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Week 5 Winners & Losers: Biggest Takeaways From Every Game! (10/11 Fantasy Football Podcast)

STACKED extracted the fantasy-relevant player signal from this podcast and kept the full transcript here for context.

1 hr 21 min
Duration
Estimated from transcript
Oct 12, 2026
Published
Mon, October 12, 2026
117
Player insights
69
Players mentioned
Topics
Jayden DanielsJameis WinstonJaylen WarrenRhamondre StevensonWoody MarksBraelon AllenChase BrownDrake MayeParker WashingtonSaquon BarkleyTravis EtienneAaron JonesAmon-Ra St. BrownBreece Hall
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Aaron Jones

NegativeInjury11:31

Jones left the game but returned in Week 5, avoiding a more serious injury concern; his status remains stable heading into the next matchup.

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NegativeInjury63:52

Jones has practiced with a knee brace each of the last three weeks and left the game today before returning; he appears to be playing through an injury that is likely not allowing him to operate at 100 percent. At 31-32 years old with known injury history, the 49ers (5-0) will likely reduce his workload when Jordan Mason returns, especially on early downs.

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Amon-Ra St. Brown

NegativeProjection71:32

St. Brown has scored only 40.3 fantasy points in PPR over his last three games combined, raising concerns about his production; the source suggests buying low if available, noting he's entering his bye week.

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PositiveUsage71:46

St. Brown received 11 targets in Week 5 and 11 targets the prior week, maintaining high target volume despite recent scoring concerns.

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Bo Nix

NegativeProjection50:06

The source calls Bo Nix a big loser across the board. Despite a good touchdown throw to Cortlin Sutton in the second half, Nix is described as struggling this season. The source notes he's had only half a year where he looked good, and even when down seven points in the second half against the Chargers in week five, he couldn't elevate his play. The source expresses concern that Nix has taken two steps back this year, undermining the preseason optimism around his receivers.

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Braelon Allen

PositiveProjection25:30

Braylon Allen was a Week 5 winner with 24 carries, 116 yards, and a touchdown despite poor weather conditions and a fumble and drop; the source projects him as at worst a number-two running back and potentially a borderline number-one if he continues to receive this volume, contingent on Breece Hall remaining sidelined.

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PositiveRole26:16

With Brees Hall out, Braylon Allen is functioning as at worst a number two running back and potentially a borderline number one if he maintains current workload; the source notes he's a better version of what Olly Gordon offers based on his running ability and offensive fit, though more passing game involvement would be ideal.

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NegativeDepth Chart62:39

Allen may be emerging as a threat to Breece Hall's backfield role; source raised this as a question for discussion.

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Breece Hall

NegativeDepth Chart25:30

Braylon Allen's projection as a number-two running back or borderline number-one is contingent on Breece Hall remaining sidelined; if Hall returns, Allen's role and fantasy value would diminish.

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NegativeDepth Chart62:39

Hall's role may be threatened by Braylon Allen; source raised this as a question for discussion, indicating potential backfield competition.

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Brenton Strange

PositiveSleeper45:05

Source recommends considering Brenton Strange off the waiver wire as a potential pickup following his performance in this game.

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Bucky Irving

PositiveProjection3:13

Bucky Irving scored 31 points in Week 5, placing him among the week's top scorers.

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NegativeProjection5:24

Bucky Irving scored 31 points in Week 5, placing him among the top scorers of the week.

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C.J. Stroud

PositiveProjection12:21

Stroud has scored more than 20 fantasy points in all three games with Nico Collins on the field, demonstrating strong fantasy production when his top receiver is healthy; the source advises not overlooking him.

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Carnell Tate

NegativeProjection61:46

Tate showed promise early but may have been overrated too quickly after one strong game against an overmatched Titans defense; source projects him as a wide receiver three rest of season, cautioning that the Titans matchup was not representative of typical weekly competition.

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Chase Brown

PositiveValue6:24

Despite a slow start with three or fewer catches in three of five games, the source identifies a buy-low opportunity; Chase Brown didn't score more than 13.1 PPR fantasy points in his first seven games last season before going "berserk," suggesting similar trajectory potential; he would be redrafted as a third-round pick at this point rather than earlier, and should be matchup-proof if receiving adequate target volume.

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NegativeUsage7:00

Chase Brown has been limited in receiving opportunities through five games, recording three or fewer catches in three of five contests and only one game with 11 catches; despite facing defenses allowing 3.4 to 4.1 yards per carry, he underperformed against the Dolphins (4.1 yards per carry allowed) and the overall schedule hasn't been as favorable as it appears on paper.

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PositiveBust7:31

Chase Brown was the biggest loser of Week 5 despite facing Miami's atrocious run defense. He had 13 carries for 39 yards with a longest run of 7 yards, did not have the most carries on his team (Samadja Piran had one more), and fumbled early when he had only 6 carries. He has 12-plus PPR points in just one of his last four games with no touchdowns in those games. His snap rate was 60%, which is low. The source says expectations must be lowered for Chase Brown, though there may be a buy-low opportunity given his talent and the Bengals' offensive potential when healthy.

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Chris Olave

NegativeProjection64:27

Olave's poor stat line in the Saints loss is attributed to the combination of limited offensive touches (Saints had the ball for only 20:23) and Derek Carr being under pressure throughout the game; the source views this as a reflection of quarterback and offensive line struggles rather than Olave's individual performance.

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Christian Watson

PositiveProjection3:00

Christian Watson was identified as one of the top five scorers in Week 5, indicating strong fantasy performance.

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Dallas Goedert

PositiveRole44:02

Goedert returned to action and had a great day; source notes his return as a positive development for the Eagles offense alongside the expectation that the team will get healthier over the next month.

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Damien Harris

NegativeRole67:33

Harris, who was with the Patriots and experienced their 17-different-running-backs-per-game approach, confirms that splitting carries among multiple backs is the worst situation for a running back; you cannot get into a rhythm or develop feel for opponent tendencies.

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Daniel Jones

PositiveUsage48:00

Jones is one of two primary targets in Jameis Winston's high-volume passing game for the Giants, receiving 20 targets alongside Malik Nabors in the Commanders tie. The source recommends holding Jones despite the Giants' inconsistent record, as Winston's volume-dependent approach ensures consistent target volume; even a 10-15 point reduction from recent highs still yields strong production.

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Darius Cooper

PositiveBreakout44:04

Source questions whether the Eagles found something in Darius Cooper as a potential consistent threat on the other side of the offense, possibly from a touchdown perspective, suggesting he could be an emerging option for the team.

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Darnell Mooney

NegativeRole49:00

Mooney had a notable sideline exchange with Jameis Winston during the Giants-Commanders tie, suggesting potential friction or role uncertainty in the Giants' receiving corps despite Winston's high-volume passing approach.

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David Montgomery

NegativeInjury11:22

Montgomery left with a groin injury in Week 5; his status for the upcoming game against the Jaguars is uncertain, with Woody Marks seeing increased workload in his absence.

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Davis Webb

PositiveProjection50:01

The source identifies Davis Webb as a winner in week five, contrasting his performance with the struggles of Tyler Shuck and other quarterbacks.

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Deebo Samuel

NegativeInjury12:34

Samuel left with a hamstring injury in the third quarter of Week 5 and was immediately ruled out, creating uncertainty for his availability in upcoming games.

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Denzel Boston

PositiveBreakout65:22

Boston scored a touchdown in a difficult Jets-Browns game where the passing game was largely shut down by weather and defensive pressure; he was only started in 42% of leagues, making the touchdown a rare bright spot for wide receivers in this matchup.

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Derek Carr

NegativeProjection5:44

Carr was intercepted twice in a Saints loss, with the second interception a desperation throw at game end; the source characterizes the Saints offense as flushed for fantasy purposes due to poor execution and limited offensive opportunities.

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Deshaun Watson

NegativeProjection3:07

Watson had terrible numbers in the Jets-Browns game and was particularly awful at the end of the game; while he was sacked eight times which contributed to his struggles, his individual performance was poor, including missing Isaiah Bond wide open in the end zone.

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DeVonta Smith

NegativeRole42:11

Smith was absent from the Eagles' game against Jacksonville, contributing to the team's pass-heavy approach being limited to Jalen Hurts and other receivers; his status for upcoming games remains unclear from this context.

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Drake Maye

PositiveProjection3:00

Drake May was identified as one of the top five scorers in Week 5, indicating strong fantasy performance in the week's games.

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PositiveProjection5:55

Drake May was QB1 in Week 5 with a second career 300-yard game, running and throwing effectively without needing Romeo Dobbs. The source notes he's been QB1 back-to-back weeks and looks great; he hasn't faced significant pass rush pressure, and his upcoming schedule doesn't feature many defenses that will pressure him heavily. He's one week closer to A.J. Brown's return.

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PositiveProjection21:49

Drake May scored 47.5 fantasy points in Week 5 after being ranked ninth the previous week and placed on the Worryometer two weeks prior; the source acknowledges the low ranking was due to concerns about turnovers and appearing lost, but credits May with a strong bounce-back performance.

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Gabe Nabers

NegativeProjection67:17

Nabers had a fortuitous touchdown run but otherwise struggled, averaging only 15 yards on seven attempts; the Chargers' run game and offensive line are poor, making him a risky fantasy option who will have games where he averages two yards per carry.

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NegativeRole67:33

Nabers is part of a three-way running back split for the Chargers, which severely limits his fantasy value; analysts note that splitting carries among three backs is the worst situation for a running back, as it prevents rhythm and understanding of opponent tendencies.

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Garrett Wilson

PositiveProjection66:20

Wilson is described as amazing despite the difficult Jets-Browns game conditions; the source notes he holds the ball for extended periods, suggesting strong hands and reliability even in adverse circumstances.

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Geno Smith

NegativeProjection65:49

Smith's performance was highly dependent on offensive line protection; when receivers were open on time and he wasn't pressured, he looked like a competent NFL quarterback, but as soon as the Browns applied pressure, his performance crumbled, suggesting his fantasy value is tied to pass protection quality.

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Isaiah Bond

NegativeUsage65:49

Bond had a couple of nice catches but was plagued by terrible drops in the Jets-Browns game; he was also wide open in the end zone on a play where Gino Smith missed him, highlighting execution issues rather than opportunity concerns.

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Isaiah Likely

PositiveProjection3:13

Isaiah Likely scored 32 points in Week 5, tied with Joe Burrow for one of the highest-scoring performances of the week.

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NegativeProjection5:13

Isaiah Likely tied with Joe Burrow at 32 points in decimal scoring in Week 5, making him one of the top scorers of the week.

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J.J. McCarthy

NegativeRole49:00

McCarthy entered the Giants-Commanders tie in limited snaps, including a couple of carries, but the source expects the Giants to remain dependent on Jameis Winston's passing volume going forward, limiting McCarthy's offensive role.

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Jacory Croskey-Merritt

NegativeMatchup51:02

Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt faces a brutal upcoming schedule for Washington; the source would trade him away given the Commanders' difficult slate featuring San Francisco, Philadelphia, Los Angeles Rams, and Houston, and would take something for him rather than hold.

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Jalen Hurts

NegativeUsage41:35

Against Jacksonville, Hurts threw 40 passes on only 25 minutes of possession, reflecting a pass-heavy game plan forced by injuries to running backs and receivers; the source characterizes this as a one-off adjustment rather than a sustainable shift in offensive philosophy.

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Jameis Winston

PositiveProjection3:13

Jameis Winston scored 31 points in Week 5, placing him among the week's top scorers.

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NegativeUsage3:24

Jameis Winston was terrible in the first half against Washington (7 of 16, 72 yards, no touchdowns) but then turned into an elite deep ball thrower in the second half, which is characteristic of his play style.

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NegativeProjection5:24

Jameis Winston scored 31 points in Week 5, placing him among the top scorers of the week.

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PositiveProjection48:00

Winston delivered a 326-yard, three-touchdown performance (nearly 32 fantasy points) in the Giants-Commanders tie, described as 'inevitable' by the source. With 20 targets going to two receivers (Malik Nabors and Daniel Jones), Winston's volume-dependent passing game should sustain high-volume weeks regardless of game script.

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Jameson Williams

NegativeProjection71:54

Williams had a poor Week 5 with only two catches for 47 yards, exemplifying the inconsistency of his season; the source notes this is characteristic of the Jameson Williams experience.

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PositiveBreakout72:01

Despite the Week 5 dud, the source is high on Williams after two good games in a row, suggesting a potential turnaround in his consistency.

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Jared Goff

PositiveProjection3:00

Jared Goff was identified as one of the top five scorers in Week 5, indicating strong fantasy performance.

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PositiveProjection70:55

The source argues against selling high on Goff, noting he's scored 20+ fantasy points in every game and plays with one of the worst defenses in the NFL, supporting continued production.

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Jayden Daniels

PositiveProjection3:13

Jaden Daniels scored 31 points in Week 5, placing him among the week's top scorers.

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NegativeProjection5:26

Jaden Daniels scored 31 points in Week 5, placing him among the top scorers of the week.

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PositiveRole9:00

Jaylen Daniels demonstrated rushing upside in Week 5 despite concerns about his physical capabilities and missing Stefan Diggs and Terry McLaurin at full health; the rushing production is what fantasy managers hoped to see from him and represents his primary fantasy appeal, though the source notes this level of rushing won't occur weekly.

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PositiveRole9:32

Daniels demonstrated his rushing upside with dominant leg usage in Week 5, showcasing the kind of dual-threat capability that makes him valuable in fantasy; while the source notes he won't replicate this weekly, his willingness to run and use his legs is a key reason for his fantasy appeal.

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NegativeInjury25:30

Jaden Daniels returned from an elbow injury in Week 5 and demonstrated running ability in poor weather; the source recommends carrying a backup quarterback due to ongoing injury risk despite his strong performance.

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NegativeProjection25:30

Jaden Daniels scored 32.3 fantasy points in Week 5 against the Giants in his first game back from an elbow injury; the source supports starting him rest of season while noting he demonstrated running ability in poor weather conditions and performed without Stephon Diggs and with Terry McLaurin at less than 100%, though a backup quarterback should be carried due to injury risk.

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NegativeMatchup28:48

The source references Jaden Daniels' performance in the Giants-Commanders game, noting he wasn't paying close attention to the end of the game and making a light reference to Daniels also not being fully engaged at the finish, implying a lack of awareness or execution in a critical moment.

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PositiveRole51:46

Jaden Daniels should not have a fear of re-injury with his elbow, which means if he's going to run, that's a great sign for his fantasy production; his rushing upside is a key factor to monitor going forward.

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NegativeInjury51:54

The source's biggest fear with Jaden Daniels is that if Washington falls out of playoff contention, the team could shut him down due to his elbow injury concerns, which would impact his fantasy value down the stretch.

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NegativeProjection52:35

Jaden Daniels is not expected to be a dominant passer in his current state of health and with his current team; the source projects him in the six to ten range at quarterback depending on scoring format, unless he continues to produce with his legs.

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Jaylen Warren

PositiveProjection3:00

Jalen Warren was identified as one of the top five scorers in Week 5, indicating strong fantasy performance.

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PositiveValue3:07

When asked whether to prefer Garrett Wilson or Jalen Warren, the source chose Warren, citing concerns that other pass catchers will eventually return for the Jets (including Brees Hall), which could reduce Wilson's target share, making Warren the safer long-term value play.

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NegativeDepth Chart62:44

Warren may be emerging as a factor in the backfield alongside Rico Dowdle; source raised this as a question for discussion.

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PositiveRole66:43

The source prefers Warren over Allen in a choice between the two, citing that pass catchers will eventually return for the Jets and Breece Hall will be back, which may reduce his workload, but still favors him as the better option.

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Jeremiyah Love

NegativeBust72:38

Love appears to have hit the rookie wall in Week 3 and preseason Week 1, showing declining engagement; the source speculates he may have an unresolved ankle injury that's affecting his performance and mindset.

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Joe Burrow

PositiveProjection3:13

Joe Burrow scored 32 points in Week 5, tied with Isaiah Likely for one of the highest-scoring performances of the week.

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NegativeProjection5:13

Joe Burrow was tied with Isaiah Likely at 32 points in decimal scoring in Week 5, making him one of the top scorers of the week.

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Jordan Mason

PositiveDepth Chart62:50

Mason is expected to return and will likely see heavy usage as a one-B back on early downs, especially given Aaron Jones' age (31-32) and injury history; the 49ers are 5-0 and thinking about January, suggesting they will manage Jones' workload and increase Mason's role.

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Josh Jacobs

NegativeProjection47:30

The source expects the Packers' running game to remain weak even when Jacobs returns, citing persistent offensive line issues and the team's preference for downfield passing; Jacobs won't restore the backfield to prior production levels.

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Justin Herbert

NegativeProjection67:15

Herbert had a poor performance in the Chargers' 23-17 loss to Denver, with pathetic interceptions and bad fumbles; the source notes the Chargers' defense played poorly, but Herbert's turnovers were a significant factor in the loss.

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Kalif Raymond

PositiveUsage60:49

Raymond had a great day in Week 5 and was dropped from a shared league team in favor of Carnell Tate, a move the source regrets; demonstrates Raymond's current production value.

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Keaton Mitchell

NegativeRole67:33

Mitchell is interesting to have on your bench, but the Chargers have moved to a three-way running back split; the source would like to think Mitchell could be used more as an explosive option out of the backfield catching passes, but the current committee approach limits his upside.

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NegativeUsage69:47

The source expected Mitchell to be used more as an explosive option out of the backfield catching passes, as the Ravens did last week, but they didn't deploy him that way in Week 5 despite the struggling run game.

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Kenyan Drake

NegativeUsage66:43

Drake had a very low route participation rate in the Jets-Browns game, suggesting limited involvement in the passing game despite the Jets' offensive struggles.

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NegativeUsage66:59

Drake had a very low route participation rate of 23%, which is concerning for his fantasy value; Mason Taylor was at 63% route participation, suggesting Taylor may have taken Drake off the field. Drake is likely to get dropped in many leagues and faces the Dolphins in Week 7.

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Kyler Murray

NegativeProjection62:26

Murray posted his best game with 20 fantasy points in Week 5 but remains a streaming/backup option rather than a hold through his bye week; his fantasy value is heavily dependent on running volume—when he runs, production is strong; when he doesn't, results resemble his prior two games. The Vikings offense will be fully healthy with Jefferson, Addison, and Hawkinson returning, creating uncertainty about the total picture. Upcoming schedule (Colts, Lions, Bills, Packers post-bye) offers some appeal.

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Malik Nabers

PositiveUsage48:00

Nabors recorded 20 targets in the Giants-Commanders tie, the second consecutive strong game. The source recommends holding despite the Giants' inconsistent win-loss record, as Jameis Winston's volume-dependent passing game will funnel targets to Nabors and Daniel Jones regardless of game script; even a 10-15 point reduction from his recent ceiling still yields elite production.

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Mark Andrews

PositiveRole49:38

Mark Andrews will be hyper-targeted by Jameis Winston; the source advises not selling him unless receiving something amazing in return, as he's producing at a superstar level with a quarterback willing to challenge tight coverage and create opportunities.

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PositiveProjection49:51

The source believes Mark Andrews is in the conversation to be a top three tight end this season; even if you subtract 10-15 points from his Week 5 performance against Washington, he's still producing at an elite level with Jameis Winston as quarterback who has no fear challenging in tight spots and giving him opportunities to win.

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MarShawn Lloyd

PositiveUsage46:30

Marshawn Lloyd had two touchdowns in the Green Bay 31, Chicago 7 game, demonstrating his scoring upside.

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PositiveBreakout46:30

Lloyd scored two touchdowns in his first game without Josh Jacobs, operating in what appears to be a three-headed backfield with Pierre Strong filling Chris Brooks' snaps. At 58% rostered, he's a waiver wire priority and potential starter candidate next week against Dallas, though the Packers' inconsistent offensive line and run-game struggles suggest volatility even with Jacobs sidelined.

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Marvin Harrison Jr.

PositiveRole11:49

The Texans acquired Harrison Jr., reuniting him with CJ Stroud; the source expresses cautious optimism that this coaching staff may unlock something in him that Arizona's system did not, offering hope for dynasty roster holders.

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Mason Taylor

PositiveRole66:50

Mason Taylor posted a 63% route participation rate, significantly higher than Kenyan Drake's 23%, suggesting he may have taken Drake off the field and is emerging as a key pass-catching option for the Saints.

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Michael Wilson

PositiveValue50:39

The source prefers Michael Wilson over Jalen Waddell rest of season, citing that Wilson is on the right team. Despite Wilson's schedule getting hard and not performing particularly well against the Lions, the source maintains conviction in the preference, suggesting Wilson's team situation (Arizona) is more favorable than Waddell's quarterback situation with Bo Nix.

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Nico Collins

NegativeRole12:08

The source does not expect the Marvin Harrison Jr. acquisition to negatively impact Nico Collins; in fact, it may make him better given the Texans' pass-heavy approach and the presence of multiple receiving options.

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NegativeInjury60:31

Collins finished the game but was favoring his hip during play, per in-room reporting; injury status warrants monitoring heading forward.

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Ollie Gordon II

NegativeProjection26:00

When asked whether to prefer Ramondre Stevenson or Ollie Gordon rest of season, the source chose Stevenson, noting 'We're just going to continue to take a beating at the hands of Ollie Gordon,' suggesting Gordon has underperformed expectations.

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Parker Washington

PositiveProjection3:13

Parker Washington scored 30 points in Week 5, placing him among the week's top scorers.

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NegativeProjection5:26

Parker Washington scored 30 points in Week 5, placing him among the top scorers of the week.

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PositiveBreakout44:49

Source calls Parker Washington a stud after concerns about him over the last couple of weeks; he responded with a 51-yard touchdown in the first quarter and a 27-yard touchdown, described as an awesome throw and catch, getting Jacksonville back into the game.

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Pierre Strong Jr.

NegativeRole47:00

Strong filled Chris Brooks' snaps in the Packers backfield, suggesting a three-headed committee with Marshawn Lloyd and Josh Jacobs (when healthy), limiting individual upside in a run game the source expects to remain weak even with roster improvements.

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Quinshon Judkins

NegativeInjury11:17

Judkins was apparently in a walking boot following Week 5, raising concerns about his availability and workload for the upcoming game against Baltimore.

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Raheim Sanders

NegativeInjury11:17

Sanders left with a hip injury in Week 5, adding to the Ravens' backfield injury concerns heading into their matchup against Baltimore.

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Rhamondre Stevenson

PositiveRole11:31

Stevenson is identified as a Week 5 winner; the source suggests he could be considered a winner even if Henderson had remained healthy, indicating his role and usage are expanding in the offense.

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PositiveRole22:56

Ramondre Stevenson is a winner after his backfield teammate was injured; started in 48% of leagues with 4.9 yards per carry, three catches, and a touchdown; the source states he would be a winner even if his backfield mate returned; he is the passing downs back with a favorable next-seven-game schedule (Jets, Bears, Dolphins, Packers, Lions, Chargers, Bills) that includes a buy.

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PositiveProjection23:09

Ramondre Stevenson is projected as a regular starter and potential top-12 running back (possibly top-10) rest of season; he averaged 4.9 yards per carry with three catches and a touchdown in Week 5, and the source notes his favorable next-seven-game schedule (Jets, Bears, Dolphins, Packers, Lions, Chargers, Bills) combined with his dual roles as passing-downs and goal-line back, contingent on ball security.

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PositiveValue23:09

Ramondre Stevenson started in only 48% of leagues heading into Week 5, but the source expects that ownership percentage to rise given his production and role.

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Rico Dowdle

NegativeDepth Chart62:44

Dowdle's role may be affected by Jalen Warren; source raised this as a question for discussion, indicating potential backfield competition.

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Sam LaPorta

NegativeRole72:07

The source notes that Sam LaPorta should have been included on a graphic comparing tight end performance, suggesting he had a notable Week 5 performance worthy of recognition.

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Saquon Barkley

NegativeInjury11:06

Barkley's status for the upcoming game against Carolina is uncertain following Week 5; his potential return or continued absence will affect backfield workload distribution alongside Shipley and Damian Pierce.

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PositiveRole43:23

When healthy, Barkley will be the Eagles' best player and the team's focal point; the source expects a return to a more run-heavy approach once Barkley returns from injury, reversing the pass-heavy game plan forced by his absence against Jacksonville.

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PositiveMatchup44:44

Source expresses desire to see Barkley on the field and notes the Eagles' schedule will be very favorable for him going forward, suggesting strong upcoming matchup opportunities.

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Stefon Diggs

NegativeProjection52:27

Stefon Diggs will be a number three receiver on a week-to-week basis for Washington; the source projects him as a consistent mid-tier receiver option given Jaden Daniels' current passing limitations and the team's overall offensive constraints.

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Terry McLaurin

NegativeDepth Chart25:30

Jaden Daniels scored 32.3 fantasy points in Week 5 with Terry McLaurin playing at less than 100% health, indicating Daniels' performance was achieved despite his top receiver being limited.

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NegativeProjection52:27

Terry McLaurin will be a number three receiver on a week-to-week basis for Washington; the source projects him as a consistent mid-tier receiver option given Jaden Daniels' current passing limitations and the team's overall offensive constraints.

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Travis Etienne

NegativeUsage45:10

Etienne got a ton of work in this game but was not efficient with it; source notes multiple times in notes 'burst with Etienne' when watching him, indicating he has the physical tools but hasn't lived up to ceiling expectations.

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PositiveProjection45:27

Source still believes Etienne will be a number two fantasy running back despite recent inefficiency; he received three targets and two catches in this game, which helped him reach double-digit PPR points.

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NegativeValue45:40

Etienne is at 12.7 PPR fantasy points per game, trailing Chase Brown who is at 13 PPR points per game; source notes Etienne has Houston this upcoming week (tough run defense), then a bye, and if he struggles after Houston, he has favorable matchups against Dallas and Washington in weeks 16 and 17 that could be a good time to acquire him.

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Tre Harris

PositiveMatchup66:48

The source was convinced to start both Trey Harris and the Broncos defense in one league against the Chargers, and this decision worked out well; Harris had a strong performance in Denver's 23-17 win over Los Angeles.

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Will Shipley

NegativeInjury11:06

Shipley left in the second quarter with an injury in Week 5; his status for the upcoming game against Carolina is uncertain, with potential backfield alternatives including Saquon Barkley, Damian Pierce, and others.

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Woody Marks

PositiveUsage11:22

Marks had a lot of work in Week 5 with Montgomery sidelined by a groin injury; however, the Jaguars present a challenging matchup next week as the toughest run defense in football, which could limit his fantasy upside.

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PositiveRole22:56

Woody Marks is a winner after his backfield teammate was injured; the source groups him with Ramondre Stevenson as a beneficiary of backfield opportunity and states he would be a winner even if the injured backfield mate returned.

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PositiveRole23:48

Woody Marks demonstrated capability in passing downs and is expected to continue receiving check-down throws; the source notes he has shown more juice than Montgomery throughout the season, suggesting sustained involvement if Montgomery remains sidelined.

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NegativeProjection23:48

Woody Marks, who started in only 14% of leagues, showed efficiency in Week 5 with 4.1 yards per carry and four catches while serving as the lead running back with Montgomery sidelined; the source projects his floor as a bye-week running back and ceiling as a low-end number-two fantasy running back in half and full PPR, though his schedule (Jacksonville, Giants, bye, Chargers) is tougher than Ramondre Stevenson's.

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2:37Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:40Sunday night recap of week five. A lot of scoring.
2:43Game of the week was a hit. Everyone loves that.
2:46And here we are breaking down to the games.
2:49What was the game of the week? Oh, the Seahawks 49ers, of course.
2:53Very good. Dave sort of ruined taking... Oh, sure.
2:56Blame me. No, no. I'm happy. I was gonna do Bills-Rams, but it worked out.
3:00All right. Top five scorers. Go. Any position. Drake May.
3:04Drake May's gotta be up there. Jared Goff's gotta be up there.
3:07Christian Watson's gotta be up there. Jalen Warren. Jameer Gibbs.
3:10Yep. Those guys should be up there. You nailed him.
3:13There are two others. Joe Burrow and Isaiah Likely are basically tied with one.
3:18Oh, yeah. Isaiah Likely. I don't know who had it in non-decimal, but in decimal they're tied at 32 points.
3:24Very good. Jameis Winston with 31. Bucky Irving, 31.
3:26Jaden Daniels, 31. Parker Washington, 30. How many? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
3:3211 30-point scores this week at all positions with Sunday night and Monday night still to play.
3:37How does that compare to last week? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
3:417 last week. And we had two teams on bye.
3:44This was a much better fantasy week. Much more fun.
3:48I hope this whole show is you counting things.
3:50Okay. Let's count to one winner. Heath, who's the biggest winner from fantasy week five?
3:55Mike is no longer dismayed. I would like to officially nominate QB1 Drake May for the LOL Remember When We Were Worried About Him Award.
4:03Drake May was spectacular. He's running. He's throwing. Doesn't even need Romeo Dobbs.
4:07Awesome, awesome fantasy day for him. And maybe more importantly, he's one week closer to getting A.J.
4:12Brown back. Second career 300-yard game for him. He's been QB1.
4:15And this is obviously pending Monday night and Sunday night, but really Monday night.
4:19QB1 back-to-back weeks. Yeah, pretty cool. He looks great.
4:22It has helped that he just isn't really facing a lot of pass rush pressure.
4:27That was the one thing that I was a little bit worried about from him against the Raiders.
4:32But he crushed them. He crushed them. And when you look at his schedule, I don't know how many defenses are in
4:39front of him now that are going to put a lot of pressure on him.
4:44He's playing great. It's buyback all the way in time.
4:47Okay. Well, Dave, if that was the biggest winner, who is the biggest loser?
4:51We got to talk about Chase Brown. Yeah. He has 12-plus PPR points in one of his last four games.
4:57Does that sound right? It sounds right to me.
5:00No touchdowns in those games. His unofficial snap rate today was 60%.
5:03That's low. His schedule coming up isn't so great.
5:06I am hoping, but this is just strictly hope, that the Bengals go into their bye and say, we need to get him going.
5:13We need to get our run game going. But those might be two separate conversations.
5:18They might say that they want to get their run game going and not necessarily put it all on Chase Brown.
5:25We got away with one last week because of all the targets and the catches, and he still had a few targets and catches today against Miami.
5:33But this is Miami. This was supposed to be the game that he would go off and have huge numbers in, and we would say, all right.
5:41All is well in the world. Chase Brown's a man.
5:4413 carries, 39 yards. His longest run was seven yards.
5:47He really just did not have a ton of room, and he didn't even have the most carries on his team.
5:54Samadja Piran had one more. I think you have to lower expectations now for Chase Brown.
5:58Jamie, how do you feel about that? Chase Brown also had a fumble.
6:02At the time of the fumble, he had six carries.
6:05Piran had four. Yeah, I didn't even mention that.
6:08Yeah. And after that, Piran got some work. But I don't know.
6:12This is a terrible day for a guy who was 100% started, Chase Brown.
6:16Should have been a layup. Should have been a layup.
6:19I mean, Dolphins' run defense has been absolutely atrocious for the majority of the season so far.
6:24So, you know, I mean, look, you don't have to worry about starting him next week.
6:29So, you get a reprieve if he's been, you know, killing your fantasy team.
6:34I still think there's a buy-low opportunity here because he's so talented and plays in this offense.
6:39And when they're healthy, they're going to score points.
6:42And so, this is just one of those games where Joe Burrow, you know, it was some, you know, stupid touchdowns in terms of Mike Isecki, Samajay P.
6:50Ryan and Tanner Hudson with the first three scorers for them.
6:54So, there's reason to be concerned. There's also reason to, you know, want to still have this guy on your team.
7:00What are the reasons to still have this guy on your team?
7:04Again, very talented offense, very talented player. You saw the catch potential last week.
7:08And I know it was because of the injuries of the wide receiver.
7:12But there's always going to be those type of games when they're chasing points and they're throwing the ball a lot that
7:19he's going to be involved catching the ball more so than he was today.
7:23I don't know. I mean, if somebody's selling Chase Brown, I'm still buying.
7:27Now, listen, Joe Burrow wasn't playing for much of the beginning of last year.
7:31But he didn't score more than 13.1 fantasy points in any of his first seven games last season.
7:37And then it took off. Chase Brown, in case anyone missed that, I know we had a weird audio thing, didn't score
7:43more than 13.1 PPR fantasy points in any of his first seven games.
7:47And then he just went berserk. So, hopefully he can pick it up.
7:51Now, you say the Dolphins' defense is really bad.
7:54They give up a lot of fantasy points. But coming into the game, they were only allowing 4.1 yards per carry to running backs.
8:01And so far, he has faced teams that are allowing 3.4, 3.5, 4.1, 2.5, and 4.0 yards per carry to running backs.
8:08So, the schedule hasn't been as good as it might look on paper.
8:12But still, he should have been able to do more against the Dolphins.
8:16Would you like to know who he's playing after the bye?
8:19I see, yes. He has Baltimore, Tennessee, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Washington.
8:23There's some good matchups, some bad matchups. He should be basically matchup-proof if they throw to him enough.
8:28But they're not. I mean, three or fewer catches in three of five games.
8:32And then the one game with 11. You said something this morning in regards to Saquon Barkley.
8:38If we were redrafting him, we draft Barkley at this point, knowing what we know.
8:42It's the same thing with Chase Brown. He would be more of a third-round pick at this point than anything else.
8:49And I think the three guys that are in that range that, you know, if you're looking at it with Amari and
8:55Hampton, like, you're not drafting any of those three guys.
8:58Chase Brown, Saquon Barkley, or Hampton in the first two rounds.
9:02Yeah. All right. Well, that was the biggest winner from Heath, the biggest loser from Dave.
9:07Jamie, who is the biggest tie today? I mean, if you want me to tell you the player that I have is
9:13a winner from a fantasy perspective, it's the guy who tied with the stupidest play at the end of the game.
9:20And that's Jayne Daniels. Look, we were worried what he was going to do physically.
9:24And not having Stefan Diggs and not having 100% of Terry McLaurin, the rushing was there, which is what we're hoping to see from him.
9:32The majority of the time when he's on the field that he's, we know he's capable of that.
9:37He's not going to do that on a weekly basis, but that's the reason why we love him as a fantasy quarterback.
9:44So stupid decision at the end of the game from a reality perspective.
9:48But great to see Jayne Daniels not afraid to use his legs and run and be a dominant rusher at that position.
9:55Okay. NFL memes with the tweet of the year.
9:58Jayne Daniels thought the clock would stop at five seconds out of respect for him.
10:02That is so funny. And that was just a wild sequence.
10:06And then the Eagles-Jaguars game was insane. How did they win that game?
10:10How did they lose that game? Because Sirianni's a moron.
10:13Yeah, he took responsibility. He said he should have kicked the ball out of bounds.
10:17Did the Jaguars have any timeouts left? Poop. Huh?
10:20Did they have any timeouts left? They had no timeouts left.
10:23None. None. Yeah, so you kick the ball out of bounds.
10:27It goes to the 40. It's not that unrealistic for them to get into Cam Little's field goal range.
10:33They're 10 yards away from being able to. I don't know that it was the wrong decision.
10:38No, you kick it in the end zone. You don't let him get a chance to return.
10:43He said he should have kicked it out of bounds.
10:46I don't know if they could have kicked it in the end zone.
10:50I don't know if they often kick it in the end zone.
10:54Or like through the end zone. But he said he should have kicked it out of bounds.
10:59But that I don't think would have been a great solution either.
11:02Unbelievable. All right. News and notes. Caleb Williams could be back next week.
11:06Will Shipley left in the second quarter with an injury.
11:10They get Carolina next week. We don't know if it'll be Saquon Barkley back, if Shipley will be back, if it'll be Damian Pierce.
11:17Quinshawn Judkins was apparently in a walking boot. And Raheem Sanders left with a hip injury as well.
11:22They get Baltimore next week. David Montgomery left with a groin injury.
11:26Woody Marks had a lot of work today. They get the Jaguars next week, the toughest run defense in football.
11:32Aaron Jones left, but then he returned. Travion Henderson left.
11:35And Dave is going to talk about Ramondre Stevenson as a winner a little bit later.
11:40I think you can make the case even if Henderson hadn't left Stevenson a winner.
11:45Yep. Oh, the Texans acquired Marvin Harrison Jr. Heath, what do we think about this?
11:49Or they are going to acquire him? You know, I think if you have him on your dynasty roster, it gives you some reason for hope.
11:57Perhaps this coaching staff will unlock something in him, use him in some way that it wasn't going to get any better in Arizona.
12:05So hopefully it does here. He's reunited with CJ Stroud.
12:08That's about the most positive thing that we could say right now.
12:11And he's on a team that normally you would think he's going to the Texans.
12:16Well, they just play defense and run. They can't run at all.
12:20So you're going to get 35 passes. They can play defense.
12:23Yeah. Do you think it'll have any effect on Nico Collins?
12:26No. I hope not. It'd be weird if it did.
12:29It may make him a lot better. There's so many guys in that two through six spot that they have on the roster.
12:36It's just frustrating. Yeah. All right. I think it's a little weird that they did it.
12:41We'll talk about it later. It's not applicable to fantasy.
12:44Meanwhile, CJ Stroud, three games with Nico Collins, more than 20 fantasy points in all three.
12:49So don't overlook him. And Debo Samuel left with a hamstring injury in the third quarter.
12:54He was immediately ruled out, as was Casey Concepcion, who took a big hit to the head in the first quarter.
13:01TJ Hawkinson, unfortunately, he left in the first quarter.
13:03And they get a bye this week. So hopefully he can come back.
13:07I think it's a concussion for Hawkinson. It is.
13:10Yes. So he should be back. Well, you don't never say that, but hopefully back in two weeks against the Colts.
13:16Dalton, did Dalton Schultz come back? Or did he just get hurt?
13:20He got hurt. All right. We'll try to look at that.
13:23I'm looking at it right now. He played 32 snaps.
13:27So about half the snaps. So I would imagine that something happened.
13:30Isaiah played into the. No, he was on the field for the last play of the game.
13:35It was a kneel down. He was there. Okay.
13:38Isaiah likely left in the fourth quarter in overtime.
13:41Over time. He ripped off. So that he had a huge game, hopefully back next week for the Saints and against the
13:48Saints and Kenyon Sadiq left with a head injury.
13:50They're at New England next week. There are a lot of offensive line things to know about.
13:56Left tackle Anton Harrison for the Jaguars. Left tackle Will Campbell for the Patriots.
14:00Right tackle Titus Howard for the Browns. Right tackle Jermaine Erluminor for the Giants.
14:04They all left with injuries. On defense, the Chicago Bears had a lot of injuries.
14:09We don't know if it was maybe because they left because of the score.
14:13But four defensive players for the Bears got hurt.
14:16And they get the Falcons on the road next week.
14:19They lost to the Packers. They're at the Falcons next week.
14:22The Bengals got a little banged up. They're going to their bye.
14:26The Eagles got a little banged up. They get the Panthers.
14:29And there was one other team that got seriously.
14:32The Patriots maybe? I don't know. But the Bears are the big one.
14:36Yeah, they lost some players. Early look at the waiver wire, Jamie.
14:40The Bourne identity waiver wire. Who are we looking at on the waiver wire?
14:44Yeah, Kendrick Bourne is probably going to be the lead receiver to go get.
14:48Kamani Vidal at running back was one that stood out.
14:51Obviously, Damian Pierce. If there is no Barkley or Shipley.
14:54Three quarterbacks, I think, made the list so far.
14:57Aaron Rodgers has just been great. Jacoby, not Jacoby, sorry, excuse me.
15:01Jameis Winston coming off another strong game as well.
15:03And I would still look at Kirk Cousins. Easier matchup next week at home against Buffalo by comparison to going on the road to play New England.
15:12So there will be some injury guys that we look at, you know, again, from the Eagles backfield.
15:17And then I'm trying to think of any tight ends that stood out that you should go get.
15:23Hunter Henry had a nice game. Henry was one.
15:26Every week is going to be like, oh, Hunter Henry.
15:29Oh, Hunter Henry. Yeah, that same group of guys like Dalton Schultz and Hunter Henry.
15:33And this week was Hawkinson. You know, Gusecki, you want to go back to him just because of the touchdown.
15:39Oh, Brent Strange. He's been playing well. Yeah. And Pat Fragmuth.
15:43Oh, Jeremy Bernard was another receiver with Roman Wilson getting hurt.
15:46Oh, right. I didn't mention that. Nine targets. Yep.
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15:54Ooh. Who? I don't think I know how to pronounce his name.
15:58Oh, the Cardinals. Tegan Kiti Oro. No. Oro. Quidorano.
16:01Quidorano. Oh, you nailed it. Quidorano. Quentin Tarantino of the Cardinals.
16:04Tegan. Um, 20. If, uh, CeeDee Lamb is banged up, uh, Jake Ferguson and Ryan Flannoy, uh, we'll see what his injury
16:11is, but obviously those two guys will benefit as well.
16:14You're joking about Quidorano, right? Of course. Yeah. But Roman Wilson did leave and I forgot to mention that.
16:20All right. We're going to get into some winners.
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16:44Heath, give me your two winners. Uh, I already gave you one of them, so I'm just going to give you one more and that's Ollie Gordon.
16:53Another fantastic performance. Apparently he's just going to be better for fantasy than Devon HN, which makes perfect sense.
16:58Um, didn't do anything in the passing game. This was a terrible performance from the Dolphins offense for most of the game.
17:05But I think if nothing else, if you spent all that fab on Ollie Gordon, you got two great weeks and now
17:12you have a legitimate sell candidate if you don't believe in it.
17:16Like people might actually give you something for Ollie Gordon and you might just want to keep starting them.
17:21Would you take Chase Brown for Ollie Gordon? Oh, I 100% take Chase Brown.
17:26Would you have an Ashton Gentry then I assume as well?
17:29Yes. Yeah. Dolphins have had eight snaps inside the five in their last two games.
17:34Big turnaround from the first three weeks of the season.
17:37Adam thought you were making fun of them. It was, no, this is a positive trend.
17:42No, no, no. For them, it's huge. It's wild.
17:44It's, it's amazing. Good for them. Yeah. And he's, he isn't catching passes, but he's getting so much work.
17:50So that's good. You can hold them. Or like he'd said, you can try to sell high.
17:55By the way, your other sell, your other winner was Drake May.
17:59So you got, we got an email from Mike who.
18:02Oh, good. Yeah. And he said, we owe. So he is still dismayed.
18:06He is still dismayed. Now, Mike is a guy who had a bet with Heath last year, a Drake May bet.
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21:39Drake May scores 47.5 fantasy points. And we get an email that says, where'd I go?
21:44Got me? Did you lose me? We hear you.
21:47Okay. Sorry. Drake May has this amazing performance, and we get an email from Mike that says, the Patriots started one and two last year.
21:55You guys put Drake May on the Worryometer two weeks ago.
21:58You had the audacity to rank him ninth this week.
22:01Please have the crew fill out the attached form and send it to me by Tuesday.
22:06So here is the Drake May apology form. And, oh God, I'm having so many internet issues here.
22:11Reason for behavior. Why were you mean to Drake May?
22:14The media convinced me he was a bust. I didn't watch the actual games.
22:19I don't know ball. I thought he wouldn't bounce back from the Super Bowl.
22:23I was jealous of Drake May. Or I thought Drake May lover, which is Mike, was delusional.
22:28And I hereby respect Drake May going forward. So you have to fill this out, guys.
22:33That's great. Yeah. It's really good. The reason that we ranked him so low is not on there.
22:39It was because he kept giving the ball to the other team and looked completely lost.
22:43But I'm glad he's figured out he was awesome today, and it's good to have him back.
22:49It is. It is. Absolutely. Okay. Dave's winners are Ramondre Stevenson and Woody Marks, two guys who had their backfield teammate get hurt.
22:56Yeah. Yeah. Kind of easy to put them together and call them winners because of that.
23:01And we don't know what the long-term prognosis is for their backfield mates.
23:05But even if their backfield mates were back, I would still say that they're winners.
23:09Let's start with Ramondre. Started in 48% of leagues.
23:12That number's going up. 4.9 yards per carry. Three catches.
23:15Had a touchdown. His schedule moving forward, next seven games, there's a buy in there.
23:20But it's Jets, Bears, Dolphins, Packers, Lions, Chargers, Bills.
23:22I love this schedule. And we know he's going to be the passing downs back.
23:27We know he's going to be the goal line back.
23:30As long as he holds on to the football, he should be good to go as a regular starter, as a number two fantasy running back moving forward.
23:39He could even be a top 12 running back if there is no Travion Henderson, maybe even top 10.
23:44Let's get crazy. Woody Marks has only started in 14% of leagues.
23:48He finally had some efficiency. Finally, a Texans running back with efficiency, 4.1 yards per carry.
23:53He had four catches. We know that he can play in passing downs.
23:57And we're going to see him continue to get those check down throws.
24:01Held up decently as the lead running back with Montgomery sidelined.
24:04His schedule is tougher. He's got Jacksonville next week.
24:07But even if Monty's out, or especially if Monty's out, you're still going to go with Marks because he's going to get a lot of work.
24:15They've got the Giants after that, then a buy, then the Chargers after.
24:19It's not really that great of a schedule. The schedule lean is much better for a remodder than Woody, but at least
24:26Woody Marks, if you've got him on your team, the floor is a bi-week running back and the ceiling is a low
24:32end number two fantasy running back and half and full PPR.
24:36And maybe something gets going here with him because he's had a little bit more juice than Montgomery really all season long.
24:42What's your favorite juice? Apple, orange, prune? Prune? Well, how old do you think I am, man?
24:48Put me down for orange. Jamie Heath? Happy to...
24:50Favorite juice? Yeah. The lemonade count? No. Why not?
24:53It's not a juice. There's a difference between lemon juice and lemonade.
24:57Does fruit punch count? Yeah, it's multiple fruits. Fine.
25:00Okay. Heath, your answer? I like a nice cherry juice.
25:03What? It's not a thing. Yeah, 100% of the thing.
25:06We always have multiple containers of cherry juice in our refrigerator.
25:09Oh, okay. I thought Heath was going to name his favorite beer.
25:13I thought he was going to say like, oh, burnt ends.
25:16Would you rather have Ramondre Stevenson or Ollie Gordon rest of season?
25:20Ramondre. Yeah, I agree. We're just going to continue to take a beating at the hands of Ollie Gordon, but Ramondre is who I'll take.
25:27Jamie, Braylon Allen and Jaden Daniels were your winners.
25:30Braylon Allen was awesome today. He did fumble. He had a drop as well.
25:34The conditions were not great, but 24 carries, 116 yards and a touchdown.
25:38And Jaden Daniels scored 32.3 fantasy points against the Giants.
25:42Yeah, just to recap Daniels, the fact that he was running in this weather was great to see with the first game back from his elbow injury.
25:50So aside from the brain fart at the end of the game, I think there's still plenty of reasons to want to
25:56start Jaden Daniels rest of season as long as he's healthy.
26:00You should still continue to carry a backup quarterback because of the risk of injury for him.
26:05And again, did this without Stephon Diggs and a less than 100% of Terry McCorn.
26:10And for Braylon Allen, I think as long as there is no Brees Hall, you're going to start Braylon Allen as worst
26:16case scenario, a number two running back and maybe a borderline number one guy if he continues to get this amount of work.
26:23So you'd like to see a little bit more involvement in the passing game.
26:28I just don't know if there's going to be his profile.
26:31But to me, this is just a better version of what you're getting from Olly Gordon just based on how he's going
26:38to run and the offense he's going to play.
26:41So are you at all concerned about Brees Hall when he comes back with how well Braylon Allen has played?
26:47He's not bad last week either. Slightly. I think, you know, just going back to the offseason and Dave did a good
26:53job illustrating this a lot about Frank Reich's history and what Aaron Glenn wants to do is to use multiple running backs.
27:00I'm going to guess short term, it will be more Braylon Allen than we want to see.
27:05Long term, hopefully Brees Hall is, you know, the featured guy to the level that we need him to be.
27:11But I think that Braylon Allen and Brees Hall can both coexist as long as Brees Hall is getting the work in the passing game.
27:19That seems to be something that he had before the injury and should have once again.
27:24Yeah, Jets schedule is really nice moving forward too.
27:27I don't think you can really buy low on Brees Hall, but maybe someone's got Brees on their bench and they're desperate
27:33for guys who they can win with now. And if Brees is out next week, I would try and make the move for him.
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28:10And we're on to the losers. Can you just, as Giants fans, take us through the end of that game?
28:16It's not going to be that exciting from my perspective because I was doing my notes.
28:21Once the 1 o'clock games end, I start doing the notes.
28:24So I had the game on my laptop and I'm doing my notes on my other laptop.
28:29Obviously, I thought they were going to win. Scadaboo fumbled and I was just like, what a ridiculous game.
28:35Remember, they were down 14 in the fourth quarter, so a tie.
28:39I would have settled for a tie then. And then they could drive down the field and I'm resigned to my fate.
28:45But I wasn't really paying attention, just like Jaden Daniels at the end there.
28:50I didn't realize what was going on. And nobody did until like three seconds left.
28:54They're like, I don't ever timeouts. So, I mean, I got my Dan Schneier and one other guy group text.
29:00And it just didn't seem like it was a Giants day.
29:04They are so lucky to get that tie. So lucky.
29:07And, yeah, I don't really have much to say.
29:09It was just – I mean, it's just everything keeps working out for you.
29:14Like the – Yeah, I know. Cowboys lost Thursday the way that the Eagles lost today.
29:19But the last three Giants games, two interceptions in the end zone on like the final play of the game.
29:25And that, I mean, it's just – they've had such bad luck for so many years as like finally coming around, I guess.
29:32But they stink. Any of those four teams could win the division, you know, like I've been saying.
29:37But the Giants stink. They have to beat the Saints next week or it's over.
29:42They're not going to beat any good teams. And Tyler Shuck couldn't beat a good team today.
29:47The Vikings are 5-0. Anytime you have a player going up against the Vikings, the possibility for them to just kill your lineup is there, Jamie.
29:55And he had negative points, two fantasy points today.
29:58So, Tyler Shuck is one of your losers. And Jalen Waddell.
30:01You know, Davis Webb is a winner today, by the way, just to say that.
30:06But – I think Bo Nix is just a big loser across the board.
30:10Yeah, go ahead. Tyler Shuck, you got to keep an eye on this left-hand injury that he's dealing with that, you know,
30:17might contribute to some uncomfortable performances for him. But yes, this was Minnesota.
30:21You know, we were concerned going into this game that he would struggle.
30:25And it was worse than we ever imagined. So, hopefully he bounces back.
30:29Next week's a much better matchup, much easier opponent.
30:31We've seen what the Giants defense has allowed to a lot of quarterbacks already this season.
30:36So, hopefully there's an opportunity here for Shuck to look like the quarterback that we know he's capable of being.
30:42And you should go right back to him as a starting option for Jalen Waddell.
30:47I think it's just we have to consider him as a number three fantasy receiver at best until he starts to show some more consistent performances.
30:55This was just awful. You know, the fact that he just couldn't get opportunities.
30:59And, you know, forget about Pat Bryant. I don't think that was ever going to be like, oh, Pat Bryant's out.
31:06Now this is going to be what saves Jalen Waddell.
31:09I was under the hope that Sean Payton taking over, you made the big aggressive move to go get this guy, feature him.
31:16And I just don't think Bo Nix is capable of making anybody look that great.
31:20You know, so at this point, I'm hoping he could just be what Corlin Sutton has been the last two years, which
31:27has been a borderline number two, number three receiver.
31:30I think Jalen Waddell having a breakout season is still within their own possibility, but just hard to count on.
31:36Who would you rather have rest of the season?
31:39Michael Wilson. Michael Wilson. Michael Wilson. His schedule gets really hard.
31:42Don't care. He didn't even do that well today against the Lions.
31:46Don't care. I care. He's on the right team.
31:49I'd rather have Michael Wilson than Jalen Waddell. And you'd feel that way if Carson Beck were the quarterback for Arizona too, right?
31:56Probably. No. I don't know if Carson Beck could be worse than Bo Nix.
32:00We know. So like the way Bo Nix is playing now, maybe, but we've seen two years of Bo Nix being fine.
32:07You know, he's fine. I'm saying he's good, but he's, he's had a half this year where he's looked good.
32:13Struggling. He's struggling. Yeah. And I thought maybe being down seven points in the second half to the chargers in week five could get him fired up.
32:21Nope. They still found a way to win it.
32:24It was a touchdown. It was a good touchdown throw.
32:27Nice post route there. I think it was a post route to, to Corlin Sutton.
32:31It was a bullet. That's for sure. And then two field goals.
32:35Dave, do you agree? Michael Wilson over Jalen Waddell.
32:38Yeah. I mean, I'm taking the L for Waddell for sure.
32:41You know how excited I was about him this year, but part of it was predicated on Bo Nix taking a step
32:48forward and he's taken two steps back. Cause opposites attract.
32:51And wave your hands like a maniac. Whenever I hear two steps back, I think of the Transylvania two step.
32:57Plus it's October, you know, But who, who was Dave voting?
33:00I don't know. Opposite. What? Yeah. I don't know.
33:03Chat will let you know. Chat will let you know.
33:06Willie Nelson. That's one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the really, really memorable music videos.
33:13Yes. Of, of our, uh, I guess childhood, but Adam was like a super child back then.
33:18You know, the old fair may have never put MTV on.
33:22I like being the one who gives the references.
33:25Uh, Dave's losers are chase Brown and the Chicago bears who scored seven points, but Paula Abdul, opposites attract.
33:30Oh. Um, so can we just forget, can we just throw this out the window for the bears since they're probably getting Caleb next week?
33:38Oh, great. You remember what it was like when Caleb was the quarterback in the first two weeks of the season, week
33:45one, they put up a ton of points. How did Odunze do?
33:48How did burden do? How did Loveland do? I'm going to be sick, man.
33:53I, uh, Loveland was another guy. Everybody was excited about him.
33:56And last week, double digit PPR points were thinking, okay, he's turning the corner.
34:00This bears offense is playing on time. And then they run into the machine.
34:05That is the green Bay Packers defense. And just a total mess.
34:08Bayon got benched. Case Keenum wasn't particularly good either.
34:11And Romo Dunze had nine targets, three catches, a fumble burden was getting just a bunch of short throws.
34:17He had one nice play, a 23 yard catch, but just it's ugly.
34:21And now you're going to ask Caleb Williams to come in.
34:24And yeah, I think Caleb is still great as a fantasy quarterback, but you know what he's going to do, Adam?
34:31He's going to hold the ball and move all over the place.
34:34And you don't, I don't know if there's anything that you can really set your watch to with this bears offense.
34:41They've got so many guys that can contribute. And when things are going right, maybe two of them do maybe.
34:47And I'm talking about the passing. The run game, I think is a lot easier to kind of predict what's going to happen.
34:54Aren't they central time Dave? Yes. Thank you. Well, when they're at home, by the way.
34:59Anyway, 246 total net yards. They allowed four sacks.
35:02Just 10 of 40 throws were quick throws. That tells me that things were going on that weren't jibing with what they were doing last week.
35:09You've got to give credit to the Packers defense for stepping up this week.
35:14It's now time for Heath's losers. Dave's were the bears and chase Brown.
35:18Heath's losers. Josh Downs, 51% started out targeted by Keenan Allen and RJ Harvey.
35:22One target, no catches. Thanks, Sean. He sent that in before the half was over.
35:27So you were like, just Harvey's done. Well, because early in that game, it was Tyler Bidet playing on passing downs.
35:33And it was RJ Harvey. I think he had in the third quarter, two carries for six yards.
35:39Just a complete lack of involvement. Played 35% of the snaps.
35:42Had a season low 4% target share. Only a 7% target per route run when he was at like 40% for the season.
35:49Just an absolute Sean Payton middle finger to the RJ Harvey fantasy managers.
35:53And RJ himself, apparently. And disaster on that front.
35:56It's so discouraging for Josh Downs. Because I think everybody that I know that evaluates talent at wide receiver thinks Josh Downs
36:02is so much better than he ever produces. And Keenan freaking Allen comes back and out targets him.
36:08And this is what Keenan Allen's been doing the last two years of his career is not being good at producing yards or fantasy points.
36:16But still getting bunches of targets and ruining young wide receivers that we like.
36:20And he did it again. And even when he wasn't there, it was kind of spotty from Josh Downs.
36:26And Daniel Jones looks awful. And so, yeah, I guess he's a number three wide receiver who could have a 15-point spike week.
36:33Yeah. And I think what's so discouraging is that you actually got 267 passing yards in 44 attempts from Daniel Jones.
36:39And after two straight weeks with a 30% target share or better, you got 14% target share two straight weeks now for Josh Downs.
36:46And I think, like, he's fun because he gets open.
36:49He kills defenders and stuff like that. But he's still really small.
36:53He doesn't do much on the outside. I don't think he's making a bunch of contested catches.
36:58So from the talent. They just have three guys that do the same thing.
37:03Well, yeah. I mean, he does it better than Keenan Allen.
37:06But, yeah, I don't know. I don't think he was ever going to become, like, a star.
37:11I don't know. Maybe that's just me. Well, no.
37:14But we thought he was going to be a number two wide receiver.
37:18And if he was going to become a star, it would be because they traded away the one wide receiver in front of him.
37:25And the other one had a chronic injury that kept him out.
37:29Like, everything was there. You're going to still hold him, though, right?
37:33Don't drop Josh Downs? No. Not in a 12-team league.
37:36In a 10-team league, I probably would. You could talk me into dropping him in a half PPR or a non-PPR.
37:42He's definitely droppable in non-PPR. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
37:45Some goal line stuff. Before he got hurt, Will Shipley got a goal line touchdown, if you were paying attention this morning on the noon show.
37:53No, on the 830 to 930 show. I definitely had a hissy fit when that happened.
37:58I thought of you when it happened and kind of giggled a little.
38:02It was not good. It was embarrassing. You had a hissy fit?
38:05Why? I was so certain that Will Shipley was not going to have a good game.
38:10And then there was that stupid pass interference penalty that set them up.
38:14Right? Well, and we had an entire segment on the 830 show, Jamie, where Adam talked about how he didn't want to start Will Shipley.
38:22So he was going to pick up Kendrick Bourne to start over him.
38:26Yeah. And so, like, he really, he put himself out there.
38:29Yeah. And it ended up Will Shipley got hurt and it worked.
38:33I know. I didn't want Will Shipley to get hurt, but I just, you know, it's just so frustrating.
38:39Anyway, Ramond J. Stevenson, goal line. Chris Rodriguez was in at the goal line a lot.
38:44Bejal Tootin got a jet sweep at the goal line where a play where Chris Rodriguez was also in.
38:49But I think it's pretty clear they're both going to be used.
38:53But Rodriguez might be preferred. Kendrick Miller had a goal line touchdown.
38:57That was weird. Alvin Kamara got, like, no work in this game.
39:00Kendrick Miller was their guy and he scored at the goal line.
39:04He was hurt, though. Yeah, there was some speculation that he wasn't at 100% and that something happened in the game.
39:10He stayed on the sideline. He played into the fourth quarter.
39:14But something might have happened there. For Kamara. And this is a bad day for Cam Skadaboo, even before the fumble.
39:20He ended up with a decent stat line thanks to overtime.
39:24But Najee Harris was in at the goal line.
39:26And Skadaboo just couldn't get anything going. And that run game is struggling.
39:30A lot of almost touchdowns. But I think you'd rather hear us recap the game.
39:35But for those of you frustrated with Alman Ross St.
39:38Brown, he almost had a touchdown. Ollie Gordon. I almost had, like, four.
39:42Yeah, a second. Who? St. Brown? Yeah. Yeah. Ollie Gordon had a second touchdown overturned.
39:47Malik Neighbors had, like, three almost touchdowns and one real one.
39:50DK Metcalf drew a defensive penalty. Depends to pass interference in the end zone.
39:54On the next play, Pat Frymuth scored. And we're going to come back and talk about Jacksonville and Philadelphia.
40:00That's our first game. We'll look at all the Sunday action when we come back on Fantasy Football today.
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41:46Visit yearup.org to learn more. So, the Eagles lose a heartbreaker.
41:49Jacksonville 19, Philadelphia 17. But the Eagles only had the ball for 25 minutes, and they threw 40 passes.
41:55Jamie, do you think this might be closer to the new normal?
41:59Or at least we'll see a more pass-heavy team, even when Barkley comes back?
42:03Because this team, well, I guess they ran it decently with Barkley.
42:07But do you think we'll see more passes than usual from Jalen Hurts, or do you think that's just kind of a one-off?
42:14I think it's kind of a one-off. No Barkley, no Bigsby.
42:17Shipley gets hurt. You're playing against the Jaguars. It's just, you know, why would you try to run into the strength of
42:24that defense as opposed to at least maybe trying to have some plays in the passing game where teams have had more success doing that?
42:31Now, granted, they're doing that also without Devontae Smith on the field.
42:35So, it was just kind of, I think, see what works, and maybe they felt comfortable enough with putting the ball more
42:42so in Jalen Hurts' hand than in Damian Pierce's hands, which would make sense.
42:46So, I would not be expecting it to continue like that when Barkley's there because when Barkley's there, he will be their
42:53best player, at least if he's 100%. So, hopefully we get a healthy Saquon Barkley next week and we don't have to deal with Damian Pierce.
43:01Hi. Adam, we talked about it this morning. By the Eagles.
43:04Right now. Well, I don't think we had a consensus on that.
43:08We have a comment up here about the upcoming schedule, and I think that's what you want to highlight.
43:14Carolina, Dallas, Washington, New York Giants over the next month.
43:17Yeah. But I've already made the point that they have struggled against Tennessee, Chicago, and the Giants.
43:22That's true, but they're also, I think, going to get healthy the next month.
43:26I hope so. Well, their healthy is a different healthy now because of the offensive line changes.
43:31Right. So, you know, I thought they held up much better than I expected in this game given Jacksonville's defense.
43:37But what will they look like when they're healthy, and what will their situation be?
43:42Meaning, like, where are they at as a team at that point?
43:46Because it's going to get ugly moving forward with what Sirianni did today and the pressure that usually comes from that city and on that team.
43:54And so how will they respond? They've weathered a bunch of storms the last couple of years when things have gone through, you know, gone the negative route.
44:02So hopefully they continue to do that, and Hurts can get right, and Smith gets healthy.
44:07And it's good to see Goddard back out there and have a great day today.
44:12But, you know, did they find something in Darius Cooper, you know, that this kid could be a threat for them to
44:18at least give them something consistent on the other side from at least maybe a touchdown perspective because Ontavian Wicks has disappeared the last two games.
44:26He could have had a huge game today. He missed a – Jalen Hurts missed him on a big throw.
44:33So it's going to be, I think, just a work in progress.
44:36But really the thing I would like to see is Barkley and Smith on the field because you're right, Heath, the schedule
44:43is going to be very favorable for them. Dave, what are your thoughts on the Jaguars coming out of this game?
44:49Anything earth-shattering? No, Parker Washington's a stud. We were worried about him for the last couple of weeks, really after last week,
44:56and he came out right away, first quarter, 51-yard touchdown, and then really got Jacksonville back into this game with a 27-yard touchdown.
45:03That was just an awesome throw, awesome catch by him.
45:06Brenton Strange, Jamie talked about it. That's somebody to consider off the waiver wire.
45:10And Tootin got a ton of work. He just wasn't efficient with it.
45:14I wrote in my notes so many times, burst with Tootin.
45:18And when you watch him, you see it. But it's not – he just hasn't been able to live up to maybe
45:25the ceiling expectation of what we had for him.
45:27I still think he's going to be a number two fantasy running back.
45:31And I wish he had more targets, three targets in this game, two catches.
45:36That actually helped you out a little bit. It got him to double-digit PPR points anyway.
45:40I like Tootin. And I wonder if he's going to – he's already got a grip on the running back workload.
45:47I just wonder how much more he needs to do to kind of push Chris Rodriguez off to the side.
45:53Who has more PPR fantasy points per game, Bachel Tootin or Chase Brown?
45:57Tootin. Chase Brown. I feel like Chase Brown had that point.
46:00Yeah, I think it's Chase Brown. Chase Brown is at 13.
46:04Bachel Tootin's at 12.7. Yeah, the two touchdowns called back last week don't count for Bachel Tootin.
46:09So Tootin – look, he has Houston this upcoming week.
46:12That could be tough. They have a great run defense.
46:15Then he has a bye. If he struggles after the Houston game going into his bye and you believe in Bachel Tootin,
46:22he's got Dallas and Washington in weeks 16 and 17.
46:25I mean, you don't have to look at the schedule.
46:28If you believe in him, that might be a time.
46:31We'll revisit it, but that might be a good time to go get him.
46:35All right, let's go to our next game here.
46:38It is Green Bay 31, Chicago 7. Dave already talked about Green Bay.
46:42Heath – I'm sorry, Dave. Well, I talked about Chicago.
46:45I talked about Chicago. Heath, what do you think about Marshawn Lloyd who had two touchdowns today?
46:50And you can see Caleb Johnson had seven carries, but all of them were in garbage time.
46:55Is Marshawn Lloyd – he's only 58% rostered. Is he a thing until Jacobs comes back?
47:00Well, he certainly is going to have to be in the waiver wire.
47:04Yeah. It's somebody that we're going to have to talk about.
47:08I think Pierre Strong did kind of fill the Chris Brooks snaps.
47:11He did. It still may be a three-headed backfield.
47:14This Packers offense has been one of the bigger roller coasters of the season.
47:18And Dallas next week, then Detroit, then Carolina. Yeah.
47:21Yeah. We may want to start Marshawn Lloyd. Okay.
47:24Remember, they're still working in some new offensive linemen.
47:27Does Zeitler play today? I think so, actually. But yeah, they'll hopefully get better on the line.
47:32Maybe they'll get Aaron Banks back at some point.
47:35Zeitler played. He didn't start. They're one of the few teams that consistently challenge down the field.
47:40It's fun. They just take shot after shot after shot.
47:43And you saw it with Watson today. You saw it with Golden.
47:46That's going to help Jordan Love have some big games, to his point about them being a roller coaster.
47:52I hope it continues. I don't think they're going to ever become a good running team.
47:57Even when Jacobs is there, they're not going to go back to being as good as they were with this offensive line.
48:04But they could certainly be better with a better running back.
48:07That being said, Marshawn Lloyd is probably a winner coming out of this game with the production that he got you in the first game without Brooks.
48:16Giants and the Commanders tie at 27. It's their second tie in the last five years, I think.
48:21It's weird. And my question is, you've got Jameis Winston.
48:24Here was the 326-yard, three-touchdown game that was inevitable, right?
48:27Almost 32 fantasy points for him. Jameis Winston and Malik Nabors with two great games in a row.
48:33And is this the time to sell even maybe Malik Nabors?
48:36Or are you just buying it? Or likely? I mean, likely he's injured, perhaps.
48:40We'll see. But they got the Saints. That's fine.
48:43Then add Houston. Then a buy. Then add Philadelphia.
48:46And then it's kind of a mix and match with good and bad matchups.
48:50But just hold them or sell them, you think?
48:53Neighbors specifically. I think you hold. Excuse me. I think you hold.
48:5620 targets is ridiculous. I don't know how many times the Giants will be in a game where they're going to run their way to victory.
49:04And even though J.J. McCarthy got in a few snaps in this game, even had a couple of carries, I think they're
49:11going to live and die by Jameis. And if they're doing that, that means that two dudes are going to get the
49:18ball thrown to them every single week, a whole lot.
49:21And it's going to be neighbors and likely. Yeah.
49:24He wasn't very happy and vice versa with Darnell Mooney.
49:27Their exchange on the sideline. Not that that has been a factor, but still.
49:31It's just when you see a team do it against Arizona and Washington and going to overtime against Washington, you know, you just wonder.
49:38Because that's how I felt about the Giants after week one against the Cowboys.
49:43They sucked the next two weeks. I think if you take off 10 points on both those guys, on neighbors and likely, like, that's still awesome.
49:51If you take 15 points off of likely, like, it's still great.
49:54Like, they're going to get hyper-targeted. And they're both playing very well with a quarterback that has no fear about challenging in
50:01tight spots and giving them opportunities to win. So if you're selling them, you're selling them for, I think, I don't want
50:08to say superstars in the case of likely, but yeah, superstars.
50:11Like, likely is in the conversation to be a top three tight end this season.
50:16And neighbors is back to being a healthy, hopefully, healthy version of himself, which is pretty awesome.
50:21So I don't think you should be trying to get rid of them unless you're getting something amazing in return.
50:27And it was actually an amazing second half for them.
50:30Like, the first, Jameis was terrible in the first half.
50:33He was 7 of 16. He had no touchdowns.
50:36I have it right here. 72 yards passing. It was disgusting.
50:39And then all of a sudden, Jameis did what Jameis does.
50:43And he just turned into, like, the best deep ball thrower ever.
50:46And yeah, it's Washington. Look at their schedule. You tell me how many tough defenses, pass rush plus secondaries they have left.
50:53Houston's on there. I know. I think that's going to be tough.
50:57Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, they have.
50:59I was driving the point home at him. Yeah.
51:02And then, like, look at the Washington schedule. The Washington next month for the commanders sucks.
51:07I mean, it's at San Francisco, then a bye, then the Eagles, then the Rams.
51:12And then it lightens up considerably. But they got Minnesota and Jacksonville in weeks 16 and 17.
51:17And they also have Houston later in the season.
51:20Like, Washington's schedule is not good. I would take anything I can get for Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt.
51:25Not anything I can get, but I would take something for him.
51:28Yes. And I don't know. I wouldn't be so sure that Jaden Daniels is going to.
51:33He didn't really do much as a passer today.
51:36They had no downfield passing game. They didn't have digs, but whatever.
51:40Yeah, he did. Was McClure in a full go?
51:42I saw him at 75% route rate. That almost felt odd.
51:46I was kind of surprised. Yeah. But he didn't have a good game.
51:50I mean, he didn't have that. He didn't get thrown the ball a lot.
51:54No, and he doesn't with Jaden Daniels. I think the thing you got to continue to hold forward for Jaden Daniels is
52:01that there's not going to be a fear of risking, a fear of re-injury because of the elbow.
52:06And so if he's going to run, that's a great sign.
52:09And so is he going to be a dominant passer in the current state of his health and the current state of his team?
52:17No. My biggest fear would be is if they fall out of playoff contention, do they just shut him down?
52:23So, like, you know, you're talking about the end of season schedule.
52:27I don't know if they get there because of just how this goes.
52:31Now, you said, which I agree. NFC East. Yeah, it's an NFC East.
52:35You know, so they could still stay in it.
52:37But, you know, they're the one team, at least for me, that feels like they're the least likely to win the division.
52:44So I think just looking at it, like, McLaurin and Diggs will be number three receivers probably on a week-to-week basis.
52:50Daniels will be in the six to ten range, you know, depending on six points or four points.
52:56Unless he just continues to do this with his legs, then he'll just, you know, keep creeping up.
53:01But you kind of know what they are. What did you say you thought the pass rate was?
53:0775% route. Yeah. I'm seeing 80%, so it was in that same range.
53:11And pretty much every single snap that McLaurin played on, well, he played 34 snaps.
53:16So about 55% of the snaps in the game, almost all, all but ten were pass plays, which makes sense.
53:22Fishing usage. And I do think, like, take the passing game numbers with a little bit of a grain of salt, just
53:28because while this was an overtime game, it was a Washington playing it safe.
53:33They've got a lead game for a lot of the second half.
53:36Like, he threw 25 passes. He averaged almost eight yards per attempt.
53:40It was a pretty good day passing efficiency. Yeah, he looked good.
53:44He looked good. Right. All right, but it's just the Giants suck.
53:47Anyway, let's go to New England. First place Giants suck.
53:50New England 45, Las Vegas 17. We talked a lot about the Patriots here.
53:55Heath, what's your level of concern for Ashton Gentry?
53:57Ten carries for 27 yards, three catches for 50 yards.
54:01You know, I think he might be that borderline top 12 running back that just always makes you a little bit nervous.
54:07This was a bad matchup in terms of rushing.
54:10Not sure. Don't, well, I think we can be pretty sure he was not 100% coming into this game.
54:16It seemed like, I thought their response to that would be maybe give Mike Washington a few more carries and save Ashton Gentry for passing downs.
54:24And they gave Dylan Laube some passing downs and used Ashton Gentry on more of the rushing downs.
54:29And that's not good at all. But mostly I still think he's a borderline top 12 running back rest of season.
54:36I'd rather have him than Chase Brown or Basialtoon.
54:38Would you rather have Brock Bowers or Justin Jefferson rest of season?
54:42Bowers. Bowers. He's amazing. He's great. All right. And that's the, that's that game.
54:46Who's the number one tight end rest of season?
54:49Yeah. It's gotta be Bowers. Kirk Cousins said. Gotta be Bowers.
54:53I mean, I'm, I'm on Bowers side, but I don't think it's gotta be.
54:57Well, no, I was the one screaming that it should be McBride.
55:00So I think I'd lost that McBride. McBride was pretty awesome today.
55:04He had a garbage time. And the Cardinals offense looks bad.
55:07I mean, this was the lot. That touchdown was sick though.
55:11It was a sick. It was sick. He's averaging five.
55:14Brock Bowers is averaging five and a half more PPR fantasy points per game than Trey McBride.
55:19It's insane. And McBride's been incredible. Yeah. Right. McBride's been really good.
55:23After the game, Kirk Cousins said that Patriots pressure was really the difference in this.
55:27It was. They got home. They got to him fast.
55:30All right. Pittsburgh. They'll bounce back. They'll bounce back next week.
55:34Buffalo's defense bet. There you go. Pittsburgh 34. Colts 22.
55:37Believe it or not, when Rico Dattle is back, Jalen Warren is a, is better than Ashton Gentty rest of season.
55:43Believe it. I think I believe it. We have, uh, we, we have on CBS Sports HQ, um, JJ Watt or Ross
55:50Tucker, depending on the time of day, uh, does a hit with our crew, our NFL crew.
55:55And I happened to listen to JJ Watt talking to Joe Musa, one of our hosts and Joe asked him, you know,
56:02how much of a difference maker is Jalen Warren's offense.
56:05And this is after Aaron Rogers on the field talked about it as well with Tracy Wolfson.
56:10Um, the reason I bring up JJ Watt is because he's in the meetings with the coaches pregame.
56:16And he said, he's just the key to their whole team at this point.
56:20You know that it just, it makes sense. Like their offense just looks much better.
56:25Um, he's been awesome. He's been awesome in the passing game when given opportunities.
56:29Aaron Rogers was talking about, he said he loves him as a teammate and he goes, part of the reason why is
56:36because he just so unselfish as a blocker. Like I, you're going to have a role for Rico Dowdle.
56:41This isn't going to be what Jalen Warren gives you, but like he's, he's, he should be their guy.
56:47If they go away from him, then Mike McCarthy's an idiot.
56:51Yeah. But comparing him to Ashton Gentry, I mean, that's, you know, that's, that's still a very valuable player and Ashton Gentry
56:57does not have a rushing touchdown this year. Isn't that crazy?
57:01No, everything he's doing is, is through the air, including in this game, his most explosive plays were through there.
57:07He also had a drop on top of it.
57:10I agree. I think Warren is better than Gentry rest of season.
57:13We've seen it now for several weeks where Warren is contributing every which way for the Steelers.
57:18How do you take that guy off the field other than maybe like two drives before the fourth quarter combined?
57:25And you want to give Rico a little bit of run.
57:28So Rico is the handcuff for Jalen Warren. Warren is a stud.
57:32The targets are great for him too. I'm, I don't know.
57:35I don't really think this is much of a question.
57:38And Jalen Warren is healthier than Gentry. It's a question.
57:41I mean, if he's just said that Ashton Gentry is a borderline top 12 running, if I had Gentry on my team
57:48and I could trade him straight up for Jalen Warren, I would do it.
57:52All right. All right. Fine. And then Jamie, I know you had originally DK Metcalf as a loser.
57:58You switched it to Jalen Waddle. It's pretty disappointing that he wasn't able to get anything.
58:02He did draw a pass interference in the end zone, but only four targets against the Colts.
58:08With the way that Rogers played today too, you know, so it was, you know, big play by Jalen Warren.
58:14It was a lot from Jeremy Bernard. It was Pat Frymuth getting involved in, you know, this was so three of five games.
58:21Now you've had DK Metcalf, nine targets or more.
58:24He just needs a volume. And so I wouldn't panic too much if you're in the DK Metcalf camp.
58:29Um, but this was just frustrating to see Rogers.
58:32Great game. Everybody else do something and Metcalf do nothing.
58:35Next game is the Bengals and the Dolphins. The Dolphins always make it interesting, don't they?
58:40But they always lose. 31-24 Bengals. Joe Burrow with 32.6 fantasy points on only 190 passing yards.
58:45We talked about Chase Brown. Jamar Chase was great again.
58:48Um, bad day for Tee Higgins. He was 88% started and he played a lot, but he only had four targets and a tough day for him.
58:57Um, I don't really know what else to say about this game.
59:00We talked about Ali Gordon. Heath, how about Malik Washington?
59:03Led the team in receiving again in a day where Malik Willis finally had a good fantasy game, but what did he throw for?
59:11Uh, he threw for 137 yards. I don't know.
59:13Any thoughts? I think it's three straight games from Aliak Washington between 11.1 and 12.1 or 13.1.
59:19Maybe in this one, 11.8. Um, like it's just kind of what you should expect.
59:23Maybe he'll score a touchdown one week and give you a 15 point game.
59:27Um, I think with four teams going on a buy, he's going to be ranked as a PPR number three wide receiver.
59:34Not this week. Dolphins are one of the four teams.
59:37Next times there's four other teams on a buy.
59:40Ready will be that's good. Good recovery. Who has more?
59:43I got to learn from you. Who has more?
59:46I'm curious. I'm just curious what they look like when Caleb Douglas and Chris Bell are actually healthy.
59:51Like it's not going to make them a good team, but I wonder what just the receiving, how it's all split up.
59:58Yeah. Who has more, uh, Ashton Gentry receiving touchdowns or Malik Willis passing touchdowns?
60:02Gentry. I'll go Gentry. Uh, go Gentry. They're tied.
60:05Sorry. I shouldn't have done who has more, but it's the only way I could bring that up.
60:11They both have two second touchdown pass of the year for you.
60:14You of all people are allowed to do a tie on who has more today.
60:19Houston 26, Tennessee three. This was a mismatch. Um, we talked about it.
60:23Mark CJ Stroud just brush off the Nico Collins.
60:26I hope he's healthy. I don't, I don't think he finished the game at a hundred percent.
60:31Nico. Yeah. I know he finished the game, but I think he wasn't, he favoring his hip a little bit in the game.
60:38That's what I was told with in the room.
60:41I watched the games. I didn't know that. Okay.
60:43Uh, well, if I'm wrong, then maybe we're just spitballing on what we, what I heard in the green room.
60:49Heath, why did you on the team that we share?
60:53How the hell did you drop Kalief Raymond for Carnell Tate?
60:56I mean, this is a loss. We are, we, uh, I think we've lost two in a row now.
61:02Um, and you know, Kalief Raymond had a great day, so we really missed him.
61:06Yeah. Better than Tate. What do you think about Carnell Tate?
61:10And then can we throw out this Titans game in general?
61:13Just no chance today against the Texans. I am just taking this as the Texans defense is mostly back.
61:19The Titans were completely overmatched. They won't be this badly overmatched most weeks.
61:23Maybe we got a little bit too excited about Carnell Tate a little too fast, but I think if you're going to
61:30do that with anybody, do it with rookie wide receivers who are starting to show that they might be really good.
61:36I still think Tate's a wide receiver three rest of season.
61:39Tater downs rest of season. Hey, Minnesota 23, new Orleans 13.
61:43And just domination here. Minnesota had the ball for almost 40 minutes.
61:46Jamie Kyler Murray, 65% rostered. We would assume that in two weeks he'll have his full arsenal, Jefferson, Addison, Hawkinson, my three sons.
61:53Um, do you think, uh, by, do you think hold him through the buy or is he expendable Kyler Murray?
61:59I think if you're rotating him in with whatever quarterback situation you have, whether he's your backup or he's been your streaming
62:06starter, you probably need to find somebody you probably want to keep your other players on your bench unless your bench is able to carry him.
62:14But look, this was his best game and we're talking 20 fantasy points.
62:18And like you said, we have yet to see this offense fully healthy with Addison and Hawkinson and Jefferson all together.
62:25And even the backfield, you know, being, uh, up and down with Mason, not being there.
62:29So who knows what it all looks like? The total picture, but the biggest thing is that he ran and when he
62:36runs, you're going to get good fantasy production. When he doesn't, you're probably going to be left with what you saw the last two games.
62:44So I don't think he's necessarily a hold. Uh, I might, my thought would be is how many people are picking up Kyler Murray on his bye week?
62:52No. Yeah. The only real argument I think I could make for it is Colts, Lions, Bills, Packers coming out of the bye.
62:59Yeah. Now I asked you about Brees Hall, maybe being threatened by Braylon Allen.
63:04I asked you about Rico Dowdle and Jalen Warren.
63:06What do you think happens when Jordan Mason is back?
63:10Aaron Jones has been awesome. And he had another good game today.
63:13Heath? I think Aaron Jones is 31 or 32 years old and they know his injury history and they're five and O and probably thinking about January.
63:21Um, so I think we'll see a heavy, not like Aaron Jones will be the lead back, but a heavy dose of
63:28Jordan Mason as the, as the one B, especially on early downs.
63:32Jones. You've, you've had Jones each of the last three weeks, mispractice play with a knee brace, left the game today, came back in the game today.
63:40Like he's been a hero for them, probably playing through something that's not, I'm sure making him at a hundred percent.
63:47So I think that's definitely one to watch. Okay.
63:49Jets 17, Cleveland 12, both of these teams. Nothing about the saints.
63:53Not a word about the saints. We talked about the saints.
63:56We talked about Vela. We talked about Johnson and we talked about, I'm flushing this game down the toilet for the saints.
64:03Okay. They had the ball for 20 minutes and 23 seconds.
64:06They were two of 10 on third down. Shuck was intercepted twice.
64:10The second one was a Yolo ball at the end of the game.
64:14It was, I agree with you flushing it for now.
64:17You're flushing it at Nando's house or your house?
64:20Cause you have an issue. Well, and yeah. And I think we, we talked about Shuck as a loser and I think
64:27we all look at Olave, Velae and Johnson's stat lines as just a reflection of what Shuck did.
64:32Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. I mean, this is combination of not having the ball and Shuck being under pressure.
64:38And you know what I was thinking since Dave is the quicker slicker looker upper.
64:43If any quarterback ever makes their first start against a Brian Flores defense and does well, as I assume he didn't face them last year.
64:50I don't think he faced them last year. I'm just wondering, you know, cause like remember like rookie quarterbacks versus Bill Belichick.
64:57I think quarterback against this Flores defense is just the way, the way Jordan love played against them was really impressive in week one.
65:05Caleb Williams was horrible against them in week two.
65:07So it's just like, and not that it was, it was his third time.
65:12I'm rambling here, but you get the point. It was rainy and all that other stuff.
65:16Jets 17 Cleveland 12. This was a game where both defensive lines dominated the opposing offensive line.
65:22The jets had eight sacks. What did the Browns have?
65:25The Browns had four sacks. It was tough to anyone to anything to get going here.
65:30The weather was bad. Oh gosh. I don't even know what to say.
65:34Let's let's wait until the waiver wire show to talk about the running backs, but Hey Heath, we got another Denzel Boston touchdown.
65:41That was cool. He was only started in 42% of leagues.
65:44And that was one of the rare occasions in this game where the wide receivers weren't completely awful.
65:49And Boston had a bad drop too. But Isaiah Bond, who had a couple of nice catches, but terrible, terrible drops.
65:56Um, it was just, I think this was probably the one game that the weather impacted in terms of the passing game.
66:03And I thought on the other, on the other side, it's just incredible.
66:07The difference between Gino Smith, when the guys open on time and he's not pressured, he looks like a good NFL quarterback.
66:13And as soon as the Browns got pressure on him, everything just crumbled.
66:17That's a great point. Also, Isaiah Bond was wide open.
66:20It was open in the end zone and Watson missed him.
66:24Watson played. Okay. Numbers are terrible, but it was tough.
66:27Oh, he was awful at the end of the game.
66:30He was bad at the end. Yeah. Um, also, but again, he, he was sacked eight times, so it wasn't all him.
66:37And, uh, Garrett Wilson's amazing. He holds the ball forever.
66:40Would you rather have Garrett Wilson or Jalen Warren or Jalen Warren?
66:43Yeah. Wilson. Uh, Jalen Warren. I think I, I think about the pass catchers that'll eventually be back for the jets.
66:50That might take a little bit off of his plate.
66:53Plus Brees Hall will be back. I'll take Warren.
66:56All right. Well, I don't know if you have Kenya.
66:59I had a very, very low route participation rate for Kenyan Sadiq.
67:02And I know he left early, but I saw it was like 20% or something.
67:07I'm going to look now 23%. And that's still really low.
67:10And I do wonder what was Mason Taylor. Mason Taylor was 63%.
67:14So I'm going to see what that says tomorrow.
67:17Cause it'll be more accurate. And I'll take a look at just the first half, but I think it's possible.
67:23Mason Taylor kind of took Sadiq off the field.
67:26Well, he's going to get dropped in a lot of leagues and then he gets the dolphins in week seven.
67:32So just keep that in mind. Denver 23 chargers 17.
67:35You know, it's just not Justin Herbert's fault. I don't know why the defense has to play so hard against him.
67:41No, no, listen, I think I've told the story before of the first super bowl.
67:46I ever watched was the bears and the Patriots.
67:48And I started off cheering for the Patriots. And by the third quarter, I felt so bad or cheering for the bears.
67:55And by the third quarter, I felt so bad for the Patriots that I just wanted them to score.
68:01And I got to that point with the chargers when Trey Harris got hurt today.
68:06It's, it's an impossible situation. And the Broncos played awful.
68:09No, but Herbert's interceptions were pathetic. Especially. Yeah. And the fumbles were bad too.
68:13Yeah. Adam convinced me this morning or this afternoon in one league to start both Trey Harris and the Ron DeGaz and that worked out great.
68:21Yeah. The fact that it was like Charlie Kohler was.
68:24No. Who was the guy that caught the touchdown?
68:27I'm sorry. I shouldn't admit. All their age, fantasy football.
68:30Yeah. That's going to be crazy too. Rucci. Yeah.
68:33I think that's it. Oh yeah. Number 40. How many, how many.
68:36H for H. How many backup tight end slash H backs caught touchdowns?
68:40That drove us crazy. Bengals had two. Yeah. No one.
68:43Sorry. Hudson, I guess. Good question. Tegan. Cardinal. Tegan had two.
68:47Yep. Oh man. All right. So anyway, thoughts on the chart.
68:50Who's the best chargers running back rest of season?
68:53LaDainian Tomlinson. I don't want to look. I love Keaton Mitchell and I, I think he's interesting to have on your bench,
68:59but they've gone to a, a three-way split at running back.
69:03And, you know, Jamie and I watched the set of the games with ran Carthon and Damian Harris.
69:08They work for CBS sports HQ. They give unflinching analysis on CBS sports HQ.
69:13And I asked them both like, is that how bad is that for a running back to split with two other guys?
69:19And both of them just kind of like rolled their eyes and said, it's the worst.
69:24And Damian Harris, of course was with the Patriots and they use 17 different running backs from game to game.
69:30And you just can't get into a rhythm. You don't get a feel for what the opponent does or how they're playing.
69:37And Vidal had a very fortuitous run for a touchdown.
69:40And I don't want people to get excited for that because on his other carries, he had 15 yards on seven attempts.
69:47This, this run game stinks. This offensive line stinks.
69:50If you want to take a chance on a running back, I guess you start Hampton, but you're going to get games
69:56like this where he's averaging two yards a carry.
69:59And then Keaton Mitchell, I would like to think that they would use them more as an explosive option out of the backfield and catching passes.
70:07They did it last week. This week, they didn't do it.
70:10I don't know why. I don't know why they do anything.
70:14They're a mess. They're Owen five. They literally should not try and win another game.
70:18The rest of the year, put Justin Herbert on ice tank for Jeremiah Smith, and then just draft nothing but offensive lineman
70:25for the rest of your 20, 27 draft and hope that you've got enough.
70:29All right. All right. All right. All right. We'll be the greatest summer of all time.
70:34If they get to draft Jeremiah Smith, I the greatest summer of all time.
70:39I think he's the one dude who might be able to like transcend all the block.
70:43No, they'll, they'll find other guys. They call play.
70:46No, well, that day can fix to an LA question.
70:49Question. Would you rather have a JK Dobbins coming off a nice game finally, or a Marian Hampton Dobbins?
70:55I'll take Hampton. And I think he'll be healthier all season long.
70:59I don't want to start either one. Detroit 45, Arizona 21.
71:02Buy, sell, hold Jared golf. Think we should try to sell high on Jared golf.
71:07No, he's been 20 fancy points or more in every game.
71:10And he plays on a, with the, one of the worst defenses in the NFL.
71:15All right. Let's just keep him then. Who's better.
71:17Did you see Jameer Gibbs get mad at him?
71:20Like just kind of play mad, but get mad at him for the sneak?
71:24No, no, they were talking on the broadcast about how Gibbs told them his goal this year is to break Ladanian Tomlinson's touchdown record.
71:32Oh, that's funny. And, uh, he has nine, I think in five games now and he got stuffed and golf did the QB snake.
71:39And he just kind of like raised his hands up.
71:42Amazing. Yeah. They're a fun team. Is there any concern about Amon Ross St.
71:46Brown? He has scored 40.3 fantasy points in PPR in his last three games combined.
71:51By low, if somebody is. Yeah. They're going into their buy.
71:54So my, you know, if you've got a St.
71:57Brown managers, one in four, go for it. He had 11 targets this week.
72:01He had 11 targets last week. Uh, Jameson Williams with the try and trade Jameson Williams for Amon Ross.
72:07What a weird game for him. Yep. Two catches.
72:10Forty seven. This is the Jameson Williams experienced. Uh, and frat.
72:13Yeah, but it hasn't been the experience this year.
72:16So high on JMO. Now it's two good games in a row for him.
72:20And I'm a little mad at Thomas for not putting Sam Laporta on the graphic.
72:25Heath, I thought of you when I left it off.
72:28I was like, he's going to see this and not.
72:31What you should have done is made a separate graphic with Sam Laporta's head on one side and Heath's head on the other side.
72:38I haven't, um, I haven't talked about Jeremiah Love yet.
72:41Neither have the Cardinals. Yeah. So at least he got a lot of care.
72:46They'll be trading him next year. I, it's so sad.
72:49It almost looks like he hit the rookie wall in like week three and preseason week one.
72:54He just wants it to be over. Like he said it last week.
72:58Yeah. But I think it's just, it's just another one of those, like sometimes ankle injuries.
73:03If they don't, if you don't let them go away, they don't go away.
73:07Well, I don't know. He hates everything Arizona right now, but here's the thing.
73:11Like you look at the Cardinals, they just faced the lions.
73:15I keep, I keep bringing this up their next six games, Rams, Broncos, Cowboys, Seahawks, Rams, Chiefs, two Rams, Broncos, Seahawks, Chiefs in there.
73:22And then just get the Cowboys and their offense really isn't operating at that high of a level.
73:28No, I think it could be, you know, if, if this is what, if they score, what did they score?
73:3421 points against the, uh, lions today. Last week they scored.
73:37Let me just check how many against the giants.
73:40They scored 24 points against the giants. Now they threw an interception at the goal line to end the game.
73:46What the hell do we expect from this team against good defenses?
73:50It could be really bad. Yeah. And he's splitting almost evenly with Algier in terms of snaps.
73:55Algier is getting the high value touches 12 of 18 on third down four of six inside the 10.
74:01I, I, I, I don't know when there will be a good time to start Jeremiah.
74:06What about McBride and Wilson and all and everyone?
74:08Well, I mean, you're starting McBride every week. Yeah.
74:11I think Wilson's the number two receiver every week.
74:14I think you want to pick up Kendrick Bourne to see what this becomes.
74:18They're going to just throw this. This is what they thought they're going to be.
74:23It was 40 plus 50 plus pass attempts. Like that's going to be their MO and whether it's successful or not, that's
74:29just depending on who they play and how, how much you're get excited about them.
74:34This was the week to get excited about them because Detroit stinks.
74:38And so I think in terms of the running backs, you know, you said this, which I don't think was wrong.
74:44Adam, when he had the big game two weeks ago, that you thought he was going to be a top 10 running back rest of season.
74:52There's going to be another game or two, no matter who they're playing, that is going to pop off, have a big run, big play.
75:00He's just too explosive. You sell them immediately. But that, so what happened that, that week was he got a ton of work.
75:07Algier did basically nothing and he got the goal line work and it just looked like, okay, the first two games, whatever, we're having fun.
75:14San Francisco. Now it's, now it's his show. Now it's his game.
75:18He re-injured his ankle. He, he hurt his different ankle, right?
75:21He hurt a different ankle last week. That's what they said.
75:25Jeremiah love. So me, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have just brushed it off.
75:29Maybe he isn't healthy, but I'm just saying in general, I'm wondering, should I trade Trey McBride for Tucker craft and a
75:36good number two receiver or something like that? You got to get higher than that.
75:40All right. The craft part of it is fine, but you got to get not just a number two.
75:46That's got to be like a borderline number. Like if you're trading for, if you still believe in AJ Brown and Devante
75:53Smith, like that's the kind of trade you got.
75:55Okay. So yeah, Tucker craft and Devante Smith for McBride.
75:58And that's a fair deal. If I need receiver help, I'm considering it.
76:02Yeah. Yeah. Don't love it, but I'm considering it.
76:05All right. Now to the game of the week, Seattle 32.
76:09Uh, Nope. San Francisco 32, Seattle 29. Um, well, if you were nervous about starting your 49ers, you got 20 points from purdy.
76:16You got a decent, you know, solid game from McCaffrey.
76:19He scored. You got a great game from Mike Evans.
76:22He was awesome. Love it. Yeah. He's every time he walks to the sideline, I'm afraid he's hurt.
76:27Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. There was a report.
76:30I don't know where it was. That said somebody suggested, or John Lynch suggested to Mike Evans, like, you're not playing.
76:36He's two weeks ago. And he said, no, I'm playing.
76:39And like the rib injury was that bad. Like they didn't want to risk him getting, you know, having further injury.
76:46And so for him to be playing through this and playing like this is just, you're, you're, thrilled.
76:51And the, one of the greatest like smack talk moments.
76:54Somebody said it in the chat. I don't know.
76:57The, the turning digs around to look at his name on the back of his Jersey.
77:02It was fantastic. Diggs was talking trash to me.
77:05He just grabbed him by the shoulders and turned around and looked at his nameplate.
77:09It was hilarious. That's cool as hell. I didn't see that.
77:13Uh, George Kittle sucks. Obviously, uh, drop him. No, just kidding.
77:16And Emmanuel Wilson, another game with 20 plus touches and a touchdown.
77:20And they've got a Thursday game against Denver. So they've already said it might be tough to get Zach Charbonnet back for that game.
77:27Uh, so you might have another week of Emmanuel Wilson as a feature back.
77:31He did fumble once, but George Halani fumbled twice.
77:34I assume another big workload for Emmanuel Wilson and the Broncos run defense other than no, no, today they were bad against Vidal anyway, but, on one run.
77:43Yeah, but I'm not ready to say they're there.
77:45Well, but you can't judge them against the chargers because they're like their whole offensive line is.
77:51It's like a preseason. Any running back. That's going to have 20, any running back.
77:55That's going to have 20 plus touches. You're starting.
77:58And Wilson's got, that was good. That was good.
78:01Could you put the chargers and Eagles offensive lines together and have a good offensive line?
78:06It would probably just be the Eagles offensive line.
78:08He's on fire. It's only if they all get to play at the same time.
78:13Well, that's right now. Right. Were there any thoughts you had on this game?
78:17Once Slater gets better, he'll kill. You know, I gotta say something.
78:21Christian McCaffrey has been good. He has not been great.
78:24Yeah. He's having the Saquon Barkley here, right? Not hurt.
78:27Playing. At least he's scoring. At least he's scoring.
78:30That brings up a good point. Cause I was going to ask you guys, I think we should have some sort of
78:37contest for the rest of the season that decides who has to write the Jameer Gibbs 400 touches article next summer.
78:43Cause nobody's going to want to do it, but he is going like, he might have 450 touches.
78:48I mean, who's the, if you're building your team right now, which running back you picking NFL NFL team.
78:54So we had this conversation with a ran and, and Damien also Damien took Gibbs me, ran and Pete Prisco all took.
79:01Is there a wrong answer? No, it's gotta be the wrong answer.
79:05I'd say. No. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for watching. Listening everyone.
79:08Oh, B we got some B John's in here.
79:11I would go B John, but I'm not quite sure why he's bigger.
79:14Um, he's bigger. You know, he's got the size to handle the punishment.
79:18Oh, anyway, you put them both on the dolphins is better.
79:22Ollie Gordon. Gibbs. This is strong, strong finish to the show.
79:25This is Tomlinson versus, uh, Terrell Davis again, right?
79:28Is that what it was back in the day?
79:31Was it, was it not Tomlinson? It was Terrell Davis.
79:34Definitely not. It was, I think it was Tomlinson.
79:37I'm sorry. It's Barry Sanders. Terrell Davis. No, it was Marshall Folk.
79:40Wasn't it? it was Barry Sanders versus Terrell Davis.
79:43I think it was Tomlinson versus Falk. Well, that thought you as well.
79:47Yes. Yeah. But the original Alexander had a couple of years in there too with Tomlinson.
79:52The late night, when I first started playing fantasy football, I'm pretty sure it was Terrell Davis versus, uh, it was late nineties.
79:59Well, Terrell Davis had like three years. Barry Sanders.
80:02Yeah. Right. The best. Um, all right. Good, good night, everyone.
80:05We will talk to you tomorrow with beyond the box score.
80:08Hopefully we'll talk a little more about chase Brown.
80:11See if we can figure out what's going on there.
80:14And, uh, whatever else is on your mind. Thanks again to Heath, Dave and Jamie and to Thomas for producing.
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