0:00You know what time it is. The first Waiver Wire episode of the season.
0:04I don't know, we're going to give you 12 to 15 names that you should consider at the end of your bench,
0:10at the end of your roster right now. Look, I understand you drafted all these names.
0:15They're all your babies. They're all going to do well this year.
0:18But just have an open mind, an open ear to some of the names that we bring up like Terrence Ferguson and
0:25Dontavian Wicks and even Chris Bell, the rookie wide receiver here from the Miami Dolphins.
0:29Joel Smith joins me for this episode and every single Monday night for the rest of the season to set you up
0:35to succeed on the Waiver Wire every single year.
0:38So stay tuned to this episode of Yahoo Fantasy Football with Josh and Hayden.
0:42Just because your draft is complete doesn't mean your roster construction is over.
0:45No, no, no. Today we have at least a dozen names for you to consider ahead of week one.
0:51And to do that with me every single week once Monday Night Football hits triple zeros, that is Joel Smith.
0:57Joel does fantastic work over at Yahoo. Obviously, you know, his social media bubble.
1:01He is simply the best at his deep analysis.
1:03Joel, I have an opening question for you that I think fits perfectly into what you do so well.
1:09Waiver Wire budget advice, fab dollars. Okay. Are people too aggressive or conservative early in the season?
1:13I like to be aggressive in general early on.
1:16I will say one piece with that. The deeper the league you have, the more aggressive you should be.
1:21I would say if you are on a double flex three receiver, 12 team, 14 team, 16 team, all that.
1:27I would be more aggressive in week one if you are in a deeper league.
1:31It's going to get to a point where there's just like not many players that are available.
1:36And there's more teams that are going after those very few players.
1:40If you're in a smaller league, then I feel like you can be a little bit more patient.
1:45But I did look into this even last year.
1:47I remember after week one last season, it was really bad on waivers.
1:51I don't know if you remember this where it's just like, oh, this isn't very fun.
1:56I'm like, we got no waiver options after the first week are good.
1:59Yeah. And then I looked at the article, Justin Boone wrote it on Yahoo.
2:03And there were three names in there still Trevor Lawrence, Rico Dowdle and Kenny Gainwell.
2:08Where at the time it was still like, ah, like, are they really going to be that good?
2:13But it was top five quarterback and two fantasy running back twos still in week one.
2:17So I still lean like more aggressive after that first weekend.
2:20Yeah. And Harold Fenn was a big pickup or should have been after week one.
2:25And that kind of goes into my view on this too, Joel.
2:28Like if you have a belief in a player or in a situation, go for it, you know, unload the fab early on.
2:35Don't be shy, especially if they still have an unknown element to them that others might be questioning if that's going to repeat itself a bit more.
2:42Like, for example, we're going to talk about Terrence Ferguson here today.
2:46If he goes for 87 yards and a touchdown in week one and plays 70% of the snaps for the Rams, like
2:52I'm going to go nuts with my budget here versus, you know, another tight end.
2:56Let's say Durham Smythe somehow catches two touchdowns and 55 yards in his debut for the Ravens.
3:01Like we know what Durham Smythe has been. We know the teams he has played for and the roles that he's had.
3:08So if he farts in the end zone twice, that doesn't mean I'm going to like go out of my way to unload my fab like that.
3:15It's just while the production might be similar, I think the situations might be different and the unknown elements might be different.
3:22So I'm more inclined to go after, especially rookies, like the unknown players versus like the retread veterans that might have a great week one.
3:29But again, we have more of an understanding of who they are at large in the zoom out view.
3:34Yeah, I would say look for the usage and also look for those summer reports to be confirmed.
3:39If there is just consistent talk, this guy is going to be used this way and he's going to be getting more
3:46volume in this way as that role. And it's proven week one, then it's like, all right, well, we have a little
3:52bit more of a one week sample in theory than just like a random spike against a really good matchup that we
3:58don't really know is a really good matchup yet.
4:01Okay, let's dive into a whole bunch of players here.
4:04Once again, this is going to be in your feed after every single Monday night football.
4:08But we didn't want to leave you hanging ahead of week one because again, we have got Wednesday games and Thursday games.
4:14You know how roster construction works on Yahoo. If a player is out or an IR, you can move them in that
4:21spot and pick up some of these guys in exploratory fashion.
4:24How we're going to do this is the obvious names own less than 50% in Yahoo leagues.
4:29And then later on, we're going to do the deep cuts about 25, 20% on Yahoo.
4:33So let's start with the running backs here. The first name here is Woody Marks at 49%.
4:38A few things. His preseason, the beat writer positivity for it.
4:41The suggestion that this might be closer to like a 60-40 split with David Montgomery and just overall questions about the offensive
4:48line has made me want to target less D-Mont as the offseason has gone along.
4:52What is your thoughts on Woody Marks heading into week one?
4:55Yeah, I feel the same way on Montgomery just with like him kind of needing bell cow volume, I would say in that situation.
5:02With Woody, it's confusing because I like him on both sides where I think he's an amazing handcuff.
5:07At the same time, I don't think that 40% is going to be enough.
5:11And the passing rule, I don't think is like super valuable for him even.
5:15Where like last year, he had eight starts at the end of the season.
5:19In those eight starts, I was like the lead back, 11 receptions.
5:22So like I don't think there's like passing roles really going to like make him startable in fantasy.
5:28But at the same time, I do think he's like a good handcuff.
5:31Totally. I think he has a bit more independent value than typical handcuffs.
5:35We'll get into the handcuff section here later on.
5:38The Houston Chronicle's Jonathan M. Alexander believed that the rushing workloads for Dave Montgomery and Woody Marks quote might not be 50-50, but it will be close.
5:45And then what I've seen from Woody Marks this preseason, maybe some of his best like individual moments and opportunities of his entire career so far.
5:53At the same time, I went back and looked at his finishes last season.
5:57And he had weeks of running back six, 18, 18, 10, and 14 last year.
6:01So I don't believe it's out of the realm of possibility that, you know, a second year player has improved, especially one
6:07that was more viewed as a passing down back and maybe improved as a ball carrier.
6:12But overall, I don't think either is going to matter if it is a 60-40 split as much as we wanted them
6:18to, as much as we drafted them to. But Woody Marks will be on my mind if something does happen to Dave Montgomery as we go along.
6:26Yeah. The RB six week was incredible. Unless that.
6:28Missed that hope. Okay, let's look. Tyler Algier. All right.
6:31We don't know right now how much time Jeremiah Love is going to miss or how much he's going to play here in week one.
6:38And that's why I wanted to throw him in this mention.
6:41Like Mike Garofalo reported that he is quote 50-50 to play in week one.
6:45Jeremiah Love. That was back on September 1st. So I guess my question here, Joel, is if Jeremiah Love is out, there's no James Conner in week one.
6:53There's no Trey Benson in week one. Tyler Algier might be widely viewed and widely ranked as a top 24 back.
6:59Yeah. It's one of those where it's like the injury and love being a rookie like makes it more interesting because in
7:06general, like I wouldn't say like Algier is my favorite, even like as a handcuff.
7:10I think it's more of a situation where once Jeremiah Love is in there, he's going to be like a worse version of Charbonnet last season.
7:17I would say where Charbonnet had like a dozen touchdowns and was the RB 30.
7:22And I would see that path like for Algier to send a much worse offense.
7:26But if Love is truly out, then that's where he is in flex range.
7:30He wasn't always like the greatest fantasy running back, even when he was a starter as a rookie.
7:35But the volume is still going to make him a startable play and a flex play in those leagues.
7:41Yeah. I don't have a great long view on Tyler Algier this season.
7:44This is more of a week one. If we get reports from Adam Schefter late into the night that, you know, Jeremiah
7:51Love is going to be limited to 20, 25 snaps, then Tyler Algier will maybe have more value in week one than
7:57he does for the next like 10 or so weeks.
8:00Let's talk Keaton Mitchell, you know, fantasy football's favorite player.
8:03They open against the Arizona Cardinals. Just your thoughts on what Keaton Mitchell can do this year and if he should be
8:09on every single roster out there in a 10 to 12 man league.
8:13I think for 12 teams, he deserves to be on every roster.
8:16I would say it's tough because he's now missed six straight practices.
8:19So with the injury history and missing practices, like I get it.
8:23And it's like rostering an injured handcuff is not super ideal.
8:26But there is a small path, especially in those deeper leagues for him to be playable, even not as a handcuff because
8:32of Mike McDaniel and how running back focused they are in this offense, the potential pass catching role and just his explosive ability there.
8:39So I still think he should be rostered. But obviously week one would I wouldn't consider it at all.
8:45Obviously, overall, I view Keaton Mitchell as Amar Hampton's, you know, Robin to the situation.
8:49Like there might have been these pockets of fantasy football Twitter that said like, oh, there's a chance based on his underlying
8:55metrics and and per carry basis that Keaton Mitchell is one of the more undervalued backs across the league or could maybe
9:01overtake Amar Hampton at some point this offseason. I never believe that.
9:05The beat writers are stating that's not the case at all.
9:08But what I do think happens is anywhere from four to six to maybe even 10 touches for Keaton Mitchell on a weekly basis.
9:15And they're almost these manufactured, hey, we're going to get him in this orbit motion, this like strafe motion and catch passes.
9:21They got some stuff down the field, too. I mean, Mike McDaniel had what the running back three and running back four
9:27overall season for Raheem Mostert and, you know, Devon Achan.
9:30So I'm not expecting that. But we have seen him get, you know, two running backs heavily utilized as the season goes along.
9:37Yeah. And that's what I've been kind of like preaching is, yes, I get that Mostert Achan season was like one of a kind.
9:44And they were the number one scoring offense. But they were also top five.
9:48Like, that's not what we're thinking Mitchell's going to be like.
9:51We're thinking like, oh, maybe Mitchell could be like a flex play down the line.
9:55So that's where like my hope kind of lies in him of having some standalone value as a handcuff as well.
10:01Okay. I'm not sure we're going to have any positive things to say about this next name.
10:06Tajay Spears at 39% of Yahoo leagues. It shocked me in the opening of the preseason when he and Tony Pollard basically went drive for drive.
10:13If it stays that way in the regular season, Joel, I think neither of these backs will matter.
10:18Yeah. Because Pollard, like as a bell cow, the last couple of years has been borderline RB2.
10:23Borderline. Borderline. It hasn't really been that great. This offense, like I wouldn't expect it too much better from especially as looked in the preseason.
10:30But with Tajay there, Brian Dable coming in as that offense coordinator and play caller, he's had a pretty heavy running back
10:37split throughout his time, whether it's New York or Buffalo.
10:40So I think he's going to bring a little bit more of that and have PPR.
10:44It's not the grace or Spears. Like I can see him being like, again, a solid handcuff, but standalone value.
10:50I don't really see it in this offense. And Joe, let's talk.
10:53Jonah Coleman, another running back for the Denver Broncos.
10:56What do you make of the rookie? I mean, people love rookies.
10:59He was drafting a lot of leagues, but still out there in what?
11:0366%. Yeah. He's a weird one just because like he's starting as the RB3.
11:07So it's weird to like say like, oh yeah, you should draft the third running back, even though he's like a long
11:13way away from being the starting running back. But there is so much positive besides that.
11:18Like Denver's running back, like the fantasy running back potential in Denver is amazing.
11:22Their offensive line is incredible. They throw to running backs a bunch.
11:25And then when we're looking at the running backs in front of them, like Dobbins is the guy on the ground.
11:31Harvey is the guy in the air. Coleman has been talked up as both of that.
11:36And Dobbins is obviously very injury prone and Harvey could be passed and is also coming off of surgery.
11:41So there's still a lot of positive for Coleman.
11:44It's just not going to be week one, obviously.
11:46Can I pour some cold water on this? I thought Jeff Bell put the Broncos running back room really well.
11:52He said that J.K. Dobbins is the running back who gets a bunch of rushes without targets.
11:57He said that R.J. Harvey is the running back who gets targets, but no rushes.
12:01And then he said that Jonah Coleman is the running back who gets a little bit of both, but not enough for either.
12:08Like when you go back and look at J.K.
12:10Dobbins season last year, I mean, people want to cite, you know, he was on pace for the first, you know, Sean
12:17Payton running back to get 250 plus carries. He was also on pace for a career season, but that was still, you
12:23know, the running back 22 and points per game.
12:26So that would be a nice win if we get that from Jonah Coleman at some point this season.
12:31But the reason why R.J. Harvey became a really good fancy football asset in the heart of the season was because he got everything right.
12:38He got the carries, he got the receptions, and he got the red zone work.
12:42And now that this is like a triple, you know, trio, I don't know, Joel, if any of these backs is ever going to get the entire package.
12:50Yeah, it'll be tough. Like if all three stay healthy, it will be really tough.
12:55I don't think it'll happen at that point. It's just like, will that happen?
12:59And also there is that potential too, on top of the injury, like of R.J.
13:03Harvey kind of being passed. It's tough. I don't think he'll be passed as a receiver.
13:08So it just adds to your argument. Like the receiving is such a huge chunk of this.
13:12I haven't necessarily been super in on Dobbins because of the low reward versus the high risk.
13:17But I think if there was one that like shocked everybody and was a huge value, it would be like, oh, I'll
13:24just take the running back in this amazing offense for free at the end of drafts rather than like trying to hunt one in round eight or something.
13:32Okay, let's talk handcuff corner. This is going to be an area that I'd love to talk about in the waiver episodes
13:38because look, if one of your players listed is out ahead of a game or they're in reserve or any many ways
13:44of this, you can just put them on IR and then fill in with a handcuff running back who in the next
13:50waiver episode, we might be talking about as the most pivotal pickup of the week.
13:55So just to get ahead of that, Joel, I'll rank them.
13:58Tank Bigsby, Ray Davis, Malik Davis, Seth McGowan. You can hit on any of these names or none of them if you want to.
14:05I do like a lot of these names. I do.
14:07I think Ray Davis is the most underrated handcuff running back maybe I've ever seen.
14:12Where just I think the only reason we're not drafting him is just because Cook's been healthy, which it's hard to predict injuries and that goes both ways.
14:20And although I love Cook this season, it also makes me love Ray Davis because it's the same team.
14:25Like we have a top five offense, top five offensive line.
14:28And he has had two games in his career without James Cook.
14:32He has 20 touches in both, 326 scrimmage yards, over 150 scrimmage yards per game and 20 points per game.
14:37He's just like, it's been amazing. And it's very, very limited two times without James Cook.
14:42And the offense is still the same. Joe Brady kind of like hand selected them.
14:46So I think Ray Davis is just like a free guy at the end of the draft is great.
14:52Yeah. And I think Ty Johnson missed a bulk of training camp on top of that.
14:56Yeah. Hand up. I drafted a ton of Ray Davis over the last two years.
15:01So it's weird to do it a third year, especially when James Cook, you know, has almost been healthy for every single one of those.
15:08I know people are shouting like Blake Corum and a whole bunch of handcuff names.
15:12Joel, to me, those are not true handcuffs. You know, those guys have legit standalone value.
15:17I'm talking about the ones that have zero standalone value.
15:19But again, if Saquon goes down to me, you're looking at Tank Bixby as a every week top 20 running back for
15:26as long as Barkley is on the bench. Okay, let's jump to wide receivers.
15:30This list is much smaller. Denzel Boston is rostered in 31% of Yahoo leagues.
15:34He had an excellent training camp. And once we got the preseason, we know that Todd Munkin loved to throw the football to Casey Concepcion.
15:41And so that's why Casey and Denzel Boston's, let's say, ADPs and roster percentage is much, much different.
15:46What are your view? What's your view on Denzel Boston heading into his rookie season?
15:50I like him a lot in Dynasty. I think if he works in redraft, he's going to be one of those players
15:57that like gets picked up in week one, dropped in week three or four or five, and then picked up again at the end of the season.
16:04And it's like good then. It's just tough because like the reason we like Casey as like that first round rookie and
16:11Boston was drafted, like right after him, there's like very different styles.
16:14Like Boston is going to be good as that red zone receiving threat.
16:18So when you're on offense that had like under one passing touchdowns per game last season and he's the third option, it's
16:24tough to like even in deep leagues to like see the value there.
16:28So I like him in Dynasty. It's just a really tough situation to do it in right now.
16:33Yeah, we'll see a lot of Travis Hunter probably in week one as well.
16:37It's going to be easier to get, you know, Quinchon Judkins, Casey Concepcion and Harold Fan in the football.
16:42With that said, I really do think that Denzel Boston has ISO ball ability, sideline ability on top of it.
16:48And you brought up the red zone stuff. Todd Munkin talked about those red zone skills earlier this offseason.
16:53But, you know, Cleveland was 29th in the NFL with 2.2 red zone drives per game.
16:58And then even in Baltimore last year, Todd Munkin's offense was 27th in red zone touchdown rate.
17:03So, yeah, maybe Denzel Boston will have his moments this year with a couple of touchdowns or a single touchdown grab.
17:09But that's more maybe a 2027 conversation. Okay. We go from a rookie to a vet.
17:13What about Keenan Allen signing halfway through training camp and being a part of this banged up Colts passing attack?
17:19Yeah, he's another one that I'm not like dying to go out and get on waivers before week one.
17:24And like even after I think like going into year 14, it's one of those low ceiling, but also like kind of low floor player.
17:32All the reports is kind of he's going to be the three wide receiver sets on the outside and low passing volume offense.
17:38When they are scoring, a lot of it is on the ground.
17:42Like when they get in the red zone, they're running the ball.
17:45They have still like Tyler Warren there as that number one with Josh Downs and Pierce.
17:50And like he's just like another one of the guys.
17:52So I think it's just going to be low.
17:55Like he's not going to get the 120 targets that he saw with Justin Herbert.
17:59And then the offense is very different where I don't think it's really benefiting him to be a year 14 outlier.
18:05I will say I think the 28% is pretty low.
18:08Like we could look at the end of week one against his Ravens defense and see that Keenan Allen is a leading receiver for this team.
18:16I wouldn't say I'm predicting that, but it wouldn't shock me either.
18:19One area that stands out to me how he's going to be useful on this team is third downs.
18:24I mean, he is a chain mover every single year of his career.
18:28But with the Chargers last year, he had 51 targets on third down compared to 28 for Ladin-McConkie, 20 for Quentin Johnson.
18:34I'm interested to see what this does for Josh Downs more so than Tyler Warren.
18:39Because let's say I think Josh Downs had the most targets on third down last year.
18:43Meanwhile, Tyler Warren, the most of his were on first and second down.
18:47And again, Keenan Allen, I think, was 22nd EPA added on catches last year on late downs.
18:52So it's, again, not predicting it, but it wouldn't shock me at all if Keenan Allen has a sneaky week one.
18:58Yeah, still a good NFL player. Still a good NFL player.
19:01His game ages gracefully is one way of putting it.
19:04Okay. Yeah. Tight ends. Maybe you were very frustrated with how your tight end room fell in the draft.
19:09We're going to fix that right now. And then man to do it as Terrence Ferguson potentially here.
19:14Joel, he's only rostered in 20% of Yahoo leagues.
19:17We know that they play early against the San Francisco 49ers.
19:20The Rams do. This is the one that I'm watching here for week one.
19:24Okay. For this reason, in 2023, Kyron Williams popped up for 15 touchdowns, 1300 yards.
19:28It was evident during week one that we should have unloaded our fab for him.
19:33Also in 2023, Puka Nakua, fifth round rookie, 1500 yards.
19:36We should have unloaded our fab despite him again, being more of a late round pick and a very much of unknown.
19:42Terrence Ferguson, as you know, Joel, half of his targets last year were 20 plus yards on the field.
19:47He was a unicorn in terms of his usage.
19:50Now, all that we've heard is they want to get him more quick passes underneath against linebackers and safeties and allow them to run after the catch.
19:58So maybe, oh, maybe this is one of those breakout players in a position that unless you draft at the top five
20:04or top six, you have major questions on your roster.
20:07Yeah. It's like, it's what we were talking about earlier.
20:10If he goes out in week one and it is the usage that they've been talking up, it's like, Ooh, then we really like it.
20:17Then it's worth that money there. A lot of people have been talking about how he can just be like the team's
20:23pseudo wide super three, kind of how like Mike Jasicki is in Cincinnati where yes, they kind of like they have Andre
20:29Yoshivosh, but Mike Jasicki, the slot guy, Mike Jasicki is that wide super three on the team and two, two might get
20:36in the way of that at well. But I think there's still the shot that Ferguson can be that.
20:41And it's just such a good offense. Like you want to be part of it.
20:4580%, I think it's 82% of tight end touchdowns come in the red zone and they led the NFL last year, obviously
20:52in those red zone touchdowns through the air. So I think Ferguson can be like one of those sneaky guys.
20:57They drafted him high last year. He was like, who's their first pick?
21:01This team is four deep at tight end. There's a chance they legitimately live out of 12 and 13 personnel.
21:07And if that's the case, then Terrence Ferguson is their wide receiver three behind Pukunukua and Devante Adams.
21:12So if I have to, and I probably have when I made the thumbnail headline, a player ahead of this, again, he's
21:18out there in 80% of Yahoo leagues, not the ones I play in, but 80%.
21:22So go out and I would say, pick him up ahead of week one.
21:26The other name here is Pat Fryermuth that I wrote down.
21:29Joel, I don't even know if you want to say anything about this.
21:33My only point is I think there's a chance that Pat Fryermuth has been undervalued all summer.
21:38That's like a take that's been creeping up in my brain as the weeks have gone along.
21:43Michael Pittman missed a ton of camp. Aaron Rodgers said that Pat Fryermuth would be a big part of filling in in
21:49that gap for when and until, you know, Michael Pittman gets back to 100%.
21:53And if that's the case, we know Aaron Rodgers really gets to pick out who he throws the football to.
21:59Pat Fryermuth might be like a top 15 tight end when we look back at it the rest of the season.
22:05Yeah. It could be worth a start against the Bengals.
22:08If that doesn't change there last year, he destroyed them.
22:11But it'll be interesting because like obviously Arthur Smith, he runs such tight end heavy sets and Mike McCarthy's kind of been
22:17the opposite, but they've paid both Fryermuth and Darnell Washington so much money.
22:21They're both, I think, top 10 in their contracts.
22:23So it'll be interesting to see like how much each of them is used.
22:27Totally. And, you know, we did deal with Darnell Washington, who was more of a sixth offensive lineman, but also Johnnie Smith in that grouping last year.
22:35And Johnnie Smith is now gone. And then really, if Muth wants to be the third target or even second target early
22:41on, it's Roman Wilson that maybe he's competing with.
22:44And you would like to think that Pat Fryermuth can overtake Roman Wilson in that packing order.
22:49Okay. We're going to deep sleepers, deep names here in a moment.
22:52First, just wanted to mention, as we're going to do throughout the rest of the shows this week, our content schedule.
22:58As I said, every Monday night, after Monday Night Football, we're going to have this, the waiver episode with Joel.
23:04Tuesday, it's a live stats versus. This film, 6 o'clock Eastern.
23:07Myself, Hayden, and Matt Harmon. Wednesday, running back rankings with Justin Boone in the evening.
23:11Thursdays, I know I'm guesting on Matt's channel for a weekend preview.
23:15And we'll have some other smaller videos that Hayden's a part of too.
23:18And then Friday, wide receiver rankings for all of you.
23:21We close that with Sunday. Starting even earlier this year, 10.30 a.m.
23:25until kickoff. A live preview show, Fantasy Football Live.
23:27And then our normal Q&A. So yeah, join us six days a week here on the channel for some content.
23:33I love it. I'll be joining you. Yes, you will.
23:36You will, Joel. You'll be here. You have no reason not to be.
23:39Okay. Less than 25% of Yahoo leaks. I'm going to throw George Holani's name at you right now, Joel, because he's rostered
23:46and only 4% on Yahoo at the moment. I'm not super bought in on it.
23:50I've seen recently. I'm sure you have. Yes. Like he could potentially be their goal line back.
23:55So maybe there, if he like gets that and the receiving, just like a unicorn where he's not really getting much carries,
24:01but he's getting all the important work. We very rarely see that, but I think I'll pass in general just because like
24:07we saw Charbonnet last year and even Holani is the RB2 to walk our last season in the playoffs.
24:13Like really good NFL player, very valuable for their team.
24:16Wasn't really like a fantasy play in the NFL playoffs.
24:19So just to reset this, we know Zach Charbonnet is out for at least four games and it could be longer.
24:25We don't know that right now. The report that you're bringing up is from the athletics, Andrew Destin.
24:30He said that Jadarian price is going to be used on early downs while George Holani plays the third down short yardage and goal line rolls.
24:37That's a big leap for me to make. Okay.
24:40For one, Holani has one red zone carry in his career.
24:43Now he did have, you know, three games with Ken Walker, the third out over the last, what two seasons and played
24:49about 33% of the snaps in those situations and saw one goal line opportunity and red zone opportunity.
24:54I should say not just goal line red zone opportunity.
24:57So to me, that's almost Joel imparting Zach Charbonnet's role one-to-one onto George Holani.
25:01And I don't think it's going to be that rigid.
25:04Um, I will add though, like where we're seeing with Trevor and Henderson right now, and how he is out of practice
25:10and Adam Schefter saying it's a long shot for him to play.
25:14I think this game is what on Wednesday night, if you drafted Trevor and Henderson to like be your flex player, I
25:20think a speculative ad instead is George Holani. And maybe you have to be forced to play him in that situation.
25:26Uh, it wouldn't shock me at all. Even if Hendo plays, if Holani outscores Hendo this week.
25:31And this is a week one show. So I will say if there's any week that Holani is going to be like
25:37the best, it would be in week one with the rookie price as like his first ever career game.
25:42Yeah. This is one of those short view names.
25:45Like T Ferg is a long view. Obviously, Holani to me is a very short view name.
25:50But again, the first four weeks, uh, wins and losses matter just as much as let's say weeks five through nine on top of it.
25:57Okay. Deep cut wide receivers. Trey Tucker versus the Miami Dolphins.
26:00Easiest matchup. I would say in the opening 11 weeks for this Raiders team only rostered on 25% of Yahoo leagues right now, Joel.
26:07I don't mind it. It's 25%, which I'm surprised.
26:10It's like that low just because of that means he's like going undrafted in a lot of like the bigger leagues too.
26:16But Tucker, he is the wide receiver one in Las Vegas.
26:19Like they bring in Naylor, but at least from like the reports right now in preseason, they rested Trey Tucker and they did not rest Jalen Naylor.
26:27So it's looking like he's going to be the wide receiver one on the team, even though, you know, Raiders receivers aren't
26:33expected to be the best, but Kubiak could give him potential because he is the explosive deep threat.
26:38And we've seen that with Kubiak in the past, like Rashid Shaheed in New Orleans or JSN last year, whatever it is.
26:44Like it's always, there was a big explosive touchdown.
26:47So he's not going to be consistent. It's going to be pretty volatile, but he's a prayer guy that can answer a lot of prayers.
26:54We just don't know what it's going to be.
26:57Yeah. If it hits hot and if it runs hot, then Trey Tucker, you know, could have some really spiked weeks for you.
27:03It's interesting. Like Clint Kubiak and both chances he's been recently as a play caller.
27:08New Orleans wasn't supposed to be this downfield passing attack.
27:10He turned it into a top 10 explosive offense.
27:13Seattle last year was among, if not the best at 10, 20 plus yards down the field.
27:18That wasn't expected to happen once he took over.
27:20So this is just part of his DNA in terms of downfield stuff.
27:24And while they paid Jalen Naylor this off season and for agency, every single B writer has said that Trey Tucker is
27:30the wide receiver one, even if Brock Bowers kind of has that mantle, but they have to throw it to someone else too.
27:37So I'm with you. 75% of leagues out there, I think are sleeping on Trey Tucker a little bit.
27:42Yeah. And he doesn't need to be like an eight target game guy to produce.
27:47Like if he just gets like a couple of those deep shots, it'll be good.
27:51What do you want to say about Jacoby Lane, the rookie Ravens wide receiver, who's available in 81% of leagues out there?
27:57He's the better guy in dynasty. We know that, but there is some potential just because of the mix of his style and the offense.
28:04He's like the opposite of Denzel Boston. Basically he's in a Ravens offense where yes, they are also lower volume in the passing attack.
28:11He looks like he's going to be the wide receiver too.
28:14If Bateman is not there, but even in college with Makai Lemon, he was the clear wide receiver two to Lemon, but
28:21he still had more touchdowns over that three year span, the last two seasons in general.
28:25So Lane can still get there in a really good offense.
28:28If he just has like a really big touchdown season, I hope that Z flowers is used more in the red zone,
28:35but it hasn't been in the past. That's like one thing.
28:38And then the other bigger thing to me is they led the NFL on tight end target share in the red zone.
28:44Like they usually do Baltimore these last few years with Lamar.
28:47But now like Charlie Kohler is not there. Isaiah likely is not there.
28:51And Mark Andrews is obviously in decline. So it's like 42% of the targets once it tight ends there.
28:56Yep. A lot of that could be up for grabs for Jacoby, man.
29:00We have the same exact notes for this one.
29:03And you said it even better than I could have.
29:05Yeah. I mean, the Ravens built their red zone passing offense around Mark Andrews and Isaiah likely and even Kohler over the last few seasons.
29:13And all the reports of Mark Andrews have not been great in training camp.
29:17We know the other two are on different teams.
29:19I'm with you. One of the reasons why I've been aggressive in drafting Zay Flowers is because I thought this could be
29:25a reset season when it comes to his red zone usage.
29:29But, you know, maybe that's just a figment in my imagination and it's not possible.
29:33He's just too small for it. And if that's the case, then Jacoby Lane, his top 10 catches at USC were better
29:39than like any 10 catches of any other wide receiver in this class.
29:43So Lamar really hasn't had this style of a wide receiver at this age.
29:47You know, he had DeAndre Hopkins very late in his career.
29:50And so I'm interested and intrigued to see how Lamar handles like a sideline ball winner of this type of always have ISO coverage.
29:57Let's throw it up to him one on one and see what happens.
30:01Yeah. I haven't really thought about that before. But yeah, like obviously his wide receiver one for the first few was like Marquise Brown.
30:07Very different style receivers. The Flowers do his tight end.
30:10So that'll be interesting. Yeah. Okay. Houston made a move after second year wide receiver Jane Higgins went down.
30:16Let's talk Kayshawn Boutte or Booty that they made the move for with the New England Patriots.
30:21By the way, Booty was one of the better downfield ball winners.
30:24A perfect match for Drake May. It's interesting, Joel.
30:27I didn't look this up, but it wouldn't shock me at all if, you know, like Jane Higgins roster percentage was nearly identical to Kayshawn Booty's 17%.
30:34And, you know, I make that tongue in cheek point in that we didn't immediately give Kayshawn Booty the ADP that Jane Higgins had.
30:41And it's not even close. So I guess my question is, should it be close?
30:45I'm kind of leaning on the no side just because I was pretty, I was a little higher on Jane Higgins, I guess.
30:52But with Booty, I think he's like a good NFL move, but I don't know how much it's going to translate to fantasy this year.
30:59Like the Patriots obviously didn't have the volume in New England and they had some other guys there, but central more volume.
31:05But the Patriots offense was just like really perfect for him.
31:09Drake May downfield, like those deep shots was really perfect for him.
31:12So I think he is going to be more of just that outside deep threat, take the top off and help Nico Collins some potentially.
31:19Yes. But if you're playing, it is still going to be, can he get five targets and a touchdown, please?
31:25But I don't know if it's going to be like, oh, I'm confidently playing Kayshawn Booty this week.
31:30Yeah. Kayshawn Booty might be a really nice bi-week play in that regard, in terms of, hey, this might be the week
31:36that he gets the five targets and long touchdown.
31:39I also believe the Texans are going to run a lot more 12 and 13 personnel.
31:43I mean, they drafted Marlon Klein, Foster Morel. They also have Dalton Schultz on top of it.
31:48And so, yeah, Booty is going to stretch the field as Nico Collins runs these awesome crossing routes and middle of the
31:55field targets and all that type of stuff. And that's why you and I are drafting a lot of Nico Collins this offseason.
32:01Yeah. What about Ed and I? I agree. Talk about downfield ball winners.
32:05He's only rostered in 16% of Yahoo leagues right now as a part of the Jets.
32:09Yeah. I know you love him. I think I know that.
32:13But with Mitchell, I'm a believer, especially like in the best ball leagues or deeper leagues like that.
32:18Like I have faith and there's just been lots of signs.
32:21And I know like it's the Jets and Geno Smith and it's a little ugly.
32:25He's obviously the wide super two to Garrett Wilson.
32:28But Geno Smith has loved him. There's just been like constant positive talk ever since he's gotten to New York and Geno
32:34Smith and him worked out together like in Florida this year.
32:37Just things he's called him this year. He's an alpha.
32:40He's a baller. He's special. He's a great teammate.
32:43Just lots of different things. And now he had two targets to Garrett Wilson's one of the preseason.
32:48So maybe that means something. I'm joking. But you know what I mean?
32:51Like I think he can actually be like a consistent seven targets a week.
32:55And with his play style, I think that can pay off sometimes.
32:59And it works well with Smith style. I will bite your hand off right now for Adnan Mitchell gets seven targets a week.
33:05I mean, that would be incredible stuff. Look, they drafted Omar Cooper and Kenan Sadiq in round one, right?
33:11However, those two might cannibalize each other a little bit in that one can only be on the field while the other is off the field.
33:18If Cooper is the slot and Sadiq is kind of the second tight end in a way, because Garrett Wilson and Adnan
33:24Mitchell are going to be the outside wide receivers for this team, you know, and that's fantastic.
33:29The other point of this, Joel, is that they open with the Tennessee Titans.
33:33Maybe their easiest matchup of the season. So if you drafted someone like Jordan Tyson, you know, who's an IR immediate for
33:40the opening six weeks of the season, and you need to fill in that wide receiver spot in your roster.
33:45I think you and I can agree that Adnan Mitchell, and maybe even the next thing we're going to bring up here
33:52in Dunstaven Wicks could be the two most likely outcome players and maybe upside players versus even the wide receivers that we
33:58opened with, with like Denzel Boston and Keenan Allen that are more rostered on Yahoo right now.
34:03Yeah. Tennessee and New York is pretty disgusting, but I don't mind it.
34:06I think there's going to be like one of those big receivers that's questionable right now.
34:11And it's like five or six of them where it's like, oh, they'll be good by week one.
34:16There's probably going to be one that isn't, and Mitchell could be a nice villain.
34:20Okay, let's talk Dunstaven Wicks then. Beat writers have said things, quote, like, Makai Lemon is expected to get playing time right
34:27off the bat, but it's more likely that Devante Smith and Dunstaven Wicks receive the bulk of the targets while the rookie gets his footing.
34:34It sounds like, Joel, that he has locked down the wide receiver two spot in camp.
34:38And a lot of it is with Lemon missing all of OTAs, most of the training camp.
34:43I think it's going to be Lemon will start in the slot, get his feet wet, and we'll take time there.
34:49But I think people will be surprised that Wicks is like on the field more than Lemon to start.
34:55I agree. This is a short view play because when you draft a rookie like Makai Lemon, even in fantasy, that's a post-buy bump type player.
35:02We know that rookies can define second halves of fancy seasons, but they're going to give Wicks a ton of routes and a ton of snaps early on.
35:10So I think you can do worse than the Eagles that are projected to win a number of their early games and
35:16score a fair amount of points, even in this new passing offense, that the drumbeat for Dunstaven Wicks has been quite loud.
35:23So look, it was even frustrating when it was AJ Brown and Devante Smith together, that one of those guys might miss out.
35:29But again, if you are really in need of an immediate starter, if your league is super deep, Dunstaven Wicks is a name to keep in mind.
35:37Okay. Let's talk the two Dolphins rookie wide receivers.
35:40Caleb Douglas is rostered on 11% of leagues. Chris Bell, 4% of leagues.
35:43Straight up, Joel, do you have a preference of the two?
35:46Not really. I think I lean Douglas just because of the ACL tear and them being rookies, slow start for Bell.
35:52So I think right now, if I had to roster one, especially earlier on the season, it'd be Douglas.
35:58Okay. I'm going to do the opposite. I know that Caleb Douglas popped up here for an awesome catch in the preseason,
36:04nearly had another one on the sideline that he couldn't get two feet in bounds.
36:08I know he's the one that has flashed in training camp and has been at nearly every single practice.
36:14But Chris Bell, to me, is another deep cut that could really pay off for us as much as a Dolphins wide
36:20receiver could in weeks like seven, eight, nine here.
36:23From Joel Shad, okay? Quote, we're going to put our chips on Chris Bell leading the team in receiving yards this year.
36:29So Chris Bell is a fun player in terms of yards off the catch, a unique style to his game.
36:35So I wonder in a couple of weeks, Joel, if we're going to be talking about Chris Bell a lot more.
36:41Yeah. I'm sure if we have one of these waiver shows, we'll probably be talking a lot of Miami receivers out the year, I bet.
36:48At least a couple. At least a couple. Yeah.
36:50Maybe our prediction is that both Miami receivers make at least four appearances on this episode, one way or another, after a really nice week.
36:57And we can't time the good weeks from the bad weeks at all.
37:01Okay. Let's close with Devon Bell. He's the name that's filling in the starting lineup here for Jordan Tyson.
37:07Give me your thoughts. I like it kind of.
37:09In those leagues where it's like PPR, especially with Tyson, I think he's a nice, like solid fill in for Tyson.
37:15In the meantime, mainly just because of the offense in general, there's been like a lot of positive talk about Vela where
37:21he got traded mid season last year. It didn't do anything, but now with the off season with the team, all of
37:28that, but the offense overall is fast paced. It's high volume.
37:31It's a lot of those quick targets, all those deep targets.
37:34So there's lots of volume to be had for Vela in those PPR leagues where he's not going to crush, but I
37:40think he has a really good shot of being like getting you a solid 10 points when you need it.
37:46We've done it. Joel, this was a great start.
37:49It'll get even better as we go along. In future versions of this, we're going to do a cut list at the end too.
37:55So some names that are rostered in the majority of Yahoo leagues out there that we think people should cut bait on at this moment.
38:03I just don't want to do that to your rosters right now after you think a optimistic thought on every single one
38:09of them because you drafted them for a reason.
38:11So we're going to let the chips fall in week one.
38:15We'll be back here to deliver the bad news next Monday night.
38:18Joel, thanks for doing this with me all season long.
38:21Thank you. Where they can find you and your work because I know on socials, you're at Fancy Smith with a Y in Smith.
38:28Yep. On Twitter, XFantasySmith, just Joel Smith on TikTok and Instagram.
38:31So come watch videos. I'll have about four or five social videos a week, if not more.
38:36There it is. All right, everyone. Thanks for tuning in.
38:39We'll see you next time.