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1:08This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play!
1:12Can you believe this? I had no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
1:17Off to the races and he stays on his feet.
1:20He's just gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
1:25Absolutely incredible week three. By my count, and I'm probably screwing this up because I'm this bad at stuff like this.
1:32I've got 11 of the 13 games today were one score games going into Sunday night football.
1:38Just amazing. But of course, a lot of injuries as well.
1:41Tough stuff for Devon H. and Justin Jefferson, Baker Mayfield, etc.
1:45Welcome to the show. Welcome to your Sunday night recap on September 27th.
1:49Recapping week three with an unbelievable finish in Rio.
1:52Oh my gosh. Adam Aizer, Heath Cummings, and Dave Richard.
1:55Three guys wearing long black sleeve shirts and glasses today.
1:58Looking good, guys. You look good. I got a lot of compliments on the early show and decided I was just gonna stick with it.
2:06Look, people are fired up in the chat. How about that Brock Bowers, baby?
2:11Beautiful. And Jalen Wright is the move. Well, based on last year, yes, Jalen Wright would be.
2:16Heath is dismayed that Mike told him to like Drake May.
2:20Oh, we haven't heard from Mike. We haven't heard from Mike.
2:23We did hear from Mike once, I think in the preseason, and I didn't take the bait, if you remember.
2:30Yeah, it was about A.J. Brown. Anyway, let's get into it.
2:33Biggest winner, biggest loser. Dave, you are a happy, jolly guy.
2:37Let's go with the biggest winner from you. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Dave Richard, and I am not an advocate for anybody.
2:45But today we saw the return of who should be the future reigning, defending, undisputed, tight end one or two in fantasy football.
2:52And that would be the beast, Brock Bowers. And I mean, honestly, the real winners are anybody who picked in early round one and did not take Puka.
3:01But outside of that, Brock Bowers came back, looked awesome, three targets, three catches on the very first drive for the Raiders.
3:08And he was a very instrumental part in their win over New Orleans.
3:13Just an absolute dominant showing from a dude who we've been waiting to see.
3:17We saw flashes of this last year, and a lot of this is a rookie.
3:22But now he's back. There's no questions asked. He's a stud again, and it looks great and feels great.
3:28And is this Raiders team for real? Undefeated through three weeks?
3:32Kind of like what I'm seeing from them. And Bowers makes them better.
3:36Yeah, he does. It's pretty cool. Brock Bowers with 10 catches, 116 yards, and a touchdown.
3:41Just barely outscoring George Kittle, who is also going to be in the mix for that tight end.
3:47Probably not one, but he could be up there.
3:50He could be up there. So Kittle looks like a good draft pick, especially if Mike Evans has to miss time with this rib injury.
3:58Heath, who's the biggest loser of week three so far?
4:01Well, I don't have a cool spiel like Dave did, but that was really cool.
4:06David Puntgummery. The easiest matchup we thought against the Indianapolis Colts, who defense had looked like garbage.
4:11The biggest week one fooled you, maybe, of the 2026 fantasy football season with him scoring three touchdowns.
4:17What in the world? This offense looked dreadful. Montgomery for the second straight week, and really, in terms of rushing efficiency, the
4:24third straight week, looked absolutely miserable as a rusher.
4:27Flex at best, and not a good one. But he also gave way to Woody Marks at the goal line twice.
4:34And Woody scored. Woody scored a one-yard touchdown. And not to say that's going to keep happening over and over again, but
4:41yeah, David Montgomery, you might have missed a sell-high window.
4:44But I will say that they have even said, like, we know our offense isn't as good without Nico Collins.
4:51If they can get Nico Collins back, it might make things better for the offense in general.
4:56Would it have been better if Montgomery had scored a touchdown from the goal line?
5:01Yeah. It's still a pretty bad game. Woody Marks had it.
5:05They were inside the last two minutes of the game when it happened, but Woody Marks, short yardage touchdown.
5:11First time, I think, ever? Did he have any last year?
5:14They didn't really trust him down there last year.
5:17So I thought the real surprising thing was, and I don't know if you guys saw this, but they used Woody Marks at the goal line.
5:26And David Montgomery. Oh, you said that? I'm sorry.
5:29I'm answering a text. I'm trying to get the running back notes up.
5:33It wasn't just then. It was earlier in the game, too.
5:36Twice they had Woody Marks in at the goal line.
5:40I'm sorry. Again, that doesn't mean Woody Marks is their goal line back, but you would like to see it be sort of exclusively Montgomery.
5:48I'll give you an example. I don't know if you guys caught this.
5:52Kalon Black was in at, like, the five or the six-yard line.
5:56And he carried to the one, and they took him out, and he was so pissed.
6:01And then they brought in McCaffrey, and McCaffrey jumped into the end zone after.
6:05Did you mention that Jonathan Taylor only scored two more fantasy points than David Montgomery?
6:10Yeah. He was facing the Texans' defense. They're good.
6:13That's true. They were pretty good. Yeah. Jamie has joined the show.
6:17Hello, Jamie. No, Jamie, you are not wardrobe-appropriate today.
6:20Go to wardrobe. Get your black shirt and your glasses.
6:23Nope. What's up, Jamie? Hello. All right. So, another, you know, you were talking about a guy that maybe fooled us the most in week one in Montgomery.
6:32I've got to throw Isaiah Likely in there, the way the Giants look right now.
6:37Likely with the just, oh, God, it doesn't look nearly as good as it did.
6:42But we'll see if better weather brings better things for that stupid team.
6:46We've got a Beyond the Box score episode tomorrow.
6:49We'll break down the snap counts and the advanced metrics and those types of things and all the things that we didn't
6:56get a chance to see on Sunday. As all the action was happening, we'll get a deeper, a longer look at on Monday.
7:04And, of course, Beyond the Box score has their own feed, their own YouTube channel.
7:08It's a great, great listen, a great view for those of you who want a longer look at things.
7:15Let's do a quick round of buy or sell.
7:17Jamie, I'll give this one to you first from Dynasty Polick.
7:21Buy or sell. Drake May and Justin Herbert are drops.
7:24Drake May with 3.8 fantasy points today. Justin Herbert with 14.7.
7:28Justin Herbert and Drake May are drops, buy or sell?
7:31Buy. Buy or buy like? Buy, buy, buy. Gotta go buy?
7:35Gotta go buy. I mean, the next three games for Herbert are at Seattle, home against Denver, at the Chiefs, and then
7:42a buy, and then the Rams, and then the Texans.
7:45So, that's easy, but Jamie, you had New England as one of your losers.
7:49You just had put the Patriots in there, and what are you thinking right now about, you know, Drake May has scored
7:57less than 24 fantasy points combined in his three starts.
8:00What do you think about this offense? I mean, it goes back to last season when he's faced tough competition, so I
8:07think we talked about this earlier this week, that if you want to buy back into Drake May or hold on to Drake May until A.J.
8:15Brown returns and the schedule gets easier in the second half of the season, I can certainly understand doing so.
8:22But at this point, it's just one of those situations where you've got to get production from that position.
8:28There are other quarterbacks that are producing. There are guys that are coming out of nowhere that are producing.
8:34I mean, Kirk Cousins has been better. Dino Smith was better.
8:38Dino Smith has been better, was better today, obviously.
8:40Jacoby Brissett's better. Like, you know, the list is going to go on and on.
8:45And just finding better production from that position is easy to do.
8:49All right. Buy or sell from Henrik, Dave. JSN will score even more points than he did last season.
8:55Do you know what he's averaging? I know you know, because I told you.
9:00Jamie and Heath, do you know how many fantasy points in PPR JSN's averaging so far?
9:05A billion? 35. That's lower than that. Right? Almost 35 per game.
9:0934.7. I don't know if anybody's ever averaged. No.
9:1234.7 fantasy points per game. I can't imagine. Like, maybe there was a Jerry Rice season.
9:17But the most... Well, I mean, certainly not a non-quarterback.
9:20Oh, yeah. I don't even know if there was a quarterback.
9:24Yeah, you're right. It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy what's going on.
9:27It's a byproduct of Seattle not being able to run the ball effectively.
9:32And he's just freaking awesome at this point. So, could he be better than last year?
9:37Do you remember how many fantasy points per game he averaged last year?
9:41It was like 21-ish. I don't remember. It was in that neighborhood.
9:45Yes. Yeah. Yes, he could be better than that.
9:48He can be better than that. He could be.
9:51I'm not saying he will be. Well, I don't see this slowing down.
9:55Well, I do. I mean, he's not going to average 33.
9:58No, no, no. When I'm saying 33, yes, I don't think it's going to be in that neighborhood.
10:04But north of what he did last year. I'll give you the reminder.
10:08Okay. He already has six of their 10 end zone targets.
10:1221.2 last year. Yeah. Every time they get near the end zone, he's the guy they're looking for.
10:18Anyway, I'm going to start JSN next week. Go ahead, Jamie.
10:21It's just kind of amazing how him, Jamal Chase, Puka Nakula when he's healthy, Justin Jefferson, like how these guys get open and are always open.
10:30And like it's mind-boggling how good they are. But isn't it also amazing how even when they're not open, they don't need much.
10:37Like they make contested catches. I think that's something that really separates the men from the boys, right?
10:43Like his second touchdown, I think he was kind of blanketed if I recall.
10:47They just have incredible hands, these guys. Yeah. JSN's a winner.
10:51All right. Last one. Buy or sell Chase Brown.
10:54Chase Brown. He's going to be a first round pick.
10:57He's going to be a first round pick. He's so great.
11:01Chase Brown. Not yet. Not yet. No. Not yet.
11:04I would be trying to buy him. I just don't think you're going to be successful at it.
11:09I think you could. Maybe. His schedule's great. Jacksonville, Miami.
11:13Buy. Baltimore. Tennessee. Yeah. He's a good schedule up ahead.
11:16All right. Definitely not freaking out. Atlanta after Tennessee.
11:19Well, that's some stuff before we get to the bad stuff.
11:22And here it comes. The news and notes. So we had Bryce Young limping off.
11:27He was able to come back. But we had Baker Mayfield dislocating his finger.
11:32So Jalen Daniels is the backup quarterback for the Bucs who threw the crap out of the ball at the end of the game there.
11:40But he's really fast, too. Really, really fast. Yeah.
11:43It's an interesting player. I don't know how long he dislocated finger.
11:47I don't know what the time frame is. I assume for Baker, he's just going to like tape three of them together
11:54and be back out there and then probably have something else, unfortunately, go wrong.
11:58He just he's takes so much. And I don't it's not all his lines full.
12:03It's not all his full. It's just the confluence of everything that's going on there.
12:08He just takes a beating every week. Yeah. All right.
12:11So the line is bad. The line shouldn't be bad.
12:14I mean, that's yeah, but it is. It is.
12:17At running back, we have Devon Achan leaving in the first quarter with what might be a serious knee injury.
12:24Just a total bummer. And Jalen Wright was out today.
12:27Ali Gordon was the last man standing and he got a lot of touches against the Chiefs.
12:32But he had 17 carries for 41 yards and a touchdown.
12:36He had three catches for 14 yards. But last year, whenever there were two games where Achan either didn't play or left
12:43early and Jalen Wright was the better option. What do you think, Jamie?
12:47Who's the guy to get from Miami? I mean, right now it's Gordon.
12:51You know, I don't know the extent of Jalen Wright's injury, so I don't want to say anything inappropriate.
12:58But if he's going to miss any time, that's going to either A, give Gordon the opportunity to be the guy and to prove himself.
13:06Or it could be extended absence for Jalen Wright as well.
13:09So we'll have to see the extent of Brees Hall's injury because that's the other guy we're going to be looking at
13:16in terms of backups to spend your fab on this week.
13:20But Braylon Allen and Ali Gordon slash Jalen Wright are going to be the two places you go.
13:26So hopefully we get an update on Devon Achan.
13:29Like you said, it does not sound good from what Jeff Halfley was saying.
13:33I would anticipate at this point multiple weeks, if not the season.
13:37And there's another guy, Brees Hall left in the fourth quarter, and that could be a multi-week absence there.
13:43We don't know. But Travis Achan, Kamara is 66% rostered, so you can't just go out and get him necessarily.
13:50But Kendra Miller is available. Dave, if you could pick one running back for the Saints as of right now, of course,
13:57we can change our mind on Tuesday. But who would it be?
14:01It would be Kendra Miller, but I wouldn't feel very good about it.
14:05There would be a running back split, and there's already – it could be a gross three-way split, and that's exactly what
14:12it was after Etienne got hurt in the second half.
14:15It was like half Alvin Kamara, 30% of the snaps for Kendra Miller, and then C.J.
14:20Donaldson continues to work on passing downs as their best pass protector.
14:24So I don't really want any of these guys.
14:27I would rather have a Jets backup. Maybe I would have a Dolphins backup ahead of Kendra Miller.
14:33But Miller is the one who I think would get a lot of that short yardage work.
14:38If you get him, you're hoping for like six fantasy points, seven fantasy points, plus the chance at a touchdown each week.
14:46It's a shame because Travis Achan was dominating the touches finally.
14:49Yeah, he was. One other thing that – Some good runs.
14:53I don't think there's an injury here, but based on what the broadcaster said at the end, Bucky Irving is another guy to keep an eye on.
15:01He may have left super late in that game with an injury.
15:05Just another one. Don't panic, but another one that just antenna's up.
15:09Justin Jefferson has an ankle injury. Mike Evans has injured ribs.
15:13Jalen Coker, quad injury. Jack Besch, broken forearm. And thankfully, Jalen McMillan's hurt.
15:17Garrett Wilson cleared. It did not have a concussion.
15:20So that is good news as he faces Chicago next week.
15:23But Jefferson, Evans, Coker, those are three big ones we're keeping an eye on to see any time frames there.
15:30No tight end injuries that I saw. Mark Andrews left with a hand injury, but he returned.
15:35There are some offensive – like Baltimore lost two centers today, I believe.
15:39Correct me if I'm wrong. Dallas lost almost their entire secondary.
15:43Yeah. Oh, it's crazy. The Giants lost their best defensive player, Brian Burns.
15:47He might – that might – who knows? That could be a really long one.
15:52Oh, stop. Their best defensive player is James. They suck.
15:55And like all the games that I could have watched today, I was stuck with that one.
16:01What's the record though? They're two and one. Right?
16:04Yeah. Just cost themselves a better draft pick. Do you want them to make a move for another quarterback?
16:10Yeah, kind of. Yeah. Would Minshew or Fields? Those are your options.
16:14Mack Jones. You're not getting Mack Jones. No chance.
16:17All right. Let's take a break and we'll come back.
16:20Early look at the waiver wire and we'll get into more winners and losers.
16:24Jalen Warren is a big winner. Is that going to stay?
16:28Is he going to keep the grip on that starting job when Rico Dowdle's back?
16:33We'll talk about it when we come back on Fantasy Football today.
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17:34Welcome back, Jamie. Let's take a look at the early waiver wire here as you start writing your column.
17:40So obviously you got the backup running backs. Who's the best one available as of right now?
17:45Again, not knowing the injuries. Assuming that just every one of the injured running backs are going to miss week four.
17:52Braylon Allen would be one. I'd probably go Ollie Gordon two.
17:56And then I guess Kendrick Miller would be three.
17:58Okay. And any wide receivers you want to add or quarterbacks?
18:02I haven't gone through it fully yet. I know we're going to do Fantasy Football Tech Express tomorrow.
18:08There's a handful of quarterbacks. Jacoby Brissett has the Giants next week.
18:12You're going to look at him. You're going to look at Marcus Mariota coming off a three-touchdown game.
18:17Sam Donald coming off a multiple-touchdown game. Those are the guys I think you're going to pivot to.
18:23Receiver-wise, I'm trying to think of anybody that stands out that I'm missing.
18:27It's not easy here. I think Watkins for San Francisco is worth a look just because if Evans misses time and the
18:35Marcus Robbins is out, you know, that's one to keep an eye on there.
18:39Jordan Watkins. Yeah. Okay. There's always receivers. Chris Bell looked decent today.
18:43Yeah. Caleb Douglas out. And Malik Washington, Keith and I were joking, will he score a touchdown today?
18:49He had one called back on like a procedure.
18:52I was so mad when that happened. All right.
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19:09And he got all eight of his targets after Jalen Coker left the game.
19:13Or no, he got all eight of them without Coker on the field.
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19:46Dave starts with the winners with Jalen Warren, 17 carries and three catches, 176 total yards, I believe, against the Cincinnati Bengals without Rico Dowdle.
19:54Is this a sign of things to come? You also have Terry McLaurin who had a big game against Seattle, surprisingly.
20:01I think Jalen Warren has completely taken the running back job in Pittsburgh.
20:05And even when Rico Dowdle comes back, how in the world can he go and compete and make it 50-50?
20:11At bare minimum, maybe it's something like Jalen Warren for two drives and then Rico Dowdle for a third drive and then back to Jalen Warren.
20:20He had an 87-yard run called back by a holding penalty on D.K.
20:24Metcalf in the fourth quarter of this game. And then after that, he ripped off a 26-yard run.
20:30He's really just having... He had a great game today against Cincinnati.
20:33And this was supposed to be a Bengals defense that we were fearing.
20:38We were scared of them. Last week, they shut down David Montgomery.
20:42And now here they are getting gashed aplenty by Pittsburgh.
20:45And it should be noted that Steelers had a different look to their offensive line today.
20:50Their rookie first-rounder was in the front five. That made a difference.
20:54I really think that Jalen Warren has literally run away with the job.
20:58And he was getting targets and catches as well.
21:01He looked really, really good. And the Bengals defense looked really, really bad.
21:05And for the second week in a row, a lot of targets for Terry McLaurin.
21:10You'd love to see it. He looked great last week.
21:13Really came through this week. We were nervous about the matchup.
21:17But with Marcus Mariota as his quarterback, all things are possible.
21:20And we saw it with the game. Nine targets, six catches, 77 yards, a touchdown, almost 20 fantasy points.
21:26That's better than his average of what he had last year with Marcus Mariota.
21:31And he absolutely put Diggs and Antonio Williams in his shadow.
21:35He's back to being the number one target getter for the Washington Commanders, who I can't believe they won.
21:41It was just a great game for the Commanders on both sides of the ball.
21:46Darnold kind of gave that game away a little bit too.
21:49But the bottom line is Terry McLaurin. We thought that he would have a bad game and that the buy low window would be open.
21:57Nope. Buy window is gone. It's closed. It's nailed shut.
22:00And he's back to being a must-start wide receiver too.
22:04I'm not going to put him in the top 12.
22:07We're not going to go crazy. Okay, okay. Yeah.
22:10Top three four for sure. He actually was only started in 26% of leagues, Terry McLaurin.
22:15That's a bummer. But he's run a hundred. I don't know.
22:18I think this is updated. 184 routes with Marcus Mariota in his career.
22:23He has a 30.4% target per route run rate.
22:26And that is exceptional. His career target per route run rate is 21.5%.
22:30So Mariota targets McLaurin. And it's small sample size.
22:33It's not a ton of routes. But it's not nothing.
22:36He targets McLaurin like McLaurin has basically never been targeted before.
22:39Heath, your winners. Oh, yeah. Finally. Jeremiah Love. People who have Jeremiah Love are just, they must be elated right now.
22:46They heard you. They heard you. What did I say?
22:49You don't remember? Wasn't it this show last week where you lost your mind because of the young, exciting running backs that weren't getting the football?
22:58And one coaching staff heard you. The other coaching staff didn't.
23:01They both lost. But, no, Jeremiah Love got almost all of the touches.
23:06Scored 21 fantasy points. Looked fantastic. Five catches. Gets the Giants next week.
23:10Is it too soon to rank Jeremiah Love as a top 12 running back?
23:14Hell no. And Rashi Rice is back. Completely dominated targets for the Kansas City Chiefs as he used to do once upon a time.
23:22Now it was the Dolphins. So I'm not going to say that he's back to being a top five wide receiver.
23:29Like he was over multiple stretches the last three years.
23:32But I think he has looked better every single week of the season running.
23:37And Patrick Mahomes trusts him more than he trusts anybody besides Travis Kelsey.
23:41And I must start wide receiver. Good stuff. He had nine targets for Shoe Rice.
23:46No other player had more than three. Jamie, your winners today are Michael Wilson, who, just like Terry McLaurin, was only started in 26% of leagues.
23:5411 catches, 89 yards, and a touchdown on 17 targets at the Niners for Michael Wilson.
23:59Gets the Giants next week, then the Lions. And Josh Downs started in 44% of leagues, but I have a feeling he's
24:06not going to be starting in 44% of leagues going forward.
24:10Downs with two good games in a row with more than 70 yards.
24:14You got Michael Wilson and Josh Downs. Yeah, so I'll go back to Friday where I was a little concerned about just the Cardinals offense.
24:22And then we got the news for the Mailbag Show, which, you know, if you listen to both, changed my opinion with
24:29the Nick Bosa news, just knowing that the 49ers defense is not going to be as good.
24:35And it's funny because Michael Wilson's now last two games against the Cardinals, I guess, excuse me, against 49ers, 26 catches in those two games.
24:43So it's something just, you know, he clearly does well against this defense and hopefully continues.
24:48But you see what he's capable of as you got to consider him without question the best receiver for the Cardinals moving forward.
24:55Made a lot of great catches in this game.
24:58And Jacoby Brissett looks much better in this game than he did the last two.
25:03For Josh Downs, no Alec Pierce. He was placed on IR.
25:07I know it was a good game for almost all the three main pass catchers.
25:12But that's kind of what we were expecting for the Colts this season was concentrated targets.
25:17Just Keenan Allen takes the Alec Pierce's chances and does well with them.
25:21But Downs now, like you said, it's 20 targets in his last two games.
25:26And over 12 PPR points in both of them.
25:28So should be a starter for sure in PPR and a borderline starter and not in half.
25:34This is the second game in a row where Downs should have had better numbers than he actually had.
25:40And I'm putting it on Daniel Jones just not being in the same world that he was in last year.
25:47And it's still unbelievable how open both Downs and, for what it's worth, Keenan Allen have been getting.
25:52And the scheme is good. And these receivers are not bad.
25:56And Downs especially is just like burning corners all the time.
25:59But Daniel Jones is holding them back. And if Daniel Jones can kind of course correct himself and be a little bit
26:07more accurate and a little bit more on time, then we're talking about Josh Downs really hitting a ceiling that he would
26:14break through the ceiling that we had for him.
26:17He's been looking great. And Keenan Allen, another receiver to add off.
26:20I was just about to say that. Yeah, they got Washington next week.
26:25Man, this Washington pass defense is phenomenal for fantasy.
26:28All right. Well, that would be our winners. Jalen Warren and Terry McLaurin for Dave.
26:32And anyone else that rhymes with that? Jeremiah. You could throw Tyler Warren in there.
26:37He had a good game. Warren. McLaurin. Nine catches.
26:40Jeremiah Love, Rasheed Rice for Heath. Michael Wilson, Josh Downs for Jamie.
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27:14Join.whoop.com slash FFT. On to our losers. Brian Thomas Jr.
27:17for Jamie. One target, one catch. Not good against New England.
27:21And the Patriots. You just – that one game, bunch of losers for you.
27:25It was just easy, yeah. It's just okay. They suck.
27:29The Jaguars played great. And it's just – I guess didn't take into account the Jacoby Myers revenge game against the Patriots.
27:36Yeah. So it was Myers' turn. Parker Washington had a great touchdown catch.
27:40I think just – you know, you're looking at Brian Thomas.
27:43We were excited. The two previous games, at least, the targets were there.
27:48The opportunities were there for him. And then it just goes away quickly.
27:52Now, we noted this. You know, Adam, you brought this up prior to the season that the schedule was tough.
27:58And it's another tough cornerback matchup for him in this game.
28:02He's going to be somebody that you're going to have to make some tough calls.
28:07Certainly in 10-team leagues, you might consider dropping him.
28:10In 12-team leagues, he might be droppable as well.
28:13And then for the Patriots, as you alluded to previously, Drake May is somebody you can drop.
28:18You can't start the running backs at this point because we just don't know who's going to be better than the next.
28:25Stevenson was better than Henderson today. But, you know, it's just frustrating when they're both not doing very much because of the
28:32lack of a threat of a passing game at this point.
28:36And, yeah, Matt Collins is going to be somebody we discuss as a waiver wire option.
28:41Nobody's starting Matt Collins anytime soon. You can't start Hunter Henry anytime soon.
28:45This Patriots offense just sucks. Yeah, it's a bummer.
28:48Heath, we got David Montgomery as a loser, which we talked about, and also Dalton Schultz.
28:53And there was a, you know, I'll just bring this comment up from the chat.
28:58It's from Keith. He doesn't like people whose names rhyme with Keith.
29:02He says, Heath, wake up. When Nico Collins is back, Montgomery will be fine.
29:07Do you agree with that? He might be able to score a touchdown when Nico Collins is back because this team might score touchdowns.
29:14But even in the game that Nico Collins played in, he averaged exactly three yards per carry, the same that he did in this game.
29:22And I think he was worse than that in week two.
29:26He's been probably the least efficient volume rusher in the NFL this season.
29:30Yeah. What about his schedule? Yeah, it's good. I mean, like that might be the saving grace if you're honestly.
29:37He played the Colts today. I get it. I get it.
29:40But yeah, I never thought the Colts were as bad of a defense as they looked in the first two weeks for whatever it's worth.
29:48And they did step up. The offensive line is a problem, too.
29:52I'm not trying to sugarcoat this or change it up and say that Montgomery is actually super.
29:58But if you're like desperate for running back help, I bet you'll be able to acquire Montgomery on the cheap.
30:04And he might be able to get you. And you'll still be desperate for running back.
30:09I think he can be better than six fantasy points.
30:12You know, I think you could look at a guy that that is getting like the majority of the carries for any offense.
30:20They were playing without Nico. They're also playing without their starting right guard.
30:24And you could say better times are ahead if you felt like he was going to be the goal line back.
30:31If he's going to split the goal line back duties, that's that really is a punch in the gut.
30:37Yeah. I don't I don't know if I believe it.
30:40I don't know if I believe that Montgomery did something to lose goal line carries to Woody Marks.
30:46Yeah. Well, yeah. What about Dalton Schultz? I'm just a terribly disappointing game.
30:50Foster Moreau had more targets than him. And I think he had like the first two or three tight end targets in the game.
30:58Dalton Schultz just wasn't involved in the game plan early on.
31:02And we had had this weird history. I think maybe you referenced it before last week that Dalton Schultz hadn't normally been
31:09good in games that Nico Collins missed. Yeah. Probably because Nico Collins takes so much of the attention.
31:14But I think it just moves Dalton Schultz right back into the high end tight end two range.
31:20Now, he does get the Cowboys next week. It's both a revenge game and they have no secondary.
31:26So maybe we can start him for one more week.
31:29And Dave's got Jamison Williams, who had four targets for the second straight game.
31:34And Jadarian. Oh, I don't know what happened here.
31:37I hope it was he was hurt or something, Dave.
31:40But what do you make of J-Mo and Jadarian Price?
31:43Jadarian Price had six touches in this game. They were splitting three ways and Emmanuel Wilson was there again in short yardage situations.
31:51They are not ready. The Seahawks are not ready to hand over this backfield to their rookie first round pick.
31:57And I don't know. Maybe it is the injury, but 27% of the snaps is really gross.
32:03We didn't draft him for this to be the result.
32:06Emmanuel Wilson led the way with 38% and Helani 36%.
32:09Helani actually had more snaps inside the five than Emmanuel Wilson did.
32:13I'm a little squeamish about starting Jadarian Price, but especially since this week, I mean, how good was he?
32:19How can we look at it and say, how can we sugarcoat this?
32:23And say that six carries for five carries, excuse me, for 15 yards against Washington.
32:28I mean, maybe Washington's run defense is good. I don't know.
32:32But Jadarian Price was a loser. And I think fantasy managers are going to have to think twice about starting and moving
32:39forward, even as like a number three receiver or non PPR flex.
32:43But I'm just as discouraged over Jamison Williams. The Lions have scored 31, 31, and 31 points in each of their first three games.
32:50And we don't even have 50 yards from Jamison Williams in a game yet this year.
32:56We don't have a touchdown from Jamison Williams in a game this year.
33:00I love the talent, but we're seeing things play out where Jamison Williams is not being used the way that he was
33:07in the second half of last season. And part of it might just be because Sam Laporta, who didn't have a ton
33:14of targets to say anyway, should have had a touchdown.
33:17He had an almost touchdown. But Laporta on the field seems to be the guy that kind of saps the upside from J-Mo.
33:25And I think if you've got other wide receivers that you're looking at on your bench and they're getting you decent fantasy
33:32production, you're going to have to roll the dice at some point and bench Jamison Williams.
33:37Well, this morning I said I was going to put good luck when you do.
33:42I was going to put my. But if you had done it at any point in the first three games of the season, you'd be very happy.
33:50Well, go ahead and tell the story. Yeah. Yeah.
33:53This morning I said I was going to put my entire fantasy reputation on Jamison Williams and I was going to guarantee
34:01that he was going to score more than 12 PPR fantasy points.
34:04Do you remember what I guaranteed? That it would not be between like 10 and 12.
34:10What was it? I think I guaranteed he would not score between 10 and 18 points.
34:15He scored like 21 fantasy points this whole year.
34:18Yeah. But he could score 21 points in the next game.
34:21That is J-Mo. That is J-Mo in a nutshell.
34:24And they have Carolina on the road and then Arizona.
34:27And then Arizona. Great. So they're going to score more games with 31 points.
34:32Yeah. All right. You know, I'd have to believe that Jadarian Price was not fully healthy if he got 27% of the snaps.
34:39I'll take one more look at the snaps and see if he stopped playing in the fourth quarter.
34:45No, I just don't think they were using it.
34:48Like, he had 10 carries and 13 carries at two games before that.
34:52He gets five in this game. And I don't know.
34:55Emmanuel Wilson had nine carries for 14 yards. So it's not like he played into the fourth quarter.
35:01His last snap was fourth quarter, 255. I'm not saying he was removed from the game.
35:06I'm saying he wasn't fully healthy. And they did.
35:09I'm thinking they didn't use him because of his status coming into the game.
35:14That's what I'm saying. It's also three games in a row.
35:17The Washington run defense has been really good. Yeah.
35:20Yeah. It is. Sunny. Sunny Stiles has been great.
35:23We had a lot of almost touchdowns. Jamie's winner, Michael Wilson, had an almost touchdown.
35:28Mack Hollins, Trey McBride, Chris Olave, Ted Earl McMillan was held in the end zone.
35:33Trevor Lawrence. Do we have the clip of Trevor Lawrence?
35:36Be like, yeah, I wanted to give a... Oh, that was so funny.
35:40Yeah, I don't know if we have that. But Trevor Lawrence...
35:44So, long story short, Lawrence has a run. It looks like he's going to score.
35:49He took a knee at the one with like eight minutes left in the game.
35:54Like, this is how bad it got for the Patriots, that Trevor Lawrence is like playing games with them.
36:00Just so Basial Tootin could score a touchdown. Yeah, right.
36:03And then Basial Tootin... And he said it was for his fantasy managers.
36:07That was hilarious. There were more. Chris Godwin had an 84-yard touchdown.
36:11What's that? Chris Godwin had an 84-yard touchdown. Bill had a 58-yard touchdown callback, didn't he?
36:16Yes, he did. I don't know if I missed that.
36:19Purdy had a 43-yard touchdown run callback. And then threw it to the guy that got it called back for a touchdown later in the drive.
36:28Yeah. Here's the Lawrence clip. The play with eight minutes left when you escaped and went down at the one.
36:34You didn't want to score a touchdown? Well, I mean, hindsight probably just to score because we scored the very next play.
36:41Trying to run the clock out a little bit.
36:44You know, I'm trying to help support the Basial Tootin fantasy people out there.
36:49So, got Basial another touchdown. Play with eight minutes left.
36:52Awesome. Thank you. Does he not realize that people drafted him in fantasy football?
36:57No, but I don't think what people realize is that he drafted Basial Tootin in his fantasy league.
37:02There you go. And the second straight week where Basial Tootin has a one-yard touchdown run.
37:08And Chris Rodriguez also had a short-yarded touchdown run.
37:10But again, it's good to see that Tootin is at least involved there.
37:15All right, we're going to take a break. We'll get to the game starting with Detroit and the Jets.
37:21A really good game. 31-24 Detroit. We'll talk about it when we come back.
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38:04Visit yearup.org to learn more. The Jets, you know, honestly, I hope Brees Hall doesn't miss too much time.
38:10The Jets are not bad. They are 1-2, but a couple of tough losses here.
38:15Detroit 31, Jets 24. We already discussed the Brees Hall situation.
38:19Garrett Wilson with a big game, and he's healthy.
38:22Geno Smith, I mean, is this just because he played Detroit?
38:25Jamie, he gets Chicago next week. 19% roster. Are we buying into Geno Smith?
38:30This was his first good fantasy game, but he's playing pretty well this year.
38:34Run game might be suspect with Brees Hall's injury.
38:37Matchup, like you said, could be a situation, depending on who the quarterback is for the Bears, where they're chasing points.
38:44Yeah, I think Geno Smith's in that low-end starting conversation for sure, and you're starting Justin Herbert or Drake May at this point.
38:51This is a quarterback you could pivot to because there's probably more upside right now.
38:56Okay, let's talk about the Lions. I'm going to say something that's crazy.
39:00Are you going to say that Jameson Williams is going to score 12 fantasy points?
39:05You're going to say you hate Jameer Gibbs. He's too good.
39:09Well, he is too good. It's crazy. You talked about how they've scored 31 points every game.
39:14Does it bother you that it seems to take them?
39:17It seems to take them so... Are they not as good on offense as we thought?
39:23It feels like they struggle for a half. Are they...
39:26And they, like, have to be... You just watch the Giants and Titans.
39:30This is not the way to pivot. Yeah, but, I mean, those are the two worst teams in football.
39:36Are you saying they should be scoring more? As the golf manager in many leagues, I feel like I wish it were a little easier for them.
39:45It seems like it takes them a while to get going here.
39:49Does anybody have any concerns about the Lions offense or am I just crazy?
39:53You're crazy. Okay, good. I'm crazy. You're not crazy because it feels like golf should have a couple of, or at least one, maybe 30-point game in here.
40:02Yeah, he's got one. He got it in week two?
40:06Oh, yeah, against the Bills. Yeah, yeah. Almost 38 points.
40:09Yeah, I guess. KSN's, like, blushing. All right, I'm crazy.
40:12He's currently QB5 at 27.2 fantasy points per game.
40:15Okay, okay. Laporta, he's around 50 yards every game.
40:18Hopefully he scores. He almost scored today. Yeah, he should have had one today.
40:22Let's talk about the Bills and Chargers. Buffalo 24, Los Angeles 26.
40:26The Bills committed 10 penalties and lost three fumbles, and they beat...
40:30You want to talk about Sadiq? Throw up the Jets graphic again.
40:34Let's talk about Kenyon Sadiq. Sorry, that's a good call.
40:37We're too busy talking about how bad the Lions offense is.
40:41We're Braylon Allen. It's a good time on the Jets.
40:44Well, no, Braylon Allen is for Tuesday's show. You know, whatever.
40:48We'll talk... Dude, I have a Kenyon Sadiq question.
40:50Is he so good that the genie's out of the bottle now?
40:54Or if Adonai Mitchell's back next week, is he still kind of buried?
40:59I think it's a combination of Mitchell being out, the Lions being so bad against...
41:03I mean, you think about it coming into this week.
41:07Dalton Kincaid just killed them, and then week one, it was both Noah Fant and Juwan Johnson beating them up.
41:13So without their safeties, they're just terrible at this position.
41:16They're the new Bengals. So any tight end that's facing them, you're going to want to play your fantasy options.
41:23But look, Sadiq is a first-round talent. I would imagine they're going to be in games like this more often than not
41:30when they're playing good offenses that they're going to have to keep up and throw the ball more, and that's going to benefit them.
41:38They didn't have to do it in the first two weeks of the season as much.
41:43So yes, I think this is a great low-end starting option that you want to have on your roster It's a little
41:50weird how Adonai Mitchell had 12 targets last week and now this week, G-Dub got on track, but Sadiq had eight targets too.
41:57I'm starting to think that this offense can support two pass catchers, and I kind of like Sadiq better than Mitchell because
42:04of the mismatch opportunities that he provides, and the track record for Frank Reich.
42:09You know I've talked about this a lot during the preseason.
42:13One of the things that has always stood out in his offenses is that a tight end does well and gets a
42:20lot of use, and the reason why I wasn't more bullish on Sadiq, number one, he was hurt, and number two, they
42:27had Mason Taylor, so I wasn't sure which tight end it would be.
42:31It could rotate from week to week. Now I don't think it's rotating.
42:35Now I think King and Sadiq has kind of earned a bigger foothold in this offense moving forward, and that's only going to mean good things for fantasy.
42:44Just another great tight end that we're going to look at starting.
42:48Sorry, one more, Adam. Sadiq or Colson Loveland rest of the season.
42:52I think you've got to... I don't want to be reactionary, but Kenyon Sadiq has more fantasy points in one game than
42:59Colson Loveland has probably in three at this point because we don't know what Loveland's going to do tomorrow, but it ain't
43:06going to be great with Case Keenum at quarterback.
43:09I kind of want to lean towards Sadiq. I'll answer after I see what happens Monday.
43:14I like that. All right, can we go to Buffalo now?
43:18Everybody okay with that? Yes. Yeah, oh yeah. Looking forward to it.
43:22Are you sure you don't want to talk about Isaac Tesla?
43:25Buffalo 24, Los Angeles Chargers 16. We already said Herbert is droppable.
43:29How concerned are we about Hampton and McConkie? Do we consider them just stardom?
43:34Easy, no doubt about it. Heath starters, McConkie and Hampton?
43:37Oh, I thought you were going to continue wrapping up all the ways the Bills tried to give this game away because you weren't done yet.
43:45No, I... Listen, it's a bad matchup next week against Seattle.
43:49It didn't seem to bother the Washington pass game too much this week, but the run game was still completely dreadful.
43:56I think I'm probably going to have Hampton ranked as a low-end RB2 next week, somewhere probably right around 20.
44:02And McConkie's probably about the same at wide receiver, maybe a little lower.
44:06Okay. And on the Bills' side of the ball, Jamie, what should the DJ Moore manager be feeling right now?
44:13Ten targets, six catches, 67 yards. That's a pretty good day for a guy you might not have thought was going to play this week.
44:21Is he healthy? I don't know. I mean, my guess is probably not, but they didn't treat him as if he wasn't healthy.
44:28So you're starting him until you have better options or unless you have better options.
44:33Okay. And 41 of 63 snaps for DJ Moore.
44:36Okay. Are we worried? Is anybody worried like, uh-oh, Dalton Kincaid fooled you?
44:4061% snap share, 67% route share. For who? Kincaid.
44:43Yeah. Moore's was the stupid fumble. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not freaking out about Kincaid yet.
44:49All right. Two catches for 38 yards. Look, not a good day for Josh Allen.
44:53So just kind of a weird day for the Bills' offense, but they found a way to win.
44:59Ready for the next game? They pulled a 2025 game plan out.
45:03Kansas City, 24. Miami, 10. Miami dominated time of possession here, 34 minutes and 21 seconds.
45:08Mahomes, 19.9 fantasy points, 20 of 24. 24. So good gate, good day for him, but not a great day for fantasy.
45:15Ken Walker. Good. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah. We talked about Rasheed Rice.
45:19He's a winner. I don't really, I mean, Dave, what should the Travis Kelsey manager be feeling right now?
45:25He had two catches for 59 yards and a touchdown, but only two targets.
45:30They should be feeling lucky. And I suppose with just this large number of young tight ends that are available on the
45:37waiver wire, if you could sell high on Travis Kelsey, you should do it.
45:42I just don't think you're going to get much for him because every team that wants a tight end that's got Colson
45:49Loveland and doesn't want him anymore or is panicking about Dalton Kincaid, whatever, whoever needs a tight end, they're just going to
45:56go to the waiver wire and pick up Sadiq themselves.
45:59So you're kind of stuck if you've got Kelsey, but I don't hate the idea of using him as a low end starter moving forward.
46:07Okay. He's currently averaging 16.4 fantasy points per game.
46:10Right. So it's not like he's going to totally fall off.
46:14He, he's just, I don't know. What do you think about two targets?
46:18It's, I kind of, I kind of feel like Rashear Rice, they tried to get Rice going a lot more this week than they have in the past.
46:27And if push comes to shove in another competitive game for the chiefs and they're going to have a bunch of them,
46:34that's when I think Kelsey might be okay. Yeah.
46:37Also just, just played Patrick Sertan and sauce Gardner.
46:40Who do you have? How often did those guys, it just, it's just, it's just good, good, good defensive backs on the other side.
46:47You know, you can split it up however you want to.
46:51I mean, you know, take that for what it's worth.
46:54I think this is a really good offense. That's going to start seeing a little bit more man coverage.
47:00Because defenses are going to start to focus on Walker and Mahomes can crush them.
47:05And Kelsey can crush against man too. I know he's not fast, but he can still separate and be on the same page as Mahomes.
47:13Same thing with Rice. He can do that too.
47:16Adam, I'm going to save you some work this week.
47:19when you get to the Dolphins game preview, just say, sit them all.
47:24Yeah, well, that's not necessarily going to be the case.
47:27Oh, they're at Minnesota. Not going to be the case when we start to have bye weeks and we need like someone with a pulse.
47:35But yeah, at Minnesota next week, Dolphins is not going to do well.
47:39Nice to see Malik Willis run for a change.
47:42I can tell you what the number one defense will be for all of us next week.
47:48Oh, yeah. Malik Washington, though, he did have 10 targets.
47:51There were a lot of targets. And PPR points.
47:5436 pass attempts for Malik Willis. Carolina and Cleveland.
47:57Let's go here. Cleveland 21, Carolina 18. Bryce Young struggled.
48:00Jalen Coker got hurt. He was struggling even when Coker was playing.
48:0448 pass attempts for 15.6 fantasy points is no good.
48:07Did the bubble burst on Bryce Young, Heath, or we just, let's be patient.
48:11You know, I thought, because I watched quite a bit of that game, actually, and I thought Cleveland did a very good job of making Bryce Young uncomfortable.
48:21And Bryce Young played, like, the past year's Bryce Young.
48:24So I think it's really going to come down to how well they can protect him on a week-to-week basis.
48:30They did a pretty decent job of it the first two weeks of the season.
48:35They didn't do as good of a job of it.
48:38And I think it depends on Jalen Coker's health because it's a lot easier to play quarterback when you have two good
48:45wide receivers than when you have one because once Coker was out, they just completely took Ted Rowe and McMillan away.
48:52He was not an available option. And Bryce Young had to try to throw it to anybody else.
48:58Here comes the Detroit defense that just faced one good wide receiver and obviously very potentially good tight end.
49:04and we get Ted Rowe and Darren Waller and it's a very similar setup.
49:09So I think it's an easy bounce back game for Bryce Young next week.
49:13Okay. And Darren Waller, as Jamie mentioned, you know, great opportunity.
49:1726% rostered. He had all eight of his targets with, I think it was actually whatever.
49:22It was either with Coker off the field or after the injury and gets the Lions.
49:27And Deshaun Watson, man. Deshaun Watson, two straight games with right around 24 fantasy points and six points per passing touchdown leagues.
49:34He'll get Pittsburgh. That's an interesting matchup. How are we feeling now about Quinchon Judkins?
49:3918 carries for 70 yards, Jamie, plus two catches for nine yards.
49:43I thought when Devin Lloyd was ruled out, there'd be an opportunity for Judkins to have a better game, certainly better game
49:50script because I thought they'd be in this game, first home game for them as well after two straight road games to open the season.
49:58So he definitely looked a lot better. I was a little disappointed in his role in the past game after having five
50:05catches the week before and five targets. So we'll see what this looks like for him moving forward.
50:11Looking at the Pittsburgh defense, they're not going to be an easy matchup.
50:15It is a short week, which we know sometimes favors running backs.
50:19So I think you just kind of put him in the same spot where we've had him ranked consensus-wise, low-end number two running back range.
50:27If you have better options, we'll certainly dissect what the backup running backs that are stepping into starting roles look like by comparison to Judkins.
50:35So Braylon Allen, Ollie Gordon, Kendra Miller, he's unfortunately closer to them than he is to the top of the food chain at the position.
50:43So I don't think you should have anything glaring one way or the other to change your mind on Quen Sean Judkins.
50:50Great game, Harold Fennin. Yeah. Great game, Harold Fennin.
50:53Seven for 51 and two touchdowns on nine targets with Deshaun Watson.
50:57That was another one with Lloyd out that should have been looked at a little closer.
51:02And nine targets for Casey Concepcion, four for Denzel Boston.
51:06Casey Concepcion had one yard per target. Yeah. Yeah, he's kind of droppable right now.
51:10Yeah. Yeah. Fennin or Kelsey rest of season? Kelsey.
51:13Probably Kelsey. Okay. Pittsburgh. This is a great game.
51:16Pittsburgh. Very fun game. Bengals 27. Joe Burrow scores 28.9 fantasy points.
51:20We talked about Chase Brown earlier. I think we are pretty good with Jamar Chase and T Higgins.
51:26Yeah, Aaron Rogers with a good game. Do we make anything of that?
51:30I'm not saying this is a joke. Did T Higgins look better to you this week?
51:35I don't know. I didn't watch it. Yeah, I did.
51:39He did. No, I know Adam was concerned. So I was too concerned.
51:43You know, it was like concerns on exactly the word I would use.
51:47I was intrigued. It was like, what's going on here?
51:50But you know, look, he didn't have that great of a game aside from that weird sitting down 30 something yard touchdown.
51:57But still, I mean, he's T Higgins. You don't bench to answer your question, Adam.
52:02I think like I'm not going to be ranking Aaron Rogers as a starting quarterback anytime soon.
52:08But the way that Mike McCarthy is running this offense is very friendly for quarterback scoring fantasy points.
52:13If everybody can do their job. And I thought the offensive line was a little bit better today.
52:19And DK caught the touchdown. He didn't do much else.
52:23You got so lucky with the DK touchdown. You started in this week.
52:27Like he's getting to throw a lot and he's throwing downfield more.
52:31And so like that, that gives more of a possibility of Aaron Rogers being good.
52:35Am I going to start him at Cleveland next week?
52:39No. If he's decent against Cleveland and then he gets to face Indianapolis defense the next week and there's teams on a bye, maybe.
52:46Yeah. I don't know if anybody caught it, but did DJ Turner shadow DK Metcalf?
52:51I did. That was on quite a bit. And I think it was Daxel and Turner collided in the end zone on DK Metcalf.
52:59Yeah. Interesting. Oh, we have a, do we have a Josh Allen injury?
53:03Oh my. I see Dr. Jesse Morris talking about it on Twitter an hour ago.
53:08Okay. We're going to keep an eye on that.
53:11I know he had multiple brain farts, but yeah.
53:14And I hope it's hope nothing serious. I mean, the guy plays through everything.
53:18Indianapolis and Houston Colts win it 19 to 17 wild game here.
53:22Colts had the ball for more than 35 minutes.
53:25Hopefully we don't have to, you know, even think about streaming Xavier Hutchinson, but there's no guarantee that Nico's back and Hutchinson
53:32led the team in every receiving category tied and catches led in targets led in yards, which is not saying much 51 yards on six targets.
53:41He's talked about Dalton Schultz earlier. Is there anything to say about this?
53:45Like, you know what? Let's talk a little bit about Keenan Allen and Tyler Warren.
53:50We talked about Josh Downs, but Dave Keenan Allen nine targets scored a touchdown.
53:54He was pretty decent in week one. He had a terrible week, too, but he's 30% rostered.
54:00And then Tyler Warren, like what a weird year.
54:03I mean, the yards per target must be so bad right now.
54:07He said 1321 and 55 yards, but today he had 10 targets and 55 yards.
54:11What do you think about Allen and Tyler Warren?
54:14It kind of feels like Warren is their most short area targeted pass catcher.
54:19And Keenan Allen is actually starting to get a couple of throws a little bit further down field as is Downs and
54:26Downs can even get some even deeper throws, but a lot of those really aren't happening from Daniel Jones.
54:32I thought that Keenan Allen actually had a turn back the clock kind of game.
54:37I don't know if I can expect him to do this every week, but in full PPR, you can at least think about him as a flex option.
54:46Maybe it's a week like this where he doesn't score a touchdown and it's six for 60 and that's not bad for
54:53a flex in a full or even half PPR.
54:56I would just, I would double down on Josh Downs.
54:59I think he's great. I know he had 11 targets and just five catches, but I don't think a lot of that
55:06is on him and Warren, as long as he's still going to get a bunch of targets, it's going to, it's going
55:13to be good games like this in full PPR, less good in half and non PPR.
55:19One big reason why I think they had the game that they had was because Jonathan Taylor was not good running the
55:26football at all, but especially into the third quarter.
55:29And then when Houston lost Al Shair, their linebacker, Indy just started gashing them with the run.
55:34It wasn't just Taylor, but it was also McGowan that helped Taylor's rushing average go up a little bit.
55:40And then Al Shair came back and Indy did have to throw toward the end of the game.
55:46And I think whenever they have a game like this where Jonathan Taylor can't take over, you're going to see three guys with nine plus targets each week.
55:55Okay. Bigger disappointment right now. Texans are chargers. Wow.
55:58Chargers. The Texans always start Oh and two. I mean, Oh and three surprise.
56:03Yeah, I think you're right. I think it's the chargers.
56:06Well, I certainly our expectations were higher for the chargers.
56:09And at least you can look at Houston and say, all right, we knew their offensive line wasn't great going in, but
56:16they're, they've only played one game with Nico Collins.
56:19I would say the Texans. I, I think the Texans are more of a disappointment because they were, I mean, I think
56:26it was Bleacher Report had, had them as the best roster in the NFL coming into the season.
56:32There was somebody that may be saying that wrong, but the only thing that I think you would maybe go the chargers
56:39is the Texans can still rally in this division and catch out the chargers.
56:44Oh, and three. They're not catching anybody. Las Vegas.
56:46Yeah. Okay. So Las Vegas. Would you just real quick, would you rather have Sam LaPorta or Tyler Warren rest of season?
56:54Warren. Warren. Um, I'd probably still take LaPorta. Jacksonville 35, New England six.
56:58We discussed the New England Patriots. They're tough to trust, tough to start, and you might be dropping some of them.
57:05Uh, for Jacksonville, is Bejal Tootin like a must-start stud?
57:08Um, I mean, listen, this is what must-start studs do against great run defenses.
57:12So he definitely took a step towards being that here.
57:16And I think he was, I had him like RB 20 this week.
57:20I think probably somewhere in that RB 14 to 18 range is where I would put him.
57:25So if that's a, he's a must-start stud RB 2 if those exist.
57:29It's one thing to start Jalen Warren when he's got the whole backfield to himself against Cincinnati.
57:35It's another thing to start Tootin, who does not have the whole backfield to himself against Cincinnati.
57:40with Trevor Lawrence today, Tootin had 51% of the snaps.
57:44He, he, Rodriguez and Abdullah each had two of six snaps inside the 10.
57:48And LaQuinn Allen was doing his thing on third downs.
57:51So I worry a little bit about that, that there are just too many running backs that are going to take some
57:58work off of Tootin and you're going to need him to just like break off a bunch of long runs and or
58:06have his quarterback take a knee at the one in order for him to score a touchdown.
58:11And I'm not ready to say Cincinnati's defense stinks.
58:14I know that, uh, Knight, their linebacker was out early in the game and he came back.
58:19Maybe that's part of the reason why Warren had such a big game, but I think Tootin is probably in that RB2
58:27conversation, but I'd still put him lower. I still think he's closer to 24 than he would be to 18 Washington 30.
58:34I just, I just Tootin, by the way, if you heard it, Washington 33, Seattle 31, edit that out.
58:40Um, so are we sure Terry McLaurin is better than Stefan Diggs rest of season?
58:45No, I am. I'm sure. I'm sure I'm going to rank them both as high end wide receiver threes.
58:51Yep. Okay. And do we feel good? I mean, look, it was such a tough matchup for Bill, but he got 19 carries.
58:58That's two games out of three with more than 16 carries.
59:02So I think it might be a matter of time before they phase him out.
59:07Like I know we had the great run. Yeah.
59:10That's a bold take. Okay. Yeah. I think they can phase him out for who?
59:14I don't know if they're ever going to be, they need to find somebody who can run the ball more effectively than Rashad white.
59:22That's for sure. And white had 4.4 yards per carry, but cross game merit just has too many carries that go nowhere.
59:29And so he's just like this boomer bust running back.
59:33And I, I don't, I don't know if he's going to have 19 carries in a game the rest of the season.
59:40You think he'll have 16, but 19 is a lot, but I, you know, I don't even know if he'll have 16.
59:47He had 58% of the snaps overall. And we know what's going to happen.
59:51I agree. Although he had one of two snaps inside the 10 today.
59:55I'm not sure as sure about the boom bust thing.
59:59Like he had the highest success rate, which kind of measures like what percentage of your rushes are successful in the NFL at running back last year.
60:07Like he generally is good at running the football and not great at everything else.
60:12Yeah. Yeah. I just wonder thinking out loud, is the offensive line without, you know, it's part of the problem.
60:19Out there left tackle is it was right now, but all right.
60:23Look, he gets the Colts and the Giants next week.
60:26So it might be kind of like put up or shut up for right cross.
60:31I'm with you on that. So let's say he has another game in week four where he doesn't average four yards a
60:38carry because he hasn't done that yet this year.
60:41Week five will be the Joe boo game for him against the Giants.
60:45All right. John, speaking of which the two and one New York Giants with a thrilling victory against the plucky upstart Tennessee Titans, really just a great win.
60:54And only the Titans would have lost this game today.
60:57The Dolphins would like a word? I don't think so.
61:00The Dolphins would have won. The Dolphins might have stayed with the Giants.
61:05Now, you know, you might be wondering about the weather.
61:08I don't know. I don't know what the answer is.
61:11There was pretty much no downfield passing in this game, but I think if you have Malik neighbors, you got to be freaking out a little bit.
61:20Yeah. Yeah. Jamie, let me throw it to you.
61:23What do you think about Malik neighbors? Five catches for 26 yards on six targets after one catch last week for one yard.
61:30I still think there's a buy low opportunity here.
61:33You know, the, the weather is a huge part of this.
61:37Let's see what happens next week when they're playing the Cardinals and what could be one of the more fun games if
61:44both offenses show up and the Cardinals defense isn't exactly the one that I think is, isn't exactly the type of defense
61:51that will just completely shut down the Giants. But look, we kind of knew going into the season, right?
61:57What John Harbaugh wanted, which was to be a more conservative offense.
62:01And, you know, we thought it was going to be with Jackson dart.
62:05So maybe there'd be some opportunities for some explosives because of how dark plays.
62:10And I still think there's that potential with James Winston because of how I think this defense will go.
62:16So when they're challenged and they're chasing points, we might see a better Malik neighbors.
62:21So if you can get him while he's cheap, get him while he's cheap.
62:25I wouldn't be overspending for him. I don't know how healthy is.
62:29You know, he asked about DJ more, you know, we neighbors was playing through a shoulder injury that, you know, may still
62:36be bothering him also, but this may just not be the Jameis experience that we were hoping for.
62:42And again, it's one game, one game in bad weather, one game where they didn't have to do very much to win the game.
62:50So let's just see what happens when they're challenged a little bit in the next coming weeks.
62:55They also almost lost the game if it wasn't for Cam Ward getting picked in the end zone like he did at the end of the game.
63:04If they score a touchdown, the Giants lose. The tenor of this conversation changes completely.
63:09If there's one nice thing for fantasy, Cam Scadaboo, it looks like the Giants have settled on him as their main back.
63:16Almost 80% of the snaps, almost every single third down snap and all their snaps inside the 10.
63:22No way. Yeah. There's snaps inside the 10. All three of their snaps inside the 10.
63:27Well, yeah, he's their guy on the other side.
63:30Is there anything encouraging here? I mean, look, do you know, are you thrilled about six catches or 58 yards for Carnell Tate?
63:37No, but it's worth it's not bad. Wanda Robinson is a bi-week receiver at this point.
63:42All right. Wanda. Wanda had a good game against his old team and Tony Pollard.
63:47I mean, Tony one target last week, Tony Pollard 21 touches.
63:51Tajay Spears had three. It's the Giants. They stink.
63:54But Tony Pollard had 21 touches and Tajay Spears.
63:56I mean, yeah, it's coming in at less than 100%.
64:00I think if we have him on the injury report again, then you're more encouraged about, you know, Pollard moving forward.
64:06Are you ever going to feel like, oh, I have to start Tony Pollard?
64:11I think he's in that, you know, Judkins range with less enthusiasm.
64:15Yeah. All right. Baltimore, Houston, Indy, Cleveland, Cincy. Not that it matters.
64:19Tennessee's next five games. San Francisco, 36 and Arizona, 27.
64:22Is Cam Ward the starting quarterback for the Titans in 2027?
64:26No, I'm starting to think now. It sucks. By the way, he doesn't throw a lot of interceptions.
64:31I know he threw that pick. That was his first in like a very long time first of the season.
64:38At one point during the game, they said he had thrown 158 straight passes.
64:42I think without an interception, they jinxed him. Yeah.
64:45That's ridiculous. That's a jinx. Phenomenal jinx. San Francisco with the win here over Arizona.
64:50Good game for fantasy. You know, the Niners really didn't run a lot of plays.
64:55I mean, they had the ball for 21 minutes and 16 seconds.
64:59If you started Debo Samuel, you are, you should buy a lottery ticket.
65:03He had an 80-yard touchdown, which didn't even count as a catch.
65:07He had it on a hook and, oh, you started him, Heath?
65:11Yeah. Well, I mean, I have 28 leagues. I started everyone.
65:14There you go. But no, no, I mean, it's hard to run a lot of plays when you average 11 yards per pass and six yards per rush.
65:23The field's just not that long. If it only takes you four plays to score and then you have to wait to
65:30get the ball back again, you just don't get to run very many plays.
65:35Brock Purdy's the MVP of the league right now, right?
65:38He's up there. I would say. Josh Allen would like to have a word.
65:43Josh Allen, not after this week. Like, you've got to take, you've got to put him under the microscope.
65:49Well, if they had, if they had, I mean, he, Josh Allen did a good job of having that game against the
65:56quality of opponents that you can still win. Um, if they would have played a competitive football team and lost the game,
66:03then he'd be out of the, yeah, very be first, but it's one of those two.
66:08He's a great call. Heath. I mean, you're, you're crushing it with this preseason call of Brock Purdy.
66:14Uh, you talked about Jeremiah love Jamie talked about Michael Wilson.
66:18I think you can move on from Marvin Harrison at this point, right?
66:22Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It was more encouraging, but clearly not where you want to be.
66:27And I don't know, what do you, what do you think about the 49ers weapons?
66:32If Mike Evans misses time, it's just obviously Kittles, you know, he was started in 88% of leagues and he's going to
66:39keep being started, but does Debo become a must start?
66:42Um, and he's who's going to, who's going to toss the bolts home.
66:46Well, yeah, I'll probably I'll start Debo as a wide receiver three.
66:50If there's no Mike Evans. Okay. Great. And I think it's Jordan Watkins.
66:54Yep. That you mentioned how about Baltimore 34 Dallas 31?
66:57Was this the game of the week? Yes, it was the game of the week.
67:02Great job. Thank you very much. Except you butchered it though.
67:06I did. I did it in Portuguese. Give me a break.
67:09No. So he, so this is what we have so far.
67:13We have a terrible game of the week for the first week of the season.
67:18We have a mostly forgotten game of the week for the second week.
67:22He forgot it. He didn't do it. Totally. Yes.
67:25And then he played the wrong music for the third game.
67:28And you butchered a language. Yes, I did. That was Google.
67:32But I'm going to still give you credit for this one.
67:36He 100% said in Portuguese. And so we're, we're getting in trouble for that one.
67:40Oh yeah. All right. Zay flowers is amazing. He had a hundred and four total yards and almost had a touchdown.
67:47And how do you say that in Portuguese, Jamie?
67:50Stop. Pickens is back, I guess. What the heck are we supposed to do with Jake Ferguson?
67:56He 35% started. I mean, he's got 11 targets this season, but he has three touchdowns.
68:01Probably ignore him in week four. And then when the buys start happening, he's someone you might start.
68:07Okay. Anything else? Don't you consider tight ends like this?
68:10Like he's obviously a touchdown or bust tight end, but when they're on high scoring teams and they're expected to be in
68:17high scoring games, do you give them maybe just like a once over just before you lock in your lineup?
68:23I would just say that like he's scored a touchdown per game so far this season and he's right now tight end 16.
68:31No, I get it. I'm not excited about starting him, but he got tackled at the goal.
68:36Yeah, that's right. That's right. He's a red zone guy for them.
68:40It's really all that comes down to. They've certainly used lamb and pickings more for obvious reasons, but if it's going to
68:47be a high scoring game and you're really stuck at tight end, Jake Ferguson is an option.
68:53Okay. I mean, the Cowboys and the Ravens are pretty much, you know, self-explanatory.
68:57I guess if you, if you want, we can talk about Lamar.
69:01It's not like he's lighting it up. Uh, no, I thought the thing we should just say, like very encouraging that Zay
69:08Flowers played as little as he did and gave us what he did.
69:12Well, how much did he play? I'm going to tell you.
69:16Give me a second, unless you've got it. I'm going to get, no, I'm just going off the eyeball test.
69:22I'm going to guess 45% of the snaps. His route rate was 28.4%.
69:27So I think I need, no, hold on. Okay.
69:30I need a ruling, Jamie, since Zay Flowers played half of week one and basically played half the snaps in week two,
69:37he should basically have one game played for the contest.
69:40No. 41 points. We're not understanding it. Nope. Baltimore with the three 14 routes.
69:44Sorry, I'm sorry to cut you off on 14 routes, 64% of the route of the routes they had.
69:51Remember Lamar only threw 20 times. Yeah. All right.
69:53So what is the point per game now? 17 snaps total.
69:57What's that? Flowers versus Smith. What's the points per game?
70:00It's like 21 to 18. 21, 18 Flowers. Flowers is up.
70:04Okay. Nice. I think he had, I think he had 15.
70:07Las Vegas, 35, New Orleans, 27. Another really exciting game.
70:11And Tyler Shuck got a little sloppy at the end there.
70:14Brock Bowers, we talked about at the top of the show.
70:18Uh, Kirk cousins, two straight games of 26 or more fantasy points and six points per pass touchdown leagues.
70:24Jamie starter sick. Kirk cousins against the chiefs next week.
70:27And don't forget, he had a three touchdown game against Miami, but he also threw two interceptions in that game.
70:34So he's been playing very well. Um, I think you look at him and you say, if I'm stuck, I'll consider it.
70:41If I have him on my bench in a super flex or two quarterback league, it's probably time to start putting him in, in the, the starting lineup.
70:50If not make sure he's in your starting lineup.
70:53Look, he just got his best receiver back and Brock Bowers didn't look like he was injured at all.
70:59So I don't know. I, I think when you start to compare him to God, Drake may and Justin Herbert, you know, it's, it's Kirk cousins.
71:07John Johnson with two TDs. Um, what, how do you not even put him in the notes?
71:13Ooh, not Jawan Johnson. Somebody scored two touchdowns in this game and he's not even in the notes.
71:18Who the hell am I missing? Mike Washington? Noah fan.
71:22Noah fan. Yeah. I mean, it's wild. that's three on the season for thrown to the tight ends a lot.
71:28And yeah, I don't think they had what six touchdowns from their tight ends in this game combined.
71:34Yeah. Both teams combined. How about that? Bowers had one mayor had one fan had to John had to great game for John.
71:41Who's a more valuable player, you know, at their respective position, Devon Valey or Jawan Johnson?
71:47Jawan Johnson. Do you feel like you can have any confidence in starting Valey?
71:51It's waning. He's still going to be on the cusp of a starter in three series.
71:56Maybe, but here's a game where Shuck threw 42 times.
71:59The Saints just are continuing to do what they do.
72:03And the tight ends were just way more involved than what we would have said collectively.
72:0812 targets combined. Jawan at eight. It just makes me a little nervous about Valey moving forward.
72:13Dave's favorite band from like the 2000s. fountains of waning.
72:17Anything else you want to talk about from this game?
72:20Does Bowers catch McBride? See how close they are as it is.
72:24Can we just rewind I don't know 10 months and Brock Bowers coming back and scoring 40 something points in his first game back from injury.
72:32And oh he's tight at one. Not even rest of season.
72:36Just overall he's going to be the better. You know like are we getting ahead of ourselves at Bowers?
72:42I don't think we are. But this is not the first time he's done something like this.
72:47I don't know. Listen man both these guys are awesome.
72:50I'll take my chances getting ahead of with somebody if it's Brock Bowers.
72:55So Bowers has 27.6 PPR points today and McBride's got 19.7 on the season per game.
73:00Per game. Yeah. No no total points though. Oh you think Bowers will catch McBride in total points?
73:06I don't know if that's going to happen. I'm 100% taking McBride rest of season.
73:11But Bowers 27.6 is better than any game McBride's had this year.
73:14McBride's just had three games with at least 16.
73:17You're taking McBride rest of season? 100%. Wow. Okay.
73:20You're not? Look I was the McBride guy. I don't know if I'm taking McBride rest of season.
73:26But I love him. McBride have to do? I mean come on.
73:30McBride is awesome. This was never about McBride not being awesome.
73:33This is about Bowers being better. He's got 34 targets in three games.
73:38Trey McBride like I mean what does he have to do?
73:41So help me with the math there smart guy.
73:44How many is 13 per game? I mean it's more.
73:47It's 39 but still like I honestly think McBride has earned it at this point.
73:52McBride is awesome. Being at the top box he's earned it.
73:56We have one more game left. We have Minnesota and Tampa Bay.
74:00Minnesota 23, Tampa Bay 16. Johnny who has more Jordan Addison 78% rostered.
74:04He had nine targets on Kyler's 29 pass attempts.
74:07So that's a shallow league guy that you have to go get.
74:11Have we really gone an hour and 11 minutes and not talked about Jefferson leaving with an injury?
74:16I don't know what the severity is. If he's out next week, I'm going to sit Justin Jefferson.
74:22great. If he's out next week, I'm going to start Jordan Addison.
74:26There's fancy advice for you folks. Kyler Murray, I'm going to sit.
74:30Were you impressed with Murray in this game? No.
74:33He started 6 of 8 and finished 9 of 21.
74:36But I'm not entirely sure I'm going to sit him next week.
74:40In fact, I'm probably going to start him next week.
74:43It's Miami. I think if Kyler had been signed to a Vikings team that didn't have Justin Jefferson, we wouldn't have had any interest in him really.
74:52We concerns here, Jamie? The last two games have been a little First of all, that's such a great joke from Mike in chat.
75:00Don't show it, but it's very good. Oh, okay.
75:03Don't see it, but anyway. Any concerns over Bucky?
75:06Yeah, any concerns over Bucky Irving? 15 carries, 2 catches today, and 58 total yards.
75:10I'll be more concerned if Baker doesn't play than I will be if Baker does play.
75:16Because if Baker plays, think Bucky looked great. I know you said there was a potential injury.
75:21I thought he was the one that got destroyed on the play that Baker got hurt in past protection.
75:27I'm not this is clearly one of the best defenses in football.
75:31Their offensive line is struggling right now. Bucky had a couple bad drops, but Baker is playing horrible.
75:37If he's going to continue to play horrible or a backup is right on the money.
75:42I don't know, but it couldn't be a much more useless one than what Abuga did.
75:47Yeah. Yeah. Well, he was started in 75% of leagues.
75:50It honestly surprised me a little bit. I thought it would be lower than that.
75:55I would have taken it. I would have taken 11.
75:59It's going to be. Yeah, for sure. Although they do play Green Bay next week.
76:03All right. Last game Rams at Broncos. Green Bay or Tampa Bay.
76:07What's that? I think Green Bay is worse. I would agree, but Tampa looks awful.
76:1224-13 Rams over the Broncos. Any major takeaways from this one?
76:16No way. The Broncos are scoring 13 points. All right.
76:19We'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today.
76:22Hope week three was awesome for you. We'll see you soon.
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