0:00It's the Harris Football Podcast with your host, Christopher Harris.
0:03Welcome! Hey everybody, welcome in. My name is Chris and this is a show that is home.
0:09Thank you very, very much for listening today. I have returned.
0:12I am in Los Angeles. This certainly was a first time event in my life.
0:17Five shows this week, each one from a different city.
0:21Seattle, Portland, Vegas, Phoenix, LA, and boy are my arms tired.
0:24Travel, in this country anyway, has gotten worse. Airplane seats have gotten smaller, but it was all worth it because I had the best time.
0:32Four events I wouldn't trade for anything. Got to have so many fun conversations with so many of you.
0:38Thank you if you came to one of the readings.
0:42I signed a whole bunch of books. We had awesome Q&As about football and writing and fantasy and this very stupid show.
0:49It was so cool. And really, so many people talked about how much this ridiculous show means to them.
0:55I can't tell you how much that meant to me.
0:58I know I'm the yacht captain, but I truly believe that it is all of us who make this show what it is.
1:06The snark from you, the songs, the kindness that you display, the care, the fact that we have so many people out
1:13there who volunteer to buy books for listeners who can't afford it right now.
1:18It's all part of the formula that comes together to make a thing that means a lot to a lot of people.
1:25So many kind words. It was pretty overwhelming. I love that so many of you think this show stands apart from most
1:32NFL coverage that you hear and see. Because it is apart from most NFL coverage, literally, I am doing my best to avoid what other people say.
1:41I don't partake much of the echo chamber. I try not to repeat back the stuff that's safe that everybody else says.
1:48The one thing everybody learns and then just parrots back as though they've come up with some incredible insight.
1:54I don't really know what gets said and I don't look at ADP until mid-August.
1:59And so, for better or for worse, you're getting my unvarnished opinion on these things.
2:04And probably more important than that, I think it resonates with people that we're talking about football, but we're not really talking about football.
2:12I said it at each event. I really do love the NFL.
2:16I love to watch the games. It's a great sport.
2:19The players are amazing. I also love that it might be the only remaining town square that we have.
2:25The rest of the culture has scattered. There really aren't books and movies and TV shows and stuff that so many people all consume.
2:33But football is still popular enough to have that feeling that a lot of folks are experiencing what we're experiencing.
2:39Plus, fantasy is awesome. It gives us a chance to be in touch with your family, your old friends, your college friends,
2:47whatever, that we might not otherwise be in touch with.
2:50And then, also, football has this incredibly negative side.
2:53The billionaires who steal from their communities. The ticket packages that force you to buy meaningless exhibition games and spend insane money for concessions.
3:01The scandals that get covered up or hand-waved away.
3:04It is a frustrating sport to be a fan of.
3:07They don't always make it easy. And I certainly know there are no institutions that are perfect or even close to perfect.
3:14But it would be nice if the people who ran football just tried to be a little bit better and not shake
3:21us down and lie to us at every corner.
3:24And so, anyway, I mean, that's kind of what Pound Foolish is about.
3:28It was a reason I wrote the book to get at the dual feeling of loving a thing and also being really mad at it sometimes.
3:37And I hope that's at least in part what I communicated on tour this week.
3:42And I hope that's what I communicate on the show writ large as well.
3:46And speaking of scandals and not knowing whether the NFL will hand-wave them away, there was news on Josh Jacobs yesterday, Thursday.
3:54Charges were filed in his case. The original felony arrests were not charged.
3:58This is misdemeanors. Which, the fact that he was charged at all probably means to this point the woman in the case hasn't been bought off yet.
4:07But the case against Jacobs is proceeding at the moment.
4:10And some details came out because apparently there's a security video from Jacobs' house.
4:14It involved arguing over phones. And at one point we're told Jacobs throws the woman to the ground.
4:20Certainly does not sound like nothing. And it absolutely does not ease the worry from a purely fantasy football perspective that Jacobs could face a suspension.
4:29Though, we would have to admit, misdemeanor charges are better than felony charges, for whatever that's worth.
4:34The NFL has of course been incredibly consistent in the timing of its discipline.
4:39So until we see a suspension, we just won't know.
4:42But obviously you know I love the skill set.
4:45He's surely going at a discount in drafts if he doesn't get suspended.
4:49He's a late third rounder for me, given the uncertainty.
4:53And that's about where I think he goes in most drafts.
4:56Although, I don't think I've actually gotten him in any.
4:59And of course, if you would simply rather not partake, would rather not root for him this season, who wouldn't understand that?
5:07There was one more joint practice on Thursday, the last one of the year.
5:11It was Bears-Titans. There were very positive things said by the opposing beat reporters about Colston Loveland as a pretty unstoppable player in that drill-laden.
5:19It's not really a scrimmage, just kind of a bunch of situations.
5:23So the hype train of Loveland going high, potentially as high as the third round, probably isn't going to slow down anytime soon.
5:31And Caleb Williams also was reportedly sharp. We're not getting Luther Burden in these practices as he is in a race to
5:38get his groin injury ready in time for week one.
5:41I certainly accept that he might do it. I actually think probably Luther Burden plays week one.
5:47I just think his price does not account for the possibility that he rushes back and hurts it again.
5:53For the Titans, first off, Wandale Robinson apparently took a cheap shot going over the middle and went down hard and left
6:00the practice to be evaluated for a concussion. So we'll be keeping our eye on that one here over the next few days.
6:08And then, I know Pat Doherty does not agree with this because he came on the show this Monday and made Carnell
6:15Tate one of his busts for the season. I'm sort of on board with Tate.
6:20And if Loveland was universally praised on one side of this joint practice, Tate got heaps of praise on the other.
6:26He apparently finally exerted his will and looked like an alpha, albeit against a Bears defense that was already missing some players
6:34and had a couple of defensive backs actually in the practice go down with injury.
6:39Tate has seen his ADP drop almost outside the top 80 in recent drafts.
6:43And at that price, I actually think I'll take him.
6:46I don't think he's a bust at that price.
6:49You know it's pretty rare for me with rookies to be around almost two rounds earlier than ADP.
6:55I don't want to contradict Pat too strenuously because we're both, of course, absolutely guessing.
7:00And Pat even said on Monday that if it turns out Tate is just a different level of dude, he'll be wrong about it.
7:08And I think you know I said it on Monday.
7:11I have Matt Waldman's words ringing in my ears that Tate reminds him of Justin Jefferson.
7:16So, yeah, I'm saying like sixth round if Tate is there, I have been taking him.
7:22And I guess if you do too, then maybe we'll get to experience that together.
7:26Lastly, a couple of reminders. First, the Harris Football Almanac is still for sale.
7:31If you're frantically catching up and listening to a lot of shows to get ready for a draft, maybe this weekend or
7:38next weekend, you can still get the almanac at harrisfootball.com.
7:41And you and anybody else who has already ordered it will get an update one week from today.
7:47I have a lot of work to do now that I'm back and I will do it.
7:53You will have it. A fully marked up second edition with track changes turned on.
7:58You'll see the changes from the first to second editions.
8:01So, drafts over Labor Day weekend, a.k.a. the busiest draft weekend of the year, you will have fresh information.
8:07And also, I lied on Thursday's show about the Pound Foolish giveaways.
8:11I was reminded by the Cumulative Press executives of which, obviously, there are many.
8:16We have an entire giant board of directors. Oh, and I am touching my fictional earpiece and being told that I am the only employee of Cumulative Press.
8:25But I reminded myself that actually, orders next week, even after the launch, will also count toward bribery and toward all the lists.
8:32And I will keep bribing all the way through the end of next week.
8:37So, if you pre-order between now and Tuesday, wonderful.
8:40Thank you. And if you order next week, post-Tuesday, send me a screen cap and you still will be entered because of the way these lists work.
8:49So, anyway, I was goofy yesterday. And I just mentioned a moment ago, if you can't afford a copy, if budgets are
8:56tight, if you're saving up for something and don't have discretionary spending, but you'd like to be entered in the bribery drawings
9:03and you'd like to read the book, we have Yacht Possums who have volunteered to buy you a copy.
9:09So, please don't feel weird about it. It's absolutely cool.
9:12We are happy to help. Email me, heyharris at harrisfootball.com.
9:16Today's kickoff. Okay, on today's show, first up, I will finish off the super deep sleeper list that we began on Thursday's show with Jake Seeley.
9:24I've got five more super deeps for you coming up shortly.
9:28And then, cousin Josh will join. And it's the rare segment with Josh where we're asking him to turn that frown upside down.
9:35We're getting positive Josh on the show today as he reveals players he wants you to draft.
9:41These are his warp zone players. I think you'll have fun.
9:44And I thank you again so much for listening today.
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11:01And Chris Harris, he doesn't miss many of those.
11:04Well, you know, when it comes to the Super Deep Sleeper list, I do miss many of those because it's not a
11:12list where you're really supposed to hit that many.
11:14As we discussed on Thursday's show, if you haven't listened to that one, of course, go back and have a listen.
11:21We're not really asking you to draft any of the players we mentioned on the Super Deeps in a standard-sized league.
11:28And so, these are backups. These are fringe players.
11:31These are unproven players that Jake nominated yesterday and I nominated yesterday and today.
11:36So, hits aren't really supposed to happen. If you hit on 80% of the list, you have done the list incorrectly.
11:42These are deep bench players, dynasty deep bench players.
11:45And mostly the original intent of the list from long ago was just to put players on your radar.
11:52So, if anything funky happens on the depth charts around them in September, or if they themselves wind up buzzing a little
11:59more than we thought they would, we'll be readier than most to pounce.
12:03I do the Super Deeps in alphabetical order, so we will pick it up with my sixth name.
12:09And that's Kendry Miller of the Saints. We call him Chinese Democracy in honor of the Guns N' Roses album that was
12:16announced in like 1994 or something, but didn't come out until 2008.
12:20So, if you were a Guns N' Roses fan desperately clinging to a comeback that would just rock your world, you had
12:27to wait for a really long time. And Kendry Miller also long promised it has now been three years in the NFL
12:34without doing a lot other than being hurt. A really good college running back who fell to the third round of his
12:42NFL draft because of a knee issue and has really had nothing but pain as a pro.
12:47I went over the list in the almanac. And yes, Kendry Miller made the almanac in the first edition as the number 72 running back.
12:55That is not draftable in most leagues. He had knee surgery, a knee sprain, an ankle injury, a hamstring pull, another hamstring
13:02pull, a concussion, and then partway through last season, a torn ACL.
13:06I'm putting Kendry Miller on the Super Deeps because...
13:09So, you know, there's opportunity. Alvin Kamara is hurt.
13:12Probably isn't going to play a lot in September behind Travis Etienne.
13:16Also, though, because before the ACL tear last year, I thought Miller showed some power and enough wiggle to make me think
13:23he has the potential to be good if he could ever stay healthy.
13:28Kind of in the Nick Chubb, Josh Jacobs style phylum.
13:31Even, you know, clearly more injury prone and therefore maybe not as explosive as those guys in their primes.
13:37And it's pure guesswork and wish casting to say that we know what post-ACL Kendry Miller has.
13:43Plus, you know, the idea he's not going to get injured again seems fanciful.
13:47Even with Kamara out, I don't feel sure that Miller is Etienne's backup.
13:51It's probably a mix of him and Devin Neal and the Saints traded for Zamir White.
13:57I really have no idea how any of that would shake out with an Etienne injury and Kamara will eventually be back,
14:04which is why we are not drafting Kendry Miller.
14:07But of that group of, you know, not Etienne, not Kamara, Miller is the only one whose actual film has looked good to me.
14:14Next, this is not unheard of, a repeat Super Deep.
14:18I put Kanata Mumfield on this list last year when he was a seventh round rookie, whom Sean McVay praised during his first training camp.
14:26And Mumfield did make the team and actually played a little bit.
14:30Ran 174 routes, got 23 targets, had 10 catches, scored a red zone touchdown in the first quarter in the Jags game last year.
14:38That was a very nice catch. It's not a ton of film and he's not draftable in standard sized leagues.
14:44The Rams were obviously not 100% thrilled with their receiver depth chart because they just traded for the return of Tutu Atwell from the Dolphins yesterday.
14:53I gotta guess, maybe that's special teams, but who knows?
14:56And then Jordan Whittington often gets listed as the starter in three receiver sets over Mumfield on some websites.
15:02And you might be asking yourself, but I was told the Rams only use multiple tight end formations.
15:08Surely they don't even play with three wide outs on the field anymore.
15:12And I'm here to tell you, remember what I said off the top of the show about the echo chamber?
15:19When something gets as propagated around, like, did you know the Rams use three tight ends sometimes?
15:24Then suddenly it becomes the story that, well, they only use three tight ends, of course.
15:29They only use multiple tight ends. There's never three receivers on the field.
15:34Hello there. The Rams had 449 dropbacks with three wide outs or more on the field in 2025.
15:40They don't use multiple tight ends as their base formation.
15:43They just do it more than other teams. And I'm sure other teams are going to start to copy them because it helps the run game a lot.
15:52And I'm not trying to tell you that because the Rams use three wide more than the echo chamber is telling you,
15:59that means any of their third receivers is going to have a lot of fantasy value, especially because it tends to be
16:06a rotation of someone like Whittington and someone like Mumfield.
16:10But there is playing time available. Three wide is still the main formation in the NFL these days.
16:15Plus, on the Rams, you've got Puka Nakua, who takes a lot of punishment and two years ago missed significant time.
16:22Devontae Adams, who pulled a hamstring at the end of last year and by NFL standards is old.
16:28So who knows? Someone gets hurt. Someone might get a chance.
16:32On film last year, Mumfield looked okay. Kind of an in-cut merchant.
16:36A lot of work against zone. Not a big guy and not a real burner, but maybe a good set of hands.
16:43And someone McVay likes. And as a super deep, that's enough for me.
16:47Next up, I would have loved to have put Terrence Ferguson on the list.
16:52Another Ram. I'm very glad that Andy Behrens talked up Ferguson as a dynasty buy on Wednesday's Yacht Club show because I got to chime in.
17:00I got to rave about Terrence Ferguson's limited work last year because it was really good.
17:05But at this point, there's too much hype on Ferguson.
17:09He's not a deep enough name to be going on the super deep sleeper list.
17:14He is getting drafted in a lot of leagues right now because there's a lot of hype on him.
17:20So it's kind of caught up to where I was on him when I wrote the Almanac.
17:25So I can't do Ferguson for this list at tight end.
17:29So instead, this might be the deepest name on the list.
17:32I'm going to really reach and say Eli Raritan, the rookie tight end for the Patriots.
17:38A third round pick this past April out of Notre Dame.
17:41Not huge by tight end standards. Just 245 pounds.
17:44There's probably some bulking up to do in the next couple of years.
17:48Raritan isn't going to block anybody this season. But as a move tight end, I can tell you this.
17:55The Pats are extremely pleased with him at this point.
17:58So much so that even though Julian Hill, who they signed in free agency, he was slated to be the team's main blocking tight end.
18:06Even though he's out for the year with a knee injury, Patriots didn't really add to their tight ends because they think they've got something in Raritan.
18:15Hunter Henry, still with New England, just did a two-year extension.
18:18Very little of that money is guaranteed. Stop me if you've heard that before, Patriot fans.
18:24So it won't be a shock if Raritan is ready and if Henry starts to show his age at mid-34, 35, 36, if the Patriots move on.
18:32But anyway, Henry is there. He's a trusted Drake May weapon.
18:36So certainly no room for Raritan to be a fantasy option to begin the year.
18:41But a Henry injury might thrust the kid into the spotlight.
18:45And who knows? Maybe we'll start to believe in him a little bit once the season progresses anyway.
18:50Rookie tight ends, really rare. They make a big fantasy winning splash.
18:54But I'm at least keeping an eye on Eli Raritan.
18:58Next, alphabetically speaking, I've got Raheem Sanders of the Browns.
19:01Teammates call him Rocket. He's a 220-pound fast guy.
19:04On some websites, he's now listed at 230 pounds.
19:07But the question about him as a prospect, the reason he didn't go in the 2025 NFL draft, is that I think
19:14first of all, he was injured a lot in college.
19:17And also, he's one of those, you know, athletes who might not be an actual running back, an actual football player.
19:24He is thick. He is very big. And he's fast.
19:27North-south fast. But just had a reputation for being pretty stiff and not accelerating very well out of a cut.
19:34Good top-end speed, but maybe not great in traffic.
19:37What's weird to me, funny to me about this, is that the people who, like deep down, we know why people boost Ulmerian Hampton.
19:45Why they boost Bajul Tootin. You know, they'll talk to you about the, oh, Mike McDaniel.
19:50They'll talk to you about, oh, this is such a good situation.
19:54I really like, you know, in the end, it's because they killed their underwear Olympics.
19:59They're big and fast. And the same people just simply don't give Raheem Sanders a second look.
20:04I think he exists in that tradition. And I thought in a stinky Browns offense last year, after Quinshawn Judkins got hurt,
20:11and the Browns were shuffling through various backfield options, they gave Sanders a little bit of work in December.
20:17He had really good power and didn't try and bounce anything.
20:21And made a couple of people miss between the tackles and looked like an absolute moose to tackle.
20:27I even remember at the time on a few of his runs, probably saying on the show that I wanted to remember the name.
20:35The Browns offense probably going to be stinky again.
20:38We don't know that for sure, obviously. And Judkins is no longer injured.
20:42And I'm drafting Judkins a ton. Next week, I'm going to do, or maybe two weeks, I'm going to do that thing
20:49where I say, you know, the players I drafted most.
20:52I'm sure Judkins is going to get mentioned because it seems like I'm getting him a bunch.
20:58So, you know, Dylan Sampson's the third down back.
21:01He's going to play a lot. There's no room for anybody else right now.
21:05But if we were to get another Judkins injury, I would be interested to see if Raheem Sanders got the nod on early downs.
21:13And then I'd be interested to see how he would do.
21:17And then lastly, alphabetically, the one player Jake and I overlapped on, so you heard the name on Thursday's show, it is Nicholas Singleton.
21:25We had a really good conversation with Matt Waldman a couple of Mondays ago about Singleton.
21:30And I felt like he kind of straightened me out a little bit.
21:34And I changed my tune some on Singleton based on that conversation.
21:38Whereas previously, I had just understood, okay, so he was supposed to be the next Saquon when he got to Penn State.
21:45And then by the end of his career, wasn't really even a starter.
21:49So I kind of was like, all right, well, that's the kind of dude that I don't want any part of.
21:56And Matt explained some of that and gave me a new perspective on Singleton.
22:01And I'm kind of comparing these two bigger backs, Singleton and Jonah Coleman of the Broncos, and remembering that Matt was like,
22:08yeah, I don't really understand the hype on Jonah Coleman.
22:11I think he kind of stinks. And Coleman is absolutely climbing draft boards every day, I guess, because Sean Payton, who simply
22:18cannot be trusted in what he says about his players, much like this guy couldn't be trusted.
22:24Sean Payton is the new Petey Sunshine. Coleman is climbing because Payton has said many nice things about him.
22:30I'm just staying away from that one. And of course, I'm also staying away from Nicholas Singleton in standard size leagues because
22:37Tony Pollard is supposedly having a nice training camp.
22:40He actually got good write-ups for his performance in the joint practice against the Bears yesterday.
22:46Tajay Spears is still there. But Singleton also has had a good camp as a rookie and seems pretty locked in as Pollard's direct backup.
22:54So there's no handcuff here, but I'm just interested to see how it goes.
22:58Whereas as a college recruit, Singleton was supposed to be Saquon, supposed to be this all-world athlete.
23:04Waldman emphasized to us that Singleton is more of a good patient runner, has some moves, some physicality, maybe a little more
23:11explosiveness than he got to show in college. So again, as with all the guys on the super deep list, we'll keep
23:18an eye and see how the early season goes.
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24:23Drinkag1.com slash Harris. Today's guest. Things turned sour, they busted me and said no chance.
24:28So I threw my hands up. Time to bottom my soapbox.
24:32Don't mess with Narrowman. Now I'm tweeting like, girl, you know I want your suds.
24:36Your beer was handmade for somebody like me. Coming down, what if I leave?
24:41Disguise myself, I'm incognito. Josh, sorry, AIDS too much.
24:44We met on Tinder, so please give us four each.
24:47Come and now give us four each. Come, come and now give us four each.
24:52We met on Tinder. Give us four each. It is the story.
24:56What's the name of the beer? What was the name of the beer you're trying to get?
25:02Headdy Topper, man. Right from Vermont. The Headdy Topper story, a classic.
25:05I've mentioned that I'm back in Los Angeles, but I have to say, I said this to you before we hit the
25:13button as well, that you were certainly a topic of much conversation every single city I went to.
25:18There were many Cousin Josh stories and people talking about how much you make them laugh and how Friday is the one.
25:26If anybody's going to miss shows, they never miss Friday shows because they got to hear you.
25:31You know, Chris, it really feels good to be loved by so many people I don't know.
25:37I didn't get that growing up from parents. So as long as acquaintances are huge fans of mine and I can make
25:44them laugh, I'm doing my job, right? You are.
25:47And you know that Craig and Suzette, our cousins, really our parents' cousins, were there along with my sister at the...
25:54And we have no danger because none of them are going to listen to this, that's for sure.
26:00And when... Suzette doesn't know anything about any of this.
26:03And when we started talking about Aunt Nora on the, whatever that was, Wednesday night version of the reading, she texted your mom.
26:10She said, did you know that people who listen to Chris's show talk about you?
26:15And Nora apparently was like, I had no idea.
26:18Unbelievable. My mom somehow is involved in a podcast.
26:21Yeah, it's crazy. But she certainly used to know.
26:24You used to tell her. You used to talk to her about it.
26:28I remember in the early days, but she forgot.
26:31But anyway, Aunt Nora, we love you. All right, well, it is time for Warp Zone.
26:36And that is very exciting because it's a rare moment for you to be insanely positive.
26:42How does it feel to take off the cloak and the vampire fangs and to just come out in the sunlight?
26:49Oh, I don't know, Chris. It's pretty bad, huh?
26:51It's strange. I'm used to just poo-pooing on a lot of things.
26:55It's weird to throw the positive light on stuff.
26:58I was thinking about that. I'm like, today's show is one of the few opportunities I get to be positive about people.
27:05It just doesn't really happen. I get some superlatives in the baggy awards, but it's mostly negativity.
27:11It's fine. Prince of Darkness. You are. It is.
27:14So the theory behind the Warp Zone list is basically, it's a Mario Brothers reference, I believe.
27:19Oh, 100%. Can I tell you a great story?
27:22You're very well known, Chris, amongst my friends for this episode.
27:26The original Warp Zone episode, I made a Super Mario Brothers reference.
27:30Do you remember what you replied when I talked about taking Warp Zone?
27:34I probably thought it was Star Wars or something.
27:37You said, I'm not as familiar with that. I was probably busy dating.
27:41And my friends literally, whenever I go, oh, it's the Warp Zone show, they go, oh, yeah, Chris must be too busy
27:49dating to know anything about Super Mario Brothers. I was a younger man then.
27:53Yeah. For a decade, my friends have been making that joke now.
27:57That is very, very funny. It was a good line by me.
28:01Oh, a great line. I was younger and meaner.
28:04But I did remember what Warp Zone was now, so at least that stuck with me.
28:09Basically, the idea here is Josh is attempting to pick, this is, again, another list of integrity.
28:15This is five players only, so you can't just say, hey, I like 100 guys.
28:19You have to say five players only. And these are players who are going to perform at least a couple rounds better than where you can take them.
28:29That's correct, right? Yep. At least two rounds better.
28:32So, again, if you're going to talk about a guy in round six, he better be at least around four.
28:38Talon, five to three, and so on. So, it's almost like my version of kind of planting a flag, but you do that portion way better.
28:47This is not as fun. It's just different. And plus, I have a trademark now.
28:51So, every time anybody says planting their flag, they owe me $5.
28:55That's the new law that I just passed. All right.
28:59So, let's do it. We're going to count down.
29:02It's a pointless countdown. It does not matter at all, but it matters so very much.
29:07Who is your number five warp zone player for 2026?
29:10Yeah, I probably should have put this person four, but I thought it was funny to discuss them because there's some decent jokes in this.
29:18I went with Jared Goff. You had one person as, I think, a quarterback in your flag player, Stafford.
29:24This is my version, I think, of that. You're venturing away from the mic a little bit.
29:30Sorry. Go ahead. All right. No, I was going to say, some people, Chris, are into foot fetishes and others into latex.
29:37For me, I'm into statue quarterbacks. I know you got a thing for them, too.
29:42You look at Goff the last three years, QB7, QB6, QB8.
29:46He's thrown for at least 30 touchdowns, 4,500 yards in each of the last three years.
29:51I'll quote the Almanac because you said it there.
29:54They're the only quarterback the last four years to finish top 10 in each one of those seasons.
30:00Again, the Ron Papil of quarterbacks. You said it.
30:03You forget it, Chris. That's it. Put him in and you just roll.
30:07What I also like really quickly about Goff is they have a great schedule from a weather perspective.
30:13He plays in a dome. I don't believe they have a cold weather game until week 17 in Chicago.
30:19I mention that because there's been times throughout the last few years he doesn't play great on the road.
30:25That was always a thing. No, last year he was good.
30:29Last year he was consistent. But you also get the removal of David Montgomery, a little bit more pass happy.
30:35In the end, Chris, I don't really care if it's Morton, if it's, you know, they bring in Drew Petzinger, Dan Campbell, the guy prints passing yards.
30:44On DK, he's got the highest projected over under at 4,099.
30:48He's the co-favorite to lead the NFL. I find it really interesting that someone like Dak, who's got a similar profile, right?
30:55In terms of that offense goes 40 picks ahead of Goff.
30:58I think once again, 40 picks. It's crazy. Around 10 versus around like six, seven player.
31:04I think give me the three to four rounds.
31:06I'll wait on quarterback. If I'm waiting, he's my guy.
31:10I have him QB 12 on my list. And I just think he's a really good person to get later who's going
31:17to return three to four rounds easily. So you can give me Jared Goff as my first one.
31:23All right. He's my QB 12 as well. And I have wound up with him in some leagues where I've waited and
31:30Stafford has gone before I could take him. So definitely have no problem with it.
31:35I probably have Dak maybe around ahead of him, but not significantly.
31:39So I definitely see where you're coming from. And essentially, that's just another recommendation of a quarterback to wait on.
31:45You know, like we just, you and I, when we draft, rarely, rarely wind up with the top guys because they just cost too much.
31:53Who's your number four? Warp Zone. I was really torn in this one, but I wanted to get a little bit of
32:01a deeper name since we just typically talk about, you know, bigger name players on mine.
32:06I looked to acquire this person two weeks ago before a deal went down in real life.
32:11I have Romeo Dubs as my player on this one, Chris.
32:15And I went back and forth between Coker and Dubs and like people are into like Trey Tucker, not as much for
32:22me, but he's going as wide receiver 52 round 11.
32:25And like, I have a Morris kind of look, I don't, I know I don't need to pick them there, but I
32:33have them on mine as wide receiver 40. I just think that he's someone right now who gets a massive upgrade going
32:40from Green Bay, where he was part of a five headed monster there with all of those players to the runner up for MVP in New England.
32:49He gets the suit up against AJ Brown or with AJ Brown.
32:52Then you get boot a deal to Houston. So now you're in a place where it's like, I feel like the targets
33:00and what we think in terms of like a number one, number two guy, it's going to be a little bit more centralized.
33:07I know you've always been a fan of Romeo Dubs.
33:10And that was before he got a gigantic helmet on his head, which got me into him.
33:16But like, but you've always talked about him when we were like, honestly, Josh, I think he might be the most talented person on this Packers offense.
33:25And I agree with what you wrote in the Almanac.
33:28Like, you know, I'm not sure if he gets used exactly like Diggs, but I like the way that May operates in the middle of the field.
33:37The guy just gets open. He finds ways to get open.
33:40He was a good red zone target for the Packers.
33:44I think he was sixth in team percentage in the NFL of red zone targets, like really impressive stuff within the 10 yard line.
33:52I just think that this is someone, Chris, who, who last year was wide receiver 34.
33:57He gets an upgrade. He's coming off a 55 catch season for 700 change.
34:01Like, why can't that bump up to like what you said?
34:0570 catches, eight, 900 yards, six, seven TDs. There's an upgrade across the board.
34:09I think he's going to get more routes there.
34:12And I just think it's a really, really good value to be taking the double digit rounds.
34:18I think it's going to be also a massive player.
34:21If anything were to happen to AJ Brown, because there's that contingency there too, where you have a wide receiver two on a high octane offense.
34:30And if Brown were to miss some games with this knee stuff, like he's going to be an every week player for people.
34:37So you can give me a Romeo dubs as my number four.
34:41So a couple interesting things. The last little point there is a great point because Dobbs can play outside.
34:47So he can play the X if he needs to.
34:51He's done it in Green Bay. So if there's no AJ Brown, agreed.
34:55As far as whether he can take over the digs role, I'm a little skeptical now because for the millionth season in
35:02a row, we're going in with Pop Douglas as the presumptive slot starter.
35:06I'm just like, why are we doing this again?
35:09It just doesn't work. But the digs stuff, really the magic mostly happened out of the slot.
35:15And they'll mix it up. It's not like they're always going to...
35:19I think when Douglas is on the field, he's mostly going to be in the slot, but he won't be on the field.
35:26So Dobbs will get some in the slot as well.
35:29Let me ask you rounds. So we know what the ADP on Dobbs is.
35:34What round would you be like, okay, since I think he's going to be a little better than where people taking him,
35:41you're going to be able to look at... Where should I take him that's late enough to feel like it's good value,
35:48but early enough to feel like I'll get him?
35:51What round? You know, I look at someone like Josh Downs who goes at pick 100, and I don't think that there's
35:58a massive difference between those two players. No. No.
36:01Well, they're very different skill sets, but in terms of the likelihood of them bursting versus busting and all that stuff feels kind of similar, yeah.
36:10Yeah, and that's kind of what I'm thinking is like, I think when you see downs go off, that should kind of
36:17be your signal of like, all right, that's 36 picks before that.
36:21So if I want Dobbs, I should probably take him in the next 12 or so.
36:26I mean, he's going, what is that? Nine? I mean, I would probably take him in 10.
36:32He's going in 12 or 13. 10th round. And for Goff, just I'll put it in the show notes.
36:38I should have asked that when you did Goff.
36:41What round are you... I mean, it's the weight.
36:44It's the weight, you know, be the last person in your lead to get a quarterback.
36:49But like, what's the point where you go, I want to make sure I get Goff so that the person who took,
36:56you know, is going to take a second quarterback doesn't steal him.
37:00You know, it's so difficult. And I did it in our mock draft on YouTube.
37:05I just think that when you start to see like Lawrence and Caleb and that group go, you kind of got to
37:12give yourself a round to make that choice. It's so tough to say ninth round because yeah, if no one else is
37:19picking quarterbacks and you still see Lawrence is there and Dak is there and all of those players, you know, are going
37:26to go before Goff, you can consistently wait. But when you see those three guys go off, I think you got to
37:34give yourself 24 picks or so and then make that choice to take Goff.
37:38Yeah, that's the right neighborhood. Yeah, I think that's the right neighborhood.
37:42And I got to be honest, as much as I do have Goff on some teams this year or, you know, they're not teams I'm necessarily playing out.
37:51I haven't done the drafts of the teams I'm playing out necessarily, but I took him in La Liga in the auction.
37:58Yeah, you did. And you've made in that. Yeah, I already have Drake May, but you need another quarterback in that league.
38:06That's for sure. It's not super flex, but you need another quarterback.
38:09But my point is that I've often waited in various expert leagues that I've been doing and Goff has wound up on teams.
38:17Absolutely. For sure. Who's number three on this warp zone list?
38:21I feel like I'm going to get called a loser, Chris, for doing this pick.
38:25And I promise you the number one and the number two are definitely real guys.
38:30Okay. I let myself do this and I took a tight end.
38:34I took Juwan Johnson. This is my version of your Brenton Strange flag player.
38:39So, yeah. I mean, can I just, I'll just say like, I don't feel that different from, I have Brenton Strange eight and Juwan Johnson nine.
38:47So you're not going to get a big argument out of me.
38:51This is once again, an argument to wait at tight end.
38:55Bingo. It's the same thing I'm going to tell you about the quarterbacks and he's going 135.
39:00He's going 40 picks after Travis Kelsey and Dalton Kincaid.
39:04And I just don't really see the difference there.
39:07I will say it again. I will take a tight end if the value makes sense.
39:12I never go in thinking I'm going to do it.
39:15I did it last year with McBride in the middle of the fourth when I thought it got stupid.
39:21If the value is there, do it. But primarily I'm going to wait and I'm going to pick one or two of those guys.
39:29For you, it's Strange or Juwan Johnson. It could be Goddard for other people or likely.
39:34For me, it's Juwan Johnson. I just think he fits the bill as someone that you can take at the end of the drafts.
39:42I'll even give a bump, Chris, in 0.5 PPR if you're in a league with your kids and you're playing PPR.
39:49Chris, the guy went out last year, 77 catches, 889 yards.
39:53And it's like, nobody talks about it. It's bizarre to me to be fifth in receptions and third in yards and no one cares.
40:00And I think you said it really well, again, in the Almanac, which is it's because a guy scored three TDs.
40:07And if the guy scored six touchdowns and we'd be like, wow, he's number five.
40:12And we'd be talking about him like, man, like, you know, he was a late bloomer.
40:17And now he's part of the Saints offense that we love.
40:21And it's also, it's like Tyson goes down and we now bump up Olave and we make, ah, he's a 2-3 turn pick at like top 24, 25.
40:30But no one goes ahead and says, well, isn't some of that volume still going to kind of stay with Juwan Johnson,
40:37with Tyson probably shelved till maybe after that France game?
40:40I just find it bizarre that we have everything we want from a tight end.
40:45We just saw him finish as a tight end one.
40:49The competition really isn't there. He's part of a Kellen Moore offense that's been relatively tight end friendly between what he did
40:56last year and what we saw Goddard do in the past.
40:59It's like, it checks off every box. And I figured like, you know, the dudes from Williamsburg would be all over this,
41:07but I'm the only Brooklyn guy, Chris, talking about Juwan Johnson.
41:10So like, I think you're getting three to four rounds at this, a tight end.
41:15He basically is a wide receiver. I mean, he is.
41:18Like you said, he's a big slot. Yeah, he's 230 pounds.
41:22How many tight ends? You know, 230 pounds. You know, they're all, the light ones are 250.
41:27Um, and, and I also mentioned that he actually, you know who he, one of his many quarterbacks were in college.
41:34It's Tyler Shuck, right? He played at Oregon with Tyler Shuck for a little while.
41:39So they're, they, they at least know each other.
41:42So it's, it's, it seems to me like a very good call.
41:46I'm with you. I've, I mean, what's your reaction when you get Juwan Johnson in like the 12th round?
41:52I think you get them later, but I'm completely fine.
41:55I go, great. Sounds good. Fire them up week one versus the lions works for me.
42:01I think you even accelerated in again, PPR. If you're playing with your kids or, you know, some, uh, underage people, but yeah, I'm all about it.
42:10I'm completely fine. He's part of my draft plan.
42:12If I can't get one of the tight ends that I kind of have in that upper tier one.
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43:29Josh, because it went so well in 2025. Josh, in, uh, in Phoenix, that reading, I gave a little one liner at your expense.
43:37I said, you may have heard in the podcast that, uh, not that many people showed up in Vegas, the Vegas event.
43:44It was, it was the, by far the least attended of the, I had a great time and the people I met
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43:55And I decided that it was probably because they were all mad at your picks.
44:00They boycotted the reading. Um, so let's do, uh, a pick that is not game specific.
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44:08So how about a draft Kings? I don't know.
44:11I kind of left it open to you, a player prop that you like, or a team prop that you like.
44:18Yeah. I went back to the well, Chris on a La Liga player that I've owned for a very long time.
44:25I can't get enough of this guy. He recently switched from the dolphins, the Broncos, and I'm going to go with the over under yards on Jalen Waddle.
44:34It's nine 24. I'm going to take over. Um, I don't want to give too much away, but I really like him
44:41being part of that offense that threw the ball the most last year.
44:45I think when it first came out and I bet it already, it might've even been eight 99 and it's gone up to nine 24.
44:54I still like it. 19 players, thousand yards. I believe the status last year.
44:58I think he's going to be one of the players who exceeds a thousand this year in that role.
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45:16And I still think that this guy, um, people underrate.
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45:23So it's a tough one. It's a thousand yards.
45:26It's just been hard for anybody to get to, you know, maybe it was just last year is a weird year, but
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46:49Ferrys by state. Limited time offer. Okay, so we have a couple more Warp Zone guys to get to.
46:55I like the list so far. Who are you putting in number two?
46:59You know, we argued about a flag player last week.
47:03We disagreed on Bucky Irving. I actually have a flag player on this list.
47:07Sorry, big controversy, by the way, in the public, in the streets.
47:11A lot of people not knowing what to do with Bucky Irving because mommy and daddy were fighting.
47:17And I know it's going to happen week one.
47:20I'm getting the text with you from that Bengals 51 and a half like, Hey man, did you like Bucky?
47:27So I know that's coming. But we'll see how the season ends.
47:30We are going to be aligned on this one.
47:33I really tried not to pick flag players. And again, I realize you had Jameson Williams as well.
47:39But we are in lockstep. I have him 17 at wide receiver.
47:43I'm kind of a bit baffled that he's a fifth rounder going as wide receiver 26 on Fantasy Pros real time.
47:50Yeah, it's a little bit crazy to me, Chris, because again, you know, I try to put on my flannel with the
47:57cutoff sleeves and I feel like most people look at this and it's like 25 year old checks the box.
48:04Past friendly ops checks the box. Like completely healthy.
48:07He finishes his wide receiver nine last year. And typically people always look, it's like, well, how did he end the year?
48:14Amazing, right? We saw that. It's, it's nuts to me that once Dan Campbell took over that play calling and he wasn't
48:21just kind of a deep thread and they used them all over the field.
48:26Like this is typically the catnip that people go, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, make them wide wrist.
48:31And they do. And they go, you think you could do it in round five?
48:36How about round three? And yeah, it's seriously. And again, you know, people are going to point to the Laporta splits because
48:43a lot of this also coincided with him being injured and when he took off.
48:48But I looked at it, Chris, again, the last two years, he's put up a thousand yards.
48:54He's put up seven TDs. It's funny. I looked by hand because I said 19 guys.
48:59How many people in the NFL have done a thousand yards and seven TDs two straight years?
49:05And there's five players. It's ASB's teammate. It's, it's Jamo.
49:08It's Chase. It's Cortland Sutton and AJ Brown. And that's the list.
49:12So like you have a young guy in an offensive we know is not changing.
49:17He did this on 102 targets last year. So it's not like if Laporta comes here, this guy becomes a 75 like target guy.
49:25He's going to garner a hundred targets. I just don't see why he's not being kind of drafted in that same place
49:32as someone like Emeka Ibuka who is coming off that monster first half.
49:36But Taldorf is already dinged up in camp. Yet we're picking him 16 picks earlier or Higgins 28 picks.
49:42Like I look at some of these offenses and it's like, it feels like it checks every single box yet.
49:49People haven't caught up to the Jamison Williams stuff.
49:52I know he doesn't. And you talked about, I think of the podcast have the greatest hands, but like if they're going
49:59to use them all over the field, you don't have to worry about him playing, you know, alongside ASB.
50:05He's done it two straight years and he was a wide receiver one last year.
50:10What really has changed besides Drew Petsing coming into this offense and Sam Laporta, I guess, being a little bit more healthy?
50:17You're getting further away from the mic. You hear me now?
50:21I can. I could hear you, but you know, you were getting a little softer.
50:26Yes. And I think it bears just like a second, because obviously I've given the speech when I did the flag thing on Jamison Williams as well.
50:34And I do seem to be getting him in a lot of drafts.
50:39And I think it's worth just taking a second.
50:42And I know you're, you know, we have the running joke about what hipsters do.
50:46Also, we have the running joke about what hipsters wear.
50:50I think you're pretty off on what hipsters wear anymore.
50:53You're stuck in Patrick Swayze hipster times or something.
50:56But it is absolutely worth talking about. I loved how you said it.
51:00This should be catnip. This is the guy that people decide is better than we think he is.
51:06And then you and I go, well, come on.
51:09I mean, you know, Laporta wasn't there. Are you sure you want to make him wide receiver eight?
51:15You know, like they made Pickens wide receiver eight or whatever he is, you know?
51:20And why are you taking the cheese on Pickens but not taking the cheese on Jamison Williams?
51:25It's almost exactly the same argument. It's like, well, something changed and one of the guys got hurt and suddenly he got more emphasized and showed out better.
51:34And so let's get real excited. And you're so right that sometimes it's just weird that the market, there is no one
51:42market, but like, you know, in the end, what it comes down to is all the experts who are telling people what
51:49to do and all the default ranks that are made by the experts who are telling people what to do.
51:55They've all just decided there was something that was a mirage to some extent with Jamison Williams and not a mirage with someone like George Pickens.
52:04And I don't, you laid out exactly correctly what could go wrong with Jamison Williams.
52:09Laporta was not there. And if he's back and healthy and okay, if it turns out that we go back to Jamison
52:16Williams situational deep threat, you and I biffed it.
52:19Okay. It's not Dan Campbell anymore. It's somebody else.
52:22And so if they ignore the second half of last year and ignore that Williams did a lot of different things and
52:29just send them to back to running the rail on the sideline, you and I biffed it.
52:34We screwed it up. We got it wrong. But like, I'm going to ask you a question eventually.
52:40Sorry. I'm just agreeing with you so strongly. Like if we wanted to, if you want, you and I wanted to sit
52:47here and pick on George Pickens, not for brain reasons, but for football reasons.
52:52Couldn't we do a lot of the same kind of stuff?
52:56Couldn't we say, well, Lamb got hurt really on and was never right.
53:00And Pickens himself tailed off and kind of lost concentration.
53:03And like, couldn't you make the, couldn't it be that Jamison Williams is the really high one and Pickens is the lower one?
53:11Like, I just don't get why that choice was made.
53:14It's interesting to me. And again, I look at these ADPs and I find that again, Pickens, Higgins, eight, nine spots apart.
53:21And then there's a 25 pick break and it's Jamison Williams there.
53:25And it feels like he, he belongs in there.
53:28Not that high, maybe a little bit lower, eight, nine picks, but not 25 picks.
53:33And I do think this though, like you talk about biffing it like, all right.
53:38So you pick him in the fifth round and he doesn't do what we think he's going to do.
53:44He's still going to return the fifth round value.
53:47Like, I feel like the floor of that pick is like, if everything goes wrong, you probably get what you pick, you
53:54know, where you're picking him now, which is somewhere in the twenties.
53:58But I think you can go ahead and reach for him in a round and probably get even another round on top of that.
54:06Pick him in the fourth and he returns third round value easy.
54:10Yeah. I mean, it's worth saying, you know, the ride stinks.
54:13If it's Jamison Williams from his first couple of years, it, the ride does stink.
54:18And so like, I get, I get it. I don't know.
54:22We're both just going to be in on it.
54:25That's the bottom line. We're both going to be in on Jamison Williams.
54:29Uh, and we have reached the point of your number one warp zone player.
54:33Don't even say it. I know it's Kyron Williams.
54:36I know it's not Kyron Williams. Who is it though?
54:40It's funny. It's a guy I used to not like, and I've come around.
54:44And again, if you want to go and check out the YouTube page, I talked about him when I took him in the fifth round.
54:52Do you remember who I took it in pick four of the fifth round, which was pick 52.
54:58Josh, I'm going to admit that I don't. That's a running back.
55:02That's completely fine. I took David Montgomery there, Chris.
55:05Okay. Do you remember that? I do. I remember saying during the mock draft that you used to not like David Montgomery.
55:12Yeah. Um, look, I think that running backs have been elevated really high over the last year, year and a half for obvious reasons.
55:20Um, we, you and I probably didn't really change that, but I think ADP has pumped them up for some reason.
55:27He has not moved up. He's, I think you're typical as they'd say the dead zone running back.
55:33He's kind of in that fifth round place. And you go, okay.
55:37Um, it's interesting to me cause I look at guys like Travis, I guess we say Travis H.
55:43And now it was going like end of three who just changed teams.
55:47Montgomery to me just turned 29 years old. Like he still profiles and has the ability to be a three down back.
55:54Like there's been seasons he's caught, you know, 50 balls.
55:57He caught 60 the last two years. And even in a minimal role in a split back last year where he kind
56:04of took the bat seat to Gibbs, like he still was a productive running back.
56:09Not like he was when he was getting the lion's share, uh, pun intended, I guess.
56:15Um, but I don't see much of a decline, Chris, and you're looking at a team and you and I were all over this two years ago.
56:23We're obviously bigger fans of Mixon than we were of Montgomery.
56:27I just feel like everyone has a running mate.
56:30The Woody Marks thing means nothing to me. I think 65% of those touches on a team that has a quarterback that
56:37I've said for years now, isn't anything special is going to run the ball and play defense.
56:43And he's a power back. Who's going to get those goal line carries and has been one of the better players.
56:49It gives me so much of that Jimmy Connors vibe, Chris, that I used to poop on when he left Pittsburgh.
56:56And I'm like, he's going Arizona. And you're like, he's just got a nose for the end zone.
57:02And he comes out, he goes 17 touchdowns. I don't know if you remember that year.
57:07It was absurd. And then after that, it's like, I want to hate the guy, but you go, cool.
57:14Give me 900 yards and 200 receiving and double digit touchdowns.
57:17And I just think that in a year where there's that super high class of running backs and then there's a drop
57:24off, he doesn't seem like he should be going two and a half rounds after a Travis H and or two rounds
57:32after a Swift or 15, 16 picks. And I think he belongs in that like end of three, early four.
57:38I like him. I still think he's got some tread left.
57:42He's 29. This is not someone who's been used to death where he's been getting 300 touches the last few years.
57:48So I'm in on it. I know that he's kind of one of these people you're either very in or you have him as a bust.
57:57You're probably somewhere in between. I've looked at your ranks.
58:00I am in the middle. You're not a complete fade.
58:03No, no. Although I would say I don't think I've taken him at all and I take Woody Marks a lot.
58:10I just get Woody Marks very late. But Woody Marks would not be my reason because you said it right.
58:17It's fine. Great. I grant you. It's a 65% role because that's what everybody does in the NFL.
58:23There is absolutely a path to Dave Montgomery producing above ADP fantasy season without an 80% role.
58:28I know that most people out there, they have their spreadsheets and they're like, boy, I want to put Dave Montgomery higher.
58:35So I better give him more work. And I don't think that's the basis on which to make ranks.
58:42And I definitely don't think it's the basis on which should be drafting Dave Montgomery because I don't think it's an 80%
58:49role, but it doesn't need to be. He needs the short touchdowns.
58:53And in my mind going into the year, we could be surprised, but there's zero question that on the goal line, it'll be mostly David Montgomery.
59:01He's a, I would argue maybe the only thing he does really well is run, you know, power trap in between the tackles.
59:09I don't think he's much of a mover otherwise.
59:12And I think the Lions clearly discovered that and got away from him.
59:16And then, you know, I think that trade happened because he asked out, he wanted to play.
59:21And I also think there's no question he's going to play more than he would have played if Jameer Gibbs was around.
59:29So I do, I do have him in the fifth round myself.
59:32So I guess I'm not warping him, but I also would in no way, shape or form poo-poo the pick or say he's a bust.
59:41I'll tell you the one thing that does concern me is that offensive line looked really bad last year.
59:47And again, as I say, I'm no offensive line expert.
59:50So, but everything you look at has them ranked as like a bottom offensive line.
59:55And again, this stuff is so, I don't know.
59:58I try to trust the people who are amazing at the offensive line rankings.
60:03And I watched my eyes last year in the playoffs and it was brutal.
60:07But again, to me, it's just about the touchdowns.
60:10Chris, if he's going to go ahead and get double digit touchdowns, as long as he's not getting dinged up, I think
60:17he's going to return value easily as a round five player where he's going right now.
60:22All right. Well, we got, if, if you Josh heard of somebody who did a draft and they did Jamison Williams in
60:30the fourth, David Montgomery in the fifth, and then not needing to be starters, Jared golf, well, Jared golf, be starter in the ninth.
60:37Romeo Dobbs is a bench player in the 10th.
60:40Juwan Johnson as your starting time in the 12th.
60:43You would think that was really great value five times.
60:47A hundred percent. I'd love to see their one, two, three, center six, but like, yeah, right.
60:52I think you're getting really good value in each of those rounds with those picks.
60:57All right. Well, we've got them in the show notes and the zone has been warped.
61:02And pardon me. I have a date. No, I actually don't.
61:06I got to go to sleep. Well done, my friend.
61:09Thank you for doing it. If you want to follow Josh, you can do it on Instagram.
61:15He's there as detective fish. My condolences to Jalen Warren for learning that he's going to be going way under 925 yards after this segment.
61:23Not Jalen Warren, Jalen Waddle. Waddle. Would have been a funny, funny joke if I could have said it right.
61:29Jalen Waddle definitely going over 925, according to Josh.
61:32Well done, my friend. Thanks for doing it. We'll talk to you next week.
61:37You know what's coming next week, right? Oh yeah.
61:40We got the baggies, dude. The baggies. Baggies will be aboard.
61:43Let's do it. Thanks, buddy. Always a pleasure. And thank you so much for listening.
61:48We've got a drawing here momentarily, but let's also thank the sponsors.
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62:28I appreciate it so much, and it is time to do the final pound-foolish bribery drawing of this week with one more week to follow, of course.
62:37The grand prize is coming next Friday. That'll be someone who joins the show the week after.
62:42We'll figure out a time, and we can talk on this very podcast, but still a good prize today.
62:49This is one of those cameo-style giveaways where I'll record something for one of your fantasy leagues, or you can talk trash
62:56via me to a friend of yours. Anything you want.
62:59Basically, I don't actually have cameo, but you know the idea where just tell me what to say.
63:05And I will say it, the winner of this drawing, the random number generator has picked out Alex McLennan.
63:11I believe Alex is one of our Australian listeners, which is awesome.
63:15Thank you for all our Aussies who listen to the show.
63:19Alex, I'm going to email you. You probably already have seen an email from me, and you'll tell me what to do.
63:26You'll load me up, and I'll be happy to record a video for you.
63:30And that is it. That is going to do it.
63:34What a week. I'm sick. I'm tired, but I don't have any time to rest because I got to go fix that
63:41almanac, and that is like a week-long job. I got to make a second edition.
63:46I'm going to get started on that today. We also have a mock draft coming up that we'll post either this afternoon or maybe on Saturday.
63:54And that one's going to be Adam Ager from CBS and me are going to do a mock draft.
64:00That's going to be fun. And then a full week of shows next week, of course, leading up to the giant Labor Day weekend drafts.
64:08Until then, thanks again so much for listening. Your hat is awesome.
64:12You're awesome for wearing it. I will talk to you on Monday.
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