0:00Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
0:05Welcome in. Good morning everybody. What a Monday night.
0:08What a football game. That was quite the game.
0:11It was very bizarre. It was a very bizarre football game.
0:1537-34. It's funny because in the first half it's like, oh, wasn't this game 54.5 points?
0:20It's like supposed to be a high-scoring game because it's like late.
0:24You know, I think we're going into the second half or something.
0:287-13, like the defensive slugfest it felt like. Yeah, and Josh Allen completed 12 passes, guys.
0:34He also out. And they scored 37. He outran James Cook.
0:37He had 121 rushing yards. It was a crazy, crazy game.
0:41The offense was Josh Allen and James Cook running.
0:44And then on the other side, 24 targets for Puka Nakua.
0:4824. It could not be more imbalanced. The leading, the most targets on the Buffalo Bills that I'm seeing would be Ty Johnson at four.
0:56Khalil Shakir had three. And then tight end superstar from weeks one and two.
1:01Oh, yeah. Dalton Kikade. I remember him. Ran 82% of the routes.
1:05Bet you wish you started Kyle Pitts this week, Mike.
1:08Yeah. That would have been more points than one catch for seven yards.
1:13Yeah. I mean, Mike is obviously. What do you do with this?
1:17Well, talk about it. I mean, it's waiver day.
1:20We got the Monday Night Football game. Big show.
1:23But yesterday was not all Monday Night Football. No, it was not.
1:27We had our event that trended top 10 on Twitter.
1:30Thank you, Foot Clan. Thank you for participating in Andy's Hole.
1:34Hashtag Andy's Hole, which got up to top 10.
1:37We were number nine in the United States of America.
1:40That was a good time on X. Yeah. We headed out at about, I don't know.
1:45I started at like 1045 yesterday morning on this very easy task of hitting a hole in one.
1:51So easy. And, you know, people don't know really what happened.
1:55They were following along. It was rain. It was torrential downpour at one point.
2:00And this dog, this absolute dog was out there just swinging in the rain.
2:04We're all under canopies. I was hiding as much as I could.
2:08Oh, I don't want to be wet. No. He's soaking wet out there.
2:13What is rain? Swing. And you swung for basically 10 hours.
2:17Yeah. Thousands. 2,000, over 2,300 shots. Basically 2,400 shots.
2:20Body no longer working. How's your hand? A couple blisters.
2:23They feel broken. They feel broken. My left thumb is numb.
2:27It's still like just numb. I want to show, we're going to show the YouTube audience.
2:32Go to YouTube, youtube.com slash fantasyfootballers. This is Andy at the end of the night.
2:37Yeah. The last shot. Yeah. A lot of close calls.
2:40Oh, you golfed absolutely. You blew my mind. You were golfing so well that we were really upset on the green.
2:47We're like, this guy sucks. And in the nicest way.
2:51You were putting everything by that hole. But it's hard to get in hashtag.
2:55It is. Yeah. The, um, it was, uh, it's very small.
2:59It was a, it was a difficult trial to try to shoot that many shots.
3:04And for those that have asked, I saw on Twitter, it was about 130 yards out.
3:09And, um, anyways, we got, we have a clip.
3:12Andy at the end of the night, his, his couple final swings.
3:16Look at this man. But I'm done. I don't think I got it left.
3:21My left ankle has started hurting for no reason.
3:24Come on. Come on. Come on. Yeah. We are watching his hole in one that he got at the end of the night on the 2,399th shot.
3:33It was unbelievable. He's a king. A king among men.
3:36A king. Un, unreal. Oh my God. I still don't believe it.
3:41Oh my God. You have to go watch this.
3:44Get away. You called it. Yeah. We realize this is terrible podcast audio.
3:48So please go to YouTube if you want to see this video.
3:52Just people screaming. Also. Uh, if you didn't, couldn't tell they went in the hole.
3:57Yeah. Oh yeah. Hold on. Hold on. We're the greatest man of lives.
4:01I do have the official. Oh, it's all marked up.
4:05Hole in one. 10, 12, 20, 26. We are going to be putting together a full video of the day.
4:11I cannot believe it would have been. It was worth it.
4:15The stories, the journey. You want to see this video.
4:18So check that out. Make sure you subscribe. I know we're a fantasy football show.
4:23But this is a moment. This is 2.5. You just made a hole in one when you said you could after 24.
4:31100 shots. It's, it's an achievement of mankind. Well, and a shout out to the crew who kept me positive despite the
4:38body breaking down over 10 hours and 2,399 shots.
4:41I still, to this moment. I can't freaking believe you did it.
4:45Do not believe that that ball went in the hill.
4:48I, I didn't believe it until Mike ran all the way down the hill and he looked into the, into the hole.
4:56I had to make sure there was no shenanigans.
4:59I don't know what these people were doing. Yeah.
5:02So we had to beg this dog to stop and take five minute breaks here and there and get some electrolytes.
5:09And I, I don't think he rested more than 20 minutes over the whole 10 hours combined.
5:15I had one bathroom break, which probably meant I wasn't drinking enough, but, uh, but we got it done.
5:21So I, um, yeah, yeah. Enjoy the video. Matt's going to put something fun together to show the highlights of that day.
5:28But my goodness, what, what a Monday night. And we were watching the Monday night football game.
5:34Mike was given play by play. The, uh, the night was magical.
5:38So there you go. We, we had to reveal that cause I wasn't going to keep that in.
5:44No, there was no way I wasn't going to tell, uh, what happened after the end of the night.
5:50After you made a hole in one. After the hole in one.
5:54Unbelievable. Well, a hole in 2,399. This isn't a Marvin Harrison trade here.
5:59Uh, we got to talk about it. Oh wow.
6:02We haven't even talked about it. Yeah, we did.
6:05We did yesterday. Yeah. I don't remember that guy.
6:08But we, uh, we'll transition back to football here.
6:11Uh, you can go watch, watch what happened. YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers.
6:15News and notes from around the league. All right.
6:18Uh, Patriots running back Travion Henderson officially diagnosed with a high ankle sprain.
6:22He's going to be sidelined multiple weeks. That's oh, it's okay.
6:26They, they call them a fast healer. So the.
6:29Is that really what they said? Yeah. The healing speed of Travion.
6:33I mean, it's legendary. It's legendary. Might as well be Wolverine.
6:37Uh, he's probably, he's probably good to go right now.
6:40Also. Currently injured high ankle sprain and probably won't play.
6:44Live for a couple of weeks, but they won't need surgery.
6:47There you go. Um, Ramondre suddenly hyper relevant again after a decent week.
6:52Brown signed Odrick Estame from the Vikings practice squad with the Judkins injury day to day with an ankle.
6:58Oh yeah. Junkins. I'm sorry. Day to day with a, an ankle injury.
7:02Their backfield is just depleted at the moment. Raheem Sanders is hurt.
7:06Yes, he is. So Julian McLaughlin. Yeah. We're going to be talking about Julian McLaughlin as a waiver wire pickup.
7:13And he's perhaps an important one because, and look, he's on the Cleveland Browns.
7:18Everybody. You may not know that. Yeah. Yeah. He, he made one play this year.
7:23Uh, David Montgomery week to week with a groin injury tight.
7:26Uh, Texans have a buy in week eight. I mean that the Montgomery going away and the acquisition of Marvin Harrison jr.
7:34Like this is going to be a past first second and third team.
7:38It's, it's going to be tough for Montgomery. I think cause I, to my eyeballs, Woody Marks has been the better running
7:45back over the course of the year. And now that it's like, okay, we have to give Woody Marks everything.
7:52If Woody has a couple of good games, I think the backfield can flip.
7:57Devante Smith with the hamstring has a quote shot to return for week six, his game against the Panthers.
8:03Okay. So he might be back. That'd be good.
8:06Uh, Debo Samuel will miss at least a couple of weeks with a hamstring injury.
8:11Brandon cooks is the quote next man up in the 49ers receiver room.
8:16Just think he had hits over there. He had one catch.
8:19It was a touchdown. Um, the Falcons are optimistic that Michael Pennix will be able to play in week six against the bears.
8:27There's also talk of Caleb playing in that game.
8:30Did you see the clip? I don't know the, I haven't dug into the context of it, but in the, in the
8:37huddle right before like the, the, the game losing turnover, Bijon's like tapping to a, it's like turning to around and pointing to the sideline.
8:46Like, no, no, no, you're not like sub him out.
8:49It was crazy. It was, I don't know what happened, but he definitely turns him around and points to the sideline.
8:56Like, whoa, two is two. It's like, why? That is so brutal.
9:00When the whole team just knows. Yeah. And then you go out and throw the pick and he gets, he still gets to be the backup.
9:09No, no for now. Yeah. AJ Brown. There's hope.
9:12Mike Rabel says that there is a chance he practices this week.
9:16Okay. But it could be good. I mean, Drake may looking much improved.
9:20I think AJ Brown will be a league winner in the fantasy playoffs.
9:25I don't know how fast he'll get off to, you know, when he gets back, is he going to have a couple
9:32of weeks where it's a slow start? That's possible.
9:35But I do think come the end of the year, Drake may has looked back to being what we hoped Drake may would be.
9:43And he still needs a weapon like AJ Brown.
9:46What is this news on Tyler shut coming through right now?
9:50There it is. This is from Jeff Nowak. Yeah.
9:53Asked directly whether Tyler Shuck's hand is broken. Quote, it got banged two weeks ago and he's just wearing some protective layers.
10:00Because if you saw Shuck's non-throwing hand, he's got the fingers taped together.
10:04And I mean, when it happened, you know, it's the, his hand took a pretty big shot.
10:10But I guess they're just saying, yeah, he's fine.
10:13He'll play through. Circling back to the AJ Brown thing.
10:16I will say I completely agree with you that there is a pretty good probability of AJ Brown being a league winning difference maker.
10:24And I am very terrified to make a trade for him right now.
10:29Sure. It's like. You're still taking on a bunch of risk.
10:32Yeah. It's like the injury risk than the Drake may like, you know, Jekyll and Hyde potential and, you know, more injuries.
10:40And I don't know. Like, I think that is true, but it would depend on the price for me.
10:46If somebody wants to get rid of him, I think it might be harder now with the news of practicing and Drake may playing well.
10:55But yeah. Any other news we got? Did you guys hear about I made a hole in one?
11:01I did. That was. I realized that my even reaction on this show is, is kind of muted because I'm, I'm more tired than I realized.
11:09I'm pretty dang. The adrenaline dropped just now. If that ball did not drop in the hole, I think we're doing a two man show with Jay Grizz.
11:19I mean, it really, all of the pain is now worth it.
11:23So you guys ready for the waiver wire? Go waiver wire presented by T-Mobile.
11:27All righty. We are getting the Chiefs and Panthers back from the bye.
11:32Welcome back. Ken Walker. Oh, my sweet. I am Ted McMillan.
11:35Ken Walker. This week though, Burrow and Chasen Higgins, the Bengals on the bye, Ollie Gordon and the Dolphins.
11:42Uh, you don't have the Lions. Jameer Gibbs goes to the bye on Ra, Laporta, all those guys golf has been playing well.
11:49And then the Vikings also on by this week, you know, between the injuries and the bye weeks, there is, you know,
11:57there's significant decisions to be made for every team.
12:00Like most people are not putting out the roster they drafted.
12:03They're putting out some other players. We got some big names to talk about on the waiver wire.
12:09So let's get into it with the running back position, uh, trying to keep these two, you know, lower rostered names, but
12:17the two at the very top that are starters, Marshawn Lloyd, Woody Marks, Woody Marks going to be taking over for a while.
12:25And Marshawn Lloyd finally showed a little something. Maybe when every pass you throw down field works, that defense is less inclined to try to stop you.
12:34But Marshawn Lloyd did put his shoulder down. He broke through a defender, scored later in the game.
12:40It was an impressive performance and you get Dallas this week.
12:43Yeah. The, I'm wondering, where are you guys with these two?
12:47Cause Lloyd scored two touchdowns and it, the, the play was, I mean, that's the good stuff for football is when someone
12:54absolutely gets truck stick, but he was 10 for 31 on the date.
12:59Like this was not a, all of a sudden, Oh, Marshawn Lloyd figured it out.
13:04We got the running game. No, he was a beneficiary of a couple.
13:08Yeah. Their, their offense was really clicking, especially with the, uh, Jordan love saying, Hey, check this out.
13:14And then he just bombs it downfield to Christian Watson.
13:17Uh, but you know, he, he's available in about close enough, close enough.
13:22I guess he's rostered in that. Uh, so it's less than that, but like Woody marks probably the better player, but his
13:29might be temporary and he's going up against Jacksonville this week.
13:33Yeah. I think this is a matter of, do you need to start this player?
13:38Do you have Jameer Gibbs on by and you need to pick someone up to start this week?
13:44Because if I was starting someone, I would rather start Marshall Marshall, Marshall Lloyd against the Cowboys than Woody marks against Jacksonville longer term.
13:52I actually, you know, Mike, you, you just said it.
13:55If, if Woody marks gets the opportunity and does perform well, there is a world where he could usurp David Montgomery.
14:02Now I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think either of these guys is a great long-term, uh, pickup in
14:10the sense that you've got a tough matchup this week for Woody marks, then a game, then a bi-week.
14:16So it's like, you're, you're not really looking at someone that's going to be great right now for the next month.
14:23And then putting your reliance in Marshawn Lloyd, who has looked pretty bad the majority of the year.
14:29Yes. The touchdown really saved them and he's got a good matchup.
14:33I'm not like, uh, going out there and dumping massive amounts of, of fab for either of these guys.
14:39I have Lloyd one spot ahead. We have no idea what's going on with Josh Jacobs.
14:45We had confirmation that the Packers have no information.
14:48Um, we are approaching that week six. I mean, we're going into week six right now, which is kind of the, the,
14:55uh, default, uh, starting point for a domestic violence suspension.
14:58Um, so he will be missing this week. That will be the six weeks.
15:03I don't know if at that point they start asking the Packers start going, okay, we need to hear something.
15:10Not that they have any control over it. I mean, we just don't know what in the world's going on.
15:17Like, is this a, like a, a standstill because the league won't act until it has the video and Jacobs won't provide the video.
15:25And they're trying to, and they're trying to basically force Jacobs to show the video at some point in time or the NFL PA gets involved.
15:33We have not heard any news in a while.
15:36I know Al Borland, our resident Packer fan here has been befuddled by the entire, right?
15:42I mean, you've just been like, what in the world's happening?
15:45Yeah, absolutely. Uh, and it's not just, uh, not just because I'm a Packer fan, but as a person that needs running
15:53back help on my team, I want to trade for Josh Jacobs, but I can't do it until I know.
15:59It's just, yeah. I, so starter wise, you might also see Damian Pierce starting this week against Carolina cause Shipley and, uh, tank Bigsby are on IR.
16:08Saquon is still questionable. He, Damian Pierce is almost available everywhere.
16:12Not an army, not an army. I know Mike's got him.
16:16Um, Kendra Miller, what did he do last week?
16:1910 for 30 and a score. Yeah. He looked okay.
16:22Uh, Camara was not great. Would you rather play Jay?
16:25Would you rather play Damian Pierce? But that's, it's an unknown.
16:29Like cause Saquon was week to week with the hamstring.
16:32I would say he probably misses, but there's, you know, let's just assume that he's out.
16:38But are you, would you rather play Damian Pierce against Carolina or Woody Marks against Jacksonville?
16:43Oh man. That's really tough. Carolina is such a bad team against the run specifically, but the offensive line injuries for the Eagles.
16:51Jacksonville is the team that absolutely shut down Philadelphia's run game.
16:55Like Damian Pierce was 11 for 14, but it wasn't all just a Pierce issue.
17:00I mean, a lot of it is, but Jacksonville is just, they are, they're very, very solid.
17:05Like right now they're number two as in like, they're the second worst matchup for running backs.
17:11Yeah. I think I lean Pierce over Woody Marks.
17:14You, you also could throw out Kendra Miller. I mean, this is why I'm not dumping fab on like I, there is
17:21an avenue here where you go, Hey, Marshawn Lloyd is a great start this week.
17:26Maybe he is, um, you know, he, he was 10 for 31.
17:30I will say this 26 snaps in the first three quarters, zero to Caleb Johnson.
17:35They, they beat the tar out of the bears.
17:38The fourth quarter is when Caleb Johnson came in and got nine years.
17:43So like it was Marshawn Lloyd and there was clarity to who like, but still vast majority to Lloyd.
17:49You might look at the snaps and go, Oh, at the end of the game, he was lower or whatever, but that
17:56was not how the game was playing out when they were in the game.
18:01If Lloyd was available on waivers in your league, which he is in, in about half of leagues.
18:07I'll ask Al Borland this just cause you were talking about running back depth.
18:12There's a chance Lloyd of all these names that we mentioned is the running back for the rest of the season for the Packers.
18:20What kind of fab would you be willing to drop out as somebody who's in the trenches fighting for running backs?
18:27If Marshawn Lloyd was sitting there, how much of your a hundred dollar fab budget would you pay to put them on your team?
18:35I think I'd go about 50. Yeah. I think, I think Lloyd is the one that he's already on my team and he's my RB one.
18:44Yeah. I said like a Packers fan and a hundred percent of that dropping 50.
18:49He's already on your team. He's your RB one.
18:52If I would, I'd probably drop 40 to 50 if I didn't have a running back or my running back was knocked
18:59out just because I think Lloyd has the highest odds of these players.
19:03Like Monty will come back at some point. Saquon might be back this week.
19:08Kendrick Miller has to deal with the return of HN plus Camara.
19:12Brian Robinson Jr. That's a backup player like Roshan.
19:15What in the world happened with Mike Washington Jr.
19:18This week? Yeah. That was bizarre. I mean, Jinty was, Jinty was so hurt.
19:23It was Dylan Laube. Dylan Laube. And I was like, is he hurt?
19:27Like he had one opportunity, one snap. And Ashton Jinty is like, Jinty's clearly hurt.
19:32He does not look anything remotely. Really hurt. Like we, and it's just, this is how it's going to be for the Raiders and Ashton Jinty.
19:41And you just got to hope that he keeps getting all those check downs because on the ground, Ashton Jinty right now is a disaster.
19:49Will Shipley just went down for multiple weeks due to what?
19:53A torn plantar fascia, which by the way, I think sometimes is the better path to healing on that injury.
20:00I remember that in the past with like Eli.
20:03That's what's on the table for Jinty. He's dealing with plantar fasciitis on top of the ankle injury.
20:09If he tears it, it will be a multi-week absence.
20:12That makes Jinty really trepidatious. Yeah, he's really, everything is just pure volume for him at this point.
20:18I mean, like still good in the receiving game, but on the ground, like he's at 3.3 yards per carry on the season.
20:26Yeah, that's kind of been the story with him the last two years.
20:30Julio McLaughlin could have an opportunity in Cleveland. They play Baltimore.
20:34Baltimore has been good against the run. Oh, yeah.
20:37That's a Sarah. Sarah, okay. Yeah, Sarah McLaughlin available.
20:40Goodness gracious. Keaton Mitchell, Emmitt Johnson, if you want to, you know, Emmitt needs to be on a roster.
20:46It is the season that you can cycle them, you can stash your favorite, but if you have spots on your bench
20:53right now where you're just like, eh, you have, I have this low tier wide receiver who it's like nothing's happening for them.
21:01There's no momentum. Start putting insurance running backs on your bench.
21:05Follow injuries. It's like, find the backup to the backup as well.
21:09I threw Damian Pierce on my bench over this weekend in League of Record because it's down to Will Shipley and Damian Pierce.
21:17Yeah, you always want, if you have an extra spot, you want to take the shots on those backups.
21:23Emmitt Johnson and Kalen Black, those two guys are available in the majority of leagues.
21:28Silly. Which is crazy to me. I mean, a bye week for Kansas City might have led to the number for Emmitt.
21:35Yeah, but those two guys must be rostered in all situations.
21:39And then there's also... And Roshan. Roshan, absolutely. Due to the Monunga, we know he's going to miss a couple weeks.
21:46There's also a running back out there playing the majority of snaps who had nine receptions this week that you still don't
21:53want to pick up, which is Tajay Spears. Nine receptions?
21:57Yeah. The Titans. Did you see... I mean, if you look at the first 21 games of Will Levis' career in Cam
22:04Ward's, Will Levis wins almost every category. More wins.
22:07Better numbers. The Titans have scored 20 points one time this year.
22:11Right now, you're basically targeting... 10, 7, 3. You're targeting teams' defenses, playing Miami, playing the Titans.
22:17It's wild. Chargers. Chargers? I mean, you're not wrong.
22:20And maybe Denver. Maybe. And the Giants. But that's not...
22:23That's because... And Tampa right now with Jalon Danielson.
22:26But we'll take a break and we'll get into the rest of the positions here as we talk waivers heading into week six.
22:34By the way, I was glancing like I have Bucky Irving, right?
22:38He's on my team. And I was like, well, this is good advice here on the show.
22:44Maybe I should just take a look at Kenny Gainwell and see if he's sitting out there.
22:49He shouldn't be on a roster. But lo and behold...
22:53He's my RB2. Yes! Al Borland. That's what I saw.
22:56Al Borland has Kenny Gainwell. How's that been working out for you?
23:00What's his performances? He's not actually my RB2. Okay.
23:03He is on your roster. He is. I think he was in my starting lineup this week.
23:09He has two points, three points, two points, nine points, seven and four.
23:13RB48. My team's hanging in there. Gainwell's looked nothing like Gainwell last year in any way.
23:18He's been the least efficient runner that I can imagine.
23:22I mean, he was, golly, he's 2.6 on the year.
23:25And you're like, well, he catches the ball, right?
23:28He's got 11 catches in five games. It's weird.
23:31So only a guy like Al would have him on his team.
23:35They gave him decent money, too. I mean, I'm sitting there going, like, if I was trying to insure Bucky Irving, it's probably Sean Tucker.
23:43Might be. The way things are right now. All right.
23:47Let's talk about the very important wide receiver position here and a guy that we all have in the top three of our waiver rankings.
23:55This is my number one pickup of the week.
23:58It's Jeremy Bernard of the Pittsburgh Steelers who... Second round rookie.
24:02Yes. I mean, he has had, like, flashes. He had eight targets in week two.
24:07Four for 35 in that game. But this past week, nine targets, six catches, 80 yards.
24:12I believe the quote from someone on the team was like, football just comes easy for him.
24:18And you no longer have Michael Pittman, who's on IR.
24:21You no longer have Roman Wilson, who's hurt. You know, they don't have Kenny Gainwell anymore.
24:27Aaron Rodgers' favorite target. I like it. So, Jeremy Bernard, when you have a rookie that has upside and potential, to me, this is...
24:35I don't blame you if he's number one on your list at all.
24:39It's all positional preference. Like, what do you need most?
24:42I think I have a couple running backs ahead of him because I think those are more rare.
24:48But Jeremy Bernard, like, I think he'll be highly contested on the waiver wire this week, Jay.
24:54And six for 80 opportunities. Metcalf is just a wet fart of a wide receiver anymore.
24:59I have Metcalf. Who would you start next week?
25:02The process would say you still start Metcalf, but the heart and some other...
25:07Like, just everything in me would not want to watch DK Metcalf anymore.
25:11Gurmy. Gurmy. Leave Jeremy alone. Yeah. Yeah. His name is spelled with a G, if you don't know.
25:17It is. I know, but you might be going out there, like, searching on the waiver wire, like, where's this Jeremy Bernard I'm hearing about?
25:26G-E-R-M-I-E. G-E-R-M-I-E. But he's a good prospect. I didn't think...
25:29My notes on him were plays the entire field and seems very reliable.
25:34An NFL wide receiver for sure. Maybe not a fantasy star.
25:37But he's good and he's getting the opportunity and they need him right now.
25:42So, yeah, I think he's a good pickup. He's not necessarily my number one pickup.
25:47If I'm looking at a start... Well, because of Rodgers, it's only production right now.
25:52It's not good. Just good numbers. Right. No, I mean, for me, it's just a matter of, like, depending on what you
25:59need, other positions, who might be available, there's a quarterback available in, like, 40% of leagues, which is mind-blowing, that should be picked up immediately.
26:08And then I still think Dontavian Wicks is a very good pickup.
26:12He's been on the field. He's been getting the targets.
26:15He's proven over and over that he's, you know, able to go out there and put up a bomb touchdown or 70-plus yards, get enough targets.
26:24And so I'd rather have the Steelers' offense than the Eagles' offense right now.
26:28So that's where, if you want to lean Germy, Jeremy...
26:32Well, we have another update. No, look, it... We need to figure this out.
26:36Yeah, I don't... Oh, this is from a parody account.
26:40Let's be honest with the people. There are multiple places that say that he...
26:44The name is pronounced Jeremy. Yes. So not Jeremy.
26:48Not three syllables. Jeremy. Two. Nick Farabaugh, who's a Steelers beat reporter, is a...
26:52Which is how I was pronouncing it. Wash your hands, because you want to get the Jermies off.
26:58Yes. Right. Jeremy Bernard is how I have always pronounced it, but then...
27:03All right. We were told by some places that he...
27:06It's Jeremy. Yeah. That's why I call him Germy.
27:09But that... But that we know that's the one that's not it.
27:13If you spell your name Germy... It's not spelled Germy.
27:16It's spelled Jeremy. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I got you.
27:19Point proven. Yeah. Yeah. Goodness gracious. So Jeremy Bernard.
27:22I'm going back to Jeremy. Jeremy Bernard, huge pickup.
27:25I think Kendrick Bourne is a huge pickup. I agree with that.
27:29Because he had eight targets this past week. And in the absence of Marvin Harrison, he had already had some productive games.
27:37Arizona passes a million times a game because they have no running game.
27:41And look, eight targets. You can't ignore that. You're going to have the Arizona Cardinals in high over-unders every single week.
27:48Their defense is abysmal. I mean, they have given up 45 points, 36 points, 36 points, 31 points in a row.
27:55So, yeah, you want a wide receiver who's going to be on the field getting targets.
28:00I like that a lot. Bourne's my number two wide receiver this week.
28:05Yeah. I think that is a huge pickup. And then some other names to remember.
28:10I mean, Dontavian Wicks has just been 50% rostered all year and will stay there.
28:15He always has the potential to have a nice game.
28:18He did have eight targets this past week. We just talked about Devontae Smith returning.
28:23Also, Goddard's back. And you saw how frequently Goddard was targeted in this offense.
28:28I still am kind of lukewarm on Wicks, Jason.
28:31Sure. I know you were a little more bullish, maybe just the opportunity every week, a starting wide receiver.
28:37I get that. But what about Darius Cooper, who's – Dude.
28:41Darius Cooper just went two for 71, scored another touchdown.
28:44How does he keep doing it? I don't know.
28:47I mean, you can't project a guy – He played the most.
28:51He has seven catches. Any wide receiver. Did you know this?
28:55He has seven catches on the year. And he has four touchdowns.
28:59Seven catches. I mean, how do you not start him, right?
29:03No, but yeah, seven catches on the season is tough.
29:06I would – you know, I think the entire season, Dontavian Wicks is going to continue having his role.
29:12He's going to be on the field. He's going to get deep shots.
29:17So he's – like, Jeremy is a player who we hope could break out and be better.
29:22Like, if Devontae Smith is back, then Cooper's going to lose snaps.
29:26Yes, he will. But the last two weeks without him, 90% and 85% led the team in snaps last week.
29:33And you get the unknown rookie upside situation. But I agree.
29:37Like, ultimately, the depth chart is going to say Dontavian Wicks next to Devontae Smith.
29:42So that probably makes sense. It's – it's just always interesting when a rookie starts to have success.
29:48And so something to pay attention to. Jordan Tyson, what is your thought process with Jordan Tyson?
29:54I mean, he's probably rostered in your league, probably on an IR spot.
29:58I'm seeing about 65%. And we did get the word – at least the report was that Tyson won't practice this week either.
30:06I'm just so – I'm still not convinced that there will be – like, I feel like he could just be a roster clogged.
30:14He absolutely could be. He absolutely could be. He definitely could be.
30:18It's just the fact of he's – well, where was he drafted?
30:22Top 10? Number 8. The number 8 overall pick, who we don't know.
30:26Who was our number 1 wide receiver ahead of Cornell Tate.
30:30I mean, he should. He's an unbelievably talented wide receiver.
30:33And in the short stretch where he was healthy for the Saints, you know, because he missed the beginning of camp.
30:40They drafted him knowing he was injured. And then he comes back.
30:44And we're just seeing highlight reel after highlight reel.
30:47Him mossing these guys and breaking the ankles. It just looked like – I was like, oh my gosh, I have to have him on my team.
30:56And then he re-aggravates the hamstring that he's dealt with forever.
31:00So it definitely could be a roster clog. He could very well come back finally after you roster him for the next
31:07three weeks and then re-injure the hamstring. He could be worthless.
31:11But I don't think there's a lot of people – if you play fantasy for upside, I don't think there's a lot
31:18of people on the waiver wire who's like, there's a world where he comes back and him and Olave are just dominating.
31:26Shuck and the offense that plays fast. And all of a sudden, you've got a top 15 wide receiver.
31:32That's just not usually in the cards. Yeah, that's interesting because I think the one real variable there is it's like, I
31:39might not see the path today, but if Valle or Olave got hurt at any point, when you're the eighth pick overall,
31:47you have the chance to come in and dominate.
31:50Other players don't. I've been impressed with Ryan Flannoy of the Cowboys so far this year.
31:55Plus the CeeDee Lamb quad injury, which we were told at the time of the game, it was nothing to worry about.
32:02But I haven't heard any updates about CeeDee Lamb.
32:05And if Lamb misses, then Flannoy becomes a very interesting play.
32:09He was on 71% of the routes. Like he is close to a full-time player.
32:14He's just the wide receiver three. I have a few thoughts here.
32:18I'm curious your opinion. One, when I go in and I look at waiver wire pickups, I'm oftentimes going into the week
32:25five stats, who's on the waiver wire and sorting by targets and receptions.
32:30You know, it stood out to me that Keenan Allen had nine targets last week on the return.
32:36So if you are looking for the potential performance of a player, targets go a long way.
32:42Keenan Allen out-targeted. Josh Downs, which is annoying, but it happened.
32:45He had nine targets his last game before going down to Andrew as well.
32:50So it's not going to be like the nine targets doesn't lead to 115 yards, at least 45 yards.
32:56But, you know, that stands out to me. By the way, it's another good moment to remind people as we walk through
33:04these players and discuss the context and potential for them.
33:07You know, we have waiver rankings as part of jointhefoot.com.
33:10We have custom waiver rankings just to who's like all of these players, how we rank them and who's only available in your league.
33:18Those are all available in the Ultimate Dashboard. So you'll be able to like import all your teams and see custom waiver
33:26rankings where the guys that are already rostered are not part of those rankings.
33:30So you can, you can, and it's custom scoring system, but you can go take a look at that.
33:37Um, I'm kind of done with Trey Harris and I'm kind of not chasing Demario Douglas.
33:42Yeah, that's fine. Honestly, I, I think Efton Chisholm is a player that I would rather chase.
33:48He, I mean, he played 76% of snaps, ran 74% of the routes, and that was coming off of a 13 target game.
33:55And this is the wide receiver for the New England Patriots second year wide receiver who is finding his way into that
34:03role that is been like, you know, the, the Edelman West Welker could be a highly targeted role.
34:09What we wondered if Dobbs was going to inherit, he's not playing that role.
34:14So it's at least worth paying attention to a guy who, you know, has had 18 targets the last two weeks on
34:21what could be a good 19 targets, uh, on what could be a good offense.
34:26And then Antonio Williams, I don't think we mentioned him yet.
34:30Uh, the rookie for Washington, he was so disappointing.
34:33It was, and I get going after him still, but he plays against the Niners who have just been the best team
34:40in the NFL and then goes to a bye week.
34:43So it's a, it's a hard pickup for me.
34:46At tight end. I think there are two super interesting names, Brenton strange, Pat Fryermuth, both for different reasons.
34:53I mean, Brenton strange, they have been involving him more and more and more double digits the last couple of weeks.
35:00Seven for 68 is awesome. One of the tackles was right by the goal line.
35:05And then the mute got loose two touchdowns. All the reasons we like Jeremy Bernard's potential are, you know, that's there for frying me trust of Aaron Rogers.
35:14Um, you don't have those other pass catchers. Metcalf sucks.
35:17There's lots of reasons to like for I'm youth this week.
35:21I don't think it's going to cost you much to get strange or for I'm youth.
35:27And I bet you, Mike is looking at both of these guys after three weeks of Dalton Kinkade farts.
35:33Yeah. Aaron Rogers talked up for our youth camp all the beginning of the year, as much as he was talking down
35:40Michael Pittman, he was saying the best camp was how he was just talking about how good friar muth and Roman Wilson were this camp.
35:49And so if you want a guy, we saw it, right?
35:52He trusted Kenny gain well last year, and then he threw it to him a ton.
35:58I think friar muth is a, is a fine pickup.
36:01Um, and also Darren Waller off of by, so that's in the rear view mirror.
36:06You don't have to deal with a bi-week going forward.
36:09You know, he's, he's been used around the goal line, had a couple of big performances and you know, if Bryce Young
36:17is balling out, he could do worse. I want to put Mike on the spot as a quick detour question right here because, uh, the bi-weeks are happening.
36:26Ken Walker is now through his bi. Oh, this, this, so this question popped up and I thought it was a great one.
36:34Oh, I can't wait to hear Mike answer it.
36:37So would you trade B. John Robinson away who has not yet had his bi to get Ken Bone Walker who has had his bi?
36:45Would you make that trade? And I, I feel like these two guys have been kind of interlinked on the trading talk for a while.
36:54Um, obviously the Falcons with Penix have looked very good, but I mean, Ken Walker is setting, setting a new standard.
37:01Yeah. That it's pretty, it's pretty tough here to figure this out.
37:05I'm trying to look at schedules. I mean, you do.
37:08I mean, in essence, you get one, you do, you get a Ken Walker, you get a bonus game, an extra game
37:15of the guy who is outscoring B. John by like three and a half fantasy points a week so far.
37:22Yeah. I was, I went and looked at the game logs for B.
37:26John. He's, he's awesome. Then I went and looked at them for Ken Walker and they're out of this world.
37:33Yeah. So the, honestly, between the two of those guys and we're very early, we're through five weeks.
37:39I'm looking at weeks 15 through 17. I know for those two players in particular.
37:44So I, but I was, I've already know them.
37:47I already know the week 16. I looked at this is Washington, right?
37:51In week 16. B. John is Washington, Tampa, new Orleans.
37:55Yeah. So that's, that's not bad. That's not bad.
37:58And then Ken Walker is Patriots, San Francisco chargers.
38:01Those are worse. That's worse. That's that is worse.
38:04That's worse. But you get, but you get an extra game to get to the playoffs.
38:09And obviously I don't know if those matchups are overwhelming.
38:12Like if you throw Minnesota, if you throw, I know, dude, I look, I look because I always think about this trade
38:20with you and me because you are the Ken bone man.
38:24And I, and I'm looking at, and I just don't ever know what I would do if you had the guts to send that to me.
38:32Yeah. I don't know what I would. I don't know what I would do.
38:37I see B. John's Jersey up over my shoulder.
38:40B. John has. By the way, they gave me the stick.
38:44Yeah. They gave me the flag stick and the flag for the hole in one over there at grass clipping.
38:50So you just have to shout out. You just have to shoot the ball 2,400 times.
38:56That's it. And you get a free stick and pay them tons of money to rent it and everything.
39:02But B. John is like, B. John's like 40 yards, 40 rushing yards ahead of Kenneth Walker with an extra game.
39:09Yeah. No, I think I would, I think I would take the Ken Walker side, but it's an interesting conversation that I
39:16think the biggest fear to me is just, we've seen Kenneth Walker injured plenty of times in his career.
39:23And B. John is, you know, a young iron man at this point, either player could get injured.
39:29Sure. That's like my only consideration is just, I don't think the wheels fall off.
39:34You know, I just don't think. You have to have Brian Robinson and Kenneth Johnson for these guys.
39:40Yes. Regardless. By the way, Higby, Kyle Pitts, Mayer, the other three names.
39:44Higby is a great start this week against the Arizona Cardinals.
39:48Oh, yeah. I mean, look at what Laporta did last week.
39:52Yeah. He was the start of the week last week and killed it.
39:56Everybody. And then do you buy into any of the Kyle Pitts resurgence, five for 42, gotten into the end zone?
40:03Or do you just ignore the player? I think I ignore it.
40:07All right. Let's take a break. We'll talk defenses, quarterback streamers as we continue the waiver wire.
40:13All right. Defensive options this week. There are a ton of matchups I love.
40:17I mean, New England takes on the Jets. New England's defense has been stepping up in a big way.
40:24Shut down the Raiders who had been moving the ball.
40:27Kansas City off the bye against the Chargers. Remember Andy Reid's numbers off of bye weeks?
40:32And then combine it with being at home? And then combine it with the Chargers and no...
40:38I mean, is that the best start of the week?
40:41It might be there. It might be the best defensive start.
40:45I mean, the Colts are... They get the privilege of playing the Tennessee Titans.
40:50And they're not going to score a lot of points.
40:53Pittsburgh plays Tampa Bay with Jalon Daniels. I love that start.
40:57Baltimore takes on Cleveland. Cleveland takes on Baltimore. If there's no Lamar, both might be viable.
41:02San Francisco's defense was out of control last week.
41:05San Francisco's defense is only 30% rostered. And I know that they've lost all their players.
41:10But you just have to give unbelievable mad props to the Niners and Shanahan.
41:15They're... They're getting it done. They're unbelievable. It's just crazy.
41:19They've lost all of their players. And I think Shanahan probably would have spiked the ball if he was the head coach of the Washington Commanders.
41:27I have a feeling he would have pulled that off.
41:31So, yeah. Those are the big names on the defensive side.
41:34Did you see the guffaw last night in the coaching?
41:38No. What happened last night? Well... I was hitting golf balls.
41:41Yeah, you were hitting a few golf balls at the end of the game to kick the field goal that won the game for the Bills.
41:50Yeah. They could have taken two knees to have the clock basically run out and then kick the field goal.
41:57Oh, and they left time on the clock? They left tons of time on the clock where if they had missed the field goal...
42:05Bring the Madden kid in here, man. You could lose the game so easily.
42:09A random kid on Madden can handle the clock better than these guys.
42:14I mean, Nick Sirianni this week... I don't blame Sirianni for that one.
42:18That was... I mean, that's on your specialties. Yeah, that's on the specialties.
42:22Well, it's funny because when the kick happened, it was like...
42:26The announcers made it sound like a good decision because they're like...
42:30Oh, you got to make him field it so he loses time off the clock.
42:35You know what I mean? Because you kick it out of the back of the end zone, you get eight seconds or whatever, and maybe that's two plays.
42:45And then after they ran it back 50 yards, they're like...
42:48Well, oh, wait. No, they don't have a timeout.
42:51You should have... It's a bit of revisionist history.
42:54It is. That one, you needed everything to be perfect.
42:58Yeah, just tackle a guy. Everything. Or don't tackle him yet.
43:01Yeah, or let one more second go off of the clock before it was...
43:06Everything had to be perfect. I rarely, rarely feel bad for Sirianni.
43:10This one, I feel a little bad for him.
43:13I mean, there's the rest of the game. You can go and see where he messed up.
43:19Well, special teams cost the Rams last night. They lost them the game.
43:23Oh, McVay was... You're talking about the sub-500 super team?
43:26Yes. Yeah, yeah. Who share a city with the currently 0-2 in the NLCS Dodgers?
43:31Are they really 0-2? I don't follow baseball, but is that true?
43:35They are clearly... Jason, who are they playing? Who cares?
43:39Super team's had a bad week in LA this week.
43:42And I am here for it. All right, that was the waiver wire presented by T-Mobile.
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43:59Full stream ahead. I am, you know, going to let you guys go first.
44:03Jason, why don't you start? You're the lowest rostered streamer.
44:07Sure. My guy is widely available, but I will say this.
44:11You're going to have a good time. Well, I'll...
44:14Yeah. You will have a good time. You'll have a terrible time first.
44:18Maybe. Yeah, no, always. It starts with a couple picks.
44:21I'm talking about Jameis Winston. You don't feel a lot like the hole-in-one challenge.
44:26Yeah, you got to stick with it. You got to...
44:29And I'm also... I'm talking to Matt Nagy as well.
44:33You got to stick with it, okay? Don't pull him because there is always the world where he throws three picks and
44:40you pull him for nine or 18 now and get J.J.
44:44McCarthy out there. But if Jameis plays a whole game, he's going to end up with so many counting stats.
44:50That's all he does. He's going to throw for 300 yards.
44:54He might throw for three touchdowns. And this is a great matchup against the Saints.
44:59Their pace of play. We target these games. I know that the other two guys are more rostered, but specifically, Mike, your
45:06start of the week is my number one waiver wire pickup overall by a mile.
45:11He's rostered in most leagues, but he's still available in, what, 37% of leagues.
45:16The next two weeks, he's a week winner. It is.
45:19Jordan Love, a.k.a. Mr. Check This Out, who... Check this out.
45:23Hey, check this out. I don't know. Did they figure something out?
45:27It might have just been the Bears. It might have just been the Bears.
45:32I don't know. Is it a Packers thing? We've had a couple games against the Bears where we thought people figured it out.
45:40The Dallas Cowboy game, you're going to want pieces of this.
45:43The Cowboys defense is 31st in EPA per dropback, 32nd in dropback success rate.
45:48Like this, they're so bad. And based off of the heating up of Jordan Love last week, I'm pretty excited to...
45:55If I got him on my teams or just checking the waiver wire, because about 40%, he's there.
46:01The next three weeks, he plays the 26th worst defense for fantasy quarterbacks, the 31st worst defense for quarterbacks, and the 27th
46:08worst defense for quarterbacks for fantasy purposes. Like, you're going to have a real nice time throwing the ball.
46:15And Stafford is the QB2 for a lot of teams out there.
46:19He started in far fewer leagues than he's rostered in.
46:22And so I want to throw Stafford out there as a must start this week against Arizona.
46:28I think what's crazy right now is Stafford is averaging like 48 pass attempts a game, which is wild.
46:34And Arizona, they can find their way into the end zone a few times.
46:39Aaron Donald, looking forward to facing the Cardinals this week.
46:42Got his first sack last night. But implied point total of 33 this week.
46:47I'll throw Stafford in there as a final consideration for you if there's an opportunity to either get him or just play him over somebody else.
46:55Stafford's lined up here for a long time before the playoffs.
46:59You got Arizona, Raiders, Chargers, Washington, Arizona, Green Bay, this is after the bye week, Green Bay, Kansas City.
47:06And then in your week 14, though, is San Francisco.
47:09And in the middle of your playoffs is Seattle.
47:12Yeah, and if you're a week 18, it's Seattle, Tampa, Seattle for your three playoff weeks, which is crazy.
47:18But yeah, I mean, he's been like he's he's been much better than people realize.
47:23He's been the quarterback for three weeks. Yeah. Puka helps a lot.
47:27Certainly does. And then Adams around the goal line is unstoppable.
47:31They just they scheme up the McVay combo with Adams.
47:34Just ability to high point a ball. Two touchdowns last night for Adams.
47:39He had a good game. It wasn't 24 targets.
47:42It was seven. But he had a big game.
47:45So tomorrow we're going to do a fantasy draft.
47:48Redo the top 24 picks and preview the Thursday night game because football never stops.
47:53And then we have starts of the week matchup previews on Thursday and matchups and fantasy faceoff on Friday.
47:59So do not miss a minute of it. Justin Herbert threw the ball 24 times.
48:04Puka had 24 targets. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. Josh Allen threw at 19.
48:08Oh, my gosh. Puka had more targets than Josh Allen.
48:12There was no productive wide receiver for the Bills really.
48:15Other than Khalil Shakir had an overtime play that brought him down to the 20.
48:20Before, by the way, we didn't talk about this, but James Cook fumbled twice.
48:25Sure did. James Cook fumbled twice last night. 11 fumbles.
48:28He's got a bit of a problem. He does have a fumbling problem.
48:33And they, I mean, it's funny. Like Scadaboo and James Cook were 100% going to lose their team the game.
48:39And then. Bailed out. Bailed out. So that would have been more and more and more of a story.
48:46But that is going to do it. I need to go to sleep.
48:50That is going to do it for today's show.
48:53We'll be back tomorrow. Thank you for tuning in and supporting Andy's hole.
48:57And yeah. Enjoy the week. Good luck on the waiver wire.
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