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0:37On today's episode, we are power ranking things we instantly regret doing after watching a single week of NFL football.
0:43Monday Night Football, another year of being tortured by the whims of Sean Payton.
0:47Great. We also do a good fantasy court. I went to the Emmys.
0:51I actually got stabbed at the Emmys, so I'll tell you about that.
0:55And we also recap The Ringer Fantasy Football League after Week 1.
0:58Spoiler alert, I'm in last place. We'll be right back.
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1:06Additional taxes, fees, and terms apply. Welcome to The Ringer Fantasy Football Show.
1:10My name is Danny Heifetz. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlbeck.
1:14And today it is Power Hour, where every Wednesday we power rank something.
1:17And this week we are power ranking all of the things we instantly, immediately regret after one week of football and feel really stupid about.
1:25Inspired by Jalen Waddell on Monday Night Football. Right, Craig?
1:28Yeah, you guys witnessed me kind of crashing out in real time.
1:31I was at the Emmys, which we can talk about at the end of the episode.
1:36And I was also watching the game on my phone and checking the Denver box score over and over, thinking this can't be right.
1:43Is Jalen Waddell playing? Did he tweak an ankle?
1:46What happened? And yeah, it inspired the idea of what's the immediate Week 1 regret?
1:50The post-nut clarity of what was I thinking? Of course this week.
1:54Horribly wrong. Of course! Just feel unbelievably immediately, unbelievably stupid for a bunch of things.
1:58We have a whole list here. We have to start, though, with this Broncos-Chiefs game.
2:02The Chiefs absolutely obliterated the Broncos. It was 31-10.
2:05It just kept getting worse and worse as the game goes.
2:08Because I want to give... I don't even know where we want to start.
2:12Like, Ken Walker, Jalen Waddell, the Holmes, all these things.
2:15Do we start... Do you want to give Ken Walker his flowers here, or should we just talk about Jalen Waddell?
2:22We hate him so much. I would like to start with Jalen Waddell.
2:25Start with hate. And then we can get to the more exciting stuff.
2:29The Jalen Waddell thing, to me, is just... I can't believe I fell for it again, man.
2:34Yeah. Like, I can't believe I did this to myself.
2:37Everyone knew I was going to regret it immediately when I was talking about this.
2:42Why didn't anyone tell me directly? Why didn't anyone call me or stage some kind of intervention?
2:47Jalen Waddell had one catch for two yards. One catch for two yards.
2:50He had one catch... And a drop from two yards.
2:53Yeah, he had three targets, one of which was a blatant drop.
2:57Yeah, so I don't know why I did this.
3:00I don't know why I did it. I... It's a fourth-round pick for a lot of people.
3:05I haven't been in the Ringer League. Yeah, yeah.
3:07I took him... My longstanding high school league that I've had for 15-plus years, I took Jalen Waddell.
3:12He was there. It seemed like a reasonable price.
3:15And I was like, everybody seems to be in on Jalen Waddell.
3:19And I guess I'll just hop in. What if I'm wrong?
3:22What if Jalen Waddell's great? I'm not going to be the stupid idiot who sits this one out.
3:27I needed, on Monday Night Football, to win in week one for my team, I needed 14 points from Waddell.
3:33A reasonable number. And a half PPR league. I was like, all right.
3:3760 yards and a touchdown, I'd probably get it done.
3:40I needed 14 points. He didn't even get 14 yards.
3:43And I just... And you know what's funny is I knew it.
3:46Like, after the first quarter was over, I was like, I know it.
3:50I know it's not going to happen. I can feel it.
3:53I know the way they're... They're like, he's like a decoy.
3:57They're just like running him in certain directions and then throwing it the other way.
4:01Pat Bryant and Evan Ingram are running around like crazy.
4:04You know, I went... I just... The guy who doesn't fucking play any of his best players that DK's been talking about for three years...
4:11Four years. I don't know why I decided to bet on that.
4:15He's... They turned him into expensive Marvin Mims last night.
4:18Makes no sense that we were in on this guy.
4:21We are so stupid. Just so everyone knows how stupid we are.
4:24Jalen Waddell is Craig and I's least favorite player in fantasy football.
4:28We invented the Waddell model, which is the idea of a player underperforming their fantasy projections every week because it's Jalen Waddell
4:34always, always shows 12 points, 13 points, and he'll get you seven.
4:38Never hits the projection. And then Danny Kelly's least favorite coach in the NFL is Sean Payton.
4:43And Jalen Waddell unites... You gotta say why. You gotta say why.
4:46Because he doesn't play as good players. Right. He decides which guy is going to get a bunch of targets in any
4:53given game, and it's never the one that you're playing in your fantasy league.
4:57It's not because he thinks it's a smart strategy.
5:00It's because he wants you specifically to be upset.
5:02He wants to fucking piss you off. That's why he does it.
5:06Our least favorite and most disappointing player in fantasy united with the coach we hate because they don't play their good players.
5:12And instead of being like, this is the biggest player to avoid this year, we're like, yeah, no.
5:18Let's take him. Just take him. It's fine. I kept him in one of my leagues.
5:22What the fuck are we doing? Idiot. I'd like to get granular for a second because this stat just really pissed me off.
5:29I wanted to look at how many routes he ran and what his route rate was and how much he was actually playing.
5:36It was all fine. It wasn't anything egregious, but he ran around on 82% of team dropbacks, which you'd think is like, okay, that's not so bad.
5:4482%. To be true, we were duped. Sean Payton told his wife that his wife should draft Jalen Waddle.
5:49And Sean Payton was talking up that Jalen Waddle's going to play everywhere except the offensive line.
5:54And he did. Like the first two drives, Jalen Waddle's in the backfield like Jackson Smith and Jake was in the NFC Championship game.
6:01They're moving him all over, slot, outside, motion, everything.
6:04It just turns out that instead of, we thought there was some small chance that Jalen Waddle was fast Michael Thomas.
6:10And it turns out that he's like expensive Marvin Mims.
6:13He's just a clear out receiver who can't catch passes over the middle and won't catch passes in traffic.
6:19And because he had a drop on third down, Sean Payton hates him now.
6:23He ran routes at a percentage this week that was lower than the likes of Ted Hurst, Makai Lemon, and Trey Tucker.
6:29He ran less percent of the routes. When the team drops back to pass, when a guy is running a route, he
6:36ran less routes than Ted Hurst, a rookie on the Bucs, Makai Lemon, a rookie on the Eagles, and Trey Tucker on the Raiders.
6:43This is the most dead dove, do not eat, what were we expecting?
6:47There is something going on in this building, in this team.
6:50Because I think we need to say, Sean Payton was not the one calling plays today.
6:55We need to say that it was Davis Webb, the new offensive coordinator, who probably won't be the offensive coordinator for very long.
7:01No, does somebody have eyes on Davis Webb right now?
7:04I want to say though, like... They're going to find him floating in a lane.
7:09This is, Craig, to your point, he ran a route on 82% of his snaps.
7:13All the best players are like 95. Like Jamar Chase was 98% of routes Jamar Chase ran.
7:18He also was the first read target, this is according to Fantasy Points, which tracks this, the first read target on 14% of his routes.
7:26So they went out and traded a first round pick for a veteran established receiver and then like one out of 10 plays, he gets a look.
7:34I swear to God, every time he lined up, I thought they were like punking me.
7:38Every time he lined up on the field, they would immediately drop back and look the opposite direction.
7:44I thought it was like, it was a bit.
7:46He wasn't involved. We're not even going to look in his direction.
7:50He wasn't involved. It's the second straight game because the Bills Broncos game too, or I guess the one with Bo Nix, second straight game.
7:57The first three plays were scripted for Pat Bryant, who they like mostly because he blocks really hard.
8:02And the whole thing is annoying, but the Broncos, I mean, they were obliterated and they deserved it.
8:0831 to 10. The other, I mean, I truly, we need like a, we're going to have to do like an autopsy
8:14here to figure out how we didn't, how we ended up being excited about Jalen Waddle.
8:19I just can't believe, I can't believe that now in week two, I have to seriously decide if I should start Jalen Waddle or Devon Vele.
8:27Literally all, this is why we said we'd get tattoos on our body.
8:30I, the other, do you want to hear, do you want to hear some other players that had around his first read target rate?
8:37Yeah, I would love to actually. Jahan Dotson. Okay.
8:40I don't even remember what team he's on. Is he, is he on the Falcons?
8:44He's on the Falcons. Jahan Dotson. Malachi Fields in his first game in the NFL.
8:49Yep. Antonio Williams in his first game in the NFL, who also, by the way, played like 20% of the snaps for
8:55the offense and still had the first, had like 60 yards and a touchdown.
8:59Yeah. 80 Mitchell, who never generates targets ever. We should have expected that.
9:03And then Ryan Flornoy, who I, again, I don't remember what team he's on.
9:07He's on Dallas. Yeah. Okay. That was what the, the Broncos after an entire off season of planning decided to do with
9:14this guy who they traded a first round pick for.
9:17That was, that was the strategy. And that was very, they did that on purpose.
9:21I think we need to get Sean Payton's wife on the show.
9:25Yeah. She's one of the, maybe she's one of the seven.
9:28I think. This is going to drive me insane.
9:31It's important to note that sometimes a player, has an outsized impact on the game than the box score reflects.
9:37Jalen Waddle was worse than the box score reflects because he dropped the third and seven that honestly would have completely changed the game.
9:44And then immediately, he like forgot what the ball looked like.
9:47He forgot what it felt like to get a target.
9:50He was scared. But overall though, the chiefs came back.
9:53The other thing that I thought made me feel really stupid.
9:56So the chiefs come back. It's obviously Patrick Mahomes, his first game back from the torn ACL is like 287 games or whatever.
10:03Ken Walker's first game after winning Superbowl MVP. First drive, Patrick Mahomes immediately just runs in like a 23-yard touchdown and just
10:09like barrels in, does a Josh Allen-esque touchdown immediately runs it in.
10:13And I'm sitting there and I'm like, did we take six months and we decided to rank 15 players ahead of Patrick Mahomes?
10:20Were we at like a fugue state? What was happening?
10:22I'm like, we just doubted the greatest quarterback of our generation.
10:26The only time we'll ever be able to buy the dip on him.
10:30I just, that also was up there with Jalen Waddell for me where I'm like, what the fuck were we thinking with doubting Mahomes?
10:37Ringer 107, everybody, six of the seven people in the contest bet against Patrick Mahomes on Monday Night Football, which is also
10:43should call all of our sanity into question. I've made a huge mistake.
10:47Off-season brain is a disease. It actually really is.
10:50It's a fucking disease. It really is. Like, literally we would have been so much better if we just had all of
10:56our work reviewed by someone who had not watched or heard a second of football content since February ended.
11:02It'd be like, Mahomes next to Jared Goff, huh?
11:04At home. Yeah. Mahomes versus the Broncos. But the Broncos, Ken Walker obviously looked amazing.
11:09Ken Walker completely changed the Chiefs offense. Yeah, this is a palate cleanser.
11:12This was the only reason I wasn't crashing out quite as hard as Craig last night is because I was just in
11:19a euphoric state watching a team give an extremely talented running back a lot of touches.
11:24Like, can you imagine the gall, the fucking just hubris and giving a good player the football a lot?
11:29Like, what the fuck are these guys doing? Ken Walker?
11:3223 carries? Fucking career high? 173 yards and two touchdowns?
11:35Ken Walker had more years through scrimmage in his first three quarters than he did in the entire Super Bowl when he was a Super Bowl MVP.
11:43This was just so validating because I've been, like, an annoying idiot about Ken Walker for the past, like, four years.
11:49And granted, like, he has been injured a few times during his career, but, like, for the most part, it was just
11:56the Seahawks were unwilling to give him a big workload and then we saw immediately what would happen if a team was willing to do it.
12:0323 touches, or sorry, 23 carries. He also added three catches and a touchdown.
12:08The best part was, and I love this, and I said this to you guys at the time, I was like, I
12:14don't think the Seahawks really ever had a chance of keeping him because he just wanted to leave because every time he
12:20would get, even sniff the end zone, the Seahawks would take him out and put him on the sideline and put Ken Charbonnet in, or what's his name?
12:29Zach Charbonnet. Yeah. One of Craig's great original takes was that Ken Walker and Zach Charbonnet should switch names because it benefits their playing styles.
12:36But in this game, Emmett Johnson got tackled at, like, the five-yard line and they put Kenneth Walker in and he scored a touchdown.
12:43Can you imagine? I can't even believe it. It was so amazing to watch this game.
12:48Ken Walker was actually an example of when off-season analysis is exactly correct, which was the Chiefs had the lowest explosive run
12:54rate in the NFL the last two years and also, the stat that blew my mind is the Chiefs were dead last
13:01in just running back scoring touchdowns from outside the red zone.
13:04Like, last over the last couple seasons. And Ken Walker is there to be a home run hitter and, like, create shit that isn't there.
13:11And he comes in and immediately does that over and over and over again.
13:16There was so many times. A six-yard touchdown. Yeah, there were so many times where the Chiron was like, first time since
13:222017 that the Chiefs had XYZ or whatever. It was like all these, you know, Kareem Hunt stats from his rookie year.
13:28His debut in week one, which we kept referencing.
13:31And this game was exactly like that game. Ken Walker, 16 broken tackles in this game, you guys.
13:3616. First, first most tackles per attempt. Miss, sorry, missed tackles forced per attempt.
13:41He also had 88 yards on explosive runs, which was most in the NFL this week.
13:45Obviously, the only thing that I'm worried about is him getting hurt.
13:49But like, you could say that about any of the running backs in the NFL.
13:53I just, I just love the fact that they're willing to use him as their workhorse, as the guy that's going to be the engine to their offense.
14:01So, the stat you just, how many missed tackles did you say Denver had?
14:06According to Fantasy Points, he had 16 missed tackles forced in this game.
14:09Which is twice as many as anyone else. We'll get to Bo Nix in a second, but I do want to, Mahomes
14:16looked way faster than I think I thought. He wasn't perfect.
14:19I mean, he had an undrafted left tackle at free agent.
14:22Or sorry, undrafted free agent at left tackle, which I thought would be a huge issue.
14:27And shockingly, it was not. The Broncos defensive line was really, I don't want to say a non-factor, but kind of a non-factor versus the Chiefs.
14:35Well, how do you neutralize a pass rush? Great running game.
14:38And the Chiefs defensive line really couldn't, kind of had their way with the Broncos offensive line.
14:43They were getting to Bo Nix easily. So frankly, the Broncos looked soft and unprepared.
14:47They could not block, they could not get off blocks, and they could not tackle.
14:52That's like the kind of stuff that old school coaches like Sean Payton, like that is a physicality issue.
14:57And that is, they don't know their assignments and they're not playing fast.
15:01They're not playing locked in. Like there were times Rasheed Rice's touchdown.
15:05Yeah, he didn't even extend his arms to tackle him.
15:08He just like rammed his shoulder into him and Rasheed Rice bounced off of him.
15:12It was like a Rasheed, I mean, this is morbid, but he did a hit and run.
15:17Rasheed Rice just barreled into that guy, knocked over the linebacker and ran into the end zone.
15:22I'm like, he's running into you. They could, the amount of missed, Ken Walker breaks that 60 yard run for the touchdown.
15:2940 yards down. One of the Broncos cornerbacks catches him.
15:31Oh right, yeah, yeah. And then he's like, you know when the running back's on the sideline and the guy like hits
15:38him out and you're always kind of like, oh, do something.
15:41But you kind of, there's nothing you can do to not be knocked over one foot and step out of bounds.
15:47This guy couldn't knock Ken, he got two hands on him and didn't knock Ken Walker out of bounds.
15:53There was like, the trenches, the entire game, the Broncos had no physicality and then, on top of it all, it was
15:59like the worst game I've seen Bo Nix play in the NFL.
16:03I thought Ken Walker looked like Saquon Barkley. He's got that kind of bow-legged gait that Barkley has, you know, with like
16:09where his legs are always just, he's always kind of at the ready to make a cut.
16:14Yeah, it's like he's like skiing through mountains through like the defenders.
16:18He looked, he looked fucking unbelievable and it finally looked like the Chiefs, like I don't, I'm not, it's not like a
16:24one-to-one saying that like they now have their Tyree kill again, but it is nice that the Chiefs now have a player
16:31that Patrick Mahomes can rely on to get explosive plays without involving Patrick Mahomes.
16:35It already seems like this offense is just so different.
16:38I thought even Emmett Johnson, their backup running back looked really explosive as well, but they look like a completely different team
16:44already and they're like, they're thin at wide receiver.
16:47Like you have Worthy who's I think kind of what he is.
16:51You have Rasheed Rice who's solid and old Travis Kelsey and that's kind of it.
16:55But this running game and the way that Ken Walker's playing, dude, he was like, it wasn't like a couple big runs.
17:02Like he was just rattling off chunk play after chunk play.
17:05It looked like Saquon two years ago. It was unbelievable.
17:08Yeah, and again, the Saquon two years ago is what happens when a really great talented running back is able to make
17:14people miss four yards downfield and not in the backfield like real Saquon Barkley was.
17:19I completely agree. And also, I mean, the Broncos defense is supposed to be the strength of the team.
17:24Look terrific. I, Ken Walker, we had high for all these reasons, but I mean, I mean, the Broncos defense last year was top five in DVOA.
17:32And, and the, I, a year ago that Chiefs Chargers game, Mahomes even from week one on, he was having to get the buckets.
17:39Like he was when they needed to play. He usually saves running for the December and the playoffs.
17:45And he had to do it starting week one last year.
17:48And now it's like, he doesn't need to do that.
17:51And so it was money well spent. The flip side is Bo Nix.
17:55I really, usually when team comes out as flat as Denver did in all three phases, you're like, that has to be coaching.
18:01Like, like, but Bo Nix's lack of pocket awareness, the amount of players that were just getting close to him and just
18:08knocking the ball out of his hand is like a level of spatial awareness for a third year quarterback that I found really concerning.
18:15And then when he did get the ball in the right spot, it's like Jalen Waddle's dropping it because he sees a guy about to clock him.
18:23Bo Nix pre-snap was like getting delays of game on third and two.
18:27Like, like all these like pivotal moments, pre-snap, post-snap, all the decision making was off.
18:31And then during the play, I just, it was really concerning how unaware he was of what was going on around him.
18:37Yeah. Webb is going to get the hook quickly.
18:40Oh yeah. I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. Cause that was a, it was just discombobulated on, on offense the whole game.
18:46This is kind of a version of coping with week one overreactions.
18:50Yes, exactly. I'm sure people are listening right now being like, can you settle down?
18:54The Broncos are going to be fine. None of these teams barely, they barely, these players barely play like real game level snaps in August.
19:02And they're just like getting into the swing of things.
19:05They, they have a new play caller. Like, it'll be fine.
19:08There's a very like, likely chance that like Waddle will be fine.
19:11However, this sucks right now. Yeah, totally. I get it.
19:14I, if everyone's thinking like, dude, it's week one, relax.
19:17Totally fair. Totally true. The Broncos look terrible. And maybe in a month, it'll be fine.
19:22And they didn't play a lot in the preseason.
19:25Every team you could make that argument for still not a great sign.
19:28Some offenses did look good this week. And it's right.
19:31It's, I agree with everything you're saying about Denver, but the inspiration for this episode was watching that Jalen Waddle thing and
19:38being like, why did we take him? And that is going to be the point of this power ranking.
19:43It's we're power ranking things that we just instantly regretted after one week of football that made us just instantly just be like, we're so stupid.
19:51And I, I think Jalen Waddle was the right place to start because he, you know, he has, it says one catch
19:58for two yards, but the way the box scores work, I just, I was like, oh, that's weird.
20:03The targets must be after the catches. That's weird.
20:05Oh no, that's yardage. That's, that's really concerning. So I hate him.
20:09One catch for two yards is, is incredible. It's remarkable.
20:12If they, if they don't have a higher than 14% first read target rate next, next week, I don't know what I'm going to do.
20:19I can't, I don't, I honestly don't know what I'm going to do.
20:23I might, I might blow a gasket. Why trade for a guy?
20:27I feel, I don't understand. I also feel really stupid that in our ringer fantasy league, I took chase Brown one pick
20:33before Ken Walker and I feel like a clown.
20:36Yeah. I also, I'll probably be fine though. But yeah.
20:39Well, we're going to do this power hour style.
20:41We're going to come back to that in a second, Craig, power hour style.
20:46For those who don't know, here's the way it works.
20:48We are going to rank all these things that we really regret after a single week of football.
20:54And we're going to put three minutes on the clock and every three minutes you're going to hear this sound, which is no longer Tom, Tom club.
21:02Okay. Do we like it? Are we locking this sound in for the season?
21:06I think, look, we tested out three last week.
21:08We selected this one. We'll test this one out exclusively today.
21:12And if we don't like it, we can, we can move on, but we don't have to get married to the damn song.
21:18Right? Yeah. It's a, it's a great song. It's, it's a great copyright free song.
21:23Yeah. It's such a good song. Number one. Well, really number three on these power rankings after Jalen Waddell, believing in Jalen
21:29Waddell was stupid and ranking Patrick Mahomes as a backup quarterback was stupid.
21:33Number three and things we instantly regretted. Craig, you texted me believing in the chargers was something you instantly regretted.
21:39This is the definition of insanity. It's doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
21:45Yeah. Heifetz, you said something last week and maybe it was a Sunday night and it was the first time I was
21:51like, oh, I think you might be right when you were like, yeah, I just took a step back.
21:57I was, I was hanging out at the Justin Herbert fan club bar and I just like took, I just kind of like stepped back a little bit.
22:05I just like, everyone was at the bar and I just kind of, I'm still, I stayed in the restaurant.
22:11I'm still inside, but I just took a step back.
22:14I'm closer to the door. I'm close, just a little closer to the door.
22:18I'm ready to Irish exit. I checked my watch, you know, and you y'all calculated yawn and eye contact with your partner.
22:24It is getting late, isn't it? I don't know, man.
22:27I, it's very likely it's week one, Mike McDaniel complicated offense.
22:31It's going to take a minute, but I'm nervous and I feel, I feel stupid that I once again talked myself into
22:37everything working on a team that's never worked. I feel, I feel like I, I've almost like disassociated with the Chargers a
22:44little bit where I'm just like, I'm going to do this every year.
22:47I don't care. Like, it is what it is.
22:50I, I have no control over this. When I, I'm just going to keep doing it.
22:55It's like drinking. You're like, I don't, whatever. I know, like, you're, you're about Damon in the Departed.
23:00Yeah. Yeah. Craig, it's like, Craig, why do you do this to yourself?
23:04You feel like shit every Sunday morning. I'm like, I'm just going to keep doing it.
23:09But it's, when I started at the Ringer, I think my first year, um, they, it was a big pitch meeting and like Robert Mays was there.
23:16Kevin Clark was there. All the Ringer writers are there and I went last because I was like basically an intern and
23:23I pitched like, this is the year for the Chargers and Mays looked at me and was like, man, so I think
23:29someone's pitched this room that for seven years in a row.
23:33Sweet summer child. Yeah. It was 27. That was 10 years ago.
23:36And then five, four years ago, I wrote a story called The Complete History of Chargers Failure, which I actually think is
23:43now missing a lot of Chargers Failure. And then somewhere in 2026, we decided with them having this really hard schedule.
23:49And again, all these players coming off injury means they're all rehabbing that we were like, yeah, no, this is the one.
23:55And I just, I feel like a moron. And also to your point, I took a Mary, like a Marion Hampton.
24:02I was like, man, we talked so much about the Chargers in the Ringer League.
24:06I feel like I have to put my money where my mouth is, even though the rankings were off.
24:12I was like, I just think I should have a Marion Hampton in this league.
24:16And I was like, I feel like I've said so much shit about the Chargers.
24:20I put my money where my mouth is and I regret it.
24:24My money and my, my mouth and my money are really hurting.
24:27Wow. What timing? That's quite the line. My mouth and my money are really hurting.
24:32Yeah. She just fucking took Ken Walker. Like we said we should.
24:35I did. We said we should just take the good veterans.
24:39I gotta tell you, it feels phenomenal. Yeah, I have freaking Henry and Walker.
24:43And you did that to spite me. Yeah. Yeah.
24:45It was awesome. I don't regret that. Okay. Here's the next one.
24:49We've talked about this a little bit, but I think it must be stated once more for the record.
24:54And we have to dive into this. It was ridiculous that we believed or even entertained to the idea that flying to
25:01Australia the day before a game was like in any way a good idea or like there was some kind of science behind it.
25:08I don't, I don't care about the science. This is stupid.
25:11These people are going to be tired after flying 15 hours in an airplane.
25:15We heard that. That's my credit. Yeah. Yeah. Can I expand a little bit to like the Rams in general?
25:21Yeah. In the ringer league where I'm in dead last, I, I drafted Devante Adams and let me tell you something.
25:27The instant regret I felt when he was just kind of an afterthought in this game where I was like, man, I
25:34took the guy who's going to be 34 this year who had 700 yards last year and 14 touchdowns.
25:40And I just kind of expected that to happen again.
25:42Yeah. And it didn't week one. And now I'm like, well, all right, well, let's hope this works because if this guy
25:49doesn't, if this guy doesn't massively defy regression, I'm fucked.
25:52Yeah. It's like, oh, well, he only had 700 yards, but he had like 14 touchdowns and you're like, and then he doesn't score a touchdown.
26:00You're like, oh shit. Wow. I kind of need those 40 yards every week to have a touchdown next to it.
26:06Don't I? Can I, I feel like if we ranked next year's rankings in like week six, we'd nail it.
26:12We should just do next summer's rankings now. I think we should, I really do feel like we should invent the, it's the week two fantasy league.
26:20It starts in week two. Maybe. You know, you know how the, you know how Jeopardy has a category that's just like
26:26stupid answers and it's like an extremely obvious answer or question or whatever, however they form the, the, the question.
26:32Uh-huh. Basically like, what kind of fruit does a coconut tree have?
26:35And it's like, what is a coconut? Yeah. Isn't Jeopardy?
26:38This continent comes from mustard seeds. They really do do that.
26:42And all the answers are really obvious. That's an SNL bit.
26:45This comes from mustard seeds. Um, the answer was mustard.
26:48Mustard comes from mustard seeds. The answer to, to the question of, uh, which team is going to look more hungover or
26:54jet lagged after flying there the day before? It was the, it was the Rams guys.
26:59It was obviously the Rams. Can I tell you a stat?
27:02I already said this before, but Matt Stafford in the first half of all the games last week, dead last in success rate.
27:09This is the MVP of the NFL. Below Cooper Rush.
27:12Below Deshaun Watson. Dude. I, and on that note, can I give you a stat that we didn't discuss and I cannot
27:18let the show keep going with it, never mentioning this.
27:21Did you see that Raheem Morris the defensive coordinator for the Rams did not have a 50th birthday?
27:27The Niners. His birth, sorry, yeah, the Niners. I apologize.
27:30Oh, too late. Shit. It was like a leap.
27:32Was it like a leap year thing? No, it was a leap day thing.
27:36They missed his birthday because on the Wednesday before the game.
27:40They flew on Tuesday, landed Thursday. So Raheem Morris never turned 50 years old.
27:44That's his new job. Hell yeah. So he's 49.
27:46But like I, but yeah, anyway, this, um, I, I can't believe we just actually debated which of the strategies was better.
27:53I think the, the point we're bringing up here right now too is just like it affected everybody.
27:58Stafford sucked. He was actually quite literally dead last among all starting 32 quarterbacks and fantasy points in week one.
28:04Did not expect that from the league MVP. Uh, Devante Adams, three catches for 26 yards after last year being the goal line back for the Rams.
28:12He was in on 16% of the goal to go snaps for the Rams.
28:16They just took him Pukunakua had his worst game since the start of last season.
28:21And the, the only game that was worse last year was one in which he got hurt.
28:26So it affected everybody. Kyron Williams salvaged it, but he only had a 11 carries for 41 yards.
28:31I just came up with a hot take on the Rams that is so hot that I'm going to write it down
28:37because it's not even ready right now, but it's like a borderline purge.
28:41Write that down. We've disrespected royalty free Tom Tom enough.
28:44Sure, we did. Hyvitz is up next with his instant regret.
28:47The host is writing something down. I just thought of something.
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30:34My next instant, immediate regret after week one, I cannot tell you how stupid I felt watching Josh Allen and remembering I
30:41told people not to take Josh Allen this year.
30:43And just being like, I spent six months being like, wait on quarterback.
30:47Like, you know, who needs all these elite, amazing to watch quarterbacks like Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson.
30:52You know, you should take Kyler Murray. Who got hurt on the, who threw a pick on his first play and then
30:59like left with a concussion and his 11 snap.
31:01I was gonna say, it wasn't even the injury.
31:04First play of the game, he chucks up some duck and gets picked.
31:08And I was like, oh shit. Like, I was like, this is terrible.
31:12I just, I, what's the succession line? It's like, oh, your guns turned to sausages.
31:16I was like, fuck, I talked about this guy for a month.
31:19And then Josh Allen is going against the Texans defense and just destroying them.
31:24Bill and Sal have a good thing that two rushing touchdowns and two passing touchdowns by a quarterback should just be called a Josh Allen.
31:31They're right. Josh Allen had a Josh Allen on the Houston Texans.
31:34And I'm sitting there and I'm like, where the fuck did we rank George Pickens over Josh Allen?
31:40Just, you have to, every off season I'm telling you guys, listeners at home, ignore everything we, it's like Odysseus.
31:46Just ignore everything you hear. The wax in the ears.
31:49Yes. Just take the best two, take Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen whenever you want.
31:53Reach for them. Take them in the first fucking round.
31:56I don't care. Don't listen to anything anybody says.
31:59If they ever say quarterback's deep this year, they're wrong.
32:02Just take Josh Allen. We have to do the tattoo thing right this year because the reality is we say, we actually are right.
32:09Like the tattoos were like, take cool players, rounds early, stop over worrying about it.
32:13And then we kind of like at the end capitulate and make our rankings like mathematically sound and we forget shit like,
32:19like, like it is, it was correct according to the market to rank Drake London ahead of Josh Allen.
32:25And then you watch week one and Drake London had 29 yards and I'm like, why the fuck did we rank this guy ahead of Josh Allen?
32:33That was insane. Yeah. When I was in, when I was in Toronto, I was talking to Matt Bellany about his fantasy
32:39team and every year he keeps Josh Allen for like an absurd amount of money.
32:44And he like, is a, an extremely casual fantasy football player.
32:47We're walking out of the hotel to go somewhere.
32:50He looks down on his phone. He's like, oh, I won.
32:53I scored the most points in the league this week.
32:56And he's like, Josh Allen, man, I saw you had like 40 points.
33:00That's great. He's like, stars are all that badder.
33:02The rest is interchangeable. I was like, God damn it.
33:05If I zoom out, if you zoom out at the highest level, it's like, why, why did you not take Josh Allen this year?
33:12It's like, yeah, cause I'm smart and I thought about it.
33:16Fuck it. We spent six months thinking about football and we're like, don't take Josh Allen.
33:20I just love him. The best player in the league.
33:23So casually, he's like, stars are all that matters.
33:26The rest are interchangeable. I was like, fuck. Fuck.
33:29What are we doing? We're so close. My, my next instant regret and look, Philadelphia fans.
33:33I understand if you're upset about what I'm about to say, that's totally fine.
33:37You won the game. You beat the commanders and you're one to know, but like taking Saquon, really paying up for Saquon
33:44and having high expectations for any relevant player on the Eagles is stupid to me.
33:48And I don't know why I did it. And I'm upset with myself because while they won and there was big splash plays.
33:55And if you watch the highlights of the Eagles, you'll see a deep ball to Wicks.
34:00You'll see two great passes to Dallas Goddard who scored.
34:03You'll see Hurts with like three really good runs.
34:05If you remove that, this game was really messy.
34:08The Eagles had 10 first downs in this game, which was second worst in the NFL.
34:13They had 10, the Broncos were dead last with nine and then it was the Eagles with 10.
34:18Kim Ward, Malik Willis, Deshaun Watson all had more first downs than the Eagles offense.
34:23Saquon Barkley had 83 yards rushing. He had eight fantasy points.
34:2678 of those 83 yards came after contact and he was hit behind the line of scrimmage seven of his 15 carries.
34:32He had one catch for negative three yards. He had the fifth worst yards before contact per rush in the league this week.
34:39And I'm just like, Landon Dickerson just went out.
34:42He's on IR. And I'm like, this offense once again looks like stagnant Eagles bullshit and I don't know why I'm back in on it.
34:49Craig, I feel your pain. Because his name's Saquon Barkley.
34:52Devontae Smith didn't do anything. Honestly, my indictment of the Eagles this week they reminded me of the Giants.
34:58And what I mean by that is it reminded me of Saquon Barkley on the Giants which is when Saquon has good
35:04blocking one of the best rushers of all time.
35:07And still looks great. He had a 40 yard run which is like the only reason why his stats were decent.
35:13He looked awesome. He still looks great. And he was a more disciplined and he's more disciplined now frankly going north-south than
35:19he used to be with jump cuts and all this stuff.
35:23But the Eagles offensive line it's borderline not special anymore.
35:25It used to be the best offensive line in years.
35:28And then Landon the truth is Landon Dickerson is actually one of those players who plays when he's hurt.
35:34And Landon Dickerson has not been healthy since week one of last year.
35:38Like Jeff Stoutland who is the run game guru Yoda that retired or was basically like I'm sick of dealing with Sirianni
35:44and retired went on the Kelsey podcast he said Landon Dickerson was the toughest player he coached in 40 years.
35:50People have no idea what Landon Dickerson goes through.
35:53I think he got hurt versus the Cowboys last year.
35:56It hasn't been the same. Plays this game toughs it out and he's like I need to go to injured reserve I'm
36:02not good enough but the Eagles don't have the half.
36:05Lane Johnson this is probably his last season and then Jason Kelce is not there and suddenly you're like this is just
36:12a mediocre line and now the Jalen Hurts offense looks fucked up and I'm not trying to be mean to the guy
36:18but it's the same thing as it always is which is they're just they're a python strangling people it's like a live
36:25stream of a python strangling something to death and you watch it for three hours every week and you're like God and
36:31there's four plays that look cool right? Like the Devontae Smith sideline stuff is cool like Jalen Hurts has four cool throws
36:38and everything else is like watching the life squeezed out of you dude man what a great royalty free tune amazing song
36:44did you know that the Eagles last year had a worse three and out rate a higher three and out rate than
36:51the Jets they were lasting lower than the Titans with Cam Ward and Brian Callen getting fired well it's about the same
36:57as the Titans I'm just looking at the stat right now this year so far they are second to last like Craig
37:03said like Craig said Deshaun Malik Wells Cam Ward all had more first downs and I will say before we move on
37:10really quick Saquon got interviewed after the game about the offense's performance and he was really candid he was like he said
37:16quote look we won the game we have to be happy that we won but he said quote there's stuff we got
37:23away with and we have to be honest with ourselves that's what Saquon said after week one week one and like here's
37:29and Eagles fans are probably some Eagles fans know that we're talking about some Eagles fans are mad and here's my honest
37:36counter if you're like well they keep winning because winning is the point and that is still the point it's not fantasy
37:42points it's winning the game look at the Chiefs and Eagles who played each other in two Super Bowls and I think
37:49are fair comparisons even the year that Eagles won the Super Bowl through 10 weeks Eagles players and AJ Brown were arguing
37:55and freaking out about what the offense should be and AJ Brown and Hurts were arguing what the offense should be all
38:02that year but look at the Chiefs and Eagles this offseason with Super Bowl caliber rosters spending what an entire offseason looks
38:08like to get the running game going to make it easier for their quarterback and look what Ken Walker and the Chiefs
38:15looked like with an offseason to prepare and all the Eagles talked about was getting Saquon back to be the function of
38:21the offense and it looked terrible and I just they had a long time to come up with something better and more
38:28effective and they just couldn't which is like a big red flag and that was the Chiefs going up against Denver and
38:34Philly going up against the Commanders it's a huge red flag that it couldn't be better and yeah Saquon's saying that week
38:41one's bad okay sorry DK why did I take an eagle dude what the fuck is next year we have to have
38:47a blacklist we have to have a blacklist of teams and like we were so close to doing this no Dolphins no
38:54Dolphins why don't we have Devon HN just make certain teams I don't want to watch is there some sort of like
39:00plug like a black like a you know black mirror some sort of plug-in where you can just like the guys you
39:07just don't even want to consider taking you can like blur them out I have a pitch for this I was going
39:13to do it at the end but I could pitch you guys right now I have a stat I want to create
39:19oh I was going to say that I think my new strategy is going to I'm going to literally have a list
39:26of 30 players and I can only draft them I kind of want to do so I want to move players that
39:32well I'll talk to you guys with a solution for this at the end but DK I want to get to here's
39:39the player that I'm thinking of while we talk about this it's Jaden Reed I don't know why I took him again
39:45this year after being completely frustrated about him last year the same thing that happened last year is happening this year guess
39:52what Jaden Reed the wide receiver 71 this week sorry the wide receiver yeah he was the wide receiver 71 last year
39:58guess what he was this week the wide receiver 75 I don't know why I did this to myself I don't know
40:05why I thought anything would be different he only plays in two in three receiver sets he does not play in two
40:11receiver sets and guess what he doesn't even play in all the three receiver sets he was kind of like he was
40:18in most of them but he was kind of rotating in and out and now the Packers offense just might be a
40:24lot worse than it was last year because their offensive line is an absolute disaster and they can't really run the ball
40:31yeah and they can't really run the ball he had three catches for 20 yards played 57% of the snaps I don't
40:37know why I do this to myself it's like a it's like a weird sort of tick where I'm like oh I
40:44see that name I somehow in my brain recognize that I think he's a good player and therefore I'll take him even
40:50though all the variables point to him being a part-time player and never going to be reliable at all do you guys
40:57ever have this thing where I was talking to Skippy about this the other day there's times where in my life where
41:03I'm like planning travel and I just like book a connection or like a train connection or something and there's no physical
41:10possible way I could actually make that connection and I did it anyway and I looked at it 18 times in the
41:16process of doing it and then I get on the plane and I'm like oh my train leaves an hour before we
41:22land like I don't why did I think we were going to why did I think that was going to work and
41:29then I had to like I literally had this happen or I had to like book a different flight on the flight
41:35because I was like I don't how is that going to work in any world that's how I feel after drafting Jaden
41:42Reed this year I'm like I hated watching this offense I was out on the Packers all last year because the way
41:48they rotate very much like the Broncos and they get rid of a couple receivers and I think something's going to change
41:55with Jaden Reed and it's exactly the same three catches for 20 yards it's all the rotational stuff whenever we try to
42:01assume that playing time is going to significantly change we're usually wrong like it's like the same like Kyron Williams Blake Corum
42:08it's like Blake Corum is not going to be the lead guy on the fucking ramps alright he's just not I don't
42:14think it's not the rotational no it's Jaden I don't think that's it because we the Packers I think it's what we
42:21thought it would be which is Matthew Golden Christian Watson play in two receiver sets and then Jaden Reed is the slot
42:27receiver I think the mistake we made with Green Bay and I was so I kind of I can't believe I didn't
42:34end up saying this in the take purge but I think I decided it was too obvious for the take purge there
42:40are four teams every year where their offensive lines are bad enough that like the running game is irrelevant for fantasy and
42:47there is like an uphill climb to be good and the Packers offensive line's bad and the Packers offensive line just lost
42:53a lot of depth and isn't that good frankly and they couldn't block in this game versus Minnesota and there was bad
43:00coaching I mean they took a field goal off the thing and then didn't get a touchdown which I think Packers fans
43:06are going to be mad about all year and but the offensive line's bad and like I'm realizing the whole God it's
43:13nice royalty free music basically the Josh Jacobs suspension like oh who's in the backfield Marshawn Lloyd Chris Brooks all of them
43:19are bad and they're going to be irrelevant like the Packers are not going to have a running game and Jordan Love
43:26without a running game is going to be tough to watch and that was not that hard to see coming we kind
43:32of talked about it in March and then I guess we just fucking forgot to be lower than everybody else and I
43:38hate myself I hate myself Christian Watson was sick though we were right about that Christian Watson was awesome yeah okay they
43:45looked awesome for like a quarter and a half my maybe my biggest regret after week one is ranking Kyle Pitts and Marvin Harrison Jr.
43:52when I promised myself I wouldn't put him on the list this is just a principle thing we should just refuse to
43:59do it this is perhaps our greatest faux pas this offseason is not a lot is allowing anyone to draft Marvin Harrison Jr.
44:06or Kyle Pitts at the end of last year I vowed that we wouldn't I would not rank them because there is
44:12no world I want them on my team because this is about fun and having enjoyment in your life and Kyle Pitts and Marvin Harrison Jr.
44:20are fun and energy vampires because they steal my joy here's the things if you're thinking okay well what if they were
44:26great values what if you got them for a dollar you got them in the 13th round it doesn't matter because that's
44:33the Jaden Reed argument because once they're on your roster it doesn't say next to them what round you you drafted them
44:39and they're just sitting there and they're projected 11 points and you're like well I guess I'm going to start this guy
44:46and they kill you I'm going to leave with my high school friends sorry real quick Craig said he's only going to
44:52rank 30 players maybe we just rank 30 players next year I'm just yeah just take one of these take one of
44:59these sell your old team with one of these guys 35 players and I'm like I can only select people on this
45:05list I think we would do better I swear to god like I just maybe that should be the new turnkey it's
45:11just like can this guy be on your team I don't care if Jalen Waddell's going for $15 cheaper than he should
45:18and then somebody else takes him and everybody goes wow that's great value I don't care and also to be clear first
45:24of all I didn't say Kyle Pitts and Marvin Harrison Jr.
45:28combined have one catch for 33 yards combined keep in mind Kendrick Bourne who just showed up in Arizona at 31 years
45:34old just cranked out I made the mistake this year I'm in too many leagues now so good I made the mistake
45:41of I ended up with Marvin Harrison Jr. in a league because he fell and fell and fell did you start him?
45:47and I was like what if he and I took him and I'm like now I'm fucked I don't want to play
45:54him because I hate him did you play him in week one?
45:57no but that's the point I didn't want to play him because I hate him and he sucked and I'm like great
46:04I can't cut him I don't want this can't trade him I'm so I opened the team and I'm upset he exists
46:10there and it's like there's no world he would have been good enough to justify how upset I am because he's if
46:16he's bad and like that is the thing we forget in August and I just I just it's you know as a
46:23former Ringer colleague of ours once said scouting's not about finding players it's about eliminating players like we need to just take
46:29guys off our board like the real teams do it it's deduction yeah real teams take players off their board we should
46:36do it it's like we really need to promote and teach like reaching for Parker Washington is fine taking Marvin Harrison Jr.
46:42at a discount not fine it's all guys yes exactly we should talk like that all the time too yeah not fine
46:49not fine because for I would say for half of my drafts like in the Ringer League I was like I'm reaching
46:55for Luther Burden because I want him I'm reaching for Parker Washington because I want him and then in other instances it's
47:02like well Jalen Waddle is sitting there at a reasonable price so I guess I'll get him that's the opposite of how
47:08I should be thinking you should only do it the former reach because you want don't take because he's cheap the real
47:15answer is that when the the joy of reaching for Luther Burden and being right way outweighs the disappointment of like reaching
47:21for Luther Burden being wrong and similarly the joy of taking Marvin Harrison and being right sucks it's great DK or Craig
47:28wait Craig who's your next instant regret we're gonna we're gonna go all the way back to last Wednesday but I just
47:34drafting AJ Brown it's just when I when I didn't believe in him last year and I don't I don't know why
47:41why do I have Jalen Waddle and AJ Brown on my teams this year like why you guys didn't listen to me
47:47on the AJ Brown thing gotta say like and I I know it's like yeah well he looked good on that slant
47:54I agree he did but you know what he got hurt and now he's on IR and now they're like it's probably
48:00actually gonna be like six weeks which means really it's gonna be like eight weeks so he's just out half the year
48:07and I'm like I don't know why I did this last year I thought he was bad and hurt and uninterested in
48:13playing football and he changed teams and Bill Simmons is talking about how he's Randy Moss and I bought in and I'm
48:20an idiot and I shouldn't have done it I played scared I didn't want to miss out I didn't want to miss
48:26out the FOMO got you yeah it did it did like a fool I hit you with all the body bliss you
48:32did and I came and Bill had the haymaker yeah I I'm not gonna lie can I tell you guys I've been
48:39meaning to talk about this obviously I talked about A.G.
48:42Brown up a lot this season a lot of people listening probably have A.G.
48:46Brown because they told you to take him it actually I don't know if I could sleep at night if he hadn't
48:52had those two good plays because if he had just kind of gotten hurt immediately and then the idea that he even
48:59looked good at all was in question like thank God he did have two moments where like man he might change this
49:05offense then he got hurt I actually think it would materially change my day-to-day existence sometimes I like I just like can't
49:12even believe football as a sport exists because I'm like yeah it's like A.G.
49:16Brown is so talented and good he caught a couple and then it's just like a guy just kind of fell on
49:22his leg and it's like well eight weeks see you later I'm like I can't believe this is real Dominique Foxworth put
49:29it well this week where he was like there's not many jobs in America where you got a group of 50 co-workers
49:35and they're like yeah man we're not all gonna make it to the end of the day right like we're like we're
49:42just not gonna make it like it is crazy any given play like Vlad McConkie takes a hit and you're like well
49:48he's holding his ribs see in a month and it's just brutal it's so brutal just I the injury thing I you
49:55know I feel like the IR spot in fantasy no one's figured it out yet because it's like it's kind of really
50:01nice it used to be a quirk and now I think you can put players out and more leagues on IR if
50:08you're if they're just out right instead of on IR yeah and I think you guys have more leagues like that and
50:14part of me is like fuck it just give me like 10 spots like I just I don't know the right 10
50:21IR spots I don't know but I just the injury thing just breaks my heart but I have a question regarding the
50:27Patriots real quick are we are we worried about the Patriots offense after week one I know they played the Seahawks but
50:34like Drake May uh Ramondre versus Travion I guess Ramondre had a pretty good game Travion uh you know Romeo Dobbs was
50:40very bad in that one I don't know like I don't think there is Super Bowl contender against the defense as good
50:47as Seattle's because they it's shocking how little they change their offense with so much time yeah but their coaching is still
50:53so good that I think that they will be an above average team maybe make the playoffs I do think it's probably
51:00a year from hell for them overall like I just think they're not I frankly I think they're incredibly well coached but
51:06they're not that talented of a roster is the truth they have a few great Drake May is great Christian Gonzalez is
51:13great like but the I mean Morgan Moses is the right tackle he's been around forever I will say they played Seattle
51:19who's awesome I think their offensive line is better I think their wide receivers are better and it's once again Drake May
51:26in the same system year two in the system so I would like to believe that it's not going to be a
51:32mess I'm not there are some teams I'm like they will not make the NFC championship game I would not I would
51:38not say that the Patriots in the AFC championship game like there's some teams like that's not a serious team the Patriots
51:45the coaching's high level enough but a tough year though DK anyone else just sitting in your craw yeah this one's like
51:51this one's not as emotional as some of the other ones but it's just more like a like a head slapper I'm
51:58like idiot why didn't I do this because we talked about this guy but not taking the Isaiah likely at the end
52:04of every single draft feels like a stupid move none of us I feel like all of us collectively decided we were
52:11like oh yeah the best late round tight end we're like staring at guys like Dallas Goddard and like it's got you
52:17know Jake Ferguson's and all these people Chica Conquo and we're like it's got to be Isaiah likely we all we all
52:24turned key like that's most upside got to be him none of us took him I know I don't understand he goes
52:30out and looks amazing eight catches on eight targets two touchdowns now we've done we've seen this in the past where he
52:37had an incredible week one and then totally fell off but I think this is a very different situation I think he
52:43is a big part of their offense he's de facto number two in their offense which you know obviously is really valuable
52:50in fantasy so and I think he's a really good player I just don't know why just didn't do it I was
52:56just like one of those things where I'm like again why did I not do that I was sitting on the he
53:03was sitting there in the draft room right in front of my face so many times and I have him in exactly
53:09zero redraft we had the whole conversation where the Giants receiver room is just an old version of the Miami receiver room
53:16but with Malik neighbors on top and it's like under the hood of the injured Malik neighbors where John Harbaugh kind of
53:22like politely bullied him into playing the Giants it's Malachi Fields it's a fourth round who's a third round rookie kind of
53:29like Caleb Douglas playing it's Darnell Mooney who is just you know like fourth receiver at this point and like not a
53:35versatile and then Odell Beckham made the goddamn roster after basically being out of the NFL he made the team like that
53:41those are the Giants four they carried four receivers they're interviewing Odell before the first game of the year like that's the
53:48state of the receiving Giants are the only Sunday night football intro I could ever remember where the intro lineup was 22
53:54personnel it was a fullback a running back two tight ends and one receiver on the Sunday night football intro that like
54:01that's the Giants receiver room and we didn't yeah I don't know how he did Isaiah he was the number one tight
54:07end in fantasy this week I think I do have a whole I do have a whole theory on this but I
54:14just the Giants when you go full back running back to tight ends you're going such heavy personnel that like in theory
54:20you could match that with four linebackers well the Cowboys don't have four linebackers you know what I mean so they bullied
54:27him off the field so I do think tight ends are going to carve up Dallas this year but likely it's going
54:33to be good for New York whenever man oh he looks awesome he's great he's only 26 years old fifth year the
54:40man he actually checked a lot of boxes for like things that breakout tight ends usually have like their their characteristics heading
54:46into a season he like checked every box we need to be comfortable reversing players sometimes I the thing that actually bothers
54:53me is we were with market but we talked about all these underlying things he should have been flipped Harold Fannin I
54:59can't believe we ranked Harold Fannin have Isaiah likely we should it's like Drake May last year where we were the highest
55:06on Drake May of anybody and we're like the hype is right and it's not actually priced in still and we're like
55:12we know Deshaun Watson's bad all the spreadsheets have no idea that Deshaun Watson is the yips like it's worse than the
55:19out the 10,000 simulations can even imagine like likely needs to be where Fannin is and Fannin needs to be like way
55:25way outside the top hundred right and I can't believe we didn't fucking do it oh at least you can enjoy at
55:32least you can enjoy him on your real team Heifetz that was sick to just beat the Cowboys and have them suck
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56:23I had instant regret watching Ashton Gentey after not taking him because of this fake ass ankle injury and he's totally fine
56:30and looks like the best running back in the league I believed in this guy all offseason thought he was awesome as
56:36a player didn't pay attention to any of the shit on analytics that says he was bad last year I believed in
56:43the coach I believed in the scheme I believed in the offensive line upgrades and I didn't touch him with a 10
56:49foot pole in drafts this year because he hurt his ankle a month before the season and I feel like a fool
56:56Craig I after the whole ankle injury scare thing I was in a draft and I accidentally auto picked on one of
57:02my thing I was like camping or biking I can't remember what was happening and I like missed the window it was
57:09like a two-hour clock or something slow draft and I came back and I had drafted him in the second round and
57:15I was like oh fuck like oh that's such bad value so risky or whatever and then I just watch him week
57:22one I'm like hell yeah this is the best this is the best feeling ever auto draft maybe is the best thing
57:28that's ever happened to you it's it's actually like I don't know why we do this sometimes I we got points in
57:35week one we got an email from someone named Eric Ebone breakfast was leftover Sundays door dash last night from friendlies holy
57:41shit Eric geez that's wild wait what is it a leftover sundae from friendlies for breakfast like an ice cream sundae I
57:48yeah it's spelled with an e wow that's sick that's awesome I've never wow uh Eric says I have a dilemma my
57:54wife's auto drafted team doubled my team score in our matchup breakfast what's wild I said this guy's married and he's eating
58:00that for breakfast I know Kevin McAllister breakfast he's married he Eric literally said my wife auto drafted her team and doubled
58:07my score this week she is now offering to manage my other teams for me yeah how do I respond I'm not
58:13gonna lie so this is this is hilarious the auto draft to the auto draft point I am in a league with
58:20Skippy's family and there's like four people in the league that quite literally never look at their rosters we've been in this
58:26league for over 10 years I've never once won it and I'm like this is the most embarrassing thing I'm a freaking
58:33professional fantasy football person I've never even beaten the four people that don't even look at their rosters the entire year I
58:39I had to auto draft that one this one this year because I think we were doing our live show that literally
58:46that night what is and my team is fucking stacked we I kicked ass week one I think I'm gonna win it
58:52this year is there an equivalent where like the theoretical experts in an industry have no edge on normal people like is
58:59there another type of sector like that oh yeah that's a good question you know we're like email us at ringer fantasy
59:05football gmail.com I do have a couple in mind but like where an auto drafting team theoretically has the same chances of
59:12you as winning at winning yeah I want to know that okay can I mean you know what it is it's investing
59:18in the stock market like just invest in an et just like an s&p 500 you're gonna do better than like the
59:25so-called x the s&p is just auto drafting more or less yeah it's the wisdom it's the wisdom of crowds it's just
59:31dollar cost average just put it in s&p right so yeah over a long period that I simply is just auto drafting
59:38is good I do have a thought I want to pitch you guys in this and I think we should actually build
59:44it into our rankings next year I want to call it vibe it's value including basic emotions okay okay I like I
59:51like the acronym already basic things like do I hate this player do I hate watching this team do I want to
59:57watch this person play football Josh Allen vibe it's like his correct ranking is 28 the vibe of yeah basic emotions of
60:03when Josh Allen scores 38 points I feel like I have two cocks he should be 16th yeah and Marvin Harrison's ranking
60:10unadjusted is like 75th but when I watch him get one catch for me I want to die so he's gonna be
60:16140th and like we actually should fucking include that because that's the lived experience of playing this stupid game I like it
60:23I like it yeah let's do it vibe is a very like modern name for an acronym it feels like it sounds
60:29like a CBD drink but I do like it what is the what is it value including basic emotions okay it's good
60:36we can work with that I agree we should have a secondary ranking yeah you're like if you if you want to
60:42like come in third use her rankings if you want to have fun yeah and maybe still come in third use the
60:49vibe we'll just remove all the players that'll potentially piss you off yeah if you want to like actually have fun watching
60:55football this season we'll we'll give you different rankings I think that's what we should fucking do oh okay moving on the
61:02last thing I have to did you guys see that Adam Schefter posted that the when Bo Nix broke his ankle before
61:08the AFC championship yeah Drew Brees yes and then blew my mind and and not only that so then Drew Brees then
61:15reached out to like the Hall of Fame to make sure that if he played in this game that it wouldn't delay
61:21his ability to get into the Hall of Fame and they said no it's fine so then he went to a field
61:28and practiced and said that his shoulder hurt too much and he had no velocity throwing like 15 yards so he eventually
61:34said no he's 47 years old I can't believe it got that far honestly yeah yeah yeah I just I that makes
61:41me think a lot less of Jarrett's did him right yeah he was what's his name Peyton was like talking and stood
61:47him up so much I'm like you really went and tried to get a 47 year old it's almost like Sean Peyton
61:54is not a reliable narrator it's almost like he doesn't tell the truth interesting do you think he's what he probably what
62:00we probably didn't know about Sean Payton telling his wife to draft Jalen Waddle is that Sean Payton's probably also in that
62:07fantasy league and is sandbagging his own wife and then he probably drafted Pat Bryant yeah that's a good point all right
62:13update on the ringer fantasy football league yeah so I would like to start by saying that how are things going good
62:19everything good yeah how'd you do Craig everything good in that league Bangkok Craig is in the trenches you are 0 and
62:261 you're last in the league in points Bangkok Craig is down in the muck right now clawing his way out I
62:32will rise don't you worry I'm not worried I'm not worried at all you look a little worried now this is like
62:39we're right back to last year Heifetz and I are in first and second I think this literally I got those first
62:45no one talks about the fantasy regular season Deacon I ran the table we were just yeah we were the number one
62:52and two yeah look we had a couple bumps and bruises along the way it made a bad start some tough matchups
62:58for the squad Drake may against Seattle we'll be all right um but yeah I just you know I wanted to even
63:05things out I didn't want everybody to get super mad and it's like whoa all three of the Danies and Craig are
63:11top three in the league it's cheating so you're welcome I will say real quick Heifetz is he had the second highest
63:18or what I don't know what score you got you didn't get the second highest score but you're in second now how
63:24many points did Bryce Young get you after all that effort thanks for asking DK he was the third best quarterback in
63:31fantasy football remarkable after you literally everyone block him out of yeah to fuck me over and take how many quarterbacks were
63:37taken between like the ninth and the tenth and eleventh rounds combined like 18 yeah yeah I took all you guys two
63:44of them uh I got Bryce Young and I beat everyone except Josh and Caleb what like this is another per this
63:50is this is a perfect example of fantasy football we literally tried to steal 27 quarterbacks from you and you were like
63:57fine I'll just take whichever one's left and you were second you were grudgingly I took Bryce Young yeah I he beat
64:03every quarterback except Josh Allen and Caleb Williams like your team Jalen wall you had Jalen Waddle on your lineup your defense
64:10got you one point and you're still second in the league in points because you're Bryce Young goddamn right can I can
64:16I point out a quick fact here we've been revel in it for a minute I scored 183 points the next closest
64:22team Heifetz scored 129 yeah yeah yeah nobody yeah yeah I'm it turns out taking Derek getting 30 plus points from Derek
64:29Henry Kenneth Walker and DeAndre Swift feels it feels really good Derek Henry is an example of what we're supposed to do
64:35which is decide on something at the end of the season and just not fucking change our minds which was Derek Henry
64:42still got it don't let anyone like build the aging into like his I took him in the first round unnamed unnamed
64:48sites had him 30th and I'm like I I just that that's yeah I got an F for my draft by the
64:55way hundred 183 points wait I have a question how did um Bill and Dave took um kickers in the eighth round
65:01how'd they do Dave Chang and Bill just taking Cam Little and Aubrey in round eight how'd they do Bill's in 10th
65:08I believe Dave is in 11th oh yeah dead last with Craig okay well he built by 80.
65:13Hi but you're closer to last in points than you are first so settle down I just am at it you two
65:20for not backing me up when they were taking kickers and I was the only one who's like that's a really stupid
65:26idea and then you guys you guys weren't there with me I'm not gonna lie that's all right we kind of threw
65:33you to the wolves a little bit on in the early in the early part of the draft as well I'm like
65:39in a dark alley screaming at Dave Chang about a kicker he's like well they have a lot of points and I
65:45turn around and I'm like I'm the only one I'm like okay I'm like I added Cairo Santos 24 hours before week
65:52one and he got me 12 points if your opponents are making mistakes don't interrupt him all right Sun Tzu yeah well
65:58he already did it well then Bill did it right after that yeah we were hoping for a run on him sure
66:05okay it's time for an important segment it's time for fantasy court ooh definitely don't tell anyone about this thing that you're
66:11doing I don't really want to be handcuffed the definition of an object is a material thing that can be seen and
66:18touched the music is so dramatic it's one of these days we're gonna add the Craig saying night to me is when
66:24it's dark to me night me me is when it's dark that's a good point like how can you dispute that spot
66:31the life fantasy court this one's from Rachel Rachel our bone Rachel's the plaintiff breakfast is a banana with peanut butter cherry
66:37chia seed yogurt and a coffee with pumpkin pie creamer wow okay sounds good Rachel says I am one of the seven
66:44it's a fantasy court case all hail Rachel says I am in a league with my fiance and this week I played
66:50the commissioner of the league in our matchup and the commissioner is officiating our wedding later this year okay we have a
66:57ton of weird rules in this league including defensive individual defensive players so linebackers and stuff yeah and they get bonus points
67:03and apparently there's now points for punt and kick returns and a kick return yard is a tenth of a point so
67:10kick return yards like a rushing yard okay so the returners are worth a lot yeah so a return from the one
67:16to the 15 yard line which is a bad return you did a bad job you shouldn't have done one and a
67:23half points yeah so Rachel saying this really juices players like Rashid Shaheed who are good returners yeah so the league voted
67:29all these scoring changes via what seems like a scatter shot survey in the league chat Rachel says probably 10 surveys with
67:36like three to four options were all posted within like an hour or two I can't even keep up with my like
67:42really important work email having to keep up with a bunch of I'm telling you if you are the commissioner of a
67:49league it should be a full fledged dictatorship it should be an authoritarian regime no that is on anything no votes it's
67:55never it never works just fucking why I love these I it is why I love these because it is the smallest
68:01version of a government and it really is smallest version of government and I'm learning like it don't work yeah we tried
68:08democracy now on the way else yeah it had a good run so Rachel writes our commissioner did not adjust the league
68:14settings to reflect return rule okay so now it's week one and the commissioner who again is Rachel's wedding officiant are playing
68:21each other Rachel versus her commissioner slash wedding officiant and the commissioner officiant starts Rashid Shahid who is one catch for four
68:27yards and gets not like you know point four yards then the game ends and the commissioner realizes he did not add
68:34the kick return rule and changes the league settings which results in Rashid Shahid getting eight more points for his 80 kick
68:40return yards oh do we think this rule should be included in week one since he didn't even add the rule and
68:47only changed it when he noticed his player did not get enough how should there be an issue was that the difference
68:53between a win and a loss I followed up with Rachel to see if the outcome changed but I kind of don't
69:00think that should change the answer okay I have an immediate thought do you guys yeah look I think so the way
69:06I see it is the commissioner himself forgot to change the rule you got to live with that buddy sorry you're gonna
69:13you can change it for week two if if the commissioner were not involved in this matchup maybe you could argue to
69:19retroactively change the points and put it back in place if everybody voted on it but the commissioner himself switching it so
69:26that he can get more points and potentially win it's like buddy you're you forgot it's on you you got to live
69:32with your mistake yeah for one week you can change it next week that's how I feel I agree with that completely
69:39I will the I worry that like he messed up someone else though like did he mess up anyone else in this
69:45league and affect material outcomes of games because if he did that makes me a little more worried but I agree with
69:52Craig that said like if he's the only one affected that he has to change it for everyone but him yes you
69:58want to know about the communication manually adjust their scores yeah yeah except it's one of those if there was a draft
70:04and before the draft it was like hey everyone reminder we're doing this thing and everyone agreed that kind of is one
70:11thing however if it was just kind of like yeah I sent 10 polls four of the 12 people voted and three
70:17of the four of the 12 people voted to like do kick return yards so we're doing kick return yards that's kind
70:24of crazy and also never mind the fact that kick return yards I think they're kind of dumb especially now how it
70:30works like I involve making them equal I think not ideal I think ultimately it's his responsibility to get the rules set
70:37correctly before the season starts and if he if it would have benefited him that is shady you make a good point
70:43to going forward it for going into week two I agree but DK makes a good point that like there's there was
70:50probably one game in their league where some some guy should have won because of this kick return rule had it been
70:56correctly instituted and it wasn't is there any world they should just not do this rule if it was not communicating if
71:03it was if it was just the poll I'm kind of like well no because the flip side is that probably affected
71:09how you drafted people well that's the flip side is here's the thing let's say people didn't know and maybe it wasn't
71:16communicated because usually you want to know your rules but if you check the settings and it's not there if you're auto
71:22drafting and the site you're using is not accounting for kick return yards that completely changes the draft list so if people
71:29if it wasn't communicated well I think there's one thing that's clear though it's they maybe they need a new officiant for
71:35the wedding I mean can you trust him is he gonna even show up with a speech we don't know I think
71:42that's the choice I think it's like option a is you gonna have the light the marriage license for the right state
71:48who knows yeah I think kick return yards or officiate the wedding and they they can pick I think if he's a
71:55good commissioner and he wants to earn the respect of the league he should apply the kick return statistics to every team
72:01in the league but his own from week one retroactively he loses the points that week alone and then he changes the
72:07rules permanently for week two and beyond I actually agree with that he's a benevolent dictator that's what he would think that
72:14would be a good that would look good I uh I actually completely agree with that okay I'm glad we're on the
72:20same page with that so do you think he officiates the wedding yeah yeah if he does it that way for sure
72:27absolutely okay good otherwise though all right can I read you guys an email here sure email this one's from Elliot Elliot
72:33writes breakfast was wow I love this breakfast thing man yeah six breakfast sausages three eggs two pieces of toast half a
72:40banana decaf coffee he's gotta be lifting he's getting ready for a marathon that's gotta be a lift right six sausages yeah
72:46that's a lot that guy's starting his day with like 75 grams of protein fueling up so Elliot right so the last
72:53episode we did the band we're doing Craig what month is it if the 80s were nuts month well well let me
72:59tell you about the 80s how nuts the 80s were okay our last band was scorpion yeah scorpions or scorpion scorpion wait
73:06the scorpions the scorpions I don't even know what was it here I got scorpions scorpions what was plural a German a
73:12German band know the drop the so Elliot writes I thought you'd find it interesting that your latest 80s banger came from
73:19a band the scorpions who may have had a song written by the CIA to help end the Cold War really I'm
73:25listening yeah keep going so essentially the scorpion song the winds of change may have maybe been written by the CIA as
73:32a covert mission to get into Russia during the Cold War they're a German man and there is an eight-part podcast series
73:38about it from I get Patrick Keefe who apparently wrote a book called say nothing which then they made a TV series
73:45about apparently Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald to talk about the show I read the book and watch the series it's great
73:51wow you watch the show read the book didn't bring this up when we talked about scorpions for five minutes that they
73:58were a CIA psyop maybe well sorry the book say and say nothing oh yeah sorry that one's about the troubles right
74:04right that one's not about this sorry sorry you're right yes that one's about the troubles so that guy who wrote that
74:11book and TV show Patrick Radden Keefe yes did a pod an eight-part podcast that is a I can't prove it but
74:17apparently well researched that that song was written by the CIA winds of change and the score and it was like a
74:23psyop to get into right take me to the magic of the moment on a glory night so it's a good song
74:30is that that's kind of what I crazy is so is there like one really creative guy in the CIA like how
74:36do you think they figured that out they're like who who can write a song who wants the Don Draper meme and
74:43it's like hair bands you know what song this that that comment reminds me so much of there was a song by
74:49sting I think it was that and it was like I hope the Russians love their children too or something like that
74:56it was like a very cold war song about hoping song is called Russians yeah and I very vividly remember that um
75:02being like a thing and listening to it and being like scared I'm like this is what wait who's gonna bomb us
75:09I you know what I was gonna know I want an email from our like older listeners I want to email reminding
75:15us like about the cold war because I had a professor once in college be like you guys don't get it we
75:22didn't know anything about what was going on over there he's like we didn't know what cars they drove we don't have
75:28clothes they wore we didn't know what they were doing we had never seen any like he was like you have no
75:35idea how little we knew at the time yeah and I don't think about that but that is kind of crazy to
75:41think about well during the cold I mean still I imagine still but during the cold war is like the American embassy
75:48there like they the Russian KGB would follow literally everyone all around a hundred percent of the time like if you're if
75:54you're in Russia you you have someone following you around the entire time all right Soviet Union I guess but yeah well
76:01I'm surprised why were we allowed to even have an American embassy there for diplomatic communication and things like that yes it
76:07was probably in that like getting assigned to the Moscow yes uh whatever did like uh what's it called bureau yeah but
76:14no but what's it called the embassy in Moscow was like going getting called up to the big leagues like you're going
76:20to the fucking show now like going to Moscow it was even before Ukraine even before the Ukraine invasion the people I
76:26know in DC I had multiple people across different levels of experience tell me that they would rather get deployed to like
76:33Baghdad or Afghanistan than in Moscow like well everything is there yeah yeah anyway but anyway yeah but that's kind of crazy
76:39that is wild so wait can you sorry can you re-explain the story the CIA wrote this song apparently as like I
76:46don't I can't prove it but there's this podcast by a very respected author that investigates that the scorpion song wins a
76:52change was written by the CIA and I don't know to the extent to which but that basically it was like that
76:59was they wanted to get into Russia with music so but I wanted to give them like they wanted to give it's
77:05like it's like seven nation army but for like you know they wanted to get behind the they wanted to get behind
77:12the iron curtain because this is a German band so you're saying yeah but I think they wrote a song that Russia
77:18would like so much that the scorpions would then play in Russia and they could sneak in with them like what do
77:25you mean I don't know but the wall fell down man so who knows I don't know it was I don't know
77:31maybe I don't know what happened man okay but I just found out about this too so here so this what I'm
77:38seeing is basically the the the idea is the CIA wrote it as Cold War propaganda to like um be like a
77:44sign of peace and at the end of communism and like basically be like pro-west propaganda so it was not a literal
77:51plan to like in like invade Russia it was more of a they wanted the song to incite change I don't know
77:57they wanted to incite change and help topple the Soviet Union yes it came out like right it came out like right
78:04after the the Berlin Wall fell got it it's also like it says on Wikipedia it says again I guess there's a
78:10whole eight-part podcast we listen to also this guy this author is like a staff writer at the New Yorker so I
78:17think it is Patrick Raden Keefe is like he's one he's he's on a heater right now he's done some really good
78:23books the thing I'm thinking about is apparently this started as a rumor at the CIA like internally and I keep thinking
78:30about Zero Dark Thirty where like they made a whole movie about like how we got Osama bin Laden and like that
78:36whole story was kind of a cover story to make up to protect the person that actually gave them the info on
78:42Osama bin Laden like the whole thing with the courier and everything it was all made up was it yeah like like
78:49that that is not what happened so I'm kind of like I don't know maybe they made the song interesting yeah it
78:55is very fascinating also that's a great song by the way wins a change yeah yeah the CIA also wrote where's the
79:02love by the black-eyed peas to end the war in Iraq but it did exactly okay Craig tell us about you went
79:08to the Emmys last night tell us about going to the Emmys um it was the Emmys are really fun the Emmys
79:15are like a bigger more chaotic Oscars there's like way more people it's in downtown LA not in Hollywood it's in a
79:21much bigger venue um actually the Oscars are moving into the Emmys venue in two years so the Oscars are going to
79:28be where the Emmys are two years from now much bigger venue but it's much so you're the producer of the town
79:34with Matthew Bellany so you're not like buying a ticket like you're actually going and in his suit and everything yeah you
79:41can't buy a ticket to the Emmys you have to get invited to the Emmys I just realized I didn't really set
79:47that up for you sure sure sure but yes I'm Matt is gracious enough to uh bring me as his plus one
79:54thank god his wife doesn't like going to award shows because otherwise I'd be screwed but um yeah it's cool the Emmys
80:00are just like way more accessible because everyone's kind of just in one area Oscars are like kind of separated by floor
80:07and if you don't have the right pass you kind of can't get to the right floor Emmys it's like anybody if
80:13Mark Ruffalo or Nicole Kidman wants to go get a drink at the bar like it'll be the same bar you're at
80:20that's sweet um so who'd you rub elbows with yeah who's in line at the bar for you well well I the
80:26cooler part is I went to the HBO after party and there was a lot of fun HBO celebs from HBO shows
80:33like I saw Steve Carell I saw Tim Robinson who's in the chair company which is a show I love at HBO
80:39Stephen Colbert was there um I got stabbed by an Emmy in the hand accidentally and I bled I drew blood from
80:45an Emmy yeah like what is the is it like a wing or what I forget how yeah there's like these pointy
80:52prongs at the end of the an Emmy award and it's literally a guy was going down the stairs and I was
80:58going up the stairs and it he accidentally stabbed me in between my ring finger my middle finger and I drew blood
81:05it's on the town Instagram stabbed you you yeah you got stabbed at the at the Emmys by I got stabbed by
81:11an Emmy the wings of the person on the Emmy or whatever that is and then and then what happened did did
81:18Gary Oldman apologize to you or what happened I wish I knew who it was because I'm gonna I'm gonna keep looking
81:24for them but it was cool uh HBO did a great job it was like really good food it was like at
81:31this kind of fun social club place and they were just like we had like howlin raised chicken and waffles there was
81:37like Henry's secret ice cream which is like this new ice cream spot in LA they did a very good job I
81:44was I was kind of eating my fill I didn't have dinner so I was kind of just going from station to
81:50station Matt and I just kind of eat a lot when we go to these parties yeah so yeah that sounds awesome
81:57what uh who was the best dressed who was the best dressed uh I think it hates asking being asked questions and
82:03then I love him asking just like the sorry who's the best dress well Meg Stalter who's in show hacks was literally
82:10dressed as an Emmy she painted her body gold I'm looking so I'm gonna give it to her really yeah who's that
82:16Meg Stalter oh wow yeah she literally dressed as the Emmy that's funny I thought like the in memoriam really hit the
82:23in memoriam with uh uh Catholic uh Catherine O'Hara really hit yeah I have it's your girl Mariska Hargitay she crushed I
82:29thought she was she was off dude the opening bit right yeah the opening bit with uh Jalen Brunson and she was
82:36like you have no idea what it's about sorry like I have to do this all my own Jalen I don't have
82:42anyone to tip it in for me it was really good they did a Dolly Parton tribute that was good um and
82:48Widow's Bay was like the big winner Widow's Bay fucking cleaned up they won 14 Emmys dude what about Mulaney coming I
82:55forget what award Mulaney did like best actor in a drama and he just had like a like a five minute stand-up
83:01bit he did yeah you know what I didn't realize it was hilarious it absolutely it was like easily the funniest part
83:08of the night he's just the best dude he's so I guarantee you he was like he told the Emmys producers he's
83:14like I'm just give me five minutes I'm not telling you what I'm saying I'm just gonna go out I'll do it
83:21don't worry and he did this whole bit about like how men have been slighted in television for years and how they
83:27deserve a chance and how uh the types of roles that men play he had a DJ he was like the once
83:34he's like the great DJ Khaled once said that real men and they bleeped that out on NBC yes they bleeped it
83:40on TV I didn't realize you couldn't say that can you say that on Netflix are we gonna bleep that on Netflix
83:47I don't know um but it was really fun it's always uh it's always a treat you know and a privilege to
83:53be able to go to these things it was cool trying to think if I uh my show slow horses won for
84:00best directing yeah direction yeah jack and I have to watch slow horses I know you love it DK but can we
84:06just we got off the Craig being stabbed in the hand too quick what did you you're bleeding at the Emmys what
84:13what do you would now what is it the after party at the Emmys I was bleeding oh so you got you
84:19got stabbed by an Emmy at the HBO after party that's yeah because there's no there's no if you're at the Emmys
84:26no one's running around with Emmys just yet I guess after they win but at the after party everyone like I saw
84:32Noah Wiley was holding two Emmys from the pit and he's like holding them just kind of walking around holding his tequila
84:39and two Emmys so they're really heavy I know I was gonna say oh yeah I forgot yeah the pit won everything
84:45and so everyone's just what are people so when people put their Emmys down are people like losing their Emmys and shit
84:52like well I think you you know you got a team around you you know you hand it to your assistant or
84:58something somebody on your team can hold your an Emmy holder so what are you doing when you're bleeding now at the
85:04HBO after party you know I just poured a martini on it to kind of sterilize it nice and then there was
85:11a martini fountain there was like a martini ice sculpture bar inside of a fountain and you could like build a martini
85:17from an ice sculpture it was they go hard at these things and then Matt was like dude this is nothing 20
85:24years ago this stuff was like 10 times as crazy the money that they used to spend on parties in Hollywood back
85:30in the day they used to host premieres on the Santa Monica pier they would close down the pier for like spider-man
85:37and it would be like the entire thing was just for this movie premiere now it's like they shut down half a
85:43street you know you guys ever feel like we missed an era ever we're about to do 80s month continued so yes
85:50yeah good point all right thank you DK thank you Craig thank you Cam thank you Austin thank you Nikhil thank you
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86:03us complaints whatever I if you have other players you instantly regret um then I'm sorry for telling you to draft AJ
86:09Brown he did look good for those two plays thank you Lord Lord Lord 80s month I can take this I can
86:16take this one if you like Craig you just got last one did I okay then you take it because you hit
86:22us with scorpions oh that's right you take it you take it absolute banger this is coming from a man who kind
86:29of I don't want to say this man's ugly because that's rude but I did have I did have a take that
86:35like we need more ugly musicians again because they made better music and so I'm not going to say that this guy's
86:42ugly but he doesn't look like a pop star he doesn't look like a major musician he's not hot right um I'm
86:48going to go with in the air tonight by Phil motherfucking Collins oh my god Collins 1981 he looks like an accountant
86:55and he's on stage look at this video I just sent you he is we have the same Instagram this came up
87:01with my algorithm he's wearing like a crisp button-down shirt and a headset like he's literally an IT guy it looks like
87:07he's about to give a TED talk about like some computer chip or something yeah he looks like he's like number six
87:14at Amazon and he and this is what he wore to perform he's really sweaty from the 90s he like he wore
87:20this to perform it looks like he was at a dinner with friends and they're like Phil you know you're on right
87:27he's like oh crap like he put this on on purpose this is just what he wore and he just goes and
87:33absolutely brings down the house within the air tonight I love it's like so iconic you know what this reminds me Phil
87:40Collins reminds me so much of that line from uh from Austin Powers where she's like in the 70s you could be
87:46a sex symbol and have bad teeth like in the 80s you could be ugly and be a sex symbol you know
87:53what they didn't care back then what's different about now because honestly this probably has to do with how impatient we are
87:59because of modern technology and social media and all that crap but like dude back in the day in the air tonight
88:06takes a long time to get going like it is forever you real there's an entire old town road before anything cool
88:12happens I mean songs like um money for nothing by dire straits or like four play long time by Boston it literally
88:19has four playing the title but like it takes like two minutes before like the song gets going but by the time
88:25you get there where it pays off when you wait yeah the payoff is twice as good so it's just a shendo
88:32song we have a whole playlist people were willing to wait for the good things back then man this this video from
88:38that concert man dude he just had it sweet he looks like Steve Ballmer out there like on stage with Bill Gates
88:45like he looks like he could be one of them doesn't he get behind the drums and like he does the whole
88:51like thing and and sings it well because it's why he's wearing the headset oh yeah yeah it's not because it's it's
88:58not because it's cool no he looks like he's playing halo on his break yeah that's he's like answering like a service
89:04call in the middle of the concert it's like a lunch break lunch break playing he's like the lamest streamer of all
89:11time I love it it's the best people were more comfortable back then just being themselves should we should we do it
89:17should we get those headsets for an episode dude he's in like slacks and a belt like I don't what he's in
89:23front of like a hundred thousand people it's great he looked like he was like at work he does so good I
89:30mean he was technically at work he's just walking around he looks like Chris Nolan on set like it's unbelievable this is
89:36like legitimately how my dad dressed he does it's crazy it's so good uh like pleated slacks what are the what are
89:43like the really generic dress shoes called I don't even know what those are called oxfords sure he's he's got like a
89:49severe widow's peak like it doesn't care he's balding he's like whatever you know what though he's he rolled up his sleeves
89:56yeah so he's he's a little you know he's a little loose casual yeah right that's that's his party outfit took his
90:02tie off it's awesome 120 000 people are at this show and they are loving it man 80s were different they were
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