0:00It's the Harris Football Podcast with your host, Christopher Harris.
0:03Everybody welcome in. My name is Chris. This is a show about sports, the Huey Lewis and the News album, Sports.
0:10Hi there everyone. Thank you so much for listening today.
0:13A quick shout out to Bruce Jay who also sent me a lovely email about listening to the audiobook of Pound Foolish.
0:21As more people get to the end of the book and tell me that they enjoyed the story and the solution to
0:28the serial killer mystery and the overall statement about the NFL, that really does warm my heart.
0:33Thank you so very much for that. Less warm.
0:36The Green Bay Packers playoff hopes? It's a long season.
0:40I don't really know that for sure, but why don't we begin today's show talking about the Thursday night game, the Falcons
0:47get Michael Penix back and suddenly probably the worst looking team from week two, scoring seven points, getting their doors blown off at home against Carolina.
0:55Suddenly they go into Green Bay and eviscerate the Packers.
0:59See what I mean when I say the season is a series of ridiculously small sample sizes and we're just positive about
1:06something until one more game happens and then suddenly we are not so positive anymore.
1:11I'll get to the Packers, though I'm not sure how interesting that'll be.
1:15Sort of like picking through your dog's vomit to see if they barfed up the pills you were trying to give them.
1:22But let's begin the show talking about the Falcons didn't start great.
1:26Pennix came out, chucked an interception on Atlanta's fourth play from scrimmage.
1:30It was easy to imagine, uh-oh, this is just who they are.
1:34Cooper Rush or no Cooper Rush. Right around midfield, at a shotgun on a second and ten, Pennix gets pressure in his face, makes an awful decision.
1:43The coverage is not disguised, it is right in front of him.
1:47No confusion. I think he sees the three Green Bay defenders directly in the middle of the field, ten yards away.
1:54But he fires it in there to the immortal Jahan Dotson anyway, just trying to make a hero play and it's an easy interception.
2:01In the first quarter, the left tackle Jake Matthews was getting worked a little bit, which was concerning because he really got run over against the Panthers.
2:10There was a third and eleven late first quarter and Drake London got his first target, which was not close.
2:17But the Packers hit Pennix in the head for a personal foul, giving them a first down.
2:22And then, Bajon Robinson began the process of changing that game by himself.
2:27Very next play, he goes around the left edge for a 55-yard run.
2:31And it's so funny to me that Herbstreit, first of all, spends an inordinate, uncomfortable amount of time in that game just
2:38being completely dug in on the undeniable fact that Bajon Robinson is simply the most kind player in the league.
2:45As if that were a quantifiable fact. And Herbstreet knows it for sure.
2:49Just the biggest kind of suck-up loser announcer there is.
2:52But also funny that he and Al kept talking about Bajon.
2:56He's one of one. I'm not sure there's ever been a running back like this.
3:01When the analog to me plays in the league right now, Saquon Barkley.
3:05That's what Robinson looks like to me. Be wonderful if Saquon could look like Saquon anymore.
3:10We might unfortunately be beyond that with him. We don't know yet.
3:14But that 55-yard run I'm talking about. Patience, power, speed.
3:17Saquon-esque to me. The Falcons pay off that drive with two Bijan runs in tight.
3:22That ties the score at seven. So then we were left to hope that Drake London could get going.
3:28And you probably know that it turned out great.
3:31But it was frustrating in the first half. London's first catch came on a third-end long give-up screen for a punt.
3:38And he was obviously frustrated. Right before that, he had run kind of a clear-out route for Dotson, who was the main target on that play.
3:47And you could see London like giving up and not running fast and kind of like throwing his head up in the
3:54air and, you know, sighing real heavy. Not good.
3:57The next drive, which led to a field goal where both Bajon and Bryan Robinson were rocking.
4:02There were two more screens to London. Nothing exciting.
4:05Then finally late second quarter, we got an intermediate play-action post to London, which was a nice rip-it-in-there throw by Penix.
4:12Then on a third and one in Packer territory in the two-minute drill, a play-action deep out to London.
4:18Makes sense that play-action would work because of the run game for Atlanta.
4:23I think you know, really dominated. In the Almanac, in Jordan Love's profile, I wrote, Green Bay is playing the hope card
4:30up and down their roster, hoping that unproven young players can take the place of departed veterans.
4:35That holds true on Love's offensive line for sure.
4:38And it also holds true on the defense. And yeah, me again.
4:42The Packers in this game just got pushed around on both lines.
4:46Bajon had 114 rush yards in the first half.
4:49It's a little frustrating that before halftime he gets stuffed near the goal line and...
4:54Here comes Hooper Dump of Hall of Fame! Here comes Hooper!
4:58It's your favorite sitcom. The once and future Falcon King, Austin Hooper, back to steal a touchdown.
5:03This is 17-7 at the half. London, 5-54 at the half.
5:07It was obviously going to get a lot better.
5:10All credit to Bajon. Stats are one thing. This film is very flattering to him as a talent.
5:16It's also kind of flattering to the bathtub on wheels Brian Robinson, who would come in and kind of wreck the Packers occasionally too.
5:24Albeit, he's never going to look as good because he's not going to really change direction very much.
5:29But give Brian Robinson a crease and he will pound you into submission.
5:34Mid-third quarter London gets a slant down to the red zone, but it's Brian Robinson who steals the touchdown.
5:40And early fourth quarter, a sideline shot to London and he gets loose.
5:44There is nobody. It's kind of a double move, a little bit of a blown coverage.
5:49Nobody between him and an 84-yard touchdown, which would have tasted great.
5:53And it's what we've said. You know, in the Almanac, London got a B- grade for speed and he got run down from behind fast.
6:01That was fast. That was like a dad kind of jogging and letting his young child catch up to him.
6:08I'm not sure London is all the way in full game shape yet because he looked totally gassed even in the middle of running.
6:16But nine for 194 and a big sigh of relief.
6:19I think we will find as the season winds around the weeks that Michael Penix is not some unimpeachable superstar.
6:26Some nights we'll have to react more to pressure.
6:29But last night he just didn't get that much pressure except for that first interception.
6:34His line held up well. Play action rocked because of course it did.
6:38The run game rocked and it turned into a laugher.
6:41We'll do some Green Bay talk after the break.
6:44It's not going to be as nice. So how about this?
6:48Today's mixtape. I promised I was going to get to more of them.
6:52I have so many funny ones and I definitely want you to keep sending them.
6:57Hey Harris at HarrisFootball.com. But if I don't play them, that's going to discourage you from sending them.
7:03I get way more than I can play anyway.
7:06But I love them all. Thank you so much for sending them.
7:10They always brighten my day. This one, I'm not kidding, is from February.
7:14I'm humiliated that I didn't get to it till now.
7:17It's kind of not on topic. It's apropos of nothing because it's about Travis Hunter of all people.
7:23It's from Matt Grant. He's in Canada. It is truly one of the crazy, like the production is amazing on this thing, Matt.
7:30I'm going to play this for Cousin Josh since he gets name dropped in the song.
7:36The question asked by this mixtape is what exactly is Travis Hunter?
7:40And we really still don't know even all these months later.
7:43Incredible job, Matt. Let's play it. Here we go.
7:46What, what, what, what, what? Passes locking down. Today's kickoff.
7:49How good was that? What am I, an idiot?
7:52I didn't play that for months. What a moron.
7:55On today's show, hard act to follow. I'll do my best.
7:59I will get to the Green Bay side of the equation from Thursday night and talk about where we go from here with them.
8:07I'll do my best to update the injury news that we dipped into on Thursday morning show.
8:12And then he's back. I just mentioned him. It's the Prince of Darkness.
8:17Cousin Josh has returned from two weeks in Europe to grace us with his first regular season appearance of 2026.
8:23And Josh is going to count down a simple list, five things that are blowing his mind so far in 2026.
8:30I think it'll be a blast. This show is so stupid, but I nevertheless thank you so much for all your loyalty and for being here today.
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10:00Uh, but the Packers. Yeah. Also kind of mean not too happy coming out of an embarrassing home loss could easily be Oh, and three.
10:08I guess the silver lining is they didn't blow a lead, but no, it is dire.
10:13The first drive was gross. Jordan Love had Christian Watson on a third down deep out blew the throw that he should make and they punt.
10:22The second drive was kind of looking like it wouldn't go anywhere either with Love making a brutal overthrow of Matthew Golden,
10:29but on third down, let's admit that might have been maybe the first really remarkable play of Matthew Golden's career.
10:36It was great. It was a third down where Love takes a deep shot down the right side.
10:41One on one to Golden. I'm going to guess the throw was to the wrong side.
10:47Golden looked over his, his left shoulder, his inside shoulder, tried to track the ball, realized it was actually a bomb to his outside shoulder.
10:55His right shoulder turned his head around to the other side without losing the ball and caught it like three times juggled it.
11:02But that is really hard to do. It's a kind of catch.
11:06You don't often see the player follow through on it went for 45 yards.
11:11It momentarily got Green Bay going. We file that away talent wise for Golden really good play.
11:16They get a pretty good screen gain to Marshawn Lloyd.
11:20You had Sky Moore lining up in the backfield a little bit and then inside the five Lloyd is still in.
11:27He gains one yard for a first down. Then they go play action and Christian Watson catches a short touchdown and Green Bay got the lead.
11:35And that was the best it would get all night because I mean, now everybody has seen it.
11:41It made me giggle watching social media last night as the so-called experts who don't really watch the games were coming to
11:48the realization now that they were kind of being forced to watch a national TV game that you know, those of us
11:55who do watch the games have been fretting to you out loud for a couple weeks.
12:01Oh, the Packers are kind of ass. Oh, their offensive line kind of stinks.
12:05Yeah. Welcome to the party pal. It surely does.
12:08They're missing the right tackle for the entire season.
12:11The left guard has been in and out of the lineup already and nobody's positive that he's great.
12:17This might just be who they are on their O-line and it's very bad.
12:22Also, though, clearly made worse by the lack of difference making players at running back early second quarter.
12:27There's a play where Caleb Johnson looks like he's going to get loose.
12:32He's basically one on one against a defensive back.
12:35It's probably a safety. All he has to do is just like any kind of escape vector just jump to the right
12:42a little bit and he just can't do it.
12:45He just runs into the guy and gets tackled.
12:48There just isn't a lot of fear that these running backs are going to make you pay for throwing everything you've got
12:55at Jordan Love and the Falcons certainly did that just like the Vikings and Jets have done so far.
13:01Love threw it 53 times compared to eight running back runs.
13:05They tried to turn the screen game into that prototypical extension of the run game and Caleb Johnson did catch a ball
13:12that was like way over his head. I didn't think the big guy had that in him, but they just don't have enough talent at running back.
13:21You know, they thought they would. They were planning on it.
13:24They didn't see the Josh Jacobs thing coming and missing Jacobs and Micah Parsons is a legit excuse, but we are where
13:32we are third quarter in the red zone. It was Lloyd's turn to look like a slug, a big hole.
13:38And this time it's a corner. It's Mike Hughes, who is like my size, who Lloyd certainly outweighs by 30 pounds at least.
13:46Make a move, dude. Just do something, dude. And Lloyd pretty much just falls down.
13:51And then on that drive on fourth and one, the last gasp of a competitive game.
13:56The Packers go for it. Love rolls out. The cameras did a good job of showing it just it faked out nobody.
14:03They're not going to bite. They're just they're going to cover and nobody's open and love throws the ball away and it's done.
14:1110 minutes to go in the fourth quarter. The game was over where upon Green Bay did launch a good drive and
14:18Matthew Golden scored his first career regular season touchdown going to the post with a ball thrown a little bit behind him.
14:25Golden's second nice adjustment on a ball of the night, but absolutely Basora time.
14:29I think the logic some folks are going to give you in some quarters if you listen to other shows, which, of course, we advise against.
14:38They're going to give you the classic. Well, they're going to be playing from behind fire up this passing game.
14:45Maybe I once again want to exclaim to those people.
14:48Buddy, if all it took was losing big in games, the 2025 New York Jets should have been a font of fantasy points.
14:55They ran 394 plays trailing by two touchdowns or more last year.
14:59124 plays more than any other team. The Titans were second.
15:03Sure, I remember how great the Titans passing game was for my fantasy team last year.
15:08We want our players to be on good offenses, not bad offenses.
15:12Can it work out for Watson and or Golden with this particular setup in a given week with an offense that can't run?
15:20Sure. Yes, in any given week it can work out, but I do not think I want to live that way because
15:27defenses are going to start to get wise. Next week the Packers go to Tampa while the Falcons play next Monday night against the Saints.
15:35Injury news. Hey, just my weekly reminder. There's no such thing as an injury expert.
15:40And if someone is calling themselves that you don't have to pay attention to them.
15:45We will all find out about the injury guys when the NFL teams tell us, but certainly a big week as they
15:52all are to decide who will and won't play.
15:55And here's what I think we know so far.
15:58Despite mixed messages on what the heck happened to him in the fourth quarter of week two, Caleb Williams definitely not playing Monday night against the Eagles.
16:07So far, it seems Tyson Bajant won't play either.
16:10So it's probably Case Keenum, which of course he's been around a long time.
16:14Can he keep some of the skill players in the Bears offense rolling?
16:18Possible, but the receivers have to go lower in your estimation.
16:22The commanders will be without Jaden Daniels against the Seahawks.
16:25Marcus Mariota will play, which is not great. And there's a story going around on Friday morning that the commanders aren't even
16:32considering IR for Jaden Daniels and he definitely doesn't need surgery.
16:36And maybe that's all true, but you're looking at a multi-week absence for sure.
16:41Sounds like so far Sam Donald will be back for the Seahawks in that same game, but we will see.
16:47And Jameis Winston will play for Jackson Dart only until and if he's so bad that they have to find someone else.
16:54But it can work. Winston is hyper aggressive to the point of frontal lobe inactivity.
16:59But you can't sit Malik Nabors or Isaiah Likely until we see how bad it really is in a full game.
17:06It's a good matchup against the Titans, but we'll report back, of course.
17:10At running back, we still don't know the full pictures.
17:14But if you check the ranks at harrisfootball.com since the last time I talked with you, I have gotten Saquon Barkley back into the ranks.
17:22And I put both J.K. Dobbins and R.J. Harvey back in and took Jonah Coleman out for the moment, which makes the
17:29week two waiver wire look not great. But we can only work with the information they give us at the time.
17:36I will keep updating those ranks as we get more information about what Friday's practices look like.
17:42Jadarian Price still don't really know anything as of my recording this this morning.
17:46He practiced on a limited basis Thursday that would seem to potentially bode well for his chest that became a shoulder.
17:53As of my recording, I have not slotted him in the ranks yet, but that might be coming later today.
17:59Kyle Monongai has played through his sprained knee so far, but hasn't practiced yet this week.
18:05We will see. Jonathan Brooks is on IR already with a core muscle injury.
18:09He'll miss probably at least half the season. Rico Dowdle was out and then in and then out against the Patriots last
18:17week, was in a walking boot this week. But I suppose still a chance he could play against the Bengals.
18:23Aaron Jones is okay. I think Tony Pollard is okay.
18:26Travis Etienne was added midweek to the injury list because of his hamstring.
18:31I don't really know that much about it as of right now.
18:35Of course, we'll keep an eye on it. Suddenly, Alvin Kamara could wind up being the main dude in that backfield, which
18:42suddenly is attached to an offense that we're pretty interested in.
18:45The triumvirate of Puka Nakua, Nico Collins and Zay Flowers, also known as Ouch.
18:50They all seem likely to repeat their week two absences and miss week three.
18:54None of them have practiced yet. In fact, Sean McVay, you've probably heard, has been saying like pessimistic things about Puka not making a lot of progress.
19:03Nico Collins was a midweek injury and the reporters there immediately said this is a multi-week absence.
19:09And Zay Flowers, you know, not a major injury.
19:12That's the new thing, right? Not a major injury, but yeah, major enough to probably miss multiple games.
19:18Alec Pierce, unsurprisingly put on IR. I say unsurprisingly because if you were watching that national TV game Sunday night, you saw what that looked like.
19:26Real doubt, frankly, that Alec Pierce is back anytime soon and maybe at all this year.
19:31Better news, Lad McConkie practicing in full. We know he played last week, but on a limited basis and they clearly didn't want to get him hit.
19:40He has a cracked rib, but I don't know how you don't use him in this game against Buffalo.
19:46In that same game, DJ Moore apparently did some stuff on Thursday in practice wearing a non-contact jersey, which could mean he'll turn out okay.
19:55I will check in on him later on Friday.
19:58I maintain that if DJ Moore is active in this game, you probably just swallow and play him.
20:03Jalen Coker got a limited tag in practice, but he finished that game against Atlanta.
20:08Carolina so far doesn't seem like he's in too much danger of missing week three.
20:13Of course, if he has a bad game, then we instantly go to, uh-oh, was this like a little blip because Carolina found themselves in positive situations?
20:22Or did Jalen Coker do worse because of his ankle?
20:25And we're not going to know that and the beat will go on.
20:30Brock Bowers, the Raiders are certainly talking like he's going to play in week three.
20:35Hopefully, we'll have real clarity about that so you can know way in advance.
20:39And Dallas Goddard has a sprained MCL, will miss multiple weeks.
20:43Zach Ertz comes off the street, could be a short-term solution.
20:46They certainly trust him there, but he is a lot slower than the last time he played in Philly.
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21:58I just want to hear all about cocktails in Europe.
22:01It's so great to have him back. It brightened my entire week knowing that it was coming up on Friday.
22:07He's back in the country. It's Cousin Josh. Find him on Instagram at DetectiveFish, F-I-S-C-H.
22:12Did you post anything permanent on Instagram about your grand Italian vacation or was it all like fleeting reals?
22:19It's stories. I like to give people a taste of what's going on, but I want to leave them wanting more.
22:25So it's like, it's funny you said that. I posted some amazing pics, some great shirtless photos, some great pics of Jord,
22:33like wonderful food, the attire we had on, dressed to the, I don't know if it's the nines or the tens these
22:40days, but you say, Chris, it was just, I mean, it was wonderful.
22:44Now I probably, I got to do some like vacation permanent, like stories and stuff that stay there.
22:50I mean, it's, it's a, um, something that's on my, uh, new year's resolution for next year.
22:56I've just done so many amazing trips. And I say that again with my chest popped out, very obnoxious New Yorker, but,
23:03uh, look, it was amazing to get away. You can't see me now.
23:07I got a nice tint on my face, just like tans.
23:11The tans good. Just olives, olive skin right now.
23:14It's wonderful, Chris. That's great. So did you, I, the first text I got from you from Italy was like, believe it or not, I found good martinis.
23:23Yeah, it was amazing. The, uh, the first place made me a martini when I was in Apulia, um, in the Southeast part of Italy.
23:31And I watched him do this with the vermouth.
23:34He, it just, I was like, Whoa, where'd you learn this man?
23:38Um, it's just, I've never seen that. I'm like, he's like, no, I'll make you a good martini dude.
23:44And I watched him stir it and everything like that.
23:47The driver muth was perfect. The ratios were right.
23:50He's like, do you want this? Uh, like, uh, uh, do you want lemon?
23:55Like with the twists, like had it. And I'm like, this is wild.
23:59I was waiting to get like a pick a pickle in here or something, but no, I, for five straight nights, Jordan
24:06and I, um, went and got martinis at the same place.
24:10And then we would go out to dinner and it was just, I couldn't believe it.
24:15She was even having martinis, but it was, uh, it was very delightful.
24:19So, um, thumbs up for the Italians. Um, they won me over with their drinking culture.
24:25Did you get a caviar bump? I didn't do the caviar bump because they would have been like, excuse me.
24:31Like that was, that was kind of like something where if I said that they make, you can now leave this place and don't come back tomorrow.
24:40I think that, I think that hasn't made its rounds around the rest of the world yet.
24:45I think that's just an obnoxious New York thing.
24:48Probably for the best. Um, you don't know this because I didn't tell you before we hit the button, but you got,
24:56um, a new walk up song that includes caviar a bump that I wanted to use cocktail smoker today, but next week
25:03we'll give you caviar a bump because it is good.
25:06It is good. So I can't wait to give you that.
25:10Um, and of course you missed week one. You didn't even get to see the football.
25:15It was the middle of the night. You were texting me like, what the hell happened?
25:20What's this? What's that? And I was like, man, listen to the show.
25:24And then you did to your credit. You listen to the show.
25:28I'm not going to text you an hour's worth of podcast, but you listened.
25:33Um, speaking of, um, stories, stories are the ones on Instagram that last, right?
25:37No stories are there for 24 hours. Oh, your actual posts are the ones that last.
25:43So like I usually go with stories when I'm away, but I probably need to put together some permanent posts.
25:49Because you saw, uh, I don't think you were there.
25:53You might've been there live. I don't know, but you saw me and rain Wilson doing the talking about the book.
25:59I sure did. I set my alarm to watch that.
26:03I think it was like 10 30 Italy time.
26:06Um, so nice. Yeah, it was great, man. It was great, but it, it, I don't, whatever it is, he saved it as a permanent thing.
26:14So it's still there. So that's good. I don't understand how Instagram works all that well.
26:19That's why I need, I still need an intern.
26:22I need some high school student who's, who listens to the show.
26:26You, you think I'm kidding. Email me. Hey, Harris at Harris football.com.
26:30Help me out. Help me figure this stuff out.
26:33It would be for the best. All right. Well, you have returned.
26:37You have watched week two. You of course caught up with the podcast for week one and you, you know, saw your fantasy teams and stuff.
26:46And so we are giving you a topic today, which is five things that are blowing your mind about the NFL after two weeks.
26:53We've done this topic in the past. I don't believe we did it last year, but it's fun.
26:59Cause I don't think anybody can really tell you that something didn't blow your mind and it'll be a good launching point for questions and conversations going forward.
27:08Are you ready for this? Yeah, I'm ready for this.
27:12I say it reluctantly cause it's my number five, but you're allowed to have your mind blown.
27:17All right. Then what is your number five thing that's blowing your mind so far?
27:22Look, it's been talked to death and I really wanted to just sit here and say, you know, the Minnesota Vikings, Chris,
27:29a two and oh, like I wanted to do that, but I'd be lying to myself and all these incredible fans that
27:37come on the show to listen to me. It's the LA charges for me.
27:41Number five. And I will tell you why. Before I head to Italy, people are talking about, yo man, what do I pick for survivor?
27:49Paul, I'm like, dude, just advanced to week two.
27:52You get the chargers. I'm laying nine and a half points.
27:56I probably have six to seven different bets involving Justin Herbert as MVP.
28:00I got the chargers and Superbowl matchups with the NFC teams.
28:04Like Chris, the amount of futures I have like linked with them to make the playoffs.
28:09I'm just like, well, we know what the chiefs are.
28:12I've seen that act before, you know? And like, yeah, they'll probably either get the wildcard or win the division with Denver.
28:19But like, you know, it's obviously two and oh, they set them up really perfect to begin the season.
28:26Chris, when I woke up in Italy and I saw that score, I was like, am I on peyote?
28:32Like I, I couldn't even believe. And I was texting like, did someone get hurt?
28:37And they're like, ah, you know, lad towards the end of the game, but that's not why the cards, you know, went to work on them.
28:45So then I doubled down this past week and I looked.
28:49So you love this. I was going to text you because I know what you would have said anyway.
28:55But I was like, do I use Stafford or Herbert in my home league?
29:00And I'm like, you know, I'm like, they're real close.
29:03Once Niku is ruled out, I'm like, I'm just going to take the safe points.
29:08It's Herbert home, Vegas. It didn't affect me winning.
29:11But Chris, I watched it with my own eyes this past week.
29:15I don't know what else to do. And I know we talk about it typically leading into the playoffs with Herbert and he does his stuff.
29:23This is just at another level to me with the offseason signing of McDaniel.
29:28I mean, Harbaugh is just sitting there on the sideline confused.
29:31But this is just I don't know what to say.
29:35And of course, you know, the next seven games there.
29:38This is going to be something else. I don't obviously don't feel great with them going into Buffalo, but you know, it's the NFL.
29:46So that, of course, they'll go in there and we'll go, wait, what?
29:50Yeah, I kind of think that'll happen. In some ways, I kind of think it'll happen.
29:55Like, I think that's seven or something. And I'm like, I think I don't think I would take Buffalo.
30:01I'll tell you that if they lay down and lose 49 to nothing in this game, like Harbaugh could get fired like
30:09within a few weeks if that happens. Yeah, what a mess.
30:12What a total mess. And it's funny, like the only fantasy bright spot has been Omar Anhampton and me and every single
30:19guest who's come on to talk about them so far has crapped all over Omar Anhampton and said this is fake.
30:26He looks bad. He's kind of fallen into the end zone a couple of times.
30:31He's fumbling. It's it's it's a wasteland. It just again goes to show you that man, our jobs just has to be
30:38to try to make perceived situation matter as little as possible.
30:42We can't completely remove it. I recognize that we can't we we think about it.
30:47We think all McDaniels got fix this thing. Finally, a grown up a professional and we just do not know.
30:53But also two weeks is two weeks like we certainly this is the baseline, but like it can change and it can get better.
31:01So what an absolute mess. Do you have exposure fantasy wise to Chargers teams to Chargers players rather?
31:07I mean my home league. I have I have Herbert and McConkie in that one and I took Herbert as like QB seven.
31:15I took him over Hertz and a few other people.
31:18I mean I have Stafford in that. You know, I'm 2 and 0 in that league.
31:23Luckily, but yeah, I don't feel great about starting Herbert.
31:27These days. No, I talked about it with Andy on the Wednesday show.
31:31You know, QB 13 this week and that feels high, but you're just like at some point.
31:36I don't think Buffalo's defense has looked very good and they know something's wrong.
31:41So aren't they going to try other things? And you know, the offensive line was such a bad disaster in week one.
31:48But in week two, I like I didn't even really think he got that much pressure.
31:53He got he did. He did it. But it was much more off the ends.
31:58It was Max Crosby is much more off the ends than it was and that's like supposed to be the strength.
32:05That's where Sean Slater Joe Alt Joe Alt got dog walked by Max Crosby in that game.
32:11I mean once again though, are we really going to let ourselves do the thing where we explain we we give excuses
32:18for an entire season for Justin Herbert because of an offensive line.
32:22I'm personally done with that. No, I'm not. I'm done giving excuses.
32:26I will say and I watched that especially at the end.
32:29I mean even after playing horrible if Hampton doesn't fumble that ball.
32:33I mean they still have a decent chance to win the game.
32:37I mean they're in midfield. So it's like they played pretty bad again.
32:41I don't think the cure for that is going into Buffalo, but I again it's the NFL and I could see myself on this next week going.
32:50Hey, but wasn't that crazy when they went in there and beat the bills?
32:55Yeah, yeah, it is possible. All right. You were doing five things that are blowing your mind.
33:00What's number four on your list? I wrote Chiefs revamped offense like this is another one and you and I talked about
33:08it and I was higher obviously on Walker than you, but we didn't.
33:12Yeah, I was even hesitant because like over the last couple of seasons one even before my homes got hurt.
33:18He did not look good throwing the ball down the field.
33:22Kelsey looked like he was on his last legs.
33:25It's very well documented what I think of Rashi Rice.
33:28I'm not even sure if Andy Reid cared about football at the end of last year and I'm just like alright so Walker will come in here.
33:37He'll get the vibe. He'll be a good player, but like this looks like an elite offense and I don't want to
33:44go too crazy because again, it's two weeks, but they were home dogs in that first Denver game.
33:50That was another one where I woke up the next morning and I kind of looked at the score and I went huh?
33:58And I was just like that was another one.
34:01I'm like wait Denver's getting two and a half on the road.
34:05I'll take those points like 31 to 10 and then you know they hang up 33 in the Colts.
34:11I'm not a Colts fan, but again back-to-back weeks scoring over 30 points.
34:15The offense looks rejuvenated. I mean Kelsey looks fresh.
34:18I can tell you this marriage does crazy things to a man Chris.
34:22Before I met George, I was wearing eight inch inseams.
34:25Now I got my thighs out, but this guy looks fresh and I'm just I'm wowed like I don't know.
34:32It's just I know that you are also surprised especially with kind of the way they're going downfield and they look like
34:39a fluid offense, you know this week versus the Dolphins.
34:42I mean the odds are they're three and oh, so yeah.
34:46Yeah looks. Are we ready to call them a wagon?
34:49And it was like a multifarious wagon almost because week one it was like, oh the past it was two for 12
34:57to start that game like the pass offense didn't look good at all in week one and then week two is like, oh well never mind.
35:05They can do whatever they want apparently and I don't as I think Walker is unlocking a lot of stuff.
35:12I don't think you can play safeties back with Walker running like that and I think the Colts got burned by not
35:19by bringing a safety down into the box. No question.
35:22I look at that offensive line and I mean the center is really good.
35:27The right guard is really good. I don't think anybody else is like awesome on that offensive line anymore.
35:33And this is my way of saying I think Walker has they were absolutely right to sign him and I think he's
35:40been the reason this is all working the way it's working, which was the absolute crutch argument.
35:46Everybody gave all summer and sometimes crutches are real because it just he is that we've always loved him.
35:52He's the Pattinson Robert Pattinson of running backs. We love him.
35:55I mean the question is can he stay healthy.
35:58I think Emma Johnson has also looked good, but I think if it's anybody but Ken Walker in the backfield, I go.
36:06Well, let's see. I'd like to see it. But man, I think he's just the whole thing is different because he's been incredible.
36:13And yeah, I mean I'll take the L. I was telling you have him in your home league, right?
36:19Yeah, I took him and chase Brad in my 12 double up.
36:23Yeah, you you I said Amun Ra and like that wouldn't have been a wrong answer either, but you'll take the guy at this at the scarce position.
36:32So like yeah, you're all you're all good. All right.
36:36How about number three on this list? This is a hat tip to you and I wrote JSN everything proof.
36:42You know, hat tip to you. I remember looking at your rankings heading into my draft and I had I had him
36:49for after Puka and ASB and you had him too.
36:53I believe it went chase JSN and I'm sitting here being like, you know, I don't know Chris like Puka is really
37:00unbelievable and like ASB is incredibly consistent. And if there's something that feels wrong to me, it's that it's still Sam Darnold
37:07and like the efficiencies from last year. And again, I still had him as an end of round one pick like I love JSN.
37:15I had him last year, but it was it felt crazy to me to think he could he could sustain his unstoppability if that's even a word.
37:24And these first two weeks, I don't even let me ask you this Chris.
37:28Is there someone you would trade JSN for other than Jameer Gibbs right now?
37:33You know, it's close. I'd say those those top running backs.
37:36It is just such a different position, but like I might not.
37:40Yeah, I might not. And he's done it with drew lock.
37:44Like if I would have told you, hey, guess what?
37:47Sam Darnold's gonna go down at the beginning of a game versus the Patriots who are a at least the plus defense
37:54right with an elite DB in Gonzalez. And guess what?
37:58Two straight weeks with drew lock. The guy's got four touchdowns, 277 yards and 17 catches.
38:03I mean, that double move he put in the cornerback at the beginning of that Cardinals game.
38:09I probably have watched that clip on X or Twitter 13 times.
38:12I can't get enough of that head fake and just goodbye.
38:16And it's like, again, you know, it's coming. It's not like you're sitting here going, oh, well, they got Rashid Shahid.
38:23And it's such an amazing backfield led by a bunch of, you know, banged up running backs or Darien Price, whatever.
38:30It's just, you know, I cannot believe that he continues to operate with this type of efficiency.
38:35And you know, it's coming. It's just I have nothing.
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39:43We are back with Josh and Josh. We are going to resume our weekly habit, which is to get a pick on DraftKings from you.
39:51DraftKings is now available in all 50 states, one app, all the football, pretty fun.
39:56So you can do like prediction markets in California.
39:59You can, you know, on one game, you can make picks and stuff.
40:03And so I just want to say in your absence, your reputation grew.
40:08Because at least last year was a horrible year for your picks, but at least you got some right.
40:14Jim McCormick week one. What do you take the Cowboys on the road against the Giants?
40:19His favorites, they lose outright. Week two, Jeff Erickson comes on.
40:23He takes the Buccaneers at home against the Browns and gives the points.
40:27They lose outright. Right. So, I mean, sometimes your guys don't cover, but they don't usually lose outright when they're favorites.
40:34You just come away from these past two weeks to me, look, smelling like a rose.
40:39Ah, so this is where I give you my pick.
40:42My first one of the year, right? Let's, let's do it.
40:46I think I'm going to go against your footie pajama boys.
40:49And I'm going to take the Jacksonville Jaguars at home, giving three points.
40:54Look, I have not been impressed. And I, I know you have not either by the New England Patriots.
41:00They played a disgusting game even last week that they beat Pittsburgh on.
41:04May still does not look great. They're down AJ Brown.
41:07We'll see how that run game goes. I will say Jacksonville has done a really nice job over the last year or so stopping that run.
41:16So they're going to have to throw the ball to go ahead and beat them.
41:21That said, I think this Jacksonville offense looks really fluid.
41:24They real, they look good on both sides of the ball.
41:28I think they're one, they'd be one of my picks in the AFC to make the playoffs that I'd feel comfortable about.
41:35And I think they get it done at home.
41:38Coming off a loss last week at Denver and the Patriots coming off a win to three points.
41:44Jacksonville at home. It's brave. It's brave. It's brave.
41:47It's assuming a thing that mostly the Jags have not proven, which is like being able to hang with a good team.
41:54The one exception being the Broncos game last year.
41:57Although this, you know, you just saw this. I'm sure you saw some of that Broncos game.
42:02I watched the last week. They, they should have won that game.
42:06They, they, however, did not. Yeah, I got, I probably would be on the other side with my footy pajamas, but I
42:14probably for me, it would be a little bit of a stay away.
42:18But I get where you're coming from. It kind of is a, it's a, it's a, first of all, litmus test for May because he's hadn't played good.
42:27Also, like, I just don't think it's going to be the kind of heat.
42:32I remember Tom Brady used to go down there and just get his doors blown off because it would be 90 degrees with 90% humidity.
42:40And apparently it's going to be like 85, but not crazy humid and some cloud cover or whatever.
42:46So, but anyway, yeah, I can't wait to see it.
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43:55Varies by state. Okay, we are talking about a couple more things that have blown your mind so far.
44:01What's number two? I wrote the Josh Allen usage.
44:04And have you ever eaten crow before, Chris? Well, vegetarian, you know, so.
44:08Yeah, I know. It's been a long time for you.
44:11Five passing TDs, four rushings, guys averaging 40 a game, 79% of the offense, 100% of the team's touchdowns he's responsible, or
44:19Cook has one maybe, or did he catch it?
44:21I don't even. This is like, the only thing I could comp this to is what Nikola Jokic does in the NBA for a long time.
44:30And I think what's been really impressive about this is that he's doing this with kind of more a little bit dinged.
44:37Like, the offense is just, they're basically saying, hey man, like, you want to be wild, man.
44:43Do whatever you want to do, man. You want to just run, just keep running, get to the goal line, call your own number.
44:51Like, it just seems like they don't care what happens to him.
44:54And I'm sitting here thinking to myself, like, and again, I laughed because if you remember during the Baggie Awards, we got
45:02to LVP and I'm like, you know, I want to pick Rice, but I've talked about it forever.
45:08So I'll give my hot take and I'm like, Josh Allen, man.
45:12I'm like, 18 pick? Like, you know that that's not going to be the greatest value.
45:17Doesn't look great right now. Again, we have 15 games to go, but like, is this sustainable health-wise and just?
45:23I don't think so. I personally, I don't think it's, I don't think it's actionable.
45:28I don't think you can, you can have Josh Allen and have invested the pick in it and, and trade him away
45:35because it's just an absolute obvious, you know, if this keeps up, it'll be a record-breaking season.
45:41But I don't, I mean, everything about watching the NFL my entire life tells me the guy who does this eventually like
45:48ossifies like Cam Newton, just something happens, you know, Cam Newton had these stretches where you were like, well, this is the
45:55only guy you can have to win. And then something always happened.
45:59And except for the one, the, you know, his very early, the year they went to the Super Bowl.
46:05Because, because let's face it, he's been, you watch these games and he's been really good between the twenties.
46:12He's been really, really good. But the reason he's been good for fantasy is because he's taking, he's getting creamed and taking shots and rushing for touchdowns.
46:21He's got two rushing touchdowns apiece in the two games.
46:24And I don't know, for me, I'm scared of it, but I don't know what you can do if you've got him.
46:31No, it's like, you're not going to, I mean, what are you going to sell him for?
46:37Are you selling him for like a Lamar by low plus something?
46:40Like, I don't even know what you do with that.
46:44I think you just ride this wave, but like, I just don't, I can't, I don't know how sustainable it is.
46:51Like you said, if it continues, we're just going to get to the end of the year and go, remember that was a crazy season.
46:59And Alan did, you know, 4,200 and 40 TDs and ran in 17.
47:03Like, it's just, the only thing I thought about is like, I wasn't going to say Will Chamberlain.
47:09I wasn't around for that, but like, it reminds me of what Jokic does in the NBA, but even more extreme than that.
47:16So it's just, it's, it's blowing my mind. It reminds me of the legendary performance by Bam Adebayo.
47:22Oh yeah. That was at 82 pointer or 80, whatever it was.
47:26I just remember people making fun of it because basically like they just kept handing him the ball because it didn't matter.
47:33It's better than that. I'm going to say, I'm going to go ahead and say if you were to do 40 passing
47:41touchdowns and 17 rushing touchdowns, it may slightly eclipse one good night for Bam Adebayo.
47:46Are you proud of me that I made an NBA illusion?
47:49That was pretty cool. I mean, I knew right away once you said Bam, I'm like, wow, he's talking Miami Heat 80 pointers.
47:57This is great. I'm the best. Yeah. Like, okay.
48:00Somebody wants to give you JSN for Josh Allen.
48:03I would do that. Yep. I would figure, figure it out at quarterback.
48:07But other than that, I'm not, I'm probably, well, I, I, I think in the fishbowl, that's where I have Josh Allen.
48:14I had the one pick in the fishbowl. It's a super flex league.
48:18Of course I had dart in the fishbowl too, but guess what?
48:22I'm two and Oh, cause I have Josh Allen in the fishbowl.
48:26But you know, and I'm not going to trade him cause you don't really make trades in the fishbowl anyway, but like
48:33I'm going to ride it for as long as it works.
48:37I would be pretty, I, I think at some point.
48:40You go, okay. Week one, he, it was the Texans and he was mad about how that game went last year and it was the opener.
48:49So he, he got that thing where you're playing against the sim in a, in a video game and the sim gets mad and just goes crazy.
48:58Okay. Okay. Week two, it's a national TV game and it's the opening of their stadium and he goes crazy and the lines beat him.
49:06Uh, I don't know. I, it was like, it's, it's dumb to be giving caveats to what have been two awesome performances.
49:13There was no, there was no hidden badness in these performances.
49:17He made Keon Coleman look like a real receiver for the, against the lions last week.
49:22But I, you know, so like, I'm, I'm not saying, Oh, I think bad play is coming, but there's something circumstantial about
49:29a hundred rushing yards and four touchdowns. You know, these first two weeks that you go, come on, come on.
49:35We're not really going to put him at this kind of risk.
49:39Are we? So it is, it is pretty shocking though.
49:43I think it's a good one to bring up.
49:46And that brings us to the last thing that is blowing your mind.
49:50Number one on the list is. I just heard Panthers power.
49:53And like, here's the thing, dude, like we're now two weeks in and I'm going to give you what this reminds me of at the end.
50:02Cause I'm not fully sold, but my mind is blown that we have Bryce Young.
50:07A QB two, a player that people claimed couldn't see over his offensive lineman.
50:11We have Chuba Hubbard as RB eight, who is left for dead.
50:15The poster child of what the RB dead zone.
50:18And everyone's like, bro, you see Brooks, man. Like forget that he hasn't gained yards in five years.
50:24Like this guy's the real deal. Then you got a wide receiver seven in Coker, not even Ted McMillan.
50:30We won't even get to him. Who's also been really good.
50:34And Darren Waller is tight in eight. Like again, that's two weeks and just happened to score two TDs.
50:40But like, I had a superior at work today.
50:43I won't name names say, oh yeah, I dropped Justin Herber and picked up Bryce Young.
50:48And I'm like, okay, that's, that's extreme. But like, this gives me the vibes, Chris, of a couple of years ago.
50:55And I will laugh at myself when the saints came out of two and O.
51:00And if you recall, didn't punt in the first two weeks.
51:04Yeah. And David Carr was leading that team. You know what I did?
51:08I went, I know how this goes. Derek Carr.
51:11Derek Carr. I went ahead. I threw an MVP bet on him.
51:15I'll embarrass myself on here. I'm like, you know what?
51:18I remember years ago on the Raiders, like he was like third place.
51:22If he didn't get hurt, he had a chance of winning it.
51:26I'm like, I know how this goes. Saints figured this out.
51:30Offense is elite. Like, I'm in. And then everything went to crap.
51:34So, I think you have to look. Everybody got hurt.
51:37Do you remember who the offensive coordinator of that team was?
51:41Oh, man. Don't, oh, man. I remember it was a big name.
51:45Who was it before? It was a big name now.
51:48Wasn't a big name then. Oh. Clint Kubiak. Kubiak.
51:51Clint Kubiak. And like, things looked really good. And then everybody got hurt in week three.
51:56Remember they went to Dallas and absolutely, they didn't punt.
51:59They manhandled the Cowboys. And we're like, wait, what?
52:02So, that's a great comp. That's a great comp.
52:05Yeah. And again, look, Bears week one. That looks like to be one of the bottom defenses.
52:11I mean, I know that last week was just so much rain in Minnesota.
52:15So, I'm not counting that. But like, I don't know.
52:19It's only two weeks. I'm trying not to go crazy about it.
52:23But for me to sit here and not put that on the list would be me lying to you.
52:29And I can't ever lie to you, Chris. I really appreciate that.
52:33I lied to you before because I said I had Herbert 13.
52:37I have Herbert 12 and Bryce Young 13. And actually, yesterday on the show with Jeff, I, with Jeff Bell, I was
52:44like, who would you, you know, who would you start between Herbert and Bryce Young this week?
52:49So, I'll ask you the question. If you had Herbert and Bryce Young, your boss obviously made this decision already.
52:56Who would you start this week? I'd go Herbert still.
52:59Yeah. I mean, I'm 12 and 13. So, I wouldn't be mad at the person who decided to do the opposite.
53:06But, yeah, I still, I mean, you need to keep seeing it.
53:10That's what I said to Jeff yesterday. You know, you do need to keep seeing it.
53:15It's a lot of bad play. We did not hallucinate Bryce Young's ridiculous footwork and his sort of inability to stay in
53:23rhythm with his receivers and hit the top of his drop when they were hitting their brain.
53:28Like, there's a lot of technical stuff that goes into a good passing game.
53:33And it's timing and getting to your drop at the right pace and not pitter-pattering your feet and like 1,000 miles an hour.
53:40How many times in Bryce Young's career before this year did you watch him drop back?
53:45And it's like the Flintstones thing. And he hits the top of his drop and the receivers are still halfway down the field.
53:53They're not turned around yet. And it's been better.
53:56I will admit it's been better. And I'm sure that's like the main thing they've worked on with him.
54:02But think about how recently he was benched for Andy Dalton.
54:06I know. You know, that was pretty recent. And to have it turn around like this, like, eh, I don't really believe it.
54:13I have to admit. Sorry, Panthers fans. I have to.
54:16Like, if I had turned this list into five things you don't believe, even though it's been amazing, probably Carolina would have been on there, right?
54:25Yeah, I think, look, you asked me about the Herbert game versus Bryce Young.
54:30Bryce Young this week. At Cleveland, look at that, too.
54:33It's like, it's a road game. It's a 42 and a half.
54:37And then the other one's a 50 and a half.
54:40And you figure they're going to be playing catch up probably versus the Bills.
54:45So I think there's a little bit of stuff I'm kind of baking into that.
54:50But if he does it again, not that Cleveland is like this elite defense, but we kind of just saw them play
54:57a good game versus Baker Mayfield on the road.
55:00Like, I'd be impressed. Oh, Cleveland. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
55:03Yeah, yeah, Cleveland. But I'm saying if he does it this week, he gets the Lions in week four, which you know is going to probably be points.
55:12Like, I might start to turn a little bit.
55:15I'm not saying like, oh, if you could do it versus Cleveland.
55:19But like, I don't know. Four straight weeks to begin the season, I'd probably kind of change my tune.
55:25But 15 more weeks to go. Like, these NFL seasons are so long.
55:29And we'll look back at that in seven weeks.
55:32Remember when Bryce Young people were dropping Justin Herbert and picking him up?
55:36That's how I feel, too. I think that's probably the likeliest case.
55:40There has been a lot of circumstantial stuff around these two big performances, especially the Bears one.
55:46I mean, like you said, that's, I mean, I don't know.
55:49The Bears were okay last week. It's just that it was, I don't think it was the rain.
55:55I think Carson Wentz and, you know, just the Vikings in general.
55:59I don't know. Like, every week is more information.
56:02So much more information than we had the previous week.
56:05So, put it this way. There's a reason to watch that game now.
56:10I mean, I watch them all. But like, it's really interesting to watch Panthers at Browns this week.
56:16That is not one you would have circled three weeks ago, two weeks ago.
56:20You know, it's really interesting. I want to see what it looks like.
56:24I mean, I just said earlier in the show, we're not positive Coker's playing.
56:29I think he probably will finish the game. But like, you know, I would like to see them at full strength.
56:36Like, sure. Like, just as it grinds and as the teams themselves put down more tape, you know, then we see how defenses adjust.
56:44And Young has been pretty confusable in the past.
56:47And so, maybe he's kind of reaching that point where he's less confusable.
56:51And more games equals more information. And maybe Panthers power, as you describe it, will have more lasting power than we are suggesting.
56:58But that was a fun list. That was a good list.
57:02I think so, man. And I think, yeah. And I think, like, as far as kind of like overall surprise type stories,
57:09you got a good kind of combination of, you know, like you got the Chargers and you got, you went positive on four of them.
57:17That's pretty shocking for The Prince of Darkness. That's not my style, man.
57:22Well, you just, you're amending. It's Italy. Italy just all the sudden.
57:26Italy changed me. I came back and I'm just like, everything is going so well in life.
57:31You're so chill now. You're such a type B.
57:34That's what I always say about you now. You're so type B.
57:38All right, everybody. Well, Cousin Josh is back and he's not going anywhere.
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57:49Let him know how much you're happy that he's back.
57:53And I'm very happy that you're back, my friend.
57:56And thank you so much for doing it. Always a pleasure.
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