0:00Somewhere so the Happy Hour bar is open. Mo Hassan, Michelle Beadle, I am Matthew Berry, a friendly neighborhood bartender ready to
0:06break it all down for you in the world of fantasy football.
0:09Beadle, take it away. I am going to take it away, but before we get to where we're going, we did have
0:16a little bit of news that broke this morning concerning Green Bay.
0:19They are placing Jaden Reed on IR. So as far as their offense goes, what does that mean?
0:24Yeah, I mean, like, so Reed missed last week's game.
0:27So I think what this does is what we already expect, right?
0:30It makes a narrow passing attack even more narrow, right?
0:33Christian Watson, with Jaden Reed out, Christian Watson, 26% target share.
0:36Matthew Golden, 23% target share. Tucker Craft, 14%. It's really those three guys.
0:39So we already thought this was going to be a pretty good passing attack with, you know, with Wicks in Philadelphia and Romeo Dobbs in New England.
0:47And then now Jaden Reed goes down. So it's really those three guys for a team that candidly can't run the ball and can't stop anyone.
0:54Their defense has been terrible. So they're letting Jordan Love cook.
0:57And even though it was a bad game last Thursday against the Falcons from an NFL standpoint, fantasy-wise, you were happy with Love.
1:03You were happy with either of the receivers. Tough game for Tucker Craft.
1:07I do think he's working his way into it.
1:10We'll talk about him coming up a little bit later in the show.
1:13But while you never want to celebrate injury, and we hope Jaden Reed gets back, we now know the Packers are going
1:19to be without him for four weeks at least.
1:22And that's good for the fantasy value of the three guys I just mentioned, plus Jordan Love.
1:26I mean, I love those guys on their own.
1:29Tucker Craft, Christian Watson, all great players. But when you have the lowest pass protection rate in the NFL, I mean, we saw what they did against Atlanta.
1:37And that's not a world-beating defense. And he had barely any time even to go through his reads.
1:42So I just think when the offense is so stagnant, can he even get the ball off?
1:46That's my question. Yeah, well, listen. Again, junk time still counts.
1:49I just think they're going to be one of the more pass-heavy teams in the NFL because they can't run the ball
1:56and because their defense is so bad. And that's going to be good for fantasy.
2:00Beads. I know. I just hate neck injury of all the—it's probably my least favorite thing.
2:04I didn't know where you were going with that.
2:07When you said, like, I hate and you did this, it's like— Scared me the most.
2:11There's a lot of errors, a lot of ways you could go.
2:14Where could that go? I'm just saying. There's a lot of stuff.
2:18A lot of—I've known you for a long time.
2:20Do I not get some news? I've known you for a long time, and I just know a lot of the things
2:26you hate, Beatles, some of which you've shared publicly.
2:29I hate a lot of stuff. Yeah, it's fair.
2:31Some of which you've shared privately with me. I'm just going to say this.
2:35All right. I'm just saying. Okay, fair enough. Wednesday, I'm going to get everyone—this is going to be for anybody who's new to you.
2:42Wednesday is keep it open or close it out.
2:44Get it? Bar lingo? Yes, that's right. We're in a bar.
2:47We're in a lounge. And, right, so like you do with a tab.
2:51So sit and start. Are you keeping it open or are you closing it out?
2:55Okay, so we are starting with Kyler Murray. So, yeah, some guys that, yeah, that we're not sure about that are questionable
3:01in terms of whether you're starting them or not.
3:04Do we have an answer on what we're going to do with Kyler Murray?
3:08I know the return wasn't maybe stellar necessarily, but what is it?
3:11Close it out or keep it open? Yeah. It's been a long time since I've said that.
3:16I think less than stellar is even an understatement.
3:18The Week 3 performance, KOC has coached 73 games as a head coach of the Minnesota Vikings.
3:23Nobody has had a worse single game passing success rate than Kyler Murray in Week 3.
3:27But I still have a ton of optimism because I believe he has the most talent and presents the most opportunities for
3:33a guy like KOC, especially using his legs and the way that opens up the entire offense.
3:38Whether Justin Jefferson plays or not, I'm also very big on Jordan Addison.
3:42I think he's one of the best route runners in the league.
3:45I'm excited to see him develop as a number one option if he's called to do so.
3:50And how about the matchup? I mean, you're going against the Miami Dolphins.
3:53It seems like anybody throwing against that secondary is going to have success.
3:57So I would preach patience with Kyler Murray. I'm optimistic.
4:00I'm keeping it open. Thanks for figuring out what the segment was.
4:03The whole problem is the segment, right? We did a whole, are you keeping it open or closing it out?
4:09Yeah. Right. Wait, why are you looking at me?
4:11I said we're going to keep it open. Keep it open.
4:14We're keeping it open. We're keeping it open on Kyler Murray.
4:17I agree with you, young Padawan. Look, the fact of the matter is, he's my number 11 quarterback this week.
4:23He's playing Miami as well. Hopefully we get Justin Jefferson back.
4:26But there were enough positive signs. It wasn't a great game, but he didn't need to be against them.
4:31The only concern with Kyler Murray, of course, is, you know, again, in a game in which the Dolphins have lost Devon
4:37Achan and how good that Vikings defense is, is there just not enough for Kyler to go, to do.
4:42Honestly, that they don't need him to do much.
4:45But given that the fact the run game is still banged up here, I think they're going to want, this is Kyler's
4:51second really full game of being a starter for the Vikings.
4:54He only played a couple of plays in week number one.
4:57So my expectation here is that KOC kind of lets him cook a little bit and try to just get him more into a rhythm as well.
5:05So I agree with you, Jordan Addison. I kind of like TJ Hawkinson as well.
5:09I was encouraged by how much Kyler Murray used Aaron Jones in the passing game last week as well.
5:14So we're keeping it open on Kyler Murray. Again, he's my QB11 for the week.
5:18So QB11 sticks out to me because I'm about to ask you about this next guy.
5:23Justin Herbert. No jokes. Like, all jokes aside, but that says QB21, Matthew.
5:26So what are we doing with him? We're closing it out, obviously.
5:30Like, we're not starting a top 20 guy. Like, it's just, it's been tough, right?
5:34I mean, like, there's nothing that makes you feel good about this matchup, right?
5:38He's on the road at Seattle, right? And I get it.
5:41I get it. Marcus Moriota just threw all over.
5:43And, you know, the commanders scored 33 points, pick six.
5:46They had a very, they had short, they had a short field a lot.
5:50The defense really stepped up here. I don't know if the Chargers are going to do this.
5:54Now, this is do or die time for the Chargers, but, you know, they generated five turnovers last week against the Bills,
6:01and they couldn't get anything done there as well.
6:03I just, I just can't imagine that, you know, if you are 2-1, if you're 3-0 in your fantasy league, you've done
6:09it despite Justin Herbert, not because of it. And chances are that if you've been rolling Justin Herbert out there as your
6:15quarterback, you know, and this is a guy that went like QB7, QB8, generally speaking, my guess is you are, you're 0-3, you're 1-2.
6:22And so you just can't, you can't risk this.
6:24Like, he's not really running as much. Just 17 rushing yards last week against the Bills, which is one of the points
6:30about Justin Herbert was he would get you points with his legs.
6:34And yeah, I just, you know what I mean?
6:36Like, there's not, they're not running the ball effectively.
6:39It just, it, the Hawkins is- Well, they're not doing anything effectively.
6:42They're not doing anything. And now they're on the road at Seattle, an angry Seahawks team that just lost.
6:47That's a great point. Yeah. It would be really hard to create a fictional worse situation than this because- What do they do worst?
6:54It's playing against pressure. It's their interior offensive line.
6:57You have a new center. Those two guards aren't playing well.
7:00The tackles are great. But if you can't do anything in the middle, you don't have a run game.
7:05You're playing against the Seahawks. You mentioned it. Fourth in pressure rate.
7:08So that's top five. I mean, McDonald's probably the greatest defensive mind in the entire NFL.
7:13Now they're allowing a league low in five yards per pass attempt and 7.7 yards per completion.
7:17For an offense that just isn't clicking with Mike McDaniel, this is not the game and not the week to get things back on track.
7:24Sounds stressful. This has got to be very- It's got to be really awkward in the building.
7:29Are they going to go 0-1-4? Yes. I mean, how crazy is that?
7:33They put a dollar on it. And then what do you do?
7:36And then like- Yeah. Now this is a subject of the first hour for pregame, but the truth is, is like McDaniel has to go first.
7:43Like they're not going to get rid of Harbaugh.
7:46Like a coordinator gets thrown under the bus first and then- Didn't they activate Herbert's brother last week?
7:51And I thought that was like going to be like a feel good, maybe this will jumpstart something.
7:56Get the locker room going? Yeah. No, and it's a- Does he have any other brothers?
8:00It's a- Look, and the schedule does not get easier.
8:03After Seattle, then they're home to the Broncos. They're at Kansas City.
8:06They got a bye week. But then they're playing the Rams at the Rams.
8:10I mean, it's the same stadium. But like, I mean, you know- What is it?
8:14Like it's- They're two very different existences, aren't they?
8:17Miles Garrett may be back that week too. So it's like, I mean, it does not get better.
8:22Does not get better. It's a- Yeah. All right.
8:24Go, Chargers, go. But yeah, we're closing it out on Justin Herbert.
8:27All right, that one's closed out. We're going to move on to some running backs.
8:32Saquon, Mr. Saquon Barkley. It's been a little underwhelming, I guess, to say the least.
8:36Start with you, Mo. Keeping it open. Yeah. Closing it out.
8:39I mean, I'm going to keep it open because of the elite talent he is.
8:43But I am disappointed, right? Like he had that huge season two years ago.
8:47And my expectation was that he was going to bounce back.
8:50You have a new coordinator, Sean Mannion. They love that outside zone stuff.
8:54And I just thought he fit this system so well to AT.
8:57Now he did get banged up a little earlier.
8:59I'm kind of curious as to if some of those things are lingering.
9:03He has the cowboy collar, which is kind of interesting, looking like Eric Dickerson.
9:07I can't remember a running back who's done that since then.
9:10And he's just not scoring, right? So he's not getting a lot of touches.
9:14Oh, no. He is getting touches in the red zone, but he's just not getting into the end zone.
9:19So I'm going to be cautiously optimistic on this one.
9:22I am, too. Like, I have him lower than I normally would.
9:25I've been running back 16. But I, too, am keeping it open.
9:28Mo, I agree with you. You know, against the Rams.
9:31The fact is, is that, like, their offensive line is healthy.
9:34Like, it was a tough game. But, like, after that Chicago loss, they're going to go back to, okay, what can we do well?
9:41Keep in mind, the Rams, I know the Rams are very good.
9:44And they're also upset after a tough loss for them against Denver.
9:48But West Coast team traveling east for a 1 o'clock game.
9:51I always tend to like East Coast games and that.
9:53I think we've talked about this on the first hour of the show.
9:57Like, the Eagles are one of those teams that every time you think, like, well, the sky is falling.
10:02They're done. This is over. Like, everything's terrible for them.
10:05Then all of a sudden you're like, oh, here they go.
10:08They win. And so, listen, one of my favorite bets so far, we did this the other day.
10:13Give me the Eagles getting three. You know, like, I don't know how the Eagles, the Eagles are 2-1.
10:18They're a winning team, playing a team with a losing record.
10:21And yet they're at home as well. But so far, the two full games he's playing, he's averaging over five yards per carry.
10:28He's seeing 80% of the team's goal line rushes.
10:30Yes, there'll always be a tush-push here or there.
10:33But, you know, still no Miles Garrett here. So, I like Barkley.
10:36Don't love him as a running back two this week, not a running back one.
10:40But we're keeping it open on Saquon Barkley. There's still always the chance that he takes one to the house.
10:46You've got to think mean reversion, too. If you're so efficient, what is it, 15 for 82, and you're getting 80% of
10:52those red zone touches, at some point we've got to get in.
10:55Yep. I'm starting to learn the pattern here. So, I'm going to move on to Jadarian Price.
11:00What have you learned, Beatle? Well, I'm not going to give away my secrets.
11:04By the way, that would be awesome. That would be an awesome segment.
11:07Just what did Beatle learn? Actually, it would be.
11:10You're those observations. Well, it's like things that are happening on my computer right now.
11:14For those that are listening on the podcast that didn't watch the Roku show and watch the first hour, Beetle learned about beavers in the first hour.
11:21No, no, no, no. Michelle knew about beavers. She's probably known about them longer than y'all have.
11:26Good receiver. That may be true. It might be true.
11:29It's true. When we talked about beaver names, yeah, naming a beaver.
11:32Anyway, we talked about good beavers, good beavers that receive.
11:35Yeah, there's a lot going on. Chad Johnson went there.
11:38Jesse LeGreeze playing well. Also, yeah, all good beavers that receive.
11:41Holy cow, there's so much I could have. I'm so proud of myself right now.
11:45I'm maturing. Holy cow. That was a big moment for us.
11:48Good job. Okay, take me through this one. Jadarian Price.
11:51Open or close? I'm keeping it closed. I'm closing it out.
11:54Close it out. On Jadarian Price. So far this season, like, the idea that this guy had a first-round draft capital and
12:00was going to be used quite a bit, he was going to sort of be the guy, that was kind of the
12:06pro-Jadarian Price argument in the preseason was, hey, he's got an opportunity to, puns aside, take this job and run with it.
12:12They used first-round draft capital. Zach Charbonnet isn't there.
12:15Not really worried about George Helani or Emmanuel Wilson.
12:17Well, maybe we should have been. His snap rate, this Jadarian Price, his snap rate and percentage of team rush attempts has declined every single week.
12:24He's lost a fumble in each of the last two weeks.
12:27He fumbled against the commanders, and we basically didn't see him again.
12:31He's averaging basically 10 touches a game. He's playing less than 40% of the snaps.
12:35And so far this season, here's the red zone touches on the Seattle Seahawks, right?
12:39Emmanuel Wilson has nine. George Helani has seven. Jadarian Price has three.
12:42Three red zone touches through three games for Jadarian Price.
12:45He's played literally 21% of the Seahawks' red zone snaps here.
12:48So, look, you see it there on your screen.
12:51He's my running back 30. I'm closing it out on Jadarian Price.
12:54That's sad. And it is because I like the player.
12:57It is. Because he's the most talented guy in that backfield.
13:00That's the most frustrating. I mean, it pops off on the TV.
13:03You just see him, and he's just so explosive and quick.
13:06The biggest thing right now, it's a young guy, and he's just fumbling the football.
13:10So there's no trust. And if I can't trust you to hold on to the football, you're just not going to get playing time.
13:17And then you mentioned it, too. I mean, if you're rotating guys and we have Charbonnet coming back, he's a veteran.
13:23He can take care of the football, and he's great in between the tackles.
13:27It's just I do hope he can take care of it and not cough it up, and they kind of start to trust him again.
13:34But up until then, we've got to close it.
13:36Once you close it, can you open it back up?
13:39Sure. Have you ever done that? Have you ever been at a bar?
13:43Have you ever been at a bar, Beatle, where they're like, Ms.
13:46Beatle, would you like to keep this open? Ms.
13:48Beatle, would you like to keep this tab open and close it out?
13:52And then you're like, no, no, close it out.
13:54And then you go, and then you run into somebody that you keep talking.
13:58That's not what happens. Yeah, well, what happens? And then you say, ah, no, open it back up.
14:03It's not that I run into someone. It's just, oh, you know what?
14:07We're still having a conversation. I guess we'll open it back up.
14:10Or you really think you're going to leave. I mean, it's been a while.
14:14Right. I don't go to bars anymore. I know.
14:17Since two days ago. No. That was a restaurant.
14:19Yeah, but we- But restaurant bar. Yeah. It was a restaurant bar.
14:22But this is a true story. We had a team dinner.
14:26We had a team dinner, and Michelle was upset.
14:28Or not upset. She was worried that her other teams would be upset because Beatle never goes out.
14:33That's true. She's a homebody. Luckily, they're not watching.
14:35No. Yeah, exactly. Sorry, Chandler, if you're watching. Shout out, Chandler.
14:39Exactly. But Beatle felt like she was cheating on her other TV family.
14:42I kind of was cheating. Yeah, a little bit.
14:45If you think about it that way. It's all right.
14:47It's all good. Anyway, yes. But Beatle's a homebody, unfortunately.
14:50So we can aim no- Okay, so it's not over yet.
14:53Jacory, Krusky. For you or for the segment? Well, for everyone, really.
14:57There's still hope. I love- Okay, I love this.
14:59I'm going to go to you first, Mo. Yeah.
15:02Speaking of hope, I have no hope here. Speaking of.
15:04So I have to close it. I usually try to find a little bit of positive, but this one's tough, right?
15:10And it's a running game with the commanders that they're just not very efficient.
15:14And then, so the next thing you look at, okay, can you affect the game in the passing sense?
15:19And you're just not doing that either. Not getting a lot of targets.
15:23You're just not being used on third down as much.
15:26I mean, if you look at the numbers, he's three yards per carry through three weeks.
15:30It's .7 per rush before contact. Just they're not establishing that part of the game right now.
15:35You have a new quarterback. Marcus is playing great, but they're just not running the ball well, especially when you're rotating guys.
15:41So I got to close this. And that's the key, right?
15:44They're rotating guys. I mean, the fact of the matter is, so you guys probably saw, but proud Fantasy Life investor and
15:50friend of the show, multiple-time friend of the show, Austin Eckler, signed with the commanders.
15:54Friend of fantasy everywhere, Austin Eckler. But regardless of whether Austin himself has any fantasy value, the fact of the matter that
16:00they felt the need to sign Austin, despite the fact they don't actually have any injuries in that running room, tells you
16:06they feel like there's something lacking there. And whether it's between Ja'Cory Krosky-Meritt, whether it's Rashad White, Katron Allen, the rookie, they felt like they needed something there.
16:14Eckler's literally on the plane to London right now.
16:17It is the London game this weekend between the Colts.
16:19Now, it's a positive matchup. Colts give up almost five yards per carry to opposing running backs.
16:24But to your point, Mo, it's a committee. They're not using him in the passing game.
16:29Bill has a 3% target share. So you're really just hoping can he fall into the end zone?
16:34I don't feel great about the choices. Because candidly to my eye, just purely from an eye test, you know, Rashad White
16:40looks like the better running back so far this year.
16:42Meritt's, Krosky-Meritt's had a couple of nice runs and a couple of nice moments.
16:46But consistently, Rashad White actually has looked better overall.
16:49He's my running back 32 on the week. I'm closing it out on Bill Krosky-Meritt.
16:53Negative. We'll be back with more. Keep it open or close it out after the break.
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19:00Am I start with you with Jalen Waddell? Yeah, listen, I get it.
19:04It has been a slow start, an inconsistent start to the season for Jalen Waddell.
19:08He's been good. He's been bad. He's been bad.
19:10He's been good. But over the past two games, like first week was truly brutal.
19:15But I'm keeping it open. Like you see it right there on your screen.
19:18I'm at wide receiver 29. So, you know, barely.
19:21But the positives here, 28% target share over the last two weeks.
19:24He's been targeted on 34% of his route. So when he's out there, they're looking for him as well.
19:30He's actually seen 40% of the Broncos air yards so far this season.
19:33Pretty good game environment, by the way, over-unders 48.
19:36So expect a lot of explosive plays in this one.
19:38I think they're going to have to throw to keep up with San Francisco and Brock Purdy.
19:43So, yeah, I'm keeping it open to Jalen Waddell.
19:46They're still finding their way in Denver with this offense.
19:48But I believe in the talent and ultimately believe in the system.
19:52I agree. We're going to keep it open because I think he's just the most explosive guy on this offense.
19:57I don't think you make that acquisition without having this in mind that we're going to feature him.
20:02And they are trying to feature him. It just hasn't quite clicked so far.
20:06The number one thing that does concern me, to your point, is the inconsistency.
20:10Both with him, he is a little bit banged up, so I don't know how he is on a health status.
20:16But also just the entire offense. I mean, sometimes it's a tail of two halves.
20:20They put up zero points and then second half they come out and they look unbelievable.
20:24Throwing the ball all over the field, down 60-0, they come back and win.
20:28So which version of the Denver Broncos are we going to get?
20:32And I also think when you have a new play caller, he has gotten better after each week.
20:37They're going to try to find ways to get Waddle the football.
20:40I do think that they're going to get it figured out soon.
20:43Yeah. Both on the open side. Yep. Keep it open.
20:46All right. No. You're up next for Carnell Tate.
20:49Talk to me about, over to close. Mr. Tate.
20:51Yeah. Mr. Tate. This is one where, in theory, again, he's the best wide receiver on this football team.
20:56Cam Ward has not played great at all. The emergence also of Wondale Robinson does also concern me.
21:01Because we've seen from weeks one, two, and three, he's getting an increased target share.
21:05For whatever reason, the connection just hasn't clicked. I've seen a few times where Carnell's dropping balls, where he's winning one-on-one coverage and he's just dropping it.
21:13Or other times, Cam missed him in the end zone, too.
21:16He climbs up in the pocket and just overshoots him.
21:19So sometimes there'll be a combination between accuracy and drops, and they're just not clicking over there with Dable.
21:24So the talent is there. So it's making me want to keep it open, but I'm actually kind of scared because of
21:30how bad of an offense it is. All right.
21:33So are you keeping it open or closing it out?
21:35I got to choose. You got to choose. Yes, that's the premise of the segment.
21:40He's new to TV, in fairness to him. He's new to TV.
21:43No, it's fair. You've got to take a stand.
21:45It's just hard. I'm closing. Okay. Oh, there it is.
21:48All right. That's fair enough. I totally get why you would.
21:51I'm going to keep it open. Don't feel great about it either.
21:54I mean, no, but listen, he's my wide receiver 36.
21:57So, like, again, it's all context, right? But if you're in a 12-team league where you start three wide receivers, like, in
22:03that scenario, again, he's my wide receiver 36. So I am reluctantly keeping it open, again, assuming he would be a startable
22:09wide receiver normally in your size league. But so far this year, 25% target share.
22:14I'm hoping, I'm banking on two things. Number one is talent, right?
22:17Again, we know the guy's talent is there. And big game from Wando Robinson last week, and there's been some bad drops with Carnell Tate.
22:24But ultimately, he's still their number one wide receiver.
22:26I think he's a talented player. Titans are almost 12-point underdogs in this one, right?
22:31So my expectation here is they're going to have to throw quite a bit to keep up with the Ravens as well.
22:37Baltimore, by the way, allowed the seven most fantasy points to wide receivers so far this season.
22:41They've given up the ninth most yard. So you can throw on this Ravens secondary, especially, I think, again, 11.5-point favorites here.
22:47I think they're going to have to throw. Hopefully Cam starts to get a little bit better.
22:52Feels like the offense, feels like in the second half of that Giants game, all of a sudden, the offense clicked a little bit.
22:59I know they didn't get the result they wanted, but he looked better in the second half than he has so far this year.
23:05So, again, you have to be in the right kind of league, but I am reluctantly keeping it open on Carnell Tate at wide receiver 36.
23:13You know what's crazy? What is crazy? None of these guys are on either one of my teams so far.
23:18There you go. But, no, I'm still lousy. Like, it's kind of crazy that we have all of this.
23:23Because you have Drake there. Just stop talking. Bears.
23:26Okay, so now we've got the Case Keenumera officially underway.
23:29We have something to look at. Does that mean Mr.
23:31Adunze is back in? I'm closing it out on Roma Adunze Beatle.
23:35I appreciate your optimism. I'm so excited. Yeah, Beatle for once finally got optimistic about something and then no.
23:40But, listen, this guy's been under eight fantasy points in all three games this season.
23:44He's got a 14% target share. Just whether it's the Kalief Raymond of it or just whether, you know, there's different reasons.
23:50Another quarterback. But just, you know, Case Keenum, his style of game doesn't really translate well to what Roma Adunze does.
23:56You know, and obviously Caleb got injured in week number two.
23:59But, like, so much of what he does is down the field.
24:03Over 50% of his targets have come on 15 or more air yards down the field as well.
24:08And so you think about Case Keenum, whose average depth of target was under six.
24:12Like, he was very dink and dunk and they tried to just get guys free.
24:16So Case Keenum's style of play favors Kalief Raymond, Luther Burden, which we saw play out on Monday night against the Eagles, less than Adunze.
24:23So even though it's a, you know, it's not a matchup that scares you against the Jets, although the Jets' defense is
24:29better than I think they get credit for. Just a perspective why.
24:32I'm closing it out. He's my wide receiver 44 this week.
24:35So when you say open close, just to be clear, is that for this week or for the entire season?
24:41This is for this week. Okay, so I'm with you.
24:44Oh, you can earn it back. Okay, I'm with you on closing this week, but I love him when Caleb comes back.
24:50Sure. Because I think this offense is going to completely transform.
24:53This is merely for this week. Exactly. Ben Johnson shifts it depending on his personnel.
24:57Case Keenum, better with the quick game, right? That's why his ADOT is so low right now.
25:02I agree with you. It's just there's too many weapons right now.
25:05I think even the tight ends I would take over Roma Dunzey.
25:08But when Caleb does come back, you're the number one wide receiver option on the perimeter with the highest scoring offense in
25:14the league in theory, which is what I'm projecting.
25:17So I like him long term. Yeah. I think the Bears offense is an opportunity to buy low in general, right?
25:23Especially because I do think, again, I do believe in Ben Johnson.
25:26I do believe in this offense. I do. When Caleb comes back, I think it'll be exciting and interesting.
25:31All right, we'll move on to the tight ends as you sort of talk to Bill.
25:36Isaiah Likely, 13 yards last week. Not good. Okay, fair enough.
25:39Open or close? Mo, you want to start that one?
25:41Yeah, I'm keeping it open. Okay. That was a rain game.
25:45The weather does not dictate. All right? I was just going to take away the passing game.
25:49That was Jameis Winston getting his bearings. I am really high on Isaiah Likely.
25:53We know that Harbaugh likes to utilize his tight ends.
25:56He brings him over from Baltimore for a reason.
25:58Him and Ricard are being featured because these are the guys that are setting the culture, and he understands the big talent that he is.
26:05I think he gets really a ton of targets in the open field, but more importantly for us, in the red zone
26:11as well, we saw how Jackson Dart utilized him with some of those corner routes in the back, off the zone read,
26:18and the meshes in the play action. So I am going to remain very optimistic with Isaiah Likely.
26:22Yeah, I agree with you. I'm keeping it open on him.
26:26He's my tight end seven this week as well.
26:28There's been, you know, you mentioned Jackson Dart, but even with Jameis Winston, he has struggled.
26:32But Winston continually looks for Isaiah Likely as well.
26:35So, so far this season, he's had at least a 23% target share in all three games so far this season.
26:41Isaiah Likely, the tight end five in terms of utilization score so far this year.
26:45Like, he's a big part of this Giants offense.
26:47You're not scared about the match with Arizona. In fact, you like it.
26:51Cardinals so far this year allowing 17.6 fantasy points per game to opposing tight ends.
26:55That is the sixth most in the NFL. And so a game in which we don't think Arizona is going to struggle
27:01to score points against the Giants, my expectation here is that they'll be throwing.
27:05Hopefully Jameis is a little bit better. JJ McCarthy in town.
27:08Maybe Jameis realizes he's got to, like, you know, focus.
27:11Like, you know, in the third quarter when he's just like, I got to lock in.
27:15He's been playing for the whole half. Thanks, Jameis.
27:18But, yeah, I'm with you. I just, I don't think you have a better option.
27:22It's my tight end seven. Absolutely keep it open on Isaiah Likely.
27:25Isaiah Likely. Tucker Craft, Matthew. I know you had positive things before the season started.
27:30I did. It's been tough. It's been a, you know, it has been a slow start to the season for the Tuckler, Tucker Craft.
27:36But what things are going positive here is that, you know, over the past two games, 77% route preservation continue to get healthier.
27:43Again, we talked about this at the top of the show.
27:46Jaden Reed is out. So, again, even more of a narrow target tree in Green Bay.
27:50They're on the road at the Buccaneers who have allowed touchdowns to, two touchdowns to tight ends in their past three games.
27:56They're bottom 12 in terms of most fantasy points allowed, most yards to opposing tight ends.
28:01So it's a good matchup here. I think the Tuckler gets off the schneid.
28:04He's a top 12 fantasy tight end for me.
28:07Tight end 12. Yeah. But he makes it so I am keeping it open as a low-end tight end one this week.
28:13I hear you because I was also high on him in the preseason.
28:17I think he's a great talent. I think Jordan Love's a good quarterback.
28:20But. But. I feel like there's a but coming.
28:23There's definitely a but. I have to close this because of how bad their protection is and not just because of how
28:29bad it is, but the way that LeFleur may respond to getting some of those looks.
28:33And he's starting to go into some of those max pass protection looks when you have the running back and you keep the tight end in there.
28:41And so if you're going to keep Tuckler in for protection, I think that's going to lower his route participation and his just utilization in total.
28:48So it just kind of depends on schematically how you view protecting Jordan Love.
28:52And that's what concerns me. He's a little bit more mobile.
28:55I mean, I think they'll figure it out. They have a couple of good blocking tight ends there in Green Bay.
29:01So I could certainly see that. But again, like they'll do some stuff where, you know, Cardinals will bring pressure.
29:06Kraft will chip and then release out. And again, there's just not a lot of the guys to throw to.
29:12So again, it's been tough. He's also a red zone target and the Cardinals, as I mentioned, giving up a couple of touchdowns recently to opposing tight ends.
29:20So yeah, again, tight end 12. I'm keeping it open on Tucker Kraft.
29:23Are you keeping it open or closing it out?
29:26I'm going to remain closed. All right. I'm going to remain closed.
29:29I don't like what I saw against Atlanta. All right.
29:32Fair enough, Beatle. You get to break the tie.
29:34No, I'm not going to break the tie. It's not on my team.
29:38Break it. I don't know. I have no opinion on him.
29:41It's going to be for us for this week.
29:43However, we got some mailbag. We got some mailbag.
29:46The regulars. Exciting. The regulars weigh in. We've got some of your comments coming up next.
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30:59All right. So for people that have been following Fantasy Football Happy Hour, the podcast for years and years and years, the
31:05regulars, the regulars at the Happy Hour bar. Get it.
31:08Great group. Great group. And so they have formed their own discord.
31:12There is a Fantasy Football Happy Hour discord that I encourage everyone to join in.
31:16Eventually, we're still working out the kinks. Technology, we're trying to figure it all out.
31:20The show used to be live on YouTube, and we would take YouTube comments during the show.
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31:46So I know there's been a lot of talk in the discord.
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32:06So here's some of the common questions beads that came up from our discord.
32:09Gotcha. You should jump in. Both of you guys should jump in.
32:13Say hi to the regulars. I'll have to look up what a discord is, but as soon as I figure that out, I'll be in it.
32:20You're such an old. You're such an old. All right.
32:23I'm an old. Okay. Anyway, so. Okay. So you ready?
32:26Yeah. These are some of the regulars. What do we got?
32:29These are the regular. Okay. Raise the flags. Yep.
32:31Asks, is it time to bench all bucks until further notice with the Baker injury?
32:35Yeah. I mean, this is a tough break with Baker Mayfield.
32:38And we actually talked about it in the first hour of pregame yesterday.
32:42But my answer is no, at least as it relates to the running back, right?
32:46I have Bucky Irving at running back 14. I think they go, you know, fairly run heavy here.
32:51So look, Jalen Daniels is going to talk as started quarterback.
32:54And I want Mo to talk about Jalen Daniels because I know you have a strong opinion there.
32:59But I have a book outside my top 40.
33:02I have Godwin outside my top 60. I want to see this passing attack before I'm willing to invest in it.
33:07So I'm, I'm benching all the pass catchers in Tampa Bay until I see what Daniels looks like.
33:12But I do think Bucky Irving will be productive.
33:15The other thing that's a concern here, Mo, is that the, you know, the team total is, you know, tied to the
33:21third lowest on the week four slate. So they're not expecting a ton of points under Daniels for a start.
33:27Well, they're not, but I am. And so I think the question also suggests Baker's been playing great.
33:32And he hasn't been. He really hasn't. I mean, it's one of the worst beginnings, two seasons in his NFL career.
33:37So like we're thinking there's going to be this massive drop off.
33:41And I get why you would say that because we have an undrafted quarterback coming.
33:45Oh, new. I'm just pointing. I'm just pointing at the cameras.
33:48They watch me drink. That's right. I was like, what?
33:51Okay. So Jalen Daniels, right? Undrafted rookie quarterback from Kansas.
33:53Yeah. Nobody thought that he would even win the two job.
33:56I mean, that was really big for him. The big thing would be, is he even going to make the 53-man roster?
34:03And he surpassed expectations. Preseason tape, one of the best you'll see.
34:06Now, obviously, is it hard to project from preseason you're going against twos and threes to now you're playing an NFL starter defense.
34:12What I will say in your first start, there's not a book on you.
34:16So you do have that advantage. We've seen guys in their first start light it up.
34:21And then as it kind of transitions, it gets tougher and tougher.
34:24He is a guy, though, that can use his legs, right?
34:27And so he can extend plays when a rush is coming up.
34:30The offensive line hasn't played great. So I think that's an advantage to Jalen, the ability to do so.
34:36And with the receivers, I don't think I'm as low as you are on it because he does like to push the ball down the field.
34:43We saw him do that at Kansas. So I do think that they can get something going, especially because Baker hasn't been amazing.
34:49He's a believer. Okay. No, listen. I think he's a really interesting, again, because he gets you points with his legs, I think he was really interesting.
34:57He went for a lot of money in my Dynasty League this morning in terms of waivers.
35:01He was a popular pickup in every two-quarterback league that I'm in as well.
35:05So, I mean, I think there's potentially some fantasy value from Daniels, again, to your point of the legs.
35:10Like, someone suggested, I remember it was you, said Tyler Huntley, like a better Tyler Huntley would be a good comp for Jalen Daniels.
35:17What do you think about that? I think he runs a little bit better than Tyler, but sure, Tyler Huntley, pro bowler.
35:23Yeah, fair enough. Yes, Huntley is in fact a pro bowler here.
35:27All right, Beatle, who else is next? What else?
35:29What else? I've got Phil underscore 25. Okay. Are you selling neighbors for the best offer you can get right now, or
35:35are you staying the course with them? Yeah, I'm going to stay the course with them.
35:40I just feel like, look, Malik Neighbors is a superstar, and you're basically selling him at his lowest point, which is never ideal.
35:46So, two of the three games so far this season, 29% target share, it leads to 29% target share for Malik Neighbors as well.
35:53I think the dud last week, partially due to, you know, weather.
35:56They're going to fix this, right? I will tell you, like, if you listen to Fantasy Football Happy Hour in the preseason,
36:02we had Stefania Bell on to talk about kind of the biggest injury concerns, and she spent a lot of time talking
36:08about Malik Neighbors and that she was worried about a slow start to the season for Malik as he came back from
36:14not just one, but two very serious injuries. And so, look, we know he's going to get a massive target share.
36:20We know that John Harbaugh is trying to address this passing game, making the trade for J.J.
36:25McCarthy as well. So, like, either Winston's going to get better or they're going to go to J.J.
36:30Doesn't necessarily mean that all of a sudden Malik Neighbors' fantasy prospects are going to skyrocket, but again, we've seen Isaiah likely be productive in this offense.
36:37I think they'll be able to move the ball.
36:40Malik Neighbors is just too good and gets too much of a target share that I want to bail on him at his lowest point.
36:47I don't mind trading him at some point, but at least wait until you get a good game here.
36:52I'm with you. If anything, I would buy low.
36:54If you have an opportunity to do so, especially coming off a bad weather game where I think everyone's kind of low
37:00on him, you're coming off the knee, we know how that really affected him mentally.
37:05Like, he just felt like he wasn't ready and now you're getting game after game of repetition and experience and he's feeling like his old self again.
37:12The question is, can Jameis get him the ball as consistent as possible?
37:16We know he's the most talented wide receiver on this roster, so I certainly wouldn't sell at this point when in theory,
37:22you can make the argument this is probably the lowest value he's going to be all season.
37:27Yeah. Okay, I love this next one. Shuck around and find out asks and I'm going to appreciate this answer as well.
37:33How long should I stick with Justin Herbert, Omarion Hampton, Ladd McConkie, and other Chargers offensive fantasy players before benching them or just cutting bait altogether?
37:40Yeah. Shuck around and find out is one of the all-time good names there.
37:44Right, exactly. There's a lot of puns you can make with the word shuck, Beetle.
37:48Really? Yeah. Aim four. Yeah, you can... Oh, shuck?
37:50Oh, shuck. Shuck you. Oh, wow. Are you shucking kidding?
37:53You know, like... Shuckinator? Yeah, I mean, like, you know...
37:56That's definitely not one. Have you... You know, can you believe how many shucking beavers there are at the zoo?
38:01I almost said one that was going to be horrible.
38:04You know what? Let's just get out of this.
38:07what was the one you were going to say?
38:09Because the first part was bad, so it's not like...
38:12I can't keep it moving. No, I meant I was appreciative of the question because I have two of the gentlemen that
38:18he has asked about and I am on pins and needles for this answer.
38:22You were in Sharknado 4, so right there. That is true.
38:25I think you understand what a pun is. Yeah.
38:27That was bad. That was brutal. That was pretty...
38:30That was bad. That was not good. I'll explain in the break.
38:33Yeah, thank you. By the way, that's another segment we should do.
38:37Thanks, Beetle explains to Mo in the break. You'd be amazed.
38:40All right, so here we go. So the answer is...
38:42Okay, so here's my answer. No, no, no, no.
38:45no. Like, so, listen, I'm sticking with McConkie. Listen, he's my wide receiver 28 this week.
38:49I've been to the top 30 play. Probably still...
38:52I'm hoping they figure it out with Hampton, but that's about it.
38:55Hampton and Lad McConkie. I've happened at running back 24.
38:58He's like a touchdown dependent flex. It's been bad, and we're seeing Keaton Mitchell's usage go up, and we're seeing Hampton's go down.
39:04So, but in terms of just cutting bait, like, if Hampton and Lad McConkie were in the waiver wire in any league, I would be like, I'm...
39:12They're too talented, and the potential for the role was too great.
39:15I would immediately jump on them. If I saw QJ in a league, in a one quarterback league, I don't know that I'm jumping on Justin Herbert.
39:23So, I don't mind cutting Herbert, QJ, or even Gadson.
39:25This week, I have QJ at wide receiver 62, Gadson at tight end 22, and Herbert outside my top 20 at quarterback as well.
39:32So, that's sort of my answer there. I do think...
39:35I'm still holding out hope and hanging the light on for McConkie and Hampton because of the talent and because of the
39:41potential big role in that offense, but the rest of them you're just sort of like...
39:45Especially, again, as we've talked about their schedule, at Seattle this week, home to Denver, at Kansas City, bye, play the Rams.
39:51I would say, of that group, I would be least mad at cutting Justin.
39:55God, it's crazy. Because, you know, the turnovers I don't think are going to help, and I don't think he's going to be terribly efficient.
40:02And he's not running. Again, and he's not running.
40:05It's so weird. It's like I said this all last week.
40:08The guy I like... Yeah, you're right. So weird.
40:10You don't know his ball. You're right. The guy I like the most is Ladd because...
40:15Beal does no ball. Even if the quarterback's not efficient, and if he's turning the ball over, you're still going to get
40:21targets, and you're still going to get receptions. And I think you're the primary weapon in this offense.
40:26And you're going to be playing from behind. Yes.
40:28So, of that group, I would prefer Ladd, and then, like you said, the Keaton Mitchell thing, that scares me a lot
40:34in terms of getting the running game going. By the way, nice restraint on not making a joke after playing from behind.
40:41I would never. That's below me, below my station.
40:43It really isn't. I've known you for a long time.
40:46It really isn't. Don't worry. That's right in your wheelhouse.
40:49It's all right here. All right. What's next? A, Parides, or Parides, 305 asks, drop Marshawn Lloyd to pick up either Raylan Allen or Ollie Gordon.
40:56Full PPR. Yes. Go. Yes. Yes. I mean, like, I mean, the answer is yes.
41:00I just, again, going back to the thing, like, I always think, I always think about it like this.
41:05If Marshawn Lloyd, like, whenever I have a question about, like, should I drop this player or not?
41:10I always think, like, well, if this player were available as a free agent in my league, am I trying to pick him up?
41:17If Marshawn Lloyd was a free agent in a league where I didn't have him, am I trying to go get a
41:23guy who's part of a three-head committee on a team that can't run the ball and has a bad defense so he's
41:29going to be in pass script all the time and then you like Chris Brooks in that role a lot better?
41:35No. I have Marshawn Lloyd at running back 44 this week.
41:38Braylon Allen, Braylon Allen, I think, is going to be a top 20-ish running back as long as Brees Hall is out.
41:44So it's smart, but like, especially if you need a win this week or the next couple weeks, I certainly prefer Braylon
41:50Allen who's my running back 23 this week and I have Ollie Gordon at 33.
41:54Again, we talked about this Mo yesterday where we don't know necessarily that this Dolphins offense is going to be, it's not going to be great.
42:01Devon Achan was running back 21 through two weeks.
42:04Like, it's not like, you know, they suddenly went off and Ollie Gordon's going to be a worse version of Achan because
42:10he's not going to get nearly the workload. You're going to see some Jalen Wright.
42:14But I'll just, you know, I think he's got, Ollie Gordon's got a better shot at a touchdown than Marshawn Lloyd does.
42:20That's for sure. For sure. I'm with you on both definitely in the short term.
42:24Yeah. My question is, does Brees Hall coming back in a few weeks, does that factor into this decision?
42:30And if so, would you stick with Braylon Allen even with Brees Hall over Marshawn Lloyd?
42:34Yeah, I think so. Okay. Because Marshawn Lloyd, at least at the moment, is a committee running back on a team that can't run the ball.
42:41Braylon Allen will be a committee running, I mean, it's still going to be Brees Hall, but Braylon Allen, like, Braylon Allen
42:47will get eight to ten touches a game, and so he won't be ranked highly, but in a world where Brees Hall
42:54is active, can I see scenarios where I would have Braylon Allen ranked ahead of Marshawn Lloyd even if Brees Hall's out there?
43:00And the answer is yes because they do like Braylon Allen at the goal line.
43:04So again, you're, and so far, nothing we've seen through three weeks makes you think like, oh yeah, that's the Marshawn Lloyd we've been waiting on.
43:11And I think the offense as a unit, if it's close, I would err on just a better offense too and a better offensive line.
43:18Which is crazy that the Jets are the answer there and not the, the Packers can't block.
43:23I mean, it's been tough, right? I like this.
43:25Bradley, just Bradley. Okay. Asks, should I trade downs for a Dunzey?
43:29Full PPR. It depends on the league. It didn't say whether it's a, you know, dynasty league or a redraft league.
43:35My guess is no. To be perfectly honest, like, I just feel like, look, if you're strong at wide receiver, it depends
43:41on, like, do I need somebody to start this week or am I just trying to fortify bench depth?
43:46Because I think that basically downs is the better floor play.
43:49Dunzey has more upside, right? So, generally speaking, I'm probably sticking with downs, right?
43:53Much better short-term outlook, I think, from both a target and fantasy production standpoint.
43:57No Alec Pierce. It's just, basically just him, Keenan Allen and Tyler Warren.
44:00They play the commanders this week. It's the London game.
44:03Should be great. But a Dunzey, as we talked about, when Caleb Williams comes back, like, there's a chance that a Dunzey could explode.
44:10Yes. There's a guy that was a top 10 overall pick in the NFL draft at one point.
44:15Like, we like the talent quite a bit. I think he's a more talented NFL wide receiver than Josh Downs.
44:20But in terms of potential for fantasy production, in the short term it's definitely Downs and potentially long term again depending on
44:26when Caleb gets back and they have a lot of mouths to feed in Chicago.
44:31Yeah, I mean, that's definitely right. I agree with you.
44:33In the short term, Josh Downs, one million percent.
44:36I mean, if my wide receiver too is tied for oldest age in the NFL and Josh Downs is one of the
44:42most rising stars there in the slot, I believe saw a stat with his win percentage as well.
44:47It seems like he just gets so much separation.
44:49We know the run game is going to be successful.
44:52They're going to do a good job in the play action.
44:55So, very, very high on Josh Downs. Odunze, again, long term play.
44:59When Caleb comes back loves to stretch the field vertically, Ben Johnson's going to script incredible plays for him and get him open.
45:05So, yeah, it just kind of depends on the situation for me.
45:08This is our last question of the day, BG33.
45:11And by the way, of all the questions, this one feels like I could feel his tension here.
45:16Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a dynasty question. If you're a contender and you have a young player in a bad offensive situation, what do you do?
45:23I don't want to trade away five or more plus potential years of production.
45:27I also don't want to waste a season in contention either.
45:30I can feel the stress. Yeah, I mean, I don't, I think it's too early to answer that question to be perfectly honest.
45:37Like, we're through three weeks. Like, again, most dynasty leagues don't have a trade deadline or if they do, it's like week 12, 13, 14, somewhere in there.
45:44That's when you get closer. Like, again, I think it's too early to make a, I'm going for a trade in week three.
45:51It's also too early to be like, I'm bailing on the season.
45:54If you definitely know you're bailing on it, that's right.
45:57But like, you're sitting here, the question, BG, is if you're a contender and have a young player in a bad offensive situation, what do you do?
46:04I just think if you're a contender, you'll know further on.
46:07You'll have a better sense of the player as the season goes on.
46:11You'll have a better sense of your needs. By the way, I just don't like trading a chip like that here in
46:17week three because, again, like, you probably felt really good if you had Devon Achan a week ago and now all of
46:23a sudden if you were a contender. By the way, I'm a contender.
46:27In my dynasty league, I'm in a dynasty league with producer Damian and a bunch of my buddies from ESPN, like, you
46:33know, Field Yates and Mike Clay and all those guys.
46:36long time, and I'm a contender in that league.
46:38I lost in the finals last year to Daniel Dopp.
46:41And Devon Achan is one of my centerpieces and I just lost him for the season.
46:45So my point being is that now I'm a contender.
46:48Now do I need to go out and find another running back?
46:51Can I have Ali Gordon and Jalen Wright so I'm going to wait to sort of see as well.
46:57But, like, you just, you never know. There's so many injuries.
47:00That's a trade chip you may need later. So it's just, it's too early right now after three weeks to be making,
47:06you know, going for it Are you in the dynasty league, Mo?
47:09I'm not, actually. It's fun. Yeah, it sounds fun, especially like with buddies and it kind of just stays consistent.
47:15Throughout the years, yeah. Do you have any young guys that you would consider on your team?
47:19Like, do you have an example of something like this that might work?
47:23Yeah, I mean, Devon Achan is actually a perfect example, right?
47:26Like, that's a chip that I'm thinking about dealing now because, like, he's out for the year.
47:31So, but he's still a young player. He's a young player in a bad offensive environment.
47:35We think he will be good. He has been good, but he's obviously no use to me this year.
47:40Would that be selling low? No, because I think that for a team in my league that is rebuilding, like, you're selling
47:46a little bit low but, like, you know, if you need production, like, your window to win in dynasty are usually, it's a fairly small window.
47:54So, so that's one of the considerations I'm having just to answer your question about my dynasty league is that, should I trade?
48:00Should I go to a team that is rebuilding and saying, like, would you be interested in Devon Achan who we know
48:06is a superstar player going to get a ton of work but he's not helping you this year?
48:11Most teams that are already playing for next year would prefer to do that because let me get something for a, for a bad player.
48:18Let me get something for an older player that's not going to help me win whereas Achan can candidly help me lose this year.
48:25I want a better draft pick next year and help me as I'm trying to rebuild.
48:29Right? Like, last year I traded Mike Evans, you know, like, I traded for Mike Evans because I was going for the title last year.
48:36I traded him actually with producer Ed. Producer Ed has one of the worst teams in the league.
48:41He's like, he was in a rebuilding year as well.
48:44There he is right now. Hold on. Hold on.
48:46We're running out of time. We've got to go to break.
48:49We've got to go to break. Matthew, how many times have you won this league?
48:54I, we have to, we have to get to break.
48:56How many times, Matthew? How many times have you won?
48:59I've been in the finals many times I've yet to come home with a championship.
49:03How many times have I won the league, Matthew?
49:06You've sadly won it twice. Wow. What? Yes. Do I love Ed more today?
49:10No, you hate him. Yeah, you're right. He's the most annoying fantasy player because he constantly is just like, why don't you just draft good players?
49:17That's what I do. That's how I feel. Can I ask you this one thing about dynasty?
49:22It sounds very committal. You have to commit to it.
49:24Do you not invite... And Beatle hates commitment to be clear.
49:27It's just as me out. I'm like, five years from now, I'm not a chance.
49:32Are there people that you have as friends but you're like, I can't bring you in here because I know you'll give up after a year?
49:39Have you not brought people in for that reason?
49:41Yes, yes, 100%. You would never invite Beatle. I was just about to say, yes, I have a friend like that or her name rhymes with Michelle Beatle.
49:49Yeah, I mean, 1,000%. You'd be terrible in a year.
49:52100%. You get bored too quickly. Five years from now?
49:55You said five years and I went, That's the idea of a dynasty league is that, again, you're rebuilding and you constantly have something to play for.
50:02You're either playing for this year or you're playing for next year.
50:05And so, again, you never want to be, the worst place to be in a dynasty league is like trying to go for fifth.
50:12Right? You either need to be fully tanking or fully going for it.
50:16And so, for BG, I don't think you're at that spot yet.
50:19You don't know yet after three weeks whether you're, it's too early to make a...
50:23To just marinate BG. Yeah, to trade a young asset for an older player with production.
50:28You should do a dynasty league. That's my advice to you.
50:31No, not less. Let's do a show dynasty. Did he not hear me?
50:34No, yeah, you're young. You'll have many years ahead of you.
50:37I have time ahead of you. We'll be back with Last Call.
50:41We're going to be lucky. I could be dead before the end of this show.
50:45If Beatles here in January, we'll be, that's like the overall cash.
50:48It's just here next week. Truer words. Back with Last Call today.
50:51Taking a look at the old NFL MVP market.
50:54Trying to make our picks right now. Look, mine's boring and it's, I don't mean to be because here are your odds
51:00and the odds on favorite is the perfect man, Josh Allen.
51:03So I picked him, but I would have picked him regardless.
51:06You would choose the favorite. Well, he can do no wrong.
51:09No wrong in my eyes, quite frankly. No, and by the way, he can do no wrong in my eyes either.
51:15Like, take a shot of Mo real quickly. Can you, there we go.
51:19No, pull out. Can we pan out a little bit?
51:21I just want to pan out. Keep panning out.
51:24Here we go. Here we go. There we go.
51:26Look who's over the shoulder of Mo. Of Mo.
51:29Yeah, Josh Allen, proud fantasy life investor. Josh Allen, number one quarterback in fantasy football, Josh Allen.
51:33Can do no wrong, Josh Allen. Has a movie star wife, still produces on the field.
51:38Can't say that. She's also a singer. Singer, movie star.
51:41He's got a, he's got a beautiful celebrity wife and he still manages to produce on the field.
51:46You can't say that about every superstar quarterback. I'm just going to say that.
51:50So anyway, Josh Allen, that's Beatles pick. I like the pick.
51:53There's a reason why he's the favorite. Yeah. He is always the MVP.
51:56My pick here though, I'm going with Brock Purdy, the guy that I talked about at the top of the show.
52:02I like the odds at, you know, at plus 425.
52:05Look, 3-0 leads the NFL with 133 passer rating.
52:07Leads the NFL and EPA per drop back. More than twice, Josh Allen's rate, completing 72% of his passes.
52:13And you think about all the injuries to San Francisco, I think Brock Purdy, I think has a chance to win.
52:18The bar, I feel like MVP is also kind of a perception game.
52:22Yeah. And that there's, there's a perception here that Josh Allen, well, he's so good.
52:26It's all, you know what I mean? Like Josh, Josh Allen actually has a higher bar to clear, to impress people because they're already so impressed.
52:33Whereas I think people are finally coming around to the fact like, oh, oh, Brock Purdy's not a system quarterback.
52:39Oh, oh, Brock Purdy's actually really good. It's a good story, but you mentioned injuries.
52:43I don't see how that's a net positive. At some point, that's going to affect you.
52:47If you're missing, you're starting left tackle and your biggest wide receiver on the outside, you know, long enough term, that's going
52:54to affect your stats, which is why. But if he can, but if he can overcome them, that's why.
52:59Sure, yeah, if you can overcome them, then sure, it adds to the story.
53:03But I'm saying it's going to be a significant drop off in your stats more so than it is a good story.
53:09Speaking of stats, Lamar Jackson. Sure. I've heard of him.
53:12I think it's better value, especially at plus 600.
53:14I agree with you though. If the season ended today, Brock Purdy deserves the trophy, but we're going to project outward to a 17 game schedule.
53:21The way he is playing right now, especially in situational football, we know that this award's going to go towards the quarterback with a good record.
53:28I think they have a good defense as well.
53:31I also think he has a chip on his shoulder.
53:34Remember he got ranked 69th in the top 100 coming to it?
53:37He said 69. That's disrespectful, right? The last time that happened.
53:40It is actually true. 2023, he got ranked 72nd.
53:43What did he do after that? He said, I'm going to win MVP.
53:46Guess what? He had number two rankings in back-to-back years after that.
53:50He's also got a man named Derrick Henry in the backfield with him, and Zay Flowers is playing the best football of his life.
53:56So he's got everything around him to win this MVP.
53:59He's going for number three. Yeah, I don't have an issue with that.
54:03I mean, Lamar is awesome. Like, looks like a new man.
54:06I'm with you. That motivation was real. By the way, the two times that Aaron Rodgers was left out of the top
54:1210 overall, he went out and won the MVP the next year overall.
54:15So the fact that Lamar Jackson inexplicably was ranked 69th in the top 100 players is like kind of an insane ranking.
54:21But again, Moe, to your point, like you got to stay healthy.
54:25And so my concern is, again, like Zay Flowers has already been banged up.
54:29Jacoby Lane is on IR. He does have Derrick Henry as well.
54:32So I like Lamar. I think he's awesome. But health will be an issue.
54:36But he doesn't have a substation next to his practices.
54:39He does not have a substation. If I never hear substation again, it'd be all right.
54:43You'll hear it tomorrow. You're going to hear it the entire year.
54:46You're going to hear the whole thing. I don't want to hear it anymore.
54:50Hey, please join our Discord. Discord? Yeah. I'm going to explain it.
54:54Maybe that'll be a segment tomorrow where I make Beatle download Discord and I show it to her.
54:59Oh, I have to download? Oof, I'm out. I have to download something?
55:02Anyway, all right. Is it like Reddit? A little bit, but it's like you can live comment on it.
55:07Okay, I like it. Moe, I'm sorry. She's an old.
55:10It is, it is, it is. All right, that's going to do it for a happy hour.
55:15Listen, it's closing time, which means you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
55:20Get out of here. Pregame with Matthew Berry. We'll be here live on the Roku Sports Channel at noon Eastern and then yeah.