The Sleeper Hold

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Sep 3, 2026

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Thu, September 3, 2026

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Sam DarnoldBo NixChuba HubbardColby ParkinsonCyrus AllenDylan SampsonEmeka EgbukaGreg DulcichIsiah PachecoJadarian PriceJahmyr GibbsJonathon BrooksJosh JacobsLuther Burden

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Bo Nix

NegativeValue22:33

The source is skeptical of Bo Nix's current ADP, noting he is being drafted five rounds ahead of Sam Darnold despite having fewer passing yards on significantly more attempts last year. The source also expresses concern regarding Nix's recovery from a late-season ankle injury.

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Chuba Hubbard

NegativeRole16:16

Chuba Hubbard remains a potential factor in the Panthers' backfield. The source notes that if Hubbard is healthy, he could be the preferred option over Jonathan Brooks, though they are generally avoiding the Panthers' offense as a whole.

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Colby Parkinson

PositiveSleeper57:50

Colby Parkinson is highlighted as a massive value at his current ADP (TE31-35). After week 9 last year, he ranked 6th in points, 2nd in points per target, and 1st in points per route among tight ends with 25+ targets. The source believes he could be a top-7 tight end in a Rams offense that frequently utilizes multiple tight-end sets.

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Cyrus Allen

PositiveBreakout42:36

The source highlights Cyrus Allen as a high-upside rookie who has built genuine rapport with Patrick Mahomes throughout the offseason. Despite being a fifth-round pick, he is competing for a WR2/3 role in the Chiefs' offense. The source recommends drafting him late (around pick 160-165) to monitor his snap counts and target-per-route-run metrics early in the season, noting that he could emerge as a significant fantasy asset if he earns a consistent role.

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Dylan Sampson

PositiveSleeper36:34

Dylan Samson is highlighted as a sneaky flex play, particularly in PPR formats. He led all running backs with over 40 targets in target-per-route-run (28%) and yards-per-route-run (1.9). The source views him as a strong contingency target for negative game scripts in Cleveland.

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Emeka Egbuka

NegativeInjury11:06

The source is moving away from Emeka Egbuka due to a turf toe injury that has kept him from practicing. The uncertainty regarding his recovery timeline, potential for re-injury, and the impact on his explosiveness make him a risky pick in the early rounds.

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Greg Dulcich

PositiveSleeper51:42

Greg Dulcich is a high-upside tight end target available after pick 150. Despite injury concerns, his efficiency metrics are elite: he ranked 8th in targets per route run, 3rd in yards per target, and 2nd in yards after catch per reception among qualified tight ends last year. The source views him as a perfect 'Plan B' for managers who draft early-round tight ends.

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Isiah Pacheco

NegativeInjury14:10

Isaiah Pacheco was sent to the IR, leading the source to bury him in their rankings. He is considered non-actionable for fantasy drafts.

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Jadarian Price

NegativeRole22:06

Jadarian Price is liked by the source, but there are concerns about whether he can handle a workhorse role in the Seahawks' offense.

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Jahmyr Gibbs

PositiveProjection14:26

The source moved Jahmyr Gibbs up in their rankings following the news surrounding the Detroit backfield, solidifying his status as a top-tier fantasy asset.

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Jonathon Brooks

NegativeInjury14:33

Jonathan Brooks is polarizing due to injury concerns. While there was initial optimism he would be ready for Week 1, recent reports suggest he might miss time. The source is willing to consider him if he slips in drafts, but is generally distancing themselves from the Panthers' offense.

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Josh Jacobs

NegativeUsage5:20

Josh Jacobs is a fade due to being placed on the commissioner's restricted list, which prevents him from practicing or playing indefinitely. Beyond the off-field concerns, the source notes that Jacobs showed signs of decline last year, ranking second in touches among active RBs behind Derrick Henry, with poor efficiency metrics including sub-50% success rate, negative EPA, and a low 6% explosive rush rate.

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Luther Burden

PositiveValue13:36

Luther Burden is preferred over Emeka Egbuka by the source because he is reportedly back to 100% health, whereas Egbuka is dealing with a lingering turf toe injury.

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Malik Willis

PositiveValue25:32

Malik Willis is the source's most rostered quarterback, valued for his rushing floor and proven downfield passing efficiency. The source argues Willis is a better fantasy asset than Justin Fields or Anthony Richardson at their respective costs, and he should be considered a clear week-one waiver wire headliner.

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MarShawn Lloyd

NegativeValue5:53

While the source previously championed Marshawn Lloyd, they are now cooling on him because his ADP has risen to the low 70s, which they believe is too expensive. Concerns include his injury history and the potential for the Packers' backfield to remain a committee, especially if Josh Jacobs returns or Caleb Johnson earns a larger role.

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Mike Evans

PositiveProjection13:54

The source believes Mike Evans is being 'bubble wrapped' by the 49ers and expects him to have a big season once he returns to full action, dismissing current concerns.

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Najee Harris

PositiveValue32:19

The source recommends Najee Harris as a late-round value pick, citing his reliability as a pass catcher and blocker. While acknowledging his own Achilles injury, the source notes Harris looked solid in the preseason and serves as a high-upside contingency play if the primary backfield situation in New York falters.

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Quinshon Judkins

NegativeUsage37:25

The source describes Quinshawn Judkins as a Nick Chubb-esque runner who can handle a pure workload, but prefers taking a flyer on his teammate Dylan Samson due to the latter's superior pass-catching profile and lower draft cost.

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Rashee Rice

NegativeBust44:48

The source expresses skepticism regarding Rashee Rice, citing concerns about his ability to win against press-man coverage and his overall consistency as a WR2. The source suggests that Rice may be exposed if forced to play on the outside, and notes that his fantasy outlook is clouded by off-field ambiguity.

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Sam Darnold

PositiveSleeper21:31

Sam Darnold is a sleeper quarterback going outside the top 150. While his weekly consistency was questionable last year, he was effective overall. His value could increase if the Seahawks' backfield remains weak until Zach Charbonnet returns.

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PositiveValue21:55

The source argues Sam Darnold is a strong value pick who can hang with quarterbacks drafted five rounds earlier. Despite low team volume, Darnold was efficient, throwing for 4,000 yards last year while ranking 15th in attempts. He is a viable QB2 for best ball and superflex formats.

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Tre Tucker

PositiveValue48:14

Trey Tucker is identified as a strong value pick in the 150-160 range. He led the Raiders in routes, targets, receptions, yards, and touchdowns last year. The source views him as the team's definitive WR1 and a beneficiary of the play-action system, projecting a potential breakout season.

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Xavier Worthy

NegativeBust45:00

The source questions whether Xavier Worthy has proven himself to be a consistent WR2 for the Chiefs, labeling him as 'fragile' in the context of the team's receiving depth chart.

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1:49What's up and welcome back. Can you believe it?

1:52Looks like we made it. It is the last off-season episode of Fantasy Football Weekly.

1:57With your host, faithful narrator John Laghezza. My friend and yours, Mr.

2:01Jake Trowbridge. Jake, how are you doing? If it was the 11th hour, it's the 11th hour and like the 59th minute.

2:08Are you dotting your I's and crossing your T's?

2:11What's going on? We spend so much time preparing.

2:14Not only our listeners, John, but ourselves in doing this.

2:18But there's a part of me that always breaks into a cold sweat when we start talking about this being the last week of the preseason.

2:26Because all of that preparation. Now we've really got to put it into action.

2:31And it's no matter how many years you're doing this, there's always it's mostly good excitement.

2:36But there's a little bit of anxiety that creeps in, at least for me, too.

2:41Once we start having to put this stuff into use.

2:45Yeah. All these season long contests, man, have added this volume element for me.

2:49And I just can't wait to stop drafting. It's like it's the best part.

2:54And of course, like everything else, we really overdo it.

2:57But, you know, you get really familiar with the board movements in the market.

3:02Some players you were way ahead on me, like Marshawn Lloyd.

3:05Some players maybe not so much. But we were talking about we're kind of at a dead point.

3:11Players are getting bubble wrap. Not much should be going on.

3:15And of course, what ends up happening? News drops and things are going on.

3:20Josh Jacobs is on the front of everybody's mind.

3:23The Green Bay running back. He was placed on the commissioner's restricted list.

3:27So I'm not great with this stuff. I got they placed Jacobs on the list following formal charges filed against him.

3:34He cannot practice or attend games indefinitely while they review the matter.

3:38There really isn't much concrete stuff. Now, Ari Mirov, I think it is, said the surveillance video was out.

3:44I hadn't seen any of it. It confirms relevant portions of the woman's account.

3:49I don't really know anything beyond the little bit that can be explained to me.

3:54But right now, it looks like we're not going to guess Josh Jacobs.

3:58But we've seen this turn into a year lost.

4:01This could just be like six games where Josh Jacobs is sinking like a stone in lots of drafts right now, Jake.

4:09Character, part of this aside, because he's obviously not a good guy.

4:13Would you draft him on the hope that he only misses six games?

4:17Missing six games mean he still could play in 11.

4:20And guess what? They are all the most important ones.

4:23You're a Packer guy. What do we think about Josh Jacobs from the fantasy football perspective?

4:29Yeah, John, I've been staying away from Josh Jacobs all offseason.

4:32I've been telling listeners, stay away from Josh Jacobs.

4:35Just because outside of everything that's happened off the field, I even thought on the field last year that it looked like

4:43the wear and tear was catching up to him.

4:46This is a guy who has the second most touches of any active running back in the NFL, just behind Derrick Henry.

4:53And I thought that was starting to show last year.

4:56Once all this stuff started to enter the fray, it was just wiping my hands clean and moving on.

5:03I had started to take some nibbles towards Marshawn Lloyd, towards even Chris Brooks at a certain point.

5:09Now, of course, the Packers have added Caleb Johnson from Pittsburgh into the mix.

5:13So I'm not reversing course on Josh Jacobs. I'm staying away.

5:17It doesn't matter how far he falls down draft boards, because as you said, OK, maybe he misses the first six games.

5:24A, that's a lot of games. And B, it could be much longer than that, because he is effectively right now serving

5:32a suspension without there being an official suspension. He's on this list.

5:35He can't come off of it until something happens one way or the other.

5:40So I'm not going to try to sleuth through that, figure out when that's going to be.

5:46I'm just moving on. I'm still comfortable taking Marshawn Lloyd, though less so by the minute, because he's going up draft boards fast.

5:53And Caleb Johnson's a late-round dart that I'm interested in.

5:57Yeah, interesting how that's kind of flipped on its head for me.

6:01I was, like yourself, at 0.0% Josh Jacobs through the entirety of this, because there was this chance, and we had the fall-off.

6:08I think it's important that you mention that. We're not hearing a lot of that.

6:13A lot of what we're hearing is, man, if you get Josh Jacobs, you get this kind of RB1.

6:20YPA was at 4 below 1 yard before contact per rush, even if you want to put that on the offensive line.

6:27Still at 3.0 yards after contact per attempt, which is not great.

6:31Negative EPA, sub-50% success rate, single-digit more like a 6% explosive rush rate.

6:35These are not great, especially with a lot of volume.

6:39You want those explosive rates up. If you're going to be getting the rock a lot, yeah, he scores a lot of

6:46TDs, but that could be the first thing to go.

6:49So, I'm with you. Also, I was going to ask about Lloyd.

6:53I'm glad you mentioned it. I went from the preeminent Marshawn Lloyd draft.

6:57I just tweeted it the other day. I showed you.

7:01My average ADP was in the 180s. I've been tracking drafts literally every second of every day.

7:06He's going in like the low 70s. I'm with you.

7:10I think that's gone entirely too far because, one, we've never really seen him stay healthy, even if he is good.

7:17And Jacobs could, in fact, enter the fray. Now, let me ask you about that low 70s price.

7:23Is it because Jacobs is still somewhat technically lurking?

7:26What if we found out Jacobs is out for the season?

7:29We've got to be interested in somebody for the Packers running the ball.

7:34Where would your opinion be in that case? Because I think, again, right now you waiting for a piece of news is very, very smart.

7:42Let's say we were to get that because I think that could be coming down the pike.

7:48Now, how do we treat the Packers backfield? I think they're projected for too many wins to outright ignore them.

7:54Yeah, you can't ignore them. But I don't think you will ever get to a point or should get to a point

8:02where Marshawn Lloyd is just replacing Josh Jacobs in ADP.

8:05Where Jacobs was earlier in the offseason, I should say.

8:08We haven't seen it from Marshawn Lloyd. We've seen plenty of Josh Jacobs.

8:12And even though I didn't love what I saw towards the end of last year, I get why people were at one

8:20point saying, OK, I'll take him in the third round and be comfortable.

8:24I'd never be comfortable taking Marshawn Lloyd there. Even if you could guarantee me he was going to stay healthy for 17

8:31games, which you can't, because that's just how these injury histories work, unfortunately.

8:36But also, again, the lurking is not of Josh Jacobs for me.

8:40It's about Caleb Johnson. This guy who obviously last year he was drafted in the third round, clearly had a case of

8:47the yips with Pittsburgh, never got over it. I think it literally started with just a bad kickoff return.

8:53And there was fumble and shenanigans with that. And I don't think he ever got mentally right after that.

9:00We've seen a change of scenery fix a lot of things.

9:03This is a good offense. This is a good outside zone running scheme for Caleb Johnson.

9:09So I can't be confident that we won't see a 50-50 split between those two guys even.

9:14So I'm much more comfortable taking Johnson just because his ADP is still in the dirt.

9:19Marshawn Lloyd, though, you know, in the seventh round, I guess.

9:23But I'm never going to jump, I think, earlier than that.

9:27Yeah, Caleb Johnson is on the move up. I've been having a hard time getting him, actually.

9:32I had him probably in, like, the low 200s on my ranks.

9:36He's going more, you know, people start to get a whiff of a player they think maybe could pop.

9:43And I agree. It's possible. It's still a very vulnerable backfield, like you mentioned.

9:47I think you also make a really good point with the unforced errors kind of cascading for him.

9:53That was the singular worst place for that to happen with Aaron Rodgers.

9:58And, in fact, man, I didn't get to listen to the whole clip.

10:02But there is a clip on social media making the rounds literally today of Caleb Johnson, like, joking about Aaron Rodgers stuffing him in a broom closet.

10:11Like, I don't know if he meant physically or...

10:14At least emotionally. Yeah, right. You get stuffed in the emotional broom closet.

10:18But that is a case. And we know Rodgers has very little tolerance for that, being out of position, especially when it

10:26ends up with him on his back. So there is a great spot.

10:30I think Green Bay does a good job of coaching guys up.

10:34I'm with the Johnson thing. And I just think, for listeners, if you're going into drafts, be ready around 175.

10:40Because, you know what? That's when people start to throw ADP out the window, which I'm okay with.

10:46I still think I might like some other players.

10:49Which, actually, is what we're going to be talking about in a little while.

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10:57Forgot to mention. We will be talking about sleepers after these news and notes.

11:02But the next guy is a player that I was really into.

11:06I'm mentioning this because I'm starting to run for the exit.

11:10That's Emeka Egbuka, who, again, I really like. But there's a lot of competition for targets there.

11:15They finally admitted it is turf toe, which we know has derailed seasons.

11:20It's very hard on explosivity. I think we were talking about that last week.

11:24You were mentioning that. Now, Egbuka still has not practiced.

11:28I was looking it up feverishly today. I got working with trainers on the side field.

11:33Running without any obvious problems. But just like you were saying, running, you know, non-competitive practice running is not the same as

11:40the type of explosiveness and max force you have to put on these joints.

11:45Where are you in Egbuka? This is a guy I was really into.

11:49There's so many wide receivers in that realm. Jake, I'm now off the Egbuka thing.

11:54Ah, man, this one could burn me. But I am an injury pessimist.

11:58How are you feeling here? Yeah, I was all in on Egbuka in all formats.

12:03Still very much in on him in Dynasty. I'm not running for the exit as you are, I don't think.

12:10But I am walking towards it, you know, with my back towards the exit.

12:15Just kind of feeling the wall, making sure I still know where the exit is with Egbuka.

12:20What concerns me with him is the unknown timeline.

12:23How many games could Egbuka miss? How many games could he exit early because the injury flares up?

12:29Or how many games will he just be much less effective even if he is technically on the field?

12:36When I'm drafting someone in these early rounds, those are questions that weigh really heavily.

12:41And it's the same type of concern that I have for Malik neighbors that I know not everybody shares.

12:47But before the injury with Egbuka, I would have happily reached to get him in the third round.

12:53Because I was just projecting, again, this Jackson Smith and Jigba type of arch upward.

12:58And now, even if he's sitting there at the end of the fourth, I'm just, oh, it almost pains me to click it.

13:05I think I'm at the point where if I'm at the turn and I can get him in the beginning of the

13:13fifth, I'm still very much into it because I do think that the sky is available to Egbuka.

13:19But it's how soon are we going to get there with him that scares me.

13:24Man, that's a great callout. It's funny. I've still just had trouble because there's other wide receivers with other injury punishments baked

13:31into their ADP that are looking more up. Like Luther Burden is now back.

13:36They said he looks 100%. And if I have to choose between the two, yeah, I wanted Egbuka apples to apples to begin with.

13:44But now, to me, they were just close enough that I'm kind of going with Burden.

13:49Same for Mike Evans also. I'm not really buying that out of San Fran.

13:54I think they're bubble wrapping him. He's going to come out and explode.

13:58Everyone's going to go, oh, man, Mike Evans is going to have a big season.

14:03Anyway, two quick RB notes. We can tackle them both at once.

14:07One was just Isaiah Pacheco got sent to the IR.

14:10I really wasn't drafting him. Anyway, the second he got hurt, I kind of buried him so far in my ranks.

14:17No one subscribing to my stuff was going to get him.

14:21I don't know. What did we do? We moved Gibbs up to the negative 101.

14:26So, yes, there's really not much there. And then Jonathan Brooks, I don't want to, you know, jump the shark on this one.

14:33I don't want to, like, overreact. But right now, we're just very optimistic.

14:38That was the quote from Canales, that he'll be available week one with Sordas.

14:42All of a sudden, our, you know, injury optimism, there it is.

14:46He was going to be healthy. All of a sudden, he played a few preseason snaps.

14:52And now he might not be available week one.

14:55Pacheco probably not so much actionable. Where are you on the Brooks thing?

14:59He's very polarizing. I've seen him go in the fifth or sixth round.

15:03I mean, now we have questions about week one.

15:06I'm kind of out on the Panthers, to be honest.

15:10Yeah, I don't think that's unfair. And real quick with Pacheco, I wasn't drafting him either.

15:15Anybody who's tempted to hear the quote from Dan Campbell about Jacob Saylors moving up, and oh, we're very comfortable with him as our RB2.

15:23I would be as well if I had Jameer Gibbs as my RB1.

15:27I don't think we should be reading into this to say that any RB2 is going to be worth much for fantasy in Detroit.

15:35With the Panthers, I would say Jonathan Brooks is still somebody that if he slips a couple of rounds, I think I'm still going to be okay.

15:44I know that it's concerning for somebody who gets a little bit of preseason action to now have this sort of red flag hanging over them.

15:53But I don't take this to mean that it might be like this all year.

15:58I understand if that is an interpretation that you want to take with it.

16:03I just think that the upside is still very much present with him.

16:07Now, Chuba Hubbard, I guess we should point out though, the reason he kind of lost his job last year was because he himself got injured.

16:16So if he looks really healthy, then maybe Chuba really is the guy that you would prefer there.

16:22I'd be interested to see what the gap in ADP ends up looking like by the end of this very week, frankly, with those two.

16:30Yeah, I don't think I want Chuba Hubbard. If Brooks falls, I'll consider him.

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19:45kind of team captain guy that they really like.

19:48And even if he's eating up a lot of the low-calorie work, he's still eating up a lot of it.

19:54I definitely would agree, high-value touches for a team I don't think very highly of.

19:59If, well, it's true that Brooks can secure the pass-catching role, then it could be a lot of work for him in PPR formats in the fourth quarter.

20:09I just, I don't know if it's this year maybe more than ever.

20:13There are certain teams I'm just kind of distancing myself from.

20:17You know, when you get to Sunday, there are teams that are like, yes, I have a player on this team that

20:24I think is going to go and score 28 points, almost getting off the bus, and then some teams are like, hoping

20:31they're going to get to 14 or 15. You're hoping they get off the bus at all.

20:37Yeah, right. Well, in Brooks' case, we're hoping he's on the bus.

20:41In the first place, and strapping on. But, you know, it really is the truth, and I always talk about trying not

20:48to be too cute about predicting injuries, but when we see them in front of us is when I really start to

20:55pump the brakes on the optimism I was talking about.

20:59All right, let's do some sleepers. We each have a sleeper at each position.

21:03This is really good. Because as we approach drafts, I think what happens, guys like Lloyd, guys like Brooks, that drafters might

21:11be thinking, I'm walking away with this guy. They go entirely too early, and you find yourself maybe short in a position

21:18or backpedaling at the end of drafts. And I think it's important to have that plan B or C.

21:24So I think this is going to be really good.

21:28Why don't you start us off with your quarterback?

21:31It's Sam Darnold. Yeah, Sam Darnold going outside the top 150 players.

21:35It does make sense to me. Like, I understand why.

21:38If you just looked at his fantasy points per week last year, it's not like you were thrilled every week to be

21:45starting Sam Darnold, but he certainly was effective for you overall.

21:49He was very effective for the Seahawks overall. But my thought currently with Sam Darnold is just this.

21:55What if the backfield in Seattle is weaker than we expect it to be?

21:59At least until Zach Charbonnet gets back, whenever that might be.

22:03And don't get me wrong, I like Jadarian Price.

22:06Yes, I really do. But he hasn't shown that he can be a workhorse.

22:11At least he didn't in college. Maybe a committee backfield leads to more of an emphasis on the passing game.

22:17And therefore, we have Sam Darnold, who last year was one of only six quarterbacks to throw for 4,000 yards.

22:24And he did that while ranking 15th in pass attempts.

22:27Now, Darnold had more passing yards than Bo Nix had last year on 135 fewer passing attempts.

22:33Nix is still being drafted pretty dang high, especially for a guy who is coming off a brutal ankle injury at the very end of the year.

22:42And so this rushing upside that we supposedly like for him, I just don't see.

22:47But he's going five rounds before Sam Darnold, who could be in a much more efficient offense.

22:52So I'm not going to say that Sam Darnold is going to be amazing for fantasy football.

22:58But I am saying he could easily hang with a lot of these quarterbacks that are going much earlier in the drafts.

23:05And I think you could do better to bolster the rest of your positions, your running backs, your wide receivers, whatever, if

23:13you just wait a little longer on quarterback and grab Sam.

23:16Yeah, you know, when I first saw this, I kind of scoffed.

23:20And I thought maybe you had gone a little off the rails.

23:24I was actually thinking, man, I thought there were more quarterbacks that we liked.

23:29And I went in thinking low volume. And that part was correct.

23:33They were bottom three in dropbacks per game. That was at 30.

23:37But everything after that really kind of came up Sam.

23:40He had six top ten finishes. He had three top five finishes.

23:44So volume, yeah. Yes, we like volume because volume helps to get there.

23:49But when you can be efficient and how do you boost efficiency?

23:53How about one of the best wide receivers in the world?

23:56I'm also surprised you didn't mention what the addition of Rasheed Shaheed could really do because he's a player I love in drafts.

24:04I mean, after pick 130, that's when I start thinking I'm just shooting for upside.

24:09Most of these guys are going to end up dropped or hurt or both.

24:13Give me Shaheed almost everywhere. I think he's going to play a full-time role on the opposite side of JSN.

24:20And, man, we've seen creativity from JSN moving in and out.

24:24Shaheed was also showing flashes of being able to win on routes that aren't just go routes.

24:29As a fantasy community, we really need to stop doing that.

24:33Like, he wins deep and he only wins deep.

24:36That's not the case. You win by design a lot of times.

24:40And Shaheed has absolutely popped on per route metrics and stuff.

24:44So, yeah, there's actually a pretty good explosive case to be made for the Seahawks.

24:49So, I'm actually loving that call. And I've started mixing Darnold into my, you know, best ball plans where you're thinking about

24:56the entire league or super flex plans where you're absolutely thinking about a second and third quarterback.

25:02He should one million percent be part of that QB2 discussion.

25:05I really love that. But let's be clear, John.

25:08Let's be clear. I took Sam Darnold because you took the guy that I really wanted to talk about here.

25:15Oh, okay. I didn't know. So, this is my backup plan, which I think is a good backup plan, but it's not as good as your plan A.

25:24Oh, I love that. So, let's call it our plan A.

25:28And making Darnold our plan B. I'm fine with signing on with that 100%.

25:32You know what? That's right. That's Malik Willis, right?

25:35We've all had the rebar Konami code stuff just repeated over and over because it's correct.

25:41Quarterbacks that run have an inherent and built-in floor, especially a guy like Willis who has shown efficiency passing as well.

25:48My note says, Jake, it feels like I'm taking crazy pills.

25:51We've drafted Justin Fields and Anthony Richardson in the top, like, 65 overall as a consensus.

25:57Now, Malik Willis, who, again, yeah, the weaponry's not as good.

26:00I don't care. I think he's better than both of those guys, in particular with the passing stuff.

26:06We're not, yes, putting the best EPA per drop back on Malik Willis would be nuts.

26:12But I don't think putting a league average passing play on a player that's shown us top flight passing play is crazy.

26:19I just, I love the rushing floor. I mean, I also wrote C.

26:23Baltimore week 17. Last year, he went 288-1-0, 960-2.

26:26I mean, he's putting up two separate stat lines at once from pick 130.

26:31These are all the same arguments we've been making for Justin Fields, for Anthony Richardson.

26:36And I'm all about Malik Willis. He's probably my most rostered quarterback, of course, hundreds of drafts.

26:41So, yeah, add on if I miss anything. I'm just, I'm over the move for this guy.

26:47I can't believe the price. For as sharp as the markets have gotten, I really think they've dropped the ball here.

26:54That's what I just wanted to emphasize. Maybe it's people trying to course correct too much from those other guys that you

27:01talked about because you get burned by Anthony Richardson.

27:04You get burned by Justin Fields in the long run.

27:08Yes, you do get burned. But remember the joy that you get from starting those guys every week?

27:14And it doesn't, yeah, you're right. It didn't matter if they were throwing very efficiently.

27:19But Malik Willis can throw downfield especially very efficiently.

27:22So you're getting the two best things that you want in a fantasy quarterback, which is rushing upside and the ability to just chuck it downfield successfully.

27:31Sign me up. Are you buying any of this bench risk?

27:34That's what I'm hearing from some of the fantasy football intellectual dark web that I'm not really buying.

27:40That's too much. And I think the Green Bay of the South kind of narrative there is getting overblown as well.

27:47You know, they pick up this guy who would have been cut, frankly.

27:51All due respect from the Packers. He gets traded to be the backup to Malik Willis.

27:57Listen, in preseason looked good, but it's the preseason and it was against a bad Cardinals defense where most of the guys

28:04he was throwing against got cut themselves. Like, let's pump the brakes.

28:08Malik Willis is going to be a starter for at least the first 14 weeks.

28:13Yeah, that's exactly where I am and where I've been.

28:16I'm not coming off that. My dad is getting ready to do his fantasy football draft and I told him, just totally wait on QB.

28:25Take Willis plus. Take two guys at the back end.

28:28And if you're worried about Willis up front and you want to see what you get, that's fine.

28:34He is the most clearest week one mainstream waiver wire headliner guy like ever.

28:39If he runs for two TDs week one, how did we miss that?

28:43Well, not all of us did. All right, Jake, that's the halftime one.

28:47So give me one second. I want to get into our sleeper running back wide receivers and tight ends at Ogo after 150 in just a second.

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32:01All right, we're back with the skill position players.

32:04I want you to lead us off. This one is really interesting, and the second I saw it, I realized if people

32:11like you are on this player, I'm a little too low.

32:15I've moved him up my ranks. It's the newest giant, Najee Harris.

32:19What do you got? John, I can't talk about Najee Harris without also talking about Cam Scadaboo, which is a big reason

32:26that I have Harris on this list. I wrote down just a quick list of things that Cam Scadaboo runs like, just

32:33so everybody knows where I'm coming from. Scadaboo runs like the juggernaut from the X-Men franchise.

32:39He runs like a toddler that just snuck a sip of a Red Bull.

32:43He runs like he's trying to wake up all the sandworms in the Dune movies.

32:48He runs like a Roomba that's gotten stuck in the corner of a room and is desperately trying to get out of it.

32:56He runs like that rat from Ratatouille is hiding under his helmet controlling him, but the rat also just did a bunch of HGH.

33:04My point, John, is that Cam Scadaboo is not a man who puts his health front and center, and I don't think

33:11that coming off of an especially gruesome injury, I don't think I can trust his style of play to hold up whatsoever.

33:18So I look at who they just added, Najee Harris.

33:22I think people are down on Harris because a little bit of the lost year.

33:27It's just a little bit of that out of sight, out of mind.

33:31Bad pun, I guess, for the Najee Harris eye thing, but he is maybe not the most exciting running back.

33:38But he is a high-quality, reliable running back that can do all the things that you just need a starting running back to do.

33:46Capable pass catcher? Yes. Good pass blocker? Yes. Can get you solid yards after contact?

33:51Yes. Now, he's coming off of his own Achilles injury, but he did look pretty solid in the preseason.

33:57I thought it didn't look like somebody coming off of an Achilles injury.

34:01So instead of drafting Scadaboo in the fourth round, which is crazy, crazy ADP to me, I'm waiting to pick up Najee in the very last round.

34:10You don't have to start him in week one.

34:13I do want to be clear about that. Don't feel like you got to force this guy into your lineup right away,

34:20but see what the snap share looks like early on.

34:24Compare his efficiency with Scadaboo's. If Najee comes out ahead in any meaningful way, you've got yourself a bona fide flex play, at least for pennies.

34:32Yeah, I'm curious how that's going to shake out.

34:35Scadaboo has really profiled as a three down back.

34:38You know, he's good between the tackles. He's also a good route runner and pass catcher.

34:44But like you mentioned, it's very hard. I was muted and kind of laughing and snorting through some of that.

34:50But it's true, yeah, I think about the juggernaut thing and we love it sometimes.

34:55It's not always great. We knew it going in.

34:58This could lead to an injury and that's exactly what you got.

35:02So I think having the backup plan behind that, regardless of what you think of Scadaboo, I think given all these things

35:10we know about him, we should be viewing that backfield as vulnerable.

35:13And that's the thing I like to, you know, target first.

35:17I was going through the Nazi Harris advance stuff from last year.

35:21I think we got something like 41 snaps, which of course is not great.

35:26But I did find one thing that was interesting.

35:29And even though the yards per attempt were really low at 4-1, though that was what Scadaboo had also, his yards after contact was still excellent.

35:37And that's always been a thing for him, excellent.

35:40And now if you're pitching me, a guy that's going to be in the right spot is just better.

35:47Right, Nazio is never this great explosive back. There's something to knowing where to stand.

35:52That's how I joke about just following all the assignments, understanding the assignments, and executing the playbook the way that they need to do it.

36:00We don't need, yes, we love 18-yard runs. But not if it's going to be minus 6, minus 6, minus 8, and you're throwing off the drive.

36:09Sometimes it's just three in the cloud of dust over and over.

36:13And you mentioned protection, keeping Dart upright should, would, and must be number one priority for this team.

36:19Because without him, they might go winless, right? It looks really bad there without him.

36:24So I actually like the Harris thing. I moved him up into my plan, as I mentioned.

36:29Mine, I think, is a little more, well, he's quite a bit more expensive.

36:34It's Dylan Samson with the Browns. I was thinking more of, outside of 150, last resort, are there any points, fantasy points, to be had?

36:42Hopefully there's some argumentative points to be had also.

36:45Dylan Samson, of all running backs that earned over 40 targets, he was number one in both target per outrun 28% and yards per outrun 1.9.

36:54The book on Samson, first of all, those are good wide receiver numbers.

36:58Now, you know, the volume stuff is off, but he has shown to build off the reputation, now you would know better

37:06than me, as you're much more plugged into the college stuff, that Samson was going to be a really good pass catcher.

37:13And for a lot of teams, he might have been their running back one.

37:18He just happened to go in the same draft as Judkins, who, to me, is profiling more, almost like, Nick Chubb-esque.

37:25Fantastic runner. Fantastic runner. Almost as good as they get.

37:28He can handle a pure workload. He's awesome. But, with a really good pass catcher behind you, on a team that's projected

37:35to be, like, the worst in the league, could get a lot of negative game scripts.

37:41What do you think about Dylan Samson in PBR?

37:43I think he's a sneaky potential, like, flex start, right?

37:47You wouldn't be thinking about starting the Browns backup.

37:50I mean, I don't know if you want to start the Browns at all.

37:54But Browns backup running back. He could be, like, an eight fantasy point a game guy.

38:00Am I stretching that? What do you think? No, I think it's a good call because I remember hyping up Samson just

38:07a little bit last year, thinking the same thing.

38:10This is a bad offense. I want the guy who's going to be in a trailing situation more often than not, who would be catching these passes.

38:19And we got to see it for, like, one game last year with Samson.

38:24There's one game, I think he had, like, seven to eight targets, something like that, just about as many receptions.

38:30It was a perfect shining example of exactly what you're talking about.

38:34It doesn't have to look good. Maybe just don't watch the games that he's actually playing in.

38:40Just take the fantasy points without having to put yourself through seeing how the fantasy points are accrued.

38:46But I think the only thing is that they did add Casey Concepcion, who might be a little bit more of that kind of schemed.

38:54I don't want to say gadgety because he's so much more than that as a wide receiver.

39:00But he could eat into that just a little bit.

39:03But I still think I would so much rather take the flyer on Samson than invest early draft capital on Quinshawn Judkins, for sure.

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42:16Yeah, that's a great call, which puts both of us at odds with these fourth round running backs, which means you better

42:23have your answers either before or after, right? That's kind of been the main sticking point for a lot of people.

42:30So yeah, I'm just, you know, thinking about Samson more as a flex or maybe a guy come by weeks if Cleveland,

42:37who knows where their injuries are going to fall.

42:40And again, that game you mentioned, remember, Judkins didn't play week one, and Samson got 20 touches, and he caught eight balls.

42:47So there is some contingency upside also there. The Browns are probably going to be double-digit underdogs quite a few times this

42:55year, and that's a good spot to target. You know, a guy that, again, could easily catch six passes.

43:01Might not be pretty, like you're saying. You're not going to want to watch it.

43:06It won't be in red zone, but, you know, fantasy points all the same.

43:11Now, next up, this one's good. Don't break my heart, Jake, my achy, breaky heart.

43:16It's Billy Ray Cyrus Allen, and I'm half joking because, you know, I just take, I'm very transparent.

43:22I'm out there. I'm taking my L's. I wrote him up as part of a bold prediction piece.

43:28Then I got trolled this morning that he got cut.

43:31It turns out that was not true. So I'm back.

43:34We're back in the Cyrus Allen business. Sell us on the, you know, Chiefs kind of rookie that's kind of popped out of nowhere.

43:42Yeah, we got, we got AI slopped on, on a rumor that was untrue, thankfully, because it would have broken my heart,

43:50John, if Cyrus Allen truly did get cut. I was shocked.

43:53I was shocked. It would, it would have, it would have hurt because I've been watching, and it wouldn't make sense, frankly,

44:00because I've been watching this guy all off season long, just continue to build true rapport with Patrick Mahomes.

44:07I know that's the thing that gets bandied about a lot during the off season with rookie wide receivers.

44:13And, oh, we saw one catch, you know, slowed down on a social media reel.

44:18And so now that guy is a trustworthy wide receiver.

44:21It's not often the case, but it really does feel true in this situation because Patrick Mahomes is saying it, number one,

44:29that he is a very trustworthy wide receiver, but he's showing it consistently at camp and in preseason.

44:35He looks to be as in the hunt for wide receiver through, I don't know, let's say wide receiver two or three

44:42right now for the Chiefs, just depending on what shakes out with the ambiguity on the receiving depth chart.

44:48Not that Rasheed Rice is going to get suspended or anything, but we've talked about him before and how it's, it's maybe

44:56always just waiting on another thing with Rasheed Rice, but also Xavier Worthy.

45:00We don't know that he's really proven himself to be that consistent wide receiver two.

45:05So I would, again, like I said with Najee Harris, if you don't want to start Cyrus Allen week one, I get it.

45:12I don't either, but I do want to draft him and watch what his snap count is those first couple of weeks.

45:20And then I want to see what he does with those snaps.

45:24How many targets per route run is he is like really watch him.

45:28Don't just look at the box score and see, is he the first read, second read for Patrick Mahomes if you start

45:35to see those things on any significant amount of plays, I get real comfortable putting him into my lineup after that, at least as a flex play.

45:44And so, and if he doesn't, and if it really looks like it is just hype and we got hyped again, cut him, move on.

45:53Don't worry about it, but I want that upside.

45:56Man, you just gave me the title for this, right?

45:59And it's next week's waiver wire today, right? These are the players that you know, you're not going to, you do not

46:06want to start week one, but you understand how we are going to react if we even get, again, doesn't even need production.

46:14I'd like to add one thing for Allen that I'm going to be looking for in particular, and it's deployment in two wide receiver sets.

46:22I mean, I wrote, okay, so I wrote, bear case for Allen.

46:26He's a fifth rounder that never topped 750 yards in college football.

46:30I immediately don't care about any of that when not only are we talking about the continuity you're referring to, but with a superstar quarterback.

46:38When you get that, the guy, right, those quarterbacks that matter, the quarterbacks, there's only a few of them.

46:45When they matter and dictate who's playing, you want to be on that list of guys.

46:50That matters to me. The bull case, all the stuff you mentioned, plus I have, Worthy is fragile, Kelsey is ancient, and Rice looks terrible.

46:58He already could not win off the line against press man coverage in the first place.

47:04If you're going to line him out a lot wide, not at 100%, I think he's going to be exposed immediately.

47:11Will the Chiefs move to a lot of three wide sets?

47:14Will Rice be that guy in the, on the outside, I should say?

47:19So it's deployment and it's the type of deployment for Allen.

47:22Dude, if you catch on to the Patrick Mahomes, like, you could be talking about his number one wide receiver here.

47:29I don't want to put the carpet before the horse, but I've been, I had about a 165 price tag on Allen

47:36right now and all my best bull drafts going on.

47:40If I'm at pick 160, even 165, and Allen is floating out there, I'm snatching him up because I think that's a perfect compliment.

47:48It's how you win these games. This is a huge upside play and in redraft, even if it's a small loss and

47:55a big win play, I love that. My play is significantly more boring than yours.

48:00Jake, I mean, yours is rocky road, there's chocolate covered, peanut butter filled pretzels in there.

48:05Mine is just vanilla. I like to think it's the good vanilla, like the vanilla bean vanilla, not the one that comes in the carton.

48:14That's all like icy and crystallized. It's Trey Tucker for the Raiders.

48:18I just think we're getting the wide receiver one on, even if it's a bad team, but I think he's pretty much definitively the one.

48:26He ran 580 routes last year for crying out loud.

48:29He led all wide receivers on the Raiders in routes, targets, receptions, yards, and TDs.

48:34He was easily their best play action option, which I think works with his game.

48:39He's kind of a technician out there, and when you have a good play action game, cough, cough, Clint Kubiak, cough, cough,

48:47last year, what we saw with Donald and JSN.

48:49I'm not going to say Trey Tucker is this year's JSN.

48:53He's not. But in even a team move version of that role, meaning if they're just able to execute that play, he should be the beneficiary.

49:02We've seen it happen in that system time after time after time again, and you're just not overpaying for it.

49:08You can get Tucker in the 160s, maybe it's 150 right now, I'm partially to blame for that, but he's pretty clearly,

49:16again, the camp buzz is huge, they all seem to love him, there's rapport with the quarterbacks and the coaches, so yeah,

49:23I'm going with Trey Tucker, he's the guy over at Naylor for me who I've kind of bailed on.

49:29Talk to us about the Raider wide receiver core in general.

49:33Do I have to, John? Are you forcing me to do this right now?

49:38You know, actually somebody that asked me, I was doing these mailbags, and somebody in the Fantasy Life Discord community had asked

49:45me this exact thing about what do I think about the wide receivers for the Raiders, and I said that I think

49:52they will all do their roles as compliments to the two top receivers being Brock Bowers and Michael Mayer, I think they

50:00will do their complimentary roles very well. I had a hard time picking one.

50:04You make a very good case for Trey Tucker though.

50:07I didn't want to pick one because Jalen Naylor is the new guy.

50:12We didn't really get to see him as a starting wide receiver except for when Jordan Addison was out, but he looked

50:19good when Jordan Addison was out, but I think you make the right call for Trey Tucker which was the Kubiak stuff,

50:26but also what did we see last year and what did they do with it last year?

50:32He was good. When we're drafting wide receivers in this range, you just got to look for opportunities and he certainly got it.

50:40Yeah, you know, he also had a monster game and it's weird to like, I'm like a, you know, a fake quant

50:47if anything and never referring to the smaller samples, but, you know, week three last year, he went eight 145 and three.

50:54It's crazy. Yeah, that's, you know, he was the number two overall wide out that week.

51:00Like, not a lot of players can lay claim to that.

51:03You know, a few, like a few of those things.

51:07Those are all things that we're looking for. That's the ability to tie together, you know, volume with efficiency and long touchdowns,

51:14which are, you know, again, how you win this game.

51:17So, I would not be surprised if Tucker ends up having a little bit of a breakout season.

51:23I think it's going to depend on the gente health and also you mentioned the mayor pick.

51:29Let's move right into tight ends. I think we should make our, he's got to be our honorary choice.

51:35Neither one of us picked mayor. Talk to us about your selection or your favorite tight end after pick 150.

51:42To be fair, if Greg Dalsich was going inside of the top 150, I would love to grab Michael Mayer, but Greg

51:49Dalsich, despite my best efforts, still going very far outside of the top 150.

51:54And my rationale with him all off season has just been how many tight ends realistically have a shot at being their team's top target.

52:02And now how many of those guys are available after round 10?

52:06It's a very tiny amount. And I know the argument against Dalsich is just like he gets hurt a lot.

52:13Okay, here's my solution for that. Don't play him in the weeks that he's hurt, but in his healthy weeks, he could be absolutely fantastic in this offense.

52:22You talked about it with Malik Willis, so I won't harp on it, but there's not a ton of reliable pass catchers here.

52:30I don't know that there's any reliable ones. There's guys I have hope for.

52:34I like Chris Bell, the rookie, but he's coming into the season a little bit injured.

52:39His hype is ramping up a little bit, but I think it could be a slow start for him.

52:46But we've got Dalsich over here. His ADP is in the dirt.

52:50Meanwhile, some stats on Dalsich from last year, just a couple.

52:53These are my favorites. He was eighth in targets per route run among all qualified tight ends.

52:59So guys who ran at least like a hundred routes, basically.

53:03He was eighth. He was third in yards per target among tight ends.

53:07Fifteenth overall, all pass catchers, yards per target. And he was second in yards after the catch per reception, again, among qualified

53:14tight ends behind only my true love, Tucker Craft.

53:17So if I can scoop this dude up, this is somebody that we've been throwing out, John, often as like, you draft

53:25Tucker Craft or you draft George Kittle early, but you're worried about the injury stuff, so you better make sure you have a plan B.

53:33Here is your plan B at tight end, Greg Dulcich, I would say.

53:37Yeah, I love those players as a pairing. I think both of the prices are really fair.

53:43I think they both fit the same archetype of player that is a winning fantasy tight end.

53:48Again, my notes very much mirror yours. I put potential to be at least the second option.

53:54Yes. Can this player win in the secondary? Yes.

53:57Have they shown to be efficient? Clearly, yes. I had your yards after catch that, which is awesome.

54:03We love that in tight ends. That's what we're looking for.

54:07He was also number seven in fantasy points per route.

54:10I mean, that's the sample. That's it. All the routes.

54:13When he's on the field, he is producing. I get there's some trepidation with the Dolphins and how it's going to be run.

54:21I have been asking people to expand their minds a little bit.

54:25Maybe we're just giving the ball to the best players.

54:28This offense runs through Malik Willis and A-Chan, which it should, with a little bit of stretching from Bell if he's out

54:36there, with Dolcich doing the underneath stuff that he's always done.

54:39For me, it's a little bit clearer than everyone else is making it like, this is a disaster, run for the hills,

54:47this can't work, they're going to be terrible. Well, the offense I just described would be awesome down 21 points, because that's

54:54how you rack up PPR points if you're down against preventative too high shells.

54:59I'd be loving that all day. Those are the games where Dolcich is going to catch seven balls.

55:04It might be seven for 48. We're going to take 11 points from that price point, ADP-wise, and move on.

55:11I'm with you. I drafted a ton of Dolcich.

55:14I want to pick your brain just really quick for one thing and ask you, if my reaction is an over reaction,

55:21and it was the rookie that they just brought in.

55:25I don't know anything about this Justin Jolly. He got cut, right?

55:29He just got drafted and immediately kind of turned around and cut, if I'm not mistaken.

55:34From the Broncos, it sounded like his archetype was kind of similar, and I'm hearing some people say like, oh, that's it

55:41for the Dolcich second half, like, you know, we took the rookie run out, backfilling the second half of the season.

55:48What do you think? I don't really know anything about him.

55:52I don't want to be scared, but I don't love Dolcich that much that I'm still like smashing a button from.

55:59So I've been moving away to my pick, not to bury the lead.

56:03Do you know anything about Jolly? Is he worth rostering?

56:07Is he worth getting away from Dolcich for the questions?

56:10Yeah, Jolly, I believe a fifth round pick by Denver last year.

56:14It was somebody that I was putting as like a dynasty stash.

56:18This year, that was right. He was drafted. Time has gotten away from you already, John.

56:23It's okay, I got sloppy. Jolly, this is somebody that I was pointing out as like a dynasty deep stash.

56:30Because it's, I take it more, this is Sean Payton's never-ending obsession with trying to find this joker that he just can't stop himself.

56:38And this was supposed to be his new hybrid of all the things you can use him in all the scenarios.

56:45And I just took this to mean Sean Payton's taking his L earlier than usual.

56:50Like he did last year with Evan Ingram, it took a little bit longer.

56:54And then he did it with RJ Harvey and it took a little bit longer.

56:59I think he's just cutting his losses earlier because I don't know, maybe he didn't have the patience to see this thing through.

57:07I'm not worried about Greg Dulcich from where I'm drafting him.

57:11Because even if Justin Jolly does manage to become the tight end by the end of the year, which I don't think will happen for the record.

57:20But even if he does, I get what, eight weeks of Greg Dulcich doing his thing for rock bottom prices?

57:26I'll take it. Yeah, again, there's an explosive upside here that I don't think you get with the catch and fall tight

57:33ends, which I'm generally just advising people against. You could stream that.

57:37We've seen the studies done with streaming QBs and streaming tight ends.

57:41You could find that kind of minimalist production or whatever.

57:45All right, the player that I have shifted to may be harder than any player.

57:50Again, as prices shift, this player has not. It's Rams tight end Colby Parkinson.

57:54I mean, this is another one. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

57:59Parkinson missed like a chunk of the beginning of last season.

58:02So then, I don't know, you want to give him some grace with time to kind of hit the ground running and

58:10then hit the ground running he did. How about Parkinson ended up with more end zone targets than some guy named Puka Nakua in fewer games.

58:18So like, right off the bat, that's pretty good.

58:21Rams are projected to score through the roof again.

58:24Nakua also has some issues going on right now.

58:27There's like injury stuff, there's off the field stuff, these things, that chapter is not closed yet.

58:33I mean, enough so that I'm worried at the fourth overall pick.

58:37So anywhere that I could try and swim in that week, I'm interested.

58:41But regardless, all this happened with the Rams pretty much healthy.

58:45So this is after week nine when he really kind of hit his stride and was playing more kind of full time.

58:52Also remember the Rams very much into this multiple tight end set stuff.

58:56Of all 35 tight ends with 25 targets after week nine, so I'm not really cherry picking.

59:02He was sixth in points, seven in points per game, second in points per target, first in points per route, sixth in

59:09targets per route, fifth in yards after the catch per reception that we love, fifth in routes per first down, that was under 10, which is elite, elite.

59:19He was also tied for first with 20 yard touchdowns and second in red zone targets.

59:24He had 17 red zone targets after week nine on a ridiculously prolific offense that loves to use the tight end.

59:31I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Jake, for me to feel like Kobe Parkinson should, could, and would be a top

59:38seven tight end doesn't feel like a bold prediction.

59:41He's going off the boards as tight end 31 or 35.

59:45He's not even part of people's draft plans. I don't know, man, I've been all about that Parkinson's life, especially because you

59:52don't have to draft him as your tight end one.

59:56You could draft him as a last round pick.

59:58And to me, he feels like that next week's wave of wire tight end, if he goes out and catches two scores,

60:06as he's known to do, I think he's going to be the big ad.

60:10How much of the shark have I jumped? I know I've overblown it, but how far have I gone?

60:17I think everybody's hesitation with this is very, very simple, John.

60:20You look at the Rams roster and it's basically all tight ends.

60:24Like I did that Scott Fishbowl charity draft earlier this offseason.

60:28I drafted 20 tight ends for charity and as a bit, the Rams do this as part of their actual game winning process.

60:36So I think you just see that and you go, I don't want to mess with it.

60:41And people like Terrence Ferguson as kind of a breakout guy because he's kind of a wide receiver-ish dude.

60:48And I get that, but I just think you make great points.

60:52Only thing I would add is Devontae Adams as much as I love him, he can't possibly stay that guy forever who's

60:59going to get all of the end zone targets basically for the wide receivers and maybe they even put more on Colby

61:06Parkinson this year if he takes a step back.

61:09So many high value touches on a team that creates them at higher frequency than anybody else.

61:15We talk about the mind meld with the superstar quarterback.

61:18I mean, I'm honestly, this is one pick that it's at this point of draft season where most of the value has

61:25been sucked out of the entire board. This is one of the picks that just kind of survives settling, you know, the

61:33dust settling where you know you can get him and pick 215 or later.

61:37There you kind of, it's almost like a baseball team when you have a great closer, or you shorten the game.

61:44I feel like I'm shortening the draft because I'm just so willing to have Parkinson as my tight end three.

61:51I feel like he could be a tight end one.

61:54So that was really awesome. Thank you for being here for my Colby Parkinson struggle session.

62:00Anytime. Anytime. Can you believe that was it? So that's it everybody for the offseason.

62:05We'll be here with week one. It's me riding solo from Jake and John.

62:09We really do appreciate the support and feedback. Everyone, we'll see you.

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