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2:06No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
2:10Off to the races, and he stays on his feet.
2:13Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:16Happy Friday, everybody. Unless you have Kyle Pitts. We're like Kyle The Pitts.
2:20Am I right, Dave? Am I right? Kyle H.
2:23Pitts is the name that we're going with. Kyle Pitts.
2:26I don't get it. Kyle H. The H stands for he's the.
2:30H-T. It can't be H-T. Okay. Well, anyway, the Falcons with a romp 35-14 over the Packers, and we'll talk about that.
2:37And honestly, both tight ends struggle. We won't let Tucker Craft completely off the hook.
2:41Four catches for 26 yards, but he did have eight targets at least on a day where Jordan Love threw 53 passes.
2:48We've got starters sit for seven more games today.
2:51Arizona at San Francisco. Minnesota at Tampa Bay. Philadelphia at Chicago.
2:55New Orleans at Las Vegas. Seattle at Washington. Seattle's in Washington.
2:58What's that mean? Baltimore at Dallas. And the game of the week, Tennessee at the Giants.
3:03The Wondale Robinson revenge game. Good morning, Jamie. The Brian Dayball revenge game.
3:07The Brian Callahan revenge game. I mean, there's just revenge games all over the place.
3:12And the Baltimore and Dallas game isn't even in Dallas.
3:15Yes, it's true. It's in Brazil. We got a new background?
3:19Dallas. No. What do you mean? For me? No, in the show.
3:23Oh, yeah, yeah. So, do you know who the.
3:25I thought maybe you were trying to say, Jamie, that there's something different about Adam today.
3:30No, Adam looks great. Do you know? Yeah. Do you know who the.
3:35I'm sorry I'm late, by the way. I was looking for Kyle Pitts.
3:39Well. Oh, Adam found him. That makes one of you.
3:42So, do you know who the special teams coach for the Titans is, by the way?
3:47The special teams coach for the Titans. It is Jim Fossil's son, John Fossil.
3:51Nice. Oh, dude. Bones? He's been around forever. More ties to the Giants.
3:55Okay, let's get into the game. 35-14 Falcons. Got an email.
3:59I'm sure you guys have gotten the question, too.
4:02Can I drop Kyle Pitts? What's the answer, Dave Richard?
4:05You should have never drafted Kyle Pitts. That's the answer.
4:08And I would be inclined to see what tight ends develop this weekend, and then you can make a pivot after that.
4:15I never like to spike cut anybody. But in the event that you do see a tight end on waivers who you
4:22like better, maybe you already have a tight end on your team that you like better than Kyle Pitts.
4:28Yeah, you can move on from Kyle Pitts. I think it's obviously not a bad idea to find another option, and if
4:35you have to drop Kyle Pitts, you drop Kyle Pitts.
4:38It would be a little bit different if this was week two as opposed to week four because this is the Falcons' offense now.
4:46Yeah. And so now you have a quarterback that's competent.
4:49Now you have an offense that clearly is going to be successful or at least has the ability to be successful.
4:55So if this was week two, I would be more inclined to say, okay, give it one more week.
5:01Let's see what this looks like for Kyle Pitts with Michael Penix.
5:05But it's week four, and you've gotten three zeros out of your tight end essentially or combined five points for the season, whatever it is.
5:13You have to find another option just to cover yourself because it could be bad.
5:18So if that's the move – like I have Kyle Pitts.
5:21It's an 18-team league. Darren Waller was on waivers.
5:24I dropped somebody just to pick up Darren Waller.
5:27He was the only tight end that has any significance to me at least.
5:31If Arande Gadsden's out there, if Hunter Henry's still out there, if – Aaron's Ferguson and you're – Ferguson's a little bit
5:38tougher because I think that's more short-term than long-term.
5:41I agree. But you're streaming at that point. Yeah, yeah.
5:44He's definitely in the conversation. Pat Fryermuth as well.
5:47So any of these guys that have the ability to give you a different option and you can carry them, that's the
5:54benefit of seeing this disappointment on Thursday night is that you can cover yourself.
5:59For potentially the rest of the season. But I wouldn't be surprised either way.
6:03But I wouldn't be surprised if Pitts starts to get a lot more productive because that's – Tony Gonzalez talked about this
6:10on the post-game show and obviously he's a tight end and they were giving him a hard time about it on the telecast.
6:17He said that's – if they can get that wrinkle going, like this offense could be unstoppable based on what they looked like last night.
6:25Now granted, the run game is not going to be as good as it was.
6:30But Drake London's last seven games with Michael Penix have been absolutely amazing.
6:34Like you could be looking at wide receiver three, if not maybe wide receiver one if this continues.
6:40And you know what? Bijon's capable of. So if they can develop that second option in the passing game, like that could be pretty cool to see.
6:48So hopefully it's Pitts. We're up to four of 13 games in Kyle Pitts' career where he's had, I think, double-digit fantasy points with Penix under center.
6:57Four of 13. Not a good rate. It's – yeah.
7:00And there were times – hold on. There were times last night, and I know, Adam, you're going to talk about this, where Pitts was open.
7:08Well, let's show it. So go for it. All right.
7:11Here's the first one. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Yeah, Sam.
7:14So I put a little smiley face there. But that's Drake London at the top.
7:19Is that what that is? Kyle Pitts in the slot.
7:22They're both – this is such bad coverage by the Packers.
7:26They're both open. Oh, this was the big play, yeah.
7:29This was the 68-yard catch by Drake London, who, by the way, is not really that fast.
7:34No, he ran down pretty quickly. But Kyle Pitts – I mean, that could have been a huge play to Kyle Pitts.
7:41Instead, it was a huge play to Drake London.
7:44Here, let's go to the next one, Sam. Kyle Pitts makes such a – has such a good route here that he makes – Things are written there.
7:53He makes the defensive back fall down on his face, and he's wide open.
7:57And I even have him, quote, going loser. Probably didn't say that.
8:01The ball's already out of Penix. Yeah, but I was – but he burned this guy.
8:06So look how covered Drake London is. That was a 40-yard completion of Drake London.
8:11So I can't really blame Penix there. But, you know, look, I only illustrated this.
8:16There were some opportunities, but there really wasn't enough.
8:19And he didn't run that many routes. The only – Penix – or Penix went through 25 passes.
8:24Personally, I'd like to hold on to him for another week.
8:28If you buy into the whole Stefanski thing – I know I didn't draft any Kyle Pitts except for the one league
8:35I share with Heath when we started him yesterday.
8:38But I don't know. If you buy into the whole Stefanski thing, you're going to get a better game script than this.
8:45They won by 21 points. They barely had to throw.
8:48So he still should be the number two target on – well, I don't know.
8:52Maybe that's Bijan. But he should come close to being the number two target on the team.
8:58Let's talk about the Packers here. We have three running backs who stink.
9:02And a lot of concerns. They were – They have an offensive line that stinks.
9:07Yeah. It might be the worst in the NFL.
9:10It's an issue. Hopefully they'll get Aaron Banks back.
9:12He's – I don't think that's a long-term thing, but I'm not sure.
9:16But Matthew Golden and Christian Watson, you pretty much just going to start them every week?
9:22Yeah. Because guess what the game script is going to be every week for the Green Bay Packers?
9:27Yeah. It's going to be, let's run the ball.
9:30Oh, cool. Two yards. One yard. Zero yards. Two yards.
9:33It's third and eight. No, sorry. Third and 18.
9:36Running back draw. There's a five-yard play. And everything else is going to be passing.
9:41And these receivers are great. Like, you want to talk about dudes who are getting open.
9:46Watson's getting open. Golden is getting open. And also making tight catches.
9:50This is where the Packers are going. We've been waiting a long time for this.
9:54I wish they would involve Tucker Craft a little bit more.
9:58And they tried to, to a degree. And Tucker Craft just couldn't come through.
10:02But – They had some bad drops. Yeah, yeah.
10:05Yeah. I think that Watson and Golden are must starts from here on out.
10:10And that kind of puts love in that minimum low-end QB1 territory.
10:13They could not have a better schedule. We'll see.
10:16Tampa Bay's pass defense has been better than we expected so far.
10:20But after this week – so it's week four through eight – or four through seven is at Tampa Bay, Chicago, Dallas, at Detroit.
10:28I mean, it's awesome for the passing game. You should – you would think.
10:32And then last question, Jamie. Are we dropping Tucker Craft?
10:35It's similar to Pitts. You know, a little bit more favorable production so far.
10:40But, you know, when – I was thinking about this last night.
10:43Are we falling – are we getting stuck in the mid-round tight end dilemma that we had for years again this year
10:50because of – it's a little wonky because, you know, you could say Loveland because he was around four pick based on ADP.
10:58But Loveland, not great. Craft, not great. Pitts, not great.
11:01Fano was in this group, not great so far.
11:04You have Goddard Hurt. He was at the tail end of this group.
11:08You know, and then we're getting some great performances of the late guys with Kelsey and hopefully Kittle.
11:13Likely. And likely. You know, so depending on, like, what ADP you look at, it could be just those mid-round tight ends suck again.
11:21Yeah, there's two others, though. There's Laporta and Warren.
11:24Yeah, I mean it's not always going to be 100%, but, you know, we have a strong group of guys that are just struggling right now.
11:32So, again, like if you're upset with craft production, find another option if you can drop somebody this week.
11:38You know, so if you ran to pick up Tank Bigsby or you ran to pick up – I wouldn't do it
11:45with Jonah Coleman, but, you know, you picked up Emmanuel Wilson or one of these backup running backs that, you know, may
11:52not play and you feel like you're comfortable dropping those guys to get better production at tight end, there are a lot
11:59of other options available to pivot to. Okay. That's it for Thursday Night Football.
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12:0811 a.m. To 1 p.m. Eastern to answer your starter set questions.
12:12I guarantee you cannot find a show that answers more starter set questions than ours.
12:17I don't know if I'm allowed to share how many questions were asked, but it will blow your mind if you do.
12:24I would venture to guess between all of us doing Ask FFT and then all the questions that we answer on the
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12:50Eastern. God, you guys are terrible. Hey, I wouldn't be surprised if it's four figures.
12:55Yeah, no, it would be. Let's get to some news and notes.
12:59We have an army of people answering questions. Sam Darnold, you know – I cannot wait for Dan to see you in your glasses.
13:06There's only one reason I'm wearing it here. Yeah.
13:09Yeah. It's not funny anymore to make fun of you for it.
13:13Sam Darnold practiced in full, which is great because he's facing the commanders.
13:17He scored 35 points against them on like 24 pass attempts last year, and we're still expecting Case Keenum to start for the Bears.
13:25At running back, a judge denied a request to permanently seal evidence in the Josh Jacobs case, which maybe means that it's
13:31more likely that the NFL could get a look at the video evidence, but we still don't know, so don't know.
13:38Travis A. Chan limited with a hamstring still. Two limiteds is probably a good sign.
13:43I mean, we're still ranking Travis A. Chan right now.
13:46Saquon Barkley practiced. Great news. Tank Bigsby did not, but Saquon Barkley looks like he will play.
13:51Same with J.K. Dobbins and R.J. Harvey, but not necessarily Jonah Coleman, who still missed practice with the ankle injury.
13:58Kyle Monongai missed practice with a knee injury. That was the first practice session of the week where they had to give
14:05a report, so we'll see about Monongai, who's had 10 carries and two catches in each of his first two games.
14:11Rico Dowdle missed practice. Jalen Warren was limited. Tony Pollard practiced, but Tajay Spears did not, so we'll talk about that in
14:18a moment with one question for each game. It'll be about Tony Pollard.
14:22Aaron Jones did practice. He got back out there, so that was a positive sign at Tampa Bay.
14:28And Jadarian Price limited in practice. A wide receiver, not great news.
14:32Adam Schefter reporting that A.J. Brown expected to miss six to eight weeks from the original time frame of the injury, not four to six.
14:40Puka Nakua not expecting him, right? No. At this point, no.
14:43And we're not expecting Nico Collins. And right now, we're not expecting Zay Flowers, although he will travel with the team to Brazil.
14:50Already did. Okay, there you go. He's there. Did they land?
14:54I believe so. Oh, it's a long flight. Anyways, Zay Flowers hasn't practiced.
14:58He did travel. We'll see what that means. Devontae Smith missed practice.
15:02Are you worried about this, Dave? Devontae Smith missing practice with a hamstring injury?
15:06A little bit. Let's just see what happens on Friday.
15:09Right. Remember, it's a Monday game, so Saturday is what matters.
15:13Ah, you're right. Saturday. Some of the reports were he was warming up.
15:17He was jogging around, just didn't have pads on, so it wasn't like he completely sat.
15:22He had in their final drive, I think it was.
15:25It was a big catch. And it looked as if he was waving somebody to get him off the field.
15:32Oh, really? But they were in a hurry up, and he stayed on the field.
15:36Oh, I didn't see that. Okay, well, that's not great.
15:39Michael Pittman limited. Lad McConkie full. Malik Nabors expects to play.
15:43Mike Evans mispractice. That's two mispractices for Mike Evans.
15:46Jamie, are we worried about that one? About Mike Evans?
15:49Yeah. You know, I think for what their situation is, for what he's dealt with so far going back to camp, like
15:56an older player who's been banged up already. Yeah, I'm a little nervous.
16:00Jalen Coker mispracticed. We previewed that game yesterday, Dave.
16:03Should we be worried about Jalen Coker playing? Again, if he practices on Friday, I'm good with it.
16:09If he doesn't, then you have to be significantly worried about it.
16:12Same with DJ Moore. So DJ Moore. Same with DJ Moore.
16:16So Coker and Moore, correct me if I'm wrong, they were limited on Wednesday and they missed on Thursday.
16:22So yes, Friday is a big day. And our mailbag is going to be later on Friday today.
16:27We usually do it in the mornings today. We're doing it at 2.45-ish p.m.
16:32Eastern. So we'll have all these practice reports by the time we do that.
16:36And Adonai Mitchell was limited with a finger injury.
16:39Come on, finger injury? He'll be fine. That's new on the injury report too.
16:44It is. You don't know how bad the finger injury is.
16:47Yeah, it's true. It's true. All right, I'm done with Brock Bowers expected to play.
16:52Dallas got her mispracticed. Terrence Ferguson was limited. Kobe Park is a mispractice.
16:56Chick-O-Konga mispractice. That's it for that. Oh, let's try one question for each game.
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19:35We saved all the good ones yesterday. You don't have to listen anymore, folks.
19:39But if you are going to listen, here we go.
19:42Arizona's at San Francisco. Starter sent Michael Wilson. Who should we give this one to?
19:47How about my man Jamie Eisenberg? Low end starter in three receiver leagues.
19:51This offense has not clearly looked like we thought it was going to look through the first two weeks of the season.
19:58Mostly they were playing with a lead in week one, you know, 37 pass attempts for Jacoby Brissett, but he would have
20:05liked to see a little bit more production for the three main guys.
20:09McBride had a great game. And then there's this Kendrick Bourne situation that we got to keep an eye on just taking
20:16production away from the other receivers while Marvin Harrison continues to struggle.
20:20So I would prefer to avoid Michael Wilson, but if he has a good game, I'll be moderately encouraged.
20:26I'll go the other way on this. I've got him ranked as a low end number three wide receiver, and I think I've got him ranked too low.
20:35I think I know what the game script is going to be for Arizona here, and they're not playing Seattle.
20:41They're playing San Francisco. This is a better matchup for them.
20:44And I think Michael Wilson can end up being solid.
20:48I'm not going to say that he's going to be Matthew Golden or Christian Watson or Drake London, but he's certainly going
20:54to be a lot better than Kyle Pitts. So I'm kind of encouraged by the target volume that he's had so far.
21:01And I think he'll see at least seven targets in this game against the Niners.
21:06That would be encouraging. And this has nothing to do with Marvin Harrison.
21:10He just continues to suck every time Marvin Harrison's on the field.
21:14Well, he didn't suck in week one. He had a good game.
21:18I mean, he wasn't great. He was okay. Yeah, yeah.
21:21He was good enough to start in week one in a PPR league, I think.
21:26I don't think anybody's expecting like the outburst that he had without MHJ last year when he was getting like 28 fantasy points per game.
21:34He was ridiculous. But can we pencil him in for 12?
21:37I think he can get around 12. Okay. He was wide open in the end zone, by the way, in week two against Seattle.
21:45And Jacoby Brissett was just running, scrambling and didn't see him.
21:48I'm sorry, Jamie. I cut you off. What'd you say?
21:51Oh, I said I'll take the under, but I'd say 10.
21:55All right. It was 10.6 points in week one for Michael Wilson.
21:59Minnesota's at Tampa Bay. Dave, assuming Aaron Jones plays, who's the best running back in this game?
22:04Bucky Irving or Aaron Jones? It's Bucky. He's going to be the top one here.
22:09I still think that the Bucs offense should run through him for now.
22:13And I think it's a good way to kind of call the dogs off with that Vikings blitz rate that they have
22:20by running the ball, delayed handoffs, screens to Bucky.
22:23That's what I think they should do. I don't know if that's exactly what they're going to do.
22:28The Bears had some moderate success running against Minnesota last week.
22:32A little bit easier for Minnesota to defend that in the rain versus a normal type of weather game.
22:38And Bucky's been pretty good. So I think he's the one that ends up doing more, certainly in half and full PPR.
22:45And Aaron Jones, you've got to worry about a little bit because of the knee injury, but he practiced on Thursday.
22:51So, okay, maybe he doesn't get 100 yards rushing against Tampa.
22:55He might not even get 75. He's a low end number two running back this week, but still a top 24 guy.
23:02So two things about both these guys. First off, can we get a catch for Aaron Jones?
23:07It's a little surprising that he has no catches through two games.
23:11Zach Robinson. So I don't know if he actually said this.
23:14He met with the media yesterday, but it sounds like he alluded to this.
23:19I didn't see anything quoted from him, but Pewter Report does a great job following that team, covering that team.
23:25Apparently, they're going to put Bucky Irvin on a snap count.
23:29And the report said that there's going to be games where they're not going to limit it, but they want to make
23:36sure he's healthy for the majority of the season.
23:38So something to keep in mind with him, something to keep in mind with Kenneth Gamewell, who's been bad or could be Sean Tucker.
23:46But I was a little surprised when I saw that, just given how well Bucky Irving has performed so far.
23:52Okay. When push comes to shove, you need to win a football game.
23:57I feel like coaches don't really commit to those, but that's interesting.
24:00Thank you for that. Well, I mean, it could be early in the game, you know, where they're taking him off the
24:07field a little bit and saving him for the end of the game.
24:11Yeah. Well, he's played on third down more than I anticipated, and that could be an easy thing of just taking him off the field there.
24:20Philadelphia is at Chicago. Jamie, would you start any Bears?
24:23Swift for sure. I think you're, you know, especially if there's no Mononga, that's huge for him.
24:28Oh, yeah, yeah. For sure. Otherwise, I think you're talking about maybe as a number three receiver for Luther Burden.
24:34And I would prefer to get away from Rowan doing Zane Colston, Loveland.
24:39And then Khalifa Raymond is still just a stashed candidate to see what happens.
24:43You know, I think the one thing that we would, we could potentially get out of this game is Case Keenum is not as mobile as Caleb Williams.
24:52And does he stay in the pocket and give those guys opportunities to make some plays?
24:57So that would be the encouraging thing for me coming out of this is do we get some positive production from the
25:04pass catchers because of just the pocket presence. A lot of P's there.
25:08Pocket presence of Case Keenum. All right. New Orleans is at Las Vegas, Dave.
25:12Travis, A-chan or Trey Tucker? Who's a better flex?
25:15I will nervously say A-chan is the better flex.
25:18But it's a close call. Tucker just, they're both wildly inconsistent.
25:22I don't think A-chan is the problem. I don't think his game is the problem in New Orleans.
25:27I'm worried about the offensive line. I'm worried about the workload.
25:31It would make sense after watching the film if this go to Alvin Kamara and say, listen, we'll get you a few
25:38touches, but you're not going to help us win like you used to help us win back in the day.
25:44I don't know if they're going to do that.
25:47And so that makes me nervous to say, oh, yeah, start Travis A-chan.
25:51He's going to be just fine. But I do think he's still their goal line guy.
25:56And I think he's got a better chance to score than Trey Tucker.
26:00And Brock Bowers is expected back. And if Bowers is expected back, I worry about just how many targets will be there for Trey Tucker in this game.
26:09But for A-chan facing the Raiders, their run defense so far has been pretty solid against Devon A-chan and Amari and Hampton.
26:16They're giving up 3.83 yards per carry to running backs.
26:19This is the Raiders. And they were actually solid against running backs last year.
26:23They gave up a lot of touchdowns. But it's like you see Raiders.
26:28It's not exactly an amazing matchup so far. Right.
26:30Seattle. I do respect the Raiders pass rush. And obviously they have Max Crosby.
26:35But it's more than just Max Crosby. They're really doing a great job of getting into the quarterback.
26:41And I think that that's going to be an issue that the Saints are going to have to deal with.
26:47Especially without Kelvin Banks. Like their left tackle is gone for the foreseeable future.
26:51And that's going to be a problem for New Orleans.
26:54Seattle's at Washington. Jamie, is it going to be Jadarian Price, SZN, this week?
26:59Washington's run defense has been good. You know, so it's tough to say that it's a slam dunk plus he's not 100%.
27:06So I would say more of a flex. It's, you know, it was a little frustrating last week that he got hurt.
27:13Because again, he looked like he was running well.
27:16And then, you know, you got all that garbage time production for Emmanuel Wilson.
27:20So I'm still going to start him in the leagues where I don't have better options.
27:25And that's obviously a wide list of running backs you can compare him to.
27:29But as you see where we have him ranked, if you're watching on YouTube, it's 27 or 28 for all of us.
27:36Sports line's a little bit more encouraged at 21.
27:39So low end number two running back or flex in this matchup.
27:43So definitely starting like Aaron Jones over him. Yeah, if he's healthy.
27:47But those guys are close. Dave, we got Baltimore at Dallas.
27:50We had Jake Ferguson with two touchdowns last week.
27:53And Mark Andrews has had some opportunities but hasn't really come through.
27:57Which tight end do you prefer? I'm watching you to get ready for the music and the big song for this game.
28:04I like Andrews better. I think he's easier to start over Ferguson in full PPR.
28:09I feel like Ferguson is still a touchdown or bust tight end.
28:12Not enough volume for him on a week-to-week basis.
28:15Whereas Andrews, especially if there's no Zay Flowers, this is the short underneath easy button that you see Lamar Jackson throwing to.
28:22Four targets on third downs last week. I think that continues here.
28:26Oh, no. I can't believe I just did that.
28:29Another game of the week you screwed up? I can't believe I just did that.
28:34At least he's trying. Hold on. Let's try it again.
28:37I'll say it again. Four targets on third downs last week.
28:40I always love it when I know what you're doing.
28:43Oh, man. The Portuguese is so much harder than the Spanish.
28:47Wow. Dave had it nailed. He texted me. He said, we're going to get it in Portuguese, aren't we?
28:53Yeah. Finally got something right. Oh, man. That was terrible.
28:56I'm sorry. Nah. Well, I think it was good.
28:59So let's just get this right. You had a terrible call in week one on the game of the week.
29:05You missed the game of the week in week two.
29:08And then I got tested. No, you did not.
29:11I got back to the morning for the season.
29:14You had the Giants. No, no. You missed game two.
29:17You can't do it on Monday. You missed it.
29:20Yeah. Sunday night. And then you completely butchered the music.
29:23I play the Fantasy Cops music. We heard. You've only been doing this for 19 years.
29:28Learned that last week. 19 years. Tennessee's at the Giants.
29:31Jamie, Wondale Robinson revenge game. And Tony Pollard or Cam Scadaboo if Tajay Spears misses the game?
29:37Still Scadaboo, but I think it's a good opportunity for Tony Pollard, especially if Spears is out.
29:42So he'll be, you know, I already moved him up a few spots in the rankings, and he may be close to
29:49a top 24 guy by the time we get to Sunday.
29:53I'd like to see it for Wondale. It's just hard to buy it.
29:57You know, the targets haven't really been there for him combined through the first two weeks of the season.
30:03Week two was a little bit more disappointing than week one.
30:06So, you know, I think if you're looking at Wondale, it's more of a desperation play.
30:11Not in the top 48 for me right now.
30:14Okay. Question from the chat. Well, Adam, this is like the Chargers version of hosting.
30:19That's great. If Spears were out, would you start Tony Pollard over Jadarian Price?
30:23Yeah, that's, you know, I was thinking about that when you showed Price's ranking.
30:28So it'd be right in that range, you know, 23 through 30.
30:32Right now he's at 30. So 23 through like 26, 27.
30:35Okay. And then Mel. Is that what the kids are saying these days?
30:3926, 27? Mel said. I've got Pollard. I have Price Pollard back to back and Jeremiah Love right behind both of them.
30:46Okay. Mel said I went too fast on the tight ends, which I did.
30:50I was trying to get through it. But just the news and notes on the tight ends was that Terrence Ferguson was limited and Colby Parkinson mispracticed.
30:59Chigo Conqua mispracticed. Brock Bowers is expected to play and Dallas Goddard mispracticed.
31:03Sorry about that. All right. Can they just put Dallas Goddard on NIR already?
31:08Yeah. What the heck, man? Oh, they think he's going to be back before four weeks.
31:13Oh, that sucks. Yeah. I can confirm that you completely butchered that Portuguese so bad.
31:17LOL. Signed a fluent speaker. Yeah, it was tough because the word yeah, I like I put in the translation.
31:24That's the game of the week. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah appears to be Eiso IE or something.
31:29That's like a lot. So I'm just going to type.
31:32Let's see. Yeah. Seam. Why did it do seem for the first time I typed it in?
31:38It was so horrible. Google translator. All right. Here we go.
31:41Arizona and San Francisco. This will clarify. It sucks that he doesn't go on NIR for your fantasy rosters.
31:47Right. Right. Right. Oh, right. You're not saying that it sucks that he's correct.
31:51The Cardinals had such a horrible game in week two against Seattle.
31:55They only ran 47 plays. They had the ball for fewer than 24 minutes.
32:00San Francisco's defense has been very good against the jet lag Rams and the Dolphins.
32:04This might be a tough matchup also. And you guys are trying to avoid Jacoby Brissett.
32:09Jacoby Brissett or Gino Smith this week? Gino. It's Gino.
32:13Okay. I was just, that was part of the reason why I was a little late.
32:18I was doing where the finishes, where the Saints and Lions, where the Saints and Bills finished against the Lions.
32:24I'll share that with you when we get to that game.
32:27Actually, if Jacoby ranked two spots higher than Gino.
32:30Wait, what is it, Jamie? What were you looking up?
32:33In each of the first two weeks, where the teams against the Lions finished in terms of their fantasy points.
32:40Oh, gotcha. Tyler Shuck was the sixth best quarterback that week and Josh Allen was number one.
32:45Right. Remember, the Cowboys were like that, where all but, I think, three quarterbacks last year finished top 12 against the Cowboys.
32:52Yeah, Gino has a chance for a really good game this week.
32:56It's so annoying. Jane Daniels had 16 points in the first half last week.
33:00All right. Running backs here in the Arizona-San Francisco game.
33:03We talked about Jeremiah Love. You like Love? Dave, who's the best running back in this game?
33:09Oh, it's a tough one. Okay. Start McCaffrey. Start Brock Purdy over just, who would you start over Brock Purdy?
33:15Everybody except Josh Allen. Yeah, he's number two. But he's not number two.
33:19He's second best. Of course, I asked Dave, who would you start over Brock Purdy?
33:24And he said everybody except Josh Allen, which means Allen and Purdy are your two lowest ranked quarterbacks this week.
33:30That's not what I meant. Start McCaffrey. Kalon Black.
33:33I'm curious to see what the split looks like this week if Black's healthier.
33:38But yeah, you can't really trust him. So then, Jamie, it comes down to the wide receivers in this game.
33:44And how would you rank them with Evans in?
33:47How would you rank them with Evans out? Evans, Debo, Wilson, Bourne, Harrison.
33:51Debo, Wilson. Bourne. Bourne, Harrison. Is there another 49ers wide receiver that could step up as a deep sleeper?
33:57I mean, they like Jacob Cowan. We'll see if he does anything.
34:01There's another guy that there's... Hawkins, maybe? Or am I thinking too far back in the past?
34:06Ayuk? I mean, it could be Brandon Cooks if they decide to elevate him.
34:10All right. It's nobody that we're going to be starting.
34:14Jeremiah Love just outside the top 24. Jeremiah Love or Emeka Abuka this week?
34:18Abuka. Abuka. There's only one card in the light I prefer to start, and that's McBride.
34:23McBride. Yeah. And then Kittle. So do we think that we can just safely...
34:28If Evans doesn't play, I think I can't really make a case against Kittle.
34:32But if Evans does play, this is still a guy who has nine targets in two games, who ran...
34:38He ran 62% of the routes in the first three quarters of week two, which is much better than...
34:44Remember, they blew out the Dolphins. Much better than 48% in week one.
34:48But Dave, is George Kittle a must start now?
34:51I would start him this week. It really depends on who else you have at tight end.
34:56But I think that we're going to... I think they have to use him if Evans doesn't play.
35:02It just makes so much sense to put him on the field.
35:06Even if it's 75% of the routes, that's good enough for me to put him in your lineup.
35:11Call him a top eight tight end, but not a top five tight end.
35:16But if you... Let's say you were one of the knuckleheads like me that took Colson Loveland early and then swiped Kittle
35:23in the mid-late rounds because of his injury, lowering his value, there's no question I'm starting Kittle over Loveland this week.
35:29I don't think you go from Kittle to Gadsden or Fryermuth or Terrence Ferguson or any of these guys just yet.
35:36Correct. I didn't really ask you where you have Evans.
35:39Jamie has Evans 26th. We'll come back to Kittle in a second.
35:43I have some questions from the chat. Dave, you have him 15th?
35:47Yeah, I've got him ranked like he's going to be fine.
35:50And that if he's out there... He said he was fine after the game last week.
35:55I know the 49ers said that they needed to manage him.
35:59I think Friday is going to tell the tale.
36:02If he practices and looks fine on Friday, you should expect him to play.
36:06And yeah, there's a chance that maybe they limit his reps and I've got him a little too high.
36:12But against Arizona and their secondary, I think they've got nothing but backups playing corner now.
36:17I think they lost... Literally, their starting top three cornerbacks are out.
36:21And if that's the case, then it's all systems go for any wide receiver in San Francisco who you've heard of and
36:28you know is going to play at least 50% of the snaps.
36:32All right. Questions from the chat here. Evans or Jalen Waddell?
36:35I'd have an entire. Waddell for Jamie, Evans for Dave.
36:38Wonder if McDuffie's going to shadow Waddell like he did.
36:42I worry about that quite a bit because McDuffie in his pass has played in the slot.
36:47And he's been in the slot as recently as last year a decent amount.
36:51So I think that you've got to lower expectations for it.
36:55You're still going to start him, but it's going to be kind of like a mid to late range.
37:01You're talking about Waddell. Waddell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I like Evans better.
37:05Brissette or Herbert? Herbert. I think I have Herbert higher.
37:08Pick two. Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Casey Concepcion. I'd say Concepcion.
37:12I think I'd say Godwin. Purdy or Hertz? Purdy.
37:15Brock. Kittle or Kelsey? Kelsey. Kelsey. Kittle or Warren?
37:18Warren. Warren. Kittle or... What if it's Jalen Warren?
37:20Then Warren. Kittle or Waller? Probably Warren. Either way.
37:23Kittle. Kittle or Jawan Johnson? Kittle. Georgie, Porgy, Puddin' Pie.
37:26Actually, if Rico Dowdle plays, I think I probably would start Kittle over Jalen Warren.
37:31Not that that was the question, but it'd be a tough call.
37:35Yes, it would be a tougher call. Niners DST.
37:38Fifth for Jamie. Tenth for Dave, I believe. And 22nd for Heath.
37:42Interesting. All right. Minnesota's at Tampa Bay. Stat of the game, or we could call it the analysis of the game.
37:48What the heck is going on with Baker Mayfield?
37:51We kind of talked about it earlier in the week, and the stats back it up.
37:56He's holding onto the ball so much longer than he had been in the previous three seasons.
38:01He's scrambling more. He's throwing the ball. His deep rate percentage, in terms of how often he throws deep, a career high right now.
38:09His sack rate is way up. The air yards are way up.
38:13He's basically, it's like hero ball all the time.
38:16And he just needs to stay in the pocket and throw to open Chris Godwin.
38:20Take what's available. But that's what we've seen, and that's what the stats say about Baker Mayfield.
38:26It needs to change. It's just too crazy right now.
38:29It's like street, it's backyard football. Anyway, Jamie, we're not starting Baker Mayfield.
38:33No. I'd rather start Sam Donald. You want to talk more about Bucky Irving, and how would you rank Bucky versus Ibuka?
38:40Oh, I'd start Bucky. I mean, look, he's playing very well, and hopefully that continues.
38:45And I know this isn't an easy matchup, but we're at a point, which is frustrating that it's week three, where there's
38:52so many injuries, and you have a player who's doing what Bucky's doing, like the 80-whatever-it-was-total yards that he had last week
38:59against Cleveland and being involved in the passing game.
39:02That's a very serviceable number two running back. So when you start to compare him against some of the players that weren't
39:08drafted as potential starters, so Aaron Jones comes into play, Jadarian Price comes into play.
39:13Well, how about, it's got to be Chuba Hubbard.
39:16Well, you tell me, Chuba Hubbard? I would start Chuba Hubbard over Bucky.
39:20Yeah, that's a great one. I'm surprised I left him out as the start of the week.
39:26But yeah, you start to just get to those mid-tier number two running backs that you'll see in our rankings, and you compare those guys to Bucky.
39:34You just got to hope that Bucky's a factor in the passing game, and Minnesota's defense doesn't swallow up this offensive line.
39:41So Todd Bowles and Zach Robinson were each asked about Bucky Irving and his role and his workload, and one of the
39:48questions was about putting him on a snap count.
39:51That was to Zach Robinson, as Jamie referred to.
39:54But Zach Robinson eventually said that it's about being early in the season.
39:58They don't want to overwork anybody there. But again, and this is Zach Robinson talking, and I quote, but again, there might
40:05be games where, shoot, we just need it, and he's running well, and we just keep rolling with him.
40:11And Bowles kind of said the same thing. So I don't think there's like a strict snap count on Bucky Irving that
40:18all the coaches have in mind, and they're definitely going to pull him after he's been at 35 snaps or whatever.
40:24I think if he's hot, they're going to lean into him.
40:28And if he's not hot, and if he's just okay, then maybe they get Gainwell on the field a little bit more.
40:35And they should get Gainwell on the field a little bit more anyway.
40:39What are they doing by not using him more after they acquired him and they know what his strengths are?
40:45And what better way for Baker Mayfield to kind of get in the rhythm of the game than by keeping his throw
40:52short and leaning into Gainwell on the flats and letting him make a play after the catch?
40:57All right. So how about Abuka? Because Godwin's in the 40s in the rankings.
41:02You just, you know, you can't trust him. Yeah, I can't trust him.
41:06Yeah. I honestly think of Baker Mayfield. Like, they're going to blitz the hell out of him so I could see him throwing short to Godwin or whatever.
41:15But I have so much Godwin that I'm sitting in this week.
41:19And the Vikings last year, they gave up the fewest fantasy points to wide receivers.
41:23This year, big games for Golden and Watson. Terrible games for the Bears in the conditions.
41:28But Dave, would you start Emeka Abuka? As a number three receiver, I would.
41:33He is not a top 24 receiver. I like Josh Downs better.
41:37Michael Wilson? I'm not going to be there. I'd rather start Abuka over Wilson.
41:41Okay. We've got on the Vikings side, Jamie, any interest in Kyler Murray this week?
41:46Low-end starter. I'd start him over Drake May, for example.
41:49You know, not quite there yet with Herbert, just given Herbert's matchup.
41:53But there's got to be some optimism for Kyler, right?
41:56Because we know that this offense, at least in week one, started to show or showed some things that are encouraging, specifically
42:03with some of the plays downfield for Justin Jefferson.
42:06I just think it's been so disjointed for this team.
42:09So we don't really have an idea of what exactly their identity is yet because you have no Jordan Mason.
42:15So Aaron Jones did really well last week in the conditions against a team that's going to probably struggle to stop the
42:22run or stop anything, maybe from the Bears' perspective.
42:25You had Carson Wentz with, you know, some just ridiculous plays and some awful plays, which is the Carson Wentz experience.
42:32And so now you may not have a strong run game because we don't know what exactly Aaron Jones' status is.
42:38You're facing a Bucs defense, which I don't know how good they are.
42:42I think we'll kind of get, I don't even know if we'll get a clear example or a clear test of it.
42:49Like you said, they played much better than I think a lot of people expected in week one against Cincinnati.
42:56And then they struggled against Deshaun Watson last week at times with some of the plays that we saw there.
43:02So I think you're looking at it like Murray is more of a desperation QB2 in the same range of, am I going to trust CJ Stroud?
43:11Am I going to trust Geno Smith? Am I going to trust Sam Darnold?
43:15You know, these type of guys that have some decent matchups.
43:18And then you're starting Jefferson. So yeah, but how would you rank Kyler with like Sam Darnold or Kyler?
43:24Kyler's top 15 quarterback for me. So I'm going to go with the hope of, he uses legs.
43:30I'm going to go with the hope of, he gets Jefferson going and you know, that this is what we were expecting
43:37to see from Kyler when there was reason for optimism.
43:40So I trust Kevin O'Connell and I'm trusting that this defense isn't great.
43:44I don't think Tampa Bay defense is going to be that good.
43:48They just don't feel like they're, this team feels like, I don't know what the odds are, but Todd Bowles could be the first coach fired.
43:56Like that's where they're headed at this point. Okay.
43:59I got cold feet on Kyler this morning. I, we know the Vikings are the number one blitzing defense in the league
44:06through two weeks and they were last year. The bucks are almost right behind them.
44:11I think they're third and Kyler versus pressure and versus the blitz.
44:15I don't like how that feels. So I, I would start May over him.
44:19I'd start Brissette, Winston, Gino, all over Kyler Murray.
44:22I sank Kyler Murray. Oh, interesting. Okay. Another, another, but yet I don't disagree with Jamie's assessment of the bucks defense, but
44:29I think the one thing that they can do well is just send bodies after Kyler Murray.
44:34And I think that'll frazzle Kyler. Just one thing in his favor and you can take this for what it's worth.
44:41Both quarterbacks, one of them being, um, Joe Burrow have run for at least 20 yards against the bucks.
44:47Sure. No, I think he can. So if you're, if you're getting two points out of the gate, like that's a good start.
44:54All right. Sure. Until he throws an interception and those two points are gone.
44:59Questions from the chat. Godwin or Burden? Burden. I think I have Burden higher, but I bet I can find a receiver
45:06on the waiver wire that I'd start ahead of both of them.
45:09Let's start Hutchinson. I would start. I'd start Michael Wilson for sure.
45:13I'd start Denzel Boston for sure. All right. Moving on.
45:16You may have picked up Valey. I would have started him.
45:20Those guys aren't on the waiver wire. No, no, no.
45:23I'm saying, but if you had picked them up off the waiver wire.
45:27Abuka or Josh Downs? They're in the same range as Adonai Mitchell.
45:31Downs. Godwin, Schultz, or Stevenson at Flex? Schultz. Is it PPR?
45:34I don't know. If it's full or half PPR, it's Schultz.
45:38If it's non-PPR, I might still go Schultz. It's either him or Stevenson though.
45:42Godwin or Odunze? Godwin. That's where I'd go Godwin.
45:45Aaron Jones or Quinchon Judkins? Judkins. I think I have Jones higher.
45:49Aaron Jones or DeAndre Swift? Swift. DeAndre Swift. Surprise, going Judkins over Jones.
45:53Abuka or Neighbors? I mean, Judkins has, what, seven more catches than Aaron Jones?
45:57Who would have thought that? Yeah, that's true. I'd go Neighbors.
46:01I would too. Irving, Swift, Tootin. Pick two. Sitting Tootin.
46:04I'm sitting Tootin, but I'm excited to have him on my team.
46:08Yeah, I'm usually sitting when I'm Tootin too. Kyler Murray or, oh, it says Drew Locke, but what if it were Sam Darnold?
46:15Kyler. It's Kyler. Kyler or Bryce Young? Bryce. Yes.
46:18Kyler or Herbert? Herbert. Herbie. Start the Vikings DST?
46:21Yes. Yes, please. Is it Jordan Addison? By the way, if for whatever reason the Vikings DST is available, they get the Dolphins next week too.
46:2996% rostered. Is it Jordan Addison? Probably. Again, it's based on hope because we have seen nothing yet from him to say
46:36you should start him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's the top 24 receiver this week.
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48:54Blue Sky? Oh, love it. Philadelphia at Chicago. Fun fact that hopefully continues of the game.
48:59DeAndre Swift has consecutive games of 16 or more carries.
49:02That did not happen at any point in 2025.
49:05Also, the Bears ran all over the Eagles last year.
49:0840 carries for 255 yards and two touchdowns in week 13.
49:12And both guys had 100 yards. Mononghi and Swift, they were the only 100-yard rushers against the Eagles all season, in the regular season.
49:19Amazing. Amazing. So I guess we can start on the Chicago side of the ball, Dave.
49:24And is, yeah, is DeAndre Swift the only guy we're starting?
49:28He's it. This is a huge opportunity for him to shoulder the workload.
49:32We don't know how healthy Mononghi will be if he plays.
49:35And I know what happened last year. I worry greatly about Chicago being anywhere remotely near that effective this week.
49:42However, Swift should see plenty of work. The Bears have to lean on their run game with Case Keenum under center.
49:48I am starting DeAndre Swift. Knowing what you know now, knowing exactly what we know now, would you start Colson Loveland or Kyle Pitts this week?
49:57A better question, would you start Colson Loveland or Tucker Craft?
50:006.6 fantasy points for Tucker Craft. Would you start that or Loveland this week?
50:04I would take the chance with Loveland. I think the number one thing we've seen through two weeks of Caleb Williams under
50:11center is that Caleb doesn't play on schedule. He's two weeks.
50:15Two weeks and two years. Three if you count USC.
50:18Yeah, he tries to be Superman all the time.
50:21We've spoken about it. And it's costing guys who are open as the first read to not get the target.
50:27And said, Caleb's running around all over the place.
50:30Except for Khalif Raymond. For whatever reason, Khalif Raymond is getting his targets on time.
50:35Case Keenum's going to play on time. I don't think he's going to throw a ton unless the Bears just fall woefully behind.
50:42But Loveland's an easy target for him to throw to over the middle of the field.
50:47I think that's a matchup that's favorable for Loveland.
50:50I'm going to say it. He will get more than 6.2 PPR points, whatever, or 6.6, whatever Tucker Craft.
50:56All right. Loveland's going to do it this week.
50:59He's going to get you seven PPR points. Okay.
51:02That said, he's 20th for Jamie, 17th for Dave, and 21st for Heath.
51:06You can start... I mean, you could start a Rondae...
51:09Jamie has Gadsden higher. Dave does not. Heath does.
51:12You could start Pat Friarmuth. Jamie has Friarmuth higher.
51:15Dave does not. You could start Hunter Henry. Again, Jamie has Henry higher.
51:19Dave does not. Juwan Johnson, they both do. Terrence Ferguson, assuming Puka's out, you can start him over Coles 11.
51:25The list goes on and on. Luther Burden would be the best receiver for the Bears, and he is at 36, 37,
51:32and 40 for Jamie, Dave, and Heath. So Denzel Boston is ahead of him.
51:36Trey Tucker is for Jamie, ahead of Burden, not for Dave.
51:40They're two spots apart. Terry McLaurin versus Burden. They like McLaurin better.
51:44They like Stefan Diggs better than Luther Burden. And that's pretty much...
51:47We're not starting Odunzeh at this point. Monongai, if Monongai plays, would you start Monongai or, you know, like the Jadarian Prices, the Bejal Tootins of the world?
51:56The running backs were not super excited to start.
51:59Those guys over Monongai. Yes. All right. And then on the Eagles side, if Barkley plays, we're going to start him.
52:06If Devontae Smith plays, we're going to start him.
52:09Jalen Hurts is top six. I think he's fourth for Jamie and Heath and sixth for Dave, something like that.
52:15That's all right. Nope. Sixth for Jamie and Heath and fourth for Dave.
52:19So you can start Purdy over him. If you have Prescott, Lamar Jackson, you know, these are...
52:24Jared Goff is very close with Jalen Hurts, but he's a start.
52:28And that's pretty much it. Now, Jamie, if Devontae Smith doesn't play, what does that mean for Hurts?
52:34What does that mean for Wicks, Lemon, et cetera?
52:37You have to downgrade Hurts a little bit, you know, so still start him because of what he'll do with his legs.
52:44But, I mean, down Smith and down Goddard, that's terrible.
52:47So Wicks is already a number three receiver for me.
52:50He scored 12.4 PPR points or more in each of his first two games.
52:54So he's off to a great start. Targets were up last week when Hurts had to throw a little bit more.
53:01So without Goddard there, we'll see what they do with Hurts or what they're going to do with their tight end position.
53:08I think it's a great spot for Dontabian Wicks.
53:11So, you know, if you're stuck at receiver, you asked about, you know, I would start Wicks over Burden.
53:17I would start Wicks over Michael Wilson. I would start Wicks over, I'm trying to think anybody, Odunze.
53:23Now, this is even if Smith plays? Oh, yeah.
53:25I mean, again, he's doing this with Smith on the field.
53:29So it's funny because, you know, you remember when we got excited about Dontabian Wicks, the way he finished, I think it
53:36was the 2023 season or 2024 season. And you just see when he gets targets, he produces.
53:41So he's getting opportunities now. And this is an offense that he knows.
53:45He probably knows it better than anybody because he was in Green Bay last year and that's where Sean Manning came from.
53:52So there's a lot to like about the scenario for him and he's producing.
53:57So if he's still available on waivers, I think it was like 76% roster.
54:01So probably 10 team leagues is where you'll find him.
54:04This could be great, huge. Really? I thought I had him at 62, 65% for Wicks.
54:09Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I was maybe thinking something else.
54:13No, that's all right. It goes up, you know, every day.
54:16Yesterday was 62. Now it's 65 for Dontabian Wicks.
54:19All right. You can take a shot on him.
54:22Eagles DST must start. Oh, yeah. Number one. Eat him.
54:25Yeah. All right. So did I miss anything from this game?
54:28Let's see if we have any questions. Geandre Swift or Bucky Irving?
54:32Swift. I've got Bucky higher. I'm still looking. The Eagles run defense is not like this impenetrable force.
54:38Two years in a row. It's good. I'm still treating Swift as an absolute must start.
54:43Are you guys? 100%. And number two running back, yes.
54:46Okay. But not like 21st, right? I mean. No.
54:49He's closer to 12. All right. Luther Burden or Rashad Bateman?
54:52Bateman by a mile. Especially, obviously, if Zay Flowers doesn't play, it's Bateman.
54:56And that's what we're expecting as of now. Garrett Wilson or DeAndre Swift?
55:01Yes. G-Dub. Who are you benching? Eagles or Jaguars this week?
55:04Eagles. Eagles. If no Devante Smith, would you start Bateman or Wicks?
55:08Bateman. Bateman. Okay. If no Devante Smith but yes Zay Flowers, would you start Bateman or Wicks?
55:13Wicks. Wicks is better there. Okay. Las Vegas is at New Orleans.
55:17Raiders. Dave, you mentioned their pass rush. Second highest pressure rate in the NFL.
55:21Sure. They have faced Miami and the Chargers. Maybe that has something to do with it.
55:26Yes. But New Orleans' offensive line took a hit.
55:29I mentioned Calvin Banks' injury earlier in the show.
55:32Yeah. And they weren't doing a great job, at least run blocking last week.
55:37They did not do a great job there either.
55:39So I'm a little pessimistic about that offensive line holding up.
55:43But Shuck has worked around that so far. Because, I mean, he took on Baltimore last week.
55:48It's not like he had all day long in the backfield to diagnose routes and all that stuff.
55:54So he's been under pressure already and he's done really well.
55:57So I'm not discounting Shuck because he's playing the Raiders and Max Crosby.
56:02All right. But, I mean, the Raiders have done a great job against Malik Willis and Justin Herbert.
56:07Or is this a... Well, Justin Herbert did a poor job for himself.
56:11Either way, you know. Now both quarterbacks only had 27 pass attempts.
56:15I guess, is this an obvious start for Tyler Shuck?
56:18You guys have it ranked that way. But are we missing something here with the Raiders?
56:23We'll find out. I mean, look, Shuck, you know, if he doesn't rally in the fourth quarter of...
56:29or the second half of week one, you know, it's not a great performance for him despite how bad Detroit's defense has been.
56:36He looked much better last week against Baltimore. So give him credit for that.
56:41That was on the road. First home game, you know, so that matters.
56:45Back-to-back road games for them. He leads the NFL in passing yards.
56:49You know, so there's reason for optimism here based on how he's performed.
56:53And so if you're stuck with what Justin Herbert has looked like, if you're replacing Caleb Williams and Jane Daniels, and there's
57:00news on Daniels, by the way, and Jackson Dart, like this is a great replacement quarterback for you, maybe for the rest of the season.
57:08So I know the Raiders have been much better than we anticipated.
57:11It's not the layup matchup that I think we thought it was going to be mostly for Herbert last week.
57:18So take that into account. If Shuck comes out of this with a bad game, I think that's probably more of an
57:25indication, depending on how the game goes, that the Raiders' defense is probably for real.
57:29But I don't buy that in terms of not trusting Tyler Shuck at this point.
57:34Like his receivers are playing great. His tight ends are playing great.
57:38The running game sucks. You know, it's almost like what we were talking about with Jordan Love and the Packers, except you've
57:45seen it now for two games of just, or I guess a game and a half of just Tyler Shuck playing fantastic.
57:52And I know like he's had some concerns about the volume.
57:55Like, yes, they didn't play an overtime game and have as many snaps as they did from week one to week two.
58:02It was still a very quality percentage of targets to the receivers.
58:06And Tyler Shuck still throwing quite a bit. That's the whole point.
58:10That's the whole point. And Jamie mentioned it's the first home game for the Saints, back-to-back road games for the Raiders.
58:16Can we call their week two game a road game?
58:20Didn't sound like it. So Shuck, yeah, a top 10 guy.
58:23And, oh, what the hell was I going to say?
58:26Oh, Jamie, you're wrong. He does not leave the NFL in passing yards.
58:30I love passing. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Sorry.
58:33Going into week three, Tyler Shuck was leading the NFL in passing.
58:37Okay. Travis A. Chan. Where is Travis A. Chan with, again, that group of Robondre Stevenson and Jadarian Price and Jeremiah Love, all these like tandem guys.
58:46Because, hey, he's one of them too. And he's just what?
58:49He got 17 carries in two games. Dave, Travis A.
58:52Chan. He had 16 touches in week one and then only 10 in week two.
58:57And I'd be shocked if it happened again. You want to safeguard yourself against that.
59:02And if you can, you can do it. But you line them up against Quinshot Junkins, Basial Tootin, the Patriots running backs.
59:09I don't know. I still see a running back who should lead this team in touches, should be their goal line guy.
59:16I think they're going to put up points on the Raiders.
59:19And I don't think he personally stinks. So I'm still going to back him as a low-end RB2.
59:25Etienne or Vele from the chat? Good question. Vele and PPR.
59:28Maybe Vele and both. I think Vele and PPR is safer.
59:32Etienne. Here's the thing with Etienne. Can you answer this one real quick?
59:36A. Chan, Travis Etienne, A. Chan or Dobbins? A.
59:39Chan. I think when you start to compare him to, you asked about the Patriots guys, that's a frustrating one because we
59:46just don't know which one's going to be better than the other, play more than the other.
59:51I think it's a fair comp with Tootin because Tootin, terrible matchup.
59:55And we'll see what the splits are from Rodriguez and LeQuinn Allen from just how they play.
60:00Tootin's going to still lead the team in touches.
60:03I'm very curious if they're going to make Kendra Miller active this week or not because last week he was a healthy scratch.
60:10And so does Miller come into this game and get part of the action because they can't run the ball?
60:17They've just stunk at running the ball. And I don't know if Miller's the answer, but it's not Kamara.
60:23And I don't know if Travis Etienne is the guy right now at less than 100%.
60:28Yeah, I mean, that's something he's coming in with an injury.
60:31So, I mean, I think I'd start, I guess the only thing I'd differ with you is I'd start Tootin over him.
60:38Oh, I don't disagree with that. I mean, they're two spots apart.
60:42Yeah. So, like, I'm at the point where if there's no TyJ Spears, I would start telling Pollard over him.
60:48Oof, man. I could see why. I could see why.
60:51Yeah. I mean, wouldn't you rather take the running back that you know should play?
60:56Like, you know that Pollard should see more snaps at least, if not more touches overall, than HN.
61:02I agree. And his matchup is probably better. Can we say it's better than Vegas?
61:06Yeah. Oh, for sure. All right. Let's go through the rest of this game here.
61:11Sit Kirk Cousins, even though he has, he leads the NFL in touchdown rate, six touchdown passes in two games.
61:18Yeah. But, you know, credit to the Saints. They've done well against Goff and Lamar Jackson, obviously without flowers.
61:24Start, Gentty. Trey Tucker or Devon Vele? Vele. Vele.
61:26Trey Tucker or Luther Burden? Tucker. I've got Burden two spots higher as of now.
61:31I don't think I'm going to stick with it, though.
61:34Trey Tucker or Bajal Tootin? Tucker and PPR. I think I have Tootin higher.
61:39Start, Brock Bowers. He's top three for Jamie and Dave.
61:42He's eighth for Heath. So, Heath being a little cautious, I guess, first game back for Brock Bowers.
61:48And then, what is Shuck? Yeah, like I said, top ten.
61:51Shuck or Mahomes? Mahomes. Mahomey. Shuck or Justin Herbert?
61:54Shuck. Shuck. Shuck or Bryce Young for the 15th time this week?
61:58Shuck, but that's back-to-back. They are back-to-back top ten quarterbacks for me.
62:01I would rather start Shuck. And if you're in QB hell and you're looking at your lineup, you lost Jackson Dart, for
62:08example, and you don't feel good about Mariota or Winston, you should be able to trade something pretty cheap to get Shuck in a one QB league.
62:17And Chris Olave is a must-start. Devon Vele is top 30 for Jamie and Dave.
62:22Just outside of that for Heath, we talked a little bit about Vele.
62:26So, that brings us to Juwan Johnson. Would you start Juwan Johnson or Jake Ferguson?
62:31Juwan. Juwan. Juwan Johnson or Schultz for sure over him.
62:34How about Juwan Johnson over Hunter Henry? Juwan. I'll take double J over double H.
62:38And just to clarify, I meant to say Schultz over Juwan Johnson.
62:42Yes. Juwan or Friermuth? Juwan. Juwan. Friermuth. Juwan Johnson or Harold Vanden Jr.?
62:46Juwan. Juwan. All right. Saints defense. Jamie's got them 12th.
62:49Dave and Heath, 21st and 20th. Seattle at Washington.
62:52Stat of the game. Sam Darnold looks like he's trending in the right direction to play.
62:57Very good in easy matchups last year. And including against Washington, 24 pass attempts, 35.2 fantasy points in six point per passing touchdown games.
63:05And stat of the game number two, which is one that doesn't matter, but it's fun anyway.
63:10The commanders have allowed four touchdowns on nine targets to tight ends so far this season.
63:15And no Nick Cross, no. That is true. Jake Ferguson and Dallas Goddard would be those tight ends.
63:21All right. So yeah. Like, would you, would you start Sam Darnold, Jamie, if he plays?
63:26Where would he be ranked? He's going to be a top 20 quarterback.
63:30You know, so I think there's, you know, I'd start him over Bursette.
63:34I'd start him over Baker. I'd start him over Knicks.
63:38I'd start him over, I think that's probably the list of like the more named guys.
63:43Yeah. Look, you just got to hope he's healthy.
63:45I mean, you just saw Drew Locke throw three touchdowns to, you know, arguably the best receiver in the NFL.
63:52So that's on Sam Darnold's side. I would not be surprised if there's a Barner touchdown here.
63:57Their run game has not been great. So, you know, maybe a little bit more on Sam Darnold's plate or the passing game's plate.
64:05So I think it just comes down to, you know, who you're comparing it to.
64:09Yeah. He's got, he's got a lot of reasons.
64:12There's a lot of reasons to like Sam Darnold right now.
64:16And the commander's run defense has been good. Their pass defense has been awful.
64:20And we've got, we've got, if you want to hear about Jadarian Price, he's about 26th in the rankings.
64:26You want to hear about Price, go to the one question for each game segment.
64:31Start JSN. I don't think we're starting AJ Barner.
64:34He has three targets this season. He has a rushing touchdown.
64:37Marcus, I mean, look, it's a terrible matchup for the commanders.
64:41This team, Seattle is playing defense at such a high level.
64:44So sit Mariota. And then we'll get to the running backs last.
64:48By the way, the news on Daniels, he's not going to go on IR.
64:52They're considering him week to week. Okay. That's good news.
64:56The imaging came back. Everyone gets good news except Jackson dark Washington wide receivers.
65:00Dave, how are you approaching digs and McLaurin? Who do you like better?
65:04And where are they ranked? I like digs better.
65:07They are both number three receivers. I am not like deathly afraid to start them just because it's Marcus Mariota.
65:13In fact, I'm more nervous about the matchup than anything else.
65:17But especially in the case of digs, where can you win throwing the football against Seattle?
65:22It's underneath. It's short throws over the middle of the field.
65:25We've seen McLaurin work there before. We've definitely seen digs working there this year.
65:30And digs is also working in the flats to the outside, short area near the sideline.
65:35And I think that that's going to help push digs to better numbers over McLaurin.
65:39I might have McLaurin a little too high having him as a top 35 receiver, but I am not feeling the same way about digs.
65:47I like digs as a top 30 type of wide receiver.
65:51Okay, but definitely just for what it's worth five games together last year, Mariota with McLaurin, 14 and a half PPR points or more in three of them.
66:00Only one game was single digits in PPR scoring.
66:03So there's a pretty good track record here for these two guys playing together.
66:07And we know that Terry McLaurin had a bad year across the board last season, but some of his best games did
66:14come with with Mariota, including an absolute shocker. Or that game against Denver.
66:18Yeah, no, Denver. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
66:21Where you just see was amazing, but gosh, Seattle's defense is just so good.
66:25All right. Would you start Jadarian price or a commander's wide receiver?
66:29I'd start price. I'd start digs. And if it's full PPR, I might start McLaurin to over price.
66:35I just, I hate the, the, the usage so far.
66:38I, you know, I, I'm hopeful about the usage.
66:41I'm not expecting a lot of catches for price, but that's a problem.
66:45Yeah. But I think he was really starting to, you know, get going last week and then he got hurt and there
66:52was a play where they had like first and goal and Emmanuel Wilson came in and he did nothing.
66:58And then they were like, all right, let's just bring in price.
67:02And they gave it to him and he lost two yards, but it wasn't his fault.
67:07I don't know. It's like something in me at the optimist in me is thinking that they're finally coming to their senses.
67:14Well, the realist in me is that we've seen this coaching staff use multiple running backs.
67:19But this isn't Zach Charbonnet. You know, this is Emmanuel Wilson, but I don't think you're right.
67:24I think you have to play it safe. You can't, you can't play it like the optimist.
67:29You have to play it safe with Jadarian price, which is trapped back right now.
67:34Any interest in a commander's running back? You know, who is actually interesting is Rashad White.
67:39Speaking of multi running back backfields, I think he's probably best suited for this matchup because it's a tough run defense.
67:46And I don't think either he nor Ja'Cory Krosky-Meritt are going to get a good rushing game.
67:51Their efficiency won't be good, but I think Rashad White can make plays out of the backfield, can catch the ball a little bit.
67:59Wouldn't surprise me if he led the team in snaps at running back for the second week in a row.
68:05So I think he's actually like a borderline-ish RB2 in full PPR.
68:09Yeah, okay. Makes sense. He played more snaps than Ja'Cory Krosky-Meritt last week.
68:13And they kind of rode the hot hand because White was just playing well.
68:17So it wasn't just like a, just because of the score.
68:21And that, I think, is it for this game.
68:24Start the Seahawks DST. Baltimore at Dallas in Rio.
68:27So, honestly, I feel like I could make a case to maybe rank Lamar Jackson kind of low-ish if they weren't playing Dallas.
68:34Without, say, Flowers, I'm saying. But I won't make that case because they're playing Dallas.
68:39Yeah, this Dallas defense has just not come close to expectations.
68:42Because I want to bring this up. When and Williams hasn't been playing great.
68:47I want to bring this up with Lamar Jackson, and I don't think we need to have this conversation now.
68:53But for all the Jackson managers, it's important to note, he started running less last year, even before his injury.
68:59He wasn't running as much. And so far, he has seven carries in two games.
69:04It is a trend worth watching. I think he wants to throw more.
69:08And Zay Flowers obviously gives him so much more potential as a passer.
69:12Yeah. You know why he wants to throw more?
69:15Because his play caller trusts him, and he wants to put him in positions and is calling mostly great plays.
69:21There were a couple plays last week I bet Declan Doyle wishes that he had back.
69:26But creative play caller who's putting his receivers in good spots, and Lamar understands it.
69:31I would lean in. If I could buy stock in Lamar Jackson's arm, I would do it.
69:36I think that he's going to continue to throw the ball out.
69:40And he's still willing to run when he's pressured.
69:43He did that last week. And he'll do better than 20 yards rushing most weeks.
69:48And because of the matchup, and even though he won't have Zay Flowers, at least we think he won't, I still would start him.
69:55I don't think it's really anything. If I've got Purdy with him, then I'll probably just pivot to Purdy.
70:01Yeah, no, no. But otherwise, look, Lamar is still looking very, very good as a quarterback.
70:07Stock symbol for that, Dave, is LJRM for Lamar Jackson's arm.
70:10If you want to buy stock in that. LJRM.
70:13No? Okay. Joke didn't work. Joke didn't work. That's okay.
70:16Start, Derek Henry. Start the lead wide receiver for the Ravens.
70:19And we're going to get a lot of Rashad Bateman questions.
70:23Assuming Zay Flowers doesn't play, we're going to get a lot of Rashad Bateman questions on Sunday.
70:28Jamie's got him 17th. Dave has him 23rd. The numbers are just amazing.
70:32If you give this guy seven or more targets, each of the last six times Rashad Bateman has had seven or more targets.
70:40He's scored 15.8 or more fantasy points. He has scored a touchdown.
70:43It's just five targets, dude. You lower it. I didn't see that.
70:47But he scored a touchdown in all six of those games.
70:51I didn't see that stat. I was looking for the five.
70:54I saw a lot of bad games with five targets, but I could be wrong.
70:59You're usually spot on with that. I mean, it's not every game.
71:03I'm sure every game we had seven, he's great.
71:06But there's, I think it's like 70% of the games he's had five.
71:10Okay. Um, and then, yeah, it's just a tough question of like, what do you do if Zay Flowers plays?
71:16So right now he's a top 20 receiver Rashad Bateman.
71:19But if Flowers plays, Jamie, where would you end up ranking him?
71:23So I think you got to just downgrade Flowers a little bit because bad turf and not a hundred percent.
71:29So I would probably put him in the teens if he plays still, you know, for the most part, a must start wide receiver.
71:37Um, I would like to see what this looks like without Jacoby Lane, because I think Bateman can still be a starter in three receiver leagues.
71:45You know, so Keith was making the point about just the, the, the target share that Zay Flowers has gotten.
71:51And there really hasn't been a lot left for anybody else.
71:55We just don't know because we haven't seen it.
71:58Lane got hurt early in, in week one, early enough in week one that there's not enough of a sample size to say, okay, this is what.
72:06Declan Doyle's offense will look like with multiple guys probably being involved or potentially being involved.
72:11So what does that mean for Andrews? What does that mean for Bateman?
72:15Those will be the top three guys until Lane returns, uh, along with Flowers.
72:20But without Flowers, you know, you saw it last week, nine targets for, for Bateman.
72:25He was awesome. And this Dallas defense, I think is not one you fear.
72:29So, um, very encouraged and excited about Rashad Bateman.
72:32And are we excited about Mark Andrews, Dave? Uh, to a degree.
72:36It's as far as someone who can get me 10 PPR points.
72:39Yes. I think he could do that. I think he's a borderline tight end one in full PPR.
72:45They faced one legitimate tight end so far this season as they likely killed them in week one.
72:51This is Dallas. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you can't really.
72:54He's not the same type of tight end. No, totally.
72:57But you can't judge. You can't judge the, uh, the Washington offense because they didn't have Jake.
73:03Jake Ferguson has six targets in two games. I know he caught two touchdowns last week, but he's not that high in the rankings.
73:1019th for Jamie. He's 16th for Dave. 23rd for Heath.
73:13Start lamb. Start picking. Just keep in mind with Ferguson because if he scores, he's going to be a good or around a top 12 tight end.
73:22Obviously, he scores twice. He's an easy top 12 tight end.
73:25They have been very strange in their production allowed to tight end so far, the Ravens, because they did a great job on Tyler Warren in week one.
73:34He scored a touchdown in the fourth quarter. He had 13 yards receiving.
73:38In week two, he had a big play for Juwan Johnson that got him to 10 PPR points.
73:44And so they've done a good job containing, I think, two decent tight ends.
73:48Um, at some point we're going to get a George Pickens game.
73:52I hope it's this week. And my guess is, as we saw last year, that comes at the expense of Jake Ferguson.
73:59Okay. Okay. Well, yeah. I mean, the targets are coming at the expense of Ferguson, um, but the touchdowns not, not yet.
74:06And then Javon, like you're going to start your Cowboys.
74:09Jamie's a little low on Javante. He's not having a great season so far, but he's like great in week one.
74:16But in terms of like 41 rushing yards, 30 rushing yards, Ravens have a good defense.
74:21Are they getting Matibuque back? Yeah. And Teddy Buchanan as well.
74:24Uh, it's not. So Hubbard's an easy start for me over Javante.
74:28Yes. It's not guaranteed that Matibuque is going to be back, but it's trending in that direction.
74:34They're talking like it, I think. All right. Let's see if we have chat questions for this game.
74:39Bateman or Valle? Bateman. Bateman. Either way with Flowers in or out?
74:43I think it's either way. Yeah. No, I'd still go Valle over Bateman if, uh, if Zay plays.
74:49Trey Tucker or Bateman. So that's clearly Bateman if, if Flowers is out.
74:53Bateman either way. Bateman either way. Pollard, Bill, or Bateman, PPR?
74:56Uh, Bateman. Bateman. Bateman if Flowers is out. Will I go Pollard over Bateman if Flowers plays?
75:02I think I would. It's tough. Um, I would go Pollard over Bateman if Zay plays and Sharp is, uh, Spears is up.
75:09Right. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. We're not starting Pollard if Spears is playing.
75:14Well, unless you're desperate at running back. Yeah. Like, I don't mind Pollard as like a high-end number three running back if TyJ Spears plays.
75:22Quinton Johnston, Brian Thomas Jr., Rashad Bateman. Pick two.
75:24Bateman. And? I'm sitting BTJ. Jackson or? Yeah, sit, sit, Tom.
75:28Lamar Jackson or Tyler Shuck? Jackson. Lamar. If Zay Flowers is out, Bateman or Rasheed Rice?
75:33Bateman. Da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. Bateman! Bateman! Okay. Let's see. Andrews or likely?
75:36Likely. Imagine. We used to have that question a lot.
75:39Ha-ha. Ha-ha. The Ravens had that question for you.
75:42Andrews or Fanny? Andrews. Andrews over Fanny. One more game.
75:45Tennessee's at the Giants. It's out of the game.
75:48The Titans have allowed 60 or more yards to four wide receivers.
75:5270 or more yards to three wide receivers in two games.
75:55Facing the Jets and the Eagles, they appear to have a pretty bad pass defense.
76:00Malik Neighbors coming off a one-catch game. Neighbors or Bateman if Flowers is out?
76:05Neighbors. Bateman. Ha-ha. Okay. Who are the must-starts in this game, Dave Richard?
76:09I would say Neighbors is a must-start, but with number two wide receiver expectations and likely as a must-start as a top 10 tight end.
76:17And Scadaboo is still a number two fantasy running back.
76:20Yeah. And is there anybody I like for Tennessee?
76:23I guess Pollard, as I just said, would be a number three running back.
76:27Who am I missing? Who would I be missing?
76:30Am I missing anybody? I don't think so. No.
76:33Do you want to – do you want to – like, I think the Giants defense is bad.
76:38They don't have Brian Burns. They probably are getting a starting cornerback back in Deontay Banks.
76:43But do you think – I think that helps.
76:46I don't know if it helps. It helps. Well, I mean, listen, it doesn't really matter because it's the Titans and their
76:53entire passing offense is a mess right now. You know, I went back and watched the tape because I saw the game,
77:00you know, live, the play where Hurts had almost the pick six, and it set them up first in goal.
77:06And then I think it was Isle Manor was wide open in the end zone, and Ward made such a bad throw.
77:13And I went back and watched the tape, and it really wasn't that bad.
77:18It wasn't as bad as the numbers. And the Eagles are obviously a stiffer challenge than the Giants.
77:24That's true, but it's not going to make me inclined to start anybody in the Tennessee offense.
77:29Yeah, what are we doing here? What am I even talking about?
77:33No. I mean, did you see something with Carnell Tate that stood out to you?
77:37Because I didn't. No, I mean, no. I didn't see anything.
77:41And there's still too many bad throws from Cam Ward.
77:44He might make some good ones, but there's too many bad ones.
77:48Right. Inconsistent play is bad play. You know, the Giants, I think the Giants are going to be terrible against tight ends
77:55with their personnel, but I don't think we're starting Gunnar Helm.
77:58And we're not starting Jameis. So, yeah, that's pretty much this game.
78:02I think Hunter Jameis in a 2QB league. I don't think that that's crazy at all.
78:07Oh, yeah. Because it's not like Tennessee's defense is really good either.
78:11There's definitely room for Winston to surprise us with a good game.
78:15But, yeah, it is a revenge game for Brian Dable, as pointed out here by Big Relish and by Jamie earlier in the week.
78:22And a lot of storylines here. Neighbors or McConkie from the chat?
78:26Glad. Glad. Neighbors or David Montgomery? Montgomery. Oh, boy.
78:29You can talk me into Montgomery in non-PPR. I'm going to go Montgomery either way.
78:34The Colts are bad. This is PPR. Yeah, I would take Neighbors.
78:37The matchup plus Jameis. Giants DST or Lions DST?
78:40The one playing Cam Ward. Thank you. These are your options?
78:44Those two? Where are you going to rank Pollard if Spears is out?
78:4823. 23. About there. And, okay. Neighbors or Vele in the chat?
78:52Malik. Neighbors. Someone's, yeah, we got some comments like, wow, Rashad Bateman over everyone.
78:56And, yeah, like, the Dallas Cowboys are just so bad defensively that Rashad, yeah, because Bateman over Neighbors.
79:02Actually, David just had two touchdowns. McLaurin should have had a big game.
79:06Yeah, they're so bad. That was me skipping back to Rashad Bateman.
79:10And that's going to do it for today's show.
79:13And how do you do the outro in Portuguese?
79:15We're going to try to have a funny clip for you on Sunday, Dave, that we can show Sunday morning.
79:22I'm trying to get clearance for it. Okay. You haven't gotten clearance yet.
79:26No, no, I haven't gotten clearance, Clarence. But we do – but Kyle Brandt, who's, you know, the man, and Allie Love,
79:33you know her, they made fun of me. It's every football analyst's dream to be made fun of by Kyle Brandt.
79:39And so we have some footage of that, hopefully, on Sunday's show, working on getting clearance of that for you.
79:46Okay. I mean, if you want to see it – you're teasing this clip, but if you want to see it, just
79:53go to Paramount Plus and watch the show NFL Play Action, which Adam is on every week, giving start and sit advice.
80:00And be entertained for yourselves. It's a very fun show all about football.
80:04Josh Allen is on it. But it's just – it's a very cool show, and they do cater to fantasy.
80:10So find it on Paramount Plus. When do you guys – when does it hit the site?
80:15Wednesday nights. Wednesday nights. Perfect. And I didn't realize Josh Allen played week two with the flu.
80:21And he was that good with the flu game.
80:24Amazing. Okay. Thanks for watching this and everybody. We'll talk to you in the mailbag later today, Sunday morning, 11 a.m.
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