0:00Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
0:05Welcome in! Wednesday, October 14th, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.
0:08Jason Moore is here, Mike the Fantasy Hitman. I'm Andy Holloway.
0:11Have we ever considered... You know, so in college football...
0:15The U. Yeah. Like we all know that that is...
0:18It's Miami. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Have we ever considered this being like the pod?
0:23The pod? I like it. I don't know man.
0:26We're the pod. There's nothing distinguishable there. Yeah. The pod?
0:29So we're just the podcast? I don't know, we are also the Fantasy Footballers but we...
0:34But we're the podcast. But we make a move.
0:37The F. The F... I think just the podcast.
0:40The podcast. The podcast. We're the podcast. Are we the or the?
0:43Yep. You can do it either way. I think it's Ohio State is the...
0:48Yep. College boy? It's always the... He's so quiet.
0:51The you. The Magnificent Ducers today. Al Borland and the Falcon in the back.
0:55And we got a great show for you. We got a fantasy draft redo on today's episode.
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1:04He took the next week off. We let him go.
1:07Yeah. NFL news to cover. Thursday night breakdown. Your questions in the mailbag as well.
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1:28The website. It is the website. Yeah. Yeah. Our Megalabowl top five right now if you're playing in the Megalabowl.
1:34I'm realizing it might be bad for branding, but it would be pretty cool.
1:39Yeah. Show me your touchdowns is first place. Purdy Strange Flowers in second.
1:43Spanko? Well... Andy was not sure if he was going to read that one.
1:47And then Mike's like, Spanko! But it's also 3-2.
1:50Spanko 3-2. There's a lot of them. Southern Boy, 2003 in fourth place.
1:55And what's the last one there? Bergforged? Bergforged! So there you go.
1:58By the way, the records of those teams... I just looked up...
2:02I looked up my ranking. Because I've got two teams in the Megalabowl.
2:06I'm 8-2 and 10-0. And I'm like, I wonder where my 10-0 team...
2:10You cheater with two teams. Well, no. People are allowed if...
2:14There's a way. There's a method. I know. Yeah.
2:17I inherited an orphan team, but I looked up my undefeated 10-0 team that is scoring a kajillion points every week.
2:24I am in the top 1,000, barely. I'm like 900.
2:27Yeah, the most points is 832, and that team is 9-1.
2:30So it doesn't... You know, your record is not the only thing that matters there.
2:35Is your... I'm curious. Is your 10-0 team the team you drafted or the team you orphaned?
2:40I believe that's the team I drafted. It's ironic because the team I orphaned and the team I drafted, they're like so...
2:47It's crazy similar. I have like all the same core players.
2:51Yeah, it'll be a good time. We'll see who breaks through and wins the Megalowl this year.
2:56By the way, by the way, you remember I was feeling really good yesterday?
3:01Yeah. Oh, you claimed. I was like, I kind of...
3:04You're riding the high of the hole in one.
3:07I recovered fine. Turns out... Turns out that's kind of a delayed soreness thing that happens.
3:12Well, that makes sense. Delayed onset muscle soreness. Doms, right?
3:15When... Oh, those doms. It's a... You know, it's a true fact.
3:19Yeah. I mean, what you've never done... You never hit leg day and you're like, I'm okay.
3:24It's always two days. And then two days, you're like, I can't sit on the toilet.
3:30Yeah, but I'm... You know, go ahead. Andy's search history is just riddled with doms and rhabdomyosis right now.
3:36I might have gone to bed at like 6.30 last night.
3:39Yeah, good for you. And everything hurts. All right, into the news we go.
3:44News and notes from around the league. Lamar Jackson has a realistic chance to return to action on Sunday against the Browns.
3:51Mike... Please, Lamar. As is a flowers manager. Oh, please, Lamar.
3:54That would be nice. Jacoby Lane expected to return to practice and has a shot to play on Sunday as well, which
4:01will help Lamar at some point here. Raheem Sanders, the Browns running back who maybe had an opportunity.
4:07He's on injured reserve. Yep. So they are getting back Dylan Sampson.
4:11They brought... Yeah, they brought Audrick Estame... Estame? Audrick Estame.
4:14They stole him from the Vikings practice squad. However, the news this morning was that Dylan Sampson has been designated for return.
4:21He will practice today. I would imagine he will be...
4:24He will jump to the top of the running back room should Judkins miss time.
4:29It seems like this is very, very early on the week, but based on the injury and the timeline and all that,
4:36and the depth chart and the need, I would say he's got a legitimate chance to play this week.
4:42Dylan? Yeah. We have a report about DeAndre Swift.
4:45He's been bothered by both a hip and knee injury.
4:48I believe he had his last snap eight minutes left in the game, but the Bears were already getting whooped.
4:54So we're just monitoring DeAndre Swift and Manungay and the running backs for the Bears who have been banged up all year long.
5:02Dave Canales said Jalen Coker is on track to play in week six.
5:06All right. We like that. That's big news. And then Trey Harris, week to week with the hamstring.
5:12That sounds like he's going to be dropped to dropped for fantasy teams.
5:16Yeah. And then Zach Charbonnet has a legitimate chance to make a season debut in week seven.
5:21He is there to do one thing, ruin Emmanuel Wilson.
5:24Dude. Yeah. The Seattle running back room is there for one purpose for fantasy football.
5:29Pain. Just pain. Nothing but. I mean, walk up to the wall.
5:33Put your face to face with that wall. Kick your leg back.
5:37Throw it forward as hard as you can. That's that's Seattle running backs.
5:41I like that we couldn't get value when we had Kenneth Walker there.
5:45We couldn't get value when we had the first round Darian Price.
5:49We couldn't really even get value from a very good Charbonnet.
5:52The only time we get true fantasy value like great success.
5:56It's Emmanuel Wilson. It's like the guy who wasn't even the backup this year to start the year.
6:02That's when you get like, you know, Supreme Fantasy goodness.
6:05Yeah, that's kind of depressing. All right. We have a fun segment here before we get into the Thursday night breakdown in the mailbag.
6:13We're going to, you know what? We're five weeks in.
6:16Yeah, we are going into week six. Also, I'm tired.
6:19I know you were swinging the club, but bro, I went to bed at like nine last night.
6:25You got tired from your we were we were outside.
6:28You did sprint down. I did the entire hill.
6:31I noticed that my my whoop picked up an activity and that was sprinting.
6:35There was a lot of sitting for me on that day.
6:39But then all of a sudden I hit some sort of five strain from nine to 920.
6:44Yeah, we usually golf Wednesday mornings around here. And it was crickets in that channel.
6:49I'm everyone's dead golfing. I'm dead. Also, before we move on, as a reminder, it's a part.
6:54It's an important time of the year for this.
6:57But drop it like it's hot. Waivers go through today.
7:00Look who is dropped in your league. It's because it is nothing is more infuriating than tomorrow.
7:06Realize. Whoa, someone picked up. Wait, he was there.
7:09Yeah. Be aware. All right. Let's five weeks into the season.
7:12Let's see what would happen if we drafted today.
7:15The fantasy footballers mock draft. All right. We are going to do a little exercise here.
7:20I mean, this is sort of a rest of season ranking situation for trades and things like that.
7:26A little bit. Yeah. We're going to draft two rounds worth of players rotating.
7:30Mike, Jason, Andy. We'll go clockwise here. Mike, you get the first pick.
7:35Thank goodness. If fantasy drafts happen today. I don't want to be at that two spot.
7:40Yeah. I do. Let's see what would happen because things have changed for a lot of players.
7:45Some, some are right where they belong. Mike, who's your number one pick?
7:49Uh, Jameer Gibbs will be, uh, he's from the Detroit lions.
7:53Oh, running back. He does play the running back position.
7:56I mean, for all of the chaos that has gone wrong as it always does, at least the guys at the top
8:03are still going to be the top draft picks that I mean, I feel like we're going to be the top of
8:10this episode a lot and you're like, well, the one Oh two, maybe we draft him in the second round.
8:16So I will take Jameer Gibbs. All right. That leaves Jason with the number two overall pick here and our fantasy draft redo.
8:24Gibbs goes number one. Yeah. This is, uh, this is where it would usually be B.
8:29John. And I, and I don't mind it being B.
8:32John. We had, uh, some discussion yesterday. I I'm going to give the edge to Kenneth Walker due to having one extra game.
8:39I mean, at this point, first of all, he is scoring.
8:43He's scoring more fantasy points than B. John. He's scoring like significantly more on a per game basis.
8:49And B. John has been amazing, but he's also got a guaranteed another game.
8:53You don't have to deal with a bi-week and that's, that's good enough tiebreaker for me.
8:58The question was basically posed. Would you trade B.
9:01John for Kenneth Walker straight up? Now that you're, you're past a bi-week I would.
9:06And that's that, that's feels crazy, but yeah, here we are.
9:09Yeah. I mean, it's not crazy to me. All right.
9:12True believers. Oh, Mr. I don't want the second pick.
9:16I don't want to have to say it. Well, I think I'm going to surprise you.
9:21I'm not going B. John at three. Oh, I've seen enough.
9:24He seems fine. And the chance that you win a title with him, I think it's higher than B.
9:30John. I'm taking, I'm taking Puka Nakua. Wow. Whoa.
9:33Okay. I'm taking Puka Nakua at three. Okay. Cause I want to have the conversation.
9:38Wow. Um, he's like, yeah, I mean, he's, this is where it's extremely high, but you know, wait, so you have gone
9:45now from, you were the, by far the most concerned about the pre-hernia.
9:49Yeah. Yeah. And I'm, I don't, he's still going to be pre-hernia.
9:53He is for the rest of the season. Pre-hernia.
9:56Uh, massive risk of hernia. Yeah. I mean, I think he's going to be the number one wide receiver rest of the season if he doesn't get hurt.
10:05And that's what it comes down to. And I think the difference, it's going to be massive.
10:10So, uh, you play to win the game. Sure.
10:13You know, you're taking the, so I, I understand that JSN per game has scored more.
10:18We haven't seen Puka for more than a couple of games here, but I think that this is the reason Puka was
10:25ahead of JSN for me preseason and 24 targets later, this last game, I I'm convinced that he will be a difference maker of a different degree.
10:34So I like, you're splitting hairs between, I think him, JSN and, and Bison here.
10:39Um, and I don't blame anybody, whatever order they want to put them in.
10:43Yeah. Either you have the riskiest player with Puka, but have you seen anything wrong with him in the last two weeks?
10:50No, no. I mean, I don't think you'll, you won't see it.
10:54It'll just be gone, but I'm with you. I'm like, I'm playing to win a championship right now.
11:00So I don't mind that at all. Mike, you're back on the board.
11:04I'll take Bijan though. Yeah. You'll go Bijan at number four.
11:07Yeah. So no thought of JSN is 24 points.
11:10No, no, not compared to Bijan Robinson. Not the, the running back.
11:14I should say the superstar three down Brian Robinson, touchdown stealing.
11:17It is. So points per game wise right now, just so people understand Jameer gives us at 28 a game.
11:24Ken Walker's at 26. Uh, Puka Nakua has played two games.
11:27He's at, or three games. He's at 20.8. JSN is at 24.
11:31So JSN is scoring a couple of points more per game than Bijan Bijan at a tougher spot to find players.
11:38So, um, Jason, you are back on the clock.
11:41I'm back on the clock and it's, it's pretty easy.
11:44It's funny because, um, you know, this, this is one like we, we love JSN, but I had JSN behind Amon Ra,
11:51um, and behind the Puka Jamar chase to start the year.
11:54All of them. Awesome. Wanted all of them, but that would have been my, my order.
12:00And, um, because everything went perfect for JSN last year.
12:03It, you know, he, he had so many receptions and so many yards per reception, so many touchdowns.
12:09The efficiency just was kind of impossible to repeat, but emphasis on the kind of, cause he's repeating it.
12:15Um, I would have taken them over Puka. I would have gone Bijan then Puka or Bijan then JSN before Puka.
12:21Obviously they're all great at the top, but, uh, the, the question has been answered.
12:26You're taking JSN? Yeah. JSN is absolutely outrageously good.
12:29And the question being, can he do it again?
12:32The question being, can he repeat it? Can, can he, you know, is, is that really all him or was it a magical season?
12:39It was all him at the sixth pick. I'm actually going to pull the trigger on the running back seven right now.
12:46Oh, it's a tight and close to decision between Jonathan Taylor and James Cook for me as the next best running back on the board.
12:54I know Derek Henry's ahead right now. Kyron's ahead.
12:57Shuba's ahead. I'm taking Jonathan Taylor at pick six in the draft.
13:01I actually think it's a semi good buy opportunity on Jonathan Taylor.
13:05He had a couple of like downish games relative to his standard because we have questioned kind of what is this offense going to be able to do?
13:14Uh, he was RB 25 this week, 15 for 43.
13:17Didn't get into the end zone, which is rare.
13:20He's a touchdown monster. So I'm going to take Jonathan Taylor to compliment my Puka at number three.
13:26Mike, you are back on the clock with pick seven on our fantasy draft redo.
13:30So I'm able to continue following my personal list.
13:33Um, and despite the accusations, uh, from a head coach of punishment, possible punishment for fumbling, you're really going to reduce the workload for James Cook?
13:42No way. You're Joe Joseph. No, Joseph. No, you're not.
13:45Come on. I know you. You know that I know you get out of here.
13:50James Cook. James Cook at seven to Mike. Which I have, I have Cook above Taylor.
13:55I, I totally get the, the rationale. If you want Johnny Taylor, that, that is fine.
14:00But James Cook is just, he will be him and Josh Allen.
14:04What's wild here is that through seven picks, there's really just one name that wasn't in the original six or seven names.
14:11And that's Kenneth Walker. Like Kenneth Walker was a few clicks down probably, you know, anywhere from eight to 15 in drafts.
14:18But these other names, Gibbs, Walker, Puka, B. Yeah.
14:21JSN Taylor cook. That's that's, you know, the first time our blessings here.
14:25First round is five weeks. Okay. It's worked pretty well because people haven't been injured.
14:29And, and the first round is they're all awesome.
14:32Um, I'm back up on the clock here. You've got great options at all positions.
14:37I think right now there's still two, uh, wide receivers that are ahead of the bunch.
14:42The question is Jamar Chase or Amin Ra to me, love both of them.
14:47I still think that the highest upside and honestly, every single week, this dude is just making an unbelievable, like catch of the year style, uh, reception.
14:55I'm going to stick with Jamar Chase and the Bengals offense.
14:59I know the Bengals defense has gotten better. Their offense has gotten off to a slightly slower start than we, but that's exactly right.
15:06They're off to the Bengals start. They, they are a offensive second half team.
15:11You know, when, when, uh, they went nuclear a couple of years ago, it was really, they still were off to a slow start that year.
15:19So Jamar Chase is the pick. Yes. That sucks.
15:22I kind of, I was hoping maybe somehow, some way Jamar Chase would end up in my hands there.
15:28I think, I think this is where it'd be more interesting to have this discussion.
15:33I'm not settled on this pick. I think Amin Ra's into consideration.
15:37I think Derek Henry, who's normally a strong finisher, who's right now the RB four is in consideration, but I want to
15:44have, I'm just going to speak openly about it.
15:47I need to. There's two actually. I know exactly.
15:50Can I say who you're going to say? Yes.
15:52You're going to ask where do Brock Bowers and Josh Allen belong?
15:56Yes. Because it is a fully legitimate question. I know that there is, you know, it's a onesie position.
16:02You lose depth. There is downside to taking those onesies over great players, but there are not other Bowers and Josh Allen's out there.
16:10Josh Allen. It, I would personally lean to the Brock Bowers over Josh Allen side simply because replacing a tight end late
16:17is very difficult to do with, with being able to actually get a lot of points.
16:22You're kind of just hoping for a touchdown at seven or eight points when you're actually in your matchup.
16:28Whereas replacing a quarterback by no means can you replace a Josh Allen level quarterback, but I can, I can wield my
16:35way even off of a waiver wire to, to a 20, 23 point game.
16:40Um, so I just for context, Allen is five points ahead of the next closest quarterback right now in points per game.
16:47And Brock, who's just been back for a couple of weeks is averaging 19.7 points per game and has looked ridiculous.
16:53It's basically six points ahead of the tight end too.
16:57This was, I felt stupid to start the year when he got injured and all of that, but this was preseason.
17:03I thought Brock Bowers is one of the only guys that is truly a game breaker, like break the system and all time.
17:11Are you worried about what I'm worried about though?
17:13Mendoza is the end of season playoffs Mendoza taking over and then being in a position where pure passing volume is not
17:20going to be where it is right now. So Mendoza is, um, I think a worthy worry because it should probably happen.
17:27I know that the Raiders have had a great start to the season, but at some point, if they lose a bunch
17:34of games in a row, they, they very well might turn to Mendoza this year.
17:39And that would be near the fantasy playoffs, but Mendoza is not a bad quarterback and Brock Bowers is too good.
17:46He's going to be schemed as the number one.
17:49I'm not that worried. He's played with, he's played with a bunch of crappy quarterbacks and been awesome and been, you know,
17:56tight end one on a per game basis. So, um, I think he's worthy of being picked very soon.
18:02Yeah. I personally, I wouldn't like go over Amon raw.
18:05Who's just, I was going to say, I, after all that discussion, I'm going to take Amon Ross St.
18:11Brown at number nine, uh, the offense for the lions, the best they've ever been through five weeks in history.
18:18So I will take Amon Ross and you know, but I think that, I think that those other guys are going to be drafted very soon.
18:26And that wasn't necessarily the case in the first early second before the season began.
18:31But you know, Josh Allen has just been ridiculous.
18:33Just ran for 120 yards or whatever it was.
18:36So, uh, Mike, you're back on the clock. So I just want my contribution when you guys are talking about the, uh,
18:43the tight end position and why it's not Bowers for me right here.
18:48Uh, you guys, so last year or, uh, yeah.
18:50So last year, 2025, 126 receptions for Trey McBride all time.
18:54That's the all time record. You understand what the pace is right now for Trey McBride.
18:59I don't 143 receptions and 10 touchdowns. The yardage is not the same.
19:03No, the yardage is, the yardage is, is a couple hundred or like 150 yards lower.
19:08But the point is yeah, I make bright. If you're talking PBR points, we're, we're juicing.
19:13I was never in the camp that McBride can't do what he did last year, even though I know the passing.
19:20Which is the all time record. Well, now they're number one wide receivers gone.
19:25No more Marv competition. Yeah. That that's a good point.
19:28Mike, uh, you are on the clock. I'm going to give you an extra second to think about it.
19:34We'll take a break and you can come back with pick 10.
19:38And we're back. Uh, I am still on the clock here for our rest of season or up.
19:43I mean, it's kind of rest of season, but it is a fantasy draft redo.
19:48We're doing the first two rounds and boy. Oh boy.
19:51Like I think the, the, the running back decision here is, is tough.
19:55Cause Kyron is looking great. His utilization, especially in the receiving game.
19:59We're feeling excellent about that. But the Ravens offense, like we haven't fully seen the, like we don't have five games of
20:06Lamar Jackson playing the entirety of, or is a flowers?
20:09Or that's what I'm like. We haven't, the, the, the mega, the mega Zord has not completed right now.
20:16It's like the pieces are, are on their own.
20:18Is Mark Andrews a piece of the mega Zord?
20:21Oh, like the feet, the toe and neck. Yeah.
20:24I don't know. Pinky toe. He's not cause you need your pinky and you need your big toe.
20:30The middle toe. I'm not sure how important that is.
20:33I'm, I'm taking Henry. I don't blame you on Derek Henry here.
20:37Cause he does. He just, he only gets better.
20:40And I'm very, very excited. I'm very bullish on what's going on with the Ravens offense with Jacoby Lane coming back.
20:46I do think it's a pretty big deal. Well, and, and really it's, it's the, it's the three pack.
20:53I mean, it's, it's when Zay flowers is healthy and Lamar Jackson is healthy and Derek Henry, who's always healthy.
20:59We were playing rock, paper, scissors. Who are you going to do?
21:03Three or how? I mean, we saw it right.
21:06To start the season week one, Derek Henry was the number one running back.
21:10He was out the 24 carries 144 yards and three touchdowns.
21:14Granted it was the Colts. Um, but yeah, I don't, I don't blame you taking Derek Henry there because I do think,
21:21and he only gets stronger as the season goes on.
21:24Right. As the weather gets colder. Dude. And you would do it like, it's not a lot, but we have finally have
21:31a, an offensive coordinator who's like every now and then I wonder what would happen if we threw a screen pass to
21:38the locomotive and stimulus, just find out what happens.
21:41He has a lot of space. He has caught eight of his nine targets.
21:45Like I said, it's not a lot. However, eight receptions.
21:48He was at 15 for in 17 games last year.
21:52So like we're, we're going to surpass that. We've always said every now and then a little more every now and then
21:59one of those receptions turns into like a 60 yard touchdown.
22:02So that, that, that little, every now and then I'm like 10% of the time, little, a little seasoning on the top
22:09of what Henry's going to do on the ground.
22:12Yeah. I'm, I'm pretty excited. I like that. I think that's absolutely worthy pick there.
22:17I mean, he's, he's right behind Bijan in points per game right now.
22:21And that's including, you know, a game missed with, you know, with injury with Lamar.
22:26Uh, for me, this is the spot I, I would, I would consider CD lamb here.
22:31Um, obviously I love Kyron. He is every bit worthy of this pick, but I do genuinely think that Brock Bowers is
22:38such a, such a gap and a difference that you cannot replicate somewhere.
22:42Even the, even the crazy pace you're talking about.
22:45Um, you know, with, with Trey McBride in a full PPR league, McBride is averaging 18.2 fantasy points, which is outrageously high for a, for a tight end.
22:5423.7. I mean, you're talking five points more than sec than on, than an all time.
22:59Yeah. Bowers three games. If you, if you map the Mount, like way Mike did, he's at 136 receptions.
23:05He's at 1,768 yards. And 7, oh, that's significantly higher than, than no, he's, he is a different level NFL player.
23:12They just, they, what you want to see from a tight end, that's going to be special and different is downfield targets
23:19like a wide receiver all the time. And he's lining up in line and in the slot and running down the field
23:26and getting open and you know, 20 yards down the field.
23:29It's not just turnarounds and screens and stuff like that.
23:32He is their primary. He's a wide receiver. He is.
23:36He's the wide receiver one. Now I would have taken Allen over him.
23:40So this works out for me. I'm taking Josh Allen.
23:43One last point of that is I would say the quarterback change for the Cardinals will happen.
23:48We don't know when they're going to remove head from Derriere and just be like, we got to, we got to find
23:55out what's going on for next year, but it will, it will happen.
23:59Mendoza. Probably. It probably happens. I'm far less concerned about Bowers with him.
24:04And even though he's a rookie, Bowers just gets it done with everybody.
24:08Trey McBride has had other quarterbacks and it was good, but it was not what Jacoby has done.
24:13It's different now though. I mean, the Cardinals wide receiver room has changed over the years.
24:19And I think both guys are not like, I wouldn't run from them with Beck and Mendoza coming in at some point.
24:26Yeah. I agree that Bowers, I have on a different tier.
24:29Yeah. They're going to be, I mean, I think, I think Bowers, I mean, Trey McBride is amazing.
24:35This is not an anti Trey McBride take, but I think that Bowers is as a, as a tight end as an
24:42athlete, he's just, he is better than Trey McBride.
24:45And that's how I feel about Mendoza is just a better quarterback than Carson Beck.
24:50Obviously the number one overall pick versus a third rounder.
24:53I'm taking Josh Allen right now, Josh Allen. If you want to hear the pace, it's kind of comedic, but it's five games.
25:00I mean, it's 4,200 passing yards. That's amazing. It's 24 passing touchdowns.
25:04That's great for a mobile quarterback. It's 812 rushing yards.
25:07It's 27 rushing touchdowns. No, it's not. It is.
25:10No, it's not. So that doesn't make sense, but yeah, that's like on pace for basically, what is that?
25:16That's 50 touchdowns. He is having another special season for fantasy purposes and his rushing touchdowns in five games, two, two, two, one, one.
25:24He doesn't even have a DJ more right now.
25:27Guys like when DJ more will help. He, he's, he's a very, very good player who showed out before he got banged up.
25:34I Keon Coleman seems competent at this point and Joe Brady taking over the offense again.
25:39It's, it's a lot like Declan Doyle in Baltimore.
25:42There's a level of kind of, I know Joe Brady was offensive coordinator.
25:46Yeah. It's different though. When you're the, you get to be the head honcho.
25:50Yeah. The philosophically they're leaning into their strengths more.
25:53I watched this highlight. Did you see a, if you watch the final drive of the bills game where they did drive
26:00down and kick the field goal, Josh Allen, just straight up changed place to where no one else knew on their own team.
26:08Like he made a decision on a run. And James cook was supposed to go off right, right tackle.
26:14You can see Allen at the line of scrimmage realize when he motions the guy over the left side is completely open.
26:21He pulls the ball in. Nobody else on the team knows this is happening and chooses to run up the left sideline by himself.
26:28He called his own number, like four times on that drive ran for like 60 yards on the drive, won the game.
26:35And it's just, I mean, he had 10 carries for one 21 in that game.
26:40Josh Allen keeps popping up on this show. Yeah.
26:43Like I still firmly believe in the strategy of you don't want to use your draft capital on quarterbacks.
26:49Cause you're, when you do that, you're betting on magic.
26:52You are better on absolute magical season. And Josh Allen is just the pixie dust never wears off.
26:58Apparently it's, it's cause we keep showing up in our fantasy and our, in our draft redos.
27:04I feel like Josh Allen would be the consistent name who keeps jumping into the top two.
27:09Well, we, uh, we, we talked about this preseason during the draft season.
27:13Josh Allen, the last like five years has been over 50% of no.
27:17And he's been drafted to different spots. He's been a second rounder.
27:21He's been a six rounder. He has basically gotten the majority of people who have him into the playoffs on all formats.
27:28So he's never been a bad pick. He is outside of, you know, his rookie and sophomore year.
27:34He's never been a bad pick. And here we are first round done.
27:38Four of these players are on Andy's super team.
27:41Ha, uh, disgusting. And, and yes, I, I know you could say it when it happens.
27:46Mike, you're on the clock. Uh, Jameer Gibbs, Kenneth Walker, Puka Nakua, B.
27:50Sean Robinson, J.S. Jonathan Taylor, James Cook, Jamar Chase.
27:53I'm on Ross St. Brown, Derek Henry, Brock Bowers, Josh Allen.
27:56Second round begins now, Mike. Who you got? So if you're looking at the wide receivers in terms of just who are left in points per game.
28:05Oh, who's that? There's a guy at the top there.
28:08Christian Watson. Oh, would you really take Christian Watson over?
28:11No, I'm not. I'm not going to. I just wanted to point it out that like he is definitely in the discussion in this round.
28:19Um, but I was, I was very close between Henry and Kyron.
28:23So with Kyron still being there points per game is very similar and I don't see it stopping for Kyron.
28:30So I'm going to take him here. I feel very, very confident in Kyron as my running back one.
28:36I love that. I thought you were going to take a different player, but I do love the, I mean, Kyron deserves the respect.
28:43He, he is really, really good. They paid him a lot of money.
28:47He's always been a running back one in fantasy and he's never ever gotten the respect.
28:53It's always like, I don't believe it. It's going to be a timeshare.
28:57Um, I will do it now, Andy. I will take your fifth player.
29:01Oh, CD lamb. I have five of the top 14 on my team.
29:05Yeah. That's crazy. It is. No, I think the word you're looking for is disgusting.
29:10Hmm. CD lamb at 14. CD lamb at 14.
29:13I do. I think that this is a player who is still every bit in his prime.
29:18We saw that with the crazy game of, you know, 20 targets a couple of games ago.
29:24Uh, the Dallas defense is as bad as it was last year.
29:27Their offense has looked, uh, I mean, there, there's still a great offense, you know, even in the, the nuclear year, uh,
29:34several years ago when CD lamb was the number one wide receiver, you always are going to have some down games.
29:41Uh, CD lamb can have games like, you know, JSN, like Puka, like CD lamb.
29:46Um, he can have games like himself. Yeah. No, I'm taking Christian McCaffrey at this.
29:51Yes. Okay. That's who I thought Mike would take over at the 15.
29:55Like it hasn't been, I don't know. It's wild.
29:58They're, they're, they're undefeated. He scored in every game except for one.
30:01He's playing the vast majority of snaps except when he had cramps.
30:05Uh, but, but you also are not, you know, this is what we saw a little bit of last year.
30:12He's not giving you big place. You don't get the breakaway runs.
30:16You don't get the monstrous place. Um, but I mean, let's just look for, for a moment.
30:21Here's the reception. He's on pace. So here's problem one.
30:24He's on pace for 972 rushing yards. Yeah. That's in a 17 game season.
30:29That's very low. Well, because the rushing attempt was 200.
30:32Oh, last year he did get to 1200. Yeah.
30:35That's what I'm saying. That's a pretty big deal.
30:38Like 207 attempts. That's lower than you'd expect. 972 rushing yards.
30:41That's lower than you'd expect. Touchdowns are fine up at 17.
30:45Catches 64. A little lower. Yeah. He's been at the 80, 90 range.
30:49So. And what's the receiving yard pace? Just 465.
30:52That's, that's lower. They're all lower, but they're all, when you put them all together, they're very good.
30:57His longest play of the year is 16 yards in five weeks.
31:01So that's not necessarily like that is a declining, but still hyper valuable player.
31:06I love the fact that you get a running back on a winning team.
31:10And maybe there's some management here going on in terms of like the playoff run.
31:15So I'll take, I mean, McCaffrey at 15 feels like a value.
31:19It definitely does. It definitely does. And it's, it's just, it's the receptions with five weeks and wide receivers just, just plummeting off of their depth chart.
31:27I was pretty surprised to see what he's three receptions the last two weeks.
31:32Yeah. Three, three, four. That's his past three weeks.
31:35I just, it's a little, it's a little off, but they have no receivers.
31:39So it's a little weird that that's not even more.
31:42That's what I'm saying. But to take him here is good.
31:46Brock Purdy is the number two quarterback right now.
31:49So like it's, it's, they're five and Oh, and Brock Purdy is the number two quarterback.
31:54And Christian McCaffrey is currently the running back 11.
31:57Mike Evans getting them touchdowns away from McCaffrey. Yeah, he is.
32:00All right. 17 is not enough for you. Receiving touchdowns.
32:03Mike, I'm taking Zay Flowers. Yeah. That's who I, that's probably who I would have taken.
32:08I'm taking Zay Flowers. So that's Zay just, I don't disagree at all, but that's Zay over Watson.
32:14That's Zay over Nico, over Justin Jefferson. Yep. Over Chris Olave.
32:18Olave is, man, he's, he's going to be picked very soon.
32:21Yeah. He might be picked right here. You're talking about Olave.
32:25Yeah. I mean, Justin Jefferson is an interesting conversation because you know, when, when he was drafted in the first round, it
32:32was like, we're forgiving the bad quarterback play. He comes out to start the year and it's like, dude, he should have been higher.
32:39He should have been higher in the first round.
32:42He's he is him. And now Kyler's back. It's like, oh man, like if Carson Wentz was his quarterback, where would Justin?
32:49We got 79 with a touchdown. It's not bad.
32:52Jefferson will be picked before the end of this round.
32:55Yes. Yes. It is. But like to say, to say like, should I take Nico or Chris Olave or Justin Jefferson is
33:02not what you were saying before the season. I, you know, I, I think that that's, and it's a worthy conversation and
33:09I'm going to take, I'm going to take the, I'm going to take Chris Olave.
33:14I, I really believe he is a dominant wide receiver on a fast paced team that gets extra plays because of Kellen Moore system.
33:22Um, Shuck looks like the real deal, obviously down week this last week, but we all saw kind of, this wasn't like,
33:29oh no, he just, this was the Minnesota. It's like, no one played shock.
33:33You had to play Olave. You had to be really desperate to do it.
33:38Right. Cause it's that Minnesota defense. Um, I don't think that's the norm.
33:42I think that the previous four games were the norm.
33:45So yeah, I'll pull the trigger on Olave. Give me Trey McBride.
33:49Give me Trey McBride here. Uh, you get him.
33:52I mean, him and Bowers took discussion before the season.
33:55They were very close together. They were both, you know, more second round range, but give me McBride at 18 overall.
34:02I, what, where was his ADP relative to where he was just down pick lower?
34:06He was, uh, I want to say he was third.
34:10You, I feel like you could get Bowers in the second and McBride in the third.
34:15So both great values. Yeah. It's funny looking at the landscape here.
34:19Obviously Jefferson is in consideration. You've got running backs like Swift and Jente.
34:23Um, Chase Brown was off the board a lot in a lot of leagues by here.
34:28I thought about it, but it's been slower for him.
34:31But I think McBride, you just look at, it's funny cause you shift five weeks into the season.
34:37And I look at more, less aspirational, more guaranteed.
34:40Yeah. What is the guaranteed production of these players and almost everybody taken here?
34:44I don't see an aspirational situation. There's nobody that's like, what if he breaks out at this point?
34:50It's all, what have you done for me lately?
34:53What will you do for me in the future?
34:56How do I guarantee production? So Trey McBride stands out in that capacity.
35:00Whereas, you know, Chase Brown, uh, you know, it could, it could ramp up the way you were talking about chase and
35:07the offense, but it's been slower than I expected.
35:10I am. I'm, I'm moderately concerned about what's going on with chase Brown.
35:14They've been involving P Ryan more and his past week, doing well with it.
35:18And then the comments coming out about, we're going to take a look and at the, at the running game there, there has been, I will say this.
35:27I was, I'm, I'm not worried about that. Yeah.
35:30I'm not very worried and I will probably be taking him if he gets to my next pick.
35:36But from a dynasty perspective, he is, he's in the last year of his contract and we expected kind of an extension to come.
35:43If this year doesn't go well, this now worries me for his value.
35:48Like if, if he's not a, a, a by himself bangle, the way he's been the last two years, his fantasy value is nothing.
35:55I mean, by comparison to what it's been the last two.
35:59All right. Pick 19, Mike. All right. Here's where we're going to take Christian Watson, everybody.
36:04Okay. This is, I mean, look three top 10 weeks jump, three top 10 weeks already under his belt.
36:10It's hard to argue with him when you look at the other names you could select what I, I mean, what I
36:17just, yeah, I'd rather have him than Jefferson. But Nico is one.
36:21I think I was between Nico and Christian Watson, Nico up far more proven both are injury risks.
36:26It feels like it. Um, I don't know what the Texas schedule is, but I just know that Dallas, Detroit, Carolina and
36:33the Patriots are the next four weeks for Christian Watson.
36:37So I think that in a month from now, it might be like, well, shoot, we should have moved Christian Watson into the first round.
36:45Yeah, no, I, I, uh, I think you found the right spot for him here in the redrafts.
36:50I don't blame you at all. Jason, you're back on the clock here.
36:55Pick 20, five picks left in the draft. I wish I was three picks later.
36:59Well, you don't want to make decisions. Um, no, because the guy that I want to, the guy that I want to take here feels a little hot.
37:08Um, and, and Nico, not taking Nico, not taking Justin Jefferson feels like, okay, that's crazy.
37:13But I'm like, who would I re who would I really, really want my team?
37:18Um, I'm, and it's really, it's not even Jefferson.
37:21It's between Nico and this guy, but I, I believe the Parker Washington break.
37:25Um, I know we had the down game. I think, I think Parker Washington's basically a top 10 wide receiver.
37:32Uh, so I'm, I'm going to pull the trigger Parker.
37:35Yeah. I, I mean, I, I can see that it's an interesting situation there.
37:40I, I have no problem with it. Uh, I'll go Nico Collins.
37:43Yeah. I'll take Nico Collins next. Feels like a value.
37:47I'm very impressed with, with Stroud. Um, I think that it's just going to get better when you have your sacrificial X arriving.
37:54Uh, but no, I mean, I'll, I'll take, uh, I'll take Nico here at 21.
37:59I love that. Now names, just so I, I'm going to just flag some names.
38:03Three. He's got one pick left. One pick left names that haven't come off the board.
38:09Ashton Jinty yet to be drafted. Um, I think that's the him and chase Brown are the standout names running back and Javante Williams deserves.
38:17I agree. Then Justin Jefferson at wide receiver, obviously.
38:19But then you've got like Devante Adams has been dominant.
38:23Tedderola McMillan, Garrett Wilson, Mike Evans. Like those are some names to mention.
38:27And then, you know, I'll just be honest before I'm on the clock.
38:31I truly believe I'm looking at who's leading the way at quarterback and pick 24 seems like a spot where I would take Lamar Jackson.
38:39Yeah. Um, I think, I think Mike is right.
38:42We have not seen the full mega Zord, the full, you know, uh, the, the, the glove of Thanos has not been filled with every jewel.
38:50Right. Um, but I think you look at who's there.
38:53Do I think Brock Purdy is going to be two at the end of the year?
38:58Do I think Jared golf Bryce young? No, I think Caleb could come back and be involved in the discussion, but you know, Jane Daniels, Mahomes burrow.
39:07Look, Lamar, I think has the best potential of all the remaining quarterback names to be a standout difference among the other guys.
39:14Now he needs to be healthy. So I don't like him coming back from an injury.
39:19That's like an ankle that may limit his work.
39:22Yeah. But that, those are some of the names I'll throw out there and there, there could be more.
39:28All right. Uh, before I take my pick, I do need to, I say, I do need to apologize to all the Marvel people out there.
39:37Uh, it's, I'm proud of the fact I mispronounced it.
39:40If I'm honest, you know how I feel about these movies.
39:43That's a weird thing to be proud of. It's, it's doubled down or be wrong.
39:48Yeah. You know, it's like one of the movies that just made, well, I don't know.
39:53It was at the highest gross. Are we back?
39:56Are we back at the highest grossing film of all time?
40:00I don't know. I will say this. Being anti-Marvel is fine because there are, there are plenty of, of, you know, Marvel's.
40:07They're not perfect. They're not, they're not all great, but being anti the, uh, No, that movie was great.
40:13In-game, Infinity Wars, Combo, that's crazy. No, I mean, how many movies are there?
40:17How many Marvel? 823. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think, uh, there are some standouts.
40:22I love Guardians of the Galaxy. The first one.
40:25We're about to be so back in December, brother.
40:28We are so back. Oh yeah, you think so?
40:30We are so back. I thought some people like previewed that and it was like, people weren't receiving it.
40:37I haven't heard any, anything good or bad, but there are currently 38 released films.
40:41That's about 35 of them are pretty bad to me, for me.
40:45Oh, get out of here. This is nonsense. Well, so if you're on the highest grossing, if that's what makes the day for you, Mike.
40:53So like Avatar is two of the highest for grossing ever.
40:57Avatar one. That has to be international. Yes. They all are.
41:00Avatar one was awesome. Dude, with the 3D glasses.
41:03Yeah. It was. Avatar, the, the, the plot has been lost.
41:07Well, I mean, listen, we found out yesterday. Baywatch is the single highest watch show of all.
41:12Apparently there was 1.1 billion per week in its peak.
41:15The original Baywatch. I was blown away by this.
41:18It's, it's statistically the most popular show of all time.
41:21Yeah. Cause it's cause those things went international. Like all of these go a little international to be great, but like Baywatch was monumentally international.
41:29I mean, there's a reason why like David Hasselhoff is now King of Germany.
41:34There's people listening to our show right now who are like, what is Baywatch?
41:38Right here. Cause they're, cause they're mostly in the U S.
41:42No, Baywatch was popular here. By the way, Avengers in game 69.3% of its global earnings were, um, international.
41:48International. Yeah. That makes sense. So I mean, like, what was the percent of Avatar?
41:52No, I'm just curious. Oh no. The world loved this movie.
41:56I don't, it's not my point. This is just good information.
41:59Jason was making the point that international is what drives all the numbers of them.
42:04Like it also drove that up. No, I'm saying Baywatch and, and Avatar specifically.
42:09I'm curious. What was Avatar? Especially the second one, because the first one was huge here.
42:14Yes. I don't remember the second one being that big.
42:17It's like top five. Yeah. 71 to 73% of Avonars, Avatars revenue is international.
42:21It was, it was a gigantic movie. And it's the same for all of them.
42:26Yeah. From, from the first to the second to the third.
42:30But, um, what in the world are we talking about?
42:33Mike. We're talking about fantasy football. Final pick for Mike.
42:36Final pick for Jason and myself. Um, man, make the, make the call.
42:40I gave you enough. Uh, yeah, this one. Well, I was thinking about Marvel.
42:45Yeah. This one is tough. Lamar's in play. Um, at the running back position, Javante is in play, even though it's still a little disgusting a little bit.
42:54The fact that Deandre Swift is banged up right now.
42:57Don't love that. Or he would, he'd be in consideration for me.
43:01I'm very in on Swift. Um, and then wide receivers.
43:04It's between two. It's between Ted a role, McMillan and Garrett Wilson for me.
43:08Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think they belong there.
43:11I'll just, I'll, I'm going to go Ted a row.
43:14All right. I'll take a role. McMillan, Mike at 22.
43:18Jason, you're on the clock at 23. Uh, um, all right.
43:21I'm between chase Brown, Justin Jefferson and Garrett Wilson.
43:24I, I think I would take Jeff Jefferson over Garrett Wilson by one spot and running back scarcity.
43:30I'll take Justin Jefferson. Yeah. It's the right call.
43:33I probably should have taken him over. I'll take Ashton Jinty at 24.
43:37Oh, that one I would not do. Yeah. I mean, Ashton Jinty, even with the, I mean, he's sitting here at 13
43:44right now at running back, but he's been banged up the workload.
43:48He's going to be banged up all year. It's possible.
43:51But, um, I mean, even, even looking at that, he's on pace for 75 catches, 299 attempts.
43:56Um, he hasn't had a rushing touchdown on the ground.
43:59I mean, the, the, the numbers for Jinty based on workload, you got to look at what's going to happen based on percentages.
44:07That workload is, is better than anybody else that we're going to get, um, between the receiving and running.
44:13Nobody's going to get the workload that Jinty will get rest of season.
44:17That's probably true. So I'm going to lean on that.
44:20But the final 12 here, Kyron Seedy, CMC, Zay Flowers, Crystal Lave, Trey McBride, Christian Watson, Parker Washington, Nico, Tett McMillan, Justin
44:27Jefferson, and Jinty guys that kind of dropped out that were up in that group.
44:32Chase Brown, Omarion Hampton, uh, were in that group.
44:35I feel like maybe Jake London got forgotten about.
44:38Yeah. I think there's a chance that Jake London got forgotten about.
44:41That's very, very fair. Jake London definitely got forgotten about.
44:45Yeah. He's in my, he's in my list here.
44:48Yeah. And Malik neighbors maybe. I think maybe those.
44:50Those. Can we redo the redo? Oh my gosh.
44:53I, Drake London. How did he just get forgotten?
44:56I don't know. I just noticed it. Oh my God.
44:59I mean, I would have taken Jefferson. I would have taken Drake London.
45:04I would have taken London over McMillan for sure.
45:06I mean Parker. Would you have taken Drake London over Zay Flowers?
45:10Yes. I would. I would have taken him right after CeeDee Lamb for me.
45:15I don't, how did that happen? No, you took Olave instead.
45:18These things happen. Wow. So there's too many lists.
45:21I mean, we're doing it live. Too many. Let's take a break and we'll jump into the mailbag.
45:27And by mailbag, I mean breaking down the Thursday night game.
45:30Thursday night breakdown. The Seattle Seahawks at three and two take on the three and two Denver Broncos in Denver Seahawks minus
45:37two and a half over under a whopping 40.5.
45:40And you kind of understand it. Um, two defenses that are pretty good.
45:44Right game for Bo Nix. Am I right? No, you're wrong.
45:48Uh, Bo Nix 21st in passing yards, 23rd in passing touchdowns, has three picks.
45:52Um, the film is bad. I, sometimes it's just the stats and a guy's playing.
45:57Well, I don't think Bo Nix is playing very well.
46:00And you have two different play callers right now.
46:03Sean Payton took over and it didn't look any better.
46:06And the salve does not feel like the Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl champions coming to town.
46:11I can tell you, I'm playing my Seahawks D this week.
46:15Yeah. I feel very comfortable, uh, starting them. They're seventh against quarterbacks, third against wideouts, ninth against tight ends.
46:21You'll see more JK Dobbins this week. It was a good week opportunity wise for him.
46:26He would be your, um, your one potential play.
46:29I think. I think so based off of there, a lot was made about, uh, play calling shifting back to Sean Payton.
46:36Yeah. It shifted away from RJ Harvey. And then we got a heavy dose of JK Dobbins.
46:41Wasn't as he's, he is clearly hurt too. I mean, of course he's JK Dobbins, but just word.
46:47The juice is not there. Like a healthy JK Dobbins is a, is a fantastic.
46:52So we do start him this week. And by the way, Jalen Waddle is one of the most popular start sits on the website.
47:00Because the questions that, I mean, they're not, it's not like Jalen Waddle or Drake London is Jalen Waddle or Jeremy Bernard.
47:07No, the, I'm okay with Dobbins because of just the, the running back streets are always tough.
47:12But other than that, I'm taking my stance that I threw out on a Monday or Tuesday of just, I'm not playing Broncos.
47:19I'm not playing Broncos. I'm not playing Chargers. I would not be trying to play Jalen Waddle at all.
47:25You've had one out of five games that you've been happy with.
47:29There are a lot of players out there that I would much rather put in there.
47:34I mean, Trey Tucker is a great play this week.
47:38Oh, this is a disaster. Yeah. It's, it is.
47:40It's, it is a disaster. What are we doing?
47:43I will say this. I mean, this is not a player that you can drop.
47:48I would not drop Waddle. We, we talked a lot about how difficult the schedule is.
47:53This is part of why I'm not playing. Offensive mastermind.
47:56If, if, if the training goes for him, if the Broncos were playing the Dallas Cowboys or the Detroit Lions right now,
48:03I would be like, you must start Jalen Waddle.
48:06I know he's been bad. This is, he's been bad and he's playing against the Seahawks.
48:11Um, it does open up a little bit after this.
48:15I mean, they play Arizona next week. They play Carolina a couple of weeks after that.
48:20They play the Raiders and the Dolphins and the Jets and the Raiders.
48:24Like it, it gets a little bit easier. So I agree with you this week.
48:29I am 100% not playing anyone outside of JK Dobbins and Dobbins is only because you pretty much usually need your running backs.
48:36Uh, and then, but what about the Seahawks side?
48:39I mean, they're usually easy too. I mean, the one place that the Broncos have been vulnerable this year is the running game.
48:46Emmanuel Wilson. I think you can start. I wouldn't worry about a lot of, you know, Charbonnet won't be back this week, right?
48:53He does. He could play. Uh, they said, oh, that was week seven.
48:58That was week seven. Yeah, you're right. So play Jason.
49:01I'd play Emmanuel Wilson. I would too. And then I'd pretty much be logging out of this game.
49:07Yeah. And then play the Seahawks defense. And honestly, I do think you can also play Denver's defense too.
49:13Darnold has still been an interception machine. So you can, you can get fantasy points.
49:17All right, let's jump into the mailbag. Mailbag. All righty.
49:21Let's jump in. We've got your questions here. Trying to get you ready for the week.
49:26I've got a couple of voicemails here. Let's start with one.
49:29Hi ballers. I'm currently two and three in my league with Jordan Tyson, Jadarian Price, and Travion Henderson on my bench.
49:36If I need to drop one of them, which one would you drop and why?
49:41Thank y'all. What do you think? So I just went.
49:44Jordan Tyson, Jadarian Price, and Travion Henderson. Who would you drop of those three?
49:48Henderson to me is not, he is the one I'm not dropping for sure.
49:53Right. Because his injury is short term. He had some explosiveness when we saw him.
49:58Now, Price versus Tyson. Oh, that's interesting. Right. We saw Price out there with the opportunity and he didn't score fantasy points.
50:05Now he's on IR. His injury came later. Jordan Tyson has the hopeful upside, but his injury seems even more significant.
50:11We still feel like we're like a month away from.
50:14Yeah, exactly. Well, I think they have a week eight by you just have to drop one.
50:20Yes. I drop one of them. I know. It's so easy to start.
50:24I wouldn't drop Tyson. I think that would be the one I wouldn't drop.
50:29I would drop Price. Let's just be. If you have to.
50:32Everything for Price is the path. Travion Henderson has one play this year.
50:36Yeah. One play. Yes. He's played four games. He has one play this year.
50:41So more than Jadarian Price. You sure? I mean, you can.
50:44I don't think Price is. I think Price and Travion should both probably go.
50:49But at running back. Yeah, I drop Price. That's my final answer.
50:52Yeah. The problem for Price is just what. What is the path?
50:56Yeah. What is the path? I mean, you're going to miss a few more games just because of the rules.
51:03Now you have sharp. And by the time Price is back, Charbonnet should be acclimating.
51:07You're telling me. And you're telling me Emmanuel Wilson's going away?
51:11Emmanuel Wilson has to have played his way into work.
51:14This team wants to use every running back they can.
51:17And Emmanuel Wilson. I'm going to say something here.
51:20Except for Salami. That I think is true for all three.
51:24Salami's gone bad. The path for all three players is injury.
51:27That is it. I don't see a path. My personal take.
51:31You guys have a difference on this one. I don't see a path for Tyson to be relevant for your fantasy team
51:38when Vele, Olave, and Jwonson are active, all healthy.
51:41I see no path for Price without injury. I see no path for Travion without injury.
51:46I agree with two thirds of those. Now the Travion almost had, Travion was almost there.
51:51I mean, last week we were supposed to have no Ramondre.
51:54It was time. He gets hurt and Ramondre's fine and scores double digit fantasy points.
51:59The problem for Price is even with an injury, there isn't a path.
52:03He needs two injuries. No, I think if, I think if, well, like if Charbonnet was injured and they didn't have Emanuel Wilson.
52:11If Emanuel Wilson was hurt, Price would have a nice committee role and he could be RB25.
52:16It would be like Walker. Yes, exactly. He could be RB25, but a path to dominance, zero path for Seahawks.
52:22Travion could dominate if he was back and there was no Ramondre, but I bet you they'd use other guys too.
52:29Yeah. Mike and I still have belief that Jordan Tyson second half of the year could play his way over Vele.
52:36They spent the number eight pick on him. This is not.
52:39But what is that? What is that? What's the ceiling there?
52:43Just so I know. I think the ceiling is like a weekly wide receiver 15.
52:48Yeah. Top. I'd say a weekly top 24. He's always had the ability to do that.
52:53So if you think he replaces him, it makes sense.
52:56But yeah, those are those are wild. Yeah. Because you try to craft the narrative in your mind of what happens to make them great.
53:04And it's tough. When you when you're making that narrative, you always get to can't cut that guy.
53:10Can't cut that guy. I want to answer this question actually because I wanted to talk about this guy.
53:16This is from the website. This is D in Canada.
53:19Not sure where, but we'll say bonjour anyways. Hey guys, love the pot.
53:23Stinky question for you. Jordan Mason is on my waiver wire and Hampton seems to be a landmine for me.
53:29Should I drop Hampton and pick up Mason? Uh, as he's might be overlooked being on by this week.
53:35Who? Um, so Omarian Hampton removed from the can't cut list by Yahoo.
53:40You are now allowed to draw. I didn't bring it up because I didn't know if you could handle it.
53:46I can handle it. I bring this up more for the Jordan Mason side as opposed to the Hampton side.
53:52Jordan Mason, like, so the Vikings are on. The Vikings are on by and he this week.
53:58Yes. Jordan Mason is eligible next week. Yeah. He'll be back in week seven.
54:02And it's, it was his thumb. So it's like he could still be conditioning this whole entire time.
54:08I would rather have Mason. And that's where I, Jordan Mason is a sneaky guy to get on you.
54:14If he's on your waiver wire, I would be.
54:17Yes. That's an instant out of all the, the waiver wire things we talked about this week of like, well, maybe Damian Pierce.
54:24If Jordan Mason were there, I'd be picking him up to stash.
54:28Cause I think he comes in at worst is back to a full time share where I would give the edge for touchdowns to Jordan Mason at best.
54:37Aaron Jones has been getting a lot of utilization as an old guy and could like him breaking down before the end
54:44of the year seems the most likely one of these situations is a undefeated football team that leans on the running game.
54:51The other one is a disaster, winless football team that has a guaranteed unchangeable committee of, of pain that will not be.
54:58I mean, you're not seeing the best play on the, in the running game last week was come on to Vidal Sassoon.
55:05Yeah. So silky smooth. So he was, he was on that.
55:09Vidal is a, Vidal can play. I mean, it's funny cause you watch that and you're like, I don't think the other
55:16two guys would have made that play. I don't think so.
55:19And it's depressing, but like the pathway for Jordan Mason having a touchdown every week is right there.
55:25Yeah. He's not a pass catcher, but he's going to get a lot of work.
55:30There was also talk, um, this week about the excitement of getting Mason back and his involvement and that they're going to lean on him.
55:38Uh, he he's on a lot of my teams in the IR.
55:41I completely think he needs to be picked up now dropping Hampton versus, you know, your lowest ranked wide receiver.
55:48I mean, there are, there are, there are plenty of running backs on my team that I still choose not to drop who are just straight backups.
55:56Yeah. I mean, Woody Marks has been on the roster the whole entire year.
56:01Like I can't imagine dropping Omari and Hampton for Mason.
56:04That's not to say, but if you had to, if you had to, cause Mike's point about it being the thumb and
56:11not being any of the, you know, it's not a leg injury.
56:15No, I know who I won't talk. Yeah. I, you make your call.
56:19I don't think I would, I don't think I would drop Hampton for Mason, but there's a lot of players I would drop for Mason.
56:27And I think you should pick up Mason. So if you had Hampton and you saw Mason out there, you would keep him.
56:34I would drop a wide receiver. No, that's not an option.
56:38There's gotta be a different path. There has to be another path.
56:42The question is, would it's that binary. If it's, if it's just that, I would not.
56:47Would you, would you drop him to pick up Mason?
56:50And I would do that. Mike, you have to answer.
56:53I guess you did answer. I, yeah, I don't think I would.
56:57Okay. I don't think I would. Nice. I don't even know what that means.
57:01All right. No one knows what it means, but it's provocative.
57:05It's a verbal hedge. Voicemail question coming in. Hey, Bowers, Matt from North Carolina here and Parker Washington has personally been shopping me.
57:12I'm curious, rest of season, what group do you put him with?
57:16Love the show guys. I feel like we, apparently.
57:19Now we answered it. Yeah. I mean, I don't think any, would you take neighbors and, and London ahead of Parker Washington?
57:26Yes. It is so funny, but he's in there with Ted McMillan.
57:30It's so funny guys. I, so we have our rest of season rankings that we, you know, we work on every week.
57:37We have a show doc that has information. I was working in our show doc for this, uh, draft that I didn't
57:44pull up my rest of season rankings. I love my rest of season rankings.
57:48I'm like, Oh, I should have gone by this, uh, which had Drake London, then Chris Olave, then neighbors, then Parker Washington, who is at 10.
57:57But I see him as a wide receiver one rest of season.
58:00Uh, website question from Nolan in Aberdeen, Washington. Hey, Bowers, who do I flex this week?
58:06Jeremy Bernard against the Tampa Bay defense or Roma Dunsay against Atlanta in Atlanta.
58:10My gut is telling me, Bernard, we'd like to hear your thoughts.
58:14Love the show. It sounds like Caleb Williams is going to be back, uh, full participant today.
58:19There was some really encouraging news. So, um, with that, I would lean the Roma Dunsay side and hopes that you get the, the bears great offense.
58:28I would too. Jeremy Bernard, very exciting. He's on watch right now.
58:32Exciting pickup. Uh, so like the next question though, this one I think is harder from Chris.
58:37Would you start Jeremy Bernard or a Mecca Ibuka?
58:40Well, Mecca Ibuka has a quarterback upgrade, right? Cause he got a touchdown last week.
58:45Nah, I just, I just kidding. Baker. Uh, it's just, I show, so ironic that it was a game and in like
58:52a year comes when Baker's not there. It's funny.
58:55Cause without that touchdown, which by the way, it was not a pass.
58:59So if you want to say the court, it was an end around other than that, nine targets turned into 38 yards for, for a Buka.
59:07I have no problem. If you go Jeremy, I'd probably go, I'd probably go a Buka, but I have, I, like I said, I have no problem.
59:16If you want to give it a shot with Roman Wilson and Pittman out, I don't think you're going to get double touchdown Friar Muth again.
59:24Jeremy could have nine targets easily and they might be better.
59:28And I don't mind it. And Aaron Rogers is playing great.
59:31Mike, did you know that? I think he's playing great.
59:34I think he's playing good. I picked up Aaron Rogers in the league to play him.
59:39Wait, you, what? That is a, that's an about face right there.
59:43That is an about face. Where's my button? Yeah, find it.
59:47What did he say? What? Uh, well I had, I had two quarterbacks on by and there were very few quarterbacks out there.
59:54So it was like Cam Ward. Uh, I mean, I could go look.
59:58Way to throw out the lowest one. No, the only other one.
60:02And say that again, the same way. Cam Ward.
60:05Yeah. Yeah. Disgusting. Um, he's playing good football. Yeah.
60:08I'm just so. Okay. How about Jason? Last year you would not have had a waiver wire pickup from the Steelers at
60:15wide receiver be the number one on your list.
60:18Nor would you be playing Aaron Rogers? Uh, yeah.
60:21I mean, I was close between, um, Michael Pennix, but the injury, Pennix against Chicago, I think would be good if he's playing.
60:28The news I saw was that he's supposed to practice.
60:31And then it was Daniel Jones, Deshaun Watson. And, and so, you know, the Aaron Rogers against Tampa Bay, he's he's that's the categories in.
60:39I mean, I'm, I'm not, I'm not, I don't hate Aaron Jones or, uh, Aaron Rogers.
60:44I don't hate Aaron Jones. I just think the numbers we have seen the last few weeks are probably not going to continue.
60:51Well, I don't think any of us disagree with that.
60:55I don't think he's throwing West three times 17 touch.
60:58No. What is that? Touchdown wise. Yeah. That was a 51, 51 touchdowns or something.
61:03All right. Tomorrow we've got starts of the week, matchup previews, Thursday night recap, uh, as well.
61:08And we'll get into the matchups and the wheel of shame on Friday.
61:12Good luck putting the pieces together. Hopefully your waiver wire went well.
61:16You can set your lineup for Thursday night. Make sure those guys will return to practice.
61:21Yes. Thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast.
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