0:00The Week 5 Waiver Wire is here as always with Joel Smyth and we have a lot of injury situations to talk through.
0:07The Eagles with Saquon Barkley, we know about the Bengals wide receiver duo going down so how do we replace Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins in our lineups.
0:15Plus Kansas City Chiefs, I know they're on the bye but an interesting name and Tyreek Hill, is he back in our lives?
0:22Yes. All this work in the summer and we talk about Joe Mixon, Tyreek Hill and many other names from the past.
0:28Here on the Week 5 Waiver Wire episode. So stick around for this episode of Yahoo Fantasy Football with Josh and Hayden.
0:34Welcome to the Week 5 Waiver Wire. Just to peel back the curtain here a little bit, Joel and I already recorded 40 minutes.
0:41That was when we thought Tank Bixby was stepping in for Saquon Barkley.
0:45Then we leave the computer for 30 minutes and find out Joel that Tank Bixby who entered Week 4 with an abdominal
0:52injury now has to have core muscle surgery. So Joel, this is where we kick things off.
0:57With the Philadelphia Eagles backfield, the Saquon Barkley, Saquon Barkley leaving after four snaps.
1:01And now, Tank Bixby down for six weeks. What do we do?
1:04How do we handle this Eagles backfield? Well, Shipley would be the number one just because he's the only survivor.
1:10The Eagles, some teams roster four running backs, but Eagles roster three.
1:14They have Saquon and they have Bixby and Shipley.
1:16Shipley's the only one left. So I think they trust him enough.
1:20He's been on the team for a few years now.
1:23They trust him enough where they're going to give him that workhorse volume.
1:26There's not many just practice squad running backs behind them.
1:29So they're going to come in. I'm sure that he's not going to get 100% of the work, but hopefully he gets all the important stuff.
1:37Dare I say that this makes the pickup even easier?
1:40Like I understand that they've never utilized Will Shipley as a true feature back or as a true bell cow.
1:46He has been on the team. This is his third season.
1:49Uh, and Will Shipley is one of those players that coming out of Clemson.
1:53I kind of view him as more of a passing down back and that's what he has been mostly in the NFL.
1:59Then he just looked bigger to me once hitting an NFL field and typically it's the opposite of that.
2:05And he has had certain games where like week seven, 18 of the 2024 season, he had 10 carries week 10 of the 2024 season.
2:12He had nine carries in the 2024 playoffs when they were blowing out the Washington commanders.
2:17He had four carries for 77 yards. And a touchdown.
2:20I mean, it's Damian Pierce. And then it's Jaden blue also on this roster, like from practice squad and all that type of stuff.
2:27I think the obvious pickup is just Will Shipley and Joel was to the point that I think they want to throw more than 20% of this.
2:35Yeah, I would agree. Like we knew what the split was with him and Bigsby.
2:39He was getting a third of the carries surprisingly half the red zone work, which is a good sign for now.
2:45And then the receiving that's less valuable. But when you bring up like week 18, 2024, he got exactly 50% of the work targets carries.
2:52And that was with Kenny Gainwell. Kenny Gainwell is not there.
2:56I wouldn't say that Pierce or blue are equal to Kenny Gainwell.
2:59So I do really think that he can get 15 to 20 touches a week right now.
3:04Yeah. I mean, I do think it's a question if he's good enough to be a workhorse at the same time.
3:10I don't think that like tank Bigsby was going to be a workhorse.
3:14Like they were going to play like they did when Saquon went down 29 snaps for Will Shipley, 29 snaps for tank Bigsby.
3:21So it was going to be split 50-50. I don't think now it's going to be split 50-50 between Shipley and Damian Pierce or Shipley and Jaden Blue.
3:29I would almost lean 65, 70-ish percent. And that's large when we look at all of these across the league.
3:35So I don't think he's explosive as tank. I don't think he's as explosive as Saquon Barkley.
3:40And look, maybe they do rely a bit more on the tush push and the quarterback sneaks once they get inside the
3:46five-yard line in the red zone versus, you know, the goal line touchdown that we got from tank Bigsby back in week two.
3:53But just from a consolidation standpoint, maybe I'm wrong.
3:55Just kind of makes things clear for me as someone that drafted a lot of Saquon Barkley.
4:00I know I'm going to be prioritizing Will Shipley a lot tonight.
4:04Yeah. And he had a carry from the six-yard line.
4:07Bigsby got everything for the five. But it's like, all right, at least he's getting some red zone work.
4:12I think that's the big question. Like, does he get the deep in the red zone area that doesn't go to hurts?
4:19Because everyone always talks about like Barkley not getting goal line carries and it's annoying and him and James Cook.
4:25But since those two as examples are usually on really good offenses, Barkley still had a ton of goal line carries like
4:31back in 2024 when he was the overall RB1 because the Eagles offense was down there a ton.
4:36So if Shipley can get these touches from like the 10 to the three-yard line, that would be the key here compared
4:43to like, oh, do they use a bigger back in that spot?
4:46Totally. And obviously the center and left guard spot are still in work in progress.
4:51We don't even know about Lane Johnson at right tackle who missed week four due to personal issues.
4:56I do want to bring up the schedule. They play in London this week against the Jaguars.
5:01The Jaguars run defense is incredible. They just shut it down.
5:04In fact, like the Bengals just passed on them this past week.
5:08So I'm not sure if we'll ship is going to be a great play here, but then it's like the Panthers and the Cowboys and the next two.
5:16And so the Saquon thing to me is not just a one week thing.
5:20It might be, but I mean, that looked horrific.
5:22The hamstring issues that might be more of a two to three game thing.
5:27And now we know Bigley's out for six weeks.
5:29So I think we're looking at Will Shipley for the next two to three games.
5:34Okay. Let's talk about the Cincinnati Bengals double dose of injuries.
5:37Jamar Chase leaves in concussion protocol. T Higgins exits in the fourth quarter with a groin injury.
5:42And this is notable, Joel, because they get the Miami Dolphins this week.
5:45So three names we have to talk about here.
5:48Dante Myers, Mitch Tinsley and old reliable. Not so much.
5:51And Mike Isiki. Talk me through what you're thinking.
5:54Yeah. Shout out to you. You shouted out Isiki last week again of picking them up.
5:58It's an interesting one again, because both of these injuries are likely going to be one week.
6:03Probably not zero. Probably not two, though, for both of them, based on the news that we have right now.
6:09Mike Isiki in the past, when one of these two have been down in 2024, he was great.
6:14Good sample size, 14 points per game, about seven target per game guy.
6:18Last year, he only had a few games like that.
6:21And he himself was coming off of injury. So it wasn't that good.
6:25But there's some other factors in there. And then we're looking at the two receivers.
6:29Dante Myers, great story. Wasn't supposed to be in the starting lineup, but undrafted.
6:33Didn't even play like D1. But they didn't get to a Bengals team.
6:37Camp hero. They add him to the 53-man roster.
6:40And now their top four receivers are hurt. So not just those top two.
6:44Yoshi's hurt. Colby Young, as that other rookie, is hurt.
6:47So Myers comes in as this short area yard to catch receiver.
6:50And showed out he had the most routes out of any player in the NFL yesterday.
6:55So they trusted him to be out there all the time.
6:58And he made some plays. Let's take this one by one.
7:01Let's first start with Isiki because he is one of the more known quantities.
7:05I love what you said where, you know, he just posted three catches, 40 yards, one touchdown.
7:10In fact, he now has three good stat lines for the season.
7:1478 and one on five catches, three for 37 and one, and now three for 40 and one.
7:19Um, if we go back over like the last three years, like you can go back to 2024 when T Higgins missed
7:26week two, Mike Kosicki was the tight end five.
7:28Uh, in week 13 of last year, T Higgins played below 75% of snaps.
7:32Mike Kosicki was the tight end two. T missed weeks eight and nine back in 2024.
7:37Mike Kosicki was the tight end 16 and the tight end one week 16.
7:41Same thing last year in terms of T Higgins not playing 70% of snaps.
7:45He was the tight end 13. And like you said, that was all with Andre Yoshi boss on the field and without
7:52him on the field, there's even fewer competition with Kosicki.
7:54So if you need a replacement this week for Travis Kelsey or Darren Waller, heck, if you're really struggling, I think at
8:01the flex Joel, I'm immediately putting Mike Kosicki in my lineups.
8:04It is to me that easy that we can get someone of this caliber who was good in the red zone attached
8:11to Joe Burrow, that this doesn't come around very often.
8:13And I want to attack that here on the way.
8:16Yeah. Especially if both of those guys are out.
8:19I also just thought with you saying that it's a revenge game, he's going to Miami.
8:24Yes. So that'll be interesting. And yeah, Yoshi is the slot receiver in Cincinnati when he's in there on those 11 personnel plays.
8:30So just sick. He has the other slot receiver based on this offense.
8:34There is lots that is kind of propelling forward for Otruston.
8:37Yeah. We talked about last week that the Bengals are leading the NFL in terms of 12 personnel sets, at least prior
8:44to week four, they were a lot of that was, you know, with the blockers of Drew Sample and Eric all.
8:50And then when they get Mike Kosicki in there, he is a quote unquote wide receiver.
8:55But again, he is their wide receiver three on paper on the roster.
8:58At least we thought. And that brings us to Dante Myers.
9:02Like you said, one of the best stories in the NFL, just to talk people through it.
9:07He paid his way to try out for the CFL.
9:09He then became a huge part of the gray cup winning team.
9:13He was apparently driving door dash and then earned a roster spot on the Cincinnati Bengals.
9:18There's this other layer to this where Joe Burrow said, Hey man, I know you're in the area.
9:23Let's go and play catch. And Dante Myers was not in the area.
9:27He was in Atlanta and drove overnight to Cincinnati to then play catch with Joe Burrow.
9:31But even more important than that, Joe, like if I told you on the waiver wire, you can get a wide receiver
9:38attached to Joe Burrow that played 92% of dropbacks in week three, excuse me, week four of the NFL season.
9:44Wouldn't you want that every single time? Yeah. And you're saying 94% of dropbacks, they drop back a lot.
9:49So even though it's a percentage stat, that's extremely high.
9:52So yesterday, I think Burrow had like 54 attempts, I believe 54.
9:56And then the post game, they asked them something about like the balance of the offense.
10:00And he's like, yeah, we should throw more. I'm like, all right, they're going to throw their first and pass rate of are expected.
10:07You don't have to be too good as long as they're going to be throwing nonstop, no matter the game scripts.
10:13And the Dolphins can't cover anyone, you know, like what they allowed TJ Hawkinson to do last week, what we've seen in
10:20other games that they've played so far this season.
10:22I want to be aggressive with both these guys and go in at least if I need a one week starter for
10:29either an injury, another spot or a biweek fill in.
10:32I think both of these are kind of plug and play.
10:35Now I do want to say with Myers, like you said, he opened the game as more of a manufactured touch screen
10:41type guy and check down and run after the catch.
10:44Then when they were pressing down the field, he was running more downfield routes and came up with some tight window stuff.
10:51So I need to go back and watch like every single one of his routes and just watch his targets.
10:57But it's notable. I mean, on the field for 92% of dropbacks, that is certainly something I was not expecting prior to the season.
11:04Okay. Seattle Seahawks backfield. At the end of last week, Jadarian Price is put on injured reserve.
11:09Now I know all of you that watch this channel already know that Emmanuel Wilson is the lead ball carrier for the team.
11:15For now, he's rostered in 49% of Yahoo leagues out there.
11:18But Joe, another wrinkle onto this is that Joe Mixon is working out for the Seattle Seahawks today.
11:24And then Zach Charbonne has his practice window open and might return in a couple of weeks.
11:29So how are you viewing the Seahawks back? As long as it is like this, then I fully trust Wilson.
11:34Helani in this game was basically just a third down back.
11:38Wilson actually had more targets. It was four to one in the targets.
11:4121 carries. So 25 touches for Wilson when Charbonne is back and that becomes more of a split.
11:47Then he becomes your more touchdown dependent double flex type of play.
11:50But as long as it's just him and Elani, then I think he can be trusted in this offense.
11:56Mixon, if he were to sign, I would expect him to be limited for a game or two.
12:01He is 30. He's not like this huge threat.
12:04He's like, you kind of pick him up if you want, but don't expect too much on waivers.
12:09But it would make price or make Emmanuel Wilson a little less in fantasy if he's doing any more of the split that he has right now.
12:17Yeah. Wilson had 60% of snaps this past week, which shocked me was that he got four targets.
12:22I mean, two were designed screens. He scored a 23 yard touchdown on one of them.
12:27He had another escort screen on top of that.
12:29So I certainly wasn't expecting Emmanuel Wilson, who had, I think, two targets in the opening three games or in the fourth game.
12:36Uh, and I don't think Zach Charbonnet is as close as other people are mentioning the visual of his right leg versus
12:42his left leg and the size of the two is really standing out to me.
12:47I, I think that if they signed Joe Mixon, they believe they can kind of slow play the Zach Charbonnet return.
12:53Um, now again, Mixon didn't play at all last year.
12:56He is 30 years of age. He's coming off.
12:59We don't even know what the injury is, but a significant injury to his foot.
13:03So I don't want to get too ahead of my skis, but Joel, I will say that when I heard him working
13:09out and traveling to visit the Seahawks during our starts at show on Sunday morning, I went out and added him in
13:16almost every single league just because he is one of those that you didn't have to wait for the waiver wire.
13:22And I would suggest everyone else do that right now too.
13:25Yeah. The big thing with Wilson is does he keep that short area role?
13:29So I think he does as long as it's not Charbonnet back.
13:33Like if mixing comes in, I think Wilson keeps that, but it is all TBD mix.
13:37And it's just one of those weird ones. Like he could be huge.
13:41He could be absolutely nothing. Double dose of injuries for the chiefs wide receivers as well.
13:46Rushy rice pulls up the hamstring issue on his first catch.
13:49And then Taequann Thornton steps in, has a monstrous day with two huge downfield catches and then dislocates his ankle.
13:55I'm expecting him to be sidelined for a long time, if not the entire season.
13:59And so that brings us to three names versus Jalen Royals, who played 63% of snaps, just two targets and did absolutely nothing with it.
14:07Cyrus Allen filled in for a couple of snaps here or there, obviously a preseason superstar, but the name on the tip
14:13of everyone's tongue, Joel is Tyreek Hill, who's already rostered in 22% of Yahoo leagues out there.
14:18That was shocking to see when writing this up.
14:21So give me the details. How do you think the chiefs are going to handle again?
14:25This is their bye week, so this is more about week six, the wide receiver room moving forward.
14:30Yeah, I don't mind a little bit of fab on Tyreek with him potentially coming in.
14:35I think he can be the biggest factor, especially if rice does come back.
14:39But when we're looking at the bye week in week five and then rice injury right now, the reports I've seen is it's a minor hamstring injury.
14:47I don't know if minor hamstring injuries exist, but it has a chance of being more just a one to two game absences, especially with the bye week.
14:55So I think Jalen Royals and Cyrus Allen can both fill in his type of role.
15:00I think it will still be more receiver by committee.
15:03You still got Kelsey there. You still got Xavier worthy.
15:06But Tyreek becomes the more interesting option for me because he can fill in that deep down field role where even though
15:12Thornton isn't the superstar, he's had a couple of games now where he's done pretty good work in fantasy.
15:18Yes. And with how the chiefs are right now in terms of needing kind of man coverage beaters and, you know, Kenneth
15:24Walker forcing more single high sets that is allowing Patrick Mahomes to hit more of these downfield shots as well.
15:30Hit one of Xavier worthy again, hit others to Tyquan Thornton.
15:33Joel, I mean, for everyone that we just spoke about, all of those are kind of short term ads.
15:39If Tyreek Hill signs with the chiefs, isn't that the one long-term addition that we've spoken about so far and a long-term
15:45addition, couldn't it kind of be like the week five version of what we got with Debo Samuel in week one, who
15:52no one wanted to draft prior to the season.
15:54And now he looks like almost an every single week wide receiver three slash flex conversation.
15:59We should, I think, be in that same exact spot with Tyreek Hill.
16:03If he rejoins his team, he knows the coaches, Andy Reid, Eric B enemy.
16:07He had his best years with that. And I'm not saying, you know, Tyreek is a hundred percent, but if he's 80%
16:13of what he was, he's the best wide receiver on this team.
16:17Yeah. He looks good. I know it's just like beach workouts and sand, but it was like, oh wow.
16:22He's cut him pretty well for how gruesome that injury was.
16:25And if you're in a trade happy league too, he's one of those players where you can trade for maybe a short-term
16:32piece or a long-term piece that's similar. If you don't even want Hill, like I think he has some trade value too.
16:38If like you get them on waivers and someone's like, oh, I really wanted Tyreek Hill dynasty redraft any league like that.
16:45Yeah. Yeah. We might not get him signing with the chiefs by the time this video comes out.
16:50If he signs with another team, I think I'll be less enthused.
16:53But again, in a moment, we'll talk about our, and rank our top three waiver additions this week, but we've got three
17:00more entries we've got to talk about here. Next up is Devante Smith and the Philadelphia Eagles.
17:05We know he missed this week with hamstring issue.
17:07It could also be another week, according to my buddy, Bill Wolf, and maybe even another one after that.
17:13We'll see. We've talked on Taven Wicks and Makai Lemon in the past.
17:17It's actually Darius Cooper who steps up in a big spot here.
17:20Seven targets, three receptions, 33 yards, and two scores.
17:23Now we are on the heels of just 93 passing yards here from Jalen Hurts.
17:27So Joel, people see that fancy points total and ask themselves, okay, is Darius Cooper for real or is this just a
17:34one week blow up on the radar? I think he'd still be my third favorite receiver on this team right now.
17:40It makes it more of a, how much fab am I spending?
17:43Probably none at all here. Makai Lemon, him and Dontavian Wicks all basically had the same amount of routes and targets in this game.
17:50So it fell his way and he made some incredible plays, but it doesn't necessarily make me trust him over the next
17:57couple of weeks as Devante Smith is out. I think it's just going to be split between them.
18:02Yeah, I agree. This team has to run 11 personnel though.
18:05Like they just don't have the tight end bodies in order to do that unless they run like six offensive line, which
18:12actually might be a consideration to get this running game back going.
18:15But Darius Cooper even played more dropbacks and ran more routes than Makai Lemon did this past week.
18:20So he's their best blocking wide receiver. And they've certainly talked about that too.
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19:02The crown is yours. Okay. Buffalo Bills. DJ Moore left this game once again.
19:06That means Keon Coleman is back in our lives.
19:08It's rostered in only 4% of Yahoo leagues. I went back and watched all six catches, 116 yards and his touchdown.
19:14Joel, this version of Keon Coleman deserves everyone's attention.
19:17In the two games that DJ Moore left early, Keon jumped up to 74 and 78% of snaps was closer like 30,
19:2335% in the games that DJ Moore stayed and played the entire time.
19:27Um, the first time this happened, 63 yards and six catches again, this time, six catches, 116 yards.
19:32He basically inherited DJ Moore's role like motion into stacks or crossing routes, true downfield concepts, three levels, flood concepts.
19:38And he was the intermediate target. He even had a design screen on top of it.
19:43So I guess the confusion here is that DJ Moore is not being ruled out for the entire game or ahead of games.
19:50And so if he was to me, this would be very straightforward and Keon Coleman would immediately go into lineups, but we don't have that, right?
19:57We just have AC joint issue. DJ Moore might play.
20:00He might not. He might start. He might not finish all that type of stuff.
20:05And that's what makes this one the most confusing.
20:07Yeah. I would be confident too, with Coleman, if DJ Moore is out of this game, one of the bigger ones for
20:14me, looking at those two games specifically, he's had 13 targets and 12 catches on those 13 targets where just that shows more than anything.
20:21It's not like, Oh, we had a 50 yard pass and he's not really, he's kind of the same besides that.
20:27And the past when we've been, you know, complaining about Keon Coleman, Oh, he was a bus those first few years.
20:33It's mainly been like a 50% catch rate receiver.
20:36And it's a different role this time. He's been a lot more efficient and just better in this offense.
20:41Totally agree. If we got word that DJ Moore was going to miss two games, Keon Coleman would be, I think, number
20:48one or number two on this list for me, or top three at the very least.
20:52But again, if this is also a Lad McConkie like situation where he plays and then it's only about 30% snaps and
20:59he's in and out, then you just can't go into those with your fancy lineup, having Keon Coleman locked in and taking up a starting spot.
21:06So maybe we get some clarity moving forward with that too.
21:10Okay. Last one, Washington commanders, Terry McLaurin hamstring issue for him.
21:13They were across the pond. We know that Stefan digs should be in your lineups.
21:17He's already on rosters, but a couple of names that aren't Antonio Williams roster in 6% and has been featured here in
21:24the program before and trail on Burks at 0%.
21:26So what'd you see from this group? It would still be Williams for me.
21:30Burks has three catches, two touchdowns, which is awesome, but it doesn't give me too much confidence and just going off of history.
21:37Williams is a rookie. He's been looking great all season and camp everything.
21:41So his role is improving. He's getting a target on 27% of his routes where there's only about 20 receivers in the NFL that are better than that.
21:49So really good volume when he is on the field.
21:52He's just more like digs. A lot of the inside slot work in there too, but you also had that 90 yard
21:58touchdown that was called back and wasn't called back for holding or something that impacted the play.
22:03It was an illegal shift, which is the worst.
22:06Yeah. There's some small frustration here. And when Terry was down, they split the snaps four ways like digs and Tony Williams,
22:12Deami Brown and trail on Burks all played at least 56% of snaps.
22:16And then none of them over 70% of snaps.
22:19I will say just to what you pointed out, Antonio Williams has some hidden value here.
22:23Again, he played the most of the group and then Deami Brown and trail on Burks both had explosives down the field.
22:30And like you said, he had the 87 yard yards after catch touchdown called back to that pointless five yard penalty.
22:36And then every time he's had his number called the season, whether it's week one to week four, even on just a
22:42small pitch count, just a small number of routes, he stepped up in a big way.
22:47So like if we get Terry McLaurin out for a week or two again, and Tony Williams would climb the ladder for me.
22:54But at some point, I think he's just an outright, really good addition for you because at some point you would like
23:00to think that they just get rid of the Deami Brown and trail on Burks snaps and condense it down into Terry
23:07McLaurin and Tony Williams, who's this outside inside player.
23:09And then Stefan Diggs is going to play about 60, 65% of the snaps every single time.
23:14That would be really nice. Would you, if, if McLaurin was out in week five and it's him and Diggs in there,
23:21would you consider starting them in any leagues with the quarterback situation with Mario?
23:25That's probably going to be out. Daniel's probably going to be out.
23:28Because I would consider it for sure if Daniel's is in, but right now.
23:32Yeah, I think like five seconds after they played, Dan Quinn said that Jane Daniels was going to start the next game.
23:39So he saw, he saw enough of the late round rookie, the Greek guy from, from Rutgers.
23:44It was like, you know what? Jane Daniels is coming back with a brace, but we don't know what's going to look
23:50like if Jane Daniels can, you know, finish the game on top of that.
23:54All right, Joel, let's rank the top five pickups or we can do three.
23:58However you want to do this for week five.
24:01Good to me. Number one would be Will Shipley.
24:04And I would even say like, if Emmanuel Wilson did get picked up on your waivers at the end of last week,
24:10for some reason, I would put Shipley above Wilson.
24:13So I'd say there's a pretty big gap for me with Shipley.
24:16Number one, number two would be Jasicki for me.
24:19I just think he is proven, trusted. If one of them misses, he's playable.
24:23If both miss, then it's like, how are you not playing him in a way?
24:27He's got the ceiling at a tight end position where usually ceiling is hard to come by.
24:32And number three right now, I am going to go Tyree Kill.
24:36Just as a stash, I think it is one of those huge swings.
24:39He's either going to be nothing or he's going to be pretty impactful.
24:43And I'll take that swing right now with him.
24:46Yeah. Will Shipley is number one for me, especially as a person who drafted a lot of Saquon Barkley.
24:51That just makes sense. Again, I'll throw out 20, maybe even 25%.
24:55Heck, I might even be a bit ambitious when I actually put in the waivers and go over that, Joel.
25:01Number two, I'm going to say Tyree Kill. And tell me if I'm getting over my skis.
25:06But I kind of related this back to, you know, the Debo Samuel conversation that we had in week one.
25:12But this is a guy who used to be awesome, signed off the street, goes back to his former team, knows the staff, knows the offense.
25:19And from there on out, like Debo, because of some injuries, but has basically been a wide receiver three.
25:25I think we can get that from Tyree Kill if he signs for the Chiefs.
25:29Like, that's what I want to say. This is all about him and me, my mind already putting him in his destination in Kansas City.
25:36And if that's the case, I'm not saying he's going to be 100% or 90% of what he used to.
25:42But if Tyree Kill is 80% of what he used to be for the Kansas City Chiefs, he's easily their best wide receiver.
25:49Yeah, it's the same factors with Debo, as you said.
25:52Not only that, but there's also the injuries in Kansas City.
25:55And it's a good offense, a good quarterback play, like San Francisco.
25:59So it makes sense. He was like 13 point per game score in that like one, one and a half, four, one and a half months-ish in 2025.
26:07So even if he is just 80%, that's still good enough.
26:10With the bye weeks starting now with, you know, the Chiefs and the Panthers, I wouldn't be surprised if Tyree Kill, and
26:16again, if he signs now with the Chiefs, it's on a bye so he can kind of get ramped up if he
26:23turns into a wide receiver three or flex for us.
26:26So I'm going to put in 25% for him.
26:28And then Mike Kosicki is my number three for you.
26:31Again, we outlined the when team misses or when Jamar Chase misses, he kind of becomes a go-to pass catcher.
26:37And then it's just a bunch of caveats. Like if I knew that DJ Moore was going to miss the next week
26:43or two, then Keon Coleman would supplant Mike Kosicki.
26:46If I knew that Terry McLaurin was going to miss the next game or two, then Antonio Williams would then supplant Mike Kosicki.
26:53But we can just put them at four and five on the list here.
26:57I like that. Okay, let's go through some quick hitters here.
27:00And a lot of these are kind of deeper names on top of that.
27:04I just want to bring up Kirk Cousins for people's quarterback concerns.
27:08Again, we've gone through this with Justin Herbert to Kyler Murray to Drake May until, you know, he was the quarterback one.
27:14All this type of stuff like we can throw and we've talked about Bryce Young and Tyler Shock.
27:19And, you know, I think Jacob Brissett has some streamer value.
27:23But Kirk Cousins quietly, the quarterback 10, quarterback 11, and the quarterback four over the last three weeks.
27:28Now, he does get the Patriots and the Bills over the next two.
27:32But he is doing enough, obviously, to keep Fernando Mendoza on the sideline.
27:35And he is really ripping these passes and not taking sacks and not really throwing interceptions either, Joel.
27:41Yeah, it was one of those. We rank hundreds of players each week.
27:44Sometimes we just kind of don't look at players like Kirk Cousins.
27:48And I checked like his game logs, his fantasy game logs right before week four.
27:52And it was like 16 points in week one, but then 21, 22, and now 24 points.
27:57Incredible. So for Kirk Cousins, the next two weeks, the big factor would be the Christian quarterback, cornerbacks.
28:03That is Christian Gonzalez and Christian Benford in these next two games.
28:06Do they miss those games again? Then I would say Kirk could be usable in some leagues against the Patriots and the Bills.
28:13Rest of season, there's probably better options. And to make matters worse, 32nd ranked schedule.
28:17Rest of the way, dead last for the Raiders, both Cousins and Mendoza.
28:21Just quickly on Mike Washington. He's already rostered 35% of leagues out there.
28:25On the first three series for the Raiders, he played nine snaps.
28:28Ash and Gentey played nine snaps. Then they came out of halftime and Gentey kind of pulled away in the second half.
28:35However, once again, he was nursing an injury. He kind of hobbled off with trainers.
28:39He was asked about it. First said, no, I'm not injured.
28:42And then kind of let up and said, yeah, I'm kind of going through some stuff.
28:47To me, it makes sense that in the opening portions of games, Clint Kubiak is basically going to say, hey, Mike Washington, you're going to carry for us.
28:55And then Ashton Gentey is going to be more of the passing down back.
28:59And we kind of save some of his work for a second half.
29:03So you don't have to comment on that. I just wanted to throw that out there that Mike Washington maybe has a
29:09bit more of a snap share than he did in the first three weeks of the season.
29:14Caleb Johnson in the Packers backfield. It doesn't matter, but he's their leading rusher now, at least was this past week.
29:20And he's still rostered in just 6% of Yahoo League.
29:23So, Joe, we always talk about getting the running back one on teams.
29:27Does it even matter? Should we care if it's the Packers running back one?
29:31Yeah, he fumbled at the goal line, which is also tough for if he's going to stay the running back one.
29:37Lloyd was a little more involved in the passing game, I believe.
29:41So I'm not too interested. Nope. Malik Washington. We talked about him last week of the Miami Dolphins.
29:4631% of Yahoo Leagues. That's jumped up from like 6%, I think, last week.
29:50Joe, I mean, he's averaging 55 yards per game.
29:53If you were in a PPR league out there, this is your scam filling.
29:57You know, 5 to 7 receptions per contest, 50-ish yards.
30:00It might not equal a touchdown. It might not equal explosive plays.
30:03But this is your solid 8-ish, 10 points per contest and get out of there.
30:08Yeah. You took the words out of my mouth.
30:10Deeper league PPR. That's where I'm fine with it.
30:13The Dolphins have scored four touchdowns this season. Not much touchdown upside.
30:16But if you are in a deeper PPR league and you're deciding between Malik Washington or Xavier Worthy, then yeah, I would take the floor of Washington.
30:24Yeah. You play him and you don't watch that game.
30:27And then you feel gross about, you know, selecting a PPR scheme player.
30:31But then you look back and he scored you 9.7 fancy points and you feel better about it.
30:36Quickly, Tyler Algier. There's some interesting comments that Jeremiah Love said, quote, this will be the longest year of my life.
30:42He was referring to some load management stuff that the Arizona Cardinals were already keeping in mind how much of a workload that he got.
30:50And it stood out that when the game was on the line with about two and a half minutes to go, the
30:56final 13 plays, Jeremiah Love didn't play a single snap of that.
31:00It was all Tyler Algier. So we went from 26 touches in week three down to a minimalized work here for Jeremiah Love in week four.
31:07And Joe, if I know fancy football at all, that's back to 26 touches in week five.
31:12Could be. Could be. I tried to listen to as much as like the coach's press as I can or read about it.
31:19And last week, LaFleur was like super noncommittal when asking about like, oh, is this just Jeremiah Love show from now on?
31:25And he's kind of like, oh, we'll see. We'll see week to week.
31:29And then it came out like this week where he kind of dominated the red zone work all season.
31:35Algier has been the two minute back, which is crazy to me, but they trust him in that role.
31:40So Love's still going to get the touches, but it is more of a limited receiving and elsewhere role right now.
31:46Keaton Mitchell. It's a three men committee with the charters right now.
31:50I mean, almost exactly even snaps. Mitchell 26, Hampton 25, Kamani Pidal 25.
31:54And Harbaugh said he wants to keep it that way.
31:57I will say with the snaps, Keaton Mitchell did see the largest backfield share.
32:01That's up to 45% now. I will maintain, Joel, that I don't think Keaton Mitchell, you can build the running game around him.
32:07And on top of that, Rayshawn Slater is now out for multiple weeks on crutches with, I believe, a high ankle sprain.
32:14So this running game might get even worse than what it has been.
32:18He's got three offensive line injuries yesterday, which is tough.
32:20Don't know yet about the other two in terms of longevity.
32:24But yeah, he's get a couple of design targets at three yesterday and we'll get some of the outside runs.
32:30So you're just kind of banking on one of those hidden for big place.
32:34Quickly on Trey Harris, look, no surprise. Quentin Johnson for like the third straight week is on the drop list.
32:39Trey Harris, I think, is a good player and he should be getting more work, especially if Vlad can't stay on the field.
32:46He's only rostered in 9% of leagues out there.
32:49So he's, I think, going to continue to see his snaps and routes ramp up and increase.
32:54However, Joel, I don't know if I feel comfortable suggesting a Chargers wide receiver based on their point totals on any given week.
33:00And especially when looking at their schedule, when it's the Broncos, Chiefs, Rams, Texans and Ravens over the next five games.
33:07Now, obviously, the Broncos are down some corners, including Patrick Sertan.
33:10So as much as I like Trey Harris as a player, he might be better like on paper than in practice.
33:16It's a second half stash. I would say a solid one.
33:19It was actually his first game where he led the team in routes.
33:23He passed Johnston in routes run. So I think second half of the year after this schedule lines up a little bit, he could be something.
33:31Roman Wilson had a Thursday. He is now seeing at least 15% target share in every game for the Steelers this year.
33:37He leads the Steelers wide receivers in yards per outrun and success rate on the season.
33:42Now, Joe, we also talked about him last week when he had a tip that went for an interception, a drop that went for an interception.
33:49He lost snaps to Jeremy Bernard. So, of course, again, fancy football then allows him to be the Steelers wide receiver, too.
33:56This week. Yeah, he was great in terms of the points.
33:59The route share went down to 37 after, yeah, like 46% down to 37%.
34:03Those last two weeks, it's just been down overall with Pittman back in.
34:07So I think as long as Pittman and Metcalf are both healthy, he's a tough start.
34:11Just a couple quick names here. Quentin Sutton might be more on radars with Pat Bryant dealing with a high ankle issue.
34:18Again, Sutton was kind of being squeezed from two sides where you had the Jalen Waddle stuff.
34:23Then you also had the Pat Bryant stuff. I also had that Bo Nix is not playing good football right now.
34:29So the Cortland Sutton pick might not hit like it did last year when he is out there all the time and
34:35getting downfield shots and so on and so forth.
34:38Malachi Fields, 7%. If Jameis Winston continues to show that he'll throw down the field with no regard, Malachi Fields kind of
34:44gets a little bit more value, but not someone I'm keeping in mind very much.
34:49And then Jalen Knowles is a really frustrating player for me because it's so clear that the Houston Texans need juice.
34:55Getting Nico Collins back in the trickle down was felt.
34:58He had a 52 yarder in the first quarter with about three minutes left.
35:02Then didn't get a second target until the fourth quarter with four minutes left.
35:06So no matter what Jalen Knowles does for this Texans team, Joel, he's still not going to get more snaps.
35:12It feels like. Yeah, I wouldn't expect it too much.
35:15Nico is the number one by a large, large margin over there.
35:18So I'm fine with that, but I don't really want to attack anywhere else in this Texans offense.
35:23Yeah, any other names you want to hit on here?
35:26Like I even threw an Efton Chisholm who did handle the second most routes after Matt Collins exited with an injury and
35:33Efton Chisholm had the walk off touchdown in the end zone.
35:36There's a hundred names you could touch on, but if there's no others, then I totally get it here too.
35:42Yeah, Hawkinson's 13 targets. I do somewhat believe in just because where they were 10 of them were five yards or fewer.
35:48So it's just Murray. Yeah, pepper and I'm on those short targets.
35:52And the last one would be the other Bengals receiver, Mitchell Tinsley.
35:55He's more of the T Higgins replacement. Your ex receiver jump ball guy can test the catch.
36:00So he started playing a lot more at the end of the game when T Higgins came out and he can make
36:07those catches and have a little bit of touchdown upside.
36:10Dropless time. Justin Herbert. Obvious. I mean, he has yet to reach 14 fancy points in a single game.
36:15And just again, when you say it can't get worse, it really might get worse with these offensive linemen.
36:21Dalton Schultz is on there for me. He kind of had his TJ Hawkinson moment a couple weeks ago against the Bengals defense.
36:27They were going to target tight ends against the Bengals every week.
36:31Just the linebackers and safeties down the spine. That's an obvious weakness for them.
36:35Chris Godwin. Michael Pittman Jr. QJ. Joe for me.
36:38Again, they're all dropable. I've already mentioned all their names, but is that fair to you?
36:42Yeah, I would say that's fair. Okay. J.K. Dobbins.
36:45Look, I understand on paper that J.K. Dobbins is the Broncos running back one, but one, they can't run the ball two on a per touch basis.
36:53He is so much worse than what he was last year.
36:56And then three, as I continue to talk about this Broncos backfield, none of them are really going to matter unless it's just one person.
37:03And we kind of got it to be one person this past week because the Broncos were trailing in R.J.
37:09Harvey, and that's why he gets, you know, 10 receptions for 67 yards.
37:13He now leads the NFL in yards up the catch because, you know, some of his receptions are short.
37:18So like J.K. Dobbins, if he's not scoring goal line touchdowns, he's worthless.
37:22And Joel, there's no guarantee he even gets a short yardage goal line touchdowns because, again, they like to use R.J.
37:28Harvey in those situations, too. Yeah, I'm fine with that.
37:31I don't necessarily like want to drop him. Right.
37:34But if you have to and you really like a guy on waivers to replace them, I'm fine with it.
37:40The hope is just this offense turns around. Like that's the main issue in Denver is just the offense as a whole has been a problem.
37:47So if that turns around, maybe Dobbins can have a little bit more fantasy potential.
37:52And I'm not saying drop Blake Corum. I will say his your mindset of him being on your roster needs to change.
37:58He's almost purely running back insurance now. Like Kyron Williams is getting so much more work in these last two weeks than he was in the first two.
38:06And again, the Kyron Williams stuff, if they're trailing or tied, he plays 75% snaps.
38:11And if they win and scored 27 points, then he's scored a touchdown there.
38:15But Blake Corum, Joel, I think people were kind of manifesting and extrapolating what happened in last year's playoffs into the season.
38:21And that snap share has not sustained itself. And Kyron is just looking like an extraordinary player and like truly being a
38:28downfield pass catcher to like adding to his game at this point.
38:31All right. That's all we covered. So many names.
38:34Thank you all for watching. And you can go check out Joel stuff.
38:37It's linked in the description down below. Some awesome social content for you as the week goes along.
38:43And we'll be back here tomorrow with stats versus film on the channel.
38:47We'll see you all then.
