0:00We recently took a trip to Kansas City to catch a football game, and we made a full weekend out of it.
0:07We spent some time exploring the city, made sure to get some classic Kansas City barbecue, and of course headed to Arrowhead Stadium to take in the game.
0:16Between tailgating, the crowd, and the energy inside the stadium, it was an awesome experience.
0:20There's just something about a game weekend. Great food, great football, and getting to experience it all together made it a trip to remember.
0:28But while I was surrounded by fans taking in the atmosphere like I was, what hit me was just how many people
0:35were making a weekend out of it in Kansas City like I was, needing a place to hang their head after a night of tailgating and celebrating.
0:43For the local Kansas City folks, or anyone who lives in the stadium city, football season is a perfect time to consider listing your space on Airbnb.
0:51Especially if you have travel plans yourself, why let your home sit idle while you're away?
0:56You can help meet the demand when a big game or concert comes to your town and give travelers that home away
1:03from home they need to really experience their trip to the fullest.
1:07It is such a practical way to earn extra money that can go right toward funding the next road trip or covering upcoming household bills.
1:15Your home might be worth more than you think.
1:18Find out how much at airbnb.com slash host. How much time do we spend on this podcast talking about value?
1:24Value is everything in fantasy. And that's not a bad way to think about healthcare too.
1:29If you're someone who feels like you're paying too much for health insurance or just don't love the value you're getting, you should know about We Share Health.
1:38We Share Health is a non-profit alternative to health insurance.
1:41And their members pay up to 60% less than they would for traditional health insurance.
1:45Members have access to a nationwide PPO network with over 1 million physicians.
1:49In fact, there's a good chance your doctors are already in it.
1:53And how does unlimited telehealth sound? Pretty good value, right?
1:56If you're between jobs or self-employed, this could save you thousands of dollars a year.
2:01If this sounds interesting to you, take a few minutes to check it out.
2:05Call 1-888-WE-SHARE for a free quote. That's 1-888-WE-SHARE. Or check them out at wesharehealth.org.
2:10This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Swap play!
2:13Can you believe this? He's had no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
2:18Off to the races! And he stays on his feet!
2:21So here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:24Welcome to the show and happy Friday, everybody. Big day for Fantasy Football Today.
2:28We've got two shows today. We've got the starter set for the NFC Home Games.
2:33And then we've got the mailbag at 10.30 a.m.
2:36Eastern. You might hear it on Saturday in your audio feed.
2:39Chicago at Green Bay. San Francisco at Seattle. The last two times the Niners played Seattle, they scored a combined nine points.
2:46What do we expect? Nine times. What are we expecting this time?
2:50Minnesota is at New Orleans. Can we start any Saints?
2:53The Giants are at Washington. The Bills are at the Rams on Monday night.
2:57Detroit's at Arizona. And Baltimore is at Atlanta on Sunday night!
3:01But first, Tampa Bay 24, Dallas 16. You're Tampa Bay.
3:04You're up 24-10 with eight minutes and 36 seconds to play in the fourth quarter.
3:08You're at the one-yard line. Fourth and goal at the Dallas one.
3:12Do you kick it to make it a 17-point game?
3:15Or do you go for it, Coach Dave Richard?
3:18You kick it. Easy answer. Coach Jamie Eisenberg. No doubt you kick it.
3:22I have to admit, I've at first thought, go for it.
3:26Go for the jugular. And then they took a timeout and they went to commercial.
3:30And I said, what am I doing here? You kick it.
3:34But they didn't kick it! And they honestly almost blew it.
3:37If Jake Ferguson didn't drop that ball, who knows what would have happened.
3:41Deron Bland didn't drop the interception. Deron Bland didn't drop the interception.
3:45Potential pick six. Todd Bowles might be fired if that happened.
3:48Yeah, I mean, right. I mean, both coaches may have sealed their fate with what happened there.
3:54Or may have changed their fate. That's right, sure.
3:56Yeah. Well, all right. So we'll talk about the fantasy impact here.
4:00Bucky Irving, pretty cool. 86% started. Goal line Bucky Irving.
4:03Goal line Bucky Irving. They did get Sean Tucker in at the goal line a little bit late in the game.
4:10But yes, I was very – I was surprised, honestly.
4:13And that's a huge development. But do you think this is a sell high on Bucky Irving?
4:18100%. Yeah? In what regard? Like, what would you – what are you thinking?
4:23Well, I mean, look. First off, this was amazing.
4:25And he's capable of this. You know, I don't – well, I shouldn't say capable.
4:30He's capable of being a great fantasy asset and a great starter and a borderline number one running back.
4:36We've seen that in his profile in his rookie year, the start of his second year.
4:41He's just in what I still think is a bad offense, and he just happened to play a really bad defense.
4:48And if you can get great value in return for him, then that's something you should try to pull off if you have enough running back depth.
4:56That's the problem is a lot of people don't have a lot of running back depth.
5:01So, you know, he's gotten off to a good start so far this season.
5:05You know, this is, what, three good games out of five that he's had?
5:10Certainly two. Two and a half. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, I don't know what you're expecting in return for him.
5:16Like, it's easy to say, okay, I need receivers, so I'll go trade Bucky Irving for maybe A.J.
5:22Brown or, you know, somebody who's – Ooh, I would never do that.
5:26That's what I'm saying. You know, you're talking about realms of receivers that were drafted ahead of him or players that were
5:32drafted ahead of him that are in some tough spots or coming off injuries, et cetera.
5:37You know, this could just be one of those situations where you're selling high and maybe buying high.
5:43You know, so just, you know, hey, I have running back depth.
5:47You have receiver depth. I'll trade you, you know, one for one.
5:51Why would you not trade him for A.J. Brown, Adam?
5:54Well, I don't know when A.J. Brown is coming back, and A.J.
5:57Brown had a pretty – That's like next week.
6:00I think there's a chance he's back sooner than later.
6:03Well, it seems like he had a pretty serious high ankle sprain, and, you know, those are the types of – No,
6:10but listen, I think that's a fair concern is to trade for somebody that you have question marks for that even though he was drafted ahead of.
6:19But what I was getting at is like that's the type of trades you're probably looking to make at this point for
6:26somebody that was underperforming or injured or whatever, and you're hoping that the rest of season is great for that player while
6:32you're getting rid of Bucky Irving while he's at his peak.
6:36I think the question I'd have for Bucky is just how confident are you that he is the goal linebacker?
6:42Because Baker Mayfield could be back next week, and Baker will throw to him.
6:46He had four or more targets in each of the first three games, even if he's not playing on third down.
6:53But it's that goal line role that I think he really needs.
6:57Most weeks he's not going to be this amazing as a rusher.
7:00So, you know, how confident are you that – you think it's going to be maybe like Bejal Tootin where it's –
7:07maybe he's not the exclusive goal linebacker, but – It's a great comp.
7:11Yeah. I think he could be better than that.
7:14What did he show us last night in short yardage situations?
7:18He doesn't – they don't need to put Sean Tucker in there.
7:21It's like they just don't. Right. I almost think Sean Tucker – I can't – I'll verify it if you want me to.
7:29Didn't most of his work come after Bucky had a ton of work and maybe they just wanted to have somebody grinding
7:35down the clock and taking some carries off of of a poor Bucky.
7:39I think Bucky got banged up a little bit and sat for a bit.
7:44But Sean Tucker got that fourth and goal at the one carry and he got stuffed.
7:49But he scored last week in that situation. I'm not ready to say that Bucky has won the job, but maybe the
7:56coaches will be more open to using him there.
7:58Certainly, like he did on Thursday night, they might continue just feeding him.
8:03And we know that coaches will do that when they've got a running back who they've gained trust in throughout the game.
8:09And if you're worried about Sean Tucker, if you're worried about the Bucks offense because they're not going to have a lot
8:16of games like this where they're playing with a lead.
8:19They're just not. I think you could try and trade him.
8:23And there's definitely like a small increase in his value after this game.
8:27It's not going to be huge. If you can turn him into somebody, maybe if you want to go a step higher
8:34than AJ Brown, I don't know if you would trade him straight up.
8:38I don't know if you would get straight up T Higgins, Christian Watson, Garrett Wilson.
8:42I think AJ Brown is kind of like right below those guys with the chance to leap way ahead of them.
8:49If he's right and if what we saw last week from Drake May where he turned a corner turns into AJ Brown
8:56being the type of receiver that we've known him to be when he's healthy.
9:00So I don't mind chance if I need a receiver long term and I've got the running back depth to do it.
9:07Now, if I don't have the running back depth, I'm keeping Bucky, even though I don't love his schedule moving forward.
9:14Okay. Perhaps I was a little hasty to say I wouldn't do that for Brown.
9:18I just I'm a little afraid of the ankle, but we're just trying to get the range of player.
9:24And I think we did that. Yeah. Bucky Baker Mayfield could be back next week and maybe that'll open things up in
9:31the passing game a little bit because if you started a Mecca Buka, you got the 14 yard rushing touchdown, but they're
9:38not really making chunk plays in the passing game with Jalen Daniels who played a really nice game.
9:44Not unless guys are wide ass open downfield and the Cowboys just bust like they did on Ted Johnson.
9:49I think the takeaway here and we've kind of seen it from a book of before is that his athleticism is a okay.
9:57And I don't think you have to worry about the toe being a major issue anymore.
10:02Yeah. You just have to worry about the quarterback, whoever it may be.
10:06Now on the Dallas side of the ball, Jamie CeeDee Lamb quad injury.
10:10Apparently it's a bruise, not expected to be a long-term thing.
10:13But the Cowboys are basically the Cowboys, I guess, except when you look at it, Dak Prescott's only had one.
10:19His season so far looks a lot like Jared Goff's one huge game for golf.
10:24It was a Buffalo for Dallas. It was at for Dak.
10:28It was against Washington. Everything else has been 21 or fewer fantasy points.
10:32Do you have any concerns about Dak Prescott? Not really.
10:35I mean, he's still going to be one of the better fantasy quarterbacks.
10:39He always has a game like this, you know, where there's either a lot of yards and, you know, minimal touchdowns or,
10:46you know, the interceptions to me were fluky, you know, with the tips.
10:50So I'm not, no, I'm not worried. Okay. And they only had the ball for 20 minutes and 39 seconds.
10:56It's similar to what happened in week one with them where they just didn't have the ball a lot.
11:02So the Cowboys still look like the Cowboys. If CD lamb is going to miss time, maybe Jake Ferguson steps up.
11:08He missed basically four games last year and Ferguson was a monster.
11:12He had a 23% target share. He had four touchdowns.
11:15Um, he scored 17 or more fantasy points in three of the four games.
11:20Ryan Flannoy had one good game last year and three bad games.
11:23And George Pickens was insane. He averaged over a hundred yards per game and had five touchdowns in four games.
11:30And he averaged 3.03 yards per route run. Basically like the best wide receiver in football practically when, and we saw yesterday when CD lamb is out.
11:38Um, all right. Do we have an update on Tyler Guyton?
11:41Their left tackle? No, he left with a back injury.
11:45I haven't seen anything on that. Okay. Cause that's going to be pretty important to Dak was really pass rush sensitive in this game.
11:52Yeah. And that's going to be, that's, that could be blueprinty moving forward.
11:56And it especially hurts him if he doesn't have CD lamb, because that's usually his go-to when he's pressured.
12:02Anything else? We need CD also should have had like a 53 yard touchdown.
12:06Dak missed him when he was wide open. Yep.
12:09You know, he's doing great though. He's averaging 19 catches in his last two games.
12:14No, he's not. Not averaging 19. He has 19, right?
12:17Yeah. He's averaging 22. He's averaging eight and a half.
12:20No, nine and a half. All right. Sunday morning.
12:23Tune in to fantasy football today at youtube.com slash fantasy football today.
12:27We have got two shows for you. One, eight 30 to nine 30 AM Eastern, right before the London game.
12:33And then noon to one Eastern eight 30 to nine 30 and noon to one.
12:38What do we do? We don't sit here and talk like this.
12:41We just answer questions basically all the time. Uh, start, sit questions for two hours in two in one hour increments.
12:48It's eight 30 to nine 30 AM noon to one.
12:51You want your question answered. You got a pretty decent chance of it happening at youtube.com slash fantasy football today.
12:57We'll see you there. Here are your news and notes.
13:00We're still not expecting Lamar Jackson to play. Sean Payton is going to call plays for the Denver Broncos.
13:06Okay. It only took five weeks and here we are.
13:09And hopefully he can get things turned around. Jane Daniels is full go.
13:13And Cincinnati. This was interesting. Cincinnati safety. Jordan battle told the media.
13:17So stupid. So stupid that Malik Willis has a tell that Malik Willis taps the ball before every throw and that the
13:24defense could use that as a key to break on the ball.
13:28Why would you say that? Yeah. I feel bad.
13:31He must be like really embarrassed. You know, I think I would, I would think he made a mistake.
13:37He shouldn't have said that out loud. Do you think people are saying what's a battle?
13:42Did that, did he just say what's a battle?
13:44Running back news. Ramondre Stevenson still limited. You guys ranking him still?
13:48Yes. Yeah. It sounds like he's going to play.
13:51Yeah. Okay. He won't be at a hundred percent, but he'll play.
13:55How about the commanders? If he doesn't play, he might lose his job.
13:59Yeah. Right. How about the commanders waving Katron Allen, their rookie, I think a sixth round pick running back.
14:05That's wild. Yeah. I mean, you got, you know, 30 year old Austin Eckler and 20, what seven, 28 year old Rashad white and seventh round.
14:13Ja'Kory Krosky merit. Why would you get rid of a younger player?
14:16Yeah. He must, he must be struggling. White and Eckler seem kind of repetitive, but redundant.
14:21How many teams off the top of your head do you see putting in a claim for Allen?
14:27I can see green Bay right away. Miami, Miami, maybe even Seattle.
14:31They liked him in the draft lead up. I think he's a, I think he's a solid prospect.
14:36He won't be on the street for long. Ashton.
14:39Gentry was limited. So this guy goes full on Wednesday and get limited on, on Thursday.
14:44You got to just have your antennas up. Ashton.
14:47Gentry limited with foot and ankle issues. Jalen Wright limited.
14:50Rico Dowdle still limited. Saquon Barkley mispracticed. And Damian Pierce on the active roster.
14:55Let's see. Chris Brooks mispracticed again for the Packers, not looking great for him.
14:59And we saw a, they signed Pierre strong. So the idea of carrying Brooks is as deep stash is out the window for now.
15:06We'll come back to him, but for this week, you don't have to do it.
15:11And Marshawn Lloyd had five catches last week and a big route increase with Chris Brooks injured early in that game.
15:18So maybe that matters for people who are desperate.
15:20Cam Scadaboo was limited, but he, he lost the no contact Jersey.
15:24So it looks like Scadaboo is okay. Tony Pollard missed.
15:27Tony Pollard's back at practice. He's fine. Now, Kyle Mononga may not be fine.
15:32He's got turf toe and he might have to miss this week's game.
15:36Maybe one to two weeks. They said, uh, there was a report for Kyle Mononga.
15:40So keep an eye on that. Alvin Kamara practice.
15:43Jeremiah love should be fine at wide receiver. We're still waiting to hear on Justin Jefferson.
15:48He wants to play Jordan Addison. Looks like he's going to play Jamar chase practiced.
15:53So he's in the concussion protocol. He has to clear it, but getting out there on Thursday was a positive sign, but T Higgins did not practice.
16:01There's definitely a scenario where they both, there's any scenario two, zero or one of them could play at Miami on Sunday.
16:08Jamar chase and T Higgins. I'd be very surprised that T Higgins plays at this point.
16:13All right. Let's see if he gets into practice on, uh, on Friday.
16:17DJ more mispractice. Not a shock. That's their first practice of the week.
16:21Malik neighbors back. That was good to see Michael Pittman out several weeks with a foot injury.
16:27Roman Wilson, uh, with a, with an opportunity, Chris Olave and available on half of CBS leagues.
16:32There you go. Chris Olave. You guys expect to play, right?
16:35Yep. Yes. Now the commanders wide receivers. We'll talk about that game in a little bit, but neither digs nor McLaurin practice yesterday.
16:42Uh, who do you think has a better chance of playing?
16:46Digs. Digs. Uh, Carnell Tate limited with a back injury.
16:49Again, a guy who went from full on Wednesday, Wednesday to limited on Thursday, Carnell Tate.
16:54Same with Don Tavian wicks. He has a hamstring injury.
16:57We talked about that game yesterday. Jamie, if Don Tavian wicks were to miss the game, what would that mean for Darius
17:04Cooper, a Makai lemon, or even Goddard? If he plays, it's a, it's a boost for those guys.
17:10I mean, clearly Goddard would be the one that if you're talking, just ranking flex options would be the easy number one
17:16choice, but Cooper's coming off a seven target game, scored two touchdowns.
17:20That's going to be a guy clearly that Jalen hurts leans on.
17:24Makai lemon at six targets, five catches, you know, so both those guys will get a boost.
17:29It's just hard to have faith in the Eagles offense right now with their offensive line and the defense that they're facing.
17:36And a couple of Dallas got her, by the way, was limited again.
17:40He says he's going to play. Oh, all right.
17:43All right. Good. Cause I have him in Kelsey.
17:46I think he said, I'm paraphrasing. If it's up to me, I'm going to play.
17:50Oh, well, it's not up to him. Mike Evans, mispractice lab, McConkie mispractice.
17:55Quentin Johnston was limited. Oh, here's a tight end note.
17:58Colby Parkinson was limited. In the first practice of the week.
18:01Why does that matter? Not necessarily great for Tyler Higby.
18:04If you're counting on him against the bills on Monday night and on the offensive line, it looks like Jackson powers, Johnson for the Raiders.
18:12Their offensive guard is trending in the right direction.
18:15The offensive lines. We might be worried about this week could be Minnesota, Chicago chargers, of course.
18:20Um, and then on Eagles, what's that Eagles. That's going to be every week.
18:24Yeah. Uh, let's see. Um, on defense, the big stuff, Jeffrey Simmons, you mentioned the Cardinals for the offensive line.
18:31I didn't today. I did yesterday, but I should have, yeah.
18:34Cardinals offensive line beat up this week. One strike against percent.
18:38He's also, I mean, I didn't realize what's going on with that offense, but Jacoby Brissette is going to talk about this for stat of the game.
18:46He's got one of the lowest eight dots in football.
18:49His yards per attempt is horrible. They have really nothing going on downfield.
18:53You'd even look at Trey McBride. Trey McBride. It's not like he's a, he's a downfield guy or anything, but his eight eyes like 5.3 yards or something.
19:02It's that's super low. and his explosive play rate is way down.
19:06So they got to push the ball downfield and teams do that against the lions.
19:10Lions give up the most big plays in football.
19:13Uh, here's a big one. Uh, Seattle defensive tackle, Leonard Williams mispracticed with an ankle injury.
19:18So if he doesn't play, that could help the 49ers.
19:21Aziz Alshire might be back this week for Houston.
19:24Aaron Donald was limited. Both starting cornerbacks for the Patriots have not practiced.
19:28Christian Gonzalez and Carlton Davis. Uh, if they don't play, would you move Kirk cousins ahead of Drake may?
19:34No, I might. All right. There are other defensive notes, but it's time for one question for each game, but it's also time for a commercial break.
19:42So we're going to pay the bills. We'll be back in two and two fall is here.
19:48And that means football, fantasy football. And of course, caramel apples.
19:51You know, I'm a big fan of the flavor.
19:54So when I heard about the new caramel apple, five hour energy shot, I had to give it a try.
20:00And you get that sweet and tart apple flavor followed by a smooth, buttery caramel finish.
20:05It's basically that classic fall caramel, apple flavor in a convenient, portable shot.
20:09And I love this. It's sugar free, whether I'm getting ready for a podcast or taking my son to his flag football
20:16game, or just trying to keep up with everything on my schedule.
20:20I love having one ready to go. And if you're a caramel apple fan, like I am, this is a pretty easy
20:27way to get that fall flavor without all the sugar.
20:30Treat yourself to a crisp apple bite and smooth caramel delight with a caramel apple five hour energy shot only available online
20:37for a limited time at five hour energy.com or Amazon.
20:40A few weeks ago, a neighbor down the street had someone walk right up onto their porch in the middle of the night.
20:47And it was a massive wake up call. It made me realize that standard cameras are only good for replaying a crime after it happens.
20:55They don't actually stop someone from getting to your front door.
20:58That's the exact reason I switched to simply safe.
21:01It isn't just about protecting my valuables. It's about making sure my home remains a safe sanctuary for my family.
21:07Simply safe is built to stop threats before they ever start.
21:11Their smart AI powered cameras actively watch for suspicious activity and alert a live us-based security specialist.
21:16The second something is off in under 30 seconds.
21:19That agent can talk directly through the camera to warn off an intruder and call for fast 911 dispatch.
21:25If necessary, having that proactive layer of defense outside my house gives me a level of safety.
21:30I've never had before. Join the more than 6 million people who entrust simply safe with their home security right now.
21:37Save 60% off and claim a free outdoor camera with professional monitoring.
21:40When you visit simply safe.com slash FFT, that's simply safe.com slash FFT.
21:44And when you order, please write in FFT in the checkout survey.
21:48It lets them know we sent you and really helps support the show.
21:52Simply safe ahead of crime in real time. Sometimes I'm so busy.
21:56I feel like I don't have time for healthy meals and I eat a lot of unhealthy stuff.
22:01And I know I'm not alone, but guess what?
22:04There's a solution for us. And it's factor a total game changer for me.
22:08Factor makes chef created dietitian design meals that are ready in just two minutes with absolutely zero prep work or messy cleanup.
22:15And what I love most is their commitment to quality.
22:18With over 175 banned ingredients, every single meal is packed with real food that supports a healthy lifestyle.
22:24Plus with over 100 weekly menu options, you never get bored.
22:27I love their gnocchi alavaca, their filet mignon, their smoky gouda chicken, just to name a few.
22:33And again, ready in two minutes. I love factor and you will too.
22:37Let's eat real. Head to factormeals.com slash FFT50 off and use code FFT50 off to get 50% off and one free breakfast item per box for one year.
22:46While supplies last until October 31st, 2026. That's code FFT50 off at factormeals.com.
22:50FFT50 off at factormeals.com. See website for more details.
22:52One question for each game. Chicago's at Green Bay.
22:55Who do you trust in the Chicago passing game?
22:58Trust is a tough word with that team. I'm going to start Luther Burden and Colston Loveland.
23:03And I'm going to hope that Romo Dunze plays well once again.
23:07I like that. A Dunze had a good game last week with Baygent beat up on that zone heavy jets defense.
23:14That's what the Packers run as well. Packers have a hard time getting pressure on the quarterback.
23:19So Baygent will have time to make some throws downfield.
23:22I thought he made some great throws to Dunze.
23:25I might be a little more bullish on a Dunze than Burden.
23:29Burden's getting a lot of short manufactured targets. Oh, Dunze might be able to come through on more explosive plays.
23:35So put me down for a Dunze one, Burden two, Loveland three.
23:39Although you can't deny Loveland in the targets last week.
23:42And overall, just the Chicago offense playing in structure, playing on time.
23:45If Baygent isn't going to be stressed, he should be able to connect with all three of these guys.
23:51Okay. And let's see. What's our next game here?
23:54It's San Francisco at Seattle. What do you expect from the 49ers offense this time, Dave?
23:59I think they'll have a hard time winning downfield.
24:02I looked at who's winning in short area throws against zone because that's really the only way you can complete passes against the Seahawks.
24:09And it's Debo and it's Kittle. And so with those two guys, I think you've got to start Debo as more of
24:16like a flex than a number two receiver. And as long as Evans is active and playing, that's going to be the case.
24:23I'm going to start Kittle just because it's George Kittle.
24:27And if Evans ends up playing, then Debo's a flex and Kittle is like a low end number two receiver.
24:33But I don't love the matchup for Evans. He's the one that I probably worried about the most.
24:38I'd almost rather he not play. And the 49ers can focus on the run game and then keeping passes short and sweet to Debo, Kittle, McCaffrey.
24:47You're saying you like Debo better than Evans? I don't think I can do that if Evans plays.
24:52No. All right. I'm not going to be sky high on any of these receivers.
24:57Yeah, it stinks. It's definitely like you look at New Orleans.
25:00We're going to talk about next. The fact that New Orleans, which has been good for fantasy, San Francisco, which has been great for fantasy.
25:08They have arguably the two toughest matchups. And speaking of which, Jamie, Minnesota is at New Orleans.
25:13Would you start any Saints? I think Shupp is still a low end starter.
25:18I think you're definitely starting Olave. And Vele is still a number three receiver.
25:22So you're just down great expectations. Juwan Johnson is a low end starting tight end this week as well.
25:28It's just Dave mentioned the blueprint against Dallas. Clearly the blueprint against the Saints is just put pressure on Tyler Shuck.
25:35And he didn't have his best game last week.
25:37He could have had a better game if the two short runs for Alvin Kamara, if one of those, becomes a touchdown for Shuck.
25:45But the benefit for him has been the volume.
25:48And I don't think that necessarily completely goes away because the Vikings offense is inept.
25:52So it's not like they're going to dominate time of possession.
25:56So I think Shuck still has an opportunity to play well.
25:59I just would prefer if you can find somebody else.
26:02So he's in that mix of Cousins and Rodgers.
26:05And I would start Perced over him. So he's 12th for me.
26:09Not in the same spot. The other guys are for the most.
26:13And I lowered Juwan Johnson, who was like fifth or sixth last week.
26:17He's closer to 10. Olave is still a must-start guy.
26:20And Vele is still a number three receiver. I don't know if you want to talk about it now or not, Adam.
26:27I actually thought Shuck played well last week. I thought the offensive line was a huge liability.
26:32Oh, I totally agree with you. Okay, okay. Now it's what I would think is a much tougher opponent as opposed to what he said last week.
26:40It's kind of true. Very true. There's an encouraging game in Kellen Moore's past that makes me feel okay about Shuck.
26:47And so Jamie talked about that gaggle of quarterbacks.
26:50For me, it's from QB8 all the way down to QB15.
26:53You could throw them all in a hat and pick one out and say, okay, this guy has huge upside.
26:59You might as well start him. I've got to figure out how I feel about each of those quarterbacks probably before the end of the day on Friday.
27:08But Shuck is clearly in that group. And you can make the case that he can overcome the pass rush because he's got mobility.
27:16He didn't really have much of that last week.
27:18But he can run a little bit and he's still throwing the ball very well.
27:23Or he could get beat to bits by this Vikings pass rush and end up being the worst of seven or eight quarterbacks that we're talking about.
27:32I look forward to talking about that game and many other games to try and come to an idea on where these guys should be in my rankings.
27:40So we'll come back to it. But yeah, it's like you want to trust Tyler Shuck leads the NFL in pass attempts.
27:47We saw Jordan Love in week one have a ton of pass attempts against Minnesota and he had a solid game.
27:54He also had a kind of a fluky 81-yard touchdown to Christian Watson.
27:58That should have been an illegal block in the back on that play.
28:02But he did well in that game. He played all right.
28:05But you also could see the Saints. If the Saints are in your lineup, you could see them ruining your week and
28:12completely screwing you like a lot of quarterbacks do against and not just quarterbacks.
28:16Like Dak Prescott. Yeah, like a lot of players against Minnesota.
28:20It just happens all the time. Giants are at Washington.
28:23Can we really trust Jaden Daniels if his wide receivers are injured?
28:27And keep in mind, only Matthew Stafford has done well against the Giants.
28:31Dak Prescott, Cam Ward, Jacoby Brissett. They all average 5.1 yards per attempt or worse, which is just weird.
28:37I don't get it. But can we really trust Jaden Daniels if his wide receivers are injured?
28:42Jamie? I'm still starting him. So, you know, that list of quarterbacks that Dave mentioned, Jaden Daniels to me is ahead of
28:49that group just because of what he should be able to still do with his legs.
28:54I know there's a concern with the elbow, but I don't think they're going to change who he is as a quarterback dramatically at least.
29:02You know, they're going to, I'm sure, you know, work on some of the things to make sure he's somewhat safe.
29:08In any event, it would be nice if he has one of the two top guys.
29:13If he doesn't have both, then you should be a little bit more concerned.
29:18Buffalo is at the Rams. Dave, who will be the best Buffalo pass catcher?
29:22We've talked a lot about the wide receivers, but obviously Kincaid, assuming Moore is out, is going to have an opportunity here.
29:29Tough matchup for him. Dave, who's the best Bills pass catcher?
29:32You can hit the music now if you want to.
29:35Kincaid is the one that I would say will be the best.
29:39I think Shakir will get the most targets. I am worried about the matchup for Keon Coleman.
29:44It doesn't have to do with his talent. It's Trent McDuffie who's been really good against opposing receivers.
29:50McDuffie's either going to go head up against Kincaid or Coleman.
29:53And it could be Kincaid, and if it's Kincaid, and maybe I've got to study this a little bit more, then obviously
30:00I'm all out on Kincaid and I'd be much more in on Keon Coleman.
30:05But this is really a spot where I think the mismatched quality of Kincaid, unless the Rams do what the Patriots did,
30:12and that's double team him every single pass route, he should be able to shine.
30:16He should be able to play more. The Bills are going to have to throw in this game.
30:22So I want to lean into all three of these guys, but Kincaid is the one for now that I like the most.
30:29It's pretty amazing that they've allowed 85 receiving yards to opposing tight ends on the season.
30:34Total, right? They've been really good. And it's somewhat circumstantial.
30:37They got likely with the game that Dart got hurt.
30:40He still had 10 targets in that game. Kittle's first goal.
30:44He got Kittle at the start of the season before he was fully back.
30:48And then the last two weeks have not exactly been the best of tight ends.
30:53Right. But that's still amazing that it's four games and under 100 yards total to the position.
30:58How many targets have they allowed or have they seen?
31:01It's not really allowed. It's 12 catches for 85 yards.
31:04I don't know what targets are. Okay. Well, 12 for 85 isn't very good.
31:09Okay. Let's go to our next game. It is Detroit at Arizona.
31:12Jamie, Jameson Williams or Jeremiah Love? I probably still stick with Love, but I'm excited about Jameson Williams against his defense.
31:19It's pretty bad. Okay. I'll take Jamo. Easy. Jamo?
31:22Oh, easy. Interesting. Easy over Jeremiah Love. Why? He's not 100%.
31:25Like I talked about it with Scott Turner on reality versus fantasy.
31:29If you read between the lines, it just seems like they're trying to keep him available for the entire season.
31:35And they're really trying to limit his reps. And I can't love a running back whose reps are going to be limited,
31:42especially if LaFleur is coming out and saying that they like Tyler Algier more in passing situations.
31:47I don't think Arizona is going to be playing with a lead.
31:51I think the Lions are going to be able to do whatever the heck they want offensively.
31:56And I could see Jameson Williams having a week just as good as he had last week.
32:02Maybe fewer catches, but triple digits in yardage. We can stay on Jamo here and we'll just skip him when we get to the game.
32:09But like Jalen Waddell, you know, I talked about yesterday.
32:13I can't really figure out why with Waddell, why he's good some weeks, why he's not.
32:18I can't figure it out with Jameson Williams. You know, Dave, I sent you a stat about the coverage schemes that he
32:24might do well against, but I think it's such a small sample size.
32:28And I don't know, like it does really well against cover three and not cover two.
32:33And what did I say? Arizona doesn't play a lot of cover three.
32:38Or they do, whatever the hell I said. But yeah, like what's the reason why you have confidence in Jameson Williams?
32:44Because his target share was 23% in week one.
32:47It hasn't been higher than 16% in any of his last three games.
32:51Even last week, 16% target share. And yet he still had a lot of catches in the game.
32:57Because they threw 50 something times, which could happen.
32:59Right, right, right. And I don't know if they're going to have to do that.
33:04That's fair to say. So that's why I said I don't think it's going to be as many catches.
33:10But it's one thing to say, okay, he's good against this coverage scheme.
33:14He's bad against that coverage scheme. When you don't have good football players on your defense and you can't generate a pass
33:21rush and you're letting faster receivers run free, it doesn't matter what scheme you're running.
33:26Jameson's more talented. Malik Nabors was more talented last week.
33:29And he had Jameson. He's always more talented. That's the thing.
33:32He's so talented. He just doesn't get enough targets.
33:35But they're going to be able to get spots where he's open.
33:39And I would be surprised if Jared Goff ignored those spots.
33:42I want to go back to the Ram side.
33:45Or do you want me to save this? No, let's save it.
33:49Look, I love Jameson Williams. It's frustrating because you can't predict him.
33:52No, but you do know what kind of upside he has.
33:56And so you've got to make the choice as a fantasy manager.
34:00Do you want to – it's FOMO. Do you want to leave a guy who could go off for 5, 1, 10, and 1 on your bench?
34:08And if you are, are you doing it for a running back who might get 14 touches?
34:13And it's a favorable matchup, but is he going to really bust out for 100 total yards and a touchdown himself?
34:20And I would say no. I think there's more upside with Jameson Williams.
34:24Yeah, there's always more upside with Jameson Williams. There's always more downside too.
34:28How about Jameson Williams or Emmanuel Wilson who's got like a steadier role?
34:32Awesome. I'll take J-Mo. Jamie, I look at Baltimore and Atlanta.
34:35I see Brian Robinson Jr. is on the most activated list, which is a cool list if you're on CBSSports.com.
34:42You can see who people are putting in their lineups to start.
34:45He's only 20% started as of now, but that's a big increase from last week.
34:50Do you have any interest in starting Brian Robinson Jr.?
34:53Yeah, I'm forced to in a couple leagues. I made this comp on CBS Sports Network with Dave and Heath yesterday.
35:00Ollie Gordon had nine carries and had 100 yards and a touchdown.
35:03And everybody's excited to start him this week, understandably so.
35:07Brian Robinson Jr. has had 10-plus touches in each of the last three games, 10-plus carries in each of the last three games.
35:14And he's coming off a game where he just scored three touchdowns, had four touchdowns in his last two games, and has
35:218.7 PPR points or more in three straight games.
35:23I don't know if there's a huge difference here in terms of what the workload may or may not be, assuming Jalen Wright is playing.
35:31I would expect Gordon to have more, but I don't know if it'll be by much, just given how the Dolphins offense typically operates.
35:39So not to say that you shouldn't be excited about Gordon, but you should probably be a little bit more excited about Brian Robinson.
35:46And when we start to talk about the Kyle Manon guys, the Blake Corums, the Trayvon Hendersons, the number two running backs,
35:53the backup running backs that get work or maybe enough work that you can buy into it, this Falcons offense in the
36:00last two games with Michael Penix has been amazing.
36:03They scored 80 points. The run game has been exceptional.
36:06And Brian Robinson Jr. is a big part of it.
36:09So it's going to be tough to say, okay, must-start guy.
36:12It's going to be tough to say he's anything more than a low-end number two running back or a flex.
36:19But if you're just starting to look at it to some of the questionable backfields, throw Tennessee in there if you want,
36:26but Washington and Denver and some of these other situations where these running backs aren't necessarily one standing up above the rest.
36:32Wouldn't shock me if Brian Robinson now scores him again.
36:35Okay. Brian Robinson Jr. Now, Jamie says he's forced to start him.
36:39He's got him 36. We're not telling you you should start Brian Robinson Jr., but a lot of people are.
36:45And okay. That's our last game. We'll talk about that in a bit.
36:50Chicago is at Green Bay. Now we discussed the Bears offense.
36:53Let's discuss the Bears defense. They gave up 37 points at Carolina, 12 or fewer points in each of their last three
37:00games against Minnesota, Philadelphia, and the Jets. And their DST has been actually good.
37:04They blitz a lot. They have 10 sacks. However, they've seen the fewest amount of plays by far.
37:10192 plays have been run against the Bears. The next fewest, 228.
37:14I mean, that is a huge gap. And they're also...
37:17Yeah. Is that a week four stat? Like, where were they coming into week four?
37:21Yeah, right. The Jets... Right. But even if you added like 30 plays, yeah, they still would have seen the fewest plays in football.
37:29It's crazy. So anyway, the one thing I noticed about them and also about Jacksonville, who we keep praising, those two teams
37:36are in the bottom six in yards per play defensively.
37:39Jacksonville has the fourth worst yards per play and the Bears have the sixth worst yards per play.
37:44I thought that was weird. But anyway, what do you expect, Dave, from the Packers offense, can we trust Jordan Love, you know, and then like Tucker, whatever.
37:53You know who's on the Packers. I don't have to name them.
37:57I'm in a weird spot with them because I can't get away from Christian Watson or Matthew Golden in fantasy.
38:03But Jordan Love is like barely on the fringe of that group of quarterbacks.
38:07I guess he should be included because he does have upside because he's throwing to Christian Watson and Matthew Golden.
38:14And let's not forget about Tucker Craft either. I'm starting those three guys, but I'm not crazy about Love.
38:20And that's a great song. It's sad to hear.
38:22But also, I know this Bears defense is better.
38:25How much am I buying it after they held the Jets to 0 for 7 on third downs?
38:31They barely had the ball. And then Philadelphia the week before, just that offense isn't what we thought it was.
38:37I kind of feel, I feel like the difference is when the Packers have the ball, they will throw a lot because
38:44I don't really believe in their run game. And it's just going to be a matter of how aggressive the Bears are with their pass rush.
38:52I think they're going to be pretty aggressive. They'll probably play a lot of man-to-man.
38:57Jordan Love really does wilt under pressure a good amount of the time.
39:01At least that's his history. I think I'd try and find a better quarterback than Jordan Love if he can this week.
39:08As a bye-week QB, he's fine. But to me, he's not a top-12 QB.
39:12I think Jamie has him 12th right around there.
39:15Who do you have him ranked over, Jamie? I'm open to an argument here.
39:19I'm struggling with him, Cousins, Rogers, that whole group as well.
39:23So it's just one of those situations. I think you nailed it.
39:26They're going to throw the ball a lot. That's just their M.O.
39:30right now because they can't run the ball. You would expect, just given how the Bears offense has been operating, that they're
39:37probably going to be chasing points just based on how their games have gone so far this season.
39:43They lost another defensive player, one of their better ones, Nedron Cooper.
39:46So it's not going to help. I think just looking at it right now, the history of Jordan Love is 30-plus pass attempts.
39:54He's typically been 20 fantasy points or more, and I think that's kind of where he'll be.
39:59So a low-end number one quarterback. Yeah, there's one thing holding him back based on his history, and that he just does not run.
40:06In fact, of all qualified passers, there's like 29 of them, Jordan Love has the fewest rushing yards.
40:12He has negative eight rushing yards, and that is because, one, he doesn't run, but two, he took three knees.
40:18He kneeled down three times last week, and he's one of those guys when he kneels down, he runs like three yards
40:25back every time, and then he kneels down. So he loses you a lot more fantasy points, so you don't want him in big trouble.
40:33Take the under on his rushing yards. Yeah. So he's at negative eight rushing yards.
40:38But it is, no, I mean, it is a big deal.
40:41It's not like, now he's like Jared Goff. He has to throw for massive numbers because he used to be a 250-ish
40:48rushing yard kind of guy, I think, and it's not happening right now for whatever reason.
40:53All right, Tucker Craft or Colson Loveland? Craft. Still Craft, but it's getting closer.
40:57Tucker Craft or Isaiah Likely? Likely. Agreed. Tucker Craft or Juwan Johnson?
41:01I'll take Juwan. I'll take Juwan. Okay. Green Bay running back or Brian Robinson Jr.?
41:06Brian Robinson Jr. I think I would lean B-Rob as well.
41:09Do we really think Marshawn Lloyd's going to get a bunch of targets again?
41:13Because that would be a differentiator. Again, it was directly related to Chris Brooks getting hurt.
41:18His route participation rate more than doubled. And now they've added Pierre Strong.
41:22They might give him an opportunity. It's probably, it's gross either way.
41:26It's probably safer with Brian Robinson Jr. It's just one of those situations where they haven't been able to feature one guy over the other.
41:34And so the touches may be similar for Robinson versus the, you know, top Packers running back for this week.
41:40So take your chances with the team that's running the ball better.
41:44Start Watson. Start Golden. Now, Tyson Bajant, we're not going to start.
41:48Probably not. He had a solid game. He had a bi-week replacement in the Superflex League, obviously.
41:53I mean, you are talking about Case Keenum had a strong game.
41:57Tyson Bajant wasn't bad. You know, so Ben Johnson's offense works.
42:00Bajant got a little lucky. On this team are tough.
42:03I mean, they are tough. I think, let's just start with Loveland here.
42:07And then we'll work on the committees, the backfield and the receivers.
42:11Loveland. There might not be a backfield committee. There might not be.
42:15And then that would be an easy decision, obviously.
42:18Yes. Loveland is 12th for Jamie, 15th for Dave, 21st for Heath.
42:21Gesicki or Loveland? Gesicki if the receivers are out.
42:24Yep. And if Chase plays? Or Higgins plays? I still might go Gesicki if one is out.
42:29I would too. Yep. But if they're both there, then I'll take Loveland over Gesicki.
42:34Yeah. All right. You guys don't have that. I mean, there's reason to be encouraged by Loveland.
42:39It's obviously not going back to him as a must-star guy.
42:43But you do have a nine-target game. Like, that's what we're asking for from him, is to not necessarily be nine per week.
42:50But, you know, anything north of six is encouraging.
42:53And so after the sluggish start, I don't know if it's a Bajan thing.
42:57I don't know if it's a Ben Johnson thing.
43:00I don't know if it was a matchup thing last week against the Jets.
43:04There is a history with these two teams, obviously.
43:07And they played each other three times after week 14 last year.
43:11In two of those games, Loveland was 12 PPR points or more, including the monster game in the playoffs.
43:17And he averaged 14.2 PPR points against his defense.
43:20So you're, again, now down a linebacker. We're now looking at the way that this team has played and how much the Bears had the ball.
43:28And Dave talked about how he targeted, Bajan targeted Odunze.
43:31Loveland still led the team in targets. You know, so this is an opportunity here for him to hopefully build off this as opposed to regress.
43:39So I think if you were looking at it, depending on who your streaming tight end had been in place of Loveland,
43:46if you took Jawan Johnson, you should stick with Jawan Johnson.
43:49If you took, if you drafted Loveland and Likely or Loveland and Kittle, you know, you're starting those guys over Loveland for this week.
43:57I would start Loveland over Kincaid. I just think the matchup is brutal.
44:01And you've seen two bad games for Kincaid. And the route participation and the playing time has changed a little bit for Kincaid the last couple of weeks.
44:10So for me, I would lean Loveland. But fair argument.
44:13I just think you're looking at it right now is like, this is why you invested in this guy was to be featured in the offense.
44:21And he finally was featured in the offense. Was it a huge game?
44:25Six for 57? No way. But nearly a touchdown.
44:28That's what you're nearly had a touchdown two weeks in a row.
44:31We've been saying that about Loveland almost every week this season.
44:35Two weeks in a row. Two weeks in a row.
44:38But now we're talking about the involvement. And if the involvement's there, I'm going to start.
44:43All right. So that's the one big difference is that his target per route rate went crazy in week four.
44:49It was practically 35%. So more than one out of every three throws from Tyson Bajan was going to Colson Loveland.
44:56That's amazing. Does it continue? That's what worries me.
44:59And so I don't want to get too excited.
45:01He's just outside of my top 12. And he might get pushed in there if all these other receivers end up coming back healthy in Cincinnati and Minnesota.
45:10Well, you heard earlier Dave likes Odunze better than Burden.
45:13Jamie likes Burden better than Odunze. Adam likes Kalief Raymond better than George Pickens.
45:18No. Not anymore. We're not going to start Kalief Raymond.
45:21He's 53% rostered. Real quick. All right. I've got a lot of questions about the Bears receivers.
45:26That should help. But we'd start both Packers receivers over them, right?
45:30Yes. Yes. Josh Downs or a Bears receiver? Bears receiver.
45:33How do you rank them, Dave? Odunze, Downs. Odunze, Burden, Downs.
45:36Odunze, Burden, Downs. Okay. Keon Coleman or a Bears receiver?
45:39Khalil Shakir or a Bears receiver? Bears receiver. Burden, Coleman, Shakir, Odunze if more is out.
45:44And Dave, what's your order? Odunze, Burden, Shakir, Coleman.
45:47All at minimum number three wide receivers. Now, if Monongai doesn't play easily, Swift to the moon.
45:53If Monongai does play, Jamie, how do you view them?
45:56I view Swift as a high-end number two running back, must-start guy still, and Monongai as a low-end number two running back, high-end flex.
46:03How would you view them compared to Emmanuel Wilson against San Francisco?
46:07I would go Swift, Wilson, Monongai. How about versus Luther Burden?
46:10I would start both Bears running backs over Luther Burden.
46:13They have only had double-digit PPR fantasy points in the same game three times in two years, and one of them was actually before Monongai became a thing.
46:22So I know it's tempting because they are running incredibly well as a team.
46:27But one of them was this season, right? Week one?
46:30Yes. Yep. Week one, they both had 20 or more.
46:33Week seven, week 13 of last year, and week one of this year.
46:37I think that's pretty much it. Let's check the comments here.
46:40Questions from the chat. Odunze or Shakir? We answered that.
46:43I'll go Rome. I would go Shakir if Moore's out.
46:47Burden or Valle? Burden. I believe I have Burden a few spots higher than Valle, yes.
46:51Golden, Downs, or Dante Myers? Golden. Golden. Golden's going to be the guy even if the Bengals receivers sit.
46:57Kraft or Higby? Kraft. K-R-A-F-T. K-R-A-F-T or F-A-N-N-I-N-J-R? You've got to put a space in between the N and the J.
47:04I did. I paused. Kraft for me. Kraft, but it's close.
47:07Odunze or Carnell Tate? Tate. I have Odunze ahead of Tate.
47:11Christian Watson or Matthew Golden? Watson. Agreed. Matthew Golden or DeAndre Swift?
47:15Swift. Swifty. I'll start Golden. Especially if Menonga's out.
47:17If Menonga's in, I think I'll start Golden. Otherwise, Swift.
47:21They're close. Golden or Tootin? Golden. Agreed. Bears, DSD.
47:23Starter sit? I don't mind them. Low-end starter. I think they can get to the quarterback.
47:28I think they can rack up some sacks and maybe even find a turnover or two.
47:33We'll be back to talk about San Francisco at Seattle when we return on Fantasy Football Today.
47:39Take a look at your boring old debit card.
47:41Now, imagine you can put a custom design on it and make it unique.
47:46And you can seamlessly manage your money. You can do this with Cash App.
47:50Cash App is way more than just a safe way to send and receive money.
47:55With the Cash App card, you unlock a ton of perks without all the hidden fees.
48:00Enjoy benefits like exclusive early access to nationwide concert pre-sales.
48:03Kendrick Lamar and Sabrina Carpenter, to name a couple of recent examples.
48:07Plus, discounts on everyday purchases and popular brands you're probably already spending money on.
48:11And nothing's more important than security. Cash App also adds security to your money by declining suspicious card transactions and sending you
48:18a notification to make sure the payment is really you.
48:21New Cash App customers can earn $10 if they use the code CASHAPP10 in their profile at signup and send $5 to a friend within 14 days.
48:29Terms apply. Download Cash App today and make your money work for you.
48:33I'll be honest with you, I've never really enjoyed shopping for clothes.
48:37It's just not my thing. But I do like getting nice clothes and I like looking good and I like feeling confident when I get dressed.
48:45So what's the solution here? It's Stitch Fix. This is an online personal styling service that has helped so many people get better style effortlessly.
48:53So stop scrolling through a bunch of websites and stop driving to stores and just go to Stitch Fix.
48:59Here's how it works. It's very simple. You take a quick style quiz.
49:03You share your size, your vibe, your budget. You're going to get linked with a stylist and an actual human being, by the way.
49:11So you get linked to the stylist and they do the rest of the work.
49:15You get sent a fix box with clothes that actually fit you and make sense for your style and your needs.
49:22And then you try them on. You keep what you like.
49:25You send back what you want to return. The returns are free.
49:29The shipping is free. No subscription is required. And you're going to get a free try on for your first order.
49:36So get started today at Stitch Fix dot com slash football.
49:39That's Stitch Fix dot com slash football. San Francisco at Seattle.
49:42And just something that I don't like for San Francisco's offense.
49:46They have been becoming more pass heavy each of the last two years.
49:50They are now 29th in pass rate. I don't like that.
49:53No, I don't think anyone has more than eight targets.
49:56Everyone's targets are down. Like McCaffrey's targets are down.
49:59So Brock Purdy is averaging 28.3 pass attempts per game.
50:02It's only four games and things can change. But I'd love to see them throw the ball a little bit more.
50:09Maybe they'll have to in this game. All right.
50:12Like you've got all these must start guys, Jamie, for the 49ers.
50:15And they're facing a team that basically humiliated them twice at the end of last year.
50:20Are you trying to get away from any of the must start guys for for San Francisco?
50:26Yeah, it's so hard to with the two teams on a bye and all the injuries, you know, really it comes down
50:33to how much do you trust Mike Evans and Debo Samuel?
50:36Because Purdy's having an MVP season. You're not benching him.
50:39Kittle is Kittle. You're not benching him. McCaffrey's McCaffrey.
50:42You're not benching him. So do you have replacement options for Evans or Debo?
50:46I think just looking at it, Seattle's secondary has obviously been amazing.
50:50There's only been one receiver so far with double digits in PPR.
50:54That was Terry McLaurin. And number two and fewest fantasy points allowed to the position.
50:59So I think if you're just, you know, they're probably just considered high end.
51:03They should be considered high end number three receivers.
51:06Or for me, I have it as Evans is a high end number three receiver.
51:10Debo is just a mid-tier number three receiver. So it's probably going to be, it's going to come down to who gets
51:17the touchdown if they do catch one. I have more faith in Evans doing that than I do Debo.
51:23Just keep in mind, both these guys weren't on the roster last year when they played them.
51:28So, you know, that changes things a little bit.
51:31Plus, you might not have Leonard Williams. The secondary still been a little bit questionable for Seattle by comparison to last year
51:38in terms of just the overall play. Not in terms of the production allowed.
51:43So we'll see how good Purdy is against this defense.
51:46It's not going to be easy. So, you know, just don't expect, I think, this to be one of those weeks where
51:52Purdy, McCaffrey, Kittle, and the receivers lead you to your fantasy victory.
51:56You just hope that they help you get there and not ruin your week.
52:01If you have Stafford and Goff, definitely start them over Purdy.
52:04Other than that, you know, maybe Trevor Lawrence. Dave has Lawrence one spot ahead of Purdy.
52:09Jamie has Purdy two spots ahead of Lawrence. Heath has them back-to-back.
52:13But we're not starting Jaden Daniels. And we're not starting Brissette over Purdy.
52:17But you guys have, you both have Purdy one spot ahead of Brissette.
52:21So if somebody wanted to take that gamble, it's certainly not crazy.
52:25And then Kittle, yeah, I mean, even Seattle last year, they weren't very good against tight ends.
52:30So who's sitting George Kittle at this point? We'll talk more about, I'm sure we'll have some Evans and Debo questions in a minute.
52:37Oh, what was I going to say? I don't remember.
52:41Dave, for Seattle, Sam Darnold, you have him 19th.
52:43I think Jamie has him 17th. How do you feel about Emmanuel Wilson?
52:47Is he a must start after last week? He's got to be because of the workload alone.
52:53And because we can expect him to see north of 15 touches, maybe even a couple of catches, he caught a touchdown last week.
53:00And we know he's the goal line guy for the Seahawks.
53:04I just think you roll with that as reasons for him as a number two running back.
53:09There's two floor situations where I think matter here.
53:1212.3 PBR points or more in every game. 49ers allowed a running back to hit that number.
53:17And 11.7 PBR points. Seven of ten games in Wilson's career where he's had at least ten carries.
53:23He's hit that number. So there's a 70% success right here if he's getting ten carries, which barring injury should happen.
53:29Then you're looking at hopefully him hitting that number.
53:32That puts him in the range of a number two running back right out of the gate.
53:37And so the role in the passing game was important last week.
53:41He's going to continue to have the role of the goal line.
53:45I just don't see anybody on the roster taking him off the field for significant stretches, again, barring an injury.
53:51So it's not the easiest of matchups. But there are numbers here that suggest that if he just gets the work that
53:58he's been getting, or at least got last week, that he should be successful.
54:02It's not the easiest of matchups. They're giving up 3.9 yards per carry to running backs.
54:07But find a running back and get 24 touches and tell him you're sitting that guy.
54:12Yeah, you can't do it. You can't expect what he did last week, though.
54:17And then just the one other point that's worth bringing up here is...
54:21Is this the game of the week? Yeah! Wow.
54:23This is the game of the week? Niners and the Seahawks!
54:27Well, you kind of took the Bills and the Rams for me, Dave, so this is the game of the week.
54:33Hey! We better have two games of the week this week.
54:37What's wrong with this game? Niners and Seahawks? NFL-wise, this is an amazing game.
54:41It's an amazing game, but I don't know if I'm ready to start everybody in this game.
54:47We just went over reasons why we're a little pessimistic for the receivers.
54:51The Bonanza has been retired for years. For years!
54:53This is not the Bonanza. This is just the game of the week.
54:57And you ruined the Bills-Rams with your unique music.
55:00By the way, I will say, I had completely forgotten about Game of the Week until you did that.
55:06So I do thank you for ruining Bills-Rams. I don't believe that for a second.
55:11I swear to you. There's no way. I swear.
55:14I don't know if I would let you host another Friday.
55:17I swear. If you forgot Game of the Week again.
55:20I forget all the time. But who's the offensive?
55:23Let's go. What's that? Who's the offensive coordinator for Seattle?
55:26Oh. His name's Brian. That's his name. Where did he?
55:29Brian Flurry. Okay, yeah. And where did he used to work?
55:33At Marvel. Cisco. Oh. Not at Marvel. Isn't there like a Fury or a Flurry?
55:37No. Dairy Queen would have been the better joke because of Flurry.
55:41Although it's a blizzard at Dairy Queen. Nick Fury.
55:44Look. Yeah, so maybe a different fast food. The fact that you had to Google that is impressive.
55:50Impressive? I don't know if impressive is the right word.
55:53I think Kyle Shanahan will be on top of that and the defense will be on top of that and that could make things harder for Wilson.
56:01You're still starting him. It's the workload. It's the opportunity.
56:04But I don't think he does nearly as well as he did last week.
56:09CBS, feel free to hire me so that I can remind Adam about the game of the week.
56:14Thank you, Mel. You're hired, Mel. Sending a resume.
56:17All right. Burden or Mike Evans? Evans. Burden. Nice beard itch.
56:20That was Dave itching that beard. Very vocal. Oh, you could hear that?
56:24Yeah, yeah. I'm surprised. Oh, I'm sorry. That's terrible.
56:27I apologize. Evans or Watson? Christian Watson. Darnold or Brissette?
56:30Brissette. Jacoby. Lawrence or Purdy? Purdy. Trevor. Evans, Vele, or Roman Wilson?
56:34Evans. Purdy or Cousins? Purdy. Agreed. Emmanuel Wilson or a beat-up Ashton Gentty?
56:38A beat-up Ashton Gentty. Gentty, but that's close. Evans or Jalen Warren in the flex?
56:43That's not close. Jalen Warren. How is that not close?
56:46Are we sure? Yeah, it's Jalen Warren. The Dowdle plays.
56:49Still worn. It's still worn. Close. Purdy or Jacoby Brissette?
56:52Purdy. Brock Purdy. Emmanuel Wilson or Braylon Allen? Wilson.
56:55Ew. The initials are EW, so I said ew.
56:58Now, I will say this about Purdy. Last year, you look at his game log.
57:03He did not do well against tough opponents, and he destroyed easy opponents.
57:07This year, he's already done well against the Rams.
57:09Now, the Rams were sleep-deprived, so I don't know if that counts.
57:13And he scored 23 points last week against the Broncos.
57:16It was a bit of a struggle, honestly. And it picked up when Sertan got hurt, and George Kittle had that late touchdown.
57:23So he didn't play great. It was the worst game Purdy's played this year.
57:28But already, he's had two good performances against really good defenses.
57:31Seattle's DST, they're about eighth in the rankings. I suppose you could get away from them, or you could just...
57:37It's one of the best DSTs against a team that gives up the fewest fantasy points to DSTs.
57:43I wouldn't drop the Stalks. You could take your lumps and then use them next week against Denver.
57:49Okay, another tough game. Minnesota is at New Orleans.
57:51And I think one of the good things about Tyler Shuck is that he gets rid of the ball quickly, even when he's not being blitzed.
58:00One of the fastest releases in the NFL, not like how fast he actually throws the ball, but how quickly he gets the ball out of his hand.
58:08I'm sure you all know what I'm talking about.
58:11Look, the easy ones in this game are what?
58:14Aaron Jones, like... You're talking about the best matchup right now in fantasy.
58:18The Saints give up the most fantasy points to running backs, 5.2 yards per carry.
58:23They have faced amazing running backs, though. So, start Aaron Jones.
58:26I assume Justin Jefferson is a no-brainer if he plays.
58:29Yep. If he doesn't play, then it gets a little trickier.
58:33Who's a better player at his position if Jefferson's out?
58:36Addison or Hawkinson? I think you've got to go Hawkinson at this point, just based on what we saw last week and how Kyler's playing.
58:44So, it's... I hope it's close, meaning that they both play well and Addison has a big game.
58:49Because, you know, look, two weeks ago, it was Addison in the game that Jefferson got hurt against Tampa Bay.
58:55Yeah. Last week, it was Hawkinson against the Dolphins.
58:58And, you know, defensively, you could see both playing well against New Orleans.
59:02I think you just go with... I would just go with the hot hand and go Hawkinson, who had 13 targets last week.
59:09Are you guys ranking Jefferson? I'm sure we will after today if he practices again.
59:14Okay. And if Jefferson plays, would you start Kyler Murray or Tyler Shuck?
59:18Chuck. Chuck. Kyler Murray or Kirk Cousins? Cousins. Cousins.
59:21I hope Kyler comes out and has a good game.
59:24They have yet to play a full game together, Kyler and Murray.
59:28So, we have no idea what this will look like.
59:31Kyler and Murray. How about Kyler and Jefferson? They have yet to play a full game together.
59:36So, it would be nice to see something positive.
59:39And then you could say, okay, maybe this is a quarterback to use moving forward.
59:44He's averaging 11 fantasy points per game. You know, so it's been ugly.
59:48And that's throwing out week one. Do you think they played Call of Duty together yet?
59:53No. Wow, they haven't even done that yet. Wow.
59:56So, Tyler Shuck is about 11th or 12th in the rankings.
59:59And, yeah, we know the deal here. Jordan Love had a good game on 42 pass attempts.
60:04Caleb Williams was terrible. Baker Mayfield was terrible. Malik Willis was beyond terrible against the Minnesota Vikings.
60:10And Tyler Shuck does lead the NFL in pass attempts.
60:13So, certainly could have 40 plus. And then Alvin Kamara.
60:16Start or sit, Dave? Don't want to start him.
60:19Don't love the matchup for him. Touchdown dependent. Although, he had a couple of nice targets.
60:24And they tried to get him going even a little bit more than they did.
60:28High end number three running back. Kamara or Devon Vele?
60:31I'd go Vele. Knee jerk reaction is Vele. You know, one thing I don't like about Vele, he has been so far
60:38one of the least efficient wide receivers in football.
60:41More is that he doesn't get targeted that much.
60:44But 51 wide receivers have 20 or more targets.
60:47Devon Vele is 45th out of 51 in yards per route run.
60:51He's 39th in yards per catch. He's 36th in yards per target.
60:54That's not good. But he's 47th out of 51 wide receivers in target per route run rate.
61:00They just don't throw to him a lot. They just don't throw to Juwan Johnson that much.
61:05Those guys are only succeeding because they're throwing more than any team in football.
61:09If you get a game with 35 pass attempts for Tyler Shuck and the rates, the target per route run rates basically
61:16stay the same, you're going to be in trouble with Vele and Juwan Johnson.
61:20I just want to point that out. They're going to have to score probably.
61:25But I don't think that'll be this week. Yeah, you never know, right?
61:29Like we didn't think Jordan. Of course, you never know last week.
61:33Right. I mean, that's why they play the games.
61:35But there is a game in Kellen Moore's history where he went up against Flores when he was with the Vikings.
61:42And granted, different team, different quarterback, better quarterback. He had Justin Herbert.
61:46I think that's a better quarterback. Dialed up almost 50 pass plays in that game.
61:50And it was all about getting the ball out fast.
61:54And they outscored Minnesota to win that game. And I wonder if Kellen Moore is just going to settle on, OK, I don't have a run game.
62:02I know that I need Tyler Shuck to get the ball quick.
62:06Adam, you talked about that Shuck's doing a lot of that already.
62:09Maybe that's their game plan. And then so volume is king.
62:13It has been king. And I think you can buy into it for everybody in the New Orleans passing game.
62:19I'm fascinated to see what's going to happen when Tyson returns to everybody, but mostly Vele and Juwan Johnson.
62:25Because they've been so serviceable. And it's hard to envision that continuing.
62:29I would put it at like a 20% chance.
62:32But I really think Jordan Tyson could be not exactly a league winner, but close.
62:36I just think he's so much more talented than the other guys other than Olave.
62:41And the volume. Yeah. Yeah, right. Exactly. And combine that with the volume.
62:45And I think Tyler Shuck, I had doubts about how good he was.
62:49I think those doubts for me are gone. I think he's a good player.
62:53It could be really exciting for Jordan Tyson, who's still a few weeks away.
62:58But definitely someone you want to stash if you can.
63:01All right. My last question here, and then we'll do something.
63:04Because Devon Vele is like 28th, 29th. Camara is right around the same range, actually, at running back.
63:10Weird kind of note that, I don't know. For whatever reason, in his history, Tyler Shuck, when he's blitzed, he has an 8% running back target rate.
63:18I don't know what that's all about. But you would think, like, against this team, like, this is what the Bears did.
63:25Dump it off to DeAndre Swift, and he had a big game as a receiver.
63:30Maybe we can get five or more catches from Camara, hopefully, and give him a little bit of a floor.
63:36But my last question is, when you put Jawan Johnson, Tyler Shuck, Devon Vele, and Camara in your lineup, are you concerned
63:43about the Saints scoring, like, seven points in this game and just being horrible?
63:47What is your level of concern about the Saints being complete duds?
63:51Hi. Hi. How are you? No, I'm not. It's not high for me.
63:55It would be at most medium. Camara or Will Shipley in the chat?
63:59Camara. I think I have Shipley higher. Vele or Diggs?
64:02Diggs. Stefan, if he plays. Vele or Roman Wilson?
64:05Struggling with that one, but right now, Vele. I believe I have Roman Wilson higher.
64:10Let's see. Do I have anything else from this game?
64:13I do not. I have Vele higher. A lot of Tyson stuff in here.
64:17Vele. Wow, really? Not a lot of questions from this game.
64:21All right, I guess I have to do it myself.
64:24Vele or Ali Gordon? PPR. Vele. Vele. I think I like Vele better.
64:28Vele or RJ Harvey? I'll take Vele, so. And what's our next game here?
64:32We're done with this game. Start the Vikings DST.
64:35You guys don't have them as a super high-end starter, but they're start worthy.
64:39Oh, here's the big one. Giants at the Commanders.
64:42How are we feeling? Division-winning Giants. Listen, man. If the Eagles lose at 9.30 a.m.
64:47and then the Giants win at 1 p.m., wow.
64:50That's, I think, a two-game lead in the division.
64:53Dave, do you really have... It's over at that point.
64:56Yeah, it's completely over. Do you have Jameis Winston ninth?
64:59I do. You know where he has him? He's in that group for me.
65:03I know. He doesn't even have him right. Not in the top 24.
65:07Yeah. No, I get it. And the downside for Jameis Winston is 27 pass attempts, no touchdowns, three interceptions.
65:13The upside for him is almost a little bit better than what he gave you last week.
65:18I think the Commanders run defenses for real. I think their pass rush is a paper tiger, and I think their secondary is terrible.
65:26And so last week proved that if Jameis has a little time, he can still make reads and get the ball where he needs it to go.
65:34I thought both of his touchdowns were actually good, and the timing was a little bit sharper.
65:40The release was a little bitty bit sharper. There are still issues, obviously, with him where you look at him and you
65:47go, this guy is not even like a top 25 quarterback in the league.
65:51But if the Giants can't run the ball, it's going to fall on Winston's shoulders.
65:56And I think the case can be made that he can get you to, let's call it 250 yards and a couple of touchdowns.
66:03And that's not amazing for fantasy, but we know that if the Commanders can play back and Jaden Daniels brings it, then
66:10he's going to have to do more than that.
66:13So I like him. I probably have him ranked too high, and it's somebody I need to lower.
66:18But I think he could still be a top 12 QB.
66:22Okay. I love the bold take there. Jamie, do we like any?
66:25Well, I mean, there's one other thing. Every quarterback to face Washington, except for Daniel Jones, who's a mess, had at least 30 fantasy points this season.
66:34Yeah. Without a rushing touchdown. So I can't ignore that.
66:37I can't turn my nose up at that, even though Jameis is not – he doesn't look good.
66:43But the opportunity in the matchup is good. I just turned my nose up at the camera.
66:48I really hope there was nothing up there. Jamie, can we trust – I'm not – Oh, I'm sorry.
66:54Of the running backs in this game, any of the running backs in this game, it's unfortunate that the commanders actually have a very good run defense.
67:02The Giants have a terrible run defense. You wish the matchups were switched.
67:06But can you trust any running back in this game?
67:09I'm starting Scadaboo. You know, the fact that they've been using him in passing out situations is good.
67:15So hopefully that continues. But it's not with the expectation of a huge game.
67:19You know, so that being said, you know, Scadaboo is not Jonathan Taylor.
67:24Taylor still had, you know, typical Jonathan Taylor production.
67:26It was touchdowns. So hopefully that's what happens with Scadaboo this week.
67:30But, you know, he's in that low-end number two running back range.
67:34The commanders is the backfield you've got to keep an eye on because Ja'Cory Kraske-Kamara on the injury report.
67:40Shadwite's on the injury report. Austin Eckler, I don't think they'll give him, you know, his full workload.
67:45And part of the reason I think that they got rid of K-Tron Allen is Jeremy McNichols' practice window opened off of the Pup List.
67:53So we'll see if he's going to be somebody that they use as well.
67:58It's just, again, repetitive skill set with Ja'Cory Kraske-Kamara.
68:00It's not as fast. So what will they end up doing?
68:04I don't think McNichols plays this week. But Eckler's somebody I think is worth stashing.
68:08Because if Rashad White can't go, and Eckler has that role in the passing game, didn't really have it last week.
68:15But obviously that's his skill set. You know, is that something that they can lean on moving forward depending on what they decided to do with Rashad White?
68:24So it's just really hard to have any faith in the commanders back.
68:28But I think if they're all healthy, I would still lean toward Bill.
68:32Just, you know, this is a game that the commanders play with a lead.
68:36That would probably help him in regard to it.
68:39I think the Giants win. But I'm just saying it is a game that the commanders play.
68:44I think the commanders probably win this game. But if they're missing both Diggs and McLaurin, that would be – then I think the Giants would win.
68:53And then we're going to get a lot of questions about Antonio Williams.
68:57And he played – even with just one guy missing last week, he played a ton.
69:02They had a third-string quarterback in. Didn't have a big game, but he had a big touchdown called back.
69:08There's an opportunity. He had eight targets. What's that?
69:10Eight targets. He had eight targets. Big opportunity here, even if just one of those guys is out.
69:16I wonder if we're sleeping on Antonio Williams. Dave, what do you think?
69:20I think we are a little – well, I am a little bit.
69:24And he should be higher in my rankings. And with Jaden Daniels back, the one thing that stands out to me about
69:31Daniels from what we saw in his – whatever it was, six, seven quarters of play so far, he liked Stefan Diggs.
69:38And he was leaning on him quite a bit.
69:41But he also evolved a little bit with Antonio Williams.
69:44We saw it in week one. Antonio Williams had the touchdown.
69:47If there's no McLaurin, it's not like – it's not like Antonio Williams plays in the McLaurin role.
69:53But he clearly can see opportunities, and there are plays designed for him.
69:57So I think he should be in the number three receiver conversation in full PPR.
70:02I'd also like to comment on Scadaboo. Just one other thing that I noticed.
70:06We talked about coverages and what does it mean.
70:09And it's a small sample size. Jameis has barely played this year.
70:13But against two-high zone, the top guy in target per route run is Isaiah Likely.
70:17That's not a big surprise. He's blowing away everybody else in the Giants.
70:21Malik Nabors is next at 24%. Scadaboo is next at 22%.
70:25And Scadaboo is averaging almost two and a half yards per route run when he's facing zone and two high safeties.
70:31And that's what the commanders do a lot of.
70:34And I think that's the reason to go over the top on Scadaboo.
70:38It's not because you're hoping he scores a touchdown.
70:41It's not just because he's going to be 15 touches.
70:44It looks like Jameis looks for him and he checks down to him.
70:48And that's somebody who can get you some easy fantasy points.
70:52I love it. Good stuff. Now, Jamie, give me the rundown on the commanders wide receivers.
70:57We talked about Williams, but where are you going to rank Diggs?
71:00Where are you going to rank McLaurin if they play?
71:03If one plays, it's a tough moving pieces here.
71:06I'm very skeptical McLaurin plays because after missing last week and not returning to practice, I'd be hesitant to trust him.
71:13So if Diggs plays and McLaurin plays, I will rank Diggs ahead of McLaurin for this week.
71:18If one of them is out, I'm assuming McLaurin is out, and Diggs plays, he is a number two wide receiver.
71:25And Antonio Williams is a mid-tier number three receiver.
71:27If they are both out, Antonio Williams is a high-end number three receiver, similar in the same range of what the Bills
71:34guys would be if DJ Moore is out, behind Dante Myers.
71:38If the Bengals guys are out, meaning both, and in the same sort of range of Devon Vele and Roman Wilson and those guys.
71:45So I think you've got to give him, like right now, if you're listening to the show, go pick him up because
71:52you can always drop him if you have to for hopefully somebody else that has some long-term value.
71:58But short-term, this may be a great opportunity to trust Antonio Williams because it could be the number one receiver for the
72:05Commanders in a positive matchup against the Giants. Starts likely.
72:08He's fifth for these guys. Start neighbors. Jayden Daniels is ninth or tenth for these guys.
72:13We talked about him in one question for each game.
72:16We have a lot of questions from the chat about this game.
72:20I went up against Bucky Irving. Should I play likely or Kraft in half PPR?
72:24Likely. So likely. Likely, Loveland or Dalton Schultz in non-PPR?
72:27Likely. Agreed. Agreed. Daniels or Shuck? Daniels. Agreed. Oh, no.
72:30I might go Shuck over Daniels. Amani Toomer or Santana Moss?
72:34Santana. Yeah, Moss. Daniels in the rain. Yeah, it might rain in this game.
72:38Daniels in the rain or Jalen Hurts versus the Jags?
72:41Daniels. What other quarterbacks are on waivers? Well, are we going to drop Hurts?
72:46I mean, I think you could. Maybe. Bill or Brian Robinson Jr.?
72:49I think I have it right now, Bill, but I'm going to change that and go Robinson.
72:55I have Bill higher. Jaden Daniels or Jacoby Brissett?
72:58Brissett. Brissett. Okay. Start one. Dobbs. Oh, no. Start two.
73:01Dobbs, Shakir, Antonio Williams, Loveland, and Higby. If the top two commanders receivers are out, I'd go Williams.
73:06If Moore is out, I'd probably go Shakir. Next.
73:09Ask us Sunday. Yeah, that's a good Sunday question.
73:12Dobbs is in a good spot, and Loveland's in a good spot.
73:16All right, last one. Ja'Cory Crosby Merritt, Marvin Harrison Jr., or Adams Nosehairs?
73:20What's the target for Ruff? You trim your nose hairs.
73:23Don't do nose hairs. I don't have to trim my nose hairs.
73:27They're tucked down. Yeah, they know where to be.
73:29All right, next game. Next game is Buffalo with the Rams.
73:33It doesn't count. You don't have to take credit for it.
73:36Josh Allen or Matthew Stafford? Allen, but it's close.
73:39It's almost Allen by default because you know that he can put on the Superman cape and run for a bunch of touchdowns.
73:46I agree it's close. Yeah, I'll play a different song for this game just for fun.
73:51Start James Cook. Start Kyron Williams. One thing I'll just point out about James Cook, if you're looking to trade or whatever.
73:58He started the season with seven targets in his first two games.
74:02Since Ty Johnson has come back, Johnson's eaten into some of the routes run on first and second down.
74:08So the targets have been down for James Cook, but he's the man.
74:12We've talked so much about the Bills wide receivers throughout the week, and we're not expecting DJ more at this point.
74:18I don't even know what else to say. Please go to one question for each game for that.
74:24Dave is higher on Kincaid than Jamie. I don't know if I should be.
74:28Let me say this about Kincaid real quick. He has five targets in his last two games.
74:34This is the fourth time. Combined. Combined. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
74:37Fourth time in his career he's had consecutive games with fewer than five targets.
74:41He usually bounces back. They usually don't go away from him three straight games.
74:46So I feel like you have to sort of not look at the recent trends and just think overall about who Dalton
74:53Kincaid is and how much they might need him in this game.
74:56Right. Yeah. And so the question is, is his route share dropping because he's not healthy or he's falling out of favor in the Buffalo offense?
75:05It was only one game. It was only one game where the route rate goes.
75:09I know, but people have pointed to that as a reason why you should get away from Kincaid because now it's looking like 2025 Kincaid.
75:17I thought what the Patriots did to take him away was actually brilliant, and I'm a little nervous they do the same thing to Bowers.
75:25And they're just finding defenders to just get hands on Kincaid.
75:28That's what they did last week. They got hands on Kincaid as soon as they could.
75:33He would run. He would face one defender. He'd be stopped.
75:37He'd run. Another defender would get hands on. It was like he was double teamed and taken out from Josh Allen's read.
75:43And I think the Bills reacted by saying, all right, let's just get him out of there so that they can't do that.
75:51And they played the least amount of multiple tight end formations that they had all year last week against the Patriots.
75:57I don't know if the Rams are going to do the exact same thing, but what I will tell you is that
76:04the Rams, it's not just the 85 total yards that they've allowed to tight ends.
76:09And granted, they haven't played a ton of great tight ends, and the circumstances are what they are.
76:14Teams have thrown to their tight ends 29 times against the Rams this year, and only 12 of those 29 passes have been caught.
76:22They have been outstanding covering tight ends. And that might be what sends him tumbling down in my rankings.
76:28Because if the Rams are already proving that, yeah, against average to above average tight ends, they're able to really limit their
76:35effectiveness, I don't think we can look at Dalton Kincaid and say, yeah, he's a superstar tight end.
76:40I think you've got to be significantly nervous about him.
76:43I have him ranked too high. I'm going to move him down.
76:47Yeah, and the last thing on him is if you look at Kincaid's season, first of all, he doesn't run that many routes to begin with.
76:55It's 68% basically is the max. That's fine. It's not really good enough for consistency, I think, unless you're just the best tight end in the world.
77:04And week one against Houston, he had a big game.
77:07He only had six targets. He had like a bunch of big plays.
77:11Week two was against Detroit. So maybe we just overrated him a little bit.
77:15The Detroit bump. Yeah, the Detroit bump for sure.
77:18Week one was encouraging, but it was just like all these big plays.
77:22All right, Shakir and Coleman we'll get to in a minute.
77:25As far as the Rams go, Stafford we love this week.
77:29He's top three. Kyron, yes. Coram, no. I didn't know until I watched the tape.
77:34Devontae Adams had officially two drops, in my opinion, three drops last week.
77:38Two of them were big plays. One of them was a perfect throw in the end zone.
77:43So he could have had a huge game. So I assume we're just totally fine with Adams this week.
77:49Against his defense? Absolutely. Absolutely. All right, let's do it.
77:52And then Tyler Higby is top 15 or 16.
77:55If Parkinson plays, are you going to lower Higby?
77:58I think you've got to be concerned. You know, the question becomes is who do they prefer as their receiving tight end?
78:04Because you know they're going to play a lot of multiple tight end sets.
78:09And for two games, it's been Higby by circumstance.
78:12You know, one was without Puka and Parkinson got hurt and Ferguson got hurt.
78:16The next one was without both tight ends. So I would be concerned if Parkinson plays because last year in similar situation,
78:23Parkinson was the preferred receiving tight end. So it's just hard to say, like, there's safety or guaranteed production here.
78:29So, like, I have Higby as a streamer because of some injuries and whatnot.
78:33And I'm hoping that he's the guy. But it's a Monday night game.
78:38And so we may not know. You know, so you'd like to have Parkinson ruled out ahead of time just to know
78:44that the opportunity is there for Higby. And you don't have to worry about it.
78:49And somebody, you know, mentioned something in the chat earlier in regards to me saying, you know, Coleman or Shakir in regards to DJ Moore.
78:57It's really if you have DJ Moore, you're picking up these guys because you don't want to take the chance of more
79:04playing on Monday unless he's rolled out. That's why, at least for me, why I'm saying Coleman or Shakir.
79:10It's a lot like a handcuff situation. Now, if you are picking those guys up, you got to, you know, deal with the news on Sunday.
79:18And hopefully we get some clarity that did not practice Saturday for DJ Moore.
79:22Then you know that Keon Coleman or Shakir, if those are the guys you're looking at, are going to have the opportunity to start.
79:30All right. Let me see if I have any chat questions here about this game.
79:34Coleman, Valey or Dobbs? Well, you said you wanted to get into the receivers.
79:39Yeah, but we did in one question for each game.
79:42I don't want to be repetitive. Gotcha. All right.
79:45Never mind. Yeah. Coleman, Valey or Dobbs? I would go with non-PPR Dobbs.
79:49If it's non-PPR, I think I like Dobbs best too.
79:52Question here from Adam. He says, I haven't ranked Valey, Coleman, Dobbs in full PPR.
79:56Coleman or Roman Wilson? Wilson. I've got Coleman a little bit ahead of Roman.
80:01I don't know if I like that. I might go Wilson.
80:04Coleman or Shipley? Coleman if Moore's out. Agreed. Coram or Monongai?
80:08That's got to be Monongai if he plays. Coleman or Braylon Allen?
80:11Standard scoring. Allen. Braylon Allen. Coleman or Luther Burden?
80:14Burden. Burden. All right. And just to wrap it up, where do you guys have Coleman ranked?
80:20Where do you have Shakir ranked? Coleman's at 30.
80:22Shakir's like 32 or 33. I've got Coleman at 30.
80:25I'm sorry. Shakir at 30. Coleman at 31 among receivers.
80:29Okay. I think the next two games we can do pretty quickly here.
80:33Detroit at Arizona. I mean, start all your Lions except Jamison Williams is going to be, I guess, a tough call.
80:39But. You're starting him. Dude. I think so. Yeah.
80:4219th for Jamie. 13th for Dave. And then Goff is top three.
80:46Laporta is a must start. Brissette is eighth for Dave.
80:49Another former coordinator facing his former team. Yeah. Yes.
80:52Coordinator facing his former team. Yep. Good call. Brissette.
80:54Sixth for Jamie. Eighth for Dave. We're going to light up.
80:58I don't know. One spot behind Brock Purdy. And then Jeremiah Love, Tyler.
81:02Like we would still start Love over Algier, right?
81:05Yeah. Of course. Yeah. I encourage everyone to go listen to the one question for each game portion for this because we
81:12talked a lot about Jamison Williams and Jeremiah Love.
81:14Like Dave is hesitant on Jeremiah Love and Jamie's got him six or like seven or eight spots higher in the rankings, I believe.
81:22Let's see. We'll do some Jeremiah Love's. Jeremiah Love.
81:25You could potentially get a squeaky wheel game here for Jeremiah Love after what he said.
81:30It's true. Jeremiah Love or Braylon Allen? Allen. Love.
81:33Jeremiah Love or Quinchon Judkins? Judkins. Love or Ramondre?
81:35Ramondre. Love. Algier or Brian Robinson Jr.? Robinson. I'll take Algier.
81:39Algier or Camara? Camara. Algier. No, I have Camara higher.
81:42My bad. Sit Marvin Harrison? Maybe that's a Freudian slip.
81:45Are there any interest in Marvin Harrison? No. Not until he gets traded.
81:49Michael Wilson is a must start. Michael Wilson or Jamison Williams?
81:52Jamison. Michael Wilson. Okay. Trey McBride or Jacoby Brissett?
81:55Who scores more points? McBride. Number one. Potentially the number one tight end.
81:59Number one or number two versus the best matchup.
82:02We like Trey McBride this week. But again, you know, 5.5 yard.
82:06Brian Branch may play. All right. Still, we're going to fire up Trey McBride.
82:10Baltimore. Yeah. I mean, that doesn't change anything, but it does help.
82:14Should help. Baltimore and Atlanta. Is there a single tough call in this game?
82:18Assuming Tyler Huntley starts. Andrews? I love the track record of Andrews with Huntley.
82:23I don't know why. Last year, he had three catches for 34 yards in week eight, and he had four catches for
82:3028 yards in week 17 in the two starts for Tyler Huntley.
82:33I'm looking a little bit deeper than two games last year, and when Huntley was certainly in the swing of things, Andrews was his guy.
82:41This is an offense that does have a lot of tight end usage and calls for.
82:46Not all of them go to Andrews, and Andrews kind of had his get right touchdown last week.
82:52When was this? I don't love Mark Andrews, but I think that he's in the conversation of a low end tight end and full PPR.
83:00You start him over Pitts? I'd start almost anybody over Kyle Pitts.
83:03Would you start Andrews or Higby? Are your nose hairs available to play this week?
83:08I think I'll take Pitts over the nose hairs.
83:11Andrews or Higby? For now, I'd have Higby higher.
83:14I mean, you got to keep an eye. Rashad Bateman is banged up in this game, too.
83:19I think he's full practice yesterday, though. He is banged up.
83:22You're right. I'll double check. But I think the thing is, Dave, it's like, yeah, it used to be good with Huntley
83:29and Andrews, but once Dave Flowers became the target hog last year, he's the one that got all the targets.
83:35So you still, he practiced in full Bateman. And you still would start, say, Flowers, no hesitation?
83:41You have to. You can have all the hesitation you want, and there isn't a great track record with receivers with Tyler Huntley.
83:48Like I'm telling you, the career track record for Tyler Huntley is lean on the tight ends, sometimes lean on the running
83:55backs, don't take a lot of shots downfield. The stat is four of 14 games, wide receivers had 14-plus PPR points when Tyler Huntley has started.
84:03That includes a playoff game. Yeah. And it makes me, it just, it obviously dims the upside for Zay Flowers.
84:09But what are we doing if you're sitting Zay, who are you starting over Zay Flowers?
84:14Well, would you start like Michael Wilson over Zay Flowers?
84:17I would not. I would. I would not. Dave, would you start Jameson Williams over Zay Flowers?
84:23I would not. How about Emmanuel Wilson over Zay Flowers?
84:26I would not. Non-PPR, yes. Okay. And start Henry, start Bijan.
84:29We already talked about Brian Robinson Jr. Don't start Kyle Pitts, start Drake London.
84:33Last question, in a super flex league, who's the best option?
84:37Tyson Bajant or one of the quarterbacks in this game?
84:40I'd go Penix. I think I would go Penix for sure.
84:43By the way, the stat of the game was that Atlanta is home to the world's largest drive-in restaurant.
84:49It's called the Varsity. And they are fun. Varsity, yes.
84:52Oh, Varsity is great. I've never heard of it.
84:55What? Until yesterday when I was looking up fun facts about Atlanta.
84:59Oh, yeah. The Varsity is great and the chili dog will clear you out immediately.
85:04He cleared my nose hairs out. All right. Thanks for watching and listening, everybody.
85:08We will talk to you on the mailbag in a half hour on Fantasy Football Today.
85:13Good luck in week five, everyone. Podcasts. Podcasts. A mystery woman found dead in the woods, murdered, but who was she?
85:20And how did she die not once, but twice?
85:22Follow and listen to The Woman in the Woods wherever you get your podcasts.
85:27podcast. Podcasts. Thank you.