0:00Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright Welcome in!
0:06Friday, October 16th, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Jason Moore is here, Mike, the Fantasy Hitman.
0:11I'm Andy Holloway. So? So we're back, Mike. They played football last night, that's what they call that.
0:16They did. And the Broncos, I mean the Broncos, what a team.
0:2017-14 in overtime over the defending champions. Dominant victory.
0:23Incredible offensive performances throughout. Hmm. Bo Nix had 17 completions for 107 yards.
0:27It had to be like the first quarter, I'm assuming.
0:30Took him 27 attempts. Oh, that's the whole game?
0:33Yeah, yeah, yeah. 27 attempts to get to 107 passing yards.
0:37On PrizePix, I had my, his passing completions. I was never scared.
0:41Less. Oh, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course.
0:44Man, he's, did you guys see the Fitzpatrick? Yes.
0:46I didn't get to watch it. Oh, baby. It's so good because it is...
0:51You said he was like dishonoring the quarterback position or something?
0:54Yes. It's so good because it is real. It is not networked and, you know...
0:59Do we, I mean, is it possible for us to put that on here?
1:04No, we can't do that. We can't do that.
1:07Don't do that. Don't do that. But basically what he said...
1:10Read a transcription of it though. He said he's just, I mean, he said what we're all seeing, which is he is not playing competitive football.
1:18I believe he said it was disrespectful to the quarterback position.
1:22Absolutely. I saw something that was like... It was disrespectful to us watching.
1:26To my eyeballs? Yes. There were like 1600, you know, times where Bo Nix was in a certain situation where he...
1:33And he was the first one of all time like to run out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage.
1:39What are you doing? Throw the ball away. It was really frustrating to watch and part of it for me, this is
1:46speaking, this is the quote, is Bo Nix is not playing competitively.
1:50It's almost disrespectful to the quarterback position, how he's playing the game right now.
1:55First of all, the guy... You talking about that winner?
1:58The guy doesn't want to throw the ball. That's fine, Fitzpatrick said.
2:02He's throwing it to the flats, he's throwing behind, but he has no trust from his coach.
2:07Payton calls a screen play on third and eight.
2:10Just run up and let the clock keep going.
2:13What does he do? He throws it away. Seattle gets the ball, they have a timeout, and then an overtime, blah, blah, blah, they come back.
2:21He got really fired up about the run. I don't remember if it was regulation or in overtime, but probably regulation.
2:28You talking about the run to the right side?
2:31Yes. Yeah, that was the final... And you watch Fitzpatrick back the day out there when he's got to run to pick something up?
2:38Oh. Body is on the line. The only thing that matters was that one yard, and Bo Nix...
2:44Not willing. We're not there yet, and it's very confusing.
2:47I mean, his ankle, we have to remember, he destroyed his ankle back in the playoff game against the Bills.
2:54He had... I think he had Betts injury, man, please, if you remember.
2:58I think there was multiple cleanups, including one that was more recent to closer to training camp.
3:03I don't think there's any of that that stops him from turning up field.
3:08Or throwing down field. No. Does he throw with his ankle?
3:11Yeah, but just I'm saying the run, like the mental block of being scared that you're going to hurt your ankle again.
3:18He threw for 107 yards. Yes. His coach does not have confidence in him.
3:23Dobbins was 17 for 41. Luckily, Dobbins and Harvey scored because the total offensive production was embarrassing.
3:28Waddle, unplayable. Oh, we got... No, no, no. This, guys.
3:32I don't even know if you realized it because the game was so bad.
3:36This was vintage Waddle. He got knocked out of the game, guys.
3:40Yeah. He missed... It didn't matter if he was in it or not.
3:44Same yardage. But then he came back. Yeah. Jalen Waddle style.
3:48Yeah. This game, it got a little bit exciting when it was like going to overtime and who's going to win.
3:54But the, you know, three and a half quarters of this game were just brutal to watch.
4:00So boring. JSN, awesome. He's always going to get hit.
4:03He got there. I mean, always. It felt a little sketchy.
4:06That was another one. I had more on like 93 and a half receiving yards.
4:11And... Moron. And first half he had like nothing.
4:14Yeah. I was not... This was the least scared I've ever been.
4:18Nice. I was like, it's going to happen. It always happens with JSN.
4:22And Seattle... I mean, Darnold, two picks. Two ugly ones.
4:25Seattle saw what was going on with Emmanuel Wilson and they're like, this is just way too good for what is happening for fantasy football purposes.
4:34You know who we got to get touches to?
4:37Bayless Jones Jr. To be fair. That is disgusting.
4:39Helani when given a few opportunities. He was a sicko.
4:43Helani was... He had some really nice runs there, including the touchdown.
4:46But the game was boring. So yeah, you know, at this point moving forward with Broncos players, you are terrified.
4:53As I said, Broncos and Chargers. Listen. Not playing them.
4:56I have Bo Nix because he has a game against Arizona next week and I am actively looking for a pivot.
5:03Yeah, I don't know if I... I'm looking for a pivot because the basic philosophy...
5:08Trying to see if Cam Ward's out there. Yeah, the philosophy for Denver is if we have any sort of lead or
5:15we're close, just pretend like we have a 60 point lead and play that offense, which is just protect the ball, don't
5:22screw up, don't take sacks, hand it off, and punt it and let our defense try to score.
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5:41Let's go ahead and jump into some news. News and notes from around the league.
5:46The Colts released Darius Slayton who never played. Can you release someone that never played?
5:51Apparently. And what's wild is... It's like a tree falling in the woods.
5:55...is they had let go of like, like the Giants let go of OBJ.
5:59Yeah. And they signed Braxton Berrios and then they let go of him.
6:04Well, he was injured. He got hurt. Yeah. But like Darius Slayton had he not been signed and not played by the
6:11Colts probably would have returned to the Giants and maybe played, but it doesn't matter.
6:15The Eagles. Saquon Barkley did not practice again on Thursday.
6:19Devontae Smith limited on Thursday. Dontavion Wicks did not practice Thursday.
6:22Good Lord. Hamstrings for all of them. And also...
6:25Yeah. We should re-bring back up the Jalen Hurts news.
6:28Yeah, Jalen Hurts. Because that was towards the end of the show.
6:32We got breaking news on yesterday's podcast. And if you did not hear it, Jalen Hurts, it was reported that he is
6:39going to miss this week's game with what was described as a superficial blood clot in his calf.
6:45Later reports seem to imply that the clot had moved and that this could be a more potentially serious situation where...
6:52Look, we went through this with Chris Olave last year who missed an extended period of time.
6:57The report on Hurts right now is his... There's no imminent return.
7:01Yeah. It's just out indefinitely. The latest... There's a tweet here from John Clark, who is from NBC Philly.
7:07He says, Jalen Hurts could miss more than one game.
7:10It could be weeks or months. And then if he's on blood thinners, you really cannot play.
7:16It's just like... Which a lot of it could do.
7:19It's a legit scary thing what Jalen Hurts is having to deal with right now.
7:24And they signed Joe Milton this morning. Yeah. I...
7:27It's too early. We're waiting for more reports. But based on the history of this type of thing and what you need
7:34to do with the blood thinners, looks like it's going to be three months.
7:38So for fantasy purposes... Man. If it's three months, that's everything.
7:42Yeah. That would be the rest of your year.
7:44And again, we say, oh man, Devontae Smith, maybe he's coming back.
7:48Okay. Without Jalen Hurts... I don't know if he gets back this week.
7:52It's terrifying. Devontae Smith gets a downgrade rest of the season and...
7:56Would you even want to play him coming off of...
8:00No. If he's active? No, I wouldn't. Yeah. I get to play him.
8:04Well, I probably don't get to play him against Mike in our dynasty league, but watch out if I do.
8:10Yeah. We'll see who's the starter and how long they're the starter and what happens in nightmare season now for Philadelphia.
8:17Kyle Mononga did not practice again on Thursday, recovering from toe and thumb injuries.
8:21Caleb Williams practiced in full again. So he'll be back.
8:24He had a weird press conference. A weirdly aggressive press conference where he would not reveal the grade on his hamstring tear.
8:32Oh, that was kind of embarrassing. It was embarrassing.
8:34He was really upset about how things were reported.
8:37He's like, there were false reports, so I'm not going to tell you the truth about it.
8:43That'll help. That... But guys, it was a... It was porn.
8:46Caleb. It was really serious. That's not how we do it, man.
8:50That doesn't... Yeah, just say it was a grade one and...
8:54That turns into us doing this conversation. Yeah, this conversation doesn't happen unless you, you know...
8:59You just gotta... You put your face into it.
9:02Go out there, play football. Just say... It was whatever grade...
9:05It was grade one. It was grade two. It hurt.
9:08I'm practicing. I'm gonna go out there. I'm gonna ball out.
9:12Yeah. I won't tell you. It didn't stop me from showering.
9:15You know what I mean? Uh, Lamar Jackson did not practice again on Thursday.
9:20So, the latest on him... He could still play, but...
9:23I really doubt it. Come on, Lamar. I really, really doubt that he plays this week.
9:28Quinshawn Judkins did not practice again on Thursday. We expect him to miss.
9:32Junkins. Junkins. Junkins. Junkins. Junkins. Junkins. Junkins. Junkins. Junkins.
9:35Junkins. Junkins. Junkins. Junkins. Junkins. Junkins. Junkins. not done yet jay i know it it's an illness so hopefully he is good
9:42to go by sunday but it stinks and we have some matchups today we'll get into jeremiah i love to not practice
9:49again thursday with his ankle injury they're trying to take it easy rashi rice did not practice again thursday cool there it
9:56is waiting for yeah so i uh i will say this he's reminder they're coming off the bye week he's not practicing
10:03wednesday or thursday he's not playing like there's this is no and they signed justin watson yeah rashi rice if you've got
10:10him uh don't have him in your lineup dj moore didn't practice i don't expect him to play with the bye week
10:17coming up and mike evans did not practice i didn't like the report no we don't it's his ribs but it's also
10:25now achilles soreness we do not like that it's everything and i don't think it matters i mean he's the one guy
10:32that's like if he doesn't practice all week i don't like that word ever well i get it because usually when you
10:39hear achilles it's you tore your achilles not sore that's not as well we had a sore achilles once his name was
10:46kevin durant in the nba finals and it was sore for game one and game two we had one on the 49ers
10:53called christian mccaffrey it was sore and then it was tore well if he plays i would imagine you're playing him right
11:00i mean because mike evans so far this year while he's been injured and hasn't been practicing if he's out there and
11:07active he is pretty much a a must start he's had one game with less than double digit what else do we
11:14have we have jcm not practicing due to a groin injury yeah his was interesting because like he was playing great on
11:21sunday and then he was gone and we didn't really talk about it so here it is yeah okay so many injuries
11:28so much to talk about more matchups and we'll uh we'll make up for one situation we forgot yesterday due to the
11:35breaking jalen hurts news as well fantasy forecast presented by prize picks yesterday we did talk through the texans jags game in
11:42london bears falcons ravens browns titans colts jets patriots saints giants panthers eagles six more matchups to talk through today we also
11:49have the fantasy face-off to finish the show but while the jalen hurts news broke we had been talking about the uh
11:56the saints game and that caused us to forget to talk about the running backs for the saints which is a potentially
12:03good thing that we didn't talk about maybe that's the gift that we gave but i don't have a miller the name
12:10of the listener who is look my friend you are down bad you are down bad if this is what we're talking
12:17about so who what was the snap breakdown last week so i'm seeing uh camara at 12 snaps kendra at 14 and
12:24cj donaldson at 19 yes this game was put away right it was a blowout no no the saints were not crushed
12:31last week by a bazillion points it was close enough it was 23 to 13 final score that ain't a bazillion point
12:38where i don't think you're you're you know benching guys it was definitely a handling the the the saints offense couldn't really
12:45do anything against the vikings the vikings offense should have been able to do more but they couldn't they did enough um
12:52but yeah it was like camara last week he only had five opportunities 12 snaps he had three carries one fewer than
12:59cj donaldson and even though donaldson led in snaps um it really was when they ran the ball was kendra miller kendra
13:07had 10 uh 10 rushing attempts and so it's kind of a it's it's a duty situation i mean it's like i
13:14don't really duty and this ain't no duty free no no you're not saving taxes not d-u-t-y this is uh this has
13:21got there's the battle the other one jay yeah d-o-o-d-y is that how you spell duty i'd go ie yeah i would
13:28too me too but you can do it you pass the 10 you can do it however you want to do it
13:35uh but yeah it's it's disgusting if i had to start one of them i think i would start kendra miller for
13:42potential touchdown i actually i'll say this i have liked what i've seen from cj donaldson before like he's he's had some
13:49snaps where he's i mean he's a rookie and had some some plays that he looked okay but i mean how about
13:56none yeah that's what i'm saying no i'm saying you're down bad my friend i will say that this kendra miller is
14:03in the popular start sits travis h and jr is really really really taking the michael penix approach and it worked very
14:10well where penix was just like just watch to a play and then i'll look great did not get back out there
14:17too it was going to be the starter and then they watched him and they're like dude we need penix so bad
14:24and right now it's like we need travis h and jr would you play damian pierce with the mess yes i would
14:31or would you play kendra miller i'd play pierce all right all right first matchup for today the steelers at three and
14:38two at the tampa bay buccaneers who just got their first win they're one and four it's in tampa the vegas line
14:45is pittsburgh minus two and a half over under 39 and a half the the tampa bay defense has actually been yeah
14:52they've been good and then they were even better last week in a game where we expected them to lose um this
14:59is the second lowest like over under number of any game in week six and you can see kind of why i
15:06mean i don't understand how jalen daniels uh gets it done against pittsburgh i mean their offense is like a mecca bucca
15:13nine targets turned into something like 39 receiving yards last week if you watch daniels play and this will probably be his
15:20last start for the for the tampa bay buccaneers if you watch him play he has it's like 1001 i'm running that's
15:27about how it goes there's no check downs there's very rarely you know we saw a lot of that with baker with
15:34with bucky um i wouldn't count on receiving work with bucky he was lucky last week he did get one uh pass
15:41on the six yard line he scored on it bucky will get 15 plus opportunities in this game it'll be against a
15:48pittsburgh defense built to stop him on the other side rogers has been playing pretty good football but you know to me
15:56i looked at his prize picks projection which was 231.5 we have our fantasy forecast at the end of the show taking
16:03his less was on the board for him most of the week it didn't end up in my lineup but i would
16:10expect this to be a very low scoring game the running games get it done and ultimately i think pittsburgh will be
16:17kind of the bigger bully here but what do you guys think about your start sit decisions with guys like you know
16:24dk metcalf abuca yeah with with those guys i i don't want to play them i think that there are better options
16:31out there um abuca finally had a good game but remember it was a rushing touchdown that's not going to be happening
16:38on the regular and the passing work just wasn't there from jaylen daniels dk metcalf is like you can always start him
16:45because you know he's going to get nine targets in this game will he get you know 30 yards i don't know
16:52i doubt it um yeah last week was the first time he didn't get the target so it's even more scary jalen
16:59warren is dog uh he's amazing you can't not play him back week one for rica i'm just mentioning it yeah yeah
17:06they said that when he comes back it's going to go back to a to a time chart i believe that i
17:13recently the most recent thing i saw from mccarthy was like warren's our dude right now yeah i don't believe it whatsoever
17:20and we're gonna ride the hot hand he they have to he's been 7.5 5.5 6.7 to carry for the last three
17:27weeks on pace for 1800 yards i mean he's been up there with i mean he's been playing like bijon i mean
17:34that sounds outrageous but every time he touches the ball he's great he's had breakaway runs right now nfl leaders in yards
17:41from scrimmage he's number three behind bijon um and he wasn't you know the full workhorse guy to start the year so
17:48warren is in bucky irving is in he's getting enough opportunities every game and i think that you're not going to pass
17:55on the steelers as easy as you're going to run on the steelers the the bucks opportunity in this game is let
18:02their defense has been playing good shut down aaron rogers you're at home and then run the ball as much as you
18:09can so to me it's like bucky irving jalen warren in abuka dk metcalf and pat fry me we're not even talking
18:16about germy i'm pumped man yeah we'll talk about germy too i mean i just mean like the consolidation is starting to
18:23happen with pittsburgh where roman wilson michael pittman gone fry meath had two touchdowns last week 23 target share last week and
18:30then jerry bernard he was the one that had the nine targets metcalf only had four last week so the problem the
18:38problem with the germy hype is you'd love to have a much better matchup than agreed the lowest over under and a
18:45situation where you might be winning and handing the ball i would also say the biggest you know the biggest thing for
18:52me is it was one week um you know so it's like i need to see it again well i mean he's
18:59really had two opportunities and to be like out there as a starter and both opportunities he's gotten a bunch of targets
19:06this this one was far more production and there was bets i think you had shared it but i liked how he
19:13looked in week two like um there was something about you know rogers basically like quizzed bernard you're like he's like and
19:20gave him a whole bunch of scenarios whose fault is it always that's probably in there and he's like yes chef who's
19:27the best packers quarterback of all time but it's in like okay here's the coverage here's the situation where do you go
19:34and it's like and because aaron rogers doesn't want aaron rogers just trusts who he trusts and bernard yeah there it is
19:41it was from uh nick faribaw uh so like we he rogers extensively quizzed bernard about coverages in each situation of the
19:48colts like to run by down distance and that turned into nine targets for bernard so i like i don't he's not
19:55a must play by any means this week he was my number one pickup i think he's in like flex consideration but
20:02this is just this is would you rather play him than metcalf or it's pretty close i mean i see those guys
20:09similarly pretty close i would go metcalf ahead of bernard but bernard is on the must watch list like to me he's
20:16not someone i'm playing but i you got to keep your eyes on him because he's a rookie that looked good and
20:23has opportunity yeah the difference between the two is like metcalf has been getting kind of big boy targets you know further
20:30down the field so it only takes one or two to hit where bernard touchdown bernard will probably ppr his way yeah
20:37yeah he might as a bird he might mike uh the cardinals are one and four and they still get to play
20:44in the nfl they're taking on the rams in los angeles who are two and three the rams and the super team
20:51underneath 500 won't be for long they're favored by 12 and a half i'm told we got good news for jacoby brissette
20:58that he is no longer a member of the cardinals he no longer owns the lowest yards per attempt thank you because
21:05bonix the overrunner in this game is 51 and a half so you're like oh cool cardinals no they're at 19 the
21:12rams are at 32 let's start there start stafford start kyron start quorum start puka start davante start higby okay it was
21:19my start of the week i like that i didn't have a question on price if colby parkinson scores too yeah i
21:27wouldn't either i could also see a situation where they they don't need higby although the matchup against the cardinals tight end
21:34is so easy for ever um through multiple coaching staffs it's just like i don't know something in the uh something in
21:41the locker room but would you start fryer muth or higby because that's i think the exact level i would start higby
21:48on a team that is projected for 32 points instead of fryer muth on a team project that's 20 that's what i
21:55chose i'm playing him against you i just so that's my start of the week so i have to say that question
22:02in terms of confidence for quorum because i know points wise came through 14.7 uh points for fantasy that was nine opportunities
22:09if i can't play them over if i hear that would you oh yeah if i can bet quorum i would take
22:16the volume if i can bet whatever quorum's over in the fourth quarter like the way you know i i think that
22:23at the end of this game you're going to see uh quorum making people going to next week being like oh it's
22:30a it's a split it's a split now for the rams because that's what happens if they're going to blow out the
22:37cardinals which they very well might maybe the cardinals put on a loss now cardinals we're already going to get killed now
22:44sean mcveigh is furious yeah so it's not going to be hard i would imagine if you're up two scores in the
22:51fourth quarter you're gonna you're gonna work quorum into this game and if you work quorum in it's going to work like
22:58he's going to succeed so i i don't mind starting quorum michael wilson's prize projections is five and a half reception price
23:05picks price picks thank you prize picks projection at five and a half reception gosh darn it i did not see that
23:12one well look i i actually am pretty worried about wilson this week i are you i almost put him his less
23:19projection into my wow yes i i am i'm pretty worried about six catches yeah i mean that that's i mean that
23:26i like that more than a yardage number yes oh yeah yeah no i don't want yards but to be fair i
23:33mean he's he's had two games uh actually three of his five games he's not had six sketches so it's not been
23:40quite as easy duffy it's not been quite as easy and and you know you want to let jaylon or what is
23:47it let jaylon brooks and kendrick born and these guys i ride and wilson were double teamed on every play last week
23:54jacobie brissette's not playing good football cardinals have no explosive running game jeremiah love might miss i don't i don't think jeremiah
24:01love plays in this game what i've been seeing from beat reporters is like there's kind of an expectation not not saying
24:09he he you know absolutely is is out he could play but i think right now the real like him not playing
24:16is very realistic you have to be prepared for that to happen if that happens obviously tyler algier all alone still you're
24:23playing against the rams not a great matchup but all alone i mean the opportunity is great i'd play i'd play algier
24:30above that whole like damian pierce uh range players i just think it's going to be a painful week for the cardinals
24:37you always play mcbride of course algier if he's alone you have an option to throw him out there in that same
24:44tier as pierce and um whatever uh who's who's another kendra miller um yeah i'd play him over those guys if he's
24:51alone i've been so like unimpressed with algier on his opportunities am i stupid i mean he's averaging 3.4 a carry a
24:58lot of times his carries are those situational carries sure where you're you're expecting you're needing him to get a yard or
25:05two yards and if he gets two and a half yards it's like he did the play and it was good his
25:12yards per carry go down that's just kind of how he's been utilized he's been more of the he's been worked into
25:19the passing game enough where i think he hasn't done much in the passing game but targets are there if he's alone
25:26there's enough opportunity okay uh let's take a break and we'll get into some more matchups unless mike you have anything else
25:33to add in that one i do not you still a huge cardinal fan i do brother i really enjoyed my life
25:40has been unburdened yeah oh it's we got that bid well out we have we like there's an actual movement which way
25:47hey shout out to mr az sports getting this one going like there's a where people are raising money we're putting billboards
25:54up uh to get rid of build war bid well ownership which won't happen it won't happen but i i love the
26:01effort i love what's going on but i'm just like okay because because you don't it bothers me not i don't care
26:08and i like that's a that's a pure honest i'm not doing a bit like i'm just i've removed myself mentally emotionally
26:15yep yeah they can't hurt me anymore stupid chargers giving us one win it's gonna ruin our draft i swear when it
26:22happened freaking chargers all right we'll take a break we'll be right back and talk about those sweet sweet chargers going on
26:29the road to kansas city why why i know i know i know why okay but why why are these like hyper
26:36controlling stupid owners of teams never able to like reach a point at any juncture of their lives where they just decide
26:43i will change people change all the time human beings change i think it's the billions yeah see that's why i said
26:50i know the answer to the question do infinitely wealthy people change that's yeah no no they don't no no because they
26:58live in bubbles and they make their employees clap for them as they walk through the uh entirety of the cardinals building
27:05and and when you think when you give up control i don't bidwell could own the team that's the if he gave
27:12up all control there are only two ways out of the mess in arizona one is that bidwell sells the team that's
27:19not going to happen no the other is that he gives up president of football operations control hires a legit person that
27:26person hires the gm and they go to work and also they get permission to spend money you actually had a brief
27:33time in arizona where this happened yes and it was when bruce arians was given a huge opportunity and power and control
27:40of this team and he has the kind of personality that would match like tomlin coming in or somebody that is going
27:47to be demonstratively convicted about their opinions and bruce arians and the cardinals had a successful run and for a long period
27:54of time they they had a good team they went to the nfc title game the palmer carson palmer era was very
28:01strong but now now it is now it is yes man all right the chargers are oh and five and they have
28:08a projected or an implied point total of 17 and they've failed to hit their implied total in four or five anyways
28:15the chiefs are four and oh the game's in arrowhead the chiefs are seven and a half point favorites the over under
28:22is 41 i mean the nfl surprises us all the time yeah yeah yeah seven and a half surprises me this is
28:29a divisional matchup a very important game uh obviously for the chargers for the coaching staff um for the human beings pride
28:36and they're going to give it all they got now with that out of the way they are about to have their
28:43pants pulled down and spanked on their bottom so hard by the kansas city chiefs it's unbelievable they're coming off of a
28:50bye to a team that is an atrocious disaster of a mess with no offensive line other than rookies and i mean
28:57they're just they're going to embarrass them is how i see this happen the chargers will play very hard in this game
29:04because it's a divisional game they don't have the personnel i am the contrarian who wants to click buttons i want to
29:11yeah i want to click buttons and say the chargers are going to find a way i just don't see the path
29:18because you look if you told me that the bet is on one quarter i think the chargers could have one quarter
29:25i don't think you can do it over the course of this game and i think the start sit decisions in this
29:32game are beyond painful i mean there's not you shouldn't play chargers you shouldn't play chargers you shouldn't play any of them
29:39you shouldn't play lad because he's injured if he's active he's not healthy you shouldn't play hampton because maybe he's not even
29:47the running back you should play on this team you're gonna laugh so hard when we get to the fantasy face-off because
29:54i have a player from this game and a line a number from this game and you're going to crack up when
30:01i when i read it to you i can't wait to hear if it's more or less i can't wait yeah you
30:08will laugh but i don't i don't think you start arguments a single one i mean charlie coler ran more routes than
30:15gadsden just forget it just forget it mike do you have any disagreement there no forget it play mahomes uh play ken
30:22walker who has 16 of his runs over 10 yards which is insane oh man the seahawks could have used him huh
30:29the receiver i think it's the seahawks scheme man like i know helani kind of had a couple things here there last
30:36night but watch that was my overall takeaway from the running back room is watching that watching how kenneth walker is used
30:43on the on the kansas city chiefs because he's the same guy and and like i still think he was good for
30:50seattle he wasn't he wasn't ripping off 16 of his runs for 10 or more yards oh you have mahomes it goes
30:57along it goes a long way i mean well they were super bowl champs and darnold and jsn i mean look it
31:04goes a long way the scheme and to your point about like we had this conversation on the footcast yesterday um which
31:11is our extra episode for the foot clan about hampton's bottoming dynasty value the scheme is not right for hampton in los
31:18angeles if you look at what he was successful at compared to what they're doing with him in los angeles it's it's
31:25a it's not right so if you say redemption at 22 years old you know he's 21 22 years old get to
31:32a different scheme yeah get to a different play call but here's the question of the game the question of the game
31:39is who would you take a shot at to get some value at wide receiver for the chiefs because rashi rice won't
31:46be there xavier worthy coming off the bye they have injuries throughout this offense like worthy's going to get his opportunities in
31:53this game taequann thornton had his ankle injury he's done he's done for the year so you are down basically two of
32:00your three starters so then the next guy up who has the most experience is definitely xavier worthy um it seems like
32:07if we're looking at how things worked last week you had jalen royals come in for the rashi rice role and you
32:14had uh rookie cyrus allen come in for the taequann thornton role now that was mid-game things changed they've had a bye
32:21week so they have a new plan and a new scheme so i'm gonna bet on the best player like that's you
32:29know it's like yeah why don't you tell me who that is i think it's cyrus allen i i think i know
32:36that that's a late round rookie pick this year but he's a he's a quality wide receiver he had a bunch of
32:43drumbeat in camp and you know we said like don't draft guys like this because they don't they don't get on the
32:50field to start their career but they do get on the field if they're good and it usually takes something like this
32:57so i think higher odds is a is it is xavier worthy has the most fantasy points of these guys and all
33:04of these guys are pretty irrelevant for fantasy points they run the ball like crazy against the chargers i'm not excited to
33:11start any wide receiver but i think the upside play is cyrus allen because i don't think xavier worthy is like a
33:18great wide receiver yeah yeah i i listen i made this decision this week i had xavier worthy i could have played
33:25him i have bye weeks i need a guy i went with kendrick born of the cardinals exactly i took kendrick born
33:32over because i think xavier worthy is kind of now in a position you don't expand what his like strengths are because
33:39of an injury he does the gadgetry stuff the end arounds the screens the occasional deep pass um and he to to
33:46go back to cyrus allen he is a great player if you're looking for someone to stash you've got an extra bench
33:53spot you know sometimes sometimes you can't you like oh i have nobody to drop sometimes like i gotta pick someone up
34:00if that's the case cyrus allen is available in like 92 percent of leagues interesting yeah and kelsey i mean he should
34:07benefit from the the wide receiver you know injuries and stuff would you play xavier worthy or jeremy bernard mike um i
34:14i think i'd play bernard i think kelsey's the real true winner here yeah he should have a lot of opportunity and
34:21then also possibly the passing work to kenneth walker yeah or even johnson uh the bills are four and one they take
34:28on the three and two los angeles or las vegas raiders formerly the los angeles raiders uh the vegas oakland raiders right
34:35the vegas line is buffalo minus four and a half the over-under is a beautiful majestic 53.5 because ain't nobody believing in
34:42the buffalo defense doing nothing doing good work that's fun this game should be like do you love this game i i
34:49love this game i love the buffalo bills the buffalo bills offense has been absolutely indestructible it doesn't matter who so long
34:56as josh allen is there they're going to put up so many points and their defense i mean it's wonderful i feel
35:03like this is there's a lot of green they're not good a lot of green they're just not good charts here yeah
35:10if you want to like wonder if josh allen will have to he-man himself over and over this year it's looking like
35:18it's looking like that's so great a potential way he stays tippy top of the board i mean we don't talk about
35:25allen and cook their auto starts every week i don't think dj more is on the field so you know mike you're
35:32taking your shot that dalton kinkade rises from the depths of the grave we're going we're going one more i i understand
35:39it we're going i don't i don't know if i do it but i understand why you do it keon coleman kalil
35:46shakir shakir last week was the most productive wide receiver the coleman has more of an upside play between the two of
35:53them there's this tier of guys so trey tucker my start of the week on the other side in this game i
36:00would start over keon coleman i would start over xavier worthy from the chiefs like that tier of guys um just because
36:07i i feel more confident that he will be the wide receiver of the team versus like is it coleman is it
36:14secure i don't i don't know yeah yeah so i i think um on the other side there are a lot more
36:21questions jason you brought up trey tucker because of the defensive the lack of defense for the bills and the opportunity for
36:28him obviously bowers is your lock but what are you doing with these i mean what do you do with the rest
36:35of these guys like the running back room who you know i don't know if mike washington was banged up and that's
36:42why he got one opportunity it was confusing but now he's off the board for me like i i don't see a
36:49healthy genti not being played by a fantasy no you're still playing him yeah definitely in this matchup you have to yeah
36:56any other thoughts on like cousins as a streamer he he's definitely there it's like the cousins is in that cousins or
37:03rogers this week cousins this game has a high over under i think i'd go cousin i mean they're they're very similar
37:10archetypes you're not going to get rushing yards you're looking for passing yards and passing touchdowns one of them is playing a
37:17good tampa bay team on the road in tampa bay as far as defensively and one is playing a great buffalo bills
37:24team that's going to score on you you're at home and also they are bad at defense i i think kirk cousins
37:31is a fine play dallas two and three taking on the green bay packers and lambeau packers with a big win last
37:38week three and two now vegas line green bay minus one and a half so that's fun also the over under is
37:4553 and a half that's fun i think this game might just be fun sunday night football 53 and a half point
37:52over under almost a pick them game yeah i mean awesome i see three starts of the week on the packer side
38:00we did jordan love marshawn lloyd and matthew golden in our starts of the week segment yesterday christian watson's an auto play
38:07as is tucker craft and i think craft is coming around the thing i wanted to see that i said for a
38:14few weeks is everything was like screen passes and short stuff i wanted to see a downfield target caught a 49 yard
38:21pass that it was almost a 70 yard touchdown last week i want to see that progression it's exciting also the dependency
38:28on the passing game helps him and golden watson do you guys where i didn't get a lot of thoughts from you
38:35on whether you disagreed on the lloyd opportunity this week i don't disagree on the opportunity he was the back that received
38:42the work when the game was in hand and so if you're going to take a bet marshawn lloyd is the bet
38:49you're you're doing that against the dallas cowboys team that uh gives up a lot of points doesn't have a great run
38:56defense so everything makes sense i am happy that i am not the one that made him the start yeah i'm not
39:03proud of the name he hasn't looked good outside of one run um and so but but i get it i mean
39:10the it's process versus results and hopefully the results come from the process process says lloyd should be a good start lloyd
39:17should get around 15 touches in this game and against the cowboys that should be a lot of fancy the cowboys are
39:24the single worst team against running backs in adjusted fancy oh dude i mean they give up 25.6 a game and they
39:31don't have a lot of guys on the green bay side it's going to be a lot of lloyd that bucky irving
39:38a lot of lloyd of like it just him oh yeah bucky like a video game just running horizontally back and forth
39:45until it opens up like this doesn't this doesn't work in the nfl oh wow against the dallas cowboys it did yeah
39:52i mean the uh you know every week we talk about dallas it's pretty easy to tell you to start it's the
39:59big four dak javante cd and george yep yeah what was your oh wow um my oh wow was wrong i was
40:06looking at the i was looking at the price projections 65 and a half receiving yards for matthew golden i but i
40:13i was i thought i was still on uh lloyd and i thought it was 65 and a half rushing yards for
40:20lloyd i was like what is it for lloyd wow um i can't have that it can't be that all right we'll
40:27take a break you can tell us on the on the other side we'll talk monday night football all right uh do
40:34you happen to have the number for marshall lloyd 42 and yeah that makes which is why i was like oh wow
40:4162 well we're going to get into fantasy forecast and you're our face off and you're going to you're going to laugh
40:49at one of the numbers that i found um monday night football is the washington commanders who were one three and one
40:56taking on the undefeated san francisco 49ers who are seven and a half point favorites the over-under is 51 and a half
41:03so the last three games we've talked about over 50 point over under mike you have brock purdy as your start of
41:10the week oh man he's he's going to score a lot of points this week you have now do you do you
41:17feel the same way about purdy if i told you that like evans was out this week no really i do see
41:24i i don't i don't i don't think he's the magic key to making this all work so far this season i'm
41:31like if mike evans is out i'm still playing brock purdy but where i don't know if i'm like a start of
41:38the week right i guess you feel good i feel good about it in the matchup the you know the commanders are
41:45literally dead last in fantasy points to quarterbacks and that's all quarterbacks obviously it's better with mike evans but around the goal
41:52line instead of passing the ball to mike evans they'll pass the ball to christian mcafree or george and um they just
41:59always get it done always and would you start any wide receiver though if evans no no i i wouldn't know if
42:06it was brandon cooks christian kirk is back at practice yeah we'll say christian kirk is a name to monitor i just
42:13picked him up in our league of record jic because he was he's a very forgotten man like he was a he
42:20was a big addition or you know relative he was an addition he was an addition he was a mid-level addition i
42:27mean he was pretty bad last year yeah i was gonna say he's kind of tough he's kind of cook he might
42:34be but he will like he will get a ton of snaps for this team who is hurting at wide receiver who's
42:41older christian kirk or brandon cooks i don't know but i mean i have to assume it's cooks but i don't know
42:48for sure why don't you tell me yeah that's like a question you might have the answer uh christian kirk is about
42:55to turn 30 oh brandon cooks is 33 yeah those are your options now but kiddle awesome kiddle's going to i don't
43:02know be the tight end two on the week because brock powers exists he had kind of a down week last week
43:09right uh yeah five four 24 no touchdown yeah uh thought you were gonna the injuries are outrageous right now for the
43:16commanders we got reports this morning jacori kroski merit is not at practice again it's friday so it seems like he'd be
43:23out but don't worry rashad white and eckler are wearing non-contact jerseys they're both hurt terry mccloren where's fat man terry mccloren
43:31had rest day put up the fat signal oh man he's got to put up the fat signal you're talking about the
43:38guy they don't even have anyone yes the commanders need him seems like katron allen would be he should just show up
43:45be like hey guys so if jcm was out i'm here if jcm was out would you play like the the 49ers
43:52defense their one vulnerability so far 25th against running backs would you play eckler no not because a man in a non-contact
43:59jersey yeah who do you play then if eckler was healthy i would absolutely play eckler in this matchup but i yeah
44:06but but who else is gonna play it seems like if they were i mean that's all i'm saying you have an
44:13issue that it's monday night we know that the 49ers um like they do up they do give up more receptions to
44:20running backs than like you would expect it's in terms of what that player is expected to do so i don't hate
44:27it from a like a low level i feel like i would make that move like i'm i'm thinking about that in
44:34a league where i have very slim like i'd play him over mike washington for sure yes i would play him over
44:41mike washington the the opportunity is there it's just is he healthy what's what's the current health status of rashad white i
44:48mean i know he has he's also in and on contact he has the same type i think they're trying to keep
44:55those guys from getting more hurt before they activate them i think those would be your two starters if those two guys
45:02are both active then i'm i'm kind of out yeah so terry mclaurin is on a rest date stefan diggs is practicing
45:09yes oh really piece of good news he's practicing today which stefan which being a uh you know a monday night that's
45:16basically yesterday missing the thursday practice usually is like a bad thing but having a wednesday practice off would be fine that's
45:23basically what his is so i mean they need him here with no running game i would start jayden daniels for sure
45:30he's going to be the running game he had over a hundred rushing yards last week hey you really can't sit even
45:37if the matchup's bad and the projected point total's bad you can't sit a guy who ran for 100 yards yeah so
45:44that makes sense and you're gonna have to monitor some of these injuries heading into the weekend we have the the injury
45:51blitz podcast that comes out this afternoon by our injury expert matthew betts that's part of the foot clan at jointhefoot.com we
45:58do have a couple injury updates right now saquon not practicing again on friday seems like he'll be out davante smith and
46:05don'tan wicks are practicing okay so you can tanner mckee your way to a loss and lamar jackson not practicing again on
46:12friday so that sucks for zay flowers and yeah lamar mar managers yeah so uh any other thoughts on this game or
46:20should we move on to the face on oh boy fantasy face off presented by prize picks lucky me back to back
46:27boys i was off to a good start and now i'm back to my comfortable spot at the bottom wheel of shame
46:34all right spin it all right we got uh some snack something captain noodle oh oh the pink pony club pink pony
46:41club oh boy look at you little beautiful way we didn't get my gloves or nothing bro yeah this is good enough
46:48put your face in a horse head well there he is it's a unicorn jason i apologize respect oh you look good
46:55in that oh yeah yeah this is nice this is not great well it's an upgrade oh that's great is that look
47:02oh no it's bad it's very bad for sound yeah that was that kind of disturbed me i don't know what i
47:09look like uh you look like a pink unicorn um quarterback okay are you are you kicking us off i guess i
47:16am um this feels like a weird thing i'm doing uh geno smith oh 221.5 passing yards facing the new england patriots
47:23yeah i'm taking the love yeah yeah yeah okay blame you there uh my uh my green goblin is uh at quarterback
47:30it's josh allen more flexing on more than 14 and i'm sorry more than 13 and a half uh rushing yards so
47:37that could be a play it should we didn't have 120 last last week oh the the unicorn is destroying the microphone
47:44sir uh sir we don't gobble mics we don't gobble mics just uh just to make you a little afraid two weeks
47:51ago josh allen did not hit more on that jay what about the week before that yeah yeah what about the week
47:58before that yeah i need oxygen i'm just saying there's one i'm not saying it's always possible but it seems like an
48:05easy uh we got to get him back in we got it we got to support the shuck daddies tyler's shock 232
48:12and a half passing yards okay we're going more baby all right i like i like the support yes tap on the
48:19butt hey look it's not a giant it's the giants what are you doing unicorn i don't know i even lost wait
48:26here they are he has to look through his mouth hole here's the one that i thought was hilarious okay it's my
48:33green goblin it's omarion hampton oh okay it is 11.5 rushing yards i'm taking the more let's go baby oh man oh
48:40hampton oh no hampton that i love you love to hear it oh i can't wait to see that one love to
48:47hear it i am going at running back with bay shell tootin uh more looked at his yeah i'm going with his
48:54receiving yard oh oh uh it's just more than eight and a half smells more more than eight and a half receiving
49:02yards he has been involved in the receiving game oh eight and a half yeah i you know i'm gonna be honest
49:09my projection when i did last night was seven and a half but it's gonna well uh my green goblin is the
49:16running back position as well you may have heard of him his name is ken bone walker oh a green goblin on
49:23walker 59 and a half yeah we'll take we'll take the more i thought about his regular one but then it was
49:30cool oh yeah i wanted the green goblin baby uh what do you got marvin harrison jr oh here we did you're
49:37doing it huh i was gonna do 20.5 or see we all i'm taking the more i think almost all three of
49:44us did it i pivoted out i knew andy would be i knew he would do that i actually doubled my lineup
49:51with an additional marvin harrison 20 and a half because that's that's a great one in on that that's a great pick
49:58i want to root for it um and i'm i'm going at wide receiver cd lamb in that uh you know big
50:05high scoring game cd lamb more than six receptions okay so uh you know these stay strong quad yeah i mean obviously
50:12that that's the whole issue he's looking for a bailout no i'm not looking for a bailout get that price he's looking
50:19for anybody a little bit hurt yeah all right my my wide receiver jm joining you in the jacksonville parker washington 61
50:26and a half receiving yards we'll go more is it up to me yeah last one tyler higby 34.5 receiving yards i'm
50:33taking the more the cardinals all right all right i like it uh i'm gonna go with tyler warren gonna disinfect that
50:40mike tyler warren five receptions i'm going more okay he's been very involved double teams on josh downs so expect him to
50:47have more and i'm hoping to have some correlation here between the giants and the saints i'm going isaiah likely 52 and
50:54a half receiving yards makes sense we'll see if they just end up in a in a throw fest as we would
51:01hope because neither team can really run the ball i can't breathe don't worry about it uh that was fantasy face-off presented
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