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0:53Welcome in. Welcome in. Welcome in. It's the The Late-Round Fantasy Football Podcast, sponsored by DraftKings.
0:58David Kitchen here alongside JJ Zacharyarysen. And JJ, you were on vacation last week, but it's...
1:03I don't know. It's like the stats were piling up against you, basically.
1:07This is the first, like, normal day that I've had since being back.
1:11We got back on Saturday, and this is Wednesday that we're recording this.
1:15I not only got sick on Thursday, so Thursday, Friday, kind of under the weather, just kind of pushed through with some Tylenol, you know, and whatever.
1:23And that's why I'm a little congested now. I'm kind of on the tail end of it.
1:28But got sick. We got home. If you listen to Becoming a Best Ball Bro, you heard this.
1:34Our upstairs AC was completely broken, which is where my office is and all my equipment and et cetera, et cetera.
1:40And it's not very easy to move this stuff when you got kids running around and stuff like that.
1:46So that episode that you guys listened to on Tuesday, I was quite literally dripping sweat by the end of it.
1:53I mean, like, had to immediately put the shirt in the gym hamper, you know, after I was done with it.
1:59I mean, and I was getting nervous because that's where your guest bedroom was located.
2:04And that's right. I'll be flying to, you know, to the Camp JJ, and then we're going to be road tripping to the Fantasy Football Expo this weekend.
2:12Yes. If anyone's there, say hello. Hopefully Harold Fanden's mom is there this year.
2:17I don't think I thought about this. Remember, because I was thinking also we had our deal with the NFL.
2:23Well, we were in talks with the NFL and iHeart Media back then about the deal.
2:28And like part of it was the scroller. And we were watching the Hall of Fame games.
2:33We're like, how cool would this be if we saw it?
2:36Will we get it this year? Will that be happening?
2:39It could be. Yeah. But the thing is, the Expo is earlier.
2:43Right. Right. So there's not going to be like sitting there on TV while we're...
2:48Right. Harold Fanden's mom was actually watching. That's a good point.
2:51Her son play. Yeah. It's two weeks. The problem with like...
2:54So the Expo is earlier this year. It's usually the week after the Hall of Fame game.
3:00This year, it's the week before. You can't do it the week of the Hall of Fame game because it's in Canton
3:06and it's at the Hall of Fame. So you can't do it that weekend.
3:11So it's technically like two weeks earlier than when it typically is.
3:14So it's going to be a little bit different.
3:17But I'm excited because I know there's going to be a different set of people that are there that aren't typically able to get there.
3:25So I'm excited for the trip. Honestly, after the way, I think I'm just excited to hopefully settle in and not, you
3:31know, have the chaos that's been going on. Not only that, this morning kitchen, this morning, I'm getting the kids ready to go to their camp and daycare.
3:40And all of a sudden, I realized I can't find CJ anywhere, my three and a half year old son.
3:46Okay. I can't find them anywhere. I don't know what's going on.
3:50And so I start like panicking because he's only three and a half and he's kind of crazy.
3:55And so I start screaming from like the top of my lungs for him to emerge wherever he's at.
4:01Silence. There's just nothing. And then all of a sudden, I realized after five minutes of panic, we realized that he was
4:08in he was hiding in my wife's my wife's closet.
4:11Like we have the split closet situation. He was hiding in the closet in.
4:15I remember doing this as a kid to like going into my parents closet and like hiding and like being like, you
4:22know, behind the clothing that's hanging and stuff like that.
4:25And he was he thought we were playing like hide and seek and he didn't tell anyone.
4:30And despite the fact that I was yelling for him, he wasn't coming out.
4:35And so we had to have a little talk about how when we play hide and seek, got to let everyone know that we're playing hide and seek.
4:43Yeah. Yeah, that's scary. Like those when you think you're your kid, like, where's my kid?
4:48Right. Right. I remember some of those. And now, you know, now it's just like, all right, they're around here somewhere.
4:55I got someone in chat saying, does the J and CJ stand for the same thing as the second J and JJ?
5:01It does not. We actually didn't name CJ because we adopted CJ when he was six weeks old.
5:07We we were the ones who started calling him CJ, but his birth mother also was like had that idea as well.
5:14So we didn't name him. That's the that's the short of it.
5:17I used to always say that if I ever had a child that I would never give them initial name, an initial
5:24name because it was so annoying going to school and having to correct your teacher every every year.
5:30And everyone's like, oh, your name's blah, blah, blah.
5:32You know, I'm not going to say it because some people just call me that you guys can find it easily.
5:39But I didn't want to do that to my own kid.
5:42And I ended up doing that with with my child.
5:45As long as they don't put on your FM Expo tag this year.
5:49That's true. It was on my my my lanyard last year.
5:53Yeah. All right. We have some things to get to as far as news and notes.
5:57But before that, go to layround.com and either sign up to be a member or purchase the draft guy draft guy is out.
6:05It's already had two updates. Update number three will be happening on Friday.
6:09So excited about that. Every Friday, you're going to get an update from us.
6:13The season starts through the end of August. And I'll access member and have that included in your membership.
6:19Yes. I already know. I haven't written all the blurbs yet for what I'm updating the players to target avoid in dark throws.
6:26But I know who I will be adding this week.
6:29And I think it's exciting. So it's a I don't know this time of year.
6:33I think that definitely is exciting. One of the guys exciting.
6:37Yeah, he he's going to be he's on this show somewhere.
6:40Oh, I'll just we won't tell you where but he is on this show somewhere.
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6:53If you want the draft one get one. They had another best ball week last week.
6:58But this week, they're also doing a deal where you get cash back for the number of entries that you draft in the best ball millie contest.
7:07And JJ, you and I have been comparing exposures and also draft slots.
7:11I'm 92 drafts in you are I think 82 or 83.
7:14Now I think I'm like 86. I did another one.
7:17I've been doing the the zone to Peloton rides while drafting and then one at night typically.
7:22Did you see in the best ball chat that I got number one overall pick last night and a member tagged me.
7:29He's like, I didn't get the number one overall pick, but kitchen did.
7:33And also Levitan was in the draft as well.
7:36So I was. Yeah, I mean, guys, I'm telling you what I'm almost I think I'm almost 90 drafts in and I've
7:42gotten the 101 three times and I've gotten the one oh the 110.
7:46Yeah, what was it 15 times? I think it's been at this point.
7:50I've gotten so much five to seven also. So I have so much JSN too.
7:55So I'm trying to I don't want to I don't want to go crazy and start taking Amon Ra over JSN in that spot yet.
8:03But I will have to do that if it just keeps happening.
8:06I only have three number three slots. So like Jamar Chase, who's the guy that always goes there.
8:12Yeah, but not have it. But like he'll fall to four.
8:15Like I think I mean, I have Puka ahead of Chase straight up in my rankings.
8:20So like like realistically, that's a spot where I would be totally.
8:24You can't not have the 101 like Jameer Gibbs could go nuclear this year.
8:28And and only having three out of 90 drafts is incredibly tilting.
8:32All right, JJ, I did see in the chat we had.
8:35What up, JJ and David? Love the show. Only show I can't listen to on 2X.
8:40Love the work. Danani Zane. My man, my man is crushing it with with the news items and such.
8:46And we appreciate him. And speaking of, let's get into it.
8:49It's today's news. Today's fantasy news. All right. First on the list.
8:53If you are a Montgomery truther, this might scare you a little bit.
8:57Is he going to be splitting reps this year, JJ?
9:00The problem with this report, this is a very classic like beat reporter.
9:04I can't take it very seriously report because number one, we don't know yet.
9:08And number two, literally a month ago, less than a month ago, I think there was a completely like separate report that
9:15was saying that David Montgomery was going to be the bell cow and he was going to take work through the air as well.
9:22Like that was what people thought would be more of the Woody Marks role.
9:27I don't think that we know. Uh, I've said it before on this show that, you know, my rankings, I need to,
9:34I need to really hone in on that area of my rankings because it's kind of difficult to get what I, cause
9:40for me, rankings are like me trying to describe how I feel about certain players to people who are consuming those rankings.
9:47Right. And I'm trying to, it's a really hard area of the draft to do that.
9:52Um, and so with David Montgomery though, I've said it before on this show.
9:56I think that like, if you want to, if you want to talk about a generally sort of the archetype of a
10:03dead zone running back, I do think that David Montgomery checks a lot of those boxes where he's not young.
10:09Uh, you know, he, he goes in that range where he's being boosted by projection a bit.
10:14It's not like it's this like glorious situation and he's not ever been like an amazing, amazing pass catcher.
10:20I think that he's fine as a pass catcher.
10:23Like, could he easily get a lot of work and be fine?
10:27Yeah. I, that's why I'm not like fading Montgomery completely, but I'm underweight on Montgomery because I just think there's more tantalizing
10:33upside with some other players that are going around him.
10:36Uh, that I would rather take a chance on, especially in certain builds.
10:40Like if I have two running backs already and I'm looking at a third running back, I don't want David Montgomery.
10:47I want Bayshall to, you know, in, in that kind of, kind of environment and situation.
10:52So, uh, I, I would, I would pump the brakes a little bit on this particular report as I would on the
10:59other report about David Montgomery being just the full blown bell cow in this backfield and seeing, you know, the, the 80%
11:05backfield share that we want these backs to, you know, that's very rare for these backs to hit.
11:11Uh, with that being said, I don't think Woody marks is that special either, but like, let's just keep in mind, like
11:18things changed offensively for, for this Texans team. Uh, you know, the offensive line should be better, but man, I'll tell you
11:24what, like CJ Stroud has been rough the last couple of years and basically since his rookie season and the offensive line
11:31has not been good and the run game has not been overly efficient.
11:35And so like, I don't, I don't really want to be overweight on a situation like that.
11:40Just assuming that it can just get so, so good.
11:43Um, you know, in an instant, uh, one, one off season like that.
11:47So like I said, uh, I think that he is a classic dead zone back from an archetype standpoint, but it's not
11:54as obvious as like when Alexander Madison was in there or like Zamir white or those kinds of players were like, there's
12:01not even a backbone of those guys being relevant in fantasy football.
12:04Okay. Uh, guy that's been in the news this week, Peter Schrager, his, uh, you know, he didn't, he never played, but,
12:11uh, Oh man, by the way, I, I saw the, uh, the clip and I forgot that it existed.
12:17The clip of D'Angelo Williams. Yeah. With Kyle Brandt and Schrags.
12:20Like this is like years ago. Right. And it's, it's D'Angelo Williams was tearing them apart for having not played, even though
12:27Brandt did play in college and he went to Princeton and, and you know, whatever.
12:32It's just embarrassing. Like that, that whole discussion from players is just so beyond embarrassing.
12:36When you turn on the TV and you see LaShawn McCoy and look, I went to pit.
12:42I like shady. Okay. But my God, the takes are ridiculous.
12:45They're, they're obscene. And I have no problem saying that because I can point to all of them and say, they're just, they're just crazy.
12:53You don't need to play the game to understand the game and vice versa.
12:57Are there people out there that have not played the game that are really bad at analyzing it?
13:02Yes. Uh, are there players though that played the game and are terrible at analyzing it?
13:07Yes. So, you know, just take a case by case.
13:10And I think Schrags in particular is very, very good at his job.
13:14So I want to shout him out after you, uh, you know, preface with that.
13:19Yeah. And he had Liam Cohen, Jags head coach on the show, and it was a fun show.
13:25You know, we've talked about the Jags offense. He talked about Parker Washington and all roads, Bayshall Tootin.
13:30So if, uh, if you've been drafting those guys, you're high on those guys, or you hold them in, in your dynasty leagues, you're feeling good right now.
13:39Yeah. Look, the thing with Parker Washington, which by the way, both those guys are from the start of the draft guide
13:45release, they've been, they've been dubbed as targets in the guy.
13:49Now you might be saying like, wow, JJ's high on Parker Washington.
13:52Not really. I just think that the, the platforms, the big fantasy platforms out there, non-best ball platforms are unbelievably low on Parker Washington.
14:00There's a very, very big gap outside of best ball between a Brian Thomas and Parker Washington.
14:05When I think that that gap is, is not necessary, you know, because there's a very real chance that Washington's a PPR scam as he was.
14:13And he, I mean, he was really good too.
14:16I just mean that he could see a lot of volume in that offense, the way that they deployed him.
14:22But yeah, I mean, like Liam Cohen's words about Parker Washington were really bullish.
14:26And then the way that he talked about Bayshall Tootin, which I just go back to what I said from the start
14:33about this backfield where I look, I, I think that, and this is the take that kind of like wrecks people's brains.
14:40Cause I've had a lot of people hit me about this, but Chris Rodriguez to me is a better pick in best
14:47ball than he is in managed season long, because you're, you're going to more than likely get some production from Rodriguez this year.
14:54I just am fearful that it's not very predictive and predictable because it'll maybe be a one-off touchdown, which I don't think
15:00that he's a lock to see all of the goal line work given Bayshall Tootin played that role in a pretty significant way last year.
15:08And then Bayshall Tootin also had a really good success rate last year versus Travis Etienne.
15:13So you know, you have, you have Chris Rodriguez, who I think will score, we'll get some production and we'll get some early down work.
15:21I don't want to deal with that week to week and season long that much, you know, uh, he's fallen in drafts
15:27where I've actually taken them quite a bit just because of the, the injury stuff and the scare there.
15:33But, uh, yeah, I mean, to me, it's, it's what I said at the start.
15:38I think, I think, uh, you know, drafting Chris Rodriguez or preferring him over Bayshall Tootin is a, is a five condom
15:45way of, of looking at this where it's, it's just a very like safe, low upside type bet.
15:50Whereas it's very clear. The upside is with Bayshall Tootin.
15:53Now, could you argue that four or five, six years ago, Bayshall Tootin's ADP would be more seventies or eighties or nineties even.
16:00Yeah. You could argue that the, the market's gotten sharper, but I don't think that where Tootin gets drafted, which by the
16:07way, if you look at Yahoo or ESPN, he gets drafted after well, after RB two range, like he's in, he's in
16:14like RB 26 to RB 28 land. And I think he's closer to like RB 20.
16:19So I I'm, I'm more than willing to throw that dart because I know the hit rates are just not very strong anyway.
16:26And that fifth, sixth round range. Yeah. As far as backup running backs, the guys who we've been looking at, uh, these
16:32next two notes, Mike Gibbs, people, some anxiety, Isaiah Davis, possibly the new running back to a report in the athletic by
16:39Zach Rosenblatt, um, was basically comparing the running back to situation and said that right now the, the favorite is Isaiah Davis over Braylon Allen.
16:47Yes. And by the way, I bent over, I'm going to be blowing my nose throughout this.
16:52So don't think that anything weird. Yeah. Not Robbie Williams.
16:55Yeah. Yeah. Nothing. Nothing. Robbie Williams ask. Yeah. I saw it.
16:58I knew exactly what happened, but I didn't want to alert people and, and you know, it's a podcast listener.
17:05No, I got congestion. You know, we all get it.
17:08Uh, yeah. So the Isaiah Davis, Braylon Allen thing's interesting because I think that Isaiah Davis is better than Braylon Allen.
17:14Like I, I think he's a better player than Allen is and he has a more of a receiving skillset.
17:20And I have not understood really why Allen goes where he goes in, in a lot of these drafts when you're talking
17:27like more than likely a handcuff, right? Like not going to have a ton of standalone, uh, production, uh, from him.
17:33And then on top of that, uh, you're in a bad offense.
17:37You're on a good offensive situation. The offensive line shouldn't be that bad for the jets, but yeah, Isaiah Davis, if there,
17:44if he's there, are we too, wouldn't, wouldn't shock me at all right now.
17:48He's, he's not even getting drafted in most of these drafts.
17:52Okay. What about, uh, Simone Vocky possibly eating into Isaiah Pacheco's touches.
17:55Pacheco has been a popular guy, especially in the best bowl world, you know, where he came from Kansas city.
18:01So, uh, if Vocky eats into his touches that, you know, that's going to eat into some of his value.
18:07This is going to be a weird video. So, uh, the, the audio is fine.
18:12Just, just, just listen to the audio this week.
18:15Uh, but yeah, no, I, I said this about Pacheco before where the one thing that we have to always keep in
18:22mind when we're drafting these backups, especially, you know, this is definitely more best ball focused than it is season long.
18:28Cause you can just drop the guy, but you have to still worry about the talent profile of the backup because there's fragility involved there, right?
18:36Like if Arizona cuts James Connor or Trey Benson, you don't think that their old offensive coordinator might be like, Hey, I want them.
18:43I want them on our team and we need some running back depth.
18:47Then all of a sudden Isaiah Pacheco is dust because he's not that talented himself at this point.
18:53And it's coming from a truther. I used to, I mean, I loved Isaiah Pacheco.
18:58He won me lots of money. Uh, and so I, I, I think that we have to still recognize the talent profile
19:04of, of who that backup is and what that backup is.
19:08You know, it's similar to like tank Bigsby in a way where I get the allure with Bigsby because he was very good per rush last year.
19:16He's a, he's, he's been good on the ground, right?
19:19But he's never been a true bell cow, like through the air.
19:23And he's not been good as a pass catcher in the NFL, right?
19:27Like per route run, horrific metrics. And so Saquon goes down.
19:30Yeah. Tank Bigsby gets a huge boost, but how much receiving work is Bigsby going to get?
19:35You have to look at the individual and I'm not saying he's a good or bad pick.
19:40I'm just saying, make sure you're evaluating what that backup is and what he is as a player, as opposed to saying he is the backup.
19:48And if this guy gets hurt, then I know for sure, this is the way this is going to go.
19:55If B. John Robinson gets hurt, Brian Robinson will take on a lot of work, but we know Brian Robinson has not
20:01been a stellar pass catcher either, you know? And so there's, there's limitations there.
20:06The best handcuffs that you can find are the ones that you do feel good about their pass catching role.
20:12And we know that the early down work is a little bit more replaceable.
20:16And I don't see any reason why Isaiah Davis can't be looked at as a better or like, like comparable runner to,
20:23you know, Braylon Allen or Isaiah Pacheco and, and, and Baki, like having a comparable, uh, rushing profile, all things considered.
20:29So like, there's just a lot of fragility to what's going on in that backup role, which is why I haven't quite
20:36been able to buy into where Pacheco is going in drafts.
20:39Okay. Uh, staying on the lions, Schefter and other people reported yesterday, good news.
20:44For Sam Laporta, he has been fully cleared for training camp after successful micro disc, micro disc ectomy.
20:49Yeah. There you go. You killed that. You say it.
20:52Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yeah. So, so I'm, uh, I'm not really attached to anyone in this, in this offense from a, from a passing standpoint.
21:00Um, I, I would imagine that we see, uh, to, uh, start the season.
21:04He's the one that has been attached to this regime, if you will.
21:08Uh, and, and I don't think my, I like, what has Michael Penix shown us so far in the NFL?
21:14That's like, I don't know. Is he good? Penix?
21:17Yeah. Yeah. Um, I mean, he had that one good game.
21:21Like I I've just, I don't know. I, I, I, I just am not sold that.
21:25Like, this is, this is it for him. Yeah.
21:28Um, Tua has been going like later on in drafts, in basketball drafts.
21:32I think Tua is a, like a, a fine pick.
21:35Interesting click. Yeah. My, my only thing is that like, I do think that like, they might want to see what they
21:42have after they're out of playoff contention, you know, with, with Penix and make sure and check that box.
21:48But, um, yeah, man, I mean, like I've, I've not been inspired by Michael Penix since he's done what he's done.
21:54He's also shown that he's not been able to stay healthy.
21:58Um, so my, my stance is that like, I think, I mean, look, I think Tua is, is potentially very, very good for Bijan Robinson too.
22:06Um, so there, there's, there's that going for him.
22:08And we know that the, the target consolidation is pretty strong in Atlanta.
22:12And we saw that in Miami, uh, with, with Tua that he, that he wasn't afraid to just give it to his guys.
22:19And it's a very similar situation where like you have like two or three good targets and the rest of the team is really iffy.
22:27Um, and so I, I, I don't think that it would be shocking to see Drake London hit like a 28% target share, 30% target share this year.
22:36Kyle Pitts could be decent. Uh, and then, and then Bijan just getting a lot of those dump offs that, that we've
22:42seen, you know, I don't want to attribute all of it with H and to Tua, but one of the crazy things
22:49with H and right now, uh, is the way that people are talking about like how there's no one else there in that offense.
22:57And so it's not that big of a deal that, um, you know, that, that everything's changed.
23:02There's a new quarterback, like who else are they going to throw to?
23:06He can still maintain that 20% target share. I would agree, but without Tua, we saw H and be completely useless in fantasy football.
23:13Like we've, we've literally seen the floor. The floor is not what happened last year.
23:18You guys, the, the, the, the dolphins offense last year was not good, but that's not the floor for a guy like
23:24H and because Tua was still elevating him just from a, a pure, um, you know, how we, how we score fantasy football perspective.
23:32Right. Um, and I feel that that way with Tua in Atlanta, where I do think that he can at least give
23:39these guys a floor and be a distributor. Do I think he's going to all of a sudden be a pro bowler?
23:45Well, shouldn't say pro bowler. Cause that doesn't really matter anymore.
23:49Uh, I mean, Shador Sanders is a pro bowler, uh, but no, like, I don't think he's going to be like, have like a special season or anything.
23:57Okay. Uh, Adam Schefter came out with his, as podcast yesterday, talk about training camp notes.
24:02And one of those was that Jalen Waddle's playing the Joker and Denver.
24:06And if you remember last year, people were all about Evan Ingram because the word Joker was attached to him.
24:12So Joker means value basically in the Denver offense.
24:15Yeah. I mean like Sean Payton has always had this Joker role where he lines, it's usually not a wide receiver.
24:22It's usually a tight end or a running back where he lines these guys all over the field and, uh, likes to deploy them in interesting ways.
24:30Like Darren Sproles was, was sort of that role at one point.
24:34Jimmy Graham was that role at one point. And like, it's probably not, uh, something that we need to be that concerned
24:40about, um, and worry about the labeling of it.
24:43But I do think that this is just another instance of like, I don't understand why Cortland Sutton gets drafted where he gets drafted.
24:50And I don't understand where, why Jalen Waddle gets drafted where he gets drafted.
24:55And I'm not talking about best ball. I'm talking about season long leagues right now.
24:59If you look at, uh, Yahoo and ESPN, we're talking wide receiver 22 and wide receiver 24 for Jalen Waddle.
25:05Uh, according to, to ADP, uh, I have my wide receiver 17.
25:09So that's a pretty big difference. And then ESPN and Yahoo have Cortland Sutton at a wide receiver 33 and wide receiver 37.
25:16I have said no wider receiver 44. I will never ever understand why people love Cortland Sutton so much in fantasy football.
25:23It makes absolutely zero sense to me. He's quite literally not been a wide.
25:27He's never had a wide receiver one season. He said one wide receiver two season in PPR points per game, if I recall correctly.
25:35And his yards per route run has not been over the two mark and like seven years, like an insane amount of time.
25:42And so I don't really understand why adding Jalen Waddle to the mix is going to, to, to sustain Cortland Sutton's fantasy production.
25:49When there were times last year where in this role, cause I think Waddle is going to play the Z a lot in this role.
25:56We saw, we saw Troy Franklin play this and there were times last year where Franklin was outproducing Cortland Sutton.
26:03There was like a stretch of three or four games where he was a better fantasy asset than Cortland Sutton was.
26:09And so I'm, I'm all, I think Jalen Waddle is a smash at his ADP and I do not understand, you know,
26:16in a season long environment, why court, why you would be drafting Cortland Sutton as a wide receiver three.
26:22I just can't get behind it. Okay. Cameron Wolf has Teddero McMillan in front of the show playing more slot this season in Carolina.
26:29We talked to T-Mac about this at the Superbowl.
26:32Uh, I brought it up, uh, about him playing more in the slot and he said that he was, he would be
26:38excited to do that because he referenced, which was a great reference, the Atlanta game.
26:43Um, and, uh, that in that game last year, he, he played a little bit more in the slot and he was really productive out of the slot.
26:52The only problem with this is that Jalen Coker is good there too.
26:56And I worry about what that would do to his fantasy value.
26:59I'm not trying to like make this too big of a deal, but I do think that it would, it would ease
27:06some concerns for me with T-Mac because my fear with T-Mac is not that he's not going to get a decent amount of volume and be good.
27:14Cause I think he's a stud. Uh, my fear would be the conversion of some of the looks that he gets and
27:21he'll have an easier time converting if he does get more slot work.
27:25So I think it's a good thing for him for sure.
27:28Uh, that, that he would be playing more out of that area.
27:32It also just shows more offensive, you know, innovation and being able to get your good guy or get your best players in good spots and such.
27:40Uh, but it would be a little bit of a, of a damper for, uh, for Jalen Coker there, because I do
27:47think that he's a, he's a pretty good slot player himself.
27:51Okay. Last one on the list, because we've, we've seen his name floating around.
27:55I'm still kind of a shocked. He still hasn't signed.
27:58And that is Stefan digs. Where's he going? You think, uh, you think he's going to be a new, the new commander
28:05since Iuke has kind of played himself out of that role.
28:08I think that it makes most sense. The most sense for him to go to commanders.
28:13I think he meshes well with, with Terry McLaurin.
28:16I mean, McLaurin can obviously stretch the field really well.
28:19I think digs is kind of past that point in his career.
28:22Um, so I'm still, I'm still banking on that where I don't want him to go is Baltimore.
28:28I don't want to see that happen. Uh, just because there's not going to be as much volume and you know, I
28:35want Zay flowers to, to be able to maintain a really high target share, but, uh, Washington, Kansas city is one to, to keep an eye on.
28:43I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up going there might be a little bit of a redundant asset to what they already have to a degree.
28:51Um, but yeah, I think Washington is probably the favorite right now.
28:55All right, let's get into today's data where we have some market score comp projections for running back and receiver today's data.
29:02All right, JJ, tell us what we're looking at here.
29:05Yeah. So I did that episode yesterday, um, on the, the comp score stuff and, and the looking at, um, these players
29:12in market score and how they performed based on what their comps were saying.
29:16Right. Uh, and so I got a lot of feedback that it was really cool and fun.
29:21And hopefully you guys didn't take it like too seriously because it's not how market score is being used slash.
29:27It's not how my projections and how my, you know, it's not like the sole thing that I'm looking at when I'm
29:34trying to, to see if I like a player or not, but it is going to be part of my evaluation process.
29:41And so, uh, right here, I have the top 24 running backs and wide receivers, uh, listed for you by their market score comp projections.
29:48So just to run through this and what this means, B John Robinson, I look at his ADP, his market score in his career year.
29:56And I find the 10 most similar players since 2014 who fit those three criteria best for B John Robinson.
30:02And then from there I can multiply the similarity by that point per game projection, uh, or point per game output that
30:09that player, that comp had, and it can, it can produce this projection that's based, that's weighted by the similar scores.
30:15So if a player like had a guy who was 95 and similarity score, and then the next guy was 75, that 95 is getting more weight.
30:24That is basically what that means. So B John Robinson comes in as the RB one, you know, I called out some
30:30of the crazy ones on the show on Tuesday, which was the whole point of that show, but you can see where this is.
30:38I mentioned the drop-off from, from chase Brown to RJ Harvey, 14 to 15.
30:42Uh, and you can see that drop-off it's a, it's 1.3 points per game, which is pretty significant compared to what you were seeing before that.
30:50These are not, these are not actual projections. It's just a way of looking at market score and kind of a unique and different way.
30:58Um, and see where, you know, there's, there's a little bit more fear or some, some, uh, you know, downside risk for
31:04some players like running back, you have David Montgomery, who we talked about.
31:08You have the new England backfield at wide receiver, Devante Smith.
31:12It doesn't like very much the comps. Now the actual market score doesn't mind him, but the comps don't, uh, don't love them.
31:19Christian Watson, DJ Moore. Uh, but you can see where these guys rank.
31:23It's just an interesting way of, of looking at market score.
31:26Um, you know, in a, in a different way, um, that, that I don't think is really out there, uh, that much.
31:33I think like looking at comps and seeing what goes on in history is always just fun content.
31:39Yeah. The, uh, some of those guys, if, if you have, if you're high on them and you see them on this
31:45list, you're like, uh, and they're, why are they so far down?
31:49Right. Like AJ Brown, wide receiver. I love AJ around this year.
31:53Wide receiver 18. Yeah. I'm not ranking my wide receiver 18.
31:56It's just that I'm on raw at wide receiver 16.
31:59Yeah. There's yeah. I mean like, that's crazy, babe.
32:02That's not only, not only that it's crazy because like, don't think that market score doesn't like these players if their projection is low.
32:09Uh, it's just saying that historically there haven't been good top 10 comps.
32:13There might be good 11 to 15 comps. You know, I've, I've no clue.
32:17I learned the top 10, but it's just, it's just interesting thought, you know, like, like, like content to chew on and to think about.
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33:31All right, let's get into the main event. The late round main event.
33:35All right, the topic is training camp sleepers for the main event, JJ.
33:38And you're going to tell us what we're looking for.
33:42So here's what I'm doing. I'm thinking about players who we might see a lot of love for in the media and
33:48from beat reporters and stuff as training camp gets going.
33:51And I was thinking about like what criteria should I be looking at here?
33:56And the three criteria that I thought of was there's an opening to showcase their talent.
34:01So, you know, maybe the wide receiver two is injured or there's just no wide receiver two and there's going to be a battle for it.
34:09So there's some some opening in the depth chart for these players to do something.
34:13There's ambiguity surrounding the player himself and the talent of that player.
34:17And then typically you'll see more athletic players get a little bit more love in camp because they're just athletic and spectacles to watch.
34:24Right. So those are the three things. It's openness or an opening to showcase their talent.
34:29There's ambiguity surrounding that individual player's talent. And then there's athleticism.
34:33That's that's typically that that plus for for these players.
34:36So with that being said, I'm going to just go with the low hanging fruit one first.
34:41This one's fairly obvious, but Jonathan Brooks and I don't have like this is very much more vibes based than anything else.
34:48You know, this is more of a I mean, I don't know how it wouldn't be vibes based when when this is the topic.
34:55But I'll give you guys my take on these players as I talk about them.
35:00So like the notes in here are like super, super detailed.
35:03But Jonathan Brooks, if he steps into camp and he looks completely healthy, I don't see how his ADP doesn't continue to go up.
35:10I mean, it went up a little bit, but like you're still getting him on DraftKings, for instance, at like the the
35:17910 turn pretty frequently or into the 10th round sometimes.
35:20Where I think that you can get him a lot earlier than that.
35:24You know, I look at my my rankings. I have him at RB 32 right now, which is way higher than where
35:31you'll get him on ESPN and Yahoo, where over on Yahoo, he is RB 39 ESPN.
35:36He's also RB 39. So I think that like, again, the way that I like look at these players in rankings and
35:42in fantasy drafts is like if you're in round eight to 10, you should not be worried about the floor outcome.
35:49And the ceiling outcome is pretty crazy for Jonathan Brooks.
35:52When you consider last year, their backup Carolina's backup took over Chuba Hubbard as starter.
35:57Like he took that job. Like we've seen this happen before in the same offense with the same coach.
36:02So don't think that it can't happen again. Now, the difference this year is that Chuba Hubbard is going later than he was last year.
36:10Last year, he was a fade this year. It's not so obvious because he's not going as early.
36:16But I do think that Brooks and Chuba on those main sites should be closer together.
36:21It's not going to shock me in a best ball environment where you get a lot of slappies and you get a
36:27lot of people who are wanting to be the smartest person in the room.
36:32It wouldn't shock me if by mid-August, Jonathan Brooks is being drafted ahead of Chuba Hubbard.
36:36I don't think it would shock me. Just based on steam.
36:40Yeah, some highlights and we'll get there this summer.
36:43Another guy who's crazy, explosive, athletic, and who's been steamed up a little bit.
36:47We have some positive training reports. Is Rashid Shaheed.
36:50Yeah, I'm like four or five wide receiver spots ahead of the market with Shaheed this year.
36:55He joined Seattle last year. He only had a two-thirds route share, 67% route share.
36:59Once he joined Seattle, I think he'll end up being more of a full-time player.
37:04He's had a career 1.75 yards per hour run rate.
37:07Some seasons over the two mark. His rookie season was incredible in terms of the big playability.
37:12He was able to take away volume from Chris Alave last year, which is not nothing.
37:17Because obviously Alave, like right when Shaheed left is when Alave rocket shipped, you know, to fantasy football greatness in that offense.
37:24And so a lot of people will credit that to Tyler Shuck, but I think it's just as much Rashid Shaheed and
37:31the lack of competition for him to be able to get as big of a target share as he did down the stretch.
37:38I also have the take that I think Seattle is going to be forced to throw the ball a little bit more
37:45this year because the defense more than likely won't be as efficient as it was last year.
37:50Because it's going to be very difficult for it to be as efficient as it was last year.
37:55So that to me is going to combat the JSN regression a little bit.
38:00And it can help a guy like Rashid Shaheed.
38:02You know, if he carves out like a 18 to 20% target share in the offense, which is very doable.
38:09If he is running more routes and more close to that, like 85 to 90% route sharing range.
38:14All of a sudden you're talking, you know, a couple of big plays.
38:18He could be a low end wide receiver three in fantasy, like pretty easily.
38:22So I think he's a good pick right now.
38:25And I would not be shocked if we get more and more positive reports about Shaheed, his speed, how he opens up the offense.
38:32I was going to play more and that's going to just increase his ADP.
38:37Yeah. Next guy, you've come around on a little bit.
38:40Zachariah Branch with the Falcons. Yeah. I look, it was weird because I thought I was going to be so much lower
38:47than the market on Branch and rookie drafts. And then I was basically at the market with with Branch in terms of how I ranked him.
38:55Um, but look from a prospecting profile standpoint, the TLDR is that Zachariah Branch is really, uh, uh, athletic and twitchy, but he's gadgety.
39:02You know, a lot of his college production came behind the line of scrimmage.
39:06It was kind of manufactured. He doesn't have the full route tree, uh, you know, under his belt.
39:12And then he doesn't have that ability to run that just yet.
39:15But again, you think about the type of the archetype of player that he is speedy twitchy.
39:21That is the training camp. Uh, you know, like the training camp archetype that, you know, is going to end up just,
39:27just being boosted by beat reporters and such. So, and there's no locked in wide receiver to in Atlanta right now.
39:34So I, I think that he's going to rise in ADP over the next three weeks.
39:39Okay. Next we have cover boy T for Terrence Ferguson with the Rams.
39:43Yeah. I mean, look, I love Terrence Ferguson. Love them as a prospect last year.
39:47There's no wide receiver three on this team, on this, on this Rams team.
39:52There's no one that's like reliable as like a slot player.
39:55And last year he played by far the most in the slot of all of the Rams tight ends.
40:01He had a 50% slot rate. Uh, that was double every other Rams tight end.
40:05He's an athletic freak. He's a year two guy.
40:08They run a lot of heavy personnel. You know, you're going to see a lot of two, three tight end sets.
40:15I think that we're going to see articles and we've kind of seen them, but not a ton where we're going to,
40:21we're going to hear them say Terrence Ferguson is the de facto wide receiver three in the Rams offense.
40:27And that alone is going to boost him over, you know, the more stable guys like a Jawan Johnson or something like that.
40:34From an ADP standpoint, uh, into maybe that like tight end 16 to 18 range, as opposed to, you know, more in the, the, the, the low twenties.
40:43Yeah. This is why if like, cause some people were talking about the Rams getting one of these vets receivers as their wide receiver three.
40:51Yeah. Like that's another one. Like digs, digs could end up going there and it would, it would probably be not great for best ball bags.
40:59It would be fine. More neutral, but we're, we're hoping if you've been drafting Stefan digs, you're hoping that he, he goes
41:05somewhere like Washington and ends up as like a ninth round pick as opposed to a 12th round one.
41:11Yeah. Regardless of where he goes, he's going to be steamed up a little bit.
41:16Uh, this guy we talked about internally and the, uh, I was talking with Brandon Cadula about, I need to get more exposure to tank Dell.
41:24It feels like, because if that highlight flip of him last week or this week, he's cutting and everything else.
41:30I mean, he's, he's like a 17th, 18th round pick right now.
41:34Yeah. I think he's fine to throw a dart out.
41:37I like Jalen Noel too. I liked him as a prospect as well.
41:41Um, and I'm actually ahead of the market on, on Jaden Higgins a little bit, uh, just because I think he's, he's like a really solid player.
41:49Like he's a, he's a, like, I'm not taking Shahid over or I'm not taking him over Shahid, but I do think
41:56that, that Higgins is a good player himself. But the tank Dell stuff, if he looks like his old self, his ADP is going to go up.
42:04The one thing that I want to say about tank Dell is there is this narrative out there that CJ Stroud has
42:11only been bad because tank Dell hasn't been healthy.
42:13And if you look at his rookie year, yeah, sure.
42:16Like it helped because he had a good rookie season.
42:20If you look at his second year, CJ Stroud, he was just bad in general.
42:24Uh, he, he averaged 13.2 standard points per game with tank Dell in 2024.
42:28And then the three games without him is a couple of points below that.
42:33He was just bad in general. He's just been bad the last two years.
42:37CJ Stroud has nothing to do with tank Dell.
42:40It has to do with the fact that he's not been a good quarterback and that offensive line is sucked.
42:46And the, the coordinators haven't necessarily meshed well. So I, uh, I, I don't want to overstate what tank Dell does for
42:53CJ Stroud, but I do think that there's a very real chance.
42:56We see him get steamed up, uh, here in late, late July and into August.
43:01Some talented receivers, obviously they're in Houston. I'm just beginning to think maybe CJ Stroud has a comeback here this year.
43:07We'll see. I've drafted, I mean, I've drafted him in basketball.
43:11I have not drafted as much of him because he's in that same tier as Mr.
43:16Cam Ward. Uh, yeah, of course. Yeah. There you go.
43:19You gotta, you gotta, you gotta ignore one bad quarterback for another bad quarterback.
43:23Stop. I will not take any CJ Ward slander, especially after quarterback.
43:27Um, all right. Malachi fields, this giants offense, speaking of wide receiver rooms, we have no clue really what to expect.
43:33Yeah. And you have Malachi fields on the list.
43:36I don't think fields is that good of a prospect.
43:39Uh, I think his separation issues, he had, he had really mediocre age adjusted collegiate production.
43:44He played five years in college. Uh, and it just never really like his production profile is just never studly.
43:50And so I don't think he's going to be studly in the NFL.
43:54With that being said, there is an opening and he's not a speed freak, but he's a size freak.
44:00And so I think there's a very real chance we get some videos of him mossing defenders and all of a sudden
44:07we get the hype train going about how he's going to be using the red zone.
44:12And, uh, you know, he's a, he's a good, uh, asset from that perspective, which obviously will lead to being more productive in fantasy football.
44:19Um, and so I've actually been drafting, like I'll get naked Jackson dart and I'll just get Malachi fields in around 20.
44:26Um, you know, just to get some piece of that offense with him.
44:30Cause I think that they'll end up using him, um, you know, throughout the season, especially with, with the, the injury to neighbors.
44:37So watch out for fields, given that size and how they might deploy him in the red zone.
44:43All right. Um, Jonah Coleman. Yeah. Yeah. I'm on an Island with Jonah Coleman.
44:47Same. Yeah. It's, uh, no one likes Jonah Coleman, uh, because there's two guys ahead of him on the depth chart.
44:53And I don't mind RJ Harvey either. I've become a Harvey bro based on how his ADP has fallen.
44:59But Jonah Coleman is a backup to both JK Dobbins and RJ Harvey, right?
45:03He can play an early down role. He did that throughout college.
45:07He was a really good pass catcher. He's good in pass pro.
45:11Like there's, he's, he's a, he's a, we said this on, on, uh, becoming a basketball bro.
45:16He's a Jack of all trades, master of none.
45:19And that can be fine in an environment where you have a veteran running back who's, who's been hurt throughout his career
45:25and a very volatile second year running back in RJ Harvey.
45:29I think that they wanted a player who was a little bit more stable, which is what you get with Jonah Coleman.
45:36And so to me, the instant that you hear from beat reporters that he's going to be mixed in with the first
45:42team, he's one of those players that can rise in ADP because all of a sudden you're like, Oh, he might have some standalone value in best ball.
45:51If things just kind of go his way in a given game, cause he might see five to seven touches or something,
45:58but also there's multiple contingent outs for him. If one of those two guys gets hurt.
46:03Um, so I think Jonah Coleman was a good prospect and I think he's underrated in best ball right now.
46:09And, you know, and I wrote about this in the draft guide, like I would only draft them in season long if
46:16it's like a deep bench type type of situation, but I still think that he is draftable in that kind of environment as well.
46:23Yeah. For me right now, the guy, cause I've, I've even been getting some, some RJ Harvey.
46:28We've talked about Harvey a lot on the show.
46:31The one guy I haven't been getting in this offense is JK Dobbins.
46:35I haven't been drafting Dobbins. I don't, I think it's completely defensible.
46:39Like there, to me, there is no reason in season long.
46:42If you look at JK Dobbins, I'll do it right now because I have the Yahoo and the ESPN ADP Yahoo has
46:49them at RB 35 ESPN RB 33. And then if you look at Jordan Mason, Yahoo has an RB 44 ESPN RB 46.
46:56And to me, it's the exact same archetype archetype.
46:58Like it's the exact same type of player. You get an early down grinder and you could argue that Jordan Mason has
47:05easier competition in his backfield than JK Dobbins does.
47:08Dobbins was not used at all as a receiver last year.
47:11And so, you know, was he good on the ground?
47:14Yeah. But we know that he's coming off an injury.
47:17He's often injured himself. Uh, and, and he's not a pass catcher.
47:21And there's now a Jonah Coleman factor that maybe he sees no work, but there's a chance he sees some, I don't
47:28see what the upside is with JK Dobbins. I just don't get it.
47:32And people are drafting him as high as like RB 30.
47:35And I just, I can't get behind that because the pass catching profile is not there.
47:40And people are going to hate on that because they're like, Oh, you just care about pass catching stuff.
47:46It's like, no, you can arbitrage this kind of player.
47:49That's my point. You can get a Jordan Mason 50 picks later on a platform like ESPN.
47:54There's no reason to reach for a guy like Dobbins.
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49:02Okay, this next guy's been steamed up already in the best ball circles, but redraft might be lagging just a little bit.
49:09It's A.D. Mitchell, wide receiver for the Jets. Yeah.
49:12I mean, I think we're going to get reports that he's out there in two wide receiver sets, that he's their number two wide receiver.
49:20Omar Cooper's more of a slot guy for them.
49:22And we know the athleticism's there. I mean, he's actually not been that bad on a per-route run basis throughout his career even.
49:29And so I think that he's not a terrible dart.
49:33If you want to look his way in a deeper format, I definitely drafted him in best ball plenty.
49:38But I think there's a real chance that we see him sort of get closer to where Omar Cooper is going and
49:45maybe even flip by the time training camp is done.
49:48Okay, next on the list, we have Elijah Surratt, the wide receiver for the Ravens.
49:53Yes. This one is very simply Elijah Surratt really profiled as a slot guy, a big slot.
49:58You know, I remember having a text conversation with Harmon back in February when I was doing some of my prospect breakdowns.
50:05And I told him that Elijah Surratt was getting like Michael Thomas and Pat Bryant type comps.
50:10And then Harmon mentioned to me that when he watched him, he couldn't get off the vibe and the idea that he was more of a big slot.
50:19Now, Harmon said that before about players and he's been right.
50:22Like Keon Coleman, he called a big slot. And we see that lack of separation on the outside from Keon Coleman.
50:28And I think Harmon nailed that, right? And I think that we could see a very similar situation here, except hopefully you
50:35have a smarter staff in front office saying, yeah, we're going to deploy him that way because we lost Isaiah likely and
50:42we need more of a presence in the middle of the field alongside Mark Andrews.
50:46And if that happens, I think people are going to get more excited about Surratt because when you get a late round
50:53pick and you can attach him to a certain role in an offense, that role might be, you know, not like 13,
51:0014 PPR points per game, but a role that could see some spiked weeks is going to excite people.
51:06And I think that we could see that with a player like Surratt.
51:10Sure-handed, big wide receiver for sure. Um, speaking of sure-handed, big burly, just amazing tight end Gunner Helm next on this list.
51:17Yeah. You know, the athleticism, I'm just kidding. Um, so yeah, I mean, like Gunner Helm had horrible athleticism scores cause he
51:23got hurt, you know, in the, in his drills, um, and still ran, still ran with a busted ankle.
51:29Look at the picture of him for nine. Look at the picture with him and that ankle and think, could a regular human do this?
51:37Yeah. Okay. I mean, I don't even care about that stuff to be, to be fair.
51:42Uh, what I do care about is with late round tight ends, you often want an open pass catching room where we
51:48don't know exactly, you know, more ambiguous, right? We don't know exactly how targets are going to get distributed.
51:54I think we kind of have that in Tennessee right now.
51:58There's no tight end that he's really competing with.
52:00They did get Daniel Bellinger, uh, you know, a Brian Dable fave.
52:04Um, but he's not that much of a threat from like a pure pass catching standpoint.
52:09So I think if there's some chatter about him being a top target on the team, which I think is very possible,
52:16uh, Gunner Helm could, could rise a little bit, uh, in ADP.
52:19I'm definitely ahead of the market right now with, with Helm.
52:23I don't even think he's ranked on some of the big platforms.
52:26Yeah. All right. Uh, last on this list, we have Daman Claiborne.
52:30And then I want to ask you about a guy who I think could be on this list.
52:36Yeah. There's a lot that I could have thrown out there.
52:39So if I miss somebody, um, you know, it's definitely, uh, possible that I just, you know, like, I like that person as a candidate as well.
52:47But yeah, I mean, look, I I've, I've been on oddly team Jordan Mason this summer now for the last few weeks, like month or so.
52:55And, uh, I, it's a weird place for me to be because I've not been on team Jordan Mason in the past.
53:02And, uh, I, but I, I still recognize that Mason is not necessarily like a complete running back.
53:08He certainly doesn't have the pass catching chops. Right.
53:10Uh, and then Aaron Jones is, is older. And, uh, again, a guy near and dear to my heart for a lot
53:17of reasons, but he's older and, uh, definitely looks like he's, he's lost a little bit of a step, you know, uh,
53:2432 beat writers, friend of the show, uh, on Twitter.
53:27Uh, he, uh, they, they had posted a quote that says Daman Claiborne, uh, about Daman Claiborne says executives, coaches, and teammates
53:34quietly raved about his movement skills this spring. This is where it was kind of funny though.
53:39It says, if he can master the system, pass protection rules and ball security, buckle your seatbelt.
53:44So it's like, if he can, if he can play the running back position, watch out guys.
53:49But no, like the reason that you get excited about Daman Claiborne from an ADP rising perspective is because it's an ambiguous backfield with a very clear opening.
53:58And Daman Claiborne is at the very least, very athletic.
54:01He ran a four, three, seven 40. He had a pretty good pass catching profile.
54:06I think he's more of a threat to Aaron Jones and the role that Jones plays in that offense.
54:11Uh, but even still, you know, if we could get a, you know, five to 6% target share and, you know, like
54:18maybe we get like eight touches a game towards the middle of the season.
54:22And that, that slowly climbs the double digits towards the end of the season.
54:27I think that's possible for him. I don't think that he is a true bell cow back though.
54:32He's a very small running back. Like he's sub one 90.
54:36Uh, I don't think that we're going to see that kind of role with him, but when he was drafted, I think
54:42I mentioned like he, he pairs really well with Jordan Mason, like realistically, similar to how I think Aaron Jones in a
54:49hypothetical world pairs well with Jordan Mason. So we'll see what happens, but he's definitely a player that is going to get steamed.
54:56I think of all these guys in this list, he's probably top three for me that will get a lot of love, uh, as training camp goes on.
55:05Did you see, uh, our buddy Pat Thorman? He tweeted, uh, yesterday, the athletic might've hung the most, but she's got a
55:12great personality blurb ever on Aaron Jones. And the blurb was if you pulled NFL players, Jones may rank in the top
55:18five of the nicest and most respected. Yeah. Right.
55:21I mean, it's not, it's a, I I've said this before and like, you know, I like throwing these kinds of like
55:28stories out there, but like when I first started prospecting was the year, I think it's 2017.
55:33It was, it was his class. Uh, that's when I first started like vaguely prospecting and the stuff that I was working on loved Aaron Jones.
55:41So I followed him really early when he had like 5,000 followers on Twitter and he followed me back.
55:47And so like every, I know I've told this story before, but every time there's like a chart or something that I
55:54post where it's negative about Aaron Jones and someone like tags him or something like that.
55:59Uh, I can always be like, you know, I'm an OG and he's like, yeah, you're an OG.
56:04We're good. Um, all right. Some guys that might not be on this list.
56:08I am interested in the, um, the two rookie tight ends with Sadiq.
56:12And yeah, Stowers both being potential guys that, I mean, Stowers has just fallen off the board now.
56:18Yeah. I mean, there was reports about him just like having like a red shirt season essentially.
56:23Right. And we don't know that's for sure at all.
56:26I mean, that's, that is the thing with Stowers.
56:29It's really interesting to me is that like that, again, this goes back to when we were doing the prospecting work and
56:36it was always lost, but Stowers is like, like a lot older than Kenyon Sadiq.
56:40And so you, you don't want that to happen for Eli Stowers.
56:44You don't want this rookie season to be one where he doesn't get any production because that's typically a pretty rough sign
56:51for a guy who's a little bit older. They already knew he couldn't block, but you don't have, you don't have to
56:57block if you're a pass catching tight end. Right.
57:00And if they're, you know, this new system with hurts, I'm anxious to see where Stowers is.
57:05And same with Sadiq because people are out on Sadiq and he's been playing.
57:10I mean, he's been hurt. And so when he had the like hernia and so we'll see, like I, I, I've been drafting Sadiq.
57:17I think that, that he's actually not a bad pick.
57:20It's just that some of these platforms like an ESPN has them at a reasonable price.
57:25So I, I, you know, I haven't called him out as like a late round dart throw.
57:30All right. Let's wrap up this show. All right.
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58:18Yes. Yes. And someone's asking a question about the draft guide saying, will you be removing any of your targets from your draft guide?
58:25If ADP shifts enough, the answer is absolutely. Yes.
58:28I update blurs. I'll, I'll remove players. I'll, I'll add updates to, to the blurbs to say, this is how I'm feeling about this guy.
58:36Now there's just right now, not enough movement going on in ADP, uh, for me to really like, like if there's any
58:42changes to players and targets, uh, players to target and avoid, it's based on my own research as opposed to the market
58:49shifting because the market's just not moving that much right now.
58:53We're right now in like the speculation phase, you know?
58:56And two weeks is going to be different. Right.
58:58There's gonna be a lot more movement. Yeah. Completely different.
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59:28um, we're gonna be doing some stuff, more stuff in there, JJ.
59:32Uh, we've got fancy football expo this weekend. You and I, I'm actually going to be doing some drafts this year.
59:38Last year, I just watched you. I sat in my chair and I watched you doing your drafts this year.
59:44I'll be doing my own drafts. You're in the, you're in the Jim Brown division.
59:49Yeah. No, uh, the Blanda division. The Blanda division.
59:52I can't remember if I'm Brown or Blanda, but I'm in the, so if you guys are at the expo, if you
59:58go to the hall of fame, uh, on Saturday, um, there will be various rooms where one room in the, in the
60:05room that I'll be in where we're drafting, we'll have like serious XM set up and stuff like that.
60:11And then there's a room next to it, which is where kitchen will be drafting where you'll get to see not only
60:18the drafts go down, but there's auctioneers for the auction draft.
60:21So we do a, a snake draft, have lunch and then do an auction draft.
60:26So we're literally drafting for like nine straight hours.
60:29Um, but it's funny because Bob lung who runs the expo, he, uh, randomly assigned, uh, uh, picks and draft slots for us.
60:36And it just so happens that in the snake draft in our divisions, uh, kitchen and I both drew the one-on-one.
60:42So I haven't gotten the one-on-one in best ball, but I got it in this, which I'll take, I'll take that.
60:49Yeah. Pick luck, especially in 14 team, uh, leagues is, uh, is good.
60:52I also want to shout out, um, feature who says definitely going to be there next year.
60:58He also sent me a master's hat. So shout out to, uh, to feature if I wore it on last, last week's
61:04stream, uh, when I was drafting on the channel, we also got, we also got Jay bolt who will be there this weekend.
61:12Uh, yes, no, we have, we have a few members that are going to be there this weekend.
61:17I, yeah, it's going to be great. It's a, it's a great time.
61:21It's a great time. It's going to be a fun time.
61:24Uh, this was also a fun time JJ and we appreciate everyone for tuning in and, uh, you know, getting down and nerdy with us on this show.
61:33And we'll see you next time here on the late round fantasy football show.
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