0:00It's the Harris Fantasy Football Podcast with your host, Christopher Harris.
0:03Everybody welcome in. My name is Chris. This is a show about all things literary, really.
0:08Hello there, everybody. Let me thank you so much for continuing to make this podcast so incredibly fun for me to make.
0:15I hope you have fun listening to it, even if it's just to forget about real stuff for an hour.
0:21It is truly my honor to get to talk to you each day.
0:25Let's start. With Eric Grote from Westchester, Pennsylvania. Hey, Harris, congrats on the book.
0:29Hope everything launches smoothly. Hey, I know you watch all the preseason games.
0:33That one dude who wrote you to put his cousin in the almanac, didn't that dude's cousin score a touchdown for the Steelers last night?
0:41Is that dude's cousin the Tunyon of the Steelers, even though there is already the original Tunyon on the Steelers?
0:47Indeed, Eric. I got a lot of emails and tweets about the actual Robert Tunyon, who played in one of the exhibition games on Thursday night.
0:55Please don't call them preseason. Please call them exhibition, because that's what they are.
0:59That's what they used to call them until Roger Goodell decided that sounded bad and people wouldn't pay for it.
1:05But anyway, yes, indeed. The true story, as Eric points out, which I didn't know until Eric pointed it out.
1:11I hope I have this right. Riley Nowakowski, who was too late for me to write him an almanac profile, because I
1:18didn't see that email until, you know, like a week and a half ago.
1:22But at least we get to mention him again on the show.
1:26The real Tunyon. Not the actual Tunyon. The real Tunyon.
1:29From last night, I was not watching. But the internet does tell me this morning that Riley Nowakowski scored a touchdown, which is awesome.
1:36Congrats to him. And there you have it. The last bit of exhibition football you'll hear me talk about, because it is worthless.
1:43My recommendation is completely ignore it. Instead, let's talk Panthers backfield, because Chuba himself, Chuba Hubbard, was declared yesterday to be week-to-week with a hamstring injury.
1:51And that is enough for me. I did lower him.
1:54He was a flag player last year. He was not on his way to being a flag player this year anyway.
2:00But this news, certainly, you have to lower him in the ranks.
2:04This, Hubbard was in the Almanac's first edition. He was RB25 and Jonathan Brooks was RB48.
2:09And I understand Andy Behrens' point with Jonathan Brooks that nobody really ever has recovered from tearing an ACL twice to become a good running back.
2:17But this injury means for me they have to get closer in the ranks.
2:21Right now, I have them back-to-back. I have Hubbard 32 and Brooks 33.
2:25Now, because I know how the world works, I'm 100% positive Jonathan Brooks is destined to go higher now than Hubbard in drafts going forward.
2:33Which might even be the right answer, but nobody knows for sure.
2:36They just like the idea that it's an unknown rookie.
2:39Or not a rookie, like a third year, but he's never played before, running back.
2:44Sometimes the market just decides not to take an injury seriously.
2:47Oh, you kidding? Luther Burden? Come on, he's going to be fine.
2:51Don't lower him at all. And then other times like this, I'm sure it will decide that Chuba Hubbard is doomed.
2:57And I'm going to be consistent, just as I said with Burden.
3:01When you get a multi-week injury in training camp, no matter who the player is, whether you're predisposed to like him, like
3:08people are predisposed to like Burden, or predisposed not to like him, like people are predisposed not to like Chuba Hubbard, you
3:14have to admit that the range of outcomes gets scarier.
3:17You have to acknowledge there's now an X percent chance that Hubbard re-injures himself right away as soon as he starts trying
3:24to run again, even if he's ready for week one.
3:27So I'm being consistent here, and just like Burden's rank went down, Hubbard's rank goes down.
3:32The other hamstring to be freshly concerned about is Jordan Tysons, the rookie running back from the Saints.
3:37A day after I did a mock draft with Jake Trowbridge on our YouTube channel, which was delightful and fun.
3:44And if you're looking for some entertainment and get a mock draft under your belt, you can check it out, youtube.com slash Harris football.
3:51In that mock draft, Jake took Jordan Tyson, and we both said, you know, we don't really know what he is, but
3:57so far it's a great sign that his health seems to have been pretty good in training camp after all those problems in the pre-draft process.
4:05Boom. Jordan Tyson shows up with an injured hamstring in Saints practice on Thursday.
4:10He left practice. So far, I don't know anything about anything.
4:13We'll see what the team says. In fact, they said, like, this is not a significant injury.
4:18They have not said he's missing multiple weeks. Let's put it that way.
4:22But it is a continuation of the hamstring injuries that caused him not to run throughout the draft process, which isn't good.
4:29I'm going to wait a day or two just to see what gets said about it and how long he'll be out.
4:35But I think we're probably heading toward lowering Jordan Tyson some in the ranks as well.
4:40And just in case today is the first day that you're rejoining the little podcast that could to start getting ready for
4:47your fantasy draft, I will catch you up to speed on the stuff.
4:51There is an almanac this summer, as was implied earlier in this introductory segment.
4:55It came out a week ago Monday. I think people are enjoying giving it a read, I hope.
5:01I've heard from a lot of you. I love hearing from you if something makes you laugh, because that's what I'm trying
5:07to do with the almanac is make you laugh.
5:10The almanac will get an update on September 4th to catch up with the stuff that we learn throughout August.
5:16We've learned some so far. Everyone who purchases the almanac also gets an update for free.
5:21And the other thing that's going on, I have a new novel coming out, and that's what Eric was referring to in his email above.
5:29I have been bribing the living heck out of the audience.
5:32I have Zoom sessions coming up with drawing winners, bribery winners.
5:35Those are going to be both today, Friday, and Saturday.
5:38Also, later in the show, I will announce the latest winner, who will get to do a mock draft with me and
5:45Cousin Josh on my YouTube channel next week. To be entered into these many drawings, I'm doing at least one every single day.
5:52All you have to do is pre-order my novel, Pound Foolish, and send me a screenshot of the receipt at heyharris at harrisfootball.com.
5:59And actually, just don't worry about it. Just go to harrisfootball.com.
6:02All the details for the almanac and the book are all there.
6:06If you currently find yourself with a budget that doesn't let you get a book, let me know.
6:12Heyharris at harrisfootball.com will take care of you. This is a purely independently released book.
6:16For the first time, I am my own publisher.
6:19So if you'd like to support independent media, if you'd like to support this insane venture, and hopefully support a pretty good book, have a look.
6:27harrisfootball.com. Today's kickoff. Okay, on today's show, it's Cousin Josh.
6:30It's a list he sometimes understands how to do.
6:33Let's see how it goes today. This is my first foray into ADP for 2026.
6:37I've only looked at the first three rounds of ADP, and Josh and I are going to go through each person in
6:44the first three rounds and discuss the risk factor for each player.
6:47We'll assign a score, 1 through 10, about how risky we think the player is.
6:52Doesn't mean we won't take them. We just acknowledge that, ooh, this guy has a scary range of possible outcomes, or this guy feels safer.
7:00I think you'll have fun, and I thank you again so much for listening today.
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7:56Trustandwill.com slash Harris. Today's guest. Don't mess around with some $10 gear.
8:00He needs high quality in a trunk. It's the eye of the swimsuit.
8:04It's the thrill of the fight. Rising up to the midpoint of our station.
8:08But don't you be surprised when he moth his wife.
8:11Tiny swim trunks. You ask Josh what theme song he wants.
8:14If you leave it up to him, he's probably going to pick the one about tiny swim trunks from my friend Josh Van Blank.
8:22And it is Cousin Josh joining us on a Friday as he normally does.
8:26You can find him on Instagram at Detective Fish, F-I-S-C-H.
8:29Josh, have you been impressed with how active I've been on Instagram lately?
8:33You have. I've been very impressed. I'm more of a story guy versus a post.
8:38But yeah, I saw you did the book unveil the other day.
8:41You've been very active. The unboxing. I was like, what's the word he used?
8:45But yeah, man, you're doing well on your social media stuff, dude.
8:49Well, thanks. I don't think I have that much more Instagram left in me.
8:53I have to admit, though, I should just throw this out there.
8:57Because last year, a friend of the show, They Might Be Giants drummer Marty Beller, who I've known for a very long
9:04time, a good friend, his son was my Instagram intern.
9:07I don't think I even told you that, did I?
9:10I don't know. I've never heard this before. Yeah.
9:13So his son Noah did an awesome job. And I will say, if there are high school students listening and you're on
9:19Insta a lot and you have ideas, if there are even college students, I mean, it seems like more a high school thing.
9:26He did it. I wrote him a college recommendation letter.
9:29So hit me up. HeyHarris at HarrisFootball.com because I really don't have time for that much Instagram throughout the season.
9:35But Noah did a great job last year. So if anybody wants to volunteer, please do.
9:40And I mean, the big news really is that we finally got you for a mock draft.
9:45Yeah, Monday. Well, I think the people will see it maybe on Tuesday.
9:49You and I are going to record it on Monday with a big contest winner.
9:54So last week we were polling the people. We were asking people, what would you like Josh's prize to be?
10:00And eventually it came around to some, I honestly don't remember who, somebody said, how about a mock draft with the two of you?
10:07And I was like, all right, if Josh will do it because he's never done a mock draft on the YouTube channel before, by golly, you agreed.
10:15So that's your contribution to the publishing empire that is creating Pound Foolish.
10:19And I am very grateful. Look, it's my pleasure.
10:22I'll go into wardrobe a little bit earlier that night, put on a nice outfit, get my makeup done, and we'll be good to go.
10:30Completely fine. I'm pumped. I think it's going to be fun.
10:33And by the end of this segment, we will announce which listener will be joining us.
10:38But for now, we're going to do something that actually you missed out on last year.
10:43You were away on vacation. Your vacation came earlier last year.
10:46So you missed out on the Risk Factor show.
10:49But I remember you liking it a lot. And I remember how many times over the past few years how people have
10:56said they really like this episode because maybe it's not the most in-depth thing on each player.
11:01But what we're going to do is go through current ADP.
11:04And that in and of itself is impossible because there is no one ADP.
11:08But we picked one. We're going to go through the first three rounds.
11:12This is my first exposure to the first three rounds of ADP.
11:16And I haven't looked beyond at all. And we're not really going to talk some...
11:21We can talk as much as you want about how outrageous it is that a player is going somewhere or not going somewhere.
11:28But the real point is for each of these 36 players, we're going to rank them 1 through 10.
11:33We're going to give them a risk factor, a risk coefficient or whatever, which means 1, we find them the least risky.
11:4010, we find them the most risky. Clearly, if we find them very, very risky, there's a chance we don't necessarily agree with the ADP as presented currently.
11:49But that's part of the conversation. It's fine. We're going to go quick on some players and not spend 10 minutes on everybody, obviously.
11:56We don't have that kind of time. But I think people like to hear just...
12:00The reason we do this is because it becomes about roster construction.
12:04It becomes about, do I really want to be taking a bunch of 8s on this scale?
12:09Or do I maybe want to... If I take the 8 in the first round, do I need to...
12:15If I have a tie between players and one guy seems way less risky to those guys, that's kind of the theory behind it.
12:22A nice, a little table center for next week where I start looking at all of ADP.
12:27Yeah, I think it's a good way to look at ADP and roster building because I think that's part of it.
12:34I don't think you could just look at every single player in a vacuum and say, hey, what do you rate this guy?
12:41Like, you have to look at it based on ADP.
12:44It's funny. As we got to... In the first half, I don't have as many high marks.
12:49I have a great analogy coming up early on.
12:52You probably know the player. We could probably have called it the blank, I won't say it yet, memorialist.
12:58And we'll get to him. But I love this because you know how much anxiety it gives me.
13:03And I will typically say to people, in the first two rounds, I am typically looking for people with those risk factors of ones and twos.
13:11Ones and twos, yeah. Look, I'm fine not having like the RB1 or the 2.
13:15Give me the RB5 or 6. I'll win my draft in rounds 3, 4, 5, 6.
13:20I just don't want the whammy where I go, come on, man.
13:24Like, my season's done. It's two weeks. I'm watching.
13:27Like, I just... I have a very low tolerance for that type of pain.
13:31All right. So we'll see how much we need to spend with each guy.
13:35There'll be somewhere... We'll give longer explanations and somewhere we become sort of self-evident.
13:40Again, Ose, this ADP that we decided to use was the half PPR live ADP on Fantasy Pros.
13:45Yeah. Correct? Yeah. Yeah. I think it's pretty... Good.
13:48Yeah. And I looked at it as of this morning and this is the first ADP I've looked at and I'm like, sure, okay.
13:55I mean, I don't really know how live it actually is, but at least it's not experts' consensus...
14:00You know, it's not a consensus rank. It is actually based on something where people are doing drafts.
14:06And it's funny, on Wednesday on the Yacht Club, Andy said something very interesting about how he was looking at...
14:12On Matthew Stafford, he was looking at expert consensus rank and it was 15 and my jaw hit the desk.
14:18Like, what? And then he said, but if you look at ADPs, the live ADPs, it's higher than that, which means like
14:25the actual drafting public is kind of pushing back against that low rank, which good for them because they should.
14:31It's deranged. So anyway, we're going to do... We're doing it based on ADP, the live button for half PPR on Fantasy Pros.
14:38So number one on that list is Jameer Gibbs.
14:41There's no David Montgomery. I don't find him particularly risky.
14:44I just, you know, there's like the Lions weren't great last year, so I won't say they're like an absolute guaranteed wagon.
14:50So I gave him a two. I gave it a one.
14:54Again, one or two, completely fine. We haven't seen him without Montgomery there, but like you said, I'm more on the Lions
15:00are probably a wagon, but it's just consecutive years as a top four running back and he's in the prime of his career.
15:07This is just... I mean, he and the next guy are the number one, number two pick, I think, in every single draft, no matter the format.
15:16Let me say that's not true though, I think.
15:18I mean, not Superflex. Superflex Josh Allen absolutely can go one.
15:22And then there are, believe me that there are people who do what we're doing right now who say a receiver should go one.
15:29Believe me when I tell you that. There are such people.
15:32We don't agree, but there are such people. So it's funny because Bajon Robinson, I guess my tiebreaker is that I made
15:39him a three instead of a two just because the quarterback is grosser.
15:43Yeah, I put him a two, but it's really low risk, Chris.
15:47I mean, even in the quarterback situation wasn't great last year, he still found a way to be what?
15:52RB3. Just a phenomenal player. Peak of his career.
15:55No risk from an injury. And I just think even if that quarterback situation is bad, which I think it will be,
16:02he's probably going to find a way to be a high-end RB1.
16:05But I'm fine with a two. You gave it a three.
16:09Of course. I mean, I think the point is maybe the reason we have Gibbs one and Bajon two is that we
16:15both thought we would give one extra point to Bajon.
16:19Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. But they're still low.
16:21Still very low. All right. Number three in the ADP, not what you and I would do.
16:26Jamar Chase. We would keep taking running backs if we were picking three, no matter the, as long as it's not super flex.
16:33You know, Jamar Chase was the ADP number one at this time last year.
16:38So let that tell you that believe me, there are people out there who will tell you to take Jamar Chase number one.
16:45Last year, I gave him a one in risk factor.
16:48This year, I'll give him a two and it's really not about him.
16:52It's that Joe Burrow thing hanging out. Yeah. So I gave him a two.
16:56I gave him a two also. You know, even with missed time last year, he somehow found a way to get the,
17:03or I should say, Burrow missing time up to 1,400, eight TDs.
17:06Just an unbelievable player. I probably, again, wouldn't take him until the middle of the first, but yeah.
17:12Right. So this is where the risk factors start to get interesting and I don't even have Puka Nakua as my wide receiver two.
17:19He's my wide receiver three. And the reason is because the risk factor is higher.
17:24So Adam Schefter has said that, like, it's very clear Schefter doesn't do this unless he's been told something.
17:29So he's been told something is brewing and I think it's probably more likely a suspension for Jacobs than it is for Puka Nakua.
17:37Nakua's alleged offenses that we know of feel minuscule by comparison to what we know with Josh Jacobs.
17:42And yet, there's also just the idea that he's the new godfather of Troll and he's constantly down, injured and yes, he
17:49usually gets up and is okay, but you know, there are times when he's not and two years ago he missed a lot of time.
17:56So I'm interested in what you gave him because I don't think there's any chance you would take Puka anywhere in the first round.
18:04I gave him a risk factor of five. I have a five.
18:07So I would consider him when you're in that double up.
18:11That's the first probably the area that I would consider him.
18:14Again, for exactly what you said, I said that to one of my buddies, Adam.
18:19I said, you know, Schefter doesn't come on and do these conversations unless it's kind of been probably leaked to him in
18:25some way and he's like, yeah, don't be, it's like, it's in play.
18:29He might not travel with the team to Australia I'm not as concerned so much with suspension.
18:34Maybe he gets a game, Chris. I don't know.
18:37It's just more of the way he plays is so, like, it's incredible to watch.
18:42But I mean, how many times do we text each other or do you text your buddy like, dude, you see that?
18:48Now he's down. He's KO. But like, from an ability perspective, just, just absolutely absurd.
18:53I mean, there's nothing he doesn't do on the field.
18:56He's got, you know, the MVP at quarterback, but he can leave at any time.
19:01We have suspensions looming. I do like he's in a contract year, but for me, it's a five because to pick him
19:07at four, I think is just a ton when there's that many guys on the board.
19:12That's just not the way I would play. I'd probably pick him in the back of the first round, probably in that 12 to 13.
19:20Right. And I'll take him earlier, but I'm not taking him at four.
19:24In a standard, he's eight for me and a PPR is six for me because there's another receiver I'm going to pick in front of him, obviously.
19:32Okay. Number five is the guy who you would have named this list for, the ADP on Christian McCaffrey, who oozes risk.
19:39There's no question about it, but the reward is awfully good and is up to the end.
19:44You know, if you're taking McCaffrey in the first round and you're taking on and it's definitely, it's where you should go.
19:50If you're taking him on, there, you should be looking at our lists in the show notes and looking for all the
19:57ones and twos that you can find or threes and fours anyway, later in drafts, because this is going to be a nail biter.
20:04I won't even say my number. What number did you give him?
20:08You know, I wavered on a nine and a 10 and I wrote down, I wrote down point break reference.
20:14Chris, you've seen point break, you know, the scene where Keanu jumps out of the plane with no parachute.
20:20Yeah. I mean, this is the ultimate rush, bro.
20:23Like this is rough. This is out the plane, no parachute.
20:26Like it's absurd. Like you're Robin Banks with presidential masks.
20:29Like when he's playing, right? You're talking about either RB one, RB two, RB three.
20:34There's no way around it. And it's amazing, right?
20:36Just the target share, the way he's used. It's like, I mean, how many games we go?
20:42Wow. He played a hundred percent of the snaps.
20:44Like, did they really need to do that? And he's got an incredible offensive mind there, but you know what happens?
20:51At some point he goes down and it happens every other season.
20:54And it's not like he's out a week when he goes down with these lower extremity injuries.
21:00It's six games. It's eight games. If you told me he was going to play 14, Chris, I'd pick them three.
21:06I wouldn't even hesitate. I probably even pick them.
21:09I'd almost consider him probably two. If you told me 14, but it's the ultimate rush, man.
21:14I mean, it's McCaffrey number five. I gave him a nine.
21:17I gave him a nine. I gave him an eight.
21:20And yet I'm just not as risk adverse as you.
21:23And at four, I would take McCaffrey at three and a PPR.
21:27I would take McCaffrey, but I would, I would know what I was doing.
21:31I would have to keep my eyes open and I'd have to be filing in some less risky players as I go,
21:38unless you want to go in all risk build, which I understand, you know, you can also do that.
21:44It just, you know, you get two guys who crash and burn.
21:47What would, what would, what would cousin Josh do with an all risk, all risk build?
21:52I mean, dude, we mentioned stress farts a week ago.
21:55I don't even think that would do it for me.
21:58I mean, just some of these nights where if a guy got hurt on a Monday night football game and those games
22:05and ET Chris at 1240, I mean, you think I'm going to sleep all those nights?
22:10Calling out of work. It's like, what happened? It's like, dude, man, did you see McCaffrey last night?
22:15They don't know what, they have no idea what the timetable is trying to find out the MRIs are.
22:21Dude, I'm not sleeping well. Chris, I still have him ranked five overall.
22:25Like, I think I would take the plunge just because look, since he's done all that plasma a year and a half
22:32or two years ago, he's coming off, uh, you know, a healthy season.
22:36Again, that doesn't mean that he's going to be healthy this year, but I think I would probably take the plunge in the middle of the first.
22:44And just the upside is so great with him, I think.
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23:46We are doing the risk factors. We got through five guys.
23:49We have 31 more guys to go. We'll go a little faster.
23:53On some of them. The six PPR, the six half PPR ADP is Jackson, Smith and Jigba.
23:58I gave him a two. I don't find him that risky.
24:02Yeah. No, minimal risk. I did write down though, like the percentage and the efficiency results were absurd.
24:07I mean, like 44% of it, but like, you know what?
24:10What does he drop to 1500 yards? Or it's just, I'm completely fine with him anywhere in the bursts.
24:16To me, the risk is Darnold and it worked last year.
24:20So I'm okay. Number seven on this list is Jonathan Taylor.
24:23And I mean, he's a, he's a feast or famine health dude.
24:27And last year he obviously was feast or I can't remember.
24:30I don't know whether it would be feast or famine.
24:33Do you have a famine for injuries? He was very good last year.
24:37Um, and he just got a new contract. What's your number on him?
24:41I bumped it to four and this is coming from a guy who had him last year and won with him.
24:47But like, I have written down Colts, bad vibes.
24:50Like, you know, after, after Jones left and like the way that he was like a low end too.
24:56And I know it's a small sample size, but like you said before last year, it was like 11 games, 10 games, 14 games, that workload.
25:04So I still think there's that risk there. Um, it gives me kind of 2025 Saquon vibes.
25:09Like from last year. He's a five for me, Taylor.
25:12I have a five. So that's the first one that I'm higher than you on.
25:16Oh no, that's not true. Uh, both Gibson Bajon.
25:19That's totally incorrect. But, uh, once we're getting to the risky guys, he he's risky, he's risky for injury.
25:25He's not risky for anything around him, but he's definitely risky for injury.
25:29I'm going to run St. Brown. By the way, these are all in the show notes.
25:34So you don't need to be crashing your car, writing them all down.
25:38I, I put it, I'm putting our risk factors next to each player.
25:42Uh, ARSB. I have missed a two. I have missed one.
25:45I wrote wide receiver three, three straight years. Safest pick you can make if you're stuck.
25:50I just, all right. Number nine, James Cook. He should be riskier than he is the way he runs in as small as he is.
25:58Um, but I just can't get higher than a three because it really hasn't manifested in anything scary yet.
26:03I got a three, two. Oh, I got no notes from what you just said.
26:08Yeah. Uh, all right. Good one here. Number 10.
26:11Does it surprise me that CD lamb is the, is the ADP number 10?
26:15Uh, yeah, I think a little, um, I don't think I would do it, but I, like, I understand.
26:21I understand where people are coming from, but the risk CD lambs had one incredible year and otherwise it's been nothing.
26:27But I think I said in the almanac, it's always something with this guy.
26:31It's an injury. And last year, the injury was stupid.
26:34It was a running play. You know, it's him dropping because he's distracted.
26:38It's him jockeying, you know, barfing in a bucket with George Pickens.
26:42Like I put, I gave him a six. I almost wish I'd gone higher.
26:46I gave him a five and it's because of the ADP.
26:50Like, you know, am I betting he's going to be a wide receiver one this year?
26:54Yeah. But when I look where some of the guys we're going to talk about later are like 10 to 12 picks
27:01later, nine picks, like I don't love it. It feels a little bit capped.
27:05I wrote the same thing you did other than that absurd season.
27:09And he had two years ago. And then he was going as like the two pick, like kind of hasn't been there.
27:16And it just doesn't seem like he's going to put together when he's massive TD.
27:20So I'm with you. I think it's a five.
27:23I think it's one of the rougher picks to pick in kind of that 10 to 14 range.
27:28I like him more towards the end of the two.
27:31Yeah, I don't have him. I mean, in a full PPR, he belongs close to the end of the first round, beginning of the second round.
27:39So I'm not too mad at this, but just a little higher than I would take him.
27:45I'm trying not to have my risk factor be related to the ADP.
27:49I'm just trying to have like how risky is the guy.
27:52And then sure, maybe that's part of why his ADP should be lower, but whatever.
27:56We'll, we all have our own methodologies. Number 11 is Saquon.
28:00And I mean, he's edging toward 30 and it's a rebuilt offense and he's coming off of, I don't think he really
28:06did much wrong, but like wasn't good results. And he had to slam himself against some bodies that weren't being blocked.
28:13So I find more risk. I mean, you know, last year I think I gave him a two.
28:18This year I gave him a five. I gave him a four this year.
28:23Um, look, I'm comfortable with him, Chris, at the end of one, and I'm not trying to do this just in ADP.
28:29And you and I discussed this when we were talking Almanac, like so much of his stats came in that 2000 yard season of those explosive runs.
28:37It was just massive gains. And I think he didn't have Lane Johnson last year, but yeah, there's a ton of moving parts here.
28:45No more AJ Brown, new offensive coordinator closing in on 30.
28:48So I still gave it a four, but I'd be good with him at the end of one.
28:54I am too. I am too. But that the point isn't so much like we're not there.
28:59We're there are two categories here. There's like, are we, are we critical of the ADP?
29:04But even if you'd take the guy, is he risky?
29:07And therefore is your build of later picks influenced?
29:09By it. Does that make sense? Yeah. And I think there's a little risk with him here.
29:15Like I don't, this is not someone who's going to run out.
29:18Yeah. You gave him a four. I think you, you, you, you did it.
29:22Speaking of players with risk, number 12, Justin Jefferson.
29:25I mean, he might be the best receiver in the league.
29:29He might, he's, I think top two. And the reason he's down here is because he's risky as hell.
29:34Cause what happened last year? I, you know, I, I think, I think it's a six.
29:39I gave it a five. Um, I'm higher than you.
29:42And it's shocking to me. And I wavered originally.
29:45Cause I will say I had a six. And then about an hour ago, I put it as a five.
29:51Cause I said, you know, look, quarterback situation was absurd last year.
29:55And then I said to myself, is Kyler Murray the savior?
29:58Like, you know, other than that year of Hopkins, where just Hopkins is going out and gobbling balls in the air.
30:04Like he hasn't been this wide receiver whisperer. So I am concerned, but like, man, it's only been one year where Jefferson's
30:11played and he hasn't, that he's played a full season.
30:14He's done less than 1400 yards. So I'm with you.
30:17Like, it's still just such an extreme talent. Five is pretty scary for me.
30:21So, but yeah, you're higher than me. Six is pretty scary for me.
30:25I would have thought you'd have been like an eight on Jefferson.
30:29Which isn't to say again, you might take them, but I just think that he's the kind of dude who, until you
30:36see it again, you're going to be super stressed out.
30:39I would, I would have thought so good. Good on you for not being stressed, I guess.
30:44Number 13, Ashton Gente. It's just, there's no threat to his primacy there.
30:48It's just a question of whether the offense is going to be good.
30:52He's, he's going to be better. He, you know, like, I don't, I'm not mad at this ADP.
30:57I just think it bears some risk. I gave him a four.
31:01I gave him a four too. I also just like to, to, I don't know anything Chris about offensive lines.
31:07I don't grade that, but I love hearing like, yo bro, Tyler Linda bombs there now.
31:12So I'll just throw that in there too. But yeah, there's just, the workload there is, is phenomenal.
31:17But four. Yeah. Chase Brown is next. Wow. That's high.
31:20I'm a big, biggest Chase Brown. I mean, this is an ADP conversation.
31:24That's high for Chase Brown. 14. Wow. I don't think I do that.
31:28I don't think there's a format in the world.
31:31I do that. He's a really, really good player, but I guess I'm officially the first, for the first time I'm priced out of the Chase Brown market.
31:40Your thoughts. And I'm not, I gave it a three and I wrote one of the safer picks.
31:45That's not what I'm asking. That's what I'm asking.
31:48I'm asking about the ADP. I don't care about the risk factor.
31:51So answer my question then. Three. I gave it a three.
31:55That's not my question. Do I think the ADP is crazy?
31:58Yes. I don't. You have them there. Interesting. Yeah.
32:01Yeah. I think that's, that's where he belongs. I don't.
32:04I think it's too high. I think a bunch of receivers belong above him because all the, you know, the, what you're, what we're like, we're splitting hairs.
32:12I'm still a top 20 player for me. I'm not like, you know, I'm not losing my mind over it, but I,
32:19I am very, that's the first ADP that once I looked at this, cause it's my first exposure, I went, wait, what
32:26he's, he's, he should be like a, like the first or second pick of the second round.
32:31He should go before Devon HM. I think that's not true.
32:34I think that's not true. And a lot of, and really, honestly, I would put HM ahead of him, but I, I'd
32:41put receivers ahead of him too, because a lot of the reason that people would endorse Chase Brown is for the receiving.
32:48And you know who does a lot of receiving.
32:50Yeah. Devon HM. Also receivers. Yeah. So you, you give him a three.
32:54I give him a four. I don't find him all that risky.
32:58I just think it's a high ADP. Let's move on.
33:01Kenneth Walker. What, what risk factor do you find him to have?
33:05I gave it a four. You're probably higher. Cause I know you had him as your, what did we call indigestion acid reflex list.
33:12You were probably higher than me. He is. He is a six because he was on my indigestion list.
33:18Um, for all the reasons that we said last week, I just, I, I think it's a little, it could work.
33:24He's a good player. You like him a lot.
33:27I know he's a really good player. The reason I talked about him last week.
33:32And the reason I gave him a six here is that this is really assuming a lot of things fall into place
33:38for him that have never fallen into place. Like he, I think there's a big health risk.
33:43Do we not agree that he's been hurt a lot?
33:46Oh, he's been hurt pretty much every year. He's had these lower, I mean, he's never had like the eight week KO,
33:53but he goes after two to three weeks. And yeah, this is his first time we're going to see him.
33:59I think a lot of people are just liking this to the, the Josh Jacob.
34:04It was Henry, like that whole season. We saw all these guys change teams and just explode.
34:09And I think it could happen again. If you want to, that's a stupid reason.
34:13That's a, if that's the reason, that's an unbelievably stupid reason because he changed teams.
34:18That's why he's going to not, you're saying it, but like, no, that's really dumb.
34:23Yeah. Look, I liken them to Robert Pattinson. I love the guy.
34:26I think that's, this is what his ADP is probably going to be.
34:30It's an early round too. If you want to own him just because of running back scarcity.
34:35I'm not like, I, I'm, I'm, we're having a hard time getting on the same page here because I'm really not like questioning your risk factor.
34:43I'm saying the ADP is a little high for me and I've said why, but I'm surprised that you only have them as a four.
34:51You can have them rated here and have them as an eight.
34:55You have McCaffrey as an eight or nine or whatever.
34:58And you're still saying you'd take him. It's just so, so a high risk factor doesn't mean you don't take them.
35:04You see what I'm saying? I don't see it.
35:07You're taking on risk. You don't see it as risky.
35:10I see. I, I go the injury risk. He's been hurt every year.
35:14And then there's a risk. The chiefs are just not awesome on offense.
35:18Yeah. No, look, I get it. You had him as one of six.
35:22You said six. Yeah. Yeah. I'm surprised that you didn't have Meyer, but it's good for people to hear.
35:27It's good. Cause I may be tilting people a little too, too heavy toward being scared of him.
35:33And you're a little less scared of him. Uh, I think we're both going to have a high rank on Devon HN for risk.
35:40And I would put him higher than 16 on my draft list, but I'm going to acknowledge that you're taking on a whole bunch of risk.
35:48I gave him a seven. I have a seven too.
35:51Um, and I've just had a really difficult time ranking him for exactly what you said.
35:56Yeah. The tower is great. We've seen him score.
35:59Um, but that doesn't mean it's not risky, especially when I hear the coach being like, bro, I'm going to give him 40 touches a game.
36:07And you and I have talked about it. It's like, yeah, I don't want that for him.
36:12Like I don't. Yeah. But again, the team also concerns me and we don't have to go into the large discussion, but
36:18I think at some point too, like them, the cards, if you're not playing well, do these guys sit if they get dinged?
36:25I don't think it's NBA level yet, but I just think that these leagues are copycats.
36:30I think they're copycat to a degree. And if you've got a team sitting there three and 11 and he gets, uh,
36:37Oh, his ankles busted, he's not playing the rest of the year.
36:41So there's that part that sits there with me.
36:43And I just also get concerned with Malik Willis.
36:46Like, what is that receiving? If it goes from 80, 90 catches to 50 and that team's just bad.
36:52You're just, you're just giving, you're giving an ADP argument.
36:55I can't keep doing this. Me too. And so like, I would take him at 10.
37:00I, I, at least, I mean, I will admit this, uh, this joint practice that happened this week where all the commanders
37:06be reporters were like laughing at how bad the dolphins were.
37:10That does give me pause. So that maybe it was a little downward mobility.
37:14But my point is that it's very possible for me to have a guy at 10 who has a risk factor of
37:21seven, just like it's very possible for you to have McCaffrey with a risk factor of nine to be your number five overall player.
37:28Because the, because you, you know, if everything works out fine, HN will be awesome.
37:33But I think it is fair to say that I might be ranking him close to his ceiling.
37:38And maybe that, maybe I need to come down just a little bit.
37:42Would you make that argument that if I'm putting it 10, that's, I'm not acknowledging enough downside on HN.
37:48You're not. Yeah. And again, I have the risk high too, and I have him 13 overall.
37:53Okay. All right. Well, oh, good. Okay. So, I mean, I thought you were going to say 20, so you were not that far off.
38:01All right. All right. Interesting case. And we've had, it's been a big Omar Ian Hampton, uh, week on the show.
38:07We've talked a lot about him. We talked about Keaton Mitchell yesterday.
38:11Um, uh, what's your Omarie Hampton risk factor? I got him as a six, six.
38:15Me too. How about that? Yeah. Look at us.
38:18Yeah. I mean, what's the risk? I just, it's been such a small sample size there.
38:23And I think that you have, look, I think Mike McDaniels, I don't believe every single thing, but when you're talking about,
38:30I'm going to use each one of these guys, it just, we haven't seen it yet with him there.
38:35We haven't seen a more than a half of the season with Hampton.
38:39There's Keaton Mitchell there. There's come on. He would dial.
38:42I plus he got hurt risk. I mean, and he himself hurt last year.
38:47Right. So anybody taking Omarie Hampton 17, which I am nowhere close to doing that.
38:51He's like 34 on my list. I'm nowhere close to taking it.
38:55If you, but like, I understand what could go right, which is why ranking him here is acceptable.
39:00Because if you, if the chargers are a wagon and Hampton is better than he showed last year, and he was an
39:07adverse circumstances, because we all know the reasons why we could wind up explaining away Hampton's rookie year.
39:12It could be fine. But if you're going to take him here, you got to acknowledge it's a six.
39:18You got to acknowledge I'm building risk into this team because it is not any kind of sure thing.
39:24No question about it. Derek Henry at 18, I would take ahead of a Murray and Hampton.
39:29No question. And part of that is because I would judge him much less risky.
39:34I gave him a three despite the age. And I gave it to, there you go.
39:39Yeah. It's funny that we feel this way. It's like, as he gets older, we get more confident in him.
39:45That seems perverse, but we do kind of, it's just one of those.
39:49It's a rare player where I just haven't seen the decline.
39:52And I'm just, it's not like one of those where I feel like it's going to be steep.
39:57Like out of just nowhere, like kind of what Lynch did.
40:01It just, I think there's very few running backs I've seen like him.
40:05I'm fine. Yeah, I'm fine too. And I'm would take him ahead of Hampton.
40:09No question. Even in a PPR, I'd take him at Hampton.
40:12I know I'm not getting receptions, but I'm cool with it.
40:16Number 19 is Drake London. I gave him a five because of the quarterback questions.
40:20He's really good. I also think some part of, for me of this risk coefficient is also a little bit about variability week by week.
40:28And London is one of these 50, 50 catch guys who's really talented, really good, deserves to be a wide receiver one.
40:34I'm cool, but they do have him and Nico Collins and they, they have rough rides.
40:39They have down weeks when they don't make the one big contested catch.
40:43To me, that feels like it needs to be factored into a little bit.
40:48I have the same coefficient as you. I have a five and it's the same thing.
40:52It's the quarterback play. And the rides are not really that smooth.
40:56Like you get those eruption games. And it's funny.
40:59We'll talk about that with Nico of like one 40 and two.
41:02And then it's just like halftime one for seven and other games.
41:06You're like, yo, is he playing? Did he get hurt?
41:09And yeah, I don't, I don't feel amazing with Penix and Tua.
41:13I mean, we saw what Tua has done the last few years.
41:16So there's an uncomfortability, but you're going to have these huge spikes.
41:20Um, and you know, the volume is going to be there whenever he's been playing and he's a wide receiver one.
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42:29Okay, we're back with Josh. Josh. And before we get back to the rest of these first three rounds, Josh, it's time.
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43:45We're at number 20. In the, uh, live ADP as of when we grabbed it.
43:49Uh, it's Brock Bowers. Now, once again, a very clear, these next two guys are very clearly players.
43:55You and I are never going to take at their ADPs.
43:58I will, I will tell you, I was not surprised or, you know, seeing that the first tight end of the first
44:05quarterback be in the mid to late second round.
44:07I know that's just how it goes. We're never going to do that.
44:11It's funny. Last year, I gave Bowers a huge high risk factor.
44:15I gave him an eight and he wasn't hurt yet.
44:18And I was trying to think back why. And it's, it truly had to have been just chip Kelly, Gino Smith.
44:24I'm terrified of everything. And then on top of it, he obviously got hurt and hobbled around for half the year, but
44:31I lowered that down to a six. Yeah. And I'm at a five.
44:35You and I are just not going to own him or the next player.
44:39Correct. Yeah. Correct. I mean, I guess. Probably I would, if I have to be honest, I would admit that part of
44:46why I'm giving a little extra risk bump here is that it's a risky build.
44:51We, we both find it to be sort of an unacceptable level of risk to take the tight end here.
44:57Does that factor in for you at all? A hundred percent.
45:00And I did it last year in four with McBride and it worked, but like you said, you're playing catch up at
45:07either running back or receiver later on. And then you and I really quickly will sit here and go, wow, round six,
45:13I could have just taken, you know, if I was going to do it, which you probably wouldn't like LaPorter.
45:19And I, you know what? I'd rather go back now, get rid of Bowers, have the running back or receive there and
45:26take the tight end five rounds later. That's the problem.
45:29It's so funny that you say that because I drafted with Jake Trowbridge last night and he did it.
45:35He didn't, he took not one of the first two.
45:38He might've taken Loveland and then immediately like two rounds.
45:41I was like, well, I didn't need to do that.
45:44Did I? And he winds up, he winds up with a bad quarterback as a result.
45:49All right. And then the other 21 is Josh Allen.
45:52I mean, he's not risky, but I don't love taking the quarterback there.
45:56So I still gave him a three. I gave it a two.
46:00Okay. Same thing. All right. Same idea. All right.
46:02Interesting. I'm, I'm really interested to see what number you'd give AJ Brown.
46:06This feels like a fair draft spot for him ish adjacent somewhere.
46:10I mean, you got to take somebody and it were out of shore things, I think.
46:15And AJ Brown, you know, there's, there's definitely knee stuff with him.
46:18There's changing team stuff with him. What numbers you wind up giving him?
46:22I gave it a six, but I like him.
46:25And that means I can still do that based on your rules.
46:29And I would pick him. I've already bet him, Chris, for most receiving TDs, which was 24 to one.
46:35I just think that, I think that's really great.
46:37I think he's getting the best quarterback of his career.
46:40And look, you could sit here and talk to me about all the advanced metrics and his separation scores and yards per route run down.
46:48You know what I said? Can't a guy just be sad, man?
46:52Like sometimes you're just sad and you need to change the scenery.
46:55And all of us have had that throughout their professional careers where you're not your best self.
47:00This is not a 34 year old. This is not the Devante Adams, Mike Evans class.
47:05I still think he's got at least an elite season left playing with the best quarterback.
47:10Do I think he's going to T O these, these slants and take them 80 yards across the middle after catch?
47:16Maybe not that anymore, but I still think that he's a really high end receiver.
47:21And I'm looking forward to it, but, but I acknowledge the risk.
47:25Right. But you're giving him what, what would you say the biggest risk is?
47:29That's, that's, I think the knee stuff, I think, I think he's got the knee stuff that makes it.
47:35It's still a change of scenery. I agree. It's a, it should be a good chain of change of injury because it's
47:41exactly where you want it to be. It, it theoretically is a better quarterback.
47:46I gave him a four. So I wasn't, but it, but it, for me, it was about injury.
47:51That's the concern. All right. 23 is Nico Collins.
47:54If I'm going to give Drake London a five, I'm probably going to give Nico Collins a five.
47:59I gave him a four, but looking back, it's probably the same thing as London.
48:04Another guy who just finds his way to get concussions, lower hamstring injuries.
48:08It's not the, you know what I wrote down to, I wrote absolute animal, six, four freak monster version of Pickens.
48:14Like I love, like watching him play. Chris is amazing.
48:17Like, I wish he was in a different ecosystem than that Houston Texans team with, you know, I was the innovator and
48:24the originator of how bad Stroud is. I'll always pat myself on the back after his rookie year.
48:29You were, but I acknowledged the risk. So I gave him a four.
48:33I gave him a five for the same reason that I gave London a five hurt a lot.
48:39I'm not totally sold on what's around him. And that type of receiver is just inherently week by week, a little bit frustrating.
48:46You said it earlier perfectly, which, you know, you get the 130 yard game and you're like, it'll be like this forever.
48:53And then you get the eight yard game. You're like, Oh, maybe it won't.
48:57So I gave them both fives. Here's a big one.
49:00I can't wait to hear your version of this.
49:03Cause we've talked in the off season. What did you do for Pickens?
49:07Cause I'm a much bigger fan than you are, but I'm so curious.
49:11Well, it's not far off from where I would take him.
49:14So this isn't, this is just acknowledging the risk of taking him there.
49:18And it, and it is scary and you do kind of have to build an upside, but like it's two spots off from where I would take him.
49:26Not, not among receivers, among all players. He's 24 here.
49:29I have him 26. So I am definitely not anti this ADP.
49:33I understand it, but I gave it an eight because I mean, let me count the ways Bernie, you know, I mean, he's, he's a knucklehead.
49:41And if he goes off the reservation, you, you lose period.
49:44And then I just think we're often wrong about, Hey, these two guys are on such a good offense that they could never be bad.
49:52And then, I mean, can you name me a season where we drafted two receivers from the same team in the top 12 receivers?
49:59And it worked. Cause I can't, I can give you a Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle.
50:04I can give you a Devante Smith, AJ Brown.
50:06I can give you a Jamar chase. Cup and woods, cup and woods.
50:10I wouldn't spend $200 on rapid words in an auction.
50:13Yeah. Like it doesn't really ever work. So that to me adds just a general, like we might have it wrong.
50:20We might be doing the wrong thing. Pickens should be higher than lamb.
50:24Like that's possible. But if it's not, you know, the, if you believe lamb over pickens, then you believe pickens is the likelier to tail off.
50:32So he gets an eight out of me, but more importantly, what does it get out of you?
50:37I only had him as a four and maybe I'm biased.
50:41Cause I've had him forever. And I was so excited.
50:44And I'm like, no, no, no, I'm going to ride this.
50:47But I did write down with an asterisk one game.
50:50He did not try. And it's exactly what you said.
50:53I still think he's motivated this year for another contract, but yeah, I mean, it scares me.
50:58There's some games where I remember getting texting last year, like, Hey, did you see that play where he quit?
51:04Like he just doesn't care sometimes, Josh. Um, I remember having this, you're acknowledging risk with your, you're acknowledging risk with a four.
51:11You're giving him a four. You're just saying it's not overpowering, but it's not like you're giving a one.
51:17So I, I, I definitely understand a Trey McBride.
51:20I gave Bowers a six. I'm going to give McBride a six.
51:23I don't like the quarterback. Yeah. It's kind of the same thing.
51:27And then, and then it's really just, we love these players.
51:30It's just, we don't like the strategy and that's for us factoring in.
51:34All right. We have our rookie running back here at 26.
51:38Um, guess who is not getting Jeremiah love this year, except for in La Liga where I drafted him in the rookie
51:44draft, but, uh, we're not, uh, we're not doing this.
51:47I, I'm going to be recommending people do not indulge in Jeremiah love.
51:51Um, what, what number did you give him? I gave him a six.
51:55You probably gave him a seven or an eight.
51:58I gave him a seven. Yeah. I will say this.
52:01This is a lot more palatable, Chris, than when Gentty was going seven or eight last year.
52:06And you were like, what is everyone doing, man?
52:09Yes. It is more palatable. I have them 33.
52:12I can't, it's around, but you know, I'm not, I'm not like falling off my chair.
52:17You're right. Yeah. I would pick the next three running backs and the receivers that we're probably about to hear over him, except for one receiver.
52:25But yeah, I mean, I acknowledge the risk. I hate the team.
52:28You've already done this thing with the dolphins. I think that comes in at some point and just, I'm just, I'm not
52:35doing the rookie running backs in the first three rounds.
52:38I've just seen it too many times and I can name them in your generational prospect.
52:43Sure. I get it. I mean, that's my, that's my gig.
52:46Every single time I do that bit on your podcast, but yeah, I mean, I five straight years of a generational tight
52:53end, five straight years of the generational receivers and running backs.
52:56You wouldn't believe what they did in the combine.
52:59Yada, yada, yada. Give me the six. It won't be on my team.
53:03Seven for me. Again, like you won't be on my team because it's a round off, but you're right.
53:09It's a, it's well said it is perspective that it is because it's the Cardinals.
53:13I mean, it's funny that the Cardinals of 2026 are held in so much more contempt than the Raiders of 2025 who
53:20were historically bad, but yeah, it's not, it's not the first round.
53:24We got Kyron Williams at 27. I think we're learning that there are some Rams who are going to be eligible for a flag list.
53:31This is really low for me, but I'll admit there's probably a little, like last year I gave him a two and
53:38I'll admit I gave him a three because there is a little more risk because Blake Corum got a little bit more involved.
53:45So week by week, there's a potential for me to be slightly more annoyed.
53:49He deserves a slight, I'm going to take them higher than this.
53:53No way higher than this, but there is a potential to be a little more annoyed this year.
53:58Yeah, I gave him a four. I'm typically the Kyron hater.
54:02I've kind of started to come around. I mean, the Corum stuff is there, but like the guy's got a nose for
54:08an end zone playing on an absurd team. And at 27 as well, I mean, this is a slam dunk flag player for you.
54:16I know that. Just based on this. I mean, I have the 13, 13 standard, 20 PPR.
54:21So like, you know, somewhere in the middle for half, but yeah, not 27.
54:25So Devante Smith as the new Eagles clear number one wide receiver, if there's risk, it's just, did we kind of see
54:32the peak already of the Eagles, but I don't think it's a strong risk.
54:36I give it a three. I have a three too.
54:39I do like, this sounds funny to say, I like that McKay lemons dinged up.
54:43I feel like that just, you know, gets him off to a nice low start too.
54:48And do people forget he won the Heisman also?
54:51I feel like everyone just forgets that for Devante Smith.
54:54Good player. Yeah. All right. Here's a big one.
54:57Here's the riskiest guy on the board. I would assume.
55:00Did you give a number 29 Malik neighbors a 10 as I did?
55:04No, I went eight. I mean, eight is still so high.
55:07Absolutely. It is. Yeah, of course, of course. I'm not mad at that.
55:11We're just acknowledging insane risk. Like just because he started walking around with the first team doesn't mean that his knee won't start to swell in week three.
55:20We just don't know. He's going around three in every single draft and I'm in a New York league.
55:25And I think this is, I think he's going to get picked before 29.
55:30It's just like, you know, again, another generational receiver.
55:32I actually think he's an amazing talent, but me too.
55:35I'm not doing it off of the injury until I see it for a period.
55:40Yeah. I mean, I gave him a 10. It's, it's a round off from where I would take him.
55:46I, I, I have raised him. I mean, I started with him significantly lower, but I still have him 39 overall.
55:52I still have him behind like Ted McMillan, T Higgins.
55:55Same. I have him behind McLaurin. Probably not going to change that just because there is just like, it's the week one is not a finish line.
56:03You know what I mean? Like just because he's ready and, and he, and he's been, this seems like a best case so far.
56:11So like, that's why I've raised him. I've raised him significantly from where he is in the Almanac, but yeah, I don't think I could do this high.
56:19He's King risk for me. He's the only 10 I gave.
56:23I don't think I even gave a nine. I think I just gave one 10 King risk.
56:28Uh, number 30, Chris Olave. The concussion risk is there.
56:31Otherwise it feels okay because the concussions, I gave him a four.
56:34I gave him a four too. I always like him more when he's around four player versus a three, like, but you
56:41know, he doubles his TD amounts and all of a sudden now he's back to being in an early three pick.
56:48Yeah, but he's a really exceptional player when he's playing there.
56:51But I mean, he takes some of these shots.
56:54It's sure. I think you need to know what you're doing in the third round.
56:58If you take them, I would take them there.
57:01Like I am higher than this. You need to know what you're doing.
57:05You know, you need to, you know, All right.
57:0831. Rashi rice. Oh yeah. Would you give him?
57:10I gave an eight. Eight. I also gave him an eight.
57:14What's the risk for you? I just, Chris, I've never seen him do this.
57:18Like we're talking about a guy who's coming off back to back years.
57:22He still hasn't broken 600 yards the last two years.
57:25And we do it on point per game projections.
57:28He's in and out of jail all the time.
57:30We don't know what this team is going to look like.
57:34And we just go, no man, like he's going to finally put it together for 17 games.
57:39But then we hear in the same thing. It's like, no, Ken Walker is going to take all these screens where, I
57:46mean, isn't that also where Rashi rice operates. So it's just, we got this guy who's kind of like this slant screen,
57:52check down merchant who we've still never actually seen put together this round three season, but we do it every single year.
57:59I would come nowhere to taking him here. I have them on my list, Chris, as wide receiver, 26.
58:05Like I haven't just wide receiver that high off board for me, not doing it off board.
58:10Yeah. Off board. And the risk is a big part of why I understand that I haven't higher than that.
58:1619 standard right now, 14 PPR. That might be a little high.
58:20I might, I might look at that PPR rank and come down a couple of spots.
58:25You're scaring me. There's also just the risk that chiefs keep saying it, but the chiefs, you know, they might not be the chiefs.
58:32They just, they haven't been for about a year and a half.
58:36So interesting. All right. 32. Another crazy risk guy, Josh Jacobs.
58:39I gave him a seven. I give him an eight.
58:42Okay. I mean, it's suspension and he got hurt last year and he got overworked into being hurt last year.
58:48And that matters. And so maybe there's a risk that they're simply not going to write him like they read him, wrote him previously, read him.
58:56But I have, I've lowered him with this injury.
58:59You know, he has a groin injury. I think he's going to miss a significant portion of the rest of time, training camp time.
59:06And I'll, I'll probably just feel okay. Being out on Josh Jacobs at this point.
59:10I mean, this is about where I haven't ranked 32 standard 35 PPR.
59:14It's not that far off, but it feels obviously really weird for me to not be ahead of the market.
59:21Josh Jacobs guy. Yeah. But there's obviously a reason why 33 T Higgins.
59:24I still find him risky. I, I give him a six.
59:28And I gave him a four. Okay. There's a borough risk, but there's also, he gets hurt a lot.
59:34He does. He misses a couple of games each year.
59:37Yeah. 34. Totally thrilled as a, as a person who lives in New York to see you, you have to have a high number on Brees Hall.
59:45So again, by your rules, I would love to take him at 34.
59:49I think this is a dream ADP, but I acknowledge I have them.
59:53I have him as a six. You probably have him higher than that.
59:57I have him as a seven, but again, dream AD, absolutely on board.
60:01Totally would take him. This is way, way, way, way lower than I would that, you know, this is, I would take
60:07it much higher than where we are right now, but I would do it in full knowledge that I was taking on a running back with extreme risk.
60:16Yeah. And you know what I, you know what I find interesting just really quick.
60:20I think it's worth having this combo. I wrote down, ask Chris, is this the cheaper version of getting Devon HM, right?
60:27Like not the greatest team, still a back that I think can catch.
60:31And he's done it before 60, 70 balls. Like, and you're getting like a 20 pick discount.
60:36It feels like, I don't know. I just, I think this is the ultimate ADP value that we have on this list right now of all the players.
60:45It's my favorite ADP, but I do acknowledge the risk.
60:48Yeah. Yeah. We acknowledge the risk. You know what I'll say about that is they both were in pretty crummy situations last year.
60:55A-chan finishes seventh and. Yeah. Hall finishes 18th and didn't, neither one missed any time.
60:59So that's the, that's the answer. The answer is that HN has to some degree already proven that he can overcome garbage
61:06because that team by the end of last year was pretty garbage.
61:10Maybe not as garbage as this year though. Whereas did the Jets get better?
61:14Oh, Gino Smith hasn't looked very good either. But of course, I guess that's right.
61:18If you're asking me like, who do I feel comes at better value here?
61:23It certainly would be Brees Hall, but it would be at extreme risk.
61:27Not, not so much because we think he gets hurt, but just because as with HN, you just go, Oh boy.
61:33What if it all just goes super bad and they're two and 10 and they don't really want to use them anymore?
61:40It could be. As a New Yorker, there are many games that are unwatchable and you shut off and you go, I can't even do this anymore.
61:48And you're like, did I, you go to the gym, you check back or you're putting on another game.
61:54You're like, has he touched it again? No. Like it's brutal.
61:57When you get some of these games, it's like the bills and it's 21, nothing at the beginning of the second, you
62:04go, Oh, I'll just catch five passes or something, please.
62:07All right. We've done the drama. There's two more names here left in this ADP third round.
62:12Javante Williams. I gave him a four because I don't think, I don't think he's like an amazing player and there's a way for him to be hurt.
62:21He's been hurt in his career, but like fine.
62:23And then Zay flowers at 36, another, I think it's good value.
62:27I like him there. And I don't really think there's that.
62:30I give him a three. I gave him a three.
62:33Also. I think there's minimal risk at all there.
62:36And I like that. When you, when you're down this low, getting a three is pretty minimal risk.
62:42Like he's the kind of player I would like to pair with McCaffrey.
62:45If I took McCaffrey in the first, not pair, but like have on the same team as McCaffrey in the first round,
62:52because I just feel like I know what I'm going to get.
62:56I might be wrong, but I do feel that way.
62:59All right. Well, we've, I think we figured it out by the time we got to the end, we figured out the rules.
63:06Uh, well done. Follow Josh on Instagram at detective fish.
63:09F I S C H. When next we hear and see you, it'll be on YouTube along with Joe Vetchkin and me doing a mock draft.
63:17That'll be fun. Yeah, dude, I'm pumped for it.
63:20I'm looking, looking forward to doing a mock. Um, and I, and I promise to do it authentically, even though I have
63:26a real draft coming up and I'm sure my, uh, my peers from that league will be listening.
63:32And thank you so much for listening to this show.
63:35In fact, Josh is so concerned about that, that he's like, okay, so I'm picking at the end of my real draft.
63:41So can I pick at the beginning of this fake draft?
63:45So, so I don't have to give any strategy away.
63:48I'm like, absolutely. So you're going to see Josh picking early in that mock with Joe Vetchkin on, uh, well, probably you'll see it on Tuesday.
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64:21Uh, you know, we got through it. Like Josh said, eventually, you know, you get yelled at once.
64:26I knew it was coming. I said it before we even got to him.
64:30Uh, indeed, but we figured it out and all good.
64:33And to be honest, he makes some good points on HN and I am nervous enough about what the commanders beat reporters
64:40said about the dolphins that I'll probably pay attention to one more joint practice with the dolphins.
64:45And if it still sounds like it's this bad, HN might need to go a few spots lower.
64:51Good points by Josh. Now we did have the, the big mock draft contest with Josh, uh, all settled, but we've got
64:57plenty more drawings coming for great prizes next week.
65:00I don't even know what all the prizes are, but for sure, it'll be a bunch of zoom sessions with me.
65:07Remember, all you have to do is pre-order pound foolish and send me a little proof of purchase and we'll be all set.
65:14That is going to do it for this show.
65:16It's going to do it for this full week of shows.
65:20It was a blast for me. And cousin Josh's flag list.
65:23So a big, big week coming up next week.
65:26Really looking forward to doing it with all of you right back here until then.
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