0:00Your Week 5 Wide Receiver Rankings are right here.
0:03Unfortunately, they're like half-baked. Again, I want to get ahead of this.
0:06There are so many wide receiver injuries. We did our best to talk through every single one and some of the news
0:13hit live during this episode on top of it.
0:16So if you're still worried about the Jamar Chase, Tee Higgins, Terry, Diggs, DJ Moore, Ladd, Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, we go
0:22through all those situations along with understanding that Hayden updates these rankings throughout.
0:26Up until Sunday and throughout the weekend. So we've got a lot to talk about.
0:31We've got some Lions wide receivers. Can you trust them?
0:34The Saints wide receivers? Can you trust them in big, big, big point totals, but also especially from the Saints perspective against
0:40a big time defense in the Minnesota Vikings. Look, 39 names are covered.
0:44Over 39 minutes are in this episode. So sit back, relax and enjoy Yahoo Fantasy Football with Josh & Hayden right now.
0:51All right. It's time for the Week 5 Wide Receiver Rankings.
0:54Kind of. I mean, Hayden, you and I were talking through some of our fantasy teams.
0:59I have won the Experts League. I'm without six players.
1:02Six on short benches. I might be starting like Kenyon Sadiq and Dante Myers this week.
1:06There's a number of wide receivers. Okay. Jamar Chase, Tee Higgins, Terry McLaurin, Stefan Diggs, DJ Moore, Ladd McConkie, Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison.
1:13It's still too early in the weekend. But we're going to talk through some of these players as if they're in and
1:20some of them as if they're out. Yeah, this is why I write words.
1:24You guys read words over on Yahoo Sports. I will update this as the final injury reports come through.
1:30Tried my best to kind of read through things, but you know, it's impossible.
1:34A lot of these are 50 50. So we'll talk through them as the names pop up.
1:39Yep. We appreciate your comments of, hey, what if or why isn't and all these types of things.
1:44But just understand that Hayden, who is the fifth best ranker in the known universe right now, unless, you know, some aliens
1:51have their own pros that they keep things tracking and things of the sort.
1:55Not after my Bucky Irving ranking last night. And so he will be constantly updating these and those are in the description down below.
2:02All right. This week's week five wide receiver rankings are brought to you by Farmers Insurance.
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2:12Let's talk Pukunakua versus the Buffalo Bills. He is at number one for you this week.
2:16Uh, Hey, and the bills are good up front.
2:19Not so good in the back end right now.
2:22Really bad. Maxwell Harrison just been kind of, you know, left out to dry in a lot of situations and he's really tiny.
2:29And I think that he's going to specifically, um, be targeted against Pukunakua and Devante Adams.
2:34Uh, Christian Benford's been, been missing. Uh, they've had 27 man coverage reps this season.
2:38They've allowed five touchdowns on them. So it's just not a good secondary one-on-one.
2:42Uh, I still have some worries about the pre hernia stuff, but that's like more like long-term issues.
2:48I don't know. Something I need to like truly factor in going into each individual week, 29 point team total third highest Monday night football.
2:55This is gonna be an awesome game. Yeah. Matthew Stafford has thrown for over 300 yards in three straight games.
3:01I believe, uh, this might even be more of a conversation once we get to Devante Adams, because we know that Puka
3:08loves to work over the middle, but like the boundary stuff specifically to this Buffalo Bills secondary has been rough.
3:14Again, you brought up Maxwell Harrison's name. I actually think Jim Leonard has done a decent job and upfront, like Dan Walker,
3:20as we can talk about each week is just coming to his own as a literal wrecker on these stunts and twists and all that stuff.
3:28Um, quickly, I know people love our updates on the, uh, death league over on Yahoo.
3:33I'm loving that at the same time. Uh, I did not get Puka Nakua, uh, Matt $450 waiver entry for him.
3:39I think only put in like 290, but, uh, he has been the kiss of death for four straight weeks.
3:45The roster has been eliminated in that death. All right.
3:48I'm on Ross St. Brown is your wide receiver too.
3:51This is at the Arizona Cardinals. Um, yeah, I mean, there's going to be a ton of points here, a 30 point
3:58team total for the, for the lines this week.
4:00Yeah. 30 point team total. He's on pace for 196 targets this year.
4:04He's cleared 14.2 expected half PPR points in eight straight games.
4:08I think a lot of this is because their own secondary is just in a really bad spot.
4:13They've allowed the fourth most fancy points. Arizona has this season.
4:16Top 17 finishes to Malik neighbors, Debo Samuel, JSN, Ladd McConkie.
4:20Uh, yeah, this one's very easy. Yeah. Without pressure, Jared Goff has completed about 76% of his passes with seven touchdowns and zero interceptions.
4:27Yeah. Uh, the Cardinals sit in two high shells at the second highest rate in the NFL at 73%.
4:32They really don't disguise anything pre-snap either. And then against too high, according to worksheet, Jared Goff has completed 72% of his passes.
4:39Wow. So that's how you get a 30 point team total.
4:43Jackson Smith and Jigba is your wide receiver three.
4:45This is against the San Francisco 49ers. Talk to me.
4:48He's faced the Niners five times since 2024. Like when he like was really starting to break out.
4:54Uh, they've done a pretty good job against him.
4:567.8, 9.4, 11.4, 14.9, 16.8 half PPR points. Uh, he's only scored once in them, but he's had 84 yards and three of five.
5:04So like kind of a step down versus like his normal performance against him at the same time.
5:09The entire 49ers defensive line is pretty banged up at this point.
5:13Team total is at 24 points. Uh, and you know, JSN gets the ball relentlessly there.
5:17The 49ers also had like a crazy game against Michael Wilson and then Jalen Wallace scored a touchdown as well.
5:23So I think it's like a totally gettable matchup.
5:26I would say like this is like kind of a big three to me.
5:30Well, does that end the S tier with just those three?
5:33Yes. Wow. I love it. Like keep the elite short, you know, keep that small group.
5:38That brings us to Drake London, who is your wide receiver five.
5:42Um, this is against the Baltimore Ravens. Michael Penix has the highest clean pocket rate in the NFL at about 65% of the time.
5:49I've seen that Jake Matthews. We haven't seen the Friday practice reports, but he's been limited so far this week after missing like half of the last game.
5:57But until, you know, teams consistently get pressure on Michael Penix, they're going to be able to run the football and then throw over top of him.
6:05A lot of under center play action stuff, not that much pressure because they've been winning games.
6:11This is going to be a game where it might be more of a toss up.
6:15We might see a little bit more panic from Michael Penix at the same time.
6:20And he just throws the ball to Drake London, pretty much nobody else.
6:24Uh, 14 games with, uh, Michael Penix since 2024, Drake London's a wide receiver three and wide receiver eight usage target share 35% of them.
6:31That's wide receiver one overall wide receiver one overall and air yards per game at 116.
6:36Um, he's finished as a wide receiver two and then wide receiver 24 overall without a touchdown.
6:41So he's just been balling recently. I don't think that's going to stop either.
6:45The Ravens have a good defense, but I think there's still like, you know, it's a new defense.
6:51I don't think they have like enough edge rushers, like to really make them like a great unit on top of that.
6:57And so I think like they're doing cool things.
7:00They have awesome players in the secondary, but it's not a defense that we should like be totally panicked about.
7:06They've allowed the eighth most fancy points to receivers, 145 yards of Cardinal Tate kind of like on busted coverages last week.
7:13But CD lamb, Chris, a lot of it, they did their thing.
7:16So I think Drake London will do the same.
7:19Yeah. Marlon Humphrey, a double DNP to open the week.
7:22We don't know about Friday's practice as of now, but I'm with you.
7:26Like, and Trey Hendrickson, by the way, a double DNP with a finger injury.
7:30And let's just say I've heard Max Crosby's name a lot more than Trey Hendrickson's name this season so far.
7:36And, you know, we drafted Drake London for Michael Pinnock's like for them to play together.
7:41We didn't draft Drake London in the second round to play with Tua Tunga-Vailoa, Jack Strand, Cooper Rush and those names.
7:47Yeah. Nico Collins is up next for you. So this is at the Tennessee Titans.
7:51I mean, this Titans offense, well, I should say defense has been very rough, but this Texans offense, we always talk about pre-snap motion.
7:59They use it as season high rates 76% of the times last week.
8:03And then Stroud has completed about 75% of his passes off that motion with more touchdowns and zero interceptions.
8:08I think this would be a pass first team.
8:11I've seen enough, you know, over five years of a sample that they cannot run the ball.
8:16They're not going to turn that thing around. Nico Collins and CJ Stroud are their two best players and they should just continually use them.
8:23They're projected for 22 and a half points, which is like rock solid kind of right in the middle there.
8:29And the Tennessee Titans corners, like they're trying a lot to Taylor Cordell thought I just don't think they're like that good, especially like his size and speed.
8:38I think stands out against each one of them for different reasons there.
8:42But Devante Smith, Dontavian Wicks, those guys were kind of dunking on these guys.
8:46And then Zay Flowers working over the middle yards after catch, which Nico Collins can do as well.
8:51He had a big game as well. So he's had 79 plus yards or a touchdown in all five career games against Tennessee.
8:58Wide receiver four overall finish in week 11 last year.
9:01I think Nico Collins would be a very strong second round pick for your redrafting today.
9:06Reeves noted the on motion stuff without motion. Stroud has completed only like 42% of his passes.
9:11And, you know, the sample size is large for both 89 and 62.
9:15So there's a staggering difference between both. I will say the Titans just overall have allowed 73% of the passes against them to be completed.
9:22I'm totally with you. Like typically in games where we see a seven and a half point advantage for one side, we
9:29think that's going to be a rushing environment. I'm not sure that that should be no such thing for the Texans.
9:35That should just, again, mean more funneled goodness for the passing attack.
9:39Yep. Next up, Michael Wilson. As your wide receiver seven.
9:42I mean, I like it. It's worth it based on what he's done this season.
9:46There were games where every single one of his catches have been off motion.
9:51And this is against the Detroit Lions. So talk to me because while the Lions have been giving up big plays down
9:57the field, this Cardinals offense actually has the lowest rate of explosives, both in the passing and rushing department in the league.
10:04This is more of a Michael Wilson thing. Since week 11 of last year, he only trails Puka, JSN, Chris Olave, and
10:10Amon Rossi and Brown in fancy points per game.
10:13We don't talk about Michael Wilson like that. I mean, those are like the five best wide receivers in the game pretty much.
10:20And then he's right there after them. He's the wide receiver six in usage and expected points this season as well.
10:26Like, why can't he completely go crazy? Especially against the secondary, you know?
10:30Just like last week, games on the line, they throw the ball to him on first, second, and fourth down within the five-yard line.
10:37Like, that's... They know what they got with Michael Wilson.
10:40I think that he's a good player. He's not a perfect player, but he's a very good player.
10:46And, you know, Detroit, they're just getting smoked. Wide receiver rooms facing the Lions are averaging 56 more yards per game in
10:52the game against the Lions versus their seasonal average.
10:55Like, that gap between their average versus the Lions is the biggest gap in the NFL.
11:00And, like, you could feel that Ted Rowe, McMillan, Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, all these guys have been going crazy.
11:06Can I pour some cold water on potentially the Cardinals not reaching their 24-and-a-half team total here?
11:11One, they just lost Paris Campbell at left tackle.
11:14Both their guards have been on the injury report.
11:16And Jacoby Brissett has just been brutal versus pressure so far this season.
11:20He's 25th in terms of passer rating, completing just 42% of his passes there, 3.7 yards per attempt.
11:25So, Jacoby at the end of last season was just on fire in these garbage time pressure situations.
11:31And he just stood tall and threw it down the field.
11:34It's not hitting nearly as good in that section of games so far this season.
11:39Yep. It's kind of like bad versus bad, but I think Michael Wilson's good, so I'll just leave it at that.
11:45I like it. Okay, we kind of already talked about Devontae Adams.
11:49Here he is as your wide receiver 8. You know, there haven't been great splits even this season when Pukunokua is in
11:55games versus out of games for Devontae Adams. But this is one of those matchups, like we said, as a boundary player.
12:02And he's still playing good. That those, like, alley-oop, late-hands type catches he should win on.
12:06Well, last week, he didn't have a great fantasy game, but the underlying numbers were still there.
12:12He was the wide receiver 10 in expected points.
12:14He had nine targets. I watched all of them.
12:17And he nearly had two explosives, including a touchdown that, like, just barely hit off his fingers.
12:22They weren't, like, drops. They were just, like, barely misses.
12:25I think Devontae Adams looks awesome on tape. He looks healthy.
12:28He looks better this year than he did last year, especially late in the season, like when, you know, his body was kind of breaking down.
12:36We should ride that. And I think the Bills could obviously move the ball on the Rams defense.
12:42And like you said, the Bills defense doesn't scare me at all.
12:45Extended week to get an extra day of rest for these veterans.
12:49Like, I'm expecting big games. Just the splits, real quick.
12:5218 games with Puka since last year. He's a wide receiver 16 on wide receiver 6 usage.
12:57Like, he's a positive regression candidate in that split.
12:59And wide receiver 6 usage with Puka Nakua is totally fine for me to believe in them.
13:05As a top, both of them top 12 wide receivers.
13:08Because I think Adams just looks better watching him move around right now.
13:11Yeah, I mean, and the team has a 29-point team total.
13:15Yeah. And the Bills up 25.5. I mean, that game has a 54.5 total, which is identical to what the Lions and the Cardinals have this weekend, too.
13:23Okay, you do have Justin Jefferson in here. Talk me through it.
13:27Why is he even potentially listed when he's been limited over the last two days and missed last week as well?
13:33Yeah, they have a week 6 bye. So, I initially thought he was going to miss this game.
13:38And then there was reports that he expects to go out there and play.
13:43He's been limited in practice. So, you know, if you don't get a full practice in, I kind of knock you down in the rankings a couple spots.
13:51You know, the Vikings offense hasn't, you know, been exactly crushing it as well.
13:55But neither has the Saints defense. So, if he's out there, like, you know, he's going to be, he's going to have a wide receiver 1 label.
14:03I just couldn't put him in, like, the elite wide receiver 1 status with, you know, the ankle injury and the way
14:10that Kyler Murray has been playing so far. And we typically like to cite fancy metrics and all that type of stuff.
14:16It's kind of impossible to do that with the Vikings passing offense so far this season because nothing has been sticky through four games.
14:24The other thing is Jordan Addison pops up on the injury report was a DNP and then limited with a new hamstring injury.
14:30It happened late in last week as well. Like, that's just another thing where I will write words.
14:36You guys can read the words. And then on Sunday, sit start show solo edition for the back half.
14:42So, we'll be talking about both these guys. Yeah, this sit start show is a bit different than the shit star show.
14:48Yeah, well, I can do both. That's just Saquon Barkley this season.
14:52This is a shit star. Okay. Let's go through Chris Alave.
14:55He is your wide receiver 10. This is against the Minnesota Vikings defense.
14:59I mean, this is a true, hey, the per throw stuff might be bad, but they throw it so much and they
15:05drop back 49 times per game that that's going to feel a lot different than if the Saints only dropped back about 30 times per contest.
15:13Yeah, I mean, this is about as far down as I could push Chris Alave for how good he's been.
15:19Seven game streak of at least 15 half PPR points, which is wild.
15:23He's wide receiver six on wide receiver two overall usage.
15:26Tyler Shuck just like a drop back king right now.
15:29You know, it's just you're on your backup left tackle who's been extremely bad.
15:33And now you have to sort out all the wonky stuff that, you know, the Vikings defense throws.
15:39And, you know, it's still an inexperienced offense in general.
15:42You know, Minnesota's allowed the 19 most fancy points to wide receivers.
15:45That was largely because Christian Watson went crazy on on them back in week one.
15:50Now there's a lot of similarities between Watson and Alave.
15:53So, you know, he can still have a huge game for this Chris Alave.
15:57But since then, they haven't allowed a top 30 fantasy wide receiver and the only projected for 19 points.
16:03Yeah, like the Vikings defense when passes are complete against them like they were against with Christian Watson.
16:08They go for over 13 yards per completion, but then they only allow a league low 51% completion rate.
16:14So, I mean, are we just not going to get exactly what we say with the Saints that, hey, they can't run the ball.
16:21They're going to get set up in third and long situations.
16:24And when they hit them, those passes are going to go for 13, 14, 15, 20, 25 yards.
16:30Yep. And you just have to keep doing that over and over and over again.
16:34Yeah, it's rough. Yeah. Yeah, it's real tough. Okay.
16:37Let's talk Garrett Wilson. Still a tier. This is against the Cleveland Browns.
16:41The Browns are playing more man coverage than anyone in the NFL right now.
16:45And Garrett Wilson typically doesn't see a lot of it.
16:48But when he does, he's been targeted nearly 40% of the time with 4.0 yards per route run.
16:53And Adnan Mitchell has already been ruled out for this game.
16:57Same thing with Brees Hall. So it's just, you know, there's only a couple of guys they can throw the ball to.
17:03If you guys hear man coverage, zone coverage, just remember league-wide trend.
17:07I look at this over the last couple of years.
17:10Against man coverage, wide receivers have a higher target share.
17:13And then in zone coverage, that's when tight ends and running backs are targeted more, which makes sense because if you have
17:19a wide receiver against man coverage that you trust, the quarterback is going to give them the try immediately.
17:25There's nothing really to read out. So man coverage typically means good things for fantasy wide receivers.
17:30That said, Denzel Ward's having like an awesome season, you know.
17:33So good. He's been really good. They trust him.
17:36He kept team acted two catches for 17 yards a couple weeks.
17:40So this is like good versus good, ball up top.
17:43Let's roll this thing out. I think Garrett Wilson's going to have moments.
17:47Denzel Ward's going to have some moments. The Browns defense is very well coached.
17:51They've got great players kind of at all three levels at this point.
17:55And, you know, this kind of like a ball, ball up top.
17:58So fringe wide receiver one. We're not talking tight ends here.
18:02And I know you have them in your rankings.
18:04Just overall thoughts on Kenan Sadiq. Since I guess on paper, he would be the second best pass catcher on this team.
18:11Yeah, I have him as my tight end 14, which I think is a little bit higher than others.
18:16Last week, you know, they had 32 snaps on offense.
18:19Like you can't completely throw that game out. But, you know, he had four targets.
18:24He played 69% of the snaps, 67% of the routes.
18:27And then, you know, two weeks before that, he was the tight end four.
18:31So it's still the same situation with Brees Hall, Adnan Mitchell out.
18:35So I don't trust him. But I think you can throw him out there if you're, you know, hurt.
18:40Here's a stat for you from the worksheet. The Jets are favored for the first time in 25 games.
18:46They are better. They are better. Like even Frank Reich was dialing up some screens to Kenan Sadiq.
18:51Now, they weren't completed. And, you know, their defense, as we saw against the Bears, and that might be a Bears thing,
18:58is the worst kind of fancy defense where they just allow first downs and then just they get the clock draining over and over again.
19:06But, you know, I don't believe that the Browns will be able to do that against them.
19:11Let's put it that way. Yes. Okay. Christian Watson is up next for you.
19:15Is this A tier still? I'm assuming so. Yeah, I think so.
19:18Yeah. And both of the Packers wide receivers are back to back here for you.
19:23Against the Chicago Bears. Jordan Love was pressured at the season lowest rate last week.
19:27Now, some might say that's because they have two new starting guards.
19:31More likely, it's because they threw the ball within 2.24 seconds on average.
19:35So, what are you expecting here against the Bears who, since week one, have kept opposing offenses to very, very low scoring points?
19:42Yeah. Some interesting games the Bears have been playing in.
19:45So, I think their defense is better than we thought and not as good as what they showed statistically through the first four weeks.
19:52They're probably closer to average, is how I would say it.
19:55But Dennis Allen's a good coach. He's been doing this for a very long time.
20:00When they have their top corners out there, their defense looks a whole lot better.
20:04Packers only projected for 22 points. That's 16th. They're slight home dogs in this one.
20:09Christian Watson had three games against the Bears, and they all happened really late in the season.
20:14He had 36 yards with a touchdown in the loss in the playoffs.
20:18A 17-yard performance in week 16. And then finished with a wide receiver five overall in week 14.
20:23So, you know, the same up and down kind of nature here.
20:27His involvement in the offense is just way clearer right now.
20:30He's going to be their primary red zone threat.
20:33And, yeah, I feel fine about it. There's been other weeks going into the week where I'm like, this is an awesome spot.
20:40I would say it's a little bit less so for Christian Watson, but he deserves like an upside wide receiver two label.
20:46And I know there was a bit of a letdown last week, but the wide receivers didn't even see 50% of the
20:53targets in last week's game for the Packers. They, you know, threw it to the running backs a bit more, including Marshawn Lloyd.
21:00Obviously, the tight ends, they got more and more involved.
21:03They went like heavy 12 personnel instead of getting Sky Moore out there or whoever at the third wide receiver spot.
21:09Against Chicago, they are playing single high coverage, the fifth highest rate at around 63% of the time.
21:14Yeah. So to me, that's where we can get like the Christian Watson and the Matthew Goldens and the big plays down the field.
21:21Yeah. And then quickly on Matthew Golden is a good point in the single high stuff.
21:26Dennis Allen's going to do some kind of crazier things and leave his guys on islands, which kind of opens up the
21:33explosive play, which Jordan Love can connect on this.
21:36Matthew Golden and Christian Watson have the same exact target projection and receiving yards projection in the betting markets at this point.
21:42The difference is Christian Watson gets, you know, a lot more manufactured stuff at like the five yard line that Matthew Golden
21:49probably shouldn't because of the size difference. And that's the primary difference.
21:52But in terms of like consistency, I mean, Matthew Golden's a wide receiver 17, a wide receiver 10 usage.
21:58I think that's going to come down as Tucker Kraft ramps up as Josh Jacobs comes back, which we're still waiting news on that part.
22:05But look, man, he's a good player and he's getting fed the ball.
22:09So I think that he's a beat. I'll put him in the beat here because there's a slight difference between the two.
22:16But it's I feel good about Matthew Golden. All right.
22:19Good to know that there's a distinction here. Both were fantastic picks in fantasy football.
22:23And I, you know, we talked all summer about the evolution in Christian Watson's game.
22:28I think you saw that last week, too, that a lot of more breaking routes like closer to the sticks and all
22:35that type of stuff versus these are just full field crossers or full field downfield targets.
22:39So it's been cool to see. Next is a flowers.
22:42Also constantly dealing with an injury at this point.
22:45This is against the Atlanta Falcons who continue to be ferocious on defense despite losing their top two edge rushers.
22:51And most notably, Zay Flowers is going to most likely, I would say 95 percent, be playing with his backup quarterback here in Tyler Huntley.
22:58This is assuming that's going to be Snoop Huntley out there.
23:02Zay Flowers hasn't practiced that much with a foot injury.
23:05I don't think it's like really that big of a deal.
23:08I would say I have a lot of faith in Declan Doyle for like keeping the floor stable.
23:13And they do a lot of easy completion stuff with Zay Flowers and a lot of the crossing routes like that's where we've had the big explosive plays.
23:22I don't think that, you know, Snoop Huntley is going to hit the crossers quite with the same timing and accuracy as Lamar Jackson has.
23:29That said, the Falcons have allowed the fourth most passing yards per game, 277 of them.
23:34Chris Olave, 116 yards. Christian Watson, 96 yards. Ted Rowe McMillan, 101 yards.
23:38They're just projected for 20 points. And you have to give Derek Henry like a big chunk of those 20 points in general.
23:45So that's why Zay Flowers might be coming in a little bit lower than like how I'd want to rank this.
23:51But I think it's right. Just schematically, the Ravens have been doing a really good job of force feeding Zay Flowers the football.
23:58Like they make it look easy getting their best player the ball.
24:02We've talked about it where they would line up in 13 personnel and then motion Durham Smythe, who is now on injured reserve.
24:08Yeah. All the way across the field. And then that would bump the coverage completely over to the point that just a linebacker is sitting over Zay Flowers.
24:17And it's like, oh, yeah, that's how you get a guy in the football.
24:21And so hopefully they can do that. I think they signed Nick Vanette to maybe take the spot of Durham Smythe.
24:27Those are Spider-Man. Yes. Winning at each other. On the football 301 show I do with Nate.
24:32Nate drew up that exact play that you're talking about with X's and O's.
24:37Like if you guys want more on that and like the little things that Declan Doyle is doing that's different than, you know, Todd Monken has.
24:44Nate's got all those details. Okay, let's talk through Malik neighbors who I actually did not mention on our.
24:50Injury list to open this episode, but he is like self-reporting injuries, which is totally fine.
24:55You know, across the league, he seems to be the most pessimistic about his injuries in comparison to like every other NFL
25:01player who's like it's only a flesh wound. I'm going to play through it.
25:06Yeah. Again, that is totally fine. He's coming off of a significant injury, but he is like, you know, putting even more
25:12doubt in my brain that on certain weeks he might just shockingly not play.
25:16Yeah. Yeah. I think it's like another, you know, example of the young modern athlete just gonna be way more open.
25:23And, you know, like, that's just how things are going to be.
25:26And I think with neighbors specifically, like he's used to being the best athlete in the world.
25:31And if he's kind of feels like he's not that he probably is like, what is going on here?
25:37And, you know, I think there's like some truth to that.
25:40He was really good at the catch point last week, broke a couple of tackles as well.
25:45I, we still have Jameis Winston concerns watching back the film there.
25:49But he looks better last week than he'd had the weeks before that one.
25:53The matchup's just outstanding. You know, I, I really liked Aronte Jones, the new defensive coordinator.
25:58They just don't have the corners right now. It's kind of as simple as that.
26:03And they've been a big time pass funnel, eighth most passing yards allowed, 27th most rushing yards allowed.
26:08Now the Giants are going to like, you know, want to run the ball no matter what.
26:13But maybe they learned by halftime, like just throw the ball to my neighbors because, you know, it's Sam was still in
26:20the boys and they can't guard him. Yeah, I will say, I mean, Aronte Jones is going to do his best to
26:26understand and mask his corners by blitzing and creating pressure.
26:29And Jameis Winston completed nine of 18 passes with an interception against pressure last week.
26:34So, yeah, I mean, if you get after James and by the way, some of even those completions and some of them more could have been intercepted.
26:42Like they were horrific stuff. Jameis Winston played a horrible football game.
26:45He really did. And I understand a lot of people are saying, this is great.
26:50We get our downfield passer back. Not really, man.
26:53So I'm, I am a bit nervous for Jameis in, in this contest, but we'll see.
26:57Like you said, if they can attack those outside guys, that's where he's at.
27:02I'm, I think I'm a lot lower on neighbors than the market is.
27:05I mean, you know, five spots, but I feel good after what you said.
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27:48The crown is yours. Parker Washington is up next as your wide receiver 17.
27:52The Jaguars this season only have 14 total dropbacks in the fourth quarter.
27:56That has led to only 5.2 fantasy points in the fourth quarter for their quarterback in Trevor Lawrence.
28:01So any games like last week when it's what one catch for 17 yards or whatever it is, that's a part of
28:08it when you only have 24 dropbacks per game.
28:10Yeah, after you said that, I was like, this is kind of like the Devontae Smith from a couple years ago where like we know he's good.
28:18He can make plays underneath. He can make plays at the catch point.
28:22He's going to score some touchdowns and then there's just going to be games where Jacksonville is just beating everybody up.
28:29And, you know, that could easily be them this week because the Eagles are projected for 17 points.
28:34So they're more than a touchdown favorite at this point.
28:37The team total is still really good. Parker Washington is still really good.
28:41I still think he's like the first read in the offense for more plays than anyone else.
28:46But, you know, doesn't guarantee that you're going to be a good fantasy asset.
28:50So I've seen some comments. The YouTube commenters are saying that we rank Parker Washington way too high every week.
28:56And so far they have been right. He's the wide receiver 24 and wide receiver 27 usage this season.
29:02And we've kind of had him parked in the top 20 for most of the time.
29:07I feel fine with that. Like I there's only so many good players on good offenses and he's one of them.
29:13And, you know, I'll take my chances. Yeah, there's also going to be a point where I think the Jaguars will have
29:20to put like the pedal to the metal a little bit more.
29:23I highly doubt it's going to be the early game across the pond where there's seven and a half point favorites and all that type of stuff.
29:31But at some point they will. And I think Parker Washington is going to be a huge, huge, huge beneficiary of that.
29:38But I will say Quinnia Mitchell had a limited participation on Wednesday, but he was back to full practice on Thursday.
29:44That's what I was searching for here. But at the same time, I mean, what?
29:49P. Wash is playing about 48 percent of the snaps in the slot.
29:52And, you know, a lot of lesser talented wide receivers have been getting after Cooper DeGene in the slot this season.
29:59Yeah. Cooper DeGene was also banged up in last week's game.
30:02Jonathan Grenard, the edge rusher that was kind of supposed to save the day.
30:06He hasn't practiced with an ankle injury. He's not going to play it in players like Jalen Carter.
30:12That's supposed to be an all pro player. He's he's playing through an injury.
30:16He's not an all pro caliber player at this point.
30:19Zach Bond's been on the injury report and missed some time as well.
30:23So, yeah, there's a lot of, you know, injury updates in the Philadelphia defense right now that we'll have, you know, for Sunday.
30:30Denver Broncos, Jalen Waddle, the wide receiver 18. This is at the L.A.
30:33Chargers. Sean Payton is back calling plays. Hayden, do you think it's going to make a difference?
30:39Uh. Maybe at the margins, but I think they got a little bit of quarterback situation brewing.
30:44Do you think the margins is just striking the fear of God into Bo Nix that his voice is the one in
30:50the headset Payton's versus his buddy in Davis Webbs?
30:53And maybe that will force Bo Nix to actually throw the dig and the in breakers and those concepts.
30:59I think there's some truth to that. Do you think that Bo Nix was the one that said, I want Davis Webbs to be the play caller?
31:07Because I saw a report. I think it was Benjamin Albright was saying that Sean Payton did not want to give out play calling.
31:14Oh, I heard that a long time ago. Yeah.
31:17Yeah. So who made that call? This was kind of forced on him.
31:20Yeah. So did Bo Nix talk to ownership or Bo Nix talk to the like, it has to be Bo Nix, right?
31:27Interesting. I mean, we're in pure speculation zone here.
31:30For sure. I also wonder at times, and again, this is pure speculation.
31:34I have no information on this, that sometimes ownership can have relationships with like certain people in the building.
31:39And maybe ownership had a relationship with Davis Webb.
31:42Yeah. Or someone in that pipeline did. And so they're like, hey, we don't want to lose this guy.
31:48And if he's not calling plays, we're going to lose him to another team.
31:52Yeah. And that would be the biggest. Who cares?
31:55Davis. Well, I mean, that's like, I mean, you know, you got Davis Webb on steroids calling plays.
32:00Sean Payton. Totally fair. You think he's going to be better than John Payton?
32:04Like, really? Like, is that what? Is that? It's totally fair.
32:07Just your thoughts on Jalen Waddle here. I mean, look, Pat Bryant is out.
32:12We have seen Pat Bryant have one or two screens per game.
32:15I do wonder, like, to use your phrase on the margins, if this can help out Jalen Waddle at all.
32:21My Sean Payton thing, though, is maybe just goes back to like the pure basics with Bo Nix, where it's, hey, we
32:28are running a bunch of stuff at the line of scrimmage in terms of called screens, even getting like Marvin Mims in the backfield.
32:35And hopefully now that's Jalen Waddle instead. And then as the defense gets sucked in, we are then throwing over top of you on these pure shot points.
32:43Yes. And last year, I remember they would have these kind of dig concepts.
32:48And a lot of everyone here is like the backside dig.
32:51How they were kind of running it last year is kind of like the first read was the dig.
32:57And I think that's where like Bo Nix isn't having to read things out.
33:01He's like, this is where the ball is supposed to go to.
33:04And kind of right now, some of those checkdowns are like high lows on the player in the flats.
33:10And he would just hit the checkdowns. Like, you know, I think there will be upgrades.
33:15You know, I think I do think that Sean Payton is a better play caller than Davis Webb.
33:20That is that is my official stance here. But Waddle wide receiver 37 expected half PPR points, 21 percent target share.
33:26That was a lot lower than I thought it was going to be.
33:30I think that's mainly a Bo Nix thing. I think it will get sorted out eventually.
33:35The Chargers defense. You know, I don't think they're they're very good as we've seen.
33:40Okay, we'll move on. Next up in your rankings is Jamison Williams at the Arizona Cardinals.
33:44Your wide receiver 19. It was a solid week for Jamison Williams.
33:48He's not facing a Caleb Evans, but. You know, maybe like the.
33:52Instead of the 64th right cornerback in the NFL, maybe the 63rd.
33:55Yes, week. His his week would have been a lot different if he tracked that ball along the sideline a little bit of football.
34:02Let's catch the football. And then the Jamo box scores are going to look a lot better.
34:07They had some like comeback receptions to him screen route a little quick out.
34:12So like there's like some, you know, not fully manufactured touches there, but like, you know, some first read stuff to kind
34:18of keep his floor ready to go. Look, they're predict for 30 points.
34:22The Cardinals haven't defended anyway. There's been so many coverage bust in Arizona and, you know, double moves, you know, flea flicker, like you name it.
34:30Like that type of stuff is very ripe against the Arizona Cardinals.
34:34So you have to start Jamison Williams. Okay. Moving on.
34:37DK Metcalf against the Indianapolis Colts. I mean, DK is an interesting one.
34:40Hayden, like. Always is. Always is. So like go through.
34:43Okay. We can look at his season long fantasy status right now and look at him as the wide receiver 35, which is rough.
34:51But the last two weeks have been 10.6 and 14 fancy points per contest.
34:55The thing is on throws 10 plus or more yards on the field.
34:59Aaron Rodgers has completed just 37% of his throws.
35:01That's only better than Malik Willis. These Steelers games.
35:04Come down to. If Aaron Rodgers connects on those passes, like the two or three times the flick of the wrist, if those are completed.
35:12And yes, there's going to be to Roman Wilson in the slot this week, but they can also be to DK Metcalf.
35:18He's a wide receiver 10 and targets wide receiver 18 in expected points.
35:22So he's as positive regression as it gets. We've kind of felt that the last, you know, two weeks where I was saying the same thing.
35:30I don't trust it. Like DK Metcalf is like just straight up not having a great season.
35:35And Aaron Rodgers on some of these kind of downfield passes, it's kind of like he's to me, it's like almost like proving a point.
35:42He's like throwing the ball up and then immediately like looking at the sideline on a couple of these.
35:48I think that Michael Pittman not playing for the next couple of weeks, like is going to matter for DK Metcalf.
35:54Like I think that that's a drop off to like Jeremy Bernard and stuff, just because, you know, Bernard and Roman Wilson have made very critical mistakes.
36:02They made some plays as well, but it's made some very critical mistakes, where Rogers kind of has no choice.
36:08He's got to throw the ball to DK Metcalf.
36:11And then he's going to face sauce Gardner and sauce Gardner is just like, he's had a DK Metcalf season at corner,
36:18very up and down, can make some plays. It's not moving around completely the same.
36:22And what Metcalf has 60 pounds on sauce Gardner and one-on-one coverage.
36:26I didn't think some of these like 50, 50 balls to the sideline.
36:30I think, you know, I like his odds. Let's go to the opposite.
36:34And Josh Downs is next for you. Is this still B tier or C tier?
36:38Um, let's take a, I think he's B tier still.
36:41Um, look, last week's stunk and like, that's definitely possible.
36:44Um, but I think that we're going to find like a middle ground between like the expectations that people had for Josh
36:51Downs and like the reality of the situation is they really desperately need Josh Downs to be a focal point of the offense.
36:57And I think I trust Shane Sykin to, to figure that out.
37:01The downside with him is always going to be if Jonathan Taylor's rolling, like they're just going to ride Jonathan Taylor and
37:08it's going to be a little bit harder for Downs to have big time explosives in this offense.
37:13Like we showed the Daniel Jones passing chart and the recap and the stats versus film.
37:18It's like, that's what it's going to look like.
37:21Everything's going to be consolidated underneath. That's also where Josh Downs gets the rock.
37:25So I have a more aggressive ranking than consensus by quite a big margin here.
37:29I feel, I feel good about that. I will say I am quite nervous of the growing trend of Daniel Jones against pressure, like against the commanders.
37:37He completed just four of 12 passes for 40 yards with an interception and a fumble.
37:42Yeah. The fumbling has been a constant issue for him.
37:45Like he gets ragdoll effect and I'm a bit nervous with like TJ Watt and the other edge rushers like screaming to
37:52get to the point of his drop back. And then we're just, I mean, again, it's not like he's going to fumble
37:58five times in this game, but those could be some, I think really critical moments to kind of sway the contest.
38:05There's also injuries in the Steelers secondary right now.
38:07Jamil Dean hasn't practiced with an ankle injury. He's going to miss Jalen Ramsey playing through that wrist injury to Sean Elliott safety.
38:14There's, you know, not fully healthy defense right now.
38:17Okay. Mike Evans. I'll continue on beats here. Unless you tell me otherwise, this is at the Seattle Seahawks on throws 10
38:23or more yards on the field against Seattle opposing quarterbacks completed just 33% of their passes, which is a league low two touchdowns in six interceptions.
38:31I can't wait for this one. I mean, yes, 49ers and what they're doing, despite some bare bones in some spots versus
38:38the Seattle secondary and defense that looks better with Nick M and worry back.
38:42Definitely. So, but I think the Nick man worry presence kind of like forces you to kind of throw the ball up
38:49to the sideline where you're going to take your chances against like Josh Jobe, for example, who's gotten beat a couple of
38:55times, like Terry McBoran in a very similar role to Mike Evans has, has got them.
39:00So, you know, it's, it's a very difficult matchup.
39:03It's almost like difficult more so for like, you know, Christian McCaffrey and George Kittle and those guys Debo Samuel.
39:09And like, I think 50, 50 balls to the perimeter to Mike Evans.
39:12Like, I think that's, that's how I would try to move the ball against Seattle here.
39:17Not that we're, you know, moving George Kittle and CMC down very far in rankings, but I think the rest of the
39:24defense is better than the Mike Evans matchup in particular.
39:27And he's going to have some big blow up teams soon.
39:30Okay. Romeo jobs is next. Is that the first name in C tier or are you going to keep going?
39:36That's fair. Okay. I think that's okay. This is against the Las Vegas Raiders.
39:40I mean, Romeo Dobbs lining up out wide 94% of the time.
39:44The Raiders have though allowed a league low 45% catch rate to outside wide receivers.
39:48This defense is playing quite good. I think it's Rod Leonard.
39:52Rob Leonard is the coordinator. Doing a fantastic job and they've only allowed four catches of 20 plus yards all season long.
39:58I was new a lot of like strictly NFL, like X's nose content.
40:02And they're just all gushing over the Raiders defense.
40:05Um, so I, I believe it, uh, Romeo Dobbs though, his, his usage is like in a much better spot, uh, recently, especially last week.
40:12And I think that's like Matt Collins leaving. I do think that matters to some degree.
40:17Romeo Dobbs timing on things seems a little bit better, uh, after like, like you really couldn't explain the first two, three weeks of the season.
40:25Like that was like complete bonker stuff. Uh, but yeah, fourth and three slant win one-on-one, uh, fade balls in the, in
40:32the end zone skinny posts, kind of like a first read target, uh, for, for Drake May.
40:37So I feel the offense kind of catering towards Romeo Dobbs.
40:40Then we have like the Romandri Stevenson injury that we're kind of tracking.
40:44So we're just like removing bodies at this point last week, he was wide receiver 11 and expected points had a top 12 finish.
40:51Um, so I think he's startable. DJ Moore is up next.
40:54He's in some people's rankings. He's out of others for you.
40:58He's in, but I'll say it Hayden. This is the worst type of fancy football asset at the moment.
41:03And that's nothing wrong with DJ Moore, like of him as an individual.
41:07It's the players and he's among others where they start games.
41:10So they're in their starting lineups because they're on good offenses.
41:14And then when they only play about 25% of snaps, it ruins you.
41:18Uh, and that's happened twice so far this season for him.
41:21And it's also limiting someone like Keon Coleman, who, if we knew DJ Moore would be out, then Keon Coleman, like legit might be in this range.
41:29Yeah. This one is difficult because it's Monday night football.
41:32So we only have one practice. He was a DNP in that practice.
41:36I did see, uh, a bunch of players like dancing with their hands up and DJ Moore had one hand up in
41:42the Gatorade bottle in the other hand and happened to be the shoulder injury.
41:47So, you know, if you want to read into that, I guess I would assume he's going to miss just because it was like a setback.
41:54Um, and I think I would have Keon Coleman somewhere in this range.
41:58Like I, I, I've liked the Keon Coleman stuff.
42:01So I'll, I will have a lot more notes on this situation in my writeup and Sunday morning stuff.
42:07Just go, go check that stuff out. But we, and go, go listen to the bill section for stats versus film where
42:13I think Keon Coleman is kind of coming on.
42:16So more to come. So they Keon Coleman ran basically identical styling of routes to DJ Moore when he, when he stepped
42:23in and in both the times that DJ has missed 70 plus percent of snaps.
42:27Again, Keon's been very, very good, uh, with his production in those contests.
42:31Okay. Next are both bears wide receivers and Luther burden and Roman duns.
42:35Hey, this is against the Packers. It's with Tyson Baygent at quarterback and the bears are one and a half point favorites
42:41here on the road, a team total of 23 and a half.
42:45Kyle, a nun guy I'm guessing is not going to play on the turf toe, uh, injury.
42:50And then, uh, Deioner Swift also has his own ailments going on.
42:54So, you know, it's one of these teams where it's going to be impossible to kind of, you know, figure who's going to score and go off.
43:02All of these players are beyond capable and that's just going to leave floors lower than what we'd want in this offense
43:08until like this team is projected for 28 points, which I think by the end of the season, this could be one
43:15of these like lions type of offenses where they're always projected for 28 points.
43:19We're just not there yet. They're projected for 23 and a half points in green Bay on this one, Luther burden gets more of the easy stuff.
43:27I think Roma duns a aside from the catch point stuff, like he to be still like moves very well.
43:33And I think that there is going to be better days coming last week.
43:37He had, he had a good game. Um, but you know, I'm trying to like smooth out the averages with Colson, love
43:44on Luther burden, Roma, dude, Deioner Swift, Calvin and guys, it's going to be whack-a-mole the entire season.
43:49Exactly. Like what if smoothing out the averages is kind of misguided?
43:53Like that kind of gives you a wrong perspective of it as we go along where, like you said, it's going to
44:00be, Hey, this guy's going to be the top guy for this week.
44:03Then he's second and he's third. And then it's going to be third to second and then down here over and over and over again.
44:11But, but if I, if I like one week have Roma duns days, my wife, I hear you 12.
44:17And then now he's my wider receiver 40 people.
44:19I'm gonna be like, what is going on there?
44:22It's like, I hear you. And Ben Johnson's like, he's such a mastermind to such a level that he's doing counters and
44:29like kind of going against what you expect, what he's going to do.
44:32It's like these guys are boom, bust wide receiver threes.
44:35There it is. Counterpoint Hayden. If you did have them 20 spots different and that's exactly how they finished.
44:41Just imagine what that would do for your rankings.
44:44I worry about the opposite. And now all of a sudden I'm way off.
44:48Yeah. But it's all about winning. Hayden. No, one's going to care if you finish fifth.
44:53They're going to care if you finish first, you know, just like fancy football.
44:57If I get top 10, I'm coming. I don't know.
45:00My first time doing this, come on. The advice that we give the people about their fancy league.
45:05There's 200 people coming top 10 out of 200 people is good.
45:09That's like me and fancy premier league right now.
45:12Anyways, next. Carnell Tate. A career day for Carnell Tate in week four.
45:16And now he gets to Houston Texans. You know, I think there's been a lot of national conversation of, well, the Texans
45:22have been a bit of a letdown. I also say, hey, they face the Josh Allen Bills, the Joe Burrow Bengals and the Dak Prescott Dallas Cowboys.
45:30So this is a bit different with Cam Ward and the Titans.
45:34Definitely. So I'm very much looking forward to JC Latham against Will Anderson, who should absolutely be the defensive player of the year right now.
45:41D'Amico's calling plays now as well. I think that might matter because there's been like some miscommunication issues like over the middle.
45:48And, you know, maybe that there's something with D'Amico Ryan said, all right, screw it.
45:52I'm spending all my time on defense now, which will be helpful.
45:56As for Carnell Tate, the expected points, the, you know, the target share numbers, all of that looks very good for him.
46:03He's the wide receiver 28 and wide receiver 20 usage.
46:06He's top 10 in target share. You had the stat from from JJ.
46:09That is what like one of the best target shares through four weeks in the modern era.
46:15So like there's good things happening. He had a double move against Kyle Hamilton that drew a defensive pass interference.
46:21We had some scrambled real stuff. The rest of it's still, I think, work in progress.
46:25And, you know, now you do work in progress up against Derek Stingley.
46:29Kamari Lasseter is also much better at corner than, you know, how he's played so far.
46:34You know, they're projected for 15 points. So I don't want to get too carried away with the Carnell Tate stuff.
46:40Kamari Lasseter, I think, leads the NFL in terms of penalty yardage at 60 so far.
46:45So that also doesn't help us with fancy points.
46:48Yeah. Okay. This is the first Bengals wide receiver that you have ranked.
46:52Let's talk through just the Bengals wide receivers right now, because we've actually gotten some updates during this recording.
46:57Okay. So Zach Taylor says Jamar Chase remains in concussion protocol and he's questionable for week five.
47:02T Higgins will also right now be questionable. I think that's with like a neck and adductor groin.
47:08Yeah. Adductor. And then Colby Young is also questionable.
47:11So that leads us to Dante Myers, the fleet foot, fast juice man himself.
47:15But he's a very different styling of a player than Jamar Chase and T Higgins.
47:19Yeah. So this is about the range. I would park him if both players were out.
47:24I think if one of them are in the Myers stuff becomes a little bit harder to kind of fit in.
47:30And I like that, like, you know, as a first and 10, three minutes left, they're trying to win the game.
47:37They're down five or whatever it was. And like, they threw a back shoulder ball to Dante Myers.
47:42Like I was like, that was, you know, that was interesting.
47:45They didn't have to do that. He had a third and 16 crossing route.
47:49And then I think he's got plenty of speed to the point where if like Jamar Chase doesn't play, I think you
47:56can do some of the quick hitting stuff with Dante Myers and kind of live with the results.
48:01But like, he's an absolute no namer that the Bengals have interested in.
48:05I think that there's still a lot of, you know, ironing out the kinks there in terms of like timing, landmarks, all that type of stuff.
48:13Like the usual stuff with a young player. So, you know, you're playing with fire, but at the same time, the Dolphins haven't stopped anybody in the secondary.
48:21Correct. And they're projected for 24 and a half points.
48:24Mike Kisicki can be an awesome start, but Mike Kisicki can't get 14 targets in a game.
48:30And Joe Burrow drops back so many times because they have not, you know, they haven't ran the ball well at all.
48:36And we got rid of kind of like the under center BS stuff.
48:40And they said that we're going to do the Joe Burrow thing.
48:44And Joe Burrow thing usually means targets to his wide receivers.
48:47Yeah, here's a crazy stat from the worksheet on throws within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.
48:52The Dolphins have allowed a 90.5% completion rate. 67 of 74.
48:56Whoa. Yeah. And, you know, if Dante Myers is the wire receiver two and snaps, I bet he gets five, six targets.
49:02Yeah. Yeah. His floor is probably higher and maybe his ceiling is lower.
49:06Is that like this kind of take one to house?
49:09And he was a shoestring away from doing that this past week.
49:13He's fast. This team also has a week six by.
49:16So maybe. And again, it's the Dolphins. Like maybe that's a factor in the chase and T Higgins stuff.
49:21But maybe it's not like it's tough to know.
49:24My read would be for T Higgins. Yes, because like that's a groin injury.
49:28You don't want to have a setback. And again, you're going to win.
49:32If Jamar, it's concussion protocol. You're either clear it or you don't.
49:36And it's typically around the 50-50 proposition there. So I think if Jamar Chase is clear, they're going to start them.
49:42But if he's not, then it's out of their control.
49:45I am legit having to start Dante Myers in a week.
49:48I hope so. I hope it's fun. Okay. Next, you have Stefan Diggs.
49:52And by the sounds of it, Stefan Diggs is going to miss this game.
49:56Yeah, I think so. He has not practiced for what?
49:59The second straight day. Meanwhile, the guy who has missed practices recently in Terry McLaurin is suited up for this contest.
50:06Hayden, the commanders are also rotating for wide receivers.
50:08If Diggs misses, Antonio Williams becomes very intriguing to me.
50:11Okay. I want you to take over the Antonio Williams stuff because I have not watched his targets back-to-back this season.
50:18And this is one where just before we're coming alive, I saw Diggs wasn't going to practice.
50:23So give me the Antonio Williams. Where would you generally rank him expectations?
50:27What's his role? That type of thing. Well, one, I would have Terry at the top of this if he's playing.
50:33The thing that, I mean, Diggs is almost purely a slot player here.
50:37And then they've been using Trelon on the outside.
50:39They've been using Deami Brown on the outside. And then Tony Williams also on the outside.
50:44So he's one of these guys that when he entered the league, he is faster than I expected.
50:50Because I kind of anticipated him to be more of a power slot type player or, you know, find space versus zone type player.
50:57And yet his routes on the outside, when you do watch them, I mean, there's some juice there.
51:02Yeah. I think as the season goes along, that wide receiver room is going to condense.
51:07And then Tony Williams should be rostered in all your leagues because he's one of the post by rookie candidates.
51:13Yeah. He was used as like the kind of get him a bunch of targets underneath role in college.
51:19But he has 4-4-1 speed. So that's where like, you know, the college stuff could be lying to what his role is going to be.
51:26And that happens from time to time transitioning up.
51:29So, yeah, someone to keep your eye on. Chico Cuanko is also out there.
51:33He's back, you know, if anyone has any interest.
51:36Like with all these guys as well, we haven't heard his name the entire season.
51:40The commanders are my sneaky offense of this week.
51:43Okay. I like that. They're only projected for 23 points.
51:46But I think a big part of that is, you know, they've had to get to, I think they have the longest
51:53third down and necessary to get first downs in the NFL so far.
51:56But New York is allowing five yards per carry to running backs.
52:00And so that might allow them to, you know, stay in front of the change, stay on time, stay in rhythm.
52:06And I think David Blau has done a pretty dang good job.
52:10I agree. In like the game and a half that he's able to have a normal offense so far this season.
52:16Speaking of longest, the longest injury report of the year.
52:19Have you seen what their injury report looks like?
52:22If not, we'll put them in there. There's like 28 names on the list.
52:26It's, you know, it's very Belichickian. So don't all of you that skipped ahead on the timestamps with Stefan Diggs as wide
52:33receiver 29, just like take that for what it is.
52:36This was more of just a commander's wide receiver conversation.
52:39Yes. Okay. Devon Valle is next as wide receiver 30.
52:42We talked about it with Chris Olave earlier. And Valle, because they dropped back four or nine times, is good for six
52:48or seven targets a game, it feels like. He is.
52:51He's the wide receiver 17 in usage in the eight games since he became a full-time player in week 12 last year.
52:58We don't treat him like he has that volume, but he does.
53:01I think that he's a fine enough player, good at the catch point.
53:05And, you know, it's just the Minnesota Vikings defense, man.
53:08It just makes me so nervous. So I dropped him down like a full, full, full tier for where he's produced and his usage has indicates for us.
53:17I would also say one of the Saints' problems in general is their tight ends can't block.
53:22Like, Oscar Delp, he's a rookie. He's trying out there, but he's not up to snuff.
53:27And Jawan Johnson's never been a good blocker. It's like, that becomes a very big deal against the Vikings because you kind
53:33of have to have your, unless you put six offensive linemen out there, you need your defense, your tight ends to block defensive tackles one-on-one.
53:41And they can't. Like, that's like one of the big issues.
53:44And that's going to get magnified against the Vikings.
53:47So I took big teardrops for Chris Olave and Vele, which is funny because, you know, there's still wider two for 10 and 30.
53:54But that just like shows you how much volumes in this offense.
53:57Agree with all of that. Okay. Moving forward. Denzel Boston.
54:00Listen, I have to start Denzel Boston in a league.
54:03Look, Deshaun Watson has the highest expected completion rate in the NFL.
54:07He's way below that in terms of his completion rate.
54:10But that is a Todd Munkin stat. Yes, it is.
54:13Todd Munkin is doing a fantastic job. And Denzel Boston already has three catches of 40-plus yards in four games this season.
54:19So I'm just hoping we get a repeat of weeks one and two here.
54:24Yeah, big post route touchdown, that dig route with some broken tackle juice.
54:28And then the, you know, I forget if the player fell down or just a coverage bus or whatever.
54:33More of a wide open variety this last week.
54:36He's a good player, man. Like, I don't watch him and be like, oh, I have speed concerns with Denzel Boston.
54:42And that was the only flag, red flag, that was presented by others out there.
54:47We liked him a lot. I had him as my 21st overall player in my wide receiver four.
54:52And he's an awesome player. So there's enough, like, kind of manufactured underneath, kind of high floor nature to this.
54:58And then he's got the biggest explosive play potential because he's getting targeted down the field.
55:03So I like it. Lad McConkie's next. He is in the same boat as DJ Moore.
55:08I will say that the Broncos will be without Patrick Sertain here.
55:11And Riley Moss has been dealing with a rib injury on top of that.
55:15And, I mean, the on-off splits of Ladd in the offense and without him have been staggering because he is the most consistent pass catcher on the team.
55:24Chargers injury report is just nasty to look at.
55:27Joe Alt hasn't practiced. He's going to play with a neck injury.
55:30Rayshawn Slater is going to be out a week or a month or so with an ankle injury.
55:36Then it's like Derwin James hasn't practiced. Dante Jackson, who plays for them.
55:39Their left guard, he hasn't practiced. Trevor Penning, he hasn't practiced.
55:43He's a rotational guy. Like, this is going to be a pathetic offensive line, like you said, in stats versus film.
55:49And then Ladd McConkie, he hasn't practiced with a foot injury yet either.
55:53So, like, this is kind of just a placeholder.
55:56If Ladd McConkie is out, I mean, I'm not saying anybody should start Quentin Johnson or Trey Harris.
56:01Like, that is between you guys and your lords.
56:04Trey Harris should be playing over Quentin Johnson. I'll put that out there.
56:08Okay. Malik Washington is next. Is this D tier?
56:10No. D tier? I love him a little Malik Washington.
56:13Dude, I do too. A couple things here. Slot receivers have 45% of the wide receiver receptions against the Bengals.
56:19That's the sixth highest rate in the NFL. We know over the middle of the field is where the Bengals really struggle.
56:26Now, that's been tight ends so far this season with Dalton Schultz and TG Hawkinson and all that type of stuff.
56:32No, Dalton Schultz and Burton Strange. Not TG Hawkins, but Burton Strange.
56:36And Malik spends about 50% of his snaps there.
56:38He's also the easy button for this team that needs some easy buttons a lot.
56:43Yeah. Bengals have allowed the number 25 rush yards per game, number seven pass yards per game.
56:48It's a pass funnel. We know it is. And like you said, it's a pass funnel right over the middle.
56:54It's not a pass funnel to DJ Turner. It's a pass funnel to Malik Washington over the middle.
56:59I mean, unless we're expecting Greg Dolsage to finish the tight end one.
57:03Like, you know, somebody is working over the middle and it's going to work.
57:07And I think that Malik Washington is that guy.
57:10By the way, watching all the running back snaps last week, Malik Washington was in the backfield catching some pitches and, you
57:17know, running the ball at the middle, some counter plays and whatnot.
57:20So like, you're also getting that as an option.
57:23I do not think that's going away as cross trains.
57:26And the team absolutely loves Malik Washington. Like, Halfley and those guys, they just completely are glowing over Malik Washington.
57:32So yeah, final name in this tier. That brings us to Debo as the D tier.
57:37Wide receiver 34. This is against Seattle. Debo's been one of the best waiver wire pickups of the season.
57:42But he might have some tough sledding here. He might need a 80 yard hook and ladder to get his take on.
57:49Definitely so. Been very up and down in terms of like his involvement in the offense.
57:54Like that hook and ladder game in week three, like that was like his only touch in the game.
58:00Last week, I had a decent outing. I just think the matchup for him, like he's going to see Nickman worry the most.
58:06I would guess, right? Like him and Kittle are going to be kind of against like the best parts of the defense.
58:13So I think it's a little bit harder for Debo here.
58:16But, you know, I'm not going to be fading Shanahan completely either.
58:20Right. I hear you. Okay. Next, Jordan Addison at the Saints.
58:23I guess I was expecting more from Jordan Addison last week.
58:26He actually, you know, had some level of floor to his game.
58:30I think I'm just overall expecting more from this Vikings passing offense.
58:34What they have? One touchdown drive on like their last 30 drives overall or something like that.
58:39And it's pretty crazy. I'll find I'll find the status you're talking.
58:42Well, it's been I mean, I've I've seen TikTok edits about their kicker.
58:46Oh, Will Reichard. Yeah. We just like kind of kind of awesome.
58:50But at the same time, also like, oh, you probably want your TikTok edits to be with your, you know, quarterbacks and wide receivers, not your kicker.
58:58But it was correct. This is from Dan Orlowski.
59:01The Vikings offense has found the end zone one time in their last 32 drives on offense.
59:06And that drive was a 40 yard pass to Jordan Addison and then like a 32 yard touchdown pass to Jordan Addison.
59:12Yeah. Yep. He's he hasn't practiced much with the hamstring injury.
59:16So wait and see. All more written. Next is Marv.
59:19Anything to say about Marv? Expertly in my flex.
59:21Wow. I forgot you had him in the expert league.
59:24I picked him up before last week. For this matchup?
59:27Kind of for this matchup, but also like, you know, he should just in case he gets traded and stuff.
59:33I think he should be rostered. You know, my.
59:36I this expert league week truly might be the worst fantasy performance I ever put up.
59:41Yeah. Yeah. It's it is so rough. Okay. Casey Concepcion is next.
59:44I would love to see like downfield passes to him at the same time.
59:48I understand the limitations of his quarterback. But that said, he does have eight and nine targets over the last two games.
59:55Yeah. I think the big plays coming for for Casey Concepcion.
59:58We haven't like fully seen him completely take off.
60:01And he's a wide receiver 32 in expected points.
60:04Wide receiver 23 in targets. Like he has a chance to get some carries and whatnot as well.
60:09A big plays coming from like we have not seen the best.
60:13He's gone. He's finished under his usage and all four games.
60:16I think it's largely a Deshaun Watson problem, but like a big spike week is coming.
60:21Eventually the Jets. I think it's a perfect matchup for that to happen.
60:25We talked key on Coleman already. Trey Tucker. Hayden, while we're recording this, I want to bring up something about the Raiders.
60:31Ashton Gentry not seen participating in practice on Friday.
60:34The foot injury on Thursday was a new addition as well.
60:37So maybe they're keeping him out. Yeah, that'd be wild.
60:40I mean, I really hope everyone that listens to our show has Mike Washington on the back of their roster.
60:46Unless they've been watching our stuff on mute all summer.
60:49They most likely have Mike Washington on the end of their roster.
60:53And that's kind of it. I kind of wanted to leave this at 39 because the rest of these names are.
60:59Yeah. Wicks, Khalif Raymond, Jacoby Myers. I mean, like, yeah, maybe I should move Jacoby Myers because their team total is higher.
61:06But like, you know, we're getting some pretty disgusting wide receivers.
61:09Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the wide receiver. I think Roto Pat put it that the wide receiver depth right now.
61:15It's disgusting. In fantasy football is the worst it's ever been.
61:18I would I would say so. I would I would also say, though, I didn't love the running back threes.
61:24That wasn't the best either. I mean, I would argue running back like 19 and on is the same way.
61:30Yeah, I got it. It's kind of really a stars versus scrubs versus tight ends season.
61:35Yeah, no, that my tight end 14 is Kenyon Sadiq.
61:38Like we almost like our wide receiver rankings up.
61:41So we should go a little bit further. But I'm more work to me.
61:45No, no, no, no. It's like I thought you're going to they're going to add wide receivers and tight ends together.
61:51I'm giving I'm giving the commenters a suggestion, an idea here.
61:54No, no, no. The the tight end in my flex zone.
61:58We need to find the wide receiver where it's like, boom, this is like that kind of iffy tight end.
62:04Like. We would start him and I think, you know, this is probably about the right range after Jacoby Myers.
62:10I think, you know, we're totally in just start the tight ends range after after that.
62:15I agree. All right. That does it. Harmon and Boone and Hayden will drive the ship on Sunday morning.
62:20I'll be back for the Sunday night show. Thank you all for watching, for subscribing, for tuning in.
62:26Shout out farmers once again for being on board with a show for the entire season.
62:30Talk to you guys soon. Have a great weekend up the villa.