0:00It's the Harris Fantasy Football Podcast with your host, Christopher Harris.
0:03Welcome! Hey everybody, welcome in. My name is Chris and this is a show about beverages.
0:08What is going on today? You yacht possums, thank you so much for listening to this Monday episode.
0:14First off, I gotta mention it a few times the next couple of days.
0:18I'm reading in Los Angeles Tuesday night. That's the 1st of September, 7pm at Frogtown Brewery.
0:23I will be there. Please come hang out. As always, I have no idea who will show up.
0:29I hope some of my friends will come. I don't really know.
0:33I hope you will show up and become one of my friends if you're not already.
0:38Grab a beer after work. The weather is cooler now, I think, here.
0:42I'll read a couple of things from Pound Foolish and then we'll just hang.
0:46Even if you would be coming alone, one thing I can promise you from having done four of these dates last week, you will have fun.
0:54The possums are a welcoming crowd. You'll meet me and a bunch of really nice people.
0:59And trust me, the awkwardness of it being a bunch of strangers will wear off really quick.
1:05So, 7pm Tuesday evening at Frogtown Brewery. I hope you will join.
1:09It is the official book launch. The book is officially out as of tomorrow.
1:13Oh man! I don't even know what I'm supposed to do between now and then.
1:18I'm the publisher. This is crazy. And so, the other thing that I will say here, you know, a lot of you
1:25have heard me say things about the book and you're ignoring me and you're well within your rights to do so.
1:31I'm so happy to have you listening. It's great.
1:34It's great. But if you've ever been tempted to help out, the book bribery will continue this week.
1:40If you keep meaning to get a copy or I'm wearing you down with my patheticness, let this be one of your final warnings.
1:47If you'd like to help out the silly goal of making the book some kind of bestseller, you're really running out of time.
1:54You can pre-order on Monday. You can just order, I think, from Tuesday forward.
1:59But ordering on Amazon doesn't really help next week.
2:02Over this, basically this week here, that's its own separate list.
2:05So, you know, you can find other places you can order it if you just look at harrisfootball.com.
2:11And then, you know, starting next week, wherever, Amazon's fine.
2:14I will bribe more people this week, lots of bribes, including today, up through Friday.
2:18On Friday, we'll pick the grand prize winner who will appear on this very show.
2:23Just take a screenshot of the book purchase. Send it to heyharris at harrisfootball.com.
2:27If you've been meaning to do it, you just keep forgetting this is one of your last warnings.
2:33And what have I been doing with myself since returning from the Pound Foolish tour last week?
2:38I'm not kidding. I don't think I've stepped outside the yacht.
2:42I don't think I've been outside once since Thursday.
2:45I've been locked to the laptop, making a million changes to the player profile Almanac because that revision comes out on Friday.
2:52If you got the first edition, you will automatically get the one on Friday.
2:56And of course, if you're only just playing catch up on fantasy and just started listening today, you can also order the
3:03Almanac now and then you'll get the update on Friday.
3:06But what specifically do you think I've been trying most to deal with in the Almanac revision?
3:11That's right. On Sunday, we did get word Josh Jacobs.
3:14He's on the commissioner's exempt list. It happened midday.
3:17This is a major argument for why we would prefer to do our drafts the last weekend possible because if we drafted
3:24before midday on Sunday, Jacobs was probably still going as a third round pick or so.
3:29And now he should not be a third round pick.
3:32Let's definitely give the NFL credit. I give them crap.
3:35Some of that crap comes in that package that's called pound foolish.
3:39All I can say about the fact that they decided to nip this in the bud before Jacobs could play in games that count.
3:47The cynical part of me says, oh, they definitely have seen that video and they're definitely afraid it's going to leak out.
3:54Ray Rice style, Kareem Hunt style. They definitely already know that they would not be able to push this under the rug
4:01because surely that is what they would prefer to do.
4:04But whatever the reason, we give them credit. They did not do that.
4:08Our policy, believe women. So the commissioner's exempt list, this is what they do when they don't know what to do with
4:15you, when they can't figure out what they can get away with yet because the legal system is still playing out.
4:21But it's almost certainly a long-term absence for Jacobs.
4:24You may have read about this stuff elsewhere. I'm not going to repeat everything because I'm pretty much just reading the same stuff that you're reading.
4:32But like, you know, Adrian Peterson with the child abuse case, he missed the entire season.
4:37Greg Hardy with the bed full of guns. That was an entire season.
4:41Kareem Hunt, when the video came out, immediately was cut by the Chiefs and spent five games on the list, but then
4:48would be suspended eight more games after that. We think we know that the baseline here is at least six games for
4:55Jacobs because that's the minimum suspension for a first-time domestic violence offender.
4:59But his initial court appearance isn't until mid-November. So I don't know.
5:03It feels pretty unlikely he gets activated before mid-November.
5:05And then after that, often a suspension can get tacked onto the end or he could get weeks taken away based on time served.
5:13All of which is to say, for the cruel actuarial purposes of this game, he is a much later round pick himself
5:20and probably only if your league has reserve spots.
5:23And the Packers traded for Caleb Johnson yesterday, which you are no doubt aware of.
5:27And Caleb Johnson, I don't think is any panacea.
5:30He flamed out in Pittsburgh after just one season, seemed destined to be cut, but gives you the idea that Green Bay
5:37knew what was coming and battened down the hatches for a long absence for Jacobs.
5:42And so what's left behind? It's Marshawn Lloyd, it's Chris Brooks, it's Caleb Johnson for now.
5:47And, you know, that's what everybody is talking about this Monday morning.
5:50How does this shake out? And of course, you'll get so much blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, everybody pretending like they know, but we don't know very obviously.
5:59And the question, if you have more drafts ahead of you is given the fact that we don't know, what's the best strategy we can adopt?
6:07I've taken a shot at harrisfootball.com. You can see how I tried to process it.
6:12I put Marshawn Lloyd highest. I put him in the sixth round standard, maybe like seventh PPR.
6:17I'm positive people out there will tell you to be more aggressive with him because there is always someone who wants to
6:24be more aggressive on the hip new thing. But of course, the problem is we just have no idea whether he's any good.
6:31Marshawn Lloyd has six carries in two years. He's played exactly one game that counted.
6:36And by association, he's been hurt basically his entire two year pro career.
6:40Hamstring, ankle, appendix, hamstring, calf. If everything breaks right and it turns out he was as incredibly talented as his boosters told
6:47us two and a half years ago, well, I'm ranking him too low.
6:51But one lesson of this podcast this time of year is that people tend to only embrace the best case, but we
6:58have to try to account for the full probability matrix.
7:01And in this case, the downside is that A, he can't play at all or B, his body can't take it.
7:08So that rank is how I try to account for the full range of possible outcomes, but I make no claim that it's correct.
7:15And then Chris Brooks, I mean, at least we've seen him play.
7:19He's a power back. He's a Chris Rodriguez type.
7:22You remember what Emmanuel Wilson did last year for Green Bay?
7:25And boy, you'd have to imagine Green Bay is kicking themselves for not paying $1.6 million to retain Emmanuel Wilson now.
7:32But Brooks can do that. He's a power back, potentially a goal line back, really good pass blocker, very little wiggle or
7:39big play ability, not the kind of dude who's likely to make a lot of people miss.
7:44But if we get to week one and it's actually Brooks who is the main guy, it's not what I expect.
7:51But of course, I don't know. It wouldn't be a shock.
7:54He's suddenly the veteran in the room, having played in 41 actual NFL games with Miami and then Green Bay.
8:0080 tool hole carries in his career. He's also caught it a little bit, though he's not a dynamic playmaker.
8:07I have him ranked more like in the 10th or 11th round.
8:10But again, it is a guess. And then Caleb Johnson.
8:14I mean, if we have questions about whether Marshawn Lloyd can play, we really have to have questions about him.
8:20He was a third round pick last year. The Steelers had all kind of hopes for him, and they tried to use him early on.
8:28He had an incredibly bird brained special teams fumble that got him exiled by Mike Tomlin.
8:33And now a new Pittsburgh coaching staff got a long look at him in training camp, and they also decided he can't play.
8:40Seems like they were maybe thinking about cutting him before the Packers jumped in and offered a sixth round pick two years from now, 2028, essentially free.
8:48Probably Caleb Johnson is just depth behind Lloyd and Brooks, but I don't know.
8:53I don't know for sure. I put Johnson right beside Brooks in the ranks, and I actually just took him late in a draft last night.
9:01Probably that's going to be me flushing away a double-digit round pick.
9:05Probably he can't play, but he's a body on a team that needs bodies.
9:09He might get a chance at a big role, and you know, that logic doesn't fit when we're talking about the third round.
9:16But the 11th round, there aren't usually guys available in the 11th round that have that kind of opportunity available, so I do not mind making that stash.
9:25But also, I just want to remind you, rosters are not finished.
9:29I'm having to stuff things into the Almanac revision as it is, but it's not finished.
9:34The Packers can still trade for somebody. They can still sign somebody.
9:37Jaden Blue got cut by the Cowboys. Jaleel McLaughlin got cut by the Broncos.
9:42All we can do is wait and see. And then, unfortunately, another arrest.
9:46Another one of the guys that we have loved on the show, Keenan Allen, got in his car drunk over the weekend.
9:53Unclear how much he drove drunk, but he was found parked in a no-parking zone and then blew the breathalyzer over the
10:00legal limit, so he was arrested for DWI. And there was some speculation the Colts might cut him before cut down day on Sunday, but they did not.
10:08Allen, fortunately, didn't hurt anybody. And the NFL does make distinctions for DWIs when the player has not extreme blood alcohol content, and Allen did not.
10:17So the current thinking about the Colts from the beat reporters who've done the legwork is that Allen probably will face a
10:23suspension eventually, but usually these DWI suspensions without the extreme circumstances only happen after the legal stuff plays out, which is usually
10:30like a long, you know, nine months or whatever.
10:33I haven't changed Allen's rank for 2026. Like Jordan Addison had a DWI offense in July 2024, wasn't suspended until the start of 2025.
10:41That's kind of what I'm thinking here, but boy oh boy.
10:44Isn't it fun to talk about this side of the NFL?
10:48I guess this is true every year, and it's why I wrote the book.
10:52Check out Pound Foolish for more about how I feel about all of this.
10:56Today's kickoff. Okay, on today's show, we are still deeply immersed in draft season.
11:01Labor Day weekend is next weekend in the U.S., and that is the biggest draft weekend of them in all, so we
11:08will spend this week trying to get you ready for it.
11:11That continues today. My guest will be Scott Pianowski from Yahoo Fantasy, and Scott and I are each going to count down late round players.
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12:42Find him wherever you find social media. Just look up his name.
12:45You can, of course, find him all over Yahoo Fantasy Sports.
12:49He is also back hosting the Breakfast Table podcast with Michael Salfino as well.
12:53And here he is. Hello, Scott. How are you?
12:56Yeah. I'm doing great, Chris. You know, it's the longest preseason in history, and it's been a lot of news lately.
13:03Not all of it good news, but getting close to the regular season.
13:07I know a lot of people still have their big drafts coming up in the next week or so, so it's an
13:14exciting time in the fantasy football streets. I hope they have their drafts coming, because otherwise somebody took Josh Jacobs in the
13:20third round isn't feeling good this morning. Thankfully, I avoided that in my leagues, but you know, anybody who thinks they know
13:27what the league is going to do with suspensions and discipline, it's just, we're flying blind on this.
13:33I still don't understand how Tom Brady get four games for basically driving 65 in a 55.
13:38I'll never understand that, but yeah, we're, there's just, there's not a lot of logic tied to it.
13:44Look, I mean, Jacobs deserves some kind of suspension.
13:47I don't know when it's going to come down.
13:50He's in limbo, but anybody who speaks with certainty on these things, I think is just fooling themselves.
13:55We're all kind of flying half blind on it.
13:58Yep. Absolutely agree. And, and I've, I feel like we can move on and talk about more fun things.
14:04Um, this is a fun show because like, again, really no wrong answers because nobody can tell us that we don't take
14:11these players in the double digit rounds. Um, and I'm sure that we do.
14:15So like, we're each going to go back and forth.
14:18We each nominated five players that we just find ourselves being tempted by in those late rounds to give folks some ideas
14:25that when they get down to the double digits, they can have a list of names.
14:30I'm going to stay away from the flag players because everybody already knows.
14:34So like I have a few players that we've already talked extensively about here for the past couple of weeks.
14:41Um, I'll mention them at the end, but I don't want to say them now because I don't want to Bogart anybody that you have.
14:48Um, and then also I'm just kind of trying to pick new names in general cause we're so on the show, you
14:55know, the show we do it every day. So we're just talking through a lot of different players.
15:01So I tried to pick players. We haven't spent that much time talking about, uh, did you have other than my assignment
15:08to you of, uh, what do you think of, you know, picking some double digits around players?
15:13Did you have anything else in mind? No, it sounds like the assignment and these are, these are fun picks because if
15:20you hit on them, you're going to feel great.
15:23And if for some reason, these players don't work out, you know, you, you cut them and you, you recycle them for
15:30ideas in September, October, whenever it will be. So, um, you don't have to be right that often on these players to have a successful season.
15:38Yeah. Agreed. And you know, then that inevitably leads to the question, Hey Harris, why don't you talk more on the show about when I should drop players?
15:47And the answer is that we'll get there, but like, it's hard to unilaterally say now everyone who has this player must drop him.
15:54It really depends on your league circumstances, how active your waiver wire is, what else you can get, you know, like go ahead, go ahead.
16:02What are you saying? Yeah. Every answer is contextual for sure.
16:05You know, should, should I be more aggressive in my poker game?
16:09Right. Who are your opponents? What are their stack sizes?
16:12You know, who's tilted, who's drinking? You know, I can't answer those questions.
16:16All we can do is give a set of guidelines, but you're always going to have to season it to taste.
16:23And I always say, you know, your room and you know, your league's habits better than Chris or I ever could.
16:30Right. Exactly. All right. So anyway, these are, these are droppable players maybe, but hopefully we, we hit on a few of them.
16:37Well, it's a pointless countdown. It does not matter at all, but it matters so much.
16:42Who is your number five late round player that you love drafting?
16:46So am I supposed to save the guy I like the most for the, for the number one?
16:51Is that what I'm supposed to do? Okay. In that case, I'm going to go with Emmett Johnson.
16:57Looks like he's won the number two job in Kansas city.
17:00It's behind Kenneth Walker, who was often hurt in Seattle.
17:03Of course, running backs get hurt. We understand that.
17:06What I like about Johnson is that he had a running and receiving profile in college.
17:11So I think he could have some diversity if he ever gets a role, all these running backs you take who are
17:18backups, their value is going to be tied significantly to if the starter gets hurt.
17:23And there's no way of knowing is Kenneth Walker going to get hurt?
17:27Jonathan Taylor going to get hurt? Is Saquon Barkley going to get hurt?
17:31There's so many different players who could fit this kind of a suit, but I'm at least encouraged that Emmett Johnson is a good football player.
17:39And he would be interesting the moment he stepped to that chair.
17:43So even though there's maybe 12, 14, 15 guys who fit this certain profile, he's one of the ones I'm quasi prioritizing.
17:50Cool. Yeah. If you wind up with them, I I've definitely gotten them a few times and I have them in a double digit rounds.
17:58Absolutely. And I don't think he goes there, you know, on average, I think you can almost get them whenever you want to take him.
18:05So yeah, it's kind of a black box and unknown, but why not?
18:09I completely agree. My number five, I put Jacoby Myers on my list.
18:14It's weird to me that the market decided, well, it's definitely Parker Washington and Brian Thomas, and it's definitely not Jacoby Myers
18:20because that wasn't really what it looked like in the second half after the trade last year.
18:26Like the player who ran the most routes after that trade, granted, Thomas was, you know, banged up for some of it, but it was Jacoby Myers.
18:34And whereas, you know, people I think think of him as a big slot, he moved all over and he's probably not
18:41your ex, but he's a good Z and he's a good Y and he's just good.
18:46And like, you know, I don't know if Brian Thomas goes bad this year, they could fire him into the sun.
18:53And if they fire him into the sun, Jacoby Myers gets real valuable.
18:57So it's just strange to me that some massive, I have Myers ranked third of the Jags receivers.
19:02I just have Myers. I think he's a top hundred player.
19:06And I think he's like in the one thirties right now.
19:09So I've snapped him up a lot. So nine games for Myers with Jacksonville, seven games started.
19:15We often talk about, well, receiver traded in the middle of the season, you know, different terminology.
19:20He's going to meet his teammates. You know, can we trust those guys?
19:24The pace he performed that, and this is over a half of a season.
19:28So it's not an insignificant sample that tracked to a full season of 79 catches, 920 yards, and just under six touchdowns for a team.
19:36He joined a bus. He hopped on that was already moving.
19:40And we like Liam Cohen. We like Trevor Lawrence.
19:42We don't know if we can trust Brian Thomas, Jr.
19:46Parker Washington is kind of the buzzy rising ADP player, but he's never, he's never done for a full season.
19:52It's not like Parker Washington is like this first round pick who can't fail.
19:56He's not Malik neighbors or somebody like that. Jacoby Myers is a perfect player that nobody's going to, it's not a hipster pick.
20:03Nobody's going to high five you. Nobody's going to be in pain because you picked Jacoby Myers.
20:09He's a boring veteran and he's going probably two or three rounds later than he should.
20:14I think he's a great way to get a cheap investment in an offense.
20:18It's probably pretty good. Okay. Nice. And by the way, if I say any of your guys just go, Hey, I had
20:25interrupt me and go ahead that guy. Cause I'd much rather, that was a great explanation.
20:30I'd much rather hear you talk than me talk.
20:33That's for sure. Um, who's your number four on this list?
20:36This is going to feel like cheating because there's so many good quarterbacks this year.
20:41You can do well at any price point. I often say it's the New York subway system.
20:46You miss a train. There's another train coming in five minutes.
20:50I've been in on Jordan love all summer. And now the situation, the drum beat probably gets a little bit stronger because they're running back room is unsettled.
20:59Who knows if the other guys can even play.
21:01But my question has always been, I see people who like Watson.
21:05I see people who like Reed. I see people who like golden.
21:09I certainly see people who like Tucker craft. None of that filters down the Jordan love.
21:14He has a quarterback five finish on his resume.
21:17The next year he got hurt early in the season.
21:20That season basically went out the window. I've realized it's been a very run heavy team in general, but the defense looks a little worse.
21:28Their main running back is in limbo. I think Lafleur is a good coach.
21:32They finally streamlined the pass catchers. I think they're going to play their main guys and not be as platoon heavy.
21:39Jordan love to me. Mostly you're going to draft multiple quarterbacks anyway.
21:42I think he's a perfect target for your second quarterback in the markets been giving you a giveaway price all summer.
21:49Yeah. I wish I could have gotten him higher in my ranks because he is more talent.
21:54I have him QB 17 and he's more talented than what I think typically think of QB 17 being last year was
22:01weird, but like, I won't even argue that they were all that run heavy.
22:06I mean, they were pretty run heavy, but like in ratio of run to pass, they were sixth.
22:11So it's not like first, you know, they were on the run side, but it's still more passes than runs.
22:17Come on. I mean, every team is more passes than runs.
22:21And you know, it's so the actual play itself I wrote about this in the almanac.
22:26The, the, the Pat Panthers loss, Greg Olson's doing that game and he keeps going like, uh, you know what?
22:32I don't understand why they're playing it so conservative.
22:35I don't understand why they're not going down the field.
22:38And that's not Jordan love. Jordan loves wants to go down the field.
22:42I think it's Matt LaFleur, um, like putting reins on and Utah.
22:46I felt like you saw at times where love would, would sort of like bristle and take deep shots.
22:52He probably got, he got just frustrated and bored with the run, run punt stuff or the run screen punt stuff.
22:59Um, I would love to think that somebody as smart as Matt LaFleur would have learned from his mistakes last year.
23:05I kind of thought he would get fired. I think he's going to get fired if they're not good this year and
23:12they might not be, but I'm absolutely with you that there's a, there's a little bit of a crease for there to
23:19be less running because you might not have a proven guy.
23:22And love is simply just people. He like, if you're making a list of like the 12 most talented quarterbacks in the
23:29league, he's, I think he's on it. Totally agree.
23:32And, and like you, I, my ranking is in that neighborhood where you have them.
23:37I might have them as QB 16. I want to move them up higher, but it speaks to the league is in
23:44a pretty good place where we have, I feel like we have 20 good quarterbacks right now or something in that range.
23:50And we'll see if, if maybe Shuck can be one of those guys, or I don't know if Arizona will have ever right answer.
23:58We'll see what Fernando Mendoza is, but for all the bellyaching sometimes that, Oh, the league is screwed at quarterback.
24:04I actually think we're in a pretty good place right now at the position.
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25:15ourselves are taking and my number four is Khalil Shakir, another veteran receiver.
25:19I wonder, did he make your list? I'll just ask and then if he didn't, I'll talk.
25:25Not on my list, but you know, you know, we talked to Kobe Myers, boring value veteran.
25:30I mean, that's certainly what Shakir is. Yeah, exactly.
25:33Like, okay, you're not getting a high ceiling, but if you've gone risky at receiver early in your draft, I love backing
25:40it up with one of Myers or Shakir. They just go too late and it's because they're unsexy.
25:45There isn't a huge ceiling for Shakir, but they're both just ballers.
25:49Like, you're never going to go wrong. I don't, you know, if they stay healthy, you're never going to go wrong with
25:56those guys because they're just really good football players that their teams really trust.
26:00And I know Shakir is more of a slot, pure slot guy than Myers is.
26:05And I know DJ Moore is there and I think that's great.
26:09I think it could help everybody, including Shakir. I just remember too many plays from last year, including, oh, Scott, the Patriots
26:16game, the fourth down play against the Patriots at home.
26:19That was, I mean, that game was over and Shakir just pulls one out of his butt.
26:24And, uh, you know, I'm not letting one play be the reason I draft a guy, but that was a great play.
26:31And I think he's actually a borderline great player.
26:34Who's just has a limited role in fantasy. That doesn't make him all that exciting, but this is, you know, like a one forties type player.
26:42This is where he's going and that's way too low.
26:45So like you said, not sexy, but again, roster construction might dictate.
26:49I doubt I take both Myers and Shakir, but I often take one of them.
26:54No, I'm totally with you on that. And, you know, exposure to a star quarterback and they don't have a deep receiving room behind Shakir.
27:02So I don't see any reason why he won't catch 70 balls again.
27:06Yeah. It's, I mean, we, we talked a lot about Skylar Bell and the off season cause we, we trust Matt Waldman's
27:12evaluations and he loved Bell, but it just, as far as I'm, I guess I'm not like fully plugged in on Bill's
27:19training camp stuff, but I, have you heard anything about Skylar Bell?
27:23Just the slightest. I don't think it's going to be a story this year.
27:28That's my feeling on Bell. Yeah. And Keon Coleman, the little black backpack.
27:32We're still waiting for that to happen, right? He's a basketball player.
27:35Maybe he's, you know, he needs to get back to his basketball roots.
27:39Where's defenders like a backpack. That's, that's supposed to be a good thing.
27:43I guess that was the big draft evaluation of, of Keon Coleman.
27:47All right. Uh, so I've, I've gone kind of boring with my, my first two.
27:52I actually have a fair number of boring picks here, but I got a couple that are fun.
27:58How about your number three? Yeah. I got a super boring guy.
28:01Number one, although I'm trying to get them in every draft, I'm going to stay in the division and stay at the
28:08position, but take a different kind of player. Cause Shakir Myers, they were four guys.
28:1380 Mitchell is not a four guy. 80 Mitchell is going to drive you nuts sometimes, but I still think he's a bet on talent guy.
28:21He can get deep. He's it's only his age 24 season.
28:25I thought the jets did a nice job stealing him in that trade with the Colts.
28:30It's kind of as a throw in mostly they're trying to get the draft capital and Mitchell is going to be on the field.
28:37Obviously Garrett Wilson is their alpha and they would like Kenyon Sadiq to become a major thing at tight end.
28:43We'll see how healthy he is. He had a great combine, interesting rookie taken in the first round, but we're looking for
28:50somebody who could pop somebody who may have a decent snap share may get, I don't know, five to seven targets a week.
28:57I realized we don't know what Gino Smith is.
29:00He was bad last year. He wasn't that long ago.
29:03He was actually pretty good. You know, he's already had a run with the jets.
29:08As Salfino always says, you know, people just look at the jets sometimes just say, LOL jets and just look the other way.
29:15Just assume nothing can ever work out with this team.
29:18But I think it's too early to say Mitchell can't play.
29:22And I feel like he has a pretty solidified role here.
29:25So I'm willing to kick the tires on somebody.
29:28I'm never going to play him in September. I'm just going to put them on my bench, see what happens.
29:34And I'm happy to cut him if two or three weeks go by and he hasn't really shown much.
29:40I certainly won't need him in my starting lineup, but I think he's young enough and athletic enough that I could still see some upside here.
29:48A hundred percent. You can still see upside a hundred percent.
29:52You know, people mature at different ages. And I think it's pretty clear that the problem with Mitchell through the college evaluation,
29:59through the time in Indianapolis was maturity. And I, you know, he has a serious condition.
30:04He had, he had type one diabetes and sometimes like didn't treat it very well.
30:08Like that was kind of where the maturity came in.
30:12He just like, wasn't vigilant about being consistent with it the way you have to be to be an athlete.
30:18And then, I mean, it's so funny, the play that got everybody hating him and the play that basically got him traded out in Indianapolis.
30:26It was an unbelievable play. Do you remember that touchdown that obviously wasn't because he freaking dropped the ball, but do you remember the actual play?
30:34For sure. Yeah. Like a 50, 50 ball makes the catch like on the dead run, he spins away.
30:40He's gone except for then holds out the ball out in front of him because he's going to be cool and just
30:47like bumbles it out of the end zone. But apparently then, you know, like was humiliated and got a lot of grief
30:54on social media and apparently sulked in the facility and couldn't get over it.
30:58And the Colts were like, all right, we're just never going to get through this guy.
31:03So of course, you know, I just, it would be, it would be too bad if that was the end of his story.
31:10And again, the age, right? It feels like he's been around long enough.
31:14He should be 27. He's 23, 24. You know what I mean?
31:18You know, it's the story. I guess this is age 24 season.
31:22So I'm certainly not willing to, and the guy, you know, he was good enough to be recruited by Georgia, transferred to Texas.
31:29And he played in, you know, Primo college program.
31:32So I'm, there's never been a question of the talent here.
31:35Yeah. And of course, like, I mean, you know, I sometimes hear people like I'm making up a listener in my head
31:42to be mad at, but I hear people in my head going, but it's Geno Smith, how in the world we can't get him to support Garrett Wilson.
31:51You said this already, but I'm like, yeah, cool.
31:54That's why we're saying take him in the 14th round.
31:57You know, like we understand this is an imperfect profile and a lot of it's likelier that it goes wrong than not, or else he'd be going higher.
32:06But I definitely understand, like, this is the opposite.
32:08Like you said, where if your roster construction kind of wants you to take a few higher upside shots, AD Mitchell is a good idea for sure.
32:17My number three, I, I don't know if it's boring.
32:20I guess it kind of is. I I've been taking Woody marks in so many drafts.
32:25Do you ever take them? I almost put them on this list.
32:29Oh, okay, cool. Um, I, I, you know, I've said it, I think, uh, I can't remember what I've said in person
32:36and cause I've just did all those events last week, but maybe I said it a bunch on the show too.
32:42So I'm more interested in what you have to say about it.
32:46But it's like Blake Corum scares the bejesus out of everybody.
32:49Oh, you can't take Kyron Williams that high Blake Corum.
32:53And I get it. Dave Montgomery doesn't go as high as Kyron Williams, but there just seems to be, everything's a committee
32:59except for like three teams or four teams. And there seems to be some teams where people get worried about the committee
33:06and other, they completely dismiss the second guy. And I don't think Woody marks was great as a lead guy.
33:13I also don't think he was terrible. I did a film futures on him back in January, February before they had Dave Montgomery and that team.
33:21And I came away thinking, you know, undersized, but understood the assignment and mostly didn't bounce everything outside.
33:26And, you know, that wasn't good for his health because he took a lot of shots, but he's also really quick and he's a pretty good runner.
33:35And then there is the aspect of potentially him being the third down back.
33:39And, and I just really hesitate to believe that Dave Montgomery is a three down back at this time in his career.
33:46And if he is, I don't know if he'll last.
33:49And I think this is probably some kind of split.
33:52And of course Montgomery should go before him, but I'm not just handcuffing marks to Montgomery.
33:57I'm often just taking marks by himself. It's a play towards what if Houston's got a better offense than we think.
34:04And, you know, you get a guy who's getting 40% of the work and he's pretty good in scoring touchdowns.
34:10And it's also a bench spot that you can, you know, in case Montgomery gets hurt, I think you've got a potential,
34:17you know, it would be the number one waiver at that week.
34:21But like, what's your logic? Am I, am I on to something when I'm just explaining why I put him on my list?
34:28No, we're going to share marks here. I, again, I almost had him on my list.
34:33If I went 60, he might've been the sixth guy.
34:36I love that he steps on the Mississippi state campus and catches 60 passes as a freshman.
34:42And through his five-year college career, he had 261 receptions.
34:45He had one year with 83 catches. He's very comfortable in that part of the game.
34:50He's credible in blitz pickup. Montgomery is never going to be a bell cow on this team.
34:55He, as you said, most of the teams in the league have some kind of platoon.
35:00I will say I am somebody who's saying all those quorum things that you mentioned.
35:05That's actually something I've been saying a lot. And Blake Quorum is one of my guys if today's assignment had been different,
35:12I would have found a reason to talk about Blake Quorum.
35:15I guess I'm kind of squeezing him in any way, even though he's certainly not going outside the top a hundred, but why not?
35:23Woody marks, right. And this offense, we saw the worst form of it.
35:27You would think some natural regression just maybe could kick them up a half notch.
35:31I realized they're a team that wants to win 1913.
35:34They have the great defense and all that, but yeah, Woody marks may be in a medium or deeper league.
35:41He may be quasi playable already because he may have seven to 12 touches in his back pocket weekly and Montgomery and
35:48an older and granted marks came into the NFL at an advanced age too.
35:52So he's not that much younger than Montgomery, but he's certainly younger.
35:56And that's the way to bet. You have to play fantasy football, like an actuary.
36:00Sometimes I think people just decided marks played last year and he was just okay.
36:05And people decide, okay, Woody marks no upside. I don't, I think that's completely missing the plot here.
36:11Yeah, I think that's wrong. And it, I think the, I'm curious about the method.
36:15I mean, you're not one of them, so I can't really ask you, but I'm curious about the method by which people
36:22acquired the opinion that Woody marks was terrible and needed to be replaced because that's not what I saw.
36:28And like that was a struggling offensive line by the end of the year was a struggling quarterback.
36:34And I'm not marks had a fumble in the playoffs and that was really bad.
36:39And I like, I'm not trying to say he was all world, but I didn't think he was terrible.
36:45Like if you would, if you'd pulled me going to the playoffs where the Texans were the hottest team in the league
36:52basically, and they route the Steelers on the road, I would have been like, yeah, my expectation is there's a chance.
36:58I mean, they're going to pair him with somebody, but my expectation is Woody marks probably is involved in the starting running back situation.
37:06And then they get David Montgomery, which is, it could have been worse for Woody marks.
37:11Like he's Montgomery's good, but he's not super special.
37:13And suddenly marks was terrible last year. Have you heard that?
37:17Yeah. Well, I think that the YPC, YPC throws people off, right?
37:21They see three point six yards a carry and they're like, okay, that's it.
37:25Forget it. And as you mentioned, the, the Houston loss to new England, he goes 14 for 17 on the ground.
37:32He loses a fumble, but by the way, I mean, the entire Houston offense was terrible.
37:37That was the worst game of CJ Stroud's career by a fair margin.
37:41He basically handed the game to new England. Their offensive line was a mess that day.
37:46I mean, okay. Glorious win for the Patriots. It didn't end well for new England, but the AFC playoffs went pretty well,
37:53but you just, sometimes you just have to give a guy a pass for that.
37:57I mean, let's remember your night. You mentioned the Pittsburgh game 19 for one 12 and a touchdown against Pittsburgh.
38:04If they had somehow lost that game, we would have gone in the off season thinking, okay, maybe Woody marks is the right answer here.
38:11Yeah. All right. Who is number two on your late round players?
38:15You love. Yeah. This feels a little gross because I don't know what the Raiders passing game is going to be past
38:22Brock Bowers, but they're an NFL team. I like Clint Kubiak.
38:25I would hope that some version of cousins and Mendoza is better than what Geno Smith was last year.
38:31So I'm going to leave the light on for Trey Tucker.
38:35We saw that three touchdown game out of nowhere last year.
38:38It's not an offense I really want to invest in, but the thing is people are just Tucker's available when people are
38:45drafting guys that are number three receivers and speculation running backs.
38:49And I just feel like he could be their best wide out.
38:52Now it's, you have to take that with a grain of salt because Bowers is going to get a million targets.
38:59And if Gentry is healthy, he's certainly going to catch passes as well.
39:03But I feel like a number one receiver on a team that at least improved its offensive infrastructure.
39:09I have to have some respect for. Yeah. It's interesting.
39:12Have we gotten to the point where people have realized that Jalen Naylor is not any good and we're moving on?
39:18Like there was a time where I kept seeing Naylor go ahead of Tucker and I kept thinking to myself, why are you doing that?
39:26It's not that I've seen Tucker be great. And I mean, you know, Naylor could turn out fine, but yeah, I think
39:33right now I'm just, as we're talking, I'm looking it up.
39:37It does seem like Tucker is now in live drafts on Fantasy Pros going ahead of Naylor, which that is as it should be in my opinion.
39:45That was a summer correction. I agree with you.
39:48Naylor, I don't know what he did in Minnesota that people got all excited about.
39:53I certainly didn't see it, but I feel like the market had that wrong maybe six weeks ago, a month ago, and that's been ironed out now.
40:01But even then, Tucker is, again, he's not a hipster pick.
40:04You're not going to win any cred. You're not going to make anybody angry.
40:09Nobody's going to offer you anything for him. You're just picking him up much like the 80 mental case and you're going
40:16to give him a few weeks on your bench.
40:18And it doesn't have, it's a very short leash.
40:21I'm totally fine to cut him for things that you need to address in September.
40:26But I also think we live in a world where he could have, you know, 950 yards and seven or eight touchdowns.
40:33I think that's in the range of outcomes for him.
40:36Yeah. Fast guy, like rocked up fast guy. I'm into it.
40:39Um, I like I've seen it. I've seen it too often where what's the difference between wide receiver 17 and wide receiver 42.
40:47He has two extra touchdowns. That's it. Right. And Tucker has that, right?
40:51I mean, Tucker, Tucker has that in his bag to go get those long touchdowns.
40:55Also, you just make, you just want to tell yourself a plausible story.
41:00Even if Tucker does quote unquote pop, he's going to be reserved for you.
41:04He's going to be somebody you use during the biweek season.
41:07I'm just looking to tell myself a plausible story that these guys could do something productive when I might need them in
41:14week seven or week 11, or I don't know when the Raiders biweek is, but even if he hits the high end
41:21of his range, he's just still going to be your wide receiver four, wide receiver five.
41:26I don't see him somehow creeping into the top three of your depth charts.
41:31So just as long as your expectations are in line, although again, I do think there's a whiff of upside here because
41:37I, I can tell myself a story where he might have a hundred plus targets.
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42:50Okay, we're back with Scott and we have a few more names to get to in the late round players that we like to draft.
42:58And I am of course scared of the environment, but that's why he goes very, very late.
43:03I have Denzel Boston at number two on the list.
43:06I have decided to take him, well, maybe not decided, but just like I go by my own ranks and I wound
43:13up taking him basically late in every draft I do these days.
43:17And it's interesting. I put Boston and Concepcion back to back.
43:20I have Concepcion one spot ahead. They're like, I don't know, you know, I can't remember 59 and 60.
43:26I can't remember something like that. You'd think as a person who has a podcast about this stuff, I would be, have that information.
43:34It was 54 and 55. I've now looked up my own ranks.
43:38And the funny thing is the Concepcion got a lot of pub and a lot of hype and is going way ahead of where Denzel Boston goes.
43:46And I've actually seen plenty of Browns beat reporters saying that Boston's been the more electric player and Boston is more the
43:53reason why the Browns parted with Cedric Tillman. And nobody really knows what's going to happen.
43:58And my God, the quarterback situation is utter hot garbage.
44:01But again, we're talking 14th round pick here. It's, it's weird to me that there wound up being early so far, like
44:08a pretty big split between the two guys. Agree.
44:11Yeah. I have heard a good drumbeat from Boston this summer.
44:14Do you see, do you, can you squint and see any upside with Sanders?
44:19I, we know Watson is going to be a hot mess.
44:22I almost think that they're throwing Watson out there just to be terrible and just to kick him to the curb or
44:29at least put him to the bench and to just giving him one chance to fail so they can be done with it.
44:36I, I'd like to think that's what the case is.
44:39It's hard to, I think you look at the Browns and assume they're doing anything that makes any sense, but coach better coach Monken running the offense.
44:48Probably. I agree with you that if you're a conceptual guy, tell me why he's definitely better than Denzel Boston.
44:54I realized Boston didn't have the greatest combine, but he's six foot four.
44:58He's not getting any smaller. And I think he's been a quick study this year.
45:03We saw how quickly onboarded Fannin last season. It kills me not to be drafting Fannin because I, again, the quarterback room
45:10and he actually has an expectant ADP, but this is a case where the market has decided conception is the guy you
45:17want and Boston is not the guy you want.
45:19And I agree with your ranking, which is what I think it's more like a either or, you know, 51 49 situation.
45:26Yeah. If I could put a number on it, it's, it's right now.
45:30Concepcion 113th overall on live ADP, Denzel Boston 156th overall, which is just, just odd decision that somebody somewhere is banging a table for Concepcion.
45:38It could work out that way. I guess, I guess the logic is, well, these quarterbacks are so inept that the only
45:45thing they can do is throw the short ones to Fannin and the slot guy and the slot guy is Concepcion.
45:52And I go, Oh, I mean, okay, but really it's not probably going to be quite that like strict, you know, they're
45:59going to move everybody all over everywhere. And also I really love it when my guy scores a touchdown and if there
46:05are any touchdowns in the red zone, the six foot four guy might get them.
46:10And I just don't think anybody knows for sure what's going to happen.
46:14You posed kind of the killer question right at the beginning of your response, which is, is does Sanders and I guess
46:21by proxy Watson have, have any kind of upside to have a more functional offense?
46:26The answer is probably yes. There's, you know, I'm not going to make a bet that they're the 32nd best pass offense in the league.
46:34You know, I'm not going to take them versus the field.
46:37Someone will figure out how to be worse. Do I think it's on the way to being even league average?
46:43I'm going to go ahead and say from what I saw with Sanders last year, probably not.
46:49He's just ponderous. Everything just takes so long. He waits so long.
46:52Pats the ball, pats the ball. It's all a beat late.
46:56Yeah. Yeah. And like, probably not. The answer is probably not, which is why these guys are, you know, it's why Boston's
47:03my 14th round, 15th round pick, but, um, you know, I'll give it, I'll give it the old puncher's chance with the
47:10new coaching staff and cut everybody associated with it in week three.
47:13If it's awful, like I, this is the kind of bet I like to make.
47:18And it's funny how, you know, you've picked a jet and a Raider.
47:22I just picked a Brown. This is where value is.
47:25I say it every year. People decide it's impossible that teams can be good.
47:30And then some of them turn out to be okay.
47:33Also the quarterback room was a clown car last year.
47:36And Fannin had a great season. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great point.
47:40All right. We are at your number one. He's boring.
47:43That's what I understand. You said earlier, but he's your number one guy.
47:47You love, you love grabbing late in drafts. Yeah.
47:50We already have proof of concept that Jawan Johnson can play.
47:53I mean, last year they give him the contract 77 catches, 889 yards.
47:57I realized you'd like more than three touchdowns. Tyler Shuck was probably better than people expected.
48:02Kellen Moore seemed like a right answer. Head coach, they play at a quick pace.
48:07And Jordan Tyson isn't going to play for a couple of months.
48:11I, I don't think he's actually drive. People are drafting thinking, okay, I'm going to crush in the playoffs when Jordan Tyson comes back.
48:18That's not going to be me. If he's old, I'll beck him 2.0.
48:22I'm going to lose that bet. But Jawan Johnson is being drafted in the teens.
48:27Sometimes the late teens at tight end early in the season, you can get them in the Yahoo drafts outside tight end 20.
48:34That's corrected a little bit, but I have them, I think at tight end 11 or 12, but just far ahead of the market ADP.
48:42I have a lot of Jawan Johnson shares. And I think he fits whatever your tight end ethos is, whether you like
48:49to go early, you like to go medium, or maybe you're, you're drafting somebody, a buddy of mine just drafted George Kittle
48:56yesterday, and he needs somebody to get him through the first quarter of the season until he knows what Kittle is.
49:02And Jawan Johnson is the perfect guy for that role.
49:06So everybody listening to the podcast is rolling their eyes because I have Jawan Johnson as my nine among tight ends.
49:12Wow. Well, I finally found somebody who likes Jawan Johnson more than I do.
49:17Good. That's great. I'm glad to be aligned on that.
49:20Now this makes me even, I'm going to move them up.
49:23I'm going to, you know, I'm going to, whatever Harris says, I'm going to move him one slot higher.
49:29How about that? You have to be the highest, no matter what you have to be the highest.
49:35No, I'm just kidding. I'm glad we agree though.
49:37Yeah. It's funny because I have Brenton strange eight.
49:40And so, so strange, you know, winds up being the one I talk about more because, you know, he's just a little
49:47higher and therefore he wound up being the tight end flag player, but Johnson absolutely could have been as well.
49:53Very well said by you fully agree. The situation is great for him.
49:58I think we said it on the show last week, maybe like one of his college quarterbacks was in fact Tyler Shuck for a little while at Oregon.
50:06It worked great. He's essentially a big slot receiver.
50:09He had 77 catches last year. Did you mention like it was, it was terrific.
50:14And he is terrific. Like he's a good player.
50:17He, he makes like crazy one-handed catches. He's, he's also funny that he's 30.
50:21I'm like, Oh, John Johnson. Sure. He's 25, right?
50:24No, he's not. We've been at this for a while, but yeah, I, I, I like it.
50:29I, did you even mention no, no smiling goon Taysom Hill?
50:33You know, like there's, there's, there's a lot. I hadn't even thought about that, but yeah, again, what I love about this
50:39pick too, is unlike a lot of these guys where we're speculating and we're squinting, you have proof of concept.
50:46Jawan Johnson was really good last year. And I always forget because, you know, Shuck was in college, you know, longer than the guys from animal house.
50:54I forget that he was actually at Oregon for a second and Jawan Johnson was there.
50:59So at least it's, it makes sense that they hit the ground running last season and they looked comfortable together.
51:05At least they already knew each other by name.
51:08They'd already run a few reps together. So that, that certainly doesn't hurt, but yeah, Jawan Johnson is, uh, it's, it sounds
51:15like unless I'm in a league with you, he's going to, he's going to be one of my most rostered players.
51:22And I'm, and I'm, and again, I'm even people will say, well, would you be comfortable starting Jawan Johnson in week one?
51:29Yes, absolutely. That would be me too. Absolutely. I would.
51:32I just don't think there's a big difference among the options there, but Johnson, you said it just did it.
51:38And they, they, the saints just took Oscar Delp.
51:41I don't think that's a threat right away. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I don't think that's a threat.
51:47Like what's your stance on Tyson, by the way, are you drafting him?
51:51Are you leaving the door open for him? Are you fading him?
51:55You know, I was super fading him early on and now I still don't get him, but I think he's more now like a what?
52:0310th, 11th round. So it's hard to really super fade that, you know?
52:07Um, I, I, I think it's fine if someone wants to stash him, but it's tough.
52:12Like especially when the bi-weeks start coming around, if your league doesn't have a reserve spot, you know, this kid came with a reputation for injury.
52:20Like he had a hard time in college from what I understand.
52:24He's a good prospect, but, um, yeah, I'm with you that I'll put him, my overall rank is lower than his, even
52:31his current ADP, at least like I'm looking at the live again, live draft on fantasy pros.
52:36Um, but I don't, but it's not outrageous. So like if someone stashed him in the 11th round, I wouldn't be mad.
52:43How about you? Well, you hit on in part of that, you hit on what's, which kind of my ethos here, which is okay, sure.
52:51He looks like a fine stash now when nothing's wrong with your team, everything's going to be wrong with your team in a few weeks.
52:59Look at how injury plagued the league is now in the summer where none of the key guys play a lot in the exhibition season.
53:06And the entire summer, in addition to just practicing and getting ready is all about trying to keep people healthy and we
53:13still can't help people from breaking and soon soon.
53:16The real games are going to start and he's an easy stash now when nothing is wrong with your team.
53:22There's no red ink on your team. That's going to change.
53:26And I don't mean to laugh about it because the NFL is a physical game.
53:30It's an injury game. And then you're going to have to ask yourself tough questions and God forbid you get off to
53:37like a one in three start or something. And then that fifth week comes up and you have guys who aren't playing for buys.
53:45You have guys who aren't playing for injuries. And then it's a lot harder to hold a player like this.
53:51And you know what the worst scenario is, is that you draft Tyson, you can't hold on to Tyson and then somebody
53:58else gets Tyson, you know, somebody else who didn't invest in them, didn't have to hold them, didn't have to use their
54:05storage up on him, picks him up off waivers in week seven or whatever.
54:09And maybe he's useful in the second half of the year.
54:13You know, what Roger Sterling say in Mad Men, the only thing worse not getting what you want is somebody else getting it.
54:20Right. I just don't forget how much of a, a sea of problems you're going to have in fantasy football by like week three or week four.
54:28It's just inevitable. And then in October it becomes the, oh, this is the strangest season.
54:33Every season is a strangest season in its own way.
54:37I often say I don't draft into injuries because injuries are going to find you.
54:41I'm going to have to be in a room that's really fading Tyson before I'm tempted.
54:46So my number one, I guess he's kind of boring, but I think he might be a starting running back.
54:53Tyler Algier. I just get him. I get him in every draft right now.
54:57He's, he's easily like, I mean, he goes around where Jordan Tyson goes.
55:01I'm going to take Algier a thousand times over Jordan Tyson.
55:04You just don't have to spend any kind of price to get him.
55:08I think he probably is the Cardinals week one starter and maybe completely by himself because Jeremiah Love has a high ankle sprain.
55:16I just think we just don't know it yet.
55:19Like they, they're having a hard time. You know, at the very beginning, they couldn't prevent people from learning.
55:24What did Rivers McCown say? We're about to hear about the lowest high ankle sprain in NFL history when it comes to Jeremiah Love.
55:32And besides the fact, like even if he's fine, he plays week one.
55:36Cool. What happens the moment someone ankle tackles him?
55:39You know, I just think that's absolutely not baked into Love's price.
55:43And I think it's absolutely not baked into Algier's price.
55:46Now that we have the news that James Connor begins the year on injured reserve and has to miss at least four
55:53games and didn't do anything in August. So we have no guarantee he comes back at all.
55:58Trey Benson's already out for the year. This massive log jam that we were just like, what are the Cardinals even doing?
56:05It cleared up pretty good, didn't it? Probably a little too much.
56:09I have Love as a bust. I don't like his price.
56:12And I'm taking Algier all over the place. I'm strongly with you on Love being somebody I'm not going to draft.
56:19And you're right. Everything. If you're an Algier guy, everything felt right.
56:22The presumed starter hurt. The veteran with status IR.
56:25We knew they had to do something with the depth chart because they didn't want to keep four running backs.
56:31But you know, Benson doesn't even make the team.
56:34And Algier's a good football player. They gave him a real contract.
56:38Not one of these, okay, just come in and make the minimum or a little bit over it.
56:44They actually paid him real money. He can help you right away.
56:47And who's to say, you can't make any assumptions on when Love comes back or when he comes back to full throttle.
56:54As you mentioned, easy re-injury scenario. You can paint the Cardinals as the dumbest team running Love into the ground in an exhibition game.
57:02It's a very Arizona Cardinals thing to do. But you know, maybe next year, your market now, we can be on the
57:09show in the summer where you talk about the boring veterans because we've certainly talked about a lot of them.
57:15Jacoby Myers, Juwan Johnson, Tyler Algier. But man, you know, this idea, you mentioned this earlier, you teased this earlier about the
57:22idea that if you have some maybe risky upside picks that you smooth them out with the floor guys, you know, the
57:29Myers' and stuff like that, the Shakir's. And I totally agree with that, that you're making a cocktail here and you have to have different ingredients.
57:37And this idea that I'm just going to make hair on fire upside picks every pick of my draft.
57:43That's wrong. You have to, there's a mix involved here.
57:46There's a balance as a yin and a yang.
57:49And I agree with some of those themes that you've put forward with the guys that you mentioned.
57:54And I think Tyler Algier certainly fits that suit as well.
57:58I agree, except for I'll give Algier just a little bit of a chance.
58:02He's been a pretty good player. I mean, does, do we not remember Bajon Robinson's first year when the Cardinals, I mean,
58:09the Falcons couldn't get away from using Algier a ton?
58:12And do we remember last year? Like if David Montgomery is a good player, why isn't Tyler Algier a good player?
58:19They're kind of the same guy. Chris Carson, Chris Rodriguez, they're all kind of the same thing.
58:24It's along an axis. And I get some of like Montgomery's probably a little more explosive than a couple of those guys.
58:31But I think Algier isn't that boring. And especially if Jeremiah Live's hurt.
58:35Ramondre Stevenson, right? I mean, just another good running back, never getting into the Hall of Fame.
58:40You're probably not even like a Pro Bowl guy, but Algier has a thousand yard season on his resume.
58:46He was a good player at BYU. I almost said UW at BYU.
58:51I'm with you on Tyler Algier. And you know, the 5'10", 225, that's kind of the prototype for a running back in the NFL.
58:58Somebody you think can handle 15 or 20 touches.
59:01I think Tyler Algier has been underrated most of his career.
59:04Well, this was very fun. We got some good names.
59:07The honorable mentions that I'll just mention that are going in double-digit rounds that are flag players.
59:13I mentioned Brenton Strange already. Keaton Mitchell in double-digit rounds.
59:16If he lasts that long, I get him there.
59:19Chris Rodriguez mentioned him. Take him in double-digit rounds.
59:22And Matthew Stafford would be my quarterback nominee. It's crazy to me that he goes in the double-digit rounds.
59:27I mean, I guess maybe he goes more like in the ninth now.
59:32People are maybe getting a little wiser, but I'll still just mention him.
59:36Did you have any other honorable mentions? I almost said Keaton Mitchell.
59:39I almost put him on this list. Of course, we'll bet on everything that Mike McDaniel is betting on.
59:45He is Josh McDaniels. We hate him as a head coach.
59:49We love him as an offensive designer. He's going to get that.
59:53By the way, I cannot stop drafting Ladd McConkie.
59:55I think he's going to have a great season.
59:58Perfect fourth-round pick. Thought about Ray Davis. Thought about Mike Washington.
60:02Mitchell would have been probably the next name. We went one deeper.
60:05Mitchell would have been the guy I would have brought up.
60:09Love it. Well, I appreciate you doing this, Scott.
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