0:00The NFL regular season is right around the corner and some people would tell you that means Dynasty season is over, but
0:07that couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, with there being some time in between games, some might call it the
0:13last chance you have to go on a spending spree for your Dynasty teams.
0:17We have one of our favorites, fan of the show, friend of the show, Rich Rebar joining us today.
0:23We are picking his brain in the only way we know how, chaotically and set up for the most fun possible.
0:29You've seen a lot of players to buy videos, but this one is going to be a little bit different.
0:35That's because it's Dynasty Points and it starts... well, it starts right now.
0:39Hello everybody, welcome back to Dynasty Points. If you're seeing this, we appreciate you.
0:43If you are new here, welcome in, take a seat, relax.
0:46We have you covered. If you're returning, thanks for joining us.
0:50Again, I'm excited because we've gotten to do this now the last couple of years, Rich, where we have our friend Rich
0:56Rebar on, at Lord Rebs over on Twitter or in the X universe, spitting out just hot fire all offseason, Rich, and
1:03we thought there'd be no better time than right now, A, because we were running out of it, and B, because again,
1:09it's kind of this weird, almost dead space in Dynasty.
1:12Rookie drafts are all pretty much done unless you're in a chaotic home league like Jacob and I are in, where our
1:19commissioner can't set a draft time to save his life.
1:22Or you're in mid-startup form. A lot of the existing leagues kind of get left on autopilot.
1:27We don't want to do autopilot today. We know you've been giving us advice on players to buy like Josh Downs the last time you were here.
1:35Is this the year that he actually gets to lay claim to the player you compared him to?
1:40We don't know. Well, we have things set up a little bit differently here for you, Rich, and for those watching and listening.
1:47We are going to ask you for some players that you're buying under some different sets of circumstances.
1:52We have got the car dealership, a Maserati of a player you're willing to pay luxury prices for.
1:58We've got Costco. Everyone loves Costco. I don't know, man.
2:01I don't like going to Costco, but I usually like what I get from there.
2:05Here's the problem with Costco. Especially on sample day.
2:08See, that's the thing. People will be like... I can't handle the way people wait and just clog lines for free samples.
2:14They're like, I got to get this piece of cheese.
2:17And I'm just like, I bet it's a piece of cheese, man.
2:21Here's the thing. I've never gone to Costco as an adult when I've had things to do, to be honest.
2:27The only memories that I have of Costco are when I was like five or four.
2:32And my mom and her mom would go around buying stuff.
2:35And I would just ride on my grandfather's cart and he would take me to all the samples.
2:40And so that ruled. I didn't have a care in the world.
2:44I wasn't concerned about what time I was getting home.
2:47I didn't worry about the lines. I didn't worry about if we ran someone over in the cart.
2:52I was just going to be eating the same piece of cheese 16 times as we went around waiting for my mom
2:59and Grandma Elle to decide whether they wanted the really, really large box of crackers or the really, really, really, really large box of crackers.
3:06So that was A-OK with me. If I went to Costco now, like, you know, with a job and like a life
3:13and God forbid, if I had a family, probably becomes pretty miserable pretty quick.
3:17But I'm going to keep my fond memories alive.
3:20The key is you can't go on the weekend at any level.
3:23No. I feel like I have the opposite Costco experience where I'm just trying to avoid the people trying to give me
3:30samples or sell me something the entire time. I feel like they always want you, oh, like, go lay on this mattress or, oh, what's your phone plan?
3:38Do you want to switch your phone plan? I feel like I'm more like fighting off all of the Costco employees the
3:45entire time that I'm there, like the total flip side of Jacob's experience.
3:48All right. We may have gotten sidetracked from the original point of the show.
3:53I did warn everybody in the open that we do it the way that we know how, which is chaotically.
3:59So to be fair, if you're still watching, you should have expected this.
4:02But we are using Costco as an example, a player you're looking to buy at market price in as many leagues as possible.
4:09We've got the stock exchange, a player you are looking to buy and think is undervalued who could rise this season.
4:16The scrapyard, a potentially unappealing player you're willing to buy low on and restore to their proper form.
4:21Look, that sounds like every quarterback I ever draft.
4:24And then, of course, the bulk barn, a very cheap buy who can produce for you in a pinch.
4:29And if you are unfamiliar with bulk barn, you should get familiar because there's nothing like going and getting two pounds of sour keys at a reasonable price.
4:38So, Rich. Is this a Canada thing or bulk barn?
4:40Bulk barn is a Canadian thing. I never know what's Canada only until I have the privilege of doing these shows.
4:47You know, it's like sometimes I'm talking to Americans.
4:49I'm like, oh, I was at Cactus Club the other night.
4:53And they're like, what do you mean? And I'm like, well, that's how I learned that they don't have that.
4:59And today I learned that you don't have bulk barn in America.
5:02Surely you have a place where you buy like bulk products.
5:05Yeah, it's called Costco. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
5:09Not like that. Like what if you had a real hankering for like trail mix?
5:14Like where would you go? Like is there a place where like a bunch of boxes of like dried apricots and like
5:20trail mix and like macaroons and you go in with a scooper and you like put it in a little bag?
5:27Oh. No, no, I don't. There are not many places like that.
5:30Like Chaves. Wow. That sounds like a mom and pop store.
5:33Like you walk into the candy shop with like the scooper and you put the candy in the bag is what I'm envisioning.
5:40But yeah. That's basically what it is. But man, you guys are absolutely missing out.
5:45But Rich, we have you here. Our country is not exactly thriving right now.
5:49Everything in your country can be fixed by the addition of bulk barn.
5:53Bulk sour keys. Bulk licorice. I mean, what could go wrong?
5:56As much as we... If you bring your own bag, you get half off.
6:00It's pretty great. That actually is pretty tight. Yeah.
6:03Rich, we have you here for a lot of things.
6:06And not always to tell you the wonders of bulk barn or to discuss Costco strategy.
6:11But again, these players are players that you are heavily into at this point.
6:15So let's kick it off with the upper tier.
6:17The car dealership. You walk in. There's a Maserati of a player.
6:21You're willing to pay that luxury price on who we have.
6:24Oh, man. I'm starting it off, huh? Well, my guy would be right now Malik Nabors.
6:29Like pretty clearly. And he gave us another gift, I think, the other day.
6:33Yesterday, I think, is when he dropped the quote of like, he didn't think he was 100% yet.
6:39But then everyone else took that as in like, well, I guess he's dead.
6:43You know, but this is a guy that I think at the end of his rookie year kind of showcased that like elite ceiling.
6:50He pretty much helped a lot of championship runs that rookie year, especially that game against the Colts.
6:55Sorry, Jacob. It was a fun game, though. And then we saw him have the huge game with Ross.
7:01And then the next game he plays, we had one game against the Chiefs.
7:05And then comes back and we're going to have this new leaf with Jackson Dart.
7:10And then 11 snaps in. Hurts his knee. We don't get to see him.
7:14But this is a guy that I think is probably a top three receiver right now in terms of like the age spectrum plus talent.
7:21He's my number seven player overall still right now in Dynasty ranks.
7:25So he's like, he goes like 12, 13 now if you do like Dynasty startups and because it's always pricing in the most recent thing.
7:32But this is a guy I think that's going to bounce back.
7:36We haven't really seen this injury like really debilitate like a lot of receivers like it did when I was young.
7:42Jerry Rice actually came back from an ACL the same season one year and then broke his kneecap.
7:47But neighbors is a guy I fully expect to bounce back age trajectory wise and get kind of rolling here.
7:53I have some questions about like Matt Nagy and stuff like that.
7:57But like this from a talent perspective and Dynasty, like I'm always just talent forward and agnostic to like situations.
8:03It's so fluid in the NFL. This is a player I think is just being undervalued from a talent perspective right now.
8:09Totally agree. You know who doesn't agree is Reddit because I was on there for the AMA today.
8:15I had a great time. People are very worried about the knee.
8:18But I agree. I had Malik neighbors. I just did a Dynasty rankings update on cut down day.
8:24This is an annual tradition. And I have him all the way up now with him looking likely to play in week
8:30one or soon thereafter as my 102 in Superflex Dynasty.
8:33Overall, I am wide receiver one. I'm only behind Josh Allen.
8:36And basically the first time I see him look completely healthy, he will pass Josh Allen.
8:41So I'm all in on the Malik neighbors call there.
8:44Definitely someone I think worth worth paying up for.
8:47Yeah. And it goes back to kind of what we've talked about throughout the summer, just with the dearth of like superstar
8:53wide receiver options that are currently in the NFL.
8:56We're really kind of hoping on this 2027 draft class to save us.
9:00But yeah, neighbors, although in the short term he has the injury, you just zoom out a little bit.
9:06And the profile is honestly pretty unique to have a wide receiver that was as immediately productive as high pedigree from a draft perspective as he was.
9:14That has basically done nothing besides produce top five fantasy wide receiver numbers when he's been on the field going into year three.
9:20Yeah, it doesn't really get much better than neighbors.
9:23I agree. I don't have him up in my 102 yet, but Jacob tends to be ahead of me on some of these things.
9:30So maybe that's where we're heading. But yeah, I'm fully on board with everything you guys just said.
9:36And it's just not very often you actually get buying opportunity on a player like this.
9:40And especially someone that's on track to play. I mean, you've got neighbors Ferguson for DJ Moore and Harold Fannin.
9:46That is a that is a dream. That is a dream trade dream scenario.
9:50They just don't become this available. You've got other trades like Malik neighbors and Cole commit for Ken Walker and a Rond
9:57a Gadsden all from the fantasy points front office trade database.
10:00These are real trades that have actually happened. So if you're saying not in my league, these trades aren't real.
10:06No, he's actually is quite available. We're going to go to the next one here, Rich.
10:11And we talked about this spot a little bit earlier, but we're going back to the premium parking section here.
10:17We've paid for the past. We're going back to Costco.
10:20And that means a player you're looking to buy at a market price in as many leagues as possible.
10:26And I feel like this is kind of the tier of player where almost every single content creator tends to avoid because
10:32it's not as sexy when you don't hear buy at this incredibly low price sell high, etc.
10:37It doesn't doesn't sound as good to click on, but there are often some of the most important pieces of your dynasty roster.
10:44So a player you are looking to buy at market price in as many leagues as possible.
10:49Yeah, I think right now just like scouring some some things that are going on dynasty leagues right now.
10:55I think a player that's going to be higher.
10:57And I know that's not the theme of this one, but is Devante Smith.
11:02Devante Smith is a player that I think people kind of lost the plot on like how actually good of a football
11:08player he is just because he's played next day.
11:11A.J. Brown for four years. But this was the last wide receiver to win the Heisman Trophy in like a absolutely bananas
11:17season, like playing next to legit NFL talent. Like he's out here dropping 200 yards on Ohio State.
11:23He scored 23 touchdowns this last year. I think almost just just under 1900 yards.
11:27We only have to see him operate as a wide receiver one for one NFL season.
11:32And it was his rookie year with first year starter Jalen Hurts.
11:35And obviously, as a reporter Jalen Hurts, we're finally getting a chance to see him operate as a wide receiver one again.
11:42Everyone's giving you the splits about the on off splits with A.J.
11:46Brown. But for me, it's just like this is like a premier talented player.
11:50And just playing like a number two role in a super low volume passing offense was a very viable player in your lineups.
11:57But also like his price hasn't moved with A.J.
11:59Brown leaving, which is really odd to me. Like you're basically buying him and not only dynasty, but redraft at the same
12:06price when he got like this immense bump. Still only 27 going on 28.
12:10There's some fluidity here into where we get a new offense.
12:13You know, hey, man, could this be the last year of Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia?
12:18Who knows? So we could see what happens here.
12:20But this is a player I just believe is is from another guy that said from like a talent perspective is just
12:27I want to bet on because he's that damn good.
12:30I'm really curious. So he's been a guy that I've been, I guess, a bit back and forth on.
12:35I started the year really bullish, especially because the especially when we had this nice moment in time where his ADP was
12:42still like in the fourth in redraft leagues because or in best ball leagues.
12:46Because people were acting like A.J. Brown wasn't going to get traded when he was very obviously going to get traded.
12:52And it was like kind of the easiest bet in the world because his ADP was just clearly going to get moved
12:59up the board as soon as that inevitable notification happened.
13:02Since then, he's bumped up a ton. He goes kind of early three now in like the best ball market.
13:08And I know that we're we're, you know, ostensibly dynasty focused.
13:11I guess I'm just curious in terms of how high do you think the ceiling can be for Smith in the context of this passing offense?
13:19It's been like under 3,500 passing yards the last couple of years.
13:22Like can he what is the hope is the hope like low end wide receiver one?
13:27Do you think he could threaten to be like into that top six wide receivers range competing with like an Amon Ross
13:34Seedy or a Jefferson at an absolute apex? I've struggled a little bit on him versus some of the other guys in
13:40that same tier, like either a Flowers, who I think has less target competition or a Waddle, who I think plays in a higher volume passing offense.
13:48Or do you think he can be like a true like 30 percent targets per route run like that level of dominance,
13:55which is like in my perspective, probably what it takes to hit.
13:58Like a major ceiling at an early round three costs and a low volume offense.
14:03Like what's what's kind of the math behind how far we can go with Smith?
14:07Yeah, I think probably the the former where you started, I think probably in the context of just 2026 only in this
14:14offense, probably more of like a low end wide receiver one, like a maybe like a wide receiver eight, like wide receiver 12 finish.
14:21But big picture. I mean, this there could just be a lot of changes here.
14:26I really honestly think if Jalen Hurts doesn't take to this offense, which seems outlandish to say from like one, a Super
14:32Bowl and they've been to another Super Bowl, but that he could find himself, you know, almost being pushed out.
14:38Because, I mean, the this the offenses that Jalen Hurts has been a part of, like they've all been kind of hamstrung by the things he can't do.
14:46Now, is he a really good quarterback still that you can win with?
14:50Absolutely. But is he still a quarterback that maybe doesn't get you access to things you want to do?
14:56Also, absolutely. Because like he's now turning into the common denominator, right?
14:59Like you've always like he said, he's had a different coordinator basically every year since high school.
15:05And, you know, is that because and then he's going to be playing under center for the first time in his career.
15:11Like there's definitely some fragility here. And I don't think that they're going to just like go out and wing it with Jalen Hurts.
15:18But, you know, if there's an opportunity here where there's more passing volume, I think the ceiling could be higher.
15:24We're at a really weird spot, too, where I think the elites at wide receiver are like pretty clear.
15:30And then you got kind of red flags with everyone afterwards.
15:33But we did see, you know, Jack Smith and Jigba, you know, become the first wide receiver lead the NFL in receiving
15:40yards on a bottom three pass rate team. I think Demondi Smith is that kind of talent.
15:45I definitely think he's as talented as a guy like JSN.
15:48Now, that's probably like a one. OK. Oh, I mean, absolutely.
15:51I mean, like I said, go back to just like his profile in college.
15:55I mean, this dude was dominating everyone. And like with like JSN played a good players, he played a good players, too.
16:02So I think there's more upside still. But I think in 2026 context, you're more right that he's probably just like a small win in terms of there.
16:10But from a dynasty perspective, he's always going to be priced a little bit down because he's 27 now.
16:16And we've got a hotbed of like 22, 23, 24 year olds.
16:19But we know that like they're all going to like they're not all going to hit.
16:24So like while you might be into like a guy like I don't know, I'm trying to think like who's down here.
16:31Luther Burden is probably not a great example. But like Tett McMillan, right?
16:35Tett McMillan's 23. You know, got you got the runway for age.
16:38Another player is a good talent. But like worse.
16:41How fluid is his situation? How much of the quarterback changed?
16:44How much is he stuck? How many more years do we have to say or like he go like just pushes the
16:51wide receiver to brink where you're like, all right.
16:53Am I out or am I in right? Like there's some guys like that I think he can compete with.
16:59And I think like a guy Chris Alave who's jumped him.
17:03I think he's a better player than Chris Alave is, too.
17:06Yeah, Jacob and I had this debate a few episodes ago when we did our wide receiver tiers.
17:11And he like intellectually destroyed me for having Chris Alave and Devante Smith too far apart.
17:16It was inconsistent with my redraft rankings. It was a very embarrassing look and moment for me.
17:21But I will pose kind of a similar type of question to you on Devante Smith now, Rich, because I think Smith,
17:28while I hear you in terms of he is probably valued lower in dynasty than how good I think he is as a player should maybe imply.
17:36I think my problem is, yeah, 27 going on 28.
17:39He's in dynasty speak. He's like a year away from being almost 30, right?
17:43That that that is legitimately how the dynasty market treats these guys unless they have that amazing ceiling season.
17:48If Devante Smith has a top six wide receiver season this year, then I would agree with you.
17:54Then, yeah, he is undervalued in dynasty. But I do think if he hits like kind of that smaller win borderline wide
18:00receiver one outcome that we're talking about, which is also kind of where I have him ranked in redraft, then I don't know.
18:07I don't know that he's like the I just think he would go in the same round of startups or like half
18:14a round later next offseason is kind of what I'm saying.
18:17But but maybe that is like the most efficient way to get points out of, yeah, a startup pick right now.
18:23But yeah, I don't know. I think I'm just I'm underwhelmed, I guess, is what I'm saying.
18:28I think that's always an argument. I'm whelmed by you saying he's as good as JSN.
18:33Like if he's that level. I am whelmed by that.
18:36Yes. Like if that's if he if he is that good, then I don't think the concerns.
18:41I mean, the concerns matter. Right. Like those those are the same level of concerns as to like why we're not drafting JSN over Jamar Chase.
18:49But like those concerns don't matter at his cost.
18:51Like he can he can very easily smash his ADP if he's like one of the best five wide receivers in the NFL.
18:58That's that's probably I think the key is, is he is he like in the 10 to 15 range or is he like a top five level talent?
19:07If he's if he's the latter, then yeah, he's he's like absolutely, I think, capable of obliterating his ADP.
19:12Yeah, the front office has him going at wide receiver 26.
19:1626. So if you're paying wide receiver 26 prices and this ends up being the hit that Rich thinks he can hit.
19:22I mean, you're you're laughing your way to the bank and all of a sudden that age variance really doesn't matter as much to people.
19:30OK, there's a number of guys in Dynasty for at least one year.
19:33He's going to destroy this. Yeah. Yeah, right. Like, you know, that's like at cost.
19:38And I think then you have a runway of saying, all right, well, he moves up a little bit.
19:44And then do those guys come back to the pack to, you know, you know, if he smokes, you know, a lad McConkie this year.
19:51Right. Like that's like wealth in the range of outcomes.
19:54Even even guys, I think that are way higher than I'm like, how how shocked would you be if Devante Smith like
20:00gave you a comparable season to Drake London this year?
20:03Not shocked. Yeah. It's surprised, but not shocked. Yeah.
20:06I mean, I have London higher, too. But like, you know, it's like I don't think that the Delta is like super
20:13wide, whereas like London was what like wide receiver seven, eight and Dynasty.
20:17They're only like a year and a half apart to an age.
20:20So it's not like it's like an out like maybe my Tet one comparable is like too far away to bridge like
20:27a Buka maybe is a better one, too. It's like a Buka probably says a lot of question marks more.
20:33So that is the one where I mean, he's such an interesting player in Dynasty.
20:37I wrote him as one of my I had my athletic article out last week and I had five cells and I
20:44kind of broke it into different types of teams.
20:46But I had a Buka as a cell on largely for the reason that he's an interesting one where I think people
20:53reasonably in Dynasty see a young player that they expect to get better.
20:57And so then they price him up as though he's going to get better, which makes sense.
21:02It's really hackable if they didn't. But then I think sometimes people forget that.
21:06Then when you look at a Buka is I think like the wide receiver 11 right now or something in Dynasty.
21:12And and I just hope people understand that, like, he better get better and he better get a lot better because if
21:19he doesn't post a breakout season, everyone's hoping for like he can have a better season than last year and lose Dynasty
21:25value while also producing less than other guys who will produce him in the process.
21:30So Smith is a classic case of to me.
21:32I think he was even one of the names I suggested where I said, like, you know, if you if you have
21:39a particularly high value team and you have a Buka, like instead of kind of risking it all on this projection, like
21:45you could just trade him for Smith, probably get more production at an asset on top.
21:50And you kind of fix your costs, which is like probably what I'm a little bit more prone to do.
21:56But obviously, you know, if a Buka has like the JSN season, that's that's a missed opportunity.
22:01But there's a lot of projection baked into that lofty Dynasty price.
22:05Well, that was a better conversation because listen, the first the other guy had written down as Colson Loveland.
22:10I think we just would have had a pretty kumbaya conversation.
22:14So that at least gives people a wide variance to talk about, like the the layers, the peeling back the onion on
22:20Devontae Smith and what kind of your roster looks like.
22:23I honestly don't even think it would surprise me if you put up like CeeDee Lamb type run type numbers.
22:29Like if you're getting mid to production from somebody like Devontae Smith in this year, it's it's going to shake people up.
22:36It really will. So just to be clear, you're very in on Colson Loveland.
22:40Is that what I'm hearing? Yes, very much. Oh, that's that's really good to hear.
22:44Yeah. All right. Look, I think David said something similar on one of the shows that he did with you.
22:50But like whenever, you know, I have this I have the slap sis, which is like this bit.
22:56Right. You know, about all the different people where they fall in.
22:59But like hearing hearing someone who is more more married to the numbers and who I trust implicitly with the numbers back
23:06up my vibes based players is very meaningful for me.
23:09So to hear to hear the Colson Loveland is is.
23:12Yeah, good. Put him on the put him on the sheet, Tom.
23:15Good. He's he's on the list because it would be.
23:18I think our our audience would be disappointed if we didn't find a way to just shoehorn in Loveland and or burden
23:25on every program from here until week 17. Well, we have a ship chase that we have the spite draft tomorrow, which is the lead.
23:32We've never done this before. It's usually we draft teams together, obviously.
23:36But we've had like a number of players where each of us keeps getting like three V one outvoted out of all summer long.
23:43And so the idea of the spite draft is we're all going to draft against each other to give everyone a chance
23:49to just get the guys that they keep losing arguments over.
23:53And you can just put Loveland on my team already at the 208.
23:57And so I'm excited to hear this in advance of the future two thousand dollars I'm spending on him tomorrow.
24:03Fantastic. All right. Let's get into maybe a little bit of finance bro.
24:06Theory here with the stock exchange, a player you are looking to buy.
24:10And think is undervalued, but could rise this season.
24:13This is this is a very popular content creator conversation, Rich.
24:16But I have a feeling like the last time you were here, you've got you've got somebody pretty special for us.
24:23Well, I was I'm not going to do downs again.
24:25It's all he fits. I'm going to I'm deciding to take this in an angle of last year's like recency of Michael
24:32Wilson, Parker, Washington and Alec Pierce kind of breaking out where it was like kind of under the umbrella of like this is who these guys are.
24:40And it proved out they were not those guys.
24:43Right. So I have a couple names, but the first guy I'm going to start with is Romeo Dobbs.
24:48You know, what if it was I'm high on AJ Brown?
24:52I love this fit. I love that AJ Brown is going to finally play with a real quarterback and an offense that's
24:58going to play under center and have play action passes.
25:01But what if the knee is a problem? What if there's like these pulled out with age?
25:06Romeo Dobbs trajectory wise. He's got to also play in a new environment that I think is really strong.
25:12Get that attachment to Drake May. He we know he could score touchdowns.
25:16I think he was an undervalued prospect. So he's a guy that I look at down in this range of saying like,
25:22oh, he could like we could look back on this and be like, man, we were way under on Romeo Dobbs and he can make a big push.
25:31I'll let you guys take that one. And I've got I've got two more names I want to throw in here.
25:37Dobbs is interesting. Like I my initial reaction for years whenever Romeo Dobbs is mentioned, it's like gross.
25:42Probably like Michael Wilson. But I think he's been steadily getting better under the hood like over time for sure.
25:48I think that he I mean, he's been competing with very legitimate target competition in Green Bay and he's not been amazing,
25:55but he's been pretty good in the hardest role in that offense.
25:58Right. Everyone else gets to run 70 percent of the routes and they only run the routes that are tailored for them
26:05or as Dobbs has to go play X every single snap competing against the rotation of very quality target earners.
26:11And I think he deserves credit for that. But he's also in a spot to where AJ Brown, if his knee is
26:17cooked or if he suffers an injury like there's nobody else in New England really at all.
26:22So I think that there could be a lot of optionality for him to have a high ceiling, especially contingently.
26:28And I assume they're going to be one of the 12 teams.
26:32I mean, they can't stop talking about how much they love Eli Reardon and they traded Kayshawn Booty for seemingly no reason, really.
26:39And I don't know how addicted they are to like playing Matt Collins and Demario Douglas, probably more addicted than I want them to be.
26:46All of us. Way too much. Yes. I guess if you play Matt Collins, you're in 12 personnel anyway.
26:52So what's the difference in terms of like the the effects on on outside wide receiver volume?
26:57So that probably is a distinction without a difference.
27:00They probably are tighter this year, though. You know, they just had a pure rotation last year.
27:05And I do think that Dobbs and Brown will largely be full time players.
27:09Yeah, I think so, too. I do want to just point out for the viewing audience that I purposefully waited as long
27:15as I could before coming in there because I wanted to see how uncomfortable Jacob would get having to think of something
27:22positive or exciting to say about about Romeo Dobbs.
27:25I know how painful that just was for him.
27:27I don't even I didn't even hate him last year.
27:30Like I in in best ball, I think I was like significantly overweight last year.
27:35I'm not as like I don't know that I'm as enthused from like a dynasty managed perspective, but I can see it.
27:41He's he's grown on me on a year to year basis.
27:44That's only I think that's on you because he's a patriot now and you can't not tout patriots that play with Drake May.
27:51All people forget. I was like really in on Dobbs as a prospect.
27:55It was like that was like one of my like big calls.
27:59Yeah, I like him too. It was Dobbs as a prospect.
28:02I mean, then it's like he kind of fulfilled like the 90th percentile outcome of what I thought was possible was just becoming a relevant NFL player.
28:10Just win for a day three receiver. And then, you know, we kind of like then it's then he just became like a it's not even his fault.
28:18He's just he's just been such an inconvenient truth for so many other players that I like more that I've like kind
28:25of been forced to root for his demise. But it's not really that I like think he's like a scrub or anything.
28:31The problem I think with. Sorry to say the problem with touting somebody like Dobbs that Kyle Williams is going to break
28:38out this year and be absolutely electric. Kyle Williams is a DH.
28:42Like if the only aspect of playing wide receiver was to win immediately within three yards of the line of scrimmage on
28:48a release against press van coverage on a go route, he would be in the Hall of Fame.
28:53I guess he can't do anything else because the Patriots don't want to play him.
28:58But he is so unbelievably good at that specific skill.
29:01My only thing with Dobbs is I kind of like you're hinting at Jacob.
29:05I think he's very format specific. I just any leagues where his kind of base case, which is 10 to 11 fantasy
29:12points per game, it is usable, valuable, like something you want on a roster.
29:16Then I agree that then I think he is a pretty strong bet just because, yeah, there there is at least a
29:22world where you you look back at this Patriots team last year and you have old Stefan digs at 32 or 33
29:29years old or whatever it was coming off an ACL tear.
29:32I'm ranking top seven or top eight in first sounds for out run and across most per out stats in like a
29:39part time ish role being like a legitimate borderline wide receiver one high and wide receiver two.
29:44Just because of how much Drake may is like able to will all of these receivers to relevance where, yeah, if you
29:50end up in a spot where AJ Brown is taking a step back or if he's kind of getting the digs.
29:57Treatment and Dobbs is leading this team in routes, I can very much see where he he overcomes that a little bit.
30:03And yeah, he is totally someone that I would have scoffed at in a way I would have scoffed at a Michael Wilson last year.
30:11But I I think that's like a perfect answer to this question from Rich here.
30:15I do got two more under the same things.
30:18I come prepared. I give you a couple. The other guy is I think more trendy and more fun, but it would
30:24be Pat Bryant, who I think could obviously get in the rotation.
30:28Immediately. Yeah, Patty Ice. I think you could push Courtland Sutton by the end of the year, who's obviously probably in his last year contractually with Denver.
30:36Anyways, I think when we revisit like ADP next year, he's just going to be a big riser naturally.
30:41And then the last guy that fits the same mold of just like I think people think of this player as one way.
30:48And I think that there may be is an outcome.
30:51He is a different player in the right circumstances.
30:54Will he get him this year? I don't know.
30:57But Khalil Shakir is the other guy who I think would be thought of like Parker Washington and like coming in like
31:03this is a slot only player targets. But if you remember like coming out and especially those first two years in Buffalo,
31:10this guy was averaging 15 yards per catch. His ADOTs just plummeted every year as they've moved him into like this just
31:16like completely yak dependent behind the line of scrimmage player.
31:19First two years, 10 and 11 percent only targets at or behind the line of scrimmage.
31:24Last year's 33, 34 percent. They've talked about wanting to get him more targets downfield.
31:28We saw a little bit of proof of concept in the preseason.
31:32It's only preseason, but at least it was nice to see that the addition of DJ Moore who can run now some of this like shallow mesh.
31:40And it's like they just haven't had anyone to do any of this other stuff surrounding Khalil Shakir.
31:45So I think them having a guy like DJ Moore can actually open up some stuff for him like and get him some more downfield targets.
31:53Because this is, I believe, an explosive player. He played hurt to all last year.
31:58He also did the in-season baby, which never, never is great.
32:01I'm going to pull up a tweet that you guys can't see, but it's from, you know, fantasy points.
32:07You know, CEO here, Scott Barrett. And it's yards per target over expectation.
32:10The only players higher than Khalil Shakir the past two years are Jameson Williams, Puka Nakua, and Jackson Smith and Jigba.
32:17What if we got this guy some targets that just weren't at the line of scrimmage?
32:21Brent Whitefield also said he was a better yards after the catch receiver than Jabbar Chase, which I'm not going to go that far.
32:29But this is a player I think that's literally just thought of as a puddle jumper because of how he's been used.
32:35But what if there's something else here? I believe the Buffalo Bills this year particularly are going to throw more and throw more downfield.
32:42And they're going to be pushed to throw more by their schedule.
32:46They've got a new defensive coordinator. Like, he's kind of just like, he's out here.
32:50You can get Khalil Shakir in a lot of tag-ons.
32:53And he's still got contractual security attached to Josh Allen beyond this year, which is something DJ Moore doesn't have.
32:59I'm reminded of whenever it was early last season, like week three, week four, right after Malik Nabors went out for the year.
33:06But it was still Russell Wilson, if I'm not mistaken.
33:09And for years, like the mantra in DFS was you can't play.
33:13You can't stack Wondale Robinson. You can't play Wondale in GPPs.
33:16He doesn't get downfield targets. He's Khalil Shakir. It's only the short stuff that he gets.
33:21And that wasn't true for when he was the only receiver on the Giants.
33:25And Russ was under center. And he was wanting to throw bombs.
33:28And that like blew everyone's mind. And I think Khalil Shakir is a much better player than Wondale Robinson.
33:34So I'm into this. This is legitimately exciting to me.
33:37This is my favorite call of the show so far.
33:40And very cheap. That's a fun one. I'm glad Ryan boosted Shakir because I wanted to talk about Pat Bryant.
33:46But I like all these calls. I mean, both of Shakir and Bryant would also fall into a pretty rare bucket of
33:52receivers for me, which is like receivers drafted outside the first two rounds that I actually recommend drafting in rookie drafts.
33:59So these are like all guys that I like considerably more as prospects than consensus.
34:03Bryant, I like for largely because I find Cortland Sutton to be like a pretty grossly misvalued player, in my opinion, this season.
34:10This is a guy who was sub 1.5 yards per route run last year.
34:14A lot of the case for him is largely based off of volume.
34:18It was volume that he earned in large part due to running routes, like a lot of routes.
34:23I think he ran the third-row routes on my wide receivers last year in the regular season.
34:28And he ran them against really terrible target competition.
34:31There was a narrative earlier in the summer, I think that's dead now, that like we don't even know who the wide receiver three is going to be.
34:39You know, it could be Pat Bryant, it could be Troy Franklin.
34:43It's certainly not Troy Franklin. This is one of my favorite stats.
34:47Marvin Mims. This is the entire list of players last year who had an 8 out of 12 or higher and at
34:53least 50 targets and had a yards per target under 7, which is pretty shocking.
34:58If you have a high 8-odd, of course, your yards per target on average is much higher.
35:03That's like broken Mike Evans, who's playing through 17 different injuries, Adderall Mitchell, Darnell Mooney, Alec Ayo Manor, Van Jefferson, Keon Coleman,
35:09Jerry Judy, and my guy Troy Franklin, who had 102 targets.
35:12He ran more routes last year than Pukinikua. The level of addition by subtraction, I think, from getting him out of the
35:19offense, getting Jalen Waddell into the offense is going to be dramatic.
35:23And to me, if Cortland Sutton was like an 18-19% target spread outrun guy next to basically Troy Franklin and Marvin Mims
35:29and the corpse of Evan Ingram, I don't really know how that number goes up when you all of a sudden drop
35:36a star receiver who they invested heavily in. And Pat Bryant, towards the end of the year, was really coming on.
35:42I think if he never got the multiple concussions that knocked him out of games at the end of the season.
35:48I remember that Buffalo playoff game. He was targeted, I think, three times on the first drive or on the first two drives and then left the game.
35:56If he had stayed in that game, I mean, one, I would have won a lot of money in DFS that week.
36:03And two, he probably would have like a three-round higher ADP and maybe Sutton's would be lower because I think they were
36:10really trying to find a non-Sutton answer for large portions of last season.
36:13So I agree with you. I think Brian's going to play a meaningful role this year.
36:18I think that that's another team that might consolidate a bit more.
36:22Like, to me, teams that have a billion different guys running routes and then go out and make significant changes to their
36:28receiver room the following year, don't strike me as teams that are necessarily content to just be super rotational.
36:34They strike me as teams that are very discontented with the state of their receiver room the previous season and then have made moves to change that.
36:42So I think Brian plays a real role this year.
36:45If Sutton's gone next year and Brian's impressive, like, he'll be the guy that has the Sutton ADP next year as the number two next to Jalen Waddell.
36:53You know, the guy who's going round seven, round eight and redraft.
36:57And, of course, that would carry a pretty significant price tag in Dynasty.
37:01Yeah, I mean, considering the price tag now for someone like Pat Bryant is really low.
37:05From August 30th, we got the 312 and the 306.
37:08So apparently someone else has a rookie draft happening that their commissioner can't seem to schedule to save their life.
37:14But you also get a 27 third involved in this, too.
37:18And that feels like a really easy Pat Bryant pickup.
37:21We've got Kirk Cousins being traded for for guys like Pat Bryant.
37:24Rico Dattel, and you're getting Jordan Mason and Pat Bryant.
37:27Like he's a throw in right now, essentially an afterthought.
37:30So I definitely I definitely love that call. And I love players that are this cheap.
37:35This is just my just my favorite gross. Gross, gross type of pickup.
37:39Let's talk about the scrapyard. Speaking of which, gross.
37:41Those guys are all in the scrapyard, to be fair.
37:44A potentially unappealing player you are willing to buy low on and restore to their proper form.
37:49This is my favorite category to talk about. Yeah, I took the latter portion of this as kind of not the unappealing part.
37:56If I was stumping for him, they'd obviously have appeal.
37:59But to me, this is what's a no-brainer, right?
38:02Like this is Jaden Reed with a bullet. Jaden Reed picked up that steam after year one.
38:07Another player, again, like I just believe is a lot stronger of a talent than Matthew Golden.
38:12And anytime he's played, he's earned targets. He's been electric.
38:15I mean, even the play he broke his collarbone on last year was like an incredible play.
38:20You know, the touchdown came back. Stupid holding call.
38:23It was a holding penalty. I'm like, now I lost Jaden Reed for the season and I don't even get the touchdown.
38:29Don't even get the touchdown. Don't even get the touchdown.
38:32But I mean, everything is set up this entire offseason for one, the Packers, obviously with Wicks and Dobbs leaving.
38:38The offensive line, this is the worst offensive line the Packers have had in the LeFleur era.
38:43They're going to have to throw, could be more of a quick throws that helps a guy like him versus Watson.
38:50And Matthew Golden. Then we have this Josh Jacobs, you know, situation on top of everything.
38:54Like, it's just going to be consolidated targets. They're going to have to throw more.
38:59He's already gotten the contract extension last year. So, I mean, like, this is a player I was in love with as
39:05a prospect, got proof of concept year one, got the rug pulled out on me.
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39:32Yeah. Packers top three in EPA per dropback over the past two seasons.
39:36Bottom three in pass rate over expectation over the past two seasons.
39:39I feel like I make this argument or this thought at some point, like every offseason.
39:44But now with Josh Jacobs, yeah, on the commissioner's exempt list, I can totally see like a legitimately, if not pass first, like more balanced Packers attack.
39:52And I think that carries like, yeah, real fantasy value for a Jaden Reed and for kind of all of these guys.
39:59I'm very interested in basically every Packers pass catcher.
40:01I moan and groan about Matthew Golden when Jacob convinces me to take him in the main event.
40:07But hey, that works too. But give me Jaden Reed.
40:10Everyone knows that if they listen to this program, how warmly I feel in my heart for Jaden Reed.
40:15So I'll play devil's advocate while noting that I'm, of course, a massive fan.
40:19Jaden Reed, of course, has been placed on a different exempt list.
40:23He's been on the Matt LaFleur exempt list from 12 personnel over the first few years of his career.
40:29And so last year, Packers passed out of 11 personnel on 68 percent of their dropbacks.
40:33That was modestly above average. How high do you think it can get this season?
40:38Or what are the odds you think that Matthew Golden is like enough of a disappointment that Jaden Reed just takes his
40:44spot as the starting receiver in two receiver sets?
40:47Because to me, like, so I went through, I did a big piece on the Packers.
40:52I really tried to talk myself into Reed and I did to an extent.
40:56I think he can clearly be a small hit as a slot only player if they pass more, play faster, you know,
41:02all that stuff that I think they're clearly going to do.
41:06He could be like a top 24 receiver. The path from being a massive hit, I do think still requires him, you
41:12know, getting like closer to 80 percent routes rather than 70 percent routes.
41:16What's what's, Tim, in your view, the most likely path of how we get to that route number?
41:22Um, probably not the route number, but I think out of the players here, like he's still I think he's going to
41:28probably double up golden and touchdowns, which may not matter.
41:31It could be like four to eight or three to six.
41:34Uh, but I think he's got the touchdown like scoring juice.
41:38And then also like, I think when you look at Reed, he's, he does play in like, he's been restricted to play
41:44an 11 personnel only, but he's not just a guy that like gets targets like Debo Samuel, who he's always comped to because he had early rushing.
41:52Like this is a guy that has won downfield a lot in his career.
41:56So I think he can create splash plays as well.
41:59But yeah, from an insulation stance, I mean, he's run eight, eight routes in his career and one to two wide receiver sets.
42:06Uh, we, we all, I believe have more fingers and toes than that.
42:10I don't know for sure. Uh, but, uh, to give you some, to give you some extra context, I mean, Matthew golden's
42:17that he ran 73 last year as a rookie with like, and like not even really playing like great.
42:22I know some of it was like injury pushed, uh, up at the front of the year, but yeah, I mean, it's,
42:29he's got to get just like, he's just got to carve into that.
42:33And is it because golden's playing bad? Does he carve into it?
42:36Is it because Christian Watson's hurt? I hope not.
42:39Cause I want Christian Watson to be healthy as well.
42:42Um, but yeah, that's the toughest hurdle, right? Um, that's why I kind of took it as like, you know, returned to
42:48like proper form as in like, you would get this player back versus what we've gotten the last year and a half.
42:55Uh, as a, as like an hour, a smash, whereas I think like the guys we talked about in the front were
43:01like, no, these guys are like high end assets.
43:04This is a player. I think that's just like literally just like priced below where he should be.
43:10Yeah. I think, I think that makes total sense.
43:12I mean, Reed, Reed is a certified good football player.
43:15Uh, and I think you have a really high floor as long as he's healthy of him being a startable player this year.
43:22Uh, my, my cortisol definitely spiked when Christian Watson took one snap off in the preseason and we got freaking Savion Williams coming up personnel.
43:29And it's like, I know Savion Williams, I think was placed on IR, but if you're, if you're willing to do that,
43:36then you just, you just have a set rule that, that Jaden Reed is apparently not allowed on the field in 12.
43:43Like you'll play, you'll play Ryan Heath out there.
43:45Um, uh, you know, or, or Malik Heath or any Heath, um, Heath coming up and working on his route running.
43:51Uh, so it's that, that is so tilting to me, but it's especially tilting to me because I don't understand why Jaden
43:58Reed can't play in two receiver sets. Like, I don't know what it is about his game.
44:03He's small, but he's not that small. He's like actually pretty rugged.
44:07I don't, I don't think it's like a major blocking issue.
44:10Um, he has always had strong success rates in man covered situations.
44:13Like, I don't know exactly what it is. It made a lot of sense to me.
44:18Maybe not a lot. It made some sense to me when they had like five capable receivers for three receiver slots to
44:25just say, well, we're rotating everyone anyway. And so instead of cross training you on different positions, we'll get you your 70%
44:31routes at one position and then we'll kind of rotate the other guys.
44:35Anyhow, like no one was really running all the routes except for Dobbs, uh, this year when they have three competent receivers, I hope that common sense prevails.
44:43And if one of golden or Watson misses time or disappoints or just needs like Gatorade for three plays that Reed is
44:50the one who goes on instead of like some goofball.
44:53But I don't know. Matt Malifleur is like a little bit of an enemy of, of, of mine.
44:58So we'll see. You just brought me and we throw Dobbs into this.
45:02Well, it's just like, I think a lot of people had high expectations for Reed when Wicks and Dobbs departed.
45:08And then now we're just left with, oh no, now they're still Watson.
45:12They're still golden. There's still craft. That's going to get in the mix.
45:16There's still, there's still a lot of opportunity. And like Jacob mentioned Williams coming in.
45:20And it's like, there's still an opportunity for LeFleur to play his stupid little tricks to continue to be like the Sean Payton of wide receivers.
45:28It's just, you're right. There is some, some risks there with that.
45:32But with that comes upside, of course, which we know wins championships.
45:35All right. We have another section that we can get to, which again, brought to you by Canadian brand icon, Bulk Barn.
45:42Uh, I, during this show, I was trying to look up a replacement for Bulk Barn, us related.
45:47And you're right. There's really not many. So it's still Bulk Barn, a very cheap buy who can produce for you in a pinch.
45:54These are some of my favorite types only because a lot of people moan and groan or roll their eyes when we talk about these types of players.
46:03But yet in the dog days of the season, when everyone's either on IR or we have eight bye weeks for the
46:09second time in the season, because NFL scheduling, you rely on these guys quite often.
46:14So they're nice to have in the back pocket.
46:16Rich, who have you brought to us today from Bulk Barn?
46:20Well, the first one is kind of almost Pat Bryant adjacent, uh, where I think he's just like a legitimately goodbye where he's priced.
46:27Um, and it's Ryan Floney, uh, who has multiple outs, I think to be a really strong dynasty.
46:32But I was reading, I was going back to my pre-draft, uh, write up of him.
46:37And I was like, and I was, I was pretty high on him.
46:41You know, obviously when you have those smaller school guys, you always kind of take it like that leap of faith.
46:47But I, I mean, we've been pretty good at kind of nailing these guys.
46:51Like we're feel vindicated on Coker. Now I feel kind of a little bit of vindicate vindication here on Floney, but he's a, he's unrestricted free agent.
46:59So is George Pickens. So like what wins out there?
47:02Uh, so he could be free and walk into a larger role.
47:06He's also just going to be straight up the Dallas Cowboys wide receiver three, which has, I think just face value on
47:12its own, um, to a guy that you could play.
47:15They'll probably have a little bit of a pass reduction this year, just because the defense is not going to be all
47:22time bad, uh, even if it improves. So he would be kind of the first guy.
47:26I know you were looking for like a really boring, uh, like veteran dust ball, but like, he's just, I just want to bring him up.
47:34Cause he's like left out, like he's like wide receiver 70, like in dynasty ranks.
47:39And I think that's as far too low. Like he's right.
47:42He's ranked under some guys. I think that are just like, you're that are just like drawing dead.
47:47Like you'll just never like, why even have some of these guys on your roster?
47:52Um, and then we saw the contingency value that he had last year.
47:56Like the two games that CD lamb missed, well, the one he left at halftime with the concussion for tonight, just came in and destroyed.
48:03And then the jets game that CD lamb missed, he absolutely smashed in that game as well.
48:08That was also part of like that sauce Gardner transition where like you were just playing wider C retweets against the jets.
48:15Cause like sauce was their only good defender. And like, he only stopped the wide receiver ones and like wide receiver twos just bludgeon them every single week.
48:23Uh, but like as far as dust ball status goes and maybe, uh, maybe Jacob will take offense, but he's pretty boring player.
48:30It'd be Michael Pittman. Uh, just like a guy to buy like wide receiver 48 50 pricing.
48:35This is not, this is basically like wide receiver, Jake Ferguson.
48:38Like at this point, like there's just like, there is not a lot of juice here, but man, does he walk into
48:45a spot where like, he can just get peppered from Aaron Rogers.
48:48Like, and you're never going to be excited to really play him, but he's just going to give you like that soft,
48:55just insulation of just PPR volume and points. So he would be like the dust ball status guy.
49:00I take no offense to Michael Pittman. Uh, like he, in fact, like it's so much easier to root for Michael Pittman
49:07when he's not on my team catching like five yard drag routes and falling down immediately.
49:11Uh, but I, I've had, I've had a love hate relationship with the Pittman over the years.
49:17I mean, he was, I think quite literally my highest drafted player in best ball last year.
49:22And it was going really well until Daniel Jones, um, broke his fibula and then tore his Achilles.
49:27So I, I like, I appreciate what Michael Pittman can do.
49:30I just have also like been subjected to what Michael Pittman can't do a few too many times for my liking.
49:36But I think the Colts got to reach that point too, where they were like, if my, cause there's the kind of
49:43thing with Michael Pittman is if he's on your team, you almost, you almost don't have a choice, but to throw them 24% of your passes.
49:51And it's like, is this healthy to throw 24% of our passes to a guy who like does nothing after the ball gets into his hands?
49:58And it's not necessarily, but the Steelers kind of needed a professional adult, like really bad.
50:03They, they were starting Ben Skoranek and Roman Wilson and a bunch of goofballs.
50:07So it probably makes more sense for them when, if Pittman is holding back a bunch of nothings, you know, versus holding
50:14back Josh Downs or 80 Mitchell or whoever else, like people with juice, it's probably less frustrating.
50:19And I definitely think in dynasty where you're usually looking at deeper rosters, right?
50:23It's usually start 10, start 11 leagues. The, that kind of floor play makes a lot more sense.
50:29He's a guy that can be acquired very cheaply and fill in.
50:32I, I like that call. So I'm, I'm not offended at all by Michael Pittman, Colts legend.
50:37And then for no, I'm, I'm in one, literally I only was in one dynasty startup this summer.
50:43Um, I don't know, maybe the fire is gone, but I took Ryan for no at the 20.9, uh, just a couple of days ago.
50:50And to Rich's point here are the wide receivers that were drafted immediately before and after Mr.
50:55Flournoy. It was, uh, Malik Washington, Barry and Brown, Jerry Judy, Chris Brazel, who's on season ending IR, uh, Kevin Coleman, Jr.
51:02Keon Coleman, Kyle Williams, Debo, Keishon Booty, Devon Vele, Bryce Lance, Roman Wilson.
51:05Like that, those, those are the people he's holding hands with.
51:09Uh, I like Flournoy. I, I think he's fun in terms of just like a, uh, uh, a guy who's good at the game.
51:16And I love that he's in Dallas because Dallas is weird about maybe not weird.
51:20Maybe, maybe it's a good thing, but Dallas is more willing to promote from within than almost any team in the league.
51:27Um, most of the time, I feel like teams don't appreciate what they have, but the guy like Flournoy and where even
51:33if they would let Pickens or Lamb go at some point, if they can't sustain paying both long-term, you feel like they
51:40would just replace a perfectly capable player with a first or second round pick because they can.
51:45Whereas Dallas is interesting enough where it's like when Zeke left, everybody was like, oh, they're going to bring someone in.
51:51No, they didn't. They just let Pollard play that year.
51:54And then when they let Pollard walk, they played Rico Dowdle.
51:57Um, and we're kind of seeing it with this year.
52:00It's like, well, they got to bring in someone to be RB2.
52:04It's like, no, they actually like Malik Davis for, for some reason.
52:08And, you know, with Flournoy, I think that could be the case where I could so easily see them trading Pickens or letting them walk or something.
52:16And everyone in the fantasy space is, well, they certainly can't go into the year with Ryan Flournoy as their wide receiver too.
52:22But Dallas is the team that I feel like would say, no, we're good here.
52:27Actually, like we, we like this guy and we'll let it ride.
52:30And if, if that happened, I mean, he could, he could bring back the type of value that say like Michael Gallup
52:37did next to Marty Cooper before CD Lamb came in.
52:40I mean, Gallup was a legit wide receiver too, at least one of those seasons.
52:44And I think Flournoy is, is similarly talented to, to Gallup.
52:48Uh, so I, I like that call a ton.
52:50Yeah, I like both these calls. Uh, I like Michael Pittman, especially Pittman was, I don't know if you guys ever have
52:57this experience when you're doing content in the summer, but I feel like now I'm at a point where if it's May
53:03or June and I'm writing about Michael Pittman, I'm like, Oh, I better get everything about Michael Pittman out right now.
53:10Because I can't talk about Michael Pittman in August when people are drafting like their shallow redraft leagues.
53:15I got, I got to get all my Michael Pittman is going to out target DK Metcalf and be like this great
53:22best ball advance rate piece takes out now in like in early June.
53:26So yeah, Pittman was that guy for me this year where I just haven't talked about him for going like six plus
53:32weeks, but I'm spiritually with you guys in these deeper formats for sure.
53:36Yeah, I did battle with Jacob last year, Michael Pittman jr.
53:39And like he said, it was looking really good for me for a while there, but not, not, turns out if you
53:46play with a significant back injury, things don't, things don't go too well for you.
53:50Um, statistically. So that was tough. I do like the offense in Pittsburgh.
53:54I feel like it's going to be a lot different than maybe what people have been used to.
53:59And yeah, shallow targets. Although I have high hopes for Darnell Washington, you know, Madden legend, but, um, yeah, maybe it's, maybe
54:06it's Michael Pittman and maybe it's not Darnell. Yes.
54:09Yes. They are elite Madden, uh, players. Sometimes you get on early.
54:12Like I remember Madden gamers run miles Austin early.
54:15Cause like he had like, he was like real tall and fat Vincent Jackson was like that too.
54:20Where like you just put them in the lineup and they got good in real life.
54:25And you're like, yeah, we knew, we knew that.
54:28Yeah. Darnell Washington. I have a feeling it's going to be a future five for five, uh, answer.
54:33If he breaks out this year, I really need, I really need that happen for me in my soul.
54:39So that's a, that is a great list. A little bit of a different take a different outlook on players to buy.
54:45I, and why rich with the time running backs, we buy no running backs.
54:49That's right. This dynasty. You're not allowed to talk about buying running backs and dynasty.
54:54That is the fastest way to have people turn your show off.
54:57We know this. We know this. We have a little bit of a break before the game to kick off rich.
55:04So for people that may not know, uh, on our audience, uh, what do you have in this?
55:09Well, a little bit of a break. What do you have coming up for them?
55:13I don't, I don't have a break. I've been writing up week one games this week.
55:18Uh, I've started, I've started, it's the only week I get to work ahead.
55:22And if you guys have ever checked out the worksheet, it is pretty in depth, uh, breakdown of all the games.
55:29So, uh, I'm taking an advantage. Uh, I'm on my fourth game, although I did kind of gloss over some of the 49ers stuff.
55:36Cause I'm just waiting to see if, uh, who travels to Australia or not.
55:40Uh, I mean, no, no one wants to write a couple hundred words on George Kittle.
55:45He doesn't get on a plane. Right. Like, so I'm just waiting.
55:48So I was waiting to see what happens, but there's already some fun stuff that I've ever uncovered.
55:54I'm excited about the Superbowl match rematch. Uh, cause I think it could be a, uh, not a different game.
56:00Like it's not going to be like a barn burner, but like, it's going to be a significantly different matchup with just
56:06the pieces, the Seahawks lost and the, uh, pieces the Patriots have gained.
56:10Uh, you get that 49ers Rams game, uh, after that on Thursday.
56:14And then like the first two games I wrote up after that were lion saints, which, oh my gosh, could be a ton of fun.
56:21And then Buccaneers bangles, which could sound fun on the surface, but as some real underpinning stuff, that's like, man, is this game going to be gross?
56:29Like every other bangles week, one game, week one bangles, dude, every single main event.
56:33I'm like, we're taking the Tampa Bay defense. We got the week one bangles, which are the worst team in the NFL.
56:40And then we go straight into the Browns week too.
56:43It's that's, that's, I've been dialed in on this.
56:46And you know, there's, there's, we've been talking about, I know Jacob wrote a giant, awesome piece on this.
56:51Uh, Ben's wrote a piece on this. I wrote like a trends piece on like where the NFL is going.
56:57And there are some teams that are just swerving into copying what the league is doing and wanting to play under center doing stuff.
57:04And the bangles are one of these teams. And I'm just waiting for it to self-destruct.
57:09Uh, cause you know, like Burrow, like the past four years, like under center, like his splits have been pretty bad.
57:15Like, you know, he's, he's a guy you just want to think you have awesome receivers.
57:20And you have a point guard, like a true, the point guard is underselling Joe Burrow, by the way.
57:26Like, uh, but like a guy who could just read the feed, put them in the gun and let them throw to
57:32Jamar chase and T Higgins and chase Brown in the backfield.
57:36Like what we don't need to dilly dally, apply action and manipulate any defenders.
57:40Like our guys are good enough to beat your guys heads up.
57:43And I look at this game like in week one and I'm like the Buccaneers have like this incredible front seven.
57:50They made like all of these additions. Like they get Reuben Bain, like Alex Anzalone, A's on Robinson.
57:55They draft Josiah Trotter and their secondary is trash.
57:58Like they lost Jamel Dean. Like they're basically playing, uh, Benjamin Morrison and Jacob Parrish.
58:02And I cannot wait for Zach Taylor to just try to get Joe Burrow under center and just get crushed by Todd bull blitzes after blitzes, after blitzes.
58:10Like, what are we doing here? And I'm excited to see how this lasts, but, uh, yeah, that's the kind of fun stuff.
58:17We're, we're getting under the bangles. Bengals are just so primed to like do this dumb experiment.
58:22Cause they're such a donkey team. Start three and four, eventually throw at everything they wanted to do in the off season.
58:29Let Joe Burrow cook, finish the season like eight and one or whatever, you know, and then Zach Taylor's back again next year.
58:36Last year. I mean, at least this is a more, this is at least probably a better adjustment than last year's adjustment,
58:42which is he said, we're going to avoid slow starts by, by like going up to the players and blasting loud music early in the morning.
58:50That was like the talking point going into week one last season.
58:54I, I can't with Zach Taylor, um, at all, but, uh, I'm sure they'll figure it out.
58:59Like through it, Zach Taylor getting blessed to coach this many years with Joe Burrow, Jabbar, Jason D Higgins.
59:04It's just so unjust, but I'm sure they'll figure it out eventually.
59:08I'm just excited to read the week one Baltimore Ravens write up.
59:11You're going to have, I don't, I don't get too optimistic.
59:15You and Jacob heads up week one. I know it's going to be a fun one, but I don't get fun.
59:21Like you guys are going to blast us. Well, I don't get too optimistic on the Ravens on this show, Rich, but I've got, I've got a hope.
59:29I have, I have him second in the AFC this year.
59:33So I'm, I'm drinking the new coaching staff Kool-Aid.
59:35So I'm, Hey, listen, you've got the DeForest Buckner going to get some real soft interior.
59:40That's the pat and DeForest Buckner won't have like a hernia to disc in his back yet.
59:45So that's, we just got to take advantage of that for the first couple of weeks.
59:50I will say that Colts burnt whatever luck we got from the schedule gods last year.
59:55If we just played no one for the first half of the season, man, did that ever turn?
60:00Like we start Ravens, cheese, Texans, yuck. And they, they, they, the Colts.
60:04I don't know if the Colts were the first team to do it, but when they started to give the teams the
60:10option to take the buy, I want to say that they were one of the first teams to not do it.
60:17Well, they're doing it again this year, except they go to Pittsburgh, like off of that, off the international game.
60:23It's like, oh, that's fine. That's actually fine because we, we've never won in Pittsburgh.
60:27I think like I'm, I'm being hyperbolic, but not really in the history of our franchise.
60:32So if you, if you're woke to Colts history, that's just an auto L anyway.
60:36So you might as well not bother with the buy.
60:39You could give us, Pittsburgh could play on Monday night and we could play them in Pittsburgh on Thursday night and we could have a year off.
60:47We're still never winning in Pittsburgh. It's just, it's never happened.
60:50Um, it's not happening. I want to say it's been like since the eighties, um, I'll, I'll double check this, but it's,
60:57uh, you may as well defer the buy cause we're not winning anyhow.
61:01Man. Yeah. The Colts are a team that this entire off season, like kept popping up for me, but I watched them win six games.
61:08The Anthony Richardson is their starting quarterback. So I can't put anything past Shane Steichen.
61:13Like I think he's just bono. He's legit bonafide a good coach.
61:16So he's great. He's great. We're, we're unfortunately going to go eight and nine and everyone's going to get fired, but I'm,
61:23I'm hopeful there's like some way that we could keep Shane Steichen.
61:26You are a fan of a team. I, I, I love Steichen.
61:30Ryan's grown up and just watched nothing but championship after championship.
61:33And he's like, ah, we go from Tom Brady to Drake, maybe we had Mac Jones for a couple of years.
61:40Who cares? Yeah, man. Steichen's going to be a phenomenal coach on his second team.
61:44I, I'm just, it is true, Rich. It was like a weird whiplash for me, but honestly, those few years in between
61:51where it was like the Cam Newton, Mac Jones teams, I was like this, I'm just like a pessimist by default.
61:57I was like, this feels almost more fun. Not, not actually, but in like a hyper online football fan type of way.
62:03I was like, I can just, I can just like snark this team so much more effectively now.
62:09You know what I thought was more fun when Peyton Manning was my quarterback?
62:13I thought that was pretty fun. Pretty decent. I'd like to go back to that.
62:17It's a pretty decent time. Well, of course, on screen, if you're watching on YouTube or if you're checking this out on
62:24the video on Spotify, you can check Rich's workout at Lord Reeves as well on X.
62:29It's always a great time having you on. We got to do this a little bit earlier in the season, but again, very happy.
62:36We could fit this in Rich again. Thanks for joining us.
62:39Thanks for watching. And if you haven't yet, because if you're watching this, that means Dynasty Points live has happened.
62:45You get to go back and check out to see what I have in store for these guys for five for five this week.
62:52I don't think they were really ready for it.
62:55They do not know the topic. So if you want to have a good time, go back, watch the live, catch up on all the news and notes.
63:03As we wrap up the NFL preseason on that right here on Dynasty Points for Rich Rebar, Jacob Sanderson, Ryan Heath.
63:09I'm Thomas Tipple. Remember that clear eyes and full heart can never lose and that your best days, well, they're always spent tilting.
63:16We'll see you guys next time.