0:00It's the Harris Fantasy Football Podcast with your host Christopher Harris.
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0:21We are going to get started with the Monday Night Game, which was shaping up to be a fun two-way test.
0:28Last previewed it on Monday's show. Was the newfound maturity the Giants showed in Week 1 for real?
0:34Could Jackson Dart actually be a grown-up? And then were the Rams about to squander these super-team allegations and pile-drive two of
0:41my flag players into the ground with a mediocre offensive environment?
0:45Unfortunately, we never really got to find out the former.
0:48And in the not finding out of the former, we may have gotten unrealistic expectations for the latter.
0:54As you no doubt are aware, Jackson Dart was leading a pretty good first drive.
0:59He just completed a really nice pass to Malachi Fields.
1:03But then he did one of those leaps in the air to throw a long pass, and he got thwacked on his left knee, and it bent funny.
1:12And he went directly to the turf and rolled around holding the knee and was done for the rest of the game.
1:19It just took the air out of that game because, let's just say, a mature, austere vision of the world is not
1:27what the backup quarterbacks for the New York Giants typically subscribe to.
1:31Cause the safety's gotta wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait for me to take the bait, bait, bait, bait, bait.
1:38And the wacky waving tube arms will inflate and they'll pick it off, pick it off.
1:43That's right. It was the wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man Jameis Winston.
1:48Remember that one game in Detroit last year when Dart was out with a concussion?
1:53Sure, why can't he do that again? And I'll tell you why.
1:57Cause he was a damn mess in this game.
2:00And it is like Patrick Doherty said on Monday's show, sometimes the guy who doesn't expect to play when the starter gets
2:07hurt, maybe he's not ready mentally and maybe it'll be better going forward when he knows he's gonna start.
2:13But I ask you, are you betting on that?
2:16If Dart misses games, and I would say there's a pretty good chance he misses games, do we think that's a net
2:24positive to have Jameis Winston in there? Based on last night, oh boy, no.
2:28Mid-second quarter, an okay drive, but he looks for Malik Neighbors in the end zone and dramatically underthrows it for a pick.
2:36Winston started that game 4 for 12 for 58 yards and an interception, ends up 11 for 27.
2:42And the Rams handed him the ball a couple of times.
2:45One play after Jameis was picked, Stat Padford threw a deep ball into double coverage and was intercepted himself.
2:52And the first play after the subsequent punt, Kyron Williams got peanut punched inside his own 10, and the Giants recovered.
2:59And yet, Jameis just could not make anything happen last night.
3:03And by the way, if you have this guy and you get the ball at the opponent's 11, why are you not using him?
3:11We're talking Scadaboo. First down, Tyrone Tracy gets a carry.
3:14Second down, they do bring in Scadaboo and he gets stuffed.
3:18And then they bring in Najee Harris for two carries in close.
3:22That is brutal. That is rough. That goes beyond Jackson Dart.
3:25What are they doing? Did Scadaboo hit on Harbaugh's daughter or something?
3:29Not exactly what you're looking for from the particle accelerator Cam Scadaboo.
3:33And I don't have an explanation for why. They're not just handing it to him when they're close to the end zone, but I'm going to remember it.
3:43And Neighbors, he was on the bust list this year because his price by the end of draft season.
3:49I don't know. I saw some people saying, I'm lamenting my third round pick.
3:54I saw him going late second round. Certainly an extended dart absence will make that unfair to evaluate.
4:00But also, Neighbors gets a target, grabs his shoulder, looks like he's in extreme pain.
4:05He was back out there again though and ran a full accompaniment of routes and got four targets, one catch, one yard.
4:12Not a very good look. And it just does make you realize that when they have major injuries, they're recovering from other
4:19stuff can go wrong because they're just not fully in shape that they need to be.
4:25So that's why we weren't taking Neighbors. But it can get better and the Giants get to play the Titans next week who are not very good.
4:34And I really have seen Winston have good moments as a fill-in.
4:38But yeah, serene and controlled, he ain't. As for the Rams, there was no Puka Nakua in this game and that certainly
4:45opened up some space for Devontae Adams in the game plan.
4:49Eight catches, you say to yourself, I mean, eight catches isn't that much.
4:53195 yards and two touchdowns. The first score was amazing.
4:57A slightly overthrown ball from Stafford and Adams climbs the ladder to go get it and keeps his feet and scores.
5:04Next series, Stafford audibles to a bomb, hangs in the pocket while Adams runs an out and up for a 64-yard gain,
5:11which set up flag player to flag player, a touchdown pass to Kyron Williams.
5:16Right before halftime, Adams made an even more incredible catch for 27 yards to set up a field goal, which they missed.
5:23So it was only 14-3 at the half. In the second half, Adams would have an insane toe tap followed by a
5:30great bounce outside run from Williams and then another insane Adams catch on a fade route to the end zone.
5:37It's 21-3. The Giants were missing pieces in their secondary and it's just not a fair test of an offensive environment when
5:44it becomes pretty clear that they don't have... the other team isn't going to score, you know?
5:50So, I don't know. It should go without saying.
5:53Slightly better results from Week 1 against the 49ers, which brings me to the conclusion it is obviously Puka Nakua who threw off the vibes in Week 1.
6:02And next week in Denver, Puka should just sit out and we'll get four more touchdown passes from Matt Stafford.
6:09The only thing to say here, other than what I've said about the Rams, is Terrence Ferguson.
6:15If you watch that game, I think you probably understand why I really liked his very limited film last year.
6:21You can see how well he moves at his size and someday, if he does become a good and reliable player, someone
6:29will have taught him to turn the hell around because the ball might be coming.
6:34That happened to him twice on Monday night and then also he had a really bad drop on a deep corner route,
6:41but also made really good plays, scored in the fourth quarter, did six for 54, really love Terrence Ferguson in Dynasty, probably not quite there yet in redraft.
6:51I do think he's going to be a really good player.
6:54Today's kickoff. Okay, on today's show, let's keep that going.
6:58Let's see if we can make your fantasy teams better or just give you insights into the NFL and the games that we just saw.
7:06We have five more games from Sunday that we haven't talked about and given you our visual impressions of.
7:12If you don't hear the game you're interested in, it means we talked about it on Monday's podcast.
7:18Would recommend giving that one a listen to today.
7:21We will have the Packers and Jets, Commanders Cowboys, Browns Buccaneers, 49ers Dolphins, and Panthers Falcons.
7:27And then it's time to start thinking about next week and to begin that process.
7:32It'll be our week three waiver wire for which my guest will be John Daigle from Establish the Run.
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8:54What does the film say? The overtime win by the Packers over the Jets.
8:58You want to tell me the ball was wet in that game?
9:02I believe it. There were a bunch of fumbles all over the place, both teams, including back-to-back fumbles by the Packers in
9:10the second quarter, won by Caleb Johnson, who did in fact play, and won by Tucker Craft, both recovered by the Packers.
9:17And then early fourth quarter, Marshawn Lloyd loses a fumble to give the Jets a free field goal and a 10-point lead.
9:24And Jordan Love had kind of been running around like a dummy, and he fumbled, but the Packers recovered that one too.
9:32But I assume you're not blaming the rain for penalties.
9:35And the penalties in this game were just stupid and undisciplined for two teams, I suspect, aren't going to win the Super Bowl.
9:4333 penalties in this game, seven on special teams alone, each team called for unsportsmanlike when he'd just done something good, two
9:50apiece for unnecessary roughness, including the crucial play in overtime when the Jets hit Chris Brooks out of bounds.
9:56Just two incredibly undisciplined teams, I would say. I guess maybe that's understandable when you're the scrappy Jets fighting for respect.
10:03I don't know what the Packers' excuse is other than maybe, I don't know, frustration.
10:08We're not as good as we thought we were.
10:11I think Jordan Love played okay. He lost Jaden Reed on the second snap of the game when he got a headshot
10:19on a screen pass and he was out, hurt his neck, I guess, although I think they're changing what that report says.
10:26He was kept overnight in the hospital. That narrowed down the targets.
10:30Christian Watson, we're always starting so far, he would make a big play early second quarter, then kind of disappear for a long time.
10:38He reappeared inside the Jets' five when it was 17-7 Jets and caught a play-action slant for a touchdown.
10:45Matthew Golden was shut out in the first half, but in the second half, he had one pretty big play and he
10:52also had two deep shots where the Jets kind of had to tackle him for fear of a long touchdown.
10:59With Jaden Reed out, Golden certainly enters the realm of deeper consideration, but I do think teams tell you what they think
11:06of their guys, and this is two straight games in which Golden wasn't much part of the plan until Green Bay fell way behind.
11:14As for the running backs, well, there are three of them and they all have bodies, that's what I can tell you.
11:21Caleb Johnson did play. He was the third man in.
11:25He'll come up at some point, I'm sure, in waivers later.
11:28He was the one who had success first. Marshawn Lloyd looked kind of juiceless again.
11:33Johnson, last play of the first quarter, got some room up the middle for a 13-yard gain.
11:39He at least has some obvious power that he can show.
11:43In the red zone, though, they put Lloyd back in.
11:46He got stuff from the five, but then they ran a little delayed screen to him and he scored his first career touchdown.
11:54Second quarter, Caleb Johnson fumbled, but that's when Jordan Love recovered it.
11:58Fourth quarter, I mentioned Lloyd fumbled and the Jets recovered it.
12:01And then it's 17-14 and the Jets punt and Sky Moore kind of saves Green Bay's bacon with a long punt return down to inside the 20.
12:10And it's Chris Brooks on that series, but they can't move it.
12:14They kick the field goal, sends it to overtime, and Brooks is in for the few offensive plays Green Bay had in overtime.
12:22Gets hit out of bounds and the winning field goal was a chip shot.
12:27Brooks played 22 snaps, Lloyd played 14, and Johnson played 14.
12:30Maybe this is the week we get some word about a Josh Jacobs suspension.
12:35That whole thing is getting ridiculously close to Pound Foolish.
12:39Talk about life imitating art with a Green Bay running back doing bad things.
12:43When I wrote that, that was two years ago.
12:46But yeah, check out Pound Foolish for what happens next.
12:50Until then, hard to strongly endorse any of those sluggish Green Bay running backs.
12:54For the Jets, I don't think they had a first down in the first quarter except maybe by penalty.
13:01Geno Smith probably could have thrown an interception on his second possession.
13:05There's a third and 11 where Garrett Wilson converts a deep dig and then A.D.
13:10Mitchell draws a long interference down to the red zone and then Mitchell has a catch inside the five.
13:16Good first half for him. I believe five catches at halftime.
13:20And that series, rather annoyingly, Braylon Allen had been given that series and he's the one who got to punch in the
13:27touchdown that made it 7-7 which was the score at half.
13:31Late third quarter, finding nothing up the gut, the Jets launched a really controlled drive getting work done more on the perimeter
13:38like in the screen game or short passing or outside zone.
13:42And Garrett Wilson pays it off and immediately gets an unsportsmanlike after his touchdown.
13:46Brees Hall finally got to show off a little on the final play of the third quarter.
13:52A third and long where Hall should probably get like four yards but he makes a crazy cut and accelerates up through
13:59the defense, turns nothing into 42 yards. But when it was 17-17, Geno got impatient.
14:04He took a bomb shot to Mitchell which was pretty close and then it's fourth and one at midfield and they try
14:12Braylon Allen and he gets stuffed and they go to overtime and Geno gets bull rushed for two sacks in OT and
14:19then they false start because every series was federally mandated to have a penalty and that gave up the field position that
14:26led Green Bay to the winning score. The Jets haven't stunk these two weeks.
14:31The offense is more modest in its ambitions than a Geno Smith offense usually is.
14:36We're not talking about a place where we're likely to find a ton of ancillary pieces we want to use but you
14:44can file away and we will talk about in waivers.
14:47Adonai Mitchell was involved early and often. Does look like a decent, deeper compliment to Garrett Wilson.
14:53Let's talk about the true bummer game or at least one of them.
14:57The Bobby Three Sticks game. The commander's hopes are dashed after such a good first half a 17-10 game.
15:03The commanders were at the Dallas 1. They decided they needed a touchdown with three seconds left in the half.
15:10A half which had Daniels making real magic. 70 rushing yards all on scrambles none on called runs.
15:16He had screwed up a red zone pitch out to Jakori Kroski Merritt killing a drive and causing a field goal but
15:23had kept going had looked really good leading them to one touchdown and then we fast forward to that play with three seconds left in the half.
15:32The commanders do go for it. Daniels gets stepped on retreating from under center and falls crazy on his arm once again
15:40and then in trying to get up he's getting tackled and tries to pitch it out and his left arm just bends
15:47the wrong way just like it did last year.
15:50A very gross video if you've seen it. It is dislocated.
15:54They say he didn't break any bones but of course he was out for the game and of course he'll be out for multiple weeks.
16:02It is an RG3 type situation. The dude is just so electric but so snakebitten and it just of course is going
16:09to make the Washington offense tougher to trust with Marcus Mariota at the helm.
16:14Mariota led a couple of good drives in the second half but the caveat was that it was against the Dallas defense which I think is pretty bad.
16:24Observations from the rest of the commanders. Terry McLaurin was also really snakebitten early in the game on a third and 18.
16:31McLaurin ran a deep seven stop to convert but later in the first half it's a double covered deep shot that Daniels
16:38throws anyway and McLaurin initially was ruled to make an incredible touchdown catch but it was overturned on replay correctly I would say.
16:46On that last drive of the first half McLaurin got another end zone target that was a little too high.
16:53First drive of the third quarter McLaurin had another big gain then they ran a trick play and it worked and the
17:00rookie Antonio Williams had Terry McLaurin wide open for a touchdown and no joke underthrew it by 10 yards.
17:06It actually should have been a big Terry McLaurin game where have we heard that before and now of course with Mariota
17:14expectations do have to be reined in. This guy scored again twice.
17:18No victory laps first Von Diggs he was a flag player because we were drafting him as a bench option and I
17:25think with Mariota in charge it's going to be hard to trust him as more than a fantasy bench option but Diggs
17:32scored from the three yard line in the first half and then you know his corner route touchdown was nice but Washington was losing 30-13 at the time.
17:42The backfield is interesting although you know much not really interesting to use but just to talk about because of the far
17:49lesser quarterback at the helm but the commanders really have a thing for Ja'Cory Krosky Merritt that to my eye simply is
17:56not warranted by what he puts out there on the field.
18:00JCM started he had most of the early down work early in the game but then late second quarter they weren't really
18:07even in hurry up and the commanders basically gave a series to Rashad White and I think you know I have a
18:15pretty unvarnished history of not being a huge Rashad White fan there's just no question who had more juice among those two
18:22running backs White was good on that drive back to back probably the best commanders carries of the day that led to
18:30Diggs' first touchdown and was really good in that two minute drill at the end of the half also and yet it's
18:37not a Krosky meritocracy to begin the third quarter JCM right back out there again the snap count does go 36 white
18:4423 JCM touches were even at 1313 but more carries for JCM which just did not feel earned to me and of
18:52course the larger point is not loving anyone in a split backfield that plays behind Marcus Mariota the Cowboys alleviated some concerns
18:59about the offensive environment I mean they put up 37 points so they aren't going to be a bad offense but then
19:06again ask the folks who have Javante Williams and George Pickens about that performance it's a frustrating day for the Dallas running
19:14game Javante gets up to 50 scrimmage yards Pickens does 40 so I mean you're using them but I don't think you're
19:21calling it a super elite offensive environment right now Jake Ferguson scores once when the commanders forgot to cover him and then
19:28again TD Lamb scored twice he was great second touchdown came in after an absolute mortar shot of a pass from Prescott
19:36who was very good Dak Prescott was Lamb over Pickens pretty clearly after a couple weeks the inability of the offense to
19:43do anything but that and not have you know the bunch of guys that are going to benefit from an elite environment
19:50yeah I mean they tried to commit to running they did they weren't giving up on it there's just kind of nothing
19:58there Williams got one carry inside the five in this game and was stuffed Cowboys Ravens in Brazil of all places next
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21:11Browns the Browns here they come they win in Tampa I think we suspect the Buccaneers are not very good but maybe
21:19the Browns possibly not as bad as we feared coming out of week two maybe we don't say all their players are
21:26all completely hands off although none are likely to be ranked as elite options one pattern that did recur from the Jags
21:33game from week one was Casey Concepcion as the obvious focal point coming out of the locker room to start the game
21:41he had a catch and a sweep on the first two plays of that game and five other catches in the contest
21:48but nothing that wasn't kind of like a sideline swing pass and nothing that he broke into the clear though I think
21:55we should take note of the early game preference and maybe at some point he starts breaking those plays but super horizontal
22:03stuff isn't that exciting Denzel Boston dead silent in the first half in Tampa but then with Cleveland losing by 10 in
22:10the third quarter a really good catch on a back shoulder throw followed by an end zone fade that he almost caught
22:18then late third quarter trailing by a touchdown kind of a nothing dig route in the middle of the field that he
22:25caught and the defender tried to blow up Denzel Boston and he survived the hit and spun away and housed it for
22:32the tying touchdown and yeah I think we're gonna talk about him when we get to waivers a little bit the running
22:40up the middle for the Browns still a disaster and Quinchan Judkins definitely its victim but the good news if you find
22:47yourself with Quinchan Judkins on a fantasy team is that Cleveland did seem to understand at some point in that game okay
22:54we're trying to run up the middle it's not happening and then turn to the screen game and that was kind of
23:02the quote unquote extension of the run and it kind of worked and Judkins throws in five catches so it's about 50
23:09scrimmage yards I'm not trying to sell you as good no but it would have been worse if he'd only been running
23:16up the middle as he was on a fourth and one on their own 35 when Judkins was utterly stopped which led
23:24to a field goal that gave Tampa the lead and Deshaun Watson didn't set any records for some kind of awesome aggressive
23:31day but Deshaun Watson also didn't make any mistakes used his legs to get first downs put together an awesome game winning
23:38drive with about five minutes left throwing passes to Boston and check down passes to Judkins Harold Fannin the wonk had a
23:46drop in this game but he did finally get involved a little bit and then it was a misdirection throw to Blake
23:53Whitehart that won the game but the reason the Browns could win it was that Baker Mayfield was busy losing it he
24:00was bad again Sunday they kicked a couple field goals early the third drive the Baker Mayfield blues implosion still don't have
24:08a sound drop for that who sings like muddy waters these days Mayfield has a good third down scramble but then got
24:15confused about coverage and threw one directly to a Cleveland defender mostly it was missed opportunities Mayfield had nine attempts of 20
24:23plus air yards many of them one-on-one where he was just trying to give his guy a chance to make a play
24:30and he he just airmailed a lot of them I'll grant you Ted Hurst probably needs to catch that ball in the
24:37end zone and then maybe I'm not I'm not so mad and I'm singing a different tune but he didn't and the
24:45Bucks lose and I thought that was largely on Mayfield a Mecca Abuka got really shut down by Denzel Ward to the
24:52point where Mayfield was barely even looking at him and Chris Godwin had a bigger day but on a scramble drill in
24:59the third quarter thankfully Abuka did get loose and score a touchdown to salvage his day in the backfield Bucky Irving great
25:07stuff almost never goes down on first contact for such a small guy second drive he made a great cut to make
25:14someone miss in the open field gained 40 yards early in the third he had an awesome cutback when he was like
25:21supposed to go right and it was bottled up he jumped like three holes to the left and and yeah he doesn't
25:29score but he does play 48 snaps to 23 for Kenneth Gainwell Gainwell did get the two-minute drill at the end of
25:36the half but it was Irving in there on the final attempted drive it started raining Irving was partly responsible for getting
25:43them pretty close but in the end they needed four points and ran out of time the Niners an easy win over
25:51the Dolphins that was the oldest team in the NFL against the youngest team a pretty good first half competitive I talked
25:58about the Cardinals hanging in against the Seahawks on yesterday's show this wasn't quite like that it was 14 to six at
26:06the half not seven seven but Miami did move the ball in the first half with a few good drives Devon HN
26:13had 14 carries in the first half he's the only guy you're starting on that team but they again didn't look to
26:20me like the worst team in the league not good they miss a 51 yard field goal on the first drive HN
26:28had a jump cut on the second drive to find a huge rushing lane and a great move on a third down
26:35catch to convert a third and long and they got to the red zone and HN was tired so Jalen Wright got
26:42two carries very good carries I think he's good I still do doesn't matter but I do that's when Malik Willis started
26:50running around and scrambling and running out of bounds so they only get a field goal then three minutes left in the
26:57first half Willis made a great escape and threw a great ball to Malik Washington down to the 9 or 20 they
27:04gave Ollie Gordon a carry in that series he did nothing Caleb Douglas did get a catch for a first down inside
27:12the 10 before he wound up getting hurt at the end of that game but HN got stuffed a few times and
27:19they had to kick another field goal at the end of the half late third quarter they fumble away a punt the
27:26only thing of note from the second half was three minutes left in Basura time trailing 35 to 6 Willis throws a
27:34bomb to quote unquote Ryan Miller who I thought was a retired hockey goalie that was a meaningless long touchdown I had
27:41last people last week yelling at me like shouldn't you have Caleb Douglas higher I think the answer is probably no I
27:48don't know what's going to happen but this does not look like a place that's going to support reliable receiver production like
27:56Pat Doherty said on Monday's show though even the Dolphins have someone you can use every week but that's Devon HN only
28:03the Niners I believe the posterior horseshoe Brock Purdy had one in completion during the competitive portion of this game and that
28:11was a drop by Debo Samuel on the first drive trustable guys here pretty darn trustable Christian McCaffrey somehow overcame his tiny
28:18bones to score twice on the goal line although he did get stuffed a couple times to the coconut D boney actually
28:25had a carry as a running back inside the 30 Kalon Black he was someone else people were really mad at me
28:33about I don't know they were asking flex questions I got some I got some angry tweets I think when you're starting
28:40Kalon Black you're just you're just getting cute and you're asking for problems Black played in this game right away on the
28:47first series but did not overall play as much as he did in Australia and really only when McCaffrey needed a blow
28:55the Jordan James carries you'll see in the box score all came with Mac Jones playing Black only does seven for 25
29:02a lot of running directly into the pile I think Kalon Black is a handcuff that if you have McCaffrey you should
29:09really have and if you don't have McCaffrey it's fine once the bye weeks start working because he's got some upside if
29:17they start blowing someone out but the way I tend to play fantasy is not to look at the point spread and
29:24assume oh you know they're gonna be killing them so that guy's gonna get some carries in the fourth quarter because if
29:31it's that much of a blowout then the third stringer comes in as Jordan James did the only bad news here was
29:39Demarcus Robinson from the 49ers had a couple of short catches in the first half later on made a catch inside the
29:46five but he hurt himself like I don't think he actually got hit he just landed crazy after the catch reportedly suffered
29:54a high ankle sprain so he's out which feels like it provides a guy like Debo Samuel that much more security the
30:01other candidates to run routes there are Jacob Cowing and Kaderil Hodge neither of whom for me are gonna show up on
30:08waivers you got two plays for George Kittle in the second half including the first play of the second half where the
30:16Dolphins tried the avant-garde move of absolutely not covering him one on a fake pitch out where Kittle rumbled for a huge
30:23gain and then a couple plays later with Kalon Black playing in the red zone they go play action everybody jumps and
30:30once again Kittle doing the jazz hands by himself for a touchdown Mike Evans had a nice scramble drill third down conversion
30:38in the first half and a nice catch in the third quarter but the Niners obviously pulled the air brakes while blowing
30:45the Dolphins out next week home Cardinals probably not a great opponent but I do think so far better than Miami and
30:52lastly a game so boring Fox decided to switch the audio to different games while the action was still playing the Panthers
31:00go to Atlanta and humiliate the Falcons the other entertaining thing in this game was dusting off Tim Brando and Matt Millen
31:07to do the games like it was 1994 Matt Millen quite possibly the worst executive in the history of pro sports you
31:14always got a job when Fox needs whatever an 11th broadcast crew Matt and Millen is almost 70 he doesn't really want
31:22to be there and my dream announcing crew would be Al Michaels at 81 years old and Matt Millen at 68 because
31:29they both freak the hell out when a flag gets thrown Al you've heard every Thursday night can't stand it loses his
31:36mind when it's a penalty and in this game every time there was a flag while Brando who is 70 himself was
31:44still making the call Millen would mutter under his breath flag flag flag on the play flag truly entertaining audio in this
31:51game and not that much to talk about otherwise throw the entire Falcons part of it into the trash because Cooper Rush
31:59will never play again he was so bad first play from scrimmage he runs a naked boot for 10 yards and loses
32:06a fumble second drive a deflected interception third drive ends on a Kyle Pitts drop fourth drive they have a fourth and
32:13one in field goal range they try a Drake London jet sweep and he's stuffed Kevin Stefanski so far I don't know
32:21I mean Michael Penix is reportedly going to play Thursday night that's going to be better but Stefanski so far looking like
32:28a real one and done get ready to speak Pete Carroll buddy the Falcons fans had had enough by the end of
32:35the second quarter and were booing lustily Rush should have thrown a pick late second quarter and then he did throw one
32:43horribly in the third he was benched London sat to Jack Strand came in and did not rescue them and we're told
32:50that it's Penix in Green Bay on Thursday night the Panthers another good offensive day Bryce Young really good Chuba Hubbard you
32:57know like what's a starting running back in the NFL anymore that's a great question Harris I mean he is one I
33:05think as close as we get right now in the league Jonathan Brooks actually hurts his groin in this game and was
33:12out by the end so Chuba catches a touchdown on the first series both Jalen Coker and Tedderall McMillan played well here
33:19and kind of look like usable fantasy commodities right now I don't think the Falcons defense stinks although as I said off
33:27the top of the show between Rams Giants when the opposing offense just obviously isn't going to score points and there just
33:34is not pressure on you as a quarterback it does make it so much easier see also Drake May finishing second in
33:41the MVP last year like it did help Bryce Young to probably feel not tons of pressure but for whatever it's worth
33:49both receivers are starting to look usable for fantasy McMillan had two big ones in a row in the second quarter when
33:56Young really threw nice balls daggers into tight coverage and then on the same drive Coker said anything you can do I
34:04can do better I hope you see that 30 seconds left in the I think before that because Lee get had the
34:11catch right at the beginning right at the end of the second quarter but watch the Coker highlight that was a crazy
34:18catch inside the 10-yard line and then the Lee get catch led to a Darren Waller touchdown McMillan had an incredible deep
34:26shot catch for 30 yards early third quarter then Waller scored his second touchdown and of course that's when they pull the
34:33ripcord I don't think they've faced like an awesome defense yet but they go to Cleveland next week so I don't think
34:40they're gonna face an awesome defense next week either and Chuber is a really good story and I'm not ever gonna claim
34:48credit for it but it does make me feel good because to see him play well and to realize that not playing
34:55well last year just feels very clearly now like it was about injury I don't feel quite as bad about my evaluation
35:02he's a really good player I think if you wound up with him on a team and Brooks is hurt I think
35:10you're gonna be pretty happy with Chuba Hubbard we are sponsored by Trust and Will I have used Trust and Will to
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36:23course huge Harry Potter fan only in so far as he knows a few of the characters names not me I don't
36:31I don't know any of them I it's Hermione is that a person is that a person John in the you're actually
36:38ahead of the game I didn't even know you realized her yeah okay good I mean it's funny that the song extols
36:45you as a huge Harry Potter fan when you're not but whatever more than me you can find John on Twitter at
36:53not Jay Daigle you can read him and hear him and all the things you need to do at establish the run
37:00and I mean it's the he's a waiver guy he's lucky to get him for this show because he writes the waiver
37:07column for establish the run dot com so you're getting an insight into how he thinks about this stuff and I would
37:15say you know compared to week one I hope people didn't burn all their fab because we're gonna tell them about some
37:22guys we actually do want to add I think based on what you most likely talked about in your show in week
37:29one my outlook of it at establish the run as well I would imagine we both suggested to not spend all your
37:37fab in week one given how bare that waiver wire was but there are a lot of exciting additions this week yeah
37:44at least with with possibility I can't tell you that I'm positive any of them are like amazing players although they could
37:52be there are some young guys on there who are eligible but agreed there's there's just more injuries more holes in lineups
37:59so we will talk about them did you is there so my rule of course as you know is when we don't
38:06talk about players rostered in more than one third of Yahoo leagues is there anybody in a very shallow league that you
38:14know somebody's in a 10 team league and you've got guys on the waivers who are 50% or even more owned but
38:21they're available in their leagues was there anybody that you're like yeah even in a very shallow league names that you won't
38:28mention on the main list that you wanted to mention up top a very shallow league week two or I'm sorry week
38:36three now is more about going back and looking who was dropped based on past performances so the three names that come
38:43to mind that could be that could be out there are still Devon Vele we've now seen be the Saints number two
38:50at Saints team that is a two-point conversion away from being two and oh against the Lions and Ravens on the road
38:58pretty impressive what Kellen Moore is doing there and then I'll also mention Makai Lemon given that Dallas Goddard is now going
39:05to be out a few games and they do not have a tight end that would then funnel those targets to I'm
39:12just expecting either a route tree change or maybe just more opportunity for a first-round player and then Khalil Shakir as well
39:20given the DJ more injury and upcoming potential shootout against the Chargers yeah do we have we heard anything I have I
39:27was like in the submarine I don't really like pay attention too much for about 30 hours while I'm watching all the
39:35games have we heard anything about Moore's injury yet no I would say DJ Moore and Saquon Barkley and Jadarian Price those
39:42are the three biggest injuries we're watching ahead of week three yeah interesting all right well so don't crash your car everybody
39:49because I'll put all these names that we mentioned in this segment in today's show notes so don't have to scramble them
39:57write them down put them in your text file while you're driving please don't do that we will have them available for
40:04you John as you're aware because you've been doing this show many years when you add somebody you do have to drop
40:11somebody and when you drop somebody we give them the Thursday boot because this get this is of course sponsored by Thursday
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40:48of Thursday boot sneakers they really look good so Thursday boots.com we do appreciate how long they've sponsored we're gonna count these
40:55down five through one and we will give some fab advice at the end who's your number five waiver ad for this
41:03list of people who are owned in a third of Yahoo leagues or less I usually don't suggest a tight end because
41:10they are very streamable based on matchups on waivers weekly and whether he be streamable or a potential starter for the rest
41:17of the season we're going to find out with a Rondé Gadsden for the Chargers because after this past game both Charlie
41:25Kolar and David Njoku put on injured reserve we had now have this month runway for Gadsden who we did see have
41:32a little bit of success last year it was a month window we could use him and also it's just the fact
41:40that he's not a blocking tight end thus he has to be out there running routes and catching passes I'm not giving
41:47up on the Chargers after week two just yet have they looked like I should give up on them yes absolutely but
41:54I'm not doing that just yet so I'm still latching on to pieces here and Gadsden's one of them my number four
42:02waiver ad for week three is a Rondé Gadsden at six percent rostered we shared a feeling on that one you know
42:09that story changed quick and and it's funny the Chargers were pretty honest about it or at least their beat reporters got
42:16the idea from somebody that remember when you thought Rondé Gadsden was good for like three quarters of a year last year
42:24and then okay he disappointed you at the end but remember when you thought he was good he was an ascending player
42:31yeah forget all that new offensive coordinator hates him doesn't want to use him just a weird like they got to try
42:38something different I don't know that I'm ready to use Gadsden right away but I don't think he has as nearly as
42:46much competition so yeah he's number four on my list who's your number four now I'm number four is Seahawks running back
42:53Emmanuel Wilson like we talked about we were waiting to see the actual diagnosis and timeline on rookie Jadarian Price's shoulder injury
43:00suffered on Sunday and whenever coach Mike McDonald was asked about it he said quote it's intact I believe not sure what
43:08that actually means but ominously it doesn't sound great that he's hoping that it's intact so at least in the short term
43:15it seems like Emmanuel Wilson who came off the bench once Price was injured out touched George Holani a career special teamer
43:23and and satellite receiving back 14 to 4 for the rest of the game seems like Wilson this is going to be
43:30his backfield in the interim so a player that if you're desperate already you can plug in he has my number three
43:37I realized I forgot my number five so we'll get to him in a second but my number three is Emmanuel Wilson
43:45he's 1% rostered that's another one in I didn't put this together when I put when I put together my list but
43:52it's another one where the picture did significantly change from what we expected this summer if you think about it okay so
43:59they draft Price and they're of course talking pretty about Zach Charbonnet but you know I think the fantasy world did do
44:07a pretty good job of sniffing out that level of BS when it came to Charbonnet and they spent not a huge
44:14obvious backup money but they spent money on Emmanuel Wilson to get him as a free agent they very clearly did that
44:21with the idea of pairing him with somebody that's why you do it and then I guess just whatever like all through
44:29August you know suddenly it became kind of known that George Holani was ahead of Emmanuel Wilson on the depth chart and
44:36in week one that's absolutely against the Patriots what it looked like and you're like okay I guess all those assumptions I
44:43made about Emmanuel Wilson maybe being a smart clever 14th round pick were completely wrong and then week two Price gets hurt
44:51and what do we see Emmanuel Wilson takes over so something happened between week one and week two I would definitely be
44:58adding Wilson over George Holani I like you I'm not positive that Price misses time I like you I'm not positive Emmanuel
45:05Wilson has the backfield to himself because he probably doesn't I like you I'm not positive Emmanuel Wilson is great at football
45:13but riddle me this do you think the Packers would like to have retained Emmanuel Wilson at this point after seeing the
45:20three guys on Sunday I believe so yeah yeah I mean I think that was they didn't know that Jacob's suspension was
45:28coming of course I'm not I can't in retrospect get mad at them for it but if they could do it over
45:35of course Emmanuel Wilson would very clearly be the starting running back for Green Bay so he is indeed my number three
45:42I put for my number five and and you're gonna stop me if you have him on your list but he might
45:50be an honorable mention not being in your top five but I put Denzel Boston 33% rostered at number five did he
45:57make your list he's actually my number one overall okay talk about him so we're right there after week one we could
46:04have said okay Denzel Boston had one fewer target than Casey Concepcion who was drafted a day before around higher but he
46:12scored a touchdown so we're watching we're monitoring Boston here and this wide open target tree with new players around Harold Fannin
46:19but we're not quite sure yet but now we look back after week two he he leads the team in end zone
46:26targets with two of them he's clearly their downfield threat in not only matching Concepcion and targets but also in matching him
46:34with targets it also comes for Boston 16 and a half yard downfield on average so he's not just like the chase
46:41clay pool get downfield we'll give you two shots per game and it's volatile and unusable fantasy he's getting a heaping of
46:48targets all downfield where he explodes and scored two touchdowns already so I like Denzel Boston in a wide open target tree
46:56so he makes your number one and we'll talk about what we should spend on our top options here momentarily we didn't
47:03actually wind up with the same number one the reason he was number five for me I just reviewed that film yesterday
47:10and and talked about it earlier on today's show so the folks have just heard me give my opinion who am I
47:18gonna have rated higher I mean that's not the question I'll ask it as a question to you because the because Casey
47:25Concepcion not eligible for this list the Browns clearly through two games each game have come out like let's get the ball
47:33in Concepcion's hands let's do it come on and then they stay kind of variably committed to it as the game goes
47:40along so you wouldn't say he's the number one weapon no matter what but there does seem to be a preference earlier
47:47in the game toward Concepcion so like if you were if you had both Browns receivers available who do you think you'd
47:55be likelier to start over the other one say just in week three it's still Concepcion it's easier targets over the intermediate
48:02level of the field plus some carries per week as well yeah they started out with a like I said with a
48:09catch and a carry right to start the game um and that's probably why Boston is five on my list so but
48:17I'm not mad at you kind of like taking like unlike I'm putting Emmanuel Wilson ahead of him but unlike Emmanuel Wilson
48:24Denzel Boston actually might be a really good pro at some point in his career Emmanuel Wilson probably we know what he
48:31is and he's good good physical backup type running back so I get why you're taking the the bigger stab than I
48:39am at at Boston he's worth considering on waivers for sure I'll hold the thought on him about fab and we'll get
48:46there eventually I think we are now at your I'm writing them down so that they'll be in the show notes we're
48:53at your number three we are and I broke the rules and I just have a combo of guys I have a
49:01couple here to talk about and it's all because Saquon Barkley another injury we're monitoring shoulder left the game on the first
49:08carry in week two came back for one drive to start third quarter but around that we saw take Bigsby lead the
49:16team with 15 touches and Will Shipley surprisingly unlike last year where Bigsby was their primary and basically only backup Will Shipley
49:23run around on 57 percent of drop backs uh finished with 32 percent of the team's backfield touches himself on Monday night
49:30this upcoming game for the Eagles is against the Bears that we've seen Chuba Hubbard finishes the RB 10 Aaron Jones had
49:38over 100 yards last week and so it's a great matchup for both Bigsby and Shipley if Barkley's out so I'm just
49:45combining them together here that is cheating and I'm afraid I'm going to have to turn the knob here and shock you
49:52I zoom gave me the capacity capacity sorry bungle do we use bungle do obviously to record the show uh so I'm
50:00gonna push the button here and give you an electric shock uh I tank Bigsby is my number two but I did
50:07not wimp out and put Will Shipley also on the list uh I get your point um of course in the show
50:14notes I'm gonna write it as Cartavious Bigsby because he is the map maker around these parts and I do have a
50:22soft spot for Cartavious two it's hard to remember two years ago it's hard to remember that Jacksonville season I guess we're
50:29gonna probably agree that Travis Etienne was just hurt and that's why tank Bigsby freaking won that job kind of outright as
50:36the season went along and played pretty well like that touchdown run was really good on on Sunday against the Titans that
50:44was a good run very good and he showed us last year in week 18 his interim start whenever he played for
50:51Saquon Barkley uh had over 100 yards from scrimmage he's been a good player whenever he stepped in outside of his rookie
50:58season which was a disaster every time he touched the ball fumbled a lot as a rookie and of course the the
51:06worry now is you fumble once and Will Shipley's right there I would be picking Bigsby over Shipley I completely agree with
51:13you though watching it I was like huh is that Will Shipley uh and he was playing and he was okay he
51:21got bigger uh Will Shipley he he was okay I prefer Bigsby he's my two um we've done my three uh we've
51:28got a lot of overlap here which is to say I think we're gonna have all overlap because I think I know
51:35who your two is I think your two and my one are probably the same guy and they're the only guys we
51:43haven't talked about who you got I am assuming my two and Jonah Coleman yes is your number one and a wide
51:50range of outcomes here uh so much so just look to week one whenever Pat Bryant was targeted at a higher rate
51:57than Jalen Waddell Sean Payton does not care about your fantasy team or basically the best players on his own team so
52:05Jonah Coleman could come out and get like week one zero touches again after J.K.
52:10Dobbins suffered a hamstring injury in week two R.G.
52:13Harvey was inactive because he suffered a hamstring injury midweek both those players could come back and Jonah Coleman could go right
52:20back to the bench but I do wonder if we're in a situation where the genie can't get put back in the
52:27lamp after Coleman out touched Tyler Bidet nine to one once Dobbins left that game in week two Coleman exploded for the
52:35go-ahead touchdown in the fourth quarter as well just maybe a player that Sean Payton has been waiting to unleash and perhaps
52:42he did enough to stick around and be like an RB3 flex yeah maybe that's right and that's probably about where he
52:49deserves to be ranked well probably if Dobbins and Harvey are both going to miss this game he probably deserves to be
52:57ranked higher than that I think it's the Rams though so you know I'm not positive he's going to have a great
53:04environment to run in but he's my one um whereas you have Boston as your one and I'll say I feel like
53:12Coleman came as advertised I was not blown away by moves I was not blown away by speed but as a as
53:19a good power back who has a little bit he can hit the I don't know what on the controller what's the
53:26spin move button I haven't played in a long circle circle uh he has the circle he tries to circle and it
53:34doesn't work great uh but he did get away and the touchdown was good I thought you know Biggsby touchdowns probably better
53:41run but you'll take it and you'll take a potentially you know are the Broncos a good offense they look like one
53:48in week two after not looking like one in week one um but I got I I'm absolutely right there with you
53:56uh it's 28 percent roster Jonah Coleman would be my number one ad and so it does beg the question I mean
54:03I don't know that's ever happened it hasn't happened recently where me and the guest have the same top five in a
54:10different order but we had the same top five um so we have to ask the question what are we doing for
54:18fab uh let's talk about both for you both Coleman and Boston because you know there might be a team that needs
54:25a running back is this a is this a like we're going to spend significant amount this week if you want to
54:32sure I always preface it as you probably the scared way out as you mentioned and that you know your league better
54:40than I do so you know I've been I've been wrong on windows of how people will bid on these players but
54:47for me Denzel Boston is a 7 to 12 fab bib I believe you can probably win him with seven or eight
54:55bucks given that he shouldn't have been on the waiver wire after week one and he's still there in week two and
55:02then same goes for Joe same goes for Jonah Coleman although I think people tend to get more excited about running backs
55:09it's just a more sparse position and so in order to win Coleman I suggested 11 to 14 what about you I
55:17think you're gonna need more than that to get Coleman I think Coleman will be I think he'll be the number one
55:24waiver out of the week I think you might need to spend like 25 and I think wow I think that's fine
55:31to be honest I mean you're not blowing at all and I think you probably want to do it if you have
55:39Dobbins and make sure you just sort of like you know like lock it up just in case Dobbins is out and
55:46let's face it it's Dobbins he's gonna be out and probably Harvey like you said midweek injury not great makes you feel
55:53like he might miss another game too one fantasy win is worth a lot you know so I could see I think
56:01I'll put it this way would I spend the 25 if I were oh and two and I had Dobbins yes do
56:08I think a bid of 15 is going to get it done on Coleman you said it perfectly correct which is you
56:15know your league everybody knows their league better than we do and they know what players go for my tendency is to
56:23think that in leagues where everybody is paying attention like 12 to 15 might not get it done for Coleman completely fair
56:30uh yeah I guess I need to wrap my head around would I personally do 26 for Coleman and I guess it
56:37depends on your build if you drafted something a team where you know you thought you were going to get RB2 numbers
56:45and waiting out of Marshawn Lloyd Tony Pollard's list goes on then you're probably desperate and if that's the case I would
56:52spend 26 that's it's tough because you can like you said it right I don't think any of these guys are guaranteed
57:00to produce right away but there is potential for a lot of production and I don't know also maybe we get before
57:07you have to make your call on a Tuesday night or Wednesday morning maybe we get some injury clarity on a Barkley
57:14or a Dobbins or a Harvey that kind of thing uh honorable mentions for me I'll just go through the list uh
57:22Caleb Johnson and Chris Brooks just as stashes uh Adnay Mitchell was my close number six uh did you did he wind
57:29up kind of high on your list not in your top five but he honorable mention but yeah but Rashad Bateman was
57:36my close number six since we're waiting out Zay Flowers injury right yeah that's a good question Zay Flowers could miss another
57:44week and Bateman just one of those weeks where like you and I both when we talked about Jonah Coleman uh we
57:51both use the term maybe like I think that describes the waiver wire perfectly there's a lot of maybes out here that
57:58I'm interested in but at the end of the day they are maybes that's right and and much more than week one
58:06like we were struggling to come up with games after after week one for sure uh Dontavian Wicks at 29 percent still
58:13rostered um he's he's it's viable and uh like you said no Goddard means some more targets for someone else maybe uh
58:20probably not Zach Ertz I didn't I didn't put him on the list uh Trey Tucker 29 percent we talked about him
58:28on Monday's show Xavier Hutchinson and Kayshaun Booty because we think Nico Collins gonna miss another game but again these are desperation
58:35deep league type names Keenan Allen 24 percent because we do have the Alec Pierce is like probably not playing again for
58:42a while and Malachi Fields 18 percent that was a really good catch when Jackson Dart was was in there last night
58:50uh just kind of putting in a word for him that's great John uh funny that we overlap but good to feel
58:57reinforced that I'm not crazy because you're good at this I hope folks will follow John on Twitter at not Jay Daigle
59:05and you'll there you'll get links to all his stuff but establish the run our friends over there John is writing the
59:12waiver column what a pleasure to get you on the show again this year thank you so much for doing it it
59:19is always fun to join you and look forward to doing so again here in a couple weeks for everybody and thank
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60:11incredibly lucky thank you so much for being here I appreciate it that's gonna do it for this Tuesday episode I'm gonna
60:18go make some ranks for week three and get those up as soon as I can they'll be at harrisfootball.com coming up
60:25on Wednesday on the Yacht Club Andy Behrens and I will dig into the week three ranks and we get to talk
60:33about a lot more names than you're gonna hear about on Thursday so if you're ever tempted to become a Yacht Club
60:40subscriber it's pretty fun we'll do an hour of ranks talk and talk about places where we agree and differ and where
60:48lineup pressure points might be then of course if you are in the Yacht Club and hear the Wednesday shows you also
60:55get to be there for the live streams on Sunday morning and also on Monday night Sunday morning I do a live
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