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FINAL Preseason Mailbag Q&A! Your Biggest Draft Questions Answered (09/05 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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1 hr 11 min
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Sep 5, 2026
Published
Sat, September 5, 2026
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Topics
James CookJosh JacobsRay DavisCaleb WilliamsD'Andre SwiftDavante AdamsDavid MontgomeryDe'Von AchaneEmmett JohnsonGeno SmithJahmyr GibbsJameson WilliamsJaylen WarrenJosh Allen
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Caleb Williams

PositiveProjection12:06

Dan Schneier projects Caleb Williams to finish as a top-three fantasy scorer at quarterback. Schneier notes Williams' elite rushing speed and improved command of the offense, citing reports from camp that he is now playing on time and throwing from within the pocket. With three high-end receivers and a strong offensive line, Schneier believes Williams has the ceiling to be this year's breakout star.

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D'Andre Swift

NegativeInjury5:04

D'Andre Swift is dealing with a cramp, but reports indicate he is fine.

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Davante Adams

NegativeValue39:50

If you do not like the cost of Tee Higgins, Davante Adams is presented as an alternative option at a similar draft position.

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David Montgomery

PositiveBreakout36:56

David Montgomery has the potential to bounce back significantly as a lead rusher, with the possibility of being a top-20 caliber running back, especially given his underrated ability as a pass catcher.

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De'Von Achane

PositiveProjection9:09

Dan Schneier has moved De'Von Achane up to RB5, just behind James Cook and ahead of Chase Brown (unless in full PPR). Schneier highlights that Achane was 8th in the NFL in 15-plus explosive runs last year despite a poor offensive line. He is expected to thrive in Mike McDaniel's scheme, which has produced the 4th most fantasy points and 5th most rushing touchdowns for running backs during his tenure. Schneier projects Achane as a 14-16 touchdown player who will rarely leave the field.

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Emmett Johnson

PositiveSleeper45:36

Dan Schneier is very high on Emmett Johnson as a handcuff for Kenneth Walker III, stating he would drop bench players like Makai Lemon or Mike Washington to roster him.

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Geno Smith

NegativeProjection47:44

Jamie is criticized for trading a 2027 second-round pick for Geno Smith in a dynasty league, with concerns that the Jets' poor performance could lead to Smith being benched.

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Jahmyr Gibbs

PositiveValue15:34

The panel prefers Jahmyr Gibbs over Josh Allen with the first overall pick in Superflex leagues, expressing excitement when he is available in the top three.

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James Cook

PositiveProjection25:12

Despite concerns about his physical frame and Josh Allen vulturing goal-line carries, the panel remains high on James Cook. He is expected to be more involved in the passing game under Pete Carmichael. The Bills' offense is highly run-heavy near the goal line, allowing both Cook and Allen to produce. Cook averaged over 19 points per game last year and is viewed as a high-end asset because he is one of the few running backs who catches 50-plus passes.

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NegativeUsage46:43

Dan Schneier recommends drafting Ray Davis as the final pick in drafts where James Cook is selected, as Davis is consistently available.

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Jameson Williams

NegativeValue40:02

Jameson Williams is suggested as a target for managers who are specifically chasing touchdown upside.

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Jaylen Warren

PositiveRole22:51

Jalen Warren is preferred over Rico Dowdle because he is expected to secure the pass-catching role in the Steelers' offense, which provides a safe floor similar to Kenneth Gainwell's role last season.

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Josh Allen

PositiveValue15:34

The panel considers Josh Allen the only quarterback worth considering in the first round of a Superflex draft due to his consistent production, though they generally prefer Jameer Gibbs at the 1.01 spot.

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Josh Jacobs

NegativeValue27:35

Josh Jacobs presents a significant roster headache for fantasy managers due to his current status, and managers should not expect to use IR spots for non-injury situations like suspensions or contract disputes.

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NegativeInjury54:25

Josh Jacobs was placed on the commissioner's exempt list, causing his draft stock to fall. There is debate regarding whether he should be eligible for IR spots in leagues that allow suspended players.

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Kenneth Gainwell

NegativeUsage23:58

Kenneth Gainwell finished as a top-10 fantasy running back from weeks 6-18 last season, largely driven by 73 receptions, though his role was highly dependent on specific game scripts and team circumstances.

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Kenneth Walker III

NegativeUsage46:23

Year Up United's suggests that if you draft a running back early, you should expect them to be great rather than drafting them with the expectation of injury, though handcuffing is a valid strategy if you love the specific scenario.

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Mike Evans

PositiveValue40:06

Mike Evans is consistently available in the sixth round. Despite some concerns, he appears healthy and ready for Week 1.

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Patrick Mahomes

NegativeProjection33:29

Patrick Mahomes is viewed as outside the top 12-15 fantasy quarterbacks because the Chiefs' offense is no longer explosive and he lacks the downfield threats to reach his previous 5,000-yard ceilings.

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Puka Nacua

PositiveProjection20:23

Despite debate over taking him over Ja'Marr Chase, Puka Nacua is viewed as having the potential to be the best wide receiver again if he plays every game, given his 23.6 points per game average last season.

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Ray Davis

NegativeValue30:01

Ray Davis is recommended as a handcuff or insurance pick when drafting James Cook to mitigate risk.

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NegativeValue46:43

Ray Davis is recommended as a final-round pick for managers who have already drafted James Cook.

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Rico Dowdle

NegativeRole22:06

The Steelers backfield is expected to be a mix-and-match situation between Rico Dowdle and Jalen Warren, making them frustrating to project; while Dowdle has a history as a passing-downs option, he may handle running downs, though the team's usage remains unclear.

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Rome Odunze

NegativeInjury5:04

Rome Odunze is dealing with a foot issue, though reports suggest he is fine.

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Tee Higgins

NegativeUsage39:02

Higgins has the lowest target-per-route-run rate among top-four-round wide receivers. While he was a top-15 receiver last year, his efficiency is a concern; he may see 30 fewer targets than Garrett Wilson and potentially fewer than Zay Flowers. He is touchdown-dependent for fantasy success.

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1:29Can you believe this? You have no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
1:34Off to the races, and he stays on his feet.
1:37So here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
1:40Mailbag time! It is Thursday night, September 3rd, 1035 p.m.
1:42Eastern. It's FFT after dark. And we've got... Hey, Jamie.
1:45Hey, buddy. We've got a little bit of a sick Dan Schneier, and he's belching a lot.
1:50I hate how much joy you take in me getting sick.
1:54And it's a little bit karmic because I used to make fun of how often you were sick.
1:59Yeah, that's all it is. You know, it's... I just wish I knew what was going on.
2:04I was fine all day. And then Jacob and I did a 7 to 9, 30 p.m.
2:09live stream. And then I felt a headache, which is fine.
2:12I still have that, but that's fine. Then I ate a Trader Joe's dinner that I guess had been in the freezer for too long.
2:20But it said 1026. Or it said November... Yeah, October 26th.
2:23And it's only August or September. So I guess I cut it too close.
2:27No, you're fine. It's not that. Come on. You cut it too close?
2:31It's not that. It's not the source. Wait, wait, hold on a second.
2:35You think you ate something bad that says it goes bad by October and it's September 3rd?
2:40You have a migraine. You have a migraine. That's all.
2:43I guess. A little stressed out. You're all right.
2:45You're all right. He's okay, folks. We're going to read your questions at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
2:50We're going to get some of Dan's favorite players to draft.
2:53And we're not really going to talk news and notes because this show, a lot of people are going to hear it
2:59on Saturday and we have a Friday morning show.
3:02So, you know... You got to get to the Bears stuff though.
3:05I mean, the Bears are fine. Swift and Adunze are fine, it seems.
3:09And we're going to talk about it. Swift was a cramp, Adunze was the foot.
3:14I don't know if that's fine. Well, the report is that he's fine.
3:18So, we'll see what it says tomorrow. And we'll go from there.
3:21Dan, you want to tell us some of your favorite players?
3:24Maybe DeAndre Swift ate something that expires in December and he feels like...
3:28I mean, we're a month away. I'm concerned about it.
3:31We're a month away. I had a little bit of freezer burn on it.
3:35I didn't think anything of it. And now I'm like, what the heck did I do to myself?
3:41If you said you ate something from August, I'd say, okay, maybe it's October.
3:45I mean, it's a month away. He's just trying to figure out how he got sick.
3:50I get it. All right. Hey, well, actually, before we get to Dan's favorite players, I'm getting a lot of emails.
3:56A lot of emails that are saying, hey, I drafted a team that I think you guys would really like, but my draft grade was terrible.
4:03And I just want you all to know the draft grades don't mean anything.
4:08Whether they're on CBS or any website, don't worry about the draft grades.
4:11Yeah, they're just for fun. And I actually kind of have a funny story if I could.
4:16I don't know what other sites do. Ours are just based on projections.
4:20It is totally an algorithm based on projections. Yeah.
4:23That we don't control. I don't control it. Dave doesn't control it.
4:26He doesn't control it. Dan doesn't control it. Adam doesn't control it.
4:30It's all based on our sports line projections. And it just spits out a number.
4:34Yeah. And there could be a lot of spitting out on tonight's podcast.
4:38They have a bad feeling. Dan, if you puke on air, we'll still keep the same thing like the tennis match.
4:44A hundred bucks if you puke on air. It's the same dude.
4:48So there's a team in one of our FFT Open Leagues where the manager never accepted the invitation.
4:53And auto-drafted from, I don't remember what spot in the draft.
4:57The best grade of all? Eighth. Well, here's the team.
5:00Like, listen to this starting lineup. Auto-pick. Lamar Jackson.
5:02George Kittle. Jonathan Taylor. Derek Henry. Rasheed Rice. Mike Evans.
5:05Cam Scadaboo at Flex. He's pretty good. Yeah. No receivers, but yeah.
5:09The bench has Rico Dowdle. And then the bench has the following five players.
5:13All quarterbacks? Mark Andrews. Harold Fanta Jr. Dallas Goddard.
5:15Travis Kelsey. And Brenton Strange. That's going to ruin the rest of the league, though.
5:20It drafted six tight ends for this team and got an A+.
5:23Best grade of the draft. Like, it just cracks me up.
5:27I'll give you a little tip if you ever want to get an A grade on CBS.
5:32Uh-huh. Can you figure it out? Sort by the projections?
5:35No. What? Draft a bunch of quarterbacks? No. Five tight ends?
5:38Six tight ends? No. What? Draft Ravens. Oh, really?
5:41Mm-hmm. Because Stephen O does our projections. A Ravens fan does our projections.
5:44No. That's not fair. All right, Dan. Who are some players you keep drafting?
5:49All right. So, flag plan player for me this year, a Marion Hampton.
5:52I've moved them all the way up to RB5, just behind James Cook.
5:56It's just behind, just ahead of Chase Brown, unless it's full PPR.
6:00Then I'll put Brown ahead of him. Marion Hampton comes into a situation of the following.
6:04Last year, he was eighth in the NFL in 15-plus explosive runs, despite playing behind an injured and horrific offensive line with the Chargers.
6:12He joins a scheme with Mike McDaniel that has produced the fourth most fantasy points in Mike McDaniel's tenure, also the fifth
6:18most rushing touchdowns from his running backs. And let's remember, before last year, the Dolphins' offensive line was horrific.
6:24Last year, Brewer emerged, and they had some good pieces, and they were, what, mid-pack, a little above average from an offensive line standpoint.
6:31This offensive line for the Chargers, sure, there's a couple in.
6:34There's an injury on the interior offensive line. They have two of the best tackles in the NFL.
6:39They have a quarterback who's going to force teams to play in cover three, cover six, cover two, shell defenses.
6:45Hampton is going to eat on these outside runs.
6:48He's going to be a 14-16 touchdown type guy.
6:51Wow. And we don't see him coming off the field that often.
6:54So, he's my flag plan player for the year.
6:57Anyone, do you want to react, or should I go from there?
7:00I'll just say one thing. Some of those teams that, actually two of them, that I got an email said, I got
7:07a bad draft grade, and I have a team that started this way too.
7:11Chase Brown round one, Omari and Hampton round two.
7:14It's one of my favorite starts. Yeah. I think we all would agree on that.
7:18Yeah, totally. It's a rare year where I like picking in the back end of a snake draft a lot more than I like the four through six.
7:26Yeah. Okay. Here's another one. Caleb Williams. I think he's going to be top three scorer in fantasy points at the quarterback position.
7:33Wow. Guess who had the three fastest times rushing last year?
7:36Omari and Hampton. No, not Lamar Jackson. That was from a quarterback.
7:40Just kidding. Yeah. No, not Lamar Jackson. No, not Jackson Dart, who had nine rushing touchdowns himself.
7:45No, not Josh Allen. It was Caleb Williams. I don't think everybody realizes how fast he is and how big of a
7:51component that is his game, but where I'm really locking in on Caleb Williams is all the coach speak I've heard from
7:58Ben Johnson and Carmen Vitale, who covers the Bears and the Fox sports.
8:02And she was down at camp and she said, look, it's a totally different camp for Caleb Williams.
8:07Last year, we were just trying to get the plays in.
8:10Just trying to figure out what was going on.
8:13Now he has full command of the offense. Over his last two seasons at USC, he had a 72.
8:19That's right. 72 touchdown passes over his final two seasons at USC.
8:22I don't think people realize what the ceiling is for a player and a talent like Caleb Williams.
8:27If he's seeing the field well, if he's playing on time, if he's throwing from within the pocket.
8:33Last year, when Jacob and I watched the Bears, we watched way too much Bear State more than any other team.
8:39There were so many missed opportunities because Caleb Williams did not see the field well.
8:43If he has command of that offense, this is light out.
8:47When Ben Johnson says we're looking to score the most points in the NFL, it's possible with a talent like him, three
8:53amazing receivers and a great offensive line. So I think he'll finish as a top three fantasy scorer and be this year's Drake May.
9:00I love it. We can leave it at that.
9:03Let's answer some questions. And this is the type of insight you get on Beyond the Box score, which is really doing great.
9:10I mean, Jacob and Dan have taken that and really run with it.
9:14And I encourage everyone to listen. And it's got its own YouTube channel.
9:17If you search for Beyond the Box score, it's got its own podcast feed and it's great.
9:22And I'm pretty sure we're going to be doing the typical Monday morning recap show.
9:27Me, Jacob and Dan doing our own little Beyond the Box score.
9:30So I'm looking forward to that. Okay. Draftathon questions from Travis.
9:3410 team super flex league. Should I take Josh Allen or Jameer Gibbs with the first pick?
9:39Gibbs. Gibbs. I'm a Gibbs guy, too. We went over this in our super flex.
9:43Adam, you were shocked that somebody didn't take Gibbs first overall and you got him at three overall, I believe.
9:49It was Allen. Allen, Jackson, Gibbs. And I was doing cartwheels.
9:52I was so happy I had the third pick.
9:55I think Allen is probably the only quarterback I'd consider in that range, though, because he is so much like just the
10:01consistency he's put helps you so much in a super flex league.
10:05But I would still go Gibbs. So I saw Jack Capitordo, who made the pick of Josh Allen, and he's the only one in that league.
10:13No, he made the Lamar Jackson pick. Jack made Lamar Jackson?
10:16Yeah, because he auto-picked. Oh, Marone took. I'm sorry, Marone took.
10:19You're correct. But same thing applies. So they went quarterback, it went quarterback, quarterback.
10:23I just want to make sure I see who Jack took in round two.
10:27Because it matters for either one for Gibbs. Give me a second.
10:31Why don't you give me a second? I will pull up the draft board for you.
10:36Yeah, I'm trying to find it, too. Are you going to put it on?
10:40Yeah, I'll put it on the screen. I love this draft thing.
10:43It's awesome. It is awesome. All right. All right.
10:46So he ends up in round two taking Trevor Lawrence.
10:49So what he said was that he would have taken Gibbs because, and Dan even made mention of this.
10:55I quoted Dan in the story, how weird it was that the quarterbacks did not come off the board to the same
11:01level that we saw in the past. And Dan was right because through the first three rounds, I don't count it right now.
11:08One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen.
11:12So 13 quarterbacks through the first four rounds in this same draft last year, 18 quarterbacks were drafted in the first four rounds.
11:18Oh, wow. So a pretty big difference in terms of how many quarterbacks were selected.
11:23And what Jack said picking two was, had he known that, he would have taken Gibbs and then probably come back and
11:29taken Lawrence and Caleb Williams or Lawrence and Purdy, whoever the case may be in terms of the second quarterback he would have drafted.
11:37And I think that's a better start. I think he did a great job because he ended up Ken Walker in round three, McConkie in round four.
11:44Tee Higgins, like he built a really good team despite going quarterback, quarterback, or not despite, but going quarterback, quarterback.
11:50This was, this was two very glaring approaches. Heath, if you look at this, went no quarterbacks until round seven when his
11:57quarterback, his first quarterback is CJ Stroud and he's going Stroud, Bryce Young, and then the Falcons duo.
12:02So he had to spend four picks for his quarterback.
12:05So I encourage you to read the story if you're in any super flex leagues this weekend or any drafts coming up
12:12and you could see a lot of different ways to go about building your team.
12:16And Rob Thomas, who was in the draft and he's in the chat right now, he says, can we recap the super
12:23flex league draft and roast me for taking Puka over Jamar Chase?
12:26And no, I won't because Puka averaged 23.6 points per game last year.
12:30Jamar Chase's best season, 23.7. I mean, obviously I would, I would take chase.
12:34Most people take chase, but you do you and there's no reason there is not a bad argument.
12:39Obviously you got the off field stuff, but Puka, if he's playing every game, he could easily be the best wide receiver again.
12:46All right. Next question from the draft of honors.
12:49This is from Dan Katona in my home league.
12:52I'm going against my fantasy arch nemesis, Kevin in week one.
12:55So I need two running backs, two receivers and a flex.
12:58He's got cook, gente, Mike Washington, Harvey and Gainwell.
13:01So we're going to go cook and gente. He needs two wide receivers out of Olave, Christian Watson, Parker Washington and Michael Wilson.
13:07Olave and Washington. That's what I was going to say.
13:10And then we need two flexes out of Watson, Wilson, Harvey and Gainwell.
13:14That's that's Christian Watson, Mike Wilson, RJ Harvey, Kenneth Gainwell.
13:17It's PPR. I think so. I think you go Watson, even though it's a tough matchup against Minnesota.
13:23And I would probably lean toward Wilson. But Gainwell is very interesting because I do think he's going to be very involved in the passing.
13:30OK. Emails. Fantasyfootball at CBSI dot com. Big contract today.
13:33Michael Wilson. Yes. Congratulations. From Jay and Joy-Z. How do you feel about that spelling of Joy-Z, Dan?
13:38Don't love it, but don't hate it. Any discussion of Jersey I'm good with?
13:42Most underrated state in the nation. It is. It really is.
13:46Unbiased opinion there. Can you do a YouTube poll just after Dan?
13:49We know how that's going to go. It has a bad bias against it.
13:53But continuing to Dan continue to bash Florida by every turn that he could when he was down here.
13:59I hated that state. Which state would you rather live in?
14:02Florida and New Jersey? I mean, look, you don't pay taxes, right?
14:06In Florida, so that's a good thing. But is there no income tax or something like that?
14:11No state income tax, yeah. State income tax. That's nice.
14:14But the reality is in Jersey, you got the better food.
14:17You got beaches that are just as close. You got mountains.
14:20I don't think that's... How long does it take you to get...
14:24The beaches are just as close. That can't be true.
14:27I mean, for some people maybe, but not for most people.
14:30How long does it take you to get to the beach?
14:33Too long. 40 minutes. You got the beaches are just as close.
14:37I'm probably shaving all five minutes, too. But obviously, I mean, this one, I mean, Ricky, let's not go crazy.
14:43Better food? Yeah, it's not even close. Jersey has better food than Florida.
14:46I think everyone, even Jamie, would concur on that.
14:49I don't know. I got great pizza in South Florida.
14:52I did too. Pizza time? Stop. Stop. Sorry. No, they don't listen.
14:56This is from Jay. He says, hey, Pete. I think I'm still sick from that, to be honest.
15:01Hey, Pete. Well, I could see that. The mushrooms on their pizza expire in May of 2029.
15:06So I think you've cut a little close there.
15:09Hey, Pete, Andre, and Andy, I think, oh, I think that's tennis players.
15:12Yeah, yeah. I know you guys are. You know the sport you can never beat me at?
15:17Yeah. I know you guys are pretty high on James Cook this year, but I haven't heard much discussion on the negatives
15:24of Cook towards, you know, other backs with a smaller physical frame, a large workload last year, and a quarterback who vultures rushing touchdowns.
15:31Please discuss, as I'm curious, is he maybe just another level of talent or the offense projects to be so good to
15:38overcome these potential negatives for James Cook? I think for starters, it's the talk in camp of him getting more involved in the passing game.
15:45Pete Carmichael coming over as a history of utilizing their running backs in the passing game.
15:50That's the start, I think, for any kind of hope to get, you know, for him to repeat what he did last year.
15:56I'm a little concerned just with the recent history of the rushing champion and losing 835 yards.
16:01Each of the last five rushing champions have lost 835 yards and six touchdowns.
16:06Two of those guys have been injured, so take that into consideration.
16:09So it's not the biggest sample size and injuries are factored into it.
16:13The only thing that I think is the saving grace, like you said, and then on top of that, Ty Johnson's banged
16:19up, who would be their passing downs guy. And so I don't think that's Ray Davis stepping into that.
16:25I think it's just more of James Cook. So with an offense that should be among the best in the NFL and
16:32a running back that just accomplished what he accomplished, like there's a lot to love about James Cook still.
16:37Yeah. I mean, look, the play calling could maybe hurt him a little bit in the state, like the emailer, Jay and
16:44Joyce, he asked about all the goal line carries that Josh Allen takes and he does.
16:48But James Cook gets a ton of them too, because when this team over the last couple of seasons, when they have
16:55gotten near the end zone, they are so incredibly run heavy.
16:58Their run rate, where have they, right? Last year, they were third in running back, running back rush attempts from the three yard line or closer.
17:06So rushing to rush attempts from the three yard line or closer, like, you know, that they have a lot because there's Josh Allen.
17:13I'm sorry. I'm stumbling here because I'm looking for this stupid stat, but they get very, very run heavy near the end zone.
17:20And so they, both of those guys can eat essentially.
17:23But I don't really see anything changing. Like he's really good.
17:26And if you look at his total numbers from last year, you have to remember that he barely played in week 18.
17:32So he averaged over 19 points per game with 12 rushing touchdowns in 16 games.
17:37He could do better. We had 18 the year before, right?
17:40You think so? Maybe that was 18 total touchdowns.
17:43He had 18 total touchdowns the year before in 16 games.
17:46Um, so I, I, he, I agree. Like he doesn't really feel like a typical round one pick at running back, but
17:53I think that's because there just aren't that many running backs that catch 50 balls anymore.
17:57It's not a prerequisite these days. Um, all right, let's take a break.
18:01I've taken, I've taken him like three times. Every time I do that, I take Ray Davis just to cover myself.
18:07There you go. Uh, let's take a break and come back with more of your emails at fantasy football at cbsi.com.
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20:54Toyota, let's go places. Just a reminder, everybody, that I have a live stream Friday.
20:59If you're watching live, Friday afternoon, noon Eastern, 12 to 1230, live stream, Q&A.
21:03Ask me anything you want, mostly about fantasy football.
21:06Here's one from- What about you? Did you nuke those burgers?
21:09What did you do with those burgers? Did you chuck them all in the oven?
21:13Called it a day? I, okay. I'll be honest with you.
21:17The read says I was going to cook the burgers and the hot dogs.
21:21I only cook the hot dogs. Oh. They were incredible.
21:24They were the best hot dogs I've had in a very long time.
21:28I still have the burgers. So I haven't made them.
21:31I love a good dog. You don't have dogs every now and then.
21:34They're always good when you, when you ran through them in.
21:38They're great. When you have kids, you'll have hot dogs.
21:41They're the easiest thing to make. I mean, nothing better than eating hot dogs that are going to expire in like two months.
21:47Hot dogs never expire, I feel. So probably not.
21:50All right, here's Aaron. He says, hey, Jerome, Le'Veon, and Willie.
21:53Jerome, Le'Veon, and Willie. These are all Steelers running backs.
21:56Yeah. I'm doing great today. I hit two of these.
21:59That's more than I hit in like a month in this show.
22:03I feel like everyone is ignoring the Steelers running backs, especially Rico Dattel.
22:07They're going around RB30 each. Last year, the two Steelers running backs were 16th and 17th in scoring because they combined for over 110 catches.
22:14Old man Rogers is still there and will be checking down a ton.
22:18Why is everyone so low on an RB duo that is a lock for 100 plus combined catches?
22:23It's a great call. I wish that there was more clarity on who was going to do what.
22:28And, you know, in theory, like you could, you should kind of rationalize it.
22:33Like Rico Dattel makes more sense to be the running downs guy and Jalen Warren makes more sense to be the passing downs guy.
22:40But Jalen Warren's coming off a year where he was great as the running downs guy.
22:44And Rico Dattel has a history of being a passing downs kind of option.
22:48So I think they're going to mix and match.
22:51I think it could be frustrating. I think they're appropriately priced.
22:54I've gone back and forth all off season. I've settled on Warren over Dattel just because I do think the pass catching role will be his.
23:02And that was so good for Kenneth Gainwell last year.
23:05But really, it's about if you just want to take a chance on like in the eliminator league that we're in.
23:11I just took Rico Dattel. I think it was like round eight as a fourth running back.
23:16So, you know, the floor is, I think, relatively safe for both of them.
23:20One of them may have an amazing ceiling. An injury could clearly open the doorway to one of these guys being a top 15 running back.
23:28But, you know, you hope they're just not cannibalizing each other on a week to week basis where one guy scores a
23:35touchdown, one guy catches four or five passes and the next week it flips.
23:39And you're just kind of frustrated. So, not exactly the type of backfield I'd want to have both of them.
23:45But I think as a third or fourth running back, they make plenty of sense.
23:4984 receptions last year for Kenneth Gainwell from Aaron Rodgers.
23:52Just an absurd number. I can't even imagine. Do you have the number, Adam, where he finished in full point PPR?
23:58Kenneth Gainwell had to be. He was top 10.
24:01I can tell you from week six. Yeah, RB1.
24:04From week six through 18. Because remember, like Gainwell didn't have that much of a role.
24:08And then week four, we had the inactive Warren.
24:11Gainwell has a big game. I'm pretty sure they had a bye week five.
24:15Week six through 18, Jalen Warren was RB21 per game.
24:18And Kenneth Gainwell was RB23 per game. For the full season, I do have it.
24:22But that's kind of like, that's the sample size I would look at.
24:26Because that's when both guys had their role. And it might be what we see from Dowdle.
24:31He was RB20 per game, Gainwell in full PPR.
24:3425 per game and half. 30 per game and none.
24:37So almost all of his value came on the 73 catches.
24:40And just keep in mind, Michael Pittman is a much better second receiver.
24:44No matter what Aaron Rodgers seemed to indicate yesterday.
24:47Michael Pittman's a much better second receiver than they had last year.
24:50It sounds like Roman Wilson's going to have a bigger role than he had last year.
24:55So you have different parts in the passing game plus a different coordinator.
24:59So the Arthur Smith dump off passes that we saw last season will be a little bit more downfield throws.
25:05I know that doesn't speak to what Rodgers does best, but it'll still be part of what the game plan is.
25:11So they'll take a few more shots down the field to DK Metcalf.
25:15I'm just expecting not as much of a robust role for them in the passing game, but still good enough that the floor should be there.
25:22Pretty sure in their last preseason game, Jalen Warren got the first series and Dowdle got the second.
25:28I think maybe Warren came back for third. I can't remember, but it wasn't like running down, passing down thing.
25:34All right, next one. There is no way Dan is getting this.
25:37Chris from Milwaukee says, dear Ray, Glenn, Michael, and Sam.
25:40Ray, Glenn. These Ace Ventura characters? I'm pretty sure they're Milwaukee Bucks.
25:44Ray Finkel. Ray Allen, Glenn Rice. Oh, yeah. Michael Red.
25:47Who's Sam? Hold on. Let me try to. Wait, who did you say Glenn was?
25:51Sam Cassell. Was it Glenn Rice? No, Glenn Robinson.
25:54What's wrong with Glenn Robinson? Yeah, even I need it.
25:57Sam Cassell. Sam Cassell. Sam Cassell. Nice. Okay. Come on, Adam.
26:00Okay. I think you should revisit your take on allowing suspended or out players to be put on the IR spot, particularly
26:06in deeper leagues where it matters way more. Over the past several years, the NFL landscape has dramatically changed.
26:12Fantasy football managers are trying to navigate a multitude of things that keep our players out, including things like concussions, soreness, and
26:19other injuries where they don't wind up on IR, mental health issues, contract issues, off-the-field drama, legal issues, social media issues, personality conflicts, et cetera.
26:26Combine that with running back committees, tricky coaches scheming up random players, and NFL politics affecting start sits, whatever that means, playing
26:32time, and how hard a team is trying. It has gotten tougher and tougher to field a competitive team, particularly in deeper leagues.
26:39While I was once a purist and a stickler for the rules, I've made a complete 180 on the IR spot.
26:45This is supposed to be fun. This isn't supposed to be stressful.
26:49The IR spot being just a tad more versatile to help cover some of the aforementioned events that lead to players being suspended and out can only help.
26:57I don't care if you punish the NFL player for a crime or offense committed, but I don't see why we should
27:04punish a fantasy manager for rostering him. I don't know if that's how he meant that to come out, especially when it's
27:10a sudden occurrence as opposed to a known issue.
27:13Yeah. I don't know how I feel about this.
27:16I mean, you make a good point. It is harder.
27:18It makes it easier for fantasy managers, but I don't know, man.
27:22But like, for example, it's not IR and it's like, okay, so then, you know, you're opening the door to possible things.
27:29Like you're really, it becomes, I don't want to say it's objective, but like, for example, like it makes a huge difference
27:35in where you draft Josh Jacobs, because if you're in a five bench league right now, or even a six bench league
27:42and you draft Josh Jacobs, he's just sitting on there the whole year.
27:45You can't put him in the IR, but now under this rule, you can like, I think you're right also about like,
27:52which injured players do we get to put on IR?
27:55Right. You know, it just leads to complications. I think a lot of fantasy cops, I think you got to have a hard and fast rule.
28:02So, so I, I've been in several leagues where you can place players who are out in IR spots to help you
28:09in this situation, you know, so player gets ruled out Wednesday, Thursday, whatever the case may be, you get an extra player to pick up.
28:16It's going to help you during bi-week. It's going to help you if you have multiple injuries.
28:21Typically what happens in these type of leagues, when you get to the following week and their status changes back before they're
28:28ruled out again, then you have to make a similar transaction to drop whoever you may have picked up or somebody else
28:34to sort of get your lineup right. So like gamer Eric right now says two IRs is just right.
28:40I don't disagree with that, but I do think that they have to be on IR.
28:45If you're making the conscious effort to draft Josh Jacobs.
28:48Now there are a lot of people who have drafted Jacobs already and then this news happened.
28:53So you got a little bit of a tough, you know, scenario.
28:56That being said, it is your decision to carry Josh Jacobs.
28:59You can either be proactive about it and say, I don't expect him to play this season.
29:05I'm going to drop him. Somebody else wants to carry this headache, then they carry it.
29:09But if that's what your league rules are, it should not be allowed to carry somebody who is not on an IR spot.
29:16If you're in dynasty right now, you're carrying Tyreek Hill.
29:19You're not dropping him because if he'll side with the team, everybody's going to want to pick him up, even though he may not be the same guy.
29:27So there's lots of different scenarios here. Um, you know, I think suspensions, uh, non IR injuries like Alvin Kamara, you know,
29:34he's probably going to miss two or three games.
29:36If he doesn't get to the fourth week, they decided not to place him on IR.
29:41It's just the nature of what your league is.
29:44So if your league decides that it has to be an IR spot to be placed on IR, I don't think that
29:50you should be allowed to place a suspension, a suspended player on it.
29:54You're making that decision to carry that player. It's not about a, uh, a moral conversation that we're going to have.
30:00It's just what the rules are, you know? So I think just understanding that if I'm going to draft a player that
30:07is under a scenario that's not injured, that is suspended, I have to deal with the consequences of that.
30:12Next comment from the chat. This is from the beginning of the chat.
30:16Adam is for sure a holiday pajama guy. You Siri really think I wear holiday pajamas?
30:21I don't even know what that means. So like Christmas time, he wears Christmas pajamas.
30:25Yeah, I'm surprised you call them pajamas. They're pajamas, as Amy just said.
30:29And Jamie just said, sorry. My mind is gone at this point.
30:33You know, this is my fourth podcast today. And one of them was a two and a half hour live stream.
30:39Wow. All for CBS. Yeah, it was a good day.
30:42Really unbelievable. I mean. And then I got sick at the end.
30:46This is the worst part. Everything was going great.
30:48And then I got a headache. And now I feel like I have to throw up out of nowhere.
30:54Did your draft go well? The auction. So Jacob went nuts and drafted Gibbs for 70 bucks in a super flex to start the auction.
31:01And I was like, all right. Out of 200?
31:04Out of 200. You guys shared the team together?
31:07Yeah, we tried to see how that would go.
31:09And then we recovered. Like, I feel like we got some good values.
31:13Gentie at 25. Higgins at 17. I like both of those.
31:16Our quarterbacks are horrific. We have Stroud. Jordan Love is our one.
31:20Stroud is our two. That's good. That is not good.
31:23I guess. Hopefully. All right. And then I think Bryce.
31:26Adam, do you know that, Dan, how many years have you worked there?
31:30You just had your 10 year anniversary? I just had my 10.
31:33I saw your 20 too. I just got the email for that.
31:37Great. Was I not supposed to say that? Yeah, we were going to do something about that tomorrow.
31:42Oh, no. With whom? Put Jamie in the room?
31:45They called me in a panic twice. He's never commissioned a league before in CBS, Adam.
31:49Do you know that? Dan Schneier? Yeah. First time commissioning a league.
31:53I had to call Jamie in panic where the draft was about.
31:56I had one of my best jokes. One of my best jokes in a while.
32:01Dan said, what happens if you have to hit pause too many times?
32:05Do you run out of pauses? Apparently there's another.
32:07There's another. No, no. This is a true thing, according to Dan, that there's another site that if you hit pause too
32:14many times, you time out on it. So he asked me that question.
32:18And I said, oh, it's just, it's easy. You just put a few more quarters in your computer and you get more pauses.
32:24Or you do up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right.
32:28There is another site that I've heard has amended it since, but there was a time in the past where you had a maximum amount of pauses.
32:36And once you ran out, one time we ran out during an auction, we had to go to Google Sheets to finish the auction.
32:43It was devastating. I've never heard that before. I was laughing my ass off when he said that.
32:48All right, listen, we got to go a little faster here.
32:51Here's a trade from Matt. Matt said he's been offered a trade in a 12 team full PPR league.
32:57I was offered Ashton Gentty for my Devante Smith and Marshawn Lloyd.
33:01Is it Dynasty set? Nope. Devante Smith and Marshawn Lloyd for Gentty?
33:04Yeah. I would rather have Smith and Lloyd. Okay.
33:07All right. Next up is an email from Ryan.
33:09Ryan thinks we're too low on Patrick Mahomes because he's optimistic about Eric Biennemi as the offensive coordinator instead of Matt Nagy.
33:16And Mahomes was QB1 and QB2 per game under Biennemi the last time he had him there.
33:21Was Tyreek Hill on that roster? Yep. You know, Mahomes had one.
33:24Ryan, Tyreek Hill? Well, Mahomes had one great season with Juju Smith-Schuster as their leading receiver.
33:29And then since then, it has been all downhill the last three seasons.
33:33Although last year was pretty good too, but more so as a rusher.
33:37But I think that that was the year they went to the Super Bowl.
33:41Juju was their leading receiver. Maybe not Kelsey. I'm sure it was their leading receiver.
33:45But Juju was their leading wide receiver. And that was probably a Biennemi year.
33:50I'm not sure. But anyway, what do you think about that?
33:53I mean, I think most people have sort of made the case that Biennemi is better for the run game We kind
33:59of give Andy Reid like the passing game, you know, assignment role, I guess.
34:03We sort of assign it. But what do you think?
34:06Biennemi was there when Mahomes had his best seasons.
34:09And a lot of that had to do, as Dan just said, had to do with peak Travis Kelsey, peak Tyreek Hill.
34:16So it's easy to sort of just roll the ball out and say, go play.
34:20And those guys are going to be special because they are.
34:23So now you're walking into a situation where Mahomes coming off a devastating knee injury.
34:28Thank God he's back. And it's going to be fun to see him play.
34:32But we'll see what version of Mahomes we get.
34:34I think if you look at the last three seasons, last year, big time fantasy bounce back, mostly because of the rushing.
34:41The two years prior, 20 point something, 20 point something, under 21 fantasy points per game.
34:46That's not an elite fantasy quarterback. So when you start to compare him to a lot of guys, and so, you know,
34:52Caleb Williams is probably like QB 10 for a lot of people.
34:56I know Dan has them a little higher, but like ADP, like QB 10.
35:00I wouldn't even put him in that range of guys right now.
35:03You start to talk about him compared to Stafford and Goff and Knicks.
35:07And for me, it's Kyler Murray and Jordan Love.
35:10Like, I think he's outside the top 12. And for me, he's outside the top 15.
35:15Does he still have the range of possibility to get to 20 to 24 points?
35:19For sure. He's Patrick Mahomes. You have a 36-year-old Travis Kelsey.
35:22We don't know what version of Rashi Rice we're going to get.
35:26And to, I think, your point about being to me with the run game, the run game should be significantly better because of Kenneth Walker.
35:33So if you want to be in on Mahomes, be in on Mahomes as a backup.
35:38Be in on Mahomes as a guy that could still be a league winner if things go right.
35:43But I just don't want to trust him as a number one only quarterback that I'll draft.
35:48Yeah, but one point I do want to make about Mahomes is that I've sort of short-changed him a little bit in
35:55saying that all of the improvements he made last year was rushing.
35:58He actually did have a better passing season. He was on pace for 4,356 yards, 27 touchdowns.
36:03The 17-game pace the two years before that, well, the year before that was 4,174.
36:08So he increased his 17-game pace by about 200 yards, but it's still not quite enough.
36:13He's still nowhere near the 48, 49, 5,000, 48, 49, 100, 5,000.
36:16He's not getting back to that. Yeah, because he doesn't have the downfield threat.
36:20They're just not an explosive offense anymore. And they don't have to be.
36:24He got a little bit better at that last year.
36:27I did want to say that, but it wasn't enough.
36:30Okay. This is from Andre. Fortunately for me, we had our 10-team PPR, two-flex draft prior to the Jacobs news, and I
36:36snagged Marshawn Lloyd in the last round. After the news broke, I traded David Montgomery, who was my RB4, and Marshawn Lloyd for T.
36:44Higgins to the Josh Jacobs manager. Montgomery and Lloyd for Higgins.
36:47So do you guys like that trade? I do, knowing that you still have three other guys that should be productive.
36:53Look, Montgomery and Lloyd could both be top-20 caliber running backs.
36:56The history of the Packers' lead rusher has been great under LaFleur, and I think Montgomery has a chance to bounce back in a big way.
37:04I don't think it's going to be Joe Mixon in the year that he went to Houston, but they've been waiting, hoping for a lead rusher.
37:12And once upon a time when he was in Chicago, he was a very good fantasy option.
37:17I think we kind of get lost in that because of what he did in Detroit as the second guy.
37:23But I think it'll surprise people as a pass catcher.
37:25We'll see if he holds off what he marks.
37:28That being said, if T. Higgins hits, you're talking about a top-10 caliber wide receiver.
37:33So you traded two top-20-ish running backs for one top-10 caliber receiver.
37:36I think that's the right way to win. I would have maybe looked for a little bit better than Higgins, but that's certainly a good trade.
37:44And neither of them were starting. I'm in on the Higgins, though.
37:47I know it's – yeah. Like, if you just think about it with Higgins, there's some really interesting stats that could, if
37:54you prorate it over a season, be really – like, over the last 16 games with Joe Burrow, he's what?
38:00Wide receiver 8, I think I saw, or wide receiver 4?
38:03I think I saw – what was it, the stat you had earlier?
38:07He was wide receiver 4 in 2024. Over the last 16 with Joe Burrow, I think it is.
38:12Okay. He's either 4 or 8. Either way, it's top 8.
38:15And then Jamie's stat, what was it, 21 touchdowns the last 20 seconds?
38:19I was going to say, you love the touchdown guys.
38:22And he's among the best. 21 touchdowns in his last 27 games.
38:26And there's no reason to think it will stop, right, Jamie?
38:29Like, if he's healthy, like, I don't see – like, touchdown regression is a thing.
38:33I get it. But, like, in an offense like that, there's no – like, Burrow is a clear-cut guy we can count
38:40on for a certain amount of touchdowns. They have an easy schedule.
38:43And Jamar Chase gets double-teamed and shaded coverage in the red zone.
38:47So Higgins is one-on-one all the time. It's a pretty easy path.
38:51We all like Higgins. But this is why I want to have this show tomorrow, this stream, because I never get to mention these types of things.
38:59T. Higgins was on pace for 109 targets with Joe Burrow last year.
39:02He's got one of the – he has the lowest target per outrun rate of any wide receiver that we'd even consider taking in the first four rounds.
39:11And we take him – I'll take him in the third round.
39:14So, I mean, he was able to be a top 15 receiver last year, 16th per game, with a very low target per outrun rate.
39:22Two years ago, he had a pretty good target per outrun rate, and he was top five.
39:27So I think you could say if it gets back up to that level, he's going to be awesome.
39:32But I don't really think that it will. I would say that Higgins might have 30 fewer targets than Garrett Wilson.
39:38He might even have fewer targets than Zay Flowers.
39:41You just have to be aware of it. He needs the touchdowns, but we are pretty confident it will happen.
39:47Sorry to touch you off, Dan. No, that's totally fair.
39:50It's the same thing with Adams last year. If you don't love Higgins at his cost, not that this is part of
39:56the conversation because of the trade, but if you don't love Higgins at his cost, there's Devontae Adams.
40:02If you're chasing touchdowns, there's Jamison Williams. If you're looking at that profile, there's Christian Watson.
40:06There are guys that go later. Mike Evans, round six.
40:09Mike Evans, round six. You say consistently round six these days too.
40:13It's crazy. Yeah, if you want to buy the dip, there's a lot working against Evans too, but he seems to be
40:19healthy and ready to go for week one. And when we come back, we'll find out why Dan Schneier said, I'm not your buddy, guy.
40:27Or I'm not your guy, buddy. I think he messed up the South Park quote.
40:31We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. I recently took a trip to Memphis for the FFT Draftathon.
40:37While we were there, we also got to experience a little bit of what makes Memphis so special, including some of the food the city is famous for.
40:45We had Memphis style barbecue with pulled pork, ribs, and all the classic sides.
40:49It was an incredible trip, especially getting to spend time with everyone involved, enjoy some great local food, and support a cause
40:56that means so much to all of us. And while I was away enjoying the trip, my place back home was just sitting empty.
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42:26Livemomentus.com, promo code FFT. By the way, I forgot to mention, Fantasy Cops will be on the show today.
42:32We got some good ones, good Fantasy Cops. Yeah, we've been so long, we're long overdue for some good cops.
42:38Yeah, we got some good ones here. And by the way, Andre in the previous email said that 11 a.m.
42:44to 12 p.m. is 100% the afternoon, and it's not even a question.
42:48You're a little aggressive there, Andre. I think it starts at 11.30, but I do thank you for your support.
42:54Next email of support comes from Jesse. No wonder you read it.
42:57Somebody supports your stupid decision. Well, here's this. Jesse says to me, Dan might have beaten you in tennis, but I'm afraid
43:04you edged him out trying to sing the Fantasy Cops theme.
43:07If Dan disputes my assertion, let him know I'm a trained musician and can hear every note you guys got wrong or right.
43:14That's awesome. I told you I'm tone deaf. I mean, I felt in my head like I was doing a decent job,
43:20but clearly that was not the case. How'd I go again?
43:23No, never again. It's just funny that you're tone deaf.
43:26You have this false sense of self-esteem sometimes. You're tone deaf.
43:30You were so sure. You know I play guitar.
43:32I have some musical ability. You're so sure you had me beat on that until someone had to finally tell you, no, you're wrong.
43:39And also, let's go back to three years ago.
43:42Dan Schneier looked at me in the eye across the camera that he was really, really good at rock, paper, scissor.
43:48He was so sure. And I whooped his ass in rock, paper, scissor.
43:52So, like, you just have to come down. There was a delay on the camera.
43:57We all know that. It was a small game sample size.
44:00Over a large sample size, I will beat you in rock, paper, scissor.
44:04By the way, Jamie, I want to throw this to you now while we're going off track a little bit here.
44:10I may or may not be. It's not finalized yet.
44:13I got to talk to Adam, but I think so.
44:16Drafting in his home auction league, which I'm very excited about for a lot of reasons.
44:20Mostly because I can be the guy that bit him up on Isaiah Pacheco before he gets Jameer Gibbs.
44:26But we may be playing some tennis beforehand. Give me a quick prediction on what those two sets will look like.
44:32Are you getting pizza before? No. It's New Jersey.
44:35It's going to be cool out. It's New York, buddy.
44:38New York. New York. Even better. It's going to be cool out.
44:41I'm going to say 6-1, 6-4. Okay. I'm going to try to beat that.
44:46I want to beat that. I wanted to be under.
44:49Yeah. By the way, Dan's been going at it with somebody in the chat today.
44:53He's just like, today is not the day to mess with Dan.
44:57Today is not the day. I'm on hour six of podcasting today and I'm sick.
45:01This is not the day. If you're going to come in the chat and just spew negativity toward me, I'm just going
45:07off on you because I won't go too far on this, but like, I don't know, man.
45:12I just know I would never go to a chat of somebody's podcast and do that.
45:17So, I don't know. I got a question for you, Dan.
45:20We'll leave it at that. From S-Mac. Or smack.
45:23But S-Mac. I have Ken Walker. You just call it S-Mac?
45:26No, it is. It's called smack S-Mac? No, it's S-Mac, but like, it's two different words, but I said smack.
45:32I have Ken Walker. I want to pick up Emmett Johnson.
45:36I also have Jonathan Taylor, Jordan Mason, and Marshawn Lloyd.
45:38I'd have to drop either Makai Lemon or Mike Washington to get Emmett Johnson.
45:43If you had Ken Walker, because I know, Dan, you're a big Emmett Johnson guy.
45:47Yes. If you had Ken Walker, would you drop Makai Lemon or Mike Washington to get Emmett Johnson?
45:52Great question. It was Makai Lemon and who? And Washington?
45:55Yeah. I'm so high on Emmett Johnson that I would.
45:58I don't know if that's the right strategy. I think we talk a lot about, on this show, about handcuffs.
46:04And generally, I think the advice that I give, and I think you're with me on this, Jamie, and you as well, Adam, is not to tart.
46:12Like, you're less so buying your own handcuffs, you're more so trying to buy other handcuffs.
46:17Is that right? That's how Jamie does it. My philosophy is, if I drafted that running back early, I'm drafting him because
46:23I'm expecting him to be great, not because I'm expecting him to get hurt.
46:28I'm looking to cash in on somebody else's handcuff.
46:30That being said, if you love the scenario so much and it makes sense, then it's okay to take your own.
46:36You heard me say earlier, like if I draft James Cook, the last pick I take in almost every draft is Ray
46:43Davis just because he's almost always available. I think in this case, not to cut you off, Dan, this is probably 10-team
46:49league, I'm guessing, because if Emmitt Johnson's on waivers and you're talking about dropping those players, your bench is probably pretty strong.
46:56Are you ever going to play Mekhi Lemon? Maybe.
46:59Maybe. If Ken Walker gets hurt, are you ever going to play Emmitt Johnson?
47:03Yeah. One billion percent. Yeah. I agree with you on that.
47:06I also feel really strongly about Emmitt Johnson. You know, that goes back to the Heath's Dynasty League debacle where I lost
47:12out on Emmitt Johnson because I was too slow to the trigger to figure out the rules and the cut down day.
47:19Thank you, Adam, by the way, for expanding our benches in Bake Burger.
47:23I really appreciate that. Doing the right thing there.
47:25Oh, you're very welcome. Oh, what a horrible trade I had to make tonight, by the way.
47:30What did you have to do? Oh, what was that?
47:33Well, you see my quarterbacks? No. In Bake Burger?
47:36Quarterbacks are Justin Herbert, Tua, and Anthony Richardson. You want to compete this year.
47:40So Jamie traded a second round pick in 2027 for Geno Smith.
47:44Oh, that's terrible. I'll tell you what. I'll give you Deshaun Watson.
47:47But I respect it, too. I'll give you Deshaun Watson for a first round pick.
47:52What? It's very tough. Heath has a very good philosophy on quarterbacks.
47:55Quarterbacks in super flex leagues are never cheaper than they are in draft day.
47:59And so having to trade, and I asked Heath and Dave, they didn't know which league I was trading in.
48:05Heath is in that league. I said, what would you think you have to give up to get Geno Smith?
48:11And without hesitation, he said, at least a second, if not a package for it.
48:16And so I just looked at it as, I thought I'd offer you for Cam Ward.
48:20I thought you would say no. I was looking at the teams that are out of it and probably need draft picks.
48:27I'm not out of it anymore. You're out of it.
48:30I thought about offering Dan for Daniel Jones, but Dan's a competitor.
48:33He wants to keep his third quarterback. Yeah. So this is a league where there's not a lot of great third quarterbacks or fourth quarterbacks on rosters.
48:41So you have to overpay. And I like my roster a lot.
48:45I don't hate this move, by the way. I hate it.
48:48No, I don't. You don't. This is why you never compete in dynasty leagues.
48:52I kind of agree with Jamie on that. Geno Smith is bad.
48:56The Jets are terrible. That's not necessarily. When they get off to a horrible start, they're going to bench Geno Smith.
49:02You're going to have no quarterback. And then he's not going to be a starter for the rest of his career.
49:08For the rest of his career. Yeah, but you're, again, you're not wrong in what you're saying.
49:13But the flip side of that is if he does stay the quarterback for the entire season, to get a quarterback in
49:20that league, you have to give up either multiple first-round picks for somebody good or multiple picks in general.
49:25And so, listen, this was what I was kicking around.
49:28I was kicking around potentially trading Jordan Tyson for a quarterback because, again, competing now, essentially giving up a first-round pick for a quarterback.
49:35And I didn't want to do that. So, I can sacrifice a second-round pick, which I think is going to be late
49:42second and still be competitive and still keep the core of my roster.
49:46Right. All right. I don't hate this. And I also think, like, if Jamie's one.
49:50Can we go to Fantasy Cops now? We'll run out of time.
49:54Okay. What are we running out of time for?
49:56Yeah, I don't know why there's always a time with Adam.
50:00Because I don't want people to have to wait an hour to start hearing Fantasy Cops.
50:04Like, I get 15 emails a week for Fantasy Cops.
50:07They obviously want to hear it. I love the cops.
50:10I'm in. All right. Here we go. Fantasy Cops.
50:13Brooklyn Omar is here. This isn't a decision-based Fantasy Cops.
50:16More of a topic of discussion. Do you guys offer slow-draft hostage negotiation services?
50:20I'm drafting at 11, and the 12 manager holds up the draft every evening until it is paused overnight from 11 p.m.
50:26to 7 a.m. That's so unfair. He's essentially holding the draft hostage for 12 to 15 hours every time it's his turn to pick.
50:34I know the slow draft is to accommodate for people all over the world with different schedules, but it's like he's emailing
50:40you guys every night asking who to pick next, which he isn't.
50:44It's ridiculous. What do we say to Brooklyn Omar?
50:46I'm with Brooklyn Omar here. This is really just like, it's kind of like, it's just bad etiquette, I guess is the best way to describe it.
50:54It's not technically against the rules, and this is the one problem you run into if you have a slow draft so
51:01close to the start of the season, or really at any point once training camp starts.
51:05Let's say today it was like a season-ender. Thank God it was a knock on wood for Swift.
51:11All of a sudden, this guy's sitting on his pick, and he gets Kyle Monunga, and that's not fair.
51:16So I don't know how you avoid this. That's such a great story for that, by the way.
51:22Keep going. Yeah, I don't know how you avoid this, though.
51:25It's just bad etiquette. It's bad etiquette, and it's just something to keep in mind when you're deciding if people want to,
51:31if you want to keep people in the league next year or to do slow drafts again next year.
51:37If someone's going to do this to you, you got to make it clear, like, hey, the clock is there really for, to move you along.
51:45It's not for you to use the entire clock, and especially if you're ending up in a spot where you're going to be keeping everybody overnight.
51:52Like, you know, people want to draft. I'm in four slow drafts right now.
51:57There's one that I commission, and I just text everybody when they're up.
52:00I don't expect them to pick right away, but I give them a notification to say, hey, you're up.
52:06Next person's on the clock. I'm in a league where it's for my eight-year-old's baseball team, and there's no clock on it,
52:13and it's just, hey, if we get to the early part next week, I'll put a clock on it.
52:18It's not, you know, some of the kids are involved with this, mostly the parents picking, and there's half the people in
52:25the league who are like, you got to speed this up, and there are half the people who are like, oh, I
52:31forgot that I'm even in this league. You know, it's just really casual for fun.
52:36So there's different ways to go about this, so we have this office league.
52:40It's now down to 18 people. I think at one point, it was up to like 24 people in the league.
52:46Dave used to be in this league. He's no longer in it.
52:49Dave was once on the clock, and this shows you how far it goes back.
52:54Brett Favre announced he was coming out of retirement.
52:57Oh, that year. Dave picked Brett Favre. If you recall, the starter at that point, prior to Favre getting the job, was Sage Rosenfels.
53:04Yes. Sage Rosenfels had already been picked. We are probably double-digit rounds.
53:07That's awesome. So 24 teams, double-digit rounds, you know, do the math.
53:11The manager who took Sage Rosenfels was so pissed.
53:13And publicly, in the league, in the office, this is when we were in the office all the time, you got to
53:20give me Brett Favre where I took Sage Rosenfels.
53:23And obviously, I'm with Dave on this point because it's just the nature of the league.
53:27No way. You know, this is just how it broke.
53:30What would happen in the middle of the season if Favre got hurt and he had Rosenfels?
53:35You know, the flip side was that, you know, would you say, oh, you owe me Favre to modify this?
53:41We've since gone to Team QB for this league.
53:44Oh, yeah. So that was the impetus of changing that rule.
53:47But this guy was so mad. I've never, and like a quiet, mild-mannered guy, so mad.
53:52Wow. I don't understand what he's mad at. He was mad at that because it was a slow draft and that if this was a regular draft.
54:00I can understand being mad at that. I can't understand being mad at Dave.
54:04He wasn't mad at Dave. He wasn't mad at the situation.
54:07But he basically was like, you guys have to give me Brett Favre and commissioner.
54:12You're like, no, we're not giving you Brett Favre.
54:14I would really appreciate your guidance. Here's the story.
54:17During my home league draft this past Sunday, August 30th, Josh Jacobs was falling during the draft due to his recent ad on the commissioner exemplist.
54:25He ended up getting chosen in the fifth round by a manager who temporarily ended up on auto draft.
54:30Josh Jacobs' status on our platform is NA, which based on our current league rules does not allow them to be stashed in an IR spot.
54:38Correct. The league voted in previous years to allow suspended players in the IR, but we've never voted on NA players.
54:44The manager immediately took to the league chats and asked for a rule change to allow NA players in the IR spot, obviously beneficial to him.
54:52Another manager shot down the proposal since it was after the draft.
54:55The manager then messaged the commissioner, me, about wanting to have a vote to change the rules.
55:00Basically, I won't keep going on here. He says, what should I do?
55:04If you allow suspended players to be put in IR spots, Jacobs qualifies.
55:08You think so? He's not suspended. I don't care.
55:11That's just being stupid with the nitpicking stuff. I don't think you should allow suspended players to be in the IR though.
55:17I totally agree with that, but again, as we go back to it, if you're allowing a rule to happen, because you always do that.
55:25Well, because you like to change the rules. Do what?
55:27You don't, they already have a rule that says they're allowed suspended players and you're like, well, change your rule.
55:33Yeah. Make fantasy better. I don't know what to tell you.
55:37So there's change your rule. We'll put that in a box, put it off to the side.
55:42All right. There's a current rule that we're ruling on here.
55:45You would be such a terrible judge and maybe a worse lawyer.
55:48The thing we're discussing is their rule. We're not discussing change their rule.
55:52True. We're fixing their rule. Their crappy rule. Okay.
55:55So let's fix their crappy rule. You want to call it crappy rule?
55:59You are entitled to it. Oh yeah, I will.
56:01You're entitled to whatever adjectives you want to put in front of their rule.
56:06Their bleep rule is suspended players are allowed to be placed in IR.
56:09That should be where Josh Jacobs qualifies. It shouldn't be this NA stuff.
56:13Exemplist. Exemplist and suspension should go hand in hand.
56:16Maybe. Judge Dan Schneier. We almost had, that would be so bad.
56:19We almost had. So wait a minute. You committed robbery?
56:22No, no, no. You're going to jail for murder.
56:25Sorry. We almost had a nightmare scenario in my home league auction, which was also Sunday.
56:30We started our auction literally like minutes after the news broke and no one was like on Roto World or whatever.
56:36Is Roto even a thing anymore? No one was on CBSSports.com and so nobody saw the news and like Jacob gets nominated
56:42and we had everyone live at the draft set for one manager and the one manager was on the phone and was
56:49like, you guys know he's put on the Exemplist, right?
56:52We're all like, what? It was like literally minutes of sports.
56:55Oh, you didn't even know. None of us knew.
56:58I thought you knew. No, because we were like locked into like auction mode and it wasn't like we're checking phones and stuff like for news.
57:06And so like, if he hadn't said that and he was just like, I'll let them just bid like crazy, they would
57:12have, we would have, it would have been a normal Josh Jacobs bid and then we would have found out like whenever
57:19we found out it would have been too late.
57:21Here's Judge Schneier. I don't know if I could do this impression without laughing.
57:25It was like, I thought you were not guilty and then I found out you were from Florida, the worst state on earth.
57:32I don't know who the heck would want to live there.
57:35It's not the worst state on earth. Not terrible food, cold mushrooms on your pizza.
57:40I don't know who would want to live in this weather.
57:43It rains every single day. You are so guilty.
57:46All right. It just takes so long to get places.
57:49Everything's like a 20 to 25 minute drive. It's crazy.
57:52Oh God, I'm going out to, to like close to Jersey on Saturday.
57:55It's going to take me out like two hours, buddy.
57:58Yeah. From where you live in the Boondies. From Steven, Fantasy Cops, I need help.
58:03Auction Keeper League where you can keep three players from the previous season at the dollar amount they were drafted.
58:09Our League decided this off season, not a unanimous vote, that we would change the roster construction from two running backs and
58:15three receivers to two running backs, two receivers, and a flex.
58:18That's actually not that important. This part is. We also are going to remove kickers and DSTs from the auction and draft them in a snake format.
58:26I am a Brandon Aubrey manager and I have him at one dollar and I had a terrible year and I was
58:33going to keep Brandon Aubrey for one dollar. But remember, they removed kickers from the auction and now they have to do them in a snake draft.
58:41I was informed by my commissioner that I could keep Aubrey, but I...
58:45Oh, wait, no. Oh, he wants to keep him for zero dollars.
58:48He wants to keep him for zero dollars because they removed kickers from the auction.
58:53The commissioner said, I can keep him, but I have to pay the one dollar keeper fee for Aubrey.
58:58I argue that I should be allowed to keep him for zero since everyone else will get their kicker and DST in
59:05a snake format and I shouldn't be penalized for keeping a player from last year's draft under the roster construction of last year's season.
59:12I would love to hear Dan's take on this.
59:15Am I crazy? You don't want to hear my take on this, buddy.
59:18I mean, what the heck are we doing for so many reasons?
59:22You're right, by the way, so I'll start by saying that.
59:25You're right. There should be no scenario where you have to keep the kicker for more than what they're doing in this
59:32thing, but the problem I have, and again, this is going to mess with Jamie because he's not going to, and I
59:38respect it, Jamie, I'm just going to go again off track, but what kind of league doesn't have inflation for their keeper prices?
59:45What kind of league are we doing where you keep the player for the price you bid on?
59:50So you just nominate a kicker for a dollar, nobody bids on him, but I keep him for a dollar.
59:56Like, are we just keeping players for the same price?
59:59Like, I kind of feel like if you're keeping a kicker, you do have to play.
60:04of keeper leagues work. No, all keeper leagues have either percentage it goes up by or it's a flat fee.
60:10You never do it. Judge Dan. Never do what you won them for in the auction.
60:15You drove 30. 15 different auction keeper leagues. You've never ever done the exact price you won them on.
60:20Anyway, if you're keeping a player that has to be some penalty.
60:24You drove 30 at 25 mile per hour zone.
60:26What kind of a zone is it at least 30 miles per hour?
60:30Right. I might say that to a cop if they pull me over and that type of thing.
60:36But, that wouldn't work out well. But, at least it would work better if I was a truck driver.
60:41But, that's a throwback. Yeah. That's a throwback. I think for this season it should be all keeper rules are the same no matter the position.
60:49But, moving forward if you're going to keep a kicker you're not allowed to keep a kicker at the SD after this
60:55since they changed it knowing that he still had the opportunity or any manager still had the opportunity to keep him for this year.
61:02Do you think he should be able to keep Aubrey for one or zero?
61:07I think if he was going to keep him for zero before this rule then he should be allowed to keep him for zero.
61:14I don't think he was. No, he's going to keep him for one.
61:17He was going to keep him for one but then they So then he's got to keep him for one.
61:23It's either you keep him for one or you don't keep him at all.
61:28But what does he do in the snake draft then he has to draft a second kicker.
61:33No, he doesn't. Just get the pick. No, he just loses the pick I guess.
61:37Vikings 20 2008 or whenever that was. Remember that year?
61:40I do remember that year. That's great. All right.
61:43Well, we can oh man people are just trashing Florida here.
61:46Yeah, I mean look I don't hate Florida. I don't want to make it seem that way.
61:51There are great things about Florida. We had a great time down there.
61:55I love being in the office. I think the places we ate were all good with the exception of the one Adam suggested.
62:01No, it's true. I hate to say it but the Gotham City Burger was amazing.
62:06Jamie, where'd you take us? Whatever your suggestion was.
62:09How about Charm City Burger? How about Charm City Burger?
62:12Charm City Burger was amazing. The place you took us, Jamie, was very good.
62:16Was it that the cafe? Jet Runaway Cafe, yeah.
62:18That was very good. I had a great lunch there.
62:21Did not get sick after it. And then, I think it was Dave gave me a suggestion for a dinner.
62:27I had one on my own. And then Adam takes me to the junk place and gets everybody sick.
62:33I got another fantasy cops here. It gets everybody sick.
62:36The one guy who got sick. That is so dead right there.
62:39Live fantasy cops from Red. I just had a disaster draft.
62:43One league member didn't show up and it auto-drafted.
62:45Awful team. Four quarterbacks by the ninth round. Now that guy isn't answering anyone so he's kicked out of the league.
62:51We are thinking we make it an auto team throughout the year.
62:55Any suggestion on how to make this fair? So, it's either you just, as the commissioner, there, I know what you do on CPS.
63:02You can do it, I think, on other sites.
63:05There's an optimal lineup button. You set the optimal lineup and just play it out as is.
63:10the only problem with that is when you get to bye weeks and there's multiple players on a bye and you're not making ad drops for that team.
63:18So, you can just do the easy thing which is whoever plays that team that week gets a win and just call it a day.
63:25I think that you should try to find a replacement.
63:28I think, you know, just like... But who would be willing to take that on if it's a pay lead?
63:34Don't make them pay. Don't make them pay. Just get someone to do it.
63:38Otherwise, whoever plays that team twice is going to have a huge advantage.
63:42I know. Are they eligible to win money if they take over that team but not pay?
63:47I think so. Yeah. I mean, it's going to be pretty hard for them to win money.
63:52I think I would prefer to just... You got somebody in the chat that just said they'll do it.
63:58There you go. There you go. Next man. And his name is Next Man Up.
64:02I mean, you couldn't possibly be any... I couldn't be more keen.
64:06All right. Jamie, can you comment on this? I would take Dan to...
64:10No, it doesn't say that. It says, take Dan to Abe and Louie's in Boca.
64:14Yep. Great restaurant. I would highly recommend it. Why didn't we go?
64:18It's a little out of all price ranges for the time or whatever the heck that's...
64:22For regular lunch. The name of that place was Kitchen Time Pizza Go Clock.
64:27It was a little far. Dave took you to Chicken Kitchen.
64:30That was good. Oh, that was another good hit.
64:32Chicken Kitchen was great. The curry mustard sauce was phenomenal.
64:35Yeah. Chicken Kitchen is better than pizza. It's usually called Mustard Curry, not Curry Mustard, but yeah.
64:40Mustard Curry sauce. Whatever. It was good. At Gotham City Burgers, they call it...
64:45The Charm City Burger. That was the best meal we had by far.
64:48That was one of the better burgers I've had like anywhere.
64:52Charm City is one of the best burgers. Somehow was like as good as anything I get around here in Jersey, New York.
64:58That's tough to get to. Unbelievable. I mean, it says a lot.
65:02It says a lot. Can you imagine... By the way, later...
65:05How far out of your bubble do you arrange to get food?
65:09Very far. Wherever. I did a pizza tour once of all the best spots in New York.
65:14No, I'm not talking about like a special thing.
65:16Like when you want to go get your special sandwich or like, you know...
65:21Well, I got a great Italian deli that's 10 minutes away.
65:24Okay. So, I don't need to go that far for that.
65:27I have some spots I hit. What was I got?
65:30Actually, he just turns around and opens up his freezer to get an old...
65:34I can't believe it. Oh, hold on. It's settled down and I feel so much better now which is great.
65:40Let's see what's in the fridge now. let's see it.
65:43Let's see the fridge. You can't complain about... No, no, you got to do it now.
65:48The fridge or the freezer? Both. It's not good.
65:50Yeah, I have a... Yeah, let's see the freezer here.
65:53I also have a comment to make. What do we got in there?
65:57Give us the play-by-play. What's in there? I see some ice cream.
66:01We got ice cream. We got pineapple, coconut, frozen pops.
66:04We got some shredded hash browns. Why are you on me?
66:07Yeah, go to Dan. Some beef burgers, chicken, chile verde, Trader Joe's.
66:11There we go. Nothing great. Nothing great, no. And what's in the fridge?
66:14No, Why do you not use this door? What do you mean?
66:18Like this? The door is empty. No, open the door.
66:21You have all that space in the door. Why don't you use the door?
66:25What are you talking about? Open the freezer again.
66:28Open the freezer. The freezer door. Yeah, the side, you know, the door.
66:31Oh yeah, I'm not utilizing the side. There's really not that much in here in general, to be honest.
66:37The cold air feels really nice though when I'm feeling this stuff.
66:41I have a question. We're not going to go to the fridge.
66:44We'll save the fridge for another episode. No, you can't complain about what you're doing.
66:49I don't want to go to the fridge. That's fine.
66:52But a question for you is, does your roommate care that you have completely taken over the fridge and freezer with your bumper stickers?
66:59Entirely your bumper stickers? No, actually now nobody lives on this level.
67:02There's two people who live downstairs. Nobody lives on this level.
67:05So it's just me. This is your fridge? No.
67:08I have everything, the whole room. Oh, that's awesome.
67:11That is nice. But I don't do anything with it because I'm really lazy.
67:15And I used to cook, man. I don't know.
67:18I just stopped cooking at some point and I got real lazy with it.
67:22Well, I had two things. I cooked today. I cooked amazing, great chicken thighs with couscous and corn on the cob.
67:28Sounds good. But I went to the Mount Kisco Diner yesterday and you would have killed me if you saw what I
67:34Don't tell me you did the chicken teriyaki thing again.
67:37I ordered a egg white omelet with turkey, mushroom, tomato.
67:40What time of the day was it? One. Dude, that's only acceptable in the morning.
67:45That's brunch. 1 p.m. It's time to get lunch.
67:47It's time to get one of their good lunches.
67:50First of all, say that again. Egg light, egg white.
67:53You couldn't even put the yolks in. Even the yolks are good for you.
67:57You're wrong about that. I knew you did. I'm a guy who thinks egg yolks are bad for me.
68:03Dumbest take in the world thinking egg yolks are bad for you.
68:06The yolk is the best part of the egg.
68:09By far, look it up, do some research. Now, what would you put in that omelet?
68:14It was turkey, broccoli, tomato, and mushrooms. It was like, it was like one of those.
68:18What do you mean? Like cold cut turkey or like ground?
68:22No, like, like not cold cut turkey, not ground turkey.
68:25No, it wasn't ground turkey. It was like turkey.
68:27It was the Thanksgiving turkey. Pieces of that. Sick Thanksgiving, dry Thanksgiving turkey.
68:31It happened to be pretty good. That's, is that chat?
68:34Help me out here. Is that not the worst sounding omelet you've ever heard of in your life?
68:39Egg whites, no yolk. It's a protein omelet. Egg whites, no yolk.
68:43Turkey, mystery turkey. We don't even know. He doesn't really know what it is.
68:47He's like, it wasn't the thick kind, but it's kind of the Thanksgiving kind.
68:51It wasn't ground. It wasn't cold cut. Like what was it?
68:54Nobody knows. And what else was in there? Mushrooms.
68:57You always have much. Everything you order has mushrooms.
69:00It's insane how much things he orders the mushrooms on.
69:03What else was on there? He's the anti Dave.
69:05It's crazy, man. He eats so healthy and I need to eat healthier.
69:09I know that. I see it in the chat.
69:12I got to do better. I'm not eating healthy these days.
69:15I put on 22 pounds this year. It's disgusting.
69:18I don't want to eat food. I don't need advice from you.
69:2122 pounds. That's terrible. But I had lost. It's because I had lost so much.
69:26I went from 184. No, I went from 190 to 168 last summer back to 184.
69:30Just can't keep it off. Can't do it. All right.
69:33We're going to, we're going to wrap up here.
69:361140 PM. And we're going to play a game called.
69:39This is a great one right here. Kids sleeping.
69:42We're going to go find Mr. Bow and arrow.
69:44Let me go research eggs real quick. I'll be back.
69:47Do your research. Egg yolks are good for you.
69:50Um, all right. Uh, for those of you watching, please join me tomorrow at noon Eastern until 1230 to answer some questions.
69:56And, uh, other than that, have an awesome weekend.
69:59Everybody draft show in the morning. We do have a show in the morning, but they all know that, but, you know, extra.
70:06Yeah. Uh, if you're done, if you're done drafting, let's get ready for week one.
70:10We're still drafting. Let's kick some butt this weekend and talk to you soon on fantasy football today.
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