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0:03Welcome into the FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Podcast. I'm Ryan Warmly, joined this Friday morning by Pat Fitzmaurice and Derek Brown.
0:09We are talking some Week 4 Key Questions. And Fitz, the Cleveland Browns are in first place in the AFC North.
0:16No team in the NFL has more wins than them.
0:19I want to quickly talk about that game last night.
0:22I didn't actually get to watch it. I was out of the house last night, but obviously I was following along.
0:28And the Browns are 3-1 on a three-game winning streak here, Fitz.
0:32And Todd Munkin, like Coach of the Year, Deshaun Watson, he's certainly not going to win something like Comeback Player of the
0:39Year, but it's working better than I expected it to.
0:42If I had a friend from another country who was starting to get into football and wanted to adopt an NFL team, I might recommend the Cleveland Browns.
0:51Like, as a team that, like, as a team that, look, get in on the ground floor of a team that has
0:57been a, I won't say historic failure, because obviously, like in the 50s, and 60s, the Browns had some awesome teams, even in the 70s and 80s.
1:06But, like, things are really pointing in the right direction for this team.
1:10A lot of exciting talent on defense. They're young pass catchers.
1:13Jeez, Denzel Boston, Casey Concepcion, Harold Fannin, incredible. Quinchon Judkins, not bad.
1:17I'd love to see what he could do once this line gets going.
1:21And all you have to do is get the quarterback thing right, and Deshaun Watson actually playing passably so far this season for the Browns.
1:29So, man, things are really looking up for the Cleveland Browns for a change, and, like, their fans deserve it, man.
1:35They've been through the ringer. This whole Deshaun Watson thing has been a nightmare.
1:39Finally nice to see Deshaun Watson winning games for them.
1:42Yeah, that was fun to see, and someone might have had the money line on the Cleveland Browns.
1:48Someone that we are excited for. DeVro, is this, like, a Todd Munkin credit?
1:52Is this a credit to the roster that's around Deshaun Watson?
1:56Is it a credit to Watson? Not that we want to go out of our way to, you know, give him too
2:03many props, but where do you kind of point to as what's been successful so far for the Browns this season?
2:09Oh, man, I think part of this has been schedule, because I don't think any of us believe that the Steelers are a good football team.
2:17The Panthers' defense is horrible. The Buccaneers and Baker Mayfield can't seem to get out of their own way, and Todd Bowles
2:24is going to be fired very quickly this year.
2:27So I don't want to throw cold water on the Browns.
2:30Their schedule has helped them, though. But are they outperforming expectations?
2:33Yes. And I'll point to the defense. I think the defense where it was like losing Myles Garrett, okay, knowing what we
2:40know now, Myles Garrett will probably have, you know, he had an issue, wouldn't have been part of the pass rush anyway.
2:47Jared Burr, the secondary, all of the parts or pieces playing well.
2:51I think the defensive backbone of this team is what's quietly carrying them.
2:55Deshaun Watson is playing somewhere in the vicinity of league average quarterback right now.
2:59But, yeah, Browns are very surprising. I don't want to go out of my way and be like, oh, they're amazing.
3:06And I was actually going to counterpoint and ask Fitz at the very beginning.
3:10This friend, do you like this friend or is this like a frenemy like that you're recommending the Browns?
3:16Young talent. They've rebuilt the right way. I mean, how good do the trade of the number one pick to the Jaguars?
3:23Now that I hope he's not. I hope the injury last night wasn't serious.
3:27But Mason Graham had been playing some really good ball before he went down.
3:31How good does the verse trade look right now?
3:34I mean, they're they're loaded for bear on draft capital.
3:37Like this rebuild has been really impressive. You're not wrong.
3:40Andrew Barry is really in his bag, dude. And to your point, airdrop a quarterback into this.
3:45And for everybody that didn't because I just want to for us to stretch just a little bit.
3:51Fitzy, people didn't give Denzel Boston enough love in the pre-draft process.
3:55That can also be true. He shouldn't have fallen to the second round.
3:59Fitz just has a soft spot for the Browns because he was in college back when you watch Jim Brown play.
4:05So he's always really liked that. Oh, my. I couldn't help it.
4:09How rude. On the other side of this one, Fitz, is there any sort of fantasy takeaway on this from the Steelers?
4:16Like Roman Wilson, 60 yards and a touchdown, you know, 60 plus yards and a touchdown in his last two games.
4:22You know, he's had six targets in each of those games.
4:26Anything there? Anything anywhere else on the Steelers side of things you want to hit?
4:30DK Metcalf, I think, has been getting a lot of shade.
4:34And we should probably remember that he's pretty good and probably is a fantasy starter most weeks.
4:39Jalen Warren, really good. Like he needs to be the lead guy, not Rico Dowdle, man.
4:44He's just so much better than Rico. And I just don't think we should go overboard on the Steelers passing offense because
4:51I think it was Al Michaels who dropped the stat last night that it was, what, Aaron Rodgers' first 300-yard games in 18 starts?
4:58Last 18 starts or whatever. So it's just there are going to be weeks when the passing offense is pretty dysfunctional, like
5:05it was against the Patriots in week two when they scored three points and just couldn't move the ball.
5:11Yeah. The other thing I want to take away from this, too, is Michael Pittman Jr.
5:16I think is close to, if not droppable. He's not part of the offense.
5:20There's a definitive coverage reason why he's not part of the offense because he's going to be their two-high beater.
5:26And they have played nothing but single high teams.
5:29But to that point, crap ton of single high teams still left on the ledger in the upcoming weeks.
5:35So whether it's the foot injury or the coverage stuff, he has not been a part of this offense.
5:41But also, Darnell Washington, maybe touchdown or bust streamer moving forward?
5:44Like his red zone involvement has been insane. Two catches for 15 yards for Michael Pittman, by the way, just to give the stat line.
5:52All right. Let's get into our key questions here for week four, the rest of the slate.
5:57A reminder for everybody that all of our weekly consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasypros.com.
6:02Slash rankings. We have a London game, guys. I think it's six of the next seven weeks, if I'm not mistaken, that
6:09we have one of these early window games. 930 a.m.
6:12Eastern. Obviously, you know, 630 a.m. Pacific. So that's a tough one for the West Coasters.
6:17Colts at Commanders is this first one. The Commanders impressed against the Seahawks defense last week, pulling off the upset over the defending Super Bowl champs.
6:25Can the offense stay hot with Marcus Mariota in London against the Colts, D-Bro?
6:30Yes, I absolutely think it can. Mariota played out of his mind last week.
6:34I think he's a fantastic streaming option at quarterback, much less like I think he could be a top 12 quarterback this week.
6:41The Colts defense has been god awful. He was QB 13 last week.
6:45Mariota was. And he didn't even run. And we know that like that's basically like his best asset.
6:51Terry McLaurin, Stefan Diggs, like all the parts or pieces for the Commanders offense are really in a good spot here.
6:57Like if Ja'Cory Kroski Merritt does gets another 15 to 17 opportunities and gets the end zone like he's an RB, too.
7:04So I don't want to say like this is a start him.
7:08If you got him kind of Commanders game. But this game is could be a low key shootout because I don't think
7:14either of the defenses on either side can offer pushback.
7:17Fitz, what do you make of the Colts defense as a matchup for your fantasy managers?
7:22There's just in terms of like first two weeks they face the Ravens and the Chiefs and that's going to be really difficult for a lot of defenses.
7:31In week three, they face the Texans. That's going to be pretty easy for a lot of defenses.
7:37They probably the truth is that they end up somewhere in the middle.
7:41But where are they at in your opinion in terms of a defense to be going up against with your fantasy players?
7:47I don't think they're in the middle. I think they're near the bottom.
7:51And the Texans just made them look respectable. And I know the Chiefs and Ravens are really tough matchups.
7:57But yeah, Colts defense right now 31st in yards allowed per play.
8:016.5 yards per play. Only the Cardinals are worse and only by a smidge.
8:05Colts are 30th in defensive DVOA. 30th against the run.
8:0828th against the pass. Their linebackers, I think, are the worst in the league.
8:13And so, yeah, the two guys I think I'm most excited about for the Commanders this week.
8:18Looks like there's a good chance Rashad White misses this game with a shoulder injury.
8:23So this could be a pretty good spot for Ja'Cory Kroski Merritts, even though he has not had a run of longer
8:29than 11 yards this season and is averaging only three yards per carry.
8:33And then Stephon Diggs. Like the Colts have really been getting worked over by slot receivers so far.
8:39And I don't think that means you can't play Terry McLaurin.
8:42And I think he's a reasonable play, too. Like Sauce Gardner isn't a matchup to be feared anymore.
8:48But Diggs, the Colts have been getting pummeled pretty good by slot receivers.
8:52To your point also, Fitzy, about Bill, I'm not saying that Bill was played well.
8:57This is a big offensive line problem for the Commanders.
9:00That's the problem with Bill. Dude, he has the second highest rate of all running backs at least 20 carries of getting hit at or behind the line.
9:08But to the point, the Colts have given up the fifth most yards before contact per attempt.
9:14So he might have some running lanes in this game.
9:17And it's not ideal that I think the Commanders have already ruled out Sam Cosme for this game.
9:22Ooh, yeah. So, yeah, not a good offensive line, but weakness against weakness.
9:26Yes. We've been bringing it up all week, but just to throw it out there, Ja'Cory Kroski Merritts did have a 48-yard
9:33touchdown run called back on a penalty. So those numbers would have looked even better or different against Seattle last week if that had stood.
9:41Debro, Stephon Diggs, wide receiver 31, too high, too low, just right?
9:44Too low. Too low, too low, too low. I've got him.
9:48I'm going to be above consensus right now. Where do I have Diggs?
9:52Stephon Diggs. Stephon Diggs. I've got him at wide receiver 28, so just a shade above.
9:57But if we flip over the cards, because we also need some injury stuff, like some clarity on some players.
10:03So when it's all said and done for final Sunday rankings, he might be borderline low-end wide receiver, too.
10:09And I'm not going to be surprised if he produces as a wide receiver, too, because just for everybody at home right
10:16now, Stephon Diggs is the wide receiver 17 in fantasy points per game.
10:20Let's go to game number two, Titans at Ravens.
10:22We all kind of expect, at least I hope you all kind of expect, that the Ravens are going to roll in this one.
10:30So just for fun, let's predict Derek Henry's stat line for his first ever game facing the Titans.
10:35A bit of a revenge game here. He has talked about this week that, you know, he doesn't view it in that light.
10:42It's just, you know, another week, and he has, you know, a lot of respect and love for his time there.
10:49But still, it's his first time facing the team that didn't want to resign him.
10:54So I think we can maybe have some fun with this.
10:57Debra, I'll start with you. What's his stat line going to look like?
11:01So one of the few things the Titans have actually done is play run defense.
11:06They're allowing the fourth lowest explosive run rate, 13th lowest rushing success rate, 7th lowest zone yards per carry, and Derek Henry almost 58% zone runs.
11:14Now, all that being said, Derek Henry is probably going to sniff in the neighborhood of 20 opportunities in this game.
11:20I'll give him, I'll go high level view here.
11:23I'll give him 20 touches, 95 total yards, and he gets to the ends on the least once.
11:28Yeah, the amount of work he gets in this one, I think, is interesting fits.
11:33Because on the one hand, you could say, okay, the Ravens want to like really let Henry show out against his former team.
11:40On the other hand, they need him for the long haul, and this feels like a game where if they go up
11:47early, maybe they can dial it down. Because he's been getting tons of touches.
11:51He has two games already this season through three weeks with at least 24 carries.
11:56I would imagine that they would like to lower that number a bit if they can, at least early in the year,
12:03and kind of save him a bit for December.
12:06What do you think the stat line is going to look like?
12:09I'll say pretty good volume, 129 rushing yards, one touchdown.
12:12Okay, so a big week. Yeah, by the way, I was just revisiting the Titans years for Derrick Henry.
12:18So eight seasons, 93 touchdowns. And, I mean, obviously Derrick Henry is going to wind up in the Hall of Fame.
12:25But, like, can you imagine what the career might have looked like if he hadn't been the backup to DeMarco Murray for his first two seasons?
12:33He had four starts in his first two years in the league because DeMarco Murray was ahead of him.
12:39And he only started when DeMarco Murray was banged up.
12:42But then once he got going in, what, 2018, his first year as a starter, six seasons, his last six years with
12:48the Titans, five 1,000-yard rushing seasons, including that 2,000-yard rushing season in 2020.
12:52And the only miss was in 2021 when he broke his foot in week eight.
12:57At the time, he had 937 rushing yards and 10 touchdowns through eight weeks.
13:01Yeah. And just how everybody remembers too kindly, in 2018, he was also splitting work with Deion Lewis.
13:07And Deion Lewis, yeah. So things that should have never happened to Derrick Henry.
13:11That 2018, or sorry, that 2021 season where he got hurt, where he played eight games fits, he still finished as the RB16 on the season.
13:19He played half the year. He was off to such a good start.
13:23Can I just say that, like, I honestly don't know if we've ever respected Derrick Henry enough, as much respect as we're giving him, like, right here.
13:32Because how many years in the fantasy community was, like, oh, he doesn't catch passes.
13:36He doesn't catch enough passes. Oh, Derrick Henry. And we're, like, oh, but he's not using the receiving game.
13:42And Derrick Henry is just a freaking savage, man.
13:45Yeah. I always kind of scoff a little when I hear talking heads say, like, oh, Derrick Henry is, like, the last,
13:52you know, great Hall of Fame running back because people don't care about the running game anymore.
13:57I'm, like, listen, Jameer Gibbs and B. John Robinson are amazing.
14:00Like, there are other guys coming through who could be on this level.
14:04But it is just so fun to watch a Hall of Famer who's, like, in his 30s still basically borderline playing like his prime is really cool.
14:13Gibbs and B. John are modern NFL running backs.
14:15Yes. Like, personified. Whereas Derrick Henry is a throwback to the 1970s thrown into the modern era, and it's kind of fun to watch.
14:23Yeah. Oh, it's amazing to watch. I just threw my hands up about three or four years ago, and I was just like, okay, fine.
14:31Derrick Henry is an RB1, and he is an outlier until he decides to hang in the league.
14:36I'm going to see it not work before I'm going to bet on it not working.
14:41And it's cool. Just him and Lamar in the same backfield has been absolutely as cool as everybody expected.
14:47Like, I mean, still this year, he's still 11th amongst running backs in yards after contact per attempt.
14:53It's insane. He's absurd. All right, let's go to what may be a closer game here.
14:57Patriots at Bills. Drake May has had a nightmare start to the season.
15:01He's QB 31 through three weeks. Consensus rankings haven't punished him too much yet, though.
15:06He's QB 14 in ECR. Is that too high, too low, or just right for May against this Bills defense fits?
15:13I am at QB 12. I still think Drake May is good at football.
15:17I get that people are frustrated, the Drake May investors.
15:20There are people in the Fantasy Pros Discord asking me if they should start Kirk Cousins over Drake May this week.
15:27And they seem unsatisfied when I tell them that I would still start May.
15:31And, like, of course Cousins could absolutely outscore May this week.
15:34But I'm making the bet on May 11 times out of 10 over Cousins.
15:39And I don't want to make too many excuses for May.
15:42He has not been good this year. But did have a brutal road matchup against Seattle in Week 1.
15:48That's the toughest matchup you can have for a quarterback.
15:51Wasn't really that bad against Pittsburgh in Week 2.
15:54Only needed to throw 22 passes. Didn't have any touchdowns, so, like, statistically unsatisfying.
15:58And then last week, yeah, just a terrible game against the Jaguars.
16:02And I do think not having A.J. Brown is a limiting factor.
16:05And his offensive line hasn't played well. They've kind of picked up where they left off in the playoffs last year.
16:12But I still think May is good. He still has the running ability.
16:16I mean, is Kirk Cousins going to get you any rushing production?
16:20Like, May had a 21-yard touchdown run wiped out by a holding penalty last week.
16:24And this week, I think what you like about Drake May is that the Patriots are going to have to try to
16:31keep pace with Josh Allen and the Bills. And the Bills are going to be without Christian Benford, their best cover man.
16:38So I do think there's a ray of hope for Drake May this week.
16:42Drake May looks broken on some level, Debro. And yet, I feel like just on principle, if you're in any kind of
16:49league that values quarterbacks, super flex format, dynasty, whatever, it just feels like he, on principle, is probably a smart person to
16:56try and buy at a low cost. Because the upside, even if there's no guarantee that he gets to that upside this
17:03season, the upside is just so immense for a player like this.
17:06Yeah, I don't disagree with that. I think in any dynasty format, I don't know anybody that's going to be selling him
17:13low enough to get rid of him. Like, I know Fitzy, if we have him in any leagues, you're not getting rid of him, as most people do.
17:22Because, again, we're only four weeks into the season, or we will be four weeks after Sunday into the season.
17:28So it's a small sample size. No A.J. Brown is doing a lot of, you know, disservice for Drake May.
17:34But he is not playing well. He's pressing. But to say all of this, I think there is a ray of hope
17:41that Fitzy, like, laid out here perfectly. No Christian Benford does a ton of things for Drake May.
17:46And the coverage matchup for him this week, you have two receivers in Romeo Dobbs and Mack Hollins that are very good against too high.
17:54And so looking at the coverage matchup for Drake May, like, I'm at ECR right now.
17:59I've got him at QB 14. But, I mean, you tell me he's a QB 1 this week trying to keep pace with Josh Allen.
18:07I'm not hating that at all. You two and I are in a dynasty league together where I have Drake May and Justin Herbert as my two quarterbacks.
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18:19But with those two, a quarterback every weekend has been really painful.
18:23I see your quarterback situation and I'll show you mine.
18:26And mine's way worse than that league, by the way.
18:29Yeah. Losing Jackson Dart did me no favors. Yeah, I wasn't going to call you out for that.
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19:37All right, next game up, guys. Jets at Bears.
19:40Just an easy one here. Where are you guys ranking Braylon Allen as the Jets starting running back this week against the Bears?
19:47We expected Brees Hall to not play. That has been official.
19:50Now, made official. He's ruled out for this game.
19:53So where is Braylon Allen ranked for you, D-Bro?
19:56RB19. I just look at him as a volume-based RB2 with a good matchup in this one.
20:01And then, you know, I love the way that Braylon Allen's always categorized as like a big thumper.
20:07Like, dude, he doesn't run to his size. He hasn't since college.
20:10Like, he doesn't break a ton of tackles. This year he has zero explosive runs, 1.89 yards of contact per attempt.
20:17So, like, the per-touch efficiency I don't think is going to be amazing for Braylon Allen, however long he keeps this starter's
20:24chair for the Jets until Brees is back. But the matchup is awesome, man.
20:28Like, the Bears still can't stop the run. Ninth highest explosive run rate.
20:32Highest rushing success rate. So I think Braylon Allen's sniffing somewhere in like the 15 to 18 opportunities category.
20:38And if he gets into the end zone this week, he'll be probably a top 15 back just based on volume.
20:44He's RB21 in the half PPR consensus rankings here.
20:47Fitz, unlike my joke about you watching Jim Brown in college, you actually did watch a lot of Braylon Allen in college because he is a Wisconsin Badger.
20:56Or what are your thoughts on sort of his early career so far and what you expect to see out of him?
21:02So savage. Yeah, Debro nailed it. Like, Allen is the 235-pound back who sometimes thinks he's a 200-pound back and would rather elude guys than run over them.
21:11And it's funny, though. Every once in a while he'll remember how big he is and just bury some poor cornerback who's
21:18coming up to try to make a tackle on him.
21:21And that's always fun to watch. But, yeah, like, I'm a little lower than Debro.
21:26I'm an RB21. And I guess I have no beef with RB19.
21:29I think that could be spot on. The question is just how much are the Jets going to mix in Isaiah Davis?
21:36Because we had heard Aaron Glenn talk about this maybe being a three-headed backfield before this season.
21:41Isaiah Davis has only played special teams so far this season.
21:45No offensive snaps. Now that's going to change this week because they're going to need someone to occasionally relieve Braylon Allen.
21:51But how occasional? Because the matchup is good. I know the Bears haven't been quite the defensive pushover.
21:57People expected them to be in the Eagles offense.
22:00Made the Bears defense look very good last Monday night.
22:03But this is still not a very good Chicago defense.
22:06The Bears are 28th in DVOA against the run.
22:08They're giving up 4.8 yards per carry to running backs.
22:12Pretty good matchup for Braylon Allen. And maybe he does get like 20 touches.
22:16Entirely possible. Yeah. And in the fourth quarter, Fitzy, he played 72% of the snaps.
22:21I think you're going to see around like a 65-70% snap rate for Braylon Allen.
22:25And to your point, the only reason I have him at RB19 is more of like just the state of the running back position.
22:33Like, I don't know if Aaron Jones holds up another week with an 80% snap count.
22:37Bucky Irving, how much does he play? Amorian Hampton, game scripted out.
22:41David Montgomery dealing with Woody Marks. Like, I think Braylon Allen, I feel really good about his volume workload.
22:47That's the only reason I have him as high as I do and the matchup.
22:52It might be surprising to some. I mean, we remember how young he came into the league.
22:57Still only 22 years old, Braylon Allen. He's going to be 22 the entire season.
23:02He won't turn 23 until January. He was the youngest player at any position in his draft class.
23:07Yeah. Couldn't even drink. Couldn't even drink and, you know, getting NFL paychecks.
23:11I also find it surprising, I'm looking at his career stats right now, that he only has four rushing touchdowns in his
23:18career because I feel like it has happened more often that I want a Brees Hall touchdown and I look up and it's Braylon Allen.
23:26But I guess it hasn't actually happened that often.
23:28It's just in my head. I just remember the times it does happen, I guess.
23:33It's funny because he could play Derrick Henry in a movie, but he doesn't run like Derrick Henry.
23:39Yeah. No, no. Braylon Allen has always been a dancing bear going back to college where you're just like, bro, lower your shoulder.
23:46And he's like, but I can juke move. I can jump cut.
23:49And it's like, no, no, dude, you can't. Don't do that.
23:53Let's go to maybe the best game on the Sunday slate.
23:56Jags at Bengals. The total 51 and a half and a spread of just two and a half points.
24:02So a very fun game that we're expecting. So just have fun with this.
24:06Give me a final score prediction and a player of the game fits.
24:10I'll say Duvall pulls this one out in a nail biter.
24:1424 to 23. Comes down to the last possession.
24:17And player of the game. I'll say Trevor Lawrence.
24:19Like he's been pretty good. Hasn't thrown 30 passes in a game yet this season.
24:24So the fantasy stance are not like eye popping.
24:27But I think Liam Cohen gives Trevor the opportunity to let his hair down.
24:31So to speak in this game. Throws 35 or more times and has 300 plus yards and three TDs.
24:37That's my prediction. I feel like this game will tell us a lot about actually kind of both of these teams.
24:43But really the Jags is what I'm looking at.
24:46Because yes, they have a couple of blowout wins this season.
24:50It was against week one Deshaun Watson. And it was against a really struggling Drake May.
24:55And then they lost pretty handedly in Denver. Which is a tough place to play.
24:59I feel like we don't quite know just how good this Jags team can be yet.
25:04And playing at Cincy I think will give us a better idea of that.
25:08Debra, what do you expect out of this game?
25:11I was just waiting for you to make some kind of hair joke.
25:15I felt like I was going to catch a stray after Fitz said that.
25:20No, I got all my snarky jokes out of the way towards Fitz already.
25:24Yeah, yeah. Okay, all right, all right. Well, I'll wait for later in the show because I know it's coming.
25:30You're going to let me let my guard down.
25:33But dude, I think this game is going to be a shootout.
25:37I'm going to just go high watermark here. I think it's 31-28 and I am taking the Jacksonville Jaguars.
25:42I think that they win this game. And I'll go with the low-hanging fruit.
25:47For a team that hasn't been pushed to have a monster output on offense yet.
25:51Or at least kind of counterpunch and go back and forth with the team yet.
25:56I think we're going to see a blow-up game for Parker Washington.
26:00I think we're due for it. And the matchup also leans itself that way.
26:04Like we know DJ Turner is lurking on the outside.
26:07So Jacoby Myers, Brian Thomas Jr., Josh Cameron, good luck.
26:10Parker Washington versus Cincinnati in the slot. Cincinnati has quietly given up the seventh most yards per target and the seventh most
26:17fantasy points per opportunity to opposing slot receivers. Jalen Davis, their slot corner has not been good.
26:22He's quietly been terrible. Amongst 25 qualifying slot corners, he's given the 11th highest EPA per target up and the fourth highest step of separation.
26:30So I think this is where we finally see Parker Washington erupt with a 100-yard game and multiple scores.
26:36Yeah, that would be really fun. And I think very possible in this one.
26:40Gladstone, get that contract done, man. That price is only going up.
26:44Yeah. Where is Parker Washington ranked? I mean, obviously, everybody's starting him.
26:48But just out of curiosity, where is he ranked?
26:50Oh, I've got him aggressive. I mean, he's inside the top 10 in ECR.
26:55Wide receiver 7 right now. He's wide receiver 9 in ECR.
26:58Fitz, where is he for you? 10 for me.
27:01And I might have to come up. I hate being below ECR in Parker Washington.
27:05Yeah. It doesn't feel fun right now to be below on him.
27:09Let's go to Cowboys at Texans. This should be a matchup of strength on strength with the Cowboys offense facing the Texans defense, though.
27:17Houston hasn't really lived up to their end of the bargain so far this season with their defense.
27:22How do you see this game playing out? High scoring, back and forth affair, or more slower, lower scoring game fits?
27:29Can I go somewhere in the middle? Like, I know the Texans haven't been great defensively, but I have no doubt this
27:35is still one of the best defenses in the league.
27:39So it's strength against strength when the Cowboys have the ball.
27:42But it's kind of weakness against weakness when the Texans have the ball.
27:46The Houston offense might be slightly better than last year, but still isn't good.
27:50And the Dallas defense, it has the potential to be better than it was last season.
27:55But it's a really banged up unit right now, especially in the back end.
28:00Maybe Joey Porter suits up for the Cowboys this week.
28:03I don't know how many snaps he would play when he's just learning Christian Parker's system.
28:08You know, Nico Collins possibly back for the Texans, which would further stress that beaten up Dallas secondary.
28:13And, yeah, I want to see if George Pickens can get it going in this game.
28:18Pretty tough matchup. Maybe this isn't the weekend for Pickens to break out, but his investors, I know, are growing impatient.
28:25Where are you ranking Pickens, Fitz, before he tosses it to zero?
28:28Because he's wide receiver 15 in ECR. I'm right on.
28:31That's where I am. I'm on ECR. Okay. Yeah, it's been frustrating for me.
28:36His three finishes so far this season have been wide receiver 66, wide receiver 41, and wide receiver 27.
28:41Really, he hasn't had any touchdowns yet, which, you know, there's only so much you can do to overcome that with catches and yards.
28:49D-Bro, where are you at on this game? I've got the answers for all of this.
28:54George Pickens breakout week, baby. Okay. I'm calling it right now.
28:57I think he's going to have a monster game, and this all goes to the coverage stuff.
29:02And the reason George Pickens hasn't had a monster game, if you look at the coverage splits between him and CeeDee Lamb
29:09over the last few years, between single high and two high, CeeDee Lamb is a two high guy.
29:15Dallas has played a lot of two high teams thus far.
29:18George Pickens is going to erupt because the Houston Texans play single high at the third highest rate, 67% in the NFL.
29:25George Pickens this year versus single high, 54% target per route run rate, 3.54 yards per route run.
29:31If you combine this year and last year as well, people want a larger sample.
29:35George Pickens versus single high, 30% target per route run rate, 3.56 yards per route run.
29:40He eats it alive. You can even go back to Steelers splits, and George Pickens had it then too.
29:46So I think this is the Pickens game. I think this is going to be a high-scoring affair with the fact that
29:53Nico Collins is back in this game is massive for the Texans' ability to try to keep pace with the Cowboys in this game.
30:00If he wasn't in this game, then I would be much more of like, does this total need to come down just a little bit?
30:08But I think this is going to be a high-scoring affair.
30:11Who do you prefer, Debro, between Nico or Pickens, if you can only start one this week?
30:17They're both ranked inside the top 15. You prefer Pickens.
30:20It's quarterback play, man. I'm taking Dak or CJ Stroud.
30:23I'm taking Dak. I have Pickens one spot ahead of Nico.
30:26The one thing that worries me about the Cowboys, though, and Debro makes the good point about coverage, but we haven't seen
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33:51Okay, next game. Cardinals at Giants. Guys, Jeremiah Love had the best game of his young career last week against the Niners
33:57with 19.4 half PPR points and an RB7 finish.
34:00Where are you ranking him against the Giants? And also, where are you ranking him rest of season, Fitz?
34:06I'm at RB11 this week and RB11 rest of season.
34:09And I do realize those are pretty conservative rankings.
34:12The Giants were terrible against the run last year.
34:15I think they might be more of a neutral matchup this year.
34:18They were pretty good against Javante Williams in week one.
34:21Sort of got run over by the Rams in week two.
34:25But the Giants offense wasn't doing its part to keep the Rams offense off the field in that game.
34:31And then the Giants just stuffed the Titans running game last week.
34:34Although, that's really no great feat. So, the Giants, their run defense currently 10th in DVOA.
34:39I think that's falsely high. But last year, they were dead last.
34:43And they're better than that this year. And then RB11 for Jeremiah Love rest of season might be conservative.
34:49But the Cardinals really don't have any incentive to give Love 20 to 25 touches a week when they're still in sort
34:56of come up mode and not really contending for anything this year.
34:59Although, Michael LaFleur does seem to have the Kyle Shanahan gene where he just can't stop giving his lead guy that many.
35:06I mean, we saw Jeremiah Love get way too much work in his first preseason game.
35:11And plus, at some point, we might get a prolonged Carson Beck audition at quarterback late in the season, which might not be positive for the Arizona offense.
35:20Debra, where are you at on Love? By the way, just in terms of the consensus rankings, he's RB10 for this week, RB13 rest of season.
35:28So, Fitz, just behind consensus for this week, just ahead of consensus rest of season.
35:32I've got him at RB14 for this week and rest of season, but I have him at RB15.
35:38And I just want to give Fitz flowers to lead this off of what I'm going to discuss about Love.
35:44We kind of batted it back and forth last week about, like, why is Jeremiah Love?
35:49And I gave the Cardinals both barrels, and I was, like, so idiotic, blah, blah, blah, blah.
35:54Apparently, it was just the injury because he was a bell cow last week.
35:59So, shout out to Fitz, he's for being ahead of the curve on that one.
36:03I was behind. But, dude, I will be at consensus or above on Jeremiah Love, like, right now and rest of season.
36:10So, I need to come up on my ranking because, to Fitzy's point, I don't – I'm not scared of the Giants run defense, man.
36:18They've given up the seventh highest explosive run rate and the sixth highest rushing success rate.
36:23I think this is another game where Jeremiah Love has a really good outing, and he is the clear bell cow, apparently.
36:30So, while rest of season I do have concerns about the Cardinals' offense, the only thing where Fitz and I differ right
36:36now is, like, if they stay competitive, I think we see Brissette for the rest of the year, barring an injury.
36:43Like, I don't think Carson Beck is a long-term answer quarterback.
36:46Neither do I, but that schedule is brutal. Like, they can be a respectable team and still only win, like, four games this year.
36:54And I just feel like at some point there's no incentive not to give Carson Beck a couple of starts.
37:00You know what I mean? Just to see what sort of hand you're holding before next year's draft.
37:05Debra, did you say you want to be above consensus on Love for this week?
37:10Because he's RB10. Jalen Warren was RB9, so he's already played, obviously.
37:14And then it's, like, kind of the eight usual suspects ahead of him.
37:18Gibbs, Robinson, Walker, McCaffrey, Henry Taylor, Cook, and Gentty.
37:20So, I'm not sure how much higher you can really move from unless you want to knock down one of those bigger names.
37:28I mean, I would say I'm more concerned about Gentty and Spaggs trying to just take away the run and stuff because
37:34it's, like, the two pillars of the Raiders' offense.
37:37Okay, Bowers and Gentty, take those away. And what do you have left to beat us?
37:42So, I'm probably going to drop Gentty. And I'll, you know, I'll kind of sift through the rest of this and stuff.
37:49But I do think Love has a massive game this week.
37:52Okay. Let's go to Rams at Eagles. The Eagles looked bad against the Bears' defense that we all expected to be one
37:59of the worst in football this season. On a scale from 1 to 10, what is your panic level on Philly right now?
38:06Can they bounce back against a good Rams team, Debro?
38:096.5? That's about where I'm at. Like, and I'm more worried about the defense than I am about the offense.
38:15Like, and I know that sounds, like, kind of strange.
38:19But I think Jalen Hurts learning this new playbook and all the parts and pieces in between, I think that we're going
38:25to see a better improved offense as we move through the season as opposed to what we're seeing right now.
38:31But on the other side of it, like Philly, outside of Tariq, Wolin, and Quinion on the outside, what are they doing well?
38:39Like, the run defense has improved some. The middle of the field, they're not defending it well.
38:44Cooper Dejean is playing some really rough football right now.
38:47And they don't have a pass rush. So I'm more worried about, like, this vaunted Eagles defense that we were expecting coming
38:54into the season that has a crap ton of talent hasn't really played up to the bar yet.
38:59Fitz? I'm in a seven. I'm glad Debro pointed out the fact that maybe we should give the Eagles a little bit
39:06of grace early in the season because they are, like, the offensive MO is just changing.
39:11It's not just different play calling. It's, like, trying to have Jalen Hurts play under center more.
39:16That's a change. It's probably going to take some time to take hold.
39:20The part that worries me is that, like, the Eagles offensive line is just, they used to have one of the best
39:27offensive lines, if not the best offensive line in the league.
39:30I don't even know if it's average right now.
39:33Like, so far this year, it's been below average.
39:36The Eagles ranked 24th in the run-blocking metric adjusted line yards.
39:39And they are 26th in the pass-blocking metric adjusted sack rate.
39:43And I know they are putting in a new scheme, too, moving on from their old offensive line coach, Jeff Stoutland.
39:49And supposedly, like, it's an easier scheme for them to digest.
39:53There's less for the offensive lineman to read pre-snap.
39:55But, man, so far the performance has just been pretty disappointing.
39:59And maybe no Devontae Smith this week. I know he wasn't practicing as of Thursday.
40:03So, boy, going up against a good Rams defense.
40:06Might have to ratchet up the panic meter just a little higher after this game.
40:11And to your point, Fitzy, like, no Smith this week.
40:14No Dallas Goddard still out. Missing some of your most talented players.
40:18Also, Makai Lemon not being there for preseason in training camp.
40:21And you could see it in the data. The Eagles are still kind of struggling.
40:26Like, how do we best utilize this player? So, they're trying to figure it out real time of, like, how do we deploy this guy?
40:33It's a lot of moving around chess pieces around the board for the Eagles right now.
40:38Yeah. So, you guys were a 6.5 and a 7.
40:41When I put together this question, I was thinking about a 6 for myself.
40:46So, we're all kind of in the same range here.
40:49And, I mean, it's really, like, this isn't meant to be a knock on Jalen Hurts.
40:54It's just when you think about the strength of the Eagles team as they've been so good the last few years.
41:00It's the offensive line and the defense. The defense has not lived up to expectations.
41:05And the offensive line, like you said, Fitz, has been not right bad.
41:09And so, if those are sort of the pillars of your organization and they're not performing, I think it's fair to have
41:16some level of maybe panic's too strong a word, but concern, certainly.
41:19Just quickly before we move off this game, where are you guys ranking Dontavian Wicks with all the other players out?
41:26And I don't think that – I think Devontae Smith has all been pretty much ruled out for winning or for playing this game.
41:33Yeah, it seems pretty unlikely plays. I – Dontavian Wicks.
41:36By the way, Devontae Smith in our Are They Playing Tool 15% chance.
41:40And I think that'll go down today. Like, I bet he gets ruled out today.
41:45Dontavian Wicks, I'm probably – he's going to be in the wide receiver three category for me.
41:50Like, I'm going to have him swimming somewhere in the same pool of, like, Stefan Diggs, Emeka Ibuka, J-Mo, somewhere around there.
41:57So, somewhere in, like, the wide receiver 28-20 – wide receiver 28-30 kind of category.
42:02He's wide receiver 39 right now, so you're going to be well ahead.
42:06But I think he could be a wide receiver two this week based off a target volume.
42:11Like, who else is catching the freaking ball? I've got him 39, and I will not come up.
42:17Like, ECR is going to come up on him when Devontae Smith is scratched.
42:21I'm not coming up. That's as high as I can go with this offense looking the way it has.
42:27Okay. Okay. Packers at Buccaneers next game up. Tampa Bay is without Baker Mayfield, of course, but the Packers have also been a train wreck this season.
42:35Sorry, Fitz. How interested are you in starting Emeka Ibuka this week, Pat?
42:39Because, I mean, again, it seems like it's the opposite of an unstoppable force meeting a movable object.
42:45This is a stoppable force meeting a very movable object.
42:48In fairness, the Packers' defense was pretty good against the Vikings in week one up until the very end, and against the
42:55Jets in week two, then fell apart against the Falcons.
42:58No question. I've got Ibuka wide receiver 34, and I do kind of regret having ranked him one spot ahead of Denzel Boston.
43:05Man, like the chances with Jalen Daniels, and how weird is it that the first quarterback from the class of 2026 to
43:11make a start is the undrafted rookie free agent.
43:14That's pretty wild. Yeah. Sooner than Fernando Mendoza, the number one pick in the draft.
43:19Yeah, that is crazy. So I've got Ibuka wide receiver 34.
43:22I don't think there's a great chance of him getting five or more catches.
43:27It's all about whether he can make a big play or two.
43:30You are exactly aligned with consensus. He is wide receiver 34 in ECR.
43:34Debra, where are you at? I'm a little bit higher.
43:37I've got him at wide receiver 30, and this is only because Ibuka has been playing way better football than his stat
43:44lines and his fantasy points per game suggest. Like right now amongst 86 qualifying wide receivers, he's 19th in separation, 15th in route win rate.
43:52The problem with Ibuka is a Baker Mayfield problem.
43:55He has the 12th lowest amongst 88 qualifying wide receivers, the 12th lowest catchable target rate.
44:00So I look at Jalen Daniels starting, and I'm like, okay, he might not be amazing, but I don't know if he
44:06can give Ibuka less catchable targets than Baker Mayfield's been doing.
44:10So honestly, he might be an improvement this week.
44:13He might. Emeka Ibuka might see more catchable targets, and if that's the case, to Fitz's point, like, yeah, the Packers have
44:19been in a roller coaster for a defense. They're allowing the 12th most yards per target and the six most fantasy points per opportunity to perimeter wide receivers.
44:28This could quietly be a really good game for Emeka Ibuka.
44:31But again, like this is assuming at least league average quarterback play for Jalen Daniels, and that might be an assumption way too far that I'm making.
44:40So for you, D-Bro, I know the answer for Fitz, Ibuka or Dontavian Wicks?
44:44Who would you rather start? Oh, Ibuka. Okay. Because you said he's about, you know, given where he's ranked, it's similar to
44:51where you said you were probably going to bump Wicks up too.
44:55But you'd rather have Ibuka? Yeah, I've got him right above Wicks right now.
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45:27Let's get to the late afternoon slate here, guys.
45:30Dolphins at Vikings. Ollie Gordon was the big waiver pickup of the week with Devon Achan out for the season.
45:36Now the Dolphins have to face an angry Brian Flores defense.
45:39Where is Gordon ranked for you this week, D-Bro?
45:42Right now he is RB36, and wherever ECR is come Sunday morning, I want to make sure I'm below it because I
45:49feel like we're going to get rug pulled with Ollie Gordon, or it's the least possible right now.
45:54He was the big waiver wire pickup because everybody's like, oh, he got all the work and stuff and blah, blah, blah.
46:01He's going to be the starter. Jalen Wright was out, and he has been the RB2 on the step chart.
46:07This week, Jalen Wright, who was out of that game with a foot injury and a stinger, had a limited practice to
46:14open the week and had a full practice. So I think that we're going to see Jalen Wright.
46:20He might be the starter for the Miami Dolphins this week, or at least at bare minimum, if he is active, splitting work with Ollie Gordon this week.
46:28Because if you look just throughout the entirety of the season, I know we've only gotten seven offensive snaps for Jalen Wright,
46:35but Ollie Gordon didn't get any offensive snaps. Excuse me, he got four offensive snaps in week one, and he basically hasn't
46:42done anything, and he's been behind Wright the entire time on this depth chart.
46:46And oh, by the way, Ollie Gordon hasn't been good since 2025.
46:50He has 1.84 yards of contact per attempt and an 8% missed tackle rate.
46:54So I think this could be a rug pull situation.
46:57I don't want to start Ollie Gordon. Fitz? I don't know if I agree that Jalen Wright has always been the number two behind Devon H.
47:05And it seems like the Dolphins have kind of oscillated on that since 2025 when they drafted Ollie.
47:11But, like, it could be right. I feel like the Dolphins don't know whether they like Jalen Wright or dislike Jalen Wright.
47:18And, like, Gordon hasn't been good, but I don't think Jalen Wright's been particularly good either.
47:22Um, so I agree, though. It's a very ambiguous situation.
47:26Right now I've got Ollie Gordon RB34 and Wright RB42.
47:29And I have no idea if that's right. And I really don't want to play either against the Brian Flores defense.
47:35I mean, the Vikings have allowed, I think, the sixth fewest rushing yards.
47:39Um, and they're going to be... We've talked about the revenge narrative with, uh, Brian Flores going against the team that fired him.
47:46Oh, and not only did they fire him after three years as their head coach, They fired him and were later found
47:53to have been talking to Sean Payton about the head coaching job before they had fired Brian Flores.
47:59So, yes, Brian Flores is going to be dialing up everything and probably pulling everything out of his bag this week against
48:05the poor, undermanned Miami Dolphins who don't have Devon A.
48:08There is a morbid curiosity in watching this defense going up against the Dolphins offense.
48:13I mean, how many times in NFL history do we have a coach who is suing the other team, who is already
48:20one of the blitz-heaviest coaches in the NFL, going up against a woefully undermanned offense?
48:25Like, it is going to be a sight to watch, honestly.
48:28I think the implied Vegas total for Miami is 13 points, and that seems wildly aspirational.
48:33I'll take the under, yeah. Are you guys interested in starting Malik Washington just in the idea, like a PPR league, and
48:40the idea he might get a lot of empty calorie catches?
48:43Erickson brought this up that if you're going to blitz, I mean, that might mean Malik Willis going to his hot route
48:50guy a lot of the time, which is probably going to be Malik Washington.
48:54But that might mean a stat line like six for 53.
48:58So I do have him sort of like, I think, high-end wide receiver four, low-end wide receiver three, somewhere in there.
49:04Playable, but maybe in PPR, not really in like standard or half PPR.
49:08Would I be that interested? He's back-to-back in ECR with Dontavian Wicks, actually.
49:12They're in that kind of late 30s ranking range.
49:15Since we're going down the Malik Washington rabbit hole, can I give a little bit of shine to Chris Bell?
49:21Because if I'm going for a flex play out of one of these guys out of this past catching core, I'm firmly Chris Bell over Malik Washington.
49:29Like Malik Washington's been getting all these empty PPR calories and this high target share.
49:34Again, we have to monitor the news and stuff, and a lot of this comes down to like the health of Chris Bell's knee.
49:41He had a 64% route share and a 19% target share last week.
49:45I think if his knee complies, we could be living in a world where the route share goes up yet again this
49:52week, and maybe he takes the 20% plus target share this week away from Malik Washington, and he's a decent flex play.
49:59Because while Minnesota's been awesome on a defense, and they've been insane, they're also giving up the 11th most yards per target
50:06and the 10th most fantasy points per opportunity to perimeter wide receivers.
50:10So there is hope for Chris Bell. A lot of that was against the Packers where they were sending the house at Jordan Love.
50:17Love would manage to complete throws to Christian Watson and Matthew Golden, and there were only like three guys in the defensive
50:24backfield to try to tackle those dudes. So there were some huge plays in that week one game for the Packers.
50:30I think that's kind of like skewing that stat.
50:33I just, I would much rather have the short, and generally I agree, like Chris Bell would be the guy I'd probably
50:40want in season long more than Malik Washington, just because Washington, we know the upside isn't really much of anything.
50:46But against the Vikings, like I want the short area receiver, not the downfield guy.
50:51Well, the point about Chris Bell, a lot of crossers and stuff where he's just been asked to run away from guys.
50:57So, yeah. Next game, Chiefs at Raiders. A surprisingly fun one.
51:01It's a 3-0 record for the Raiders. They're one of the early contenders for surprise stories of the year.
51:07They now get their toughest matchup yet so far in the also undefeated Chiefs.
51:11It felt to me when I was putting together the show sheet that most players in this game are either pretty obvious starts or pretty obvious sits.
51:19So I just wanted to keep it simple. Go ahead and pick this game against the spread.
51:25Chiefs minus 4.5 and the total 47.5. Fitz, I'll start with you.
51:28I'm going to take the Raiders and the under.
51:31Like, I think they make this a game. And one of the reasons, like, Max Crosby has been playing so insanely well, the whole Raiders defense, really.
51:39And, like, as well as the Chiefs have been playing, they are starting an undrafted rookie free agent at left tackle.
51:46And their right tackle is not especially good. And I think that could be a problem on the edges this week against the Raiders.
51:53Debra? Debra? I agree with Fitzy on the under.
51:56I'm taking the Chiefs, and I think they cover in this one.
52:00And this isn't, like, Raiders hate and stuff like that.
52:03But this is just going back, again, to the spags of it all.
52:07I think spags, like, for a defensive coordinator that prides himself on, like, literally it's, I'm going to take away your best player.
52:14I'm going to do that. The Raiders have two pillars of this is their entire freaking offense, is Brock Bowers and Ashton Gentey.
52:21So I'm not saying you can eliminate either one of those players fully from the game plan, but can you throw enough
52:28potholes on the road to where it makes it very difficult?
52:31Yes. And it's not like Kirk Cousins isn't a limited quarterback.
52:35So I think the Chiefs can cover. I think that this is probably an uglier game than a lot of people expect.
52:41And to the Max Crosby of it all, I think he's going to be in the backfield religiously, staring down at Mahomes as he sacks him this week.
52:50So, Debra, are you, like, fading Brock Bowers in the rankings in anticipation of this?
52:55I mean, there's only so far you can knock him down.
52:58I mean, there's only so far you can fade him.
53:01So, I mean, like, if you got him, you're starting him.
53:05But, like, he's going to get target volume. The question is, you know, how successful is he with that target volume?
53:11Yeah. I mean, nobody has to make this decision.
53:14But, like, would you rank him behind Trey McBride for this week?
53:18Or are you? I mean, I got him behind Trey McBride.
53:21But, I mean, you're talking about the top. Yeah.
53:24I mean, again, it's not really, like, an actionable bit of advice.
53:27I was just curious kind of where he falls for you.
53:31Okay. Let's go to the next game here. Chargers at Seahawks.
53:34Janarian Price fumbled in week three against the Commanders and never really had the chance to get going after that.
53:40Are you willing to start him against a struggling Chargers team?
53:44He's ranked RB30 in ECR for the week. He has not finished that high in any game this season.
53:50He's been RB35, RB42, and RB70 in his first career games in the NFL.
53:54So is that RB30 ranking too high, Debro? Hell yes.
53:57I'm not playing anybody from the Seattle backfield. Because the work has been split up three freaking different ways.
54:03And Janarian Price has put the ball on the ground two times in the last two games and found the doghouse.
54:09I don't want to play anybody from the Seahawks backfield at all.
54:13Because I don't know where the freaking ball is going.
54:16Hold on. Let me ask you guys this. So Janarian Price missed practice Thursday with a chest injury.
54:22And I know he's been questionable with the chest injury.
54:25Wonded up playing through it. I don't know if it was like exacerbated or whatever.
54:29Or if it's just maybe he really is in fumble jail now.
54:33Because that was his second straight week with a fumble.
54:36So if Janarian Price is inactive for this game, would you be willing to start Emmanuel Wilson against the Chargers?
54:42That I would do. Because also to your point, Fitzy, George Helani is on the injury report.
54:48So is he kind of dinged up? If we get that type of clarity, then yes, you can interest me in Emmanuel Wilson.
54:55Because also, trust of the coaching staff. He did have the high volume week.
54:59And so proving trust. If we get more clarity, then yes, I will be in on Emmanuel Wilson.
55:05But if Price is active and Helani is active, no.
55:08So say we get no Janarian Price, how would you rank these three guys?
55:12Emmanuel Wilson, J.K. Dobbins, Alvin Kamara. Emmanuel Wilson over both of those guys.
55:16And then probably Kamara ahead of Dobbins. Because Dobbins is going to get his early down work.
55:21But he gets no passing game work. And if he has no touchdown, then you're hating life.
55:27I think I'm with you. I think I'm with you there.
55:30I think I'd rather start Dobbins than Kamara. I know that's not the main part of the question, which is the Seahawks side.
55:37Just on the chance that he gets a touchdown, it feels more likely to me.
55:42But if he doesn't get that touchdown, you're getting five points and nothing.
55:46Yeah, but what are you getting from Kamara? He's been bad.
55:49But the 49ers, they're pretty beaten up up front.
55:52So maybe this is like there's a ray of hope for Dobbins.
55:56Those guys are all back-to-back-to-back in consensus, by the way.
55:59Dobbins, Kamara, and Price. Obviously, the stand-in for your example is Wilson.
56:02But those guys are back-to-back-to-back in ECR right now.
56:05Price did actually move down to RB31. Are they playing tool on fantasypros.com gives them like a 50-50 chance of playing with the limited practice Wednesday.
56:13Let's see what he does on Friday. Yeah, so that's something to keep an eye on for sure.
56:19But to your point, though, like Fitzy, like if Price is out of this game, yeah.
56:24Emmanuel Wilson, he could get 20 opportunities in this game.
56:27Like that would be insane to see. We've seen it before already this year.
56:31And he's getting the goal line work for sure.
56:34Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go to the next game here.
56:37Speaking of the Broncos, Broncos at 49ers. Jalen Waddell has either had a really big game or done absolutely nothing with no
56:44middle ground through his first three games. With Denver, is this week more likely to be another stud performance or another dud, Debro?
56:51Well, let's talk about the real of it. He's done nothing in two of those three games because Bo Nix has been
56:58awful in all three of those games. So he's gotten high-end alpha target shares in two of those games outside of the
57:04week one wet fart that Davis Webb had. So I think Jalen Waddell has a fantastic game in this one.
57:11And this all just goes to I don't believe the 49ers can cover the slot.
57:15They've given up the third most yards per target, fourth most fantasy points per opportunity to slot receivers.
57:21You look at the coverage matchup. San Francisco's got single high at the eighth highest rate against single high since week two
57:28when Denver, you know, Sean Payton had to tap Davis Webb on the shoulder and say, hey, you remember we got Jalen Waddell, right?
57:35Since week two, Jalen Waddell's had a 40% target per route run rate versus single high.
57:40So I think this is a good game for Jalen Waddell, assuming Bo Nix can get targets somewhere in the vicinity of Jalen Waddell.
57:47Fitz, wide receiver 19, too high, too low, just right?
57:50What are you expecting? I'm at wide receiver 24.
57:53I just I don't like what I've seen out of Nick so far.
57:57And I worry that like wild inconsistency is going to be the new normal for Jalen Waddell.
58:03It gets concerning that I feel less good about Jalen Waddell every week than I did when he was playing with Tua Tunga-Vailoa.
58:10You know, it's just man, we thought he was going to be this great new toy for the Broncos.
58:15And it's just been week two. It was great.
58:18I don't know. It's too early. Maybe I'm just being too much of a wet blanket on this, but I know I'm
58:25a little concerned about what I've seen from the Denver offense.
58:28I've got him at wide receiver 19 to Fitzy and that that more of well, I'll probably have to bump him up
58:35a little bit because I still have Devonta Smith in the ranks.
58:39So Waddell goes up to wide receiver 18 or 17, depending also about what we see from Jalen Coker, if he plays or not and stuff.
58:47So like, I'm not far apart with you in the ranks, and I absolutely agree with you.
58:52Bo Nix has looked terrible this year. So he's the guys I have him behind right now.
58:57The four guys I have in front of Jalen Waddell are Josh Downs, Michael Wilson, Mike Evans, Jamison Williams.
59:03And I really like the situations and the matchups for Downs, Wilson and Jamison Williams.
59:08And Evans is just going there out of respect.
59:11Are those names deeper than when you hear them like that you would strongly disagree with any of those or?
59:17No, I mean, I don't necessarily disagree with any of those names like the guys right ahead.
59:22Jalen Waddell in my rankings right now. I've got Ted O'Mcmillan ahead of him.
59:26I got DJ Moore, T Higgins. Like, I think we're living in the same area code, Fitzy and I.
59:32And could I see a big game for Michael Wilson this week?
59:36Absolutely, because I'm not scared of the Chinese corners at all.
59:39Any 12-team league, I think you're starting Jalen Waddell in a 10.
59:43Yeah, you're starting him. In a 10-teamer, you might be making flex decisions between, you know, Jalen Waddell and Bucky Irving or something.
59:50Yeah, or Jalen Waddell and DJ Moore or something like that.
59:54Let's go to Sunday Night Football. Lions at Panthers.
59:56I keep talking about this in all the shows this week.
60:00I cannot remember the last time the Panthers hosted a Sunday Night Football game.
60:04So this is going to be kind of fun to see.
60:08These two defenses, it's also going to be fun because I think we're going to see a lot of points.
60:14The consensus total reflects that sort of attitude at 50 and a half.
60:18Last I looked, is there anybody in this game that you guys want to actually be fading relative to consensus since there's
60:25so many expectations for high scoring, Debro? No, I'm not fading anybody.
60:28I think the one interesting player in Fitzy kind of brought his name up a second ago that I want to bring
60:35up in this because considering the start of the season, a lot of people are probably going to fade him as Jameson Williams, but JC Horn, IR.
60:43Mike Jackson, IR. Carolina has no corners. Also, Detroit has not been using Jameson Williams versus single high this year.
60:50He has an 11% target per route run rate.
60:52Carolina runs single high at the fifth highest rate.
60:55I think we see a bounce back game from JMO because Carolina, no healthy starting corners.
61:00Also, JMO last year against single high bread and butter.
61:03Can't talk bread and butter. Apparently, like, I mean, dude, single high last year for JMO, 22% target per route run rate, 2.31 yards per route run.
61:11So I think this is a big bounce back game for JMO.
61:15That's and I think the fantasy points data suite mentioned that.
61:19Well, they've got JMO still top 20, I believe, in expected fantasy points, even though he's like wide receiver 55 and half point PPR scoring.
61:26There is no one I am seriously fading here.
61:29I'm one spot below consensus on Bryce Young, who has been great.
61:33He's averaging 313 passing yards a game. He's thrown seven TD passes.
61:36He's QB six in fantasy scoring right now. And the Lions have given up 979 passing yards and nine touchdown passes.
61:43They've given up the most fantasy points to quarterbacks.
61:46But there are some concerns with the Panthers' offensive line, which really struggled against the Browns' pass rush last week.
61:52Guard Damian Lewis is out with an elbow injury.
61:55That's kind of a key injury. And rookie right tackle Monroe Freeling has a concussion, so he probably won't play.
62:01Okay. That's what worries me about potentially short-circuiting Bryce Young.
62:04So I'm ranking Young as, you know, a low in QB1.
62:07I think he's, what, QB9 in consensus rankings. I'm like, is he that high?
62:12Yeah, I think so. He's either 9 or 10, and I'm one spot lower on him than consensus.
62:17He's currently 10. All right. I'm at 11. Yeah.
62:20Okay. I've got Bryce Young in QB12. I share Fitz's concern and also add, what if Jalen Coker doesn't play this week?
62:27So there are some concerns about Bryce Young. Like, Fitzy, straight up right now.
62:31Bryce Young or Jordan Love, who you got? I do have, I think I've got Bryce Young like one spot higher.
62:38Same. But if Coker gets ruled out, I'm moving Jordan Love above him.
62:42Actually, I've got him two spots higher. Matthew Stafford or Bryce Young?
62:45Fitzy. Young. What about Young or Hurts? Because Hurts is behind him in consensus.
62:50Over Hurts? Yeah. Okay. Like, Hurts, the rushing production has not been great, and I feel like he is not comfortable playing
62:56under center as much as he has been. Okay.
62:59Before we get to the next game, I need to get your guys' prop bet cheat sheet picks for Sunday Night Football.
63:06We do this every week. Fitz, I'll start with you.
63:09What's your favorite bet from the prop bet cheat sheet this week for this game?
63:14It's a three-star bet. Darren Waller going over two and a half receptions.
63:18We've got him projected for 3.1. And Detroit has been getting clubbed by tight ends this year.
63:23They've given up, I mean, tons of receptions, tons of yardage, and they have given up touchdown catches to six different tight
63:30ends, including the likes of Jeremy Ruckert and Dawson Knox.
63:33So, yeah, Darren Waller over two and a half receptions this week.
63:37Really, Debra? I should have gone to you first because you guys are hand-holding on this, and you did get to the
63:43sheet first and say that you also like Darren Waller.
63:46We can dance down the same golden path here.
63:49I'm totally with it with Fitzy. Like, yeah, Darren Waller over 26 and a half receiving yards, three-star bet, and we got a projected for 29 receiving yards.
63:58I think that projection is also going to go up depending on what happens with Jalen Coker if he's in or he's
64:05out, so you need to head and go bet the overs for both these immediately.
64:09As well as, like Fitzy's talking about, Detroit. You could go bet the anytime touchdown for Darren Waller, too.
64:15Just all the Darren Waller bets this week because Detroit has given up the most receiving touchdowns to opposing tight ends and
64:22the six most yards per target to the position.
64:25So, yes, Darren Waller. He might not be a rap god, but he's going to be very good in fantasy this week.
64:32Those are our top prop bets for Sunday Night Football, courtesy of the Betting Pro's Prop Bet Sheet Sheet.
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64:42Quickly compare lines from leading sportsbooks against our daily NFL projections to uncover the props offering the most value.
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64:52All right, guys, Monday Night Football, fun game, Falcons at Saints.
64:55I'm really looking forward to this one. A couple of great receivers in this game, especially with Chris Alave and Drake London,
65:02both ranked inside the top six at the position this week in ECR.
65:06Let me get an update to see exactly where they are.
65:09Alave wide receiver for London is wide receiver six.
65:12Who do you guys like better in this one?
65:15Debra, I'll start with you. Alave. I'm just taking the better quarterback.
65:19Alave is, dude, just set your watch by him.
65:22He's freaking good to share. Yeah, I'm going Alave.
65:24I think that's fair. I also do think that Michael Penix will throw the ball maybe a billion times to Drake London in every game they play.
65:33You're not wrong. What do you think, Fitz? Who do you like better?
65:37So I've got Alave at wide receiver four, London at wide receiver five.
65:41The Falcons defense has been an extreme pass funnel this season.
65:44Opponents have thrown on the Falcons on 72.2% of their offensive snaps.
65:48No other defense has had opponents thrown them more than 68% of the time.
65:52Atlanta has faced an average of 43.3 pass attempts per game.
65:55The Falcons enter week four having given up a league-high 604 receiving yards to wide receivers.
66:00And Chris Alave already leads the NFL in targets with 36.
66:04And now he's going up against this extreme pass funnel defense.
66:07Oh, and by the way, the Falcons' best cover man, A.J.
66:11Terrell, on injured reserve. So I've got to go Alave here.
66:14But as for London, he has now played 13 career games with Michael Penix Jr.
66:19In those 13 games, mind you, well under a full season worth of football, 91 catches, 1,356 yards, and eight touchdowns.
66:25You can find stats like that with or without them tool at fantasypros.com where you can see the splits with different players
66:32in the field and what does Drake London do when Michael Penix is playing, stuff like that.
66:37You can see more cool stats like Fitz's drop there.
66:40Who do you guys like to win this game, by the way?
66:44I just think this is a really fun Monday night game, despite it being two one-and-two teams.
66:49The spread's two and a half. Saints at home are favored.
66:53I like the over 47 and a half. What do you guys make of this one, Fitz?
66:58I think the Saints are the class of the NFC South.
67:01And plus, this is going to be kind of an emotional night for them.
67:06I think it's the 20-year anniversary of them coming back and playing in the Superdome after Katrina.
67:11Good call. Yes. D, bro? Yeah. I'm taking the Saints.
67:14Shout out to Steve Gleason. I think the Saints are going to be highly motivated.
67:19It's going to be an emotional game. I think they're going to put up a crap ton of points.
67:24All right. We'll go ahead and wrap things up there.
67:27Thanks, everybody, for checking out our Week 4 Key Questions.
67:31Best of luck setting your lineups this weekend. For D-Bro and Fitz, I'm Ryan Warmly.
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