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0:58JJ Zacharyarysen. What's up everyone? It's JJ Zacharyarysen. And in this episode 1132 of the Late Round Fantasy Football Podcast, thanks for tuning in.
1:06Late Round Fantasy Football members get a lot of stuff in season.
1:10There's weekly rankings, which include top 100 flex rankings.
1:13There's a live stream Q&A with yours truly for over an hour every Tuesday night.
1:18There's rest of season rankings, monthly dynasty rankings updates, an incredibly awesome and active Discord community, and so much more.
1:25To learn more about becoming a Late Round member, just head to LATEROUND.com.
1:29It's a mailbag day. Let's get to these questions.
1:32The first question this week is from Raul from the Members Hub.
1:36It says, Would like to know how you see Malik Nabors rest of season without Jackson Dart.
1:41With some managers panicking is now a good buy low opportunity.
1:45Yeah, so my rest of season rankings, I put Nabors in the tier that had him as like a high-end wide receiver too, assuming that he's healthy.
1:54And that health part is key. We're still kind of waiting to know exactly what's going on with Malik Nabors.
2:01But for purposes of this discussion, let's assume that he plays, and that he's healthy.
2:06Now there was some pushback with my ranking. Because he was coming off of a bad game, and Jameis Winston looked terrible against the Rams.
2:14And I get it. But let me just explain this logic.
2:18I don't know how much we can really take away from that game.
2:22Jameis came in off the bench. They were facing a good defense.
2:26They were on the road. The Rams were in a must-win spot.
2:30And Nabors had a shoulder injury. That he apparently had to pop back into place.
2:35I'm trying to have a greater view of this than just week two.
2:39Like genuinely, if that week didn't even exist, and you told someone that Jameis Winston, a guy who has helped carry wide
2:46receivers through passing volume and down the field throws throughout his career, if you told someone before the season that Jameis Winston
2:54would be Malik Nabors' quarterback, I feel like Nabors would easily be ranked as a wide receiver one.
3:00That people wouldn't view that as like a disastrous thing.
3:03I mean, the last time when we saw Jameis Winston as a consistent starter in the league, he was carrying Jerry Judy.
3:10Jameis Winston started two games last year. He had 201 and 366 passing yards in those games.
3:16He was second behind Malik Willis and passing yards per game started last year.
3:21Willis though, he only had that one start where he dominated the Ravens.
3:25So small sample size, one game, two games, what does that really matter?
3:29Well in 2024, he ranked only behind Jimmy Garoppolo and Josh Dobbs in passing yards per start.
3:35Josh Dobbs started one game. It was week 18.
3:38Guess what? Jimmy Garoppolo also started one game in week 18.
3:42Jameis Winston started seven. What that means is that of all quarterbacks who have started more than one game since the start
3:49of the 2024 season, Jameis Winston is first in yards per start at almost 290.
3:54Second is Jared Goff. Now this obviously is not the end all, but we know that Jameis loves to throw the ball down the field.
4:02He has a nine yard average depth of target over this two year timeframe.
4:07And I'm a believer that Malik Nabors, if healthy again, I want to stress that caveat.
4:12If he's healthy, but Nabors is one of the most talented wide receivers in this game.
4:17That 2024 Giants team saw Daniel Jones, Drew Locke and Tommy DeVito get starts.
4:22In 2025, we got a little Russell Wilson with Malik Nabors.
4:26I mean, it's kind of crazy, but Malik Nabors has only run 40 routes in his career with Jackson Dart under center.
4:33But let's look at this with every quarterback. With Daniel Jones on 277 routes, Nabors had a 2.19 yards per route run
4:40rate, and he saw a target on 33% of his routes run.
4:44With Drew Locke, those numbers were 176 routes, 2.56 yards per route run, and a 31% targets per route run rate.
4:51With Tommy DeVito, only 48 routes run, but he still had a 1.94 yards per route run rate.
4:57He saw a target on 31% of his routes run.
5:00And then with Russell Wilson, he had a 2.04 yards per route run rate, and 26% of his routes run resulted in a target.
5:08And that was on 123 routes. With bad quarterback after bad quarterback, Malik Nabors has gotten it done.
5:14We're talking about a yards per route run rate well above 2, while seeing a target on over 30% of his routes run.
5:22And that was mostly when Malik Nabors was a rookie.
5:25Look, if you'd rather play it safe with Malik Nabors because of this injury, and maybe it lingers, maybe they eventually just shut him down.
5:34I totally get it. You don't have to go out and buy Nabors.
5:38And I also recognize that this is a new offense.
5:41There's a very real chance they don't want Jameis Winston to just sling it.
5:46They want to play things more conservatively. And that Nabors, he falls as a result.
5:51But there's definitely an opportunity right now to buy very low.
5:55I've seen this sentiment across social media. People are not bullish about Malik Nabors.
5:59I'm just trying to come at this from a different perspective.
6:03From the perspective of, we can look at this as doom and gloom, because it's not good news.
6:09But there's not only downside here. Malik Nabors is a very special talent.
6:13And he's already proven that he can perform with bad quarterback play.
6:17And I would argue from a fantasy perspective, Jameis Winston is not as bad as some of those other quarterbacks.
6:24Not even close. So there is an upside case here.
6:27And that's why I still think he should be ranked as a higher end wide receiver to rest of season.
6:34This next one's from Tony via the members hub.
6:37He says, Hey JJ, thanks for all you do.
6:40Can you give out some players you think have seen okay enough numbers to start the season, but maybe the fantasy community just isn't on them enough?
6:49Maybe another way to say this would be second half breakout types.
6:53Are there any obvious players that we should be targeting?
6:56So I got another question similar to this one on Twitter this week, which focused more on just strictly second half breakouts.
7:03But let's just dig in and toss some names out there who I think people just aren't talking about enough in the fantasy football world.
7:11That's an easier way to frame this. Players that I think we should be thinking about more in fantasy football.
7:18Let's start with some rookies. These are going to be more of the second half breakout types.
7:24Makai Lemon saw his route share rise a little bit week over week.
7:28And even though he had just a 3% target share against the Titans, he did play a lot more outside in week two versus week one.
7:37It was more of that traditional wide receiver role.
7:40His week one a dot was zero yards. His week two a dot was 13 yards.
7:45There were fewer manufactured touches. Now, it's not good that he couldn't command more targets, but he's young.
7:51He missed camp. I think there's definitely still some hope there.
7:55There was at least some positive signs usage wise week over week.
7:59I also want to throw Ted Hurst out there, but I talked about him earlier in the week on the 10 trends episode.
8:06And then you guys know how I feel about Kenyon Sadiq.
8:10I won't dig in there. One more rookie to call out here, and it's not Antonio Williams who I also talked about.
8:17Let's look at Jeremy Bernard. He had a pretty good week too.
8:21He got more run in that game with Michael Pittman out.
8:25He had a 74% route share. He saw 22% target share too.
8:29I thought overall he looked good, but there was a play in that game that's going to be highlighted and people are
8:36going to think that Bernard had a terrible game because of it because of that one play.
8:42But there was this quick pass over to him on the outside on a screen.
8:47He bobbled it. It flew up in the air and it was intercepted.
8:51But if you watch Bernard play by play, I thought the toughness that we really liked about his prospect profile, it really translated.
8:59So I do think that he's kind of stash worthy.
9:02I just wish the offense was better. I still wouldn't give up on Carnell Tate either.
9:07There could just be some growing pains there. But his peripherals are not bad to start the season.
9:1383% route share, 29% target share. He's underperformed expected points by two points per game.
9:18Now let's shift to the non-rookies. I'm not ready to just give up on Luther Burden after two games.
9:24I know you guys are just thinking that I'm doubling down on a bad take, but just so everyone's on the same
9:32page here, there are no W's and L's in season.
9:35That is not how I do things. We worry about that after the season's over.
9:40I get excited about things when things are going well, for sure.
9:44I get upset when things aren't going well. My job is to give good fantasy advice.
9:49I want to give good fantasy advice. But the way I handle my business here is that I don't talk through the
9:57things that I got right and the things that I got wrong mid-season.
10:01At least on this show. There's absolutely no use in talking through that process right now today.
10:07I'm trying to help you guys win fantasy titles.
10:10Not hold onto my priors and talk about the draft.
10:13Something that's already done. Okay, I won't bring that up again this season.
10:17Back to Burden. I do think it's favorable that in two games he still has over a 21% target share.
10:24He's got almost double the expected fantasy points as Roma Dunze.
10:27We may not see big things for a little bit from this offense given the Caleb Williams injury, but if we're focused
10:35on the second half, yeah, I think Luther Burden is still intriguing.
10:39And then one more wide receiver that I think is just being pushed aside, Michael Wilson.
10:44Marvin Harrison Jr. has not looked good. And like I said on the 10 trends episode, Trey McBride is seeing route regression.
10:51He's not running as many routes as he did last year.
10:55He's just seeing insane efficiency per route run. He's seeing so many looks per route run.
11:00I just don't want to bank on that continuing because it would be historic.
11:05Michael Wilson hasn't gotten it done to start the year, but the peripherals are there.
11:10He's fifth among wide receivers in route share. And despite a pretty iffy performance thus far, he does have a 22% target share.
11:18Just a small shift in McBride, a small shift in how often they're targeting him.
11:23We could see Wilson with a 25% target share in this offense.
11:27And then there are two running backs I want to call out.
11:31One is Jalen Warren. I just think he's a better player than Rico Dowdle period.
11:35Dowdle is a little bit banged up right now, but Warren's crushing him in adjusted yards after contact per rush so far this year.
11:43He's got the pass catching edge. Dowdle has actually played more third down snaps, but Warren has a higher route share and
11:51he's already been more effective per route run. Now it's a small sample, of course, but it's just a continuation of what
11:58we knew and thought entering the season about Jalen Warren.
12:01He's a really effective running back. And then the last running back I want to talk about the second one is Bayshall Tootin.
12:09Tootin's eighth in the NFL right now in yards after contact among the backs with 20 or more carries.
12:15He's 11th in adjusted yards after contact per attempt.
12:18And Jalen Warren, by the way, he's third in that statistic.
12:22It's small sample size stuff. Sure. But there's really a lot working in Tootin's favor.
12:27He's sixth in his rate of gaining 10 or more yards on the ground.
12:32He trails only Kenneth Walker and Jameer Gibbs in missed tackles forced.
12:36I mean, Tootin has looked good to start the season.
12:39We just need Jacksonville to eventually see that and give him more work.
12:43So those are some players who come to mind with these types of questions.
12:48Players who I think the fantasy community just aren't talking about enough as either by low candidates, second half breakouts, or players
12:55who have just done well to start the season, but maybe not so much in the fantasy football stat sheets.
13:02The next question is from Paul that says, Hey, JJ, getting concerned with Drake May after two weeks and he is my only quarterback.
13:10I'm thinking about going after Goff or Young on the waiver wire.
13:14We also have Baker, Stroud and Love. What are your thoughts on May and who would you target on the waiver wire?
13:21So of those quarterbacks, I have Goff highest rest of season.
13:25But with Drake May, yeah, I think there are some reasons to be concerned.
13:29I had a data dump nugget about him this week and I said, Drake May went from week two through the wildcard
13:37round last year without a single game with a negative EPA per drop back.
13:41Since then, he hasn't had a game with a positive EPA per drop back.
13:46But we also have to keep in mind who he's faced.
13:49He's faced some really tough defenses, Houston, Denver, Seattle, Seattle again, and then Pittsburgh last week.
13:55Pittsburgh's defense looks a lot better this year with Patrick Graham as defensive coordinator.
13:59We can definitely make excuses for Drake May based on the schedule, but at the same time, for a guy that we
14:07need to trust each week, he's got to be able to perform in those matchups, you know?
14:12And I think that's kind of the problem right now.
14:16With that being said, we're still getting four scrambles per game from Drake May.
14:20That's third highest in the league behind only Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels.
14:25We're over that 30 rushing yards per game mark so far.
14:28And the schedule does ease up quite a bit starting this week.
14:32So I wouldn't full blown panic with Drake May, especially because in the second half of the year, hopefully, fingers crossed, he should get AJ Brown back.
14:41This next question is from Twitter from at Hungry Stoic.
14:45It says, it's my first year in a guillotine slash chop league.
14:49Besides knowing your league, are there any general rules of thumb for fab bidding compared to regular leagues?
14:54So I get a ton of guillotine questions every week on the waiver wire Q&A live stream.
15:00And it's gotten to the point where I do genuinely believe that they're just impossible to answer.
15:06We can sit here and make blanket statements about free agent budgets.
15:10But I do think that it's really, really important to recognize that your league influences what you should spend dramatically.
15:16And I'm not just saying how your league mates bid.
15:20That's not what I mean by your league. I'm talking about league size.
15:24A larger league means you have to spend more.
15:27I mean league settings. Obviously, a league where you're starting more wide receivers, the importance of that position is higher.
15:34I mean league scoring. Scoring settings differ by league, which can impact how you want to spend.
15:39I mean league bench size. If the free agency poll is really weak because rosters are really large, then you'll have to
15:47spend more when bidding on even a mediocre player.
15:50A lot of that applies to regular waivers too.
15:53Regular season long leagues. It's just not as big of a deal from an advice giving perspective because you don't have to be as precise with regular waivers.
16:02With non-fab waivers. And this just gets blown up even further when talking about guillotine leagues.
16:07Because where your roster is currently situated, how good your roster is, that actually matters a lot more to me in a
16:14guillotine league than a regular season long league. Let me explain what I mean by that.
16:20So in a managed season long league, you're trying to accumulate value throughout the season.
16:25There aren't loads and loads of opportunities to get wide receiver ones and RB ones off the waiver wire.
16:31In fact, you probably won't find a player like that on the waiver wire throughout the season.
16:37That means even if your roster is really good, when those opportunities arise, you still want to get that player or go after that really good player.
16:46Because you want your roster to get better. That opportunity to get a stud may not happen ever again.
16:52It probably won't. That's not true at all in a guillotine league.
16:56In a guillotine league, you're going to have an opportunity every single week to get a possible RB one or a possible wide receiver one.
17:04So if your roster is in really good shape, you absolutely should not be spending the same way as a bad roster would spend.
17:12That's why I think blanket spending advice in guillotine leagues is completely worthless.
17:16Instead, focus on probability. Think about this through a different lens.
17:20In a normal guillotine league, you're going to start with 18 teams, then 17, then 16 and so on.
17:26That means in week one, you have a 94.4% chance to advance to week two.
17:31Because 17 of the 18 teams are going to advance.
17:35And obviously, as you get later in the season, there are fewer teams, which means the remaining teams are just going to be a lot better.
17:43They have so many good players. That's when you want to have your free agent budget.
17:49That's when you want to play bully ball. You can think of this another way too.
17:54I'm in a guillotine league that's been going on for like six or seven years now.
17:59After week one, we had Jamar Chase get picked up for almost 60% of a manager's budget.
18:05Multiple teams bid over 30% of their budget to get Chase.
18:09I would never do that if my roster was even just average in my league.
18:13Because if you're spending early, you're banking on that roster.
18:17Just simply hitting. We know Jamar Chase is going to be good.
18:21Sure. But in an 18 team league, your roster is going to have some holes.
18:26Even if Jamar Chase is on it. It's like that one meme of the really expensive sports car parked in the trailer park.
18:33So the rule of thumb here is to understand early season probability.
18:37You have very good odds of advancing each week.
18:40Sometimes you'll get unlucky. I get it. Sometimes you want that comfort of having a Jamar Chase in your roster after spending half of your budget on him.
18:50I get it. I understand. But guys, you don't need to dominate early in the season in a guillotine league.
18:56You just have to survive. The domination has to come later in the season.
19:01And the only way that you can do that is to be smart with your spending.
19:06To not go crazy when there's this shiny new toy on the waiver wire.
19:11Even if your team desperately needs it. Instead, go after the middle tiered guys.
19:15The guys that no one really cares about. The guys like Rashad Bateman.
19:20It's not like they're incapable of giving you a strong performance.
19:23And it's not like the stud that you just paid for.
19:27It's not like he's guaranteed to give you a great performance either.
19:31The last one this week is from Twitter. It's from at fantasy guy M.
19:36It says, So to get everyone caught up here.
19:39I looked at the top performers in a given season.
19:42Top 24 quarterbacks and tight ends. Top 48 wide receivers and running backs.
19:46And I could look at top 12 and top 24 there too.
19:50I tried to see if there was any predictive value between how well they performed in week one and how they performed end of season.
19:59And there was very, very little. Early season production mattered more at some positions like running back.
20:04But overall, week one performance didn't explain a ton about week two to end of season performance.
20:10But what you're saying in this question is, What if we just looked at the players who performed really well in week
20:17one versus the players who didn't perform well? The short answer to that is no.
20:22Good performances aren't any more predictive. I tested the data.
20:25I looked through it. You could maybe say that it matters more at quarterback.
20:30Like if a quarterback finishes top 12 in week one.
20:33But that's about it. But I wanted to talk about this on today's show because there's something kind of profound about it.
20:41And it's the following. A dud performance, it tells you something.
20:44But a boom performance doesn't. Think about what you asked in this question.
20:49You wanted to look at some arbitrary number of top performances.
20:52You said top 40 in your question. Okay. Top 40 flex players or top 40 wide receivers.
20:58Whatever the case may be. You're going 40 deep here.
21:01Those 40 players had good week one performances. But you have to ask the question, how did they get there?
21:08How did they do it? How did they post so many fantasy points?
21:12Realistically, there are many paths to a lot of fantasy points.
21:16A player could do it on one 80 yard touchdown.
21:19He could be relevant on just one catch. Even if that's his only target.
21:24Another player can get into the top 40 by running it 30 times.
21:28He sees tons and tons of volume. We know factually that volume is a driver of this game over the long run.
21:35We're chasing that volume. The production side is what we want.
21:39Yes. But that production can be fluky. I just gave you examples of how it can be fluky.
21:45So when I say a dud performance tells you something, but a boom performance doesn't, what I'm saying is that it's going
21:52to be pretty rare for a dude to see 14 targets in a game and walk away with like 5 PPR points.
22:00But it's not that rare for a player to have 3 targets and give us a pretty nice week.
22:06The duds are going to come from players who consistently are not getting much volume.
22:11But there are boom weeks from players who are also not seeing volume.
22:15Which means there's more noise in what you're talking about here.
22:19The top performers are not automatically getting volume. Volume though is what we're really after.
22:24So keep that thought in mind with this stuff.
22:27We often learn more about dud performances than we do the boom performances.
22:31That's it for today's show though. Thanks to all of you for listening.
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