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0:14Let's go beyond the box score here on Monday, October 12th.
0:17Adam Azer, Jacob Gibbs and Dan Schneier breaking it down for you.
0:21Baltimore 30, Atlanta 23. That's the first thing we'll talk about.
0:24Our big topics today. Can Caleb Williams rescue the Bears offense and those fantasy points that we need so badly from their receiving options?
0:31What are we gonna do with Chase Brown? He is really struggling.
0:34He is running back 25 per game in non-PPR, 20 per game in half PPR, 18 per game in full PPR.
0:40Not playing like a first or second round pick right now.
0:43Should we sell high on Mike Evans? There are some compelling reasons why you might consider it.
0:47What does that even mean? How high are we selling?
0:50And which offenses suck and we are avoiding them like the fantasy plague.
0:54What's up, Dan? What up boys? How you guys doing today?
0:57I mean, it's been a wild season so far.
0:59I look at some of my teams and they're vastly injured.
1:02And I just come to this show to think, how can I fix this team?
1:07And so we talk about that today and hopefully the advice we give today can help everyone else fix their teams that are dealing with major injuries.
1:14Yeah. Now you do this show just for your teams or for the other people's team?
1:19I mostly do it for the other people. Okay.
1:21Jacob, new location. Oh, no. Is this the same location as yesterday?
1:24Yeah, same location as yesterday. Okay. Looking to fix some teams.
1:27Man on the move. I'm starting to figure out which teams I am going to care about rest of season.
1:33Okay. Yeah. I can leave. We're at that point.
1:36We're at that point. But we got two overtime games yesterday and one of them did not end in a tie.
1:41That was last night's game. What a comeback win for Baltimore.
1:44They win 30 to 23. Let's start there. Jacob, major takeaways from the Ravens.
1:48Overtime win over the Falcons. And we're hoping Michael Penix is okay.
1:52He has injured ribs. Yeah, for sure. Definitely. Like it's brutal.
1:55If Penix is out, um, because so much of the Drake London stuff has come from him.
1:59Good to see a bit of a bounce back here for Kyle Pitts.
2:03I would say, um, bought the Baltimore side of things is more interesting to me.
2:07Honestly, like we've seen Atlanta on primetime now three straight weeks and it's just kind of like the same thing.
2:13Like, um, I guess it's sort of interesting that their defense didn't look quite as good.
2:17They weren't able to just completely control the game and the way that they had the previous two games, but Atlanta continues to look good.
2:24Baltimore, I was just encouraged to see that like we could still get some functional offense, even with Snoop Huntley in there.
2:30Like you never really know for sure. And this is a new coaching staff and everything.
2:35So I was excited to see how that would all gel in the first time working together and it looked pretty good.
2:41Yeah. I mean, I think you could argue that it didn't look great until the fourth quarter.
2:46Yeah. He had in the fourth quarter in overtime, Tyler Huntley scored 15.5 fantasy points.
2:50He had 80 passing yards and a touchdown. He had a rushing touchdown.
2:53He had a two point conversion as well. I think, uh, no, no, he did not.
2:58Derek Henry did. Um, there's just like 15 teams right now that are absolutely like, you're just hoping a prayer each week
3:04is how I feel about their passing game. You think so?
3:07And so, yes, dude, yes. There's so many bad.
3:09I don't, I didn't come away from this feeling very confident about the Ravens passing game.
3:14I don't know how the numbers, Jacob, you might, but to me from just watching on broadcasts, it looked like generally no
3:20air yards at all in this game. Hundred and eight catchable air yards, a hundred and eight.
3:25So like, it kind of reminds me of like Pittsburgh a little bit.
3:28Um, obviously it's not quite as you don't trust him to read things out quite as well as Aaron Rogers just think,
3:34but it's a lot of quick hitting stuff. Like Rogers had 71 catchable air yards this week, which is extremely low.
3:40Wow. But it's not really a problem. Like it worked because I think that the design worked all right.
3:46You know, like for fantasy, it works okay. And I think that could be kind of what we have here with Baltimore, which is to me a win.
3:53If we're just looking at like waiting until the market's back, like I'm just glad to not have to like, Oh crap.
3:59Do I bench as a flowers? Like, I don't think we're there.
4:03I think we're okay. Yeah. I don't know if we're there.
4:06And I, I agree with that. I just don't think that I think his ceiling is majorly capped with, with Huntley at quarterback.
4:12Um, but I do think it doesn't take that much away from Henry.
4:16If anything, it might even add a little bit to Henry's play less or fewer scoring opportunities.
4:21But this offense to me from watching it, and I'll go back this week and look at the tape to see if it confirms.
4:27It's generally just designed around the run game completely when Huntley is at quarterback, all the motion pre snap, all the zone
4:33read stuff where he's either keeping or giving it to Henry, uh, all the kind of just like you saw more power gap.
4:40I thought where the Ravens were pulling offensive linemen, trying to get Henry out in space, even, uh, at times justice Hill out in space.
4:47But passing wise, it feels very limited to me.
4:49And I think that teams will adjust to this as well.
4:52I think we're headed to a bad passing game, probably in there.
4:56Who do they have next after this? They're at Cleveland in week six.
4:59Then Cincinnati that being bad. I could see both of those, but being bad, but look, Hey, Mark Jackson could be back.
5:05You know, he, he might not even miss this upcoming game.
5:08All right. So listen, you're going to start Zay flowers.
5:11Mark Andrews could have had a good game. He dropped a touchdown.
5:14He dropped the two point conversion. He actually had a terrible game, uh, by his standards, but he could have been good.
5:21But I don't say you can really trust Mark Andrews.
5:23Um, but Derek Henry, I did want to talk about here because Derek Henry is RB five per game.
5:29Yeah. And he's averaging 4.2 yards per carry. He has a 4.4 explosive play rate.
5:33That's how many, that's the percentage of his plays that are for 12 or more yards is runs.
5:38Uh, that's ahead of guys like chase Brown, Emmanuel Wilson, Omarion Hampton, Brian Robinson, Jr.
5:42Cam Scadaboo, Ashton Jente. He doesn't really run the ball all that well, but he's scoring a lot.
5:47I mean, he's Derek Henry. It's just, he looks more right now on paper.
5:51Derek Henry looks more like sort of the, the end of the Tennessee tenure than the first two years of the Baltimore
5:57tenure, which was, but now almost all those years were really good for fantasy 2023 with Tennessee.
6:02Wasn't good, but I don't know. Like there are some, I think concerning numbers here, uh, for Derek Henry.
6:07If I don't know if anyone cares cause he's Derek Henry, but that's what's going on.
6:11I think you're right from an efficiency standpoint. I just don't think it matters though.
6:16And that's part of why fantasy is so interesting to me.
6:19We, we've done this a lot with these types of players, but the reality is he averages 3.2 or 4.5.
6:24It's going to be a matter of, of like 2.6 points per game from rushing and reality.
6:29And, and, and if the rushing touchdowns are still as high as they are, and there's some receiving touchdowns, those are going to completely Trump.
6:36I don't know 20 yards. He's losing a game.
6:38I don't know that there's going to be receiving touchdowns.
6:41There was one yesterday. If the total touchdowns are where they've been during his Baltimore tenure and they're completely on track as to where they've been.
6:48And when, when Lamar comes back, they'll remain that way.
6:51Well, a touchdown is worth, you know, the, the, the 20 yards, he's losing an efficiency.
6:56A touchdown is worth three times that. Yeah. All right.
6:58Now I do think we'll have a conversation later in the week on how to approach the Falcons guys.
7:04If Michael Penix is out because we just, well, that's a Drake London has been unbelievable with Michael panics and he hasn't
7:10been anything close to that with anyone else. And now to a tongue of Iloa through how many passes in this game,
7:16three and two of them were to Drake London.
7:18And one was in her. One was through. Third was supposed to go to the Hamilton, but it was supposed to go to the Drake London.
7:26So maybe things will be different this time. If you're thinking about Kyle pits, he's 69% rostered.
7:30This was his first game with more than three targets.
7:33He had five catches, 42 yards and a touchdown on six targets.
7:36He only had a 17.6% target share. So, you know, that's not super encouraging here.
7:41But it's a step in the right direction. Maybe you hang on to him for another week and see what's going on.
7:47All right. What's the beyond the box score schedule looking like guys?
7:50Um, but not a lot of good stuff or beyond the box score as usual.
7:54Dan and I do our signature show every Tuesday.
7:57So catch you up on all the film that we watched from week five and dig into way for our options and
8:03just all the advanced stats nuggets that we found.
8:05Um, talk about risers and followers on that show.
8:08And then we do, um, a rest of season rankings update for every position on Wednesdays.
8:12Um, go through the usage notes for every team, every player from the previous week.
8:16Um, and I think I'm going to do this week if I've got time for it, I'd like to carve out, um,
8:22time to make an episode that's like looking at the offensive environments that we have.
8:27Um, and trying to figure out which ones are the best.
8:30I think we're going to do the inverse of that today.
8:33We're looking at which ones are the worst. Yeah.
8:35Um, so hopefully a little bit of positivity, maybe find time for that episode this week.
8:40Good. I love it. I mean, we need some positivity and you know what?
8:44One of our topics is Chase Brown and I'm already seeing four comments about Chase Brown in the chat.
8:49So I want to bring these. He's killing us.
8:51Yeah. Uh, you don't trade Chase Brown after a low week and he's going into his buy, but take Chase Brown out of that.
8:58You don't trade player a whatever after a low week, right?
9:01This is what we would call selling low. But if you think that this is legitimately going to be a bust, like
9:07I wish I had sold a Marian Hampton a few weeks ago, his values only gotten worse.
9:12Um, if you think that any player is going to just be a bust, then sell him now while some people still
9:18think he's a buy that some people still think he's a buy low.
9:22Do we feel that way about Chase Brown guys?
9:24Do we think that we should sell low on him because it's fool's gold for the people who are actually buying Chase Brown?
9:31Chase Brown is really interesting. Um, cause you, you might be right.
9:34Um, but I just, it's not, no, I'm sorry.
9:36That's not my opinion necessarily. I'm just floating that out there.
9:39Yeah. Okay. Uh, yeah, that idea could be right.
9:42Um, I, it's different to me than Hampton in that the office environment is so much better.
9:47Yeah. Right. Like the chargers, like literally everything is falling apart.
9:50It's insane. I don't want to get too fixated on the chargers because I could talk about it for like 30 minutes,
9:56but like this week I was like, is Keandre Lambert Smith at least healthy, healthy.
10:00Maybe he'll step in and play now that their top six receivers are out.
10:04And it's like, no, he's on the IR. We're to Marcus while the scantling.
10:08Yeah. For backup offensive lineman. It's crazy. Whereas like the Bengals seem fine for the most part, you know, and we we've
10:14seen some games like this where some much, some much PR is a decent player, I think is really the thing to highlight.
10:20And you've got some context on that, Adam. We're like, this has happened in the past at times.
10:25And Chase Brown, I think ultimately has one out.
10:28Most of the time we don't know for sure that he will again this time, but I personally would rather bet on
10:34that because we know it can be so good for fantasy.
10:37It's seriously so simple for chase Brown. Show up to work.
10:40Don't fumble. And you're probably going to put fantasy points on the board.
10:44Yeah. And he's been a bit. Oh, sorry. No, I was going to say that the whole P Ryan thing last year,
10:50there was a stretch of the first seven games of the season for chase Brown.
10:54We're really bad. He, he averaged 3.6 yards per carry.
10:57He was on pace for 206 carries and 53 catches.
10:59And he was on pace for two touchdowns. He had one touchdown in seven games in his last 10 games.
11:05He averaged 21.6 PPR fantasy points per game. Uh, he's the top five running back in all formats, you know, per game.
11:11So, and he was on pace for 250 carries and 80 catches.
11:14But what scares me a little bit is that when he was struggling, he started splitting fairly evenly with Samajay P Ryan.
11:21Right. And then P Ryan got hurt. Yeah. Yeah.
11:23So in week six through eight, Chase Brown had 32 carries and P Ryan had 22 carries.
11:28Chase Brown was playing 58% of the snaps in week six through eight.
11:31We can't have that. Right. Okay. Like that's bad.
11:34What's this is what's safe. Chase. You can talk in one second.
11:37Sorry, Dan. What's safe. Brown last week, last year, rather was the P Ryan injury.
11:41Then his season really got going and he never really relinquished that.
11:45Go ahead. No, you made the point that I wanted to make.
11:48And it's a great point. We had to ask ourselves this off season was what we saw at the end of last
11:54season with Chase Brown because Chase Brown stepping up and they love him or because they had no options.
11:59And if you think about it with given, just think back to what their roster was at running back last year after
12:06the P Ryan injury, it was no one they can trust.
12:09And then Chase Brown, but a P Ryan only missed three games.
12:12So like after he came back, he stayed, he stayed on that point.
12:16And that was kind of the idea that like, okay, Chase Brown has taken over this backfield, but we don't know when
12:22he came back, if he was fully healthy, but there's a lot of other factors involved there.
12:26Now it feels like he's not necessarily someone I would trade at all because I think Jacob outlined the boom case and it's a good one.
12:34Like even through the first four weeks before yesterday, he just wasn't scoring touchdowns and he wasn't getting and that would have
12:40changed his whole, his whole outlook essentially. But he just doesn't look great out there from what I've seen.
12:45That's the bigger concern with me. The efficiency is down and the passing game stuff isn't there like it was last season.
12:51The passing game stuff is also concerning because I think, you know, last year in that stretch, he was on pace for
12:5780 catches, but a lot of that was without P Ryan.
13:00Two games without T Higgins. He had massive target games without T Higgins.
13:04He had a massive target game last week without Jamar Chase.
13:07I think it's possible. He's like a 60 catch guy, which is great, but it's not 80.
13:12Maybe a 60. How many catches would you project Chase Brown for rest of season?
13:16Because I'm thinking 55 to 60. Probably about right.
13:18I think that's fair. I also think like we can't overstate like, or I guess it would be overstate just the difference.
13:24The environment's still great, Jacob. And I agree with you, but the environment isn't what it was last year.
13:30Last year, their defense got off the field in five plays and they gave up a touchdown in those chase Brown in
13:36the gun and he's just getting all these dump downs and he's getting all these like carries out a shotgun when the
13:42defense drops into too high shell or cover three covers four covers, like whatever it is hand off.
13:47He's got a nice running lane or dump down and that's just not there anymore.
13:51The Bengals are ahead in these games. Their defense is playing great and they're going under center a little more.
13:57There's just not the same type of offense. I don't think anymore is what it was last season.
14:02That to me is the bigger concern with a chase Brown.
14:05Fair enough. And like right now they're 12th in points.
14:07So, okay. Some context. They're 12th in points per game right now.
14:11Last year, they were 12th in points per game.
14:13And for the full season, including those bad seven games start the year, Chase Brown was eighth per game in PPR, 10th
14:19and half PPR, 13th per game in non PPR.
14:22He made his hay. He was amazing in the last six games of the season when Joe Burrell came back and they were fifth in points per game.
14:30So far cry going from fifth to 12. Right.
14:32So let's just finish up this conversation here with Chase Brown.
14:35A few things here. We're trying to assess some trade value.
14:38Okay. I'm thinking about trading Devante Adams for Chase Brown.
14:41This is from Wayne. Devante Adams for Chase Brown.
14:44Would you do that? I'd rather have Chase Brown personally, but am I being stubborn?
14:48No, I think I'd also rather Chase Brown. I feel like it's a nice buy low, especially if you need running back.
14:54Like this person probably needs a running back. Chase Brown or this is like ridiculous.
14:58I don't understand. You gave up Chase Brown for Ja'Cory Krosky, Merritt and Mekhi Lemon.
15:02That's that. That's the type of stuff people are panicking and asking, but I wouldn't do that.
15:07I wouldn't do that. I mean, outside of the one touchdown run yesterday where like it was just a horrific angle by the giant safety.
15:14He, of course, Bill did literally nothing in that game.
15:17Yeah. Outside of that. He had another run. It was like 22 yards.
15:20I thought he had a 22 yarder. He had that.
15:23Yeah. He had the 22 yarder. He had that.
15:26And then just was, was not really. He doesn't catch the ball.
15:29And Mekhi Lemon is not going to be much when Devante Smith comes, but he's not much right now.
15:34In general, he's not going to be much in that offense.
15:37I prefer Ramondre Stevenson over Chase Brown. Now. I mean, his Travion's out, but Travion could be out early out this week.
15:43They haven't ruled him out yet. So yeah, but, but that's a good question.
15:47I think I'd still go chase Brown. If Travion's playing Ramondre has the exact same concerns.
15:52Like he hasn't run all that. Well, he has fumbled problems.
15:55Like when Corey Kiner fumbled this week on reds and I was like, Oh no, Ramondre fumbled the kid.
16:00Like we're, we're one away with him. He's a worse like version of chase Brown.
16:04In my opinion works offense. Like I don't know.
16:07Yeah, that's fair. The Patriots offense is starting to step up though and play better football again.
16:11Thankfully. Here's a tough one. Here's a tough one.
16:14Bucky or Brown. It's not tough. The, the bucks are terrible.
16:17The bucks are terrible, but I know that he's getting, I know that he looked great last week, but we're talking about
16:23like, what just the sentiments of the all time high with Bucky's coming off literally the absolute best possible outcome.
16:29Um, in his role compared to chase Brown and the absolute worst outcome.
16:32Yeah. Like, no, unfortunately I can't disagree with anything Jacob saying here, Adam.
16:36Like I just know I'm not pulling the trigger on any of these.
16:39I'm keeping chase Brown and literally everything that's been asked so far.
16:43Like I love Bucky. He's clearly better, but like, yeah, but would I rather have the bangles running back who like at
16:49any point their defense takes a step back and they're playing that four minute to hurry up offense.
16:54He's just like a elite fantasy option again. No.
16:56Okay. I'm not passing that off. How about Bucky's a great individual player.
17:00Matthew to be cleared. Oh, sorry. No, you're good.
17:02To be clear on Bucky. Like nothing changed last week.
17:05He just played the Cowboys and went nuts. Like probably.
17:08Yeah. That's probably what we'll, we'll go back and think like his role was the exact same because they were using him near the goal line.
17:15Not, not exclusively, but I think that, I mean, I could be wrong, but like, I think that that was literally just like reward Bucky for being awesome.
17:23And they at times were also using the other guys at the goal line, just like they always do.
17:28Like if you look at the situational stuff, it was basically all the exact same.
17:32So he's Basial Tootin. No Tootin gets tons of rushes around the goal line.
17:36But no, we can talk about that later. We'll talk about that later.
17:40Well, because they, cause they have a better offense or saying, but I bet.
17:44Yeah. It's there's no compartmentalized role, but Basial Tootin and Chris Rodriguez get carries around the goal line, even split.
17:49And Liam Cohen has produced two top 20 producers in terms of red zone fantasy points of running back in each of the past two seasons.
17:57Like it's fine that he splits it, but he definitely is involved.
18:00He gets tons of playing time and opportunities around the red zone, Basial Tootin.
18:04But Bucky. Yeah. I'm sorry. Bucky hadn't touched the ball inside of the 10 yard line since week one before this game,
18:10where he happened to go absolutely ham. And so they rewarded him.
18:13He didn't have a touch inside of the nine all year.
18:16And that was kind of the same thing last year.
18:19I just don't think it's the same as student at all.
18:22All right. But with one, our one edge that Bucky has over Tootin, as we've got now gone completely away from Chase
18:28Brown, Bucky Irving had 15 targets in three games with Baker Mayfield.
18:32Basial Tootin has 10 targets this season. Mm hmm.
18:34So that is and that might be something that you compare Bucky to Chase Brown.
18:38I mean, it's seven, four and four targets in three games for Bucky Irving with Baker Mayfield.
18:43They have zero and three and two games without Mayfield.
18:46All right. Two more here with Chase Brown. Golden or Chase Brown?
18:49Chase Brown. I think so. I will. I've got notes on Green Bay that I think are interesting, too.
18:54Their line has played a lot better these past two weeks and they've been able to kind of circumnavigate what's going on
19:01with the line by just really getting the ball out quick and it's working.
19:04And Golden has some Golden's been like crazy dependable week over week.
19:08It is crazy for fantasy. We don't get like there's nobody really doing anything at receiver.
19:12And the volume. The volume has shocked me for somebody who's on the outside doing so much downfield stuff.
19:17He just keeps having a 20 plus percent target every single week.
19:21He's one of like a handful of guys. He hasn't scored any of them really, but he catches like a bomb a week.
19:27Chase Brown or Gentty rest of season? That's a good one.
19:30Gosh, these two are so annoying. Yeah, they are.
19:33They really are. Gentty just saves his week every week with receiving stuff.
19:36If he doesn't get that, he's like a nightmare rushing wise.
19:39I'm going to go with Gentty. I'm just I hope that he can get healthier, but that is probably not a good guess, right?
19:46To just be like, yeah, this guy with an ankle sprain is like nursing the ankle sprain and still having to go out and play football.
19:53Right. How does it get better with one week?
19:56Yeah. Yeah. All right. We got to take a break.
19:59I think it's Chase Brown for me. Chase Brown.
20:01Yeah, I don't want to answer that because I don't know.
20:04I guess I would go with Gentty because I am a little afraid that they come out of the buy and P
20:10Ryan starts to get more work, but maybe it's tough.
20:13All right. Let's let's take a break. Come back.
20:16Give you your news and notes. We'll talk about Woody Marks and the opportunity that he has in front of him with David Montgomery week to week.
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21:06Taxes and fees may apply. How about Woody Marks?
21:08Woody Marks is longest run this year is 12 yards.
21:11That's not great. However, he had three 12 yard carries yesterday alone against Tennessee, and he also had a 24 yard touchdown
21:17run that was called back on a leave holding penalty.
21:20So a pretty good tape yesterday. I think for Woody Marks, I didn't watch all of it, but I'm watching it right now.
21:26He will have a big opportunity with David Montgomery sideline for a few weeks.
21:30That's your biggest headline right now. And obviously, uh, Woody Marks is 72% rostered.
21:34So I'm sure a lot of people are going to pick them up.
21:38Unfortunately, Jaguars this week, then the Giants, Woody Marks could be RB one that week and then the, then a buy.
21:44So still worth getting, but it's super tough matchup this week for Woody Marks.
21:47Damian Pierce might have the backfield to himself for the Eagles or practically.
21:51He had 11, he had 11 carries for 14 yards against the Jaguars.
21:55That's what Woody Marks is going up against this week.
21:57But still, uh, he gets Carolina this week. Then Dallas will ship.
22:01He's out probably a few weeks with, uh, it's Dallas.
22:04Well, it's Carolina this week. Then it's, I know, but he gets, and they're going to get a Dallas ship.
22:09He's out for a couple of weeks. Yeah. And Carolina is not a bad matchup either.
22:14They're probably going to sign somewhere. I can't imagine.
22:16They don't bring some competition and immediately. It's not like Woody marks.
22:19Hasn't been a lead running back before guys. Woody marks last year, you know, I don't know how you feel about him, but last year, yeah.
22:27Average 3.6 yards per carry. His longest run was 23 yards on 196 carries from weeks 10 through 18.
22:32He was on pace for 274 carries and 23 catches.
22:35In fact, if you remove week 15, when he left early with an injury, he was on pace for 296 catch a
22:41carries and 24 catches in that stretch, but he wasn't very good.
22:44He only scored a couple of touchdowns. So, uh, Jacob, what are your expectations for Woody marks this week against the Jacksonville Jaguars?
22:51Yeah. You're just betting on volume. You're hoping that it gets a touchdown or maybe a bunch of catches.
22:56Um, they've not really been able to run the ball very well a year.
23:00And then this match in particular, I wouldn't expect that to be the case, but, um, if he's out there all the
23:06time, yeah, he could be a volume based play that you can go to in PPR for sure.
23:11Yeah. I think, I actually think he's probably a start in all formats just based on the state of fantasy right now.
23:17You're getting a guy who's going to be one of the few workhorses on the field for weeks for a week six.
23:23In my mind, at least, um, there's nothing really else they can turn to and their offense.
23:28While they can't run the ball, it's been better.
23:30At least when Nico Collins is in the game, like CJ Stroud, I thought looked pretty damn good.
23:35He had two 40 and I thought he was, he threw some really nice passes to Noel and, and to Nico.
23:41And so there are some scoring opportunities for marks.
23:44So to me, that's like easily as borderline, probably top 12.
23:47It's probably more like 15, 16 range. Can I give you my CJ Stroud stats that I've got here on the notes while we're here?
23:54It's been good. Let me just give you one more injury note and then we'll move on to that.
23:59AJ Brown practice this week. Travion Henderson status is uncertain.
24:02And now it's time for Jacob stats. Go. Stroud has produced 200 catchable air yards in all five games this year.
24:07He's the only one to do it. He was the only one to do it through four weeks and he did it again this week.
24:14And this is new for anybody who's like, doesn't have a frame of reference for catchable air yards.
24:19Um, in 2023 is best year. He hit 200 plus in five of 15 games over the next two seasons.
24:25He hit it in only three out of 31 games.
24:28This series five for five. Interesting. And so I'm actually like really, really interested to see how this is all going to look with Houston.
24:35Cause they haven't been able to run the ball at all, but their passing game is working pretty well.
24:40Um, and Marvin Harrison jr. I think is interesting.
24:42I'm curious what his deployment will be. Um, if he does more of the, like exclusively out on the outside being kind
24:49of an X receiver, like he was in Arizona, that would be, I think awesome for Nico Collins to be able to move around more.
24:56But my expectation is you probably kind of just keep Nico in that role.
24:59Um, which then couldn't make Marv interesting. Right? Like he's, we never really seen him do anything but that role.
25:05Um, so I'm very interested to see what this right to see what this looks like.
25:09Cause there's a chance that Marvin Harrison jr. Is coming into a like profoundly different situation than the one that he's been in.
25:16Marv to me is a clear by right now, Marv Harrison jr.
25:19And people will laugh at that. They'll hear that.
25:22We like, this is just stupid. You think some guy joining an offense in the middle of the season, who's sucked because
25:28everybody just thinks he sucks because of where he was is a clear by.
25:32And I would say the answer is yes, because he gets to play with Nico Collins.
25:36He gets to play with a quarterback who Jacob just outlined is throwing, seeing the field.
25:41But to me, when I hear that stat, Jacob 200 plus or 200 catchable air yards in all of his games, to
25:47me, what that tells me is the quarterback is seeing the field better than 90 to 95% of the quarterbacks that to throw catchable air yards.
25:54It means you have to see what's going on post snap, predict it pre snap, and then do adjust the post snap
26:00rotation to be able to throw the ball into that space down the field.
26:04And he's clearly doing that at a high level right now.
26:07The offensive line is protecting him enough to allow for that.
26:10To me, Marv Harrison feels like an obvious by and could be like a potential big player down the stretch for us in fantasy.
26:17In the past, we've seen this passing game be pretty like narrowed down to one to two players.
26:22At one point it was tank Dell and Nico Collins.
26:24And we've seen that pretty much throughout Stroud's tenure as quarterback of the Texans.
26:28If that narrows down to Nico and Harrison, if they move Harrison into the slot, like they did at Ohio State to get him those.
26:35Really, I think he should be kind of their movesy or their slot guy because he can win in those tight confined
26:41areas with his release package off the line of scrimmage.
26:44Really? Yes. He's like the slowest guy on earth.
26:47He's slow vertically and breaking horizontally. He's not that slow when it comes to releasing off the line of scrimmage.
26:52Actually, that's where the best part of his game is, his release package off the line of scrimmage by far.
26:58And that's why you saw two weeks ago when he was last active against the Giants, he had that quick release and
27:04scored that touchdown because he gained separation in like a split second based on his release off the line of scrimmage.
27:10And I think a good quarterback, I don't want to say a good quarterback and say Stroud versus Bursette, but I think
27:16a quarterback can take advantage of that skill set personally.
27:19All right. I've been interested that Nico Collins hasn't had like big target share numbers just because of, I mean, he's running
27:25around next to like Kishon Booty and Xavier Hutchinson and stuff.
27:28And I think that kind of speaks to your point though, that Stroud is seeing the field well right now and is not necessarily like sticking on Nico.
27:36Like he's there when he's there, he's getting to him, but he's also getting to the other reads too.
27:41We've seen pretty even target dispersals over the past couple of weeks.
27:44Even when Nico back and Jaylen Noel getting involved.
27:47So I think that that is probably a good note for Marvin Harrison Jr.
27:51Where it's like what he's had in Arizona has been very much like very much just focused on one or two guys.
27:57And so he's often the third guy. It could be different here where he gets a lot more second.
28:02Yeah. I forget Tank Dell is on his way back to, but that will matter, but we'll see.
28:07Yeah. I think Nico Collins is a goodbye to like I said, there's a chance that Marvin Harrison Jr.
28:12does get stuck in that role where he's the sacrificial X again.
28:16And that's good for Nico and either way, Nico, like he has at least 80 catchable air yards in every game, which
28:22is a really good number for a receiver. Like this all seems very good for him.
28:26He's been steady, but we haven't really seen like a huge eruption game yet.
28:30We obviously know that that's in there. Um, so he, he's interesting to me.
28:34Obviously I'm always a little bit nervous about selling a ton for Nico because of the hamstrings, but the dude could be
28:40one of the top five scoring receivers rest away.
28:42That wouldn't surprise me at all. By the way, you're talking about Ohio state and Marvin Harrison.
28:47How about Wisconsin? Four in a row. Are they going to get, are they gonna be ranked?
28:52They got three on a gauntlet coming up. Three top 20 teams.
28:55Dan's a massive game this weekend. Wisco disco. If you're still in the chat, what up brother?
29:00We got a big one this weekend against UCLA.
29:02UCLA had a huge win against Oregon. I was rooting so hard for them to win that game.
29:07So our game would matter more. And now coming off the bi-week can Wisconsin be the underdog story.
29:12I've never in my life thought of them as that.
29:15I've always lived since I became a fan with them as a constant top 25 team.
29:20Yes, Adam. Yes. Well, I mean, they're not like there, you know, they're Wisconsin.
29:24They're, they're an underdog a lot. I mean, they play Ohio.
29:27They weren't during my entire childhood when I started rooting for them and my entire college experience.
29:31They were never an underdog story. Now they're a true underdog on ranked.
29:35No one expects anything from them. All right. See if they can do it.
29:39All right. Good luck. Good luck. So shout out, uh, shout out Braylon Allen while we're here.
29:44Yes. Wisconsin running back Braylon Allen. It looked damn good.
29:46I'll throw a few stats out there, but I'll throw it back to Jacob.
29:50Uh, a couple from ESPN Jordan love had five completions that traveled at least 30 yards in the air Sunday that tied Ben Roethlisberger.
29:57They're the only players with that many 30 plus air yard completions in a game since ESPN began tracking it in 2006.
30:03That's sweet. 20 years. So the Packers is going to let him rip.
30:07Like what else can you do on all you can't run the ball.
30:10I think they were sticking it to the bears a little bit too.
30:14For sure. But yeah, uh, that was amazing performance.
30:16Kyler Murray had, uh, had, I don't know how many scrambles he had, but he had more scrambles in any game since 2020.
30:23Thank God. And he has to do. Yeah. But again, he hasn't done it in five in six years, but he also
30:29has completed 40 of his last 48 passes. And that's again from ESPN.
30:32Yes. So I watched that entire game. I thought he looked more comfortable playing the quarterback position than I've seen from him
30:39in the last like three or four years and more comfortable by far than he looked at any point in his Vikings tenure.
30:45And I looked back and then I went back and watched just the second half of the week before because that people
30:51were telling me that was a good performance from Kyler.
30:54And I did think he started to show signs of it in the second half.
30:58Um, and then obviously he was leaning on Hawkinson who got injured in the first quarter.
31:02Um, and then just kind of found a way to, to win besides that.
31:06I'm pretty hopeful for Kyler moving forward based on what I've seen the last two weeks and had the solution.
31:12He's used his legs again to find it and create first downs.
31:15I think he's moving the offense. Well, and then that red zone touchdown to Jefferson was an absolute dime.
31:21Well, I was discussed. I mean, it was a bit of a prayer.
31:24I think I don't know how I completely disagree.
31:27I don't know. I mean, it was, I completely disagree to Adam.
31:30It was probably the best throw of his career.
31:32He made those three to Hopkins. He made those throws all the time at Oklahoma.
31:37And that's why I was excited about him as a prospect.
31:40I guess that was people would call them prayers.
31:42And I'd be like, no, that was good touch.
31:45It was harsh. Yeah. Anticipation and touch. Um, and great trajectory, the ability to throw that football there.
31:50I I'll, I'll throw that up on Twitter for, for later.
31:53I thought that was the best throw of the week.
31:56Uh, Kim Scadaboo has four fumbles. Yeah. Five games.
31:58This is insane. This is getting insane. And the saints have been so bad against running backs lately and they're super injured.
32:04Maybe they'll get healthier, but like, it'd be a, it'd be a good time to think about starting Scadaboo, but I don't
32:10even know if he's going to start. This is pathetic.
32:13Well, I was surprised yesterday. He still had 63%.
32:16And then it was 18 and 16% of the snap share for Najee and, and for Tracy.
32:20I think what the giants need to do personally, and it's gross sounding, but I think they need to activate Singletary.
32:26I think he might be one of their most effective backs somehow.
32:29What do you think about Scadaboo? I mean, do you trust, can you trust Scadaboo right now?
32:34No, of course not. The giants have averaged 2.8 yards per carry over the last two weeks.
32:39They can't get anything going on in their center.
32:41And the only time they move the balls when they let Jameis go to shotgun spread and they can actually run out of shotgun spread.
32:48They just haven't really, their old line's not blocking.
32:51Well, Scadaboo is not the red zone focal point that he was with dart.
32:55There's no, the backside of runs like no one, I mean, no one on any backside run I've seen has respected the quarterback's ability to keep the ball.
33:02So just crashing down. There's just, there's no involvement really in the past game.
33:06They're not trying to get him involved. What is he at this point for fantasy?
33:11Scadaboo or Hampton rest of season? LOL. Hampton. What is either one of them?
33:14Yeah. Hampton's nothing too, I guess. So I guess they're both, they're both, they're both bad.
33:19I don't even know if I could say Hampton.
33:21But Scadaboo's dominating touches. For now. If they can overlook the fumbles.
33:25The four fumbles, including one that just cost them a win.
33:28But yes. Um, I got one more stat. I got more, but I'll, I'll cede, uh, my, my turn here.
33:33But if you're talking about usage, which you guys all often do, you know, I don't know that any quote unquote must
33:39start guy had worse usage in week five than Jeremiah love.
33:42He was started in 92% of leagues. He has played fewer than half the snaps in four or five games.
33:48He barely played on third down yesterday. He played eight snaps.
33:51Jeremiah love played eight snaps in the second half.
33:54And we thought that type of game script would be perfect.
33:57Jeremiah love. I thought we were living and waiting for that game script.
34:00Now it's like, oh no, we got to that game script and they're not even using him.
34:05It's the second time. It's the second time. We too.
34:08Also they lost by 24. He played seven. The second half.
34:11They're at the Rams this week. They could get killed again.
34:14Jacob. Well, he told us last week, he's tired.
34:16He's really tired. And just like that's what love said after the game.
34:20And I, they're trying to keep him fresh for the season for the really important season where they're one in what four right now.
34:27Um, yeah. All right, Jacob, uh, back to you.
34:29Yeah. So just to build off a few things that you talked about, Kyler Murray at seven scrambles in this game, which
34:35was up from six and the previous three games combined.
34:38Nice. So that's what you want to see. In addition to what you guys talked about getting the ball quick passing looked good.
34:44Um, Drake and a, you talked about new England, AJ Brown coming back sometime soon.
34:49Drake may had 304 catchable air yards this week, which was second.
34:52Um, week four, he had 288. So that's a huge bounce back for me.
34:56Um, the weeks before that, he had 172, 168 and 126 in week one.
35:00So love to see that. King is back, baby.
35:02Love to see it. He just lost his left tackle now.
35:05So great. That's true. Um, yeah, that's true. We don't know how long there they've already had to have so many injuries on their own one.
35:12Braylon Allen was charted as gaining 102 out of his 110 rushing yards after first contact.
35:17What a beast. Awesome. Curious. If you think that we will get even more of a split than we had seen in the past when three saw back.
35:25I asked that last night on the recap show and to Jamie, he was, he wasn't too concerned.
35:30I think I, I one more game and I'm going to be really concerned about it.
35:34Uh, it definitely crossed my mind. I think he's earned it.
35:37You know, he's, he's playing really well. I don't really believe in Braylon Allen that much to be honest.
35:42I think like, look at his career. He hasn't really been that good.
35:46This was a freaking great game for him though.
35:49So, but, but at the same time, like look at Brees Hall week one, good against the Titans.
35:54The next two games couldn't run at all. So I, I kind of am worried about it.
35:58Like I don't, I don't value Brees Hall quite the same as I did before yesterday.
36:03And if it happens one more time, I'm going to really be nervous about it.
36:07Cause cause Allen could easily be the goal line back.
36:10I saw after the game that the, the first game, not that it matters, but like I was watching on Twitter, the
36:16first game ball that Glenn gave out, Aaron Glenn was to Braylon Allen.
36:19And I just feel like they felt like he was set the tone for them.
36:24I don't think he gets phased out. I think, I don't think he's going to have a like lead back role or anything, but any roles bad on.
36:31He was already taking red zone work. Right. Um, on the Packers, they only allowed one quick pressure.
36:36I think they only allowed one pressure overall in week four had an average time to throw of 2.2 seconds in week four.
36:43So I think that that was a clear reaction to what had been happening.
36:47What we saw the previous week on prime time, um, had a sort of long week to plan that out.
36:52Um, this week against the bears, it was again, one of the lowest quick pressure rates, 11%.
36:57And each of the first three games, their quick pressure rate was 20% or higher.
37:01So when I say quick pressure, that's a pressure that was occurring in 2.5 seconds or less.
37:06Um, I said, their time to throw is 2.2 seconds of week four last week.
37:10It was 2.4 seven. So again, they're like beating that quick pressure threshold.
37:14They're getting the ball up quick, even with what Adam said, which is that they're pushing the ball down the field.
37:19I think that's a really good combination that speaks to good planning, um, in terms of the offensive design.
37:25And I just want to point this out. Uh, so per the fantasy points data suite, they have this tool where you can look at like player comps.
37:32Um, and it dates back to 2021. And so it's just like recent comps who have like similar, um, stats.
37:38You can play with it and choose whatever stats you want.
37:41Um, so like expected fantasy points, average depth of target, how often the player is lining up at this slot, all sorts of stuff.
37:48You can even do really specific stuff, like what types of routes they're running and stuff like that.
37:53Um, using their query, they're just nine that they preset for you.
37:56Uh, Christian Watson's closest statistical comp is 2021 Jamar chase.
37:59And it's been like that all year long. I mean, if you look at the dude, like he's just, he's just printing for fantasy.
38:06There was one down week, but, um, he's top five in points scored.
38:09He's averaging over three yards per up run. And it's, I mean, going into the year, I was like, what if this
38:15guy who's all the guy who's always been his like really near the top of the league in terms of efficiency, even
38:21with a really low target rate, he's been very, very, very good on a yard per route run rate, even with a low target per route run rate.
38:29What if that target per route run rate increases?
38:32And we're basically seeing that because of the injury to Jane Reed.
38:35And then also just them wanting to emphasize him as target per route run rate is up to 24%.
38:40Um, he also grades out as 90th percentile in their average separation score.
38:44So we're getting lots of targets. We're getting more design targets, short targets, in addition to the deep targets and the red zone targets.
38:51I don't know, like maybe it changes because of Josh Jacobs or something.
38:54Maybe Christian Watson doesn't make it through the season or something.
38:57But like right now this looks like a top, like eight receiver on a week to week basis in terms of just what you're getting, what you're projecting.
39:05This was the first week where golden Watson and craft all scored double digit PPR fantasy points.
39:10Craft had five catches for 64 yards on five targets, but the one time Watson didn't do well was a craft game.
39:16Craft had six for 42 and a touchdown on seven targets in week four.
39:20So that might happen from time to time, but at the end of the year, probably going to look good.
39:25Uh, all right. Anything else before we go to break?
39:28For sure. Brock Bowers leads the tight end position, pending money net football, don't kick a capacity that Adam.
39:33Brock Bowers leads the tight end position in catchable air yards on the year.
39:37And he's only played three games. Wow. So make that bad Adam.
39:41What did we put on the line? Cause I'm winning.
39:43I don't think we put a bet. I don't think you're lucky.
39:47We didn't. There's not a chance in hell that McBride outscores Bowers rest of way.
39:51There is a chance. I mean, Oh no, there's no chance.
39:54There is definitely a chance. I'm just being a jerk.
39:57Uh, Brock Bowers has at least 74 catchable air yards in every game this year.
40:01Uh, training Brides single game high is 71. If you look around the league, there's like a handful of other games that
40:07have been above 70 catchable air yards at the tight end position.
40:10Bowers has done in every single game. It's like really a unique role in terms of like obviously all the targets and
40:16everything, but also there's, there's upside with it. It's like a, it's like a receiver role.
40:21I know that that is like kind of obvious if you watch Bowers, but it's just like, he's different than all the tight ends for sure.
40:28Because these aren't just areas. These are catch where it's the office is actually working.
40:32And so it's the idea that we've always had with Bowers is here.
40:36Andy looks healthy. He's creating some stuff too. Um, he's top five in the NFL in first three target rate.
40:41He passed CD lamb this past week. So on the year he's top five and first read target rate too.
40:47The office is completely funneled through him. Can I talk about baseball to in a little bit?
40:52Yeah, but let's say we have to take a break.
40:54Come back and talk about baseball toot. And we've got to talk about the bears, uh, the bears offense offenses that we hate.
41:01And was it? Oh, Mike Evans after this on fantasy football today.
41:04All right. Bay, is all toot. And what do we need to know about him?
41:08So the usage just keeps getting better and better and better.
41:11Um, he's really not, he, at least in week five, he didn't really split the backfield.
41:16He had 90, he had 20 of 22 running back runs.
41:19So the first three games, the percentage of running back runs was like 60%.
41:23And then week four is 74%. And then last week it was 92%.
41:26So he's really, I think earned a large share of the backfield.
41:30If you look, um, this is obvious, obviously a specific split.
41:33I used 60 plus as the threshold just for facial toot.
41:36But here are the players with 60 or more rushing yards in every game this year.
41:40Derek Henry, B. John Robinson, Kenneth Walker, facial toot to 60 or more rushing yards.
41:44Every game he's creating yards after contact and avoiding tons of tackles.
41:48And it's just been something that they can rely on, even though their run game last year was really rough down the stretch, um, in Jacksonville.
41:55And I think the run blocking has just not been great.
41:58Um, toot and if you look at yards after contact leaders, it's like 80 plus percent of his yards are coming after contact proportionally.
42:05It's way different than the other guys. Like he's, he has very, ashton, jet is the only thing that's close and tune has way better stats.
42:12Um, but gent is the only thing that comes close in terms of like, this guy's not getting hardly any yards before contact.
42:18Maybe that's a tune thing, but I think it's just the offense has kind of struggled in the run game outside of
42:24a few well-designed plays that get yards before contact.
42:27Otherwise they're sort of struggling. If you look at runs where the running back got to the line, they were not hit behind the line of scrimmage.
42:34His success rate is like at the very top.
42:37It's in the same range as Javante Williams, James Cook, Kyron Williams, like the most dependable guys.
42:42Um, the only backs that are definitively ahead of him in that metric are Gibbs and Kenneth Walker.
42:47So I think, I think it's very clear that Basil Tootin is really good.
42:51The problem is, well, a lot of people don't even agree with that.
42:54I think he's, I think he's really good and I'm excited about him.
42:58I'm hoping he has a terrible game this week against the Texans and then goes into a buy.
43:03And then I'm going to send out a hundred by low.
43:06Well, you know, as many by low offers as I can.
43:09However, I have to point out all these good things you're saying about Basil Tootin.
43:13He has scored fewer fantasy points than Chase Brown.
43:16He is RB 17 right now, I believe. Like 20 points called back from penalty.
43:20He's got 10 targets. He's got 10 targets. He splits the goal line work.
43:24They don't run a lot of plays. I think that'll hopefully change, but it's possible that Basil Tootin, the player is better than Basil Tootin, the fantasy asset.
43:31I'm in on Basil Tootin, but I don't want to overrate him because he is a little bit of a trap back.
43:37Doesn't catch passes and splits goal line work. So we have a larger sample size of Liam Cohen running backs being fricking awesome for fantasy though.
43:45I mean, Travis Etienne, Travis Etienne went nuts in fantasy.
43:47He's like running back seven or something last year.
43:50I get it, but like it's, it's not really happening right now for Tootin because he has 10 targets in five games.
43:56That's what I'm saying though is it's right now it's five games.
43:59They drop back to pass like 25 times per game.
44:02That seems just kind of weird and random. All right.
44:05So what's going to change for him? What's going to get better?
44:08I think just more play volume, more scoring from the offense.
44:11And then I also think that the short yardage stuff, people get really annoyed because when we're watching on Sunday morning, we
44:17see Amir Abdullah in there, which by the way, played like two snaps all game.
44:22And it is kind of annoying that those happen to be the snaps at the goal line.
44:26Um, it's a weird offense. They're using three or four different running backs in the red zone.
44:31And when I say using they're on the field, they're really only using.
44:35Using two in the red zone though, in terms of giving them the ball and it's to an increase Rodriguez.
44:40Um, there's no clear one though. Both of them are getting the ball.
44:44Um, tune has, they have the same amount of snaps and touches from inside the five with tune having two touchdowns.
44:50So Chris Rodriguez is one. And tune has one more carry than Rodriguez from inside the 10.
44:54So like in close, it's very similar between those two guys.
44:57It's not like they bring Rodriguez in all the time.
45:00They just do that sometimes, which to me is fine.
45:03It's not ideal, but there's lots of running backs that are still really good for fantasy.
45:07Yeah. If tune would have scored one or both of the touchdowns that he got called back in week four, I think
45:14we'd be really, really, really happy with him. He'd be like a top 10 running back with good usage that just got
45:20like 24 touches or whatever he got in week five.
45:22You know, like I think we just feel awesome.
45:25Um, and instead of, yeah, I know, but a lot of people don't.
45:29So instead of the, instead I think is a clear by low, maybe you can wait until after the Houston game.
45:34But at the same time, it's like, if he's going to get 20 touches every game and we believe that this office
45:41can put points up on anybody and lots of offices have put points up on Houston.
45:45It could be this week, you know, it could be any week is kind of how I feel with dude.
45:51The last thing I want to point out is he's been very, very good in short yardage situations for what it's worth.
45:57Um, so over the past two seasons, he has a 79% success rate on runs that required three or a few fewer yards to get a first down.
46:04We're just running back three out of 55 qualifiers.
46:07Chris Rodriguez is also good running back 14, but like tune's been really good at that.
46:11I don't think we have any evidence that suggests like he's going to lose short yardage work or anything like that.
46:17I think his coach just really likes to use multiple guys in the red zone area, likes to feel really smart with
46:23all the cool creative stuff that he does. And sometimes that's good for tune and sometimes it ends up being somebody else.
46:29And that's kind of annoying, but I think over the course of the full season, we're going to feel really good with tune if he stays healthy.
46:37Okay. I do feel good. I think he's a buy for sure.
46:40I didn't mean to, to, uh, you know, say otherwise, um, just throwing out the numbers there.
46:45All right. Um, good more. I just want to show just shout out Jalen Warren.
46:49The dude's averaging 163 scrimmage yards over his past three games, 163.
46:52The only guys who have more scrimmage yards per game this year are Kenneth Walker, Jameer Gibson, B.
46:57John Robinson. That's all crazy. He's awesome. Uh, a few more things for me, Jacoby.
47:02I want to talk about Jacoby Myers. You're looking at just like a random by low.
47:06I don't know if he is one, but he, he runs a ton of routes.
47:10Brian Thomas jr. Is just not a factor. Brenton strange has been good two weeks in a row, but Jacoby Myers, Jacoby
47:16Myers has had a 21% target share or higher six straight seasons.
47:20Right now it's 13%. I wonder if you're doing a trade, throw them in.
47:24No one cares. Like people are going to start dropping him, maybe pick them up, put them on your bench.
47:29You might be able to produce, you know, two at every three weeks or something like that.
47:34I don't know. Um, Dallas Goddard ran two thirds of the routes coming back from injury.
47:38He ran almost 80% of the routes in week one.
47:41So I expect more routes in week six against the Panthers and his target share has been 23% and 24% in his two healthy games.
47:48He had a huge target per route run rate.
47:51If Dallas Goddard plays and either Saquon Barkley or Devante Smith, it doesn't in week five.
47:55Then I think he's going to be really good.
47:57Kendrick Bourne. I know people are going to think, Oh, Marvin Harrison's gone.
48:01Kendrick Bourne. There's some merit to that, but their schedule is about to get really tough.
48:06Kendrick Bourne only ran 62% of the routes. He did have a 24% target per outrun rate.
48:10I think that route rate could go up. He ran 77% of the routes in week one, but pointing that out on Kendrick Bourne.
48:17I don't, I don't know how much I can buy in.
48:20I think it's like a two receiver league. I'm not, I'm not picking them up.
48:24Uh, Jeremy Bernard played 92% of the snaps and he had six catches for 80 yards on nine targets for the Steelers.
48:30Uh, Omarion Hampton ran two routes. And Wilson's going to be out now, by the way.
48:35Yeah. Wilson's out for a bit. And Jeremy Bernard, like he's not to, I don't know if you guys watched, he's not
48:41that impressive to me on tape, but maybe I'm missing something.
48:44I think I really like Jeremy. He's weird. I like Jeremy a lot too.
48:48Um, he looks speed from him and he doesn't really have that.
48:51He's not fast. He looks slow. Yeah. But he's also, I mean, it's, this isn't, it's like a Robert.
48:56This isn't right, but he's like a Harold Fannin at the wider zero position.
49:00Okay. Okay. Very weirdly hard to tackle. Um, Omarion Hampton ran two routes.
49:04He has six targets this season. And then this is concerning.
49:07Just looking at the first half when Kenyon Sadiq was healthy.
49:10Cause he got hurt. I think in the third quarter, Kenyon Sadiq ran 19% of the routes.
49:15Mason Taylor ran 75% of the routes. So I don't think I can sit here and tell you to hang on to Kenyon Sadiq.
49:21No. All right. We'll go to our big topics.
49:24Now we already knocked out chase Brown. Let's knock out the bears passing game.
49:28Will Caleb Williams save the bears pass catchers? Hopefully he plays this week.
49:31They are at Atlanta. Dan, is this the savior for these bears pass catchers that we've been looking for?
49:37I think so. I think we got derailed a little bit after week one where they went off 59 points, had a
49:43weird rainy wet game against Brian floors in week two.
49:46Yeah. And then Caleb got hurt in that game.
49:48So we really don't know that it's not the case right now.
49:51What we know is the case is that the bears offensive line is still phenomenal and relatively healthy.
49:56I think compared to the rest of the NFL, the pass catchers are all healthy and have looked good at individual moments
50:02with two backup quarterbacks and Keenum and, um, Baygent.
50:05And so if Caleb Williams can get back to playing the football he was playing, which was decisive, he had commanded the line of scrimmage.
50:12He understood what was going on. There's a chance that they could still do what Ben Jensen Johnson set out to do,
50:18which is like, like break records and set numbers in the passing game.
50:22And not just a passing game, but from a total point scored.
50:25And there are cracks now being shown in the bears defense, which I expected sooner.
50:29It happened this week. They don't really have the town.
50:32They've had a lot of injuries on the defense side of the ball.
50:36So it's shaping up to me. Like we could be looking at an explosive offense over the, you know, over the course
50:42of time when Caleb comes back, I have been trying to buy on Rome.
50:46I've been trying to buy on all three of these guys, Loveland, not as much, but on the, on the other two for sure.
50:52What do you think they're like mid to the late season schedule gets really nice.
50:56Um, so I'm, I'm into buying all of them, honestly, including Loveland.
51:00Um, Loveland just continues to be for whatever reason, just the most cursed unlucky player in fantasy football this year.
51:05It's so cool. Um, I've got a group of 10 players who had the lowest catchable target rates in week five, minimum of five targets.
51:12Um, there were 10 guys who had a catchable target rate of 67% or lower and three of them were bears.
51:18They're on the screen right now. Loveland's was 40%.
51:21I think you look at the Falcons without panics for the first two games and you can just say like the season
51:27started for them in week three and they are now we know what to expect as long as panics is healthy.
51:32And you could maybe say the season's going to start in week six for the bears week two.
51:37I can kind of throw it out because of what Dan said, the weather, the floor is thing.
51:42Week one was crazy. I don't think I expect 59 points.
51:46Now let's see what they're really about. My questions are going to be this.
51:49What is Cleve Raymond's role? He's been pretty invisible for two straight games, but the first three games, he was annoying.
51:55He was a thorn in the side. Um, he hasn't been running as many routes the last couple of weeks and, but he's still out there.
52:02It's not like a huge change. He is still out there.
52:06Yeah, he is. As Caleb Williams going to target him to what is Caleb Williams health?
52:10How much is he going to run? How mobile is he going to be coming back from this hamstring injury?
52:16This could go either way for them. It could one just make him a less effective player, less, uh, you know, less
52:22prone to make those big plays on broken plays running around.
52:25Like when week one, he had a 40 something yard throw to Roma Dunzey where he escaped the pocket and hit the Dunzey downfield.
52:31Like, is he going to be able to do that?
52:34But the other thing is, it looked like he wanted to be more of a rusher just based on the first two years, two games.
52:41He had nine carries in week one last year is about four or five pretty much every week.
52:46He had five carries in week two left with an injury, had about a half a quarter left if I recall.
52:52So maybe he won't run as much. Maybe he'll just throw more.
52:55Um, I could see that going either way, but I hope he's, you know, healthy and not coming back too soon.
53:01Uh, but I'm generally optimistic. I think the bears are going to score a lot of points.
53:06I don't, I think it still could be frustrating for fantasy if the con, if the targets aren't concentrated, um, between those three guys.
53:12So I think it's still a bit of a mystery.
53:15And if I had to rank them rest of season, I would put Loveland last.
53:19I think I'd put, I'd put burden first. Cause so dunes.
53:22Yeah. I'd go bird and Odunze Loveland. How about you?
53:25I guess I'd go first burden Loveland. Odunze. I think they're all good buys.
53:29I think the running backs are really good buys.
53:32If we're including them in terms of like, which ones are the best buys.
53:36I think Swift is probably up there among the top ones, if not the top, the best buy.
53:41I think these two offices we've talked about here recently are both really good buys the bears for obvious reasons.
53:46And then the Jaguars, I think they just haven't quite performed up to what they could do.
53:51Um, these have been, I mean, other than like Kyle Shanahan and like what's going on in Dallas, these have pretty much
53:57been the, the two most in Detroit, the two most productive, uh, play designers, play callers for fantasy football over the past three years.
54:04It's just played a couple of really tough defenses too.
54:06Yeah. So to me, like, I think it's totally fair to bet on these offices being top three, top five, top eight,
54:12at least because that in terms of fantasy points produced as a whole, right.
54:16Because that's what they've been with these coordinators in the past.
54:19Um, and both offices are interesting because we, especially Jacksonville, like there's a lot of different pieces.
54:24And so because of that uncertainty, other than Parker Washington, nobody really feels that much confidence in any of them.
54:30But I think Jacobi Myers is a good player to have on your roster.
54:34Like you can put them in, in a pinch and then like, what if something happened?
54:38What if something were to happen to Parker Washington?
54:41Who was out there making heroic plays all the time?
54:43You know what I mean? Now it could be like a 25% target share for Jacobi in Jacksonville's offense.
54:49You know what I mean? Like same thing with the bears, that same type of potential exists, the contingent upside.
54:54And I just think these are great offices to buy.
54:57All right. Next topic is, should we sell high on this player?
55:00This player who has by far a career high explosive play rate, a career high catch rate way above his career average
55:06career high in yak per catch career high 3.05 yards per outrun.
55:10By the way, he's what? 33 years old, 32 or 33 years old.
55:13He hasn't ran 80% of the routes in a game yet.
55:16He's Mike Evans. Should we sell high? Playing for two broken ribs.
55:20Yeah. He's right. Should we sell high on Mike Evans?
55:22It's seriously crazy watching him right now. He's so good at football.
55:26Well, I'm just saying like every, every time they show him without his helmet on, he looks like he's excruciating pain.
55:32So much pain. Yeah. He's playing for two broken ribs.
55:34Oh yeah. Those aren't going to heal, but I would not sell.
55:38Sorry. He legitimately did not know who that it was Trayvon Diggs.
55:41He said, so he made him turn around to see who it was.
55:45Yeah. And I like how it was like Trayvon Diggs was whining because I was blocking him too hard.
55:50Like dude, that's your fault, not his. And I would never trade Evans.
55:54Evans was on my bold predictions, uh, preseason pod, which is getting flamed and rightfully so for the most devastating call of my career in a Marion Hampton.
56:01But I just can't even get over how bad that is and how bad the chargers are.
56:06But Evans isn't bad. Whenever Evans plays, he's awesome.
56:09As I predicted he would be. I don't even think we've hit the tip of the iceberg yet.
56:14Like they don't like I don't because I think every week they're finding new ways to get him the football and it's
56:20not just vertical, which hasn't even really been there yet this season.
56:23He put he has a big plays in the, in the offensive playbook or in the red zone and around the red zone.
56:29He said two plays where he's caught it like inside the five yard line, been knocked out of bounds.
56:35Those could have been touchdowns as well. So I would not sell him.
56:38I mean, if you're selling him, you're just like, oh, it's because he's going to get injured.
56:43If that's the case and you're just trying to predict injury, go ahead, sell him.
56:47Did you sell him for Chase Brown? What'd you say?
56:50Chase Brown. I weirdly still like Chase Brown. Okay.
56:52I just can't give up on Chase Brown yet.
56:55But so we just put a comment on the screen.
56:58Bro is Robocop about Mike Evans. There's no way Dan, like, does Dan even know who Robocop is?
57:03I've heard Robocop. I've heard the name Robocop. Don't really know.
57:06Is it Schwarzenegger? I feel like. No, no. Feels like a Schwarzenegger type movie.
57:10He's Robocop. Who's Robocop? Peter Weller is Robocop. That doesn't strike any bells for me.
57:14I don't, I wouldn't have no idea who that was.
57:17No, but you don't even know the movie. I know it's like a Robocop.
57:21Yeah. You know? Well said. Perfect. I would trade, I would trade, I would trade Evans if you get something that you feel good about.
57:27I mean, I don't want to just give him away.
57:30I don't want to, you know, to Dan's point, like just predict injury.
57:34Cause we don't know. Maybe like a season, but it does look like it's pretty painful for him every game to be out there.
57:41Um, and he was dealing with a lot of stuff, lower body to going into the season, right?
57:46It's not just the ribs. Um, and he is 33.
57:48So like, that's, that's fair to me. Um, people are like talking about AJ Brown over and over like AJ Brown coming
57:54back is going to just light the league on fire and everything.
57:58And I think he could, I'm really curious to see what it's going to look like when AJ Brown gets back.
58:04I bring this up though, because like somebody made this point to me before the season that I had AJ Brown ranked
58:10too high because there had like literally never been a receiver his age to do what I was expecting him to do
58:16based off of like his previous seasons to like outproduce those seasons at his age.
58:20Um, and I was like, well, it just feels like he could, it feels like the circumstances are so good for him
58:26that he could, like, I don't want to be that guy and just like bet against what history is clearly telling us.
58:32Um, and then we immediately get the reason like why that so often probably is the case that that receiver doesn't outproduce
58:38that solely into the career is because your body doesn't hold up.
58:42Right. Um, maybe it's a fluke thing with AJ Brown.
58:44I don't know. I don't know. Maybe. I don't care at all about age anymore.
58:49I don't care. I don't. I mean, look, Devante Adams, Devante Adams, Derek Henry.
58:52I mean, Samashi T. Ryan, um, it's like 31.
58:55I just, you know, look as I'm, I'm 42 now.
58:58I've been doing this show since 2009. Things have changed.
59:01I mean, medical science is different. Guys are coming back from torn Achilles in nine months.
59:05It just doesn't matter anymore. Was it less for a kiddo?
59:08Way less. Whatever it was. Like it, it doesn't matter.
59:11This used to be, if I, if he had torn his Achilles in 2009 at his age, his career probably would have been over.
59:17It doesn't matter anymore. I don't care about age.
59:20These old guys are doing fine. Young guys get hurt all the time.
59:24Right. So I, I just like, I don't care about age anymore.
59:27The best guys are good. The best values right now are like Henry Adams.
59:31Like all the guys, you can't draft them. They're too old.
59:34They're all like the best values as always. Like once again, Derek Henry goes underdrafted.
59:38It's like a Henry and George Kittle guys. I know, but it's not, it's also Mike Evans.
59:43Like Mike Evans is a legend. Okay. But these are like the two best athletes I've watched.
59:47True. I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that.
59:50Yeah. Like 20 years. But Evans is still on guardable.
59:53Still one of the few unguardable players. You cannot really match up against.
59:56I think Evans is going to be great when he's healthy.
59:59I'm just saying I'm a little nervous about it.
60:02And if I could get something, a parallel move that's 27 years old instead of 33, I would absolutely do it.
60:08I don't even know what parallel moves are left though.
60:11That's the problem. There's so few good receivers that like Adam's point.
60:14He's not even, he's like wide receiver 18 right now.
60:17Yeah. No, I think that's, to Dan's point, I think it could be a lot better.
60:21Right. I think that's realistic. And to Adam's point about, you know, all the efficiency stuff being the best it's ever been.
60:27It's like, well, yeah, he's playing with freaking Brock Purdy and Kyle Shanahan.
60:31Which is what we said. And he's wide receiver 18 only Adam.
60:34Cause he had the game where he was playing hurt or like left it with the injury or whatever.
60:39That's kind of true. But he also just doesn't run that many routes.
60:43I mean, I did this with Luther burden and you know, a couple of two weeks ago, Luther burden doesn't run 80%
60:49of the routes and Mike Evans hasn't reached that yet either.
60:52Last year, the only top 12 wide receiver, I think per game that ran fewer than 80% of the routes when they
60:58were healthy, not for like the full year, you know, Devante.
61:01No, it was, um, it was a Puka. And Puka had a few games where he like left early with the injury.
61:07When he's at his best, he's playing 88, 89% of the routes.
61:11So it's, it's rare to do it, to be top 12.
61:14He doesn't have to be top 12 right now.
61:16He's 18th. He's got the same amount of points per game as Drake London.
61:20Who's obviously better than him. Justin Jefferson, who I think we'd take over him.
61:24Um, he's just ahead of Malik neighbors, George Pitt.
61:27He's ahead of George Pickens, you know? Um, but like Devante Smith is actually averaging more fantasy points per game than Mike Evans.
61:33Who'd rather have rest of season? Who knows what to expect from Philly.
61:37Like one of the stats I was going to give you earlier is that they dropped back way more.
61:4242 dropbacks. Hertz only has six games of 40 plus dating back to 2024.
61:46Uh, they were third in pass rate over expectation week five.
61:49And that was a game where they didn't have Devante Smith, you know?
61:52So like it's possible if they just can't run the ball at all, but this is just what their offense is now,
61:59which could be good for Devante Smith. I would assume your plan would be to try to get him as many quick targets as possible.
62:06If this is, if you're like a crappy version of the Packers is where you're at now, um, as an offense, then
62:12like you probably want to get Devante Smith, a bunch of those looks.
62:15Uh, yeah. And there's one thing that, that hurts is still doing, you know, a great job with, was, is the downfield throws.
62:22We saw that with Cooper. That was a great throw by him, a dime.
62:26Why don't we go to the offenses that suck?
62:28Because the Eagles. Yeah. They're one of them. They're 28th and scoring.
62:31Um, all they do is go three and out.
62:34Which offenses do we avoid rest of season? Eagles.
62:36No. Yeah. Yeah. What do you mean? No. A hundred percent starting Goddard.
62:40I just told you 30% target share or something last week.
62:43Oh no. 30% target run rate, whatever, but fine.
62:46Enjoy that. I mean, he's fine. Borderline top 12 play.
62:48I suppose you're starting Smith. Cause there's nothing at receiver.
62:51I mean, you're still starting these guys hurts. I don't know if you're definitely starting.
62:55Think about, think about the Eagles, the 28th and scoring and the team that's 29th and scoring the Broncos and think about
63:01how many more startable players we have on the Eagles than the Broncos.
63:05You could consider Jalen hurts. You can't even consider Bo Nix right now.
63:09I'd much rather have Devante Smith and Jalen Waddle.
63:11I'd much rather have Saquon Barkley than any running back.
63:14I'd much rather have Dallas Goddard than Evan Ingram.
63:16So the Eagles are a problem and they've had a pretty easy schedule and their schedule is super easy going forward, like for the foreseeable future.
63:24That's true. They have an easy schedule. The Broncos.
63:26I haven't looked at that. I don't even know what to do with the Broncos.
63:30Like they got Seattle on Thursday this week. I feel like I need to take the time to watch like two hours
63:36of Broncos tape because I have no idea what's going on with that offense.
63:40Well then what's the problem? Their O-line is still great and there's no injuries.
63:44Is it just all Bo Nix? You know what the problem is.
63:47I know, but I thought he was getting better.
63:50I don't think they have a lot of talent outside Jalen Waddle.
63:53That's not a good excuse. When your O-line's fine and you don't have injuries and you have a Waddle, you should be fine.
64:00They're fine, those guys. When the O-line's as good as it's supposed to be for the Broncos, I always blame it on the quarterback.
64:06It's never the receiver's fault in my mind. Okay.
64:09Get the ball out. Figure it out. Process the field and get it into space.
64:13People are, they're professionals running routes. And Waddle's good.
64:16You going to start Jalen Waddle Thursday night against Seattle?
64:18I want to, but I might have to. Would you rather start Woody Marks against Jacksonville or Jalen Waddle?
64:24Woody Marks. You know what I want to research?
64:26Marks might have more targets. I want to research when the Broncos play Thursday night home games, if defenses really struggle on a short week in the altitude.
64:34In the altitude. Yeah, sure. I want to see if that's a thing.
64:37Sample size of that's going to be like two games.
64:40Offenses that we want to avoid rest of the season that come to mind for me.
64:45Yeah. I have more hope than you guys do, or I guess than you might add them in the Broncos, so I
64:51won't put them on the list, but I think that's fair.
64:54They're like, they're on the list right now. They could come out of the list, but right now, I don't want to.
65:00I just think they could at least get better with a good O-line.
65:04But it's only Waddle, right? Like, they, you know.
65:06Yeah, I just mean more so like the offenses, I think, aren't going to score a lot of points and they're going
65:12to just be in these constant, like, 10 to 17 scoring games.
65:16Titans. Eagles. Eagles for sure. Eagles for sure. Okay.
65:18How could it not be? Have you seen the last two weeks of...
65:22Because they're playing their schedule. Their schedule's so good.
65:24Okay, what is it? They've got Washington and Dallas coming up.
65:27Washington is not good. Washington can play defense and they will play defense really well.
65:31Dallas, Washington, Giants. No, you're wrong. Giants will be able to handle that.
65:35Washington's giving up the... Are you kidding me with Washington?
65:38Washington's giving up the second most fantasy points. There's only one quarterback that hasn't scored 30 fantasy points against Washington.
65:43It was Daniel Jones. Yes. And that strategy, I think, will work against the Eagles.
65:47That's my personal opinion. The Eagles offensive line is terrible.
65:50We'll see if I'm wrong. When we get to that game, I want to see if Jalen Hurts and the Eagles offense lights it up.
65:57Because I'm very curious. We'll do fine. Did you think the Giants lit it up yesterday?
66:02They didn't light it up. Yeah, they threw for 303 TDs.
66:05That's lighting it up. But they didn't even play that well.
66:08But Washington is so bad. All right, fine. Eagles, we don't agree on the Eagles.
66:12Which offenses do we agree on? Okay. Titans. Titans for sure.
66:15Right? Giants. Who? Neighbors, likely, I guess. But I'm nervous about the Giants.
66:19I'm very nervous. I can't believe you guys would say that.
66:22Thank you, Jacob. Thank you. Are they going to keep Jameis in there, man?
66:26Yes. Do you know who has the number one EPA over the last two weeks among all quarterbacks?
66:31Jameis Winston. Oh, who'd he play? Who'd he play this past week?
66:34That's expected points added per play. Who'd he play the last two weeks?
66:37I'm getting just like tired. I don't understand where people are at with Jameis.
66:41Because I've just watched the last two games and he's made more big time throws than I saw for an entire period of football in 2020 and 2021.
66:49All right. Literally. He played Arizona. He played Arizona.
66:5234 games of watching tape of Daniel Jones in those two years.
66:55And he got an overtime game to boost it, too.
66:58Who cares about the overtime game? I think he's going to be good this week.
67:02And then after that, I'm very worried about Jameis.
67:04It wasn't an EPA per play, right? You gave us a total EPA stat?
67:08No, it was just total EPA. Yeah. Okay. So he got an overtime.
67:12He got like more football. So then let's say he was five or six or eight.
67:16It's still better. It's still pretty good. Even if it's not one, it's let's knock it down a couple pegs to five
67:22or whatever you want to take off the overtime here.
67:25But I mean, this is not like I don't know what is going on with what people are thinking.
67:31Forget about that. Which teams are you worried about offensively?
67:33Eagles? Titans? It's just crazy to me. The guy's throwing so many big time throws.
67:37All right. Versus the rest of the field of the NFL.
67:41Also, he got lucky because there was a bogus pass interference call.
67:44He threw an interception in the end zone. They called a stupid pass interference on the commanders.
67:49Gave the Giants a second chance and then threw another touchdown.
67:52There's bad calls every week. You think he's the only one that benefited from that?
67:56That was an interception in the end zone that ended up being a touchdown for them.
68:00I've just seen a lot of good throws. 47 drawbacks per game over the past two games.
68:05Right. But I think you've got to factor in schedule.
68:08Which is not sustainable. You're right, Jacob. But it's also not sustainable than run the football.
68:12They were averaging 2.8 yards per carry. How long is their right tackle?
68:16That's why I'm worried. How long is Luminor out?
68:18Bo looked fine in his couple weeks. No, he actually looked fine.
68:22He stinks. I'm going to do a cut up now of Bo after this podcast.
68:26You walked right out of the gate. You and your blue and red colored glasses.
68:30No, this is BS, dude. They threw for 576 and 6 over the last two weeks.
68:34Teams take months to do that. The Eagles aren't going to do that for a full month.
68:39If they played Arizona and Washington, they probably would.
68:42But go ahead. All right. So we won't include.
68:44We're debating on that one. Broncos, Chargers. Where are we at with the Saints?
68:48What? Saints? I love the Saints. What do you mean, what?
68:51Saints? Saints are like the Giants, kind of. But they just played the Vikings.
68:55They'll be fine. What do you mean? They looked awful against the Falcons, too.
68:59Yeah, but yeah. It's back-to-back weeks. The line's more injured.
69:02People are starting to figure out Shuck. Throw a ton.
69:04I don't know. I'm good with this. I'm nervous about the Saints.
69:08Yeah, I'm very nervous. We'll see on that. Their pass protection has gotten a lot worse.
69:12And Shuck does not look that good. Let's be honest.
69:15We were way over our skis with him. I don't agree.
69:18I mean, I'm completely throwing out the Minnesota. All right.
69:21Okay. Throw it out. Shuck requires some nuance. To talk about Shuck, I don't think Shuck's not that good is fair.
69:27I think we're running into the worst set of circumstances for Shuck in which he can look really bad.
69:32And that's where we're at. And that's why I'm nervous.
69:35But I think— It could be five going into last week.
69:38It could be six maybe. Are you talking about fantasy points?
69:41Yeah. Going into week five. Yeah. Because he throws a ton.
69:44He throws a ton. Keep an eye on them.
69:46Keep an eye on the Saints. I'm nervous about the Saints a little bit.
69:50Yep. For fantasy, though, it's set up so well because it's just like two, sometimes three, guys.
69:55And they just pass like crazy. So it's kind of similar to the Giants a little bit.
70:00I just have more confidence in Kellen Moore and Shuck than I do the Giants.
70:04I'm nervous about the Cardinals. I think if the Giants, if Jameis doesn't play well, that it does go to JJ McCarthy.
70:10Yeah. If it goes to JJ, I change everything that I'm thinking of because I don't know what that will look like.
70:16And it could be really bad. And it's more like— Don't you think it will at some point?
70:21They traded for it. I can't imagine why it would.
70:24They've only been in these two games because of Jameis' last two weeks.
70:27And they're in first place. Like, they're not going to— I know.
70:31I'm just saying like a couple of— No, but it could.
70:34Jacob's right. Offschedule. Rams, Broncos, Cowboys, Seahawks, Rams, Chiefs coming up.
70:37Cardinals is a good one. Dolphins, obviously. Dolphins suck, yeah.
70:40You abandon ship on any dolphin you got. Even Willis is not living up to that.
70:44Well, Ollie Gordon is a big deal right now.
70:47I wouldn't abandon ship on him, but I'd sell high on Ollie Gordon.
70:50Yeah, I would sell high on that for sure.
70:53And that would be abandoning ship if you're selling high.
70:56So you pretty much agreed with me on that.
70:58No, because I'm not even rostering. I don't think you have to roster any dolphins except for Ollie Gordon.
71:03Obviously, you're not cutting Ollie Gordon if you spent all that FAB on.
71:07Him. But— I'm going to throw the Colts in here.
71:10Ooh. Oh, yeah. All right. Interesting. Yeah, they're pathetic.
71:12They're 30th in explosive play rate. Like, all they really can do is run Jonathan Taylor, and defenses have pretty much figured
71:18it out that, like, Jones is toast right now.
71:21Oh, no, no, no. Maybe he gets better. It's never his fault.
71:24It's never his fault. There's got to be O-line injuries and stuff going on there.
71:28It's pretty bad. It's never his fault. But, yeah, that's a good one.
71:32Do we put anyone from the North in there?
71:34The AFC North? I feel like no. I don't think you're dead with the Steelers.
71:39I'm still worried about the Browns. I'm still worried about the Jets.
71:42I know that it was awesome this past week for the Jets, and it continues to be really good for Denzel Boston week to week.
71:49But, I mean, it's—Herald Fannin had a 40% catchable target rate this week, or 33% or something like that.
71:54Like, it's—other than Boston, like, nobody's been exempt from the Browns week to week.
71:58It's been all over the place with the accuracy, and they're not throwing down the field other than to Boston.
72:04It's just been really, really bad there. I know it seems wrong because, like, both those teams are overperformed, but, like, I
72:10don't feel like there's clear answers to any of the clear problems that presented themselves to both those teams, and especially with
72:16the Jets if they split the backfield. I think, Garrett Wilson, you're probably mostly safe, but you still can run into games like you had in week four.
72:24But that's fine. Most of the teams are like that.
72:26One more to end the show. Well, Chargers. We can't not talk about Chargers.
72:30I said Chargers earlier. No, Chargers. No, no, no.
72:33I will not talk about the Chargers on this show.
72:36Why? I've just done talking about them. I've wasted too much breath.
72:39Well, we have to say that we feel— Of course.
72:42We have to make a stand. And no, it's not of course.
72:45Like, some people will be like, can they recover this season?
72:48Maybe, but— No, I think it's over. Yeah, there are only five, and their whole team's dead.
72:53There's a lot of season left. They can get healthy.
72:56They could be maybe— They can't get healthy. They can't get that healthy.
72:59I think the biggest issue for me is— And this goes for all of the massive Justin Herbert supporters, and I consider myself one of them.
73:06In the past, when all this crap has happened around him, he's played a hero ball, and he's looked unreal on film.
73:12The opposite is happening now. He's playing really bad.
73:15The worst I've ever seen him in his career, by far.
73:18And so if he's playing bad, and all these injuries are happening around him, there's just no out.
73:23It feels like there's no out for this team.
73:26Yeah. No, they suck. Last one I was going to bring up.
73:29How surprised would you be if the Raiders just cratered?
73:32The craters. With Kubiak, I'd be pretty surprised. I think if they had offensive line injuries, they could, but I would also be pretty surprised.
73:39They're like a one-man team right now. They run games.
73:41Just Bowers. It's all Bowers. And it is Kirk Cousins.
73:44And Kirk Cousins, who's been better than people think.
73:47That's what the Seahawks were last year, guys. True.
73:49I guess that—well, they ran the ball better than the Raiders are.
73:52Slightly. Yeah. Yeah. But it's a good point. All right.
73:55This is— That's something. That's RoboCop? That is a jacked version of RoboCop.
73:59Okay. Adam, by the way, from the Mailbag show, I found the actor I think you look like.
74:04What the hell is wrong with me in this picture?
74:07That is a weird picture of me, isn't it?
74:09Getting effed up by RoboCop. What do you mean?
74:12I mean, my face looks like I'm wearing a— It looks like I'm wearing an Adam Azer mask.
74:17My arms are huge, which is obviously wrong. I don't like this.
74:20Just to update the crowd for who was wondering, Patrick Fischler is the guy that I was thinking of.
74:25Patrick Fischler is the actor that I had. I don't know who Patrick Fischler is.
74:29No, you got—we were on this email with the listener who pointed this out to us.
74:34Oh, oh. Patrick Fischler. That's the guy I've been thinking about that you look a lot like.
74:39What the hell are you talking about? No, dude, you do.
74:42The eyebrows. No way. That doesn't look anything like Azer.
74:44What, dude? The eyebrows. The 5 o'clock shadow. What do they call it?
74:4810 o'clock shadow. Whatever they call it. They call it 5 o'clock.
74:51No, it's a 12 o'clock shadow. What is a 10 o'clock shadow?
74:55The eyebrows and the hair. Look at this picture of him from Lost, Thomas.
74:59Can I send this to you? Yeah, so like maybe a young version of him, but still it's not quite right.
75:04I feel pretty good about this. What does he play?
75:07He plays a really creepy character. This guy's eyebrows are so intense.
75:11It's really hard to compare anyone to him. No, you got to look at the younger picture.
75:15Go to the Lost one. Type in Patrick Fischler on Lost.
75:18Oh my gosh. This is great. This is really beyond the box.
75:22Right? That's Azer. Look at that first one. On the left, full left.
75:25Yeah, that's Azer to me. Yeah, I don't look anything like that, bro.
75:29Like maybe you're worried that your hair is going to look like that at some point.
75:33That is not my hair. What the heck is that movie that he's in?
75:37He's in old school. It's like the assistant to the...
75:40Yeah. But he also has like a real creepy role in like a horror movie or something.
75:45I feel like he's in a bunch of stuff.
75:47Always is a side character. Usually pretty good. He's in an episode of Curb, I remember him.
75:52Yeah. Yeah. I do remember thinking of someone else.
75:54I think I'm wrong here. All right. Well, thanks for watching and listening, everybody.
75:58We will talk to you tomorrow with The Waver Wire on Fantasy Football Today.
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