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0:17What's up everyone? Today's Wednesday. Not a lot going on tonight.
0:21Normal day. Right? Just chillin'. Playing fantasy football. Oh, it's Week 1!
0:25Let's go! Yeah! Yeah! There we go. It's 2026.
0:28Took long enough. Season's here. On a Wednesday. Yeah.
0:30Hey Heath, you feeling it? You feeling this vibe?
0:33I'm really, really excited. We need a new team name in our Leftovers League.
0:38Oh, I'll name it right now. Yeah, work on that.
0:41The Care Bear. Uh, I've been going through and naming a few of my teams.
0:46I haven't, uh... Um, I haven't gotten very far, though.
0:50Yeah, same here. Same here. I'm in a real rut there.
0:53All right, today we're gonna talk about some roster trends.
0:56Players we've been picking up. Players who are barely rostered.
1:00That you might want to add to your team, especially if you've got an open spot and someone's on IR or PUP.
1:07Oh, news and notes. San Francisco at the Rams.
1:10Game in Australia on Thursday. We'll tell you who to start and sit.
1:14How many 49ers can you trust? We have an update on George Kittle.
1:18And we'll do some buy or sell as well.
1:21Who is your most rostered player? I'm gonna throw it to the guy that has the spreadsheet that tells him who his most rostered player is.
1:30And this segment is sponsored by Sam Laporta. Sam Laporta.
1:33It, you know, it was a tight, tight race all the way down to the stretch.
1:38In redraft, I actually ended up with a tie between Sam Laporta and Kyle Pitts.
1:43Um, but I do have more Laporta in Dynasty than Pitts.
1:47So, as I believe, as I've looked at the rosters, Sam Laporta is the king this year.
1:52Okay, there we go. Sam Laporta. And I finally got my first share of Sam Laporta the other day.
1:59And obviously, I thought of you. And I will think of you every time his name is mentioned on a broadcast.
2:06Thanks. Yeah. Dave, who's your most rostered player? What, who are you going to, which player are you going to think of
2:13me when their name is mentioned on a broadcast?
2:16Probably Jalen Waddle. I did not get as much Jalen Waddle as I thought I was going to.
2:22Same thing with Parker Washington. I went through my teams.
2:25First of all, I'm in 14 leagues, which I'm embarrassed by.
2:29And only, uh, like two of them. I got Parker Washington.
2:32I didn't even count how many I had, uh, Jalen Waddle.
2:36And you know who I have a lot of is Drake May.
2:40I ended up taking Drake May in a bunch of leagues.
2:43So tonight it'll be fun against Seattle. Um, otherwise I, you know, stashed Jonah Coleman in a ton of leagues.
2:50I drafted James Connor and then immediately put them on the IR in a handful of leagues.
2:55Cortland Sutton's on a bunch of my teams. So that's, that's funny.
2:59Talked up Waddle. Ended up Sutton. Uh, you know, I think just to revisit tonight's games, we previewed it yesterday, but I
3:07mean, this is a thin secondary now for Seattle because it doesn't look like even where he's going to play.
3:13Another one of their starting safeties is out. Another one of their starting safeties is on the bears.
3:19One of their qualities on the IR. Yeah, he's on the IR.
3:23One of their cornerbacks. Rick Willen is on the Eagles.
3:26So they still have some talent there. They still have like probably three very good defensive backs, but it's not quite the same.
3:34So, and what else isn't the same? The Patriots receiving core is definitely not the same.
3:39AJ Brown is on this team. Romeo Dobbs is on this team.
3:43They have taken over as the top two receivers.
3:46I expect them to be, uh, targeted quite a bit.
3:49And then you've got guys like Hunter Henry, DeMario Douglas, they'll pitch in.
3:53They were bigger parts of the offense last year.
3:56And now this year, they're going to be more of role players.
4:00So it's definitely interesting. And I do think it's a much better opportunity for Drake May than what he had to deal
4:08with limping into the Super Bowl last year with a beat up offensive line, inferior receiving core.
4:13I think the Patriots win. And I think May is a solid game.
4:17Wow. Oh, I want to share that. My bold prediction that I gave on, on our HQ slash CBS Sports Network show yesterday.
4:25I know it didn't air on CBS Sports Network, but, um, same kind of show, uh, as Jamie will hop on here.
4:32Um, excuse me, uh, just real quick. Would you start Matthew Stafford or Drake May?
4:37Stafford. Stafford. Jamie? Uh, Stafford. Hey, there he is.
4:40Uh, Heath, I believe, especially now that the Chiefs, left tackle looks like it's going to be out.
4:46I think the Broncos are going to absolutely stomp the Chiefs and win by at least 10 points Monday.
4:52I don't know if it will be, I mean, first off, 10 points is not a stomping.
4:58Um, but also I think it, it currently looks like the craziest line of the week to me that the Chiefs are
5:05still two and a half point favorites against a team that was better than them last year.
5:10Probably did more to get better this year. And the Chiefs don't like have an offensive list.
5:16This is, I I'm expecting like Tampa Bay Super Bowl.
5:19Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah. Yes. Okay, good. Um, all right.
5:23Uh, Jamie, who's your most rostered player? My most rostered player is probably a tie in some capacity because I don't have the exact number I did.
5:31It's on the site of all the drafts I did prior to the slow drafts and the couple of drafts that happened this weekend.
5:39So it was probably like 20 of the 28 I did.
5:43Um, I think at that point it was Luther Burden, DJ Moore, Jonah Coleman, Jalen Coker.
5:48They were all like in the same six, seven, eight range of leagues.
5:52Okay, good. I think we can retire six, seven.
5:55I was going to do a six, seven thing there, but I think it's pretty much.
6:01That's why I said eight. Yeah. They appreciate that.
6:04Yeah. Uh, Dave and I both have 14 teams and we both are like, gosh, we have so many teams.
6:10Jamie has that, that combined 28 teams. How many for you?
6:14I have 28 teams. 28. Wow. That's weird. Crazy.
6:1718 redraft 10 dynasty. Okay. The dynasty ones are easier in season, right?
6:21I mean, oh, no, they're not. I mean, they are for, they are for you because all of your teams are tanking.
6:28So there's not as much, there's just not as much waiver wire.
6:32Right. I mean, that's the, that's the hardest part of fantasy is, is when you have this many leagues is Tuesday night
6:39and Wednesday night, making all your waiver claims. This might be why your dynasty teams are tanking.
6:45No, come on. You can't tell me that there's as many players to pick up in dynasty leagues.
6:51There are some, but not as many. Well, I mean, there's, there's more trade thought.
6:56There's more, you know, um, like he, he does a great job with the one dynasty league that he commissions or one
7:03of the two that he commissions and I'm in with him.
7:07Of having as an IDP league. So there are a lot of movement on that front more so than the offensive players.
7:14Okay. Well, I can't speak to that. Uh, if you had to guess, if you can, you co-manage that team with me.
7:21Yeah, sure. If you had to guess my most rostered player, there's, I think it's a tie between two.
7:27No, unofficial. Christian McCaffrey and yeah. Devante Smith. Different Devante, Christian McCaffrey and Devante Adams.
7:32A lot of Devante Adams. I am super old this year.
7:36Drafted a team yesterday with McCaffrey, Derek Henry, Travis Kelsey, and Devante Adams.
7:40So let's go. So I, I try pretty hard to make sure my most rostered player is not a first round pick.
7:47Um, that's like the, the one thing that I would like to not have happen because if, I mean, if Christian McCaffrey
7:54script, Christian McCaffrey, you're going to have a very good year.
7:58Like you did last year. Um, well, I don't know if you had a good year or not.
8:04It was okay. It wasn't okay. Yeah. Um, but man, like you can't, if Sam Laporte is bad this year, I'm not
8:11going to lose all my leagues because of it.
8:14Yeah. But if you, a first round pick is wrong.
8:17Yeah, I agree. I did. I did. We talked about it yesterday that, uh, I didn't have any Saquon Barkley.
8:24I purposely drafted Barkley. There you go. Uh, who have you been picking up lately guys?
8:29It's ads and drops. Uh, first of all, go to your league and look for players that are on IR.
8:36I mean, there's James Connors on IR. You saw him in a few leagues.
8:40There's no harm. If you have the open IR spot, there's just no harm.
8:45Your guy who Pacheco. Yeah. I mean, you're not getting Pacheco in a league with me.
8:50Malik Davis. Okay. Not bad. Chris Bell. Chris Brooks and George Halani been the three that I've picked up the most.
8:57Yeah. Halani is a good one. But you got to get him before the game tonight.
9:02With Chris Bell, he's 25% rostered. Caleb Douglas is 28% rostered.
9:06These two guys were listed as the starting wide receivers for the Miami Dolphins.
9:10They are at Las Vegas, at San Francisco, Kansas City to start the year.
9:15Those are secondaries that might be a little suspect here.
9:18And those are, you know, at least San Francisco and Kansas City could be scoring points on, well, maybe Raiders too.
9:25Anyway, setup's not bad here for these Dolphins receivers.
9:28Definitely. Yeah. Who do you prefer between Caleb Douglas and Chris Bell?
9:32Bell. Bell for now, but... Yeah. I think somebody said the Dolphins listed too many starters on their starting offense.
9:39They have 12 starters listed, so one of those wide receivers.
9:42Good luck. Jeez, they're pulling out all the stops.
9:45Well, I just decided, you know, they can play with 12.
9:49Yeah. Okay. I've been picking up Devon Vele. He is 6% rostered.
9:53That's a good one. And Jalen Knoll is 5% rostered.
9:56And I think if you look at the Saints and the Texans, you have basically the same situation.
10:02The number two receiver, Jaden Higgins and Jordan Tyson are out.
10:06We like the tight ends as kind of late round picks or week one streamers.
10:10Based on last year, Juwan Johnson has a much better matchup than Dalton Schultz.
10:15But then you got these other receivers that might do something.
10:19Devon Vele had five to eight targets in four straight games to end his season.
10:24And, you know, I'm pretty much... I'm only considering playing him in deeper leagues, but take a shot on him.
10:30And Jalen Knoll is another guy that... There's one more, too, in the same vein as Darnell Mooney with Slayton getting cut.
10:37And Malachi Fields might be the number two guy, but I think Mooney's going to end up playing more and probably getting more targets and opportunities.
10:46We like the tight end. We obviously like the number one receiver.
10:50The number one wide receiver may not play his full snap share in week one against Dallas.
10:55So I think Mooney's another guy in that same category.
10:59And then Freddie in the chat just said a name that I was going to mention also.
11:04It's Duntavian Wicks. Like, Makai Lemon may be good, may eventually become that guy that I'm sure the Eagles are hoping for and fantasy managers were drafting.
11:13But Wicks comes to this offense with the familiarity of the system from Green Bay.
11:18And there's a chance that he may get more targets and opportunities early in the season.
11:23So there's like a few of these scenarios that you mentioned, Adam.
11:27You know, the two that you brought up. And then Wicks and Mooney were the number two receiver.
11:33Could kind of be this, you know, name that we don't want to really rely on.
11:38But or veteran that we don't want to rely on, but could be somewhat prominent early in the season.
11:45What's Adonai Mitchell's roster ship? I'm going to guess it's right in that same exact sense.
11:50Yeah, that would be one that I would gravitate toward.
11:53I was going to suggest Mason Taylor or Darren Waller.
11:56But that's if you need a tight end. And even if you need a tight end, you can probably find a better name than that on your way.
12:06Where are Greg Dulcich? A.J. Barnard. They're out there in a bunch of leagues for sure.
12:11And Kenyon Stiegel eventually overtake Mason Taylor. But I love what I've been reading about Adonai Mitchell.
12:16I remember what Scott Turner said about Mitchell when we talked to him earlier in the offseason.
12:22Looks like he could be the number two target getter.
12:25And we know Geno Smith likes to sling it.
12:28So I don't mind stashing Adonai Mitchell and just seeing what happens.
12:32Adonai Mitchell is 15% rostered. I was wrong about that.
12:35Way off. Yeah. Sundays are obviously important fun days in the fantasy community.
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13:53So that will be on YouTube on Wednesdays at some point.
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15:03Go ahead, Heath. I just want to celebrate something because I've been waiting all summer for this moment.
15:09And it's finally here. Adam, would you like to guess who the high guy on Kyle Pitts is this week?
15:16It's Jamie. No. It's not. It's Dave. How about that?
15:19It's Dave. Dave. It's got to be me. How much higher am I than you guys?
15:24Just a spot higher than me and I think two higher than Jamie.
15:28You guys suck. I can't believe you don't even like Kyle Pitts.
15:32I don't even know who you guys are anymore.
15:35All right. We're going to take a break and we're going to talk.
15:40By the way, the Dolphins did list 12 starters.
15:43Could they have three receivers, a fullback, a tight end?
15:4612 versus 11? Could they beat the Rams with 12 on 11?
15:50No. I hope so. I don't think they could, even with 12.
15:54I think so. They're 12. 12 on both sides?
15:57No, no, no. 12 for the Dolphins, 11 for the Rams.
16:00Yeah, I understand, but they get 12 on both sides of Dolphins.
16:04Oh, oh, oh. 24 on 22. All right. We'll take a break and try to figure that out during the commercial break.
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18:10We are back. News and notes. Travion Henderson is out tonight against Seattle.
18:14Ramondre Stevenson or Kyron Williams? Kyron, buzz clubs. Ramondre for me.
18:18I believe I have Kyron two spots higher. Already mentioned all of the safety and secondary concerns for the Seahawks tonight.
18:25George Kittle is likely going to play, but he's going to be, I don't know.
18:29They say they're going to monitor his snaps. No idea what that means.
18:34Let me just say that from my experience, a pregame report about a player being on a snap count, you know, from
18:41any of the major reporters out there is one of the most, one of the least reliable reports.
18:47Yeah. Do you remember his first game back last year?
18:50No. He played 80% of the snaps and was just a blocker.
18:54Kittle? He didn't throw him the ball. Yeah. He probably ran the routes though.
18:59I think he had two targets. Didn't, didn't have a catch.
19:02Just was almost entirely a blocker. What was the game script like?
19:06The Niners have a big lead and he didn't have to run routes.
19:10I don't, I don't think so. I think we were like, what the hell happened here with George Kittle?
19:17But it might've been Mac Jones too. McCorkle. Hmm.
19:20Okay. I still have him top 10. I, if he's playing, I figure the 49ers are gonna have to throw a good amount.
19:27I'd want to lean on him to some degree.
19:30I'm not going to have high expectations, but still up there for me.
19:34Okay. So would any, you know what? We're going to get to that in a minute.
19:40That's like our next topic is, is breaking down that game.
19:43The buck signed Baker Mayfield to a three year, $165 million extension.
19:47Heath, what is the dynasty impact? Um, this gives him a little bit more security.
19:52Probably moves him up a spot or two in the rankings.
19:56I feel bad for everybody that was super excited about a motivated Baker Mayfield because now he got a contract.
20:02So he's obviously not going to be motivated anymore.
20:05Yeah. Uh, Patrick Mahomes is likely to start this week, but Kansas city left tackle Josh Simmons is unlikely to play.
20:12As we mentioned earlier, Aaron Donald is out this week.
20:15Um, it's according to ESPN's Dan Graziano. It sounds like Malik neighbors will play this week.
20:21Uh, if you have a guy Wednesday or Thursday and you're, you know, deciding between Devante Adams, Mike Evans, stripling and Malik neighbors, Jamie, what do you do?
20:30Uh, I would play Adams over neighbors. I think anyway.
20:33Um, who was the other one? The 49ers guys.
20:36Um, Evans would probably, if neighbors does not practice today, then I would play Evans.
20:41If, or tomorrow, I guess today or tomorrow. Um, I would probably wait out to see stripling, wait out neighbors instead of
20:48playing stripling and just probably go to the waiver wire and find somebody if I could.
20:53Okay. I, I just kind of assumed when they cut Darius Slayton that neighbors was going, right?
20:59You would think, right? Uh, Caleb. Oh, I mentioned Chris Bell.
21:03Caleb Douglas listed as starters from Miami, but I guess they have 12 starters and Romo Dunze is day to day.
21:09We definitely have to keep an eye on that one.
21:13All right. Let's take a look at Thursday night football.
21:16Na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Ah, ah.
21:19Did you throw something? I did. What was that?
21:22I'm not at liberty to say. San Francisco's at the Rams.
21:26Here's a stat of the game that will not come to fruition.
21:29Unfortunately, this was from CBS sports research. If all the stars align and Aaron Donald, which he's not playing Nick Bosa, George
21:37Kittle all play, this game would have featured the most combined first team, all pro selections playing in a game since the
21:441999 wild card playoff game between the Cowboys and Vikings.
21:47This would have been that star studded, but unfortunately it's just a little bit less star studded.
21:53Okay. So look, I mean, these are two contenders here, but Heath, how much better do you feel about starting Rams than 49ers?
22:00A lot, a lot, a lot better. I am, uh, I'm actually skeptical that the 49ers defense is going to be as
22:07good as it has in the past. And I think the Rams defense, even without Aaron Donald as the best in the league.
22:15Um, so I, I've got Stafford over Purdy. I'd still have Christian McCaffrey over Kyron.
22:20I would start two Rams wide receivers over any 49ers wide receiver.
22:24And I don't want to start a tight end in this game.
22:28Yeah. Tight end. We'll get into Kittle in a little bit here.
22:32I mean, Adams is a, is a no brainer.
22:35I mean, it seems, it seems like the 49ers secondary, at least according to sharp football and PFF, not very good.
22:42So, you know, let's, you're starting Adams. Let's keep this game simple.
22:46Right. And, and like Kyron, uh, where do you guys have Kyron, Jamie?
22:50Like around 16, 17 in that range. Same. I think he might be 20th, but he's an RB too.
22:56Okay. Basically where he was drafted. We're not going to start.
23:00You wouldn't start Coram over like Jadarian price or anything with no, no.
23:04Okay. I do love the matchup for, for the Rams running backs, but we just don't know.
23:09So I think it's a little nuts to start Coram.
23:13So we know more. Yeah. I mean, let's, so for the 49ers, their secondary might be a concern, but they might be
23:20good up front because well, Nick Bosa being back is going to help, but also that helps their pass rush.
23:27Like Fred Warner played five games or maybe, you know, they have, uh, they have, um, green law back.
23:33Right. So they could be better. Um, they should be better Rams, you know, start your Rams other than just lose the key defensive lineman though.
23:41Who'd they lose? Uh, I forget his name that they put on the new nose tackle.
23:47Yeah. Oh yeah. I didn't see where his meniscus.
23:49That's a bummer. I'm sorry. I didn't see that.
23:52All right. So then let's talk about Alfred Collins.
23:55Sorry. Let's talk about the quarterbacks here. Um, Stafford over Purdy Stafford or Stafford or well, definitely over my homes.
24:02Oh yeah. Let's go. I've got Stafford third. Oh, okay.
24:05Let's just go right to the jugular here. I, I know Bosa's back and that helps the pass rush, but I've got
24:12questions about much of the rest of this 49ers defense.
24:16So how about Purdy then? Where do you have Purdy Dave?
24:19I've got Purdy 13th and that feels low, but there are a lot of quarterbacks that I like this week.
24:26There were a lot of quarterbacks that we drafted.
24:29Um, I'd start golf ahead of him. I think just about everybody else that was ahead of him in ADP other than Stafford.
24:36Cause I think Stafford was behind them. I, they're easy starts to me over Purdy, but I don't, I don't mind Purdy.
24:44Bro, Dave, you have Jackson dart 22nd. Yeah. Whoa.
24:47Yeah. Cause I was going to say that Heath and Jamie would start Jackson dart against the Cowboys over Brock Purdy.
24:53Dave would start, um, maybe some college quarterbacks over Jackson dart this arch Manning baby.
24:58So do you have my homes ahead of Jackson dart?
25:02I think no, no, they're back to back. Yeah.
25:05Okay. Yeah. 22 and 23. Um, Purdy or Kyler Murray.
25:08Kyler. Kyler. Purdy. Dave is the high guy on Purdy at 13.
25:12Heath and Jamie have Purdy 17th. Tyler Shuck over Purdy for Jamie and Heath, not for Dave.
25:17Dave, your quarterback rankings are definitely the outlier this week.
25:21I love it. Yeah. What's it, what's it like Heath?
25:24It's a, it's a, uh, Hey me. Yeah. Uh, all right.
25:27Start McCaffrey, Evans and stripling Heath. What are your thoughts there?
25:31I don't really want. Yeah. I don't really want to start them.
25:35I rank them Evans, Debo, stripling. Um, Evans is a wide, a number of three wide receiver for me, but I, I
25:42would like to have three receivers better than him.
25:45Yeah. It's weird right here when you preview a game and you like, Oh, how did the, how did the Rams do against wide receivers last year?
25:54Well, actually, how did the chiefs do against wide receivers last year?
25:58Because the Rams have both starting cornerbacks from the chiefs.
26:01But those corners are going to have a much more pleasant time playing, um, behind this pass rush.
26:07Yep. Then they did the chiefs last year. So they're going to have to defend for about two and a half seconds.
26:14And they were good last year. They were 10th, but the chiefs were 10th best.
26:19Obviously it's not all about the two cornerbacks, but they were 10th best and they held, uh, some very, very good wide receivers in check.
26:27So I have Evans in a lot of leagues, but definitely trying to get away from them.
26:33Let me give you guys some flex options over Mike Evans.
26:37How about some running backs here? Would you start, um, would you start Marshawn Lloyd?
26:42Oh, I'm so on the fence of this one.
26:45Marshawn Lloyd at Minnesota or Evans. Evans at PPR.
26:47I got to find Lloyd. After the report yesterday, for sure.
26:51I would go Lloyd. I'm looking for Lloyd. Did you see what the office coordinator said, Adam?
26:57No. Oh, uh, expect a committee for the Packers back to the week one.
27:01I have them back to back Evans one spot out of Lloyd.
27:05Yeah. I don't know what that means. Like I saw what they did in the preseason and it sure as hell wasn't
27:12a committee except for Chris Brooks playing on third down.
27:16And these coaches talk about this stuff all the time, but like they're, they're always going to say, yeah, we want to get all our guys involved.
27:25Basically. I'm not always. Well, I mean, I think for the first game against Minnesota for a player that has one career
27:32game on his resume, you're probably not going to see a huge snap share for him.
27:37So, or huge amount of touches for him. So especially if surprisingly enough, they're underdogs.
27:42So if they are chasing points, I think we see a little bit more of Chris Brooks, if not a lot more of Chris Brooks.
27:50So I would just be cautious with Lloyd and I wouldn't panic if he has a bad game.
27:56They also did bring in another running back for a workout yesterday.
28:00So probably not the best sign for Josh Jacobs in terms of what the Packers are thinking and probably not the best
28:07sign for the three guys on the roster. My guess would be is mostly an indication of Caleb Johnson.
28:13So they brought in Phil Maffa just for a workout just to see what they have there.
28:19Another big physical running back. Yeah. Someone said in the chat, probably benching Lloyd week one.
28:24And so am I, but I'm also probably benching Evans week one.
28:28How about Tony Pollard against the Jets or, or Mike Evans?
28:32Pollard. Yeah. I'd be Paul. How many, Dave said Evans, how many Colts wide receivers would you start over Evans?
28:38Just one. Downs. I don't think I have any.
28:41Me neither. Give you a stat. The Ravens gave up the most big pass plays in football last year and the most
28:48pass plays of 20 or more air yards. And that's who the Colts play in week one.
28:54All right. I got a better stat than that.
28:57What, what do you got? And this could maybe help you make the decision on somebody like Downs.
29:03And I would like Downs better if Keenan Allen didn't sign with the Colts.
29:07Obviously Colts took on Jesse mentors chargers defense last year.
29:11They let them up for 38 points. They absolutely dominated the type of defense that Jesse mentor plays.
29:17And so I do think he, he's got personnel this time around that matches up better with the Colts, but I'm, I'm
29:24not sure it's going to be any more successful.
29:27If he sticks with lots of zone coverage, doesn't blitz that much.
29:31Do we know if Matt Buki is going to play for Baltimore?
29:35I guess we'll start to find out that information today, but I don't think so either.
29:40And I think that helps the Colts too. Um, I, I know it sounds like I'm talking myself into Josh Downs over Mike Evans.
29:48I'm not there yet, but I do, I do kind of like Downs to, especially in PPR to get seven targets come through with a solid game.
29:57Okay. And then let's talk about Kittle here. Cause I, I don't know.
30:01I mean, it's week one, no one's on a buy, not that many guys are injured.
30:06So I don't personally as a host feel a ton of, uh, I wouldn't say need.
30:11I don't think it's helpful if I'm like, well, would you start Debo Samuel or this other guy that no one's starting?
30:19Because I'm just guessing, you know what? I'm going to look at Debo Samuel start percentage right now.
30:25And it's probably not worth discussing. It is 10%.
30:27And stripling. Yeah. Stripling. It's like, we kind of want to see it first.
30:32He is at 7% started, but I've been getting some Dijon stripling questions.
30:36So I don't know. Is he, is he in the top 30 for you guys this week?
30:42No, not in top 48. Not 48. All right.
30:45There are people, I think yesterday he was drafted in round six of our draft.
30:50He was. I've been in several drafts where he was drafted in round eight.
30:54So I know there are people like considering starting him in week one.
30:59You also have, you know, as it's evolving clearly, you know, as they're speaking in another continent, um, Mike Evans saying that
31:06his resting or, you know, not practicing was another planned situation or, you know, they're just being cautious with it.
31:12So I, I think when you're drafting stripling or were drafting stripling, you were doing it with a hedge on Evans missing
31:20time or maybe missing time early in the season.
31:23And, you know, some of the bigger leagues I had somebody asked me yesterday, Hey, same, same, same round.
31:29Heath, uh, I'm in a huge, you know, uh, fantasy league is stripling in round six worth.
31:34And I said, listen, if he hits, you're going to hit big, right?
31:39Cause we, we saw what he looks like in the preseason and you're the easiest bet to make on injuries is probably the 49ers.
31:46So if Evans misses any time, if he was out for this week, I think we'd be very excited about stripling, even with a tough matchup.
31:55So just knowing that there's two significant veterans at its same position, three significant veteran pass catchers there.
32:01I just don't think you want to buy into stripling as a starter.
32:05We know receivers usually come off the, or, you know, in drafts came off the board a lot sooner than the running
32:12backs when we get to this range. So I think, you know, stripling probably should have been like around seven pick at the highest, maybe around eight.
32:21So around six is just being aggressive with it.
32:24I would just take a cautious approach and sit him this week.
32:28Okay. Let's not, I'd rather start just, you know, I named your, but I'd rather start the Von Vele than there's not stripling.
32:36I'd rather start at nine Mitchell. Wow. Would you rather start Caleb Douglas and Chris Bell and Dijon stripling?
32:42Oh, I think that might be going too far.
32:45Okay. Okay. So how about Kittle? Kittle's a tough call.
32:48We don't know what the snap share will be.
32:51Last year, he did have a huge game against the Rams.
32:55He scored 23.4 fantasy that fantasy points, but the Rams got really good against tight ends late last year, including Trey McBride twice.
33:02Kyle Pitts was terrible. Colson Loveland had 56 yards on 10 targets.
33:06I don't know if any of that will carry over.
33:09So Kittle is 13th for Jamie, 10th for Dave and 16th for Heath.
33:14So it's an average of 13th. And are there any streamers?
33:17I'm guessing Heath, the answer is going to be yes for you.
33:21Cause you have him 16th. What streamers would you start over George Kittle?
33:26Only one. There's only like, we've got 15 tight ends that have a high enough roster percentage to not call them streamers.
33:33Um, the one is the guy that I talked about that I don't, don't think should be this available, but Dalton Schultz
33:40is on rostered in about half of leagues. And I would start him over Kittle this week in full PPR.
33:46Okay. Jawan Johnson for sure. Yes, but he's not, he's too rostered, right?
33:51He is. Oh, you're talking about none. I gotcha.
33:54But there were people that drafted Kittle in the middle of late rounds and then probably took a second tight end.
34:01And so I think that's the conversation. And I'm looking at Kittle right now in my rankings and I've got him higher than Jawan.
34:08And I don't know if I agree with it.
34:11I think Jawan does make sense as someone that you could start ahead of Kittle this week because of all the uncertainty around him.
34:19But I know what the track record is for tight ends against this Rams defense.
34:24I know the Rams defense improved their cornerbacks. I think that does open the door for whoever is at tight end for
34:31them to put up some solid numbers. And I just, I know what George Kittle is capable of doing.
34:38And if I've got him on my team, I want to use him if he's going to play.
34:44Yeah, if you want to, if you want to start Jawan Johnson, the Lions last year played five games without their two
34:51starting safeties who are on IR right now. And in those five games, they give up 65 or more yards to Kate Otten, Colby Parkinson and Colson Loveland.
35:00And I think those three combined for two touchdowns.
35:03So they did struggle against tight ends without their two starting safeties.
35:07And I think it's reasonable to expect that to happen again.
35:10So Kittle, how about Kittle? How about guys like Dalton Kincaid and Jake Ferguson over against Kittle?
35:16Not this week. The matchups aren't great for either one.
35:19I might try it with Kincaid. That's another tight end that I've got ranked behind Kittle as of right now.
35:26Definitely not Jake Ferguson. I've got it. Kincaid, Kittle, Ferguson, 15, 16, 17.
35:30So flip a coin. Start the Rams DST, sit the 49ers DST.
35:34And that is it for Thursday Night Football. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na.
35:39Ah! Ah! Do people listening sing along with us, you think?
35:43I think they maybe do the nah. We had some start sits in the chat from that game.
35:48Okay. And you know what? I honestly think I skipped Stafford because Dave said he had him third.
35:54But Jamie has him eighth and Heath has him tenth.
35:58So he's definitely a start. But Stafford, yeah. So I'm going to rewind the na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na.
36:05And we're not done yet. Kittle or Likely? That's going to be Likely, right?
36:10I don't know about that. I think Likely might be.
36:13Oh, yeah. Likely. That's what you said. I'm sorry.
36:16Kittle or Kraft? Kraft. Tucker Kraft. Kittle or Andrews?
36:19Andrews. Andrews for me. I'll go Kittle. Give me a flex and half PPR.
36:24Jalen Waddle. Marshawn Lloyd. Mike Evans. Parker Washington. Oh, who is it between Waddle and Washington?
36:29I think it'd be Waddle. But it's close, man.
36:32I love them both. Probably Waddle. Adams or Burden?
36:35Burden one billion percent if Odunzeh is out. And Burden either way if Odunzeh is in.
36:40I got Burden one spot higher. I'll take Adams.
36:43Evans or Godwin? Godwin. See, that's... Godwin. Yeah, I think we're going Godwin there.
36:48Godwin. Chris Godwin. And can we discuss Terrence Ferguson?
36:51Roster. Another good stash candidate. Don't start him this week.
36:54There we go. Okay. And that's it for Thursday Night Football.
36:58No, no, no, no, no. Let's do some buy or sell after this break.
37:02All right. We'll be right back with buy or sell.
37:05A Ramondre Stevenson buy or sell. A Jacoby Lane buy or sell.
37:09Jonah Coleman. Christian McCaffrey. Vicar Ryan. And more. Did you guys watch any of the, what they're calling the second best tennis match of the year?
37:18No, I missed it. Oh my gosh. I mean, I didn't see it, but it ended at 3.33 in the morning in New York.
37:26And it was like, I mean, for any, it was like, it was basically one of the best tennis matches.
37:32I don't know. In US Open. I don't know.
37:35I don't know. But it was incredible. And. Wait, it was in the United States?
37:40It was. Yeah. Started at 11. Played until 3.30.
37:43They started at 11.30 or something like that. And they ended at 3.33 in the morning.
37:48It seems like bad marketing. Yeah, I know. I read a five set thriller between like the best player in the world and an American who beat him.
37:58And really cool stuff. I wish I had even known about it.
38:02I had no idea. Could have learned a few things.
38:05Yeah, I think so. Actually, no. When they're that good, there's really not much you can learn.
38:10Like we can't learn about it. I was talking about me because, you know, commentary wise for tennis.
38:16You think any of them, any, either of the competitors were burping throughout the match?
38:21What's the late, like, let's say you were at, you know, the NBA, the Super Bowl, whatever.
38:27What's the latest you think you would stay there?
38:30Obviously, the Super Bowl could go on and on and on, I guess.
38:34Would you stay there until 3.30? What's the latest you would stay at the Super Bowl?
38:39Would you stay there at 3.30 or would you go home?
38:43Are you really asking that question? You're assuming that like one of the teams we love is playing in the game.
38:50Well, that's the thing about tennis. No, you got to put it in context.
38:54Like this isn't the finals. So it's just, it'd be like a regular season football game.
39:00No, it'd be like a playoff game. Adam, the Hurricanes are in the national championship.
39:05How long are you staying at the stadium? Yeah, forever.
39:08Yeah, exactly. There you go. This would have been like the divisional round of the NFL playoffs.
39:13I mean, you would have stayed, obviously, if it was the Hurricanes SMU and there was a lightning delay, right?
39:20Until it was over? Not until 3.30 in the morning for a regular season game.
39:25So you're at the game. It's a nine o'clock start.
39:28There's a lightning delay that doesn't kick off until 11 o'clock.
39:32And you're staying until kickoff. You wouldn't stay till the end?
39:352.30 in the morning in that case. If I had worked the next day, no.
39:40If I didn't, then yes. The way that that game unfolded, you would have left.
39:45The Florida State game? Yes. You're lying. Whatever you're about to say is a lie if you say you leave.
39:52It depends if I had a show. Yeah, you know, I'd probably, you're right.
39:56I'd probably stay. Of course you'd stay. Acer would have never showed up.
40:01What? With the rain. With the rain. Oh, no.
40:04You've got the wrong guy. I don't mind. I'll brave the elements.
40:07I'll brave. I mean, if I see a spider, I won't brave that.
40:12But the elements, I'll brave. Buy or sell. Ramondre Stevenson will be the Patriots starter.
40:17I'm going to change starter to lead back all year.
40:20Ramondre Stevenson will be the Patriots lead back all year.
40:23Bye. So. Oh. What do you think, Heath? There's lots of things that could happen.
40:28I think it's below 50%. Be a week or two where it's Travion.
40:32From Matt Davis. Buy or sell. Jacoby Lane and Emmitt Johnson will be league winners.
40:37So. For sure sell in the case of Lane.
40:40And the only way Emmitt Johnson is going to be is if Kenneth Walker wins Powerball.
40:45All right, fine. So buy or sell. If Ken Walker buys or wins Powerball, Emmitt Johnson will be a league winner.
40:52Bye. Okay. From Luis. Buy or sell. Chuba Hubbard maintains the lead role over Jonathan Brooks.
40:58Sell. Sell. From Yogi Danza. Buy or sell. Jonah Coleman takes over the Denver backfield by week four.
41:04Sell. So you got to sell it. By week 14.
41:07I could buy that. Maybe, right? Maybe. And another one from Yogi.
41:11Buy or sell. Dan is the type of person who decides they don't want something.
41:16Dan is the type of person who decides they don't want something they already picked.
41:21They just throw it on whatever aisle shelf they're on.
41:24No. No, I sell that. Yeah. For him, I sell that.
41:27Dan's the kind of person who would rant about that kind of person.
41:32Right. Yeah. Steve Davis says, buy or sell. The backup to Christian McCaffrey fantasy managers want is currently not on San Francisco's roster.
41:39Sell. Debo's there. Sell. Buy or sell. The majority of listeners, however slim, will have no idea what I'm referencing when I ask Vic or Ryan.
41:48And that makes me sad. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
41:51That's a good way to tell us that you've been listening for a long time.
41:56That was before me. That was before you. Mentioning Adam's wallet is a good way.
42:01Do you remember the person who would always ask us that question?
42:05The Vic or Ryan? Yeah. No. Who? No. Street Canth.
42:08Oh. Good call. I wonder what he's up to.
42:11Good call. Where'd he go? He was like, God, these idiots.
42:14That's probably with a little dabble. Do you? Does he know that story?
42:19Which story? A little dabble. Do you? Do you know that story?
42:23No. Do you know the slogan? A little dabble.
42:25Do you? Yeah. Okay. Go ahead, then. Tell the story.
42:29This is you, Jamie. Oh, so somebody wrote in.
42:32It was a team name. I think it was just an email.
42:36And then they signed it. They like there. Yeah.
42:39So it was A-L-I-L-A-D-A-B-A-D-O-O. Something right? Whatever. Yeah. And you just read it.
42:43What's Aleel Adab-Aduya? No, I thought it was from a guy named Aleel Dabble-Doya.
42:47Like, I'd never heard Aleel Dabble-Doya. It's still funny.
42:50It's been 15 years. I was thinking about the other day.
42:54The worst call that Dave has ever made was Crackland Oat Brand being a good cereal.
42:59Oh, by far. Yeah. It's so bad. I've made some bad calls.
43:03And I think you're right. I do. I've strayed from that take.
43:07Oh, wow. So bad. I had it. I had it some point last year, and it just tasted different to me.
43:14And I threw the box out. Honestly. What did you say?
43:18It looks like kitty litter. I think once you said that, it was over for me.
43:23Like Crackland Oat Brand. So now I don't have a favorite cereal.
43:27I'm a free agent on the cereal market. When you grow up eating all that sugary cereal, and then you come back
43:34to it years later after not having eaten it for a while, it's not as good as it used to be.
43:41Oh, you're crazy. Froot Loves are still the best.
43:44I mean, I guess I really like life cereal still.
43:47But I don't know. It's like it's too sweet now for me.
43:51I had you pegged for Raisin Bran. I did like, oh, believe me.
43:55I like me some Raisin Bran. This one is from Gamer.
43:59Eric! Buy or sell. Jake Ferguson will finish the season ahead of Mark Andrews.
44:04Andrews. So. I'm selling it non-PPR. It's full PPR where I might see a pathway, but it's going to be close.
44:10Jake Ferguson is very rostered. And I just want to give this stat.
44:15I'm not saying it'll play out this way. But he played 13 games with CeeDee Lamb.
44:20And he averaged 8.7 fantasy points per game. He did have six or more targets in seven of those 13 games.
44:27But he just kind of struggled with the targets.
44:30But he's kind of like Kyle Pitts, only worse.
44:33He averaged 18.6 per game without Lamb. And 8.7 per game with Lamb.
44:37So based on last year, Jake Ferguson probably shouldn't be rostered as much.
44:41But, you know, things could play out differently. I also would say if Lamb or Pickens gets injured, Jake Ferguson is basically an amazing handcuff.
44:49Probably, you know. Well, is it him or is it Flannoy?
44:53That's a good question. Flannoy could factor in. But, I mean, like if he were on the waiver wire right now, I probably wouldn't pick him up.
45:02Even though I did in one league where I had an empty roster spot.
45:06But if Lamb or Pickens got hurt, he'd be one of my top priorities.
45:11I guess. I think you're going to see like Ferguson, Brenton Strange.
45:15I'm trying to think of another tight end that's kind of in similar vein.
45:20Like where there's a crowded receiving core or you just know what the pecking order is.
45:25But they'll catch enough touchdowns where they'll sort of flirt with top 12 relevance on a week-to-week basis.
45:31You know, so like Ferguson last year had eight touchdowns and over 100 targets.
45:35And just was such a non-factor, like you said, when everybody was healthy.
45:40Yeah. So it's like you'll never like be thrilled to start that player.
45:44But the week that they score or the weeks that they score, you'll be like, okay, this is why I justify having them on my team.
45:52Okay. A few more buyer sales here from Lloyd Cobbler.
45:56If Dalton Kincaid plays his highest snap percentage of his career this year, he's a top five tight end.
46:02If you had said top 10, I would have bought it.
46:05Yeah. I was going to go top eight. There you go.
46:09Yep. Top eight sounds good to me too. From Phoenician.
46:12Buyer sell Drake London is not a top 12 wide receiver with two at Tunga by Lois starting.
46:18So. So. You know, I've got London, I think like 10th in my rankings and I feel like that's a little too high.
46:26I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it.
46:29With Tunga as the quarterback, I'm going to say he's not a top 12 receiver.
46:34But we don't expect that to last too long.
46:37It seems like I want Penix to be the guy.
46:40Yes. Steve says, Buyer sell fantasy players and experts not considering Washington's suspect offensive line nearly enough.
46:46Sorry, that we are not. We are not considering Washington's suspect offensive line nearly enough when it comes to drafting.
46:52Jayden Daniels, Terry McLaurin, Bill and White. The funny thing is, like, I think that fantasy managers from the experience I've had
47:00in drafts have considered it a lot. In my final FFPC draft, I got Jayden Daniels at the end of round 10.
47:07Whoa. He's been going in round eight or seven in a lot of our drafts.
47:12Bill's not a top 28 running back. Terry McLaurin's fallen outside of the top 24 wide receivers.
47:17I think people have adjusted. Yeah, our ADP, the latest one.
47:21I don't know about drafts last night, but Daniels fell behind Dak Prescott and Jalen Hurts.
47:26I just want to remind everyone, two years ago, Larry Meitunsel was on the Texans.
47:31And Jayden Daniels had his great rookie season, and McLaurin had the best season of his career.
47:37I've been pretty scared about it, but I also think the dig signing factors in with the McLaurin drop.
47:43I've been thinking. Yeah, go ahead. No, sorry, go ahead.
47:46I've been more afraid of Ja'Cory Kroski Merritt than Daniels, because Daniels is so athletic, and he'll be able to run away from the pressure.
47:54It's not going to be good for him, but they lost their best lineman, and then they moved the guard out to tackle.
48:02So now they've weakened two positions, and they just may not be as good.
48:06So I feel like the game script won't be as good for Bill.
48:11I'm totally with you on Bill, because he's in that range of running backs, or was being drafted in that range of running backs.
48:19Like with the Steelers guys, you could see there's more upside for them, especially if one guy separates from the other.
48:25Jordan Mason's a very similar profile. Easy to buy into the Vikings offense more so than the Commanders.
48:31You know, Dobbins, if you want to talk about shared backfields, like Broncos offensive lines, clearly better, and Dobbins was better last year.
48:39So you just kind of look at that whole group and whichever running back you like the best.
48:45But I think that was the appropriate range for him.
48:48To me, the easiest thing with Daniels is like the upside is amazing, and the downside is I pivot to Tyler Shuck
48:55or Kyler Murray or somebody that's available, and it's easy to find replacement value there.
49:00Not the same replacement value, but replacement value. So that's just an easy swing-for-the-fence position.
49:05And so like Heath was saying, the more he fell, the better it was, because you're just still stacking other great players
49:12around him, and now you're getting this what could be top-three quarterback.
49:16So it was just easy to still draft him.
49:19The other guys, yes, you could make stronger cases to move away from.
49:24Okay, and a few more here. Buy or sell from Jay.
49:27I should start Ramondre Stevenson over Jamison Williams in PPR.
49:30I went this week, but it's close. I went this week.
49:34And Craig. Buy for Heath, sell for Jamie. What was it for you, Dave?
49:39I'll take Jamo. For Craig, cinnamon raisin toast, ham, tomato, mozzarella, mayo, garlic powder, and oregano melted.
49:44Are you Craig, Adam? Do you have a list?
49:47This sounds really good. I would eat this. I know you would.
49:51I'd buy it. Literally. I would eat it. I wouldn't buy it.
49:55There you go. I'd buy it for you, and then you'd like it, and then you'd start buying it.
50:01Oh, this should be your next. What was the other bet you were trying to make, Heath?
50:07I don't even remember now. Okay, wait. I don't think we've really hammered home.
50:11No, it's 100% set. You agreed to it. We're not going back.
50:15No, no, no. I agree to the terms of the consequences.
50:19I forget. What are we doing if a quarterback gets hurt?
50:23Nothing for quarterback getting hurt. There are two. We're going to try to have a true winner.
50:28Okay. So, they need to be better in both total fantasy points and points per game.
50:33Mm-mm. I think you've got to pick one. If there's a split in those two, then the tiebreaker is fantasy playoffs points.
50:41Because that's what matters. No, no. I don't agree to that at all.
50:45You already did. We're a month into this, and we still don't have it.
50:49Did I really agree to that? Why did I agree to that?
50:53You did. I'll go back and find the tape, because since you never remember the things that you say.
51:00Yeah, it's true. It's true. Why can't you just settle on points per game in PPR?
51:05Can we do only games where they play 50% or more of the snaps?
51:09No. No, come on. This is why, Dave. This is why.
51:13No, that's a completely reasonable request. Because the next thing is, can we do games where, like, if they're offensive coordinators, we have a flu?
51:21So, Adam, if Devontae Smith had four for 60 and a touchdown and 49% of the snaps, so you're not going to count it?
51:29I think you have the option to count it.
51:32There we go. All right. Brian says, buy or sell pizza with pepperoni, sausage, jalapenos, and ricotta.
51:38Buy, buy, buy, buy. You all buy. It's disgusting.
51:41And then I wanted to look at the most added and most viewed players.
51:45I don't really think it makes sense right now.
51:48But there's one other guy. Hey, if you want a starting running back who's 63% rostered, I call him starting because he's
51:55listed as number one on the depth chart. That is Tyler Algier.
51:59Just want to throw that out there. Tyler Algier is 63% rostered right now.
52:04Only nine and a half point underdogs with an implied total of eight.
52:08This week should be a great time for the early downs running back.
52:12Yeah, but still. No, I think he should be rostered.
52:16Yeah. I hate those guys. You know, this was originally, I think I said this about Tevin Coleman when he was splitting with Devontae Freeman.
52:24I can't stand players that are too good to drop but not good enough to start.
52:29They are like the worst thing to have in fantasy and that might be Tyler Algier.
52:34Go back to the guys I just listed before.
52:37Like they're all the same. Which guys? Ja'Cory Krosky, Merritt, J.K.
52:41Dobbins. Like they need touchdowns to be good. Yeah, but they're better.
52:45They're at least. They're better than those guys, but that's the profile.
52:49Yeah, it could be. All right. Thank you guys.
52:52Good luck tonight. Get those lineups set. Those 14 and 28 lineups.
52:56I'll just say. We will talk to you tomorrow with starter sit for the AFC home games on Fantasy Football Today.
53:03Enjoy football, everybody. We'll be recapping a game next time we speak.
53:06See you later. Podcasts. Out of the shadows of Paramount Mountain, three heroes level up.
53:11Axe, Tyrus, and Gilius battle against the evil giant Deathadder to save the kingdom of Yuria from so much peril.
53:18Laser knives, ornery dwarfs, bad brothers, sentient skeletons, swords, scorpions, death armor, fire, imps, this thing, that thing, whatever that is, so much peril, and heroes.
53:26This is just the beginning of the story of Hampton Square.
53:30Golden Axe. New series streaming September 16th on Paramount+.