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The Insiders Podcast: Fernando Mendoza Expectations, Cowboys Updates, and 1st Round Fantasy Picks

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43 min
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Jul 9, 2026
Published
Thu, July 9, 2026
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Christian McCaffreyFernando MendozaTravis HunterA.J. BrownAmon-Ra St. BrownAshton JeantyBijan RobinsonBryce YoungCeeDee LambChase BrownDak PrescottGeorge PickensJa'Marr ChaseJames Cook
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A.J. Brown

PositiveProjection33:49

Brown was recommended as a top-five to seven pick last year, which didn't work out, but the source isn't blaming AJ. He could still play at a very high level. Drake Maye was the best deep-ball thrower in football statistically last year, and this system is going to get the most out of him more than what the Eagles were doing last year. There's less target competition than he had the last few years in Philadelphia, so a big bounce-back year is expected.

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Amon-Ra St. Brown

PositiveProjection24:32

St. Brown is ranked 5th overall. Metrically he is fantastic as the focal point of a high-powered passing attack with tons of scoring opportunities. He's been a top-four wide receiver in total points and points per game in each of the last three years and is consistent week-to-week, with 11 games last year with 15+ fantasy points, the third most amongst all wide receivers.

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Ashton Jeanty

PositiveProjection30:33

Jeanty is ranked 11th overall. Some people say he was disappointing last year, but the source thinks he was a lot better than people realize. His stats are eye-popping and he's top-five in basically all metrics. What held him back was the situation, but things are better now. The Broncos improved their offensive line in a big way, quarterback play could be better, and Clint Kubiak, who won the Super Bowl with the Seahawks last year, is now calling the plays. The source is very excited for what Jeanty could do in year two.

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Bijan Robinson

PositiveProjection22:09

Robinson is the 1B to Gibbs' 1A, with both running backs expected to be neck and neck in fantasy points every year. Robinson was the only player with at least 360 touches in each of the last two seasons; with Tyler Algier gone, he could reach new heights after previously splitting goal-line looks. He's explosive, a great receiver, and can handle a ton of work.

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Bryce Young

PositiveProjection35:53

Young is positioned for growth in year two with Brad Izzik as the new play-caller and Dave Canales in a CEO role. Izzik's specialty is wide receivers and his connection with Young has been really cool to see. Izzik challenged Young to be more vocal with the team and use his leadership, and Young responded by showing a different version of himself to players. The Panthers created a basketball team of 6'3 or taller receivers for Young, which should help unleash the offense in a new way.

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CeeDee Lamb

PositiveProjection28:30

Lamb is ranked 9th overall. He was a fantasy wide receiver 1 in points per game for four straight seasons tied to a great offense and great play-calling. The Cowboys brought back largely the same roster as last season, so Lamb is expected to continue to eat. When he and Dak Prescott are both healthy, he operates out of the slot where a 5'10 cornerback will have a hard time stopping him. Dak has finished as the Cowboys' leading passer in nine seasons, with top-10 scoring offenses in two of those and the number-one scoring offense in one.

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Chase Brown

PositiveSleeper33:24

Brown is one of 15 first-round caliber players but only 12 can fit in the first round. The source thinks he's highly underrated. He was better last year than he was in 2024, yet there's less hype around him coming into this season. Once Joe Flacco and Joe Burrow played from week five-six on last year, he was the fifth-best running back in fantasy. He's a dual-threat guy who sees goal-line work.

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Christian McCaffrey

NegativeProjection28:48

McCaffrey is ranked 10th overall. While his ceiling is being the best player in fantasy, the source has significant concerns about drafting him this year. Last year he had the fewest rushing yards over expectations of all running backs and had 450 touches. Every running back since 2010 who had that many touches in a season saw their yards decrease by at least 38% the following year. McCaffrey had over 400 touches once in his career; the following two years he played 10 games combined. The risk is higher with someone at his age coming off that many touches.

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NegativeRole41:24

Christian McCaffrey was observed working with trainer Ido Portal on movement culture and mobility training, suggesting ongoing focus on physical conditioning and shoulder mobility as part of his training regimen.

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Dak Prescott

NegativeRole10:45

The Cowboys are being deliberate about having Prescott run the offense from under center more frequently, which will enable him to make certain throws to running backs and wide receivers. This represents a tactical emphasis for the 2026 season.

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Fernando Mendoza

PositiveProjection0:26

The source expresses high confidence in Mendoza's rookie and long-term NFL career prospects, citing his willingness to learn from elite coaching staff (Clint Kubiak, Andrew Ginoco, Mike Sullivan) and his detailed, methodical approach to setting and exceeding performance milestones. The source does not expect him to start week one—Kirk Cousins is projected as the starter—but expects Mendoza to be ready and play well when he enters the game.

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NegativeRole0:26

Mendoza will report to Raiders training camp on July 23rd (earlier than the rest of the roster on July 28th) and is learning from Kirk Cousins in the quarterback room. Cousins' preparation methods—staying after hours until 7 p.m. studying, meticulous note-taking, and information processing—are serving as a model for Mendoza's own development process.

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George Pickens

PositiveRole11:00

The Cowboys plan to use Pickens in the slot more frequently in 2026. Last season he was in the slot on only about 10% of plays, so this represents a significant role expansion that the source identifies as 'going to be real interesting to watch.'

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Ja'Marr Chase

PositiveProjection22:42

Chase is the wide receiver 1 in a 1A/1B situation with Puka Nakua. He's been a top-three wide receiver each of the last two years with probably the highest weekly ceiling of any wide receiver. With the same offensive coordinator and quarterback, and the last time both played a full season Chase won the triple crown and was the runaway best player in fantasy. He's been more available than other top receivers, which is a huge asset for fantasy.

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James Cook

PositiveProjection31:40

Cook is ranked 12th overall. The Bills paid him before the season last year, which led to him having career highs in carries, rushing yards, and fantasy points. He's had 32 touchdowns in the last two seasons. The talk right now is that there could be even more involvement for him in the passing game. If that happens, his upside is top-five or even higher at the running back position.

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Jaxon Smith-Njigba

NegativeProjection25:00

JSN is ranked 6th overall. What he did last year was amazing and he was off-the-charts efficient with the highest percentage of a team's receiving yards by any player in the last 12 seasons. However, the Seahawks were tied with Baltimore for the lowest pass rate in the league last year with no Clint Kubiak, which is enough concern to push Amon-Ra St. Brown just ahead of him, though 6th overall is still a strong ranking.

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Jonathan Taylor

PositiveProjection26:00

Taylor is ranked 7th overall. At one point last season it looked like if you didn't have Jonathan Taylor on your team, you weren't going to win a championship, but that was before Daniel Jones got hurt. Good news: he's going to be healthy this year. Last year with Daniel Jones, Taylor averaged 24 fantasy points per game, which fell to 13 after Jones was hurt. He also led all running backs with five 30-point fantasy games. He's going to get all the goal-line work and is one of the safest running back picks with a very high ceiling.

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Josh Allen

NegativeProjection15:15

Allen reports that he is constantly thinking about football and how to improve, even during the offseason. He is excited to return to training camp on July 28th and get things in full swing. As a new father, he is prioritizing sleep and recovery, aiming to be in bed before midnight and working with Nature All products (Ultra Sleep and Ultra Energy) to optimize sleep quality and energy levels.

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Justin Herbert

PositiveProjection34:48

Herbert is getting a significant offensive system upgrade with Mike McDaniel as the new offensive coordinator for the Chargers. McDaniel is changing Herbert's footwork, moving his shotgun snap stance to have his left foot forward instead of right foot forward to fit the timing of his offense. Timing is king with McDaniel; at the peak of his time with Tua, they were scoring 70 points and leading the league in scoring. McDaniel watched every throw Herbert has thrown in his career and put together a presentation of 100+ throws to show what he could do better, with the goal of speeding up his progressions and time to throw.

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Justin Jefferson

PositiveProjection27:06

Jefferson is ranked 8th overall as the wide receiver 5 in this year's class. He's the most obvious touchdown regression candidate ever, having had the lowest end-zone catch rate in football last year and being one of a handful of wide receivers with as many targets but only two or fewer touchdowns. Despite this, he's still probably the best or top-three talent at wide receiver. He gets a quarterback upgrade now with Kyler Murray, who helped DeAndre Hopkins be a wide receiver 1 for years in Arizona and is an upgrade from what Minnesota had last year.

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Micah Parsons

NegativeInjury41:08

Micah Parsels' return timeline for the Green Bay Packers remains uncertain; the source notes 'We'll see if Micah Parsons gets back early for the Green Bay Packers,' indicating ongoing injury status without clarity on when he will be available.

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Puka Nacua

PositiveProjection23:58

Nakua is the 1B wide receiver and the 4th overall pick. He was the wide receiver 1 in total points and points per game last year with the highest yards per route run in next-gen stats era and led the league in target rate. He had 10 games with 22+ fantasy points, the second most by a wide receiver in the Super Bowl era. If injuries could be turned off, he'd be the unquestioned 1.1, but he's missed time in recent years and his quarterback is older with a back issue, which is why he's ranked 4th.

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Travis Hunter

PositiveUsage5:48

Hunter's offensive usage will fluctuate game-to-game (40-70% snap share depending on opponent and game plan) but he remains a two-way player. The Jaguars have four starting-caliber receivers (Brian Thomas Jr., Travis Hunter, Parker Washington, Jacoby Myers) allowing them to rotate players and maintain depth. Hunter's most productive game was his last, when he recorded 14 targets offensively, and the Jaguars are confident he will build off that performance if he stays healthy.

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PositiveBreakout5:48

The source projects significant year-two upside for Hunter despite a rookie season cut short by knee injury. Hunter is running over 20 mph (faster than pre-injury), cutting well, and is expected to be full go for training camp. The Jaguars plan to unleash him as a starter on defense with the goal of having him play nearly all snaps on defense in particular games, with one Jaguars coach projecting he could be a top-10 cornerback by next year if development continues. He will still play significant offensive snaps (fluctuating 40-70% game-to-game) and his best game was his last, when he had 14 targets offensively.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Josh Allen coming up on this edition of The Insiders, which starts right now.
0:06Hey everybody, welcome to The Insiders. Patrick Claiborne here with our lone insider once again, Mike Garofalo carrying the team on his back for the second straight day.
0:15We're going to get the impacts of Mike doing all that work coming up later on in this show.
0:21But Mike, let's start with the Las Vegas Raiders, the team we started the 2026 NFL Draft with.
0:26Veterans now 20 days away from reporting on the 28th, even shorter for the number one overall pick for Fernando Mendoza.
0:33They report on the 23rd and he has to deal with a number of expectations this season, including those coming from his coaching staff.
0:40I think especially when setting outward goals, I believe it's always better to lean on mentors and coaches and people that know
0:47more than I do at that point. For example, I believe that Coach Kubiak, Coach Janocan, Coach Sullivan would have a better
0:53idea of what a successful training camp is in their plan and progression for me than I do at this current moment.
1:00So I get with them. We talk about my goals.
1:03Hey, this is where we want to be the star training camp.
1:07Past OTAs. We've talked about that. We have a June plan and July plan.
1:11Then, hey, this is where we want to be at the end of training camp.
1:16And this is where we want to be in preseason and really just trying to exceed.
1:21My job is to try to exceed those exceed those mile markers every single day.
1:25And I am able to do that by focusing like Max does on the present moment.
1:30If you look out in the future, hey, I want to throw for this many yards, get this many sacks.
1:36It can seem kind of daunting to the expectation.
1:39But if you can just control the controllable in my present moment, do everything I can today, July 5th or whatever day
1:46it is that I know like, hey, that I can sleep well at night knowing, hey, I did everything possible every single day.
1:53If it didn't happen, all right, then I just got to swing again the next day.
1:57So, Mike, he's trying to exceed those mile markers.
2:00I can understand why he feels that way after the season of football that he just had.
2:05And to lean on those coaches is a pretty wise decision by Fernando Mendoza.
2:10He talked about Clint Kubiak. He talked about Andrew Ginoco.
2:13He talked about Mike Sullivan. Mike Sullivan, the last piece of that coaching staff that was added late after they initially said,
2:19well, we're not going to go with a quarterback's coach.
2:22And they said, nah, nah, nah. Clint Kubiak had some conversations and some folks that he trusts told him, nah, you need
2:29yourself a quarterback coach to work with this guy day in and day out.
2:33So, Sully's going to be the guy for Mendoza in that role.
2:37And look, he didn't name Tom Brady, but I would expect Tom Brady to have some input here and to be in
2:44Fernando Mendoza's ear as well, to be around the building and to be a part of things as the minority owner of the Raiders.
2:51And you put that all together and that is a good group of guys that have had success, guys that have won
2:58Super Bowls as coaches and in Brady's case as players.
3:01And a guy like Mendoza, who you just heard right there, is a sponge, is willing to listen to the expertise of others and then work within that.
3:09So, I have high hopes for Fernando Mendoza both as a rookie and throughout his entire NFL career.
3:15Do I expect him to be the starter week one?
3:18I do not. I expect that to be Kirk Cousins and I have no idea at what point he'll enter, but I
3:25know we'll see him at some point this year.
3:27And I know he'll be ready. I know he'll be prepared and I know he'll play well.
3:33That's my confidence in Fernando Mendoza leaning on the expertise of those around him.
3:37Considering the methods that he takes to have a detailed response to the question, we know that Fernando Mendoza has a detailed
3:44plan for whenever and however that quarterback situation shakes out in Las Vegas.
3:48It was a year ago when the dazzling rookie expectations were also on Travis Hunter and the Jaguars.
3:53And after a season that ended short for him due to injury, those expectations have managed to somewhat increase.
3:59Listen to what his teammate Eric Armstead had to say about the Heisman Trophy winner this week on Sirius XM NFL Radio.
4:06He's a game changer. He's probably the most naturally talented athlete, just pure athlete.
4:10I've been around and I've been around some amazing ones.
4:13And so it was good for our sport and it was good for our team.
4:17He adds a lot of value on both sides of the football.
4:21What he's able to accomplish in year two, things will slow down for him just like they do all of us.
4:28And he'll be going into his second year being in the same system around the same coaches and knowing what is asked of him.
4:35And we know how challenging that can be as a rookie.
4:38Just like you said, just mastering one side of the football.
4:42So I think in year two is he's going to take a huge step and help our team in a lot of different ways.
4:49Joining us now is Cam Wolf here to talk year two for this regime and for their do everything star in Cam.
4:56They kind of need him back on different spots on the team.
4:59Yeah, look, the Travis Hunter show is just getting started.
5:02I know there's been a lot of talk about where he will and won't play and how much he use it.
5:09Look, he's a ready to be unleashed and show why they drafted him number two overall.
5:14Talking to people there down in Jacksonville, he's running over 20 miles per hour, which was faster than he ran before that knee injury.
5:21He's cutting. He's in great shape. He should be full go for training camp and he is still going to play both sides of the ball.
5:29The cool thing for Travis Hunter in the Jags is now they can unleash him as a starter on defense.
5:35And the goal is to eventually have him play nearly all the snaps on defense in a particular game.
5:41And they think he can be elite on that side of the ball.
5:45I had one coach with the Jaguars tell me if he can continue to develop and show what he started to show
5:51last year, you guys, the media are going to be talking about him as a top 10 cornerback this time next year.
5:58That's their belief in him. That's why they are putting commitment and him playing that much on defense.
6:04He will still play a lot on offense and make an impact on that, but it may fluctuate game to game.
6:10Maybe you have a 40% snap game one week based on the opponent in the game plan and maybe another week.
6:16It may be 60 to 70%. They still plan for him to be a two way player, but the luxury for Jacksonville,
6:23they have four starting caliber receivers, Brian Thomas, Jr., Travis Hunter, Parker Washington, Jacoby Myers.
6:28So they can all rotate in and out and help them be even better than they were when they went 13 and four last year.
6:35Travis has been in the building working on both sides of the ball so much so that he's doing meetings, offense, defense,
6:42and getting lists all in the same day. He's pushing the head coach, Liam Cohen, and the GM James Gladstone to give him more, not less.
6:50And that's what I expect from Travis Hunter this season.
6:53His best game, his most productive game was his last game.
6:56And he had 14 targets in that game offensively, I'm talking about, obviously.
7:00And so it's, you know, for us to kind of forget how it maybe ended and say, oh, well, it was sort
7:07of a lost season for him or not quite up to expectations.
7:11If he'd stayed healthy over the last two months of the season, we may be having a whole different Travis Hunter conversation right now.
7:18So that's why the Jaguars know or are confident that he's going to build off where he left off last year offensively.
7:25And add to that everything you're talking about defensively as well.
7:28Play fast on both sides of the ball. Learn more this off season.
7:32Learn more into training camp. Take it with you into the season.
7:36Play faster and be that guy we saw on the way out the door last year.
7:41And for the people frustrated about the way this plays out, literally something that hasn't happened to the scale for an individual player.
7:48So we'll have to wait and see for things to come because they're exciting.
7:52We'll be back with Cam Wolf later on to talk about some coordinator changes and what they actually mean as we get
7:59to the Dallas Cowboys as there's no lag. The Cowboys, rookies and veterans both report on the same day.
8:04That's July 28th. I think everyone expected to be there.
8:07No holdouts, a stark contrast from some previous seasons.
8:10As we say a welcome to our Jane Slater as we get to have everybody back.
8:15We get Jane back on our show. Will the offense were Brian Schottenheimer and George Pickens and Dak Prescott and CD lamb.
8:22Are they going to have a defined identity here in 2026?
8:25You know, it's interesting that you bring that up because this was a top 10 offense last year.
8:31I kept arguing if they had just had a middle of the pack defense, what might have been that was not the case this year.
8:38That defense is looking pretty good. But what I like about both of these coaches, Clayton Adams and Christian Parker, they're not married to things.
8:46In other words, they want to make sure that whatever they're running out there sets up well for the personnel that they have.
8:53You know, in Clayton Adams, their OC, remember, he doesn't call the plays, but he has the OC was asked about this.
9:00He said, no, he doesn't necessarily have an idea for the identity.
9:03He said, rather than committing to being run heavy or featuring more tight ends, he expects the offense to evolve throughout the season.
9:10He says his philosophy is the NFL changes weekly.
9:13Someone will introduce a wrinkle during the preseason or by week six and good coaches adapt to ideas that fit their personnel.
9:20He said last year, as one example, he wasn't really sold on being an outside zone team.
9:25And then it proved effective. So he's not playing coy here.
9:28He's not. There's no gazemanship in this. He's just saying, look, we'll see what we got and we'll roll with that.
9:35Yeah, I believe that, Jane. I agree with that.
9:37And you look at some of these depth charts around the league and there's so much, whether it's yellow or red to
9:44show you what the changes are, draft or free agency.
9:47There's not a lot of that, at least on the front end of the Cowboys offensive depth chart.
9:53I mean, this is continuity for this team. And this is what allows you to be flexible as an offense and to
9:59go back and do some things that you were doing before it evolved and do something else.
10:05And to be run heavy one week or to be to be able to throw the ball and they can do that.
10:11They feel like they've got a strong offensive line, guys that have really molded and continued to grow and molded together as a unit.
10:19So, yeah, I don't I don't think that that's any kind of cat and mouse, Jane.
10:24I really believe that this could be a team that can run the ball on you one week and then throw it
10:30all over the yard the following week. But for you, what is the area of improvement, one area of improvement for this Cowboys offense this year?
10:38Well, real quick, I do want to add on that, you know, also keep in mind they want to keep things fresh.
10:45They're being really deliberate about having Dak Prescott run the offense from out of center more so that he can make some
10:52of those throws, whether that be throwing to his running back, throwing to his wide receiver.
10:56That's something that they're emphasizing. And then remember, George Pickens, we've been told they plan to use him in the slot more.
11:03He only was in the slot about 10 percent of the plays last year.
11:07So that one's going to be real interesting to watch.
11:11But red zone efficiency, Mike, that's an area they've got to clean up.
11:14Adams told us before the break they were derailed by self-inflicted mistakes.
11:18He says he believes the offense has to do a better job of using the full width of the field.
11:24He says when there's really only five to six yards, he says you don't really want to be thinking about the vertical space.
11:31You want to use that lateral field. So he says that's a principle that's going to apply to both the running and passing game.
11:39So something to watch. And Mike, before people start tweeting me, I don't know if you've talked about this yet.
11:45I don't think you have. Have you seen the rumors about Vaughn Miller?
11:49Vaughn Miller got things going this afternoon when he posted a photo of him in a Cowboys jersey.
11:54I checked in on this. I was told there is nothing going on.
11:58That doesn't mean there won't be at some point, but people are making the connection because he's from the DFW area.
12:05He crossed paths, of course, with Christian Parker with the Broncos and they could use, I guess, some outside linebacker help there.
12:11Man, our producers are quick with it. Hope I didn't step on your toes and you guys had that one planned.
12:18I just wanted to bring that up because I was getting text messages all afternoon on that.
12:23But I do love me some Paul Wall. Exactly.
12:26I threw that one down. Yeah, maybe folks are going to connect him to the Houston Texans.
12:31Sipping on both. He's tipping on two-fours. As Jane Slater gets into the grill of everything related to the Dallas Cowboys.
12:37Thank you, Jane. More to come here on the Insiders, including the argument of our time for running backs.
12:43Bajan or Jameer, only one of them can be good.
12:46Just kidding. But who do you pick in your fantasy draft?
12:49That's coming up with Michael F. Florio. And things have changed.
12:53So many have changed for the Buffalo Bills. Can their postseason hopes change just as much?
12:58A conversation with Josh Allen coming up on the Insiders.
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13:07Kayla Tacker climbed the ladder. I grew up with all boys.
13:11I think just seeing them play the sport and being able to fall in love through them.
13:16It's kind of scary because you're a girl. It's like, oh, she can't play.
13:20She's not tough. But I think the best part was being able to make the plays and prove to the boys that
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14:00How about this? The new Highmark Stadium getting some new installations.
14:03In fact, that's the last Buffalo going into place.
14:06The final bison as the Bills come into the 2026 season with a new head coach, that new stadium, and an oddly
14:12familiar feeling that comes with having one of the best quarterbacks in the game who also recently sat down with our Tom Pelissero.
14:19One of the best in the NFL on and off the field.
14:23Josh Allen, wired right there now with us here on the Insiders.
14:27Josh, first of all, I want to ask you this because listen to that wired.
14:31I have to imagine, you know you're wearing the mic, right?
14:35How conscious are you of don't say the thing that's going to end up becoming a meme or end up causing a
14:41problem when you know that you've got the mic on?
14:44Honestly, probably more than I should care. I have told my team though, like don't, don't tell me when I'm mic'd up.
14:51I don't want to know. I don't want to try to be different or say something different.
14:56So, but you quickly figure it out. You feel something, you know, on your pads and you notice a little more camera action on you.
15:04So it's hard to miss, but it definitely changes how I talk a little bit.
15:08So you don't give the teammates like the, you know, the old mob thing, like, Hey, just got the wire on today.
15:15You give them nothing. If I know, I'll let them know.
15:19But if I don't know, it's all fair game for everybody, I guess.
15:22All right, Josh. So you're coming off a mini camp here.
15:26You say got a month or so before training camp.
15:29When do you allow your brain to start looking ahead and thinking football again?
15:33Um, I don't think my brain stops thinking football, to be honest.
15:37So you try to get away and then get it off it as much as you can and, and, uh, really enjoy your time off.
15:44Um, but constantly thinking about it, constantly thinking how I could be better.
15:48And, uh, just excited to get, get back on the field here soon.
15:52And July 28th is our report date and, uh, you know, get things in full swing here soon.
15:58I know you're an excellent golfer. Uh, I also know that my golf game descended precipitously after having my first child, just
16:05from a time and reps time on task standpoint.
16:07How are you keeping up here in your, your first off season as a dad?
16:12Excellent is a very nice thing to say, but we're not excellent or we're good at best.
16:17I I've been told by the people close to you, the Brandon beans, the world who are very good themselves.
16:23I've been told that you were very good. We have fun.
16:27I haven't been able to get it out as much like you had before mentioned.
16:31Um, but you know, it's, I'm enjoying what I'm doing right now.
16:35Uh, being, being dad and, uh, I'll get out on the golf course when I do.
16:40All right. Tell me what you're doing now with nature, all a, a, uh, prescription that certainly you would think would help you at times like this.
16:48Yeah. I mean, it's, uh, my second year here at nature, all last year I joined the team because I actually took
16:55their product for an overflight or overcontinent trip from Italy back to LA.
16:59And I actually slept like a good 11 and a half hours on that flight.
17:03And I woke up and felt great and called my agent.
17:07It was like, Hey, I need to be involved with this.
17:10And now going into year two and now being a new dad and unveiling a couple of new products.
17:16We've got the, uh, ultra sleep and ultra energy.
17:18Um, just again, benefiting and helping with the sleep that I can get and want to make sure that I'm doing everything
17:25right off the field as a, as much as I am in the weight room in the film room.
17:31And then on the field, it's all going to marry up.
17:34So this is just another way to, to make sure I'm doing everything the right way.
17:39Well, listen, there's a ton of, you know, sleep studies that have been done, especially over the past decade here.
17:45Players have different wearables and things like that to judge it.
17:49Do you find whether it's off season or in season that you're sleeping as much and as effectively as efficiently as you need to?
17:56Yeah. And if I'm not, that's, that's when we get some trouble.
18:00So, and now, I mean, again, as a new father that you get that baby down and you're like, I gotta, I gotta be in bed shortly thereafter.
18:08Um, you know, I, I told me would consider a win if I was in bed before midnight.
18:14So we bumped it up by a couple hours and you know, we're, we're getting a lot of good sleep right now.
18:20It's, it's not just though the getting the baby down.
18:23It's also then the baby wakes up and you don't know if that's going to be in 30 minutes.
18:29It's going to be in three hours. Exactly. Well, that's going to be.
18:33What is your go-to move? The baby while he wakes up in the middle of the night, have you found a trick
18:40of this works with Harper to get her back to sleep?
18:43Yeah. There's a certain hole that she likes, uh, and a certain rocking motion.
18:47So I've got it down pretty much to a, to a T it works every time.
18:52And, but if she's hungry, there's nothing really I can do.
18:56So my move was the run the faucet. As long as the faucet was running, that was kind of a white noise
19:02type of a thing that was effective. Last thing.
19:05All right. You see, you, you won't go along with excellent golfer.
19:09We'll give you a good golfer. Just rate yourself right now.
19:12Quality of a diaper change for Josh Allen. Um, I'm 11 out of 10.
19:16Love it. No blowouts. You never see him coming because sometimes you have one of those days, Josh.
19:22Thanks a ton, man. Great seeing you. Thanks so much.
19:25Great to see you as well. Here's what's new today coming into the NFL LA newsroom.
19:30Fernando Mendoza will report to training camp for the Raiders with his fellow rookies on the 23rd says his job is to
19:37exceed the mile markers that the Raiders coaches have laid out for him.
19:41Some of that coming by observing fellow quarterback Kirk cousins and how he operates.
19:45There's been a lot of great mentors in that quarterback room so far.
19:49And. A big thing with Kirk is the way that he just processes information and it's not always just me, you know, load overloading him with questions.
19:57It's sometimes taking a step back and listening to what he has to say, seeing the way he asked the coaches questions,
20:04seeing the way he writes notes and then pick and choose my points to ask questions as well with Aiden.
20:10And. And. The advice that he's given me is just it's just off preparation and you see a common theme with all,
20:17you know, great quarterbacks and them being prepared, if not over prepared, and then making sure they're doing everything possible.
20:23And being prepared to the max to the max point in order to best serve their teammates and the best serve and
20:29give themselves the best chance to succeed on Sundays.
20:32And seeing the lengths that Kirk is going has gone to in the mental.
20:36Aspect of it and the way that he stays after hours is there till 7 p.m.
20:41At night studying is something that I look up to and I'm looking to replicate and get my process refined office.
20:48Learning from others is great. No, Fernando and the fantasy is first round, but maybe one day as we get our fantasy
20:54football primer joined here in studio by Michael F.
20:57Florio, as there's a lot of people looking forward to their first fantasy football draft, maybe ever.
21:02So let's lay out the ideal first round. I love that opportunity.
21:06Mike. Yeah, I'm excited. Like, cause I'm always like, oh, that's how the first one should look.
21:11If I did it, I get the opportunity to do the whole first round here.
21:16I am pumped. The entire first round will start with the first three picks.
21:20How does it look? Very obvious names at the top.
21:23To me, Jameer Gibbs is the 1.01 this year, but there's a couple of other options up there.
21:29But the reason I like Gibbs is because he led the NFL in points per opportunity the last two seasons and he
21:35could get even more opportunities now with David Montgomery gone.
21:38So that should lead to even more production there.
21:41Look, you know how explosive he is. You know how great he is as a pass catcher.
21:46All of that. The reason he is one to me though, and the next guy is, is two was because the offense
21:53he's tied to the lines are gonna be one of the best offenses in football.
21:58He's got a better quarterback than the other running back.
22:01So because of that, I think the scoring opportunities are a little bit safer for Jameer Gibbs, but he's one a the one B is B John Robinson.
22:09And I think these two running backs are going to be tied together for their entire careers.
22:14They're neck and neck every year in fantasy points.
22:17We all know how good B John is explosive just like Gibbs great receiver.
22:21He can handle a ton of work as well, though.
22:24He is the only player in each of the last two years with at least 360 touches in each of those seasons.
22:31Plus the past concern had been Tyler Algier vulturing touchdowns and last year they split goal line looks.
22:37Well, Algier is gone. So B John could reach even new heights if that is even attainable.
22:42And then Jamar chase. He's my wide receiver one, but this is again a one a one B type of situation.
22:48But Chase has been a top three wide receiver each of the last two years.
22:53He's super explosive. I would argue probably brings the highest weekly ceiling of any wide receiver.
22:58And then he is the same OC quarterback all of that.
23:01And the last time that him and Joe Burrow both played a full season chase won the triple crown and was the runaway best player in fantasy.
23:09And the biggest difference between me and the next wide receiver is just help.
23:13Jamar chase has just been more available. And that is a huge asset for fantasy purposes.
23:18Yeah. And so you go through these first three picks.
23:21If folks are like, hey, this is chalky. You don't want to do a bunch of weird stuff.
23:27Yeah. You want the best players when the first three picks it's tough to make a case against those guys.
23:33So we'll leave those first three picks and go to four or five and six.
23:38How do we make that shake out? The one B at the wide receiver position is Puka Nakua.
23:43Like if you had him on your team last year, you know just how good he was.
23:48He was the wide receiver one in total points and points per game.
23:52He had the highest yards per route ran in next gen stats error last year.
23:57Led the league in target rate 10 games with 22 or more fantasy points.
24:01That is the second most by a wide receiver in the Super Bowl error.
24:05If you could turn off injuries like in Madden, he'd be the unquestioned one dot one, but he's missed some time in recent years.
24:13His quarterback is a little bit older with a back issue.
24:16So that's why he's four to me. But four is my favorite pick in the draft because I think the top four
24:23are the four best players in fantasy and I want one of them.
24:27And then at five, this is where I start to change things up a little bit from consensus.
24:32I have a Monra St. Brown here at five because metrically he is fantastic.
24:36He is the focal point of a high powered passing attack that should have a ton of scoring opportunities.
24:42And he is the face of consistency. He's been a top four wide receiver in total points and points per game in each of the last three years.
24:51But it also is consistent on a week to week basis.
24:5411 games last year with 15 or more fantasy points.
24:57That was the third most amongst all wide receivers.
25:00And then the name that a lot of you probably expected in the top five.
25:05He comes in at six for me. It's JSN.
25:07And look what he did last year was amazing, but he was off the charts efficiently.
25:12He had the highest percentage of a team's rec yard by any player in the last 12 seasons.
25:18And on top, like the Seahawks last year though, they were tied with Baltimore for the lowest pass rate in the league.
25:24No Clint Kubiak. So those concerns were enough for me to push a Monra St.
25:29Brown just ahead of him. But six overall, it's, it's not like we're pushing him down more or anything.
25:35You hate JSN so much. You dropped them all the way down to the number six pick.
25:40So here's where we are. Our last three picks after Jamar Chase, Pukenakua, Amon Ross St.
25:45Brown, Jackson Smith and Jigba at six. I'm wondering the guy at seven probably felt great about wide receiver.
25:51He feels less great now. Are we pressuring the guy at number seven to go with another wide out at this point?
25:57I'm actually going with a running back here. There's a couple more wide receivers you'll see in the first round, but I
26:04have Jonathan Taylor here who I am just a big fan of.
26:08And at one point last season, it looked like if you did not have Jonathan Taylor on your team, you weren't going to win a championship.
26:16But that was before Daniel Jones got hurt. Good news.
26:19He's going to be healthy this year. Last year with Daniel Jones, 24 fantasy points per game that fell to 13 after Jones was hurt.
26:26He also led all running backs with five 30 point fantasy games.
26:30You know, he's going to get all the goal on work.
26:33You know how explosive he is. He is just to me, one of the safest running back picks you can make.
26:40And the ceiling is very, very high. And then this is where I change it up a little bit again.
26:46I have Justin Jefferson as my wide receiver of five in this year's class, which I think Jefferson is the most obvious touchdown regression candidate probably ever.
26:54He had the lowest end zone catch rate in football last year, one of a handful of wide receivers to have as
27:01many targets as he did and only get two touchdowns or fewer.
27:04And I would argue he's still probably the best, if not the best, a top three talent at the wide receiver position in football.
27:12But he gets a quarterback upgrade now. And for those who are like, well, Kyler's no good.
27:17Kyler helped Deandre Hopkins be a wide receiver one for years in Arizona.
27:21And I think he is an upgrade from what Minnesota had last year.
27:25And then I have another wide receiver here, CD lamb, who look, you could spell his whole name out with two emojis.
27:32He was a fantasy wide receiver one and fan and points per game for straight seasons tied to a great offense, a great play call.
27:39Are you were, you guys were talking Cowboys earlier in the show.
27:43A lot of it is the same as what they brought back last season.
27:47So I expect CD lamb to continue to eat.
27:50And I know him and pickets missed some time last year, but when they're both out there, he gets operate out of the slot.
27:57I mean, good luck stop as like a five, 10 cornerback stopping this guy.
28:01I mean, yeah, you're going to have your hands full all game.
28:05Yeah. Dak Prescott has finished as the Cowboys leading passer in nine seasons.
28:09Those other ones, he got hurt six of those seasons.
28:12They had top 10 scoring offenses, two times. They were the number one scoring offense.
28:17Make the case. That's the best receiver group he's ever had.
28:20Also a very good group of receivers we have here in your first nine picks.
28:25So let's bring this first round to a wrap here.
28:28What are the last three picks look like running backs for me?
28:31Cause I do think there's a fall off a little one after the top six wide receivers.
28:3710 for me is a guy that's going to go a lot earlier than 10 in most drafts.
28:42It's Christian McCaffrey. But if you watch the show regularly, I've come on a lot and said that I am afraid of drafting CMC this year.
28:50I know what his ceiling is. It is being the best player in fantasy, which is why I can't put him any lower than 10.
28:58But I just have a lot of concerns because last year we saw, we saw his metrics as a runner really declining
29:04at the fewest rushing yards over expectations of all running backs last year.
29:08But even more concerning to me, he had 450 touches.
29:11Every running back since 2010 who had that many touches in a season saw their yards decrease by at least 38% the following year.
29:19And CMC had over 400 touches once in his career.
29:22The following two years, he played 10 games combined.
29:24I'm not saying he's going to miss a bunch of time, but the risk is just higher with someone at this age coming off of that many touches.
29:33And then I have Ash and Jenty who is going around where he went last year.
29:38Um, but I think, and some people are going to say he was disappointing last year.
29:43I think he was a lot better than what people realize.
29:46Like, look at this here. Some of his stats are eye popping here.
29:50I put this out on Twitter, but like top five and basically all of these metrics.
29:55So what held him back was the situation, but things are better.
29:59Now they improve their O line in a big way.
30:02Uh, you could argue that the quarterback play could be better.
30:05And then it's Clint Kubiak who won the Superbowl with the Seahawks last year.
30:09Now calling the plays. I am very excited for what Ash and Jenty could do in year two.
30:15And then my guy, you can call me a Homer if you want.
30:19And by the way, how are you guys going to have Josh Allen on the show and not have the biggest Josh
30:25Allen supporter on this network or any network being a part of it?
30:29I'm just saying, but, uh, look Jimbo here, the bills played him, paid him before the season last year.
30:35And then it led to him having by far career highs and carries rushing yards and fantasy points, 32 touchdowns in the last two seasons.
30:43And the talk right now is that there could be even more involvement for him in the passing game.
30:49So if that happens, his upside is top five, if not even higher at the running back position.
30:54All right. Full recap of Mike's ideal first round draft picking for everybody.
30:58It's the Jameer and Bajan at one, and then a huge run of wide receivers chase the cool.
31:04I'm on Ross St. Brown and JSN slider running back in there.
31:07And Jonathan Taylor, Justin Jefferson, CD lamb. And for those of you who are saying, Oh, Florio saying, uh, fade Christian McCaffrey.
31:14Yeah. Fade into the number 10 overall pick. Still a pretty solid pick, uh, there, but we've got an entire first round all there.
31:21But what are the, the guys who narrowly missed the cut?
31:25I really wanted to push him or Ian Hampton into my top 12 and by August, he really might be in there.
31:31Um, I'm going to keep, I talked him up earlier this week.
31:35I'm going to talk him up a lot this summer.
31:38And it's because of what Mike McDaniels brings to this offense.
31:41He throws to the running backs at a high rate.
31:44And even more than that, he used outside runs over 60% of the time.
31:49It was a huge increase from what the charges did last year.
31:52Hampton six best yards per carry on outside runs.
31:55And he was a first round pick in the NFL draft for a reason.
31:59Uh, and then chase Brown. Like I think there's 15 first round caliber players.
32:04You can only fit 12 in and chase Brown is one of them.
32:08I think he's highly underrated. He was better last year than he was in 2024.
32:12Yet there's less hype around them coming into this season.
32:15And once, uh, Joe Flacco and Joe Burrow played from week five, a six on last year, he was the fifth best
32:22running back in fantasy, a dual threat guy who sees goal line work.
32:26Sign me up all day. And then AJ Brown.
32:29Look, I was telling you to draft AJ Brown as a top five, seven pick last year.
32:34It didn't work out, but I'm not blaming AJ.
32:37I think AJ Brown could still play at a very high level.
32:40And Drake may was the best deep ball thrower in football statistically last year.
32:45I think this is a system that is going to get the most out of him more than what the Eagles were doing last year.
32:52And there's less target competition than he had the last few years in Philly.
32:56So I expect a big bounce back year from AJ Brown.
33:00Yeah. One of the few people who's not blaming something on AJ Brown.
33:04And yes, Mike, we'll have to get in. We're going to have discussions with the powers that be the next time Josh Allen is made available to us.
33:12Please. We'll have him. And perhaps, you know, restraining orders will be in play after that.
33:17But Michael F. Florio, full first round for you right here on the insiders.
33:21Yes. The aforementioned Mike Beck. How about changes elsewhere?
33:24Coordinators changed everywhere this off season. What does it mean?
33:27We discuss with Ken Wolf and Mike Garofalo next on the insiders.
33:31Back here on the insiders. NFL players choice begins next Monday at 2 p.m.
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33:43He's pressured. He's got a ton of room. There goes Josh Allen.
33:47Locks one end zone. It's a touchdown. Lost the middle.
33:50Going for Watson. Got it. Touchdown. Going deep. Catch.
33:53Made. The Iceman cometh. The Iceman taketh. Jackson got away.
33:56And throws to Flowers downfield. He's got it. Drop it back.
33:59Throwing it to the end zone. And it is hauled in.
34:02Burrow throws it deep. One hand catch with the right hand.
34:06Pulls the ball in his hand. Gets it downfield.
34:08Blocked down. Folks, the NFL preseason is coming up very soon.
34:12August 13th through the 29th. 32 live games coming to NFL Network and ESPN.
34:1619 live matchups available for you right here on NFL Network.
34:19Looking forward to that. All starting up August 13th.
34:22Counting down the days to Super Bowl 61 there outside beautiful SoFi Stadium.
34:26This tweet from the NFL account. Looking forward to that.
34:29Of course, the big game will be on ESPN and ABC coming up after this season.
34:34But let's talk about this season and who gets there with Cam Wolf and Mike Garofalo.
34:39Cam, so much change in the coordinator space. Which one?
34:42Let's pick out some offensive coordinator changes that can ultimately define this 2026 season.
34:46Let's start with Mike McDaniel with the Chargers. I can't wait to see what he does with Justin Herbert.
34:52It's going to be incredible. He's already starting that work this offseason.
34:56Talking to people there. A big start has been changing Justin Herbert's footwork.
35:00Something as simple as moving his shotgun snap stance to have his left foot forward instead of his right foot forward.
35:06To fit the timing of Mike McDaniel's offense. Timing is king with Mike McDaniel.
35:10We saw at the peak of his time with Tua.
35:13They were scoring 70 points and leading the league in scoring.
35:17Think about that with Herbert's talent. Changing the footwork.
35:20Changing the mechanics to make everything go faster. Speed up his progressions.
35:23The goal was to make his time to throw from snap to throw.
35:27To be a lot faster than it was. Get the ball to his playmakers quickly.
35:32And look, McDaniel watched every throw Herbert has thrown in his career.
35:35And put a presentation of 100 plus throws together to show what he could do better.
35:40I'll tell you this. As a fantasy football fan, I want to own every Charger this year.
35:45I think this offense is going to explode. Next, let's go to Carolina where they have the same coordinator but in a new role.
35:53Brad Izzik will now be the play caller with Dave Canales now looking over the entire offense, the entire team in a CEO role.
36:00I think that's going to be great for both parties.
36:03A little bit more for Izzik. His specialty is wide receivers.
36:06He's been the guy behind the hub helping this Carolina Panthers offense do well.
36:11He helped Teddero McMillan have a thousand yards last year.
36:14He can help him continue to be one of the best receivers in football.
36:18They obviously drafted a young receiver that can come in and play spots where McMillan can play a lot more in the
36:25slot and unleash this offense for Bryce in a new way.
36:28They've created a basketball team of 6'3 or taller receivers for Bryce Young and I've been really high on this Panthers team.
36:35Izzik can be the guy that can really help elevate them as a play caller.
36:39His connection with Bryce Young has been really cool to see.
36:43I talked to both of them in camp last year.
36:46And is it challenge Bryce Young to be more vocal with the team?
36:50Use his leadership. He did that and players saw a different version of Bryce.
36:54Can't wait to see what they do another year together in a different role.
36:58This is part of an overhaul of the entire coaching staff.
37:02The guy I'm looking at Cam is Matt Nagy with the Giants with Jackson Dart.
37:06Now a guy that I want to say it.
37:09I want to do it. I want to put the same names in the same sentence.
37:14Maybe I'll just put a period between Jackson Dart period Patrick Mahomes period.
37:18But there are similar traits. Let's say he's Patrick Mahomes light.
37:21Let's say Jackson Dart. So I do think that there is going to be a little bit of translation from what he did in Kansas City.
37:29Matt Nagy, that is. But I also think it's going to look different than Andy Reid's offense.
37:34And I think you're going to see the Giants run the football a little bit more.
37:39You know, John Arball wants to definitely do that.
37:42So I think you're going to see a little bit different offense, but one that could play in the Jackson Dart strength there.
37:49Fascinating offense to me this year, the Giants. Yes.
37:52And despite all the work to keep them out of the same sentence, they ultimately worked their way into the same sentence.
37:58So there we go. We'll have big headlines on that quote.
38:02Let's go over to the defensive side of the ball, Cam.
38:05Let's start with Christian Parker, the Cowboys defensive coordinator.
38:08Look, this is a guy is a leader, a bunch of energy, a guy that Dallas Cowboys fans are going to love.
38:15And he infuses that into his players. I've talked to Pat Sertan about Parker, who he coached in Denver.
38:20He couldn't stop raving about how he mentally challenged him.
38:23He talked about communication, technique, communication, technique, and he challenged him to think differently.
38:28Talk to Quinion Mitchell and Cooper DeGene. They also will tell you similar stories.
38:32He made all of those guys pro bowlers. The Cowboys need some help at the cornerback room, a perfect core coach to help them.
38:39Also Brian Schottenhammer has given Parker a lot of keys to run this defense and give impact and personnel.
38:45He was able to help and impact Caleb Downs, who they drafted.
38:49I can't wait to see how he is used within this defense.
38:52And look, the Cowboys gave up 511 points last year.
38:55Most in team history. Parker is going to change that.
38:59Book it. That's good news. Bad news. You may not have him for long.
39:03He's 34. And for multiple people I talked to, he is on a direct path to being a head coach in this league.
39:10He's a guy that is going to change the dynamic of this Cowboys defense.
39:14The Eagles got a loss. The Cowboys got a win.
39:17And for Parker, he's waiting to see who is the next player he's going to help take to the Pro Bowl like
39:24he's done for many stars in his past. And then we go to Buffalo where we talk about Jim Leonard.
39:30Joe Brady got a lot of attention as new head coach, but it'll be a completely different scheme in Buffalo after being
39:37in the Sean McDermott system for so long. I'm keying in on the Buffalo Bills run defense, which has been an Achilles heel for them for many years.
39:45Eager to see how they use different defensive tackles in different ways.
39:49TJ Saunders, who was drafted last year, may not been a best fit for McDermott scheme.
39:54I think he is going to be unleashed in Jim Leonard scheme.
39:57Ed Oliver could be in a position to have even more pass rush opportunities within Jim Leonard scheme.
40:03We all know they've got Josh Allen there, but the question has always been, does he have enough on defense?
40:09I think Jim Leonard is the right mind to be able to unlock and maybe a new modern way.
40:15It may take some time early, but if they eventually get that scheme down with the right personnel, Buffalo could be on
40:22the right direction to finally getting over the hump.
40:24I love it. How about Jonathan Gannon with the Green Bay Packers?
40:28Now this Cardinals defense under him, but it was Nick Rollis as well, was not very dominant, but go back to his
40:35last time as a defensive coordinator with the Eagles and that team, how much they sacked the quarterback.
40:40Now there weren't exotic schemes to make it happen because they had guys that could just rush the passer, but Gannon's capable
40:47of mixing it up a little bit. I think you're going to see that with the Packers and he's going to put
40:54Micah Parsons once healthy in a position to really dominate from several different positions along the line, maybe even off the line at times.
41:01So I think you're going to see a more creative Jonathan Gannon than the last time you saw him as defensive coordinator.
41:08Matt LaFleur went hard to get Gannon. He landed him.
41:11They're expecting big things on that side of the ball.
41:14Yeah. And oddly enough, his little brother gets the job that Jonathan Gannon left so much to track in the NFL.
41:20And yeah, he certainly has a particular defensive talent to help that pass rush.
41:24We'll see if Micah Parsons gets back early for the Green Bay Packers.
41:28Cam Wolf, Mike Garofalo, they're awesome coordinator shifts. Congratulations going to Adam Vinatieri, the 21st player to go into the Colts Hall of Fame and Ring of Honor.
41:37Looking forward to that induction happening on October the 18th.
41:40And also, the Saints countdown one month away until Drew Brees induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
41:46Looking forward to that. Yesterday we saw Christian McCaffrey working with trainer Ito Portal on movement culture.
41:51We had some fun talking about it. And then we got some hands-on experience with that movement culture as we're back with Mike Garofalo and Cam Wolf.
41:59Mike, how was your experience? I thought I could get my hands around, which I did in sort of.
42:05But it also, it hurts really bad. And I did this under the supervision of my trainer here.
42:10Shout out Iron Boy Performance, Tyler Woodman. And boom!
42:13I thought I broke a bone there at one point.
42:16It's the third one. I'm like, I'm done. We're done.
42:19We're done here. And my wrist hurt for like the next hour.
42:23All right, Cam, how was your experience? Yeah, so I'm with you.
42:27I was out of breath when I was doing this.
42:30My hands were definitely hurting. I spent a lot of time working out.
42:34I've never done this full motion before. The hard part is the plyometrics, just like getting it fully around.
42:39But hopefully I did a decent job here. No, Cam, because during our Josh Allen interview, the shoulder mobility is a real issue.
42:46Nice! That's the real issue there, because I'm feeling like my arm is moving.
42:51I'm basically doing arm circles. So shout out to Ido Portal and Christian McCaffrey.
42:55Whatever fun stuff you want to share with us, we'll do it.
42:59Thanks for watching the Insiders for Cam and Mike.
43:01I'm Patrick. We'll see you tomorrow. I can do the claps.
43:05The claps are easy. I got those. This is an iHeart Podcast.
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