0:00It's the Harris Fantasy Football Podcast with your host, Christopher Harris.
0:04Welcome! Hey everybody, welcome in. My name is Chris and this show is 16 Fluid Ounces of Fun.
0:10Hello there you yacht possums. How in the big wide world are ya?
0:14I am fully back in the habit of waking up and making a show and it's really fun.
0:20I'm having a great time doing this every weekday now.
0:24I hope you are too. Getting back in the routine of getting shouted at the moment you start this very stupid show.
0:31Just in the past few days, where have I heard from people?
0:35Switzerland, Germany, several people in Australia, somebody in New Zealand.
0:39Steve in Kenya wrote in. Amazing to hear from you, Steve.
0:42Truly, the tapeworms are everywhere. It is my honor to be talking to you.
0:47And it's my honor to announce the Cousin Josh bribery.
0:50I felt like I had to say this the moment we settled on it and made sure it was possible.
0:57Julie Redd was the one who suggested it. Thank you, Julie.
1:01We're going to do two pound foolish drawings for prizes at the end of today's show.
1:06Today, one of the prizes is a Zoom session with me.
1:10And another prize is a signed copy of one of my books.
1:14But I hope today's winners don't feel sad because they won't have won Friday's drawing.
1:19When Cousin Josh is on the show, I will announce that winner on Friday because that winner is going to do a
1:27mock draft with me and Cousin Josh on our YouTube channel.
1:30Recorded on our channel. We're going to record it this coming Monday evening.
1:35Won't be like recorded live, but yeah, it'll be on the channel.
1:39That's a big one. A big giveaway. A great idea.
1:42Mock drafting with me and Cousin Josh. If that sounds like something you would like to win, all you have to do
1:50is preorder a copy of my forthcoming novel, Pound Foolish.
1:53Send me a screen capture. HeyHarris at HarrisFootball.com. We're up to 400 entries.
1:58We got a bunch yesterday. I sent out a mailing.
2:01You might have gotten it. That's great. And I'm super proud and happy for however many people.
2:07It's all fun. It's all gravy. It's still a very small percentage of the audience.
2:12Very small. So as of right now, I mean, it's not an amazing chance one in 400, but you'll take it.
2:19That's not horrible. And if you find yourself, you know, thinking you'd like to be in a draft with Cousin Josh, who wouldn't?
2:27This is a good moment to do it. Enter now.
2:30You will be entered for Friday. It's a big one.
2:33Also, if you currently can't afford the luxury of a book because you're strapped, you're saving for something big, let me know that too.
2:42Please reach out. We've had several volunteer possums who are springing for books.
2:46Matt and Josh and Nate and James and Isaac.
2:49They've got you. Email me. Let me know. And anyone getting a free copy, you are entered in the bribery as well.
2:56Big prize coming up on Friday. Mock drafting with me and Josh.
3:01Very fun stuff. And I should just say, I haven't said this.
3:05Like if you're on board with the book already or you're considering it, I would love it if every person listening shared Pound Foolish with one other person.
3:14You know, they're someone in your life who's a reader.
3:17They like mysteries. They like sports fiction. That would be so cool.
3:22It would be so great. Obviously, I'm doing this entirely by myself this time around.
3:27I've never done this before and always had somebody, you know, two various publishers.
3:31I need all the help you can give me.
3:34I really do appreciate that. All right. What's going on in this very silly game that we play?
3:41There are joint practices today. Cowboys Rams, Colts Patriots, Buccaneers Jets, Titans 49ers.
3:45These are good days to be paying attention to beat reports.
3:49Not that everything that happens in joint practices or, you know, every little observation isn't going to be actionable.
3:55Most of them are not going to be. But it's a hell of a lot more interesting to me than yet another
4:03seven on seven red zone drill where the beat reporter is guessing why a certain running back was on the field and everybody's then posting about it.
4:12And I just can't do that. You do at least start to get a sense of personnel groupings and there's hitting and there's tackling.
4:20There's legit skill in getting open or making someone miss so much more than practice reports and much more than the actual
4:27exhibition games that they come in advance of. I give some attention to these joint practices.
4:33And for these four, for example, we'll probably talk about them on Thursday show, I would say.
4:38Whatever lessons we thought we learned from the beat reporters.
4:42Because tomorrow, Wednesday, is the Yacht Club. I like to do things like this for the main show.
4:48So you can expect some reviews of what the beat people said about these joint practices on Thursday's podcast.
4:54Other news, the biggest report to my way of thinking from Monday involved Alec Pierce, about whom we spoke last Thursday on
5:02the show as part of the Film Room Heroes episode with JJ.
5:06I had Pierce on my list, not because I was necessarily excited about drafting him given his health, but because over the
5:13course of last season, I think Pierce was the guy who grew the most in my eyes from my previous opinion about him more than any other player.
5:23And I therefore understood why on tape the Colts paid him such a big contract to stick around in Indianapolis.
5:30But what do we always say? The most important stuff in training camp comes when the teams can't stop the negative stuff from leaking out.
5:38And on Monday, they did leak for Alec Pierce.
5:41He had the ankle surgery back in March. He was, according to the GM and the coach, very clearly supposed to be
5:49back doing something at practice by now. And he's not.
5:52And the Athletic reported, surely because the Athletic was told by someone on the team who's trying to mitigate the damage, that
5:59Pierce had a second injection of platelet-rich plasma in his injured ankle recently, which you probably don't do if your ankle is feeling hunky-dory.
6:08Long term, does it change Pierce's career upswing? Not that I know of yet.
6:12But in the immediate term, how can this not lower him in the ranks?
6:17Because now we have inside his range of outcomes the worry that the ankle doesn't get right for weeks or months and that he misses an entire camp.
6:27And for sure, sometimes when these guys miss entire camps, they're not quite in game shape and they maybe get hurt in
6:34addition to the injury they already have. It's just overall not great sounding.
6:38For sure, there's still a chance for this to get undone if he's suddenly fine.
6:43And I might add, there's a chance for Pierce to do nothing in camp and then be absolutely fine and great for the entire season.
6:52And then it turned out he came at tremendous value in our drafts.
6:56But I just don't see how you can assume that.
7:00Pierce dropped to number 40 in my receiver. Ranks standard 43 PPR.
7:04That puts him in the eighth round. So not somebody I can be drafting to be a true fantasy starter just now.
7:11And if the news gets worse, he's got downward mobility from there too.
7:16Not a great way to kick off the new contract.
7:19And I still won't be surprised. Maybe at some point we get the word that possibly Keenan Allen winds up signing there.
7:26That has been a rumor that's been out there for quite a bit.
7:31A couple other camp injuries that so far don't sound like major deals.
7:35But considering who they are, definitely at least worth continuing to check in on.
7:40Harris benches more than Christian McCaffrey. Not anymore. I do not.
7:44I do lighter weights with a quarter pump on each rep.
7:47Thanks to my unbelievable trainer friend and yacht possum, Zach Y.
7:51But indeed, Christian McCaffrey was one of these guys.
7:54CMC sat out Monday's practice with muscle tightness. With anybody else, that's the literal definition of a nothing burger.
8:01And my very, very strong guess is that it's a nothing burger for McCaffrey too.
8:06But we will just note that it happened and make sure it doesn't keep happening with the oft-injured McCaffrey.
8:12And J.K. Dobbins, if anyone gets injured more oft than McCaffrey, it is Dobbins.
8:17And he limped off a practice field on Monday.
8:20Sean Payton told reporters it was a soft tissue injury and Dobbins will be fine.
8:25Insert the meme that says, sure, Jan, here. In fact, a few days ago, Dobbins gave a press conference where he gave
8:33a pinky promise to reporters that he would play the full 17 games this year.
8:38Why? It's almost as if pinky promises don't mean anything anymore.
8:41Once again, not changing ranks based on one thing.
8:44Not freaking out. But certainly going to keep an eye on Dobbins over the next few days as well.
8:51Would you like to hear Dobbins' almanac profile pre-pinky promise?
8:54PPP. Pre-pinky promise. Sure you would. That almanac profile goes a little something like this.
8:59If you're basing everything off cumulative stats from 2025, I'm putting the wrong Broncos running back first.
9:05That other guy will be along on the list very shortly.
9:09If you're basing everything off the likelihood Dobbins stays healthy for a full season, uh, yeah, ditto.
9:15But if you're trying to weigh those factors against how the Denver running backs played and how Sean Payton seemed to want
9:22to deploy them when everybody was upright, I think J.K.
9:25Dobbins deserves to be first among near equals. When he tore a ligament in his left foot in week 10, Dobbins was fantasy's RB15 and rookie R.J.
9:35Harvey was RB24. And watching it game by game, it honestly didn't feel that close.
9:40As I say, we'll discuss Harvey in a second.
9:43But by comparison, Dobbins looked for real. He had a hundred more carries than his counterpart.
9:48First play of the second half, week three against the Chargers, shotgun RPO, and Dobbins flashes legit speed on a 41-yard gain.
9:56Monday night, the next week, against the Bengals, Dobbins was the best player on the Denver offense, dominating with slashes and cuts
10:03between the tackles, and Harvey mostly played Basora time.
10:06In week five's comeback upset in Philly, Dobbins found as much daylight as a good defense would allow and scored a shorty.
10:13At that point in the season, he led all NFL running backs in carries that gained 10-plus yards.
10:20Harvey was getting a distracting amount of red zone receiving work, and both guys had a role.
10:25But Dobbins' role was more repeatable and valuable. Well, but if it's a day that ends in Y, Dobbins can get hurt on it.
10:33His Liz Frank injury happened in the third quarter of week 10 against the Raiders on a hip drop tackle uncalled by Tyree Wilson.
10:42In retrospect, we can see Dobbins fumble once he was down and grab his foot, but he actually stayed in the game
10:49and converted the final first down to lock up a 10-7 win.
10:53Unfortunately, unshockingly, he needed surgery and was out for the rest of the year.
10:58In his stead, Harvey finished RB17 the rest of the way on the shoulders of some touchdowns, but still looked pretty bad as a runner.
11:06This winter, the Broncos drafted Jonah Coleman in the fourth round, but they also decided to re-up Dobbins.
11:12If we could magically grant all these Denver running backs health for the entire 26th season, Dobbins would deserve to be a
11:20lot higher than this in the ranks. But, um, shall we go through the list?
11:25In addition to the ruptured foot ligament, Dobbins has torn a knee meniscus, torn an ACL, sprained a knee, torn an Achilles, and sprained the other knee.
11:34Of a possible 101 professional regular season games, Dobbins has played in 54.
11:39He's held together by orange, navy, and white duct tape.
11:42So, that's how that one goes. Obviously, I was referring to Harvey the six-foot invisible rabbit.
11:47You've got Jonah Coleman the rookie also there. If everyone's healthy, I like Dobbins best.
11:52It is still probably a mix of all three because that's the NFL now.
11:57So far, I think he looks like the best player.
12:01Though, I will also admit, I don't know Jonah Coleman from a hole in the ground.
12:06And R.J. Harvey's a second-year player and they can get better.
12:10So, let's see how this injury goes and see what they keep saying about these guys and their rotation the rest of the year.
12:18You can also, of course, find the almanac, as you can each and every year, at harrisfootball.com.
12:24Today's kickoff. Okay, on today's show, it's the swing list.
12:27We do it every year. A fun topic. Players who have the potential to swing leagues because of their upsides and their downsides.
12:35Not necessarily acid reflux guys. I have some players on my list who I absolutely feel pretty good about taking.
12:42But I also do understand that they're going to require an investment and that their range of outcomes is wider than maybe
12:49I would love given what I'll have to pay.
12:52They have fantasy football main character energy, you might say.
12:55Emailer Daniel Wade says, quote, End quote. Indeed. Indeed.
12:58Good point. And to help me with the swing players, our old friend Brandon Funston from The Athletic will join the show.
13:06I think it'll be really fun. I thank you again so much for listening today.
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14:17Today's guest. Oh, get to hear that song. Means I get to talk to Brandon Funston from The Athletic.
14:23He is, he makes the whole thing work over there.
14:27Well, makes part of it work certainly over there.
14:30If you're interested in fantasy football, of course we endorse The Athletic.
14:34We love Jake Seeley. Now Andy Behrens does some work over there occasionally.
14:38And the puppet master is Brandon Funston. Hello, Brandon.
14:41Hello. It's like deja vu all over again. Yes.
14:44You're back. I'm back. Yes. Andy Behrens. More Behrens.
14:47More Behrens everywhere. So, yeah. Check him out on your pod, but also on The Athletic.
14:53For sure. And he'll be on tomorrow with me on the Yacht Club.
14:57And we're going to do Players Andy Loves. That'll be fun.
15:01Andy can spread some love on the show tomorrow.
15:04But for today, we're bringing you aboard. You're one of the rare guests who's been on every season of Harris football.
15:11Is that true? How big of a list is that?
15:14I haven't done it. I haven't done it. But, I mean, I think it's four or five.
15:20Okay. It's a one-hand kind of a deal. Oh, it's a one-hand kind of a deal.
15:25Yeah. Yeah. And, I mean, there's a whole story behind why that is.
15:30But, you know, there was attrition from the peak or from other times.
15:34And then just I was slow to get started.
15:37Because when you're behind the concrete wall at ESPN, you don't really know anybody else.
15:42Because you're not allowed to do any other shows.
15:45Right. You know? Yeah. So, like, I didn't know who to get.
15:50It was, you know, Twitter was much more important then in the world.
15:54And it was like whoever had a big Twitter following me, I gave a shot, you know, back then.
16:00And so, you don't feel like you had a wide net that you had created at ESPN so that when you went to your pocket.
16:09I mean. The wider net came after ESPN is what you're saying.
16:13Oh, much, much wider. Yeah, yeah. I met everybody.
16:16I'd never talked to Pat Doherty before. I'd never talked to Denny Carter.
16:20I'd never talked to Gigi Zacharison. Probably I could have had I been someone who goes to these events.
16:27Right. I just tend not to go to those events.
16:30Nothing against them. A lot of the listeners go to them.
16:34I think it's awesome. And, you know, the industry ones, I've been and they're okay.
16:39It's like I, yeah, I just don't really want.
16:42Yeah. The problem with those is you go to one or two and then you're just, you've been there and done that.
16:49Yeah. You're either getting pitched by everybody or you're feeling like you're pitching everybody.
16:54And, yeah, it's not for me. I'd rather just be by myself writing a book or something.
17:00So, no, the answer was like to start with because, you know, you hired me at Yahoo.
17:06You're the first one who ever gave me a job doing this.
17:10And so I was like, okay, well, I know him.
17:13And then, yeah, you left me after a year.
17:16I did. Less than a year. It was like seven months or something.
17:21It was so fast. I was like, dang it.
17:24We had a good thing going on here. I know.
17:27You let me go. That was very nice. I had a contract and you let me go.
17:33But, of course, I got you Andy as a result in recompense.
17:37So, like, I feel like I paid my debt.
17:40Not a bad consolation prize at all. Yeah. I mean, it is clearly a consolation prize but not a bad one.
17:47But, yeah, anyway, so you have been coming on since 2015.
17:51And you've done this list two years ago. And yet still, because you're you, when we logged in, you said, I probably did this wrong.
17:59You're going to yell at me. I think I got the gist of it.
18:04I'm just taking it as sort of lightning rods is my way of kind of looking at it.
18:10Sure. Swing players, lightning rods. In the email, a new way of saying it was like the main characters of fantasy.
18:17Yeah. Like, we expect these guys are going to be the main characters.
18:22And I personally tried not to pick a bunch of injury guys because, like, the conversation becomes, whoa, if he's not hurt, he's going to be great.
18:31And if he's hurt, he's going to suck. Like, it's, you know, it's kind of boring.
18:36If you picked a couple injuries, it doesn't matter.
18:39It's fine. In the end, these lists, as I always say, have been saying for 11, 12 seasons, 12 preseasons, you know,
18:47they're an excuse to talk about players. That's really it.
18:50It's great to have another perspective on, and your perspective is fantastic.
18:54Before we get started, though, I should mention, for anybody in the Seattle-Tacoma area, am I allowed to say this?
19:01It's too late. I'm already saying it. Am I committing you?
19:05I think, we think you're coming to the reading.
19:08Oh, yeah. That's Sunday, August 23rd. Unless, you know, circumstances intervene.
19:11You do have children and stuff, but they're pretty grown now, so they can handle it, whatever it is.
19:18Hopefully, you'll be able to drive down from your manse, from your stately manse in Seattle, and make it to Tacoma, and
19:25cheer me on for the reading there. So, if people are on the fence about coming to that particular reading, get off
19:33the fence, because you'll get to meet Brandon, too.
19:36That's right. If you come within an hour radius of where I live, I'm beholden to reach out and go meet you in person.
19:44So, you did it, and I will follow through on that.
19:48We were trying to remember the last time we saw each other in person, and, I mean, I don't – like, you
19:55reminded me that we – you used to come down to L.A.
19:59more for different gigs and stuff. And so, I guess probably, like – I mean, probably the last time was, like, 2019
20:07or something, the last time we actually saw each other in person, which is wild.
20:12Yeah, I think we had ramen really close to where you live.
20:16Something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I probably know where we went, because I still live in the same place.
20:23So, I still live aboard the same yacht. All right.
20:26Well, let's do this. Enough of my grab-ass problems.
20:29Things are great, and we're going to do swing players.
20:32It's a pointless countdown, but it's very important to do them in the right order.
20:37Who is your number five swing player for 2026?
20:41Let's go with Basial Tootin. Yeah. You're going to have to pay an expected price on him.
20:46This is a fourth-rounder who had uneven film as a rookie who has – you know, someone who's vying for backfield workload
20:54share that has a history with Liam Cohen, who could be a goal-line gremlin, could be the guy that has early downs.
21:01You've got LaQuint Allen there who could take third downs away.
21:05I mean, we're putting a lot of stock in a fourth-round second-year player who has done really nothing to guarantee that he's the man.
21:13Although, you go into most of the drafts I see, there's one or two just tootin' stands that are going to make
21:20you pay an uncomfortable price to get him. And I don't know that I'm there yet.
21:26I kind of think that this is going to be more of a backfield by committee.
21:31I mean, if you're paying inside the top 25 running backs for him, I think it's too rich for my blood.
21:38But I just think he's a player that a lot of people are buying into with what I see as – there
21:46is the upside there, and I get it, but I can see a clear downside as well.
21:52Yeah. I immediately heard the name, and I thought, oh, yeah, main character energy.
21:56Like, definitely someone that people will be really loud about over the next few weeks and be like, what?
22:03You're missing the boat. He's RB19, dude. What are you talking about?
22:07Here, look at his – again, look at his underwear Olympics stuff.
22:11And then everybody else is going to be like, I'm pretty sure he couldn't get the ball at all.
22:17I think Travis Etienne leaving Jacksonville, of course, that reads, it scans to some people who want to believe the stands, as you say, as trust in Tootin.
22:27Bringing in Chris Rodriguez is potentially a problem, although Rodriguez apparently not done too much in training camp yet.
22:33But, like, you would say, who in theory is a bigger threat to Tootin?
22:38Is it Chris Rodriguez or Travis Etienne? Like, you know, I mean, obviously.
22:42Yeah. And so, like, I see it. I don't either have him in my top 25 running backs, but I have him 28.
22:50I'm not outraged if that winds up being the cost.
22:54I would suspect because of how noisy – we call him your darn Tootin.
22:58I suspect because of how noisy his boosters are, that's going to be an ADP.
23:03We see climb, especially since he's had some good notes in training camp and Rodriguez has been mostly inactive.
23:10Where are you at on the player? I mean, like, generally – RB28.
23:14I – Okay, RB28, but, like, do you like him as a runner, as a potential lead back, or are you more
23:22– this is a complementary back in my mind?
23:25I think he's more of a complementary back. I think if he's thrust into a main role, he could be valuable for
23:32fantasy, and that's what people are kind of making a bet on, on a depth chart and laundry.
23:38We did – Andy and I did a film Futures or whatever it's called on him.
23:44We watched a ton of his tape this winter, and Barron's called him Faster Rico Dowdle, and I called him Faster Damien Pierce.
23:52Ooh, Damien Pierce, ouch. Well, faster. That's true. I mean, that would have helped Damien Pierce out a lot if he was faster.
23:59Yeah. You know, like, the issue comes down – he's definitely fast.
24:03The issue comes down to vision, and he hardly made any big plays.
24:08It's hard for a guy that fast to not make any big plays, and I think it's because he didn't see it very well.
24:16But that can change. You know, second-year player, I understand.
24:19Good conversation. Either way, good conversation. My number five is a much older player, and we probably don't have to have, like,
24:27a super long conversation about him, except to say it may not be the first time that I talk about him in
24:34August on the show, because Matthew Stafford, to me, has main character energy for this year.
24:40Oh, I don't know. He was the MVP last year, and yet every time I bring him up, people go, Chris, you're
24:47not going to believe where Matthew Stafford's going. You're going to be so mad when you see where Matthew Stafford's going.
24:54And, you know, I'm not really looking at ADP now.
24:58I kind of don't believe in it, but, you know, people are saying he's not even a fantasy starter.
25:04I'm in the top five among quarterbacks. I don't get it.
25:08I don't understand. I guess what I'm saying is there's a chance he's a flag player because he'll come so cheap that I'll just be like, awesome.
25:17I guess this is the Aaron Rodgers from back-to-back years where people just didn't believe in him, and he kept winning MVPs.
25:24Yeah, you know, Andy actually just wrote his latest piece for the Athletic just went up.
25:30It was about this. It's like this is the, you know, the odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl, the team
25:37that's expected to win the most, that has probably the highest offensive, you know, projections, who has the number one or number
25:45two fantasy wide receiver, and also Devontae Adams is, you know, in the top 20, and you put all the, you know,
25:52the surrounding elements together, and yet there's Matt Stafford sitting at QB 15.
25:57It doesn't make any sense. And so it makes – That's the first time I've heard that.
26:02Well, yeah, that's about where he's going. But you're right.
26:06Like, he's not going as a starting quarterback in a lot of leagues, and Eric was just, you know, putting up insane
26:13numbers last year, and there's regression potential that still puts him easily in the top 12.
26:19So, you know, he's just an amazing quarterback. And really the only thing that, in my mind, that can hold him back
26:26is just the fear of the injury, which is real, but, you know, they managed it last year, and if he plays
26:34a full season again, I don't see how he misses the top 10 at quarterback.
26:39Who's more likely to get injured? Matthew Stafford or Jaden Daniels?
26:42Yeah. Like, you know, there's no question. At least Matthew Stafford stays in the pocket and, you know, and it's like, I'm
26:50going to get rid of the ball quickly here, and, you know, he keeps himself out of his harm's way as much as possible.
26:58He can't say the same thing for Jaden Daniels.
27:01Right. Utterly foolish. Of course, 46 passing touchdowns? It's not going to happen.
27:05I know it's not going to happen, but I think 33 is.
27:09And guess what? That's easily a fantasy starter. Yeah, I am.
27:13You know, I do not. I intentionally do not look at ADP, and so this is actually Utah.
27:19I mean, I don't mind you telling me, but, like, I'm really glad I brought him up because I did not know
27:27that quarterback 15, I assumed it would be, like, 12 or something.
27:31Yeah, it's just outside. I mean, depending on where you're looking, but you're seeing him, like, 13 to 16 pretty regularly.
27:38Yeah. I'm doing – I'll do ADP next week.
27:41So I think, like, Tuesday of next week, finally I'll dig in and be like – You literally will just look at ADP for the first time.
27:50Are you telling me that? That's what you do?
27:53I have not looked at ADP. That's interesting. I noticed that you haven't, but just by going through your almanac, it's like,
28:01oh, wow, you're so far off ADP on that, but I love it.
28:05That's what I love about your almanac. Like, it's just completely unbiased, un – you know, it's just there's no preconceived notions going into it.
28:13You just write it as you see it, and it's good to have that fresh take instead of the, you know, kind
28:21of everybody falling in line perspective that you see year in and year out.
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29:37We are back with Brandon. We are talking about swing players for 2026.
29:42Brandon was giving me compliments, which we all hopefully took a moment, just bent over and caught our breath.
29:48Who's number four on your list of swing players, Brandon?
29:51Let's go with Luther Burden. I figured one of us would have to bring him up.
29:57He's just, again, this is water cooler hype. Buzz.
30:00Because I'm not sure that Luther Burden is the right Chicago receiver to get all the accolades and all the preseason steam, but so that's what he is.
30:09Is he the wide receiver 21, which is kind of where he settled in on the ADP, or is that, again, like
30:17a basial tootin, you're paying the expectant price for somebody who hasn't done anything for a full season.
30:23Wish casting, basically. It's wish casting, absolutely. I kind of see, I like Luther Burden.
30:28I can easily see him being wide receiver 21.
30:31I could also see him being wide receiver 33.
30:34I could see Roma Dunze being the guy here.
30:37But, you know, in this offense, and if Caleb Williams even takes another step forward, I mean, he could be much better than wide receiver 21.
30:46It's not, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.
30:50He could be a top 15 fantasy wide receiver.
30:53So I think there's some range of outcomes on him.
30:56I'm generally not, in the early drafts that I've done, I'm not the biggest Luther Burden fan in the room, and so
31:04I don't know that I'll get a lot of him.
31:07I think I'll get a lot more Roma Dunze as the summer winds down.
31:12But I don't have anything against Luther Burden. And I think he's got the potential to be a very good player.
31:19Yeah, he's interesting. He, again, definitely hasn't done it.
31:22Couldn't win the third receiver job out of his rookie training camp, no question.
31:27The thing that we talked about on Monday's show, off the top was the injury.
31:32And I have to imagine that puts a little bit of a roadblock on Luther Burden.
31:37Like, maybe not. I mean, because again, the people who love the young players or the second year players, they don't let, they don't stop for roadblocks.
31:47But like, he's not going to be in training camp.
31:50He's got a groin injury that's like in a race to make week one.
31:55How is that? How is, go ahead. No, I think you're absolutely right.
31:59I mean, people will just see the reporting that, oh, he's expected to be ready for week one.
32:05But that's a soft tissue injury in preseason. And you don't wish that on any of your players.
32:11Like, if it's a hamstring or groin, that's not like, okay, we just did the three, four weeks and we should be all good now.
32:20Like, those are the, you know, the notoriously recurring kind of injuries that you would not want your fantasy players starting out the season dealing with.
32:29A hundred percent. Like, again, I feel like the right way to think about this stuff is always, is like expected value, percent chance of each outcome.
32:38And Luther Burden just acquired some 11.7% chance of a groin injury that lasts the entire season.
32:43How does that not lower his expected value? Like, it just, that's how you have to think about this stuff.
32:50Absolutely. Um, so yeah, he almost, I guess, you know, for, for, for, for, it's an interesting guy to have brought up
32:58because it's an interesting confluence of a hype guy and an injury guy.
33:02Yeah. He's, he's real fast. He's fun as hell.
33:05He's really quick twitch. He's really fun with the ball in his hand.
33:10When he gets the ball in his hand, like he doesn't have very good hands from what I could see.
33:16And, and you know, like he's pretty small and I, but I don't know if you've heard this, Brandon, he's the Amon Ross St.
33:24Brown and Ben Johnson's offense. Yes. Right. Exactly. I heard that once.
33:28Yeah. It's stuck with me now. Yeah. All right.
33:32My number four is a player near and dear to your heart.
33:36I do think he's got main character energy and he's going to go in the first round.
33:41I think he should go in the first round.
33:44I'm not criticizing him, but Jackson Smith and Jigba has never done it before until last year.
33:50And so, you know, he's going to be surrounded in your wide receiver options.
33:55Very, very high by players who have multiple years of having done it before.
34:00And so there's a swing, I guess like he can't swing up from where he's being drafted because rightly he's being drafted
34:07probably most places middle of the first round, but he's a swing player for me in that.
34:13Yeah, I've definitely like, I, I, I did a little thing for the YouTube channel where I realized that Amon Ross St.
34:20Brown has finished as the number three receiver in fantasy three years in a row.
34:25And the two guys ahead of him, each of the three years have been different each of the three years.
34:32So like CD lamb had one great year and otherwise he's not been all that amazing.
34:38And so what if JSN, you know, just had one amazing, everything came together year.
34:43And as soon as I don't expect this to happen, but I think sort of one of the main stories, the storylines
34:50of the season is, is JSN one of those guys?
34:54Is he, uh, I guess you'd say at this point, Jamar Chase is the only one.
34:59I mean, Puka, but Puka gets hurt and Jefferson, you would have said that last year, but not so much.
35:06Like we're really running out of guys. Like one big story for me is if you take that chance on a quote
35:13unquote one year wonder who, I mean, buddy, there was no bigger booster than me before last year.
35:19Like I was so in and reap the rewards.
35:22So I'm not trying to say I doubt it, but, but it is a big question.
35:28I've been wrong before. I've, I've watched CJ Stroud's rookie year and thought he was really great.
35:33I've watched, you know, I, I, I've definitely been, you know, I can, I can get seduced.
35:39I don't think I have been, but a big, a big old story will be all right.
35:45Every time the Seahawks walk into a town, that defense's first mission will be stopped JSN.
35:50And if they can, then he's going to do a merely good season.
35:55Yeah. I think, and I think this is JSN is a Chris Harris player though, because when you turn on the game,
36:02when you turn on the game film, like there's no way you, you're poking too many holes in his game.
36:09Like he's just, he's just elite. Yeah. So it comes down to what you just, just said is can other defenses take
36:17him away effectively, you know, and Seattle doesn't have a way to, to, you know, to make them pay in a big way.
36:24So, um, the jury's out of that, but I get what you're saying.
36:29It's basically like, he just had a huge career year and you're kind of having to pay for another one.
36:35And, and, and I think he's going to do it again, but it is a big, for me, it is a big
36:43swing moment to be in a draft, to be like, I mean, personally, I would like one of those three, four, however
36:50many you like running backs and then Jamar chase.
36:53And then I go, Oh boy, you know, I'm picking seven here.
36:57Am I really taking a guy who's done this once?
37:01Well, the answer is probably good. Yeah. I was just going to say like, you're sitting there and you are going, you're
37:08chasing for like, how much better was JSN than, and then Amon Ross St.
37:13Brown last year? He was better, but it wasn't like out of this world better, but you just know Amon Ross St.
37:21Brown puts those numbers up year in and year out at this point.
37:25So you take those because you know, it's, they're safe and you're going to get them or are you taking JSN chasing
37:32what probably isn't a whole lot left of a ceiling, you know, for him to advance.
37:38So, and there's probably more. No, but if he does it again, right.
37:42If, if like Chase, he just keeps doing it every year and you just go, this is so safe.
37:49This is so awesome. This is like super elite production.
37:52Plus I don't have any downside. Like, you know, Amon Ross problem, quote unquote problem.
37:57He's fricking amazing is it's, he better score touchdowns.
38:00You know, he, I think he did. Yeah. Was it nine games last year with fewer than 80 yards or 60 yards?
38:08I think it was, was the number like, but, but that's built in.
38:12He does score touchdowns. He's awesome at it. They want him to score.
38:16You know, so I'm not like criticizing him, but JSN, I think JSN had 18 catches on balls of 20 plus area yards.
38:24And I'm on, I had four, like, I'm sorry.
38:27That guy with 18 has more ups, you know, like that's why I'm picking him.
38:32But a hundred percent acknowledge that if I come out of a draft and JSN was my first pick, I'm going to
38:40feel okay, but I'm going to have a little pit in my stomach going like, oh, I really hope it wasn't a one year deal.
38:48Yeah. Well, I saw him go not in a, I saw him go ninth in a, in a single QB in Jake, Jake's flex drafts last, last weekend.
38:58And he went ninth and I was like, wow, that's, I haven't seen that.
39:02I mean, I can understand you. Yeah. It's late.
39:06It's like, I feel like he's top six no matter what, but yeah, some people disagree.
39:11All right. How about your number three? So I went with two guys that so far that getting a lot of buzz
39:18and I'm a little bit pushing back on it.
39:21I think this guy is not getting any buzz and I love him and I just love the fit and that's DJ more going to Buffalo.
39:30I think he's 29 years old now. This is very reminiscent of when Stefan Diggs went kind of sort of later in
39:38his career to Buffalo, had four straight amazing seasons with Josh Allen.
39:42I like the similarities and style between the two.
39:45I think the fit is like one of the, like Josh Allen is ability to buy time.
39:51DJ more, his ability to find open pockets with that time.
39:54I just, I think it's just going to be great.
39:58I think there's, you know, I looked at Diggs.
40:01He had, I think four straight years of a hundred catches, averaged about 1300 receiving yards and was like eight to 10 touchdowns every year.
40:09I think it's very conceivable. DJ more can put up those kinds of numbers.
40:14And right now you're not really being asked to pay for anything close to that in draft.
40:20So I, they've had nothing at wide receiver the last couple of years.
40:24And this is just like, I've always liked DJ more.
40:28And I just love that he landed here. So I don't know if you heard it, even though we're recording and it's
40:35not live, but the entire possum nation just groaned at you because everybody knows how much I love DJ more.
40:42The little badass, we call him. That's his nickname because he's a little badass.
40:46He is. And I don't know if you saw his illustration in the Almanac.
40:51Did you see the little picture of him? No.
40:54I read it. He's in a bilge. Yeah. Yeah.
40:57If you look at the wide receiver, I can't, I think it's in the wide receiver header, but it's in one of the headers, the chapter headers.
41:06He's, he's in a bills uniform and he's going through like a, like a beer pong table.
41:12Cause let's face it. That's what he would do.
41:15Um, yeah, I, I think he has that swing notion to him too, though.
41:20Let's face it. Even though you're excited. I mean, the, I like hearing your takes on these guys, but you know, the
41:27most important thing here is we're picking guys who have that say it a million ways, you know, like wide range of outcomes, uh, main character energy.
41:37They, they are going to represent a significant chunk of the story of fantasy this season.
41:42And of course, DJ Moore's one of them because there's going to be the reason his ADP is going to be lower
41:49than you and I would take him is because people lived through last year and it was horrible and he kind of
41:57wasn't hurt and he was part of a good offense and other players made plays and somehow he just, I mean, he seemed to earn the coach's wrath.
42:06I mean, he really seemed to kind of like, I mean, they traded him like they didn't want him anymore.
42:13Like very clearly he, he kind of wore his welcome there.
42:17Um, I'm with you stylistically. I wrote about that in the Almanac.
42:21Like you dream up the player who will keep alive on a route when Josh Allen's waiting 10 seconds and it's DJ Moore.
42:29Yeah. It just seems like it should be so perfect.
42:32Um, I, it's a great, it's a great, like I know I'm going to wind up being higher cause I always am.
42:40The question is always how much, but, um, he definitely is a swing player for this year.
42:45Yeah. Yeah. All right. Uh, my number three. So Andy last week on the yacht club, uh, we did a topic that
42:53was, um, players who could lose their job by week one and his number one player on the list is my swing player here.
43:01It's cam Scadaboo. Um, obviously Andy has strong feelings about cam Scadaboo that he's, you know, maybe not even going to be
43:08the unquestioned starter by the time we get to week one.
43:12I don't necessarily feel that way. I don't know that.
43:16I feel like the way people are talking about him, like I'm so low on him or anything.
43:22I mean, there is the worry about just stylistic problems and injuries.
43:26I don't want to overweigh that because running back is a dangerous job and you know, they all can get hurt.
43:33They're all, you know, and the way he got hurt actually was his leg, not his head.
43:39So like any, you know, he leads with his head.
43:42That's the big worry. But you know, anybody could have gotten a leg injury.
43:47It was gross. Um, another, I mean, you know, playing in New York and being the, the new stud running back for
43:54the giants already gives you main character energy. And this kid obviously acts like a buffoon and tries to be a cow catcher with his head.
44:03We call him the particle accelerator. Uh, you know, I'm, I, I, if we wake up and he's the RB seven, of course, I understand how it happened.
44:12It's just so the path, the path is very obvious.
44:16He, Mike all starts his way to an incredible year, but you know, Mike all started only had the one year.
44:23So I also, of course, of course can see the downside too.
44:27Yeah. Um, well, Peyton Hillis, um, there you go.
44:30But look, listen, if there, if there was a team, if we had to pick a team that kind of fit this
44:38category, I think it's the New York giants. Cause you got scatterbow, you got Jackson dart, you got Malik neighbors.
44:44These are all like, you know, people that are, that have wild swings and potential outcomes.
44:50And, um, I thought about, thought about going giants.
44:53I just didn't know which one to pick. And I felt like, Oh, we can just throw them all in there and talk about them all.
45:02But, uh, I get, I get the scatterbow thing.
45:05I think the same thing, like I said, could be said about Jackson dart, um, and Malik neighbor.
45:11So the giants are, I think a fascinating team from a fantasy standpoint.
45:15Yeah. I'm, um, I'm going to be out on dart.
45:19Everybody knows that I did not like that tape at all.
45:22He is much more of a, of a fade for me, but the other two guys, I get it.
45:29The other two guys are, they have that swing possibility when your league, lose your league kind of thing.
45:35Uh, how about your number two? My number two is O'Marion Hampton.
45:39My number two is O'Marion Hampton. Nice. Had to be.
45:43I mean, I think he's the, he might be the poster guy for this.
45:47Um, and you know, he is getting a lot of love from some people.
45:52Um, but you know, how dynamic is he? Like other than like, I, I, the passing game sort of saved him last
45:59year from what we saw on fantasy and also like the New York giants and the Dallas Cowboys defenses.
46:06Cause those are like his two big games. And, um, most running backs had good games against those guys.
46:12Um, and it was weird. He had a ton of, he had a ton of utility in the passing game.
46:19I don't know if that sticks. So we'll see if the offensive line's better.
46:24And Justin Herbert's not, not looking, you know, to lean on the, on the running back in the passing game as much.
46:31Got more time to throw. Uh, you know, there's a lot of, a lot of great numbers when Joe Alts in there for Justin Herbert.
46:40So I don't know if we'll see as much, uh, utility in the passing game from Hampton, but you know, this is,
46:47people love the Mike McDaniel, um, signing. They love the offensive line being better.
46:52They think this is going to be a team on the rise and O'Marion Hampton's just automatically like this, you know, the
46:59lead bell cow guy there, but Oh, by the way, Keith Mitchell's there.
47:04Um, you know, Kimani Vidal. And I think I just saw like McDaniel saying, sorry, fantasy managers, but this is going to
47:11often be a three headed monster basically. I mean, to, to sort of, you know, not, not exact quote there, but that's basically what he alluded to.
47:20So like, this may not be a true featured guy like everybody who was drafting him inside the running back top 10 assumes he will be.
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48:31Okay. We're back with Brandon and we have mutually selected Omarion Hampton because we've known each other for 20 plus years.
48:38Somehow osmosis our way to Omarion Hampton as our number two swing player for 2026.
48:43Um, yeah, you just mentioned his ADP being in the top 10 running backs and I did not know that.
48:50Uh, and again, I don't, I don't care about spoilers.
48:54We're a week away from like really diving in, but, but yeah, at that, at that price, it's a fade for me at that price.
49:02I'm like, I'm out. Um, and so like maybe my answer is a little different than him being a swing player, but then again, I get it.
49:11I understand what can go right. Big fast guy.
49:14Not sure he has any wiggle at all, but like big fast guy, understand how it goes the way it goes, you know?
49:22Yeah. Um, I just, I don't know that anybody proclaiming Omarion Hampton as a top 10 running back has seen him play
49:30because I don't think he's bad or anything, but, and plus you, you, you hinted at it, um, before we went to
49:37break, like that became a completely different offense after a month, you know, they lose both tackles and it just becomes an unworkable situation.
49:45So I don't even know how useful the tape is, but still you have to watch it.
49:51And you know, it's not like, can I, can I say Tyler Algier?
49:55Hmm. Can I, can I say like these? Algier's not as fast though, right?
50:00But similar, similar in style, but, um, a faster Algier.
50:03Yeah. I mean, who are the 220 pound guys with really stiff hips who run well, but not like, I mean, he's
50:11not Saquon Hampton isn't, you know, like name like, like those guys are like Raheem Mostert.
50:16Yeah. Like I, I, they're more, they're more, they're Tevin Coleman, you know, they're, they're not exciting players to me because I
50:24mean, I'll say even though he's not 220 pounds, I think Travion Henderson has some of that, even though I think Travion
50:31can change directions in a way that I don't think Hampton can.
50:35And, um, yeah, I, this is an, oh, this is a pretty good player and probably a starter in an NFL backfield.
50:43And like I say, ad infinitum, uh, every NFL backfield is a platoon.
50:47It just is. There's no, I guess Derek Henry's not in one.
50:51Saquon Barkley's not in one. Christian McCaffrey's not in one.
50:55I mean, you know, Jonathan Taylor, like there's four or five guys, but like Hampton's not one of them.
51:01Right. No one's ranking him in the top five.
51:04So like, you know, I'm not going to punish him because Mike McDaniel says that his scat backs are going to play some.
51:12Cause of course they are. They all play some.
51:15Um, but does Hampton rise to the level of, you know, just trust me when the rubber meets the road, he's the, you know, not really.
51:24At least not yet. Um, and I guess he makes sense as a swing player though, because he didn't get to put
51:31down a ton of tape with his tackles there and it's probably a more exciting offense scheme wise.
51:37And he's was a first year player who got hurt.
51:41And so he could show new things that I didn't get to see yet.
51:45And suddenly he's RB three and I go, oops, I eat it, you know, but that's, that's an argument for the upside.
51:53But I just think if he's a top 10, nobody's really making the argument for the downside.
51:59Yeah, exactly. And you, you mentioned it in your writeup.
52:02Mike McDaniel does have, does have his love for speed.
52:05And you know, that was when Raheem Mostert was out there with, with Achan a couple of years ago.
52:12I mean, who knows? We might see a lot more Keaton Mitchell, uh, than anybody who drafts Hampton would want to see.
52:19I mean, I think I can't remember. I'm not looking at the almanac, but you can quote me or not quote me.
52:27I believe I said like, no matter how fast you think O'Marion Hampton is, you have to trust me that Keith Mitchell is significantly faster.
52:35And he's also very small and injury prone. So I can't tell you he's a reason to stay away from O'Marion Hampton,
52:43but I'm just saying like there is someone else who does that job, you know, of running real fast.
52:49Uh, well, that's funny that we both wound up with Hampton at number two.
52:54Uh, who do you have as your number one swing player for 2026?
52:58Yeah, I kind of just, I guess I could put these in order of how they're sort of going off the draft board.
53:06So I just went with the highest guy that I have my questions about.
53:11I was a guy that was, was like a Mon Ross St.
53:15Brown was, there was never questions about him until last year.
53:19And that was Justin Jefferson. And, and so he was, I don't know, he was like in the mid twenties at wide
53:26receiver last year in terms of production. JJ McCarthy was terrible.
53:30And everybody's like, well, it's going to be Kyler Murray this year.
53:34So we're just going to throw him back at like wide receiver seven.
53:38And I'm like, what? Let's just pump the brakes on that.
53:42Like we're going to move them all the way back to wide receiver seven.
53:47Like the Kyler Murray I know is not, uh, the kind of, not the kind of quarterback that would jive well with
53:54Justin Jefferson playing on schedule, you know, three step drops and hitting Justin Jefferson on a crossing route or like on, on
54:02timing plays like Kyler Murray has a terrible track record of elevating wide receiver performance.
54:07The best he ever did was Deandre Hopkins when Hopkins went there in 2022.
54:11But like there's, there's just not a lot of great fancy wide receiver performances at Arizona in the Kyler Murray era.
54:18Um, and now we're talking late career Kyler Murray, who Arizona basically let walk out of the building.
54:25And, um, and so they're paying him 40, $50 million to not.
54:29Yes, exactly. So like, I, I do agree that Justin Jefferson will be better.
54:33I still think he's great, you know, in a vacuum, but you know, it takes two, it takes two to play the
54:41wide receiver game in fantasy and takes a decent quarterback.
54:44And I don't know that he has one. And I'm, I'm more like, you know, I'm, I'm kind of like, I'm a
54:52few, I'm a few ADP spots below. Um, he's, he's just outside my wide receiver top 10.
54:57So I'm down a little bit on him compared to the industry.
55:02I have him seven. Um, and I'm like six, probably PPR seven standard, six PPR.
55:07Um, so I guess you're telling me that I'm right around where people are.
55:11I'm not going to take him in the first round.
55:15Yeah. So he's definitely a second round pick to me.
55:18If he goes in the first, there's too much Kyler fear there, but he's a wonderful candidate for this list because once
55:26again, I think the story of fantasy this year.
55:29There has to include what happens to Justin Jefferson bouncing back from just the worst thing we've ever seen.
55:35And we're all rooting for it. I mean, I, I don't like really great historic players to have speed bumps in the
55:42middle of their careers because of elements around them.
55:46I always like to see the best players be able to maximize their potential.
55:50And I want to see how they net out in their career numbers and all that.
55:56It's fun that way, but it's, I hate to throw the asterisk in because you have such a lousy quarterback that it
56:03just blew up a year, you know, and I don't want to see it happen again.
56:09He had 15 end zone targets last year. I think that was third among receivers.
56:14Two. And I'll say he later in the year, he dropped a few like in the same game and that is not the quarterback's fault.
56:22But yes, I mean, obviously at some point he had just lost the will to live.
56:28Um, he's yeah, it's a good candidate. Um, probably not too much more needs to be said.
56:33I'm with you that stylistically it's maybe not the greatest fit.
56:37I probably could have said that in starker terms in the almanac.
56:41The only thing I'll say is he at least will be getting NFL quality quarterbacking.
56:46Right. It will be better than JJ McCarthy, who is probably not a starter, at least until his Daniel Jones second act,
56:54you know, that he is not right. A starter.
56:57Um, so yeah, I mean, I'm it's, it's somewhat of a bet on talent.
57:01If you were asking me to line up the two most talented receivers, it's chase and Jefferson, but I'm not ranking Jefferson that high again.
57:10Um, the problem is just the receipt. There was the story of the receivers around him is just as dirty.
57:17Like there's just, it's wide receiver one in the infinite sadness.
57:20Like there's just not a lot to distinguish anybody beyond like the fourth guy on the list.
57:26Yeah. It's always amazing when you, when you throw out the chase and Jefferson thing and just thinking that those guys were on the same team in college.
57:36Same team with Joe Burrell, with Joe Burrell. Did they win?
57:39I was wondering. I think they, I think it worked out well for him.
57:44Yeah. Worked okay. Burrell had like 60 touchdown passes or something like that.
57:49Yeah. So my number one is two guys, but I'll make it be one guy cause I don't want to cheat too badly.
57:56I'll make it be Bernie Pickens. Um, actually that's not true.
58:00If Bernie Pickens shows up, I know exactly what's going to happen.
58:04My actual pick is George Pickens. Bernie is his cousin who doesn't have a head wound.
58:10And so he acts like a normal person and plays great.
58:13Uh, but then every so often George decides to show up and, uh, you know, throws a wrench into things.
58:20But this seemed to me as, since I know both of these receivers are going to be drafted in the top, probably as wide receiver ones.
58:29I'm going to guess maybe they're the only teammates that are going to be drafted as wide receiver ones.
58:35Um, I, I'm also going to guess, you can tell me if I'm wrong.
58:40Lamb is probably still going ahead of Pickens, but there are probably going to be people out there who are like, why?
58:47What, what makes you think that? I mean, I kind of understand it.
58:52I said earlier in the show, like CD Lambs had one historic year.
58:56It was awesome. Otherwise he hasn't been great. He's been very good.
59:00There's always just been something wrong with CD Lambs.
59:03Something always happens. He gets hurt. I mean, last year he gets hurt on a pitch out as a running back.
59:10It's a high ankle sprain. This is a month.
59:14It was a great call by Brian Schottenheimer. Um, you know, he comes back.
59:18They, they're the two of them are puking in a casino in Vegas and get suspended for a quarter.
59:25And then, you know, late in the year, Lamb goes on a crazy streak of drops that are horrible.
59:31And then Pickens loses his mind, decides not to try in like two or three games.
59:37Um, there's a lot of drama there. And you can correct me if I'm, my memory is wrong.
59:43I can't come up with too many times when we, when we took a season where two receivers were awesome for the
59:50same team and decided, all right, it's time to put Tyreek Hill and Jalen, Jalen Waddell.
59:56It's time to put Jamar Chase and T Higgins time to put AJ Brown, Devante Smith, both in the top 10 or 12 or whatever.
60:04Cause by golly, they both can do it. It almost never happens twice.
60:08Um, it strikes me that probably you have to pick a favorite.
60:12I think I'm going to pick Lamb over Pickens, but, um, I get it and I might have it flipped the other way.
60:20And that offense should be relatively prolific again, I guess, insofar as we can predict these things.
60:26And I'll just say, you know, I, I might miss out.
60:30They might be great. They also might be a disaster and, uh, get your popcorn.
60:35Yeah. It's tough to take somebody in the top 10 at wider receiver.
60:39And you're right. He is, he's number 10 right now who is, and the numbers when they were both on the field
60:47did favor Lamb in terms of opportunity share. And like, it's hard to take the number two receiver as a top 10 receiver overall.
60:55Like he just, you don't love that. I like the, I like, you know, the, the alphas that, um, are clear alphas
61:02when you're, when you're drafting that high and most everybody else that you're going to take in that area is clearly the
61:10number one, but then you get to, to pit to Dallas and yeah, these are, it's not, it's not an obvious discrepancy
61:17between Lamb and Pickens, but, um, but yeah, but getting Pickens at number 10, I want to see what feels like, ah,
61:25I'm getting, you know, I've got a little headwind there because it's not the, the true number one for the team.
61:32So, um, as far as you know, but like, as far as I honest, yeah, there were games when Lamb came back
61:39from injury where Pickens was very clearly still featured and you go, all right, well maybe Lamb was still hurt.
61:46Or maybe that was the game where he was throwing up at the, in the casino.
61:51Um, or maybe that was the game where he was like inconsolable on the sideline because he dropped it, drop on the end zone.
62:00And, and Pickens went crazy after that. You know, there certainly were games where, well, the nice thing also is this is
62:07a team that's going to throw a lot. They don't have a, they don't have a huge, you know, they're not spreading the ball around a lot.
62:16It's this consolidation of targets to these guys. And so even if one's, you know, slightly behind the other in terms of,
62:24um, who the guy is, it's still a pretty big pie to be playing with.
62:29Sure. I mean, I have Pickens 13 and I don't, I don't want to have Pickens 13, but I just, once again, I look at, okay, cool.
62:38So, so it's Ted McMillan. Okay, cool. So it's, um, you know, Jamison Williams.
62:43Okay. Awesome. So it's Devante Adams. Like I'm out of guys.
62:46I'm, I go, okay, I guess I'll just take Pickens.
62:50I have, I have a live ahead of him.
62:53I have Zay Flowers ahead of him. Um, Devante Smith ahead of him.
62:57I'm looking to lower him a little bit. Cause I, I think there's so much knucklehead in there, but I also acknowledge
63:05that, I mean, CDM wasn't a slot player last year, really.
63:08So a lot of that security stuff was going to Ryan Flournoy and yeah, I mean, if they're both contesting for outside
63:16routes, I think I give Lamb the benefit of the doubt, but I think anyone who says they're positive what the plan is, is a charlatan.
63:25I don't think they do. They, I, I think the NFL reinvents itself every single year and I, I can't tell you
63:32for sure that in week one, CDL is going to have more targets than George Pickens.
63:37I can't tell you for sure that in September CDL is going to have more targets than George Pickens.
63:44I, I think it's, it might be pretty close and that it, that's why this conversation is relevant because he's a dangerous player.
63:52For sure. What were you going to say? I interrupted you.
63:55Were you, I heard you trying to interrupt me.
63:58No, I was, I was, I was listening to you and, uh, I didn't really have a, I was just going to
64:06say it's, it's whether they're, one has more targets than the other.
64:10I just go back to the fact that they should both have enough to feel good about in fantasy should be, I
64:17mean, healthy amount of targets for both. I guess that's right.
64:21I mean, things change a lot. They definitely are talking up Ryan Flournoy.
64:26I mean, they have a good offensive line. Javante Williams just got a big contract.
64:31Like, uh, you know, I, everything changes from year to year.
64:34This time last year, if we were having this conversation, we would not have had George Pickens as the wide receiver 13 because the pie was so big.
64:44And like, I don't think it has to stay big by definition and that, you know, but, but by the same token,
64:51I'm not disagreeing with you because I haven't ranked 13th.
64:55I'm just saying it's not a done deal. It's not signed, sealed and delivered.
64:59You know, we're going to build up this, this mind palace and decide we know what everybody's offense looks like.
65:06And then one game in, someone's going to throw a sledgehammer at it.
65:11And you know, suddenly everything we thought we knew.
65:14So, and that's why these guys are swing players because we think we know these teams and their plans and their scenarios.
65:21And yet we can see the wild swings that these guys can give us, uh, fun lists and a little overlap with Omari and Hampton.
65:30Um, thank you for doing it. Thank you for being my friend for so long and for coming aboard the show.
65:37And it would be lovely if folks would check out all things athletic fantasy football where Brandon is of course the puppet master of Andy Barron's.
65:45Make sure he knows that I said that. Uh, what a pleasure to have you on my friend.
65:52And I can't wait to see you in person at the reading at the mule tavern in Tacoma, Washington.
65:58Just, I think 12, 12 mere days from today.
66:01Right on. I can't wait. I appreciate you not scoffing at any of my picks today.
66:06I feel like, uh, I, I won in that regard and, uh, we even had a crossover player, which was nice, but
66:14yeah, I look forward to look forward to catching up more in 12 days and that should be a lot of fun.
66:21It should be a lot of fun. I hope if you're in the area, you will join us.
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67:20It's time to announce today's winners. We've got two of them.
67:24Uh, I'm not sure which is the grand prize, but we'll announce the signed book first.
67:29So I'm going to get in touch with this person and say, Hey, which of my previous books would you like signed?
67:37Is that somewhat of self aggrandizing prize? Maybe a little bit, but, uh, we'll do our best here to also make a connection.
67:45Josh Edwards. I assume you've already gotten an email from me, but, uh, congratulations.
67:49The signed book is yours. And the, is it a, is it a bigger prize?
67:55I don't know. But the zoom session with me, which I'm committed to doing a bunch of these, uh, and they're really fun.
68:02I did one over the weekend with our first zoom winner.
68:06This winner is Jared Henry. And so Jared, by now, maybe you haven't gotten an email from me by the time you've
68:14listened, or maybe you have, but either way you're in and we'll pick a time.
68:19We'll figure it out. Uh, we've got, I'll do, I'll do drawings, uh, tomorrow.
68:23Sure. What the heck on the yacht club? Absolutely.
68:26And then, um, also on Thursday, doing a drawing every day in August for the kind people who are pre-ordering my book.
68:34And the big one, the big one will come on Friday because as I mentioned, cousin Josh and I will mock draft
68:41with you on the YouTube channel on, uh, we're going to announce it on Friday.
68:46That's going to happen on Monday evening. So, uh, stay tuned for that.
68:51Go to Harris football.com, go to pound foolish. You can get entered and, uh, and bump up those numbers for cumulative press.
68:58So coming up tomorrow, I mentioned it briefly with Brandon at the very beginning there, but on the yacht club, uh, Andy's players he loves.
69:07These are, I guess, kind of like his film room heroes, but I'm just going to call it something else.
69:13Uh, he's going to come up with five players that he loves and maybe that's makes them interesting for fantasy, but not necessarily.
69:21I'll also, we'll do some thoughts about these joint practices and maybe a few other things as well.
69:27A little stinky in the poo possibly. And then we'll all be back here on Thursday.
69:33That's another big show because on Thursday, Jamie Eisenberg, as is to his tradition is joining the show and Jamie and I
69:40are going to do post hype sleepers. So you get to hear that walk up music for sure.
69:46Should be pretty fun until then. Thanks again so much for listening.
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