Fantasy points. The, the, the strongest R factor or whatever in fantasy points, the strongest correlator for Aaron Rogers fantasy points is
23:40how willing are you to sit down and just listen to him talk about stuff?
23:45How, how long will you sit there and nod when he's talking about civilization under Antarctica?
23:49Yeah. Cause it could really go two ways. Either DK Metcalf is gullible and impressionable.
23:54And it was like that really? Wow. Antarctica underneath Antarctica, or he's a genius.
23:58Yeah. He's like, I'm going to sit down, listen to all this bullshit.
24:01Say, I agree. And I'll be the number one target.
24:04It's like the usual suspects limp turns into a lock thing.
24:08Yeah. That's the DK Metcalf. Shout out my quarterback.
24:10That's not bad. Uh, okay. Uh, Philadelphia Eagles are playing the Tennessee Titans this week.
24:14My one fact for this game, do you guys know how many passing yards Jalen hurts had on first down last week?
24:21Oh, I bet it's great question. How many? Zero, zero.
24:24I couldn't believe it. Uh, that's, that's, I'm telling you, I watch when I, I watched every single snap because of Saquon,
24:30when I have a guy on a team like I, that I spent a lot of money on or picked her, I,
24:36I will watch every goddamn snap like intensely. And I was furious about the Eagles off.
24:41Yeah. I, so this is the most unwatchable game maybe of the year.
24:45So I was gonna say the Eagles Titans is the three and out bowl.
24:49Like these teams, the last year or so have gone three and out as much as any team.
24:54Like they're up there with the Raiders and the Browns for going three and out.
24:58And again, I think what it really comes down to is it's the, the Eagles are going, and that's what it comes down to.
25:05How does the tush push team go three and out like that?
25:09It doesn't make sense, right? It's first down is the Eagles problem because when the Eagles two years ago were there, Saquon's
25:15getting five yards a carry or whatever, then the Eagles are in second and five.
25:20And then you just run again, then you have three plays to get five yards.
25:24But when the Eagles get second and nine, then they run it again and it's third and eight.
25:29And then it, Jalen Hurts just throws up a deep ball on the sideline to Devante Smith.
25:34And then it works two of the, two of the six times and the other ones, they just punt.
25:40And so that's the issue to that point. I couldn't believe this last week, Philadelphia averaged 1.95 yards per play on first
25:46down 1.95, 1.95 yards is five feet, 10 inches.
25:49That's me. That's like, I'm five, 10, you falling down.
25:51If I stood on the line of scrimmage and fell forward, that is how far the Eagles gained on first down last week.
25:58I love that visual. I've just just tipped over.
26:01What's that Simpsons meme? Just through the way. I'm if I'm just, if they just threw me forward, if I did the
26:07tush push and just fell down, that's the Eagles first down.
26:10Dare I say not good enough. Yeah, it's the three and a half thing is funny because that means they couldn't even
26:17get to fourth and one because if you get to fourth and one, wouldn't they just, so it's really like, they only
26:23need eight yards, really not eight, nine yards. And they can't get that even.
26:27Exactly. That's the thing. This is the, the answer is yada, yada, yada offensive line.
26:31And the offensive line is not the same. Landon Dickerson's gone into injured reserve, which I don't even know if I want
26:38to say that's a downgrade because he just was playing hurt.
26:41He was trying to tough it out. He's one of the toughest players in the entire league.
26:46And he just played last week and literally after the game was like, I'm not me.
26:50I have to go to injured reserve. It wasn't like anything happened as much as he doesn't have the juice.
26:56And I don't think, again, I don't think he's been, him and Lane Johnson ran into each other week one last year
27:03and the Eagles haven't been the same since. And I, that is like the issue.
27:07So there's a world the Eagles get better if not playing Landon Dickerson, just because he's not healthy.
27:12But overall, that's what it all comes down to is the Eagles have to figure out how to run the ball.
27:18And if they can't, then they start, got to start doing play action because they were dead last in play action last, uh, last week too.
27:26Like it was like 8%. So they have to just get yards on first down so they can get to the unstoppable
27:32fourth down play, which maybe that's not unstoppable either because of the line anymore, but the Eagles line is not special anymore.
27:39Yep. That's the, uh, the other thing I'd say is I, I actually want to ask you guys, part of me is
27:45like, I want, should we just not rank the Titans this week?
27:48Like we were talking about season long with Kyle Pitts and Marvin Harrison.
27:52Like we put out rankings and part of me, I was looking at them and I'm like, is there any world you're
27:58actually going to play Carnell Tate this week versus the Eagles?
28:02No, unfortunately no. We, we can't not rank them cause it'll look like an error, but we should almost have like, like
28:08a big sign at the top that says no Titans.
28:11I'm looking at it. I'm like, do you have to go somewhere?
28:14But I, I would feel horrible playing them this week.
28:17Like I just feel a disgusting. Yeah. That's how I feel about like Tony Pollard too, or it's just like, he's just
28:24going to run into a brick wall. There's no way half the time.
28:27And then they're, they're splitting, he's playing reps way more with Tajay Spears this year than he was last year.
28:33I don't truly trust his offense to get going.
28:36Um, yeah, it's pretty grim so far, but obviously that's just one week for the Titans.
28:40Maybe Cam Ward will turn it around, but this is a really tough matchup.
28:45Great. The Eagles have a really good defense. It's just, this is going to be a slog.
28:49Well, I'm curious to watch the game and just see if they get more than five foot, 10 inches downfield.
28:55Okay. Uh, Craig, what's the next game for the early slate Packers jets?
28:59Uh, this game's, uh, in New York, in New Jersey.
29:02Uh, my stat is that Geno Smith had the least amount of pressures against him in week one out of any quarterback in the NFL.
29:09Geno Smith was pressured the least six times he was pressured.
29:12He was sacked zero times, which is not something I typically think of when I think of a jets offense or a jets quarterback.
29:19Right. Um, I thought I, I had to start Geno Smith in this game for reasons that I am not proud of,
29:26but so I watched a lot of the jets game and I thought he looked sharp.
29:30Uh, I thought his connection with, with Garrett Wilson was, was legit and they just ran the ball in both times they scored.
29:37So his stats didn't look that good. Uh, Sadiq and, and Brees Hall had touchdowns, but the jets were fourth and explosive pass rate in week one.
29:45And they're playing now green Bay. They're, they're at home.
29:48The Packers let up three touchdowns to Carson Wentz.
29:50I think like my overall thought going into this game is like, obviously you look at this and you're like, I mean,
29:57this spread is not as big as you would expect.
29:59I think the spreads four and a half. Is that still there?
30:03Three and a half. It's three and a half.
30:06The jets are, are only three and a half point underdogs at home against the Packers.
30:10And you would think jets Packers, this should be eight.
30:13And it's because I, I think the Jets might not be terrible.
30:17And it's hard to say that because they just played the Titans.
30:20So it's like, that's why this is a real, we're going to learn a lot about this team in week two, but green Bay was messy, man.
30:28Green Bay could not run the ball. 15% of their yards in week one came from rushing 15% of their total yards
30:34came from rushing, which was their lowest since 2023.
30:37Marshawn Lloyd was very underwhelming. He looked underwhelming. Yeah.
30:39The other thing I want to flag for this game, I know it might rain for this game for the jets Packers game.
30:46And I bring that up for a couple of reasons.
30:49We always joke about it during the combine, but Marshawn Lloyd had small hands and he fumbled a lot in college and
30:55it's games like this where that matters. And so I think the running game, like I'm a little skeptical because they don't have a ton of other options.
31:03Can I also, I want to make a, can I tell you guys something?
31:07Yeah. I think this is the game. The jets get an interception.
31:11I think it's going to happen this week. All right.
31:14I really do. I'm awaited. I am. This is a huge game for the Packers too, because the jets, it would be
31:20so obviously incredible to start to know after they've been such a mess for a long time, but green Bay losing to
31:27the jets would quietly be like a real, I don't know if it's rock bottom because the bears limited in them for
31:33the playoffs, but the jets making you go, oh, and two after the bears limiting for the rock bottom Packers have had
31:39it pretty good for a long time. And this would be really bad, but I don't really believe in the Packers offensive
31:46line or defensive line and Lafleur's decision-making. I mean, I actually don't mind.
31:49Austin wrote a great piece for the ringer this week where he pointed out Lafleur going for it on fourth down.
31:56He took the field goal off the board and went for it.
31:59It's kind of a big sense. You'll get more points that way than not.
32:03The problem is the play sucked. And I just, I don't, I just don't believe in green Bay.
32:08I don't think they have a lot of blue chip talent.
32:11There's no like elite guys really anywhere on this roster.
32:14And that bothers me a lot. The, yeah, the Packers offensive line, I think is also, I mean, it's tough because Minnesota blitzed like 80% of the game.
32:22I was really unimpressed with green Bay's offensive line.
32:25Like they were getting blown up. He was pressured.
32:28Jordan Love was pressured 25 times. He was hit 15 times in this game.
32:32Um, so I'm a little nervous. Maybe this will be a classic, like it's the Packers.
32:36They win 10 games every year. Jordan love Matt Lafleur doing overthink it and they're playing the jets, but I'm a little more interested in this match.
32:44It would be, it would be nice to see a Packers get right game where they just beat the jets, but they,
32:51they have a talent deficit in the trenches, arguably on both sides of the, both jets lines are probably better than both Packers lines by a good bit.
32:59And that usually decides games as long as, I mean, it depends if Gino turns the ball over.
33:04Do you think Caleb Johnson is, is a hold in any way in fantasy on the Packers or no?
33:09It depends on your league size. I kind of think I do.
33:13The fact that Marshawn Lloyd before last week had played, had gotten how many touches in two years, like nine, but yeah, like nine or barely plays.
33:21That's not the kind of, he's been injured all over.
33:24I think Caleb Johnson, he was a good kick returner.
33:26He could eventually get snaps. It depends because I think even if you end up, if I end up being right and
33:33I think Caleb Johnson gets the job eventually, I kind of don't think green Bay is going to be able to run the ball.
33:40Anyway, we'll see what happens with Josh Jacobs. Who knows what's happening there, but I think by the time Caleb comes back,
33:46he'll probably start for two weeks, not get 80 yards and then like be back behind Josh Jacobs.
33:51So I kind of think the Packers aren't going to be able to run the ball anyway.
33:56Yeah. To, uh, to circle around what Craig, what Craig initially started with very encouraged from what Gino Smith did.
34:02In week one. And I, I can't wait to see if he can keep this up, like having a decent offensive line,
34:08decent to good offensive line, a few good weapons in the, in the passing game, a decent run game with, uh, Brees Hall and Braylon Allen.
34:16Um, he completed 80, almost 80% of his passes and he was, uh, eighth in EPA per drop back in week one.
34:22Obviously a lot of variables here, but it was, it was a very sharp start for him.
34:27Yeah. Um, the next game is the, the Cleveland Browns are at Tampa Bay.
34:31And I don't know if this is a fact as much as I would like to suggest a cosmic note to this game.
34:38Okay. The Browns ditched Baker Mayfield, the number one pick for them.
34:41The Browns ditched Baker Mayfield to get to Sean Watson.
34:44And now this week, Baker Mayfield is probably going to beat the Browns so that they benched to Sean Watson probably forever.
34:51Wow. Yeah. Baker will prop Baker will literally after being kicked out of Cleveland for to Sean, Baker has a very good
34:57chance to end to Sean Watson's tenure in Cleveland this week.
35:00Well, I mean, come on. It's, it's like unfair.
35:03The expectations are so high for to Sean. Like they're expecting him to throw for 400 yards and five touchdowns every week.
35:09Like that's ridiculous. That dude, that quote. So to Sean, can you, Sean actually said that this week for people who did
35:16not know, he was like, the media wants me to throw for 400 yards and five touchdowns every week.
35:21The media has this expectation that I'm supposed to throw for 400 yards and five.
35:25It's like, you know what? You're the only quarterback ever who got a fully guaranteed contract and they give you 200 plus million dollars guaranteed.
35:33Yeah. They traded for you for like three first round.
35:36So yeah, on that note, I looked into it.
35:38How about 400 yards every two games? That'd be, that'd be nice.
35:42So I, this was also my other stat here.
35:44Cause I couldn't believe that quote. I thought it was the most, I did.
35:48Sean Watson might be the most disconnected person from reality in the entire NFL and including Aaron Rodgers, but to Sean Watson, forget a single game.
35:56To Sean Watson is not thrown for five touchdowns in a calendar month in four and a half years.
36:01Damn. Really? Yes. Brutal. Really? It was amazingly, it was with the Browns when he first came back, but that was like
36:08the 2022 was the end of the 20, like 2022 is a long time ago.
36:12He might have that three and a half years.
36:15You probably won't. But again, the big dish between everything to Sean Watson said about the fan basically saying, I'd rather be
36:21on the road than home this season. I think they're going to play him.
36:25And honestly, I actually believe the conspiracy. I kind of wonder if I, I don't know.
36:30I just, I think the Browns want him gone.
36:32And I think should do or they want to come to the home games as like, uh, look, we got rid of the Sean.
36:39Should or I just pray that he's going to play well.
36:42We don't have to belabor this game. I think it's wheels up for Tampa.
36:46They're there. They lost a close game in week one.
36:49They're going to be motivated. The Browns Baker thing is extra motivation.
36:53I think the bucks are going to be, they're at home.
36:56I think they're going to dominate great defense to start in fantasy.
36:59There is a, yeah, I agree. The last thing I'll say, there's a chance.
37:04Let's say to Sean loses and that they he's benched the rest of the season.
37:08There's a chance. If that happens, to Sean will have made 140, one for $140 million the last three years and have delivered one win.
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38:01Shop at macy's.com. Okay. Next game here, DK. Carolina Panthers versus Atlanta Falcons.
38:05My one stat comes from fantasy points. It's B.
38:07John Robinson had 54% of the team. The team's overall expected fantasy points in week one.
38:12Yeah. He was the offense in week one. Literally.
38:15Like it was a run to B. John or a pass to B.
38:18John against this. Right. And they kind of had 10 targets in the passing game.
38:23Yeah. Um, he had like a 60, 67% or 70% of the team's expected fantasy points as in passing.
38:28So that is kind of wild. Obviously there's a huge variable here and who is going to be the starting quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons.
38:36And that is it's between Cooper rush and Michael panics who came back to practice this week.
38:40He has been getting some reps with the first team.
38:43So I think there is a quite a bit of uncertainty whether panics is healthy enough to play this week or if
38:50they're going to kind of wait again. But I mean, the B.
38:53John thing, the usage for B. John is, is about as good as it possibly can get.
38:58And that is really exciting because we, you know, we talked about this before the season.
39:03Like, why do we have B. John rank so high when he's on a terrible offense with a bad quarterback?
39:09That's why that's why 54% of the team's expected fantasy points.
39:12Um, and he, I mean, honestly, he looked awesome and you know, he made some incredible plays.
39:17I don't think you can expect him to get that type of volume every single week, but this is the answer to
39:23the question of why did we have B. John rank second?
39:26He's the outlier. Yeah. He's the exception that proves the rule.
39:29Typically you don't want that. Sure. Um, watching B.
39:32John, this is maybe irresponsible watching B. John. I was kind of wondering if B.
39:36John in the open field is the best running back I've seen since Adrian Peterson.
39:41Like just the way he moves and I love Jimmy Gibbs.
39:44There's Saquon, there's Christian McCaffrey, but watching B. John last week, I was like, I can't believe how good he is with the ball in his hands.
39:52It is unbelievable. Honestly, you know, that Rams game and Monday night football last week, 17 B.
39:57John is somehow underrated because the Falcons suck. Yeah.
39:59But it's like, if he's on a better team, he should be the most famous player in the NFL.
40:05I agree. It's a bummer that he's probably not going to be a good team for a couple more years.
40:10Uh, this could be, this could be a weird, weirdly good fantasy game for, for both teams.
40:15Like you wouldn't expect the, the Panthers and Falcons to be like a good fantasy game, but like B.
40:21John, obviously with the Falcons, I don't know, you know what we're going to expect if anything from London or pits on
40:27that side of the football, but like the Panthers offense was a lot better than I expected last week against a bad bears defense.
40:34And I think they could have some success again in this game too.
40:38Fantasy wise B. John, obviously you're playing, do you play any other Falcons?
40:42I don't think you can play Kyle pits. He did not have a catch.
40:46No, I wouldn't. I probably would not play pits and I would begrudgingly play London because I think it's a lot of.
40:52So Penn, Michael Penix jr. is now taking, splitting reps at first team with Cooper rush and two is hurt, not even playing anymore.
40:59And that's a weird situation. So it's like either Michael Penix sailing into this game, which makes no sense to me after
41:05barely practicing, he's going to come in and take live reps because the Falcons next week play Thursday night.
41:11So he's going to like miss two games if he misses this game.
41:15But also Michael Penix playing with no reps makes no sense to me, but there's a chance Cooper rush comes in and plays this game in the next.
41:23And I'm like, I don't even, are you serious?
41:25Are you playing Drake London with Cooper rush? Cause I'm a little scared.
41:29I mean, obviously it's nerve wracking, but I probably would.
41:32This is a Panthers team that just gave up 59 points.
41:35So, um, even I know it's a very different offense, but I do think there's a big difference between the Steelers, um, Steelers defense and the Panthers defense.
41:43Yeah. Fair enough. Pits though. I would not play if I had to give one brief mini stat on the Panther side of things.
41:50Uh, this came from Ian Harditz that the last seven games that Jalen Coker and Ted Mcmillan have played together.
41:56Oh yeah. Coker has 12 more catches at 150 more yards.
41:59Yeah. I mean, he's the de facto number one in this offense, which is, he has an ankle injury, but he's like,
42:06he's, they expect him to play this week. Yeah.
42:08So I think you kind of got to play him if he's the Parker Washington of Carolina.
42:13Yeah. Totally. The other thing is also, you know, he's also just hasn't played a bad game and longer than you think Bryce young.
42:20Like it's weird because Bryce young against certain, like the Niners money in a football game last year was looked like a middle schooler.
42:27And then it's like, but the flip side is the Panthers really should have beat the Rams twice last year.
42:33They beat him in the regular season and really should have beat the Rams in the playoffs.
42:38And then we just like completely dismissed that performance.
42:40Yeah. But Bryce young played well. I thought he played okay last week.
42:44And so I'm curious, but Atlanta is also like a toothless pass rush because they, James Pierce, Jr.
42:49Suspended Jalen Walker's out for the season. They lost another defensive tackle this week.
42:53Like that was already a weak defensive line. That's kind of down three, their best five guys already.
42:59I it's yeah. I kind of think Bryce is viable.
43:02DK, look me in the eye right now. Who are you starting with Jalen Waddle or Jalen Coker?
43:07Oh, not even Coker. How I think a better question even really have to think about that.
43:12How long will it take Jalen Waddle to get as many points this season as Jalen Coker did in week one?
43:18Oh God. Things are, things are bad with my Waddle bags.
43:21Do you think Jalen Waddle, Jalen Coker had how many points week one?
43:2535. How many weeks will it take Jalen Waddle to get 35 total points this season?
43:29Seven. I like that. Yeah, probably not really. But, uh, okay.
43:33Next, uh, next game here, Craig. All right. We have the Saints are at Baltimore.
43:37My one stat is that the Ravens had the most plays of 10 or more yards last week and the Saints gave
43:43up the third most plays of 10 or more yards this week.
43:47So I am declaring this game, the Mario Kart rainbow strip game of the week.
43:51Start them all. Um, so you're starting Vele, you're starting ETN, obviously a Lave.
43:55I think you can start Juwan Johnson. I think on the Raven side of things, I think there is a chance that
44:01Derrick Henry is like 290 yards and four touchdowns in this game.
44:05He might get 40 carries. It doesn't know Jacoby lane for Baltimore.
44:08I don't know if there's going to be Zay Flowers.
44:11So it's Rashad Bateman. It's Eli Surratt and it's Mark Andrews.
44:14And that's it. Jameer Gibbs last week versus, uh, the Saints had 150 yards and two touchdowns on 30 carries.
44:20Um, that everyone associated with this game, I would like to have on my team.
44:25I mean, it's not looking like Zay is going to play.
44:28He did not practice on Wednesday or Thursday. So highly doubt he'll play.
44:32I love this one. This is gonna be a fun game.
44:35I want to see how Shuck starts in this game.
44:38Cause this is a, this is a, the Baltimore defense is one of those defenses that can really confound quarterbacks.
44:43Um, so I'm just gonna, I'm very interested to see if he looks more like he did in the second half or
44:50in the first half of last week. I went back and watched Shuck second half and he was dealing, man.
44:56He was making a lot of high level throws like on the move, stepping up in the pocket, dropping the ball in
45:02a bucket as Brady likes to say, dropping it like a butterfly with sore legs.
45:06Everybody knows what that means right off. That just, that's just a phrase you just automatically understand.
45:11I, that's one of those performances where do you feel like what, what is the ratio to you of Tyler Shuck is
45:18really good or, and the, the lion's secondary is horrendous.
45:20Cause the lions to me are the other like rainbow strip team that the defense has been bad for years, but right now it is really bad.
45:28I think Shuck is solid. Like I, I think the last half of last year we saw it and I think he's underrated.
45:35And I think it's because he's like 42 years old and he was hurt every year in college.
45:40And he was Justin Herbert's backup 10 years ago at Oregon.
45:43And nobody wants to give him credit. And I think if the first overall pick was doing this, we would think he was great.
45:50If Cam Ward was doing this, we would think he was great.
45:54Anthony Weaver. He's probably, this is like classic kind of like respect.
45:57Yes. But Anthony Weaver, the defensive coordinator for, um, um, why am I blanking for the saints for the saints?
46:03Sorry. No, sorry for, for the Ravens, for the Ravens.
46:06Thank you said that Tyler Shuck reminds him of a poor man's Josh Allen.
46:10Of course, which is like, not right. Pick the Superman guy.
46:13Yeah. That's just, that's a good thing. Maybe coaches should start doing.
46:17Cause obviously Belichick was always good about complimenting the opposition and not wanting to give them any motivation and flattering them.
46:23It'd be funny to actually just going crazier and crazier every single week.
46:26Like, yeah, like you, the Niners are playing the dolphins this week and Kyle Shanahan's like, Caleb Douglas reminds me a lot
46:33of when I was with Julio Jones. He's like, Caleb Douglas gives me like prime Michael Jordan.
46:38Do you think that? Do you think if you're Tyler Shuck, this is annoying or you're actually flattered?
46:43I think that's, I think it's flattering. I don't think it's annoying.
46:46I think I would be, I think I would be like, okay, now I know you're lying.
46:51Poor man Josh Allen. Come on. Now I know you're lying through your teeth.
46:55Shucks like how poor? Yeah. Okay. Late games. DK.
46:58All right. We got Jags at Broncos. This is a really fun game.
47:02Can't wait to watch this one. The Jags obviously cleaned up last week against the Browns.
47:06Now they face a very good defense in the Broncos are favored by two and a half.
47:11Broncos are favored in, in Denver. Here's my stat.
47:14In the last eight games, which includes one playoff game, Trevor Lawrence has thrown 22 touchdowns to three picks.
47:19He is actually, he's on an absolute heater in his last eight games.
47:23In that stretch, he has a 115 pass rating.
47:26His EPA per drop back would have been best in the NFL over the full season last year.
47:31Uh, is an incredible 31% success rate, which was third, which would have been third last year, uh, and a 18% explosive play rate.
47:38So he is dealing, um, and the, the Jags are seven to one in that stretch, by the way, the only game
47:44they lost was the wildcard game against the bills last year.
47:48Um, they're averaging 33 points a game, 350 yards per game in that stretch and have 31 touchdowns in eight games.
47:54So this is, this is the hot, one of the hottest offenses in the NFL, if not the hottest, I mean, obviously
48:00the bears, what they did last week was pretty damn impressive, but the, the, the Jags are kind of right there in
48:06terms of what they're doing on offense, just buzzsaw offense right now.
48:10And I can't wait to see how they, they play against a really good defense in the, in Denver.
48:15Can I steal, you know how Craig just said that if Cam Ward was doing what Tyler Shuck was doing, we'd be freaking out.
48:22Yeah. If Justin Herbert had done what Trevor Lawrence has done since Thanksgiving, there would be no semen left in any of our bodies.
48:29That's correct. That's exactly right. Oh my God. It is like, how long semen left.
48:34How long does Trevor Lawrence need to play like this till he gets a fraction of the respect that Justin Herbert, like
48:40we kind of thrust upon him without having done this yet.
48:43Has Lawrence somehow, somehow become underrated now after being overrated?
48:46It was the Browns. Their defense sucks, but he's been unbelievable for like, oh, like so many, so many games in a row.
48:53Well, and it's funny because it's not like he's Tyler Shuck where it was like, oh, he's a second round pick.
48:59He, nobody really knew him. It's like, this is the first overall pick in the draft.
49:03Who was a very famous college athlete. Yeah. I think it's Jacksonville.
49:07I think it's the Jags as a team. And like, yes, they are probably the, I apologize to Jags fans.
49:13They are like the least famous football team in the NFL.
49:16I would say. Yeah. I mean, I have it on incredibly good authority that the, before COVID the NFL wanted to have Jaguars move to London.
49:23Yeah. Like they wanted to have them do four and four in London.
49:27That is the state of the Jaguars. I don't think it's weird.
49:31Like, unfortunately, the bar is higher for things that Jacksonville has to do to make a splash nationally.
49:36I, I mean, the last time the Jags played the Broncos, they smacked them in Denver.
49:40And that's when Denver was playing really well. And people were like, this team could win the Superbowl and Trevor Lawrence had
49:47280 yards, three touchdowns and ran in a fourth touchdown.
49:50And then the Broncos played like shit. And they're like, they're underdogs again.
49:53How does that make sense? I do, I do agree with everything you guys are saying.
49:58I think this is a, this is a fact, this is the Jags and people just kind of doubt that the Jags are actually good.
50:05I think Liam Cohen paired with Trevor Lawrence is one of the best quarterback play caller combos in the NFL right now.
50:12Like they are up there with basically, I mean, in terms of, especially the last eight games, but like since Cohen got
50:18there, you could put them up against some of the best offenses in the NFL.
50:22And when the way that they design game, the game plans, um, the way that they structure or sequence the plays and
50:29just like the efficiency that they operate with the points they're scoring.
50:32Like it's, it's actually pretty crazy. And we just haven't, I don't know if we've really caught on yet that this could
50:39be a Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams type of type of marriage between these guys.
50:43It's funny to me too, because the Jags and Broncos of all the teams in the NFL, did any teams change from
50:49last season less than the Jags and Broncos? The Jags lost Travis H.
50:53Yeah. I get that. But like the Broncos did very little.
50:56They, they added Jalen Waddle, but they like make very literal moves.
50:59They're treating him like Marvin Nims because they didn't want to change anything.
51:03They added, they traded for him and then they didn't make him a part of the game plan.
51:08Yeah. I just, I don't know. It's, it is funny to me.
51:12Thanks. Heifetz, you mentioned like things don't change. These are two teams that didn't change a lot.
51:17Did you see how they use Travis Hunter on offense in week one?
51:21Just, oh no, they didn't even go, the passes from, they didn't even go by on the line of, beyond the line of scrimmage, right?
51:28Every route was just like We call them expensive Wandale Robinson.
51:31Like, come on. If you're going to play him on offense, actually play him on offense.
51:36Don't do this stupid shit. That's just, that's just one thing I have that sticks in my craw, but yeah.
51:41I'm looking on FanDuel right now. What does Jalen Waddle's over under have to be for receiving yards for you to take the over?
51:48I'm not going to tell you what it is, but what would the number need to be for you to confidently take it over?
51:55For me, bet a lot of money? 26. If you put a hundred bucks on the over for Jalen Waddle, what would the number have to be?
52:0314. I would say like 26. For you to feel like you have a 50-50 shot, that's the point of setting it up.
52:1036. What is it? It's 52 and a half.
52:12Oh God. Should we just bet the Jalen Waddle under until it hits?
52:16We should. Every week. Because then we can celebrate, I mean, we can celebrate either way, really.
52:21Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he has 61 with no touchdowns and then we just play in these.
52:26Well, it's better than that way. We can three.
52:29Somehow he can hurt us more. We actually should do that.
52:32Let's do the, yeah, the Jalen Waddle under the week.
52:35We should just do that every week. All season.
52:37We should, we parlay him and Kyle Pitts to both go under every week until we lose.
52:42Honestly, people are, people are going to really start hating Pat Bryant because of the implication it has for Jalen Waddle.
52:48So Pat Bryant, totally innocent in this. Like Pat Bryant might be an awesome player.
52:53Every time he catches a pass, we'd be like, God, fucking damn it.
52:56So Pat Bryant's good. Third round pick. The comparisons, you know, the way Tyler Shuck is to Josh Allen, Pat Bryant's to Michael Thomas.
53:03That's Sean Payton, basically. Every fucking receiver on the Broncos is compared to Michael Thomas.
53:08It's annoying. I think the real answer for Pat Bryant's usage is they get him the ball on the first series, three
53:14times because they want teams to respect when he goes in motion and he's like really a weapon as a blocker.
53:20But Sean Payton wants to establish, if you don't respect it, we will throw him the ball so that he then draws
53:26to, it's like, it's like a bad three point shooter hitting a three early in the game.
53:31And you don't actually want them to shoot another three, but you do want them to be covered at the three point line.
53:38I think that's kind of what they do with Pat Bryant in these games.
53:42Anyway, no one gives a shit. You know what?
53:45Okay. Hold on. One more annoying thing about the Broncos.
53:48You know, it's annoying. Yeah. What? Every single wide receiver on the Broncos, their number is between 10 and 19.
53:53So it's all, you don't know what's going on.
53:56Every time they, I'm like, is that Jalen Waddle?
53:59And it's never is. It's, oh, that's Troy Franklin.
54:01Oh, that's Cortland side. He's 13. Oh, he's 15.
54:04No, he's 19. It's so true. It's ridiculous. Even the tight ends.
54:07Number one, like that feels like a Oh, we didn't even mention the resurrection of Evan Ingram, who all thought we had
54:14thought had ascended to another plane with the ancestors.
54:16It's remarkable what you can accomplish when you just shoot Jalen Waddle down the sideline.
54:21He's doing wind sprints. It opens everything up. Yeah.
54:23All right. Next game here. Commanders at the Cowboys.
54:26My one way. So to be clear, I'm benching Jalen Waddle in every league, right?
54:30We're not joking. If you have jail, I'm not playing in that guy until he gets a good game.
54:36I mean, yeah. On the leagues that I actually can't bench him.
54:39Yes. Okay. Um, I have him in my, my, my high school league, my longstanding high school league.
54:44I, for me to bench him, I'd have to start.
54:47No, I got to play him. Cause Nico Collins is out.
54:50I'd have to play like, I'd have to play like RJ Harvey or Jake Ferguson over him.
54:55Ooh, play RJ Harvey. He will outscore him. He will.
54:58We should move him down. Like he will. You're right.
55:01We like, Oh no, you got to write. It's like, but then we get the brain and we're like, Oh, we didn't RJ.
55:08Yeah. He's dealing with a hamstring injury. He's hurt.
55:10You'll still score more. The, like I, I have waddle in the ringer league and I'm, I kind of want to man.
55:17I, I'm, do I bench him for like Jaden Reed in the rain?
55:21Oh God, the worst possible. He's going to score more.
55:23Matthew golden in the rain. That just gave me the ick dude.
55:27God damn it. Okay. All right. Next game commanders at Cowboys.
55:30My one stat is that the Dallas defense was the only defense that didn't, that didn't allow us three and out last week.
55:37Hell yeah, man. That's just the, don't think about it.
55:40It's just how good the giants are. The giants are an unstoppable machine.
55:43Nothing they could have done. Cowboys were also the only team in week one that allowed a first down or touchdown on every single opponent possession.
55:51They allowed a 79% completion rate and 10% touchdown rate, 24th and pressure rate.
55:55It was an absolute mess. This is a mini shootout week.
55:58I think, I don't think the commanders looked very good last week against Philly, but I do Philly's defense is one of the best in the league.
56:06I expect like I would be playing Terry McLaurin this week.
56:09Um, I think you can play Stefan digs this week.
56:12I, I, I would like to expect a bounce back from Dallas as well.
56:16Uh, you know, the commanders made the Eagles explosive plays look like the bears.
56:20The Eagles had five plays of 20 or more yards last week against Philly.
56:24So, um, I like, I like everybody in this game.
56:27I even think the one person I would like to highlight is the rookie Antonio Williams who did not play very much.
56:33He only, he played like 30% of the snaps and he only had four targets, but he caught all four targets and
56:40he had 64 yards and a touchdown. I thought that guy jumped off the screen to me and I thought he looked good and he looked legit.
56:48And I think he's, he's a real player. I totally agree with you, Craig.
56:52He exact, pretty much exact same analysis. He just jumped off the screen.
56:55He just moves a little bit different than everybody else on this.
56:59He, he gives off Amon Ra vibes a lot.
57:02I think it's, he's the same number I want to say as Amon Ra 14.
57:06Um, and I don't know. He just kind of has that, that je ne sais quoi or whatever.
57:11It just makes him, he just looks like he's going to be a real player.
57:15And I think they need to, I think they played him like 30% of the time or something like that.
57:21They need to actually get him in and involved in the offense.
57:25It's not like they're don't have, it's not like they have a plethora of weapons right now.
57:30Um, I think Chig is hurt or he he's been injured.
57:33He might not play. Um, so yeah, he's going to be a bigger part of the game plan.
57:38We did not talk about Antonio Williams enough on the waiver show.
57:41We are, he's a, he's a really good ad ahead of the week versus.
57:46He's a stash, but yes, I, I, if you feel like you move Nico Collins to out, right.
57:51And you get maybe on sleeper app or like some apps, you can get an extra bench spot for, you can just
57:57kind of add in Tony Williams before the game.
58:00And then just, if he goes off, you have them already.
58:03I would highly recommend that if your league allows you to move, if you just have a bench spot, like I would
58:09wreck, if you have a player that's, yeah. Do you guys have leagues like that?
58:14I feel like I actually have a ton of leagues now that you can put guys who are out to IR.
58:20Yeah. And I, in that situation, I would, I would just add in Tony Williams and see what happens this week.
58:26Yeah. It's like beat the rush for, for waiver wire or whatever next week.
58:30Um, he, he's the guy who made a bunch of plays in preseason.
58:34There was one highlight making the rounds where he caught like a, you know, back shoulder pass and like didn't raise his hands until the very last second.
58:42So the defender didn't know the ball was coming.
58:44It was just like, man, which is the whole thing.
58:47This guy's got it next. The next game here, DK Seahawks at Cardinals Seahawks are favored in this one by four and a half.
58:54Um, this is interesting. Drew Locke is going to be starting.
58:57Um, and it, I think he's going to have to do the, he's going to have to be a game manager essentially to win this game.
59:05And here's my stat. And it's basically comes down to the Seahawks defense is good.
59:09I'm, I'm breaking news here, guys. The Seahawks defense is good.
59:12Since the start of last year, including playoffs Seahawks are giving up the fewest points per game of any team in the NFL.
59:19And they have the second most, sorry, they have the second most take takeaways.
59:23They have the third best opponent pass rating, second best stats, uh, second best in sacks, second best in quarterback hits.
59:29And they're doing all that with the fifth lowest blitz rate.
59:32So they're, they're dominating all the most important stats and they're not blitzing to do it, which I think it's just such
59:39a fascinating thing in today's NFL where blitzing and kind of exotic stuff is, is the deal.
59:44This is the Seahawks are exotic in a different way.
59:47Um, and basically what they do is they confuse the hell out of a quarterback because the quarterback never knows who's coming on a pass rush.
59:54And even though they have like, usually it's like four guys that will rush the passer.
59:59You just never know which four it's going to be.
60:02DK. This is an interesting game because I'm kind of fascinated by Arizona.
60:05The spread is the spread in this game. Seahawks are only favored by four and a half points.
60:11Yeah. A week ago, the chargers were favored by like nine points over the same team.
60:15Yeah. And so now the Seahawks are favored by half that.
60:18Is this in your opinion, more the Cardinals are better than we think.
60:22And Vegas is respecting them or more. Drew Locke is a big question mark and a big worry.
60:27Um, I think it's a little both not to sit on the fence.
60:31I think, I think people earn some respect for, for Arizona.
60:34I think their offense has always been a type of offense that can put up points and the defense look great against the chargers in week one.
60:42And I think, I think that earned them some respect.
60:45And then of course, Drew Locke is a backup.
60:48you know, how many points is Drew Locke were like, how, how many points would be going to Darnold from Drew Locke?
60:54Do you like three or four? How, what would you think the line would be if Darnold was starting?
60:59Over a touchdown. Probably seven and a half. Yeah.
61:02It would be over a touchdown. I'm just surprised.
61:05Like you just look at this game and you're like, see the Superbowl champion Seattle Seahawks are only getting four and a
61:11half points or only laying four and a half points versus the fucking Cardinals.
61:15I guess it's in Arizona, but like that, that really surprised me.
61:19But yeah. Yeah. I think the, I, my gut is eight and a half because the bucks Brown, uh, bucks Browns is eight and a half.
61:26And I think for like six and a half, everyone would just take the Seahawks.
61:30I think it's seven and a half is the minimum.
61:33Yeah. Because Darnold was there. Seahawks have won 10 of their last 11 games against the Cardinals.
61:38But I mean, that's, yeah. I mean, that's why Jonathan getting got fired is he didn't really win any games in the division in three years.
61:46do we, but I will, the answer being Drew Locke, and the Cardinals.
61:50That's what you get for asking DK a question.
61:52You know, what DK hits questions, right? Yeah. The answer is always both.
61:56It's like my mom. Well, neither doesn't want to answer the question.
61:59You know, do you think we're not starting Michael Wilson or Marvin Harrison jr.
62:03In this game? I, is it only Trey McBride and Jeremiah love?
62:07It's just Trey McBride. And even Jeremiah love is like, dude, the Seahawks run defense.
62:11I, you probably can start Jeremiah love because he will be the starting running back.
62:16But I'm like, dude, if they're rotating Jeremiah love and he gets 12 touches versus the Seahawks, defense, it's a chance that's 35 yards.
62:23And it's like, he kind of needs a touchdown.
62:25You can play him, but I, you, I do not think you should play Marvin Harrison jr.
62:30Michael Wilson. Like, like I, I not know. Yeah.
62:33Don't do that. Yeah. Did you guys know that Michael floor became the first Cardinals head coach since 1973, which is 14
62:39head coaches before him to win the first game in his coaching debut with the Cardinals.
62:44That's wild. That the Cardinals are quietly such a horrible organization.
62:47Like I, yeah, my, like they're so poorly run.
62:49I, the, cause I told you, I, there, the Cardinals have never had an NFL head coach last for six seasons, which
62:56doesn't sound that remarkable until you remember that the Cardinals are the oldest NFL team.
63:00They've been around for over a hundred years, which is weird.
63:03Cause they don't feel that way. They don't feel like a Chicago bears.
63:07Well, they're not, they were the Chicago bears. They were the Chicago Cardinals and the bears with the Decatur Staley's.
63:13Decatur state in 1920. Like literally the Cardinals are like 106 years old.
63:17They like were playing the rock Island independence, the Chicago Cardinals.
63:20And then they moved. And I like, they've never had in 106 years, never had one coach last six years.
63:26Do you know how hard that is? That means you're doing terribly.
63:29That's that's yeah. Anyway, uh, next game here, late slate.
63:32Uh, we have the Raiders playing the chargers and my stat for this game is to a tongue of Iloa.
63:38His first game with Mike McDaniel, he threw for 270 yards.
63:41He was one touchdown. He was sacked three times and they put up 20 points.
63:45His second game with Mike McDaniel, he had 470 yards, six touchdowns, and they scored 42 points.
63:50Tyree kill and Jalen Waddle combined for 360 yards and two touchdowns.
63:54And my question for you two is, is this the most obvious bylo for the Los Angeles chargers and Mike McDaniels complicated,
64:00but obviously very effective and proven offense. And we should be buying O'Mary and Hampton and all these motherfuckers on LA, even if Vlad McConkie doesn't play.
64:08Objectively and logically, of course. Yes. Emotionally, it's tough.
64:10It's just like being let down time and time again.
64:13But yes, I think absolutely is logically a great bounce back opportunity for them.
64:17And very likely, this is going to be a team that's offense is much better than what we saw last week.
64:24What say you? I think you're right. We're also too in deep to say anything else, but I think, you know, it's funny.
64:30We don't really do trade advice after week one, because in our experience, nobody wants to trade after week one, no matter how bad your team is.
64:38Like, no one was weird. It'll be better next week.
64:41Yeah. No one wants to give up on anyone.
64:43Part of me does wonder if the chargers and bears are just like Colson, Loveland, Luther burden, lad McConkie, her Marion Hampton,
64:50if all these guys are like, if you could, I mean, you're probably not swinging a trade between now and Sunday, but
64:56part of me does wonder that Craig, because people are probably nervous, but it also just comes down to, do you think Jim Harbaugh is a good coach?
65:04And I do. And good coaches can correct things like what happened to the chargers in week one.
65:10It's the ability to adjust. And maybe Jim Harbaugh has lost a step, but I do kind of believe in the chargers ability to pivot.
65:17Now, do the chargers have Adam Gase on their staff?
65:20They do. That really concerns me. Yeah. Mike McDaniel and Adam Gase.
65:23And you know, I'm a little nervous, but I can't tell you how desperately my, my heart needs what you're talking about.
65:30Correct. I need a chargers to run up and down on the Raiders.
65:33I mean, imagine the chargers lose this game. The Raiders are two and oh, and the chargers are.
65:38I found Adam Gase on the chargers team website.
65:41Like somebody finding a, like a chopped finger in their chili bowl.
65:45I was like, holy, wait a minute. Jump scare.
65:47What's in there? Sam Monson, Sam Monson posted it this morning.
65:50And I was thinking of Adam Levitton. I think it established the run.
65:54Does this have just like all the people that you think are the really horrific coaches in the NFL and GMs tracking what teams they look for.
66:02Yeah. And always keeping track of that. It's like, it's we lose track of them too easily.
66:07I love the, I love the stat about like, like almost every Steelers offensive coordinator after they left the Steelers, like never got a job again.
66:14It's honestly, the truth is if my Tomlin, Matt Canada, that guy, if my Tomlin wasn't so lovable and a great guy
66:21and beloved, that would kind of be the defining part of the end of his tenure is nobody hired ever worked again.
66:27Like look at Todd Bowles, everybody. Todd Bowles hires to run the Bucks offense gets a head coaching job and everyone.
66:33Mike Tomlin hired never worked yet to your point.
66:36Doesn't even work in the NFL again. Concerning Matt Canada hasn't had a job since 2023.
66:40He's not like coaching college. He doesn't have a job.
66:43It's, it's not, it's not ideal. Todd Haley was the offensive coordinator for the Steelers for half a decade.
66:49He went one year to the Browns after that gone, been out of the, he's coaching high school.
66:54Yeah. Arthur Smith went to Ohio state where I'm always like, it always, I don't know.
66:59I'm always like when I see Matt, Patricia succeeds with the Ohio state defense and I'm like, yes, they are playing well.
67:05You also, how many players are first round picks?
67:08Yeah. Right. You know, next game here. There's, I think the other, so there's five games in the late slate, which I
67:14actually think we, interesting, but we always say we want this and I'm curious how it goes.
67:19I want four so I can fill the quad box perfectly, but I, I, it is nice to have it's, it's, this
67:25is the right answer though, is I think that there's eight games at, on the early slate.
67:30So it's like you have eight and then you have five, which is probably the right number when there's no bi-weeks.
67:36Yes. And maybe five is nice because then if there's one stinker, you can kick it out of the box.
67:42Yeah. All right. So the next, the last one here, is this going to be the stinker?
67:47Probably dolphins are at the 49ers. And again, the Niners came back from Australia, but it's been, but they gave them the
67:53dolphins as a, the consolation for not giving them, because the Rams got Monday night football coming back from Australia.
67:59The nine shouldn't have left. They should have been like, Hey NFL, we're not leaving.
68:03You guys fly to us. Make the dolphins come here.
68:06We're having a good time. We're not fucking leave it.
68:09They're not leaving. My one stat for dolphins, 49ers is the 49ers success rate last week, which is just context adjusted yards.
68:16Two yards and 31 is better than two yards and first and 10.
68:19The Niners success rate last week was the third best in the NFL.
68:23And the dolphins were dead last against the Rams too, which yeah, exactly.
68:27And you probably, you don't need to be tough.
68:30The line of this game is 13 and a half points.
68:33I don't think we have to belabor it. Like I, the Niners are probably going to wax them.
68:38And if they don't, we'll blame it on Australia.
68:41You don't. Yeah. I don't have anything novel to say.
68:43I don't know. All I'm saying is the jet lag thing is real.
68:47They were in Australia for a week. A lot of guys are hurt.
68:51A letdown game. Yeah. They just lost Tonjes. They just lost.
68:54Tonjes. That's that like, that's a huge deal. Well, I mean, George Kittle is still probably on a snap count.
69:00It's not nothing with the way Kyle Shannon. He's the running game.
69:03Like it's not nothing to lose a tight end.
69:06I mean, you can, the entire season really relies on Mike, Mike Evans hamstring, to be honest, because if he, if anything
69:12happens, some 33 year old Mike Evans, things are very dire.
69:16Did any player individually, at least for fantasy purposes, like, or just fantasy skill players.
69:20Did anybody individually impress you in week one, as much as Mike Evans impressed in that Rams Niners game?
69:25I feel like he looked so rejuvenated. I thought Debo looked pretty good too.
69:29Honestly, but it looked good. Is it that, or is it just the Jersey?
69:34Well, I don't know. I feel like he looks spry.
69:36He was moving around. He was running after the catch, making guys miss.
69:40I, I, yeah, Evan, it looked pretty good. So yeah, that is.
69:44Yeah. The Niners will win. Uh, when the sun goes down, the appetizers come out.
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70:26Sunday night football. This is a good one. We got Colts at chiefs chiefs again, and in prime time here, is it a good one?
70:33Well, on the Sunday night football scale, this is like a four.
70:37Colts chiefs is the worst is the most is where we invented the Costanza from this game.
70:42Yeah. We came up with Costanza because I said that everyone on earth will be betting Kansas city.
70:47Right. Right. Um, my stat of the game is chiefs runs of 20 plus yards in 2025, the entire 17 game season
70:53last year, they had one run of, of 20 plus yards.
70:56They had two in this first game with Kenneth Walker.
70:59That was so that to me, that's like, that's twice as good.
71:03Well, I don't know what the math is for one game really, but like it's, it's exponentially better.
71:08Um, no, I just thought Kenneth Walker looks amazing.
71:10I'm not breaking any news here with that either, but a hundred, 191 scrimmage yards.
71:15Most, most by Kansas city running back since 2017, week 17 of 2017 when cream hunt cream on at two games, over 200 plus scrimmage yards.
71:22I think Kenneth Walker is basically Kareem hunt in this offense, which means I think if he can say healthy, he's a
71:29top five running back in the league in fantasy.
71:31Um, he's going to give them explosive runs, which is really important because none of their receivers can really do it.
71:37Uh, other than breaking tackles with she rice or whatever.
71:40And, um, I think Travis Kelsey still certainly can, can make plays, but their receiver core, the chiefs receiver core is a real problem.
71:47I think if, if we redrafted the season right now, if we just started over and everybody could start drafting again, fresh
71:54teams, if Kenneth Walker, like the fourth pick in the draft, if you took Ken Walker fourth, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be like, that's a bad pick.
72:01I mean, how low would he go? It's like Jameer Gibbs.
72:05And then it's like, you have John, Derek Henry, Kenneth Walker, Taylor.
72:08I will say how far is chase fall? Knowing Jeff Joe Burrow has a back injury the first week of the season.
72:14I think Kenneth Walker is like the fourth pick.
72:17Maybe McCaffrey's ahead of, I don't know. No, because I mean, if we're basing it off of week one, McCaffrey was in a timeshare.
72:24I think he's like, maybe this week one, potentially the third or fourth pick in fantasy drafts going forward.
72:29I like that, which is also funny because we identified all of this about what, how the chiefs would use him.
72:36We were just like, well, what if they don't also, he, he might get hurt.
72:40Cause he has like this history of foot issues.
72:43And, but ironically we got it right. And we had them like a little higher and I wish we had had him a lot higher.
72:50Yeah. Yeah. All right. The most important game of the week, Monday night football, the New York football giants, sorry, giants, New
72:56York giants, the giants, your New York giants are at the Los Angeles Rams.
73:00You're doing it better than him. You're overselling it.
73:03You're right. Sorry. The New York giants, the New York giants, the New York giants, the New York giants, giants, the one and O giants, right?
73:10We should have known they would have dominated that game.
73:13I know what we didn't see is that when the camera panned, everybody was like crying.
73:18Yeah. Weeping openly weeping. My one stat is that I have two for this one.
73:22I liked, but I will start with the giants by EPA per play.
73:26Last week was their best game since BC before COVID.
73:29Wow. And if you just look at the giants last, like 10 games by EPA per play, there was one game they had that was good in 2019.
73:37The rest are all from their title defenses. It's like, there was the best game the giants had by EPA per play
73:43since 2008, when the giants were defending the super bowl title and they look, and they started like 10 and O or something.
73:50And 2012, when they were defending the super bowl champion, uh, that like the, their title defense, that's the last time the giants had a game statistically.
73:58That was as all like all around good on offense.
74:01This is the ultimate. Is it real bowl? I couldn't agree more.
74:04There's, there's so much at stake here. I could, there are the Rams dog shit now.
74:09Who knows? Are the giants elite? Maybe. I don't know.
74:12I can't tell. The Rams are coming off their fewest.
74:15It was like, they're basically the worst performance. The Rams have had under McVay since one other one game versus Kyle Shanahan.
74:21I think that had to have been the worst Stafford game we've seen since he's been in LA.
74:26It's up there for the worst Stafford game in his career.
74:29Honestly, like overall, I, the, I look, obviously the, the Rams don't have miles Garrett.
74:34Having said that, I, I fear that the giants, I hope the giants are legit, but it's worth pointing out what the
74:40giants are trying to do, which is trot out a fullback, two tight ends, one receiver.
74:45And they're starting lineup on Sunday to football. That is like built to beat the Dallas Cowboys.
74:50The Dallas Cowboys don't have those big linebackers. Like the whole thing is just, there's a shortage of linebackers in the NFL.
74:56It's easier to find tight ends than linebackers. And so you can establish that you can get back to the running game
75:02and all these fast guys that were guard, like what Sean McVay did, which is get three receivers on the field, get
75:09nickel cornerbacks who can tackle, get smaller linebackers who are faster that can guard everything McVay made.
75:14Like Harbaugh is trying to pivot and has been trying to pivot hard against it.
75:18And the Cowboys are like the most vulnerable team to that in the NFL because of the way their linebacker core is.
75:24And they just got bullied. And I'm worried that, that like won't work as well on Sean McVay and the Rams.
75:30If it does, I'm going to freak out and you're never going to hear from me.
75:35Like you're never going to hear the end of it for me.
75:38I'm going to be so obnoxious. Oh, I can't tell you how much I want them to just come out.
75:44Dude, I have a feeling Sean McVay, you guys have heard he's a genius.
75:48Do you think that he'll let Devin Stagletary get four catches in a row in the flat?
75:53We'll see if he can figure out this whole flat game plan that the Giants used against.
75:58Genius. But genius. I mean, you want to talk about like motivation.
76:02The Rams are about as motivated as you could be coming into this game to not lose.
76:07Like McVay is probably not sleeping this week on his 20 hour flight back to LA.
76:11This is, this is a real high stress game for the Rams.
76:15Miles Garrett injured reserve. Ty Simpson is your first draft pick.
76:18And like, you know what I mean? The Rams, I don't think any of the rookies were even active for that week.
76:24None of the rookies dressed in the week one.
76:27Donald wasn't there. And Garrett was played his worst game probably ever.
76:30While we're here, Aaron Donald doesn't like the Giants, by the way.
76:34It's unclear how many snaps or whatever he's active, how many snaps he's going to play.
76:38But Aaron Donald, what does he have against the Giants?
76:41There was a, I mean, it's not, it's more, who is the player?
76:45I don't want to get the details wrong. I think golden Tate and him got into a fight, but it was also
76:51the Giants, the center at the time and him had a big fight.
76:55Aaron Donald's two things. He is the best player I've ever seen in football with my own two eyes.
77:01Not even close. He's also the underrated most dirtiest player in the NFL.
77:04And it never gets called because he's awesome. And he starts shit.
77:08And the Giants are one of the few teams I saw stand up to him and started all out brawl over it.
77:14And I loved it because he deserved it. Cause he just grabs people by their face mask and shoves them.
77:20And the rest are too scared to call anything.
77:23Yeah. Yeah. But he's lucky that he's not, that he doesn't have to face scatterboot.
77:27Yeah. Well, I'm not, that's kind of what I'm saying is I don't think, I think there's a chance that this game gets a little chippy.
77:35I also want to just throw out, cause also his physicality, like the, the fullback thing.
77:39So the, this stat, I, maybe it's obvious. I don't know if it's, it's good stat or whatever, but the Giants played again, 22 personnel.
77:46I hate the way the teams call it. That's so confusing.
77:5022 personnel. It means a fullback and two tight ends.
77:53That's what it means with one receiver on the field.
77:55The Giants played more snaps with a fullback last week, even just a fullback period on the field last week.
78:01Then the Rams have in 10 years under Sean McVay combined.
78:04Oh, really? Literally just a fullback. Sean McVay's used to fullback in 10 years, like eight times.
78:09Yeah. I mean, in this league nowadays, it's like you either have a fullback or you don't, you don't even bother.
78:15This is probably the game. I'm most excited to watch this week.
78:19Yeah. They just think there's so much, so many fun storylines.
78:22Don't know what to make of these two teams.
78:25The Giants were almost perfect against the Cowboys. I know I don't have to tell you this, but I'm like how much
78:31my question is how much of a difference, will it matter when they have a defense that's actually good?
78:37Because the Cowboys were maybe the least impressive defense I've ever watched in my life.
78:41I know that's hyperbole, but like that was pathetic.
78:43It was bad. It was pathetic. Like they couldn't guard the most simple thing on the sidelines.
78:48The real test for me and what I'm looking for is Jackson Dart.
78:52Like I just want nothing more than Jackson Dart to just be, you know, similar to Lamar Jackson where yes, he can run all this stuff.
79:00I know he's not Lamar Jackson, but Lamar's ability to play from the pocket makes the rushing more valuable.
79:05And his ability to scramble makes it easier to play from the pocket.
79:09And if Jackson Dart can play from the pocket and go and show that he's growing under, again, Brian Callahan is the quarterback coach there.
79:16Who's was a bad head coach, but overqualified to be a quarterback's coach.
79:20I just can't tell you how much it would mean to me if he can carve up like a Rams defense, even
79:26a little bit as much as he did with Dallas.
79:29Again, the Giants had no three announced last week, but it's not, it's not going to happen again, but I do want
79:36this to be real desperately, but this is, this is like a, this is the most week one, week two game of
79:42we'll see if that was like a total anomaly.
79:45What happened to giants and Rams last week, or if it's actually like the beginning of a trend line.
79:50Yeah. Rams are favored by seven and a half.
79:53Yeah. Fandle's got your back to start the season, giving everyone bet protect plus for free all September long.
79:58So your bets are covered. If your players get injured, I can relate.
80:02Nico Collins got hurt in the middle of the week.
80:05I'm dealing with that right now. It's not fun.
80:07No, it's terrible. It's I'm scrambling the midweek injury situation.
80:10It's the worst part of fantasy is the beginning of the season injuries.
80:14It's terrible. It is. You might have to play Jalen Waddle.
80:17So we're going to each give you our favorite touchdown score of the weekend.
80:21Can I hit you one? Please. What about a little, uh, look, Caitlin black running back for the niners here.
80:27I think they're going to beat the dolphins handedly.
80:30And Caitlin black is two to one to score a touchdown.
80:33I think they're monitoring. They were talking this week about how even McCaffrey himself was like, I like it.
80:38I like the one, two punch thing. I looked at Jameer Gibbs and David Montgomery in Detroit.
80:43And it keeps us fresher. And I think Caitlin black is good.
80:47He's going to be in the mix. And I think this, I think the niners are going to be a big doing garbage time stuff.
80:54And McCaffrey is going to be out. So I like Caitlin black, two to one score.
80:59Can I go further? Caitlin black, 17 to one to score two touchdowns because the combination of the mixing with McCaffrey, the game's competitive.
81:06I think Kyle Shannon wants Caitlin black to get reps.
81:08And if the game gets out of hand, I think they're going to take McCaffrey out in the fourth quarter of this game.
81:15If the lines are anywhere close, 13 and a half points.
81:18I think Caitlin black to score two touchdowns at 17 to one is actually a really good bet.
81:24Cause he's probably going to be the guy getting the most carries of the fourth quarter.
81:28Hear me out. Let me, let me, let me one up you now.
81:32Whoa. Caitlin black to score a touchdown in the second half, nine to one, nine and a half to one.
81:38That's nice. Let me, let me want to, Oh my God.
81:41Caitlin black to score three touchdowns, 125 to one.
81:43Caitlin black to score 10 touchdowns is 1 million to one.
81:47No, but actually the second half when I really like, I actually have an idea.
81:51I want to run this by you. This is, this is, I'm actually, I actually have a thought.
81:56I think the three, the three touchdown things, not insane.
81:59We just need him to get one early and then two in garbage time.
82:03So what if we did this? Also, I'm incorrect.
82:06It's, it's four to one. It's four to one for a second half touchdown for Caitlin black.
82:11Still like it. It's actually pretty good. Still like it.
82:14So here's my question. What if we did this?
82:16This is stupid and it won't win, but I kind of want to do it.
82:21All right. What if we parlayed? Oh, it's funny.
82:23I was going to say Derek Henry to score three touchdowns, but that's only 10 to one, which is hilarious.
82:29Wow. Three touchdowns for Derek Henry is only nine to one.
82:32He just did it. That's true. Three touchdowns is nine to one.
82:36That's, that's, that's a Greg Dulcich touchdown. What do you think is more likely?
82:40Derek Henry has three or Greg Dulcich has one.
82:42Henry, Henry. Henry. Cause he's done it like four times in the last eight weeks.
82:47This is actually really funny to look at. Other, other things that are nine to one.
82:51If Derek Henry and Kaelin black, both score three touchdowns, the, and we put a dollar on it, we would win $1,300.
82:58Boom. All right. I'm going to do that. All right.
83:00Well, Malik Benson on the Raiders to score a touchdown is eight to one.
83:05And Derek Henry is, is nine to one. That's amazing.
83:07For three touchdowns. So is that, is that going to be our thing?
83:11It's going to be Kaelin black. Yeah. Three touchdowns.
83:14Yeah, let's do it. And then I want Derek Henry and Kaelin black parlaying to both score three touchdowns.
83:19Great. Okay. You're going to be rich. What do you want?
83:22DK? I'll just tell you guys on those. Yeah.
83:25You could just do Derek Henry score one touchdown minus two 70.
83:29I was looking at Keaton Mitchell scoring a touchdown in the spirit of the chargers actually looking good.
83:34I believe it's five to one. Keaton Mitchell. Okay.
83:36Check out our bet in the fan to lap.
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83:45And today's ringer one Oh seven is brought to you by Fandle.
83:49Again, we're competing against all the other shows here at the ringer and they changed the rules this year because they're mad that we won last year.
83:56So we're going to very curious that this year's this week, you know, everybody went three and two or two and three.
84:03So it's pretty close right now. And yet they decided in the graphic, we went two and three as did four other teams.
84:09And yet we're in last. Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. It shows that Bill's the best two and three team somehow.
84:15Curious. Curious. Yeah. Intriguing. So we have to give four picks right now.
84:19One has to be a teaser and the fifth one Sunday, which is funny to me still the, I can I pitch you guys on this?
84:26Yeah, I will. I'll double tap. If I have the same thing as you, I would like to just attack the bad quarterback situations.
84:33I want the Panthers giving two and a half points to the, against the Falcons.
84:37And it's like either Michael Penix with no practice or Cooper rush.
84:41And I want to just bet against that guy.
84:44I kind of think the bucks minus eight and a half Baker Mayfield revenge game against Cleveland and Deshaun Watson.
84:49I just want to do that. Yep. And I kind of want to take the bears minus four and a half versus
84:56the Vikings because it's either it's Carson Wentz or Kyler Murray.
84:59Yeah. All right. Quiet after that one. I can tell you guys are hard isn't in that one.
85:04I liked the, I, yeah, the bucks as well.
85:07I, can I offer my, a teaser? Teasers are always hard.
85:10We lost our teaser, but I'm going to offer another teaser.
85:13I know I hate the Eagles. Oh, if you, the Eagles are like minus seven, if you tease them down to minus
85:19one, it's basically like, they just have to beat the Titans.
85:23They just have to beat the Titans. And then you, and then we'll take the total, put it up to 45 and
85:29a half and take, take the under. We'll just put it with the Niners for the Niners.
85:34The Niners come down to like seven and a half, which I know seven and a half is a knowing number.
85:40It doesn't matter. They're going to, unless you don't, you're that afraid of the Australia time zone thing.
85:45Um, they're going to be jet lagged. We're going to have a rule.
85:49That's like, don't bet on teams that came back from Australia.
85:52What about the Steelers Patriots under it might rain?
85:55It's Rabel versus Mike McCarthy. It's like old school Rogers.
85:58I'm like, it's 41 and a half. We could bump that to under 47 and a half and put that with the Eagles game.
86:05You, but you think that you think the Titans and the Eagles are going to score more than 45 points.
86:10I kind of liked where Craig was going. All right.
86:13So let's do that. Let him cook. Okay. So that'll be 10 in this game.
86:1813. Okay. Let's do that then. So the Eagles plus one and the, and the, okay.
86:22I like that. I just keep thinking like if the Niners beat the, the dolphins by more than a touchdown, it seems easy.
86:29But you're right. They're coming back from Australia. It's it's that's dumb.
86:32Okay. So we got, we got bucks minus eight and a half.
86:36What other games? Panthers. So we need one other game.
86:39Yep. We want to do one more DK. You want to do Seattle?
86:42Yeah. I was thinking about that. Seattle minus four and a half.
86:46I don't know. I just feel like sales defense is so good.
86:49Yeah. Bet on, bet on the super bowl champions to beat the card.
86:53Also, they've just been so good against the Cardinals.
86:56I don't know. You know what I mean? It's, it's, this is a division game.
87:00The CX have dominated the Cardinals. I mean, the only other thing I was thinking about is like, I had written down
87:07that the giants getting more than a touchdown to play the Rams.
87:10I think the giants are good football team. I don't want to do that.
87:14Okay. Emotionally. And also just betting against the Rams after everyone just, they've heard 10 days of like, you guys suck.
87:20Okay. So let's do Seattle. Yeah. Okay. So we'll do the bear.
87:24So we're going to do the Panthers giving two and a half to the Falcons and we're betting against Falcons quarterbacks, Baker versus and bucks versus the Browns.
87:32And we're doing Seattle, even with Drew lock versus the Cardinals.
87:35And we're gonna do teasers. The Eagles. Is it Eagles minus one?
87:38Eagles are getting a point. Minus a point. Eagles minus one.
87:42And the under for Titans Eagles. Okay. I like those.
87:44Okay. We need one more. No, we had the other one on Sunday.
87:48The new rule. Okay. Gotcha. So only four. Got it.
87:51Today's rigor. One of seven was brought to you by Fandle odds.
87:55Subject to change. Can I read you one email?
87:57Yeah, of course. Yeah. So this email is from Kyle.
88:00Kyle. K bone. Breakfast was a bottle of water and a ham sandwich from Starbucks.
88:04Whole bottle of water. Ham sandwich. Those are kind of good.
88:08Those little Starbucks sandwiches aren't bad. Yeah. They're better than you think.
88:11There's one that little breakfast sandwich. They're a good like road trip breakfast.
88:15Yeah. The square bread one with the egg and the, it like a bit, it works.
88:19It's pretty good. It's not bad. It's, it's better than you.
88:23It's better than you think. I don't like that the egg bites come in like Reese's cups.
88:28Those, that freaks me out. Yeah. I know exactly what you mean.
88:31It's kind of, I just like, I don't know what I want them in, but not that.
88:36Can I ask you guys a question? When you go and order at a, like a deli or whatever, or like a
88:42breakfast place, do you, do you say, can I have a croissant or do you say, can I have a croissant?
88:48I say croissant. I don't say French. Do you say croissant?
88:52No, I was just wondering if you do. Do you say, can somebody pass me a La Croix?
88:57Sometimes, but that's just being like silly. Oh, were you just asking, or did you have like an art?
89:02Did you have a friend who does this? I mean, no, I've had people that I've heard do it before.
89:08Croissant. It's like, but I don't do that. I, I actually turn it up even harder.
89:13I'm saying the R as hard as I can.
89:15Croissant. Give me a crescent roll. Yeah. That's what I said.
89:18And they're like, what? Like one of them crescent rolls.
89:21And then they, they figure it out. So Kylie milled, because we asked, we were talking about fantasy football, auto drafting.
89:27We were talking about how, you know, do all this research and someone who auto drafted beat you in week one.
89:34And we were like, is there anything else like this?
89:36Oh yeah. We're like, like give all this time and energy.
89:40And you're like, yeah. I wonder if anyone could do this.
89:43And we said maybe stocks, maybe the S and P, but yeah.
89:46Yeah. We were, yeah. S and P 500 auto drafting for state traders.
89:50The Kylie milled in though, and said, another example of where auto drafting can beat the pros is.
89:55I guess there's this thing called Y12, which was a uranium enrichment facility in Oak Ridge during world war two.
90:01And they needed a lot of operators for this uranium enrichment facility.
90:05Because the basically enrichment, it was not very efficient in the 1940s.
90:08So they used, uh, on one hand, they had this one facility with, uh, just high school educated young women who worked on farms.
90:15Okay. And then they had a different facility, which was only like some of the best physicists in the world.
90:21And when they compared the two, the farm girls were better.
90:24Interesting. Because the physicists were just arguing with each other the whole time.
90:28Literally. Yes. The physicists were just arguing about the best way to do the enrichment.
90:32And the farm girls were just enriching uranium all day, exactly as they were told.
90:36And they were way better at this. That's funny.
90:39That's, that's kind of amazing. The physicists were probably mostly men back then too.
90:43And they were all probably just like cocky arguing about it.
90:46Actually, I think the best way to do it is a Wikipedia article.
90:50It's called it. I don't know. At Harvard, I learned that.
90:53The Calutron girls. Shout out the Calutron girls. C-A-L-U-T-R-O-N.
90:56Okay. That's good. There you go. The other one I just want to shout out.
91:00So this email is from Jeff. J-Bone or G-Bone.
91:03Jeff. Or G-Bone. Or the way you said that, or G-Bone is funny.
91:06Breakfast was a bowl of Greek. There's fewer people that spell with a G, I'd say.
91:11Breakfast was a bowl of Greek yogurt with blueberries, granola, and honey.
91:15Then an hour later, two air fried sweet potatoes and four scrambled eggs.
91:18Two sweet potatoes? Air fried. Do you know how much food a sweet potato is?
91:23Dude, eating an entire potato is a ton of food.
91:26It caught my eyes. It's like lambus bread. Two potatoes is just a lot of volume.
91:30I'm not saying it's unhealthy because it's fine, but that's just a ton of volume.
91:35Potato is one of the most filling. Just starchy.
91:37Just a whole fucking potato. It's crazy. All right.
91:40So Jeff emailed in and said, because DK asked, why do we even have it?
91:44Like, you're like, why do we even have an embassy there during the cold war?
91:48Right. Right. Right. You know, and I think perhaps stupidly, but yeah, the question of international.
91:53So Jeff, who's basically is like, I'm studying international relations, heard this conversation.
91:57And he's, he explains that basically like we need diplomats because we don't know what's going on over there.
92:02So we need to have some line of communication.
92:05So no one hits the button. Who do we talk to?
92:08If we want to talk to Russia. Exactly. So, uh, he explains that, you know, like he has some professors who've been diplomats or whatever.
92:15And he says, Russian diplomats are apparently intense. I can see that.
92:19He says, one of my professors was a diplomat in Russia after the cold war.
92:23And he once said that every single meeting he had with Russian diplomats, it would begin by putting a loaded pistol on a coffee table, pointing at them.
92:31What the fuck? Okay. Yeah, dude, the Russians are built different.
92:34I have a friend who, um, is Russian and I went to his birthday party or maybe it was a family birthday party.
92:41I can't remember, but it was like with his entire family.
92:44It was this, this back room at a restaurant and everybody got up every member of the family.
92:49It was like multi-generational grandparents all the way down to kids.
92:53People would get up and give speeches. After every speech, we took a shot of vodka.
92:57Like it was customary. There was like 10 speeches.
93:00We just kept ripping them. And grandparents were doing it.
93:03Aunts and uncles, cousins. It was crazy. People drove there.
93:06Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Cam.
93:08Thank you, Nikhil. Thank you, Austin. Thank you everyone for listening.
93:11Our rankings are fantasyfootball.themare.com for week two. Email us fantasy courts.
93:15We'll settle your fantasy court disputes. We'll, you know, you know, settle those disputes.
93:19Emails trivia questions for Monday. For trivia, we need the trivia tiebreakers for waivers.
93:23Thank you, Lord. Lord. Lord. 80s month. DK. Hit me.
93:26Yeah. I'm going to go with a classic. Okay.
93:28Absolute fricking classic. Okay. You cannot help, but just head bang to this song.
93:32I'm bricked up right now. What is it? I want to rock.
93:36Rock. Da, da, da, da. Twisted Sister. Well, you want to know what's funny about that song.
93:41I believe that's the inspiration for Goofy Goober Rock, the SpongeBob song.
93:44I don't know what that is, but that's great.
93:47You don't know Goofy Goober Rock? Dude, I didn't watch SpongeBob.
93:50There's no, no way he knows what it was, even though it was part of the original one second song challenge.
93:56DK, fantastic song. Twisted Sister. Great name. Great band name.
93:59I want to rock. I want to rock. Why do I know what all these bands are going to look like before
94:05I, before I, like I Googled them. I'm like, that's exactly what I was picturing.
94:10This was 1984. Man. Stay Hungry was the album.
94:12Stay Hungry. These guys might look like the most hair metal band ever.
94:16Yeah. Twisted Sister. Also a great name. I love that name.
94:19I thought, what is the name of the song again?
94:22I've clicked on the, I want to rock. Listen to the first five seconds.
94:26It's Goofy Goober Rock. It just is. DK, Goofy Goober Rock was a song from the very first SpongeBob feature length movie, which is fantastic.
94:33Might I add. And in it, actually that's not true.
94:36What am I saying? It's from the, the Super Bowl movie.
94:39He does the halftime show. Yes. Yeah. SpongeBob joins a band.
94:43They play at the real Super Bowl. Halftime in the, in the episode.
94:46And, uh, they play Goofy Goober Rock. And it's great.
94:49And it sounds like I want to rock. It's a great homage.
94:53All right. Sweet. Wait, didn't Travis Scott reference that during his halftime show?
94:57Goofy Goober or I want to rock? SpongeBob. Yeah.
94:59The SpongeBob. Didn't Travis Scott reference that? I don't know.
95:02Or maybe it was just in the stadium. DK, can you pull up Goofy Goober Rock?
95:07Listen to it. Sure. I do want to, I do want you to listen to this song.
95:12Goofy Goober Rock. Let me hear it. Oh, wait, but you got, I got to make sure you listen to the right thing.
95:18Are you going to send it to me? Wait a minute.
95:21Wait a minute. Wait a minute. It is from the movie.
95:25Right? I don't know. It's not from the halftime show.
95:28The halftime show is, Oh, you're right. Keep all this.
95:30It's from the movie. The SpongeBob, the SpongeBob halftime show, they say sweet victory.
95:34Yes. It's sweet victory. That's correct. You're right. I had it and then I lost it, but now I'm back.
95:40DK, I sent you the YouTube video. Oh, I can, I can hear it.
95:44It's, I found it in this clip. You're a Goofy Goober.
95:48It's the same thing. Yeah. It's the exact same thing.
95:50Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. DK backed himself into SpongeBob.
95:53He didn't even know it. Great song. Iconic really.
95:56Yeah. I think I'm going to add both to the playlist.
95:59There's, there's nothing more 80s than just saying, screaming, I want to rock.
96:03What's your band's name? Twisted Sister. I want to rock.
96:05I want to rock. So what if it goes, what if it starts with, I want to rock.
96:11And then everybody else goes rock. Fucking, we're going to sell 20 billion of these.
96:15Yeah. Everybody on earth will like it. Great. Goodbye.
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