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2:09Free getting to Matthew Berry right here in the lounge presented by Lily.
2:13Well, Michelle Beadle, Mo Hassan, I'm Matthew Berry. And it's 1 o'clock here on the East Coast, which means, of course, it's 5 o'clock somewhere.
2:20Crazy. The happy hour officially open. Time to get happy hour started here in the lounge.
2:25And it was a crazy week for Beats. Yes.
2:27Okay, so I want to just start generically because we've got the Sundays in the books now.
2:32What are your biggest fantasy headlines from the weekend?
2:35Well, first off, okay, number one is it was a brutal injury weekend.
2:38Like, I just feel like through four weeks, it has been a worse injury year than ever before.
2:43Just too many big-name stars going down early. Every year there's brutal injuries, but it felt like, especially this Sunday, just incredibly
2:50another brutal injury week in terms of big-name stars leaving the game early.
2:53Number two headline, Ted Oroa-McMillan. This is the breakout game we've been waiting for, finally making good on his early draft status.
3:00Ted Oroa-McMillan dominates the Lions. Unbelievable game. Huge games for CeeDee Lamb.
3:03I call him eights. Huge game for my guy, eights, and Javante Williams, the Cowboys, roll over whatever the Texans call a defense.
3:09Number four, Drake Maye bounces back. Just in time for everyone that's like, all right, fine, I'm done.
3:15I'm putting him on my bench. Now that he's sitting on everyone's bench, like Beatles, he finally goes off.
3:20But at least you didn't drop him. And so Drake May bouncing back.
3:24And then number five, the complete collapse of this Eagles offense.
3:27So those are my five headlines here. Okay, those are the five.
3:30And you're right, he was on my bench. So Drake May, if you're watching, you're welcome.
3:35That's what did it. Yeah, I cursed you. So that being said, we're going to- No, you uncursed him.
3:40Thank you. Well, yeah, it depends on how you look at it.
3:43At playing him, I had cursed him. You're right.
3:46You know what? Glass half full. Thank you. Thank you, Beatle.
3:49Okay, I don't mind that. You took one for the team.
3:52And I still did okay. To allow everyone in the fantasy managers to go off.
3:56You know? Yes, they did. Selfless, Beatle. Thank you.
3:59Thank you, Moe. But you're not sharing your eggs.
4:02Look at this. I know, I have two hard-boiled eggs.
4:04To the lounge, we brought protein. And not sharing.
4:07I mean, like- This is the unsexiest moment in history.
4:10I mean, seriously, Beatle. We've got a little stash back here.
4:13Yeah. Things going on. I mean, like, just tell me you're an old lady without telling me you're an old lady.
4:19Would anybody like a hard-boiled egg? What are you doing?
4:22And Beatle brought- For people that are listening at home, Beatle brought- Oh, that's true.
4:26She hasn't eaten it yet. Too set. She hasn't eaten either of them.
4:30She's been trying to pawn them off on me and Moe.
4:33She offered one of them to me. And I'm like, you only brought two.
4:37You did your Pilates this morning. I know. Get your protein in.
4:40Come on now. Also, I'm concerned if you, like, if you cook them properly.
4:44First of all, everyone knows how to make great hard-boiled eggs.
4:47It's a 12-minute rule. You set a timer. God, Moe.
4:50It's like you don't know anything. I just don't.
4:52All right. All right. Let's get to injuries. We're going to start with injuries.
4:56The list is not great, as you just mentioned.
4:59So, again, sorry to everyone on this list, but from a fantasy perspective, what does it mean?
5:04Yeah. I mean, like, so Lamar Jackson with the ankles.
5:07Saquon Barkley with a hammy. He left early. Jamar Chase, that concussion.
5:10He's in concussion protocol. Tee Higgins with an abductor injury.
5:13That was a new one. Rasheed Rice also left early with a hamstring.
5:17Lad McConkie and DJ Moore also left the games early.
5:19So, a lot of big stars. A lot of people that were in your lineups here.
5:24Again, so Lamar Jackson's considered a day-to-day, so that's pretty good.
5:27We don't know on Saquon Barkley, although Ian Rappaport reporting it doesn't seem to be, quote, overly serious.
5:32We'll see if that means he misses any time as well.
5:35We've talked about the concussion protocol a lot on this show.
5:38He's in the concussion protocol. It's a nonlinear injury.
5:41He could be back this week. He could miss a month.
5:44We just don't know how serious this concussion is with Jamar Chase.
5:47And Tee Higgins, his teammate, leaves with that abductor injury.
5:50They do have a week six bye. So, if he's to miss one game, maybe, if nothing else, they're back hopefully by week seven.
5:57And Rasheed Rice, along with Tyquan Thornton, who was having a huge game against the Raiders, all of a sudden the 4-0
6:03Chiefs are really thin at wide receiver. We'll see how serious this is with Rasheed Rice.
6:08But there are rumors that Tyreek Hill, his agent coming out saying he could sign with the team this week.
6:13I wonder if there's a reunion in Kansas City happening as well.
6:17Well, McConkie and DJ Moore, we're going to talk a little bit more about Keon Coleman coming up here on the show.
6:23But, yeah. None of them seem to be super serious.
6:26No season-ending injuries, at least as of this taping.
6:28But that was my number one headline. Just brutal.
6:31It was just brutal. Big names. Big, big names.
6:34Well, there were a lot of what happened was in leagues.
6:37I had Jamar Chase in a league. I had Lamar Jackson in another league.
6:41So, you have these big-name players that leave early.
6:43And then you're also facing, like there's some monster games.
6:46Like whether it's Javonta Williams or CeeDee Lamb. Or we'll get into some of them, right?
6:51But, like, you know, Hubbard. And, like, just some of these.
6:54So, Ted Rowe and McMillan. You face these huge games.
6:57And you're like, meanwhile, I'm over here with, like, you know, zeros.
7:00Because the guys left early. Yeah, I mean, it's next man up.
7:03So, what does that mean for the offense, right?
7:06Like, there's instances where the receiver goes out. And then the running back's going to get increased.
7:11I mean, we're going to talk about the Bengals with Chase Brown.
7:14And what that means for the Ravens as well.
7:17So, it's always an X-Man up opportunity. Glass half full kind of guys.
7:20You guys are very negative over here. No, I'm trying.
7:23I'm looking at who we need to pick up, all right?
7:26That's why. Yeah, but you could pick guys up that are going to benefit your team.
7:31Sure, good. But we're talking about, you know. Or trust what you have.
7:34We're talking about Sunday. And so, that was one of the big headlines.
7:38Do you think it's like just sort of because we're all in the moment?
7:42Or do we do this with all sports? Do you sometimes have, like, a week like this, right?
7:47Where we have a lot of big name injuries.
7:50And you're like, God, I don't remember it ever being this bad.
7:53But I feel like we say that every year.
7:56Yeah, I feel like we do too. Probably. It's just bad.
7:59It's hard. It's a violent game. The worst part is the quarterbacks because that's what everyone's tuning in to watch.
8:04I mean, you have a top two quarterback in Lamar.
8:07You have a top ten running back in Saquon.
8:10A top two wide receiver in Jamar Chase. You know, a top 12, I believe, wide receiver in Tee Higgins.
8:16Yeah. Rasheed Rice and Lad McConkie went, you know, among the top 15-ish of wide receivers as well.
8:21So, it's just been tough. And which leads me to the second headline because one of the reasons why he went off
8:27was an injury to Jalen Coker who was inactive for the game.
8:30Yep. Who was on my bench. But yes, Mr.
8:33McMillan had a nice little career night. Does that change anything for you moving forward past today?
8:38A little bit, right? I mean, but not significantly so.
8:40So, here's the positives, right, of Ted O'erreo and McMillan.
8:4341% target share. 46% of the team's air yards.
8:46He had a 98 utilization score. He was out there a lot and Bryce Young kept finding him.
8:51Now, it was against Detroit, right? Lions are one of the worst teams in the NFL.
8:55They're bottom three in receptions, yards, points allowed to wide receivers.
8:59No Jalen Coker. Coke heads unite. And, you know what, look again, like so you see sort of the scoring leaders of the week four wide receivers, right?
9:06So, after McMillan, it's my guy, 8, CeeDee Lamb, Nico Collins, Taequann Thornton, and welcome back Puka Nakua.
9:129 for 125 and a touch. So, the positives for me on Ted O'erreo and McMillan are, you know, at least he's
9:18had at least 75 yards in three of the four games so far this season.
9:22He's had four end zone targets in his past three games.
9:25So, I do think he's like a legitimate, like, you know, wide receiver too.
9:29The concern here is that this is literally his second career game with 20 fantasy points.
9:34I think he is more of a floor play than an upside play despite the massive game here.
9:39Like, if somebody's willing to give you top 10 wide receiver value for Ted O'erreo and McMillan, I don't mind making that offer.
9:45I don't mind selling high because I think this is his best game of the season.
9:50When, like, I'm a believer in Dave Canales and I'm a believer in Bryce Young, but they're not always going to play
9:56the Lions and they're not always going to have Coker not being out there.
10:00So, I think you've seen McMillan's best game of the season.
10:03But, again, insanely talented player who was drafted in the first round for a reason.
10:07I agree with you. He's not going to top 45 points because that's a ton, but I still think he's going to produce the rest of the season.
10:15When he is fed with nine plus targets, he has gone absolutely nuts.
10:19Right? And it kind of reminds me, like, my head coach in college, just random side story, but he'd be like, open
10:25your mouth and let me feed you. And we're all like, what the hell are you saying?
10:30Right? But speaking of feeding. I would never do well with a coach.
10:34It kind of became a joke. Not just coaches.
10:36I started laughing. Okay. Did you laugh or was everyone, like, in it?
10:40Yeah. Everyone just kind of looked at me. I was like, what the hell just happened?
10:44It just kind of becomes a joke the rest of the season.
10:48But this dude's getting fed. Right? And, like, they just have a connection, especially with Coker.
10:52You mentioned it. That plays a big role. But nine plus targets, seven career games.
10:57He's averaging 22 and a half points in those games, 109 yards and seven catches.
11:01And I do think that usage will remain relatively consistent, depending on Coker.
11:05But still, I mean, it also depends on scheme and the way Canales is using him.
11:09He uses him a lot in the slot. I love when coaches have big bodies in the slot because then we get those nickel corners.
11:16These guys are like 5'10", 5'11". That's a mismatch.
11:19He's winning one-on-one routes. He's also getting open in zone.
11:22Bryce Young's playing the best football of his career.
11:24I think that's going to continue as well. They pointed this out in the broadcast, too.
11:29Young gets up the ball so quickly. And so when he's running those quick slants against – right.
11:34He's a big, tall guy against those – right.
11:36And with Hubbard playing well, those linebackers are coming up.
11:39So it's all RPO game. That's the same thing he did at Alabama.
11:43He's just comfortable in what he's doing. Yeah. I'm glad you mentioned Hubbard.
11:46Chuba Hubbard, another big game for the Panthers. RB1, yes, no?
11:50The Chubbler. I think he's a borderline RB1, right?
11:52So in the two games since Jonathan Brooks went on the IR, you know, he's averaging over 20 fantasy points per game.
11:58He's got, you know, close to 240 scrimmage yards.
12:01He's had 44 touches. So, you know, massive RB1-type workload.
12:04In terms of utilization score, he's running back eight.
12:06So they're using him. He's giving them that kind of workload.
12:09Now they're on a bye this week, and then they play the Eagles.
12:13So, you know, it's a little bit tougher. But what I did say on social media here is that – I put
12:19this out as a tweet when I was seeing Hubbard.
12:22Like, in the pre-season, we talked a lot about, like, who's this year's Devontae Williams, right?
12:27Just that – like, think about last year. Devontae Williams was a running back that, like, people were like, is he going to be the starter in Dallas?
12:35Who knows? You know, he's kind of boring. He was bad the year before.
12:39Like, just who's that boring, bad the year before running back whose talent and role we're sort of uncertain of, and he
12:45just goes in the middle rounds, and no one's ever excited to draft him?
12:49Last year, that was Devontae Williams and paid off.
12:51And I think this year, the answer to whose last year's Devontae Williams, it's Chuba Hubbard.
12:56It's the chubbler. I don't know that Jonathan Brooks – We have yet to see Jonathan Brooks be good in the NFL.
13:02We have seen Chuba Hubbard be good in the NFL for extended periods of time.
13:06There's a reason the Panthers paid him this kind of money.
13:09So, low-end RB1? Yes. But I do think he is a borderline RB1.
13:13Yeah, I'm not mad at the Devontae comparison because it's electric offenses that are going to score a lot and not the
13:19sexiest running back, but you are the lead back in that explosive offense.
13:23So, yeah, I like that comparison as well. I mean, the concern was always, like, is it going to be committee, right?
13:29Because there was Brooks, there's A.J. Dillon, there's Chuba.
13:32Chubbler, if you don't know. The Chubbler. Yeah, the Chubbinator.
13:35Do you not like the name of the Chubbler?
13:37I just said – it's not my favorite. How about that?
13:40Do you think he would like it? Probably. Yeah, I think so.
13:44We could ask him. I'm a positive person. I believe so.
13:47It's true, Adam. I mean, listen. He took a command.
13:50It's no Brown Gobbler, but as nicknames go, I think it's pretty good.
13:53It's a good thing you don't believe nicknames. The Chubbler.
13:56Nope. But he is on my team, and I do – I'm excited about my Chubbler.
14:01Like, how's that? Like, if just – like, you just talk – like, think about it, Beatle.
14:05Like, if he's on your team, you got it.
14:08Like, it's just – you know, it's exciting. Yeah.
14:11Right? It rolls off the tongue. Yeah. Come on, Beatle.
14:13Come on, Beatle. I will not take this bait.
14:16I am above it. Here's what's great. You really aren't.
14:19I know. I'm not at all. My brain is like, wow.
14:22I can't believe for the first time in our life, Beatle decided to be an adult.
14:26I know. That was really hard. Cowboys. We know.
14:29Ats. And Javante Williams. So, takeaways from both those performances.
14:32Yeah. I think the concern here – to me, the – you know, listen.
14:36C.D. Lamb's awesome, right? Yeah. You know. Right? Shout out.
14:39Yeah. And it's third straight – it's his third straight game with at least seven receptions and 100 receiving yards.
14:44He's had 50% of the team's end zone targets on the season as well.
14:48I know, to me, the biggest takeaway isn't that C.D.
14:51Lamb's awesome because, like, no duh. Yeah. But, no, look, the – this is not – I don't think this is a fluke because the defense is terrible.
14:59They're going to constantly have to be in scoring.
15:02I think the bigger concern out of the performances of the Cowboys isn't that C.D.
15:06Lamb's awesome because we know he is. Isn't it Javante Williams had a big deal?
15:10Because, again, they'll be in scoring position often. It's George Pickens, two for 75.
15:14Like, he's had more than – he's had one game, literally one game this entire season with double fantasy points.
15:20I actually still think he's an obvious buy low, but he's had a 20% target share at least in three out of four games so far this season.
15:28He's wide receiver 26 in utilization score. So it's a little bit down, but I don't think you're going to have to
15:34– this is a guy that was being drafted as a top 10 fantasy wide receiver this season.
15:39I think you can certainly get him for significantly less than that.
15:42I'm just – I'm a believer in his talent and this Cowboys offense as well.
15:47I might try to buy low on George Pickens, Moe, and I might try to sell high on Javante Williams.
15:52Again, again, they're going to be in scoring position often.
15:55He scored a lot of touchdowns last year, but so far this season, 44% of his points are on touchdowns.
16:01He's very touchdown dependent. And I think they'll score a lot and they like to use him there, but you'd like to
16:07see more of a skill set other than just he happens to be the guy who gets the ball.
16:12And you think they're going to continue throwing the ball because that defense isn't great.
16:17They're going to be playing from behind, which leads us to those wide receivers.
16:21Talked about Seedy. Tied for seventh most catches in an NFL game in NFL history.
16:25I mean, that's absolutely unreal. So what does that mean for Pickens?
16:28I have to have some level of belief in defenses adjusting, right?
16:32There's no way when you're playing against a wide receiver that has nearly 50% target share that you're not going to start bracketing that guy.
16:39And Dak does a really good job of going to second and third options.
16:43I agree with you. I think buy low candidate for Pickens is a really good opportunity.
16:47He's too good and that offense is too good that he's going to be, quote unquote, this bad, this disappointing.
16:53I was happy to see him catch the long one again.
16:56Again, under 3.5 yards per carry for Javante Williams in three out of four games so far this season.
17:01He's not super efficient. He's getting all the goal line work.
17:04And you think about Dave Montgomery in week number one.
17:07He scores the three touchdowns. I just, I don't think, I think Javante Williams is much closer to an RB2 than he is an RB1.
17:14And right now he looks like an RB1. So if somebody's willing to give me, I'm not saying Javante Williams is going
17:21to have a ton of value the rest of the year.
17:24He's obviously going to. But again, I would value him as an RB2 the rest of the way.
17:29I think you might be able to get RB1 prices.
17:32So I don't mind. If somebody's willing to give you a top 10 overall player for Javante Williams, let me have it.
17:38That's it. Drake May has been top of the conversation all last week.
17:42And a lot of us benched him. Yeah. And by a lot of us, we mean you.
17:46Yeah. Well, I'm not the only one. There's no way I'm going.
17:50No, everyone did. But talk to me. Listen, in all fairness, I gave that advice.
17:54People ask me, like, Barry, what am I doing with Drake May?
17:57And I said, you are not dropping him, but you are benching him.
18:01See? I listen. There was nothing we had seen in the previous three weeks that gave you any confidence in this Patriots
18:07offense playing Buffalo, especially given the fact that, honestly, Moe Romeo Dobbs hadn't played well.
18:12He wasn't getting, in addition to sort of the yips and the turnovers with Drake May, he wasn't getting any help from his pass catchers as well here.
18:19But I thought, you know, I thought he looked good.
18:22He had 54 rushing yards. Season highs not only in passing yards, but also in rushing.
18:27So 269 through the air, 54 on the ground.
18:29And got helped out. Listen, it took a couple of unbelievable catches.
18:33One handed by Romeo Dobbs. One handed by Eli Raritan.
18:36But, Moe, to me, he looked closer to the 2025 version of Drake May we've seen.
18:40Is it going to stay? I think so. There was three things, right?
18:44Number one was the turnovers. The fumble is on him.
18:47There's no way around that. That interception bounced off of Dobbs' hands.
18:50So he took care of the football, which he hasn't been doing the latter part of last season and the beginning of this season.
18:57The second is the rushing yards. He's using his legs.
19:00Yeah, exactly. He's very underrated in that element. 54 rushing yards.
19:03Even in the red zone, I think he's going to start using that a little bit more.
19:08Opportunities for rushing touchdowns. And then the second is his confidence down in the red zone as well because that's where a lot of those turnovers came from.
19:16We mentioned earlier, he throws that fade. He checks it to himself.
19:19That's a lot of trust on a third down situation.
19:22I know you said it was a one handed catch by Chiz, but that's a good ball.
19:27That's just the only place that could have gone was right here.
19:30And he held his other hand, so he had no other choice.
19:33So you're saying the throw was amazing? The ball placement, I think both were great.
19:38But we're overlooking the throw and the confidence to throw that on third down in the red zone.
19:43When everyone's talking terrible about you, saying we need to bench you, you're turning the ball over.
19:48The confidence is back. That's what I see. And that's the biggest thing, Moe.
19:51I mean, you talk about this more than either Michelle or I can, but in terms of just having confidence.
19:57Like, Drake May's not stupid. He knows he hasn't played well.
20:00He knows there's media swirling around. There's a lot of fans and media questioning.
20:04His coach doesn't really want to answer questions about him.
20:07It's just none of it's great, right? And so not only does he produce on a fantasy level, which is what we
20:13care about, but to your point about confidence, like they won this game.
20:17Like, they played the Buffalo Bills. He went toe-to-toe with Josh Allen, with proud fantasy life investor and number one quarterback in the NFL and fantasy, Josh Allen.
20:25And he won. They were down in the fourth quarter, and he led them to a score, and ultimately the Patriots win this game.
20:32And so I think just from a real-life NFL perspective, Drake May winning this game against Buffalo, against a division rival, a
20:38legitimate Super Bowl contender in the Bills, I think that goes a long way for his confidence.
20:43It's worth, like, three games because it was Buffalo.
20:45Yeah. Like, that's the confidence boost. It's like a three-gamer.
20:48Plus, it's at Buffalo, like you mentioned, against your division rival.
20:51How about with—that's without A.J. Brown. You're down weapons on the perimeter.
20:55Your offensive line's banged up. They hadn't been playing well.
20:57What's he going to look like as he continues to elevate?
21:01And then you bring in maybe a top-10 wide receiver in terms of talent out there, a guy that you can really
21:07trust to win one-on-one matchups, that can make you look better, too, down the field.
21:11I mean, look, I think there's a ton of upside off of this game.
21:15No question. By the way, other side of the ball is as long as we just talked about this game real quickly.
21:21D.J. Moore leaves this game early. Kian Coleman's up taking over.
21:2423% target share for Coleman. Six receptions in two of the past three games.
21:28Now, we'll talk about a little bit more coming up later in the show.
21:32I want to talk a little bit more about Dalton Kincaid.
21:35But Kian Coleman, first-round pick. It was nice to see him, Mo, finally, you know— Breakout game.
21:40A little bit of a breakout game. Again, I feel like we've seen this.
21:44If D.J. Moore is going to miss time, Ken Coleman, we'll talk about him a little bit later in the show, and
21:50we'll also talk about him tomorrow on the Waver Wire show.
21:54But he's going to be very popular, rightfully so.
21:56Pickup option this week. He's available more than 50% of leagues.
21:59Dalton Kincaid, by the way, another tough game for him.
22:02Started the season so hot, but just a 9% target share each of the last two weeks.
22:07I don't know if that just was a one-game kind of thing or the last two games.
22:12It's weird. But ran just 56% of the routes on Dalton Kincaid.
22:15I don't have a great answer on him other than— It's weird, right?
22:19It's a weird one. Two games in a row, Kincaid has—after starting the season so hot, all of a sudden— I think
22:25you have to hold that hope that— Who is he is what you're asking?
22:29Yeah, that Joe Brady goes back to the tape and says, like, all right, we need to get this guy more involved because it didn't work out.
22:37Last two weeks, four points combined. And then weeks one and two, 34 and a half.
22:41So you're like, what on earth is going on?
22:44Who is this player? But I think to your point, Joe Brady, if you watch the presser, he said, quote, I've got
22:50to find a way to get the ball in his hand.
22:53So I think a lot of it's scheme, just getting your playmakers the ball.
22:57It's good that he's acknowledging it and understanding, like, we need to get our weapons involved more.
23:02So that, to me, makes me a little bit hopeful, especially with DJ Moore out, too.
23:06I want to start with you, Mo, because on this next one, because you are such a positive spirit.
23:12Sometimes. The Eagles offense. Jalen Hurts. Panic level for them.
23:14What do you have? I'm panicking. Okay. Because typically I am positive, but, I mean, if there's no place to be positive, I mean, how could you?
23:22You have 93 passing yards. This is the worst start to a Philadelphia Eagles offense in, I believe, this century, statistically.
23:28It's unbelievable. I just think, what's your identity on offense?
23:31Typically you're going to be running the ball with Saquon.
23:34He's out. They haven't been able to do that.
23:36Offensive line has been abysmal. Sean Mannion, his whole thing coming in is like, we're going to bring the Shanahan style.
23:42We're going to be under center, play outside zone.
23:45And they just haven't been able to do that.
23:47They're one of the worst offenses under center in the entire NFL.
23:51So, I mean, we talk about Tank Bigsby coming in and Will Shipley.
23:54I think they're going to be able to help as well.
23:58But I just think they're very predictable as well.
24:00They have no second half adjustments. They have no plan against any kind of blitz.
24:04The Rams clearly at halftime, they said, we're going to blitz the hell out of them.
24:09And they weren't able to convert a third down the entire football game.
24:13I think this is just coaching malpractice from top to bottom.
24:16And Jalen needs to play better as well, but it starts with coaching.
24:19Yeah, I don't want to panic too much on the Eagles.
24:22But listen, they're now 0 for 17 on third down, dating back to the second half of last week against the Bears.
24:290 for 17 on third down. Jalen Hurts doesn't look like himself.
24:32We'll see if Saquon's back. By the way, they're on the road at Jacksonville next week.
24:37Like, that is a tough matchup, right? That is a tough matchup.
24:40Over the last three weeks, QB 21. Jalen Hurts is QB 21 on a points-per-game basis.
24:45He's averaging just 14 fantasy points per game. And so it also seems like, and this is just, you know, sad, it
24:51seems like Devontae Smith is going to miss multiple weeks.
24:54He did not play in this one. The concern is this hamstring injury is more serious than we thought.
24:59So, you know, there's a chance. I don't know that there is any Eagles player that is a must start.
25:05I think that you are likely still starting Jalen Hurts.
25:07You are likely still starting Saquon Barkley if he's back, right?
25:11Regardless of matchup. But, like, I might pause at least just a second to see who else I had on my team.
25:17Because, again, on the road to Jacksonville is really, really tough.
25:20And as we just talked about it, this is a team that has, on the season, a 31% offensive play success rate.
25:26They're averaging three yards per play. So, yeah, there's not an Eagle where I feel like I don't care.
25:32I'm just automatically starting him. You're very likely starting Saquon and Hurts.
25:35But at least this week, on the road to Jacksonville, that's a tough matchup.
25:39That's a tough matchup. I don't know if you guys do this.
25:42Do you ever, like, look at the headshots as we're talking about topics?
25:46Like, it's kind of fun. This is just a me thing.
25:49Like, his looks, that doesn't look like him to me.
25:52He looks old. He looks a lot older in that.
25:55He does look a lot older in that. He looks a lot older in that.
25:59But it's just fun to look at. Just start paying attention.
26:02It's part of my... He's stressed. He doesn't look stressed.
26:05Kyron Williams. Is he starting to separate himself for you in that Rams backfield?
26:09Yeah, he really is. Over the last two weeks, he's playing 76% of the snaps.
26:13He's out touching Blake Corum 47-14. You know, over the past two weeks, he's the second best running back in utilization score.
26:19And more importantly, they're using him in the passing game.
26:22Double-digit target share in three of the four games he's played so far this season.
26:26The Blake Corum preseason argument was, the Rams are going to be blowing these teams out, and they're going to be up
26:33in the second half, so they're going to be running a lot, and they're going to want to save Kyron Williams, so
26:39you're going to see a lot of Blake Corum in the second half.
26:43Well, that just hasn't happened. They're just... They're not...
26:45They had to come back from the Eagles. Like, they're...
26:48You know, they... Like, they're 2-2 and barely. So that's part of the...
26:52As well. But yes, Kyron Williams is back to being an RB1.
26:55He's just agreeing with you. He agrees with me.
26:58I know. That's going to do it for the headlines.
27:00We're going to break. Yeah. Producer Damien says we have to go to break.
27:04It's his fault. My bad. Weekend Warriors. Next. Yeah.
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28:59Here's the good news. Oh, God. You know what?
29:02I ate the eggs. This is creative. And now I'll never eat another egg.
29:06Yeah, screw you guys. That is disgusting. I know.
29:08I love you. And it looks. Is that supposed to be your face?
29:12It is my face. What do you think it's supposed to be his face?
29:16What do you think it is? Yeah, of course it's my face.
29:19Who did that? That is warped. Yeah, it says, sorry, America, you'll never eat another hard-boiled egg.
29:24That's right. Was this a Jess idea? Just thinking about my face.
29:28Look, I got a... Why is it yellow? I definitely have a conehead, you know, Grandpa Simpson kind of noggin here.
29:34There's no question. Well, can I be optimistic for a second, Matthew?
29:37What we can do with this? This is kind of like, if you were thinking about shaving your head completely, this is
29:43sort of like a good idea of what that could be.
29:46That's my fear, honestly, but look how pointy it is.
29:49My fear is that, like, it's a little pointy.
29:52Like, I definitely like, if you ever see Grandpa Simpson, I look sadly like Grandpa Simpson.
29:56I'm a little... I got a little Grandpa Simpson going on, which is...
30:00Worst things to look like, though. Not many, to be perfectly honest.
30:03Thanks for ruining hard-boiled eggs for me, whoever's idea.
30:06Either Jess or Blake. And eggs. I got more.
30:08She still ate them. She still hasn't eaten them, though, so screw you.
30:12You know what? Why would you bring it to the set?
30:15You had an hour to eat them. You had an hour...
30:18This is DJ Gallo's project. Yeah, you had an hour to eat them, Beetle, and you didn't have an hour to ruin for you.
30:25That's fine. Guys, here's the deal. Step one, bring the eggs.
30:28Tomorrow, step two, eat the eggs. Like, it's just baby steps.
30:31I'll eat it. Again. Weekend Warriors. Before we get to Weekend Warriors, real quickly, one last thing here.
30:36Good God. Just to clean up last week... No, last segment, I talked about Hurts and the Jaguars game.
30:42That game is actually in London. I think I said it was at Jacksonville.
30:46The Jags are the home team. Basically, it is.
30:48It's London also. The Jags are technically the home team, but the game is in London.
30:53I just want to clean that up. And shout out to Cobra Kyger, who brings up when I mentioned Hurts.
30:59He said, listen, he had two starting linemen out.
31:01He had top wide receiver, running back and tight and out.
31:04Obviously, Barkley, Goddard, Cobra Kyger, but the fact of the matter is, I don't know that that's not happening again.
31:10That's the concern. Yeah. Yeah, it might happen again.
31:12He may not have... I don't think he's going to have Goddard back.
31:16I don't think he's going to have Smith back.
31:19He may not have Barkley back. I don't know about Lane Johnson.
31:22I just... Anyway, there's concern here. This could be reality for a second.
31:26Weekend Warriors. Weekend Warriors, running backs, there's your list.
31:28Matthew, take us through the list and then start, please, with Kenneth Walker because...
31:32K-9. Got to be the top running back right now, right?
31:35Yeah, I mean, he was a finalist for my ride or die.
31:39I kind of wish I'd made him my ride or die.
31:42After four weeks, he's the second best running back in fantasy football.
31:45He's at least 21 fantasy points in all four games.
31:48So it's not just... It's not just, oh man, this guy's good.
31:52He's been consistently good. Week in, week out. He's averaging almost 25 touches a game and a 16% target share.
31:57That's the most important thing, Mo, is they use him in the passing game as well.
32:02Yeah, I mean, I was as surprised as anyone.
32:04I feel like I was watching this game. I was like, has he always been this good?
32:09Because the Seahawks were kind of having split carries.
32:12I was like, I always saw K-9 as this big physical back.
32:15I didn't see him as this explosive guy. And right now, he's got the highest percentage of carries in the NFL with 20 plus.
32:22He's not good. He told me, I'd be like, no, that's not kind of a walker.
32:26He's always been an explosive guy. He's always been a guy that like...
32:30But he wasn't rattling off those long runs, I feel like.
32:33No, he's somewhat in Seattle. The biggest thing was, were they going to use him in the passing game?
32:39And on the preseason here on the happy hour, we talked to our friend Dan Graziano, who was at Chiefs camp, who
32:45literally told everyone that was listening in the preseason to happy hour, like, yes, they will use Ken Walker the preseason.
32:51Like, we... I was significantly ahead of Walker. Listen, you want to yell at me at Colston Loveland?
32:56And I get it. You have every right to.
32:58But if you listen to me, you should also have Ken Walker on your team.
33:03Because I had him significantly ahead of consensus. And so you're welcome, America.
33:06How could you not? He's going to win Offense Player of the Year.
33:10He should. He absolutely should. I get it. I'll never get why he was allowed to switch teams.
33:15It's a lot of money for a running back.
33:18I know, but man, you've got to feel a little foolish right now, right?
33:22They took a first-rounder and he's been hurt. Oh, it's just crazy.
33:25All right, starting with you, Bears, Kyle Menangai. Menangai.
33:28Not Swift, by the way, leading the way. So are we seeing a little change here?
33:32Yeah, if you like physical running, you're going to love Kyle Menangai.
33:35I mean, I'm surprised this guy went seventh round.
33:38If you watch him at Rutgers, he had a really good career over there.
33:42I watched that bowl game against Miami. Ran all over really physical defense.
33:46Through two years in the Big Ten, no fumbles.
33:48Yeah, it's 681 carries between college and NFL, no fumbles, which leads us to DeAndre Swift, who fumbled.
33:53And then Menangai gets the next 30 carries. That is a statement from Ben Johnson.
33:58Now the question is, what does this mean for the future, right?
34:01I don't think he's going to get 30 carries again, but what he will get is those red zone carries because of how physical he is.
34:08Yeah, second game this season that DeAndre Swift had a fumble, to your point, he did not play after fumbling on the first drive of the third quarter.
34:16And Ben Johnson clarified after the game, it was not injury-related.
34:19So he was benched for the fumbling DeAndre Swift was.
34:22Now, Kyle Menangai left this game with a thumb injury, but he's had at least 12 touches in three out of four games this year.
34:29He's certainly earned a bigger role. Is he going to be the lead back as he's replacing DeAndre Swift?
34:35I'm not sure about that. Again, Keith Keenum led them to a victory, and then here comes Tyson Bajan.
34:40You know what I mean? So Ben Johnson may have just sat Swift down to teach him a lesson, and it'll go back to what normal.
34:47But the fact is, is Menangai has earned a bigger role moving forward, assuming he is healthy.
34:52We'll keep following that thumb injury. That's a tough lesson.
34:55Also, Coach, you didn't have to say it wasn't injury-related.
34:58He was asked. I just said no comment. I know, that hurts my feelings.
35:02Emmanuel Wilson, nice game filling in for Price. Outlook there for Seattle?
35:05Yeah, we talked about Emmanuel Wilson on Fantasy Football Happy Hour last call.
35:09We do it Sunday morning, every Sunday morning, noon to 1 Eastern on the Matthew Barry YouTube channel, me and Alex Cupps from FantasyLife.com.
35:16But of the 32 running back touches for the Seahawks, Emmanuel Wilson handled 24 of them.
35:20He got 100% of the team's red zone and goal line work.
35:24Each of the past three games he's led this backfield, Jadarian Price has now banged up.
35:28He's going to miss some time. So Emmanuel Wilson suddenly becomes like the lead running back on a good offense and now he gets the Chargers this week.
35:36Really good short-term opportunity, just uneasy about it long-term because of all those guys.
35:40You mentioned Charbonnet, etc. Charbonnet, his win-and-return has come back, has opened, yep.
35:44In the short-term, 21 attempts in two of the last four games.
35:47And like you said, a really good offense that like to establish the run.
35:51So until Price comes back, yeah, of course, I love Emmanuel Wilson.
35:54Now, their upcoming schedule is not easy. Home to San Francisco at Denver, home to Kansas City are the next three.
36:00So, like again, he's probably more of a flex play based on matchup, but the workload is there for Emmanuel Wilson.
36:06Let's go to you, Mo. The rookie, Carnell Tate, had a nice, nice game against Baltimore.
36:11Tater Tot. Carnell Tate. How about that? For a food game?
36:14Yeah, yeah. Is that a big name for real?
36:17No, I just made it up. I just made it up.
36:20Tater Tot. On the spot. Off the dome. That's how it happens.
36:23That's pretty much what this show is. Pretty much all this show is, B.
36:27I feel like, I feel like Carnell Tate, career game, it was bound to happen.
36:31One of the best route runners I think I've thrown with too, and so really cool to see him kind of separate within this offense.
36:38So you've thrown with Carnell Tate. That's where it came from.
36:41I've worked out. So you could technically try to get this name to stick because you've interacted.
36:46You have a cell. You could text him. Yeah, you could actually ask, hey, do you like this?
36:51I haven't thrown it out yet because I literally just came up with it, but we could tell him right now.
36:57Maybe in the break. Maybe in the break. Maybe in the break.
37:01But look, the fact of the matter is that Cam Ward is getting to a level of respectability where he can at
37:07least get the ball to Carnell Tate, who's an insanely talented wide receiver.
37:11They're bad and they're going to be down. The Titans are.
37:14They're going to be throwing a lot. So Carnell Tate, who gets a 43% target share in this one, his third straight
37:20game with an above 25% target share as well.
37:23They're throwing the ball to him down the field.
37:25His average up at the target is over 10 yards in three of the four games he's played this season.
37:31So when you think about the fact they're home to Houston this week, again, a Houston's defense that isn't as scary, at
37:37the Colts, home to Cleveland, at Cincinnati. So there's certainly a lot of teams that can put up points on the Titans.
37:43So yeah, give me some Carnell Tate. I think this is more legit than not.
37:47Yeah, and just if you look at big picture NFL, like his usage and targets are ridiculous.
37:52I mean, Cam loves him. Second in air yards, you said this is entire NFL.
37:56Fifth in target share. The only other rookie wide receivers to do that have been, since 2016, are Neighbors, Drake, and Puka.
38:03I mean, that is great company right there. That's a pretty good list.
38:06And six in total yards. I mean, total targets rather.
38:09Right, tater tot. We'll try. No Justin Jefferson, of course.
38:12TJ Hodginson, who you did mention last week before the weekend started, led the team with 13 catches.
38:17Moving forward, does that change anything? Yeah, I mean, I think so.
38:21I think he's now on the tight end one radar, right?
38:24He's had at least a 21% target share in three out of four games so far this season.
38:2913 receptions, that ties a career high. We've talked about the fact that Kyler Murray likes the tight end.
38:34Like, we've seen it in Arizona. He tends to throw to the tight end.
38:38And so, Hawkinson, again, obviously Jefferson being out helped in the matchup also pretty good.
38:42But make no mistake, Hawkinson was somebody that was considered an elite tight end, had a very serious injury.
38:48It's taken him a little while to get back, but seems like they're finally sort of discovering him.
38:53On the season, he's got a 44% target share in the red zone here.
38:57And so, yeah, this is a little bit of a breakout game for TJ Hawkinson.
39:01Started the season a little bit slow, but I think this is, this may be his, wind up being his best game of the season.
39:08I don't think he's getting 13 receptions every week.
39:11Right. But do I think he's a borderline tight end one with Kyler Murray under center in this offense?
39:16I do. Yeah, big game, 24 points. It would have been even better if he didn't take that knee on the one yard line.
39:23I mean, that was a gamey touchdown. That was brutal.
39:26So you have to factor that in. Fantasy heartbreak.
39:28Yeah, brutal. I also think, like, Kyler's not playing great.
39:31You have to expect him to at least elevate maybe minimum 10 to 15%, which I think just brings everyone up as well.
39:38So I think that offense is going to rise in total.
39:41He loves TJ Hawkinson. He's kind of like his new Trey McBride.
39:44He just loves tight end play. There's something about having that security blanket.
39:48So, very optimistic about TJ. I'm going to start with you on my, look, Miami's Miami is not going to always be
39:54a little positive, but we do have an Ollie Gordon moment that we can sort of glob onto if you want to.
40:00Is there a reason to be more optimistic with him?
40:03This is one where stats kind of lie. Oh no!
40:06If you just look at it, right, nine carries, 100 yards, you look, oh my gosh, like, this was, we went all
40:12in with the fab money and it worked out, but I would be a little bit cautious because that's largely skewed with the long 53-yard run.
40:19He is getting 56% of the carries, so it's, you know, not great.
40:23You have Jalen, Malik's getting a lot of carries as well.
40:26This is one where I would probably not overreact.
40:29Well, here's the positives though. I mean, I think we have the answer to the question was, there were two questions since Devon Achan went down.
40:36Is it going to be Ollie Gordon or Jalen Wright?
40:39Yeah. And will either of them be usable? And I think we finally, we got the answers to both those questions which
40:45are, it's going to be Ollie Gordon and the answer is yes, he can be usable.
40:50You know, early on, early on by the way, Jalen Wright actually had more snaps than Ollie Gordon.
40:55Right. But then Ollie Gordon rips off that like 52-yarder or something like that and then, you know, he played 88% of the snaps in the second half.
41:03He gave them something. He saw both running back red zone touches, actually got a 12% target share on this one.
41:09Again, it's a low volume offense, Jalen Wright's not going away and a lot of his production was skewed by the one
41:15big run but he had the one big run and so the fact that, you know, and once he got that, they
41:21started feeding him, they went, he got a significantly more work than Jalen Wright in the second half.
41:26So, you know, listen, the fact is is that I think he's now on the flex radar, low end flex.
41:32Low end flex, you know, I don't know that Miami's always going to be in game script to get him 15 touches
41:38in a game but, like, they found something in Ollie Gordon.
41:41It was a good game against a tough defense.
41:44Seems a little sad up here. Weekend Warriors, check.
41:46Next, guys. Not as sad as these two eggs.
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42:59She loves apple orchids for some reason and what she'll do is she likes those warm caramel coated apples, right?
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43:52You know what's worse than being somebody that's mad at you?
43:56Being disappointed, Matthew, and that's what the Sunday scaries are all about.
43:59You look so disappointed. I look so sad. See, there's some names that have had some good, it was a good week last week.
44:06Look at how depressed I am. But I'm better dressed than I normally am.
44:10That's true. Yeah, but as you see there, Parker Washington, Travis Kelsey, Josh Downs, Garrett Wilson, and Jeremiah Love, all of them under seven fantasy points, Beatle.
44:17so much pain. Yeah, we're going to start with Jeremiah Love.
44:20Yeah, let's do, because that was a good one.
44:23This one makes no sense whatsoever. Jeremiah Love after the game trying to be protective of his head coach, saying, they're trying
44:29to manage my reps, whatever, but you drafted this guy number three overall.
44:33We thought after week three, finally we had the Jeremiah Love breakout game.
44:37He's finally going to get the full-time role, and yet even in a game where they were in close, they had a
44:43chance to win this game or get closer, Jeremiah Love's on the bench, played under 50% of the snaps.
44:48He played five fewer snaps than Tyler Algier. He played only 11 snaps in the second half.
44:53His ankle was getting worked on, but after the game, he said it wasn't, the reason he was on the bench wasn't injury-related.
45:00LaFleur said the team used Algier more than two-minute offense for pass protection reasons.
45:03Weird. Do you buy this at all, Mo? I mean, Is he lying?
45:07I mean, his comments were probably the last thing you want to hear as a fantasy owner after the game.
45:13He said, this is going to be the longest year of my career.
45:17Yeah. I'm like, oh, I dropped it in the head of Kenneth Walker.
45:20Ooh. I mean, this is tough. I mean. What?
45:23Yeah, I did. I did. I don't know much, but I know that's dumb.
45:27Okay, well, hindsight a little bit. But that's silly.
45:29Is it? It's really silly. It's not that silly.
45:32No, you know what? Discord, light them up. I'm just not going to ask.
45:36The Discord's already lighting them up. By the way, the Discord's already lighting you up, Mo, about this.
45:41They're saying your pile is very messy here. Your paper pile is very messy.
45:45And then, sorry for being prepared, guys. Is that what that is?
45:48No, and I think it was, I'm trying to see who, I'm trying to see who I messed it.
45:54They're all just going off. Oh, that's art, right?
45:56Yeah, Max Wilco says Mo's paper stack is so messy.
45:59And then, Shoeless Joe 1919 says, Mo has a clean clothes pile and a dirty clothes pile.
46:04No closets. Oh, you 100%. You know what? We're going to get to know Mo over the course of this show.
46:10I'm moving it to a new apartment. Well, then we're going to find out.
46:14With a golf simulator, too. Don't tell everybody. Good Lord.
46:17Wow, that was cool, all right? Sorry, I didn't mean to take away from Jeremiah Love.
46:21By the way, good headshot. See, I've been noticing all of them.
46:24Shut up. That's a good one. but the thing on Jeremiah Love and just, it's like, again, we expected like a big
46:31workload given his draft capital, Mo's, college guy, star out of college.
46:34So, mistake, but I get it. To me, what I would just say is that they got so much criticism for him,
46:40I think this gets reversed next week. They're home to Detroit next week, then they're at the Rams, home to Denver, at Dallas.
46:47So, there's a couple of defenses there. Detroit and Dallas, you really like.
46:51Rams and Broncos, a little bit tougher. They're going to need to use him in the passing game, and I get it.
46:57Algier, in theory, is the better pass pro guy, but this is not somebody that, I mean, this was a complete running back coming out of college.
47:04It is. We're not benching him? No, absolutely not.
47:07I think he's, after last week, I was just like, he's back to an RB1, and now I'm like, eh, he's probably
47:13still the RB2 we thought he was, because there's still playing time concerns with Algier, but, I do think better days are ahead.
47:20I think. The bad day at the office. Mike LaFleur, I think, was covering for his coaches.
47:24This will get corrected. 27 yards is what Garrett Wilson had, so I'd like to know what your concern would be about this one.
47:31Well, it's primarily because of their defense. They can't stop the run, and so, the time of possession margin was absurd.
47:37They had 17 minutes on offense. I believe the Bears had 45 plus, and so, when Gino's only completing eight footballs, yeah,
47:43if three of them go to Garrett, that's good, but we're just, there's no volume in the passing game, so, this isn't something where I'd freak out.
47:51It's not something where Garrett's not winning, getting separation.
47:54It's just, they're not getting enough time of possession and opportunities to throw to Garrett Wilson.
47:58That's kind of the way I look at it.
48:01I'm still optimistic with him long term. I see him as a buy low candidate.
48:05Yeah, listen, I think he's super talented. Wilson, despite the low numbers, still had a 27% target share.
48:10Yeah, to your point, Gino completed eight passes. Eight passes.
48:13Like, that's it. Better days are ahead for the Jets offense and Garrett Wilson.
48:17Just one of those days. Again, wide receiver two, not wide receiver one, but still, he'll be fine.
48:22You'll learn I'm very superstitious, and I feel like with this next guy, we spoke so highly that it made me worried, and with good reason, Parker Washington.
48:30That was your fault. Well, no. Yeah, first game, first game this season, like, again, you want to talk about somebody, if
48:36somebody's freaking out about Parker Washington, go get him.
48:39Parker Washington is just an absolute baller. It's his first game this season with a target share under 18%.
48:44The fact of the matter is, is like, the middle of the field was wide open.
48:49It was a big Brenton Strange game, and so I think that's normally where you see a lot of Parker Washington, but
48:55like, Cincinnati's so bad against tight ends, and so Brenton Strange was able to go off.
48:59Lawrence only completed 23 passes. Like, they just didn't have, it was a weird game.
49:04Bashal Tootin had two touchdowns called back due to penalty.
49:06Like, it was just, I watched all this game, and it was just a, it was a weird one as well.
49:12I'm not worried about it. Brian Thomas scored the touchdown.
49:15It just, Parker Washington would be just fine. It just wasn't a big volume game for Trevor Lawrence.
49:20Normally, the traveler would be fine. Yeah, it's a guy with the fifth highest target share going into this game, and so that is not a mirage.
49:28I think that's going to come back. I'm not worried at all.
49:3152% of his targets in this game went to tight ends or running backs, Trevor Lawrence.
49:36So again, just a weird game script. The traveler.
49:38The traveler. See, you're learning. No, I don't want to learn.
49:42You're getting there. This is not what I want to waste my leftover brain space on.
49:46That's right. Again, another guy spoken of very, What do you think about the Beebler as a nickname?
49:51My dad's watching. All right. Josh. That's an opinion.
49:54Hi, Bob. Shout out Bob Bevo. Shout out Bob Bevo.
49:57Well, I didn't know my last name. Okay, Mo, 16 yards against the commanders.
50:01Do you still trust in downs? Fantasy football is a cruel, It really is.
50:04A cruel world because there are real life human beings on this planet Earth who had both Parker Washington and Josh Downs on their fantasy football.
50:12Yes, sir. And it is inexplicable because, I mean, the matchup was great.
50:16Yeah. His ass rating is great. He's the ass god.
50:18He got so much separation, right? Yes. Average separation score.
50:21Yep. Alec Pierce is out. All the signs were there and it's just, you just flop.
50:26And sometimes it happens, right? Maybe he had a bad meal.
50:29He just had a bad day. Yeah, I think he had too many sloppy joes or something.
50:34I don't know what's going on. No, he's in May Fish and Chips he might have.
50:38Yeah. I mean, listen, Josh Downs still had a 95% target share.
50:42Another weird sort of game. The commanders defense actually played pretty well and then it all fell apart.
50:47But yeah, it's a nutty one when Ashton Doolin and Laquan Treadwell both get more targets.
50:51Daniel Jones did not play well in this game.
50:54Also fair. Jonathan Taylor had a big game, obviously.
50:56They ran, did whatever they want. I don't think, I don't know that my commanders deserve to win this game.
51:02The refs definitely did not help them out though.
51:04There was, there was some, oh, that offensive interference call on Stefan Diggs, that was a BS call.
51:10Like, you know, the Antonio Williams call, you know, huge touchdown for Antonio Williams called back for like an illegal shift which was like, yeah, I don't know.
51:18It just, those two calls there was a holding on that play too.
51:21Yeah, two penalties. it's ticky tack. It's all ticky tack.
51:24There's a hold also. Again, I'm just saying, I don't know that my commanders deserve to win.
51:29I'm as big of a fan of the box of Obama as anyone, but they did not deserve to win that game.
51:35I agree. I just said that. I'm not arguing that they have, they were not the better team.
51:40My commanders are brutal, but the refs definitely didn't help them out.
51:44Still, Josh Downs again, 95% route participation. I'm going to bet on him more often than not.
51:48He'll be fine. Bad day at the office. Good headshot.
51:51You know what? At the end of the season, I'm going to rank the headshots.
51:55Top of 20. There you go. And all three is ranked.
51:59Exactly. Okay, so we know that the Chiefs lost Rice, but that was an early one.
52:03And then Travis Kelsey only had 15 yards. You would have thought that would change.
52:07How worried are you about that? I'm not. Over the last two weeks, I get it.
52:12It's just 12% target share, one game with more than five targets so far this season.
52:16You know, he actually, I feel like he's actually been, you know, this is what he is.
52:21He hasn't been massively involved in the offense. He's just had a couple of big plays.
52:26Splashing plays. Which is what Travis Kelsey does, right?
52:28They find him in a seam and then a lot of yards after the catch.
52:33But especially, by the way, with Tyquan Thornton, looks like he's probably going to be at a significant time.
52:38That was a tough one. And if Rasheed Rice is, if this hamstring injury is going to put him out for a
52:44decent period of time, I think Kelsey will get back to it.
52:48Look, Kelsey is a low-end, touchdown-dependent, tight end one, which is what he was drafted as.
52:52No doubt. Like, you know, if you were ranking the tight ends for the rest of the season, he's probably inside the top 12, but barely.
52:59So, like, we like this offense and I think more opportunities are coming Kelsey's way.
53:04The two pass catchers with the most chemistry with Mahomes, Rasheed Rice, is out now, which leaves us to Travis Kelsey.
53:10We know that this Bay enemy offense with Reed, it's all about kind of sitting in windows and being on the same page.
53:16They play so well off script where he's just kind of like playing backyard football in a sense.
53:21I think that chemistry is still there. Obviously, he's not in his prime, but we saw what he did week one, early in the season.
53:28So, I think that's still there and with Rasheed out, they're going to have to rely on Travis.
53:33Chief's on a bye this week as well, so maybe they get a little bit more time to sort of get a
53:40little bit more in sync as well. Again, bring in Tyreek.
53:43Like, vintage Chiefs. God, you really think that's going to happen?
53:46Like, if you had to pick a side yes or no.
53:49I think they will. On what? On Tyreek. Do you think that he's going Kansas City?
53:54I had to pick a side yes. Would you pick him up right now and stash him?
53:58Yeah, why not? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. If he's fully healthy, like, they say he's available.
54:03Today they sign him. Would you consider a flex play there?
54:06Well, we will get into our waiver wire, our early look-ad waiver wire on the next segment, but yes.
54:11Will we now? Yeah, but to your point, because he's not on an NFL team, Tyreek Hill is somebody that you could
54:17grab right now before you go through waivers. So, so, so, yes, if you have somebody that hasn't played, like in tonight's
54:24game or whatever, if you have somebody that you can drop or you play on Yahoo where they let you drop players,
54:30you know, from your bench, might be interesting. He's definitely an interesting stash.
54:33There's no question. Tyreek Hill. I'm with it. I'm picking him up.
54:37Stash him. You don't know that you can. Sunday Scaries, done.
54:40When we come back, last call. Let's see. We are back before we get into our bets for tonight.
54:45We got an early look. Week five, waiver wire, Matthew.
54:48Yeah, for sure. So, Emmanuel Wilson, let's be honest, should have been picked up last week in most competitive leagues, but if
54:54he's still out there in yours, he would be my number one add, right?
54:58Again, we don't know yet the severity of Saquon Barkley's injury.
55:01Tank Bigsby also left the game, but both Bigsby and Will Shipley need to be added until we get more clarity on the situation.
55:08Again, Eagles on a bye this week. How about Keon Coleman and Trey Harris?
55:12They're the two wide receivers who should see a big uptick in usage of DJ Moore and Ladd McConkie miss any time
55:18and sticking with the Chargers, how about Keaton Mitchell?
55:21Saw season high 15 touches in week four. Continue to see his role grow as Hampton, Omarion Hampton's role grows down even though Hampton scored the touchdown late.
55:29Mitchell needs to be rostered in way more leagues.
55:32Okay, that's your early look. We do have a game tonight, Mo.
55:35What do you have put a dollar or something?
55:37Well, I'll tell you what, I'm one for one so far.
55:41Are you keeping track? You should. Yeah, no, 100% by the way.
55:44What was your other one? Roman Wilson touchdown. Oh God, you're right.
55:47On Thursday night, Roman Wilson cashed as did my Deshaun Watson over on the rushing attempt.
55:52Mine did not cash, DK Metcalf, almost. Yes, almost.
55:54So we went two for three on the Thursday night game.
55:58Let's see what we can do on the Monday night football game.
56:01Mo, what is your best bet for tonight? Draco London, the investigator, is it?
56:05Detective Draco London. Detective Draco London. That was brutal.
56:07Wow, it's the same. He went with investigator. I mean, it's the same.
56:11That's so dumb. People are saying Drake London has a functioning penix, which I would not go that far.
56:17Yeah. But he does. Beetle's face is... You get it?
56:19Just people are saying I would not. I can explain it to you.
56:23I would not go that far. But... It's all about me.
56:26Poor Beetle. Again, get into her DMs, guys. That's all we're asking.
56:30Actually, I have a pet peeve. What's that? Go ahead, do your bet.
56:33What is it? No, because he did this last week and now there are people in the DMs and I'm antisocial.
56:39Let's just keep that. What are the DMs? Nothing gross, weirdo.
56:42I'm just asking. No cartoons, if that's what you're asking.
56:45The boys, they love the Beetle. That's what it is.
56:48Yeah, anytime touchdown. Was it last 10 games with Michael Penix?
56:5110.4 targets, 6.9 receptions and over 100 yards. Give me the touchdown.
56:54Okay. Okay. Anytime touchdown for Drake London is your best bet.
56:58I'm also going with an anytime touchdown, but give me Juwan Johnson.
57:01Oh, I'm next. Oh, you are? I was just following the screen.
57:04I just saw mine. All right. Well, no, because I think you were supposed to, but then I saw my screen.
57:10Also, you should go last. It's your show. All right, I will go second.
57:14Go ahead. I screwed that up. So here's a little secret.
57:17When I pick the over for a game, that's really me just putting it in the atmosphere, like wishful thinking.
57:23Like, I'd like this to be like a shootout and lots and lots of points.
57:27I believe it's 47 and a half is the over for this one.
57:31So I'm taking, yeah, yeah, I'm going to take that because why not?
57:35Entertain us. don't bet on the under. No, that's boring.
57:38Life's too short to bet on the under. And then, okay, finally, now it's my turn.
57:42Sorry, I went out of order, but yes, as I said, Jawan Johnson, who everyone knows, is a legend, is a legend
57:48in the league of, anyway, I'm not allowed to say it on Roku, but anyway, you guys know the league I'm talking about.
57:55Anyway, Jawan Johnson, give me a Jawan Johnson anytime touchdown here through three games.
57:59The Falcons have allowed three touchdowns to opposing tight ends.
58:02By the way, Jawan Johnson, a 40% end zone target share for the Saints, you know, so they look for him quite a bit in the end zone.
58:09Falcons give up a lot of touchdowns to opposing tight ends, so ergo, ipso facto, therefore, Jawan Johnson anytime touchdown is my best bet for tonight.
58:17They've been shucking around, so. Yeah. I feel good about this.
58:20Yeah, shuck it around, find out. All right. Listen, you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
58:26That does it for happy hour. We are back tomorrow.
58:28Mo Hassan, Michelle Beadle, myself, Matthew Berry. Good luck.
58:31May your Monday night miracles come through.