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2:11This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play!
2:15Can you believe this? No, I can. It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
2:19Off to the races, and he stays on his feet.
2:23Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:26It is Wednesday morning, and Dave Richard has already made a trade.
2:30Great. Congratulations, Dave. What did I do? You traded Saquon Barkley for A.J.
2:34Brown. Didn't you? I did? Yeah, Podcast League. It just happened.
2:38Huh. I have a co-manager who makes these deals.
2:41What? Yeah. You hide your back? Yeah. I had no idea that Danny did that.
2:46Well, he did it. And Saquon Barkley... Good. What an amazing deal.
2:50Third most traded player in our league. Is that an amazing deal?
2:54You like it? You're happy? No. It's close. I'm not going to say that it's bad.
2:59No, I think... It's even. I have a trade chart.
3:02I think we should make Dave look at the trade chart.
3:06I'm going to guess it's not even. Let's see.
3:09It's interesting. It's really interesting. It's not as far-fetched as you think.
3:13I've got A.J. Brown at 19 in full PPR and Saquon Barkley at 18.
3:18So, point on the deal. No, you traded Barkley for A.J.
3:21Brown. You won the deal. No, we got Barkley.
3:24No, you got Brown. Why am I looking at my roster and we have Barkley?
3:29Oh. Because... You know why? Because we've got Saquon Barkley.
3:33I don't know. I thought it said... All right.
3:35I'm very confused. Hello, Heath. Yeah, I need to make...
3:39I got a trade offer in the podcast league, actually, that I was considering.
3:43But my team's so terrible, I'm not even sure I should make trades.
3:48Just to be clear, when I find somebody to help me with the podcast league, I tell them, you're the pilot, I'm the co-pilot.
3:56And I want them to make the moves that they think are best for the team.
4:01I think the co-pilot generally knows when moves happen, though.
4:04He's in the cockpit. I did not get... He's sometimes asked to push buttons, flip switches.
4:10Nah. Not me. Not this co-pilot. This co-pilot had no idea.
4:13You do have Saquon Barkley. You gave up AJ Brown.
4:17Who plays first, folks? I think Saquon plays first.
4:20All right. Welcome. Jamie's here. Good morning, Jamie. Good morning.
4:23All right. Who's the most traded player in fantasy on CBS Leagues?
4:27What do you think? Chase Brown. No. Cam Scadaboo.
4:30No. Good guess. What are you marked? No. Good guess.
4:33It's the biggest bust in fantasy, Omarian Hampton. He is way ahead of everything else.
4:38Loveland would like a word. Who? Colson Loveland would like a word.
4:42I saw that notification yesterday from Yahoo Leagues. Omarian Hampton is no longer on the do not unable to cut list.
4:49Oh, wow. So you can cut Omarian Hampton if you want to.
4:53Not only is he the most traded player, he has been traded more than 100 more times than the second most traded player, who is Ollie Gordon.
5:02Who would you guys rather have rest of season?
5:05Ollie Gordon or Omarian Hampton? Hampton. It's Hampton. Hampton.
5:08Okay. Hampton. Maybe they've been traded for each other a lot.
5:11Maybe. Wouldn't be surprising. Another duo that's very close in the trade chart.
5:16Yeah, that's crazy. All right. So anyway, we're going to tell you our buy lows, our sell highs.
5:22We're going to do the worryometer. Talk a lot about the Eagles today because Jamie's going to tell you to buy low on the Eagles.
5:30But two of the guys on the worryometer are Eagles, Devontae Smith and Saquon Barkley.
5:35We're going to preview Thursday night football. Seattle at Denver.
5:38And we got your grade the trades. And oh, a top 12 for the rest of the season.
5:44If we were drafting round one today, what would it look like?
5:48First, some news and notes. Just quarter, but we don't have any quarterback updates really, but we're hoping for Michael Penix Jr.
5:56and Caleb Williams. They are facing each other. Chicago at Atlanta.
5:59Running back news. Travion Henderson is week to week.
6:02DeAndre Swift, he has some hip and knee injuries.
6:05And we know Kyle Menongai is banged up. So did anybody pick up or getting ready to pick up Roshon Johnson, thinking
6:12that he might get some run this week at Atlanta?
6:16I started Roshon Johnson in the league last week.
6:19That's how good my season's going. Not yet. What's that?
6:22Not yet? Not yet. All right. Yeah, I mean, it's not like Swift didn't play.
6:27He did play. He didn't play much in the second half, but...
6:31I think he had one touch in the second half, right?
6:35They were getting blown out, but it's still concerning.
6:38One or two touches, yeah. I felt so stupid.
6:41And then Roshon Johnson scored like nine points in the fourth quarter, so I only felt a little bit stupid.
6:47That's good for you. Here's what Cincinnati offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher said about the running backs.
6:52He said, quote, I think we'll continually assess how that touch share between P.
6:57Ryan and Chase Brown should play out. Every game's different.
7:00What type of scheme we lean into is going to factor into that.
7:05Obviously, what we ran more of yesterday leans into what Samaje does well, which is get downhill and run through contact.
7:12And then the author of the article, Paul Daner Jr.
7:15of The Athletic, wrote... This is what Paul wrote, and this is not a quote from the coordinator.
7:21He wrote, which way they decide to operate will go a long way to dictating the usage of P.
7:27Ryan versus Brown, but Brown will continue to have a major role in either system.
7:32His impressive work in pass protection and making defenders miss out of the backfield are snug fits for the pass-heavy approach.
7:39And by the way, there's a little context here.
7:42They're basically saying if they want to run out of shotgun, it might be more of a P.
7:48Ryan thing. If they want to run under center, it might be more of a Chase Brown thing.
7:54But Dave, what are your thoughts on this now?
7:57Because Chase Brown is a super hot topic at the moment.
8:01You've got to be concerned. I don't blame the Bengals for utilizing a second back when the first back isn't effective.
8:08And there's definitely something to the whole shotgun versus under center thing.
8:12And this is probably something that I'm going to go ask Scott Turner about.
8:16So the show will come out Wednesday with Scott, and then I'll ask him his thoughts moving forward on Brown and P.
8:23Ryan and whether or not P. Ryan is even worth a look in fantasy.
8:28So you've got to ask Scott Turner about the Jaden Daniels thing, right?
8:32What do you think? You have to. I mean, it's not going to be a big focus because it's not fantasy, but of course.
8:40Yeah, good stuff. All right. And what do you think he's going to say?
8:45He had a pretty strong take on it that it was, from what I could tell, that he's really putting it on Jaden Daniels.
8:53He's very correct. It is on Jaden Daniels. It depends.
8:56I don't know what the coaches were saying. The coaches have to remind me.
9:01You really think the coaches told him run a play, run the ball right into the line of scrimmage, and then try and spike the ball?
9:09I don't know what they told him. Did they tell him we don't have any timeouts?
9:15You need to do something quick, or did they just not tell him that?
9:19I don't know. It seems like the coaches told him nothing.
9:23Kind of seems that way. I mean, that's sort of what he hinted at.
9:28But I don't know, because one of the players said that they knew they didn't have any timeouts, but the players certainly didn't act like that.
9:36So I don't know. Also, for those of you who didn't see, it's been pointed out that Daniels got his foot stepped
9:44on by his left guard on that play, and it seemed to just send everything into a tailspin, basically.
9:50It just really threw him off. And be clear, I think Jaden Daniels is partially to blame.
9:56I just think Dan Quinn's also to blame. Lots of people are to blame.
10:00Yes, that's fair. I thought it was a great play, personally.
10:04I thought they executed it perfectly. This is what I kind of made reference to yesterday on the CBS Sports Network show.
10:11I don't think it aired on CBS Sports Network, but we, you know, whatever, that same show.
10:17In week six through eight last year, after Chase Brown got into a really bad, got off to a really bad start,
10:24Chase Brown had 32 carries over the next three games, over week six through eight, and Samaje Pirine had 22 carries.
10:31So there is some history of Chase Brown struggling and then them going to a 60-40 split.
10:37And then Pirine got hurt, and that is when Chase Brown's season really took off.
10:42But the Bengals have a history of splitting the carries more evenly than we want.
10:46That's happened more often than not with Chase Brown, right?
10:50He wasn't actually that good until Zach Moss got hurt, and then he was, like, the best running back in fantasy.
10:57And he wasn't, until Samaje Pirine got hurt, he wasn't actually that good, and then he was one of the best running backs in fantasy.
11:05So we're only a couple weeks away. Yeah, there you go.
11:09Well, okay, he's relevant. So I'll just throw out some trade talk with Chase Brown here.
11:14Chase Brown or, looking at the most traded list, Bejal Tootin.
11:18Chase Brown. Chase Brown. I'd still rather Brown. Chase Brown or Michael Wilson?
11:22Brown. Chase Brown. Still Brown. Matthew Golden. Brown. Getting closer, but Brown.
11:26Depends on what I need. Malik Neighbors. Malik. Same exact territory for me.
11:30Brown. Okay. And Raheem Sanders is on IR. We don't know about Quinshawn Judkins.
11:35And James Cook has been warned about his fumbling.
11:38Coach put him on notice. So stop following. Also, I think I saw, did they open up the window on Dylan Sampson?
11:45I don't know if they've officially done it, but it sounds like it's going to happen.
11:50Okay. JSN was limited. I think we expect him to play on Thursday.
11:55Juwan Jennings could be a trade candidate, according to Ian Rappaport.
11:58Tyreek Hill. Jamie, where are we at with Tyreek Hill?
12:02He was found liable for two counts of battery, but he was not found liable for eight other counts.
12:08So he seemed to be happy with the results of this case.
12:12What's your advice? Drop him, stash him? What do you think?
12:16I mean, if you could stash him, that's obviously the smart move to do, just in case he signs.
12:22But at this point, it's hard to envision the team taking a chance on him without maybe any potential fallout from it,
12:29just given the fact that it's such a prominent case and high-profile player or former player.
12:34I don't know. I don't have a lot of high aspirations for Tyreek Hill compared to where we were at a couple weeks ago.
12:42Great. All right. I mean, still, I feel like he could go out there and be all right, but yeah.
12:49All right. We'll even be allowed to. Yeah, it's a complicated situation.
12:53Did I say Ty Johnson was warned about his fumbles?
12:56No, you said James Cook. Well, people were telling me that I didn't.
13:01I thought you said James Cook. I meant James Cook.
13:04James Cook was warned about his fumbles. He's warned.
13:07Let's finish up the news and notes here. Lad McConkie and Quentin Johnston have a chance to play this week, whereas Trey Harris is week to week.
13:16They're facing the Chiefs. Then they have a bye.
13:19Lad McConkie's on the Worryometer. I do have some interesting stats about McConkie.
13:23I'll just tell you real quick. The pressure rate for Justin Herbert this year is about 45%, I think.
13:29When he has thrown to Lad McConkie, his pressure rate is about 17%.
13:34So, because of McConkie's role. He's going downfield a lot more.
13:37He's lining up out wide more. So, he needs a clean pocket, basically, to throw to McConkie.
13:43And, obviously, that's tough. Let's see what else we got in terms of injuries.
13:48Jalen Coker is on track to play this week.
13:51For the Bengals, tight end Tanner Hudson's out for the season.
13:54He's, you know, sometimes running routes and getting targets.
13:57And Joe Brady says he wants to get Dalton Kincaid more involved.
14:01So, maybe don't drop Kincaid just yet. The Rams are going to be without their left tackle, Alaric Jackson, for two games.
14:08Although, he will appeal that suspension. Rashawn Slater is on IR for the Chargers.
14:13And Joe Alt is going to see a specialist.
14:16So, they're going to be without their tackles, it seems, for a while.
14:20I don't know for sure with Alt, but that's not good.
14:24Carolina right tackle, Taylor Moten, could make his season debut this week.
14:28New England left tackle, Will Campbell, is week to week.
14:31And Jacksonville left tackle, Anton Harrison, is out at least three to five weeks.
14:36Tough break for them. And they get Houston in London this week.
14:40And I'll just leave it at that. Let's get into some buy lows here.
14:44Jamie, who are you buying low on? Well, you mentioned that the Eagles.
14:49The schedule coming up is very favorable. Hopefully, the two main guys are going to be healthy in terms of Saquon Barkley and Devontae Smith.
14:57That will obviously help Jalen Hurts. And I think Dallas Goddard coming back last week, you know, shake off the rust.
15:04Hopefully, he's going to be fine rest of season.
15:07And clearly, the offensive line, which was expected to be a strength, is no longer going to be a strength.
15:14But I don't think it's going to be a disaster based on what we saw last week against Jacksonville.
15:20So I think just looking at the overall picture and how everybody feels about Philadelphia, it's easy to go and try and
15:27trade for these guys while their value is so low.
15:30So you're not going to be able just to get Devontae Smith and Saquon Barkley for free.
15:36You have to give up something probably pretty significant to get them.
15:40But now is the time to try and do that before, you know, both come back and maybe do something this week against Carolina.
15:48And who would you rather have? Devontae Smith or Saquon Barkley?
15:52Smith. Yeah. Agreed. Agree? Yeah. Are you coming around on this, Adam?
15:56Because you were very hesitant about buying the Eagles on Sunday morning and Sunday night when I said it.
16:02So this came up on Beyond the Box score.
16:05If you look at the worst, the five worst offenses in football right now, I can't remember the bottom three.
16:12Tennessee and Miami are definitely in there. I'm forgetting one.
16:15The fourth. The Chargers. Yes, thank you. And those are teams where I'm not necessarily looking at a buy low, right?
16:22Maybe McConkie. But the fourth worst team is Denver.
16:25The fifth worst offense is Philadelphia. And I feel very differently about Denver and Philadelphia.
16:30Like, I'm much more concerned about Denver. But I do think that there are some signs here for Philadelphia that we're ignoring.
16:37First of all, their offensive line easily could be a disaster.
16:41Their right tackle, Markel Bell, is a rookie who's not playing well.
16:45They, you know, they don't have Juergens. They don't have Johnson.
16:48It could be horrible or it could just be bad.
16:52But one game isn't going to change my mind.
16:55Also, like they're one of the, they have the lowest three and out percentage in football or the worst three and out percentage in football.
17:03And they haven't played a tough schedule. You know, like they've played what?
17:07They've played. They played the Rams. Commanders, Titans, and Bears.
17:10Like that, those aren't tough games. And they also play the Rams and Jags.
17:15I think you, yeah, go ahead. I think you have to just know what you're getting.
17:20You're not getting the players that you drafted, or at least right now you're not getting the players that you drafted.
17:27You're still getting very good players though. So the offense has not worked with the new coordinator.
17:33The offensive line has changed. The players are battling through injuries, you know, especially in the case of Saquon, he's older.
17:40So I think you just have to be realistic.
17:43Like you're not drafting maybe a borderline number one running back or wide receiver, which is where they were drafted.
17:50You're probably drafting a number two guy, as we discussed last week, Adam, that Barkley, if we were redrafting right now, would
17:57be around three pick at the earliest. Smith would probably be around four pick at the earliest.
18:02So, you know, you're looking at players that are, have lower values and lower rest of season outlooks, but can still be serviceable starters.
18:10And so, again, as a matter of what the trade compensation would be, I think it's worth exploring it just to find out.
18:18And look, the fifth worst team, the fifth worst offense in football last year was the Saints.
18:24So it's not like you can't have a great player.
18:27I still think Devontae Smith could be just as good as we drafted him to be.
18:32I do too. He has one of the highest target shares in the NFL when he's on the field.
18:39And they might be throwing more. That's the other factor.
18:42Yeah. But they didn't have Barkley last week. And the thing about Barkley, we can get it.
18:47I mean, he was on the worry-ometer. Yeah, we'll save it for the worry-ometer.
18:52Let's take a break and we'll get to Heath and Dave's by lows.
18:56We'll tell you who to sell high on. And we'll be right back on fantasy football today.
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22:18I am buying low on Brees Hall. We always like to buy low on injured players and Carnell Tate, who we all
22:26got really excited about and then he had a complete no-show last week.
22:30But I still believe in the talent. I think he has shown very well so far this season and I would expect
22:37Carnell Tate to be a border, not even to borderline, a top 24 wide receiver rest of season.
22:43Would you rather have Jalen Waddell or Carnell Tate?
22:46Tate. Tate. Wow. Dave, Jamie, Waddell or Tate? Still Waddell, but it's close.
22:50It's definitely close. I will take Waddell. Okay. Heath, you know, this question has come up several times this week now.
22:57With Braylon Allen playing pretty well, does that make you nervous about buying low on Brees Hall?
23:03You know, they did this weird thing where they made Braylon Allen the third down back and like that was how they were spelling Brees Hall.
23:12I am hopeful after they've seen him as a rusher and he's actually not had much success catching the ball during this
23:19stretch without Brees Hall that we get, I think you're going to see more carries for Braylon Allen.
23:25I'm hopeful that Brees Hall is just playing on third downs because that's where he's best.
23:30And he did have 10 catches in two full games and one partial game to start the year.
23:36So I think he's going to be better in full PPR than non-PPR if Allen takes more of a rushing role.
23:43But everybody's in a committee, almost. And so yes, it'll be a split, but I'm hopeful that the split changes just a
23:50little bit when Hall comes back and Allen's used more where he's good as a rusher and Hall's used more as a pass catcher.
23:58Two teams that have terrible run defenses this year, Buffalo and Miami.
24:02The Jets play them three times between week seven and 12 and the Chargers.
24:07I really like the Brees Hall call. You do?
24:10Okay. I do. All right, Dave. Who are your...
24:13Oh, actually, let me throw out some Brees Halls.
24:16Sorry. Brees Hall or Chase Brown? I have Brees higher.
24:19Yeah, neither one of them is going to play this week probably.
24:23So yeah, I'll go Brees Hall. I know Chase Brown isn't playing this week.
24:28Yeah. Brees Hall or DJ Moore? Hall. Brees. Hall.
24:31Really? Interesting. Really? Dave, we're up to you and your bylaws.
24:34Dak Prescott is still throwing to two of the best receivers in fantasy.
24:39His numbers haven't been amazing. And it's the exact same script as last year.
24:43Defense has not taken a step forward. Offensive line is still solid.
24:47I wish it was a little bit better. They didn't play great on Thursday.
24:52Maybe they can rectify that. But Dak Prescott has numbers to get.
24:56And so if you're struggling at quarterback, he's the one to go and target.
25:01Love it. Okay. Is that it? I thought you had one more.
25:04I do. Basial Tootin. Just love the opportunities he's been getting in Jacksonville.
25:09I don't see any reason why they would take him off the field for Chris Rodriguez.
25:14And two weeks removed from him having almost an amazing game.
25:18Penalties suck. And I would imagine that he's one of these backs that will eventually put together a game where it's 15
25:25plus touches and he gets a couple of long runs with a touchdown.
25:29I don't think it's going to happen this week.
25:32So we've got some time on the Basial Tootin buy low.
25:36Next week is probably even better. But if you wanted to get ahead of it and the price is right, Basial Tootin
25:43is a running back that you can go after.
25:46I'll add this. I'm in a keeper league and our running backs just got absolutely decimated.
25:51Omari and Hampton is our best running back. That tells you how it is.
25:56We already made one trade to acquire James Cook giving up future draft picks.
26:01We might make another for Basial Tootin, hopefully getting him at a lower price, obviously a lower price than James Cook, but
26:08certainly a lower price just based on what he's been doing.
26:12And then hopefully after the Jaguars buy, we see him go off and have himself a good second half of the year.
26:19I think I saw a clip from beyond the box score.
26:23I don't know who said it, but I thought it was well said that Basial Tootin may just be a better football
26:30player than he is a fantasy football player. Adam Azer.
26:33You don't want to argue with Jacob Gibbs about Basial Tootin.
26:37Oh, I've been down that road a couple times in the last month.
26:41I think this is one of the maybe kind of hidden storylines coming up in the next month that I'm afraid this
26:48offensive line for Jacksonville could derail the offensive success.
26:51Tootin already ranks dead last in yards before contact per rush attempt.
26:55Now they just lost an offensive lineman for the next month.
26:59It was a unit that we kind of talked about was kind of walking a tight wire coming into the year.
27:06Yeah, he's still averaging 4.3 yards per carry. He is really good, but he also has 10 targets in five games.
27:13So first of all, he plays Houston this week.
27:16He's a really good trap back. Is he? So I try to compare him to Bucky Irving.
27:22I think they're very similar. Good call. Right? But Jacob's point was like the Jaguars' offensive environment is so much better than the Bucs' offensive environment.
27:30I agree. That's a very good point. Where do you guys stand on Tootin versus Bucky?
27:35Tootin, better player. Bucky, better PPR. That's a great way to put it.
27:40Bucky, better player. Tootin, better offensive environment. Who would you rather have on your fantasy team if you could pick one?
27:47I would pick Bucky. Bucky. Would you really? Okay.
27:50And the thing is with him, he had, I think, seven, four, and four targets in three games with Baker Mayfield.
27:57Right. So that's what we're hoping for here. Who's a bigger threat to lose goal line carries?
28:02Tootin or like, yeah, like who's going to lose more goal line carries?
28:07Who's going to get there more often? It's probably going to be Tootin.
28:11I don't know. Who's going to score more touchdowns, I guess is the question.
28:15I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I think they're the Spider-Man in a lot of ways.
28:21You know, there's a lot of similarities just in how they're used and the players that are in the backfield with them.
28:29In the case of Tampa Bay, there's two guys that you've got to have a little bit of concern about because Gainmo
28:36still has a little bit of a role. Obviously, Jacksonville is just two guys that touch the ball.
28:42Laquan Allen just plays on third downs. So I have more hope for Bucky just because of what Baker Mayfield will do for him.
28:50It just feels like Liam Cohen wants to keep Tootin in this role.
28:54Like he's going to give him occasional like the direct snap against Denver, you know, give him occasional goal line chances.
29:01But it just doesn't feel like enough. Okay. Yeah, it's a who has a better snap share this season, do you think?
29:08Oh, I don't know. I'm going to guess Tootin.
29:11I would say Bucky. No. Yeah, I don't Tootin.
29:14I have no idea. Let's see. I'm looking it up.
29:18Bucky's at 61%. Tootin's at 56%. Yeah. Very interesting.
29:21My numbers are lower but similar. Bucky ahead of Tootin.
29:24And look, this is a very interesting week for Bucky.
29:27If you want to, you know, talk about it now.
29:31I have him as a self-high candidate. Yeah, sure.
29:34This game that he just had against one of the worst defenses in the NFL without Baker Mayfield.
29:40And then I want to see if Todd Bowles backs up what he said, which is this is who we are.
29:47Basically meaning like a running team and Bucky's our guy.
29:50Show me. Show us. Prove it. Let Bucky go.
29:53Let him be a goal line option again. Let him, you know, carry your team.
29:58He's got the potential to be great. We've seen it several times in his career.
30:03It just hasn't been consistent for a full season.
30:06So I think if he stays healthy, there's a lot to love about him.
30:10But it's just hard to buy. So if you can trade him for something great at this point, that's something I would explore.
30:18All right. Last point. Carries inside the three. Amongst the Jaguars and the Bucs, Basial leads the way and carries.
30:25He's got three. Sean Tucker and Chris Rodriguez are tied for two.
30:29Bucky Irving has one. So if you, if you wanted to know like who wins on that tiebreaker, obviously the Jaguars do
30:36because they get closer to the goal line just in general.
30:39But Basial Tootin does lead the way there with three.
30:43I want to tie together the sell high and the buy low.
30:47Bucky or Brees the rest of the season? I have Brees higher.
30:51I would take Brees. I would take Brees. By the way, this is surprising to me.
30:56Just looking this up now. If you look at plays run inside the five yard line, Jacksonville is averaging 1.4 per game.
31:03Tampa Bay is averaging 1.3 per game. For completely different reasons.
31:07Because Jacksonville scores from further away. And Tampa Bay doesn't get there.
31:11Yeah. I guess let's take... Oh, that's from the three yard line.
31:15Not the five yard line. Let's take a look at...
31:18It's interesting that it's that close though. Points per game.
31:22I just want to see how they do. The Jaguars are 11th in points per game.
31:27And Tampa's 25th. So if you think they're like the same player, basically, you should probably hit your wagon to the guy who's on the much better offense.
31:36Then again, could Tampa Bay's offense get better? I suppose it could.
31:40Well, and Bucky gets more targets. You talked about it before the year though.
31:45How are running backs good on bad offenses? They catch passes.
31:48They catch a bunch of... Yeah, I think Bucky...
31:51When Baker's back, Bucky's reception upside is maybe triple Tootin's.
31:55Right. We didn't really see it when Allen was injured at the start of the season for Tootin.
32:01That was the hope. He was going to be more involved in the passing game.
32:06I don't know why Liam Cohen doesn't set him free.
32:09I think part of it is that Trevor Lawrence...
32:12Pass rejection is a problem. Trevor Lawrence doesn't throw that much.
32:15And I don't think that's by design. They just haven't run that many plays.
32:20So it could be better, but it's not going to be Bucky territory in terms of...
32:25Well, and you got Parker Washington and Brenton Strange and Josh Cameron.
32:29Can't really... So if I'm trading Bucky Irving, am I trading him for Saquon Barkley?
32:34I don't know if that's... I'd rather have Bucky at this point.
32:38Yeah, it's close. Am I trading him for A.J.
32:41Brown? Yes. That one's a square deal. I'd probably...
32:44Close enough to a square deal. But I was lower...
32:48Yeah, I was lower on Brown, so... Would you trade Bucky Irving for...
32:52Let's see. Quinchon Judkins and... Mike Evans? Yes. I think Bucky for Evans would be a square deal.
32:58Yeah, if you're getting something on top of it, I think it's worth it.
33:02Yeah, it's a monster deal. Okay. All right. Let's go to Dave's sell highs.
33:07Dave, who are your sell highs? Oh, Jamie, did you have one?
33:11I'm sorry. No, I had two. Dak and two.
33:14I can give you a third one if you want one.
33:18No, no. I was asking Jamie if he had another third one.
33:22I did. I had DeAndre Swift just with the...
33:25You sort of... I thought you asked me. ...touched on it with the news that he's dealing with some potential injuries here.
33:32And while there is no Kyle Mononga, maybe now's the time to flip him.
33:37Yeah. No, Dave, I did ask you first. Then I jumped back to Jamie.
33:41That was my fault. All right. Who are your sell highs, Dave?
33:45Can Jalen Warren keep it up? That's the question you have to ask yourself.
33:50Now, obviously, if you have Jalen Warren, it's awesome.
33:53You're not worried about Rico Doddle. You're not worried about the offense.
33:57You're not worried about a thing. But he's working on some career highs right now that would blow away what he did last year.
34:05For example, he's averaging almost 18 touches per game.
34:08I'm reading this off of True Media right now.
34:11He is averaging 82 rush yards per game. His previous high was last year at 59.
34:165.9 yards per carry is huge. 5.2 targets per game is almost one target.
34:21It's effectively one target per game higher than he's had in his entire career.
34:25I'm not saying that he's going to suck. But I am saying that there's a chance that he does come down a
34:33little bit from this unbelievable sugar high that he's been on the last couple of weeks.
34:38And so if you can turn him into a player that we'll talk about as a top 12 option later on in
34:45this show, I say do it because I don't think any of us are going to have.
34:51I mean, I'll speak for myself. I don't have Jalen Warren in my top 12 and the dude's averaging almost 19 PPR points per game.
34:59Top 12 overall. Yeah, not top 12 overall. Top 12 running back.
35:03Different story. He's got let's see. He's got four or more targets in every game, which is really encouraging.
35:09So is he the best running back we've talked about so far?
35:13We've talked about Brees Hall and and to and Bucky and Barkley.
35:17I mean, he's he's the most and Dave's not wrong.
35:21He's the most obvious sell high candidate you could find.
35:24Like, you know, you you just look at where he's at right now and just knowing that there's some level of competition coming.
35:31Like you can make the case for Chuba Hubbard.
35:34You can make the case maybe for I mean, DeAndre Swift.
35:38You can make the case for these guys that are getting this chance right now and say, OK, how is this sustainable?
35:45It's not. Yeah. Romandre is about to enter that realm himself.
35:49Would you rather have Chuba Hubbard or Jalen Warren?
35:52They're back to back in the trade chart. And Chuba is a spot higher.
35:57Yeah. All right. But we still like him. I mean, would you take him in the second round, the third round if you were drafting today?
36:05Somewhere around there. Jalen Warren. I think I think it would be probably round three.
36:10Yeah. And again, this isn't to disrespect and say that he stinks or he's a below average player or anything like that
36:17because people love to put words in our mouths.
36:20It's just an opportunity is there to turn him into a stud.
36:24Why wouldn't you do it? OK, but the thing is, let's say you wanted to trade him for Chase Brown and something.
36:32I'm like a little nervous about Chase Brown. I could understand.
36:35Yeah, I don't blame you. It could really work out.
36:39But I would want to. What would be the and something if you were trading Jalen Warren for Chase Brown and something?
36:46Like a little one. Jalen Warren by himself? Yeah.
36:49Jalen Warren for Chase Brown and? I think that's like DJ Moore-ish, Luther Burden-ish range.
36:54I was going to say Carnival is a little better than that.
36:58Yep. I'd shoot a little higher than that if you could.
37:01OK. Well, I mean, obviously, it's too tired for that, but I think that's what this is realistic.
37:07Right. DJ Moore, I think, is realistic. Well, then he'd be my by-low, DJ Moore.
37:12But Dave, who else is your sell high? I sent you a Ramondre Stevenson.
37:17You think I read your email? No, I'm just kidding.
37:20It looks like there's a graphic for it, so I would say so.
37:25Yes. Yeah. I mean, he's got an opportunity now to lead the way for the Patriots run game.
37:31I don't think he's a bad player either. It's just another opportunity to turn him into something better.
37:37You're going to pair Ramondre Stevenson with another player on your team, and you go and you get a top 12 player.
37:44And we know that eventually Travion Henderson will be back, and I don't think we're expecting Travion Henderson to be a dynamo.
37:51But what have we seen the last couple of weeks before Travion got hurt?
37:56They were splitting the rushing. Yeah. It'll take something off of Ramondre's plate.
38:00OK. Heath, sell high on. Javante Williams. Ted Rowe McMillan.
38:03Awesome players. Let's sell real high. I am just a little nervous about the way that Javante is getting this done.
38:10Six touchdowns in five games. The rushing efficiency has been awful basically every week but one.
38:16And there is a – it doesn't have to be immediate.
38:19He could have a good game against the Packers.
38:22He has kind of a mixed schedule for the next month, and then it goes like about as bad as it can get.
38:30Eagles, Seahawks, bye, Rams, Jacksonville. I don't think he's going to keep scoring touchdowns at quite this rate.
38:36He's probably going to score double-digit touchdowns now. But he's currently like easily a top eight running back, I think.
38:42I would like to sell at that cost. Wow.
38:45OK, OK. Would you rather have Jalen Warren or Javante Williams?
38:49Javante. Probably Javante. OK. Yep. He does have 20 targets in five games, which is nice.
38:54But OK, I could see your point. That is a really, really tough stretch.
38:59Sell high. Starting in – yeah. 12 – starting in week 12.
39:03It's pretty bad. And honestly, like the run defense even starting in week 10.
39:08San Francisco, Tennessee, then Philadelphia, Seattle. All right. Ted Arroa.
39:11All right. Why? Why Ted Arroa? I mean, he's very, very good.
39:15And again, I think I was a little higher on him in draft season than consensus.
39:20And so I'm not saying he's going to go back to what he was last year.
39:25I think he's still going to be better than he was last year.
39:30But Jalen Coker's coming back. And I think this is a true 1A, 1B situation where Coker might be better half of the games.
39:38In fact, when they've both been healthy over like the last eight games, Coker's been better.
39:43So I just think he's probably going to be a middle of the road wide receiver too and not a top 10 wide receiver like he's been.
39:52This is the exact same scenario with Devonta Adams.
39:55Like you had the one huge spike game without Coker on the field.
39:59And he's still going to be amazing with Coker on the field, as Heath just said, but just not as amazing.
40:06So maximize value. I'd much rather have Ted Rowe McMillan than Adams.
40:10Oh, I agree. Yeah, but the same thing. It's like you saw how good he could be when he's a solo act.
40:17And you also saw what he looks like when he's in a duo.
40:22You know what? The second I said much rather.
40:25I was going to say, like dial that back a little bit.
40:29Devonta Adams is still in his goal line wide receiver role.
40:32Well, I don't think they went 13 personnel near the goal line in this game much.
40:38And that's what I want to see. Like their tight ends are kind of injured right now.
40:43So when, well, at least one of them is when they're, well, they don't, they don't have to.
40:49If you just put Devonta Adams and Puka Nakua next to each other on the goal line, and they've got like four
40:57variations of what those two guys are going to do.
41:00And you can't cover them both. But in week one, they went 13 personnel near the goal line and Puka Nakua was in.
41:07And in 2025, it was Devonta Adams almost exclusively before his injury.
41:11So that's what concerned me. And then Devonta Adams' target share with Puka Nakua healthy is, is bad.
41:17It's like Terrell McMillan doesn't have that issue. Obviously it was good last year for Adams.
41:23Like things are just different than they were last year.
41:26So things could go back to that. Well, and it depends on how much is Stafford going to throw.
41:32Cause like his target share is bad. If we're looking at percentages, he also has 16 targets in the last two games with Puka.
41:40I know, but. I think it's six in week one.
41:44So like if he's getting seven targets a game and two of them are in the end zone every week.
41:50In week five, I have the Rams with, I have Puka with 18 snaps and 13 personnel.
41:56Devonta with three. Right. That's a, that's a big deal, right?
41:59Like that was not the case last year, especially near the goal line.
42:04All right. Uh, that's, that's, those are some good names.
42:07Thank you very much, guys. We have to get to our top 12 for the rest of the season.
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43:07So you can see Heath, Dave and Jamie tomorrow, uh, going over some rankings for week six break top 12 breaker top 12.
43:14Let's do the top 12. Let's start with Heath Cummings, your top 12 rest of season.
43:20This is going to look a lot like everybody else's top 12 for the rest of the season until you get to the second half, maybe.
43:28So I've got it Gibbs, Bijan, JSN, Chase, Kenneth Walker, Puka, Brock Bowers, Amun Ross, St.
43:33Brown, Jonathan Taylor, Drake London, Zay Flowers, CD Lamb.
43:36Flowers. Oh man. Yeah. I can't really argue much with that.
43:40Gibbs, Bijan, JSN, Chase, Walker, Puka, Bowers, seven, St.
43:43Brown. I guess we're not worried about Amun Ross, St.
43:46Brown. Jonathan Taylor, Drake London, Zay Flowers, CD Lamb.
43:49Very cool. All right. Let's see Dave's top 12.
43:52Gibbs, Bijan, JSN, Walker, Puka, Chase is sixth for me.
43:56CD is seventh. Amun Ross is eighth. Derek Henry is ninth.
43:59Brock Bowers is 10th. James Cook is 11th. Drake London is 12th.
44:03Okay. All right. So we have Henry in there.
44:06I pointed out on beyond the box where he has a pretty tough schedule coming up and he's not like, he's not running all that well.
44:15It's like 4.2 yards per carry or something. You have Henry in there.
44:19Heath doesn't. You have Lamb seventh. Heath has Lamb 12th.
44:22You don't have Flowers in there. You do have James Cook.
44:26And you don't have Taylor. He'd probably be like 13.
44:29He's right outside. Yeah. All right, Jamie, let's see your top 12.
44:33Yeah. Most of the same. Uh, the only differences I guess would be Jefferson and Olave in the top 12 for me, uh, compared to everybody else.
44:42Justin Jefferson, eight Henry, 10 Olave, 11 Bauer. So you have, you have a lot of Lave over London.
44:49I do Bowers. Everybody has Bowers, right? Dave, you have Bowers, 10.
44:53Heath, you have him seventh. Jamie has him 12th.
44:56Everyone has the same top six in some order Gibbs and Bijon.
44:59And then the next four are Ken Walker and the three top receivers.
45:04JSN, Puka and Jamar Chase. You all have JSN as your number one receiver.
45:08Um, Dave and Jamie have chase as number three and Puka too.
45:12Whereas Heath has JSN, then chase them Puka at receiver.
45:16But the top six is the same. Everyone has lamb.
45:19Everyone has Bowers. Everyone has St. Brown. I'm on Ross St.
45:23Brown. And then the last three spots are divided between Taylor, London, flowers, Henry, Cook, and Olave.
45:28And Jefferson for me. And Jefferson. And Jefferson. Is there anything, any name in there that you guys think, no way, he doesn't belong in the top 12?
45:38No. Can make the case for Taylor. How come?
45:41Just because we, we know what happens when the Colts start losing.
45:44His production typically goes down. Really? And there isn't, there isn't, well, look how he does in wins versus losses.
45:51Now this year might be a little bit different, but for the most part, like you, you have to worry about the direction of this offense.
46:00Yeah. Yeah. They're terrible too. Let's see. They're, they're two.
46:03They, his big games were, or his losses were weeks one, two, and five.
46:08And he scored 25, 29, and 11 fantasy points in the losses.
46:12He does get three to four targets. He had 9.2 PPR points and a win.
46:17Yeah. Against Houston. Yeah. It's just an argument. I guess you could also say he's got Minnesota and Jacksonville coming up soon, but whatever.
46:25All right. Like, yeah. Yeah. And how about flowers?
46:28How about Heath goes out there for flowers? Dave, Jamie, you guys agree?
46:32Disagree? You didn't put him in your top 12, but do you think it's justifiable?
46:37There, there's six to eight receivers that you can say belong in the top 12.
46:42Christian Watson's having a great season. Flowers, uh, for me, Jefferson, um, both of those guys have London there.
46:48You know, it, it's a lot of it. You know, there's just so many different, I think, players that are having great
46:55seasons and, and you could probably make an argument, you know, for Garrett Wilson and a few others that, you know, are going to finish the season strong.
47:05So, um, I don't, you know, Henry was, was a little tough for me, but otherwise really, I think you could say
47:12there's three running backs and that might be at that position.
47:16Yeah. Running backs having a tough year, tough year for, for chase Brown.
47:20It's interesting. Like we did not include, we left, you know, you know who the RB four is right now?
47:26Warren. No. Uh, I think I know. Oh, Kyron.
47:29Kyron. Yeah. Yep. That's like, yeah, his role is fantastic.
47:33Oh, it's, it's the bet. Maybe like this is super Kyron Williams rule.
47:37If it sticks. Right. That's the F that's why he's not a top 12.
47:42He's definitely, I thought about it on like 50 points in Yolo Heath with, uh, Stafford, Kyron and Puka Monday night.
47:49And when Coram got the touchdown, I was like, Oh God, I'm going to talk about Yolo to me today.
47:55It's the worst loss of my fantasy career. Well, first off, I'll talk about it.
48:00I was, I was playing a team that like probably should still be tanking, but they got tired of tanking.
48:07I'm not going to say their name. And I was like a 40 point favorite.
48:12And I like, I, this team, every bad player that they started against me went off.
48:17And I mean, like really went off. And so I was, uh, I'll find the, uh, the results.
48:23Yeah. Dave, you can, you can give a name.
48:26Oh, I'm so mad about this. So I went in to Monday night football down by like, um, 21.
48:32And I had Devante Adams or it must've been 18 or something.
48:36He scored exactly what I needed. And this person had, is it Quentin Lake who made a tackle in overtime to beat
48:44me by 0.3 points, 0.3 points that he had.
48:47Um, I like, I don't think he has the same starting lineup that he did that week, but a small JP Ryan, he started against me.
48:55Isaiah likely he started against me at 0.7 DeMario Douglas.
48:58Oh, I was, I'm still angry about it. Savage P right into Mario Douglas and Quentin Lake for the win.
49:05That is amazing. Uh, all right, we got to take a break.
49:09We're going to quickly, uh, talk about the Thursday night game.
49:13It's not that much of a brain buster for you fantasy people out there.
49:17And we'll be right back and we'll have the worryometer to end the show and try to grade your trades.
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51:25Visit yearup.org to learn more. Welcome back. I just looked at his roster.
51:30That's amazing. And I came into the week as, I think, the highest-scoring team in the league and lost to Demario Douglas and Samajay P.
51:38Ryan and Quentin Lake. Quentin Lake. All right. Seattle is...
51:41I think you can blame the loss on Tyler Shuck, Heath.
51:45He did score 1.8 points. Yeah. Did he? I had him at negative points last week.
51:50Yeah. This league, it's only one point for an interception.
51:54Okay. Lost. Yeah. Seattle is at Denver. Denver. Stat of the game.
51:58Bo Nix is averaging 2.8 yards per carry on non-kneel downs.
52:01The previous two years, he averaged 5.9 and 5.7 yards per carry on non-kneel downs.
52:06This year, it's 2.8. All this talk about what's wrong with Denver's offense.
52:10Maybe he's just not healthy coming off the ankle surgery, but obviously, they are an issue, that offense.
52:16And now they're facing Seattle. It is a short week.
52:20They're going to Denver. Could be tough in the altitude, but question.
52:24I mean, let's do this one no more than five minutes.
52:27Other than Jackson Smith and Jigba, is there anyone else in this game that is a must start or that you even want to start Heath?
52:36I'm probably going to start Emmanuel Wilson. So I wouldn't call him a must start.
52:41He's an RB2. And on some of my rosters, I'm pretty excited about starting him.
52:46But other than that... Should I make the DST joke?
52:49I've got 23 players I don't mind starting in this game.
52:53The Seahawks, for sure. What about the Broncos DST?
52:56I don't mind the Broncos as a DST. I'm not going to drop them.
53:00Right. And Emmanuel Wilson, I think, is a start.
53:03Darnold's been very turnover prone, so... Yes, he has.
53:06Is there any case for Darnold this week? I mean, they're obviously banged up.
53:11The Broncos defense, especially if Foufanga doesn't play. Doubtful that Patrick Sertan plays at this point.
53:16But still, you're looking at what he's done. It's been a sliding scale the last two weeks, where he's passed for under
53:24200 yards each of the last two games and has combined three touchdowns and three interceptions.
53:29So you've still got to give a little credit to Denver's defense.
53:33This is expected to be one of the lowest scoring games of the week.
53:38This just feels like, you know, if you missed the game, you didn't miss much.
53:42Yeah. We're going to get some questions from the chat.
53:46Dobbins coming off a good game. So... You saw what Sean Payne said, right?
53:50That, you know, feeding him was something that, once he got going, that they were comfortable with.
53:56You wonder if that happens again. It's just tough to trust against Seattle.
54:00And usually the way that you beat Seattle with your running backs is by throwing to them.
54:06So hopefully Harvey has some production. Because last week...
54:09Big day for Tyler Bidet. Yeah. You know, the thing is, Harvey's role did not change.
54:14He ran the same amount of... Well, he didn't run the same amount of routes, but his route percentage rate was basically the same.
54:22His third down roll pretty much was the same.
54:25He just had this unbelievably high target per route run rate the last two weeks.
54:30And this past week, it was unbelievably low. So he could still...
54:34I mean, I guess I'm going to say four catches.
54:37I'm just going to throw that out there. Which is not really enough for me to start, considering he basically gets almost no carries.
54:45But that's just a guess. I don't know. Do you have your projections for this, Heath?
54:51How many catches are you expecting? Probably three. Yeah.
54:54All right. Yeah. I think the snap share was a little lower.
54:58They were playing a competitive game, and then they had a lead, and Dobbins got hot against a bad run defense.
55:05So I don't blame them for leaning into Dobbins over Harvey.
55:08But I don't know if they're going to be...
55:11Like, to Jamie's point, I don't think they're going to be able to get away with that.
55:17I don't think they're going to be able to run that well against Seattle.
55:21I think the snaps were probably lower. The route participation was the same.
55:26They didn't throw that much in a win against the terrible Chargers, you know?
55:30But he ran only 13 routes. He had run 15 to 19 the previous three weeks.
55:36But the route participation rate was basically exactly the same.
55:39Harvey just didn't get targeted. So when we look at waiver wire running backs, like if Damian...
55:45You're not going to know necessarily. But if I told you Saquon Barkley were out, would you start Damian Pierce over either
55:52or both of the Broncos running backs? Both. Yes.
55:55Both? I'd consider him over both in non-PPR and over Dobbins in PPR.
55:59And... Do you still have Harvey ahead of Dobbins in PPR?
56:03I do, yes. Okay. Because you think different game scripts here.
56:06Different game script, yep. And... And it's zone coverage, and Bo Nix is going to be throwing...
56:12Well, he's already throwing short, short, short, short, short.
56:15But it's only going to continue now against cover three and cover six.
56:19Would you start Emmanuel Wilson or... Marshawn Lloyd against the Cowboys?
56:23I'll take Wilson. Wilson. Wilson or... No, I'm not going to do that injury situation.
56:28Wilson or Michael Wilson at the Rams? Michael Wilson.
56:31Michael Wilson. I might have Emmanuel higher. All right.
56:34I mean, obviously, it's tough... Mind him this week.
56:37He's a high-end number two running back. The Broncos' run defense on paper doesn't look that good, but when they face, like,
56:44normal running backs, I feel like they've been pretty solid.
56:48They've struggled against great running backs, if I recall.
56:51I'm looking at it now. They struggled against Kenneth Walker.
56:54They were okay against Tootin. They struggled against Kyron.
56:57They were okay against McCaffrey. Like, they faced a pretty tough schedule.
57:01And then they were good against Hampton. Give long run to Vidal.
57:05Right. Let's see if we have any questions from the chat.
57:08We're not going to start the tight ends. We're not going to start...
57:13Oh, Jalen Waddle. Talk about Jalen Waddle, I guess.
57:16But real quick... Can't start him. Chat questions. Emmanuel Wilson or Jalen Coker?
57:20Coker. Wilson. Coker in PPR. Emmanuel Wilson or Ashton Gentey in PPR?
57:24Wilson. Gentey. I believe I have Wilson higher. Dobbins or Keenan Allen, PPR?
57:28Allen. I agree. I think I have Dobbins. Harvey or Hampton?
57:32Hampton. I still go Hampton. Waddle, Downs, or Abuka?
57:35Waddle. Abuka. Downs for me. Adam, break the tie.
57:38You don't get to do this on this show very often.
57:41I am going to go with... Do we think Baker Mayfield's going to play?
57:46No. No. Then I'm going to go with Jalen Waddle.
57:49Waddle, Coker, or Bourne? Coker. Coker. Yeah. I missed the question.
57:53It's Coker. Just say Coker. Coker. I think... Has Seattle really stopped a good wide receiver this year?
57:59What is it? I'm going to go with that model.
58:02No. You could argue that they have. AJ Brown was really bad while he played.
58:07Ladd McConkie had zero catches in the 40% of the snaps.
58:1130% of the snaps they played. Michael Wilson was terrible.
58:14So you could argue that they have. Mike Evans just destroyed them, though.
58:19Terry McLaurin had a big game against them, too.
58:22Bo Nix or Michael Pennix? Pennix. He plays. How about Broncos or Texans?
58:26DST. I'd go Broncos. Texans. I have to look at my DST rankings.
58:30I have Broncos one spot ahead of the Texans.
58:33Six and seven. I have Broncos one spot ahead of the Texans.
58:37Perfect. Are they six and seven? Five and six.
58:40What do you guys have, Waddle? I have them as a borderline 2-3 receiver, and I hate it.
58:46Like 28? I think 26. Hey, wait, Heath. Where did you say you have the two DSTs?
58:52Five and six. 11. Now it's your turn. 32 and 67.
58:55Yes. Only humor that David and I get. All right.
58:59Well, that's it for Thursday Night Football. Na-na-na-na-na-na. Did I sell Jalen Waddle short?
59:03Should we talk more about him or no? No, I think it's pretty clear that he's in the flex conversation, and he's in our flex.
59:12Reluctant flex. Consult the rankings if you have any questions.
59:15It's pretty disappointing when you have four teams on a bye and all the injuries at that position.
59:21He's not more productive. I'd love to see him have a great game, and then I'd try to sell him.
59:27All right. Let's do the Worryometer. I don't know.
59:30Do we have to do Devontae Smith and Saquon Barkley, or should we move on?
59:35I don't think so. Call them sell. But we'd rather have Devontae Smith.
59:40I do think with Saquon Barkley, we need to see some stinking catches here.
59:44His route rate is so much lower than it was last year, and he's just not getting thrown at.
59:51But okay. Rob has Terry McLaurin on the Worryometer.
59:54He wants to know where we have him. Where are you guys on Terry McLaurin?
59:59Zero to 100. Two. 15. 41. 41. Two or 20, Dave?
60:02Two. Not worried at all. 2, 15, and 41.
60:05Oh, my. That's about 20. We'll just go with 20.
60:08Yeah, 19, 20, whatever. Yeah. Not worried, Dave, because we don't really – what does that mean?
60:14Because you don't have high expectations for him or just because he's fine?
60:18I think he'll eventually be fine, and he'll go back to being the number one target in the commander's offense.
60:25And I'm also hoping that Daniels can be a better thrower and get more volume, and that'll help, obviously, the target volume go up, up, up for McLaurin.
60:34I think he's a buy low guy. We almost have – I can almost – it feels weird to say it because
60:42he had his best year with Daniels, but it's just so obvious the target per outrun rate, it's exponentially better with Mariota than it is with Jaden Daniels.
60:51Year after year for Terry McLaurin. So with Jaden Daniels, it was 11.4% in week one.
60:56In week two, his target per outrun rate was 18% with Daniels and 42% with Mariota.
61:01And then it was 29% in week three with Mariota.
61:05Back down to 14% last week with Daniels. That's too low.
61:08It's usually like 21-ish. But it's usually like 31-ish with Mariota.
61:12So I just wanted to bring that up. And plus he has San Francisco this week, their seventh best, then a buy, then the Eagles, then the Rams.
61:21And, you know, Minnesota, Jacksonville in the playoffs. Got Houston later.
61:25That's a good point. You're making a good case.
61:28All right. He's probably going to be what you drafted him to be.
61:32Right? What? Depends when you drafted. What do you mean, Heath?
61:36Oh, like before the dig signing? Like are you saying that – I certainly don't think that when we get to the
61:43end of the season, his numbers are going to be what you drafted him to be.
61:48No, from here forward. From here forward? I don't know that I'd say probably.
61:53What do you think he's going to be? Boom bust number three wide receiver?
61:58Yeah, that's kind of what you – yeah. He's been outplayed so far by Stefan Diggs production-wise.
62:03And Diggs didn't play last week. We don't know when Diggs is going to return.
62:08That's obviously a big factor. And then it may be a benefit to him if Mariota is healthy, if Jay Daniels gets
62:16hurt or they shut down Jay Daniels because he's performed well with Mariota over the last two years.
62:22So there's a lot of moving parts I think with this.
62:25Okay, from Mark Lowitz, Jeremiah Love. He wants Jeremiah Love on the Worryometer.
62:29Oh, it's McConkie. Yeah, there we go. Jeremiah Love.
62:3257. 87. Oh, dude, I'm like at 95. I'm almost to the point where I'm not worried because I'm just not doing
62:40anything with him other than keeping him on my bench.
62:43So this is a good one, Adam. So these numbers are way too big for me.
62:48I'm going to go with 81. Wow, 80.3. Hey, that was outstanding.
62:52Great job. Yeah, so we're very worried. What do you think has happened since week three when he played 64% of the snaps?
63:00He had 26 touches. He scored a touchdown. He was so good.
63:04He was burying Tyler Algier and everything has changed since then.
63:08Sounds like he got banged up. Sounds like the Cardinals aren't comfortable with him in a passing downs role or the hurry up offense.
63:15Offensive line has gotten worse. Game script is going to be the exact same thing pretty much every week for Arizona.
63:22And if his opportunities are limited, he's going to need explosive runs.
63:26And he's not able to deliver those. So is it the 81% Worryometer on Jeremiah Love short term or also?
63:33No, I think it's long term. Long term. Yeah, man.
63:36Long term for this year. Yeah. Yeah. When he forces himself to force the trade.
63:41Okay. I'm going to say this. My concern is until the fantasy playoffs.
63:46And then he's going to have a spectacular fantasy playoffs when everybody's scared to start him.
63:51Because that's the worst part of the way. He's so run down already.
63:55They don't have a bye until week 13. But then after that, then right after their bye, the fantasy playoffs starts and he gets Jets Saints Raiders.
64:04Would be nice. Let's go back to Lad McConkie here.
64:07I skipped him. So Worryometer on Lad McConkie. 78.
64:10What'd you say, Jamie? 65. Oh. 30. Oh. Oh, God.
64:14175. So that's like a 58-ish, something like that.
64:17Yeah, let's go to 58. Why not worry? Why not so worried?
64:2157.7. Let's go. Hey. We've really helped your math.
64:24Because we've only seen him play like one game healthy, three quarters of one game healthy.
64:29And he was awesome. I went back. I watched all of his targets from week one.
64:34Seven targets in three quarters. Then he got hurt his ribs.
64:38Five catches, 82 yards and a touchdown. What do you think the one common thing?
64:43Every single target, the same thing happened. In breaking rubber, try to kill him.
64:48Clean pocket. Oh. Every single throw. And I gave that stat that he's being targeted.
64:52When he's targeted, Justin Herbert has a 17% pressure rate.
64:56Now, I looked. I'd never really done this before.
64:59But when quarterbacks throw to their wide receivers, their pressure rate is lower than when it normally is.
65:05It makes sense, right? Because if you're being pressured, you're probably going to throw to a different position.
65:11You need time to throw to wide receivers. Not always.
65:14But McConkie, the point I'd make about him, I've made it before, his role has changed so far this year.
65:21He is playing more out. Used to be like two-thirds in the slot.
65:25Now it's two-thirds out wide. His average route depth has shot up.
65:29They're trying to make him like a deep X receiver, practically.
65:33That's not going to work on a team that has the worst offensive line in football, basically.
65:38I think they need to go back to him being in the slot, short area guy, yards after catch.
65:44That's kind of why I'm worried here. I don't think they can.
65:48They don't have enough receivers. Even when he comes back, Quentin Johnson may not play anytime soon.
65:54Trey Harris is going to miss some time with the hamstring injury.
65:58They don't have enough receivers to put him in the slot.
66:02I think Quentin Johnson's on his way back. Look, they have one game before their bye.
66:07They have Chiefs in the bye. Johnston will be back either this week or after.
66:12This week or after, I would agree with that.
66:15Or right after. He's there today. The next two games.
66:18He might get traded, Quentin Johnston. But also, you could see McConkie as being the only good player on the offense.
66:25And maybe they just get in ball as much as possible.
66:29Yeah. He's a tough one. He's a tough cookie here.
66:32Heath, I like how not worried you are today.
66:35I like the vibe. Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty worried.
66:38Yeah, okay. But it was McConkie and McLaurin. You were like, whatever.
66:42Who would you rather have? McConkie. Yeah, a lot.
66:45I have a few leagues. I have a few leagues with both McConkie and DJ Moore.
66:51And in my mind, I'm thinking like DJ Moore could come back and really change my season.
66:56I'm not feeling that way about McConkie. I was going to say, if I had a few teams with DJ Moore and
67:04Lad McConkie, I'd be thinking I'm not going to look at those teams anymore.
67:08Giant is worried about Josh Jacobs. Why do we think he's coming back?
67:12Worryometer on Jacobs. Coming back? Yeah. There's a lot to worry about with Josh.
67:1775%? Yeah. I'm going to say the exact same number.
67:20Just to make it easy on your map. You're 75% worried about him coming back?
67:25About having him on your team in general. It's week six.
67:29You've got to be worried that he's getting... Have we heard a word about him meeting with the commissioner?
67:35Because that's the thing that has to happen. Yeah, you're right.
67:39No, I'm going to drop him the week before he comes back.
67:43That was probably the day that it's announced. I'd be so mad.
67:47All right. Kurt wants... There's more to it than that, though.
67:51What shape is he in? Is he going to be ready to go?
67:55Is he immediately going to go back into 20 touches a game?
67:59Are we sure this offensive line is getting better?
68:02That's not me. Yeah, he'll be the lead running back.
68:05But he won't be 20 touches right out of the gate.
68:09No way. No. Kurt Huff wants the worry-ometer on Omari and Hampton.
68:13And I think we may have just broken the worry-ometer.
68:16The most worrisome guy. 95. Yeah. What did I say for Jeremiah?
68:20It's got to be the same for Hampton. I'd rather have Love.
68:24Yeah. Spider-Man meme. Love at least has a chance to talent.
68:28I don't know. He's way ahead of Val G.
68:31I guess. At least they started... When they fired Mike McDaniel, maybe things changed for Hampton.
68:36What a year. And then Danny Perez... The best thing would be if they just promote Adam Gase to be the audience coordinator.
68:44Oh, yeah. That'll fix it. Danny Perez says, Worry-ometer for Bijan Robinson's schedule.
68:48He has 12 games remaining. Eight of them are against teams that are currently top nine against running backs.
68:54Zero. Zero. Negative zero. Okay. Okay. Let's do two minutes on grade the trade.
68:59Tom in Vancouver, grade the trade. Would you trade Devante Adams for AJ Brown in a standard scoring 10-team league?
69:05Give up Adams, get Brown. I'd rather have Adams if it's standard.
69:09Yeah. So, F. I'll give... I'll say Brown, but it's pretty close to even.
69:14I think an F is a little harsh. You can't say grade the trade and then say, would you rather have and give us two players?
69:23Because if we just... We all say, what are we grading?
69:26I could do that. Listen, you grade the trade, but you'd rather have Adams, but it's a T-minus.
69:32What trade are we grading? He's asking, which of these two players would you rather have?
69:37We don't know which one he has or which ones he would be a player.
69:42He's asking about making a trade. He didn't grade the trade.
69:46Would you trade Devante Adams for AJ Brown? Right, but if you say grade the trade, there has to be a trade executed.
69:54That wasn't trade executed. Grade the trade, Adams for AJ Brown.
69:57Adams for AJ Brown, grade the trade. F. No.
70:00You can't tell me how to grade. All right.
70:03This is from Tiago in Brazil. Give up Devante...
70:06Oh my gosh, Heath. Give up Devante Williams and Tenerol McMillan.
70:10Get JSN and Samaje Pirine. I have Chase Brown.
70:13Javante and Teterol for JSN. Assuming you can fill the rest of your starting lineup spots, like it's a shallower league, I think it's an A.
70:22It's completely dependent on how deep the league is and who you have to start now because you're getting rid of those
70:29two guys, but JSN might not score them both by himself.
70:32Yep. It's almost dead even on the trade chart.
70:35B-. From Costa. 12-team half PBR. Give up Bucky and St.
70:39Brown. Get Bijon. I have Brian Robinson Jr. Bucky and St.
70:43Brown for Bijon? Bucky and St. Brown for Bijon.
70:46C-. B+. I will say in the context of his team, I won't read the whole thing, like he could get away
70:53with it because he can just start Bijon and Kenneth Walker and he has both handcuffs rest of the season.
71:00He's good at receiver. From Ryan, I have been offered Christian Watson and Bejal Tootin for my Parker Washington and Jalen Warren.
71:07No. That's a D minus. Jamie's really harsh today.
71:10F. All right. It's an F. All right. I'll give it an F too.
71:14From Kevin. Oh, wow. Yeah. No, I said I'll give it an F.
71:19You. Sorry. Kevin in St. Louis. Wow. Should I trade a Bucca for Woody Marks?
71:24No. Hmm. I'd rather have Marks. F. No, he's giving up a Bucca for Marks.
71:29Oh, A. It's dead even on the trade chart in PPR.
71:32A. C for Dave. No for me. A for Jamie.
71:36F and A. Wow. F and A. From Chris.
71:39Should I trade Woody Marks for Emmett Johnson if I have Kenneth Walker?
71:43Now you're giving up too much. No. Keep Woody Marks.
71:46I don't hate that. We're trading away a rising running back for a handcuff?
71:51Like, how good is Woody Marks going to be?
71:54It depends on your… Better than Emmett Johnson right now.
71:57He is, but you see the point here. It's like to just lock up that Chiefs backfield.
72:03It's not that bad. It's a move we made right before the trade deadline, if anything.
72:08The assumption would be, and it would probably be the right one, that Emmett Johnson just slides into Kenneth Walker's role, but
72:15I don't think he's going to be Ken Walker.
72:18No. And there's probably going to be somebody else there.
72:22Well, that would be Kareem Hunt. Emmett Johnson without Kenneth Walker on the field is worth more than Woody Marks, but that's not reality right now.
72:30Yeah. Right. Why would you not just have two running backs that you can potentially start?
72:36So I have a league where I have DeAndre Swift and Kenneth Walker, and I have Emmett Johnson and Kyle Mononga, and I'm really good at wide receiver.
72:45I don't need excess running backs, really. So I think… But what did you do this past week?
72:51I started Emmanuel Wilson. So you have excess running backs.
72:54Well, for another week, maybe. Yeah. Like, I picked up Emmanuel Wilson.
72:58Your roster's not frozen. You know, you can start someone else.
73:02And then when the Chiefs have a bye, it might have an issue.
73:06Or I'm sorry, when the Bears have a bye, it might have an issue.
73:11But I think the point is, like, there is some validity to just, like, locking up a backfield, even if you're giving away someone like Woody Marks.
73:20But I understand where you're coming from. All right.
73:23That's it for today's show. Oh, fine. I promised Dan I'd read his question.
73:27So he's two and three. He has DeAndre Swift and Chuba Hurt.
73:31Yeah. Should I trade Chase Brown and George Pickens for Puka Nakua and Kyle Monongai?
73:36He has Swift. Chase Brown and Pickens for Puka and Monongai.
73:40Puka side wins. So, yes, make the trade. Meh.
73:43See? I mean, look, if Lamb is more injured than we know, then you're giving away the best player, potentially.
73:49Hmm. How would you feel, Adam, if you turn in an assignment and the professor just wrote, meh, on it?
73:56It depends on how much effort I put into the assignment.
74:00Right. Well, yeah, I'm just going to use AI from all my assignments.
74:04We're going to talk to you tomorrow with starters in for the AFC home games.
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