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2026 Preseason Rookie News: The Players You Need to Know
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1 hr 2 min
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Aug 26, 2026
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Wed, August 26, 2026
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Carnell TateOmar Cooper Jr.Ashton JeantyEmmett JohnsonKaytron AllenMike Washington Jr.Robert HenrySean TuckerWan'Dale Robinson
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Ashton Jeanty
NegativeInjury5:00
Initial reports suggested a potential season-ending multi-ligament tear, but subsequent updates confirmed a sprained ankle. The injury timeline remains uncertain, with a range of outcomes from playing Week 1 to missing a few weeks with a delayed return to performance.
Insight pageCarnell Tate
NegativeProjection39:12
The source expresses concern over Carnell Tate's outlook due to the Titans' offensive dysfunction and Cam Ward's poor preseason play. While the source has moved him down in redraft rankings, they maintain his dynasty value, arguing that rookie wide receiver value is often tied to peripheral stats rather than immediate team success.
Insight pageNegativeValue48:08
The source expresses skepticism about Carnell Tate's immediate impact for contending teams, suggesting his value is better utilized as a trade asset to acquire a proven difference-maker rather than holding him on a roster expecting production this year.
Insight pageEmmett Johnson
PositiveValue20:13
Johnson is preferred over Mike Washington in dynasty formats due to a more complete prospect profile, better pass-catching ability, and superior advanced rushing metrics. He is viewed as a more conventional fantasy upside bet if he receives an opportunity to start.
Insight pageKaytron Allen
NegativeRole52:10
The source is unimpressed with Katron Allen, describing him as 'juiceless and slow' and noting he lacks the explosive profile and pass-catching experience the Commanders are prioritizing for their backfield.
Insight pageMike Washington Jr.
NegativeValue11:50
Washington is a polarizing prospect with a rough analytical profile, including poor efficiency until his final college season and low missed tackles forced rates. Despite this, he possesses high-end athleticism and explosive run rates. He is currently a third-round rookie draft pick who may see a temporary starting role due to Ashton Jenty's injury.
Insight pageOmar Cooper Jr.
PositiveDepth Chart22:23
Cooper moved ahead of Isaiah Williams on the depth chart during the second week of the preseason, reversing the previous week's trend where he played behind him.
Insight pagePositiveRole23:56
The source notes that Omar Cooper has moved ahead of Isaiah Williams on the depth chart in a timely fashion, comparing the situation to Justin Jefferson's early career trajectory. The source advises against overreacting to preseason depth chart shifts, emphasizing that if you liked Cooper before, you should remain confident.
Insight pageRobert Henry
PositiveSleeper58:41
Robert Henry is highlighted as a deep-bench sleeper stash because he fits the team's desire for an explosive, pass-catching back better than Katron Allen, supported by strong efficiency metrics like 4.22 yards after contact per attempt.
Insight pageSean Tucker
NegativeDepth Chart58:10
The source mentions reports suggesting Sean Tucker may be off the Tampa Bay roster soon, characterizing his potential impact as an annoyance to other backfield assets.
Insight pageWan'Dale Robinson
PositiveUsage43:44
The source suggests that the Titans' offensive dysfunction could actually benefit Wandale Robinson, as he is likely to receive high-volume, short-area targets behind the sticks, which provides a safe floor for PPR scoring.
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Episode Transcript
0:00Another week of the preseason is in the books and that means there's a lot of news and notes about the rookies
0:08of the 2026 draft class floating around the Dynasty atmosphere.
0:11We're here to break down some of our favorite topics, some key decisions, some things that we care about and some things that we might not.
0:20So sit tight, lock in, you're getting the Dynasty Points Rookie Report and it starts right now.
0:26Guys, between injuries, lawsuits, odd potential cut candidates already, players waived that had so much promise, I'm ready for week one.
0:33Unfortunately, to get there we have to go through a little bit more preseason, but that allows us to shed some light
0:41on some of these rookies for better or worse.
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1:18Well, we had our first incident, guys, where a rookie running back who we were hopeful would go to a team with opportunity becomes the backup.
1:27He might get to play. Well, I was at a baseball tournament when I got the Jenty news and I almost fell to the ground screaming.
1:36And then I saw Jacob immediately post on thinking about thinking and I went, oh no, it's real.
1:42The news is real. Before I got the check and I wondered why I already had four trade offers when I checked my sleeper account.
1:51That involved Mike Washington. And that led me to think, and now we've got the Ken Walker news that came today.
1:58We're recording this on the 25th. That's the Tuesday.
2:02So when you're hearing this, it'll be the 26th or later.
2:05We get to talk about Emmett Johnson in this regard as well.
2:10I'm of the belief that you need to acquire these guys before the injury happens.
2:15When they happen, the player that has drafted these guys or traded for these guys, this is what they were waiting for the whole time.
2:23I went and checked the ADP. Mike Washington was ended up going and is going in the third round.
2:30And now you're getting trade offers that required 27 seconds, which were held is higher regard than 26 seconds.
2:37So guys, let's talk about how you're approaching these guys, how you would approach them moving forward.
2:43Because, well, the one scares, it is just a scare.
2:46We don't know what's going to happen in the future.
2:50So, Jacob, I'll kick to you. Mike Washington, Emmett Johnson, kind of how do you approach this?
2:56So I want to split up the specific and the general a little bit.
3:00So on the specific point, you know, it was a whirlwind on Sunday.
3:05It felt for a few hours that the most likely scenario was that Ashton Gentry had potentially suffered like a multi-ligament tear
3:13that would end his season and put his career in jeopardy based on the way that the injury was described.
3:20And then we get the notification a few hours later that night that, okay, it's just a sprained ankle.
3:26The reporting on the sprained ankle has continued to be weird.
3:30It's apparently more low than high. Clint Kubiak won't offer any form of official update today at the press conference.
3:37Whatever. It seems clear that the range of outcomes is somewhere between Gentry plays week one at best.
3:43Gentry misses a few weeks and maybe has a slightly delayed return to performance at worst.
3:49That's a very different picture than what we were looking at for this backfield on Sunday.
3:54And obviously it's a very different outcome for Mike Washington and what his upside potentially is this season than it looked like
4:02it was going to be on Sunday. That being said, the general take is I guess I would push back on what you're saying a little here.
4:11I mean, I'm not against the idea of drafting backup running backs in rookie drafts.
4:17I'm very much in favor of that idea. In fact, it's something I love doing in the third round of rookie drafts.
4:24I'm almost always scooping up a lot of these backups and I have a decent amount of Mike Washington from the third round of my rookie drafts.
4:34But I definitely think that we should not be attached to what the cost of a player was when the circumstances change dramatically.
4:42And I mean, if Ashton Chenty had suffered a season-ending injury or a season-altering injury, the circumstances would change dramatically.
4:49I think that there were, at the time, very different reasons why you may have drafted Mike Washington in round three.
4:56You may have genuinely loved Mike Washington as a college prospect.
5:00You may just, like, ideologically prefer drafting backup running backs versus dart throw wide receivers in that range or tight ends.
5:07You may have Ashton Chenty and you just wanted a handcuff.
5:11Like, who knows why you made that pick? Who knows how your view of Mike Washington has been altered over the course
5:19of watching him look really strong during the preseason?
5:22And who knows where you fall compared to other people?
5:25There might be someone else in your league who loved Mike Washington coming out of college, was super excited about him, and
5:33was surprised and disappointed that he fell to day three of the draft into a spot where he had no realistic chance of earning a starting role.
5:42But then, and maybe that person is not the type to go and attack running backs in rookie drafts.
5:49So they went and they drafted insert wide receiver here, you know, that has maybe a more plausible path to standalone snaps.
5:57But now, Mike Washington has a chance, or at least looked like he would have a chance to become a starting running back for the year.
6:06And maybe these Mike Washington truthers come back out of the woodwork and are much more intrigued by this opportunity.
6:13There's a bunch of different aspects to every single player's value that changes from the talent profile and the situation and all of that.
6:21And so, to me, like, we can't predict what's going to happen.
6:25And when a massive change to a player's circumstances happens, like, I think you should completely reevaluate things.
6:31If you're the highest person in your league on Mike Washington, just because you didn't happen to grab them when they were
6:39the backup to Ashton Jenty, if now the situation is Mike Washington starting running back or even Mike Washington starting running back
6:47for a few games with the chance to impress.
6:50Like, if you think you're the highest person in your league on his talent profile, then go buy.
6:56I don't think it's necessarily like some sucker move to buy higher than a player was drafted when the situation is completely
7:04different than what the situation was previously. So, anyways, that's my kind of macro take on these guys.
7:10Washington, specifically, I have a pretty mixed view on.
7:13Like, the analytical profile, really rough. Five-year prospect, was not very efficient until the last year.
7:19Still a mixed bag in the last year. Really athletic guy.
7:23I personally quite liked the tape. Um, I thought he had the third best tape in the class of the running backs that I watched.
7:31So, I was kind of in and out, um, on him.
7:35And then I was kind of happy that he fell to day three and that he was a guy we could scoop
7:43in round three of rookie drafts rather than a guy we had to go and pay a premium for at like the one-two turn.
7:51Um, so I'm, I would consider myself cautiously optimistic.
7:54You also do have the upside of, I think Ashton Jenty is still going to miss sometime, which means Mike Washington probably
8:02gets a week one start against the Miami Dolphins.
8:05That's the kind of opportunity for him to leave a lasting imprint in the minds of dynasty managers that could last literally
8:13years of what type of tantalizing upside Mike Washington has, even if you don't actually see him in a starting role, um,
8:20for the rest of the season if Jenty comes back.
8:24I love the way you just laid that out, Jacob, because I feel like I'm sort of on the exact opposite end
8:32of all of those possible places that you could be with Mike Washington kind of at every point through that you just described.
8:40So for me, I was almost rooting for him to fall to day three, not because I was thinking, wow, I can
8:47get like, I can scoop up so much of him for me.
8:51It was more, I just have no interest in this profile really.
8:56And I don't want to have to contend with the idea of what if a team just decides to install him as
9:03their starter when that did look possible for a while in the pre-draft process where he was being routinely mocked today too.
9:11Like this was one of the running backs that people were mocking to the Seahawks that people were mocking to these very
9:19open backfields, the commanders, all of them. So I kind of was a little scared of what Washington could turn into just
9:26in terms of I really hate having to take stands on these running backs where I have little to no kind of
9:34belief in the talent, but the opportunity is like very much going to be there.
9:39So it looked like I got off of having to even think or worry about Mike Washington for a while.
9:46Uh, and now that's like come back up, right?
9:49Uh, so I kind of fall on the, the end of, I don't think Washington is that talented of a running back,
9:57but Hey, untalented running backs, as you make a great point to say, have scored a lot of fantasy points, especially in
10:05one to two to three week samples. So I do think it's not as simple for me to look at my pre-draft
10:12evaluation of Mike Washington now and say, well, he'll probably just fail, uh, in week one and week two, and then he'll
10:20probably just go away and we'll never hear from him again or have to worry about him again.
10:26I think that is like eliminating an outcome that from my mind that absolutely could happen.
10:32Uh, so where I'm at on Mike Washington on Emmett Johnson, I think with the way that these, the injury reporting has
10:39lined up as we record right now for Ashton Gentry and for Ken Walker, who, for whom we know literally nothing about his injury.
10:48He, we know he's missing practice with a foot injury today.
10:52He could literally be back tomorrow. We could not even remember this two weeks from now.
10:57Yeah. This is a prerecorded show. So if you're listening to this, um, on Wednesday, August 26th, it's very possible that you know more than, than we do.
11:07We're recording this 1 PM Pacific time, Tuesday, August 25th.
11:10All we know is he has a foot injury.
11:13Like he could have a broken foot or he could be, he could have like a blister on his toe.
11:20Like both of those are equally possible right now.
11:24Yeah. Yeah. So thank you for giving me, yeah, my pre caveats before anything I'm about to say, that's all very, very important.
11:32Uh, but to me, I'm looking at this right now as there's a pretty decent chance that Ashton Gentry misses at least one game.
11:40Maybe Ken Walker will miss one game. If it's not early in the season, Ken Walker does have a tendency to miss games.
11:48This would not be the most shocking thing, uh, for Ken Walker, just looking at his career.
11:54Right. So I, well, while it's important to say, okay, we know there's a higher chance.
11:59Gentry is going to miss a game and that it could come earlier in the season to me.
12:06If I compare them to a Washington, to another handcuff, like an Emmett Johnson, I think I still am like inclined to
12:13lean toward an Emmett Johnson because I like. I see him more as a prospect, uh, because I see, like see him
12:21as just having like a more complete or closer to every down role for any game that Walker does miss.
12:28Uh, where with Johnson, I was more impressed by him as a pass catcher.
12:33Uh, he's funnily enough, like his advanced rushing metrics were just largely better than Mike Washington's.
12:38His were some of the, like the worst I've ever seen, which is like really weird relative to how he looks on
12:46the field and how fast he is and all that.
12:50Like the miss tackles forced all, all of those stats were just like not there for Washington.
12:55They at least were more so for an Emmett Johnson.
12:59So with me, I still am going to prefer an Emmett Johnson.
13:03I had him ranked higher than Washington in rookie drafts.
13:07I would take Johnson now for again, from a dynasty context where I am saying like openly admitting I'm zooming out just
13:14kind of thinking both of these backs could miss games this year.
13:18Both guys could get similar opportunities to kind of audition, uh, to the attention of dynasty managers, uh, in terms of their
13:26skill, in terms of their ability to take over a backfield for a game.
13:31I'm still backing Emmett Johnson, uh, in that contest, but I, this is one that could totally look foolish after week one for months and months and months.
13:41Like Emmett may never get an opportunity. So it is a really tough one.
13:46I maybe against my best interests, I'm a little more inclined to like cling to the, at least like the profile priors
13:53of what I thought of the player before, uh, the, the thing we thought could happen, which is that the starter gets injured actually happens.
14:02Yeah. At this point, I probably like Johnson more in dynasty as well.
14:07You mentioned some of Washington's metrics. It's a weird profile.
14:10So he did have some of the best, um, explosive run rates in the class.
14:15So the, the breakaway stuff was there. Uh, but yeah, you mentioned like the missed tackles forced rate was, was brutal.
14:23Um, so I, there's an interesting degree with him where despite being very large, I feel like he goes down on first contact a concerningly high amount.
14:32Um, I think there's some untapped receiving upside, just like from a tape watching perspective with him.
14:38I do think Johnson is a much more conventional fantasy upside bet.
14:42Um, assuming that the Walker injury is not that meaningful and assuming that the Gentty injury is no more than a couple of games.
14:50Like, yeah, I, I would prefer to back Emmett Johnson.
14:54Who's the guy that I had a tier higher in my rookie rankings.
14:58Um, but we'll certainly, we'll certainly see how this goes.
15:02I, I suspect with the, with what happened with Gentty now, the Washington becomes a, a player.
15:08That's like, uh, just like becomes illiquid where, um, if Gentty was over the season, I think you'd see a ton of Mike Washington trades.
15:17Cause people would have very different interpretations of what that means.
15:20But at this point, like if you have Mike Washington, how much are you really going to get?
15:27No one's trading you a first round pick because Gentty is going to miss a couple of games of the sprained ankle.
15:34Um, and are even, are people even giving 27 seconds anymore?
15:38I don't know. Um, I'd probably take it at this point.
15:42If someone wanted to give me a 27 second, you know, because of a couple of games that Ashton Gentty might miss, maybe that's possible.
15:51But otherwise, like probably what's going to happen is people are like, I don't want to pay anything for Mike Washington.
15:58Just because Gentty might miss two games. And if you have Mike Washington, you go, okay, well, great.
16:04I get to start him against the Miami dolphins and hopefully he scores me a lot of points.
16:11And then he'll go back to being, you know, what he was already, which is an interesting handcuff.
16:17I do think there's like some chance he could carve out a, a non-startable role in fantasy at all.
16:23But like, if he looks fantastic for two weeks, um, maybe he's able to carve out a role that is irritating for Ashton Gentty.
16:32And like gives him enough carries to look good, to keep him in dynasty managers memories, um, going into the off season.
16:39You know, if he gets like six to eight carries a game instead of two to four, that stuff can, can matter at the margins for value.
16:49Yeah. It's the Braylon Allen effect, right? Like it, you know, same kind of thing, but while you mentioned it, we've got
16:56a trade just from today's Chris Rodriguez and Mike Washington for Jacoby Lane and a 27 second, which is not nothing.
17:04Considering it's a 26 third that you were using to draft him.
17:08Um, he was involved in a Rashid Shahid Laporta trade that also netted a player at 27 one.
17:14So kind of uses a throw in to upgrade to a one.
17:18Then you get this one, Adam Randall and Mike Washington from the 24th for a 28 first and a 27 third.
17:26And that's just the kind of deal that I'm saying, like there is, there is a point where you have to be
17:33more responsible with the situation having changed to not tip your head so far over the skis on the initial news, which
17:41is where the initial price still matters to me a little bit.
17:45Like I couldn't justify spending for X just because we might get a couple of like, when we figured out where these
17:53guys went in the NFL draft, we kind of knew what needed to happen.
17:58For them to hit really like more like probably 90 plus percent.
18:02So there's just kind of a way to maybe be more prepared, let's say as dynasty managers and less reactionary to the
18:10point where you have to pay so much more because again, a lot of dynasty managers want to draft these guys when
18:17we know where they're going to up that price.
18:20So that's, that's where I sit on the side of it.
18:24There, there is a, I'll say responsible point to value.
18:28Just one more kind of actionable point. I, that you just reminded me of Tom, that I think we've talked about this
18:35before, but it bears worth repeating now that it's August.
18:39Just overall, when you're managing a dynasty team, you should be a little bit less reactive and more concerned with making mistakes and mitigating big downside.
18:48I think then I would say that about any other format in fantasy football.
18:53So over the weekend, if you were plugged into Twitter, you may have seen screenshots of people getting Ashton Jente in high
19:00stakes, redraft fantasy football leagues at very, very appealing costs.
19:04He was falling Jacob. Jacob, I know drafted him in round four, uh, in a big gorilla.
19:10I saw him going in round six, round eight on FFPC.
19:14Like that was happening. Good for those people. That's a format where it is one entry.
19:19The league only lasts for one year. All the money is in the grand prize up top.
19:25You should be shooting for upside and be okay with burning an entry or yeah.
19:30Setting a team on fire. Uh, when we don't know what the news is, that's always a format where I'm willing to take risks, right?
19:39In dynasty, I think there's almost no point to trying to trade off of breaking news from an hour ago where we
19:47don't know whether Ashton Jente is going to play most games or any games this year.
19:52Uh, I would just rather back myself in dynasty when we all have all of the information.
19:58I'd just rather back myself to make the right decisions with that rather than gambling on.
20:04Hopefully I guess right. When nobody actually knows what the case is for these players and for the injuries.
20:10Uh, I, I just think in that format where the downside chases you year after year after year, if you sent your
20:1828 first or what, whatever future draft capital or players that could have been redeemed for future draft capital, your decisions follow you for years in dynasty.
20:27And I would just always rather make them with the fullest information possible rather than lean into, yeah, maybe I can get
20:35a super team here if I'm lucky. But like, if I don't, I'm stuck with this dynasty team for the next few
20:43years that I just gambled away, uh, off of a, yeah, a lack of information.
20:48Yeah, totally agree with that. Like that was my advice, um, for the brief window of time when we didn't know that
20:56much was like either whether you're trading for Washington or you're trading for Jente, like just take the conservative assumption with whoever you're trading for.
21:04Like assume the absolute worst for whatever player you're trading for when we're in uncertain news back yourself as a dynasty manager.
21:12Like believe that you can build a good dynasty manager or build a good dynasty team over time, like without putting your
21:20team status in injury roulette of like, well, I'm going to bet on this player with a completely unknown injury and like hope that I get good news.
21:29Um, you know, or, or bad news, I guess, if you were trading for Mike Washington, like that to me is like a silly way to play dynasty.
21:39It's a, it's a, it's a way to play dynasty that honestly like displays a lack of confidence in your ability to
21:47build a team without just praying for good luck.
21:50Um, so I, I mean, I'm not saying you can't buy low on injured guys, but, um, I would make sure you're
21:58buying really low on injured guys and not like just kind of trying to have it.
22:03Um, while nobody knows what the injury is, like, I think just take a pause on for, take a pause for the
22:11cause on that one and probably build up the old fashioned way.
22:15Um, talk about another hotly discussed player. Last week we talked about the Omar Cooper playing behind Isaiah Williams and lo and
22:23behold, Omar Cooper plays ahead of Isaiah Williams this week, preseason week two.
22:27Now we had a very kind of back and forth discussion.
22:31The comment section was, was kind of one side or the other with the stripling and Cooper conversation.
22:37My opinion hasn't changed, but Jacob, I, I want you to talk about the Omar Cooper thing.
22:43This kind of stuff happens every preseason where we seem to latch onto the first early bit of news and let it kind of run wild.
22:52So where do you stand with this and, and the outlook, let's say for dynasty moving forward.
22:58I'm going to pitch it to Ryan after very brief comments.
23:02I think he has a rant prepared, but, um, I don't know.
23:06Like to me, like if we are going, it's one thing, you know, if, if, when we talk about the Mike Washington
23:14conversation, like again, let's assume that Ashton Jenty was out for the season.
23:18That would be a massive shift. And how we view Mike Washington, we should recalibrate, but like, you know, and there's room
23:26certainly for like gathering more optimism on certain players have really strong camp buses to a point.
23:32Um, but if you're going to like move someone drastically down the board, especially, or swap them with players that were in
23:40completely different tiers before you've even seen a singular regular season snap of a guy.
23:45Then I guess like just find something else to do from March to July.
23:50Cause like, what's the point of investing all that time and in like talking about these prospects.
23:56And if one preseason game where Omar Cooper is behind Isaiah Williams is like going to drastically change how you view Omar Cooper.
24:04Like, I don't know if you didn't like Omar Cooper before, then you shouldn't like him now.
24:10And if you liked him before, I'd probably fucking relax.
24:13I, that caps off like most of the rant that I was going to go with.
24:19I think really my thing is every single year there are preseason storylines that people become very invested in.
24:25And rookie is playing behind veteran that we've never really cared about in fantasy and probably isn't that good early in August is like one of the most.
24:35Recurring ones that basically has almost never actually turned out to matter.
24:39Now it matters if it never changes, but it changed in a pretty timely fashion.
24:44And Omar Cooper got ahead of Isaiah Williams to where he should have been just like Justin Jefferson and BC Johnson all of those years ago.
24:54Right. So I just, if I mean, maybe I'm just talking to nobody, maybe nobody fell for this whatsoever.
25:00And, uh, and nobody like needs this advice, but I just, if you fell for that, if that like massively changed your opinion on Cooper.
25:09Yeah. I would echo what Jacob said. I think either just fine.
25:13I would even extend it, find something else to do from January through September 1st, so that you don't give yourself the
25:21opportunity, uh, to like make mistakes during the like fire hose of August news.
25:26Or spend even more time, uh, like developing your takes in your opinions in January through July, because I do think that
25:33the stronger and like better reasoned and more thought out your take on a player is the more difficult.
25:40It's going to be for kind of an in the moment news item to shake that.
25:45And in my experience, that is usually a good thing in August in the dynasty format, uh, to not allow your views of players to get radically altered.
25:55And if that's easier for you, if you spend even more time digging into prospects, consume even more content on the prospects,
26:03however that is that you do it, I would recommend it.
26:07Honestly. Yeah. I mean, every year is just Jefferson can't separate tomorrow chase.
26:11Can't catch a football. Um, like, I'm sorry, you have, you have to remember that every August, the people that have not
26:19been around football for the last six months all come back.
26:23So if you're one of the people that's like been with us through the entire year, you should instantly be able to
26:30spot the people on Twitter that have not, that have not been around for the last six months.
26:37Because that, that's the type of stuff that they tweet and that they get really worked up about.
26:43And I think it's, it becomes a skill to filter that out.
26:47I think. It's also important. Oh, I was just going to say that like, it's, it's not like it's, it's nothing.
26:54Like you, you obviously would prefer to have strong preseason reports than not.
26:59Um, but I, I just think that we do like everyone can bring up the different anecdotes in any single direction.
27:06Right. So like Traylon Burks was a guy who had, um, pretty bad, uh, preseason reports and obviously he became a massive
27:14bust and that's easy to remember in hindsight. Um, Garrett Wilson was in the same class and he played with backups as
27:22a first round pick in his first preseason game.
27:25And he turned out to be very good. Um, and like, you can come up with examples of Pukunikua as like a
27:32random guy who got a bunch of training camp buzz and obviously turned into a superstar.
27:38And you can come up with Darwin Thompson who got a bunch of training camp buzz and is a like past and probably future five for five answer.
27:48Like, so I mean, every single player, you want to hear more good things than not.
27:53Um, I would say on the whole probably gets over baked in more than it does get under baked in, but like
28:01try to view every player, I guess, in their own vacuum as much as possible.
28:06Um, is what I would say. But yeah, I mean, Cooper, like it, this is a weird one, man.
28:13Like he's going like we're dynasty show, like in seasonal leagues and stuff.
28:17Like the FFPC main event drafts for 20 rounds and he's like regularly going undrafted.
28:22I've never really seen anything quite like that. It's bizarre.
28:26Yeah. Yeah. A little bit odd. I think it's just generally the take on that whole offense or the whole projected offense.
28:34Maybe. I don't know. I don't know, but I will say another week, another big week for stripling, let's say in a new injury to Mike Williams.
28:43I think that is going to immediately kind of re-steam that conversation for a lot of people.
28:49We were, we're talking about Mike Evans, not Mike Williams, right?
28:53Yes. Sorry. I'm not losing my mind. Oh boy.
28:56I don't know why I'm thinking about Mike Williams.
28:59Uh, probably cause we talked about him five for five and now he's just locked into my brain.
29:05But Mike Evans, right? Another injury to him. Another, another setback.
29:09Again, it's just lining up for stripling as well.
29:12We saw another heavy usage week for him. And after we talked last week about he's the type of player that you
29:20can get an early return on your investment. We're seeing around the industry, the conversation of those 27 ones get brought up.
29:28We're already kind of, I have this feeling that a stripling continues to get this kind of runway.
29:34There's the kiddle situation where he might not be playing week one.
29:38Uh, Christian McCaffrey is, I don't know if he's just, if he's actually banged up or if he's, you know, just like
29:46you're good for the rest of the preseason, Christian, just relax a little bit and we'll get you out there.
29:53But guys, there's a legit runway for like a nuclear takeoff with, with stripling.
29:58And at that point, it's, it's going to be hard to put that back in the bag.
30:03If you would, um, I'm very, like, I'm very tempted to like, kind of get out, but I don't know if I should be talked off the ledge.
30:13For getting out if I can, or if he's just like, Hey, if this hot start hits, it's, it's a sustainable.
30:21We were all immediately wrong. It's one of those feelings, right?
30:24When we are off of a player off of a player and then the situation has changed and I'm like, wait, was I wrong the whole time?
30:34Should I, should I just let this ride? Should I get out while I'm ahead?
30:39Um, serious conversation about a legitimate nuclear type takeoff.
30:42I think the important process point on stripling or any player who has like this much of a hype train attached.
30:49And there's like such a hot topic who probably a lot of people have very different valuations on is to avoid the
30:57impulse to label someone as a buy or as a sell.
31:01And instead try to think of what is the price that I think is appropriate, set a price in your mind, and
31:09then be in active trade conversations regarding this player and as many leagues as possible.
31:14Um, because I, I would wager that if you pulled up the trade tool that you would find a pretty wide spectrum
31:21of prices on what it costs to get to John stripling.
31:25And I'm sure if he found 10 trades, I could find at least one or two, um, where I like the stripling
31:33side and at least one or two that I don't.
31:36Um, so, you know, and the other thing I would stress from a process perspective is, is like we just said, like,
31:44try not to anchor yourself too much to the sunk cost fallacy.
31:48So if, if what you're telling me, uh, you Royal, you not like you, Tom, um, like, so, you know, someone tells
31:56me, okay, I don't want to buy stripling for a first round pick right now because I don't think he was this
32:04great of a prospect and et cetera, et cetera.
32:07Like that sounds pretty reasonable to me. Someone is like, I don't want to buy John stripling for X price right now
32:14because his ADP was 210 four months ago. Like I would say that's a, it might even be the right answer.
32:22I think it's a bad, uh, process. I don't think it really matters.
32:26Like what his cost was a couple of months ago.
32:30I think we should evaluate him right now based on everything we know that doesn't mean throwing out the prospect profile either
32:37and only evaluating the situation and the hype train.
32:41But I think we should take seriously that, you know, the prospect profile, which is pretty rough.
32:46I still maintain, um, in addition to the draft capital, which is really positive, the offensive opportunity, which is really positive.
32:54The fact that Pure Saul, um, is out for the season in a way that he wasn't during rookie drafts, that Mike
33:01Evans is dealing with injuries in a way that he wasn't during rookie drafts.
33:06Like all that stuff is really positive, but what he's looked like in preseason, really positive.
33:12Um, I don't think it's like just the preseason stats either.
33:16I think like he looks legitimately impressive, um, running routes, extremely strong hands.
33:20Um, the way he's been able to win inside and outside, um, on different routes has really impressed me.
33:27So I think it's totally fine to have like a very different opinion of a player today than you did in May.
33:34The question is like, is that opinion upgrade enough in context with what you think of his prospect profile to where you
33:42find yourself on the stripling side of more trades than not?
33:46Like, I don't know. Um, my personal outcome is probably the most boring one, which is if I could get a 27,
33:54one or 28, one, I'm probably just doing that.
33:57Um, that may look silly, but there are not a lot of wide receivers in the NFL that I think are worth
34:04more than like a first and a half. There are, I'm looking like at my rankings.
34:10Let me pull them up right now. There are one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight total that I have being
34:18worth more than a first and a half. So what are your chances of losing that deal really badly?
34:24Um, I think, I think small, right? Like, is he going to become one of the best eight wide receivers in the NFL?
34:32Maybe like Puka Nakua did, you know? Um, but probably not.
34:36And so I think that your chances of losing that deal big are pretty small.
34:41Um, I definitely wouldn't sell for less than a first.
34:45I mean, why should you at this point? Um, it doesn't, it doesn't really make sense to, in my opinion, and then
34:52you're opening yourself up to losing big. So that's probably where I land.
34:57Yeah, I'm going to be in a similar area.
35:00Uh, I know that a week or two ago when I was on this show, I was giving a take that was
35:08similar to that, but with a second, right? Where I was saying very often the guys that are not really thought of
35:15or cared about as prospects in any significant way that start getting like out of nowhere camp buzz, specifically talking about like day three picks.
35:24I was saying it's very rare that they become worth that much more than a second, at least in their rookie years.
35:32That was my take on Cyrus Allen, uh, a week or two ago.
35:36And yeah, I think there, Jacob just laid out kind of a similar thought process for stripling, but of course upgraded to, Hey, this guy went 33rd overall.
35:46And there is a much clearer opportunity here and he has actually performed in the preseason games.
35:52It's like all the other like things you want to pile on to stripling, I think are fair in terms of upgrading kind of where that conversation begins.
36:02Uh, so yeah, I would be open to acquiring stripling, uh, in dynasty in seasonal leagues.
36:07It just is very much going to come down to cost for me.
36:12And the, I, if we're just thinking of players to compare them to, I think one of the more helpful comparisons, uh,
36:20that I've landed on in either format is Casey conception.
36:23Where you can say, all right, I want to be really in on this wide receiver that went in the late first to early second.
36:32That is playing for a genius offensive play caller that could kind of surprise us in week one with how much he plays.
36:40Maybe he won't play a ton. Maybe he'll play a lot.
36:44Uh, maybe he'll see, I'll be very involved. Maybe he won't be, uh, and he's absolutely destroyed the preseason and has.
36:51Just had been a rocket ship in terms of positive reporting.
36:55Uh, and I think you can apply both everything I just said to both Casey conception and John stripling.
37:01Uh, to me, the difference for conception is that he was almost universally loved.
37:06I'd say by like the film evaluators. Uh, and he was, I, I would say more split for the numbers and analytics
37:14people was conception's profile, but I count myself. Among the conception believers, uh, from a numbers perspective, I know Jacob did as well.
37:22Uh, and a lot of people I respected as well.
37:25So comparing that to a stripling where he was definitely like a trendy, like film pick.
37:31Uh, and it, everyone always brings up, Oh, he was going in the second in, in all the sharpest mock drafts, uh, even before the draft.
37:40And that was true to some extent. He was genuinely like a trendy kind of riser guy.
37:46I never thought there was that much to the analytics profile.
37:50Uh, I won't speak for Jacob, but I, it sounds like he didn't either.
37:55So yeah, to me, there is still like a very clear difference in separation between somebody like to John stripling versus Casey conception.
38:03Even if you want to say, Hey, striplings is playing with a better quarterback this year.
38:08He's on a, what we expect to be a better offense.
38:12Certainly than I think that's at least counteracted. If, if not even more like overruled or overtaken by, yeah, but we know
38:20conception is starting in week one, regardless of, uh, what we find out on the Wednesday injury report, uh, on September 8th
38:27about Mike Evans or George Kittle or Christian McCaffrey.
38:30Like I do know that conception is going to at least be starting in three receiver sets for the Browns.
38:37That's every indication that we've gotten that that's what he's earned.
38:41So I think from either a dynasty or a redraft perspective, if I'm just looking to roll into week one and see
38:49what happens, I still think that a conception is in like a much stronger position than a John stripling is.
38:56Um, but, but I mean, I'm very prepared for either of these guys to prove me wrong or to massively outshine the
39:04other for, or for both to shine. Let's hope that happens.
39:07Okay. I was really hoping this season was going to be different in Tennessee.
39:12I was not incredibly high on cam ward last year.
39:16It was one of the most contested conversations we had between us and chats and comment sections.
39:22Didn't look any better, uh, in week two of the preseason.
39:25Uh, I'm now very sad for all of my Wanda Robinsons, but I'm increasingly sad for the Carnell Tate season.
39:32I had Carnell Tate, my Wider Zero One of the class, not really a big shocker or a big, you know, pounding of the chest.
39:41One of the few, but this looks like it could genuinely be a disaster with the way the season is shaping up.
39:49I've been trying to trade some of the Carnell Tates that I have to kind of move into some other wide receiver
39:56territory in and around where he is. I'm not sure where you guys are on that scale.
40:02Last week, we had people when we talk about, we were talking about Tyson and the injury and how it affects.
40:10We had people in the comment section asking us about trades for guys like Jameson Williams straight up and some, some other
40:17trades in the discord being passed around because they were concerned about the injury injury history and moving off them, et cetera.
40:25This is an injury related. This is just purely situation related and it looks quite horrendous.
40:31I think we can say from this point. So I want to know where you guys are, what your outlook is.
40:38I think the situation can change very quickly. I mean, we see that with wide receivers who get stuck with poor quarterback
40:46play quite often, but I want out. If on, on, if I have him on any team that I'm trying to score
40:53points for this year, I would love to hear where you guys are at.
40:58I've moved Tate a bit down and redraft. I was never that much of a Tate guy.
41:04He was my pre-draft wide receiver three. He, um, I mean, I guess he'd probably be my rookie wide receiver one in dynasty rankings now.
41:13Cause I, I had moved him ahead of lemon due to the draft capital fall and then Tyson's missing half the season.
41:20So I guess he would be my one as of today by default, but I already had some skepticism regarding him.
41:28I wouldn't change his dynasty outlook that much based on the pre-season.
41:32Um, shout out my guy at fantasy kosh. Uh, this was Drake Mays 2025 pre-season stat line, 58% completion percentage, 4.8 yards
41:40per attempt and a 37 PFF passing grade. He then went on to finish one vote away from winning most valuable player last year.
41:48Um, I, I would not like massively shape my opinion of cam ward going into the season based on a couple of drives in pre-season.
41:57Even if he has looked quite horrendous during it, if you want to fair enough, I definitely think that like, if he
42:04is as bad as it looks in pre-season, at least with cam ward, I would say that, yeah, you probably do need
42:12to get out fast because the bottom could completely drop out this year with Carnell Tate.
42:18I wouldn't consider it to be quite the same rush.
42:21Like, even if cam ward is completely incompetent this year, we're pretty sophisticated as a dynasty market these days.
42:28Carnell table, I think have opportunities to prove whether or not he is worthy of investment going forward.
42:34that is pretty independent of cam ward's play. Um, like obviously Carnell Tate could also be terrible and cam ward could be
42:42terrible, but I think that even if cam ward is so bad that Carnell Tate can't score points this year in a
42:49meaningful way, which we don't know to be the case that I think the dynasty market will still look to, okay, well, what are his peripheral stats?
42:59And that's probably how we're going to judge him moving forward with the expectation of they'll probably get a new quarterback if cam ward is truly that bad.
43:08So, um, I, I wouldn't move him down more than a spot or two in dynasty.
43:14I'm going to do a big dynasty tiers update this week.
43:18And I won't have him in a different tier than what I had him before.
43:23Um, or at least I don't expect to, I moved him down about a half, um, or even half or half a round in my redraft rankings though.
43:33So I have changed my outlook a little bit in 2026.
43:37I was already low in redraft in general. Um, I, I just add the only thing I'll say on that is I
43:44think if you are rooting for Wandale Robinson to like get a ton of targets, then Titans dysfunction is actually totally fine with you.
43:53That's kind of how he survived or how, or I shouldn't even say survive.
43:57That's kind of how he thrived in New York was regardless of what the dysfunction on this office is.
44:04If they can't block anybody, if they can't move down the field, at least they can throw, uh, to Wandale Robinson behind
44:12the sticks on every third and eight. So he does get PPR points for doing that.
44:17And that, that is, um, maybe like at cost, the redraft angle I'm most interested in on the Titans for 2026.
44:25Uh, but yeah, I largely agree on Tate and dynasty.
44:28I did move Tyson behind him. I initially had, uh, the two of them back to back in my wide receiver rankings.
44:36I moved Tyson right behind Tate with the hamstring injury just because yeah, the history of wide receivers that miss half their rookie season can't be like amazing.
44:46It can't be like a great thing. That's something I want to adjust to, but yeah, like the idea that we have
44:53to update our opinions of Tate going into the year because it looks like the Titans might be a really bad offense.
45:01And so I, I mean, I've got news for you, buddy.
45:05I, we knew that, uh, back in April, uh, that, that was absolutely priced into my Cornell Tate ranking, uh, in rookie
45:12drafts, it in startups, just an understanding. Yeah, this could take a year or two or three before there's like a competent
45:20offense here to, that is going to immediately lead to him scoring fantasy points.
45:25And yeah, Jacob makes a good point. That is not actually that relevant for a rookie wide receivers.
45:31Dynasty value. Ted Arroa McMillan was not all that amazing for fantasy last year, but he held his value quite nicely, uh,
45:39because he looked awesome and his peripheral stats were awesome.
45:42This happened with Garrett Wilson for years and years.
45:45It happened with Drake London for years and years.
45:49Like it's kind of, it's plowed ground. I would say I'm not.
45:53Yeah. I'm worried about Tate from a dynasty perspective because of, how good or bad cam ward might be this year.
46:00Yeah. I'm looking at it more from, again, a team where I'm definitely up there contending, wanting to score points and very
46:08much willing to use Tate to go and get them more than I was before.
46:13Drake may is not cam ward, right? As a prospect and what we saw as a rookie, let's say.
46:20I don't know if my like previous opinions about cam ward or just kind of making what I've seen so far.
46:27And then not just for me, but from other people, I trust again, I'm not a quarterback scout.
46:33I don't think most people can do it. Um, I think most of us are terrible at it because there are just
46:41so many moving parts to the whole thing. Um, I don't know if it's confirmation bias.
46:46It could be, but for pure point scoring potentials, like if I'm not just purely looking at the dynasty value side of
46:54that, I have no issues trying to use him to go and get somebody we know is going to again, be a kind of a difference maker.
47:03Cause again, a lot of dynasty players just play on the value game.
47:08And I don't know. I just don't trust them on a contending team.
47:12I don't, um, I mean, I don't think, I don't think that it's that that's, that's fine.
47:18I guess. I don't know what, I don't know what his values like now versus what it would be previously, but I
47:26don't think that the expectation ever should have been that if you're taking him at the one Oh two or the one
47:34Oh three this year, that, that that's making a meaningful impact on your lineup anyway.
47:39Like, I mean, he's, he's been like around six redraft pick all year.
47:43He's slipping about around in the redraft markets, but like, you know, that puts him in a similar range in terms of
47:51like expected contribution to your season this year. It's like Jalen Warren.
47:55So I don't, I don't feel like if, if the goal was to maximize the impact to your contending lineup, this year,
48:03like this is one where I do feel like the time to trade the pick was April.
48:09So his dynasty ADP was going in and around players before players like a lava, Garrett Wilson, Brees hall.
48:15Like those are just all players that I would, I would be trying to, to go and grab right.
48:22It's a point score with dynasty value. Like even as a flowers rounds later, if you can get the additional pieces on
48:30top to make that make sense, like that's, that's what I would be doing.
48:35Well, I think you could. I just feel like the problem is you, I get what you're saying.
48:41You're all, you're almost treating him. Like if you're a contender, Carnell Tate is actually just an extra first that I have
48:49on my roster that I can use to like, go buy a player.
48:53I think it's going to actually score points this year.
48:57And I think that's a totally fine and valid way to look at it.
49:01But I guess I just, it has to be a pretty specific roster for me to say it much, much like it
49:09needs to be a specific roster for me to trade my 27 first, I guess it needs to be a specific roster
49:17for me to say, no, I actually have no interest in value appreciation happening on my bench right now.
49:23And I would much rather maximize my points heading into week one.
49:28This might be different six weeks from now. I went with, if I have a clearer idea of, yes, this team is a contender.
49:36It's five in one. And Tate, I now am very certain that Tate's doing nothing for me this year.
49:43Like, I think I'm more open to what you're saying.
49:46I kind of like once we've gotten into the season a little bit, not, not too deep, like not so deep that
49:54it can't help you as much anymore. But yeah, what just, when we know a little bit more about it, also who
50:01the player is that you should be trick, that you should be trading him away for that.
50:07You should be acquiring. I think I like to wait for a little bit more certainty, like with what I'm buying and
50:15with what my team is before making that type of move.
50:19I'd say, I think that's fair. I think there's a fair way to look at it.
50:24Last player to talk about before we get out of here, Jacob, you had hopes that this was going to be a Rashad white kind of season.
50:34There's a lot of people that wanted it to be a JCM kind of season.
50:39JCM dealing with injury. White's been dealing with injury.
50:42All that kind of leading to the fat RB God, having a runway moving forward.
50:47Do you fear that this backfield just ends up becoming a muddled mess?
50:52No, no, I don't. Okay. I remain really high on this backfield.
50:56I'm like in seasonal formats. I'm substantially overweight on, on literally all three of them.
51:01I do think there is an outcome where it's a muddled mess, I guess, but I don't think that that is super likely.
51:09Part of the fun in this too, is that, so I guess it's not fun for them.
51:15So maybe I shouldn't say fun, but Jerome Ford is on season ending.
51:20IR Jeremy Nichols has been projected to start the year potentially on IR.
51:24Those were guys that were pesky veterans with pass catching chops that I'd seen some people fear mongering about.
51:31I mean, at this point, like I think that if the, the backfield has kind of narrowed itself a little bit here
51:39to white JCM and Katron, you mentioned white and JCM are both dealing with an injury.
51:44It doesn't seem like either is particular, or is it necessarily serious?
51:48White seems to me locked into at least a pass catching role.
51:52I don't see the other two fulfilling that. And then, you know, the, the worst case scenario, I guess, is that they
52:00split the rushing stuff evenly between JCM and Katron and everyone becomes not that valuable.
52:05I personally was not that impressed with the Katron Allen preseason experience.
52:10I thought he looked juiceless and slow. So, so I put him on the sheet cause I think he's going to get a lot of buzz.
52:19Most of everything that I'm hearing, hurting hearing out of camp is that they are very impressed with JCM, particularly that they
52:26kind of want him to be the guy that they want him to prove himself in the receiving game.
52:33That's made me a lot more interested in him.
52:36I think it's possible he does that. I think if he doesn't do that, I am still much more comfortable with white as like an all around threat.
52:46Like, I felt like Katron had a chance to have a pounding drum beat.
52:51I wouldn't say it's been that for him. So I think he's an interesting stash for sure.
52:57Um, you know, if you have him, you're probably excited about some of the injury stuff.
53:02He's getting reps with Jaden Daniels right now at practice.
53:06That's fantastic. Um, but to me, I'm still targeting JCM and white first and foremost.
53:11And I, I think Katron is a stash. I also think that if Katron does prove me wrong, I'm guessing, and I'm
53:18hoping that it comes fully at the extensive of JCM or that someone's hurt.
53:23Like I, I just, I just think that a lot of people get really afraid of three person backfields.
53:30I think it's very unlikely that for a sustained period of time this season, all three of them will be healthy and
53:38all three of them will have a role. I think it's going to be a two person backfield or maybe even become
53:45a, a one person backfield with a clear RB two.
53:49And in that case, I still think it's a steal, um, where you're able to get.
53:54Yeah. It really seems like the commanders are hungry for what every report you hear from them.
54:00And I, it's always hard for me to tell when we're this late in the off season, if this is actually just
54:08a result of like a beat writer echo chamber or if it's legitimate.
54:12Like the one I just, the one I just watched on my screen run.
54:17Yeah. That runs also sucks. A lot of these runs suck.
54:21Um, anyway, the preseason, I'm not, I'm not trying to overreact, but I, I just like, he got a lot of carries.
54:29Okay. Yes, he did that. He did, uh, the, what we keep hearing in this preseason is that the commanders want, nice run.
54:37they want bill to win the job, but by when the job, they really mean we want bill to be able to
54:44operate on passing down so that he can just be on the field.
54:49And we don't have to worry about tipping personnel.
54:52Uh, they want to run this much more like under center play action, heavy offense, where the whole point is we are
55:00disguising the run in the past and we can do either, uh, out of any look from any down and distance and, and all that.
55:08The reason that they seem to want bill to win the job and to, to like get up to snuff in those
55:16passing situations is because he's the more explosive back in their view.
55:20And probably in my view. So I do think if you play that scenario out, either way you play it out of
55:28either bill succeeds or bill doesn't, the bill doesn't succeed.
55:31End of that is Rashad white is the, the default kind of, uh, not bell cow, but like most valuable back for
55:39fantasy, uh, where JCM gets more of like the situational, uh, carries and doesn't have a passing game role.
55:46Right. So I, I think either way, you're probably getting a good, um, like fantasy producer one way or the other, or
55:53at least like a fantasy relevant producer, whichever way that gets split.
55:58It wouldn't really make sense for it to be split three ways, just because the, it really, it sounds like the only
56:05reason they would split it is just out of necessity.
56:09They don't want to split it. They want one guy that can, uh, not tip their personnel.
56:15So yeah, like a full on committee doesn't really make sense to me.
56:19There's not been really any like positive words about Katron from the team, at least that have picked up that much traction or that have crossed my radar.
56:29Uh, so I, yeah, I'm not really viewing Katron as like, he had a great preseason and this is like now, and
56:37that he's now a factor in this backfield outside of, we get like an unpleasant surprise on September 8th with the industry
56:44report, or with the injury report for, for either white or JCM or both.
56:49But yeah, I mean, the Katron thing, I think it still makes sense for the reasons it made sense as a rookie
56:57draft play, which is the guy who has legitimate college volume.
57:01He's like a real boy rusher. He's plausibly a goal line type profile on a team that doesn't really have an obvious other one.
57:09Um, and it's an ambiguous backfield. So all that stuff still applies, but everything that Ryan just said about what per reporting
57:17the team is looking for in their backfield, it doesn't really suit Katron that well.
57:22I mean, the two things he emphasized is they want a running back who can be an all situations player in the run and pass game.
57:31And two, they'd prefer if that player is explosive.
57:34Um, I mean, Katron has, has no real past game experience and is not explosive.
57:39So I, I find it pretty unlikely that he's going to fit either of those, if those two are priorities.
57:46Um, uh, I guess like to Tom's earlier point, the absolute nightmare scenario is that like some point during the season, Katron
57:54becomes like a guy who takes five carries a week.
57:57And three of them are at the goal line and he's like an unstartable Mike Tolbert.
58:03Um, but that who also renders the other two unstartable.
58:06I was thinking more like a Sean Tucker level annoyance.
58:10Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of Sean Tucker, I mean, different, we're not on the rookie show, but, um, that annoyance might be
58:18out of Tampa Bay soon per report. Yeah. Saw that.
58:21And Hey, we're going to talk about that on the live, but you can go back and watch, uh, when you're done
58:29watching this video, I would highly suggest doing it.
58:32I will say my favorite with all the talk about Katron and you guys nailing it.
58:37They want a more explosive player who can catch passes.
58:41My favorite like backend stash players, Robert Henry right now in that backfield, because while everyone's talking about the other three, I
58:49kind of want the guy that most people aren't discussing.
58:52And Robert Henry five, nine, right? One 96. He's at a UTSA.
58:56And I think, you know, not a, obviously not a highly touted prospect at all, but has looked explosive.
59:03Uh, definitely has more past game experience than Katron does.
59:06And kind of feels like he fits the mold a little bit better.
59:11Maybe for what they're looking for is Ryan, when you were mentioning not tipping plays.
59:16So we often talk about getting the handcuff wrong when it comes to being dynasty managers.
59:22I like Robert Henry's throw his hat into the ring, into the mix.
59:26If something does happen, I feel like he can maybe more seamlessly fit that role.
59:31I am just concerned that they're going to look at Katron and be like, well, like we saw the first graph we
59:39put up, people talking about, well, it hasn't lost any yards.
59:43He's not going to be a net negative for you.
59:46It might be a net negative in that he doesn't provide much.
59:51Right? So I like Robert Henry. If you're looking for a sleeper or a backend to your roster stash, he's definitely somebody I want.
59:59There's some fun stuff with Henry's profile. 4.22 yards after contact per attempt last year.
60:04That was one of the highest marks in the class.
60:08Above average and missed tackles force as well. Um, like for about five seconds, I almost got really excited about finding a running back sleeper in the class.
60:17And then you look at the rest of the profile and you're like, Oh, he played at UT San Antonio and he
60:25was like 24 years old and he has no receiving profile.
60:29But I do think he has like some legitimate juice as a rusher.
60:33So, um, as a, as an end of bench stash, I definitely have time for, for Bob Henry.
60:40Good old Bob Henry. All right. That's going to do it for this show.
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61:14This episode, we're going to be talking about the, uh, kind of more feverishly talked about than expected Raiders wide receiver camp
61:22battle, which I didn't realize was an, as strong opinions as there are out there, but we're going to talk about that this week.
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