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Week 5 Start Sit Advice (Part 1) | MUST-Start Players & Big Names to AVOID (10/08 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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1 hr 28 min
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Oct 8, 2026
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Thu, October 8, 2026
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Braelon AllenDallas GoedertMike GesickiQuinshon JudkinsRhamondre StevensonRJ HarveyRomeo DoubsWill ShipleyAaron RodgersCarnell TateChase BrownChris BellDarius CooperDeshaun Watson
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Aaron Rodgers

PositiveProjection51:31

Rodgers is a top-15 quarterback for the week, showing improved play with deep-ball aggression (averaging 10+ air yards per attempt) and benefiting from a more pass-heavy scheme under Mike McCarthy.

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Braelon Allen

PositiveUsage13:52

Heath Cummings views Allen as a must-start RB2, expecting around 20 touches against the Browns. While Cleveland is tough against the run, they have allowed 4.8 yards per carry to running backs.

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PositiveValue35:14

The source prefers Braylon Allen over Denzel Boston for weekly starting lineups. While Boston has big-play upside, his reliance on deep targets and high ADOT makes him less reliable than Allen.

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Carnell Tate

NegativeUsage36:28

Carnell Tate is a must-start as a WR2 despite the risk associated with the Texans' defensive play-caller change. He is the clear number one wide receiver for the Texans and has shown significant talent as a first-round rookie.

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Chase Brown

PositiveProjection62:42

Brown is a strong start for the upcoming matchup, as the game script is expected to favor a dominant rushing performance for him.

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Chris Bell

PositiveUsage177:05

The source confirms Chris Bell is a startable waiver wire wide receiver, noting he is capable of big performances and recently had a 60-yard touchdown called back due to stepping out of bounds.

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Dallas Goedert

NegativeValue40:15

Dallas Goedert is considered a back-end starting option (ranked 13-24 range) for tight ends. While he has potential due to target share, the source suggests debating him against other options like Colston Loveland, Tyler Higbee, or Jake Ferguson.

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NegativeInjury44:30

Goedert's availability is uncertain for the week; he is a potential start if he logs a full practice by Friday, but there is skepticism regarding whether he will actually play.

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Darius Cooper

PositiveUsage48:43

Cooper is emerging as a viable number three receiver option, having earned seven targets last week and three touchdowns over his last three games; he is a trusted target for Jalen Hurts.

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Deshaun Watson

PositiveProjection190:05

Deshaun Watson is highlighted as a high-end QB2 and a favorite streamer. His fantasy value is bolstered by his rushing production, ranking second among QBs, and the effectiveness of the Todd Monken system.

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Drake Maye

PositiveProjection178:55

The source has become more optimistic about Drake Maye, ranking him as a top-10 quarterback for the week. His fantasy value is tied to his rushing production, and he is expected to live in the 20-25 point range.

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Emanuel Wilson

PositiveUsage10:00

Jamie Eisenberg projects Wilson to receive the majority of touches against San Francisco, noting that in his 10 career games with at least 10 carries, he has scored 11.7 PPR points or more in seven of them.

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Jayden Daniels

PositiveProjection12:01

Heath Cummings considers Daniels a must-start top-12 quarterback whenever active, noting his dual-threat ability as both the team's best passer and rusher against a Giants defense that lacks talent.

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Jaylen Waddle

NegativeUsage198:52

Jalen Waddle is a low-end WR2 who lacks consistency. The source notes concerns about his lack of red zone, green zone, and end zone targets, and his usage patterns appear random and unpredictable.

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Jaylen Warren

PositiveUsage54:47

Warren remains a must-start running back despite the potential return of Rico Dowdle; his recent full-workload performance has been excellent, and he is expected to maintain a significant role.

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Josh Downs

PositiveValue34:26

The source ranks Josh Downs ahead of DK Metcalf for this week, noting that both players have been consistent in target volume but inconsistent in fantasy production. The preference for Downs over Metcalf is contingent on Keenan Allen's status; if Allen is out, Downs is the preferred start.

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Khalil Shakir

NegativeMatchup20:14

Heath Cummings expresses concern about starting Shakir against the Rams, noting that the Rams defense has not allowed any wide receiver to exceed 50 receiving yards in a game this season.

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Kirk Cousins

PositiveProjection186:48

Kirk Cousins has been performing well, exceeding expectations since Week 1. His success is attributed to an improved offensive line and the Kubiak system, making him a reliable fantasy starter.

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Ladd McConkey

NegativeProjection204:07

If Ladd McConkey plays, he is a borderline top-24 wide receiver. However, his health is a concern, and he should be viewed as a boom-bust WR3.

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Malik Willis

NegativeProjection176:50

Despite a poor performance against Minnesota, Malik Willis retains some fantasy potential due to his rushing ability, which could help managers at some point this season.

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Matthew Stafford

PositiveProjection8:31

Jamie Eisenberg highlights Stafford as a start of the week, noting his high volume with over 50 pass attempts in each of his last two games and a favorable matchup against a forgiving Bills defense.

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Mike Gesicki

NegativeUsage59:58

Gesicki is a risky start; his target-per-route-run rate spikes when Tee Higgins is off the field, but he remains touchdown-dependent with low overall target volume.

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PositiveValue177:20

The source recommends starting Mike Gesicki over Dallas Goedert and Juwan Johnson, provided that the team's wide receivers are out.

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Ollie Gordon II

NegativeUsage28:54

Jamie Eisenberg considers Gordon a good flex play but expresses concern about his matchup against a strong Bengals run defense, noting that the team may increase Jalen Wright's workload.

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Parker Washington

PositiveValue43:05

Washington is the only wide receiver on his team worth starting, consistently preferred over options like Josh Downs, Bucky Irving, and Jacoby Myers in start/sit decisions.

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Quinshon Judkins

PositiveUsage10:43

Jamie Eisenberg notes Judkins has seen a boost in production due to his role in the passing game, recording at least five receptions in two of his last three games.

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NegativeProjection190:32

Quinshon Judkins is viewed as a low-end RB2. While he looked faster and better last week, his production remains inconsistent, and he has only one game with more than 53 rushing yards.

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Rhamondre Stevenson

NegativeUsage22:02

Heath Cummings views Stevenson as a risky flex play rather than an RB2, citing health concerns, lower rush attempt volume compared to Trevion Henderson, and the risk of losing playing time if he fumbles.

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NegativeValue183:50

If Rhamondre Stevenson plays, he is considered a top-15 to top-20 running back. If he is active, other Patriots running backs become much less appealing for fantasy lineups.

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RJ Harvey

PositiveProjection15:11

Heath Cummings ranks Harvey as a top-20 running back in full PPR formats, projecting 6-7 targets due to the team's inability to run the ball effectively and Bo Nix's short-yardage passing tendencies.

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RJ Harvey has seen career-high target shares over the last two weeks. While the source warns not to expect 17 targets every game, his involvement in the passing game makes him a player worth looking at.

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Roman Wilson

PositiveUsage56:29

Wilson has established himself as the team's number two receiver with consistent target volume (six per game) and big-play ability, making him a solid low-end WR3 or bench depth piece.

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Romeo Doubs

NegativeUsage37:00

Romeo Dobbs is not a universal must-start, but is viable in three-receiver leagues. He has shown inconsistency with two very good games and two mediocre ones, though he is coming off a nine-target performance.

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PositiveUsage184:17

The source is encouraged by Romeo Doubs, noting that the absence of Mac Hollins is significant. Doubs had nine targets last week and caught two touchdowns, and his high ADOT (16.1) pairs well with Drake Maye.

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Tank Bigsby

PositiveBreakout41:51

Tank Bigsby is an RB2 who should be started, though he faces competition for touches. The source believes he has top-10 fantasy running back potential if the Jaguars increase his opportunities, specifically in the passing game and at the goal line.

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Trevor Lawrence

PositiveProjection33:37

The source views Trevor Lawrence as a top-10, potentially top-5 quarterback for this week against the Eagles. Despite the Jaguars' low pace and low play volume, Lawrence is having a phenomenal year with a 69% completion rate and 8.1 yards per attempt, both career highs, while his off-target rate has significantly improved.

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Will Shipley

PositiveUsage32:15

Jamie Eisenberg identifies Shipley as a potential pass-catching asset against the Jaguars, noting that Jacksonville consistently allows at least five catches to running backs, making Shipley a viable play in that specific role.

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PositiveUsage38:44

Will Shipley is viewed as a high-end flex option for the Eagles, projected for around 13 carries and the majority of the team's running back targets. He is preferred over Damian Pierce, who is only an add in very deep leagues.

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2:32So here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:36Okay, week five. Let's dance. Let's do it. I have a feeling I might hate fantasy week five when it's all said and done.
2:43I'll tell you why in a little bit. Welcome to the show, everybody.
2:48Whether you love it or hate it, we're still going to set our lineups and have fun and hopefully win our leagues.
2:55I'm Adam Azer with Jamie Eisenberg. Jamie, which game are you most excited about this week?
3:00I was torn when you asked me this 30 seconds ago between the Lions and the Cardinals and the Bills and the Rams.
3:07And I think I'm going to go Lions-Cardinals. I think it's going to be a lot of fun, a lot of points.
3:15It's the fantasy bonanza that we crave. We're very thankful for Lions-Cardinals this week.
3:19Heath, which game would you make your worst enemy watch?
3:22There are so many this week. Really a lot of great options.
3:26But I will go with Giants-Commanders. Are you trying to tell me something?
3:30Because I will be watching that game. On paper, it is looking like, just to me, in my opinion, such a bad week for quarterbacks.
3:39If you go through the quarterbacks and where they currently rank, not the weekly rankings, but where they rank in fantasy points this season.
3:46Josh Allen is QB1. He faces the Rams. They allow the fewest yards per attempt in the NFL.
3:52QB2 is Brock Purdy. The last two times he faced the Seahawks, he scored a combined 10.5 fantasy points.
3:58QB3 and QB6 are on a bye this week.
4:01QB4 is Jared Goff. The Cardinals-Lions game is our savior this week.
4:05That is great. He gets Minnesota, hopefully with Chris Olave.
4:08Joe Burrow's top two wide receivers missed practice yesterday.
4:11Lamar Jackson is unlikely to play. So we might have a low-scoring week here.
4:16But you know what? I thought T. Higgins was at practice.
4:19He was not. They said he was going to be at practice, but then he was a DNP.
4:25There were two misleading reports yesterday. One positive, one negative.
4:28The Ramondre Stevenson report by Mike Rabel said he wasn't going to practice.
4:33Then he was limited. The T. Higgins report said that he was going to practice.
4:37And then he didn't practice at all. Yeah, there were a few others, I think, where coaches said something and it didn't end up happening.
4:46I can't remember what they were, but those were the big ones.
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5:02Get styled today at stitchfix.com slash football. Jamie, three players you love are Matthew Stafford Monday night, Emmanuel Wilson against San Francisco, and Quinshawn Judkins at the Jets.
5:11So for Stafford, he's the start of the week.
5:14Excited to see him take on this Bills defense, which we know has been bad.
5:19And, you know, I think it kind of shows in our rankings how excited we are about Stafford for this week.
5:26So hopefully he delivers. He's had two really good games, two really crappy ones.
5:31But the last two games, he's been over 50 pass attempts.
5:34We know this Bills defense has been very forgiving to a few quarterbacks.
5:38They make Drake May look much better last week with giving him, allowing him to go over 30 fantasy points.
5:45He did that with 54 yards rushing, so take that into account.
5:49But this defense is not great, and Stafford should have another strong performance.
5:53The best game so far this season, his only true home game, was when he took on the Giants in week two.
6:00For Emmanuel Wilson, I think we're going to get another week of every touch going his direction, the majority of every touch going his direction.
6:08He's now played 10 games in his career with at least 10 carries, and he's scored 11.7 PPR points or more in seven of them.
6:16So I think that's kind of the floor you should be looking at here.
6:21San Francisco's run defense has kind of been all over the place, struggling at times and looking a little bit better at others.
6:28But there have been four running backs that have scored at least 12.4 PPR points against them so far this season.
6:35And I think Emmanuel Wilson is going to be a very good number two running back, potentially once again as a number one guy.
6:43And Quinshawn Duckins, I hope his role in the pass game continues.
6:47It's two of the last three games he's had at least five receptions.
6:51So that's been, I think, a big boost to his production.
6:54Scored his first touchdown last week. He's not the same guy as Kyle Monongai or Jameer Gibbs, but those two running backs
7:01have combined for 69 PPR points in the last two games against this Jets defense.
7:06So Judkins has an opportunity here to be a very good number two running back as well.
7:12You like Judkins or Wilson better? I like Wilson better.
7:15Heath, you like Stafford this week? He's number one.
7:18Excellent. Let's go. Heath, three players you love this week.
7:21Jaden Daniels against the Giants. Braylon Allen against Cleveland.
7:24And R.J. Harvey at the Chargers. What about the fact that Diggs and McLaurin both mispracticed yesterday?
7:30It's Wednesday. What's over under eight and a half Wednesday practices for Stefan Diggs and Terry McLaurin rest of season?
7:36They're wide receivers in their 30s with all types of health concerns.
7:40As long as one of them is playing, I think, listen, hopefully he can stay healthy.
7:45But I liked Jaden Daniels' answer. They said, so how much do you have to protect the elbow if you're running and
7:52it's the third down is four yards away? And he said, is it the fourth quarter?
7:57So I think he's still going to run a lot.
8:01I think when Jaden Daniels is active, you just start him.
8:04We all have him as a top 12 quarterback.
8:07I just like him the most. The Giants defense did some good things in the second half last week.
8:13I don't think this is actually a very talented unit right now, so I don't think they're going to provide much resistance.
8:20And the Commanders don't have a whole lot of a run game.
8:24Jaden Daniels might be their best passer and their best rusher.
8:28Jaden made reference to Emmanuel Wilson getting all of the Seahawks touches.
8:32Braylon Allen's literally gotten all of the Jets running back touches since Brees Hall got hurt.
8:37It is not a great matchup against the Browns, but they do have a higher implied point total this week than they did last week.
8:45It was 19 and a half last week. It's 21 this week.
8:49They're the favorites. And I expect him, if they run a normal amount of plays, they were averaging 65 offensive plays per
8:56week through the first three weeks of the season.
8:59They ran 33 last week. That will make a big difference in whether Braylon Allen's good, but you should expect around 60.
9:06You should expect around 20 touches for him. He's a must-start RB2 for me.
9:11And then I kind of buy the R.J. Harvey.
9:14I don't think he's going to have 10 targets per week, but this team can't run the ball very well.
9:20And Bo Nix is throwing the ball about four yards per pass attempt.
9:24And R.J. Harvey is one of the best guys they have probably behind Jalen Waddell after the catch.
9:30So I still think we can really optimistically hope for six or seven targets in this game.
9:36In full PPR only, he's a top 20 running back for me.
9:39He also has the biggest gap between his full PPR and non-PPR ranking.
9:44I'm interested, though, because he has been more efficient as a rusher so far this season than Dobbins.
9:49That's probably because he's played in more passing situations and had an easier defense to run against.
9:55But I wonder if we start to see a few more carries for Harvey.
10:00We've talked a lot about how bad he was as a rusher last year, but he was also a rookie.
10:06He may have improved. He's been better this year.
10:09I also want to say with Braylon Allen, Cleveland, they're fifth best against running backs, but they're actually giving up 4.8 yards per carry to running backs.
10:18They just haven't allowed a touchdown yet. So, you know, like Bajal Tootin, Bucky Irving, Chuba Hubbard, Jalen Warren, they all ran well against Cleveland.
10:26So maybe it's not such a bad matchup for Braylon Allen, even though, again, they haven't given up a touchdown yet.
10:33But who else? Who hadn't given up a touchdown?
10:35Who did the Falcons play last week? Falcons played the Saints.
10:39Falcons hadn't given up a rushing touchdown going into last week's game.
10:43They gave up two to Alvin Kamara. So that's that.
10:46You never know. All right. The only issue I have with Heath's picks right now is that he picked a couple of rain games.
10:54We got to keep an eye on the weather this week because there's a hurricane going up the Gulf Coast and it could impact some games.
11:02There also could be rain on the East Coast.
11:05So the Giants game in Washington, the Jets game in New York.
11:09I was trying to think of where the hurricane might affect.
11:13Like Tennessee, I think. That's one of the games that Kevin was looking at.
11:17Yeah. Yeah, it may just be bad weather, but there might be like indoor stadiums there.
11:22But there could be some weather this week. We'll keep an eye on it right now.
11:28Nothing too concerning. All right. Those are the players we love.
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11:54That's stitchfix.com slash football. So it was Stafford, Emmanuel Wilson, and Judkins for Jamie.
11:58It was Jaden Daniels, Braylon Allen, and RJ Harvey for Heath.
12:02Now to the players we avoid. Ramondre Stevenson for Heath against the Raiders.
12:06Alvin Kamara against the Vikings. Khalil Shakir. That one's interesting to me.
12:10At Minnesota, at the Rams on Monday night. Go for it, Heath.
12:14Yeah. Let's start with Shakir since that was the one that you thought was interesting.
12:19I'm a little bit worried. You mentioned Josh Allen against the Rams.
12:23I'm a little bit worried about the receivers that we just picked up off the waiver wire.
12:28The Shakir and Keon Coleman, neither one, were my top two wide receivers to pick up this week.
12:34The Rams have not allowed a wide receiver to have more than 50 receiving yards in a game.
12:40It's kind of like the opposite of the Browns situation.
12:43They've given up quite a few fantasy points to wide receivers because they gave up three touchdowns to the 49ers wide receivers in week one.
12:51I think they gave up two touchdowns to Darius Cooper last week.
12:55But they have shut receivers down in terms of yardage.
12:58So I would rather, if Jamar Chase is out, we're expecting Tee Higgins to play right now.
13:04But if both are out, for sure. But if Chase is out, I'd rather start Myers for the Bengals.
13:10I'd still rather start my guy, Malik Washington. If you have to start him as a flex, or if you're just, I
13:17know a lot of people are desperate. You don't have to run away from him.
13:22But Ramondre, it just feels too risky to me for what the upside is.
13:26He's still getting fewer rush attempts per game than Travion Henderson.
13:30He's not 100% healthy right now. He has probably the biggest, if the ball gets knocked out of his hand, he doesn't
13:37get to play for a while risk. And so we're kind of counting on him having a really good day receiving.
13:44I think he's more of a flex than an RB2.
13:47And it was a great first game for Alvin Kamara without, it was a second without HN.
13:53I don't really buy it. Yeah, and Jamie and Dave are right there with you on Kamara.
13:58You all have him 27th to 29th. So does Sportsline.
14:01But Stevenson, if we go back to the Stevenson graphic and look at the rankings there, Jamie, you have him 19th.
14:08Dave, 17th. Heath, 27th. So Jamie, why the optimism for Ramondre Stevenson against the Raiders?
14:13I mean, it's really just about the touchdown and catch potential that he's shown.
14:18And so I'm hopeful more so than anything else that the Patriots offense got back on track a little bit last week.
14:25I think this is a tougher defense that they're playing.
14:28So there's not a lot of running backs that I love, to be honest with you.
14:33And I probably should put Braylon Allen ahead of him when I saw that he was 20th and that Ramondre's 19th.
14:40So if I had that decision, that's one that I would change is Braylon over Ramondre.
14:45So it's not a slam dunk. And to be honest, I wouldn't even say it's a guarantee that he plays.
14:52You know, I know that he got in the limited practice yesterday, which is a positive sign.
14:57But it didn't sound very optimistic from what the beat writers were saying yesterday.
15:02So we'll see what's going on there in full.
15:04I would love to see a couple of Trevion games.
15:08Not that I have a lot of stock in either of these two running backs.
15:13I'm going to have, you know, maybe two teams of Ramondre, two teams of Trevion.
15:17So I'm going to be happy in one sense and disappointed in another.
15:22But I think it'd be fun to just see what Trevion could do.
15:26You know, as we saw last year, he was so amazing.
15:29I averaged 24 PPR points per game somewhere in that neighborhood.
15:33And the three games that Ramondre missed and two of those games were over 28 points.
15:38So let us sit for a game. Yeah, pretty good.
15:4112.7 points, 28 points and 32.3 fantasy points for in PPR for Trevion Henderson in those three games.
15:47All right. Back to the players to avoid. Jamie's got Tyler Shuck against Minnesota.
15:52Oh, man. Ollie Gordon against the Bengals and all of the Eagles in London against the Jaguars.
15:57Yeah, Shuck is not necessarily like a must-sit guy.
16:00I do have him ranked 12th, so he's still in the top 12.
16:04Looks like Heath agrees with me. Minnesota is just so dominant at pressuring the quarterback.
16:09And we saw what it looked like for Shuck against Atlanta.
16:13Like, he was running for his life. I know he was only sacked twice, but he was just hit over and over and over again.
16:21And so I think you just got to put it in perspective.
16:25Like, this is just not going to most likely be a great week for Tyler Shuck.
16:30So I'm not necessarily running to the waiver wire to replace him.
16:34The only guy that I would start over him that we weren't considering as a starter prior to this week, at least
16:41in the majority of leagues, would be Jacoby Brissett because I love his matchup against Detroit.
16:46But, Shuck, if you can find a replacement for him, I think it's the right – if you can find Brissett on
16:53waivers, that's the guy that I would start over him.
16:56But the volume should still be there for him.
16:59Leads the NFL in pass attempts with 180. And so hopefully he can find a way into a little bit better production
17:07than the 17 points he gave you last week, as Adam alluded to, I think, on Wednesday's show.
17:12So if one of those two short yard touchdowns from Kamara goes to Shuck, it's a much better stat line.
17:19And you feel a little bit better just about the way that he came out of that game.
17:25But if Olave sits for whatever reason, then you're going to see Shuck.
17:29I'm sure Heath will be in agreement, like, just plummeting down the rankings there at quarterback.
17:34In the case of Ollie Gordon, look, it was great.
17:37You got rewarded with the fab that you spent on him.
17:41And I hope that he has another solid performance.
17:44It was nine carries. He broke a long run, got a touchdown against a team that doesn't typically give up touchdowns.
17:51And now he's facing another one. The Bengals have only allowed two touchdowns to running back so far this season.
17:57One was last week with Chris Rodriguez. So it sounds like Ollie's going to remain in the lead role.
18:03It also sounds like, according to Halfley, like they're going to give a little bit more work to Jalen Wright.
18:10Also is coming back from the foot injury. So we'll see how just this split goes.
18:15I think he's a good flex. I hope he has another strong game.
18:19It would be amazing that Ollie Gordon ends up with better production per game than Devon Achan.
18:25But that's the case so far. The two games that he's played the majority of snaps, he's been the best Dolphins running back so far this season.
18:33But I'm just being a little bit – I'm just a little concerned taking on the Bengals with – I think their run defense is still very good.
18:42I know they've been a production to running backs fantasy-wise.
18:46It just hasn't been in the way I think that Ollie Gordon's going to get there without scoring a touchdown.
18:52And then the third guy, I forgot already who it is.
18:56It's the Eagles. Oh, these Eagles, yeah. If Dallas Goddard plays because he was limited yesterday, would you change your opinion?
19:02No. No. I'd be a little concerned that he's going to be on a snap count.
19:08Look, they lost two offensive linemen this week. Cam Juergens I don't think was guaranteed to play, but they trade Juergens to Baltimore.
19:15Lane Johnson retires. No Saquon Barkley. No Tank Bigsby.
19:18Most likely no Devontae Smith. Jalen Hurst threw for 93 yards last week, and they're playing the Jaguars, who has a defense
19:25right now that looks to be one of the more dominant ones in the league.
19:30So I just don't think this is a good opportunity to play the Eagles unless you're stuck.
19:35Like, I'm stuck in one league. I had to overpay for Will Shipley.
19:40I hate it. I hope he has a strong performance, at least gives you something in the neighborhood of a top 30 running back this week.
19:48But I just have no confidence in the Eagles offense right now.
19:52I don't know how anybody can. I think Will Shipley might be my favorite Eagles player this weekend, and it's not because of the running.
20:00I do think he's going to have to share early downs.
20:04But every single week, the Jags have given up at least five catches to a running back.
20:09Last week, it was 11 to Chase Brown, and I think Will Shipley will be the pass-catching back.
20:15I wish that was something that Jalen Hurst did with some success, though.
20:19That's the problem. We're set up here for a game that should be a pass-catching running back to have a friendly performance
20:26here because of the situation, the opponent, and everything that goes into it.
20:30I hope that's something Sean Mannion is like, we have to do this.
20:35Let's do this. Let's work on this. Let's keep it going.
20:38So there'll be some receiver that has a good performance.
20:41My guess is you get better showing from Wicks.
20:44Could be a touchdown from Cooper. If Goddard plays, he's definitely in the conversation.
20:49There's just so many good streaming tight ends this week that why would you risk it with playing Goddard less than 100%?
20:56Well, because Devontae Smith's not playing. I mean, if he were 100%, what a great opportunity this would be.
21:02And I don't know how injured he is. I mean, I don't know that he's going to be on a snap count.
21:09What if he gets in a full practice on Friday or something like that?
21:14I mean, it's a great opportunity. There is one thing the Jaguars have struggled with, and it's been number one wide receivers.
21:21We'll talk about that game. It's the first game we're previewing.
21:25We'll talk about it pretty soon. We can make the case for Wicks, but it could be Darius Cooper as the number one receiver.
21:32It could be Mekhi Lemon. That's the problem. Being seven-and-a-half-point underdogs is crazy.
21:36Is it? No, I mean, just to see the Eagles as seven-and-a-half-point underdogs is crazy.
21:41I get this threat. I mean, they kind of, I don't think officially, but it felt like they waved the white flag yesterday with the trade.
21:50I mean, maybe. Yeah, I guess Juergens was playing guard because Dickerson was out, and he wasn't doing very well at guard.
21:57They liked their center, apparently. They got a second-round pick and a fifth-round pick out of it, I think.
22:03But yeah, it's concerning. I think a lot of teams could be touchdown underdogs if they didn't have three of their five starters at the offensive line.
22:12Their number one wide receiver, their number one running back, or their number one tight end.
22:17I know. I'm not saying it's the wrong spread.
22:20It's just you don't see the Eagles' seven-and-a-half-point underdog area.
22:23And look, to be fair for them, they did get Vaughn back at practice.
22:28They did get Quinion Mitchell back at practice. You know, those were two guys that they missed last week.
22:34And Mitchell, who knows if you—I'm sorry, Mitchell got hurt last week.
22:38But there was some thought that he wasn't going to play.
22:41So that's a positive for their defense. Huge. Yep.
22:44All right, we got more injuries for you in a minute.
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27:06Okay, injuries, news, and notes. Lamar Jackson may not play.
27:09That's a Sunday night game. Jaden Daniels is expected to play.
27:13Running back news. Ramondre Stevenson was limited. He has a chance to play this week, but we're not super optimistic right now.
27:20Sha'Kory Krosky-Meritt and Rashad White were both limited. Brees Hall still week to week.
27:24Rico Dowdle was limited. That's a bummer if you have Jalen Warren.
27:28Saquon Barkley mispracticed, and they elevated Damian Pierce, the Eagles did.
27:32Who leads the team in carries this week? Shipley.
27:35Yeah, but it's not a big gap. Zach Charbonnet was limited, but we've already been told he won't play this week.
27:42And George Helani was limited. Chris Brooks mispracticed. And, you know, we got five catches, I think, for Marshawn Lloyd last week, so maybe it shouldn't be overlooked.
27:51We had Caleb Johnson have a decent game before he fumbled.
27:54Tony Pollard mispracticed, but he's fine, I think. Kyle Monongai and DeAndre Swift both mispracticed.
27:59Are you guys concerned about either Monongai or Swift missing this game?
28:03Not yet. So Ben Johnson talked a lot about his running backs yesterday.
28:07And he said, talked in length about DeAndre's fumbling and how he has to fix that.
28:12But he said, in regards to Monongai, he's not, I'm going to paraphrase, he's not concerned about the thumb, but more just
28:20giving him rest from general soreness after all the work that he had.
28:24So it sounds like both should be fine. But obviously, if one misses, the other one becomes more than just a must-start
28:31guy, like top 10 potential for that particular running back.
28:34Kamara mispracticed. You know, remember, he got hurt during the game and then he came back in, so probably okay.
28:41And Jeremiah Love was limited, but they've said that he should be fine for this week, Jeremiah Love.
28:46Now to the wide receivers. Jordan Addison has minor hamstring soreness.
28:50He should be fine. And Justin Jefferson was limited, and he's planning to play, but it's not a guarantee for Justin Jefferson and the Vikings signed Odell Beckham.
28:59Jamar Chase and T. Higgins both mispracticed. Right now we're ranking T.
29:03Higgins. We're not ranking Jamar Chase. Malik Neighbors mispracticed with knee soreness.
29:07This is what we have to keep an eye on.
29:10He said he was more sore than usual. So obviously this would be terrible for Jameis Winston if you have to stream him this week at Washington.
29:19Chris Olave was given a rest day. They held a walkthrough, so Olave was listed as a non-participant.
29:25We've got to keep an eye on Chris Olave's status.
29:28Stefan Diggs and Terry McLaurin mispracticed. At least McLaurin was able to work off to the side.
29:33As he said, they're in their 50s and they're, you know, injured, so they're going to mispractice.
29:39Devontae Smith mispracticed. Jalen Naylor's in the concussion protocol.
29:42Deontay Thornton could play this week for the Raiders.
29:45Keenan Allen was limited in practice, so maybe he works his way back.
29:49Mack Hollins mispracticed. Adonai Mitchell was still week to week.
29:52Tank Dell was limited. Caleb Douglas mispracticed. Doesn't sound like he's ready yet.
29:56Zay Flowers was limited with a foot injury. Rashad Bateman has a shoulder issue.
30:01And Ladd McConkie mispracticed. Actually, did he mispractice? He did mispractice.
30:04There was another one, I believe, that was a pre-practice report that he was going to practice and then he did not.
30:12There it was. But at least there's a little optimism, I guess, about McConkie.
30:16And Quentin Johnson was limited. By the way, with Keenan Allen practicing in a limited version yesterday, would you rather have Keenan
30:23Allen or an Eagles wide receiver this week? Keenan Allen.
30:26Probably Wicks for me. Keenan Allen or Dante Myers?
30:29Myers, if any of the Bengals guys are up.
30:32Yep. Even if just one of them's out. Myers, if any of the Bengals guys are up.
30:38Okay. I'm going to read you a Dante Myers quote.
30:41It's not, it's about him. It's from Bengals.com. Zach Taylor put the 5'11", 186-pound Myers in some elite company when talking about his ability to make tacklers miss.
30:50A stat that Myers leads next-gen stats for NFL receivers with multiple catches.
30:54Quote, In terms of make-miss bursts to go get big plays, he's close to Jamar as we've probably had.
31:00Jamar's obviously top of the chain there in terms of any ball he catches, he can go to the house.
31:07And Dante, I think, is probably next in line with that ability.
31:11Pretty cool. Mason Taylor practiced in full. Heath, do you think that affects Adonai Mitchell?
31:16No, because I don't think Adonai Mitchell's going to play.
31:19It might affect Kenyon Sadiq. That guy. If Mason Taylor, I'm, I think, the high guy on Sadiq and the only one with him in the top 12.
31:28I did not have Taylor ranked, so I would lower him a little bit, but I think Sadiq would still be the guy.
31:35Isaiah likely was limited and Dallas Goddard was limited.
31:38The offensive lines that are really beat up are the Eagles, the Vikings right now with their left tackle, Christian Darasaw, and the concussion protocol.
31:46Their right tackle limited. Their right guard, I think, out.
31:50Maybe their left guard out. Atlanta's left tackle, Jace Matthews mispracticed.
31:53The Chargers are obviously a complete mess. And Chicago's offensive line right now is pretty beat up.
31:59We'll check the Thursday practice report. And the Cardinals, too.
32:02You got Paris Johnson, their left tackle, out for the season.
32:05And right guard Isaiah Adams out for the week against Detroit.
32:09There are some big defensive injuries, but we'll, I think the most important one to know, eh, I don't know if it matters for the Patriots.
32:17It does matter, I think, for Brock Bowers because I think Gonzalez would line up on Bowers.
32:23Bowers lines up out wide almost 50% of the time, which is so much more than any other tight end.
32:29Christian Gonzalez mispracticed, mispractice, and so did the other cornerback, Carlton Davis.
32:33One question for each game. Eagles are at the Jaguars.
32:37Jamie, start or sit Trevor Lawrence? I would start him.
32:40I think the concern would obviously be the lack of volume that we may see here because of what the Eagles probably fail to do.
32:48But I still think Trevor Lawrence always has the potential for a big game based on what his profile is.
32:54I'm just hoping that he has to push the tempo a little bit and play a little bit to the level that
33:01I think we need from an upper echelon quarterback.
33:04But you kind of ran down the list of players for this week and some of the games and performances and I
33:11just don't think this Eagles defense right now is playing very well.
33:15So I would trust Trevor Lawrence as a top 10, potentially top 5 quarterback.
33:20I might have him ranked a little too high.
33:23Jamie's got him fifth, Dave sixth, he's tenth for Lawrence and he is actually on paper having a phenomenal year.
33:2969% completion rate which is unheard of for him.
33:328.1 yards per attempt it's never been higher than 7.2.
33:35The air yards have basically been the same so that's not why the completion rate is better.
33:41The off target rate much lower. This is going to be the Trevor Lawrence section when we get to the game we're going to skip him.
33:49Would you start Trevor? So yeah, I just want to point that out.
33:54Like the Jaguars, they don't run plays. They are like, they've run like the third fewest plays.
33:59They're really low in pace. He hasn't thrown 30 passes yet but he is playing great.
34:04Would you start Trevor Lawrence or Tyler Shuck? Lawrence.
34:07I have Lawrence one spot higher. Brissette or Lawrence?
34:10That's when I'm probably going to switch and go Brissette.
34:13Lawrence for me. Lawrence or Purdy? Purdy. I think I have Purdy one spot higher.
34:18All right. Next game is the Colts at the Steelers.
34:21Heath, Josh Downs or DK Metcalf? That may be determined by Keenan Allen.
34:26Right now, I have Josh Downs ahead of DK Metcalf.
34:29They've kind of been similar in that they're getting we love the targets.
34:33We haven't always loved the actual fantasy production. I will take Downs over DK if Keenan Allen's out.
34:39I will take DK over Downs if Allen plays.
34:42Cincinnati's at Miami. Jamie, if one of the Bengals receivers plays, let's say Higgins plays and Chase sits, who would be the
34:49second best wide receiver in this game? Dante Myers.
34:52Over Malik Washington? Yes. Heath, you agree? No. You like Malik Washington?
34:56You know, big Malik Washington guy. No, they're like 28 and 30.
35:00So, they're very close. Okay, and that's with Higgins play.
35:03Okay. Right. If Higgins were out, where would you guys rank Dante Myers?
35:07Ahead of Downs, ahead of Metcalf, top 20 wide receiver.
35:10Probably 24-ish. Okay. Cleveland's at the Jets. Braylon Allen or Denzel Boston?
35:14Heath? Braylon Allen for sure. Like, Boston has that big playability and may even have more weekly upside, but it's very difficult
35:21to be a guy that you just want to start every week with his ADOT.
35:26You've referenced it before. Like, he's just getting a lot of stuff downfield right now.
35:31And he had a 60-yard gain on busted coverage last week.
35:35Otherwise, I think it was 60. It was a big chunk.
35:38Otherwise, it really wouldn't have been a very good game for Boston.
35:42Okay, next game is Denver at the Chargers. Jamie, what matters more when you preview and project Denver at the Chargers?
35:49The Chargers' offensive line injuries or the Broncos' cornerback injuries?
35:52The Chargers' inept everything. Yeah, their offensive line matters more.
35:55Do you think they're going to struggle in this game?
35:59Yeah, I mean, they struggled every game, so... Do you think they're going to struggle in this game?
36:04Yeah, well, you face the Broncos without Sertan and maybe without Riley Moss, but the last three times they played without Sertan.
36:11I think it was just him at four times, actually.
36:15They actually... They were great. I mean, it was three times.
36:18Yes, they were great defensively. They have a lot going for them.
36:22They have a great pass rush. Houston's... That's the key.
36:25Yeah. Houston's at Tennessee. Start or sit Carnell Tate.
36:28Heath, would you believe the Texans allow the most fantasy points to wide receivers?
36:33I would believe that. It's factually true. I am starting Carnell Tate as a number two wide receiver.
36:39It is a little bit risky, especially with the change in defensive play color, but he's been really good lately and he
36:46is the clear number one wide receiver and he was a first round rookie wide receiver that we all think is very
36:53talented and the Texans haven't been good yet, so I'm starting him.
36:57And I skipped a game. Raiders at the Patriots.
37:00Jamie is Romeo Dobbs. A must start. The Raiders have allowed the six fewest points to wide receivers, but again, this is kind of a touchdown thing.
37:08They've already allowed 70 or more yards to four receivers.
37:12Is Romeo Dobbs a must start? No, but he is.
37:15In three receiver leagues, yes. In two receiver leagues, he's in that blob of Carnell Tate and Denzel Boston and probably should
37:22still be DK Metcalf and Josh Downs and Dante Myers with or without any other guys.
37:27There's just a lot of guys that you can make cases for and against.
37:32He's had two very good games. He's had two very mediocre games in terms of Romeo Dobbs.
37:37He's coming off a nine target game where Drake may look great.
37:41It also was against Buffalo, so take that into account.
37:44I just think you got to be realistic with Romeo Dobbs.
37:48If you have him and you need him, start him.
37:51If you have better options, which hopefully you do, then you probably shouldn't.
37:55He's 50% started for a reason. Yeah. I changed my take on this game as I did some research and I'm excited
38:03to hear what you guys think about it. We'll get to that game.
38:07That's game number four, Raiders and Patriots. Also, funny comment from Johnny Airport.
38:11That shirt color really brings out Adam's eye. Yeah.
38:14Wearing a bright red shirt. Beautiful. Philadelphia is at Jacksonville.
38:17This game is in London and I talked about Trevor Lawrence who's twice been good for fantasy, twice been bad.
38:24Hopefully he can throw more, but we discussed him in one question for each game and Jalen Hurts is a sit.
38:30You know, things should get better for them. They threw for 93 yards last week and they ran 47 plays in 23 minutes, but yeah, he's a sit.
38:39Um, all right, Heath, what do you think about Will Shipley, Damian Pierce?
38:44I think that we'll probably see around 13 rush attempts for Shipley, probably five to eight for, uh, Damian Pierce.
38:50I think most of the targets go Shipley's way.
38:53It's just whether it's three targets from Jalen Hurts or five or six, like it probably should be in this matchup.
39:00Um, I would view Shipley as a high end flex.
39:03Pierce, you're only adding in very deep leagues. Um, I'd rather not have to start any of them.
39:09How would you rank Shipley compared to Romeo Dobbs and Carnell Tate and Dante Myers and those guys?
39:15Tate is the top of that list for me and full PPR.
39:19I would also have Dante Myers over him. Um, who was the other one?
39:23Uh, my, um, Dobbs. Dobbs and him are kind of the same guy for me.
39:28I think there's good potential for both of them.
39:31I would probably start Shipley. Who's your favorite Eagles wide receiver?
39:34Wicks. Jamie? Yeah, I would agree. Uh, you know, last week was disappointing, but much tougher opponent.
39:40So, you hope to see something that you saw in the first two games, uh, from Wicks where he was 12 PPR points or more.
39:48It's been a little bit of a downward spiral for him the last couple of games, but I think that's just the type of player that he is.
39:57He's going to have some strong performances and some disappearing games.
40:01Um, I just go back to, you know, the start of the show with players to avoid.
40:06Like, if you could avoid Eagles, this is the week to do it.
40:10Yeah, I just think Goddard really, I mean, I'd be more interested in him.
40:15In the first game of the year, he only played one.
40:18He got hurt in the second game. First game of the year, he had four catches, 77 yards, and two touchdowns.
40:25And now no Devontae Smith. I don't know. Jamie didn't seem too optimistic about it.
40:30No, I think he's, he's, he's definitely in the, the back end starting options, you know?
40:35So, like we're discussing today on CBS Sports Network, your favorite, like backup tight end or, you know, guy that's ranked in
40:42the, in the top, in the 13 through 24 range consensus wise.
40:46So like he has Sadiq as a guy that he is interested in and you could definitely make a case for him
40:53based on how he should have performed last week if they threw the ball a little bit more given his target share.
41:01I would rather go back to Colston Loveland over Dallas Goddard just based on what he showed last week.
41:07Tyler Higbee's coming off a strong game. You still have Dalton Schultz getting, for the most part, being the second guy in terms of targets.
41:15Like that's a guy you could debate versus Dallas Goddard.
41:18Jake Ferguson's got a great matchup tonight. You could debate him versus Dallas Goddard right now.
41:23I hope in a week from now that's not the case.
41:27It's just if you're Jacksonville, like what are you trying to take away?
41:31They don't have a lot to have to worry about to take away.
41:35This team is just stripped so down to its core without any of their star players there plus a bad offensive line and a quarterback who's struggling.
41:44Like there's just a whole mess of things going on here for Philadelphia.
41:48Pretty bad. Okay. Then let's move over to the Jaguars.
41:51Bejal Tootin, starter Sid Heath. He's an RB too.
41:54You're probably starting him but I mean it could be a situation where you have two better running backs.
42:00Okay. I'd love to see them just put more on his plate.
42:04Like give him some more catches. Give him some more opportunities.
42:08Don't take him out of the goal line. Like he could, he could in theory be a top 10 fantasy running back.
42:15Like that's, that's the potential with the way this offense is performing and how he's looked like.
42:21I tried to acquire him yesterday in our super flex league.
42:24I offered Omari and Hampton straight up for Bejal Tootin and it was rejected.
42:29Interesting. Yeah. Because they don't take him out at the goal line all the time.
42:33Not all the time. He does have two one yard rushing touchdowns and he's just playing so well.
42:39Chris Rodriguez is really not much of a factor.
42:42He does get in sometimes in short yardage but it's nowhere near an even split.
42:47So yeah, I mean that could have been I thought it was an interesting trade offer but I'm pretty high on Tootin.
42:54Jamie's got him 15th, Dave 14th, Heath 19th. Tootin and Emmanuel Wilson are basically back to back for all of you.
43:01Jamie with Emmanuel Wilson slightly ahead. Heath with Tootin slightly ahead.
43:05Dave with Tootin slightly ahead as well. Okay. And then Parker Washington, is that the only wide receiver you want to start?
43:12Yeah. Yeah. Jacoby Myers has one great game. He had a touchdown in week one.
43:17He's had three or four games with four targets or less.
43:20And so Mitchell playing, I don't think that helps him.
43:23It's just a matter of like they can pick and choose who they want to get involved here.
43:29That's Liam Cohen's I think evil genius. The New England game was Myers.
43:33I don't know if that was a revenge factor or not, but it's just hard to bank on anybody else besides Parker Washington.
43:41Like last week, you know, I was moderately excited about Brent Strange who really only had to do with the Bengals matchup
43:48and he comes out and has a strong performance.
43:51I don't think you can count on that again.
43:54Let's read some questions here to help us out here.
43:57Parker Washington or Josh Downs? Washington. Yeah. Parker Washington or Bucky Irving?
44:01Parker Washington. Yeah. Jacoby Myers or Dontavian Wicks? Wicks for me.
44:04I guess Wicks. Wicks, Godwin or Dante Myers? Myers.
44:07Unless both wide receivers for the Bucky Irving? Yep.
44:10Tootin, Golden, McLaurin or Parker Washington? Pick one. Just need one.
44:14Wow. Parker. How you go, Parker? Braylon Allen, Bajel Tootin or Emmanuel Wilson?
44:18Pick two. Uh, I would sit Braylon Allen. I would sit Wilson.
44:22Shipley or Ramondre Stevenson? Uh, man, Ramondre if he plays.
44:25That'll probably come down to whether Ramondre gets in a full practice for me.
44:30Dallas Goddard or Kenyon Sadiq? This is when I probably would go Goddard, but it's close.
44:35I think that the tight end position as of Thursday morning is the most unsettled.
44:40So like if Mason Taylor is back, and Dallas Goddard gets a full practice and on Friday, then I'd probably go Goddard.
44:47Um, but I don't really think Goddard's going to play this week.
44:51The Jaguars DST is a must start. The Eagles DST is eighth for Heath, but 23rd for Jamie.
44:57Yeah, I'd moved him down to, I do think that they might have like, I don't think the players are giving up
45:04and the defense sounds like it's mostly going to be at full strength.
45:08And I think there's a lot of talented guys.
45:11So I do think they could have kind of a last stand kind of game.
45:16Um, but they're down to 13th now for me.
45:19Okay. They've been so disappointing though. I mean, they are.
45:22Yeah. The thing is like, um, this is, it's a really winnable division.
45:26In fact, I might still pick them to win the division.
45:30I don't even know. I mean, just like I know the giants of the commanders aren't that good are the Cowboys.
45:36I don't know. They lost the giants with dart, but, uh, yeah, I mean, they could, they shouldn't give up here.
45:43They could definitely win the division. I don't think they're giving up.
45:47I mean, I, you know, look, they, they got value for a player that I don't know if he's a free agent into the season.
45:55So I don't know what that factor is. So Juergens, okay.
45:59So they still have him under contract. Like you said, he wasn't playing his, he wasn't playing the position he was in
46:06as well as he would probably play his normal position, his natural position.
46:10So that makes sense for the bank, for the Ravens to go get a center, given what they're, they're looking at, but
46:17it just feels as if when their best offensive lineman and a cornerstone of their franchise, I know there's off field situation going on there retires.
46:26And then they trade away another offensive lineman, which when you looked at this team, that was still one of the strengths of this team.
46:34And now you don't know when Barkley is going to come back.
46:38You don't know when Devante Smith is going to come back.
46:41The quarterback obviously has issues as we've noted time and time again, and it gets magnified when he doesn't have his players there.
46:49So the way that they've looked in barely beating the Titans and losing the last two weeks, it doesn't exactly inspire confidence
46:56for what they're looking at rest of season. So to Heath's point, obviously the defense is still mostly intact when they're healthy.
47:03they should be able to carry them in some games.
47:06We've seen that now with two franchises that are expected to have great defense and not doing so, the Texans and the Eagles.
47:13So can the Eagles bounce back? It just doesn't feel like it against a team that seems to be as one of
47:21the cornerstone top tier teams of the league right now.
47:24It's interesting because if you look at the pass blocking grades and stuff, I don't think Jacksonville's offensive line is actually playing very well.
47:32No, it's one of the worst I could. So it is an opportunity if the Eagles can, but they haven't played up to their potential yet either.
47:40There was only when I checked last week, there was only, there were only two teams that were per ESPN that were
47:47top 10 in both run blocking and pass blocking.
47:50And I'm looking again now the bills and the Rams are the only end of Niners three teams that are top 10
47:58in both run block and pass block win rate according to ESPN.
48:01We have strayed too far from the subject Colts and Steelers.
48:05My son just got an interesting trade-off for regarding the Eagles.
48:09He just texted me. Okay. He would be giving up Omari and Hampton and Parker Washington and getting Saquon Barkley and AJ Brown.
48:16Saquon Barkley and AJ Brown for who? Hampton and Parker Washington?
48:20Yeah, I told him no. No way. Keep the Washington tight.
48:23Hey, you know what? Even though we're going to have a two hour show today, why not talk about the Eagle who scored twice last week?
48:31That's from Marcus. And it's a great point. I mean, we've said we like Wicks better.
48:37We said we don't really want to trust any of the Eagles, but we should talk about Darius Cooper.
48:43He did get seven targets last week. He's got three touchdowns in his last three games, scored against Titans in week two, scored the two touchdowns last week.
48:52He's obviously somebody that Jalen Hurts trusts because he's given him some 50-50 opportunities, although you can probably make a case that
48:59a lot of Jalen Hurts throws are 50-50 opportunities.
49:02I think Cooper is definitely in the number three receiver conversation.
49:05Should not be far off from Wicks, but it just feels as if you're looking at it from a pecking order standpoint when everybody's healthy.
49:14If Goddard plays, it would be Goddard one. I would put Wicks two, Cooper three.
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51:28We've got six games to go. Colts are at the Steelers.
51:31Aaron Rodgers has not had a 300-yard game since joining the Steelers, but the last two games, 292 and 299 yards.
51:38Dare I say he's playing well? The completion percentage is horrible, but he's throwing the ball downfield.
51:44He's averaged 10 or more air yards per pass attempt in three or four games.
51:49Aaron Rodgers did that one time in the previous two seasons combined.
51:53It's a different Aaron Rodgers, and I wonder what that's going to mean against this Colts defense, which is giving up the
52:00six most points to quarterbacks, which is giving up a lot of big plays, although I went and watched the big plays,
52:07and a lot of them were like great throws.
52:10But DK Metcalf, you know, he had two big catches late in the game last week.
52:15I obviously see the potential here for the Steelers, Heath, against the Colts in this passing game.
52:20What do you think? Rodgers is a top 15 quarterback for me this week, and I would obviously start him over Jalen
52:27Hurts and Justin Herbert and Bo Nix and a lot of other guys.
52:32I think the hope for the Steelers offense with Mike McCarthy taking over has mostly happened.
52:37They are running more plays. They are throwing more.
52:40They are throwing downfield more. They aren't throwing 75% of their passes to running backs and tight ends.
52:46It's a cautiously optimistic situation. It's a good matchup against the Colts.
52:49If you had to start Aaron Rodgers, I wouldn't feel that bad about it.
52:54Dare I say, did you write that in there?
52:57Me? Yeah. No. Why? No, no. Dare I say he's playing well.
53:01It felt like it was... No, I did not.
53:04But, yeah, no, I didn't. I wish I had like a dare t-shirt on right now.
53:09Sit Daniel Jones. Aaron Rodgers or Jalen Hurts? Heath just said it and I agree.
53:14Aaron Rodgers. Sorry. Aaron Rodgers or... Dare I say, he just said that already.
53:18Aaron Rodgers or Kirk Cousins? I would go Kirk, but I've gone back and forth on it.
53:24You know, the matchup definitely favors Rodgers, but Cousins is playing so well right now.
53:29I mean, they're both playing, so it's just really like whoever's available on waivers, I would pick up.
53:34All right, last one. Rodgers or Jaden Daniels? I think there's more long-term appeal for Cousins.
53:40Rodgers or Jaden Daniels? Daniels. Daniels. Why are you looking at me like that, Heath?
53:45Do we have him close in our rankings? No, but some people might be wondering.
53:49They may not be ready to trust Jaden Daniels.
53:52I feel like Rodgers had a better season, so I can understand that.
53:57Yes. Start Jonathan Taylor. Josh Downs is the number two wide receiver.
54:00We talked about him and Metcalf. They're pretty similar in the rankings.
54:04Are there any tight ends that you would start over Tyler Warren?
54:08Not for Heath. Heath has Warren third, and Jamie has him 12th.
54:12No, seventh. You've got to update your list, dude.
54:15Seventh. Seventh. There you go. Yeah. But it's a little bit of a difference, and Jamie has him ninth.
54:21I mean, Dave has him ninth. Who are you again?
54:24Rodgers or Hertz? Would you start Jawan Johnson? I'm going to ask you if you wrote dare I say in your notes.
54:31It would throw you off so much. Completely threw me off.
54:35Jawan Johnson or Tyler Warren? Dare I say Tyler Warren.
54:38Yep. Dalton Kincaid or Tyler Warren? Warren. Warren. Okay.
54:41Rodgers we talked about. Jalen Warren. If Rico Dowdle plays, Jalen Warren or Josh Downs, DK Metcalf?
54:47Still Jalen Warren. Yep. Why so confident in Jalen Warren with Dowdle on the way back potentially?
54:52I would not expect a typical workload for Dowdle, but he's going to be a nuisance.
54:57So, you know, you've gotten the Jalen Warren full workload scenario for the last two games, and it's been absolutely amazing.
55:04I just hope that he's shown enough that he's going to be the lead back.
55:09I know what Mike McCarthy said, but, you know, production is production, performance is performance.
55:14So, dare I say that Jalen Warren has earned the right to be the guy.
55:19But you have him ranked in the top 10.
55:22Are you going to drop that? No, yeah. We don't drop him.
55:26Yeah. I mean, he'll fall into the, you know, low teens, right?
55:29When you say 13 or 14, is that low teens or high teens?
55:34That's the low teens. Low teens, yeah. So, he'll still be a must-start running back, but he won't be as high as he is right now.
55:42Don't tell me you don't have him ranked in the top 10, but I just refreshed the rankings page and it's top 10.
55:49We're not ranking Rico Dowdle. He had a limited practice after missing two weeks.
55:54Well, all I can do is go by what the page says.
55:58Of course, because we don't, like, you're talking as if Rico Dowdle has already been announced as the week five starter.
56:05That's why I asked. Dare I say. I said.
56:08We're not sure he's going to play yet. All right.
56:11How about it? I think it's also worth noting, like, it was 75 yards a game the first two weeks of the
56:18season when Rico Dowdle was there for Jalen Warren.
56:21So, it's fine. All right. All right. All right.
56:24All right. Rogers or Hertz. Now, listen, what do we think about Roman Wilson this week?
56:29You love him. He picked him up everywhere. I did not pick him up in a league, did I?
56:35Yeah. Oh, I didn't check. Unless there are people that have their teams named after you.
56:40I didn't check anything today. Right in the Shakir Coleman range for me.
56:45He's a kind of a low-end number three wide receiver, but he's made some big plays.
56:50You can make big plays against the Colts defense.
56:53I think the nice thing about it is the targets have been consistent six in every game.
56:58The production last two weeks has been fun. He's the type of receiver that if you're stuck this week, he doesn't at
57:05least in my opinion, present the same upside as Myers if the Bengals guys are out, Coleman or Shakir if DJ Moore
57:12is out, but can easily be somebody that you plug and play for this week and definitely somebody that can be an
57:19end of bench type receiver for you. Michael Pittman apparently went through the locker room yesterday in a scooter.
57:26Oh, yeah. Scooter. Yeah. So his foot is still a problem and not that he's been a problem for Roman Wilson.
57:32He's been a problem for Aaron Rogers. I think you're just looking at right now, like he's established himself.
57:39Roman Wilson has as the number two receiver in this office.
57:42And just to be clear, it was one of those scooters where you bend your knee and you rest your knee on it.
57:50He wasn't riding a scooter. Yeah. I see. I picked up Roman Wilson in one league.
57:55That's sure about all the others that you click.
57:58I picked him up in like three. So, yeah.
58:01Yeah. Same. I mean, I think he could be a consistent number three receiver as we're dealing with all these injuries and bye weeks.
58:08You starting a Steelers tight end? No. Are you starting the Steelers DST?
58:13Yes. Yes. Let's go to the next. Oh, wait.
58:15Questions. Questions from the audience. Here we go. Downs over Waddle and JMO or JMO?
58:20No. I would. If Keenan Allen was out, I wouldn't if Keenan Allen is back.
58:25Roman Wilson, Chris Godwin, Will Shipley, Keaton Mitchell. Sit one.
58:28Godwin. Yeah. Roman Wilson, Malik Washington or Jacoby Myers?
58:31Washington. Yep. PPR, Josh Downs, Romeo Dobbs or Matthew Golden?
58:35Golden. Yep. Brisket or Rodgers? Jacoby Brissett. I'm the only person with Rodgers, but I'll stand by it.
58:40Roman Wilson or Keon Coleman? I'd go Coleman if more is up.
58:44I have Wilson. Next game, Cincinnati's at Miami. Miami has not scored more than 13 points yet, so that's not great.
58:51How do you feel about the Bengals offense in general, Heath, like Joe Burrow?
58:56I know it's dependent on who plays and whatnot, but just the fact that they may not have to do much in this game, what's the deal?
59:04You don't have to do much to have a good fantasy day against the Dolphins.
59:09At one point late in the game, Brock Purdy was 22 of 23, I think.
59:14Patrick Mahomes didn't throw a whole lot of passes, still had an okay day from what I remember.
59:20I'm starting any... Was it bad? No, it wasn't bad.
59:23He played great. He had 24 pass downs, but he only scored 19.9 points.
59:28Only one quarterback has scored more than that. And that was perfect.
59:32Yeah, to be fair, though, Cousins in week one threw three touchdowns.
59:35He just threw two interceptions against them. Yeah. I will start any of our Bengals starters who are active.
59:42So Burrow's a start. Chase Brown's a start. Tee Higgins is a start if he plays.
59:47Jamar Chase is a start if he plays. Dante Myers is a start if one of Chase Warhiggins misses.
59:53I think the only one that I'm a little bit less certain about is Mike Gesicki.
59:58And this is just the type of guy that it is a revenge game and he has scored a bunch of touchdowns,
60:05but the targets have been so low that I have a hard time calling Gesicki a start.
60:11But I understand a lot of people are going to stream him.
60:15Yeah, I know we're going to get so many Gesicki questions on Sunday.
60:19I'm already Gesicki of them. Yeah. This is kind of what I found that his production in week four.
60:25I mean, actually, this isn't even that concrete. He had a 16.7% target per outrun rate with Tee Higgins off the field.
60:32So Jamar Chase missed much of the game, but it was really when Tee Higgins left that we saw a spike for Gesicki.
60:40And even then it wasn't that great. I was going to say he had three catches for 40 yards.
60:46Yeah. Yeah. But he had, he had, he had his touchdown.
60:49He had three of his targets with Higgins off the field.
60:53Oh, no, sorry. All right. Let's just look at target per out run rate.
60:57Cause Higgins played a lot. 10.7% target per outrun rate last week with Higgins on the field.
61:03That's terrible. 16.7% target per outrun rate with Higgins off the field.
61:07That's still bad, but it is a big spike.
61:10So if Higgins plays, you have to game narrative.
61:13And also the dolphins are terrible against tight ends.
61:15I mean, you could have stopped it terrible. Yeah.
61:18I think the, the, the thing to keep an eye on here is if they're both out, there's reason for confidence in
61:25Myers, Gusecki, and to a lesser degree, Mitchell Tinsley.
61:28If one plays Myers and Gusecki become extremely risky.
61:31If both play, you're not starting any of anybody else.
61:35Yeah. Agreed. But also you say the dolphins are terrible, but from a fantasy standpoint, they're, they're bad against receivers.
61:41They're bad against, yeah, they're good against receivers and yeah, they're good against receivers.
61:46They allow the third fewest points to receivers, but this is, this is what the bangles used to be as well.
61:52When you, whenever you can run on teams to the level that teams are running on the dolphins, you just don't throw the ball enough.
62:00And when they are, have been thrown against it was tight end, you know?
62:05So that's the thing that benefits Gusecki here. And so hopefully if you did invest a lot of fab in Gusecki or
62:12a lot of fab in Myers, we would all much rather see T Higgins and Jamar Chase play because those guys are
62:19rostered starting every league, but for the people that are desperate and chasing these positions and maybe handcuffing them to chase or
62:26Higgins, you're going to get some quality production. If both are out again, if one plays, it just becomes extremely risky because
62:33one of Myers or Gusecki will probably do something.
62:36It's just hard to expect both. And this should be an unbelievable game for Chase Brown.
62:42Like this is what the Chase Brown manager has been waiting for.
62:45You got really, I don't want to say lucky, but you got the benefit of the, the PPR boost last week with the 10 catches.
62:54This is a game where he should have a dominant run performance.
62:57And if you are completely stuck, look at some Ajay P Ryan, because there may be an opportunity for him as well.
63:05I just want to clarify one thing. Just the dolphins have been good.
63:09I think people probably, I know you guys know this.
63:12The dolphins have been good against wide receivers because of the number of times people have thrown on a per target basis.
63:19They've been awful against wide receivers also. Yes. They're, they don't stop wide receivers.
63:24This team stopped throwing naturally. The team stopped throwing teams started their tight ends against the dolphins too.
63:29Um, it is a lot like previous bangles seasons.
63:32Like it's also a lot of who they've played.
63:35I mean, they played the Raiders who don't have a wide receiver that is going to command a lot of targets and
63:42Jack best score a touchdown against them. They played the Vikings without Justin Jefferson.
63:47And who knows if Jordan had Addison, you know, popped up an injury report was dealing with that hamstring injury at some point during the game, you know?
63:56So it's like, there's been some circumstantial stuff here.
63:59Rashi rice. That was the game that he got going a little bit, you know, after a sluggish start was against the dolphins.
64:06So when you throw on them, I think you're going to have success.
64:11Like he said, it's just, we just don't see it.
64:14All right. Gordon in a second. Well, how about this?
64:17Ali Gordon or Malik Washington? I would probably go Gordon's upside, but Washington safer.
64:22I think I'd go Washington and full PPR Gordon and everything else.
64:25And in terms of Chris Bell, are you starting like pretty much all the waiver wire wide receivers, the bills guys?
64:32Yeah. Yes. Okay. Yes. I mean, it is. Yes.
64:35I know it's tempting to say that, but he did have a 60 ish yard touchdown call back because he just barely stepped out of bounds.
64:44He's he's one of these players that you'd love to see like a Denzel Boston type performance from him every now and then because he's capable of it.
64:53We saw it from Caleb Douglas in week one.
64:56I still think that's somebody you want to keep an eye on.
64:59You shouldn't be, you should, you shouldn't need to roster him at this point, but you know, hopefully he gets healthy.
65:06I would love to see what they look like when everybody's there.
65:10You know what I mean? Malik Willis, he got a little overshadowed because of who he is by comparison to Jalen Hertz.
65:17He had a game under a hundred passing yards as well against Minnesota.
65:21Not surprising because Minnesota is so good and he's not, but there still could be some potential for Malik Willis at some
65:29point this season to help fantasy managers still running, you know, so you're getting that.
65:33Okay. So let's do some Ali Gordon stuff here.
65:36We've got some questions from the chat and we'll start with this.
65:40Gasicki or Goddard? I would go Gasicki if the receivers are up.
65:44Yeah. And just to be clear, like we're not expecting Goddard to play at this time.
65:49Sure. And if one receiver is out or if two receivers are out, if one receiver is out still, I would play Gasicki.
65:57Gasicki or Juwan Johnson? Same thing. It'd have to be the receivers out.
66:01Juwan for me, period. Malik Washington or Keenan Allen?
66:04If he plays. I'd go Keenan Allen. Washington for me.
66:07Bengals DST or Jags? Jags. Yeah. Ali Gordon or Dalton Schultz at Flex?
66:11Gordon. Similar to what he said about Washington. Ali Gordon or Scadaboo or Tootin?
66:16We need two. Ali Gordon said. Agreed. Sit Gordon.
66:19Ali Gordon, Quinshawn Judkins, Emmanuel Wilson, Bucky Irving. Pick two.
66:22Wilson and Judkins for me. I think it's Bucky and Wilson for me.
66:26Would you start Ali Gordon or Devon Vele against the Vikings?
66:30Vele. Vele. Denzel, Boston or Ali Gordon? Boston. Gordon.
66:33Okay. Keon Coleman or Gordon? Gordon. If Moore's out.
66:36Heath is higher on Gordon. Gordon or Jeremiah Love?
66:39Jeremiah Love. Okay. All right. Next game is the Raiders at the Patriots.
66:43Okay. This is the one where I've changed my mind on something.
66:47I think. At the beginning of the week and I went on NFL play action and said it.
66:52I was saying to sit Drake May. And I said, you know, it's a horrible week for quarterbacks.
66:58So he probably ended up being close to top 12 or something, but I wasn't too optimistic.
67:04I think the more I dug into it, I really don't think the Raiders defense is good.
67:09I think they're great. I think they're great at one thing and it could be a huge problem.
67:15They're great at rushing the passer. They barely blitz and they get home a lot.
67:20Well, they, they get to the quarterback. I don't know if they sack them fourth, best pressure rate, something like that.
67:27And they barely blitz, but you look at some of the other stuff here.
67:31I mean, I think they, they could easily be, be beaten.
67:35Um, so I've been more optimistic about Drake May.
67:38However, Drake May versus Kirk cousins is a tough one.
67:41Who do you guys like? May for me. Do you like May this week?
67:46Yes. Relative to what quarterback is this week. I think Drake May is like, he's a top 10 quarterback.
67:52You can obviously make a case for Drake May versus cousins, Drake May versus Rogers, Drake May versus Jacoby Brissette.
67:58You know, these guys that weren't expected to be fantasy starters that have played better than him, at least in the case
68:05of Rogers and cousins and matchup wise, definitely favors Brissette.
68:09Um, is he completely fixed because of one good game?
68:12Still doesn't have AJ Brown. The Raiders for what it's worth has, has, have been a good team in terms of fantasy
68:19points allowed to pull out opposing quarterbacks. I think part of that is who they played Malik Willis, Justin Herbert, uh, being two of those guys.
68:27So, you know, I'm hopeful that May runs because I think that's a big part of his fantasy production.
68:33It was such a big part of him as a rookie.
68:37It was part of enhancing his production last year and you saw it.
68:41He doesn't need to go for 54 yards. Um, you know, I think we all love 30 plus points for our quarterback,
68:48but realistically, can he live in that 23 to 25 range or 20 to 25 range, you know, where you'll, you'll be
68:55happy with him as a starting quarterback and confident and starting him week to week.
69:00That's, I think where he'll be, you know, so I don't know if the ceiling is there.
69:06I just think Buffalo's defense is that bad and they were missing some guys last week.
69:11So look, he struggled against them last year when they came to his building and he finished as an MVP candidate by the end of the season.
69:20So I just hope that whatever they did to fix him last week, get him more confident, playing well, hyper targeting who right now is his best receiver.
69:29There's got to be some guys that make plays for him.
69:32Hopefully that continues. And the other thing about May is that he's averaged 7.3 yards per attempt or better in three or
69:39four games and 7.3 yards per attempt is what Matthew Stafford is averaging for the year.
69:45It's kind of average and, you know, it's the past volume has been kind of an issue for him.
69:51And when you talk about that, there's only been one quarterback who's thrown more than 30 times against the Raiders was Tyler
69:58Shuck and he scored 32 fantasy points. So I'm just not really believing that the Raiders are that good of a defense.
70:05It's turnovers. How many did Mahomes throw? What's that?
70:08How many did Mahomes throw? I don't know. But not 30.
70:12Or not more than 30. And again, that speaks to their defense.
70:15Like they got to place the Chiefs with Rice leaving the game very early.
70:20He threw 30. In overtime. No, I didn't go to overtime.
70:24That was in overtime? Oh, the Colts were overtime.
70:26So anyway, the New England running backs, I mean, if Ramondre is out, where are you going to rank Travion?
70:33Top 15. Top 20 for sure. Okay. And if Ramondre is in, then these guys are much less appealing.
70:39We talked about Ramondre at the top of the show and the players to avoid, I believe, section.
70:45One of you was higher on him. Yeah, I'm interested.
70:48Dave has Ramondre as a start for our show at noon.
70:52Let Heath and Dave debate that one. Okay. And Romeo Dobbs is a number three receiver.
70:57Check the updated rankings so I don't get yelled at.
71:00He is 29th for Jamie, 33rd for Dave, 35th for Heath.
71:04If, if Stevenson plays, who's the best flex for the Patriots?
71:07Steven. Probably. Okay. I'm encouraged by Dobbs because I think the absence of Mac Hollins, I assume he's not going to play,
71:14is kind of a big deal, actually. Yeah. Matt Collins, 20% target per route run rate or better in three or four games.
71:22Like, he draws targets. Dobbs had nine last week, caught two touchdowns.
71:26Hunter Henry, 16th for Jamie, 14th for Heath as of yesterday.
71:29Now it is 17th for Jamie, 14th for Heath, 22nd for Dave.
71:33You could do worse than Hunter Henry. The Raiders are 24th against tight ends, mostly because they're giving up touchdowns.
71:40They don't give up a lot of yards to tight ends.
71:43Do you know what Romeo Dobbs' ADOT is this year?
71:46No. 16.1. It's not, yeah, it's high. If you're going to have a high ADOT, it's, Drake May is a pretty good
71:54quarterback to have that with, I think. He was last year.
71:57Yeah. All right, on the other side of the ball, Cousins or Stroud?
72:01I like Stroud better. Same. May or Stroud? May.
72:04Yep. May, Stroud, Cousins. Okay, Cousins is, you know, he's not bad.
72:08Like the Chiefs were giving up the fewest fantasy points to the quarterbacks last week.
72:13Kirk Cousins scored 26.6 points against them. He did throw 52 times, though.
72:17All right, Patriots, ninth best so far. His worst game so far was week one, 19.8 points.
72:23Yeah. And that was with two interceptions on top of three touchdowns.
72:27He's been better than that in every game since.
72:29So, it's surprising because it's Kirk Cousins at his age, but I think this is a credit to what we talked about this offseason.
72:37Their offensive line was definitely improved. And the Kubiak system has been great for him.
72:42Yep. Now, start Bowers. Start Bowers and Gentty. Michael Mayer or Hunter Henry?
72:46Who do you like better? Henry's definitely safer. Wouldn't surprise me.
72:50Mayer has another good game, though. Yeah, Henry. And Tucker really hasn't gotten a lot of targets since Bowers came back.
72:57He had eight last week, but again, more than 50 passes for Cousins and four of the eight targets for Tucker were
73:04in the last minute and a half of the game.
73:07So, you guys have him outside the top 36.
73:10Heath, a little higher on Tucker than Jamie and Heath, but still not a guy we're looking to start.
73:16He's one of these guys that's droppable if you can pick up Myers or Coleman or Roman Wilson.
73:22Mostly the Bengals or Bills replacements. Like, that's the type of receiver you can drop if you want to pick up somebody
73:29that has more upside for at least one week.
73:32You like the DSTs in this game? Like, but don't love.
73:35Sure. Okay. Questions from the chat. Pick two. Cousins, Murray, Tyler Shuck.
73:39I'm sitting Murray. Yep. If Jefferson plays? Yep. Yeah.
73:42Ramondre or Emmanuel Wilson? Wilson. Emmanuel! May or Purdy?
73:45Purdy. Yep. May or Lawrence? Lawrence. I've got May.
73:48Ramondre or Jeremiah Love? Love. Yep. Say I dare, cousins or Hertz?
73:52Cousins. Cousins. Genty or Emmanuel Wilson? You guys are just the same as the Avatar.
73:57Genty. All right. Cleveland's at the Jets. I think we have three more games, guys.
74:02Let's see if we can do it in 10 minutes.
74:05Starter set to Sean Watson. Heath? He's a high-end QB, too, for me.
74:09Actually, my favorite streamer. I love the fact that he's second amongst QBs in rushing.
74:14I don't think this Jets defense is one you have to shy away from.
74:19I think the Todd Monken system is working for him.
74:22So, top 15 guy. 13th for Heath, 18th for Dave and Jamie.
74:26Deshaun Watson or Kirk Cousins? Cousins. Cousins. Watson for me.
74:29Watson or Stroud? Stroud. Watson for me. All right.
74:32Quinn Sean Judkins, 14th for Jamie. Talked about him earlier.
74:35Heath, how come you're not as... 16th for Jamie.
74:3816th. You're not as high, Heath. You have him 22nd.
74:41I mean, I don't know if that's a big difference or not.
74:45I mean, it may be a bigger difference this week than it is most.
74:50He's got one game with more than 53 rushing yards.
74:53The receptions are awesome when they happen, but it's been every other week, so I guess he's due for two targets this week.
75:00No, that was a joke, but they're not reliable yet.
75:04So, he's an RB2. I just think a low end.
75:07Okay. You heard Herbstreet talk about on the broadcast that he felt like Judkins hadn't really looked like himself coming off the injury until last week.
75:15He finally started looking better. I watched some of his runs and, man, he missed two plays.
75:21He missed the obvious holes. He could have had a much better game.
75:25I don't know if that's a normal thing for him, but at least he was bouncing around out there and looked a little faster.
75:33Jets, by the way, give up the six most points to running backs.
75:37So, Boston and Concepcion. Jamie, how would you compare them to the streaming receivers this week?
75:42So, if there are no Bengals starters, I'd go Myers over Boston.
75:46If one of the Bengals guys plays or both, I would start Boston over Myers and I would start Boston over Coleman
75:53even if Coleman-Echkear even if DJ Moore is out.
75:56You would start Boston over both Bill's guys even if Moore is out?
76:00Yes. Okay. I would too. The only wide receiver I think on the waiver wire that I would start over Boston is Malik Washington.
76:08And Concepcion has just got to hope for something there, I guess.
76:12But he does have two straight games with eight or nine targets.
76:16Yeah, he's just not doing much with them. There's going to be a game where he has like the Wandel Robinson six
76:23for 90 type game, seven for 90, eight for 90, nine for 90 based on his lack of yards per catch.
76:30It's just hard to envision it right now. But he's not a bad stash candidate in PPR.
76:35I'd like to, I've had thought about dropping him a couple of times and I do not want to.
76:41Concepcion, yeah. Yeah. Is Harold Vanden Jr. just an easy start at this point?
76:46It's not an easy matchup, but I think just given the fact that he's giving you three straight games of 10 or more PPR points.
76:54Last week was a little frustrating how he got it because it was touchdown dependent, but he does have three touchdowns in his last two games.
77:02So the way Deshaun Watson's playing right now, I don't think you should have a lot of faith in this Jets defense overall.
77:10I think it's a, it's a good start. He is the definition of a borderline tight end one for me.
77:16Sit Geno Smith. Who's your favorite running back in this game?
77:20Chuck Allen. Heath made the case for Braylon Allen earlier.
77:23You know, he had every running back touch since Brees Hall's injury.
77:27Then I already, and I also said that Browns, they allow 4.8 yards per carry to running back.
77:33So I imagine Allen and Judkins are going to be started in a lot of leagues.
77:38They should be. What'd you say? They should be.
77:41Yeah. Would you start Allen or RJ Harvey in PPR?
77:44Allen. Allen. Allen or Jalen Waddle? Waddle even if Dottle plays.
77:48Yeah. Okay. Waddle even if who plays? Oh, I'm sorry.
77:51I think it's Jalen Warren. Excuse me. I heard Jalen.
77:54I would start Allen over Jalen Waddle. Excuse me.
77:57I'll go Waddle and full PPR Allen and the rest.
78:00Dare I say, that was a mistake. There you go.
78:04Start Garrett Wilson. Although the Browns logo is bleeding into your shirt.
78:07Gee, you think if you named the team the Browns, you'd have more Brown and your helmet.
78:13But start Garrett Wilson. I know his name after the owner.
78:16Very narcissistic thing to do, by the way. Any interest in Isaiah Williams?
78:21You would name your team the Azers if you bought a team.
78:25I'd call them the Red Eyes. The Azer lasers.
78:27No one's interested in Isaiah. Red Eyes would be so good.
78:31You get so many airline sponsorships. And yeah, Heath, Kenyon Sadiq, you're the only one who's got faith.
78:37Yeah, it was a bad game last week, but I think that the Jets are probably going to have a little more
78:44success passing this week than Gino Smith did last week.
78:47I think so. And he had four first read targets.
78:50Thank you, Jacob, for that stat. Cleveland's DST. Yesterday, they were 44.
78:54I don't even know why I bother doing roster percentages on Wednesday because a lot of leagues now run their waivers Wednesday night.
79:02For example, Will Shipley yesterday was rostered in about 41% of leagues.
79:06Now he's over 60%. But the Browns DST, they're out there.
79:09Three straight solid games. They're highly ranked this week.
79:12Denver is at the Chargers. Heath, who are the players you want to start in this game?
79:18It's tough. The Broncos defense. Yeah. Even without Pat Sertan.
79:21Other than that, like I am going, I would start in full PPR RJ Harvey over Omari and Hampton.
79:27I think Hampton and Mitchell are fine flexes. Waddle's a low end wide receiver too.
79:32I don't really, like I don't love anybody in this game.
79:35Who's the best flex? Probably Waddle. The issue I have with Waddle, and I said it last week and it continues, is I just don't know why.
79:44I don't know what happens when he struggles and what happens when he succeeds and what keys to look for.
79:51Oh, well, in matchups like this, he does well.
79:54I don't know. It just seems completely random. His slot rate and his outside rate are all over the place.
80:00They use him differently. I don't know. So it's almost like you have to have blind faith in Jalen Waddle.
80:07And he's come through decently since week one. What did he call it?
80:11A touchdown last week? Yeah, five for 35 and a touchdown.
80:14He was terrible. I forgot he was terrible against the Rams in week three.
80:19Granted, that is the Rams. I don't know if if Bo next doors for 200 yards, Waddles come through with a good fantasy game.
80:27That's the passing game is struggling. It hasn't, you know, usually you get a player of his pedigree joining a new team and it's there's the boost, right?
80:36The passing game gets better. The quarterback gets better.
80:39He's usually pretty good. The receiver. We just haven't seen that yet.
80:42So it's not like Pat Bryant being gone is going to be a huge boost for anybody because maybe it does help a little bit.
80:51I think you're just looking at Waddle as a number two receiver that you hope has a strong enough performance, but it just hasn't been consistent.
80:59And I should point out Derwin James is out and one of their cornerbacks for the Chargers, he's injured as well.
81:06So it's a deplete, like obviously their whole team is injured, but their secondary is a little bit depleted too.
81:12I should also point out, this is something I was worried about preseason for Waddle.
81:17Cortland Sutton, who's having a terrible year, he leads the team in red zone targets, green zone targets, and end zone targets.
81:24Jalen Waddle has two red zone targets. He does not have a single target in the green zone, which is 10 yard
81:31line and in or in the end zone, which is the painted spots behind the goal lines.
81:37So that's, I don't know, maybe an issue for Jalen Waddle.
81:40Obviously that could change. What? Defining end zones? It was funny.
81:44It was good. Thank you. Thank you. RJ Harvey, I want to point out last two weeks, he has career high target shares.
81:51Bo Nix has an unusually high running back target rate over the last two games, two of his top five in his entire career.
81:59So those of you who are, I see some people trading for RJ Harvey.
82:04I don't think you should expect like 17 targets or whatever it is in a two game stretch.
82:10Yeah, 17 targets. It's, it's, this is like, this is like the Broncos offense throwing running backs on steroids.
82:16Probably won't continue at this rate, but, but it is happening.
82:19So he's worth a look. Camara or the Camara or the new Camara, RJ Harvey, Harvey, Harvey, Harvey or Metcalf.
82:26Why not? It's a good one. I go Metcalf.
82:29I have Harvey. Which quarterback do you like better in this game?
82:33Nix. Nix. Well, he addressed his running or lack thereof yesterday and he said he still feels great.
82:38He's just trying to make more plays with his arm.
82:4225 rushing yards on the season is pretty bad.
82:44Yeah, that's terrible. Okay, and then Sid Ingram. If McConkie plays, where are you going to rank him?
82:50Borderline top 24. So, the fact that there is no Sertan is great, it's just how healthy is he?
82:56And I think that was something that was an issue going into last week.
83:01We kind of got sold a bill of goods that he was healthy and he wasn't.
83:06I think you just view him as a boom bust number three wide receiver because he has the potential to be great
83:13and he has the potential to play after snaps.
83:16And if he's out, you like Trey Harris or Quentin Johnston?
83:20Harris, but not with a lot of confidence. Right.
83:23You like Harris. If McConkie's out, would you start Harris over Omari and Hampton or Keaton Mitchell?
83:28No. No. Would you start Will Shipley over Omari and Hampton and Keaton Mitchell?
83:33No. Hampton, Shipley, Mitchell. Would you start Omari and Hampton or Keaton Allen if he plays?
83:38Hampton. Probably. All right. We're not interested in Kamani Vidal.
83:41Rondé Gassin had eight targets last week. That was cool.
83:44Listen, he's also in the streaming conversation if there is no McConkie because they just need healthy bodies to make plays at this point.
83:52But it's just the offensive line is such a disaster.
83:55Houston's at Denver's DST's start. Let me fly through a few questions here.
84:00See, we have any for this game. Waddle or Debo?
84:03Waddle. Hampton or Jeremiah Love? Love. Waddle or Christian Watson?
84:06Watson. Yep. Trey Harris or Josh Downs? Downs. Yep.
84:09Flex spot, R.J. Harvey or George Kittle? Kittle. Kittle?
84:12Yep. Houston's at Tennessee. The Texans are getting a new play caller.
84:16D'Amico Ryan's taking over, calling plays defensively. Hopefully that helps.
84:19CJ Stroud over Bo Nix and over Justin Herbert.
84:22CJ Stroud and Kirk Cousins, I think I asked you guys that earlier.
84:26I think you have Stroud, right? You went May, Stroud, Cousins.
84:30CJ Stroud or Jacoby Brissett? Brissett. I think Stroud for, no percent.
84:34Now Tennessee, they're giving up the fifth fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks, but 26th in yards per attempt.
84:39Lamar Jackson scored 21 points and a half against them.
84:43So this is another one. I'm not really buying it.
84:46They did it all last year too, right? Did they?
84:49I'm not sure. Or they were good against wide receivers one or the other.
84:54It was for the same exact reason. It's just like nobody has to throw against them.
84:59Yeah, that's true. This team, though, they cannot run.
85:02So hopefully Stroud throws enough. And do you want to start like how would you compare the Chargers running backs to the Texans running backs?
85:10Rather have the Chargers guys, both Chargers over both Texans.
85:13Okay, so that is not we do not want to start David Montgomery and Woody Marks.
85:18And this is a good run defense. They go up 3.63 yards per carry to running backs and three running backs do
85:25have 20 or more carries against the Titans though.
85:28So again, they run teams run a lot. Don't throw a ton on Tennessee start Nico Collins.
85:34Starter sit Dalton Schultz. Schultz. I like you to win.
85:37Okay. Schultz. Yeah, I don't know. It's hard. This is kind of what tight ends do and receivers do it too up and down.
85:45There's no reason why Schultz can't have a good game.
85:48Schultz or Gadsden? Schultz. Schultz. Schultz or Gasicki? Gasicki if the receivers are up.
85:53Gasicki if both receivers are up. Sit Cam Ward.
85:55Tony Pollard or Amari and Hampton? Pollard. Hampton. Oh, this is a big difference here.
86:00Heath, you want to make the case for Pollard?
86:03He's just getting a large share of the work.
86:06He's running very well. I think he's going to have a couple of catches.
86:11And I don't want to start Amari and Hampton.
86:14Pollard's 27th for Jamie, 26th for Dave, and 20th for Heath.
86:17Would you guys start Kyle Monongai or Tony Pollard?
86:20Monongai if he's healthy. Pollard for me. Okay. And then starter sit Wondale Robinson.
86:25Sit. Yeah, he's a low upside number three. Any Carnell Tate questions in the chat here?
86:30Any Carnell Tate questions? Carnell Tate or Tony Pollard?
86:33Tate. Tate. Carnell Tate or Denzel Boston? Tate. I think they're back-to-back.
86:37I'd go Tate. Carnell Tate or Ali Gordon? Tate.
86:40Tate. I'm excited that we got Carnell Tate, Heath, in our 10-team league.
86:44Yeah, yeah. It was, I mean, I had to give up Khalif Raymond, which is never easy.
86:49But we got him. We got him. We got him.
86:52Texans DST, this is your last chance. They are top two in the rankings.
86:57I'm not seeing a lot of questions in the chat about this game, so I think I am ready to hang up
87:04the phone and start Adam Azer, Jamie Eisenberg, or Heath Cummings.
87:08Oh, Azer is questionable. Not him. Jamie's name is spelled wrong, so we're going to go with Heath in this one.
87:14No, no, it's a joke. Do better New York Yankees.
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