0:00Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
0:05Welcome in! Football time! Do something George! Here we get Dallas tonight.
0:09Please! Thursday, October 8th, 2026. George, I see the money slipping away.
0:13I see it falling through your hands, George. He's gonna be fine.
0:16I know, I know! He's always been inconsistent. Like, we had a fake consistent stretch last year where it was like, oh, he's the guy.
0:24It's just, this is who he is. Well, I mean, he was the guy when there was no CD.
0:30Right, that was the big stretch. He was good when CD was there as well.
0:35But not consistent. Right. Thus, those last two weeks where everyone was like, oh, George has quit on the team.
0:41I mean, I think it is unfortunately a fair conversation to have about like, he was always inconsistent with Pittsburgh.
0:47Then you're the dude for Dak, which is a big upgrade to anything you had in Pittsburgh.
0:53Perhaps. And then CD came back. I mean, calling someone inconsistent playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers when they have absolute hot doo-doo trash throwing you the ball.
1:01I'm not calling him anything. I'm just speaking. Jason is.
1:04I'm speaking statistically. Well, yeah. I mean, I'm saying he was inconsistent.
1:08Yes. I only said that because he was inconsistent.
1:11So, his reasons for being inconsistent, I don't know.
1:14But I also think it's not just the doo-doo trash garbage throwing him the ball, which was for sure doo-doo trash.
1:20Thank you. It was bad. But it's also his archetype.
1:24Like, the same reason that Jamison Williams is not going to, you know, he's not the every third down possession, you know, chain mover type guy.
1:32He's the run down the field, catch amazing, crazy cool, fantasy relevant bombs.
1:36Four of the last six games, he was wide receiver 30 or later last year.
1:41Which is crazy. Because he had a, he was the wide receiver five on the year.
1:46Yeah. But maybe we saw, I mean, you go back to about week seven.
1:50Which games were you saying? Well, just, just go from week seven.
1:54So week seven, you had one, two, three, four, five, six, six of eight at 27 or lower.
1:59So I think that is archetype. And then you had the super high volume in that five week stretch where that's 150 target pace.
2:07Also from week seven on all those bad games you talked about.
2:11Play George Pickens. Three times in the top five.
2:14Yeah. He's awesome. Not only play George Pickens, trade for George Pickens.
2:17Yeah. He's going to have bright, amazing days ahead.
2:20And right now I think some people are afraid that, especially after last week where CD got everything, where it's just like, oh, we were wrong.
2:28This is CD's team and George is not involved.
2:31That's not the truth either. Yeah. I mean, this is not JMO because JMO has more competition in a lot of regards
2:38in terms of Laporta, greater sign Ferguson, Gibbs, greater sign Javante in the receiving game.
2:43Like Pickens is the second fiddle. JMO can be the fifth fiddle.
2:47Yeah. If the game goes the wrong way. That's not beating the devil.
2:51No, no, it's not. We have so much to talk about today.
2:54NFL news to get into starts of the week, tons of matchups for week five.
2:59Lots going on. A lot of like injury situations that are just like murky and quiet right now.
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3:44Let's talk some news and notes from around the league.
3:47Yeah. Brooks does point out the fact that, you know, Pickens was drafted as the wide receiver 10 this year, whereas like
3:54J most drafted in the fifth round, third round, fifth round.
3:58Yeah, because I mean, that's that's right. For four weeks, you expected at least at least one bada boom from George.
4:04It could happen tonight. So it shall excited. We shall speak it into existence.
4:09There you go. The Panthers are hopeful Jalen Coker will be ready to return to action following the week five by.
4:15So they're on by this week. You don't get tat after his huge performance.
4:20No Darren Waller, no Chuba, no Coker, but they're hoping he's back.
4:23Which I mean, cool. It's good for Bryce Young.
4:26Good for the offense. Lamar Jackson did not practice on Wednesday.
4:30They're the Sunday night football game. Hopefully we have answers so that Mike doesn't have to panic attack.
4:35It was it was being reported that today is going to be like if he practices today, he's got a chance to play.
4:43If he doesn't practice today, he's not going to play.
4:46So I think we'll know well in advance. But the assumption is that it's an uphill battle for him to play because
4:53he has a mysterious type of ankle injury. It's unorthodox.
4:56It's not high. It's not low. It's just right.
4:59It's a Goldilocks ankle situation. Yeah. Matt LaFleur says Jeremiah loves ankle injury quote shouldn't impact him for week five against the Lions.
5:06So that that's helpful. That's helpful because Jeremiah love sure sounded like it was going to impact him.
5:11There's just some players like I have a league with Jeremiah love, right?
5:16I have to choose. Do I play Jacob Dobbins this week over love?
5:20Do I play Ollie Gordon this week over love?
5:22Like I think Jeremiah love is an actual like start set conundrum for this year because the matchup we love it.
5:29If LaFleur isn't a liar here that his ankle injury shouldn't impact him, then he should get a lot of work.
5:36Right. I watched those guys. I'd play love over both of those.
5:39I watched some practice videos. Which one in particular?
5:42Both. Certainly over J.K. Dobbins. Dobbins has been so bad.
5:45Put them in order is what I'm saying. Oh, of the three?
5:49Yeah. Would you play Ollie Gordon and love? I mean, I would definitely play Ollie Gordon ahead of J.K.
5:55Dobbins. Love. Even with the matchup. Would you play Jeremiah love or Aaron Jones asking for it?
6:00Aaron Jones. Oh, that one's wild. That one's an awesome play.
6:04Aaron Jones is a great. But you would play Jeremiah love over Ollie Gordon against Cincinnati?
6:09I personally would. All right. I'm going to make that change for my friend over here.
6:14I mean, it's all in your hands, Mike. Don't blame me.
6:17Justin Jefferson says he plans to play in week five against the Saints.
6:22Final decision has not been made, but he said he feels great.
6:25That's awesome. That's bad news for T.J. Hawkinson, who was the big one of the big waiver pickups this week.
6:32I think you can still start him. He is the matchup is OK and Kyler has obvious comfortability with him.
6:38That being said, don't expect if Jefferson is there for Hawkinson to go out there and get a dozen targets and 100 yards.
6:45That's that's just not in the cards. Yeah, those targets should go to.
6:49It rhymed. It did. They should go to Jefferson Steelers head coach Mike McCarthy said that the worst wide receiver of all time.
6:56According to Aaron Rodgers, Michael Pittman re injured his foot and is now expected to miss multiple weeks.
7:02Would you think that was like a misery Aaron Rodgers in the night?
7:06I think I think he yeah, he stepped on his foot.
7:10He's got plantar, man. He's been trying to get it out.
7:13It's just one of those like if you don't play your soft.
7:17If you go out there and you have a bum foot, you're like that guy bad.
7:22Yeah, no, I agree. It's an impossible situation for Pittman.
7:25But Roman Wilson, the Metcalf targets to continue. Roman.
7:28Roman Wilson is a fascinating stash. He's been playing very well.
7:31I know he's not getting like the peripherals aren't.
7:34It's like 30% snaps or something. Yeah, they aren't outrageously great.
7:38But maybe with if Pittman is for sure out of the way.
7:41Roman Jeremy Bernard. Yeah, the matchup for the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers this week is not just dominating Metcalf performances coming up.
7:48Just we all know. We all know what the target share will be dominance.
7:53He looks what about the catch? I tell you he looks too big for his pets.
7:58He really does. He looks like like if a kid tried to dress up as a football player because I mean, he's just gigantic.
8:05I always look at him. I'm like you. You are.
8:08He is a weird man in that side. He should dominate.
8:12He came back. He should dominate. He should. That is true.
8:15All right. We got starts. Starts of the week brought to you by Apple Card.
8:20All right. The starts of the week for week five starting at quarterback.
8:24Jason will let you lead the way. I'm going to stay in the flames.
8:28Jared Goff has been on fire. Oh, yeah. In Arizona.
8:32It's a massive over under through the first month of the season.
8:35Goff is second passing yards tied for second passing touchdowns third and completions.
8:39Arizona's defense doesn't exist. So, yeah. I mean, if you have been playing Jared Goff, congratulations.
8:45Continue to do so with confidence. Quarterback five on the year.
8:48Mike, who do you have at quarterback? It's my streamer from streamer to starter.
8:52Yes. And you picked him up everywhere and it pisses me off because I needed him in a couple places and you
8:59just you, Fookland, Mike believes in the start of the week.
9:03Yeah. You literally every single league we're in picked him up.
9:06Look, this is what I'm giving the advice. I am not just talking about it.
9:11I'm living it. So if this fails, Fookland, I fail with you.
9:15But it really should not. Although the entire process here, it's Jacoby Brissett in that game.
9:20Jay, you laid it all out and I did on the stream of the week as well.
9:25But the highlights Detroit allowing over 300 passing yards per game.
9:29The guys who put up top five finishes, Shuck Daddy, Josh Allen, Gino Smith, Bryce Young.
9:34I feel confident enough in Jacoby this week. I like both your starts more than mine.
9:39But if you got Mahomes, Bryce Young, somebody on by, you need a spot start.
9:43You don't like Herbert. This one's wild because yes, it should work.
9:47Bo Nix. Bo Nix against the Chargers. They're three and a half point road favorites.
9:52Chargers defense right now. What messes up Bo Nix the most?
9:55Pressure does. 24th in pressure rate. 24th in explosive pass rate allowed.
9:5925th in yards per attempt. Not a real running game to like, you know, we forget the 10 targets to the running
10:06through the air with RJ Harvey that benefits a player like Bo Nix.
10:10So I think Bo Nix is on Payton taking over play.
10:13Yes. I think the most recent report is that he would be more heavily involved in play calling duties.
10:19According to Ian Rappaport, the way that I will remain collaborative.
10:23Yeah. With Davis Webb continuing to be a major voice in the game day and during the week.
10:29Here's what I genuinely believe is the case. I believe Sean Payton is going to fully take over play calling duty this week.
10:36And because the next following week is a short week, he's going to say, hey, Davis, I'm not taking it all over.
10:43You do next week. You can prepare. I'll do this week.
10:46Next week is the Seahawks. And so it's good.
10:49He's just putting Davis Webb out there to die like, oh, I got to take it back again.
10:55You didn't do good against the Seahawks. Does Sean Payton make Davis Webb call him coach?
11:00For sure. Or Mr. Payton. Yeah. The same way that, yes, chef.
11:03You ever heard Sean Payton talk before? Yeah. Oh, I have.
11:07That's why I'm asking the question. He's not a dude who gives up power very easily.
11:12Like, yeah. Hey, coach. Instead of Sean. I have Jalen Hurts, Tyler Shuck and Bo Nix in my dynasty.
11:18Oh. Andy, are you telling me as the start of the week you would?
11:22Shuck is against Minnesota, right? Yes. And Jalen Hurts is against himself.
11:26He's against Suck. I mean, that's the Jacksonville matchup.
11:29No, I would play Bo Nix. That's who I have in my lineup right now.
11:34You have him in dynasty? Yeah. Running back starts of the week, Jason.
11:38I've got in that Jalen Hurts game, Bayshel Tootin.
11:41He's averaging 17 opportunities a game. I know the Eagles defense is good.
11:45They look awesome. You know, they're scary on paper.
11:47But they were destroyed by Kyron Williams last year.
11:50They are tied for second. Last year? Last week.
11:53I pulled an Andy there. I've done that before.
11:56Tied for second most rushing touchdowns allowed so far this season.
11:59They're 28th in yards after contact per attempt. So I think Tootin is fine here.
12:04I wouldn't be scared off of the matchup. He's getting enough opportunities and you just love the Jags offense.
12:10And the Tootin breakout. We're just on the verge.
12:13I know. He's played so well. Like eye test, fantastic.
12:16Advanced metrics, fantastic. Total fantasy points, just lacking. But he feels like we're there, man.
12:21He still hasn't been bad. Like last week, 10 fantasy points.
12:24You're not excited. Right. But it's like that's not killing you.
12:28That's not killing you while he's not breaking out.
12:30He's been absolutely fine. So we do trade for him?
12:34Yes. All right, Mike. Who's your running back? It's gross, but I'm waving the white flag here of the Denver Broncos backfield.
12:41RJ Harvey, 17 opportunities this past week. And it was a, we know that that matchup, we're getting a lot of targets
12:47to the running back position, but 10 targets. Target is worth so much more.
12:52The disgusting nature of the Broncos offense. It's because Bo Nix is throwing it down, just checking it down real short.
12:58And I don't know why. Boring points. Yeah, they're boring points, but I'm, I'm just going to accept them from RJ Harvey against the Chargers this week.
13:07All right. My running back start of the week.
13:10It's an and or situation or, and or both.
13:13Yeah, no, I, that's, you know, Swift and Monungay.
13:15Mm-hmm. Just Monungay. Just Swift. Swamongay. Uh, they're both.
13:18Swamongay. Here's the thing. They get to play the Green Bay Packers.
13:22Miffed. And the bears identity has been to run the football without Caleb Williams.
13:2630 carries for common. I got last week. He hurt his thumb.
13:30Swift coming off the hamstring. Both guys didn't practice history.
13:33There was a point this week where Jason and I just had, he had Swift.
13:38I had Monungay at starts of the week with the practice reports were like, Hey, let's just go bears running back bears running back this week.
13:46I mean, I think my non guys, the better pure runner.
13:50I think Deandre Swift obviously had some more versatility.
13:52Last week was dominant for Monungay. Um, on the year 5.4 and 4.5 a carry.
13:57Yeah. That's like the, uh, that's, that's insane. So great rush success rate, but Monungay is on fire.
14:03If they're both active and I had to choose one, I would choose Monungay this week.
14:08I'm less worried about a thumb than a hamstring taking you off the field.
14:12Swift. He fumbled, right? Yeah. And he fumbled, but he had 35% of snaps.
14:17Like that was his total for the game. So, and that happened in the third quarter.
14:22I, I imagine that the limitations cause we thought Swift could miss the game are there as well.
14:27Yeah. I, I find starting either one, both and or at wide receiver, Michael Wilson, we, you know, to pair with Jacoby
14:34Brissett over there with Mike, you want pieces in this Detroit game 54 and a half point over under lion secondary is bad.
14:42And the important thing is Michael Wilson is what we saw at the end of last year with Parker Washington and Michael Wilson.
14:49It was like, is this real? Well, they looked great.
14:52They passed the eye test and they had great runs of fantasy success, but coming into this season, will it stick around?
14:59The answer is yes. The answer is they're the best wide receiver on their team.
15:0430 targets, the last two weeks. You got to keep starting Michael Wilson.
15:08They through the first two weeks, they tried not to, right?
15:11Yeah. Like the Arizona Cardinals was like, we're going to try and be more balanced.
15:16We'll spread it out just seven targets in week one, seven targets a week two.
15:20And then what? 30 over the past two weeks.
15:23And if you heard, you know, the floor came out yesterday and talked extensively about how impressed he is with Michael Wilson
15:30and how much better he has gotten. Like well, that's for sure.
15:34But I think one of the things that's been said before is, Hey, he's always going to be the second target to train McBride.
15:42Yep. Hasn't been the case so far this year.
15:44Like McBride's had a couple of like medium weeks and the targets have gone Michael Wilson's way.
15:50It's a culminator factor taking place in Arizona where when you throw the ball to Michael Wilson, it is a high probability
15:57play compared to going, you know, certainly to Marvin Harrison or Kendrick Bourne.
16:01So I love it. I think he is ascending and I think the matchup is just another way to cement himself.
16:07Mike, who do you got? I'm going Devante Adams against the Buffalo Bills.
16:11We had a down week. Puka's back. Yada, yada, yada.
16:15I still believe in Devante Adams. I mean, like weirdness.
16:18He's yet to see a target inside the tent.
16:21Devante Adams, last year's goal line wide receiver. That's very bizarre.
16:24And then the matchup, the Buffalo Bills, the terrifying Buffalo Bills.
16:27Their defense is completely in shambles. 29th and explosive play rate allowed.
16:31We love that. And 31st is scheduled adjusted to the position.
16:35So I have no, I have no concerns that like, oh no, Puka's back.
16:39We're, we got to take the back seat. No, Devante Adams still a great play.
16:44Dropped the touchdown last week. He catches that ball.
16:47You don't have any perception of a down week.
16:49I'm going Pickens light at wide receiver start of the week.
16:53J-Mo. I'm taking Jamison this week against Arizona. You have to live with the ups and downs of Jamison Williams.
16:59I thought there was a concerted effort last week to get him more involved.
17:04Caught a big play down the field. Had some big first downs.
17:07Um, we saw this last year. I mean, he was at eight fancy points per game, similar reception or sorry, receiving yards
17:14per game before he took off last season. Where do you want to take off?
17:19How about Arizona dead last and schedule adjusted fancy points to wide receiver.
17:23None of us are going to sit here and say, Hey, play I'm on raw.
17:28He's an auto start every week, but Jamo this week against Arizona, who cannot defend the wide receiver position.
17:34You know, we lost will Johnson already on the year and doesn't have the depth secondary to control Jamo.
17:40I think it's a good start. Yeah. Tied in.
17:43I'm going with Colston Loveland. Oh baby. The, the current, you know, bust pick that, uh, was not helpful for the first month of the season.
17:51But last week started heating up at as many targets in that game as you have the entire season.
17:57His target share 10%, 12%, 29%. Most importantly, it was with Tyler Bajan.
18:01Uh, so this is, you know, I, I expect him to be really involved in this game.
18:06You, you look at last year against the Packers, 15 targets.
18:10He was eight for one 37. It's a, it's, it's a matchup that they know how to exploit.
18:15And at some point you've got to play the more talented player.
18:19The other thing that I really like is he, I can't believe it didn't happen in week one, but he started playing
18:26more and more of the single tight end snaps over Cole commit, which should have happened, but we're seeing that happy barely leaves the field right now.
18:34So I, I'm, I'm fine starting Loveland. He's off the bench back into the lineup.
18:39Mike, I'm going with Isaiah likely of the New York giants against Washington.
18:43We had to hold our breath for two weeks after what looked like he was going to be the breakout late round
18:50tight end him and Dalton Kincaid Jackson dart goes down.
18:53Jameis comes in. It's a disaster for two weeks in a row.
18:57Well, last week shows that maybe Jameis is still Jameis that you have the mistakes will be there, but the big plays,
19:04the good stuff, the fantasy gold will be there.
19:07Uh, he, in fact, uh, through the first month leads all tight ends and target share.
19:12Like this is, he is absolutely being utilized. Take the, the first two Jameis games.
19:17I'm setting them to the side, at least for now.
19:20He also talking on likely he leads the giants of first downs and red zone targets.
19:25Plus the matchup against Washington is delicious for the position.
19:28And I mean, they, is there going to be any lag?
19:31They had to come back from overseas. I like them.
19:34All right. I'm going back to back lions on mine.
19:38I am taking Sam Laporta against Arizona. Did you know TJ Hawkinson at 13 targets last week?
19:43I did. Did you know Laporta had 13 targets last week?
19:46I did not realize teen targets last week. This is a team whose defense is just not getting it done.
19:53Arizona should be able to put up points. And, uh, when you are moving down the field, you're going to have Sam
20:00Laporta wide open tied with McBride, most red zone targets among tight ends.
20:04Most routes run among all tight ends in the NFL.
20:07Currently the tight end for number one in in zone targets.
20:10I mean, Arizona, they can't defend wide receivers, right?
20:13They're dead last. Oh wait, they're 29th against tight ends.
20:16So really bottom of the barrel, secondary play linebackers.
20:19Linebackers can't keep up with Laporta. He's played outstanding this year.
20:23So I'm going to make him start of the week.
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20:39We'll take a break. We'll jump into the forecast.
20:41By the way, if you, if you would like to either of you guys want to peruse the, uh, the waiver wire
20:48in our chopped league or guillotine league, you guys know I'm in a desperate situation this week.
20:54I want you to go discover how desperate this man over here is.
20:58Oh, to survive a week where Jamar chase and Ken Walker's on by camp.
21:02Scadaboo is banged up, which we should have mentioned.
21:05Uh, and I'll mention right now, but I added a little player that I have to play this week.
21:11Oh, how desperate, how desperate, whose hands am I in to survive a chop league where I have a bunch of injuries
21:18and, and by weeks, Marvin Harrison jr. See you later guys.
21:21Wow. Uh, by the way, we should have mentioned it.
21:24I don't know why it wasn't in the news, but yesterday, cam Scadaboo played in a non-contact Jersey.
21:30So, uh, one of the things you can do there is Najee Harris is available in most leagues everywhere.
21:36If you want to kind of ensure that start, if you have Scadaboo, that's what I would do.
21:42Let's go into the forecast. Fantasy forecast presented by prize picks.
21:45Yeah. According to the Falcon, he dropped Marvin Harrison as a landmine.
21:49Yeah. Well, here's the problem. The wide receivers that I could play over him right now.
21:54Um, Jamar chase. Okay. Okay. You'll play Jamar chase.
21:57Yeah. I would, except for he might not play.
22:00Okay. DJ more. How are we doing? If he plays, I would play him over him.
22:05Okay. How about Chris bell? Oh wait. He showed up as questionable on the injury report yesterday.
22:10Hmm. Would you play Trey Harris or Marvin Harrison?
22:13That's the decision I actually have. Oh dude. That's my actual start decision.
22:17I don't hate Trey. I know this week. I know.
22:20I know it'll be the difference in being alive and dead, but there you go.
22:25We have another London matchup. Are we doing this?
22:28We're doing this again. Um, well, yeah, I think from like, I know what is it here on out?
22:34We're going to get a good game here. Philly two and two taking on the Jacksonville Jaguars three and one Vegas line Jacks minus seven over under 41.5.
22:42Hmm. That is the second lowest implied point total for Philadelphia.
22:46So Philadelphia this week alone, Saquon got hurt. Tank bigs beat a IR.
22:50Devante Smith could miss multiple weeks. I doubt he plays and travels.
22:54We'll see. You lost Lane Johnson to retirement and you traded Cam Juergens and you're going to move forward with a different center.
23:01Hmm. And Darius Cooper's getting picked up in leagues.
23:04Cool, man. So cool. Cool. They should have spent a first round pick on a wide receiver.
23:09They did. Oh, they should use him and throw him the ball because he's open all the time.
23:15Are is Jalen Hurts a startable fantasy asset? Yes or no?
23:18No, not in a single quarterback. Especially not this.
23:21The Jags are for real on the defensive side.
23:24Dude, the fact that we can be listing all those things off of like you got to get weapons like you should have taken a wide receiver.
23:32You did. And they did. What about what about a stud pass catching tight end?
23:37And they are not like Eli Stowers. Well, swing and miss.
23:40Sometimes that does happen. It was high draft capital.
23:43Mackay Lemon is far more like that is malpractice.
23:46What are you doing? You need when he's out there with Devante Smith gone.
23:51You need to just tear it all up. Build it back up and say, how do we feature Mackay Lemon?
23:57Yeah, the weird thing is the routes like I, you know, I've watched a ton of his film and he is out there.
24:04He is used in every single way. He has gimmies.
24:07He's got middle of the field. He's got intermediate.
24:10He goes deep sometimes. Jalen Hurts just does not look his way.
24:14He just, I don't know what Mackay said to Jalen Hurts, but it's personal.
24:18He's got a problem with the rip tiles. I do think it will change.
24:23I do. I think that the talent will win out on the opportunity.
24:27This week? He's returning to practice, I believe. Jalen Hurts' prize picks projection is 193.5 passing yards.
24:32That is his lowest of 2026. He is average 176 a game.
24:36He's not getting enough. He's not scoring enough. If the offense is not near a tush push zone, you're not getting any of that.
24:43And so, you know, if you have to make a decision, Jason, you could chase Darius Cooper and his touchdowns.
24:50He's had three of them. You can chase Dontavian Wicks and his sort of like hit and miss nature.
24:56He's not getting any of the peripherals. I mean, he's actually out there running and getting targets.
25:01Man, but I watched him run a route one time last week and I was like, well, then you.
25:07I don't know about that. You got to watch more then because he's got plenty of great routes.
25:13And then Mackay Lemon. Yeah. Which of those three would you play?
25:16If I had to start them, the order I would go is Wicks because he's getting the deep shots.
25:22So the chance that one play hits your week and then I would go Lemon for talent and routes.
25:28And then I would go Cooper. Cooper had 28% of the targets last week.
25:33Yeah. I'm kind of in on the Cooper. Like you're like, hey, maybe you'll get a touchdown.
25:38I think I go Wicks, Cooper, Lemon, which is crazy.
25:41Stupid. Crazy. Trevor Lawrence on the other side going up.
25:44Hold on the running backs. Like, are you playing Will Shipley?
25:48Oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah. Like that's really the biggest conversation.
25:51I believe Damien Pierce is playing for me in a league this week.
25:55All right. I'm not proud of it. I said it out loud, but I'm not proud of it.
26:01I have no other option. No other option. Yeah.
26:04I mean, if you listen to what Nick Sirianni talked about, he's like, we have a starting NFL running back that we've hidden on the practice report.
26:12I didn't want to talk him up because I didn't want people to take him off the practice report, but we've got a practice squad.
26:20Like I, you know, he's like talking about him.
26:23Like we have a starting. Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Sirianni.
26:26They all knew all the teams are aware. You think these billion dollar franchise, they were so aware that you didn't have
26:33them on your active roster as well. Like he's such a stud.
26:36You think this is what like, you know, you were talking about this with the players on another team yesterday.
26:43You get asked about a player. What are you going to say about a player?
26:47Yeah. I mean, he wasn't better than Shipley. He wasn't better than, than tank Bigsby.
26:52That is hilarious. I mean, the truth is though, they will not just give ship Larry carry.
26:58So that's the another front office. As soon as like Damien Pierce gets called up and they're just what they had Damien Pierce this whole time.
27:06I am committing. If only they had talked about him, we would have known.
27:10I'm committing the entire season to take away the, the number one pick for Matt from the Falcon and from Papa Josh in our Dino senior league.
27:19And you guys got to be worried. Darius Cooper and Damien Pierce coming your way this week.
27:24So, but in turn, I will play Shipley over Pierce.
27:27I would just hope you get some pass catching.
27:30Would you play Shipley over someone like JK Dobbins?
27:33No, not against Jacksonville. Jacksonville seventh against running backs.
27:36It'll be split up. They're going to be in a position where the running game is not how they're, how the Philadelphia
27:42Eagles are going to get back into the game.
27:45Uh, I it's close to me on that one.
27:48I think Shipley will get some opportunities in the passing game, but I kind of, I think I lean with Mike.
27:55I mean, 48% of snaps last week for Shipley led to one target.
27:59No catches six for 23. Uh, it might be nasty.
28:02Trevor Lawrence, Bay Shaw, tootin Jason started the week, Parker Washington, only three targets last week, one for seven.
28:08Yeah. Uh, no, that's not true. Is it? How many targets did he have last week?
28:13I feel like that was three targets. Yeah. No.
28:16Oh, one catch for seven. Yeah. He was a disaster.
28:19It's all right. Look, Brenton strange went crazy last week.
28:22It happens. He also had a, uh, touchdown like drop.
28:25Like he, he was, there was, there was a play where if that play connects, you're fine.
28:31And you're still happy with Parker Washington last week.
28:33It's the bangles tight ends destroy the bangles and Jacksonville adjusted.
28:37Yeah. Uh, we have outside of Parker Washington. What are you doing with Jacoby Myers, Brian Thomas, Jr., Britain strange strange was really good last week.
28:45I don't think I'm looking to start any of them.
28:48I mean, anyone can have a game. Obviously Brian Thomas, Jr.
28:52Caught the touchdown last week, but I, uh, I'm kind of Parker Washington confident and everyone else I'm looking elsewhere.
28:58Chicago's three and one taking on the green Bay Packers.
29:01We already kind of talked a little bit about this game talking about, Oh my goodness.
29:06Talking about the, uh, situation of running back for Chicago, but the Vegas line here, Chicago minus one and a half on the road.
29:14So you are road favorites with a backup quarterback Tyson Bajance.
29:17It's been such, I mean, I, I don't, I, we are.
29:21It's a good thing that Jeremy is not here.
29:23It's not good for green Bay, but they are the, Oh, that's embarrassing.
29:27They're the worst two and two team out there.
29:30This is the first time that Chicago has been a favorite in Lambeau in 20 years.
29:35With the years and they've got a backup quarterback.
29:38So some of it's been Johnson and like credit and some of it is the Packers and like, I mean, a lot of it is the pack.
29:47Yeah. Watching them is well, do you have two and two?
29:50If you have a man, guy and Swift, do you see a world where the bears can't just ball possessed like they did last year or last week?
29:59Oh my gosh. You guys have a sickness. It's something weird has happened in the last 48 hours.
30:05I don't know why. I don't, I just don't see them.
30:08If you adjust for the schedule played currently, the Packers are dead last against running backs, giving up 8.8 fantasy points more than expected.
30:16So yeah, this is going to be a run down your throat type of game.
30:20Um, yeah, yeah, that's, that's just, it's hard to see that stopping now offensively.
30:25It's, it's, you know, Watson and golden area in your lineup for good.
30:29Green Bay. Right. What do you do with the, and so is craft, but what do you do with the wide receiver room for the bears?
30:37It's really hard. I mean, some of this just feels like you're, you're chasing the previous week.
30:42I want to say Rome. Rome is definitely out there for the most snaps and single wide receiver sets.
30:48He's out there. He's getting the targets. We saw it last week.
30:52You follow that up with, you know, Hey, it's finally the same quarterback in back to back weeks.
30:58Maybe we have something we can go off of.
31:00However, you know, Ben Johnson is the type of guy where it's like every week is going to be a new game plan.
31:08You'll put both quarterbacks on the field to start the game just because he's.
31:12Oh, did you? So on that note, it officially because of rules, the start, I mean, it did go to case Keenum.
31:19So in the record books, case Keenum got the victory as the starter, not, not Tyson.
31:24Okay. You asked smart yourself on that one. And John, so as of right now, a prize, if you're going off of
31:31the prize picks projections, burden would be the favorite.
31:34Oh really? But it's not great. It's 44 and a half receiving yards for burden.
31:38Rome's at 38 and a half. Did you see the stats on Cleve Raymond?
31:43He went about 50% rostered last week and ended up with six total yards as predicted on this show.
31:49We all knew it was going to happen. I mean, we, we, we've been there long enough to know what Cleve Raymond is.
31:56So yeah, I mean, Jordan love has not hit 20 fantasy points yet this year.
32:01Is that true? Brother crazy. He, he hasn't been that bad.
32:04I thought week one, there was a whole 19.5, 13.8, 18.5, 13.1, just under in week one with three 87 and two.
32:11So would you play love or Drake may against Vegas?
32:14I mean, when you say love is in Lambo, you feel like you should be able to start him.
32:20Yeah. You, I have, I have love higher in my projections as of right now, but I'd play Bo Nix my start of the week over.
32:28Oh wait. No, I apologize. Drake may is one spot ahead of Jordan love.
32:33Yeah. But where are they in your weekly rankings?
32:36Eight and nine. Okay. Which that, that right now just has, cause that's got like Jayden Daniels behind the two of them,
32:43which when we get like systems go, we do have systems go.
32:46Well, I, it's Thursday. I, people lie in the NFL.
32:50So it's just, when you're like really confident that's going to happen.
32:53I imagine Jayden will move up. Oh, that's a tough call.
32:57I would like both the, the over under is better for Drake.
33:01The implied total looks about the same for both.
33:03I would probably, I think I'd play Jordan love.
33:06Do you guys have permission from your doctor to talk about the running game for the Packers?
33:12Sure. Is that okay with blood pressure? Yeah. Gosh.
33:14Cholesterol and things like that. Not mine. My blood work is, is actually pretty good, but I want it to stay that way.
33:22I mean, do you mess around here? So the, Chris Brooks is not practicing.
33:26There is a path that's called Chris Brooks is out.
33:29So Marshawn Lloyd gets another five plus targets. That's the path.
33:33I mean, but that doesn't matter. I mean, Marshawn Lloyd is.
33:36Talk to your friend Andy over here. He just said he's starting Damian Pierce.
33:40In a really crappy dynasty league. It does matter.
33:43It's gross. I mean, last week. RB, RB 34 last week for Marshawn Lloyd.
33:48Wait, that's the positive spin? Well, I'm saying like.
33:50It's like not in the top 30. People are playing more than 24 running backs.
33:55He had five targets last week. Yeah. Um, he did not score eight fantasy points.
34:00He also. Percent of runs have been stopped at the line of scrimmage for Green Bay.
34:05The fumbling issue for both Caleb Johnson and Marshawn Lloyd, um, was talked about.
34:09And there's just like, they will be benched. If either of them fumble the ball, they will not touch the ball again.
34:16Like genuinely, they will be out for the game.
34:19So then who's after they both fumble, then what happens?
34:22They just start. We just go zero. Yeah. Zero.
34:25They just throw it every, every single time. All right.
34:28Houston. Oh, and for Tennessee is oh, and for.
34:31Oh boy. Somebody has to win. Probably. Uh, two.
34:34Oh, and for AFC South teams. We had news that D'Amico Ryan's is taking back play calling duties on the defensive side
34:41of the football, which the defense has been the most surprisingly bad part of this team.
34:46They're 25th in fancy points allowed to quarterback 32nd to wide receivers dead last.
34:50I mean, this was a team that no one could throw on last year.
34:55No, they did. They've been able to now. Tennessee is a team that we've never seen throw the ball.
35:01Well, really, but they're going to get smushed. I don't, I Kyle, look this up.
35:05This has to be like the only time that an oh and for.
35:09Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
35:13Andy's almost upset of the week. Number one. It's smushed is your new word of the week.
35:18Yeah. Because you must've said on the Sunday morning when we were watching games, oh man, that guy got smooth.
35:24Well, to be fair. More times than I can.
35:27To be fair. This was a smushed. When I was watching people get tackled, it was more of a smushed.
35:34Yeah, that's true. Yeah. There's a difference. More home seven and a half point dogs for the Titans.
35:39That that's what I was curious about is, is there a time where an oh and four team has been over a touchdown favorite before?
35:47Cause that's wild over under 38 and a half.
35:50There is not a lot of fantasy value to be had in this one.
35:54You know, you're going to play Nico Collins because he's in that stud tier.
35:59We had long debates about Montgomery and marks. I don't want to play either one of them.
36:04Really Marshawn Lloyd or. I play Lloyd. Okay. If Chris Brooks is out.
36:08Yeah. Just for pass catching. Rubber right. Yeah. No, I mean, you know, Tony Pollard is not practicing on Wednesday with the foot.
36:15They seem to be resting him periodically. I think the biggest actual question mark in this game from a start set perspective is just Carnell Tate.
36:24You know, 12 targets, nine for one 45. You don't want to, you know, that's, that's a great line.
36:30He should be started. Yeah. Fumbled and needs to hold the ball closer to his chest.
36:35Yeah. The way he runs. I mean, he, I think he fumbled twice, lost one of them and looked like he was going to fumble every time.
36:43Um, hopefully that was brought up. Yeah. Hopefully that was brought up in the film room.
36:48But yeah, I mean, this is a player who he got nine targets two weeks ago.
36:53I'd play him over Marv. Yeah. I play him over Cooper.
36:57Darius Cooper. I mean, obviously D'Amico Ryan's taking over play call.
37:00Maybe they completely fix it, but this has been a team that has given up a lot of points to wide receivers.
37:07Colonel Tate has, you know, 21 targets in the last two weeks and is awesome.
37:12Would you play him over a valet? Yeah. This week against the Vikings.
37:16I would too. I don't think Carnell Tate's a bad start.
37:19No, no, I, I think it's Nico and Carnell Tate and then the rest of it you're trying to avoid.
37:25Yeah. We needed to see it first with Carnell Tate.
37:29I like all the people. If you have nine for one 45 on your bench, that sucks, but you needed to, but
37:36I had to see at least something. So the, the targets plus that the, the Texans defense to the wide receiver position,
37:42at least thus far, they're giving up an extra nine points over expectations.
37:46So that's 30th against the position. Yeah. You're going to, you're going to hold your breath, but I'd put them out there.
37:53All right. We'll take a break and jump into some more matchups.
37:57We've got another own four team about to try to get off the schneid.
38:02There's a skeeter in here. You got a, Oh no, that's a mosquito.
38:06Yeah. So you flick the mosquito at me. Did you, why would you not smoosh it?
38:11I'm trying to smoosh it. No, you flick. Yeah.
38:14Well, you could kill it with a flick. No, you can't.
38:17Oh, I kill him. But you said I tried to smoosh.
38:20No, you don't. You don't flick them all the time and kill them.
38:25I do too. That's a lie. With flies, you flick.
38:28With flies, that's the number one way to. Why do you flick, with flies.
38:32I can't slap a fly. You said it was a mosquito.
38:36Oh, I can only slap a fly. What? Yeah.
38:38I can never slap a fly. You must have a.
38:41My aim's too slow. You can flick a fly.
38:44Oh, I can flick a fly. I've seen it.
38:47But what about the skeeter you flicked at me?
38:50Why do you want it to eat me? I'm hoping it's not me.
38:54Because then it's dead when it's on you. I don't think you killed that.
38:58First of all, you missed. I did. I know for a fact.
39:02I saw he flew around. Second of all, I'm not sure it was a mosquito.
39:07Oh, I know it was. Okay. That's why you didn't smash it.
39:11Josh is thinking you can't flick the fly. Yes, you can.
39:14Oh, I. You approach very slowly. Yeah, you approach slowly.
39:17You have fast flick. I flick flies all the time.
39:20You're locked and loaded. You can flick a fly fastly?
39:24I can flick a fly. Absolutely. Papa Josh doesn't believe you.
39:27It's true. Yeah. I can do the monkey bars too.
39:30No. Okay. Jay, you can't do that. I was backing you, man.
39:34Yeah. I was supporting you and then you're like, this thing that everyone knows is not true.
39:39Mike has seen me flick a fly. Yes. Well, I can't tell.
39:43Cincinnati Bengals two and two. Miami's 0-4. Cincinnati minus six and a half on the road over under 42 and a half.
39:50It's a nice implied point total of just under 25 for the Bengals.
39:54Miami is leading the way every week on lowest implied point totals.
39:58They have one passing touchdown in four weeks. So, yeah.
40:01Again, I already apologized last week. Nothing is working.
40:04And now A-Chan's gone. It's been really, really bad.
40:07A-Chan's gone in the running game way better somehow.
40:09Yeah. I mean, it was really good for Ollie Gordon last week.
40:13It was. Nine for 101. He is the one that looks like a three down back.
40:18But the pass catching, it was like two targets intentionally to start the game.
40:23Never got another one. You know, Jalen Wright, don't worry about it.
40:26And the wide receiver room, you have injured rookies.
40:29Caleb Douglas won't play. Chris Bell is banged up with a knee.
40:33You got Malik Washington who is. He's safe. PPR Shakir for seven, eight points.
40:37He is safe for that. And so I look, Ollie Gordon against Cincinnati.
40:42Cincinnati's defense is much improved and musty. Very musty as well.
40:45But they're 11th against running backs. I think Ollie Gordon, if he was in your lineup last week, you're probably playing him again.
40:52It's funny how we look at. I don't really see a reason to bench him.
40:57It's funny how we look at Cincinnati's defense. They are playing so much better than they were last year that I just look at them as like elite.
41:06Oh, no, it's Cincinnati. Watch out. They're not the defense target.
41:09But they're really just now like an average NFL defense.
41:12They can present problems, but they're not some complete shutdown defense.
41:16I think Ollie Gordon is, he should earn more work.
41:19What he has done the last two weeks on the field, if they come out and they do this 50-50 split again, I think it's silly.
41:27Yeah, we got a hot one here. Ollie Gordon or Braylon Allen for the New York Jets, which Braylon Allen got.
41:34It wasn't, we didn't really get fantasy points because the Jets ran about two plays.
41:38But Braylon Allen was a full workhorse in that game.
41:42I would go Ollie. I think I would go Ollie as well, but it's not like the Jets aren't trying to have few, they're playing so slow.
41:50I just am fearful if you're not. Hampton against the Broncos or Ollie Gordon.
41:54I'm sorry, Jason. That's disgusting. I knew it was.
41:57I'm going to stick. Oh, gosh. I will. I will go Hampton.
42:01Yeah. We're waiting on news from Jamar Chase going through concussion protocol.
42:05T Higgins did not practice with a groin injury.
42:08My policy on the Bengals this week. I had some people text me asking me the same thing.
42:13I'm playing Dante Myers no matter what if both those guys are out.
42:17Really? If both of them are out. If both are out, he is a must start to me.
42:23What if it's just one? I don't think so personally.
42:26I don't think he's a must start. He is talented.
42:29He's explosive. I don't think he's 10 targets because you're going to.
42:33First of all, the tight end does very well against the Dolphins.
42:37The Dolphins don't do enough to where you continue passing.
42:40So you basically in most of these games, it feels like you get a quarter and a half, maybe a whole half that you're really throwing the ball.
42:49I mean, how do they if you don't have Chase and Higgins, you've got to do something to take the lead.
42:55I have enough confidence in Dante Myers who once Chase came out, got nine targets last week.
43:01I get what you're saying. Yeah, the Dolphins have to get ahead somehow.
43:05And I think Myers will play a big role.
43:08Yeah. But if Gisicki gets a touchdown or Chase Brown gets a touchdown, then the wide receiver core is honestly, I think
43:15you might be being bailed out here because like T Higgins, obviously you're going to start in all games.
43:21It's probably not going to like if he was active, it's probably not great right now.
43:26The Dolphins adjusted fantasy points. They are dead last.
43:28Like they're the worst matchup for wide receivers. Not because they shut people down because you don't need them.
43:34No, you might be right there. You're making me second guess the level of conviction.
43:39I do think if they're both out, you can play him, but maybe there's more risk than I am.
43:45I originally thought. Yeah, it's more of a matchup thing to me.
43:49Dante Myers is very explosive and an exciting guy to plug in a lineup if those other two guys are gone.
43:55And I'm certainly not saying he can't do something really special and great.
44:00You can start him, but I just don't. I'm worried they're not going to need wide receivers in this game because the Dolphins are not good.
44:08So speaking of that, you have Mike Gasicki in seven games without Tee Higgins since 2024 averages 49 receiving yards per game.
44:15It's a decent matchup. Mike Gasicki has always or almost always come through when Tee is out.
44:20Are you throwing him in? Yeah, I think so.
44:23I think Gasicki deserves a start. I mean, I wouldn't throw him in over really good options.
44:28But if you're talking about the tier of like, OK, we don't know what we have in Kenyon Sadiq.
44:34Yeah, I'd throw. I would throw Gasicki in over him.
44:37Do you guys know the most points Miami scored in any single game this year?
44:42Was it last week against Minnesota 20? No, they they only scored 10.
44:46Oh, they wait. What am I thinking of? Am I wrong about that?
44:50I thought I thought they scored 10 points. They scored 10 points.
44:54It's 10 to 15. Oh, I added it. I gave them both an extra 10.
44:59How about the week before against Kansas City? How many points do they score?
45:03Three. 10. 10. OK. What about San Francisco the week before?
45:06Is it 10? No, it's 13. Oh, come on.
45:09What about the Raiders? 13. So they have not surpassed 13.
45:13So to Jason's point. Yeah, they stink. You know, your first point was that, hey, this this Bengals defense isn't actually special.
45:20It's just more middle of the pack now. So maybe at home they can find a way to 14 points.
45:26But yeah, they're just I mean, they have an implied point of middle of the pack.
45:31Oh, maybe they can find a way to 14 for the first time this season.
45:36No. And you're like, you're not doing it, but we got to call it or I'm going to call it out just because it's fun.
45:44The Bengals was over and over. They get killed by the tight end position.
45:48Greg Dulcich, if you are a very desperate person, maybe just more like a DFS situation, but it's like he should get
45:55he should get five or more targets. Las Vegas, the Raiders three and one my Raiders taking on the two and two New England Patriots in New England.
46:04They're favored three and a half points over unders 45 and a half.
46:08This is this is like one of the things that happened this offseason with the Raiders that we were in love with was the acquisition of Tyler Linderbaum.
46:17Dude, it it's so easy. Fix your offensive line and everything looks great.
46:21Kirk Cousins is not fleet of foot and yet is pressured the second least among any quarterback in football.
46:27When you let a veteran quarterback stand back there and pick you apart.
46:31This is why he's leading the league in touchdown passes.
46:34I mean, it hasn't worked in the running game in terms of efficiency, but it's worked in my opinion.
46:40You know, Jinty has been viable every single week.
46:43The efficiency, the big plays. Maybe that's Mike Washington's game, but Jinty has been running back five 26 20 and 15.
46:49He's RB 10 on the year and he's never had fewer than 15 rush attempts in a game.
46:55Eight targets for Jinty last week. Eight. He's on pace right now for 102 targets.
47:00So he is a do everything back that frees up, you know, your offensive line to play action and use these tight
47:07ends in Michael Mayer and Brock Bowers and Ian Thomas.
47:10This has been an impressive offensive product put out there by Kubiak, which is what we hope for.
47:15But we said, do you have the personnel to do it?
47:19Right. And I don't even know if the answer to that is really yes on offense and yet he's still doing it.
47:26No, they're getting it all done even without Jack Besh available.
47:29Incredible work. Incredible work. I mean, you thought it couldn't be done.
47:33When he went down, I was like, it's over.
47:36On the dynasty show this week, we actually had a really fun kind of informative segment where we were drafting NFL play
47:43callers, current active NFL play callers and Kubiak, I believe he was fourth.
47:47Oh, like we were very, very bullish on his designs, his systems.
47:51Obviously last year with the Seahawks, but it goes back many years and what he's getting out of this offense right now is fantastic.
47:58And I love the consolidation. I mean, the fact that you know you want to start Brock Bowers and you're not afraid
48:05Jente, even if he's inefficient, you're going to start him and then you can be done.
48:10I will say just real quick, Jalen Naylor got a concussion last week.
48:14Trey Tucker did have eight targets and there is bad.
48:17And on Wednesday, Dante Myers, Trey Tucker. Hold on.
48:20Part of the Wednesday's practice report. Uh, three Patriots cornerbacks were absence, including Christian Gonzalez.
48:25Oh, fantastic. So Trey Tucker's very interesting. If you make sure you're following the news, I think Tucker's interesting regardless, but if
48:32Gonzalez especially is out, then all right. You think New England handles this game or no?
48:37I think they're at home. They're favored. Drake may got his mojo back.
48:41Romeo Dobbs had a couple touchdowns. You're the Raiders guy.
48:44What do you think? What are your, how do your Raiders fair here in New England?
48:49I feel like I think New England is going to win the game.
48:53Yeah. I want to see before Drake, did New England start last year with a loss to the Raiders?
48:59They did. That was the Raiders only win. Yeah.
49:02I, I don't know. I don't, I don't have the conviction this week that, that New England's going to lose this game.
49:09I like what I saw on defense last week.
49:12Maybe if those corners are out, you got a problem, but I don't think they're all going to be out and, and,
49:19you know, I feel like this is a real pick them game.
49:22So like if I'm picking the line because New England is three and a half, I'll, I'll be on the Raiders side.
49:29I'll take the field goal. But, uh, I, I expect it to be pretty, pretty close.
49:34That being said that those close games are usually really good for fantasy, you know, as, as the game goes into the
49:41fourth quarter and you know, that they took the lead.
49:44Now we've got to get the lead and you get a lot of passing volume.
49:49That's the opportunity we have here. Yeah. The overrunner is not terrible.
49:53What about the running back situation for New England?
49:56Ramondre was limited on Wednesday, not a full out.
49:58According to the report I have Travion Henderson. It's been, you know, one hit and a lot of miss, but if he's alone, then you play him.
50:07Then you got to go with Travo. If he gets all the volume, he will get two explosive plays.
50:13I mean, you saw last year when, when Ramondre was injured and they brought in Jamal Williams for a workout.
50:19That's not, I mean, it could just be coincidence on timing, but, uh, the Ramondre Stevenson knee injury could, could rule him out this week.
50:27The last two weeks, uh, he hasn't had the big play eight for 23, 14 for 42 on the ground.
50:33Um, we'll see what happens this week. If Ramondre is limited, would you play if Ramondre is active?
50:39Are you benching Travo or are you flexing him?
50:42I play him over Damien Pierce. Yes. Okay. Just know that that shouldn't really be our benchmark.
50:47I'm just saying that if you've seen my dynasty team, you understand why he's in my lineup.
50:52Yep. There's a bar. Are you playing Mike Washington jr.
50:56Or Damien Pierce, Mike? Hmm. Cause that's the actual decision.
50:59I probably play Washington. Oh gosh. Uh, one of those guys can house it from 50.
51:04Yeah. The thing that I, the thing that I love, like, so last year there were three games that Ramondre missed.
51:10And in those games you had a game with five targets and a game with six targets for Travion Henderson.
51:17I don't know why they don't throw him the ball as it is currently enough.
51:21I mean, they, they really use Ramondre as their passing back far more, but that's what excites me about the opportunities that
51:28Henderson would receive if Ramondre is gone. Matt Collins left the game with a non-contact injury this past week.
51:34Calf. Calf. Pay attention to it. Romeo Dobbs. Maybe we're, we're starting to figure things out with Drake may nine targets.
51:41He gets deep shots. He did score twice the matchup against the Raiders.
51:45They like, they've been holding wide receivers under their expects expectation.
51:48So I don't love that. But if Matt Collins is out, Romeo Dobbs is pretty much a top 24 must play.
51:55Agreed. The Minnesota Vikings in their miraculous four and O start, despite not scoring touchdowns in two other four games.
52:01Take on the New Orleans Saints who are one and three, the games in New Orleans, Minnesota favored by one and a half.
52:09The overrunner is just 42 and a half. So this one's tough because there, there's just a lot of players that you've been very confident in.
52:17Yeah. You know, Tyler Shuck, obviously Devon Vele has been a worthy play.
52:21Juwan Johnson's the tight end three on the year.
52:24And obviously Olave who he didn't practice on Wednesday, which might alarm you because he left early on Monday night.
52:30But you got to remember it's a short week for them.
52:33A rest day is what they're, they've come out and vehemently said this is not about the knee because they knew those questions would be there.
52:42They said it's a rest day, but if there's another non knee rest Thursday, I will be worried about the knee.
52:48Exactly. Olave is going to be started no matter what, if he's active, he's, he's too good.
52:53The matchup sucks. Everything could go bad. But the other guys, Shuck, Camara, Vele, Juwan Johnson, I think that there are probable
53:00pivots in most situations for those guys. The Vikings defense has just been too doggone good.
53:05They're number one against quarterbacks, number one against running backs, number six against tight ends.
53:10They're just, they're awesome. There's a reason why Minnesota is four and oh, and what's crazy here is the Saints, the Saints
53:17who have looked really good this year. Like they're, they're passing my eye test other than getting boat raced at home on primetime this last week.
53:25Um, yeah, they failed the eye test on that one.
53:28It feels like they're about to be one in four.
53:32Yes, they will be. Yeah. And, and it's, you know, Juwan Johnson, is he a start this week?
53:37Do you stay in the flames? Minnesota is so good against the tight end position.
53:42Pretty much. I don't know. He is to me like, he's okay.
53:46Colson Loveland, I would play over him. Um, he's.
53:48I'd play him over Sadiq. Would you, what about.
53:51Fanon? No, I would play Fanon. Yeah. I would try to play.
53:55I would play Isaiah likely. And then after those guys, that's basically where I go.
54:00Juwan Johnson. He's my 12th. We do have a, the precedent of last week.
54:04Oh, the garbage man can. Yeah. Even if they're down, there may be opportunities there.
54:09I wouldn't touch a running back on new Orleans with a thousand foot pole right now against Minnesota and we'll monitor the Olave situation.
54:16Chuck, I'd be trying to find another option because he could have an okay game, but his ceiling is very capped by Minnesota.
54:24Aaron Jones has been a top 24 back in all four weeks, guys.
54:28He's just sneakily part of this operation, right? You, you don't have the best quarterback in football.
54:33You do have a great defense run the ball.
54:36Yeah. I mean, with Jordan Mason on IR, they really don't have, they don't believe in Claiborne to come in as a
54:43rookie and, and protect the quarterback and do those things.
54:46Aaron Jones, you know, we talk about these older veterans getting off to pretty hot starts to start the season.
54:52Maybe they fade down the stretch. It's still early.
54:55I think Aaron Jones is just a fantastic start.
54:58It was almost my start of the week. They're Kyler's on the Malik Willis plan right now.
55:03One touchdown and three starts. So, you know, he's not an option.
55:07No. And the question I have for you is with Jefferson potentially returning, how do you view Jefferson in this, in the grand scheme of rest of season?
55:16Like, like Kyler, I don't think maybe he gets a little bit better as he acclimates and they figure out what he does better.
55:23You take a big breath and you hope and you pray.
55:27I mean, whatever you thought in draft season is what, you know, when, when we were looking at the back of the
55:34first with Justin Jefferson, we were a little bit more hesitant because we knew that it could go poorly with Kyler.
55:40Now, early in the season, it was like, okay, obviously Justin Jefferson is still him.
55:45And when Carson Wentz was there, he was fantastic.
55:48But with, with, with Kyler, I do think you're going to have a nerfed version of the best wide receiver in football.
55:55And then Hawkinson, if Jefferson's back, are you benching him?
55:58Are you playing Loveland? Are you playing Joe Watson?
56:01Yeah, I would play those guys over him. Just not chasing 13 targets if Jefferson's back in there.
56:06Correct. And then Addison is a full bench. Yeah, that, yeah.
56:10And that being said, if Jefferson doesn't play this week, then Hawkinson is a must start.
56:15Yeah, I would agree with that. And then the Jordan Addison's a DMP right now with a hamstring.
56:21So it could be Hawk. It could be Hawk and Jefferson.
56:24There is a third scenario where Addison's out. Yeah.
56:27So something to kind of keep an eye on.
56:30If there's consolidation there, don't, you know, you probably, I think a lot of people went and spent on Hawkinson at that point.
56:37If Addison is out. So coming in this morning, TJ Hawkinson was my start of the week.
56:42He was who I was. I like the matchup.
56:45I like what we saw last week. We know how Kyler plays, but with, oh, the Skeeter's back.
56:51Are you getting a mosquito bit? He's trying. I'm dumb.
56:54I'm at least you started. At least you started slapping.
56:57You're not like flicking around like a weirdo. But really good podcast.
57:01The matchup, the matchup is, uh, is very good for Hawkinson.
57:04I just don't want him to be the third target.
57:07If Addison or Jefferson are gone, he, he moves ahead of that, that other tier of the Jawan Johnson.
57:13Did you see that, uh, video that is going around on, uh, Instagram out in Arizona with that, uh, spider coming out of the, Oh yeah.
57:22No, I have not. Yeah. I have not. Will not.
57:25I seen it about, you don't want to see it climbing out of the vent.
57:29You don't want to see it. Remember you had a spider in your car and you had to pull over in the middle.
57:37Okay. He took your headphones off Cleveland three in one, New York one in three.
57:41Even I'm not a, I have no problem with spiders.
57:44Even that video was like, Oh, that was a bad video.
57:48Yeah. Um, can you call triple A for that?
57:51That was like the one years ago. You got to call Jeremy.
57:55It crawled out of the girl's mouth. Burn that car.
57:58Huh? It was like the one years ago where it, the spider just crawls out of this girl's mouth.
58:04Yeah. Uh, don't click that Lincoln slack. Cleveland three in one, New York one in three, the jets, the Vegas line here,
58:11jets minus one and a half over under 39 and a half.
58:14Uh, in a battle of slow. Um, these are, this is, you, you want to take the Frank Reich led offense of the jets.
58:22That's 29th and pace of play and combine it with Todd Monkens 25th and pace of play.
58:27This game will be, this game might be over before you know it.
58:31Seriously. I mean the clock, it will be a full running clock.
58:35Yeah. The clock will never stop. So under 39 and a half.
58:39What, what are your choices here? Denzel Boston been so impressive.
58:42Garrett Wilson. He's an auto start for your team.
58:45Is Boston entering that category of auto start with the amount of shots I take to him?
58:50He's entering it. I watched, uh, all of his film this last week and, and he's doing, he's doing a little bit
58:57of everything, but he's got plays on film, uh, as a blocker.
59:01Like that, that this team has to be just doing handstands about their excitement over Denzel Boston.
59:07And even though they drafted Concepcion first and he's good, it feels like Boston is their, their wide receiver one.
59:13I think he should be started like going forward weekend and week out.
59:17He should be, he should be in there. Now the matchup isn't great simply because very similar to the dolphins.
59:23And then you add in the pace of play.
59:26You just don't need a lot against them, but I mean, maybe the Browns will.
59:31Yeah. The jets have been a run funnel. So, or I mean a running back funnel.
59:36So you're like Judkins. It was a nice targets.
59:39The targets really, really helped last week. I don't know if those will continue.
59:43I'll probably still play Judkins though in this matchup.
59:46And then Braylon Allen, we saw the good and the bad, the opportunities.
59:50The good, the bad was how slow and incapable the offense was.
59:54Well, Wilson had a tough game last week. I'm still taking the, the volume.
59:58Ninety four percent of the snaps. Ja'Cory Krosky, Merritt, or Braylon Allen.
60:02So he got four snaps? Was JCM or Braylon Allen?
60:05Return in Jaden Daniels. Probably still Braylon. I would go JCM.
60:08This is a battle of a 60 and 64 year old play caller.
60:13What? And that's some front porch, rocking chair offenses, man.
60:16Get off my lawn. Harold Fannin. Keep playing him if you've been playing him.
60:20Yeah, I guess. And just like live with the slow.
60:23Colts, two and two. Steelers, two and two. Vegas line Pittsburgh minus two and a half over under 44 and a half.
60:30You know, this is Indianapolis. They had to play in Europe last week.
60:34Now you got to play a road game in Pittsburgh.
60:37You know, that's only happened twice in history where you have a team with that bad of a draw where you go from international to a road game.
60:46How'd the other two teams do? They did bad.
60:49They lost both of the games and the Steelers have an extra three days rest.
60:54They come off Thursday night game. Kind of not matching up there.
60:57That's not. That's disgusting. Yeah. You get extra time and you get to stay on the road.
61:03So that got that. The thing that can't be that thing that's funny right now for Pittsburgh can't be what it can't
61:10be that hard to like get an actual fair schedule.
61:13That's a lot of teams, a lot of moving parts, Mike.
61:16Yeah, I mean, I've never tried. I've never sat down and tried to figure it out.
61:21I'm just do you think they get that and then they just go like they see a couple problems and they're like, well, the rest.
61:29I don't want to redo this math. I guess that's OK.
61:33Have you ever numbered something? Yeah. Putting a list together and then you find out you missed 18.
61:38Yeah. And you're like, well, what do I do now?
61:41Whatever. 17B it is. I guess this one that I would have been 18 is now 38.
61:47Yeah, it's funny because I don't we haven't liked the Pittsburgh offensive like potential and yet they should be OK in this one.
61:54The turnstile defense of the Colts, the fact they're at home.
61:57Jalen Warren's been on fire. We don't know if Rico will even play either way.
62:02You play Warren. You don't play Rico and then the wide receivers.
62:06I mean, I I still think Metcalf is somebody you can keep playing because the targets are the targets are there.
62:13It's disgusting. Right. But it just kind of is what it is.
62:16And I would say top 10 quarterback two straight weeks when you add in the matchup when you add in the fact
62:23that the you know, you don't the Colts defense has just been really bad.
62:28I don't know sauce Gardner. I know he was coming off of an injury, but he's just he has not changed this defense at all.
62:36There's still a defense you target. So I think DK Metcalf is an OK play this week.
62:41Would you play him over Josh Downs because down.
62:44Yes. Yes. See, I would too. And we thought Downs would break out last week.
62:48He was on the field for almost every snap.
62:51But, you know, Aaron Jones or Daniel Jones doesn't look like the Daniel Jones of last year.
62:57His fantasy points. It's not just fantasy points. Nine, eleven, seven point nine, seven point nine.
63:02Looks like a guy who's coming off of an Achilles.
63:05They I mean, it's not even like they won last week in one because of Zach Galifianakis.
63:10Absolutely. They won an easy blowout victory. And it.
63:13It masks. I can't remember his real name. Yeah.
63:16Because you'd love to correct me. Yeah, I would.
63:19And I wanted to say the right name, but I couldn't remember it either.
63:23It just masked how bad Daniel Jones was on up.
63:26I know it's a his accuracy was awful. Just missing.
63:29Guys, he's looked 56 percent. So you're going to have to try to run the ball with Jonathan Taylor as much as you can.
63:37That's your only path to winning this game. I thought Kyle was giving me the pronunciation of a fan.
63:43Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, man, is, but he just spelled Galifianakis.
63:46So, yeah, Josh Downs is a really scary start.
63:49I kind of like there's nobody to target in the receiving game.
63:52And then Tyler Warren is just wild. You'd be like, OK, well, Tyler Warren's going to blow up last week.
63:59I mean, 13, 21, 55 and 41 yards. But he did not.
64:03He did not blow this offense. Other than Johnny Taylor, this thing is kind of stinky.
64:08Does Tyler Warren feel like the oldest 24 year old on the planet?
64:12Yeah, he does. He's aging like Hawkinson did. Just rap dog ears.
64:15Because he's got too much dog. He's got too much dog.
64:19I love Tyler Warren. His hair is the opposite of Bowers, though.
64:23Oh, yeah. So watch this. Yeah, Bowers is aging as well.
64:26Some updates on the injury report. Lamar Jackson not seen participating again.
64:30But Zay Flowers is bad. That's good. Because if you missed that Zay Flowers didn't practice, this one was not hamstring.
64:36It was foot, a.k.a. new injury. Yeah. Stefan Diggs, hamstring working on the side field.
64:41Don't see McLaurin out there. Terry McLaurin may miss another week.
64:45Antonio Williams is a sneaky start. I think he actually is.
64:48I actually moved him into one of our, we got our Scotty Fish lineup mic.
64:53We got some bi-week situations. I put Antonio in there.
64:56I don't hate it. No sign of Brees Hall and A.D.
64:59Mitchell at practice for the Jets as well. Should be Braylon again.
65:03That was fantasy forecast presented by PrizePix. Make sure to follow our account at the FFBallers in the app to see our best picks every week.
65:11PrizePix, run your game tomorrow. We have, well, we'll recap this, the big breakout performance by Pickens, Mike.
65:17All right, look. Give me a stat line. Stat line for Pickens tonight.
65:21I'm going to give you, for George Pickens. Yeah, yeah.
65:24The other Pickens. Yeah, George Pickens. George Pickens. Well, I just was trying to think.
65:29Yeah, I know you were. Let's go, we're going to go five catches for one 17 and a score.
65:35Okay. And how many targets? Is that eight? Yeah, probably.
65:38Eight targets? I got seven targets, four for 84 and a touchdown.
65:42Oh, so you guys both have them in the end zone?
65:45Yeah. Do I have to do this now? Yeah.
65:48If you want. We'll go five targets. We'll go four catches, 74 yards, no touchdown.
65:53Okay. But I'm sorry. We'll see. This week, the Cowboys tonight should put on an absolute show.
65:58Yeah. They really, really should. Dak is playing great.
66:01Seagal AM, great. Well, we talked about it. We just need a little bit of George.
66:06They've been much more meticulous of an offense than a big play offense.
66:10So we need to get a big play from that team.
66:14Uh, you can roll your eyes into the back of your head when it ends up being not Pickens, but Turpin tonight or something.
66:21If it's anyone who will end up being Turd Ferguson.
66:24That could be. Yeah. Stealing the touchdowns. So we'll talk about Thursday night.
66:28We got more matchups tomorrow. Fantasy face off the wheel of shame.
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