0:00Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright Welcome in!
0:07Pandemonium! Pandemonium! Moments before the show began, just trades happening in League of Record People trading for big names, Jonathan Taylor, Lamar
0:15Jackson, Josh Jacobs So I'm thrown off a little bit because Yeah, I know, this show doesn't exist Right now it's just,
0:24gosh, people positioning for the stretch run But I mean, that's what you guys are doing out there Injuries galore this year
0:32My super team has already lost two starters for the season We lost another one yesterday with Terry Terry Oh yeah, Terry
0:41McLaurin I mean, yesterday was also when we got the news on Devontae Adams I don't think we got news Yeah, sorry,
0:49I'm jumping ahead I was so bummed out Like, Terry You know, you remember the Nick Chubb injury Where it was like,
0:58on the Cleveland when he got And it was just like, it felt like everybody went Yeah Yeah, I mean, it's That's
1:06how I feel about Terry Because it basically feels like a career Yeah, but it's all like I love Terry McLaurin, man
1:15Right Like, I'm emotionally connected to this man Here's what makes that situation So those that didn't see 49ers, 23 Commander, 17
1:23Last night Terry McLaurin went down With a minute 40 left in the first quarter And Non-contact Immediately grabbed his knee Yeah,
1:32it's What I was going to get at was that The commanders were just lambasted That's a word, right?
1:39Yeah I think it's lambasted But Sure Tomato, tomato Tomato, tomato For not paying him in time Right Now, he was an
1:48older wide receiver when the contract got You know He came out He was holding out They bring him back He has
1:56been worth I mean Not his fault Got hurt But also like We're like, man, pay the man Instantly He comes back
2:05early Or sorry He came back late Got the contract Yeah Instantly hurt Misses most of the year Mm-hmm Comes back Now
2:13this is a catastrophic injury I mean, how old is Terry McLaurin When he recovers from this?
2:2032? Yeah, exactly I mean, this is They should not have paid him They could have paid him as a reward For
2:28being there during the dog days But I'm just saying Like, in retrospect Teams are put in a really tough position Sure
2:37When they have an older player That has done a lot for the team In the franchise And you want to pay
2:45him And reward him But you know that The clock's against him Of all the weeks In the last two weeks now
2:54We have had We did that study Oh my gosh I see where you're going Yeah So It was all this week
3:02Yeah, it was all this week One of the studies I did In the offseason was Let's find out what happens To
3:11the oldest Fantasy players That are drafted In the top six rounds Years gone by And like The super, super outlier Travis
3:19Kelseys and stuff Were the ones that performed Derrick Henry And Derrick Henry And Derrick Henry So The three names At wide
3:28receiver That were on that list Mm-hmm Devontae Adams Who now tore his hamstring That's the report Six to ten weeks Mm-hmm
3:36Mike Evans Who went out there Hobbling and left Immediately with an Achilles injury Have we I feel like I've never seen
3:45it Corrin With A catastrophic injury All three were the three Oldest wide receivers Yeah The Mike Evans injury He didn't even
3:53go to the side He just walked straight He just got up And he was like I'll see you guys at halftime
4:02Cause I'm outta here I mean That was He knew Yeah And when you saw him in the back And the way
4:10he was walking I think he It was very scary I assume he had fears of Oh yes A torn Achilles Thankfully
4:19it's intact But Not healthy They need to give him time Kyle Shanahan already came out And was hopeful He would play
4:27this week Don't do it Shanahan I know Calm down You gotta week eight bye Give the man some rest I don't
4:35think Evans is the kind of guy Anybody gets to say no to If Evans wants to play They're like sure You
4:44know what I mean You've earned it At a certain age I agree But also at this point You should be able
4:52to say You're not allowed Yes I'm not Go ahead Suit up I'm not putting you in the game Yeah You have
5:01to risk the loss Well for a team that's undefeated Yes 23-17 Dominant first half by the 49ers Invisible offense in the
5:09second half Seriously By the 49ers Kittle was five for 69 And a touchdown Three for 94 for Evans Before the injury
5:18McCaffrey Nine catches 16 carries They are still managing his workload They said something on the broadcast last night That illustrates That was managed?
5:27Yeah it was managed because Kalen Black got eight carries And it's also been managed all season At this juncture of the
5:36season Before last night's game He had 130 opportunities on this team He's had 80 In the same amount of games this
5:44year So They are looking Long term with McCaffrey Because that's what you have to do We just talked about Three older
5:53players When you have a three in front of your name You're at a higher injury risk You need to be managed
6:01for the long term And they want to win a Super Bowl They don't want to have like A record breaking Christian
6:10McCaffrey season And then not have him for the playoffs Yeah I mean It's smart But it is absolutely wild That this
6:18is Managing his workload 16 carries 10 targets That is a Monster workload He was everything for that team But What is
6:27What is absolutely insane Is that Yes that is less Than what They did Last year Yeah I mean Yesterday Well to
6:35put it You guys are right I mean yesterday Was the most opportunities He's had in a game For context The week
6:44before When they played Seattle And won He had 14 opportunities So the first five weeks Of the season He's averaging 17
6:52opportunities A game this year The first five weeks Of the season Last year He was averaging No not much more Right
7:01around 18-19 opportunities But They needed him last night To close the game out Not all of those touches Were like high
7:09value touches It was a lot of clock Running out Type of stuff Yeah but we'll take 10 targets That's the good
7:18stuff Some mismanagement By the commanders I mean this was They did it again 100% Dan Quinn thought On one play No
7:26no He said He said I knew it was fourth down He said I was talking about other things He said the
7:35word field goal Yeah no it was I wanted a fourth down field goal He explained that But also Liar liar Pants
7:43on fire Because the timing of it You got really upset Afterward Like you would have been upset When he threw the
7:51ball away But you weren't You were upset 20 seconds later When you certainly didn't find out It was fourth down But
8:00also Daniels Like last week We were having the question Is this a Dan Quinn Or a Jaden Daniels problem Who's at
8:08fault Because they're both at fault But who's more at fault And now this week Who's at fault They're both at fault
8:17Who's more at fault I don't know But they're both Dumb dumbs Let's have the fantasy discussion About the void left By
8:25the wide receiver Terry McLaurin You have You know Diggs is very limited At this juncture Of his career In terms of
8:34What he offers On the outside Big plays He's going to be He's going to be The possession guy Yeah I think
8:42His floor Just went up I think it's Super high I think his floor Now I don't think His ceiling is high
8:51Agreed But his floor Should be as good And as safe As just about Anyone out there I would expect For him
8:59to have Nine targets Every single game Here's the problem That I would illustrate And if he scores You're going to be
9:08happy But it's very much Like Keenan Allen In Indianapolis That nobody was Fighting on the Waiver wire for In the sense
9:16that The targets are Always going to be there If he doesn't score You're going to have A game It's going to
9:25be A lot of like Seven for 51 Six for 44 Agreed Last night he was Six for 44 It's a full
9:33PPR play I actually have A different Like Antonio Williams You can go fight You can go fight for him If you
9:42want to Right He'll have opportunities Traylon Burks Actually looked really good He'll have opportunities Diggs We talked about him Diami Brown
9:50He'll be involved They may trade for somebody BTJ is the rumor This morning To Washington I think the biggest Beneficiary on
9:59a week To week basis That may now be A startable asset Is Chigakonkwo I think Chigakonkwo Is going to become That
10:07go to wide receiver Slash He could You know He's always been An athletic freak A big play type of guy 69
10:16yards receiving Last night Seven targets Caught all seven of them That's the name I wanted to just bring up Yeah absolutely
10:24He's And the fact that He plays a position Where if you go out there And have You know Four for 66
10:33Diggs line without The touchdown You'd be happy At tight end Because you can scoop That up off of waivers The issue
10:41And we'll talk about it You know When we get into The waiver wire segment Here later in the episode They go
10:50to bye Yep So Picking up these players Antonio Williams And Chigakonkwo They should be Picked up But you've got to Consider
10:58that How good are they Worth You know Being two weeks away A stash A roster spot You know It's not like
11:07What you're getting When Chig comes back Is A league winning asset I would be very surprised there Yeah I I'll be
11:15very curious To see what happens If they're active In the trade Situation They're one and four now The East Has lost
11:24Or tied Every game They've played In the last two weeks Crazy Where are the Commanders going Where's Philadelphia Going Where are
11:32the Giants Going Like You know Dallas has been awful Dallas is probably My favorite to win The division Everyone Everyone is
11:41in it I mean the Giants The Giants are having To deal with Almost certainly A transition To J.J.
11:48McCarthy That could work It could also Very much not work Yeah I mean Right now You've got to I would imagine
11:56I don't have the odds In front of me I would imagine The Cowboys Might be the favorite Oh perfect Because Cowboys
12:05Are plus 130 The Giants are 154 Yeah That makes perfect sense And everybody else Is long shot There was a comment
12:13Last night By the beat reporter For the commanders This is the worst I've ever seen A commander's offensive line Well this
12:22was a long time Inoperable offensive line Oh that was in the offseason Yes Yeah yeah And then So that was set
12:30That's right And we've seen what's going on With our offensive line And then on a Hail Mary Attempt They can't even
12:39get the pass They rushed three guys Oh that was so embarrassing They rushed three players Against Six Blockers And all three
12:47guys Got to him And Jade Daniels Got smooshed I mean it was It was an embarrassment You had two offensive linemen
12:56Would you say It's inoperable Yes You had two offensive linemen Blocking nobody Which Kind of not their fault They line up
13:04there And there's There's no one there But then you had You gotta figure it out You had two Double team the
13:13guy On the right Who They both missed I mean it was Jaden Jaden was actually Driving with For an opportunity To
13:21be inside the 20 With a couple shots At the end zone Until that Unbearable Grounding Yeah they did Yeah they did
13:30get Bailed out On a penalty Here or there But it turned into A fun game From what was Such a boring
13:38game And also I just gotta Dude Fred Warner What What do you wanna say About him He's unbelievable Oh okay He
13:47is He is The defense Is decimated I just gotta say His name The defense Is decimated For the Niners And they
13:55look like The best defense In all of the land I just gotta say Evander Holyfield That's Exactly Right Exactly I was
14:04gonna come in And say Mustafa Last night The safety Dude Number one Number one That guy's biceps Are out of this
14:12world And he made some Freaking plays dude It was awesome Mufasa Okay Oh that's Yeah that's what He was doing Okay
14:21That was Jason's joke Yeah Simba This is CNN We have We have NFL news To cover We've got a Waiver Wire
14:29show And we've got Shenanigans throughout We'll see if more Trades happen in our league We can tell you What happened Shortly
14:38Let's talk news News and notes From around the league What happened Before the Before the The show began Is that Jason
14:46managed to Trade A TBD But should be good Josh Jacobs To the Packer fan In the room And Lamar Jackson Away
14:55To Al I was only able to do that Mike managed to trade His draft capital To acquire Jonathan Taylor Which He's
15:03pretty good Now there are Ironically there are Trade rumors around Jonathan Taylor That happened this morning I was aware Did you
15:12see the specific team No Seahawks It was the Seahawks Oh that would be A waste of my draft picks It's so
15:20sad It was just rumors About price And a pick For Jonathan Taylor Because You know the best part That would be
15:29The funniest part Unbelievable The funniest part of this Is Seattle Would If they did They would trade for Jonathan Taylor Elite
15:37Workhorse running back On top tier Running back contract And they would put him In a platoon They probably would No They
15:46would not They would not Platoon Jonathan Taylor He would not tolerate Such things They realized their mistake With Ken Walker It
15:54is as evident As I hope so The sky is blue I hope so They are 3-3 The Walker meeting We're still
16:03waiting For an apology But anyways That's what happened In our league of record And more trades to come I'm sure News
16:11wise JCM went on Injured reserve Bill Which sucks Yeah So Rashad White Yeah we didn't know Who it was going to
16:20be That was going to step up Into the role How healthy is Rashad White How healthy is Austin Eckler Both were
16:28in non-contact Jerseys for And both were irrelevant For the most part You got to touch Down We had to do a
16:37tiebreaker For the wheel of shame This week And Rashad White's Over was Or his more Was part of my Thought process
16:45That got it for you Well what got it for you Was Terry McLaurin went down Cause That's sad He was carted
16:54To the locker room Season ending injury Most likely Mike Evans Achilles We talked about A Debo unlikely to return Until after
17:02the bye week For the Giants Makes sense Trade offers Rumors for them Is Juwan Jennings Who's been Yelling on the sidelines
17:11At you know The head coach In Minnesota He's gotten almost No work No opportunity He wants out 49ers want him back
17:19It makes Too much sense For those that I mean just Insult to insult I think is the way I'll put it
17:28The Giants released Najee Harris Who I spent Fab on To play And lose Against Jason Has now been cut They don't
17:36have to Worry about a Four way time I think he Criticized the Time share And they said Well let's fix it
17:45Harbaugh came back So Najee said It's really hard To get in a In a groove He's never dealt With this before
17:53He gets a couple Carries Says okay This is how They're playing All running backs Say this Yes And then Harbaugh's answer
18:01Was Well we don't Have that guy We don't have A Derrick Henry I want one One of these guys Needs to
18:10step up But they aren't He was pretty much Putting all of his Running backs On blast Then they cut Najee So
18:18now it's a Three way time share And it seems like It will be a Three way time share Yeah so What
18:27else is going on The Devante Adams News Hamstring Tendon injury Sideline six to ten Weeks I heard he was Going to
18:35Undergo a Procedure To try to get him Towards the Six week period Which look When the news first Broke my instant
18:44Reaction was This dude is Out for the Year But six weeks Is not You know There's a big Gap between Six
18:52and ten Weeks Ten weeks You're going to Not really have Him for the Fantasy season Six weeks There is an Opportunity
19:01for Him to come Back Sure We don't Here's why 30-year-old With a Hamstring Massive hamstring The reason I Mention it Is
19:09because Where are the Rams going to Be at that Juncture A lot of People watching The game Against Arizona Said Four
19:18and eight Said Puka Nakua didn't Look healthy And If Puka's Not healthy Or he Goes on IR There is a Point
19:26where Maybe Adams Comes back And he's the Top dog Again I'm not Optimistic About that Return But it's Also It's worth
19:35To be closer To the 10-week Timeline But it Really Comes down To their Record So if The Rams I feel Like
19:43if The Rams You know Start winning They're two And four Right now At the Bottom of The division If they Go
19:52on A run And start Winning I think They will Let Devontae Adams Have as Much Time As possible So that They
20:00can Make the Playoffs And have Him Healthy Unless They need Him To win These Games Yeah The Rams Fans Are having
20:09A hard Time And there's Talk of Well do Tackles And so They're like Does he Re-retire Do they Try Ty Simpson
20:17At some Point In the Year Does Miles Garrett Take as Much Time To come Back Does Puka Have the Surgery Like
20:26What do You know I think It's way Too early For that Losing Way too Early For that Yeah I think They'll
20:34Be fine They're Still A top Tier Offense We'll See What happens The next Month Raiders Have been Good But that Is
20:43a Winnable Matchup Then the Chargers Who are Terrible The Commanders Who have Lost Enough Pieces And are Bad And the Cardinals
20:51So again Who granted They just Lost to But they Could reel Off four Wins Here What if They're The first Victory
21:00For the Chargers Would that Be your Signal To Tank Yeah Romeo Dobbs Placed On IR I didn't See that News Until
21:08Just now Yeah That one So he If he Missed it He got The huge Touchdown From drake May Hard Landing Wow
21:17Hurt His Shoulder And Oh man You guys Need to go Back and watch The video Cause his Teammates Are like Trying
21:25To celebrate With him They're like Yeah Cause he Caught an Awesome Touchdown But he's Like No dude I'm I'm Down I'm
21:34Really Dude Goes to IR It was No guys I'm Really Hurt Here Yeah It was My Shoulders Broke It's Rough Sterling
21:42Matt Just shared It for Our Slack Yeah It was AJ Brown And Douglas Yes They were Like They were Trying to
21:51Hype him I know I know It's just When you Have the Facts That he Was Put on IR That Wide Receivers
21:59Zach Charbonnet Good Chance To Make His Season Debut Alongside Jonathan Taylor In Seattle Just Kidding But Charbonnet Could be Back The
22:08Vikings Open the 21 day Practice Let's go Jordan Mason Aaron Johns has Been very Good For Fantasy In The In The
22:16Absence Of Mason We'll See What That Committee Looks Like Michael Four Undecided On Whether Jacobs Will Play In Week Seven Now
22:25That Jason Has Traded Him Away To Al I Put The Odds That He's Not Playing To Be High How Are You
22:33Feeling About That News There Al Great Okay Lots Of Monstratively Stubborn Individual So If Baker Feels Like He Can Go Which
22:42There Were Rumors Last Week That He's Like Pushing Really Hard To Get Back The Plans Could Change But Right Now They
22:50Want To Move Forward With All The Prep Time For Daniels And Then Lamar Jackson Could Potentially Practice In Week Seven Consider
22:59Day To Day Also On Al's Team So We'll See If He Ends Up Back In The Mix Yeah All The News
23:07Yep Okay We'll Take A Break We'll Get Into The Waiver Wire All Right Into The Waiver Wire We Go Lots Of
23:16Discussions And Questions And Comments And Thoughts And Frights And All Of That Week Seven Bye Week Waiver Waiver Waiver Presented By
23:24T-Mobile My Brain Is Just Going A Mile A Minute Oh We Got The League Of Record Trades Where We're Realizing Certain
23:33Players Are Like Hey Demario Douglas We Need To Move Him Up In The Yeah In The Waivers Because Of The Dobbs
23:41And The Washington White Outs And Terrence Ferguson Inters The Conversation We're Doing It Live Mumfield Should Be In There Too If
23:50You Didn't Put Him In This Is I I Mean Canata Mumfield Had A Big Game It's A Fun Time To Be
23:58Alive Is It Bills Chargers Commanders Jaguars Lots Of Big Names On By This Week No Josh Allen No James Cook No
24:06Bayshall Tootin And Lawrence And Parker Washington Commanders And Chargers A Hurt You This Week No No Were You Starting Any Other
24:15Players No But You You're Sometimes Tempted To It's Like Do I Have To Lads Active You Know My Number One Goal
24:23With The Chargers Is Firing Firing Mike McDaniels So That We Can Is Going To Happen Today Yeah Today Let's Hope Running
24:32Backs Rostered In Two Thirds Of Leagues But Jordan Mason Availability Is You Know He's At 100% That He's Rostered Are Leagues
24:40That Have The IR Spot And They've Been Holding On To Them But The The Plan Has Been To Get Him Back
24:49And Involved The The Coaches Have Talked About The Need For The Running Game And The Excitement To Get Jordan Mason Back
24:57Into This Game So If He's Active I Think He's Immediately A Startable Asset He Could Be Active This Week Great Matchup
25:06Against Indianapolis Great Matchups Coming Up Period Yeah Buffalo Green Bay What Tier Do You Put Him In Because I Think I
25:14Might Be Slightly Less Like Like I Think He's A RB 2-3 Type Of Player Maybe More On The Three Side I
25:23Think He's A Low End RB He's Going To Get So We're Similar I Think He's Going To C.J.
25:30Donaldson Oh no They called That one Back But he Did Get The Goal Line Carried And Camara Scored On A Screen
25:39Pass They ran For a Season High 175 Yards On The Ground Under 50% Rostered Kendra Miller It's Tough Because What Do
25:47You Invest On A Player Who Not A It's A One Week It's Pittsburgh This Week Which Is Not A Great Matchup
25:56And Then It's A Bye But Still Number Two On This List Yeah Probably I mean I Think Roshan Johnson Both Of
26:04These Guys Kendra Miller And Roshan Johnson Are Taking Advantage Of The Injuries Ahead Of Them Right So When Travis H.
26:12And Jr. Back Kendra Miller I Think Is Irrelevant And Then When Monunga Comes Back Roshan Johnson Is Irrelevant As Of Right
26:21Now Both Are Decent Plays They They Both Did Good Enough Last Week And Got Enough Work They've Got Equal Matchups New
26:29England Pittsburgh So You Go Out There And Spend 10 Bucks On Fab And Try To Get Them If Back Singletary Cam
26:38Scadaboo I Expect A Pretty Big Bounce Back From Cam This Week I Think He'll Be The Against Houston Well I Mean
26:46It Related To Opportunities Like I Think The Breakdown Will Be More Rushing Attempts For Cam Versus Everybody Else I Agree With
26:55That I Do I Am A Little Bit Excited At The Six Targets That Tracy Had They For Some reason They Have
27:03Not Used Scadaboo In The Passing Game Even Before The Fumble Benching They Just Weren't Using Him To The Degree That They
27:12Should Because He's A Freaking Awesome Pass Catcher That Role Is Important For Fantasy So Tyrone Tracy Is He's A Fine Pickup
27:20His At Least Does Not Require Another Injury But I Agree With You Andy I Think Scadaboo Will Come Out Be The
27:29Starter Get The Majority Of Work Again It's Bad Matchup Then They Go On By So None Of These Is Not A
27:37Great Week For A Running back Play Now Julian McLaughlin Call Him It Is Now That's What Everyone Call That's How You
27:46Pronounce His Name According To Thursday Night Football McLaughlin Was Nine For 41 Four For 14 Through The Air I Think He
27:54Is A Pretty Interesting One Week Start If Judkins If They Sit Him Out Again The Hard Part Is Is Dylan Samson
28:03Is There As Well Like Dylan Samson Is His Window Was Open I It Comes In And He Is Starting It There's
28:11Definitely Leagues Where Jaleel McLaughlin Should Be Picked Up It's Just It's The Path Is Is Dark And Full But The Fact
28:20That They Didn't Turn To Lowby Like They Did The Week Before The Game Was More Competitive Jonah Coleman Will Return At
28:28Some Point Again I I I Hate The Broncos Decision I Mean Their Offense I On The Show Was Jeremy Bernard Hope
28:37You Picked Him Up Not Enough People Did Good 57% Yesterday's Prices Are Not Today's Prices Rookie Wideouts With A Game Of
28:4511 Catches And A Touchdown In The Last Ten Years Jeremy Bernard Jamar Chase Oh Oh I Getting You Know The Nine
28:54Or Ten Targets As A Rookie That He's My Number One Overall Pick It Has To Be He's My Number One Again
29:02It's Hard To Not Make The Comp Rogers Mike McCarthy Randall Cobb Yeah That's Who Jeremy Bernard Is But Some Of The
29:11Names Coming Up Marshawn Lloyd With The Return Of Jacobs Hampton On The Bi Week Emmanuel Wilson I Wish This Button Could
29:19Have Oh Man I Wish This Button Had The Just A Land Mine I I No I Listen Hampton Has Been Farts
29:27But I Wouldn't Drop Them On The Waivers Because I Don't I Mean Listen To The Names We're Talking About In The
29:36Way If Basically If Jordan Mason Is Not Out There You've Got Kendra Going Into A Buy And A Bunch Of Backups
29:44You're You're Talking About Picking Up Jaleel McLaughlin First Round Upside Mike I Gotta Convince You You Gotta Just One fell Swoop
29:53Adam Gaines You Can Cut Those Guys Jeremy Bernard If He's There 57% Roster Pick Him Up Number One On The List
30:01You Gotta Go Hard In The Paint 50 Probably Yeah I Definitely Think He Doing This You Don't Put The Genie Back
30:10I Mean Pittman Was Crap Before Yeah But He Was Playing Through Injury I'm Just Saying They're Paying Him A Lot Of
30:18Money What You're Trying To Say Is It's Not All Going To Like This Every Week So Careful With He's Totally Worth
30:27It He Looked Outstanding He Is Exactly Where Aaron Rodgers Expects Him To Be Which Is 11 Feet From Him Right Which
30:35Is Turning Around In A Zone Extremely Important So Yeah I Would Go Hard After Him I Just Don't Necessarily Think That
30:44When Pittman Is Back On The Team He's Not Going To Be On The Sideline And So The 10 Targets A Week
30:52I Think Is Probably Not Going To Happen When All Three Are There Well The Ten Also They They Did Go To
31:01They Went To Overtime Right Yep Yes So They Got Him And D.K.
31:06Metcalf They Got Juiced Up A Little Bit Three Three For Thirty Was Metcalf Overtime Stats The There's The Running Backs It's
31:14Pretty Stinky But The Wide Wide Receivers This Week Are Very Exciting See Omar Cooper Jr.
31:21I Think Is Still A Dif Like I Want To Pick Him Up He's Barely Rostered I Think He Deserves It First
31:29Round Pick I Still Am I I'm Hopeful But I'm But Then Omar Cooper With His Breakout Game Antonio Williams Now With
31:38Terry McLaurin We Haven't Heard The McLaurin Injury News Yet That Certainly Looked Like A Guy Who Is Probably Not Going To
31:46Play Football Jordan Tyson There Was The News That He Is Traveling With The Team To Paris So His Return Could Be
31:54Sooner Rather Than Later Loves Beignets Yes And Escargot And Beguet Don't Get me Started On And Jacoby Lane Lane Lane Lane
32:03The Rookie Wide Receiver For The Baltimore Ravens He Had An Unbelievable Camp He Was Steamed Up As Like The Best Player
32:11You Know This This Rookie Standout Because Remember They Took Elijah Surah As Unfortunately He Got In Week One It Was Like
32:20He Was On The Field He Was Targeted In The End Zone It Looked Like For Week One A Rookie To Be
32:28Out There Like This And Then He Gets Injured Unfortunately Comes Back And Yeah Looks Good With A Backup Quarterback So When
32:37Lamar Comes Back Bateman Got Hurt Yeah I That Too Devontez Walker Did Run Ahead Of Him Rout Wise But But Bateman's
32:45Injury Yeah I Agree I Yeah I Mean Both Of Them Are Always Going To Be Second Fiddle To Flowers And Wilson
32:54Passing Volume Wise You Know You Have Those Games Where You Know They Don't Need Much More Than Henry And Flowers He
33:02Will Be A High Variant I It's Going To Be Some Red Zone Action I Lean Cooper Over Over Lane Yeah I
33:11Think Lane Will Be The Wide Receiver Two For The Ravens Rest Of Season Is That Valuable I Think It With Bateman
33:19Gone Mark Andrews Being Toast I Think I I Think The Discussion Around Demario Douglas Yeah Like Demario Douglas Has Had Two
33:28Monster Weeks And Now Dobbs Is Gone And Yeah AJ Brown Will Be Involved But I Don't Know It's Been Next Few
33:36Weeks But I Think There's A Lot Of Spot Start I Mean Trey Tucker Keenan Allen Ryan Flannoy Kendrick Bourne Had Eight
33:45Targets Yeah And He Will Continue To I Think Those Are The Canata Mumfield Will Throw Him Out There Just Because He
33:53Had A Nice Week When Puka Was Gone Did We Even Mention Keenan Allen Yeah Yeah Cause That Helped The Equation But
34:02Yeah I Think Keenan I Mean If You're Looking For Targets Which Is Pretty Much How You Look At Bi-Week Fill-Ins Unless
34:10You Harder After After Jacoby Lane Jordan Tyson And Antonio Williams And Then I'll Put A Couple Bucks On Omar Cooper And
34:19It Really Depends On What You're Looking For Though Cause If You Need A Spot Start You Know If You've Got To
34:27Actually Throw Someone In A Lineup You Might Rather Get A DeMario Douglas Well Let's Talk About Tight In And I Want
34:36To Transition Into You Know Somebody Like Hunter Henry Because Hunter Henry Should Also Be Moved Up He's Had A Couple Good
34:44Weeks In You Get A Bunch Of Other Cool Stuff With It But I Would Highly Recommend Going To Check It Out
34:53This Week In Particular It Will Be Very Very Helpful For You Yeah You Can Look And See Like Oh In Of
35:01Of Of Of Of Of Of Of Of Of This This Guy Looks Like The Kyle Pits Everyone Was Excited About And
35:10Chig Okonkwo Only 14% Rostered I Think He Will Be A Season Long Beneficiary Of The Injuries I Completely Agree Chig This
35:18He had opportunity when Diggs was out to step up and be the two.
35:24And he really didn't impress during that stretch. And then Chig did.
35:28It's tough, though, Jay, because Antonio Williams had the good, I think, rookie or first week.
35:34But then you lost Jaden during some of the opportunity for Antonio Williams, right?
35:40Yes. So I don't know if we've seen his best is my point.
35:45Like, let's scheme up a week where he's one of your primary guys.
35:50Yeah. I mean, I have liked what I've seen on a few plays of his.
35:56I just don't know that he's going to establish himself.
35:59If you had to start one tight end this week that's not named Kyle Pitts on the waiver wire, you got Hawkinson coming back.
36:09You got Henry against Chicago. You've got Higby against Las Vegas.
36:13It would be Higby. I'm interested in picking up Terrence Ferguson quite a bit.
36:18He's still got one week left on the IR.
36:22I just think explosive-wise with Devontae Adams out, we saw it for a minute before he got injured, and he was dominating.
36:30However, he's not there. Tyler Higby has been important, especially when you only have one of these primary wide receiver options.
36:38The matchup against the Raiders this week is pretty good.
36:42I know Higby disappointed last week with four for 22.
36:46But that was also while they had the other wide receivers there, and that was a crazy slog game against Arizona that was low scoring no one expected.
36:57He would be my start, but I'm also still interested if I'm looking for something more long-term for Terrence Ferguson.
37:05Okay. And then Michael Mayer is not that bad.
37:08No. He's kind of like their primary receivers are their two tight ends.
37:13It's wild. And they paid him as well. Wild defenses this week.
37:18The Vikings, if they're out there, for goodness sakes, because of the bye, grab them.
37:24They probably aren't. But the Browns play Tennessee this week.
37:27The Browns defense has been really good. And my goodness, that's an awesome start, as are the Jets, who get to face Miami.
37:36So Tennessee, Miami, two of the teams you're targeting a lot.
37:41Carolina, if it's Jalen Daniels. I'm a little bit more nervous if it's not.
37:46But those are some defenses that you can pick up.
37:50Yeah. Would you play the Tennessee Titans against the Browns?
37:54Because I know the Titans don't have a good defense.
37:58You don't usually play them. No, I wouldn't mind it.
38:01But the Browns are. It is at home. They are just.
38:06Like, Deshaun Watson has been playing okay. He's been playing better.
38:10But no one takes more sacks than Deshaun Watson.
38:13Or looks dumber when he throws. Yes, I mean.
38:1750% of the time. I think that. I think the Browns can go win.
38:22The Browns could go win. I mean, 13-10 was this past week.
38:27Yeah, but they could go out and score 30 points on the Titans.
38:32And still the Titans defense could end up with a really good fantasy score.
38:37Because of how Deshaun Watson plays. And I promise the Titans are available.
38:42Yeah, that's. I mean, that would be. That would take.
38:46What's the roster percentage? Cojones. Zero percent. I'm guessing.
38:50Well, people in Tennessee, maybe. I would love to know the real truth.
38:55I'll get on it. For that number. That was the waiver wire presented by T-Mobile.
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39:13Okay. Two percent. We'll take a break. We'll be right back.
39:17Any other big trades happening in our league? Anything happened in the last few minutes?
39:23I'm out of draft capital. Not yet. Papa Josh hasn't clicked except on any of my offers.
39:30That's a shame. I'd love to see another one pop through here.
39:34All right. We will jump into the mailbag for some questions from the Foot Clan.
39:40Mailbag. Mailbag. You psyched me out, man. Yeah. Andy's going rogue over here.
39:45What are you doing? I was like, I'm like, I'm looking at my quarterback for the streamers and I'm like, okay, I got to get ready.
39:55Oh, that's the mailbag. You want to know the truth?
39:59We built out this new waiver wire system for the show.
40:03When I popped back in, I just was past the streaming quarterback.
40:08You got the worst mailbag I've ever done. Here's the first mailbag question.
40:13Do you guys have- What are your streamers for this week?
40:17That's what I was saying. I stole your joke.
40:21Sorry. Full stream ahead. I apologize. That's okay, Mike.
40:24It was a funny joke. You'd love to talk on the show.
40:29I know what the narrative is. Streaming quarterback options this week.
40:33Josh Allen's on bye. Trevor Lawrence is on bye.
40:37Jason, I know you're starting Herbert everywhere. He's on bye.
40:40Kyler Murray is my streaming quarterback pick this week against Indianapolis.
40:45I like the bye week for Kyler. I think every week that he's been more and more acclimated, had opportunities to play in the system.
40:54He's looked a little bit better. I don't think he's looked good.
40:59I think he's looked a little bit better, but Indianapolis looks very, very opposite of good.
41:05But Kyler's available in more than 50% of leagues.
41:09There's an opportunity here this week. Yeah, I think there is.
41:13I think Kyler's actually a really good play. You want to target Indianapolis.
41:18You don't have to worry about weather in this game.
41:22So that's great. I'm going to go with CJ Stroud.
41:26Yours is the one. CJ Stroud. This is not just a good stream.
41:31Thank you. He's been awesome. I mean, in the four games with Nico Collins active, he's averaging 71% completion percentage, basically 300
41:39passing yards a game and over 20 fantasy points a game.
41:43That's like what you when you're looking for a really good fantasy quarterback, you're wanting him to score more than 20 fantasy points a game.
41:53He's averaging that with Nico. Now you add future first ballot Hall of Fame wide receiver to the team in Tank Dell.
42:01And then they also trade for Marvin Harrison Jr.
42:05But you said this at the news, Mike. It's like all of a sudden this team who seemed like they had no
42:13one to throw the ball to is like, well, now you've got, you know, Hutchinson's like, OK, well, he's fine in this role.
42:22And you've got Marv running a few routes. You get Tank Dell back.
42:27The doctor's doing what he needs to do, which is underneath.
42:32You got booty. You've got, I mean, this is a crazy amount of capable receivers there.
42:38And so against New York Giants, they're 10 point home favorites.
42:42It's a great matchup. CJ Stroud should be. He's the start of the week.
42:47Yes. For like independent of the streaming category. Yeah.
42:51He's going to have a great week. And this one, I guess the news, I hadn't seen the Jadlin news, but I
42:59like Baker Mayfield immediately off of your waiver wire against the Carolina Panthers.
43:04Should he be the one who actually started? Whoa, the lasers got me.
43:09Whoa. That scared me. Carolina is 24th in schedule adjusted points to the position.
43:15Baker and Baker was dropped in a lot of places.
43:1927% rostered. So he's probably- What's that over there, Mike?
43:22What's behind you? Mailbag. Hey, what a bag. Nothing.
43:26That one was better. That one was better. You guys want to do some mailbag for the Foot Clan?
43:33Oh, I'd love to. It's ironic that the second I said it's for the Foot Clan, you're like, let's not do that segment.
43:42It's really weird. You guys have kind of turned on them.
43:46Website question from Nick. What's up, ballers? Brand new member of the Foot Clan.
43:52Just wondering if I should trade Devontae Smith for T.
43:56Higgins straight up. Oh. Interesting. I'm going to go to the two, the Devontae Smith truther for this one.
44:03Yeah, I would. I love seeing 14 targets in the first game without Jalen Hurts.
44:09Devontae Smith, I think, is a better wide receiver than T.
44:13Higgins. But I'm going to take- I'm going to take- Not Tanner McKee.
44:18Not Tanner McKee. I mean- 45 pass attempts for Tanner McKee last week.
44:23Unremarkable was the commentary. And your bye week is gone.
44:27It's certainly not impossible that Devontae Smith is fine with Tanner McKee.
44:31Shoot, maybe even better. Slash Joe Milton. Yeah, but- Bazooka Joe's waiting.
44:36But yeah, I'm going to take the Cincinnati Bengals.
44:40Joe Burrow. T. Higgins is fine. I would do that.
44:43Okay. Joel in Colorado. Should I pick up Trey Tucker and drop Devontae Smith?
44:49Cool. No, I wouldn't do that. No, I wouldn't do that.
44:53Rob in London. Bonjour from London. Bonjour. She gets some football this week.
44:58Would you trade George Pickens straight up for Matthew?
45:02Matthew Golden. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I would. I think I would.
45:06I have watched every route of Matthew Golden this year.
45:10Matthew Golden looks fantastic. And he looks like somebody that Jordan Love trusts tremendously, is looking for when plays break down down the field.
45:19He was our trade for candidate weeks ago, kind of highlighting, hey, he's doing everything Christian Watts is doing, except for he's not scoring.
45:29Now he's had a touchdown three of the last four weeks.
45:33Yeah. And I mean, look at, look at three of the last four weeks.
45:38Wide receiver four, 10 and three. He's the wide receiver seven on the season right now.
45:44So yeah, I think I would, man, that is so tough to take someone as proven as George Pickens who's struggling.
45:53Yeah. I think you should do it. It's a tough one.
45:57And it is one of those trades where you're like, how is this happening?
46:02But do you accept it? I mean, do you accept that this is what's happening at this point?
46:09I think I do. I think you can have two things be true here.
46:15You can do this trade. George Pickens can get better and you can still have the better player.
46:21Like Pickens getting better might not equal what Golden will be.
46:26Correct. That's the part will make the trade that'll make the trade.
46:30Okay. Is there a world because we saw this a couple of years ago, Jordan Love balling out is the quarterback, quarterback.
46:39Jacob's question. Yeah. Quarterback five in fantasy football. They get Jacobs on this team and really are able to run the ball more around the goal line.
46:49They, they are they? No, no, no. I'm saying in the past.
46:54Oh, okay. I'm saying what happened was a shift in mentality, personality.
46:58Then in a week or two, you're going to add Micah Parsons or at some point.
47:05Sure. Defense, run the ball, that type of thing.
47:08And so this, you know, I, I, I talked a lot the last month about getting Jordan Love, picking him up, making
47:17him my start of the week, the last couple of weeks and this coming week and just like staying in the flames of this matchups.
47:26But I do believe, you know, going forward, you could have a shift from who the Packers are as this high flying deep passing offense.
47:36Did they trade for five new offensive linemen? Uh, they, no, but they, they did sign several extra offensive linemen, you know, a couple weeks ago.
47:46I think that's been the biggest problem. Yeah. I think that problem will remain.
47:51And so I think Jacobs will help because Jacobs will do infinitely more than Marshall and Lloyd, but I think he could
48:00get like six yards on five carries. I think we knew balance was coming in part this year.
48:07And you know, Tucker Kraft getting healthier, Golden looking good, Watson being a dominator.
48:12Matthew Golden is a huge part of it because last year, I mean, it's a good question to ask because that has been their philosophy before.
48:22Like even if they wanted to be high flyers last year, Matthew Golden was terrible.
48:28Like he, he was not a functional part. He got no targets.
48:33Yeah. But we say that's earned. Yes. So they gave it to Dobbs.
48:38Perhaps, perhaps if they had decided to target Matthew Golden, this would have happened last year, but it, it didn't.
48:45And you had injuries this year too. So Jaden Reed went out.
48:50Uh, it's, I think it's a little bit different with the way that Watson and Golden are playing to, to look at
48:58that and be like, we need to shift back.
49:02Those two guys, they compliment each other so well because they are such fast athletic wide receivers on the outside that like,
49:10you can't really scheme both of them. They honestly, they're very similar.
49:15Yeah. No, no, no. I think you're saying to each other.
49:19No, to each other. Yeah. I just think that Golden and Watson are very similar.
49:25Watson gets the red zone deep play advantage because he is a better, he's bigger.
49:31And like, so he can go high point of ball, but Golden's been able to do that.
49:37They target Golden on like goal line plays. They're just very, like, I agree with you.
49:44I think that they are very complimentary because you have a hard time defending two speedsters like that.
49:51So I think it is, uh, I would do it.
49:54I would trade like right now. If you played Ryan Flannoy over Pickens for this year, you're probably about even, uh, Caleb
50:03Williams on Thursday night football or wait for Stroud against the Giants.
50:08I play Stroud. I mean, last week you were better off playing Aaron Rodgers than Caleb Williams production wise.
50:15Hmm. Which seems crazy, but I looked into it and I started Caleb and it was a fact.
50:22Yeah. I certainly, I don't view Caleb Williams as someone that I'm needing to bench or wanting to Kyle.
50:29Do we have the over under? It's the new, it's the new England part that that is, that's where like the over
50:38under, I think is 50.5 for Thursday. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
50:42It's a high over under. The environment of the bears versus the Patriots seems more likely to get at, to spiral out of control in the second half.
50:53And people are having to put up points where the tech, the Texans are going to manhandle the Giants.
51:00Right. Like it's, it's either Jameis and you're getting a bajillion picks or it's McCarthy and you're getting a bajillion picks.
51:09Uh, so I think it's, I love Stroud this week.
51:12Oh man. That's a tough one. That's a really, really tough question.
51:17I think maybe you just take the for sure, uh, like Stroud for a half is probably enough fantasy points.
51:25I'm taking Stroud because I think the, uh, I'm gonna stay in the flame.
51:30So I'm going to go with Stroud there. It's, it's tough though.
51:35Jerry in California, who do I drop and keep rest of season?
51:39Fannin or Jawan Johnson? Which would you drop? Which would you keep rest of season?
51:45Wow. Good question. Fannin's been terrible the last couple weeks.
51:49Uh, Jawan's coming off of, uh, goose. Jawan was better.
51:53And then Tyson's coming back. You do have Jordan Tyson coming back.
51:58They are, they're in Paris this week. Um, then a bye week for Jawan Johnson.
52:03Um, and then I would expect to have Jordan Tyson back.
52:08So, uh, yeah, I, I, I would keep Fannin.
52:11I'm not like convicted to the degree that like, if you like one guy more, just don't feel stress over which one you keep.
52:20Adam in Cincinnati. Last question. Hey ballers, listen year round.
52:24Thank you. Is it okay to drop Cyrus Allen in a dynasty league?
52:29No. Well, he had two catches last week. Who's there dropping for who that?
52:35Laquan Treadwell. That's always the question is drop for who?
52:38If you're somehow there is an someone's for sure locked in RB to like somehow Seth McGowan is out there.
52:46Yeah. I'd probably go back. Meow. Meow. Meow. No, I don't.
52:50I will not make any animal indictments on Mr.
52:54McGowan yet. Like that's a move I could see happening, but.
52:58What about trail on Burks? I'd rather. Is he okay?
53:02If I was playing to win now, I'd want Burks.
53:06He got, he got absolutely undertaker choke slammed into the ground.
53:10Yeah. I think that was more of a pain, not injured.
53:14Ouch. It was pain. It looked pain. Yeah. He was standing up on the sideline.
53:20Okay. Was it good? Yeah. Burks is going to score more points this year.
53:25Yeah. It would depend on like, I would try not to cut him just to see if something develops over the year.
53:34Yeah. But I mean, there, there are some shoes to drop in the wide receiver depth charge.
53:41Like you could, you could sign or play some of these guys.
53:45And then the next week Tyree kills on the chiefs or Tyree kill is on, um, you know, one of these contenders.
53:54I don't know if Tyree kills going to be on a team.
53:58Yeah. He might not. Well, I do want Jennings trade.
54:02Okay. Yeah. Brian Thomas, junior trade other opportunity. I mean, some, some moves are going to get made.
54:09They've been made the last few years. I think something's going to happen, but, um, but yeah, I don't, I don't hold
54:18out like my percentage chance that Cyrus works out for the chiefs is like very low.
54:24It's like 4%. Yeah. Very, very low. All right.
54:27That is going to do it for today's show.
54:31We did all the segments, right? All the ones I was supposed to do in whatever order we want, whatever order we wanted.
54:40Mailbag Thursday night preview tomorrow. We'll catch it in.
54:43Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast.
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