0:00Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
0:05Welcome in! Okay, trying something new. Listen, welcome into the show of the Fantasy Footballers, we're back again.
0:11Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway. I don't know if the people know this, but we are two shows away from 2,000.
0:18So this is episode 1,998. We should also celebrate if we reach the amount of shows that it took me to hit a hole in one.
0:272,399 should be a good show. We'll dedicate that one to Andy's Hole.
0:31Thank you, thank you. Which is shorthand for my hole in one.
0:35Yeah. Just to be clear. You can't do hashtag Andy's Hole in One challenge.
0:40This is going to take way too long. No, it's going to take way too long.
0:45But I just noticed, once again, we are in matching tops.
0:48We have all got black on today. And these are things that nobody probably notices, but like...
0:54I'm sure people do. We've had a weird run.
0:57Like we don't. We don't check with or care what each other wears.
1:01But we've had some weird runs lately where it's like, I'm going to wear a purple shirt for the first time in like six months.
1:09And somebody else wears a purple shirt. And I show up looking like Grimace.
1:14I do have purple pants on. Oh, look at that.
1:17Wait, you see, you Grimace on the bottom? Yeah.
1:20Party on top? Or, I don't know how that works.
1:23We've got a great show today. News and Thursday night breakdown.
1:27Oh, and next Friday is the Halloween episode. Oh my gosh.
1:31We might need to get on that. Yeah, are we finalized then?
1:34I don't know. I think Mike is Grimace. I think it's what we learned.
1:39Oh yeah, I'll just wear these pants and the purple shirt.
1:43And the purple top. Yeah, that's it. But yeah, we've got episode 2000 on Friday.
1:47I do not know what is happening, but I'm supposed to have a phone call today about something to do with episode 2000.
1:55So I'm expecting, Al, there'll be some festivities. We're going to sprinkle in some fun things.
2:00Yeah. Oh, that's good. Well, then we've got the Halloween episode the following week.
2:05We had waivers just go through. We have the Megalobull happening right now, where Show Me Your Touchdowns is still in first place.
2:12Wow. And we're not doing good with the names here, so I'm not reading the rest of them.
2:18But somebody's winning and other people are in second, third, fourth, and fifth.
2:22Let me have a look at this. Ah, yes.
2:25Yeah. A reference to a dinosaur. Yeah. You're going to take that one on, Mike?
2:30I don't remember that dinosaur. I want my baby back.
2:34Gibbs is number five right now. Jason, even though you're 12-0, you are in 696th place.
2:39Yeah, top percentile. Do better. Yeah. Do better. The ultimate dashboard and all the premium tools available to the community at jointhefoot.com.
2:46The website's thefantasyfootballers.com, unless the internet broke today. Our quick question.
2:50Matt in Colorado, where do you rank Josh Jacobs?
2:53Oh, boy. Among running backs for the rest of the season?
2:56We do have our rest of season rankings as part of the Foot Clan.
3:01I'm curious where you guys currently have him. He's been moving around.
3:05I mean, the honest truth is this. We don't know what we don't know.
3:09If Josh Jacobs is back and playing, it is quite evident that the Packers currently have zero running backs that can produce for this team.
3:17So they can say what they want about easing him back in or he's keeping himself in shape, but he hasn't had practice.
3:25These are some of the comments that are coming out.
3:28We feel he's in a pretty good spot, said Matt LaFleur on Monday.
3:32He's been training. He's missed the exposure to football, blah, blah, blah, yada, yada.
3:37Look, if something doesn't happen with the NFL intervening, they still have a bad offensive line.
3:42Yep. He still, he has a season where he missed.
3:45If you remember this. He's almost 29 years old.
3:48He missed a lot of time going into one of the seasons with the Raiders.
3:53Oh, the fat Thor year. Fat Thor year. And that whole season was a lack of production.
3:59It's not like we haven't seen. It'd be one thing to be like Derrick Henry's Derrick Henry, and he always ends up Derrick Henry.
4:07Jacobs has had a complete down year before, and it was going into free agency where the Packers paid him a bunch of money.
4:15So I didn't think there's a range of outcomes is my point.
4:18I think he will get all the work for this team.
4:22Yeah. Unless there is going to be the overhanging possibility that the league intervenes at some point in time, extends these time
4:29serve suspension, decides they get a hold of the video.
4:32They decide they're going to make another determination. Something happens, blah, blah, blah.
4:37That risk factor is there. If I were to just take all that into account and I don't, I'll mess with my
4:44rest of season rankings, and I was just to pick a spot for him rest of season.
4:49There's a number that jumps out to me, and I'm curious where you guys have him.
4:55For me, I have him at like RB 16.
4:58Yeah, I think that's the right spot. I think right around running back 15.
5:02I think that that is, running back 15 is about what his floor should be, not necessarily this week.
5:08Oh, my rest of season I'm at 17 right now.
5:12Coming in, but I do think on a week-to-week basis, he should be at least about running back 15 the rest of the way and carries that risk.
5:21Now, that's not his upside case. That is, I think, the case of like this offensive line is not good.
5:27He's been out of football, and he's a little older, and so you don't see the best of him, therefore, about running back 15.
5:35The upside case, you know, he played last year.
5:38Seven, eight. He was the running back like five until he got injured.
5:42He was dominating, and it really comes down to for him, he is a touchdown machine.
5:48Yeah. He is still on a great offense. The Packers are scoring, say what you want about the offensive line being bad.
5:55They're going to have plenty of goal line opportunities with this offense, especially with Jacobs added in, and he will be the guy.
6:02All the opportunity in the world was given to Marshawn Lynch and company.
6:07If Marshawn Lynch... Marshawn Lynch today would have done better than Marshawn Lloyd.
6:11I think you are correct. And what they showed is they need to be off the field.
6:16So, you know, I don't know if this week Jacobs gets all the work.
6:21I think next week he will. There's a couple names ahead of him in the rest of the season rankings that make me go, hmm.
6:29If I said Chase Brown or Josh Jacobs... Chase Brown.
6:32We're all doing Chase Brown, right? Yeah. If I said Jente or Josh Jacobs...
6:37Jente. Okay. Jalen Warren. That's the one name that I'm like, hmm.
6:41I would rather have Jacobs. The thing for Jacobs is...
6:44DeAndre Swift? Swift. Swift, easily. I mean, I don't think there's other names that you're going to debate.
6:50Kyron Williams you're not going to debate. Last year...
6:53It's difficult to me for Jacobs of production-wise, because last year was...
6:57It was volume and touchdowns. He was... Overall, he was not efficient.
7:01Like, many, many games under four yards a carry.
7:04Like, this is... And I know he's getting goal-lined, so it's like, we'll bring it down.
7:09But he, to me, wasn't the same player, but he was scoring in an outrageous clip.
7:14You know, the what? For like three years in a row.
7:18Sure. But he is... We're now a player who hasn't taken a snap yet.
7:22They are the 31st ranked... We're going into week seven.
7:26They're the 31st ranked offensive line as of seven hours ago on PFF.
7:30So that is... What were they two years ago?
7:33There's only one worse, Jason. It's the Chargers. Oh, man.
7:36My question, for two years ago, what was their offensive line?
7:40I don't know if we have access to that data.
7:43It can't be as bad as it is this year.
7:46Are you looking into that, Jay? No. Okay. I mean, I did not volunteer.
7:51They were sixth. They were sixth overall in 2024.
7:54Okay. I am not nearly as optimistic on Jacob's outlook as you guys.
7:58I mean, do you think 16 is the right place?
8:01I think that's a bit too high. I would have him around in the 20s.
8:06Let me give you names behind him. I'm running back two.
8:10Saquon. The Injury... Yeah. That one's tough. That one is actually tough.
8:14That one's an easy thing for Barkley. Because I don't really like...
8:18That seems Jacobs to me. But I have other names.
8:21Brace Hall. Brace Hall is his own conversation because...
8:24Nope. Part of this one. What I'm saying... No, I know.
8:27I say the conversation, you have to steer it over because Braylon Allen has not just been the guy for the Jets.
8:35Braylon Allen's been good. And like... So what is your answer if you had to choose?
8:40Between Brace Hall and Jacobs? Jason. Probably Brace. Cam Scadaboo?
8:43Jacobs. And one more tough one. Real tough. Jeremiah Love.
8:46If you had Jeremiah Love or Josh Jacobs? I would go Jeremiah Love.
8:51Yeah. I still think that the end of season when he gets over the ankle injury, he is a truly elite special talent.
8:58And they will use him at the end of the year.
9:02It's going to be a slog to get there, but it'll be worth it.
9:06All right. I mean, there are... A lot of Jacobs questions coming in.
9:11Like, would you trade Chris Olave for Josh Jacobs?
9:13No. I mean, I would not... No. If you had an abundance of wide receivers, that still seems like too much.
9:20You can get a better running back for Chris Olave.
9:24I would think. Yeah, let's jump into some of the news.
9:27News and notes from around the league. All right.
9:30The commanders announced, and it is bad, Dan Quinn confirmed Terry McLaurin tore his patellar tendon.
9:35This one is... Which is a massive injury. This one is probably worse than tearing your Achilles.
9:41He is 31 right now. He will be well into 32 by the time this is potentially, you know, healed.
9:47I mean, I can remember one dude coming back from this injury and seemingly being fine.
9:53And it took him like two years. And it was Will Disley.
9:57Yeah. But this is a... Just so those people know, this is a brutal injury.
10:01This is a lot worse than just tearing an ACL.
10:05Yes. Yeah. This feels to me like a career-ending injury.
10:08Not that McLaurin won't necessarily play another snap of football, but for fantasy football purposes, I don't think he will be a guy that we ever start again.
10:17Yeah. We talked about him a good bit on today's Dynasty podcast because we were doing a redraft of the first two
10:24rounds of rookie drafts, which this year is fascinating of the shakeup that really has...
10:29Where did Denzel Boston go? Earlier than he did...
10:32Certainly. In the... 106. No, that was a huge debate though.
10:36Oh, okay. Yeah. It was a very strong debate.
10:39Look, I didn't... I don't subscribe. And I was just curious what happened.
10:43So yeah, he went 106, but then the conversation for...
10:46It's Antonio Williams of... Was a fun prospect. Third round.
10:50Day two pick. Thank you. Like, the draft capital is there.
10:53We've seen some flashes. Did he go ahead of Jacoby Lane or behind him?
10:58Uh, I think he went behind him, but only because of Kyle.
11:02Uh, but that was... The conversation was like... Should I stop spoiling?
11:06Antonio Williams. These are fascinating. I'm so curious. Where'd Jeremy go?
11:09Oh, he went really high. Yeah. Because I am...
11:12I... Which I admitted on the show. Listen, folks.
11:15I said my emotional attachment already to Jeremy Bernard is...
11:18You know Mike's emotional attachment when you ask him how many PSA graded cards of a player he owns.
11:24Well, I don't have any graded of him yet.
11:27But you just bought two... They're raw. Didn't you buy two...
11:31You just bought two Jeremy cards. Yes, they will be graded in 12 months.
11:36But it's like Antonio Williams. My new Dino... Wait, is he on your Dino team?
11:40Yes. Oh, there it is. Oh. And I said it.
11:44And the truth. Oh, I revealed the truth. I didn't hide anything.
11:48There are three pillars of Mike's undying loyalty and we've got them all here.
11:52Yeah. I did not hide any of that. Also...
11:55That sucks. That sucks that you have him. That sucks for you guys.
11:59Antonio Williams. I'll change you Zachariah Branch for him.
12:02No. Oh, darn. Antonio Williams, the path for him to make an attempt to be Washington's number one wide receiver...
12:09Clear. It's right in front of him. Yeah. Stefan Diggs will have his role.
12:13His floor is safe. We talked about that. But long term, Antonio Williams, this is his audition.
12:19Like, he's gonna show Washington, do you need to invest more capital in the wide receiver position or is it in time for Antonio Williams?
12:27It's a... It's gonna be fascinating to watch. The kid has skills.
12:31I don't know if he can make that jump, but it's right there.
12:35It's pretty exciting for him. Yeah. J.J. McCarthy has been announced as the starting quarterback for the New York football giants in the game against the Texans.
12:44That will be tough. Good. That will be tough.
12:47But he looked good in the fourth quarter and bad at the same time.
12:52He did the Winston. He basically looked like Jameis Winston.
12:55He threw picks and looked bad and then also threw for 243 yards and scored 23 fantasy points.
13:01Yeah, he's not gonna look great against the Texans, but you pretty much have to make this transition.
13:07Winston didn't seem like he was getting it done.
13:10You trade for J.J. McCarthy. The real question is if, for some reason, rest of season, J.J.
13:15McCarthy does take that step forward, does lead this team to the playoffs, which is totally a legitimate possibility with this division now.
13:23This is why I thought the trade was so weird.
13:26And then you get the Jackson Dart-McCarthy conundrum. You had to get a quarterback, but the thing...
13:32If you get J.J. McCarthy a development project... Versus like a flack up.
13:36And he develops... You're like, well, it's a good problem to have.
13:40No, it's not. Ask Minnesota. Well... It is a good problem.
13:43I don't think it's a good problem. The way I see it is that you have to...
13:49If you wanna... It's a winnable division, right? It's a good problem that you will have, no matter what you do, you're gonna get it wrong.
13:57But it's like the 49ers developed Brock Purdy. And he looked good.
14:01And it's like, well, they had Trey Lance. They just went, we're gonna go...
14:06I know he's not the guy that we were supposed to have.
14:10But it worked out okay for them to have that problem.
14:13I mean, you're talking in if this, then that scenarios that are low probability.
14:18Agreed. And you had to just get the best available trade candidate quarterback that could lead you to maybe making the playoffs
14:25at 7 and 10 because this division sucks. Right.
14:28I mean, I don't think there's gonna be a lot of debate, but maybe if he goes on a run there would be.
14:36I agree with that. Jordan Tyson will not practice this week.
14:39But... Getting closer to practicing. That's right. Which does seem like his state for the last six weeks.
14:45Each week. That's better than not. Yeah, they have the bye week in week eight.
14:50So my assumption has been that they have had that as the target the whole time.
14:55And they said in that interview, they said that this...
14:58They're taking it slower than usual on purpose because they think he's a special talent.
15:03They loved what they saw in training camp and they had a target.
15:08We don't know what that is. They're waiting for their target.
15:11I think it's the bye week. It was not the same injury.
15:15They came out and mentioned that. Right. Terrence Ferguson is not going to be coming off of an injured reserve.
15:22Are you saying that Sean McVay lied about an injury again?
15:25Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Yes, I did.
15:29Yep, I lied. Well, I never. Terrence Ferguson isn't expected to be ready even though he said he would be ready.
15:35That moves... We talked about them in the waiver wire of the Rams have to do something.
15:41And we thought Terrence Ferguson, if he's going to be back, that's a very interesting pickup that you just have to wait a couple weeks.
15:49But Tyler Higbee should remain relevant. Baker Mayfield seen participating on Wednesday.
15:53Throwing. So, I think he's going to fight to play.
15:56Baker probably will. Yeah, he usually does. He plays through injury poorly.
16:00Kyle Shanahan said Christian Kirk is a possibility to play for the 49ers in week seven.
16:05It hurts his team, but tough. Okay. Christian Kirk, we'll see.
16:09Dan Graziano reports, it wouldn't be shocking to see the Giants add someone from the outside or give Tracy a bigger chance.
16:16Tyrone Tracy was one of the names we mentioned.
16:19What a mess. He went for $1. $1 to Jason today in the waiver wire.
16:24Ka-ching! Lucky guy. We'll take a break. We'll get into the Thursday night preview.
16:29Thursday night breakdown. Well, I am so excited for this one.
16:32It should be fun. New England's 4-2 and they traveled to Chicago to take on the Bears who are 4-2.
16:39Chicago three-point home favorites. Look at that respect. Over-under is 50 and a half.
16:43And I've got a buddy going to this game.
16:46I think it's going to be super exciting. The weather seems good.
16:50Two 4-2 teams. Over-under is 50 and a half.
16:53Division winners. I mean, here we go. Drake May in the last three weeks, 3-0, 10 touchdowns, one pick.
16:59Fantasy points per game, he pretty much quadrupled what he had been averaging.
17:04Yeah, I mean, the last three weeks he's lapping second place.
17:07He would be on pace for 5,000 passing yards, 56 touchdowns, and adding 580 rushing yards on the ground.
17:13I mean, he has been a machine. This matchup is one where I think the Bears' defense can be good sometimes, but
17:21you expect the two quarterbacks in the two offenses.
17:24Not if he says check this out. Yeah, you know, this is a fun game.
17:28I hope that this hits the over. I think it could.
17:32Yeah, the Bears and Patriots' defense is schedule-adjusted. They're pretty good.
17:36Quarterback is the one position the Bears give up fantasy points to.
17:40But running back and tight end, they don't give up.
17:43They're top ten against those. Patriots, they're a great defense.
17:46Number three against quarterbacks, two against tight ends. So Colston, Loveland, and company.
17:50You know, how much buy-in do we have on the one-week resurgence of Loveland?
17:55We knew we'd be in this boat at some point.
17:58We talked about the fact that we just didn't get to see a lot of Caleb and Colston, and you know, Luther
18:05Burden led the team in, even though the snaps are so low.
18:09He led the team in catches with eight. He dominates the per-route stuff.
18:1439% of snaps. His utilization is so insane. And Rome, just right now, Rome feels a lot like Marv.
18:20Do you know whose numbers are almost identical? Marv and Rome.
18:23They're crazy. Well, it feels the same. It feels like Rome.
18:27Yeah. Like, it's not like Marv doesn't make a play.
18:30He does. He makes plays. And Rome makes plays.
18:33But from a fantasy, you know, consistency standpoint, it seems- He just doesn't demand targets.
18:38Like, let me ask the question. Because A.J. Brown looked terrible last week.
18:42He's going to be one week healthier. You lose Romeo Dobbs.
18:46He's on IR. You don't have Matt Collins. In this exact game, and you got to start to Mario Douglas, who's been
18:53the wide receiver 9 and 10 in the last two weeks for the Patriots, for a quarterback that's been the best.
19:00Or you start Roma Dunsay? Hmm. Like, if I had those two guys, there's just- I don't think there's any way I'd
19:07put Rome into that lineup over DeMario Douglas. Yes.
19:10That is brutal. I mean, Rome has one game this year in the top 24, and it was 22 overall.
19:17He has scored how many touchdowns, Jason? I mean, six weeks.
19:20One? Zero. I'm not a Rome guy, but I give everyone the same pass.
19:25Like, I won't just say, well, I'm only going to give a pass to Burnett Loveland.
19:30I don't give a pass to those guys, though.
19:33Not a full pass. I mean, I think there's the hopeful upside.
19:37But six weeks into the season, you haven't seen spectacular from any of these guys.
19:42Well, but I think the pass is that the six weeks has been four of the six weeks hasn't been this offense
19:49with- Devontae Smith in one week with Tanner McKee, goes out there, target hog.
19:53Ben Johnson is not an idiot. They've won games without him.
19:57Yeah, they were winning. And they're still part of a mosaic of options in Chicago that at any moment, Kalief Raymond or
20:04Colt Komet or Swift- Roshan last week had a better game than Rome by 3X.
20:09That's my point. Like, at the end, though- And with Caleb.
20:13If I remember right, most of Roshan's production was like the fourth quarter when the game was already done.
20:19Okay. Yeah, I mean, the game wasn't that done.
20:22I mean, they had to get a first down for the Falcons not to be able to tie the game.
20:28Yes. Look, my point is that this is a situation that we talked about the other week.
20:34You're going to be able to say whatever you want about these guys.
20:38Correct. If you want to say that that's the first of a bunch of great games in a row, say it.
20:45Believe it. Start them. I would start Demario Douglas over Roma Duns in this game.
20:50What about Burden? I would play Burden. Okay. Because the target volume is massive.
20:55I mean, you know, Demario Douglas two weeks ago was two touchdowns on five targets.
20:59Last week he got eight targets. And with Dobbs going down, the snaps are going up.
21:05So to me, he's a great one-week start. I don't know if you guys disagree.
21:10I don't want to be biased. I don't disagree with that.
21:13I think he's been good. I don't disagree with that.
21:16Targeting the slot against Chicago is good. The slot role has, you know, historically for this Patriots offense been a valuable role.
21:24And in a game with a 50 and a half point over under, I think Demario Douglas was one of the most
21:31popular pickup to play guys this week. So, you know, he's a flex option.
21:35I would still go Rome over him, but he's in that tier where like Rome is a flex at best.
21:42Uh, Loveland was five for 60 and one last week.
21:45Will you play pits this week? Oh man. Or Colson Loveland.
21:49See, this is another situation where I genuinely think Hunter Henry on the other side might be better than Colson Loveland.
21:56The fancy points given up by the Patriots, regardless of Caleb starting 5.6 a game.
22:01You got two of them in Chicago. Hunter Henry, huge beneficiary of Dobbs in Matt Collins going down.
22:06Agreed. His last two weeks are, I mean, I think what's coming through is I think the Patriots are going to win the game.
22:14Okay. It seems that way from, uh, from what you're saying.
22:18I, I'm still on the Loveland, uh, side. I would start Loveland over Henry.
22:22Chicago's favorite. Chicago's favorite. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, I would also start Loveland over, over pits.
22:28Okay. Uh, this isn't a great matchup, but pits is even, even worse against San Francisco.
22:33Is it? Yeah. Worse than what is San Francisco number one against that end?
22:38Okay. So those are the top two. I was like, how is it, how is it worse?
22:43But there's only one. It can be one worse.
22:46Ramondre. Travo. Oh, uh, what? So, uh, next gen stat on Travo 16 zone runs this year.
22:52He's gained 24 yards on them. Contacted at the line of scrimmage.
22:5581% of the time. Um, he was 5.5 a carry last year on those attempts.
23:00He's, they say he's healthy. Ramondre has been the RB 13, 10 and 44 the last three weeks.
23:06I mean, I play Ramondre over Travo, but where does Ramondre end up in your weekly ranks?
23:12I like it, it should be in Pierce or Ramondre.
23:15Well, we need, we need the Saquon news, but matchup wise, Damien Pierce getting Dallas's would be more like it's a much better situation.
23:23I'm freaked out by the Patriots running backs right now because of the Kiner stuff.
23:28Yeah. And the comments that were made after the game, uh, Vrabel was asked you because if you're unaware, Corey Kiner, a
23:35running back, you've never heard of, right? Started finer though.
23:38Oh, very nice. Um, started getting, uh, a lot of work at the end of the game in the fourth quarter.
23:45And, and even over Ramondre, this wasn't just a Travion Henderson's dealing with his ankle injury.
23:50This was real Andre's there and they're giving the ball to Corey Kiner.
23:55And the comments afterwards were just, he's been running hard.
23:58He's been running great. And we've got three great backs and you just hate to hear that.
24:03You do hate to hear that. Yeah. Especially if you are holding on to Travo having any relevance rest of the season.
24:11Cause I don't think Ramondre's role is going to diminish that much, but I think Travo's, if he's not efficient on his
24:18touches and Kiner comes in, that sucks. Uh, on the other side, Swift is an easy play.
24:23If Mononga guy, I mean, he's not practicing, so I can't imagine my guys back in there.
24:29Not, not at all. Not on the short week.
24:32And Roshan seems terrifying against new England. Yeah. Roshan, you're hoping you get a touchdown.
24:37You're hoping you get a, well, yeah, a touchdown, but it's like four catches that that's where it will.
24:43You have to sneak, you have to PPR scam your way or you're hope you're hoping for a blowout.
24:49You're hoping that the Patriots of the first two weeks shows up again.
24:53Um, and, and you get Roshan in cause you were right.
24:57It was eight carries to two carries Roshan to Deandre Swift in the fourth quarter.
25:02And while it ended up as a close game, they were blowing the tarnations out of them at that, at that point.
25:09They didn't think it would be a close game at the end.
25:13So, um, they had zero tarnations left. Yeah. Uh, they were all blown out of it.
25:18But Swift, I think is just a fantastic play each and every week.
25:22It doesn't matter the matchup, good matchup, bad matchup.
25:25Swift is, he's the clear lead back on a great offense.
25:29I mean, there's only been one week this season.
25:32He wasn't a top 24 back. Uh, AJ Brown, Demario Douglas, Hunter Henry, primary pass catchers in a game where they have an implied point total of 24.
25:41So, I mean, who else is he throwing the ball to?
25:45Maybe he's been the number one quarterback. I don't know.
25:48Kyle Williams, I mean, could have a play, but it feels like those are the three guys that are catching the ball.
25:55Yeah. I think AJ Brown will have a nice bounce back game.
25:59He, he got 10 targets last week. We talked about if he catches them.
26:04Yeah. If he, if he caught him last week, he would have been like, you know, seven for 80 and a touchdown.
26:11Um, and we'd be talking about, Oh, how awesome.
26:14Um, AJ Brown is a, is a primetime guy.
26:17I think at Thursday night football, he's going to, he's going to show out.
26:21I think that one's going to be fun to watch.
26:25Yeah. It'll be a fun game. All right. Uh, don't drop your first pass.
26:29Just don't do it. It was so much more than the drops to me.
26:34He just looked rickety. I mean, he's coming back off of an ankle injury that he has.
26:39You should have waited if that's the case. Maybe.
26:42It's hard. It's hard to pass on the game.
26:45Any other thoughts on this one you want to call out?
26:49To cover anything on Caleb? I'm really excited. I think both quarterbacks just have to be started.
26:54Caleb and Drake may, it's a tough matchup, but, um, these guys are too good for fantasy.
27:00They run the ball and they can each throw three touchdowns.
27:03All right. We have a ton of questions, a lot of stuff going on in fantasy.
27:09We want to help out the foot clan. Let's do it right now.
27:13Mailbag. I didn't think you were going to flourish.
27:16I did. I was trying to jump in and help.
27:19You kind of sound like a cat. We got voicemail questions.
27:23We got your questions that you sent in from the website, the fantasy footballers.com.
27:27Click that submit a question button, the voicemail hotline 302-464-TFFB.
27:31To the guy that called in and messed up his question this week.
27:35We heard you. It was awesome. Thank you. First question here is a voicemail.
27:39Hey, footballers. This is Andrew from Baltimore. Just wondering, do I stay in the fire fire with, uh, Stroud or do I go with Joe Burrow against Baltimore?
27:49Thanks. Ooh. Ooh. So Joey Burrow plays the Baltimore Ravens.
27:52CJ Stroud gets the Giants. The Giants is the much better matchup and Stroud has absolutely been cooking.
27:58I have, they're, they're of course back to back in my ring cause I've Stroud one spot higher.
28:04I mean, this is the ultimate play the stud versus stay in the flame situation.
28:08I, you know, what do you expect McCarthy to be able to do against Houston?
28:13Because a lot of these games this year, we've been surprised at how many points Houston's given up.
28:19One of the things that I like about CJ Stroud right now, because when I look at this game against the Giants,
28:26my biggest worry is they're not going to need to throw the ball, right?
28:31You, you, you get up, you, you can, you can handle JJ McCarthy.
28:35You can pick him off, do a pick six, pick six, pick six is the biggest threat.
28:41And now you're like, well, game's over. They they're just going to run the ball.
28:46I don't know that they can get with who I don't know that they can run the ball.
28:52So they will have to there. If they score 21 points is because CJ Stroud has three passing touchdowns or they have a pick six.
29:00Yeah, exactly. So this is where the, the lack of a running game right now for Houston.
29:05I'm going to stay in the flames. I think I'm sticking with Stroud was Stroud.
29:10I'll play Burrow. All right. I'd have a hard time sitting them down.
29:14I like Stroud this week a lot, but I, I don't think Burrow is, I mean, Lamar should be back or could be back.
29:22Could be. Um, that's the way I'd go. Question here.
29:26A lot of questions about him. Uh, we talked about him earlier to Jimmy writing in is Brees Hall and automatic start.
29:33If he comes back this week or are you waiting a week?
29:37It is the Miami matchup. Yeah, I would throw him right back.
29:41I agree. Uh, you, you might, you might be disappointed.
29:44You might learn that he's in more of a timeshare than, than before, especially in the first week back.
29:50But in a matchup against Miami, a guy who was, you know, a top 15 back first two weeks before he got injured looked great.
29:58I would throw him right in my lineup. We're talking about such awful running backs to start.
30:04I'd be happy to have Brees in my lineup.
30:07Uh, Oli Gordon's been awesome. When you play Oli Gordon or Brees Hall back in your lineup, because Gordon's, Gordon's numbers are great.
30:14Uh, no, I, I think that that is a worthy pivot.
30:18I mean, if you had, if your last spot was between Brees Hall and Oli Gordon, I think I would go Oli Gordon.
30:25Um, he has looked fantastic. He got, uh, all the work over Jalen Wright.
30:30The matchup is fine. Coming off a bye. Uh, yeah.
30:33I mean, Oli Gordon is in, in and of himself.
30:36I think a good play. Okay. Another voicemail question.
30:39Hey, footballers. Love listening to the show. I'm needing to upgrade my receiver position and I'm wanting to trade Garrett Wilson and
30:47Omarion Hampton for possibly a J Brown. Let me know what your thoughts are.
30:51I just need a more consistent player, uh, at receiver.
30:54Thank you. Bye. More consistent than Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson and Omarion Hampton being traded for a J Brown.
31:01Um, no, I don't, I don't think I would do that.
31:04Uh, I mean the Garrett Wilson is, has been, uh, pretty darn good this year.
31:09He's had four, four good games to stinkers. Yeah.
31:12And one of the stinkers was this last week against Christian Gonzalez where he, he, he came out and said there is no rivalry.
31:20Like he's Christian Gonzalez has won every matchup he's ever had against Garrett Wilson.
31:24He's just, he's got Garrett Wilson's number. Um, you know, obviously they will play new England again and that will be in
31:32the, in the playoffs fantasy play in week 16.
31:35That is a shame, but Garrett Wilson has been very, very good.
31:39We don't know what AJ Brown's going to be.
31:41Um, yeah, that's the, that's the part about AJ Brown that I think is standing out to me is, you know, he's
31:49a, he's a complicated player to evaluate. Is the rapport going to be there with Drake may?
31:54I mean, some of the drops, some of the report needs to develop over time.
31:59Um, we haven't seen it yet in new England.
32:02He's had his on and off days with Jalen hurts in Philadelphia.
32:06It's coming off a high ankle sprain. Evaluating AJ Brown rest of season.
32:10Like there's tremendous upside. There's, there's some questions in my head though.
32:14Now have you factored in, you do get to remove Hampton from your team?
32:19If you did this trade, well, they, they, I think you might get this trade to go through.
32:25If you offer Garrett Wilson for AJ Brown straight up.
32:28I don't know if you can get it to go through.
32:31If you add Hampton in there. So funny. And by the way, Mike McDaniel is still the offensive coordinator and there's been
32:39talk of them simplifying play calling to make it please do less confusing.
32:43Well, you can't have, I will say this. You cannot have a complicated scheme with four rookies on your offensive line.
32:50Like, you know what I mean? Like it's so complicated.
32:53It's a pattern that they've lost all their offensive linemen.
32:56They've got a slew of rookies having to be forced into starting.
33:00You have to have, you have to have a simple blocking scheme.
33:04Rest of the season. Would you rather have AJ Brown or Carnell Tate?
33:08Donnie wants to know. Ooh, that's interesting. Um, I'm, I'm on the AJ Brown side there.
33:14I still believe here's my belief for AJ Brown.
33:17I think the next two or three weeks he'll, he'll look like himself.
33:21Sometimes it'll be a, a slow, you know, getting back from this ankle injury.
33:25Um, he might not be at a hundred percent.
33:28I genuinely believe AJ Brown will be at the end of the season, a, a, a difference making, you know, top 10 wide receiver in the fantasy playoffs.
33:37Okay. Uh, next question from Chris in Southern California.
33:40Should I start Tony Pollard this week against the Cleveland defense or Jalen Waddle against Arizona in his flex?
33:47Oh man. Wait, say that again. It's Tony Pollard or Jalen Waddle this week.
33:51I would go, I would go Jalen Waddle. Um, I think this is a, a bounce back game for Waddle against Arizona.
33:58Arizona looked great against the Rams this last week.
34:01You can be like, Oh, they, they shut down their wide receivers.
34:05There's, there's questions there on how much of this was that this horrifically bad defense, it's giving up 30 points every single week to everyone.
34:13Just all of a sudden they got good or they got to play, you know, the floor just came from the Rams knows their system knows their scheme.
34:23Um, I watched a video talking about how just perfectly scheme wise, every, every defensive play was like, we knew what was, what the call was.
34:31Um, I don't think the Cardinals defense is good.
34:34And I think Waddle has a bounce back. Um, Mason wants to know what an appropriate haul is for Jamar Chase that he needs depth on his team.
34:43Kyle said he traded Chase away in a home league this past week when he was on by for depth.
34:50Kyle, our Kyle, our Kyle. He traded it. What was your hall?
34:54It was Nico Collins. Okay. Jalen Warren and Dak, but he gave up chase and shuck.
34:59Oh, I don't think I would've died. I don't think I would've done it.
35:03Kyle is here, right? Yeah, I think so. Bad work, Kyle.
35:07I won. So I'm great. Oh yeah. Okay. Just one week.
35:11The problem with Jamar Chase and players like that is like, there's really not an appropriate haul.
35:16Did you need to survive? What's your record? I'm four and two now.
35:20Okay. He's just, he's, he's, he's, that's a tough one.
35:24Was it at least tough? I needed running back depth as well.
35:28Like it was easy. That sounds like it was easy.
35:31Yeah. No, getting Nico is a, is a good start.
35:34You have to get an absolute known stud is the problem when you're trading away Jamar Chase and then, and then a true depth piece.
35:42Yeah. The Warren part is tough. Cause it's like, if you had set a different name in there, uh, if it was Jacobs, would you have felt different?
35:51I would have felt better with Jacobs simply because the Warren Rico split, like Warren was unbelievable in the games that Rico was gone.
35:59They said, well, we're still going to work in Rico when he gets back, he got back and they, they did.
36:06And Jalen Warren, you know, didn't have a very good game.
36:10So, um, I worry that the upside that we see what Warren can do, he won't be allowed to do.
36:16I agree. But Warren still was the primary guy over Rico.
36:20So yeah, would you rather have Jalen Warren or Chuba Hubbard?
36:23Chuba. Yeah. Leaps and bounds. I agree. Unfortunately. What a world.
36:27Yeah. Here we are. Jamison Williams or George Pickens.
36:30Uh, is that for this week? Is that for life?
36:33I fit dad life. 89 wants to know. Well, it's his life is in the name.
36:38So Jamo's had a couple of good weeks. George Pickens has a more defined.
36:43I think. Yeah. I think he does a target share on the team.
36:47He definitely does. Should. That's who I would take.
36:50I'm going Pickens. Yeah. I would take Pickens. It wasn't.
36:54Cause so Pickens was 11 targets. So 13. And that was the game that CD got knocked out of, but 11 targets
37:01before that, or after that week three, he had 11 targets.
37:04Jamison Williams is just, it was like two. He caught two touchdowns this last week.
37:09He caught two. He had two receptions for two touchdowns.
37:12Like Jamison Williams can go off every week, but you need to get to have probably start cooking more often than not.
37:20Like Jamison. Yeah, he probably will. But again, I still take Pickens.
37:24Yeah. I lean. That Detroit offense is really humming.
37:26And you always get, it's nice. Cause you get the deep shots.
37:30No matter what you get it with both of them.
37:34They're very similar. Uh, but I, like I said, the target share is probably a little bit more guaranteed for Pickens.
37:41Although it's been weird. All right. We'll take a break.
37:44We'll jump into some more questions. This question comes in from YouTube at danger, doom 23.
37:49If there's not a rule in place to set a full lineup every week, is it wrong to remove a player that
37:56hasn't played if your week is already won by a couple of points?
38:00So we see this most often when people are like, I'm up by a couple points.
38:06Should I just bench my defense, which I don't ever have a problem with.
38:10I think that's good strategy. Uh, if you don't have a rule against it, there's a very different thing between not fielding
38:17a lineup to try to lose or not fielding a lineup to ensure a victory.
38:22Like the goal here, everybody, every team needs to be trying to win.
38:27Um, if you're like, Oh, I, I'm going to win.
38:30If I play my quarterback, take my quarterback out.
38:33That's, that's nonsense. That's, that's not in the spirit of the game.
38:37That's, uh, without a rule. I don't think you should be able to do that.
38:42Um, to, to say I'm up and I want to ensure that I'm up.
38:46Sure. I win. And I, what if I, my defense goes out and scores negative four.
38:51Yeah. Pull that guy. That's just good strategy playing to win.
38:55Um, and if you don't have a rule against it, I, you know, definitely in my opinion, you're playing fantasy football, you're
39:02playing within the confines of your rules. You just, you have to know how it works.
39:07Like there are, you, uh, a, there's, there's features on platforms like sleeper where you can, it can be toggled on and off.
39:15You can drop a player after they have played.
39:18If you, if it allows it, like other people might get upset about it, but if this is in the rules of
39:25the game that you are playing, then go ahead and do it.
39:29You have to like, that's the, that's where you're operating.
39:32That's your playground. Yeah. I would definitely do it.
39:35I mean, there's no world where I wouldn't unless, um, no, no, the rules of your league.
39:41Like if I am on the playoff bubble and your tiebreaker is points scored.
39:45Right. And, um, and I look like, Hey, it's probably going to be me and two other teams tied for that last spot.
39:53Well, then you need more points for the, for the season long.
39:57Don't, don't hurt yourself in the total points you could score.
40:00But outside of that. Yeah. Just ensure you win.
40:03Rest of season question on YouTube from Ely Denzel Boston or Jordan Tyson.
40:08Who would you rather have on your roster rest of season?
40:11Boston. I think it has to be Boston. I feel pretty confident.
40:15Yeah. I think I'm as bullish as anyone on Jordan Tyson.
40:19I just traded for Jordan Tyson. I don't know.
40:22It's a win. It's a win question. Yeah. I don't know when he comes back and then, you know, how slow it
40:29didn't tell Boston has been good now is on the field.
40:32So yeah, I would, I would go Boston. Um, okay.
40:36I did like in, in your, in your, um, your rookie draft redo on the dynasty show that Tyson stayed right there.
40:43Yeah. He was what the third pick behind Colonel Tate and Jeremiah love.
40:47That's absolutely where I still think he belongs, but in, in playing for this year, no, I would take Boston.
40:54All right. Um, another followup on the rest of season question.
40:57Colson Loveland, Dalton Kincaid rest of season. I think I'd feel better about Colston.
41:02Yeah, man. I, I, I, I lean Kincaid for upside.
41:05I don't know that Dalton Schultz, Dalton Schultz for Loveland is.
41:09Has has been displayed for a longer period of time.
41:12Yeah. But I, I guess for Dalton Schultz, the, the issue I have is.
41:17Why is Dalton Schultz involved in the equation? Wait, what was the question?
41:21I thought it was Schultz versus Kincaid. Well, I misheard.
41:24Colson Loveland or Kincaid. Oh, that's. But let me ask you this.
41:28If it was Schultz or Kincaid, who would you go with?
41:32I would go with Kincaid. Yeah. See? Yeah, but totally.
41:35Let me, let me just, I can't believe we were able to like discuss again here.
41:40Let me dig in here. I don't know if you thought it was Schultz.
41:45No, for sure. Cause if you thought it was Schultz, you wouldn't have had such a.
41:50That's what I'm saying. Analytical deep approach to it.
41:53It was like who in the world would consider Schultz in that situation?
41:57I, I, I was surprised. That's why I was pulling up.
42:01You were trying to give him credence? No, I was because Schultz had his big game, but when all the other wide
42:08receivers were out and Kincaid's been bad, but no Loveland versus Kincaid, I'd go Loveland.
42:13Good. We're with you. Next question. Will Jeremiah Love bounce back?
42:16This is easy. Don't answer without being prepared. All right.
42:20With Marv on the team now and tank being back, I'll go love.
42:24Dang. Yeah. But do you think that love will actually bounce back this year?
42:28I absolutely do. I believe that he is. Would you still try to acquire him?
42:33I would. It it's team dependent. You can't be a team that's sitting there two and four right now and go acquire love.
42:41But if you are playoff bound and a team that is the team that has Jeremiah Love, they probably have a bad record.
42:48Like, you know, I there's always those posts of players on the teams that are oh and six, the most commonly rostered players.
42:56Jordan Love is going to Jeremiah Love is going to be one of those players.
43:01Did you see the numbers, Jason? This is a you'll enjoy this this past week.
43:06So week six, it was the highest percentage of if you had this player, you won.
43:11And there was Kenneth Walker. If you had it, he was you were like a 70 something percent win.
43:17Oh, that's cool. Christian McCaffrey in the 70s. Nice.
43:20I had both of those. Yeah. How'd you do against me?
43:24And I lost the rest of my team took such a steamer.
43:28There's also likely in pits, which. Yeah. I wonder what the odds were with likely or pits.
43:33Probably pretty high. Pretty high. So would you play Dak against Philly this week or Bo Nix against Arizona?
43:39Both games are on the road. Dak. So I.
43:42Bo Nix needs to rattle off about eight great games before I think about it.
43:47See that I made this decision out. I'll just be very transparent about it and doesn't feel good.
43:53And after I made it this morning, it still doesn't feel good.
43:57It feels bad because I. This is just the psychology of fantasy when a player has performed before they're on a good team.
44:04You just want to kind of project what they've done before.
44:08I dropped Bo Nix. I have a Josh Allen buy and Bo Nix was my pickup a couple weeks ago because that's like they play Arizona.
44:17That should be. And it's, you know, it's in Arizona.
44:20Should be. But who gives a crap? It should be a dominating performance.
44:24And then I went and like, you just look at Bo Nix this year.
44:29Like there's one game you're happy with. One. There's also a seven point game, a six point game, a ten point game.
44:36Oh my goodness. And I signed Gino freaking Smith.
44:39Yeah, I support this. To play over Bo Nix this week.
44:42I support it. And I'm looking at it and I'm like, man, Bo Nix would look cooler on my lineup, but I need to win.
44:51Get out of here, Bo Nix. Moving you down.
44:53Um, man. Instagram question from Keenan. Do you enjoy playing reader after dynasty more?
44:58Redraft more than dynasty. Keeper more than both. Keeper more than both.
45:02Keepers are league of record. What if you had my dynasty team?
45:06Oh, okay. That's would you a whole lot. All right.
45:09That's enough. We're done. We're done. You know, you can do it.
45:13You're next baby. Starts of the week tomorrow and matchups episode 2000 on Friday.
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