0:00It's the Harris Fantasy Football Podcast with your host Christopher Harris.
0:04Welcome! Hey everybody, welcome in! My name is Chris.
0:07This is a show with magnetic powers. Thank you so much for listening today.
0:12Hello there. I hope you're doing well. I am back in the swing.
0:17We are making shows. Five shows per week. Six straight weeks leading up to the 2026 season beginning.
0:23And also along the way getting us all ready for fantasy drafts.
0:28On Monday's show we talked about the camp stories we're most paying attention to.
0:33And the last one you heard us discussing was the dueling potential for protracted camp holdouts for Jameer Gibbs and Bajon Robinson.
0:41As of this morning, boom! Bijan Robinson is signed.
0:44$51 million guaranteed. He is also sealed and delivered.
0:47I do not believe Gibbs will be far behind and we can relax and draft those guys in relative comfort at the top of every non-Superflex draft.
0:57I don't really think it was ever a consideration that Robinson would get deep into August without a new deal, but you
1:05know, you got enough stress in your life. Anyway, about this stupid thing that we talk about and everything else.
1:12Nice to know this is not a stress point going forward.
1:16What else is on a yacht possum's mind? Why, I'm glad you asked.
1:20Time for your snarky email. Oh, this is for Harris.
1:24I sound so good. It sounds like an angel singing.
1:28It sounds exactly like an angel singing. That is what it sounds like.
1:32That's right. Send me your snarky emails to heyharris at harrisfootball.com.
1:36Snark it up. Now, thank you very much for the very many nice emails that I've gotten in the past few days.
1:44The ones are just about how happy you are that the show is back.
1:49Just because I don't read them here doesn't mean I don't love getting them.
1:54You all are absolutely the best and I love you.
1:58And I've gotten a whole bunch of bribe suggestions too, and I'm going to be incorporating those.
2:04But let's do the snarky ones, shall we? Actually, the first one's not snarky at all.
2:10It's Jake Wasikowski in Nebraska. This one came back in the spring.
2:14Hey, Harris. Been with you since day one on the little podcast.
2:18Purchased every almanac. But this year is extra special.
2:21My cousin Riley Nowakowski got drafted in the fifth round to the Steelers.
2:26He's got an incredible story. He's a tight end fullback.
2:30Anything you need him to do player. I know that doesn't qualify for a top 30 almanac profile at a position that shouldn't be in fantasy.
2:39But if there's any way you can put him in the last tight end with one sentence blurb, maybe a cousin Josh blast.
2:47It would be an honor in the almanac or not.
2:51I will be drafting him in every draft. That is lovely, Jake.
2:55Congratulations. You're right. Riley did not make the almanac.
2:58But I hope the shout out here more than makes up for it.
3:03My pal Matt Simon from parts known in New England sent me this one back in May.
3:09Hey, Harris. What the f*** is this? I want a new audio book by the real Christopher Harris, not some fantasy writer
3:17trying to cash in on your good fantasy football name.
3:21And Matt has included a screen capture from audible that says now available from an author you like because AI is great.
3:29And the graphic reads Magi's curse, a new novel from Christopher James Harris.
3:33Matt's email continues. I hope you're doing well, despite having been cursed apparently by the by the Magi.
3:40What did the possums ever do them? I wonder.
3:43Yeah, indeed. Hey, if you like the guy with this name, it's kind of a similar name.
3:49You might like this one. Kenny Krokemo in New Jersey.
3:53Hey, Harris. I teach business classes at a technical high school and a pair of my students presented on NFL salary cap structure, purpose of agents, etc.
4:02for their final project. I know this will probably be the first 100 grade I'll ever give next generation of yacht possums on the way.
4:11And Kenny put a screen capture of this presentation.
4:14These are high school kids who understand this. And the graphic says why the NFL salary cap is nonsense.
4:21The main reasons spread money bonuses restructures contracts. Wonderful.
4:25And Kenny follows it up saying also quick note.
4:28I was an accountant before and hated it. You had an episode a few years ago about talking about why you left ESPN.
4:36That was definitely one of the many, many contributing factors to my career switch.
4:41I've always wanted to say thanks for that. The show is so stupid, but also so great.
4:47That is amazing, Kenny. That's great. Brad S from Parts Unknown.
4:51Hey, Harris. I love the pod so much, but I fear if I'm any nicer, you won't read my email on the pod.
4:59So I'll get to it. Whenever I draft a personal flag player, I always struggle to trade them.
5:06I just have a hard time reassessing their value and letting go of players.
5:11I always find I draft well, but I struggle to make moves throughout the season.
5:16Do you have any insight on your philosophy on this?
5:20Sorry to have such a broad question. It is a broad question, but I think it's a good one.
5:27And we can spend a moment. We've all certainly had that feeling where we believe and we believe.
5:33And then the struggle for that player starts early and we try and believe harder.
5:38You know, now he's a great value. Maybe I should trade for him and all my other leagues.
5:45And then sometimes that's right and it works out.
5:48And sometimes he turns into Chuba Hubbard in 2025.
5:51You know what I mean? I honestly think as so much in this dumb game, as so much in life, there just
5:59isn't going to be one overall answer that can account for all the cases.
6:04Sometimes you just get left holding the bag and it turns out we were just wrong.
6:10I am going to be wrong a lot because I'm making a call on literally, literally every player.
6:17But you have to make a lot of calls just to draft and maintain one single fantasy team.
6:23And so, you know, sometimes we're just going to be wrong.
6:27That's a wishy-washy answer. But Brad, I know a lot of people share the same feeling, the same question.
6:34So I'm glad just to say, I think some level of stubbornness in our beliefs in the NFL as in life can be a good thing.
6:43But there comes a point where we can be too stubborn.
6:47The evidence keeps piling up. Even if it's a little late to recoup full value, there comes a point where we should allow our minds to be changed.
6:57Colin P. from Parts Unknown. Just heard you read the Jaden Daniels profile on a July episode and heard the Cousin Josh
7:05part in which he describes ordering a martini outside the U.S.
7:09And one time he got a pepper-tini. Colin says, the pepper-tini sounded kind of good actually.
7:15I'm surprised Josh didn't love the idea. A pepper-tini and a slice of pizza.
7:20What's more New York than that? Shane Nicholson in Massachusetts.
7:23Hey, Harris. I normally do not miss such important announcements.
7:27Did you not explain why you didn't return to the land of lawnmowers in Massachusetts in the summer?
7:33While I won't take it personally, I do want to know the details.
7:38If you did, in fact, tell the audience why.
7:41Apologies. And I will listen better in the future.
7:44Shane, you know, I'm not sure if I said anything.
7:48The lawnmowers lobbied very hard for my return. But I did stay in Los Angeles this summer.
7:54So I was not a bi-coastal elite Lisa sleeper.
7:57I missed parts of going back. But I hadn't done a summer in LA since that COVID summer of 2020.
8:05And I kind of wanted to see what it would be like.
8:09I knew that I was going to be hunkering down.
8:12Because I knew that cumulative press was being invented.
8:16And the Almanac was being written. And I was also working on a different book.
8:21And I kind of didn't want thunderstorms or humidity.
8:24And I wanted softball. My softball team in Amherst got canceled last summer.
8:29But it was no more insidious than that. And the moment I decided not to go back, I started getting texts from
8:37Massachusetts friends who didn't know I was not coming back.
8:40And they were like, hey, buddy, you want to go golfing?
8:44I'm like, hey, you sent me that text last year.
8:48Maybe we wouldn't be having this conversation. Kevin Kuntz in Minnesota.
8:52Hey, Harris. With you having your own publishing company, Cumulative Press, will you be releasing your sci-fi book you wrote a couple years ago?
9:01I think it was called To Infinite Jest and Beyond.
9:04Sorry, no. I couldn't remember the actual title of the book and inserted the pun.
9:10I really did like the sample chapter, though, and would love to read the entirety of that book.
9:16And I got asked that question several times since talking about Cumulative Press existing.
9:21Thank you, Kevin. Thank you, other folks who asked.
9:24I did, you're right, post a chapter of a very long novel that is more like sci-fi that I wrote.
9:31That's not really sci-fi, just future. But you call that sci-fi, I guess.
9:36I wrote it like over the several years of COVID.
9:40It's long. I did not have success finding a publisher, as we know now.
9:45That was no, that should have been no stopping me.
9:48Honestly, I'm not sure about that one. There's a lot in that book that I'm proud of.
9:54Like, Pound Foolish is ambitious. That one is really ambitious because it takes place 25 years in the future.
10:01There are kind of like world reasons why that one might not see the light of day, because it takes place, you know, 25 years from now.
10:11And some of the stuff that I thought, oh, that could only happen like pretty far into the future kind of started
10:19happening in the actual world in the couple years since I wrote it.
10:23But anyway, it is hard to plan beyond the Pound Foolish situation because it's certainly currently kicking my butt.
10:30But I do thank you so much for asking.
10:34And we can segue into the Pound Foolish questions.
10:37Walker Dennis, East Longmeadow, Mass. Hey, Harris, when do I start getting bribed?
10:41So I'm going to say Friday. Let's officially say the first of the bribes will be announced on Friday.
10:48I'm sifting through the bribery suggestions that many of you sent in.
10:53So far, I guess something like 50 people have pre-ordered a copy of Pound Foolish and sent me a screen cap.
11:00Thank you so much for that. Incredible. That means, you know, the sooner you do it, the sooner you're going to have
11:08a chance to be bribed and win. Possibly, I think the idea is going to be to give people the option of
11:16a few different bribes when they win because different people live different places and have different expectations and things that they would like, etc.
11:24And then maybe a couple of grand prizes later in the month.
11:29So if you'd like to be bribed, go to the show notes of the show.
11:34There's a link there that'll take you to Barnes and Noble where all three versions, paperback, ebook and audio book are all available for pre-order.
11:43Send me a screen cap. You'll be entered in time for Friday.
11:47Julie Redd from Chicago. Not at all about my love life.
11:51Hey, Harris. You've mentioned Pound Foolish a few times, but you haven't really talked about what it's about.
11:58You should do that. It sounds really good. One question also.
12:02Do I have to have read Slotback Rhapsody to understand Pound Foolish since it's a sequel?
12:08Thank you, Julie. And I'm not going to talk about dating.
12:12That's great. It's so nice not to have to talk about.
12:15Okay. So anyway, the first answer. I don't think you'll be lost reading the new book if you haven't read the first one.
12:24I think you might get a little extra out of it if you know Slotback because the narrator of my first novel
12:32that I published while I was still at ESPN.
12:35It was the, you know, I had graduated from MFA at UMass and it was the first novel I got published by someone else.
12:43Not me. Way back in 2011. So that guy is one of the main characters of Pound Foolish, but it's more like Easter eggs.
12:52You won't be lost at all. It's not like they start talking about stuff that you wouldn't understand without reading Slotback.
13:00As for what Pound Foolish is about. So there's a serial killer in Detroit and people on the local football team start
13:07thinking maybe it's a player who's doing the killing.
13:11So it's definitely a mystery. It's also just about an NFL season from the beginning to the end what it takes to make it through a season.
13:20And it's also about I guess, you know, the NFL's place in contemporary American life.
13:26How big it is. What that means. The compromises we make as fans.
13:30You know, we talk about that all the time on the show.
13:35We're rooting for laundry. The cognitive dissonance it requires to be NFL fans.
13:39The stuff we have to ignore. And we all definitely do.
13:43I'm not calling. I'm a huge NFL fan, but I know I have to make compromises.
13:49So yeah, I mean, there's a big mystery. There's kind of a philosophy of football in there as well.
13:56And finally, Troy Jacobs in Baton Rouge. Hey, Harris, I want to support you, but I do not listen to or read fiction books.
14:05Can I buy a copy for somebody else? So I very much appreciate that.
14:10And I got that from a few other folks as well, because this is the best audience ever assembled.
14:16What I'll say about that is, first of all, you know, if you want to buy a book and not read it, that's okay too.
14:25I don't mind. And then as far as an exchange program goes, I'm open to suggestions.
14:31These books are being published by me, by Cumulative Press, but they are printed on demand when they're paperbacks.
14:38So it's tough for me to like take money from one person and then send a book to another because I don't have the books.
14:47But maybe we can come up with some kind of idea.
14:51I also had one listener volunteer to buy several copies of books for folks who might otherwise not have the money for it.
14:59Amazing. Also hard to implement, but like I'm open.
15:02If anyone has ideas about how to make that happen or you want to help make it happen, I'm certainly listening.
15:10Hey, Harris at HarrisFootball.com. It's amazing. Thank you so much for volunteering.
15:14All of your generosity is incredible. I really appreciate you.
15:18Today's kickoff. Okay. On today's show, the first full week of shows gets us rolling with some topics we've done before.
15:25First up, I'm going to talk about talent. I did, after all, spend, I guess, probably hundreds of hours rewatching the players
15:33play this summer and it all gets boiled down to the film grades in the Almanac.
15:39So I'm going to talk through some of my top talents that I judged.
15:44You'd probably find some talent grade changes from last year's Almanac that put some players in a higher echelon for my expectations for 2026.
15:53After that, my guest will be Ross Tucker. You get to hear him call NFL games for CBS during the fall.
16:00He also makes an annual pilgrimage to the little podcast that could when I ask him to talk about some offensive lines
16:08he's got his eye on for the upcoming season.
16:11I think you'll have fun listening. I appreciate you being here today.
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17:17of today's show because I'm going to talk to you a little bit about some players I observed as being exceptional and
17:25not lemon flavored for this year's Almanac. In particular, while there are appendices in the back of the Almanac, so you can
17:33see all the individual film grades that are listed throughout the book, but they're all lined up by attribute in the appendices.
17:41So like quarterback arm strength, running back speed, wide receiver hands, tight end routes.
17:46Let's talk about some adjustments that I made kind of on the positive side.
17:51Mostly I've won negative to some players in the 2026 version of the document and how that maybe factors into the way
17:59that I'm ranking them here now that we're in August.
18:02I'll start out with Drake May. Break out the footy pajamas.
18:06I know. Listen, I have panic about Drake May.
18:09I remember CJ Stroud's second year. I remember Jaden Daniels' second year.
18:14This is going to be May's second year as the full-time starter.
18:18It's easy to believe that a young quarterback is master of his destiny only to have it revealed after the fact that
18:26everything was aligned perfect for that one year. But then you just, you know, things get off kilter and boom, suddenly we're not even rostering a fantasy starter.
18:36May is my QB4 for the moment. So I guess consider me hooked.
18:41I've got the fish hook in my jaw. Will I likely wind up with the QB4 the way I tend to draft quarterbacks in a single quarterback league?
18:51Valid point, but not impossible. As long as other people in the league I'm playing in are waiting for quarterback as well, I could get him.
19:00And believe me, if anything, the grades that I gave May are even more disgusting than the fact that I'm rating him QB4.
19:08Because May already had an A grade for his arm strength after his rookie year.
19:14We all knew he had a howitzer. But it's the accuracy grade.
19:18I bumped him from a B plus to a straight A.
19:22The kid tied for second among all quarterback qualifiers in air yards at the target.
19:27And yet, led the league in completion percentage. 72%.
19:30And that is just hard to do. You're throwing it way down the field and you're leading the league in throwing percentage.
19:38And of course, I don't care so much about the numbers.
19:42I was watching this film to write his profile, which I read in July on the show.
19:48As the numbers would indicate, we're not just talking about a bunch of dump offs that lead to a 72% completion percentage.
19:56You know, I'll grant you that the Patriots schedule was very easy.
20:01And I thought they played better defenses than they did offenses.
20:05They played terrible offenses. That's why they won those games.
20:08But for sure, it's a lot easier to be more accurate and to take chances down the field when you're playing from ahead.
20:16And the other team is trying to make something happen and maybe sending pressure at you.
20:22It was just great film. That's all I can say.
20:26It's like I'd love to be a contrarian. But May has that thing to me that when I see him bounce up
20:34on his toes and throw on time, I just trust that throw is going to be awesome and perfect and often way
20:42downfield and into a very tight window. It was a revelation to watch it around the second time this summer.
20:49Maybe it'll burn me. Maybe he'll turn out just like the other one year wonders.
20:54But for right now, I certainly did buy it.
20:57For the speed side of running back. The two guys who got an A-plus for speed were unchanged from last year.
21:05Jameer Gibbs, Devon Achan. And the two guys who got an A-plus for elusiveness, also the same as last year, Achan and Christian McCaffrey.
21:13But one change that I'm thinking about what to talk about here.
21:18It stood out for me just for the straight ahead speed stuff.
21:22He changed teams as well. Travis Etienne. Bumped him up from a B-plus to an A-minus.
21:28That's not like a massive upgrade. But it's also not really something I often find myself doing when I watch these film
21:36reviews for players who've been in the league. Like, he's 27.
21:40He's been in the league five years. Now, he didn't play his rookie year.
21:45So we've got film on him for four. But usually that's enough.
21:49You know, there aren't usually often a lot of revelations film-wise when you're watching a player that far along in his career.
21:57I guess I'm not busting down any doors just saying.
22:01You know, it seems obvious now that Travis Steve must have been playing hurt in 2024 when the mapmaker Cartavious Bigsby kind
22:08of took over that Jacksonville backfield in the later part of the year.
22:13But, yeah. Etienne was really good in his last year with the Jags, 2025.
22:18He was that team's best offensive player. He made things go.
22:22So, I grant you that it's still a little disappointing that he's not as physical as you might expect at 215 pounds.
22:30But as far as speed goes, I thought he was sharper than ever turning upfield and just dusting guys.
22:37He did break a few tackles here and there.
22:40Probably never going to be headed toward elite goal line status because he does have a tendency to bounce and to dance.
22:48But his speed was convincing in his walk year.
22:51And, of course, he's in New Orleans now. As we talked about on the show in July, Alvin Kamara decides to take another pay cut to stick around.
23:01Not great. As we say, there's always another running back.
23:05That's the NFL now. But when that other guy is a franchise icon, he can be a little harder to do away with.
23:13Etienne absolutely has it in him to be a space player and catch a bunch of passes.
23:19But what are you keeping Kamara around for if you're not reserving that for him?
23:25But anyway, I have Etienne RB19 right now. And I think, I guess, you know, I kind of think it's because of
23:32the speed plays that I saw this summer. On the power side of running back, the climber who climbed the most, Javante Williams.
23:41A long ago flag player. But as I said in the almanac, I don't really get to reach back in time and
23:49celebrate that because we missed that year. It took another year.
23:53But for me, Williams climbs to an A- in power.
23:56He ran mean last year. I don't believe for one second the Cowboys knew what they had when they gave Miles Sanders
24:04basically the same free agent contract they gave to Williams.
24:08And they drafted Jaden Blue and Phil Moffa. But I give him credit for coming to the realization pretty quick.
24:15Now, Javante isn't pretty quick. He doesn't really make that many people miss.
24:19But he sure does like to give horsey rides.
24:23This was a pile moving running back last year and a tackle breaker.
24:27I remember this long run that I wrote about in the almanac for his profile.
24:33It was against the Jets. I think I had probably forgotten about it until I was writing his profile.
24:40He had a defensive tackle around his legs, both arms.
24:43And he just kicked himself free from this monster.
24:46And there was nobody else. And it was off to the races.
24:51Although, notably, he didn't actually score. I think it gained like over 60 yards.
24:56But he got run down. Nobody has a backfield to himself.
25:00Let's stop thinking that. Malik Davis will probably annoy you at times.
25:04But, I mean, give me Javante in the fourth, I would be thrilled.
25:09In the third, I would probably do it. I might not be as thrilled.
25:14But, like, close in touchdown thumper. Good physical player.
25:17A- power. I can see myself doing it. You want a big climber?
25:22Now, I know his foot is partially detached from his body.
25:25I'm glad we got that piece of stupidity over here early in the offseason.
25:30Let's talk about Rome Odunze. I bumped him in elusiveness among wide receivers from a B- to an A-.
25:37I know. The foot doesn't feel right. Everybody panic.
25:41Except, as I told you he would, Odunze just laughed at everybody.
25:45Because they took his awkward turn of phrase about how his foot felt not so great at the end of last year, you know, into the offseason.
25:55And they turned it into, this is a disaster.
25:58All I know is that before footgate really became a thing, Andy Behrens and I undertook a deep dive into Odunze's second year tape.
26:06And yes, late in the year, played like a hurt guy.
26:10No question. But before that, really good. His stop start.
26:14He's six foot three. He is agile for six foot three.
26:18I said it on the film Futures with Andy.
26:21There were times before the injury, I thought he looked like Nico Collins.
26:26There are double moves. He's probably not the same kind of quick as Luther Burden.
26:31I also gave Burden an A- in this category, the elusiveness category.
26:35But it is different. Burden is much more your electric runner, the water bug type.
26:41And Odunze isn't that, but he's just smoother and more polished and more deliberate.
26:46But still, dang. I did not expect to find him as quick out of breaks as I did when we rewatched that film.
26:54And he probably could have had a bigger year even before the foot bugged him last year.
27:00But Caleb Williams is just really inconsistent. Anyway, I don't know anything really about ADP right now.
27:06But certainly, folks in my orbit have been telling me that Luther Burden seems likely to go way higher than Rome Odunze.
27:14That is not how I have them ranked right now.
27:18As long as Odunze's foot stays attached, that's probably how I'm going to keep them.
27:23For the biggest hands jump into elite territory, I'm not going to go on and on about him.
27:30Pretty nice success story for the pod last year.
27:33Jackson Smith and Jigba was a B-plus in the hands department after his second year.
27:38And yeah, that was wrong. He's an A. He has to go do it again.
27:44You know, it's one year. Not a made man yet.
27:47But we're drafting him like he is. What a damn performance all around.
27:52That just includes innumerable wonderful hands grabs. Just all over the field.
27:56Fantastic work. One official drop all season. It was a bad one.
28:01It was in December against the Colts. It was a shallow cross where he might have scored an 80-yard touchdown.
28:08Would have liked that. It clanged off his hands.
28:11But he didn't do it any other time all year.
28:15What a season. Certainly, even though, yes, it's one year and things fell right for him.
28:20And defenses are absolutely going to be keying on him.
28:24No question. So, like all the other players, we still can get burned.
28:29But he's earned enough trust out of me to be the number two overall wide receiver on my board.
28:35Behind only Jamar Chase and a first round pick.
28:39If I'm selecting later in the first half of the first round.
28:43At tight end. My favorite position. Let's see. The two fastest tight ends in my eyes are Brock Bowers and Kyle Pitts.
28:51I think one of those is good. And the other not so much.
28:55I guess maybe a change I expected to make more so in the other direction.
29:01I dropped him a little bit on his routes.
29:04But only down to a B+. And I kept his speed rank at a C.
29:09Because we all know this is it. This is probably the end for Travis Kelsey.
29:15But he's still my tight end 11. And I'm going to admit.
29:19You know, I kind of went into watching that film thinking, Let's make him tight end 19.
29:25Let's give him a D for speed. He's not.
29:28He's a C. I would say-ish. Could be a C+.
29:32Even. And he's faster than like latter day Dallas Goddard.
29:36Or at least the version of Dallas Goddard. Who scored all those touchdowns but could barely run last year.
29:42He's faster than all of the lumbering Oves. Rookies accepted, of course.
29:47Who play tight end for the Steelers. And I downgraded him.
29:51I took him from a B+. From an A- down to a B+.
29:55In routes. But I still gave him a B+.
29:59Like I found that film to be kind of sneaky.
30:02He's not running past anybody. And he really wasn't making any big plays.
30:07But he's crafty. I, you know, he knows where to settle down.
30:11He pushes off a lot. He turns 37 in October.
30:15Quarterback coming off a torn ACL. I did come away from watching the Kelsey film feeling like, Okay, last year he did 76 for 851 and five touchdowns.
30:25He kind of did it in his sleep. I kind of think it's still possible.
30:30I don't think the ceiling is very high. But I did not expect to think the floor would be high.
30:37Kind of think it is. So anyway, fun for me to dive back into these grades.
30:43And remember what I changed and why. You can, of course, find all the profiles with all the film grades in the Almanac if you so desire.
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32:00Check it all out. FantasyCares.org. Today's guest. And today's guest is our friend Ross Tucker.
32:05You can find him on the Ross Tucker Football Podcast.
32:09On which I guested. I guested today. We recorded it yesterday, but we don't need to tell the folks that.
32:16The magic of recording things. That's out right now.
32:19That was a fun segment that we did together.
32:22And now Ross is here. He also hosts the Even Money podcast.
32:26A little wagering. He also hosts the College Draft podcast.
32:30Because he has a lot of shows. Which is why he is a very, very busy man.
32:36And of course, you may know, he also helps cover the Eagles in the preseason.
32:42And he covers, calls NFL games on CBS. He knows a lot.
32:46It's Ross Tucker. Hi, Ross. Christopher, what's up, man?
32:49Long time no talk. Yeah, man. I like how when we say hello beforehand, you're like, what's going on, Chris?
32:56And then we hit the button. You go, hi, Christopher.
33:00You know what? I've asked this before. I swear I go back and forth.
33:05Give me like the lowdown. Because I think it's interesting when someone's an adult.
33:10Give me the lowdown between Chris and Christopher. Christopher just sounds like we don't know each other.
33:16Because I'm so used to being called Chris. So when people, because most people on the show call me Chris.
33:23Or they call me Harris. You can call me Harris if you want.
33:28But you can also call me Christopher. It's fine.
33:31It doesn't matter. Well, it's funny because you're listed everywhere, Christopher.
33:35It's true. And even when we used to be at the Four Letter Network today, I think you used to say Christopher Harris.
33:43I can't remember. I did. At any rate, Chris is a lot easier.
33:48Yeah, man. I know. It's all good. So, all right.
33:52Well, we have you on every year to do this particular thing.
33:56Because it's a thing that you have professional experience with.
33:59You used to play offensive line in the NFL.
34:03And I don't mean to suggest that it's the only thing you know about the NFL.
34:08Because I just want to... I mean, we had you on the Yacht Club show.
34:14Me and Andy Behrens did back in the winter.
34:17It was an awesome show. If you haven't listened.
34:20Just one of my favorite that we did the entire winter.
34:24And we got a full appreciation for your story.
34:27You know, how you became a sports fan. How you became interested both in playing and announcing games.
34:34And, you know, the audience knows this. So, this is going to sound like I'm fluffing you up a little bit.
34:41But I talk about you a lot on the show as the games go by.
34:47Because you are truly very, very good at the job of being an analyst.
34:52Like an in-game analyst. Processing what you see in real time.
34:56And being able to say it in an interesting way.
34:59Is not something I take for granted. I watch all the stupid games.
35:04And not that many people do it. So, I just want you to know that I don't consider you only an O-line guy.
35:12Even though that's what we're going to talk about here.
35:16Well, you say that every time. And I mean this in all sincerity.
35:21It means a lot. It really does. Because, you know, there aren't that many people like you.
35:27That actually go through and watch all of the games.
35:30But I know several that do. Probably a mutual friend of ours.
35:35I'm sure you know him. Greg Rosenthal. For sure.
35:38Who does the NFL Daily Podcast for NFL.com. I've known Greg for a long time.
35:43He goes through and watches all the games. And there are others as well.
35:48And it's really humbling and really cool. That the people that actually watch all the games.
35:54Are the ones typically that reach out and say.
35:57No, you don't understand man. I'm not just saying this to you because I know you.
36:03Or because you're on the show. I watch all the games.
36:07And you are really good. So, I take that as the ultimate compliment.
36:12By the people that I know are watching. Like it's great when one person.
36:17Says, I thought you did a great job. And it's, you know.
36:21There's always going to be people that say. One person says, I didn't like you.
36:26Whatever. That doesn't matter. It's when you know someone really.
36:30Is taking in that large of a sample size.
36:33Right. And that I still stand out to them positively.
36:37And you know football. And you're really into it.
36:40That really means a lot. So, I appreciate you saying it.
36:44Feel free to say it like five or ten more times.
36:48During today's episode. Feel free to tell everybody you know.
36:51That's my running line. When someone says, dude, you're really good.
36:55I really like you. I'm like, thanks man. Tell everybody you know.
37:00Tell everybody you know. Tell the CBS exec. I hear there's maybe a vacancy at CBS.
37:05So, I'm not going to talk about that with you right now.
37:10Let's talk offensive lines. You nominate. Every year you come on.
37:14You nominate six interesting offensive lines. Sometimes for the good, interesting.
37:18Sometimes for the bad, interesting. And we kind of just walk through them.
37:22We'll get to them as fast as we can here.
37:26So, we can get to all of them. And maybe talk through the implications.
37:31I know just because you're very close to the Philly situation.
37:35And you do call their preseason games. You want to talk about the Eagles offensive line.
37:41Which was very banged up last year. But there are questions about whether it was just about injury last season.
37:48Exactly. And I think anybody listening can Google offensive line rankings.
37:52And there are people out there that have them.
37:55You know, Warren Sharp or PFF or whoever. Right?
37:58Go ahead and you can find rankings. What I think is a little bit more interesting from my perspective.
38:05is to try to provide some context of where teams might be ranked.
38:10Or where people perceive that they are. And why I think there's actually a decent amount of variance.
38:16For where they could be. Or try to provide context for what the range of outcomes is.
38:22So, I picked six teams, Chris, that for various reasons, I have my eye on.
38:28Because there's a wide range of outcomes for just how good they're going to be this year as a unit.
38:35And by the way, just as an aside, I think we've talked about this before.
38:40You're really only as good as your weakest link as an offensive line.
38:45And I say this to people all the time.
38:48I would rather have five average offensive linemen than have three all pros and two below average.
38:54Because there's really not that much the all pros can do to help the two below average guys.
39:01And what do you think the defense are going to do?
39:05They're going to hunt up those two below average guys.
39:08And they're going to get after them. And yes, you can try to help them and you can slide to them and all those things.
39:17But it's more important that you're not bad than it is that you're really good as individual across the line, if that makes sense.
39:26So, with that context, let's start with the Eagles because they do have a lot of really good players.
39:33And they have for years. And they're typically at the top of all of these O-line rankings.
39:39And I would submit to you, based on how they played last year, they probably don't deserve to be ranked as high as they are.
39:48Sure. You know, if you looked at just how they performed pass protection, how they performed in the run game last year,
39:56you would say, okay, that was not a top five offensive line.
40:00But yet, you see all the O-line rankings out there and they're in the top five of all of them, or at least most of them.
40:09Yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah, and probably deservingly so.
40:13And so, the two areas that you really need to think about, their center, Cam Juergens and left guard, Landon Dickerson, both
40:21fought through really bad injuries to play in the Super Bowl two seasons ago.
40:26As a result, they had off-season surgery. And so, they were rehabbing all off-season.
40:31And then, Chris, they both got hurt again during the season.
40:35Landon Dickerson got hurt during training camp and had a second surgery before the season started and was basically fighting through that,
40:43you know, and trying to recover from that all year.
40:46And then Cam Juergens had a second injury. I don't believe he had to have it operated on, but he missed, like,
40:54the Packers games and others with his injury during the season.
40:58So, both these guys suffered multiple injuries. It affected their performance.
41:02And notable for touchdown scoring, it affected the tush push because Landon Dickerson is the number one driver of it.
41:09Both those guys reportedly went to Columbia to get stem cell treatment.
41:14So, they've been practicing thus far. It looks like they're a lot healthier than they were last year.
41:20But between those two guys and Lane Johnson missing the second half of the season with plantar fasciitis, I mean, you had a bunch of injuries.
41:30Three of their top five offensive linemen either weren't playing at all or were dealing with a number of ailments.
41:37So, you would think, number one, that they'll be better just based on those guys being healthier.
41:43But then with the new offense, the new offense is much more offensive line friendly.
41:48In the past, you know, there was not a ton of play action.
41:53They had a lot of straight drop back passing where the offensive tackles were on islands.
41:59If you listen to Lane Johnson and Jordan Mailata, they are absolutely raving about the ability to have help as pass protectors
42:07and to run more play action, which is a lot easier pass protection for an offensive line than is straight drop back.
42:14So, I would say the combo of injuries and the new, more offensive line friendly offensive scheme under new coordinator Sean Mannion
42:22really gives the Eagles a high, high ceiling and probably a high floor for just how good they could be.
42:30I mean, they could get back to being theoretically that 2024 line where I thought they were clearly by far the best offensive line in the NFL.
42:39Yeah, I mean, it would be great news for Saquon.
42:43But let's talk about the Chargers because they obviously became a wasteland after week four last year.
42:49They lose both starting tackles. Now both guys are back?
42:52Question mark? Question mark? Like, I don't love seeing that Joe Alt still wasn't ready to partake fully in training camp to
43:00start, but I assume they better have an answer.
43:04They better have Slater in already. Well, there's actually a lot of similarities between everything I just said about the Eagles and the Chargers.
43:12They also have a new offensive scheme and system with Mike McDaniel, which is, you know, the Shanahan-McVay tree, which is more offensive line friendly.
43:21They also have, you know, their two best offensive linemen coming off of major injuries and Slater at left tackle, Alt at right tackle.
43:30What I find interesting in particular about the Chargers offensive line is the interior.
43:35You know, I don't love question marks, Chris. A lot of question marks.
43:39How does Slater come back from the health injury?
43:43How does Alt come back from the injury? Then, Biotish finished the year with an injury in Washington.
43:49He'll be their center. Jake Slaughter at left guard played center at Florida.
43:54As a guy that played both, left guard is significantly harder than center from a pass protection standpoint.
44:00Is Jake Slaughter going to be ready to roll as a pass blocker at left guard?
44:06And then Cole Strange, you know, it didn't really work out for him in New England.
44:12He did some positive things last year. Yeah, he did some positive things last year with Mike McDaniel in Miami, but there
44:20are legitimate questions at all five spots. spots. It might work out really well.
44:25Sometimes it does, but I prefer lines that are going into a season with as few question marks as possible, whereas there
44:33are five legitimate question marks across the board for that Chargers offensive line.
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45:51We are back with Ross and we are talking about some offensive lines with some high variability, some upside, but some scary downside.
45:59Who do you want to talk about next, Ross?
46:02Let's do Carolina because, you know, they've obviously been the subject of a lot of conversation already this season because of the
46:10injuries really everywhere but in particular on the offensive line.
46:14The tackles. Yeah, so they'll probably be fine in the interior, not really worried about them, but at the tackles, you know,
46:22Taylor Moten with these blood clots, they say it's going to go into the season.
46:27Nobody seems to really know how long it will go into the season.
46:32They did sign Rashid Walker because they knew Iquanu was coming off of the injury.
46:37I thought it was, you know, a little surprising how tepid the market was for Rashid Walker.
46:43So, at least to start the year, they'll have Rashid Walker and it appears the rookie Monroe Freeling at right tackle.
46:51I thought their offensive line was a strength last year.
46:54That was a positive, especially in the run game.
46:58I don't know that that's going to be the case because both those guys, you know, Freeling obviously being not only a
47:06rookie but a young rookie, Walker in a new system, those are just guys to keep an eye on.
47:12Obviously not the way the Panthers were hoping to draw it up.
47:17I think that they felt like Moten was locked in and then maybe Freeling and Walker could compete for that left tackle job.
47:25Instead, they both have to play. And then, by the way, that always means one of those guys goes down, then you're
47:33going to essentially your fifth tackle and that's a guy that the Panthers never were expecting to play.
47:39Yeah, so the left tackle, Aquano, he hurt himself in the playoffs, right?
47:44He ruptured patellar tendon. Am I right about that?
47:47Yeah, so they knew he was going to be out.
47:51Right. So this is a, he's a good, good player.
47:54I don't think people realize what a good left tackle he is and that's, that's a big loss.
48:01When you think about that Carolina running game and Rico Dowdle moves on and, like, I, you know, I have a history
48:09with Chuba Hubbard where I really wanted him to be good last year.
48:13He got hurt himself and wasn't good. Is this, is this a siren for you for fantasy purposes to go, okay, don't,
48:21don't get too aggressive with the likes of Chuba Hubbard and, you know, Jonathan Brooks himself coming back from major injury?
48:29Well, yeah, especially because with both those guys and ETN, I, it feels like they're going to spread the wealth there too.
48:37Um, I think, you know, the reports indicate people I've talked to that they really do want to lean on the run
48:45game to protect the tackles, to protect Bryce Young.
48:48Uh, I don't know that they love their receiving core.
48:51So, I think that all those guys are going to get touches and you're more the expert on this than me, but it feels like it's anybody's guess.
49:01I mean, obviously Hubbard's, uh, in the lead, but it's anybody's guess just how they divvy up those touches ultimately.
49:09Yeah. I mean, I've, I've said it already said it twice on the show today.
49:14Like there's no such thing as a running back who gets everything anymore.
49:19So you're really looking for a good player who's got the lead and maybe Hubbard can be that, but I said that last year.
49:27And you're right though, like better for the running game that, you know, better have a good interior line than, than tackles
49:35because you can protect the tackles with the running game.
49:39As you said, it's, it is a good point.
49:42Um, the Ravens offense that, that line last year, I mean that entire offense last year just got decimated.
49:49I guess we could argue the entire team got decimated because the defense was a mess by the end of the season too.
49:57Lamar was hurt. Only guy who wasn't hurt was 89 year old Derrick Henry.
50:02Isn't, isn't, isn't 33. Isn't that really old? Wow.
50:0533. Wow. He's ancient compared to you and me, Ross.
50:09Um, how are you feeling about the Ravens effort to reconstruct that offensive line?
50:14Well, I'll just say this about Derrick Henry. Uh, he is a unicorn.
50:19I mean, if you go back and see the usage in high school and college and for him to still be playing
50:27at this level, at that size, I would have never thought this was possible.
50:32I, I've been telling people to sell Derrick Henry for like four or five years.
50:37So I'm the wrong guy. I just thought the amount of punishment he's taken, the wear and tear, the usage, the size.
50:45And yet, I mean, he just keeps doing it.
50:48The guy eats like one meal and it's like 10 chicken breasts at eight o'clock at night.
50:54I don't know whatever he's doing. It's incredible, but the offensive line, they have a new offense as well with Declan Doyle.
51:02So you're going to see a lot of more under center from them.
51:07Stop me if you heard this before. More under center, more play action, blah, blah, blah.
51:12But they've totally revamped the interior of the offensive line.
51:16You know, Ethan Posich should be the center. He's coming off a major injury.
51:21And then they brought back Simpson, who had been there and then went to the Jets.
51:27They took Vega Ione in the first round out of Penn State.
51:31So, you know, I'm a big believer in continuity and chemistry up front.
51:36So, when you've got a line that is three new guys, I only played left guard at Penn State.
51:43Seems like they're going to have them play right in Baltimore.
51:47You know, I don't know that that's been determined yet, but there's just, there's, again, those question marks.
51:53And if they get answered in the affirmative, then that's a great sign and that, you know, they'll probably have a pretty good line.
52:02But, I have question marks for every one of the interior guys.
52:06And so, not just individually question marks, but then them working together collectively, there's a lot that needs to be worked out there.
52:14Is Ronnie Stanley still, you know, people, I mean, he's been around a long time and he's been a prototype left tackle for a long time also.
52:24He's also going to be 33 coming up. Is he still elite?
52:28I didn't think either one of their tackles played as well as I anticipated them playing last year.
52:35I would say that with both Ronnie and Rosengarten.
52:38I mean, they're fine, but I think there was some thought that maybe those guys would be one of the better combos in the NFL.
52:47I did not think that they performed to that level, either side.
52:51Who do you want to talk about next? Let's go, the last two teams I want to talk about are the Titans and the Browns.
53:00I think the Titans are fascinating because, you know, I have Greg Cosell, who I'm a big fan of, the 47-plus year
53:08veteran of NFL films, which is just incredible. He comes on my show every week, the Raw Soccer Football Podcast, twice a
53:16week, by the way, during the season, so we get through all the games.
53:21And he was down, this is super important, he was down at Titans minicamp, I don't know if he's been at training
53:29camp yet, but they specifically brought in Austin Schlottman to play center because the offensive coordinator, Brian Daybolt, had him with the
53:37Giants, trusts Schlottman, knows that Schlottman knows his offense, and is a smart guy.
53:42But what Greg said, Chris, is that they want to go up-tempo.
53:46They want to go up-tempo, and to go up-tempo, you have to have a center that really sees it, can get the
53:54guys lined up quick, make the call, and go.
53:57So this isn't just an offensive line observation, this is a, for any fantasy guys on the Titans, we like volume, we
54:05like up-tempo, we like a lot of snaps, we like moving fast.
54:09So I feel like that's notable for Cam Ward and Pollard and Carnell Tate and anybody you want to throw in there,
54:17and I thought that would be a good nugget for your listeners, Chris, is that the expectation is that the Titans are
54:25going to try to really something to watch because guys like Volson at right guard, Schlottman at center, you know, these are
54:33guys that are not considered even average starters in the NFL and yet the Titans have them currently pegged to be next to each other up front.
54:43Nothing like going fast when you stink. You know, that's actually a really good point.
54:48I'm not going to say the Titans stink. What I will say is that, you know, they're obviously not favored to win
54:56a lot of games and are projected to win a lot of games.
55:01You typically when you feel that way, you want to shorten the game.
55:05You want to milk clock. You want to take longer on the clock, but they have their reasons and they clearly feel
55:13like with Cam Ward and with their skill guys that they might be best suited to an up-tempo offense because evidently, unless
55:21they're lying to Greg, that's the plan. Right. I mean, first of all, everybody kind of says that in August and then
55:29you get hit in the mouth and you go, oh, I guess we can't go fast.
55:35And I didn't really mean nothing like going up-tempo when the team stinks.
55:40I meant like you think these two new guys with the Titans Schlottman and Volsen are like not, they haven't been good players in the league yet.
55:49And so it's scary a little bit to go up-tempo with players, offensive linemen who aren't good.
55:55But then again, they might be better than we think and they might coach them up.
56:01And I just, everybody listening knows this. I mean, I want Titans.
56:05I want Dolphins. I want Jets. I want Raiders, whatever, whoever the Cardinals, like I'll draft those, not early, but like in
56:13a fantasy draft, those guys will get ignored. The good players on those teams will get ignored because everybody will decide they're
56:21bad and then we get to the season and half of them will turn out to be pretty good and the Titans
56:29might be one of them and it might be for exactly the reason you're talking about.
56:35Plenty of examples of teams that turn it around from year to year.
56:39Lastly, the Browns. I think we even talked about the Browns on the show when you came on last year and we
56:47talked about well, you know, they're trying it again.
56:51It's the same old guys who we all know the names of and they're going to see if they can make it
56:58work despite the fact they all get injured. It clearly did not work.
57:03They have finally decided to blow it up. What do you think?
57:07this is the grand experiment. I can't remember another team doing this where they essentially moved on from all five starting offensive
57:15linemen and it's more or less an entirely new group.
57:19I know Tevin Jenkins was on the team last year and got some playing time but he wasn't.
57:25Wyatt Teller was the right guard. It wasn't Tevin Jenkins.
57:29So to draft Spencer Fano to bring in Zion Johnson, Elton Jenkins, Titus Howard.
57:34By the way, all those guys have done some good things in the league and there's a very real chance that the Browns offensive line performs well.
57:44We just haven't seen this. We just haven't seen a team start free agency with zero offensive linemen, zero starting offensive linemen
57:52and yet that is the tactic that this Browns team is taking.
57:56I can't wait to see it. I think continuity and chemistry really matter.
58:01They're kind of going the other way and maybe these guys can build it together.
58:06The good news is most of them have played a decent amount of football so it's not like it's three or four
58:14rookies up there but I think it's going to be wildly entertaining to see how well this Browns offensive line can play
58:22especially early given all the new guys kind of all being thrown together at once.
58:27And I got to be honest like I don't know Spencer Feneau from a hole in the ground he's probably good he
58:35got taken really high in the draft cool he's a rookie but I've seen enough Zion Johnson in my life I've seen
58:43enough Titus Howard in my life to be honest you're right they've done some good things but like the Chargers were desperate
58:51for offensive line help and Zion Johnson was there and part of the reason they were desperate for help is because he
58:59stunk so I'm scared I mean I know stunk is too harsh and these things are on a great I'm saying it
59:07for a fact but you know if you're if you're assembling a team of the Avengers and two or three of them
59:15are you know your your door dash representative I suspect that there might be some hiccups let's put it that way well
59:22yes the question especially early and that's the case for a lot of these lines the question is how quickly do they
59:30gel the guys come back from injury the guys on new teams the guys in new offenses that's kind of the you
59:38know the billion dollar question is how quickly these lines gel throughout the year how are they playing in December is what
59:46really matters for both fantasy football and and for real football for sure and like Elton Jenkins has always been a pretty
59:54good player you know I think the Packers probably would have liked to hang on to him I'm not down on every
60:02single member of that offensive line I don't know about as much about them I know what gets said about them but
60:10I'm not really a great evaluator of technique so I will admit it's possible that Titus Howard's better than I know and
60:18the Texans kind of just couldn't figure him out I gotta say I'm a little skeptical about Zion Johnson but we'll see
60:26excellent well good good conversation about these high variability offensive lines thank you so much for coming on Ross if you'd like
60:33to hear Ross every day he does a podcast like we do a podcast every day it's Ross Tucker football and like
60:41like Ross mentioned Greg Cosell who's amazing comes on every week twice during the season there's also the even money podcast if
60:49you'd like some handicapping tips there's the college draft podcast that keeps track of the prospects as they're working their way through
60:57the college football season and into the draft area you're a busy man I appreciate you taking the time every year to
61:05come on the show and really appreciate your insight it is my pleasure Chris thank you so much for having me I'm
61:13honored that you have me on every year I'm humbled always by your kind words about me as a broadcaster fired up
61:21for this year and very thankful that you came on the Ross Tucker football podcast today because I don't have a fantasy
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62:24this episode here on a Tuesday coming up on Wednesday for those in the yacht club Andy Barron's on his new slash
62:32old day Wednesday mornings we'll have Andy on we're going to talk about some players who might lose their jobs and then
62:40we'll all meet back here on Thursday on the main show my guest will be JJ Zacharisen we're going to do some
62:48film room heroes just players we like watching film on and maybe that'll translate to fantasy but doesn't have to just guys
62:56we like basically we're going to talk about that with JJ that's going to be a blast if you'd like to get
63:04bribed if you'd like to get entered to be bribed on Friday you can go get a copy of the book a
63:11link is in the show notes you can also get an almanac you can also just take it easy and that's all
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