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0:15What's up, everyone? We are back in black. Fantasy Football Weekly, week four edition.
0:19Game by game with your friends, Jake Trowbridge and yours truly, John Laghezza.
0:23Mr. Jake, how are you doing? Another week in the books, man.
0:27It is really happening fast, at least on my end.
0:31It's a quarter of the way through like the regular fantasy season, I guess.
0:35Technically, three to four weeks, that's about a quarter of the way through the regular fantasy season.
0:41And I wasn't prepared for it to be even a week through the fantasy season right now.
0:46It just feels like there's, you know, time has never been a thing that's really added up for me since like lockdown years.
0:54But this just really shows that you have to stay on top of the ball because stuff gets away from you fast.
1:01Yeah. One of the things I love so much about this show is it helps me remember what day of the week it is.
1:09Yeah. It's Friday for us now. Right. As of recording, it's Friday.
1:12In case you haven't seen, Jake has some dynasty work over on FL, Matthew Barry's Fantasy Life.
1:18And I just submitted my weekly novella. I do a game by game breakdown.
1:23Also, for those of you who still like to read, sneak in a couple of nugs.
1:28And you know what, Jake? This work ain't going to get done on its own.
1:33What do you say we rip the court? Let's start it up.
1:37This one, I believe, is across the pond. In merry old England, the Indianapolis Colts are on the road against the Commanders, who are also on the road.
1:46Colts three and a half point favorites, 47 point game total.
1:49That kind of indifferent line, if you ask me, right?
1:52That kind of milquetoast line. Colts and Commanders. Man, Colts showed a little bit of life against, you know, the Chiefs at one point.
2:00Commanders just famously upset the Seahawks, burning the few remaining survivor tickets that I had.
2:05Mariota definitely acquitted himself well. And I think that was the main takeaway.
2:09I actually said that, that relief game he came in after Daniels went down against the Eagles, that he looked pretty good.
2:17I just don't know if it's going to be enough.
2:20But this Colts defense has really been horrendous. I just feel like they have the more balanced and complete offense.
2:26Also, Josh Downs making his ascendance. What do you like in this one, Colts and Commanders?
2:32Going to have to start calling him Josh Ups pretty soon.
2:35That's Pun City population us right now. I think the big things for this game, though, it's kind of a two-parter.
2:42The London game itself tends to be a little bit lower scoring.
2:46Like London games don't maybe have the same reputation as Thursday night football.
2:50Thursday night football, people seem to think, is always like really low scoring.
2:54And it's kind of not, actually. It just depends on the matchups.
2:58London always seems to be low scoring regardless of the matchups.
3:02But also, there are some injuries that I think will bring some of these totals down.
3:07Like Terry McLaurin is nursing a hamstring injury that just popped up, which you never like to see late in the week.
3:14That has him questionable. Rashad White's going to be out.
3:17So it's how much can Marcus Mariota do potentially with Stefan Diggs, which we didn't really see last week.
3:24You know, Diggs was kind of the second man, which made sense because Mariota did have all of last year or a
3:31good portion of last year to throw to McLaurin.
3:34And McLaurin actually looked better with Mariota in the games than with Daniels in the games for fantasy purposes, at least.
3:40So I'm hoping that McLaurin does play even though he's going to get the sauce Gardner treatment probably.
3:46And I do feel bad for that. If Terry McLaurin sits, I mean, pity Trelon Burks or whoever it is that has to go up against him.
3:55You don't even mess with starting him. Stefan Diggs, though, should have, I think, a pretty big day regardless.
4:01Because you're right. The Colts defense, it's nothing to be afraid of for us.
4:06So I actually think if McLaurin is out, and maybe even if McLaurin is in, Antonio Williams deserves some serious consideration in
4:13your lineups if you have him, John. Yeah. Commander's targetry was a little frustrating.
4:17You know, we want two main pass catchers, maybe three routes split three ways, let's say.
4:23Yeah. And with Mariota, and again, every time you get a new QB, you kind of shake up the etch-a-sketch.
4:29Not only was it Williams, but Deami Brown also, he didn't just get split work.
4:34They were all earning targets. Going to be a little frustrating, I think.
4:38I'm actually help for fantasy purposes. Maybe if McLaurin is limited, again, to boost Diggs.
4:43The rest of them, I might stay away. Maybe Williams, I think it's viable, but it's definitely going to be frustrating if
4:50you see him on the sideline and Deami Brown soaking up targets.
4:54Not exactly what we want to see as fantasy managers.
4:57Again, I'm going to kind of lean towards the Colts here again.
5:01The Washington defense has been good against the run, but they've also kind of struggled to tackle, and JT is really tough.
5:09So I think I'm going to try and ride the wave with the Colts.
5:13Maybe that defense does kind of turn things around a bit, but I don't know if it's the international thing, if it's a 9.30 early start.
5:22Eastern, I'm not a huge fan of these games.
5:24I generally try and avoid them. I'm going to really avoid it, unless I need to.
5:30Next up, we've got Tennessee Titans. Yikes, man, this team is terrible.
5:34They lost to the Jameis Winston Giants. They're on the road against the Baltimore Ravens.
5:38This is the biggest spread on the board. Ravens right now favored by 11.5.
5:43That total is only 43.5, which gives you an idea how low the expectations for the Titans are.
5:49They have such a low total with so many points scored.
5:52Well, newsflash, we're expecting them from Baltimore, who will be returning.
5:56Zay Flowers, who right now is kind of breaking fantasy football.
6:00Also a little bit unusual when there's this guy named Jackson Smith Njigba doing his thing.
6:05Now, Flowers hasn't really run the routes. He's only, I mean, he really hasn't run a ton of routes at all.
6:12But he's at a 48% target per route rate and over 9.25 yards per route.
6:16Yeah, that's pretty good, Jake. So I think Baltimore is keeping it really consolidated.
6:21I've been getting away from Mark Andrews, who looks really kind of slow and uninvolved.
6:26Right now, it's Lamar. It's Derek Henry. It's Zay Flowers.
6:29That feels really good. I do not want anything to do with any Titans.
6:34I know Cardinal Tate got a couple of looks, and Wilde Robinson has gotten some targets.
6:39I've been advising readers to try and treat this as like a quote-unquote sell high and get whatever you can.
6:45Because right now, I'm seeing systemic rot with Tennessee.
6:48Cam Ward, not very good. Do you think I missed anything?
6:52Sometimes I feel like the lines are making it kind of obvious for us.
6:56Jake, Titans and Ravens. I mean, I don't know if you missed anything, John.
7:01I do want to point out, if anybody was worried about Lamar Jackson, it does look like he's going to be good to go.
7:09I kind of felt like that was a foregone conclusion, but it's now cemented.
7:13That's great. But it does feel like whatever fantasy points we're going to get out of the Ravens in this game, it's
7:21going to be like, what have they done in the first half?
7:24Because I don't know if they'll need to complete a pass in the second half against this atrocious Titans team.
7:31So don't be scared to start anybody, of course.
7:34But also don't expect the moon, because this isn't probably going to be the most competitive matchup.
7:39Now, Derek Henry might go ahead and score three touchdowns this week, all in the second half.
7:45And what a delight to just see him doing his thing.
7:48But I did want to point something out, because this stat really spoke to me about Zay Flowers, which is every target
7:56that he's seen this year basically got a first down or a touchdown.
8:00How does, I don't even know how that happens.
8:03That's just outrageous. But second stat that tells you how bad the Titans are for real life and kind of for starting
8:10guys against them in fantasy, the Titans have given up the eighth fewest passing yards in the league.
8:16And it ain't because they're a shutdown defense, John.
8:19It's because of how bad they are as a unit.
8:22So, yeah, start your guys, but don't feel like you're going to get crazy numbers.
8:27Now, let me ask you one time, because we want to try and deliver as much actionable info as possible.
8:33A lot of running backs are going down. And in these situations, sometimes the backup running back on the favorite could get some love.
8:41It's funny, if the Titans were like a representative offense, we wouldn't be looking to run against them.
8:47With Jeffrey Simmons there, they've actually been one of the better defenses in terms of yards per rush, 3.6.
8:53Yards up to contact per rush, below 2.5. They haven't allowed a 20-yard rush, an explosive rush rate below 5.
9:00However, they're still like bottom three in rushes allowed, right?
9:03Attempts are not really something that's allowed because it's the other team.
9:07But game scripts do dictate that. I wonder, can we give out Justice Hill as like a desperation add?
9:13He's had 5 for 33 against Dallas, and that was in a tight game script.
9:18We haven't really seen Baltimore kind of blow anybody out yet.
9:21Do you think Hill, because again, there's a lot, there's quite a bit of desperation.
9:26We're going to be talking about some hurt running backs.
9:30I actually added him to the very back end of deeper, those first come, first serve ads.
9:35Do you think Hill might get, I don't know, 8 or 10 touches?
9:39Maybe sneak into the end zone and save the day for people desperate at RB2?
9:44Or should we just move on? And then I was curious, if you really get to the Titans, do we want any,
9:51are there any Titans you're willing to start? Well, first of all, with Justice Hill, he shouldn't be on waivers, like at all.
9:59I don't think he should certainly be rostered. And this is the type of game where it feels like if he's going
10:06to do something to really juice up your lineup, this is probably the one just based on game script.
10:12So if you're asking like, would I rather start Ollie Gordon, who is a big waiver wire ad and who we'll talk
10:19about later, or Justice Hill, I actually think I'd rather start Justice Hill.
10:24So if that gives you some sense of what the overall landscape is also versus what this game is going to be, there you go.
10:32But I mean, Cardinal Tate, Wondell Robinson, Tony Pollard, if you got to flex these guys, it's fine.
10:38It's fine. There should be plenty of garbage time for one or a couple of them to do something for your team.
10:45But it's just not the kind of game where you go, ah, I can pick out that guy as doing something special.
10:52Yeah, it's true. I mean, in fantasy, we need the bad teams to do their part.
10:57And the older I get and the further we get into this thing of ours, the more I really appreciate the Cardinals.
11:04You know, I really do appreciate the Cardinals. Dude, they're going out there and they are going down swinging.
11:10They're going to give even the good teams four quarters worth of reason to punch back.
11:16You nailed the first half thing. You still have to start your Baltimore studs, but it really takes away from some of the ceiling.
11:23I have a really dank stat later on. I'm going to get you.
11:28That's in that same vein. So yeah, it's your studly Ravens.
11:31You're avoiding your Titans as always until something changes.
11:34And man, if you're actually watching the Titans, Pollard has looked good.
11:38He's broken long runs. He's been shifty and evasive, but without the opportunity of the game script, there's just not enough there
11:45to sink your teeth into for fantasy. Let's go, Titans.
11:48Get it together. They could be a real... This could be an interesting team, but right now it's just one half.
11:55Poke him with his pick. Get him to do something.
11:58It's so brutal. Watching him is so brutal. You could tell even in like catch-up time, the Titans will be in third and long and running the ball.
12:08And you're like, that is such a killer. That's just the opposite of what you want.
12:13It feels like a red flag. All right. This one is maybe more interesting to me than the spreadsheets might have us believe.
12:20The Patriots at one and two, I mean, and just nightmare fuel right now for Patriots fans.
12:26They're on the road, northern New York. No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.
12:31Bills, just six and a half point favorites. Jake, why don't you start this one?
12:36Because to me, that was the number that really stuck out.
12:39I know this is a fantasy show, but there is a lot of overlap.
12:44Vegas is very sharp, and we should be using them as a kind of light post.
12:49So did that give a red flag like Buffalo looks unbeatable, Patriots look kind of terrible.
12:54Do you think maybe this one is just that close?
12:58Or the books sometimes do get it wrong. What do you think?
13:02Yeah, I don't know how watching these two teams over the last three weeks, it came to that, I guess, because I
13:09just strictly from the eye test and from the stats test, frankly, I look at the Patriots and I put Drake May
13:16in the exact same situation that I had Justin Herbert in last week.
13:20Not just that he's playing the Bills, but it's that if he cannot produce in this, which Vegas suggests should be at least having some fireworks.
13:29If Drake May can't produce in this, then how do you feel comfortable starting him again, period, after this?
13:35And like, he has to ride your bench if he can't do it this week.
13:40He's what QB 32 or something outrageous on the year right now.
13:43So he should have to throw the ball a ton to keep up with Josh Allen.
13:49But again, you can even AJ Brown coming back, I don't think is going to absolve Drake May of seeing the bench if he fails this time.
13:57But I think the running back situation is even crazier to try to decipher right now for the Patriots.
14:04I don't know what Mike Rabel is doing with Ramondre versus Travion.
14:08That usage last week, 10 touches for Ramondre, nine for Travion.
14:11I don't know if there's some lingering punishment from the fumble for Ramondre in the previous week, which Rabel didn't have a tendency to do.
14:19He didn't tend to carry over punishment into the next game.
14:23But I don't know how you explain Ramondre snaps just going down so much, his routes going down so much from the first two weeks.
14:31And so I don't love either of those guys.
14:34And then the pass catchers for the Patriots, it's like, I get the allure of this game.
14:39And obviously you start everybody on the bill side that you have ever started in the past.
14:45But, you know, Romeo Dobbs, Matt Collins, these guys are both like Jameson William types for fantasy were one week.
14:51They're going to do great, but they're both that guy.
14:55And so I can't even trust them on a week to week basis.
14:59I'm trying to tell myself this New England wave is coming again in May has looked really bad, but sometimes the errors
15:06are so bad that if you just, it's going to sound terrible.
15:10If you just get rid of the errors, like it'd actually be all right.
15:15I mean, and it's sacks and picks between the turnovers and the sacks.
15:19It's been completely debilitating. And I think that's what I mean.
15:22The errors are so critical that they just blow up the whole machine.
15:27And if he's just a little more careful, maybe we see a semblance of the offense that we wanted last year, though.
15:34You're not really going to find it in the pass catching room, getting tons of questions all week, every week.
15:40You know, should we go after Matt Collins? That's been the name I've been mentioning.
15:45He's putting up real receiver numbers, 22% target per route over two yards per route, just under 10 yards per target, but
15:52just over 14 routes per first down. But there's just no yak to speak of.
15:57And there's no high value work because the Patriots are not sniffing the end zone.
16:02Dubs, the second you get excited, it kind of goes south.
16:06The volume hasn't really been there. He doesn't really look sharp.
16:09I think this team archetypically or archetypally needs a field stretcher, right?
16:13It was booty. Then it was Brown. That was very short-lived.
16:17And now they're without one. And I think maybe that's a big part of it.
16:21You mentioned the running backs. Since they're the only two backs touching the ball, which, by the way, very strange.
16:28Patriots got killed last week. Travion had just one catch.
16:31I mean, I don't know. Again, I just don't understand stylistically what's going on with this team at all.
16:37But they're going to have to make it happen.
16:40I know I wrote at the end of my kind of summary was in my write-up that it wasn't really in the analytics.
16:48It's not really on the spreadsheet or in the game field.
16:51But I have a feeling that maybe New England kind of wins this one to turn their season around.
16:58That or I'm just hoping. Because if not, it's really a wrap.
17:01Buffalo did look very human last week. To Buffalo, are you starting anybody outside the big names?
17:07It's obviously Allen. It's obviously Cook. You're starting Kincaidian.
17:10You're starting Moore. Has anyone else got you going?
17:13Or does the New England defense maybe push you off that?
17:16Because I think that's where I'm at. Yeah, I'm not ready to get any non-studs from the Bills into here.
17:23I'm sticking to those four corners, those four pillars that you mentioned.
17:27Like if you want to start Khalil Shakira because you're just absolutely desperate or something in the flex spot, I mean, good luck to you.
17:35But I'm not going to be doing that. Yeah, I think I'm with you.
17:40Again, Allen is such an animal. He's eating up all the touchdowns.
17:43Cook gets him too, but that's where they're going.
17:46All right, Jake, let's cut that right there. That was really good.
17:50We're going to be back in just a minute.
17:53A couple more games to go over. We got Jets, Bears, Jags, Bengals.
17:57And at the time, we'll do some Cowboys and Texans.
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19:08Some fantasy-loving coming at you. Next up, Jakey. J-E-T-S spells ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch.
19:13This one, the best line I could come up with in my write-up, I thought it was really clever, but I hate giving myself too much credit.
19:22The Jets, as soon as they started playing well, got hurt.
19:25The Bears didn't start playing well until they got hurt.
19:28Did I say that right? I see what you did.
19:32Yeah, something like that. Anyway, my Jets were looking good, and then they started dropping like flies.
19:37Brees Hall is down for a few weeks. Garrett Mitchell went down, but I think he's okay.
19:43Looks like Mason Taylor is going to miss also.
19:46And A.D. Mitchell, who I was slowly falling in love with.
19:49I should have known he was going to miss another game if you saw the size of that mitten.
19:55He looked like a 1980s offensive lineman with that thing.
19:59So it's Jets and Bears. Jets are three and a half point.
20:03Underdogs on the road. Ben Johnson will not announce the starter.
20:06How nice of him. How about this? Keenum, I think he's Keenum adjudicated himself really nicely.
20:11He looked okay. He made some stakes. I think the Eagles were the fail point in that game.
20:17We might see Tyson Bajan, but the more I looked at it, I think they're probably a decent facsimile of each other.
20:24So I don't want to go too far into the weeds missing information, but I think the Jets is really straightforward, right?
20:32You love Kenyon Sadiq. I think you can roll with Geno Smith.
20:35Of course, you like Mitchell. I'm guessing you have no choice if you've added Braille and Allen than to start him.
20:42And the Bears, I think you're looking at the close to the line of scrimmage targets, regardless of the quarterback.
20:49So, you know, we saw the Luther Bird in love.
20:52Unfortunately for us, Colston Loveland guys, it was the Kalief Raymond show again.
20:56Though Loveland almost had the touchdown, and then they missed him on another long one.
21:01So he is definitely still very much a part of the plan.
21:05And I'm still calling him a buy low, but I also have a couple of mortgage payments invested in that young man.
21:12So let's go, Loveland. Let's get it together. I think this one could be a lot of fun.
21:18The total though, Jake, at 43, felt a little bit low.
21:22I think we're going over it. Jets defense played really well for two weeks.
21:26I didn't think they were that good. Then they got smoked by the Lions.
21:31I don't think they're that bad. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
21:36Same to be said for the Bears, who finally played well last weekend.
21:40The 43 again feels low. I'm expecting a lot more scoring than the books here.
21:45What say you? Yeah, John, I think this is going to be a pretty fun slop fest, actually.
21:51Like, I don't think this is going to be amazing football to watch necessarily, but I do expect there to be, yeah, more points.
21:58So you and I are definitely in agreement on that.
22:02And yes, Garrett Wilson just simply must see 15 targets.
22:05And if he doesn't, then I'm writing a strongly worded letter to the Jets organization.
22:10With all those guys out, of course, Garrett Wilson, big, big up to the moon, I guess, as some people say.
22:17Braylon Allen, though, that is the big question mark, I think, in this matchup.
22:21Yeah, you can definitely start him. But I just don't know that he's going to have the big fantasy day that everybody
22:28kind of anticipates unless he falls into the end zone.
22:31Now, the Bears have given up at least 100 rushing yards in every game so far.
22:37But Allen's not the explosive running back that Brees Hall is.
22:40He's not as versatile as Brees Hall is. He's kind of a true plotter.
22:45And I do think Isaiah Davis, who didn't really get any work last week, you know, on short notice when Brees Hall
22:52left, I think that that changes this week. I think that a split workload makes a lot of sense because remember the
22:59last time Brees missed a game, which I think was back in 2024 now.
23:04But it was Davis and Allen splitting pretty much down the middle.
23:08So I think with an actual game planning situation this week, just don't expect all of the touches to go to Braylon Allen.
23:15But I think if you're desperate, you could also put Isaiah Davis in your flex.
23:20Ben Johnson, just stop toying with us, though, please, so we can figure out what to do with these Bears and these Bears pass catchers.
23:28I mean, don't start either backup quarterback unless you're truly in dire straits.
23:32But Kalief Raymond, John, I mean, I'm OK at this point saying you can flex him until he gives you a reason not to.
23:40Am I crazy? Am I just looking too much at the final output and not enough at the inputs?
23:46No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. You strike while that iron is hot.
23:50We've seen it happen before with Zacchaeus last year, who ended up being supplanted eventually.
23:55But if you were on the original train and then made a transfer to the next oncoming train, you were the winner both ways.
24:03Again, don't look the gift horse in the mouth.
24:06Kalief Raymond at 26% target per route, two and a third yards per route over 10 yards per target.
24:12And it's a valued role, right? We want that inside kind of slot role dragging across east to west in the Ben Johnson scheme.
24:20I actually think he's been the benefactor, not because Kalief Raymond is suddenly great, but all the attention is going towards Burden and going towards Loveland.
24:28And Raymond just kind of finds some space and he's being targeted.
24:32So yes, he's absolutely flex worthy, though. I think at the first bad game or the first Loveland breakout, it might be C'est la vie on that front.
24:41Man, can't give myself that I butchered that quote.
24:44I really wanted to nail that. But, you know, such is live radio.
24:48Next up, this one should be a lot more interesting than I'm getting old, Jake.
24:53These are the games that we're dying for and I just can't get excited for it.
24:58Jaguars on the road versus Bengals. This feels like it has future ramifications.
25:03Playoff seating could feel like an AFC championship type match.
25:06You know, the Bills are certainly part of the conversation, but Jacksonville and Cincinnati certainly on the short list.
25:12Very good balanced teams, prolific offenses, and kind of tough defenses, though.
25:16The Bengals linebacker crew didn't look great. Even with that, though, it was a roughing the punter and a fumble by Joe
25:23Burrow that cost the Bengals that game. They really should have won.
25:27I kind of took that personally. And not to be jockeying my own model too hard, but this one has a big total.
25:3551 and a half, highest total on the board.
25:37I don't see it. I'm almost a touchdown lower.
25:40I think we're to the under here. I think you're going to see two teams kind of feeling each other out, looking
25:48to run a lot, and establish each other and kind of trying to disallow the other team from having the ball too far.
25:55That said, both of these pass games can be really efficient.
25:59Are you starting anybody out of the norm? I think that's the question I'm getting.
26:03You're starting T-Law. You're starting Parker Washington. You're starting Tootin and Chase and Burrow.
26:08Are there any kind of secondary pieces that maybe have your eye?
26:12I mean, I think it's worth questioning if the Bengals' defense is exactly what they were the first two weeks or if
26:19last week was a little bit more of the earned reputation that they should have going forward.
26:25Because, you know, coming into the season, it's not like anybody thought the Bengals were this dominant defense.
26:30And they just got sliced and diced by Aaron Rodgers, like he was the newest ghost face in the Scream franchise.
26:37So there should be room for more than just the normal guys to get something done, at least on the Jacksonville side of thing.
26:45I still am of the mind that 90% of the time, Parker Washington is the main guy in that offense, in that pecking order.
26:53Last week it was a Jacoby Myers game. He got eight targets to Washington's five.
26:58So I'm also fine starting Jacoby Myers again and just testing out and seeing if this Bengals' defense is going to get
27:05back to what they started off the year as or if they're just going to kind of fade into what they've been.
27:12Yeah, I love that call-out. Jacoby Myers is one of the names that I was hoping you would mention.
27:18He's now leading that team in routes run. Travis Hunter is playing defense.
27:22And Brian Thomas is losing work to Josh Cameron.
27:25He's also been getting, you know, the eye of Sauron from all these really great cornerbacks.
27:31One injury note for Cincy, that slot corner Jalen Davis is on the IR.
27:35I mean, that's really great news for Parker Washington.
27:38I also wanted to call out Mike Gusecki, who is a tight, he's a Tino, right?
27:43A tight end in name only. He's really kind of taken over the Bengals' third pass-catching option.
27:49And I think for a Joe Burrow team, we should be more interested in that than we are.
27:55Mike Gusecki, over 1.9 yards per route, you know, just under 17% target per route.
28:00But that dog will hunt for a tight end on a prolific offense.
28:04You know, the tight end competition is pretty weak.
28:07The stat that I was mentioning before had to do with Trevor Lawrence.
28:11And I couldn't believe that Trevor Lawrence right now is outside the QB1 conversation.
28:15And I'm like, wow. Did you know, Jake, through three quarters of play, Trevor Lawrence is the overall QB4.
28:22He drops to the QB14. When you include the fourth quarter, he's averaged one fantasy point a game in the fourth quarter.
28:29So maybe now Cincinnati should keep this one competitive.
28:32It's time to roll with Trevor Lawrence. People have been asking me, man, what's going on with T-Law?
28:38Nothing. You have to get pushed. And Jacksonville has just been, man, they've been that good.
28:43Everyone's so obsessed with the Liam Combs stuff and all the interesting offensive pieces that the defense doesn't get as much love as they should.
28:51They get tons of pressures and tons of sacks and they tackle well.
28:55And I think you could say the same for Cincinnati.
28:58Again, I think you're right to call out the defense a little bit.
29:03I think the front four is really strong and it's the linebacking crew.
29:07But we're going to see how that shakes out.
29:10This one, it feels like you're in line with me, right?
29:13Maybe a little less fireworks. I didn't squeeze that one out of you.
29:18Just really quick because we have to move on.
29:20Over under that 51 and a half, Jake. I mean, I would take the under.
29:25And just as a quick aside, I also think you're going to have to wait a little bit more for the Chase Brown true breakout of 2026.
29:34Okay, great. Good stuff. Thank you for confirming my priors.
29:37The reason I say that is had you decided you're over 51 and a half, we really should be more interested or
29:45should be interested, I should say, in more fantasy assets.
29:48It takes a lot of scoring to get there.
29:51So if you're not interested in it, but you're on the under, at least you're consistent.
29:56All right, next up, we could probably do this one pretty quick.
30:00Dallas Cowboys on the road, two and a half point underdogs against Houston, who I'm really having trouble making any kind of ends out of.
30:08You want to start us off on this one?
30:11It felt, coming in, it felt like Dallas offense juggernaut.
30:14Dallas defense bad. Houston defense juggernaut. Houston offense really bad.
30:17But the Dallas has kept up that side of the narratives.
30:21Houston's been a little, like a little more wishy-washy defense.
30:24Not quite as good as I thought they'd be in the offense, at least without Nico, who is supposed to play.
30:31Man, they look terrible. How important can one single player be is really my question.
30:36Well, that is the million dollar question. And we should hopefully get the answer to that this week because Nico Collins was
30:43practicing Friday, which is huge because I think what you're talking about, both on the offense and defense for Houston, it does
30:50come down to him because their offense looks completely different.
30:53It looks completely shambled without Nico Collins out there.
30:56And you cannot have a terrible, predictable offense for four quarters and expect your defense to also look lights out.
31:03That's a really tall task to be, hey, we're going to be terrible 100% on this side of the ball.
31:09You guys have to be amazing 100% on that side.
31:13It's just not how it works. I will say that Houston did bounce back from, you know, a pretty uncharacteristically awful showing
31:20against Josh Allen in their first game. So all things considered, I actually think they've done a standup job, as it were.
31:27Now for Dallas though, John, and I don't know if we're going to be completely in sync with this, but I think
31:34when we talk about good offenses going up against good defenses, sometimes as fantasy players, we tend to overrate the defensive side
31:41and we just go, ah, let's just put kind of tampers on everybody on offense.
31:46I'm not doing that this time. Like Dak Prescott, CeeDee Lamb, George Pickens, all of those guys, I'm more than comfortable starting
31:53and saying, go beat them because good offenses can do that.
31:57And this is a good offense. Javante Williams is a different story, John.
32:01You might have to sell me on starting Javante Williams this week.
32:05Yeah, again, I think you just have to out of necessity because he's controlling so much of the touch share.
32:11You know, he's one of the few guys that are really in what we would consider kind of a bell cow role.
32:19Javante Williams, I happen to just have it here.
32:22His nearly 18 touches a game is good for a 79% opportunity share.
32:26And he's also in the double digit team target range, which those two together, right?
32:31Put them together. What do you got? Bibbidi-bobbidi-boop. I think you have a player that you really have to start.
32:37If there's any handicappers, modelers, or touts out there, you may want to stick your fingers in your ears for this one
32:44because it kills me the more of this I look at.
32:48No player is supposed to be worth more than a couple points in an NFL game as far as the spread.
32:55Those are generally only reserved for quarterbacks. And usually they're really, really good ones.
32:59Nico is none of those things. And I still think he's worth more than that to the Texans because of it's just
33:06the way his functionality resonates throughout the offense. Let's say his ability to not just stretch, but when intermediate and across, right,
33:14allows the rest of that offense to kind of fall into place.
33:17You know, we saw how they look without him, right?
33:21That's where our guy booty ended up. He's really just a vertical threat.
33:25Without him, he doesn't challenge the versatility of a defense in a way that Nico does.
33:30I think Nico also keeps the defense honest in a way that might help David Montgomery in this one.
33:36So I'm kind of back on the Montgomery train.
33:39I think you could probably start marks if you're desperate in a flex spot, but I'm over.
33:45I'm going to go out there. I'm overvaluing Nico Collins for what he matters to this team, what he means to this team.
33:52Although I'm with you. I think Dallas gets it done.
33:55I think they win as a dog and I think all the fantasy assets are going to produce, but just because on
34:03Houston, there are so few that we're interested in.
34:06Man, really great job on that one, Jake. Let's take another quick break.
34:10We're going to be back in just a minute.
34:13We're talking Cardinals, Giants, some Rams and Eagles as we close out the second half here on this week four edition of
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36:04Jake, I want to pitch this one right to you.
36:07Let's do it. It's probably a little less exciting than some of the other games.
36:12We've got Arizona Cardinals. They're one and a half point favorites.
36:15The Cardinals are favorites. Someone's expecting them to win.
36:18They're on the road in MetLife to face the Giants.
36:2145 total, which kind of felt a little bit high to me, to be honest.
36:26What say you about Cardinals and Giants? Should we be excited about this at all?
36:31There's pieces of this game, I think, to be excited about.
36:35And often we complain that it's not very clear which people we should be starting and who is standing out versus who is sort of blending in.
36:44It's pretty obvious on the Cardinals who is standing out beyond just Trey McBride, who we knew.
36:49Now it's Michael Wilson, who's pulled himself out of that wide receiver abyss in Arizona.
36:5417 targets. 17 targets. I mean, if you see that, though, I'm actually underwhelmed by his final fantasy output based on 17 targets.
37:01But he did fantastic. Obviously, if you started him, you're excited that you started him.
37:06You start him again. Because Jacoby Brissett, they are more than just eating brunch together.
37:11They are, I think, breakfast, lunch, and dinner seven days a week together with how they are looking at each other right now.
37:19Jeremiah Love, though, kind of the guy who went, I don't know, maybe he was benched last week.
37:25I could certainly understand if people felt like they should bench him last week.
37:29But then he gets 26 touches last week to Tyler Algiers' six.
37:33So, John, to me, this just says that the Cardinals are finally comfortable with Jeremiah Love's health.
37:39And I think that was the big impediment to him getting the workload that we just drastically wanted him to get.
37:45So, I'm full throttle in with Jeremiah Love the rest of the way, I think, John.
37:51Am I getting ahead of myself with that? No, you got to give it up for the emergence of the young man.
37:58Hopefully, you did start him last week. But if you're rostering him, you're really happy nonetheless.
38:03Let's get the Cardinals their second gold star, not only for being bad and staying competitive, but also for running a very consolidated utilization tree.
38:11Just all the things that we love about fantasy, right?
38:14To attach yourself to an underdog that's going to be throwing like crazy.
38:19We'd like to see him be maybe a little more efficient.
38:22This stuff is, it's totally crazy that the Cardinals are running, you know, top three number of plays.
38:28They're running 67 plays a game, but they're also bottom three in yards per play.
38:33And, you know, that happens when you're not very good.
38:36But you do get the funnel targets too. Wilson and McBride, those guys are really just going nuts.
38:42Wilson looks like a, you know, smash pick, 26% target per out on the year.
38:47The yards per out are a little low because, again, we've had some conversion issues.
38:52But if the unrealized air yards have anything to say about it, he's going to close out just fine.
38:58So Arizona, nice and clean. I'm more interested with all the moving pieces in New York.
39:03I mean, I have to admit, I was at least partially in the camp of people who was excited.
39:09You know, dreaming on the Jameis Winston that we were told about.
39:13Right? Where is that guy? Where is the guy that plays completely unafraid?
39:17And he's slinging the ball all over the place, not worried about turning it over, not to say that we want him
39:25to be, you know, haphazard with it. But he was giving Whitehouse a chance.
39:29That felt like, you know, the case. You're not throwing the ball very deep.
39:34If Malik Neighbors has five grabs for 26 yards, I mean, another stinker from the Giants offense.
39:39And we'll be actually talking about J.J. McCarthy soon.
39:42Could you give us a quick one-two on the Giants?
39:45Because this feels like it's going one or two ways.
39:49I don't know if there's going to be a middle ground here, right?
39:53Jameis ascends and takes the Giants with him. Or it's a wrap for Big Blue.
39:58Ooh, this offense looks really terrible outside of Scadabo.
40:01I think you've got to start Neighbors just for name value.
40:04But I'm very worried about the Giants. Yeah, I did say last week that this is part of the Jameis Winston experience.
40:11Everybody remembers the glowing 400-plus yard, four-touchdown games. But there are just as many of these games in his back catalog.
40:18I will give him a slight pass because it was a downpour situation in last week's game.
40:24We could maybe get the reinvigorated Jameis Winston experience.
40:27But he spent a lot of time on TV this summer.
40:30I don't know that he's as focused on being a starting quarterback as he once was.
40:35I agree. Start Neighbors. Start Cam Scadabo. Keep an eye out for Isaiah Likely to do something to show some signs of life.
40:43Otherwise, we might be panicking on him. Yeah, I mean, at the very least, I mentioned consolidation.
40:48We like that, though. We like a little more production.
40:52So it sounds like we're starting Neighbors one more time.
40:55We're starting Likely one more time because it's really kind of a soft matchup.
40:59I mean, in a different, you know, plane of the multiverse, we're really very excited about this one.
41:05Arizona's allowing six and a half yards of play.
41:08They're bottom five in EPA for play. They're allowing almost 40 yards of drive.
41:13They're bottom three in three and outs. But the way Winston is playing, it just looks really ugly.
41:19Last note, because we were trying to mention some of the ads.
41:23I know there's a lot of first-come, first-served people scrambling.
41:26I think Najee Harris looks like he's pretty much secured the RB2 role.
41:30Again, it's not great, but it is something. You know, he had nine for 52 against a tough Tennessee front seven.
41:37So if something were to happen to Scadaboo, his style of play kind of lends itself to that.
41:43I don't think Harris should be floating around on the wave of wire.
41:47Let's try and squeeze one more in before the whistle.
41:50Another one. And this one should be entirely more exciting than I feel about it.
41:55I'm getting really old. It's the one and two Rams.
41:58They're three-point favorites on the road against Philly. This Philly team, I've been calling a Fugazi for a couple weeks now at this point.
42:06It doesn't look good. I think maybe, at least I owe Petulo an apology because we were blaming him, thinking that Sean
42:13Mannion was going to come in and save the day.
42:16Philly just doesn't look good. They don't look aggressive.
42:19And now Devonta Smith looks like he could be out for multiple weeks.
42:24I think the inevitable boost to Dontavian Wicks makes him a must start.
42:28But without Goddard, it's been Johnny Mutt and Zach Ertz.
42:31And then the Makai Lemon stuff, I feel like you have to start him for use volume alone.
42:37But it's been really brutal for him. They're having trouble getting him targets on the positive side of the line of scrimmage.
42:44Rams have Nakua playing. They're very consolidated. All the tight ends are hurt.
42:48So I think you roll with Higby because it looks like Parkinson and Ferguson are going to be down.
42:55So the Rams pretty easy to digest. Could you help me or us try to make some sense of Philly?
43:01And I know it sounds silly, but we're starting Jalen Hurts at least, right?
43:06Yeah, I'm still fine starting Jalen Hurts. And a couple of quick notes just about the Rams.
43:11Devonta Adams, Puka Nakua with this situation. I don't know that either of them are going to be elite for you this week.
43:19I think both could honestly fall into like that mid-range wide receiver too.
43:23Because we don't know if Puka is really truly healthy or not.
43:27Like I think they could both be top 20 options, but not like top 10 for either of them this week.
43:34Just based on the decoy potential of Puka Nakua.
43:36I absolutely love Tyler Higby. Start Kyron Williams. If we're talking about the Eagles, yes, Dontavian Wicks could legitimately have a career game.
43:44I think he's going to have to. Like what puts the remaining Eagles, the guys who are still healthy in a good spot is game script.
43:52Because like it or not, Jalen Hurts is just going to have to sling it.
43:57And it might be to his discomfort a little bit.
44:01But Dontavian Wicks and Makai Lemon are going to have to be some sort of threat.
44:06And that starts with Jalen Hurts making them into some sort of threat by actually throwing to the middle of the field a little bit more for once.
44:15That would be great. And I think you're going to have to start dumping off to Saquon Barkley because two targets per game, it's not enough.
44:23It's not going to cut it for Saquon Barkley.
44:26So if he does not see an increase in targets this week with Devontae Smith out, I'm looking to try to trade
44:33Saquon Barkley in my leagues based on his name value.
44:37Wow, that's tough. And I think you'll get a buyer.
44:40I was watching the tape. I thought he looked pretty sharp.
44:43I thought he looked quick, getting the edge a few times.
44:47But yeah, just the structure of the offense doesn't look right.
44:51It doesn't look right. We mentioned lacking a vertical threat.
44:54You know, kind of sinking the Patriots. And maybe there's a bit of that going on here also.
45:00Rams defense has, like, quote-unquote, they played well against the pass.
45:03You know, it was just all the totals are really good.
45:075.2 YPA allowed, below 10 yards per section. A lot of really nice benchmarks.
45:11But they don't create a lot of pressure. And I think that's when Philadelphia does kind of succeed, right?
45:18I have my criticisms of Jalen Hurts. But at the very least, when he's given time, you know, then you at least
45:25allow him that avenue to kind of flush out.
45:28The Makai Lemon stuff is really kind of driving me up the wall.
45:32I mentioned Johnny Munt. I mean, here's your stat of the day, and not a good one.
45:37Makai Lemon threw 88 rounds. He's out there playing, Jake.
45:4129 rounds a game. He's playing. He has the same fantasy points per route as Johnny Munt at .12.
45:47I mean, this is – That's basically mine. Yeah, it's a hair higher than yours.
45:52And when you're talking about that number, that's at the bottom.
45:55So that's our whistle. Marching band heading out here.
45:58That's a wrap for the first half of the Week 4 Fantasy Football Weekly Show with Jake and John.
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46:45We're back to kick off the second half here of Fantasy Football Weekly, Week 4 edition, with Jake and John.
46:51Jake, we're starting off. It's a battle of the Bays.
46:54Green versus Tampa. Green Bay, who I was very high on and I know you love very much.
47:00Yeah. Yeah, I'm making funny faces here for the radio crowd.
47:04Packers, three and a half point favorites on the road, which sounds good at first until you realize Tampa, without Baker Mayfield,
47:11which by the way, how bad must his injury be if he's missing a game?
47:16They're going to turn to, right, six-year college player, UDFA Jalen Daniels.
47:20Daniels, I'm not sure who's getting the bigger condemnation here.
47:23Generally, debuting QBs without draft capital are not going to be just three and a half point dogs for a winless team, mind you.
47:31Jake, you're the resident prospect around here. You have anything to talk about with Daniels before I go on an absolute tirade
47:38about the state of the Green Bay Packer run game?
47:41I mean, it is bad. There's bad, worse, and then there's a gap, maybe two, and then the Packers run game.
47:48Take it away on Daniels first, please. Well, yeah, I'll let you repeat the things that I shout at the TV about the running back situation.
47:57But when talking about Jalen Daniels, college veteran Jalen Daniels, you mentioned six years for Kansas.
48:02What I liked about him is what I hate about watching the Packers defense, which is his dual threat ability.
48:08And I don't think that he's actually a terrible, like if you play in super flex leagues where you can start two
48:15quarterbacks, I don't think he's a bad play at all this week against the Packers defense that gets easily flustered by quarterbacks
48:23of his nature, especially when they don't have any real game tape on him.
48:27And yeah, you can go back to college, but it's not going to be the same thing as what he'll do with Tampa Bay.
48:35But I think also the feather in the cap, if you can call it that for Daniels, is that I don't think
48:42he's that much of a downgrade from where Baker Mayfield has been so far this year.
48:47Like when we look at the pass catchers and you say, can I start a Mecca Buka?
48:53Can I start Godwin? Can I start Bucky Irving?
48:56Whatever. I don't think that the drop off is going to be that significant, which is a terrible thing to say about
49:03Baker Mayfield, who's had the fourth highest bad throw percentage, the fourth lowest touchdown percentage, the fifth lowest passer rating.
49:09I think that Daniels with his rushing ability, and if they're smart with doing some play action stuff, just letting him roll
49:17out of the pocket and see what's what with his feet.
49:20I think that he can actually keep things interesting for their offense.
49:24So wherever you were starting your offensive pieces for Tampa Bay last week, I would say I'm not going to move off
49:31of them just because of the QB switch. All right.
49:34You want to give him one more week? And I think that's, I think that's fair.
49:40One thing that stuck out to me, and I'm not sure it's quite actionable yet, but it is definitely worth noticing.
49:46Bucky Irving, who was really assuming his, you know, rookie season bell cow RB1 role and doing a fantastic job at it,
49:54mind you, blew a pass protection and they benched him for Kenny Gainwell.
49:58Now, a lot of times, and this is something you were talking about either last week or the week before, how there
50:05isn't always kind of carry over with that stuff.
50:08So I wouldn't overreact. But Gainwell, who shouldn't have been sitting on waivers in the first place, has been getting dropped because
50:15the situation there has just been getting so bad.
50:18But I think he should be rostered. I wonder if maybe it hurts Bucky a little bit.
50:23Again, the RB scenario is just so bad that I think you have to start him.
50:29You know, he's had 77% of the touch share.
50:32And even if you give up a little bit of that on an offense, it isn't great.
50:37It's still probably better than, you know, any of the other guys you might be adding.
50:42I doubt you could do better than Bucky. So this one, okay, fair enough.
50:47The Packers defense that hasn't been good, really struggling to get pressures and tackle.
50:51Maybe Daniels keeps Tampa afloat. That could be interesting.
50:54Again, it's what we want for fantasy. Over to the green and yellow cheese-scented elephant in the room.
51:00Jake, my NFL database goes back to the turn of the century, right?
51:04So I've got 26 years, 25.2 years worth of data.
51:08This Green Bay Packer run game is the worst in history.
51:11I say that, like, unironically and without exaggeration. They're averaging less than 50 rushing yards a game.
51:17They are dead last in EPA per rush, yards per rush at three, yards after contact per rush at two, rush success rate.
51:24I'm sorry. The Dolphins are actually worse by a tick.
51:28But the Packers are also the only team in the league right now that has neither a 20-yard carry nor a rushing touchdown.
51:35We're hitting, like, Jets interception levels from last year.
51:38We're almost bordering on the realm of ridiculous at this point.
51:42I mean, something's got to give its movable force and stoppable object.
51:45I think, and I was talking about this on my own show, that I wouldn't have been surprised if the Packers just outright abandoned the run.
51:54Marshawn Lloyd is becoming a really difficult start in fantasy.
51:57I like Caleb Johnson. I think he's a really difficult start.
52:01I guess you hold him for now. So before I go any further, I think the pass game for Green Bay should be good.
52:09Tampa's a notorious pass funnel. So it's wheels up for Watson, wheels up for Golden.
52:13I'm even sending out the klaxon call for my guy Sky Moore, who got seven targets from the slot.
52:20I think he could just be a good floor flex play.
52:23But other than that, I'm really disinterested. Could you shed some light on the Packers running back room?
52:29You're watching it a little bit more intently than most of us.
52:33I mean, I'm still watching it behind, you know, partially closed eyes and screams.
52:37But what I will say is that Caleb Johnson, if there's going to be a future with an improved offensive line, because
52:45the Packers have brought in every scrap free agent veteran that's out there to fill these gaps on the offensive line.
52:51And if any of it can work, then the one guy that I would like to see get more opportunity is Caleb
52:59Johnson, because I do think that he's better. So I'm going to go ahead and say, hold on to Caleb Johnson if
53:06you have the room to do so. But yeah, I'm not starting any of these guys.
53:11I would actually consider Tucker Craft on the off chance that one of these new offensive linemen gets in there and he
53:18doesn't have to stay in and block so much, which was the issue at least last week.
53:24Yeah, I still love me some Tucker Craft. I've always been into those like Yankee deep cut coming, like the Paul O'Neill kind of warrior types.
53:32Guys that, listen, you can say what you want about them.
53:36They definitely care. Craft was beating himself up about a critical drop.
53:40And I'm not saying I want guys like, you know, punching the wall or anything, but I think he's going to be fine.
53:47You know, he's run eight routes. So he's kind of reassumed a full-time role.
53:52Target per route rate is bordering on 20, the yard per route.
53:55He's not really there again. We've had some off-target throws.
53:59We've had a couple drops. I do think that will turn around, especially if Green Bay, you know, decides they just want to abandon the run altogether.
54:07And, unfortunately, I always tell my readers that also, I think, as much as we love the idea of, you know, pure
54:15pass game, you need some semblance of a run game just to sustain drives, to keep the defense honest.
54:21But, again, if they're going to really be focusing on Golden and or Watson, who have both been objectively correct answers, I really like the Sky Moore pick.
54:30I really do. I think you have to focus on those three guys so intently that Moore could be running around free.
54:37He was doing that. And he almost had, like, a big game last week.
54:42So leave the line on for Sky Moore. Other than that, it's pretty gross.
54:46Maybe the same thing for John O. Smith if you're absolutely desperate.
54:50All right, let's move on to the next one.
54:53That one just kind of killed me. It's Miami Dolphins and the Minnesota Vikings in the who cares bowl.
54:59Though Vikings are undefeated, so I went to go watch the Kyler Murray tape back.
55:04Jake, it was so bad. And, unfortunately, I was telling people to get away from Jordan Addison.
55:10That was a wrong answer. Justin Jefferson went down, and Addison is, like, the clear number one.
55:15Aside from Aaron Jones and Jordan Addison, is there anyone else in this game, including Dolphins, that you want to start?
55:22Malik Washington's interesting with the new role. Devin Achan is down, and Malik even getting some kind of, you know, built-in running game stuff.
55:30But, man, that Minnesota defense is making a career.
55:33Brian Flores, you know, makes his bones driving opposing quarterbacks out of their mind.
55:37Do we want anything to do with this game?
55:40I mean, the big news, of course, Caleb Douglas is out.
55:44No. I mean, he is. But the big news, with Justin Jefferson out, the thing with Kyler Murray has always been his
55:51propensity for hyper-targeting whoever his number one is. So that is Jordan Addison.
55:55Without a doubt. That was shown last week. There's room for a second guy, potentially.
56:00Like, yes, Aaron Jones in your lineup. 20-plus touches each of the last two games.
56:05We're partying like it's 2019 with Aaron Jones, and that's great.
56:08But, like, can I start TJ Hawkinson? Hypothetically, you would want to.
56:12He's running the third-most routes behind Jefferson and Addison.
56:15He's barely behind Addison in targets per route. He's the only other Viking besides Jefferson to see an end zone target.
56:22And yet, with Kyler Murray starting, I go, I guess if I have to, if I really have to, I can start TJ Hawkinson.
56:30But we've already talked about a handful of guys in this show that I would much rather start over Hawkinson.
56:36And we're going to talk about even more that I'd rather start over him, including, frankly, on the Dolphins' side of the ball.
56:44Because with Caleb Douglas out, there's a pretty clear, consolidated structure there.
56:48You've got Malik Washington, who offers the safe floor.
56:51You've got Chris Bell, who you can toss into your flex for the upside chasers that are out there.
56:57And again, if you're desperate at tight end, Greg Dulcich finally showed something.
57:01With Caleb Douglas out again, he will be forced to show something more against this defense.
57:06And it might be the one area of the Vikings defense you can, you can maybe exploit if that's even a thing.
57:13But yeah, it's not, it's not good, John. Yeah, agreed.
57:17I like to call out for Chris Bell. Sometimes we just have to keep our focus downrange, where even if you're not
57:24starting him, and I would not be starting him, I think he could be a decent stash.
57:29I hope this doesn't feel like take lock, because I was admittedly, you know, higher on the Dolphins than most people, and
57:37maybe even than I should have been. But I don't think we should discount the, you know, non-zero chance of growth, right?
57:44These things happen. And Malik Willis actually has two games this year with a YPA over eight, right?
57:50There is some potential there. He's just been taking too many sacks.
57:53In the last game, we saw him turn some of those sacks into rushes, right?
57:58He had the nine for 56, which is exactly what we're looking for.
58:03And Miami was representative against the Chiefs that some people thought they were going to, you know, have the blows door by.
58:10So I'm keeping the light on for the Dolphins.
58:13I just don't think this is it. Flores right now is like dialing up pressures.
58:18I think it's more than double the rate than anyone else in the league.
58:22So I think Minnesota does get it done. However, for our spread people out there, I don't think they get it done by double digits.
58:30And if the Dolphins were going to win a game, this could be it.
58:35Just because, again, I think the Minnesota offense is very, very flawed.
58:39I think they're very one-dimensional. And I'm not sure how many 25-punch games you're going to be able to squeeze from the husk of Aaron Jones.
58:47You know what I mean? All right. We got one more.
58:51Let's go Chiefs and Raiders. Wow. Now, if you would have told me that the Raiders would be one of the last
58:58standing, you know, half of a undefeated matchup, I probably would have been a little bit surprised.
59:03I thought you hit your head on something, honestly.
59:06Me too, man. Hey, shout out the old men.
59:09Let's go Kirk O'Chain's doing this thing for the Raiders.
59:12Although this is really a testament, I believe, to Clint Kubiak, right?
59:16Building a system to keep the trains on schedule.
59:19And I think he made one move that I really wanted to highlight.
59:24Because the Raiders, again, it's a very consolidated room.
59:26And returning Brock Bowers, he's like a legit wide receiver one.
59:30What Kubiak did, Jake, I don't know if you noticed this.
59:34They almost ran exclusively in 12 personnel. Meaning Kubiak understood the wide receiver talent is not really there.
59:39Where his second or third best pass catcher, at the worst case, is Michael Mayer, who's still an every down player.
59:46He should not be available. And I think he's a weekly fantasy play.
59:50I think he should be a flex play over, you know, a lot of, like, wide receiver fives that are getting that honor.
59:58So, talk to me about, you know, Chiefs, Raiders, whatever you like in this one.
60:03Chiefs have been pretty solid. I want to hat tip you for the Kelsey thing.
60:08Preseason, you were trying to nudge me to be more into Travis Kelsey and his role.
60:13And, yo, man, you know, shedding that wedding weight.
60:16It's been working. He looks good out there. I mean, it really is a testament to Eric Bien-Ami.
60:22That was the big thing was just I couldn't wait to see Eric Bien-Ami get his hands on this offense again.
60:29Because that was the last time that we saw him, or excuse me, that we saw the offense for the Chiefs look inspiring.
60:36Even if you, you know, hated seeing your team go against them, you liked what they did for fantasy.
60:42Obviously, Mahomes, Kelsey, Kenneth Walker, it's all good, right?
60:45But Rasheed Rice is the guy that I want to talk to just real quick.
60:50Because last week, he was third on the team in Snapshare, second in routes, first in targets.
60:56And it's all around the best performance that he's had all year.
60:59And fantasy managers still only walked away with 16 PPR points.
61:03I just do not believe that Rasheed Rice is a wide receiver one in fantasy.
61:08I think that he is going to be a low-end wide receiver two most weeks.
61:13Because I don't think that you can bank anywhere near consistently on touchdowns.
61:17Like, you can sometimes do that to excuse bad underlying metrics and say, yeah, but if they get a touchdown this week, I'm fine.
61:25I think the odds of him getting a touchdown most weeks are very slim.
61:29Because he's just not looked at in the end zone.
61:33So, if you can trade away Rasheed Rice to somebody in your league based on last week's performance, I would personally do that.
61:40Now... Yeah, great. Oh, sorry. Well, I would just say, I was going to ask you, because you were even lower on
61:47Rasheed Rice than I was coming into the season.
61:50That did not turn you around then last week, I assume.
61:54Oh, not a chance. I'm going to accuse you of reading my work, because that was really boldened.
62:00And the Chiefs write-up was that I have Rasheed Rice as a very clear sell right now.
62:05Get out while you can. Pitch the Mahomes fantasy points.
62:08Pitch the Rice targets and everything. And just get him off your team.
62:13Because I think we've seen... You know, I think we've seen the top.
62:17All right, Jake. That was really good. We're going to be back in just a minute.
62:22We've got a couple games. Chargers and Seahawks. Looks like my guy, Jadarian Price, is out.
62:27And then we're going to do Broncos 49ers. That one's really exciting before we dive into the primetime games.
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63:21Starts and sits. All the dynasty stuff with our guy Jake.
63:24All right, Mr. Jake. Ay-yi-yi. When you hear the somber tones, right?
63:28Sombber tones means we're getting ready to talk about the Chargers.
63:32A team I was so excited for. And I wasn't the only one.
63:36But I have to take the L for love.
63:39I was so excited for the prospect of the Chargers getting supercharged.
63:43Oh! With Mike McDaniel. And, you know, healthy offensive line.
63:46And that just hasn't happened. I'm not sure there's been a bigger disappointment.
63:50Chargers are still winless. They're on the road in the PNW to face the Seahawks in a...
63:56Who are in a get-right spot. Because they just lost to the Commanders.
64:00Which was kind of a shock. Seahawks are a touchdown favorite at home.
64:0442.5 point total. I mentioned Jadarian Price being out before we move on.
64:09That Seattle running back room is a disaster. So I definitely would like a name if you've got one.
64:15But more importantly... Can you go in your bag for a ray of sunshine on the Chargers?
64:20I don't want to give up hope yet. It seems too early with so many moving pieces.
64:26I mean, it does. Okay, I want to be sunshine guy.
64:29So I won't say that last week... Come on here and said...
64:33If Justin Herbert doesn't perform against the Bills... I think he's a drop candidate.
64:38I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that the Chargers were...
64:43You know, gifting five turnovers to their offense. And that the offense turned those five turnovers into one touchdown.
64:49On a shovel pass to Keaton Mitchell. I won't say that either.
64:53I won't say that whatever Mike McDaniel is trying to do in Los Angeles...
64:57Just straight up isn't working. And that the upcoming schedule of Seattle, Denver, Kansas City...
65:02And the Rams and Texans look terrifying. I'm not going to say any of that, John.
65:07Because I'm going to be sunshiny here today. So what I will say...
65:12Is that Ladd McConkie... When he is healthy... Is very good at separating from defenders.
65:17And that hypothetically... If a quarterback was given any amount of reasonable time to throw the ball...
65:22Ladd McConkie would look very, very good for fantasy.
65:25So I'm not giving up on Ladd. And I'm actually excited to see that Trey Harris is getting more involved in that offense.
65:32Because he should have leapfrogged Quinton Johnston forever ago.
65:35Quinton Johnston should not be a thing. The Chargers are destined and desperate to make him a thing.
65:41So whenever Trey Harris does leapfrog him officially... You'll be very glad that you have him stashed on your bench.
65:48So I would do that if he's somehow out there.
65:51Outside of that... I don't know what to tell you.
65:54Oh, Murray and Hampton. Just... You feel bad. Because he's a good running back.
65:59If you watch him play, he's still a good running back.
66:02But I don't know any running back who's O-line proof.
66:06You know? So I'm... I don't know if you can trade him, John.
66:10Like in your leagues right now. You kind of just have to roll him out there.
66:15And be happy that you get RB two weeks.
66:18I guess. Yeah. Hampton is losing work to Keith Mitchell.
66:21He is not catching any passes. Or being targeted.
66:24And he's putting the ball on the ground. Or a bad team.
66:28And things are starting to spiral a little bit.
66:31And you mentioned the schedule. We don't make it.
66:34But they're just not going to get any relief.
66:37And it feels like... Again, not to make excuses for them.
66:40But it does kind of feel like... Man, they just had one soft landing spot.
66:45Where they could get stuff on track. And operate.
66:48Get some confidence going. Then, you know, maybe that could do it.
66:52But... Though I... Gotta shout out the defense. They played really well last week.
66:57They played good enough to beat a very good Buffalo team.
67:00Just the offense was terrible. I actually made a mistake.
67:04I misquoted. And I had said it was QJ that got hit by that snap.
67:08It was your guy, Trey Harris. Who, to me, is a must-add.
67:12Lad McConkie got downgraded to DNP during the week with a foot.
67:16Our wonderful producer let us know that he did return to practice today.
67:20But that doesn't change the fact. There were a couple games in.
67:24McConkie is just missing games. Missing quarters. In the tent.
67:28Missing practice. It almost feels inevitable that he's not going to close out the season on the field.
67:33And I think that would make Trey Harris the number one wideout.
67:37Now, to Seattle and the defense. And I think another great call by you from McConkie, who is a legit excellent player.
67:44Seattle lost because they were a little stubborn in their approach last week.
67:49They're very much locked into this, like, all preventative, all cover six zone type of thing.
67:54And it can work because they have, you know, a lot of playmakers out there.
67:59In the front seven, Ernest Jones. And in the secondary between Witherspoon and Emmon Worry and Julian Love.
68:05These guys are legit playmakers. That said, I think they could stand to maybe man up a little bit more.
68:11And the guy that would beat them in the zone would be McConkie, right?
68:16We saw that with Washington. All they were doing was running constant crossers.
68:20There was just crossing everywhere where Diggs excels. And even a guy like De'Ami Brown.
68:25So, if the Chargers are going to pull off the miracle, that's going to be how it happens.
68:31Though also it would be the Seattle run game or lack thereof.
68:35Without price, Jake, before we move on. Could you put a name on anybody?
68:39I don't see people giving love to Emmanuel Wilson.
68:42But it just doesn't feel like there's any explosivity left here.
68:46Maybe Wilson with the base work. Holani to catch a few balls.
68:50Would you start anybody? Both neither or anything in between?
68:53I mean, I know people right now, if you're just hearing this, hopefully you've already seen the news and you went out
69:00to your waiver wires to grab one of these guys.
69:03But Emmanuel Wilson, he looked fine in week two.
69:06But he certainly didn't look inspiring. And it certainly doesn't look like somebody that is going to get a lot of targets.
69:13That's going to be Holani. So, this is going to be really split up between Holani and Wilson.
69:19I would say, based on what I perceive the game script to be, I would much rather start George Holani.
69:26Because that's a guy who is going to see targets.
69:29He got something like 50 yards, I want to say, close to it at least last week.
69:34Just in receiving. That's going to be something that they'll have to explore this week, I think.
69:40Because the Chargers defense, again, is good. The Chargers defense is good.
69:44The Chargers are not the problem in that respect.
69:47So, I would much rather take... Because outside of JSN, we've talked about this before.
69:52Although, excellent call out on A.J. Barner last week by you, John.
69:56Because he did look great and certainly delivered for fantasy.
69:59But I don't know that I trust any second pass catcher implicitly on the Seahawks right now.
70:04So, why not George Holani, is my thought. Yeah, I think I agree with you there.
70:09Again, Barner... And not to, like, overshoot what he is.
70:13But he fits that bin of flex-worthy guys that I think is better than a lot of wide receiver sixes.
70:19I think people just get locked into the position and feel like, I can't start a tight end at flex.
70:26It feels like surrendering. But, I mean, Barner is probably the second pass catcher.
70:30And he's even gotten some goal line work. Which I think is a huge boost for any tight end.
70:36Right? If you can get a tush-push, that's... Gosh, you're pretty much a tight end one.
70:42A back-end tight end one. Just that one play alone.
70:45Speaking of goal line work, that's pretty much all gone to Wilson while he's playing.
70:50So, yeah. I don't think it's very exciting at all.
70:53I think it's Wilson for baseline and goal to go.
70:56And Helani for the rest of it. But, again, if you're in PPR, he's probably the higher floor.
71:02I guess Wilson has a higher ceiling. Because, theoretically, anyone could break a long run.
71:07But there is just not much. Like, legit. There is just not much to speak of here.
71:13Helani's at 3.5 yards per attempt. Wilson is at 3.4.
71:16I mean, you're getting nothing after contact. In fact, neither one of them has been able to crack two and a half
71:23yards at the contact for rush, which is usually like a benchmark.
71:27And there's just no explosivity here. Positive EPA. Just, it's really bad.
71:31So, yeah. It's all JSN. He's the man. Start him, you know, every day, twice on Sunday.
71:36Three times if your league settings will allow you.
71:39But other than that, it's pretty ugly. And the Chargers, yeah, it's McConkie.
71:43I think you start Hampton because you have to.
71:46But the rest of them, it's fine if you go Missouri, as I say, once a show.
71:52And make them kind of show you first. All right, next one.
71:56This should be exciting. I think I am actually.
71:59I'm going to get excited. Be excited. Be excited.
72:02Yeah, Denver Broncos. 2-1 on the road. Two and a half point underdogs to the 49ers who just, gosh, it seems like
72:09they're getting stronger with every injury somehow. I mean, yeah, you take your substation jokes and jam them because the 49ers and
72:16Kyle Shanahan are just so far in their bag.
72:19I mean, they are lapping the league right now.
72:22They're over seven and a quarter yards per play.
72:25Their success rate is near 60%. Their EPA per play is almost at a third, meaning they are good for a third of a point on the scoreboard.
72:34Every time they run an offensive play, it is outrageous.
72:37Got to keep an eye on my guy, Mike Evans, who also has been doing the blue tent thing constantly.
72:44He keeps insisting that he's going to tough it out, but he's DNP back-to-back.
72:48So keep an eye on that. Broncos. I don't know, man.
72:52The offense is worrying me. I've been off of Sutton.
72:55I'm worried about Knicks because he's not running at all.
72:58Jonah Coleman is down, so I guess you could start the running backs.
73:02Waddle's either been hit or miss. There's a lot of mixed signals for the Broncos.
73:07I'm not very much into Denver. Do you have anything that you're really into in this game?
73:13I mean, besides the obvious on the San Fran side.
73:16Damn it, John. We were going to get excited about this one, remember?
73:20Remember? That was me being excited. When you're old, that is me being...
73:25I have to go sit down now. I will say, I mean, at least Jalen Waddle practicing, that's good.
73:31Mike Evans, a game-time decision, never a good thing.
73:34Jalen Waddle, though, truly maybe the most horrendous start to a season that you could have because he comes out and does
73:41two yards in his first game, so then folks bench him.
73:44And then he goes off for 138 yards, and so then you want to start him.
73:50And then he puts up 12 receiving yards. And now this week he was even seen in a walking boot, and that got people scared.
73:58And supposedly he's okay and probably going to play, but I don't know how you feel comfortable starting Waddle, truly, and it's not his fault.
74:06So it is Bo Nix. Bo Nix has not been accurate whatsoever.
74:10His on-target throw percentage is only higher than Justin Herbert and Jameis Winston, two quarterbacks who we are not inspired by right now.
74:17So Waddle could do everything right against the Seattle defense, which plays very tough, but he could still walk away with only
74:24a handful of yards because his quarterback just can't do anything.
74:28So I'm actually saying start any Broncos player this week at your own risk.
74:33I get RJ Harvey, kinda. I kind of understand that, but I'm not going out and starting Pat Bryant.
74:39I'm not starting Cortland Sutton. Debo Samuel kind of feels like the only, besides CMC and George Kittle, and Brock Purdy, feels
74:46like the only smash that maybe isn't totally obvious to people right now.
74:50Like Debo Samuel is the guy that I need in my lineup this week.
74:55Do you feel the same? Absolutely. One million percent.
74:58One million percent. Now, the only other kind of alert that I was putting out, because I was getting a lot of
75:05questions about, should I roster Jordan Watkins, who ended up going two for 60 after Evans went down?
75:11He only ran a quarter of the routes. One of them was a decent play.
75:15The other one was a total busted coverage. He was just kind of floating around all by himself.
75:21The player that was playing every down was Kaderil Hodge, but he didn't even earn a target.
75:27So we just may get even more consolidation around Kittle, who looks, gosh, all of a sudden, Jake, Achilles surgeries are like bullish.
75:34Nothing. I mean, I know for us, us injury pessimists, we are down bad, my friend.
75:39We are down very bad. But Kittle, you're rolling with, I think if Evan starts, I think you rolled him because he
75:47seems to get a touchdown every game before he leaves.
75:50But I think I'm with you on the Denver side.
75:53And that's one of the more concerning things. Outside of Waddle, who I guess you're starting for the draft capital, I'd be
76:00fine if you legit made me any kind of argument to sit every one of them.
76:05Yeah, I know you feel forced to start the running backs, and I get that part.
76:11But you don't want to if you don't have to.
76:14And let's say you're in like a shallower league, I would have no problem looking for other guys.
76:20Really snap call before we take our next break.
76:23Okay, Braylon Allen or the Denver running backs? Ugh.
76:26Oh, God. That's the answer. That was the answer.
76:29I would lean towards Braylon Allen because I actually think there's more touchdown opportunity for him.
76:34Yep, survey says ding, ding, ding. I think you're going to get more plays with a better share and a better team
76:41total and a better matchup because San France even played defense really well, which kind of surprised me a little bit.
76:48You know, they could probably stand through a little better, maybe forcing a couple more three and outs, but they've been really strong against the pass.
76:56So, yeah, this one just is what it is.
76:59I think San Fran keeps it rolling. I'm surprised to see inside three points at home.
77:04I think San Fran gets it done. All right, let's take our very last break.
77:09We're going to come back with the primetime games.
77:12There's two more on the docket. Lions and Panthers, Falcons and Saints in the NFC South showdown.
77:18When we return and wrap it up, Fantasy Football Weekly, week four with Jake and John.
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78:06You can read some more of our musings. Jake holding down some of the Dynasty stuff.
78:11I've been doing the game-by-game breakdowns and just more than you can handle.
78:15Really love the utilization report. I like that. I like the weighing of the opportunity.
78:20Sometimes I fall into just volume, but, you know, empty calories are going to do it, Jake.
78:26All right, two-minute warning time. Well, not literally, but close enough.
78:29We've got two games left. Primetime games on the docket, which I've really been enjoying this year.
78:35Not like anyone cares, but I feel like we went through a string of bad standalone games.
78:40And this year, it feels like they've really been interesting and exciting.
78:44Speaking of which, Detroit Lions, they are a fantasy dream, right?
78:48Everything fantasy dreams are made of. When you score 30 points a game and you give up 30 points a game, we love everything about it.
78:56They're on the road as three-and-a-half-point favorites against the very surprising Carolina Panthers.
79:00This total is very high at 49. Lots of fireworks being expected.
79:04As always, sorry about that, with the Lions, the major story has to be Jalen Coker for the Panthers.
79:10He was downgraded to DMP during the week, but now they're saying that he could actually play.
79:16I always get a little bit worried. You know, I'm still an injury pessimist, Jake.
79:21So aside from me being rude at that ring, sorry, my kids are very annoying.
79:26They're getting that age where they have cell phones.
79:29I thought that was Jalen Coker calling you and just saying, Hey, man, I'm playing.
79:34I'm fine. I told you I was fine. What are you spreading propaganda about me for?
79:39All right, so Lions three-and-a-half-point favorite against the Panthers.
79:42Really, I think it's a testament to how well the Panthers have played because in preseason, this line was probably a touchdown.
79:49Yeah, I mean, obviously last week, people saw the Panthers come back down to earth a little bit, but everybody's bound to have those games.
79:57I think Bryce Young is still somebody that you should be happy to have on your roster and you should be happy to start.
80:05Frankly, both quarterbacks. We've talked about Bryce Young. People at large have talked about Bryce Young.
80:10No, he's still really talking about Jared Goff and I kind of just feel bad.
80:15He's so consistently underrated, at least from the fantasy sphere.
80:18We're like, Jared Goff, if he is your QB, he's not winning your week probably, but he's so very rarely helping you lose that week.
80:26So I do just want to shout him out.
80:29Get him in your lineup if you want. And also, I just want to point out this one stat that made me smile a little bit.
80:38Jameer Gibbs has more total yards and touchdowns on his team than Amon Ross St.
80:42Brown, Jamison Williams, and Isaac Tesla, the top three wide receivers combined.
80:46So, you know, start Jameer Gibbs. But I did want to get some temperature reading on Jamison Williams because outside of Jalen
80:54Coker, where I feel like if he truly does suit up, and we may not know that until right before the game,
81:01if Coker suits up, I just think his upside is too high for me to want to sit because he's been so
81:08consistent with being such a dominant force. But Jamison Williams has not.
81:12Jamison Williams has not looked anything like the Jamison Williams of old where we might've excused the first game, John.
81:18We might've excused even the second one of like, oh man, he really should have done something in that one.
81:25Three in a row of semi-duds? I don't know that I can excuse that for Jamison Williams because the rest of the offense is still looking so good.
81:34So can you talk me into wanting to start or even hold on to Jamison at this point?
81:40Yes. Yes. Get your shot glasses out. Fire for a shot at Jamison.
81:44We finally get it going this week. And it's really just about the injuries in the Carolina secondary.
81:50There's no starters left. There's just nobody left to speak of.
81:53JC Horn, injured reserve. Also Mike Jackson, injured reserve.
81:56Carolina is really going to struggle with the deep stuff.
82:00I know Jamison has. It's definitely been aggravating. But you know, he's out there and they're doing their thing in scoring points.
82:07I feel like it's only a matter of time.
82:10You know, he's averaging just under six targets a game.
82:13The thing that really stuck out to me was, and again, I don't know how sticky this is.
82:19Yak historically is not sticky. So I think as part of why I think it's gonna be fine.
82:25Jamison Williams has less than half of a yard after the catch perception.
82:29And that's like not a thing. Like that's not even a thing.
82:33There really aren't any other players that have that.
82:36Those are Jason Witten numbers. What are we doing?
82:39Yeah, no kidding. You know who's got that? I'm just scrolling my spreadsheet.
82:43J. Michael Sturvian is even double that. I mean, it's just, it's not a thing.
82:48So I think that that will get turned around because I think the deep shots have even been there.
82:54Jamison has three targets this year, over 20 air yards, and he's caught two of them.
82:59So, you know, a little bit of conversion on a good team.
83:03I'm trying to stay the course. I think Williams could be a really clear buy low candidate, right?
83:09Could easily be one of those guys that you look back on and say, this was great.
83:14Wow, I can't believe we let him go for so cheap on a team, like I mentioned, that's scoring a million points
83:21and giving up a million points at the same time.
83:25I wanted to do one quick shout on Carolina.
83:28In case Coker is down, the name that I had circled was Bryson Tremaine.
83:32You probably know more about him than I do, but it turned out Tremaine not only filled in in every down role,
83:39he led the team in everything, and he was very good.
83:43So I always kind of look to see, I mentioned the etch-a-sketch.
83:47It's not like running backs where, oh, player A out, player B gets opportunities and therefore soaks up those fantasy points.
83:54It doesn't always work that way. But Tremaine was out there.
83:57He went four for 83. He led the way with Ted McMillan and Darren Waller kind of eating up all the attention.
84:04Richard Waller, by the way, should also be started, and he might belong in that flex bin that I was talking about.
84:12So, yeah, give me Tremaine as like a first-come, first-serve ad, just in case.
84:16I think at the very least the Jalen Coker manager, because it's a standalone game and you might need a late replacement
84:23with 85% of the league having already played at that point, is an ad that feels sharp enough, right?
84:29Well, that's exactly what I want to highlight, is only in the instance that you have Coker and you need a replacement,
84:37that's the only time that I want to bring Tremaine in.
84:40It's not that he can't do well. It's just I think it's too unpredictable with him.
84:45And I like that you called out Darren Waller because that's where I would pivot to.
84:51If you have the option between the two and you already have a tight end and you don't need to start him
84:58in your tight end spot, I would rather flex Darren Waller in this particular matchup.
85:03The Lions just can't really do anything with that type of tight end, that pseudo tight end as Darren Waller really is.
85:10Right. So, yeah, and Chuba Hubbard, just keep doing your thing with Chuba.
85:14Started him, obviously, this week as well. Yeah, shout out to the Panthers in that bin with the Cardinals, right, of the
85:21bad teams that are going out there and getting it, man.
85:25Go out there and get it. Dave Canales is, you know, let him go throw the ball.
85:30Try and win. Try and score points. Be aggressive.
85:33Right now, can't believe it. Unbelievably so. Bryce Young leading the league in passing yards.
85:38Unbelievable, man. You know, I think we're going to need to have an offseason conversation about challenging our ranges of outcomes because
85:45that's really kind of been a big thing for me.
85:48I think a lot of people do it. We chop off edges of the bell curve as things that can't happen, but they certainly can.
85:57So let's get into the last one. Monday night, NFC South showdown.
86:00I was – this one turned into some weird, like, apologia for me.
86:05Falcons, they're on the road, two-and-a-half point dogs against the Saints.
86:08Falcons looked reborn with Michael Penix, who was – I don't know what – they gave him Michael's secret sauce from Space
86:15Jam, if you remember, in between the first and second quarter because he was atrocious quarter one.
86:21I think he was two for seven with 22 yards.
86:24Ended up having a wonderful game. Understand the assignment.
86:27Force-feeding Drake London, who looks like he could be the overall wide receiver one, you know, rest of season.
86:33But it was my Saints. Now they're my Saints.
86:36The Saints are my team. I love the Saints.
86:39After the Jets, that's a team I'm rooting for.
86:42I find myself emotionally invested. I love Shuck. I love Olave.
86:46I love Juwan Johnson. But – and as we mentioned with the Packers, and there's a couple other teams – without a
86:53semblance of a run game, the machine is hard to function, right?
86:57It's hard to get it to run smoothly. You need something.
87:00And they just haven't done it. They gave Etienne the bag, replaced him with Kamara.
87:05Healthy scratch for Miller. Now Etienne, excuse me, is down.
87:08And I don't know what we're going to get.
87:11Everyone is chasing Kamara. I've been telling people to go the other way and add Kendra Miller.
87:17I think he's a really interesting first-come, first-serve ad.
87:20Also, Falcon side, again, as consolidated as it goes, I am trying to leave the lineup for Kyle Pitts.
87:26I think he's an interesting buy low. Does he have, like, two fantasy points on the entire year or something like that?
87:33It is just, again, range of outcomes being stretched.
87:36So it feels pretty consolidated. I think you roll with your starters and not get too cute.
87:42What do you think about this one? Yeah. Obviously, yes.
87:45Drake London, Bajon Robinson, these are not people we need to tell you to start.
87:50Chris Olave, we don't have to tell you to start him.
87:53Juwan Johnson. You and I have always differed on Kyle Pitts, and I just tend to believe that Kyle Pitts only functions
88:00as a star tight end when the situation is just right.
88:04Like, he is the fantasy Goldilocks. No London, you mean, right?
88:08No London. London is out, or if there is some other weird situation where he is necessitated, then he can do it.
88:15But otherwise, I just have a hard time believing he will do it.
88:19So for me, I'm certainly not starting Pitts. If you want to hold on to him, I have no issues with that.
88:26But with the backfield in New Orleans, that's where...
88:29And I never want to say I'm excited about an injury, because I'm not.
88:34I'm not excited that Travis Achan got hurt. But he was pretty uninspiring as a running back.
88:39And I wasn't in on him when they made that pickup this offseason.
88:43It just never felt like it was going to gel.
88:47I didn't think he was special. And I felt like they were trying to force things.
88:52I actually think this opens up a path for Kamara to go back to his late season role last year, which was actually pretty effective.
89:00I think that he will be utilized in the passing game.
89:03I think that Kendra Miller should have had a million opportunities by now, and so many coaching staffs.
89:09I don't know if it's something about his character, if it's just he's not a hard enough studier or something.
89:16I don't know what people have against Kendra Miller, because in the few opportunities I've seen him get, he's really delivered.
89:23So I'm with you, John. I think Kendra Miller should not certainly be on waivers.
89:28You don't have to start him this week, but I would above, especially like if you're dealing with this versus the Seahawks
89:35backfield, give me either Kamara or Miller over Emmanuel Wilson and George Helani right now.
89:40I want both of those guys above those other guys.
89:43Yeah, I really like that call. I forgot to mention this one has a 48 and a half point total.
89:49So we are expecting some fireworks. Also probably worth noting Atlanta turning into very much a pass funnel.
89:55The rush defense is like through the roof. I mean, they're leading the league in defensive success rate.
90:01They're allowing fewer than three yards per rush, fewer than two yards after contact rush.
90:06They've yet to allow a 20 yard rush or a rushing touchdown.
90:10That would be the converse of the Green Bay Packers.
90:13So the Saints aren't looking to run. They're looking to throw and I think right, that's we're going to get a bludge.
90:20So I'm actually expecting a ton of fireworks here, which is why, again, I'm kind of leaving one little flickering light on for Kyle Pitts.
90:28Yeah, I think you start, you guys. How about look at Devon Vele?
90:33I get a lot of mixed signals on him.
90:35You know, I don't, I've kind of been attached to him.
90:39I don't think he's a ceiling play by any case, but it feels like the floor is there every single week.
90:46And again, if we're worried about any kind of rushing going on there, you know, Vele's been good.
90:52He had a floor game three for 39. If you give me seven points as a flex guy, I think he's startable.
90:59What do you think about Vele? Yeah, I see a lot of similarities where you're forced to start like a Devon Vele
91:06versus a Malik Washington from the Dolphins. These guys are not going to excite you.
91:11I don't think that you're going to see a hundred yard game or anything close to it from either of them.
91:18But in this game, based on how kind of high scoring we expect it to be, I would rather go Vele over somebody like Washington from the Dolphins.
91:27I think that there's some semblance of a ceiling that isn't there with some of those other guys.
91:33Yeah, I think that's really sharp. I think when we're trying to make these coin flip decisions, lean into the environment, lean into the scenario.
91:41I think sometimes we get, well, Malik Washington is the number one and Vele is the third option.
91:47The third option of a tremendous pie or a giant sheet cake, right, is bigger than a little tart or something.
91:53I don't know. I don't know. You'd think looking at me I'd know more about desserts than I do.
92:00All right, Jake, we made it. 15 games, week four, Fantasy Football Weekly.
92:04Thanks, everybody, for listening. That'll do it. Have a great weekend.
92:07From Jake Trowbridge and John Leguizzo, make sure to check out the FL website.
92:12And good luck this weekend. Fantasy Football players love to tell ourselves we're being rational.
92:17We're looking at the data. We're studying the matchup.
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92:25Of course you are. Suddenly you're watching a backup tight end you barely thought about all week because you need 12 more yards.
92:33Now you know exactly how many targets he has.
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