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0:20All right, we're going to pivot to the running back position and maybe we're going to slander the best running back of
0:28the last decade in fantasy football a little bit.
0:31Why not? Hey, I'm Liz Loza. This is Facts Versus Feelings and today's fact is that the label shouldn't cost more than the product.
0:39Daniel Dopp, in your cozy little box. Welcome back.
0:42It's so good to see you again. Hello, Liz Loza.
0:45Thank you so much for having me back. You're on vacation for like two weeks.
0:50It was unbelievably boring. No. You're never, you weren't?
0:53I was not on vacation two weeks. I was on vacation six days.
0:58Thank you very much. Well, it's been forever since I've seen your face and don't ever do that to me again.
1:05It was far too long. That's all I'm saying.
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1:23Okay, let's get into it then because our bosses do want us to talk about a little bit of fantasy here.
1:30So we are going to talk about a bunch of brand name players.
1:34We are going to let our league mates draft instead of us.
1:38And I'm going to start in Cincinnati with Joe Burrow.
1:42Oh, Joey B. Remember in that quarterback episode where we watched his dad tuck his son's jersey into his jeans and how
1:49it's just like the most endearing thing in the world.
1:52Like that made me fall in love with Joe Burrow in general.
1:56But we're talking fantasy. 2026. Liz, how are you feeling about Joey B here this year?
2:02I mean, I don't know how anyone doesn't love Joey B.
2:05To your point, his dad's like jersey jean tuck chef's kiss in terms of a sweet dad move.
2:11We love it. We love the ice water that runs through his veins.
2:16We also, some of us, love watching him smoke a stogie in the locker room.
2:21That didn't hurt anything. But most of all, we adore the fact, we revere the fact that he is such an elite passer.
2:29I mean, he has been a top 10 fantasy producer at the position in three of his last five seasons.
2:35But he's also had some tough injury luck, right?
2:38Like part of that is due to an aggressive playing style and we dig that.
2:43But also largely he's missed time because of really porous offensive line play.
2:48I mean, Joe Burrow has managed three seasons. Just three seasons with over 10 games played.
2:53Meanwhile, he's also had three with 10 or fewer games played.
2:57Now, there is a lot of optimism in Cincinnati that this offensive line will be better in 2026 with all five of the starters returning.
3:05But that's quite a gamble given everything we've seen from the past.
3:09And also, this I think is the most key part.
3:13Burrow doesn't really offer a lot of rushing upside.
3:16So he's going to need to have a meteoric season via his arm to get you the stats necessary.
3:22For context, Burrow has recorded exactly 330 total rushing yards over the past three seasons combined.
3:2712 quarterbacks did that last season alone. And 12 of the top 15 quarterbacks last season scored over 16% of their fantasy points on the ground.
3:36Burrow, meanwhile, only 3% of his fantasy production came via his rushing totals.
3:40So that just shows you how much he's going to have to do as a passer alone to pay off his ADP,
3:48which is currently in the sixth round and at a position that is so deep.
3:53Yeah, it's really tough for me to want him to run the ball more, too.
3:58Given that injury history that you talk about, Liz, I want him to be on the field throwing the ball healthy as much as possible.
4:06So I want to ask you this, then. It kind of sounds like you might be out on drafting Joey B this year.
4:14Let's say that you are. Would you rather target a quarterback in the tier ahead of Joe Burrow or wait a little
4:21bit and target a quarterback in the tier after him?
4:25Well, I'm already on record for saying that I would invest in Jaden Daniels because of his rushing upside.
4:31So, yes, if I am going to pick a quarterback quote early, it would be Daniels.
4:36Otherwise, I do like waiting on the position. If you look where Burrow is being drafted, I think a sneaky pick would
4:44actually be Lad McConkie if you wanted to pivot to the wide receiver position because I think he has some nice breakout potential.
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5:49Ooh, I like that call, Liz. All right, we're going to pivot to the running back position, and maybe we're going to
5:57slander the best running back of the last decade in fantasy football a little bit.
6:02Why not? Christian McCaffrey touched the ball a bazillion times last year, Liz.
6:06It's not about how good we know the guy is.
6:10It's about what he can be for us in this upcoming season.
6:14How are you approaching him this year? Yeah, that's the thing.
6:17We have to live in the present in fantasy football, and while there is no downplaying McCaffrey's dual threat skill set or
6:25his importance as the engine in Kyle Shanahan's offense, there's also no downplaying the 413 total touches close to a bazillion that he absorbed last season.
6:33You know, there's this phrase in fantasy circles called the curse of 370, and for those of you who don't know, it's
6:41been statistically matched with data to show that running backs who touch the ball 370 times or more have an immediate decline
6:48in efficiency and production the following year. Now, it doesn't mean they can't bounce back in subsequent seasons, but the following year often takes a hit, numerically speaking.
6:58So, you know, a lot of people got very angry at me last year when I said this exact same thing about
7:05Saquon Barkley, who was coming off of a 400-plus total touch season.
7:09And while I said that he was probably still going to be a successful rusher, P.S., he finished RB14 overall, he wasn't
7:16worth drafting as the third running back overall. Right now, Christian McCaffrey is the RB3 coming off boards.
7:22I just don't want to take someone that I know is not going to pay that off immediately.
7:28Yeah, I am with you on that, Liz. And it's just not about the workload to me.
7:34It's not only that, but he is getting older.
7:37And as you see running backs get older, they often become a little less efficient in their age.
7:43That is an excellent point. I mean, McCaffrey is entering his age 30 season.
7:48Now, that isn't old, but for a running back that is up there, especially for a running back whose efficiency has declined over the past couple of seasons.
7:57Since arriving in San Francisco, McCaffrey, with the exception of 2023, has been the RB30 or worse in true yards per carry.
8:05Last year, he averaged 3.9 yards per carry. I don't see him bouncing back in that regard.
8:10In fact, I feel like most of his production is reliant on a ton of receiving work.
8:16And now we've got Mike Evans and hopefully a healthy Ricky Pearsall in the mix.
8:21So that's just a lot of risk you're taking so early in the first five picks of your fantasy draft.
8:28Let's talk about that young kid in New York, Liz.
8:31Malik Neighbors, when he is healthy and on the field.
8:34The dude is absolute dynamite for your fantasy squad.
8:38But healthy and on the field are the two key parts of that sentence.
8:42How are you feeling about drafting him this year?
8:45Yeah, so obviously the knee injury is my biggest concern.
8:49But I do want to review the timeline of the knee injury just so that we're all on the same page.
8:56Now, he suffered a grade 3 tear to his right knee in which he damaged both his ACL as well as his meniscus.
9:03Now, this wasn't just a straightforward tear, which made the surgery more delicate and the healing timeline, frankly, more complicated.
9:10Six months after going under the knife, he then received a cleanup surgery due to, quote, stiffness in the knee.
9:17Daniel, Malik Neighbors is an elite athlete. He is 22 years old and seven months after initially sustaining the knee injury, he
9:24was so stiff that he needed a subsequent operation.
9:27Like, I don't know about you, but nothing was stiff in me in 22.
9:32And I definitely wasn't as in shape as Malik Neighbors.
9:35No way. When I was 22, that was the prime of my body.
9:40If I felt stiff then, imagine what 42 was going to feel like.
9:44I already know what it feels like. I don't know.
9:47How does it feel? It's okay. I didn't need that, Liz.
9:51Didn't need it. Anyway, as it pertains to Neighbors, like, that's a big concern, right?
9:56And I think that it's also part of why everyone's being so mercurial about his timeline because he is so young and
10:03he is so valuable and you don't want to rush him back.
10:07But we don't know if he's going to participate in training camp.
10:11And part of the importance of that is gaining reps with Jackson Dart because right now Neighbors has drawn just three career targets from Jackson Dart.
10:20They've had very little time to build chemistry or establish a rapport.
10:24Plus, I dug up this stat, which I found really interesting.
10:28Jackson Dart ranks 28th in passer rating when throwing past the sticks.
10:32We like to see Malik Neighbors on a deep ball.
10:35We also know that both Darius Slayton as well as Darnell Mooney are going to draw a handful of those deep looks.
10:43So that only further diminishes Neighbors upside, which makes his third round ADP really tough to ROI on.
10:49Yeah, third round ADP is, I think, where you lose me on Malik Neighbors.
10:53Eventually, it might be worth taking a shot on, but not at that price point, unfortunately, Liz.
10:59All right. Before we move on, I do want to say this.
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12:06This is a safe place. It's a place where we can feel free sharing our feelings.
12:11Now let's get comfortable on the couch with a little fantasy therapy.
12:16A safe space for all your fantasy questions. Daniel Dopp, what submissions do we have this week?
12:21The very first one that we have, Liz Loza, is from Moe in Georgia.
12:26Hi, my name's Moe. I'm from central Illinois, but I now live in Georgia.
12:31So I'm a Saints fan, and I have a question.
12:34Should we just completely ignore Saints players for fantasy this year?
12:38It really seems like the GM over there doesn't have no idea what he's doing.
12:43It's been pretty disappointing watching this team the past couple years.
12:46But a good thing I'm a Bears fan, too.
12:49But what do you think about the Saints players?
12:52Just fade them? Stay away from them? Or are there any key players that you think we should be targeting?
12:59Thank you. Thank you, Moe. No, I gotta be honest, Daniel.
13:03I have never heard someone say, thank goodness I'm a Bears fan.
13:07Like that. Yeah. What a timeline we're living on.
13:10I've also not had someone say I'm from central Illinois, but I live in Georgia, and I'm a Saints fan.
13:17So many things don't line up about this question, Liz.
13:20But I am curious, which Saints are you in on this year?
13:24Well, I think we have to be in on Chris Olave, right?
13:28Like he has top 15 appeal. Now, you're not getting him in the eighth round this year like you were last year.
13:35But that's what happens when a player averages nearly 17 fantasy points per game.
13:40You know, their stock rises. So I do like Chris Olave, and I think his ADP is completely fair.
13:46I'm a little bit skeptical about Travis Achan. I'm gonna be honest.
13:50But I don't mind where he's going. He's going in the fifth round right now, just behind Cam Scadaboo and ahead of Bucky Irving.
13:58So depending on how my roster is shaping up, I'm gonna take the volume call on him.
14:04I'm not sure that he's going to smash the way I'm fact sure he's not going to smash the way he did in Jacksonville last year.
14:13But fifth round ADP for an RB2? Borderline RB1?
14:16What do you think about that, Daniel? That doesn't seem too bad for me.
14:21Like a borderline RB1, you know what you're getting with him.
14:24You should have expectations of getting exactly what you think he's going to be.
14:29He's not going to outperform that. I'm actually more in on Tyler Shuck.
14:33If I decide to wait on the quarterback position, Liz, I feel like I don't have to go with the quarterback early.
14:41Because with the way that the kid ended his rookie season last year gave me a big boost heading into this season.
14:48And you can get him like as your last pick in the double digit rounds.
14:53I've talked him up a little sneaky rushing upside with him as well.
14:58So Chris Olave, Travis Achan and Tyler Shuck are some decent options to help make you feel a little bit better, Mo.
15:05Yes, agree with that one. All right, Liz. Next question that we have comes from Jose Ramos from Puerto Rico.
15:12Oh, mijo. Hey, guys. Huge fan of the show.
15:15My name is Jose Ramos. I'm all the way calling from Puerto Rico.
15:19Right now, we're a few months away from the NFL season.
15:23Could you guys give me one player that you might think that's right now being drafted very late in rounds that might pick up steam?
15:31Thanks, guys. So I want to give a new player because I want to keep bringing new names to everybody.
15:38It's Jaden Higgins, wide receiver in Houston. He was drafted 34th overall out of Iowa State in 2025.
15:44Really exciting athletic profile. He recorded a 9.63 RAS.
15:47That stands for Relative Athletic Score. Just in terms of skill set so you can get an idea if you didn't know.
15:54A really nice ball catcher. A pretty wide catch radius.
15:58He ended his rookie campaign third on the team and targets behind Nico Collins and Dalton Schultz.
16:03No big surprise there. So not a voluminous amount of looks.
16:07But this is pretty interesting. He did record six touchdowns, the exact same number as Collins.
16:12Now, Daniel, you just said about Tyler Shuck, the way he ended his season is important because the hope is that a
16:20player will pick up the top of the next season where they finish the last.
16:25And I think Higgins has an opportunity to do that.
16:28I think Higgins has breakout potential. But I also think he's a player that could catch steam, to use Jose's word, as
16:35the season progresses and the summer progresses. I love that call because, like you said, not only do I think he comes
16:43in as a really nice wide receiver too already for that team, but if anything happens, he would just factor in as
16:50the wide receiver one immediately with a guy that we've watched have some injury concerns in the past.
16:56So I love the call of Jaden Higgins. I am all in on it, especially because that ADP is so easy to be able to absorb.
17:05Another guy that I like really quick late, Jalen McMillan.
17:08I've talked about him a bunch. If anything happens to Chris Godwin, I believe in this Tampa Bay offense, Jalen McMillan is
17:16going to be a beautiful, beautiful, cheap wide receiver too for that Tampa Bay team.
17:21And I think he could look really nice for your fantasy squad as well.
17:25And another J name. That's right. Another J name.
17:28I didn't even realize that. Also inspired by Jose.
17:31That's a hot dog. It's a J in English.
17:34Next one is a DM. This is from at Dpeak underscore 24.
17:38Arizona backfield has me raising many glasses. Please help, Liz.
17:42So wait, raising glasses like as in cheers or raising glasses because you need to take shots because it's so confusing.
17:49Did you? Yeah, I'm confused by that too. I think because it's please help.
17:54I think it's the shots one. I think maybe.
17:57I think maybe he doesn't feel there's some concern about Jeremiah Love in that backfield.
18:02So I think the Arizona backfield is decidedly crowded, but it is not complicated, if that makes sense.
18:08Because when I look at Jeremiah Love, I am not doubting the fact that he is the alpha.
18:14Now, he had a dual threat skill set that he shined with at Notre Dame and then was drafted, what, as the
18:21third overall pick at the running back position by Arizona.
18:24So there's no way the Cardinals aren't going to lean on him, especially when we know he has the ability to be leaned upon in a versatile way.
18:34So I think Love will give you top 12 fantasy running back production.
18:38Not too concerned about it. Next, we've got the thumper.
18:42Obviously, that's Tyler Algier. He's projected to be the short yardage or spellback.
18:46I think there's some flex value there. Definitely a solid insurance policy.
18:50If something were to happen to Love, knock on all the wood because we don't want it to.
18:56But I don't think that Algier is necessarily someone you need to add until, you know, until the double digit weeks of
19:03the season when you're starting to look towards the back half of the year.
19:08I am fully with you. You just laid out that entire backfield, which is why I'm not concerned about Love in fantasy football.
19:16I do not understand it from an actual NFL perspective, like using a draft pick to take a running back.
19:22Yeah, that's not what we're talking about. Well, fantasy football, I'm not worried about Jeremiah Love.
19:28All right. That's going to do it right now.
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21:44It's like a beat. Is there a storm coming?
21:47You know what? That's the Doppler radar, Liz. That's what that is.
21:51Oh my God. My great, great, great, great, great uncle, Johan Dopp, actually created the Doppler radar back in the day.
21:58And so now we have it in our family.
22:01No, it's possibly true. Listen, I'm bringing three guys to the table that have been on my radar through draft season the last little bit.
22:09I've been doing a bunch of best ball drafts.
22:13I've been doing a bunch of mock drafts. I got three guys I brought to the table that I have been drafting a bunch, been on my radar.
22:22I want to know how you feel about them.
22:25Okay? Okay. First one, Ken Walker III. 2025 was really good to KW3, right?
22:3017 games played, most of his career. He had 1,300 total yards, also most of his career.
22:35But then, unfortunately, only five touchdowns. So even though he played really well and played the entire season, he didn't find the
22:43end zone a lot because stupid Zach Charbonnet had 12 touchdowns, making all of us fantasy managers super frustrated if you had Ken Walker III.
22:51And now he leaves that Seattle backfield, no longer has to split time with anyone, and goes to Kansas City where there's just dudes behind him.
23:00There's no big name like Zach Charbonnet behind him in Kansas City.
23:04So now I understand he will eventually be the lead back of what will be a Mahomes offense, potentially Justin Fields, to start the season.
23:12But he's being drafted as running back 14 right now, Liz.
23:16And I feel like if things go the way that they could in Kansas City, that feels low to me.
23:23I think RB7, RB10 is even in play based on how good this offense could be.
23:28I'm curious how you feel about KW3. I really like this player.
23:32And sometimes I will admit it is hard for me to divorce adoration for a player's skill set from their fantasy potential.
23:39I have a tough time doing it if I think a player is really explosive.
23:44And the thing I think this is important that makes KW3 so incredible is his big play ability, right?
23:51His explosiveness, his ability to get past defenders. Last year, he was the RB3 in breakaway runs and the RB6 in evaded tackles.
23:58And when you look at his touch total, those numbers are all the more impressive since he was sharing that time with Charbonnet.
24:06I think that the Chiefs really also appreciate, respect, revere even this sort of skill set that he could bring to an
24:14offense and a ground game that has been, let's be honest, listless for the past couple of seasons.
24:20So I think that there is a massive opportunity for Kenneth Walker to work as Andy Reid's bell cow.
24:26We know that's the way he rolls. So volume could be huge here.
24:30The asterisk to that and why I think his ADP is a bit depressed because everybody is doing the research and that
24:38is good is because, well, I think there's a little bit of concern about the Mahomes knee issue and maybe Patrick not
24:45being who we expect at the top of the season.
24:48But more importantly than that, Kenneth Walker has never exceeded 230 carries in a single NFL regular season.
24:55I got another running back I want to talk to you about.
24:59It's the other rookie running back that nobody cares about.
25:02The guy that's in Seattle right now and that's Jadarian Price.
25:06He's going to step into a lead role right away.
25:09This dude, I think, is unbelievable given what his ADP is right now, Liz.
25:14We have no idea when Zach Charbonnet is going to be back, right?
25:18He got hurt. But we do know that Jadarian Price is going to be the RB1 for probably at least half of the season.
25:26And even when he does come back, Stefania Bell tells us over and over and over on Fantasy Focus, there is a
25:33big difference between return to play and return to performance.
25:37It's one thing to come back and be on the field.
25:40That's another thing to be the guy that you were when you got hurt in the first place.
25:46So now Jadarian Price is in a spot that I feel like the rest of us need to realize how valuable he can be in Seattle.
25:55The Seahawks also know the way to win football games is to not have Sam Darnold throw the ball 50 times.
26:02I feel like this is such a good price because no one has given Jadarian Price the same kind of love that
26:10we're giving the other rookie running back in Jeremiah Love.
26:13Good price on Price. I mean, I think part of the reason Love is going so much higher is because of his ability as a pass catcher.
26:22And Price didn't really show that as much in college.
26:25But I'm 100% with you. I have loved Price's landing spot since April 23rd, 2026.
26:30I think he's going to touch the ball 12 to 14 times.
26:34Mike Clay has him projected to clear 220 carries.
26:37We love that sort of volume. I am not thinking about, honestly, when I am drafting my team, I am not thinking about November.
26:46I am thinking about September because you need to win early and then adjust.
26:50Again, evolution takes time. Nothing is permanent. These are all mantras we need to get back to used to saying in fantasy.
26:58If we want to have a winning season. I also love the fact that Price was already getting first team reps early last month at OTAs.
27:06I think he's, you know, going as a top 25 running back, but he has top 15 appeal.
27:12All right. I got one more here for you, Liz Loza, and it is going to be Isaiah Likely from the Giants.
27:20I'm going to dive into the tight end spot just a little bit because it almost feels too easy for me.
27:27Jackson Dart gets a new head coach, John Harbaugh.
27:30Love that. Because what does he know how to do?
27:33Coach mobile quarterbacks. And I love being able to see what he can do in this Giants offense, especially with him bringing
27:41over not only Isaiah Likely, but he's got Darnell Mooney and hopefully Malik Nabors in this offense.
27:46But let's just talk about Isaiah Likely. He comes over to be the Mark Andrews here for the New York Giants.
27:53He has never, never in his career had 500 receiving yards or 50 catches.
27:58This is absolutely a trust the process kind of moment because he's always had another guy in front of him.
28:05But right now, everything is lining up for Isaiah Likely to not only be the number one tight end, but there's a
28:12shot if any of this Malik Nabors injury lingers, he could be one of, if not the highest targeted player on the Giants this season, Liz.
28:21Yeah. He could be the Giants Dalton Schultz. And you're getting him where?
28:2513th round, 12th round. Yeah. That's so late. I love this pick.
28:29I love the move. We always talk about a reunion and how beneficial that is for players.
28:35There's an obvious reunion here between Harbaugh and Likely.
28:38I like it a lot. He's my tight end 12 heading into the season currently.
28:43I love that call. This is why we're always on the same page with everything, Liz.
28:48I appreciate this. I love it. Now, is there still a storm coming or is the Doppler radar forecasting clear skies ahead?
28:56Doppler radar has clear skies for the rest. Oh, you know what?
29:00Actually, over Chicago, I do see a big storm forming right now.
29:04Oh, that's fine. I don't live there anymore. So.
29:07Oh, okay. All right. Last call. Today, we learned that a jersey tucked into jeans gives epic zaddy vibes that people are
29:14now, what, relieved to be Bears fans? And that a designer label doesn't guarantee a quality product.
29:20Remember, investing in value is more important than buying a brand name.
29:24Be sure to check out my latest column, ironically titled Brand Name Players, I'll Let My League Maids Draft, available now on the dot com.
29:32And remember, you can leave us a voicemail. Hit us up at 323-391-4855.
29:37Until next time, may your facts be solid, your feelings be right, and your busts be someone else's problem.
29:43You're reading Dungeon Crawler, Carl? That's what I'm reading right now.
29:47Oh, you are Donut Princess. Like, yes, I'm reading book one.
29:50Oh, yes. All right. Well, do your thing.