0:00Big show for you here today. It is the Week 3 Data Dump.
0:04Ray Garvin joins me for 10 Stats You Need to Know heading into Week 3.
0:09Plus, we start off the show with some sad news.
0:12Sounds like Jackson Dart's injury is much more serious than was originally feared.
0:16He might be out for the season. We give an update on what we're thinking about some of these Giants players in fantasy.
0:23Malik Nabors, James Winston not looking so great on the Monday Night Football.
0:26We talk through all of that. Then again, we get into the stats you need to know.
0:32A lot of under center, a lot of scheme talk in today's show.
0:36A lot of Panthers discussion as well. I mean, come on, Bryce Young, absolutely crushing it right now.
0:41All the things you need to know heading into Week 3.
0:44Players that are up, players that are down. Plus, we give you a recap of the Yahoo Fantasy Analyst League.
0:51You don't want to miss that because somebody is 2-0.
0:54With that, let's get into it. What's going on, everyone?
0:57I'm Matt Harmon. Welcome to the Yahoo Fantasy Forecast.
0:59It is a hell of a day to talk ball and joining me to do just that.
1:05It is our good friend, Ray Garvin. Ray, what's going on, man?
1:08How you doing? Matt, we were talking pre-show. It is 2026, and yet we have reversed time of decade to the number one and number two overall pick.
1:17Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota are back in our lives as starting quarterbacks in the NFL.
1:22Honestly, we're going to get into data and talk all this stuff, but what an interesting start to the football season, the fantasy season.
1:29Dude, I know we're going to go places on this show, but man, what a hell of a start of the season, and not in a great way.
1:37Injuries are just part of the game, but pretty rough to start the season, Matt.
1:42I do think we do this every year where it's like, man, injuries are worse than ever.
1:47It's just like injuries are bad every year. Devastating things happen, but you're right to point this out that it's crazy that
1:54not only are Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota still so squarely in our lives, they're also in the same division.
2:00I mean, we're going to get games between these guys.
2:03We're going to get games between these two guys here this season.
2:07Yes, as Ray is alluding to, we do have some big quarterback news to start off with at the top, but we
2:13will, of course, be getting into all of our usual shenanigans, our usual hijinks here on our weekly Tuesday show.
2:19We've got the data dump, 10 stats you need to know heading into week three.
2:24Plus, we've got a little Yahoo Fantasy League recap at the end.
2:28Somebody on this program is 2-0, but we'll get into all of that as we go throughout the day here.
2:34For now, let's get into some fantasy fallout, and again, as we mentioned, further testing revealed that quarterback Jackson Dart of the
2:40New York Giants, his knee injury is worse than initially thought, and now looking at the possibility of season-ending surgery, according to Adam Schefter and Ian Rappaport.
2:49Man, wow, what a brutal turnaround. I mean, I remember doing that just on the show.
2:54I was just live on this YouTube channel not that long ago with Hayden Winks hearing about how the Giants, Joe Shane, saying, oh, he's doing pretty good.
3:02He is doing pretty good. He was fighting to get back in the game on Monday night, fighting to get back in the game.
3:09Everybody on Twitter is telling me good news he was in the air when he was hit.
3:15That might have really saved it, might have really saved his knee.
3:18Now, looking like Jackson Dart might be done for the season after having a really nice week one.
3:24I mean, the vibes have gone from great with the New York Giants beating up on your Dallas Cowboys in week one to now horrible.
3:31Like, not only is Dart maybe out for the season, Neighbors is dealing with the shoulder thing.
3:36Andrew Thomas left that game. Brian Burns left the game.
3:39All their best players, including their young, promising second-year quarterback.
3:43What a devastating piece of news for the Giants to get here.
3:46Yeah, this has been a roller coaster of emotions because it looked awful and everybody felt and thought that it was probably pretty bad.
3:53And then you get to the end of the game and I'm watching the Giants walk off the field and there was
4:00a shot of Jackson Dart and Brian Burns or Jackson Dart and Holland, Javon Holland, walking off.
4:05And Dart's pointing to the crowd. He's smiling. He's looking good.
4:09I'm like, okay, well, he's walking off. He feels okay.
4:12He's okay. Run a bad. He may miss a couple of games.
4:15And then to see this now, listen, this whole, I feel like this whole injury, walk off the field, get carted off gate.
4:22Nobody knows what the hell it is. You get carted off, you're okay.
4:26You walk off on your own, you're not okay.
4:29This is very bad. This is very bad, bad harm.
4:32And this is a Giants team where we have quite a bit from fantasy football vested in this offense from neighbors to Dart, Isaiah Likely, Cam Scadaboo.
4:40And we were talking before the show. I'm just looking at the Winston and I know it was just getting thrown in late.
4:47He didn't look great to me either. He looked pretty bad out there at the quarterback spot.
4:53So devastating news for Dart and more so for fantasy.
4:56This is not good. Not good at all. Yeah, there's an old tweet of mine from December 20.
5:01I mean, it must have been December 2024 where I was joking that remember when Malik neighbors dominated the Indianapolis Colts in
5:08the late in his rookie season and ultimately put the Giants out of contention for picking one of the top quarterbacks in the draft.
5:15Ultimately, they end up with Jackson Dart, of course.
5:18But I was joking at the end of that game.
5:21I was like, yeah, he knows he's just putting himself in position to get them to a skew taking a quarterback so that they can sign.
5:29Jameis Winston in the offseason and Malik neighbors can go for like 2000 yards just getting the Jameis Winston fantasy scam as
5:35Jameis Winston in the middle of that or at the end of that 2024 season was doing the fantasy scam with Jerry Judy and the 2024 Cleveland Browns.
5:44So and then they ended up signing Jameis Winston.
5:47Of course, obviously, he wasn't the starting quarterback. They also started.
5:50They also got Russell Wilson and Jackson Dart in that offseason as well.
5:54But man, yeah, you could tell me a couple of years ago, if not just like a full calendar year ago, Jameis
6:01Winston just pummeling Malik neighbors with targets over and over again.
6:04You could sell me on that being a good story, not for the Giants at all.
6:09It's a bad story, a sad story for the Giants with Dart out.
6:13But for neighbors in fantasy, you could tell me on that being a good thing.
6:17But Jameis did not look great, as you mentioned, specifically like his arm died on a couple of those throws.
6:24That was that was pretty uninspiring. And I just don't really know what to make of this now, because neighbors himself is
6:30also coming back from a major injury. Certainly has not been himself yet, even if he's been a solid player.
6:36And now he's got the shoulder thing going on.
6:39So I just I wish I felt better about that.
6:42Ray, I wish I felt like my 2024 self would have felt about the idea of Jameis Winston, you know, just locking
6:49in on Malik neighbors and throwing him passes all over the football field.
6:53I don't feel that way right now. And that is a shame.
6:56Yeah, neither do I. And you're talking about locking in.
6:59It didn't feel like at least publicly, right? Jameis Winston was everywhere this offseason.
7:04I don't know how much locked in he was at throwing the ball or expecting to play early on, because I thought
7:10he was going to be a broadcaster coming into the season.
7:14I see a lot of people and I'm saying this loosely, like optimistic that Jameis could come in and do exactly what
7:20you said, just feed these options and pepper these guys with targets.
7:24He's not a talented receiver. Greg Roman offense where they were using Pat Ricard, a lot of heavy personnel.
7:30And then on Monday night in week two, they felt a lot more like a Matt Nagy offense.
7:35And that actually is born out in the data where their use of heavy personnel, multiple tight ends, a fullback, multiple running backs.
7:42They dropped down to 20th and heavy personnel ranking in week number two.
7:46After week number one, that was one of the teams that was really up there in terms of that data.
7:52So, yeah, it's just it's a real shame. They were sixth in heavy personnel usage in week one.
7:58So drop off there for sure. I feel like they might be a unit that's caught between two identities.
8:04They don't have their guiding star, which would be their quarterback.
8:07They don't have their guiding star, which would be Malik neighbors at 100 percent.
8:11Clearly just yet. I worry that the Giants week one win might end up being a just like a mirage.
8:17Ultimately, you know, it's one of those week one mirages that we look back and be like, remember when the Giants with
8:24Jackson Dart looking good, throwing passes in the flat all over Christian Parker's defense.
8:28I'm a little concerned about that. Certainly, you know, if you took neighbors in the third round, you were feeling like you might got a value.
8:36Maybe you still do. I'm a little nervous about this.
8:39This whole Giants operation. So we'll wait to get more news on Jackson Dart, but certainly a unit that I think is going in the wrong direction here.
8:48More quarterback news real quickly. We can touch on this because we're not 100 percent sure how this is going to play out.
8:55But Bears quarterback Tyson Bajan. Yes, the likely starting quarterback for the Bears this week.
8:59He is dealing with a concussion. He's in the concussion protocol, according to sources from rap sheet and case Keenum.
9:05Talk about a guy like, oh, wow. Jameis Winston might be starting games.
9:09Marcus Mariota. Case Keenum starting games in the year 2026.
9:12I remember writing about case. I was writing case Keenum film breakdowns on backyard banter dot com in 2013.
9:18My first blog before I'd even sniffed the podcast, Mike.
9:21That's for sure. So, I mean, we might get case Keenum this week against an Eagles defense.
9:26That is pretty concerning for all of these Bears pass catchers who have not gotten off to a hot start in fantasy this year.
9:34Ray. Yeah, I love the graphic on the screen.
9:37You got to go back to 2019. The Eagles are 2-0 against Case Keenum back in 2019, 2018 when he was quarterbacking an NFC championship Vikings team.
9:45This is, again, adjusting expectations. And honestly, I don't know when the last time he's thrown a pass, when he's played.
9:51I don't know if we can spin this to say this is good for the Bears pass catchers.
9:57This is bad. Caleb not being there is bad overall.
10:00Baygent not being there. I just, I really don't know what to say besides this is the game that we choose to
10:06burden ourselves with week in and week out. You can't feel good, right?
10:10I don't care how you slice this. If Case Keenum starting, if I'm a defensive coordinator, I'm lighting him up and making him beat us with the arm.
10:19And I have little confidence that Case Keenum at this stage of his career, not when you were writing about him back
10:26in 2013, that he is going to be able to dice defenses up with his arm.
10:30This is, listen, panic meter. You talk about it.
10:33I write about it. Everybody like this is, what do you do, Matt?
10:37Now we're panicked. Now we're panicked. Okay. Last time Case Keenum threw a pass was Christmas Eve in 2023.
10:43What a magical moment for the Houston Texans against the Cleveland Browns.
10:47He had 17 attempts, 11 completions for 62 yards and two interceptions.
10:50Of course he did. Of course he did. 3.6 yards per attempt.
10:54Earlier that year, the week before, December 17, 2023 against the Tennessee Titans, 229 yards, one touchdown, one interception.
11:00Okay. All right. Moving in the right direction there.
11:02We'll put those in the projection model. Yeah, you let me know.
11:06Put that forward look into 2026. Harmon, I don't know what to do with that.
11:11What do you want me to do with that?
11:13The Bears scored 59 points in week one and now we're already in the Case Keenum zone?
11:18How has this happened? I mean, my God. Brutal, brutal stuff here.
11:22Yeah. I mean, of course, we'll wait to see if this is truly what's going to happen here.
11:28Case Keenum starting games in 2026. Three seasons ago, last time he's thrown a pass.
11:32He's basically been a glorified quarterback coach here for quite some time.
11:36Yeah. Obviously, this is bad. I would not be jacked up about starting Luther Burden or Roma Dunze.
11:41And Colson Lovell was the guy I was like, you know, I said on the panic meter, I actually don't have any panic about Colson Lovell.
11:49And I'm going to be I'm going to continue to ride the wave.
11:53Now, I think that wave's pretty rocky at this point.
11:56Right. So I'm choppy. The way it's getting a little choppy.
12:00Wave might be getting a little choppy here, but I'm not sure what you do.
12:04Like you plug in a waiver wire option. Who's on the waiver wire?
12:08You starting. Actually, you know what? Right. Let's use that as a transition point, because there might be a tight end who
12:15plays for the first team that you want to talk about that maybe people could pick up and start here.
12:21With that, let's get into the week three data dump.
12:24Yes, science. Calculations are correct. You're going to see some serious.
12:27Yeah, I'm seeing some serious. You know what? Across the NFL with these quarterback injuries.
12:32I mean, oh, my God. OK, Ray, your first data point.
12:35I was hinting at this about with Darren Waller was the tight end I was talking about.
12:40Had himself a couple of moments in week two.
12:43He plays for the Carolina Panthers. You want to talk about their youngish quarterback.
12:47What do you got here for your first data point?
12:50We'll go back to 2023, but not Case Keenum.
12:53The 2023 number one overall pick, Bryce Young in this Carolina Panthers offense.
12:57Matt, is this an offense that quietly and, you know, sneakily we want pieces of this offense?
13:02Right now, this Brad Idzik and Bryce Young connection, it's working right now.
13:06It is working. And you're looking at the options, you know, Ted Rohn-McMillan, Jalen Coker.
13:11You mentioned Darren Waller there as one of his red zone targets, Chuba Hubbard in the receiving game.
13:16And we don't wish for injuries here. But with Jonathan Brooks nursing the groin injury, like there's just some more clarity inside of this offense.
13:24But you look at Carolina right now. So I looked at, I put together this chart, right?
13:29Offensive creativity versus fantasy football opportunity. It's not some new model.
13:32It's just looking at teams who are running motion, deployment and target allocation to your receivers, your running backs, tight ends.
13:39There's play action, RPO, like different things to get defenses off script.
13:42And Carolina ranks 13th through two weeks. But what's really interesting is they're right there with the Detroit Lions where there's a lot of fantasy opportunity.
13:50They're expected fantasy points per play. Third in the NFL right now.
13:54Third in the NFL despite being right closer to the middle of the pack in offensive creativity.
13:59But you see Carolina there next to the Rams.
14:02Wide receivers are accounting for 53% of the team's expected fantasy points.
14:06Running backs 27%, which tells me that Bryce Young finally is starting to become a floor raising type quarterback supporting a real receiving ecosystem.
14:13Whether that be Waller, Chuba Hubbard in the receiving game.
14:16And he's done this without receiving touchdowns to Tedderola McMillan and only two to Jalen Coker in week one.
14:22Right? The running back deployment is here. They're using motion on about 70% of the charted plays.
14:27Play action on about 19% of charted plays. So it's a two-week sample size.
14:31And you don't want to make sweeping wholesale conclusions about a team, an ecosystem, an environment.
14:36But as Josh Norris said, like at this point, you've got to remove the preconceived bias about who Bryce Young was early in his career.
14:44What he was in year two when he got benched.
14:47Like this has changed with Dave Canales relinquishing play calling duties.
14:50He has been one of the best quarterbacks so far in this young NFL season.
14:55And the answer to your question is, if Darren Waller were on waivers, because we're not just talking about a Loveland banged up.
15:02We're not just talking, you know, Loveland not producing.
15:04You've got Dallas Goddard banged up. They had to bring Zach Ertz back into the building.
15:09If Darren Waller is out there, I think based on what they're doing offensively, there might be some worse options if you had to stream them.
15:17Darren Waller, 3% rostered in Yahoo League. So he's certainly available.
15:20Somebody you can consider here. They're playing the Cleveland Browns.
15:24A little bit better defense than what they've played so far, you know, with the Bears and the Falcons.
15:29But I agree with you on this one. And like, I think, Ray, if you polled the I bet you I bet
15:36you if you polled a bunch of Twitter users, you know, or people that listen to this show, maybe not people to
15:43listen to this show because we actually talk about a lot.
15:46But we'll just say like general NFL fans. I bet a lot of people don't even know that Dave Canales is not
15:53calling the plays anymore, that this is Brad Idzik.
15:55And it's actually been a pretty significant change here.
15:58And Josh is so right about this that who cares what Bryce Young was doing three years ago with freaking the version
16:05of DJ Chark that the Panthers had and Jonathan Mingo as the outside receivers when we're talking about Tedrow McMillan and Jalen
16:12Coker, two guys that if I was to sit down and rank wide receivers right now, both these just NFL, not fantasy.
16:18And probably honestly, probably even fantasy at this point.
16:21These two would be two top 24 receivers in the league.
16:24That's how high I am on these two guys.
16:27They're awesome. Waller, too. You saw this with the Falcons where they would essentially have McMillan and Coker aligned near each other
16:34and then Waller on the isolated like other side of the field.
16:37And those are just three big dudes for the defense to account for.
16:41And you've seen plays where then like Chuba Hubbard just leaks out.
16:45And it's a really good schematic situation that they have there.
16:48It's it has been good. It's it has been aggressive and leaning into some concepts that feel very much like Alabama Bryce Young.
16:55And a lot of the data points that I like to look at for an offense, you brought up the creativity, which
17:02I think is actually pretty in line. I think we probably have some similar data points here.
17:07I talk about my static score. They're 13th in static score, but they're fourth and paid score.
17:12So they're really creative. They're pushing the right buttons.
17:15Lots of play action. Use of motion. They're also they are pretty gun heavy.
17:19They get into the shotgun a lot because I think that's what Bryce Young likes to do.
17:25So, again, the offense is pretty well built around Bryce Young and these really talented big receivers that they have here.
17:31And when it comes to Waller in particular, just Darren Waller in particular, this isn't I'm not saying that he's going to
17:38go out there and have 20 targets like a like a Trey McBride.
17:42Oh, no. But back to back weeks, he has been involved in the red zone big time in the red zone.
17:48I mean, he could have three touchdowns this season had one not got called back in week one.
17:54I'm not telling people to go out there and blow fab on Waller.
17:58But again, you're banking on just TD upside for him.
18:01And if you're telling me, Matt, that he's got Ray, all he's getting is four to five targets a game.
18:07But two of those will come in the red zone.
18:10I'd be like, you know what? Like if I have to roll one out there, if I'm hurting at the tight end
18:16position, you can do worse than that. You are absolutely chasing touchdowns.
18:20You have to know that you're chasing touchdowns. That's just part of it.
18:24Now, he had two touchdowns in week. He had two touchdowns in week two.
18:28He had a touchdown in week one called back.
18:31So I think that's something to just remember, too, that we've seen him have, you know, I think he had a touchdown
18:38called back or it was like a miss or something like that.
18:41Yeah, it was a touchdown called back. Yep. Yep.
18:44Yeah. So, again, it's like we've seen the proof of concept here.
18:48If you're playing Darren Waller, you're purely chasing touchdowns.
18:51But I don't know. You want to chase touchdowns with Darren Waller?
18:54Do you want to play Colson Loveland? I don't know.
18:57Let me ask you this, Harmon, real quick, and we could wrap on Bryce here.
19:02Cleveland, I believe it's the Detroit Lions, the next two.
19:05Yes. And I think Philadelphia after that. A bye.
19:08Yeah. They have a bye in week. They have a bye in week five.
19:12Okay. Looking at the state of the quarterback position, is Bryce play to be a startable quarterback 10, 12 team leagues?
19:18I think the answer is firmly yes. I have him right now.
19:22My early rankings is QB 14, you know, in the same zone as Kyler Murray, same zone as Justin Herbert.
19:28I would rather play Bryce Young than Drake May against the Jacksonville Jaguars in Jacksonville in week three.
19:33That's where we're at. Again, can't stress this enough.
19:36And we told the story here with both of our data points.
19:40This is an offense that's built around Bryce and what he likes to do and what he's good at.
19:46And they've got talented players. I think we keep riding this thing until maybe, yeah, that Eagles matchup in week six.
19:52But for the next two weeks, Browns, certainly the Lions.
19:55Yeah, sign me up for the carnival ride with the Detroit Lions in week four.
20:00I'm already ready for that one. Okay. My first data point heading into week three is actually about those aforementioned Philadelphia Eagles.
20:06Are the Eagles kind of going to suddenly become a pass first team and a three wide receiver based offense?
20:12I mean, by the way, the producers are killing it with the titles here.
20:17Yours, yours last one was I want to be forever young.
20:20This one is three little birds set on my wide receiver window.
20:24Yeah, we got three little birds sitting on the wide receiver window from the Philadelphia Eagles.
20:29So the Eagles ran 11 personnel on 76% of their overall plays through the first two weeks of the season.
20:35That trails only the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on passing plays.
20:38It's almost 90%. The Eagles were also first and no huddle rate in week two.
20:42I think we expected this offense to be run heavy, multiple tight ends, the whole deal.
20:47Guess what, folks? They can't be that because their offensive line, especially on the interior, is a mess right now.
20:53And they've got two tight ends on injured reserve.
20:56This is a wide receiver based offense right now.
20:59And they pretty much play three wide. Like they play three main guys.
21:03Devontae Smith has been on the field for 96% of the routes.
21:06Makai Lemon, 81%. Dontavian Wicks, 79%. Now, Wicks had a little bit of an injury, I think, in last week's game.
21:13So I think that's why the route percentage is down for him.
21:16But in two receiver sets, when they go to two receiver sets, it is just Wicks and Smith.
21:22They're the only ones that have run a route.
21:25Lemon has run zero routes. Lemon has played zero snaps in two receiver set.
21:29Meanwhile, Darius Cooper, who was lauded recently as their best blocking receiver, he has seven snaps in two receiver sets and has
21:35actually eaten into some slot work in 11 personnel.
21:38Only 23% of the routes, but he's been a 49% slot player.
21:42So Lemon right now is a bench hold to me.
21:45He's a back half of the season player. You can't use him right now.
21:49He's just not getting enough opportunities. Only target on 8% of his routes as he's ramping back up from an offseason of just a bunch of hamstring injuries.
21:58But, I mean, against the Bears this week, Devontae Smith is going to be close to my top five wide receiver rankings.
22:04And Dontavian Wicks, 2.49 yards per route through two weeks.
22:07He's been efficient. He's been effective as a big play option.
22:11He's definitely going to be in flex consideration as well.
22:14And I kind of wonder, Ray, if this is what the offense looks like the rest of the season with these three receivers.
22:21Well, you asked that question at the beginning. Is this going to turn into like a pass-first Eagles offense?
22:27I just quickly looked up some stuff right now about the rushing attack of Philadelphia.
22:31So, 48% of their carries so far this season have gone for two yards or less with only a single run of 10-plus yards.
22:38Like, they can't run the ball. They cannot run the football effectively right now.
22:43The offensive line is struggling up front to create lanes for Barkley, for whomever's back there.
22:48Even Jalen Hurts. No rushing touchdowns so far through this season for Jalen Hurts.
22:52And we'll talk about that a little bit later.
22:55And, yeah, you and I talked about this. It might have been the final show or at least one of the final
23:01shows of the summer where we were like, is Don Tavey and Wicks, could he really be a thing, Harmon?
23:07And you and I were both like, yeah, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in.
23:12Which made kind of the lemon involvement inside of this offense questionable, knowing that they don't even use three receivers to that degree.
23:19They're going to continue to do what they've been doing because that works, right?
23:23That final drive versus Tennessee where Hurts had to get the ball out.
23:27Finding Devontae Smith, I think you're spot on with him being close to a top five receiver on the week.
23:33They can't run. They're going to have to lean on the pass.
23:37And I saw one of those next-gen charts two weeks into the season under Mannion versus last year.
23:42And there's a lot of over the middle of the field stuff as well that Jalen Hurts and Philadelphia are deploying.
23:49So I would say, yeah, the answer to that is probably yes.
23:52Yeah, they've changed up the route concepts, which is welcomed for these receivers who are good at operating over the middle.
23:59And I think Hurts actually played really well in week two.
24:02But they've kicked, as I mentioned, kicked up the pace.
24:05Like no huddle percentage is up. Their plays per game are up.
24:09But in terms of all the other things that you'd think like, oh, a Sean Mannion, more of a Green Bay Ram style offense.
24:16Nope. 29th in motion, 28th under center, 31st play action, but second in the three receiver stuff.
24:21So I think it's going to be a spread offense with better route concepts.
24:25And I think that leans in pretty well to what these three receivers do.
24:30So the takeaway here is Devontae Smith, wide receiver one, but Kyle Lemon, hold on to it.
24:35Like just, I think his time is coming. I actually think the film's been okay on him.
24:40But again, not a first half season. And then Wicks is a guy you continue to play until the route percentage shows otherwise.
24:47And it's not showing that right now. Okay, Ray, what is your second data point heading into week three?
24:53Second data point, Matt Harmon. I've heard. I've heard.
24:55Happy wife, happy life. That's what I've heard. And Travis Kelsey got married over the summer.
25:00His wife is in the press box showing off that ring.
25:04And he is playing some doggone good football right now.
25:07Through two games, 16 targets, 12 catches, 172 yards and one touchdown.
25:10Almost identical to his 2022 start. 16 targets, 13 catches, 172 yards and one touchdown.
25:15He finished that season. Matt Harmon and all you beautiful people watching this show.
25:19With 110 catches, 1338 on the receiving yard total and 12 touchdowns.
25:23Now, I'm not reversing the hands of time that far, but as you're looking around this Kansas City Chiefs offense, right?
25:29This is why you have to. And I was a Rice guy all offseason.
25:34You've got to go deeper beyond the box score.
25:36You see those 83 yards and you're thinking, oh man, Rasheed kind of got it going.
25:41And you're like, well, like 40 of them came on the last play of regulation when they were just kind of playing prevent defense.
25:48But Travis Kelsey has been a huge part of Kansas City's success early this season.
25:53And I'm questioning to everybody, like, are we getting maybe like a little vintage Schwanz song, Travis Kelsey in quotes, light type season?
26:00He seems to be the engine outside of Kenneth Walker in this offense.
26:04Like there's targets are there. Opportunity is there. He looks spry.
26:07He looks good. The offense is flowing through him.
26:10The usage backs it up as well. 20, almost 26% target share in week two, 2.4 yards per route run, 66 after the catch.
26:17He had the seventh highest usage score in my Trinity model on the week with wide receivers combined.
26:23So I'm just, I'm asking you, you're watching this and I'm seeing Tyler Warren score touchdowns but not be utilized a bunch.
26:30You know, Tucker Craft hasn't really gotten it going.
26:32Right now, outside of McBride and Dalton Kincaid, how many tight ends would you want over Travis Kelsey in fantasy football?
26:39I mean, it's not many, man. I did my weekly tight end rankings and, you know, I think maybe you could say, yeah, yeah.
26:46Trey McBride, Dalton Kincaid, Tucker Craft, Sam Laporta, Tyler Warren, Travis Kelsey.
26:50You know, I mean, that's kind of where I've had it ranked right now.
26:54And that might be, honestly, that might be underselling.
26:57Oh my God, they're playing the Dolphins. Nevermind. I'm going to be, let me go ahead and make an edit on the fly here.
27:04I'm going to go ahead and bump Travis Kelsey up a couple spots here.
27:08That Dolphins defense is absolutely brutal. Yeah. A lot more high profile, I'm going to guess, than the Harmon or Garvin wedding.
27:15So he was looking good for that wedding. He got himself in wedding shape.
27:19Just continue the momentum into football season, baby. And he's looking good out there.
27:23He's, he's, it's not the explosiveness. It's the fluidity.
27:26And just, I think that's from being a little bit lighter this year.
27:30And, you know, he has been the lead target getter in terms of the pass catchers, especially in the short areas.
27:36I pointed this stat out on Twitter that targets of five or fewer air yards in 2026.
27:42So far, Kenneth Walker has 11. Travis Kelsey has eight.
27:45Xavier Worthy has six. Emmitt Johnson has four. Rasheed Rice has two.
27:48If you look back at the 2024 to 2025 seasons combined per game, Rice was at 5.8.
27:54Kelsey was at four. So they're pretty much like, okay, we're, we're throwing Travis Kelsey more of these like layup passes.
28:00He's become that guy, but he's also getting the explosive plays in the passing game as well.
28:05So yeah, look, I'll admit, I did not see this coming for Kelsey.
28:09He was a guy that was just like, ah, why, what's the point?
28:13You know what Kelsey is. It's you're getting on base at the tight end position.
28:18Maybe take Isaiah likely or somebody like that later.
28:20Just, just instead likely has been fine. But I discounted the get in wedding shape version of Travis Kelsey, but it's been a hit so far this season.
28:29You saw the tweet from Tice up there. I didn't, I didn't know Nate put that up about the miles per hour on his route speed.
28:37Like this is crazy right here. 2026, 11 and a half miles per hour average route speed.
28:42This would be according to this Nate Tice. Oh, next is next.
28:46You said, I was going to give Nate the credit for looking this one up, but that'd be the best since 2022,
28:52which is what we're talking about in this data dump, uh, in this data dump segment was, I started off with those 2022 stats.
29:00But yeah. And Matt, I'll just say this. Maybe we should have seen it coming a little bit more because you were
29:06very vocal about how you thought Rasheed Rice might take a step back based on some of the charting stuff that you saw.
29:13So it's actually coming to fruition, right? They are not hyper targeting Rasheed Rice in those short area stuff.
29:19It's going back to Kelsey, man. So as, as you move forward, like this is a real starting tight end and fantasy
29:26football with, I'll just say some, some, some good upside, especially as Patrick Mahomes gets more, you know, integrated back in the offense.
29:33Like everything just looks a little different in Kansas city right now.
29:36Good for Kelsey. Yeah, no question. And obviously good for Kenneth Walker too, who, as I mentioned, is the guy that really
29:43is the change force for Rasheed Rice. Like Walker getting 11 targets of five or fewer air yards.
29:49That's what's really dug into it for Rice, who again, want to give Rice.
29:53I mean, I don't want to give him grace for, you know, back he was in jail, but I mean, the guy,
30:00the guy was in jail rehabbing an E injury.
30:02Like maybe he's going to be better in the back half of the season, but right now, like they got no reason.
30:09They had a lot of reason to change things up from the PPR scam.
30:13Rasheed Rice offense of 2025. No reason to change things up right now.
30:17Cause that chief's offense, like my homes is back.
30:20Like my homes is back. The chiefs are back.
30:23There's so much more enjoyable to watch right now than they have been over the previous two seasons.
30:28And a big part of that is because wedding shape, Kelsey, like let's, let's get it.
30:33That's, that's the thing. That's where we're at right now.
30:36Okay. That same game. Actually, for me, I'll go to Josh Downs, a second data point for me this week.
30:42And we'll keep this real simple. The role change has 100% happened for Josh Downs.
30:47He leads the Colts wide receiver room with a significant gap in both his snap share, 86%, and his route participation, which is 93%.
30:54He has never cleared a 69% snap share or 76% route share in any prior season.
30:59He's run around on 71% of the dropbacks with two or fewer wide receivers on the field.
31:04He previously averaged an 8% route share in his first three seasons.
31:08He's a 60-40 slot wide player. I think that's totally perfect for him.
31:12Ray, the role changes happened for Josh Downs. Josh Downs looks fantastic out there.
31:16I still have my, I have my questions about the Colts, you know, just the efficiency of the offense with Alec Pierce,
31:23not in the mix, but they signed sacrificial X receiver Darius Slayton.
31:26And I don't think that's going to change Josh Downs' role.
31:30Like, Downs, to me, is an every week fantasy starter in a Colts offense that I think right now is going to
31:36have to get that football out quickly. And, I mean, look at that.
31:40Josh Downs leads the NFL in separation score according to fantasy points data.
31:44Yeah, he's been one of the best reception perception performers ever since he landed in the NFL.
31:49So, no shock to me that he finds himself on that list.
31:53Yeah, Josh Downs, I was thinking about you when I was watching the game because there were a couple of times where
32:00the Colts went to 12 personnel with two wide receivers on the field and Josh Downs was out there.
32:06He was out there running routes in 12. And he had a top 10 usage score in my Trinity model this year,
32:12which shows that they are really prioritizing him. I thought that Tyler Warren would be a little more involved in some of that short area stuff.
32:20And so far, he hasn't really been as involved as I thought.
32:24Downs is very much a big part of this offense.
32:27And you have in our show notes, it's real.
32:30I agree. As long as he can stay on the field.
32:33I mean, he is a every week I'm playing.
32:36I have no doubt about it. That's right. As long as he can stay on the field.
32:41He had three targets on these outbreakers, which were about 10 plus yards down the field.
32:46That's good to see. Those are the type of targets he needs to continue to get because they do have to find ways to get explosive plays.
32:54Besides just like leaking him out of the backfield, which they did a couple times off motion or quick slants.
33:00I mean, I don't want to see a quick slant to Keenan Allen against inside leverage press coverage ever again.
33:06That's not looking so great right now. I want to see that a lot more to Josh Downs.
33:12And I would like to see more to Tyler Warren.
33:15We'll see. I mean, Warren has a touchdown on Sunday night, but the usage has been so like short area based.
33:21I'm not panicked about Tyler Warren, but I would like to see a more expansive route tree for him.
33:27I like get him up the seam a little bit.
33:30Get him on some more explosive stuff because right now, like I said, it's it's sacrificial X receiver Darius Slayton doing a
33:37poor man's Alec Pierce impression, you know, right off the street.
33:40And then it's downs on these explosive out cuts.
33:43That's great. But otherwise, man, like, yeah, we're going to need more.
33:46We're going to need more for for, you know, the explosive stuff, which I don't know that's going to come from Laquan Treadwell.
33:53Shout out to Laquan Treadwell, by the way, just being in the NFL.
33:57That's cool. And not fumbling that football. That would have been a disaster.
34:01But I mean, again, explosive play wise, it's going to have to be downs.
34:06I think they're going to have to get more from Tyler Warren as well.
34:10But we'll see about that. Either way, Ray, I love that we're in lockstep on Josh Downs.
34:15Yes, we are. One of our first one of our first shows we did together when we got you here in Yahoo
34:22was was was the Josh Downs love fest. So it's finally coming.
34:25We are Downs brosy. We are down with downs here on this show.
34:29You and I. We absolutely are. OK, we're going to take a quick break.
34:34We come back. We're running through more stats. You need to know.
34:37We'll get into that right after this. All right.
34:40We're back. We're continuing to talk through stats. You need to know heading into week three.
34:45Ray, what is your third data point? You've got for the people.
34:48Yeah, I feel obligated that we have to talk some rookies on the show.
34:53So let's go to our favorite position and talk rookie wide receivers.
34:56And my question to you and all the people out there, is there a wide receiver from this 2026 class that you would rather have over Cleveland Browns?
35:05Second round pick Denzel Boston. Is this the rookie wide receiver to to have here in fantasy football right now through two
35:12games, seven catches, 154 yards, two touchdowns, 17 points per game?
35:15It's only been two games, small sample size. We get it.
35:18But looking more deeper into the playing time and the allocation of snaps, Boston's has a 93% snap share, 85% route participation
35:25share versus a 67% snap share for Casey Concepcion and a 66% route participation share for KCC as well.
35:31Both have 11 targets. Boston leads in the receiving yard.
35:34Casey leads in the receptions, which was a little for me, Matt.
35:37I don't know how you felt about this offense.
35:40And we kind of know how we kind of felt about the team, but as far as the deployment of these two
35:47players, it always felt like they were going to try to do some cute stuff with Casey.
35:52They want to give him a, they want to give him a handoff, get him these quick screens and let him do
35:59his athletic stuff where Boston is just running down.
36:01Like he's doing exactly what he did at the university of Washington.
36:05He's getting down the field, post routes, go routes.
36:08He should have had two touchdowns in this game.
36:11If he would have held onto one and you know, week two, you're talking about 23% target share, 56% air yard share.
36:17This is, this is encouraging. And I don't want to get out over my skis here.
36:22Cause we're still talking about a Cleveland Browns led offense by the Sean Watson.
36:26Yeah. But for what you paid, if he were on waivers, he's down there.
36:31Maybe it's another game that you have to see, but he's been by far the best rookie receiver in this class.
36:37And that's not saying a bunch cause none of them are doing much of anything, but what are your thoughts on Boston and in the play?
36:45And more importantly, the deployment and how they're using them, because it doesn't feel like they have anybody else on the team that can.
36:52That's at least been deployed in a way to do the type of stuff that he's doing.
36:57They're not sending Casey down the field to that degree.
37:01They're not doing Jerry Judy's not involved. Harold Fannin's role is a little bit different and they cannot run the football, Matt.
37:07So what are your thoughts on, on Boston and this role, the usage?
37:11Do you think this is real? Yeah. I mean, I certainly think this is a real for Denzel Boston.
37:17I was a Denzel Boston fan. Almost, almost like he looks like maybe like Bud Light, Mike Evans.
37:22I wonder if anybody said that diet Coke, Mike Evans.
37:25I wonder if anyone said that over the course of the offseason.
37:29Somebody, somebody, somebody. I don't know. I don't know.
37:32I don't know. We'll see. But yeah, he's run around on 96% of the dropbacks, which leads all rookies by a good bit.
37:39Carnell Tate is second. You wouldn't know it, but he's second by 89%.
37:43Then Caleb Douglas at 85%. Mekhi Lemon, 81%. Nobody else.
37:46Bryce Lance, 75%. Talk about sacrificial. 6.6% targets per route.
37:4975% route participation there. Yeah. And it's obviously Casey Concepcion's got the 11 targets, the 10 catches, the short area stuff.
37:55That's what we've seen from him so far. Man, Jerry Judy, 74% of the routes, 0.53 yards per route run.
38:01I mean, he's let's, let's just trade Jerry Judy and see what happens.
38:05You know, Isaiah Bond had a catch. Like, I mean, I'd like to see just more of the young guys, Jerry Judy.
38:12I'm not just, just not sure like what the point is here.
38:16Cause Boston has been great and he's been doing it Ray as like a pure X receiver.
38:21I charted his week two for reception perception, 98% snaps on ball for Denzel Boston.
38:25I actually think there's even more to get from him.
38:28If you can move him around the formation and like, get him some slot looks, get him some free releases.
38:35But the fact he's been this good right away as just pretty much a pure X.
38:39I mean, I think the, this is a really great sign for, um, for, for Denzel Boston.
38:45Certainly right now he will be the highest ranked rookie at the current moment.
38:49Things can definitely change. I actually want to ask you though.
38:52I mean, dynasty perspective, I have him as one, two, three, four, five, my fifth ranked rookie in dynasty right now.
38:59I still have behind Tate Casey, Jordan Tyson on IR, Makai Lemon.
39:02Then it's Boston. I could hear an argument that he's better than some of those guys ahead of him.
39:08Um, you know, I mean, he's just been really impressive so far.
39:12Yeah. I, I, I, I think I would have him ahead of a couple of those guys.
39:17I'll just say this. I know this segment is not on Jordan Tyson, but if he can come back with how they're
39:24using Devon Vele and Bryce Lance just could be a late season kind of league winning type, uh, wide receiver for the new Orleans saints.
39:31I want to take this a step further, Matt.
39:34And, and this does not at all impact how I feel about Casey Concepcion, because I think he, the Browns have a
39:41good core, but with him, Fannin and Boston have a good core.
39:44I think there's a chance. This is the Browns leading receiver this year.
39:48Like we're talking about, you know, a couple of weeks.
39:51Can he do it? We'll see. Rookie walls always happen.
39:54Rookie walls hit, but they're not using Judy. There are no other ancillary, uh, options here.
39:59And if I go back to when Deshaun Watson was good, which is, you know, you were getting ready for your wedding
40:06at this point in time, you know, five, six years ago.
40:09Uh, before that. Yeah. But before that, like the pandemic.
40:12Okay. Okay. So I'm trying to think, I don't have the data, but I Watson downfield.
40:17I mean, whether it was Will Fuller, Deandre Hopkins, like that's, he was, he was pretty successful at doing that.
40:23It was the best we've seen Watson play versus a pass funnel defense, albeit.
40:28But I think that there's a chance right here.
40:30And here's the thing with Boston. This isn't just a, what did he do last Sunday?
40:35The drum beat for him has been pretty consistent with what he does, what he was doing throughout training camp.
40:41It's translating to the football field. Now I'm just saying that there's a chance that this is your Browns leading receiver here in 2026.
40:49No, it's I I'm with you on this one.
40:51Uh, the, the drum beat has been there. He has, uh, 154 yards right now.
40:56Harold Fannin is in second place with 75. So, I mean, he's got more than double, uh, the second place player on
41:03the team right now in terms of receiving yards.
41:05So very likely to be the leading receiver on the team.
41:09Casey Concepcion has 71. I think that it just, to me, I want to be buying stock of these guys definitely from a dynasty standpoint.
41:16And yeah, I mean, look, Deshaun Watson played well in week two.
41:20I think the Tampa Buccaneers defense is not good, but, uh, Deshaun's been really good off play action so far this year.
41:27And the fact that Boston has been that guy for him certainly is going to be, uh, you know, a big part of that.
41:34Now, the one thing to watch this week playing the Carolina Panthers, Panthers obviously do have an imperfect defense.
41:40We'll put it at that based on what the bears did to them in week one.
41:45But the bears did a lot of that damage with like the short area slot stuff, not necessarily throwing into the teeth of the outside corners.
41:52Cause that's where the defense is the strongest with JC Horn and Mike Jackson.
41:57So I'm going to keep an eye on there.
41:59Uh, if you're playing, just if you're playing, uh, Boston this week, but again, I'd like them.
42:05I'd like to see them move Boston around more.
42:07I think there's even more to get out of him there.
42:11Okay. My third data point heading into week three, I want to talk about the Jaguars run game and whether Basial Tootin
42:17is kind of going a little overlooked right now.
42:20Can Tootin get Scootin? I mean, these guys are just crushing it this week.
42:24Jaguars rank third in yards after contact per rush on their running back runs and third in rushing success rate.
42:30They rank eighth in explosive rushing rate on running back runs yet.
42:34They only rank 29th in yards before contact per rush.
42:37So actually not getting a ton of push there, but Tootin is making things happen from an after contact perspective.
42:43He has a 60% share of the running back touches, which is 18th at the position feels about right based on where
42:50he kind of stands from a fantasy standpoint, but 40% of the touches inside the five, a hundred percent inside the two.
42:57Like he's been the goal line back ahead of Chris Rodriguez.
43:00He only has three targets on the season that does lead to backfield, but it is only three targets.
43:06Ray, I mean, again, I don't know that like he's running back one or has that kind of ceiling with his lack
43:12of past game usage, but I look at the right back landscape, but I'm feeling pretty comfortable having Basial Tootin as a running back two right now.
43:21Yeah. You said, is he going kind of like overlooked or under the, I think so.
43:26Even still. And part of the reason why is Jacksonville for whatever reason is still using what I call, they're just gnats, right?
43:33Um, Amir Abdullah getting three touches, LaQuint Allen being on the field for passing down work, Chris Rodriguez.
43:38But I think, and I've got no, we'll see how it plays out.
43:42I think that will work itself out as we get through the season, right?
43:46The fact that Tootin is still the main guy, he's been very successful so far.
43:51Denver was a tough task for him and he was still, you know, the numbers are still what they are right now.
43:5813 carries, 65 yards. You want to see a little more in the receiving game.
44:02No one's, it felt like we went from really high on Tootin at the beginning of the off season to it cooled
44:09off a little bit when people were worried about Rodriguez.
44:12And now that we're in season, he still seems to be a little bit, I don't want to say overlooked, but because
44:19he hasn't had a 20 touch week, he hasn't had a monster performance, he's still obtainable.
44:23So I like him more now than I thought I would earlier in the off season.
44:28And this Jags team, despite them, you know, Trevor Lawrence having a down game versus Denver on the road.
44:34I think you're very much on the, on the, on the spot on here with, with Basil Tootin.
44:40And I think it gets better as we move throughout the season as well.
44:44That's my guess as well as like, this is still a young player has a chance to really consolidate and kind of
44:51eschew some of those gnats that you're kind of talking about there.
44:54Schedule is a little tricky before their week seven by, they're going to go to Europe for two games and then they'll
45:01go on by, but goes Patriots this week, Bengals in week four.
45:05I know it's like, Oh, Bengals, but man, Dexter Lawrence looks fantastic.
45:08Like their run defense, I think is going to be significantly improved so far this season.
45:13Then the Eagles, then the Texans, then again, that week seven by, they come back with some matchups in the next set
45:20of games, one against the Colts, two games against the Titans.
45:23So maybe like Tootin is a guy that is a running back two for now.
45:28And then really ascends in that back half of the year.
45:31I can certainly tell myself that story. Would love to see the offensive line play a little bit better, but Tootin has been playing pretty well here.
45:39And it's probably somebody that's like a decent trade candidate.
45:42If you want, like you're doing a package type deal, have them as a running back too.
45:47If you're at that position, Ray agreed, agreed. And like you said, once we stop using four running backs, I think, I
45:54just think that that will work itself out, that we're not in week eight, nine in a mirror doula is, is getting
46:01extra like those, those three, four touches. They matter in the grand scheme of the offense.
46:06So hopefully that works itself out as we progress further down the season.
46:10All right, let's get into your fourth data point here.
46:13We're going to the quarterback position on this one.
46:15Yeah. Let's, let's talk QBs in general. You know, we've got to kind of have these overall philosophical conversations.
46:21And right now through two weeks of this fantasy football season, quarterback rushing is down.
46:26Matt QB rushing is down right now about 15% of the rushing yard, uh, rushing yard total is down.
46:32We were about at 1400 rushing yards from the quarterbacks at this point in time last year.
46:37And we're right around 1200 yards. Carries are down rushing touchdowns are down 15%, 10%, 17%.
46:42So when you're talking about fewer attempts, slightly worse efficiency yards per carry is down where the quarterback position, we spent a
46:48lot of time in the off season talking about this onesie group of QBs and how impactful a rush is versus a pass.
46:55Especially when you're talking about some of those, the Bo Nix is the Malik Willis is of, of the group.
47:01But if QB rushing is down and they're not scoring those points, it makes those pocket passers and the ones who are
47:08going to stand in the pocket and give you three touchdowns a little more valuable.
47:13When you look at the top five quarterbacks right now in the NFL and rushing yards through week two, number one, Kayla Williams.
47:20We've lost him for a little bit of time.
47:22Number two, Jayden Daniels. We've lost him for some time.
47:25Then you've got Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and Drake May with 64 yards.
47:29Neither Allen, Lamar or May are over 100 rushing yards.
47:32So as I'm sitting back right now and I'm looking around at the Staffords, the Brock Purdy's versus, uh, you know, a
47:39Dak Prescott, these guys who aren't going to run, but they're just going to stand in the pocket and give you two to three touchdowns per week.
47:47Like, I don't know. I don't know where we're at with this Konami code quarterback.
47:52Shout out rich rebar. If, if, if QB rushing is just, is down, I don't know if that's a byproduct of injury
47:59or what, but quarterback rushing is down and a little bit interesting to see this data, Matt.
48:04I think so much of it is like just the design runs are not effective right now against modern defenses and so
48:10much at least watching it on tape. That's what it feels like to me.
48:15And, you know, so much of, um, do you like, like, I feel like when I'm watching teams right now, the teams
48:21are using a lot of like eye candy with motion, uh, less, I mean, obviously still in the past game, of course,
48:28but especially in the run game, like playing linebacker in the NFL right now is absolutely a hell.
48:34Um, and yeah, Hayden Winks has the data here to show that like, yeah, QB runs down so far as well.
48:40It's some of the stuff you're bringing up here too.
48:43To me, it just feels like teams have the beat on any of the option stuff.
48:48Some of the design runs other than, you know, sneaks and the tush push or whatever, but yeah.
48:53And maybe it's also injury stuff too. I mean, everybody, everybody knows like if you're a coach and your quarterback gets hurt
49:00on a design run, you're just going to get lit up.
49:03Right. And so many of these quarterbacks now, it, we've got so many quarterback injuries across the league, you know, it's just,
49:10maybe there's, maybe there's something to that as well.
49:13So yeah, man. Um, I think you're like the best, what's, what's kind of one, what's your theory on this?
49:19And two, what's the like takeaway? Like, what do we do with this information?
49:23My biggest takeaway is I'm not as interested in streaming the Malik Willis for upside.
49:28Not right now. And I'm just, I'm just using Malik as the example because he's the one, one of the QBs where
49:34you're like, Hey, if he doesn't pass for a lot, as long as he runs around, we're good.
49:40But some of these pocket passers, like if you've got an environment where a quarterback for day, I can get two touchdowns
49:47out of Kirk cousins this week versus let me start, you know, Bo Nix, who's launching interceptions and also not running.
49:53Like it just, it's something that I'm monitoring in the tweet that Hayden put up.
49:58It's the lowest since 2012, those design Russian temps.
50:00I'm just looking on the bar graph. It's the lowest in over a decade for the, the, the designed and called QB runs.
50:07Yeah. We're at 26 right now here in 2026.
50:10That's the lowest since what we got 30 in 2017, 32 in 2014.
50:14I, I, maybe it is the fact that these offensive coordinators are saying Matt, them scrambling around or me calling these design runs.
50:21It's, it's just not worth me losing my quarterback for the season for half the year.
50:26It's, you know, I love Caleb and you don't change how he plays, but we were praising him for how fast he
50:33was running around and all the off script stuff.
50:35And you can never coach that out of a player.
50:38But as I'm moving forward, I'm just maybe these pocket passers who aren't the Konami code guys are a little undervalued here
50:45in fantasy football, the Staffords and the DAC, the purdys, et cetera.
50:49Well, and you look at just the teams that are awesome from an explosive rushing perspective, because that's, that's the thing.
50:55Like teams want explosive runs. They don't want to just get like, they want to keep a success rate.
51:01Sure. But the teams like the Rams, the bills, the, the bears, the Broncos Titans.
51:06That's, that's funny. Colts chiefs. Like again, if you're, if you're the chiefs, great example, what would you rather like?
51:12Like, yeah, we're going to take some explosive runs from Patrick Mahomes when he's scrambling.
51:16That's great. But your odds on getting an explosive play is much higher.
51:20If it's like Ken Walker under center, you know, run it right down at you to use a different example.
51:26I know they're not on that list of teams that I just ripped off there, but you know, if you're the Baltimore
51:33Ravens, what are you more likely to get you an explosive run?
51:37Like a design, you know, Lamar Jackson run that they're going to maybe see coming if it's in the gun, the whole deal, or, Oh, what?
51:44How about actually it's, it's Derek Henry just getting under center and ripping that thing right at you.
51:50So I think that's a big part of it too.
51:53Teams want explosive plays. And right now it feels like the under center run game being back.
51:58That's where teams are finding their explosive rushing plays.
52:01Not so much with the quarterback design game. So I agree with you.
52:05Like a Jared golf pocket passer, maybe like on someone's fantasy team in the Yahoo analyst league.
52:10We'll talk about that here in just a moment.
52:13You know, that can be the right answer for you here.
52:16Okay. I want to talk about two teams for my fourth data point that are doing the right things from a schematic
52:23standpoint, but not getting, not getting the right results.
52:26Okay. Top two teams in total routes with motion at the snap, according to fantasy points data are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
52:32with 144 and the Los Angeles chargers with 127.
52:35And yet Ray, those offenses have not been all that good to start this year.
52:40If looking at my just kind of combined offensive efficiency metrics, the bucks haven't been terrible.
52:44They're 18th. A lot of that is because they're sixth in rushing EPA and 30th in drop back EPA.
52:50So not really helping the past game. Meanwhile, the chargers are the 30th ranked offense in my efficiency metrics.
52:56Do you know who they're sandwiched between Ray Garvin, the LA chargers with all this talent and Mike McDaniel, they are sandwiched
53:03between the Cleveland Browns and the abomination of the Pittsburgh Steelers office.
53:06They're just a couple of spots ahead of the Cooper rush Atlanta Falcons.
53:10That's how bad it's gotten for the LA chargers and their wide receivers.
53:14Ibuka is wide receiver 34 in points per game, loud McConkie 20 in points per game.
53:19I really don't think anyone else is just right there ready to step up offensively.
53:24You know, I think like if it's going to happen, it's going to be one of these two guys.
53:29Are these by low wide receivers or are you staying away from them?
53:33Like, do we give these units some time to get it and figured out?
53:38Like, what are we, what do you think about Ibuka?
53:41What do you think about Lad McConkie so far?
53:43The usage for both of these two are still fine.
53:47It's, it's not quite where I want it to be.
53:50And I give Lad a little bit of grace because he's not a hundred percent right now.
53:55He's out there playing in a, a flak jacket, right?
53:58Trying to run around and do that stuff. And then Emekig Buka having to deal with whatever Zach Robinson is doing and whatever he's calling.
54:05But the common thread are these new offensive coordinators.
54:08So I think both of your questions can be true.
54:11I think we need to give both of them a little bit of time.
54:15I would be buying low on both wide receivers because they are their team's primary options.
54:20And when and if things get clicking, the offense will flow through these guys with Lad in particular, two tight ends on IR.
54:27QJ, I don't know what Mike McDaniel has done to Quentin Johnson.
54:31I thought he was on this, you know, mini Ascension ladder getting better and better.
54:36Now he's just back to the same QJ that we kind of thought he was early on.
54:41He's a non-factor inside the offense. We talked about it on Sunday night.
54:45Omari on Hampton is, Hampton is just run and smash forward juggernaut style.
54:49He's not making anybody miss. There's nothing creative to his rushing style.
54:52And then in the case of Tampa Bay, I mean, Baker's got to be better.
54:57Baker has to be better. They got into this thing where Ted Hurst was just getting peppered with targets, inaccurate ones.
55:03But it's just let's throw the ball to Ted Hurst time and time again.
55:08I do think that both of these guys have this, I don't want to say stink on them, Matt, but people in
55:14fantasy are just like, I want them to be so much better right now.
55:18And if these two aren't great right now, then I don't want them.
55:22They stink. I knew it. Buka wasn't good. Look at the second half.
55:26And I'm more on the line of you. I want to give them some time to try to figure this stuff out offensively.
55:33But these are the team's two primaries. It's not Kate Odden.
55:37It's not Ted Hurst. It's not QJ. It's not a Rondae Gadsden.
55:40So am I jamming both of them into a lineup because I have to when you only have to start a couple of wide receivers?
55:48Maybe not. Maybe you have some better options. But I don't think that the book and the story is closed for either of these two wide receivers.
55:56Not yet. No way. Yeah. Yeah. Great point about Ladd.
55:59Obviously with the flak jacket. Remember Emeka Buka is coming back from a toe injury that cost him some time in training
56:06camp to maybe still feel in the effects of that as well.
56:10I just thought the film has been pretty good on a Buka and he's playing in the role that I wanted him
56:16to play as the movement Z receiver. You're right.
56:19The Bakers just got to be better. The offense has to coalesce under a new play caller just as the same as in L.A.
56:26I would say with the Buka if you want to buy maybe don't do it this week because they're playing the Minnesota Vikings.
56:33Brian Flores. That makes me a little bit nervous.
56:36Then the schedule does lighten up for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
56:39They have the Packers, the Cowboys, the Steelers, the Panthers, the Falcons, and the Bears before their week 10 bye.
56:46They come back to play the Lions, the Panthers, and the Chargers on the other side of that bye.
56:51So I think maybe wait until week four to trade for Emeka Ibuka, maybe not before this Minnesota Vikings game.
56:57So Harmon, and quickly, I'm looking at the usage for both of these two teams.
57:02And I can tell you right now that the bigger issue, Lad and Emeka Ibuka are the only two over the league
57:09median regression line, the only two pass catchers on side of both of these offenses that are producing based on what you
57:15should be expected based on the usage. It's only those two guys.
57:19But the bigger thing that I see when I'm looking at this on Trinity is everybody else is below the line, which
57:26lets me know that both Justin Herbert and Baker Mayfield, the both of them are not playing good football right now.
57:32Right? Like full stop. If they play better, those two should be fine.
57:36If they don't, these two will be marginal. They won't kill you, but they're not going to live up to that expectation.
57:43Baker and Herbert have to be better. Yep. I think, I think it's a hundred percent right.
57:48And look, I know we get into this poison place with quarterback discourse.
57:52It's like, well, what they are now, that's all that matters.
57:55Well, we've seen Justin Herbert play good football before.
57:58We've actually seen Baker Mayfield play good football before.
58:01Maybe one of those good stretches is coming right around the corner.
58:04Okay. Let's get into your fifth and final data point here heading into week three.
58:09Yeah. You touched on this a while ago and I'm back to usage.
58:13I'm back to personnel. I'm back to offensive scheme.
58:16This under center thing, right? When you're looking at the teams who are going under center, not living in gun and doing some different things.
58:23And it will probably feed into your, your final data point.
58:27Look at the top teams in the NFL and where they currently rank as far as points per game, San Francisco, 60% under center.
58:34They're tied for fourth in points per game. So far this season, the Buffalo bills under center with Josh Allen first in score.
58:41And you've got Seattle up there at 17th, a little bit lower, but very creative type offense.
58:46And if you've watched Brian flurry, I continue to give him credit for how they're doing things inside that offense, where they're
58:53lining up their receivers in the backfield motion and Russell into the backfield as a fullback, but you go down the list,
58:59the Raiders right now tied for 10th in scoring in the NFL, the lions, the Rams, the bears.
59:05No, it was a down week last week. Patriots that some of this is factored in that week one kind of stinker
59:12versus Seattle, the Colts and the Vikings. I'm looking at all of these teams who have their quarterback under center and the success that they're having.
59:20And it makes me want to pay more attention to some of that stuff and maybe some of the ancillary pieces inside
59:26of these environments, because they're just creating more opportunities for their playmakers, for the running backs first and second, second running backs, right?
59:33RB one, RB two, your primary reads, your first read target share, and then your secondary wide receiver.
59:39So when I'm looking at the Niners and the bills and the Hawks and the Raiders and the lions, I, I want
59:45to buy into some of these offenses that are kind of taking it back to old school football, get under center.
59:52Let's keep defenses on us. Let's not allow them to just tee off on us down here, you know, in shotgun formation.
59:58Like, like we see a lot happening with Cincinnati when they're, they're in gun.
60:03You just, I know what you're going to do.
60:05Uh, you're either going to hand it off to this running back and he's going to go this way, or you're going to drop back the pass.
60:14And I'm sending the house at you really, really interested in this sort of, I don't know if it's a turning point
60:20in the NFL, but a lot of creative creativity coming from these play callers having their quarterbacks under center this year.
60:27Yeah, it really has. I mean, it, again, it comes back to that looking for the explosive plays in the run game.
60:34It's just easier to do that under center than it is out of the gun.
60:38And so you want to blend the run in the past game.
60:42So teams don't know what's coming. Like that's where we are right now with the NFL.
60:47And I do think a lot of these under center teams are some of the offenses that are good and really productive.
60:53I mean, some of them were obviously that you mentioned from your list here, like Patriots, we know they've just got a
61:00lot of crap going on right now. It is what it is.
61:04The Vikings, obviously they're dealing with a quarterback injury.
61:06Carson Wentz there, but I mean, yeah, some of these teams like Niners, Buffalo, Seattle, by the way, Seahawks are crazy.
61:13Jackson Smith and Jigba has a 44% target share.
61:16Rashid Chahit has an 18% and Cooper Cup has a 10% target share.
61:19It's just like, it's the JSN show and that's it.
61:23Keep it moving. Log out the whole deal. I mean, I don't know what else to say.
61:28Some of these other teams. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, but when you're looking at it and you're right with them, but when
61:34you're looking at Buffalo and the Raiders with Trey Tucker, I'm just, I'm thinking about the options inside of these offenses, right?
61:41Like, oh, Trey Tucker. Okay. Indianapolis. We talked about Josh Downs, Tyler Warren, if he can get things going, Jonathan Taylor.
61:47Like these are offenses where you kind of want multiple pieces of, I'm not saying everyone, but even Buffalo, for instance, right?
61:54You want some DJ Moore, Dalton Kincaid, James Cook, hell, maybe even Keon Coleman is viable depending on some injury stuff there.
62:01But these are pieces of offenses that you want to be invested in for fantasy football, by and large, outside of Seattle.
62:08Outside of Seattle, you just, you kind of want whoever's running the ball that week and Jackson Smith and Jigba.
62:14But you get the point with the rest of this list.
62:17I mean, the Niners, Matt Harmon, Kittle, great. Mike Evans, when he's on the field, solid.
62:22Debo's a contributor. Christian McCaffrey, Kalen Black. You want pieces of these offenses for sure.
62:26Absolutely. Even like for the Bills, Khalil Shakir has been used on some more downfield routes this year than usual.
62:33It's going to take the right matchup. And like, you know, you would think that the Lions would have been the right matchup.
62:40And he had a couple of explosive plays, but not a big fantasy day.
62:44So maybe there's something there. Yeah, the Raiders definitely like Trey Tucker.
62:47I know, you know, we put out the video with Scott.
62:51People like, oh, we've seen this before. We've seen this before.
62:54Yeah, I get it. But at the same time, he's being used more on the right routes this year, like these big
63:01post routes, big breaking routes down the football field.
63:04Like that's what this offense wants to do. And they want to do that from under center.
63:09So, yes, you know, you are big play chasing your big play hunting.
63:13But, you know, that's a big part of it, too.
63:16The Lions, you know, Jamison Williams. Like, I know Jamison Williams has not had a good game so far this season.
63:22He's not going to never have a good game again.
63:25So if you can stomach the fact that he's going to put duds in your lineup and he's going to make mistakes, he's like he's a volatile player.
63:34He is. I don't care how much the team gases him up in training camp or how much his biggest truth is gas him up in the offseason.
63:42The reality is, like, he's a volatile player and he's going to have a big game at some point because they get
63:49under center and they launch that thing. And Jamison Williams is a part of it.
63:53So, yeah, if you're looking for an ancillary piece, I mean, Devontae Adams, like he gets a promotion to the one receiver spot.
64:00And what do you know? Big explosive plays down the football field from the L.A.
64:05Rams. So, yeah, I mean, some of these teams, I mean, the Bears, like they're doing the right things from a conceptual standpoint.
64:12It just hasn't gone to the guys we want.
64:15Doesn't mean that, Ray, it's never going to go to those guys ever again.
64:19And just I want you to give people some words of encouragement to be patient, right?
64:24Like they are doing the right things. It's not like they're doing like, what are they doing?
64:29This offense looks a mess. Is this just part of football working itself out, Matt?
64:34Like is that kind of what's going on here?
64:36Because this happened with Terrence Ferguson week one. He was doing all the right things, but the production wasn't there.
64:42And then finally, once the volume flowed his way, it's like, oh, look at that.
64:47We got a top five wide receiver, a tight end on the week in Terrence Ferguson.
64:52Yeah, I will say that some of the stuff Ben Johnson did in week two was a little bit.
64:58All right, what are we doing here? You know, there's like a play early on where I think they had Roshan Johnson
65:04and DeAndre Swift as the two outside receivers. Like we don't need some of that.
65:09We don't need Khalif Raymond. Like we got to get the young guys to go.
65:14But at the same time, again, it's a long season.
65:17There's a lot of stuff we don't know. I think the Colson Loveland thing in week two was just like, hey, they
65:23decided he was going to be the one to block more, you know, and it just it didn't work out that that didn't go well for them.
65:32I think they maybe outsmarted themselves on that one.
65:34But I mean, with like Luther Burden and Roma Dunze, these guys are also coming back from camp injuries.
65:40Luther, like throughout camp, he had the groin injury.
65:43I don't think watching him through the first couple of weeks, he's played all that well in isolation.
65:48That doesn't mean I think he's never again. He's never going to play well again, but he needs to like play a
65:55little bit better to get those opportunities back. Rome is coming back from a camp injury at the end of it, like right before the season starts.
66:03He was a part time player in week one back to being a full time player.
66:08Like I think it's going to happen for all of these guys.
66:12Obviously, I don't know about the case kingdom against the Eagles week, but eventually like maybe a post week four by on these guys is the right move.
66:20I would just be shocked if we go throughout the course of the season and all three of these guys are just useless.
66:27I think there's no shot that that happens. Yeah, I don't buy it either.
66:31I don't buy that either. I don't buy it either.
66:35Our last two points here do dovetail well together, so I'll get into my fifth one.
66:39I wanted to throw out the top 10 play action passers so far in terms of adjusted yards per attempt, and you're
66:46not going to be surprised to see a lot of, oh, we'll do 11.
66:50A little special here for Daniel Jones. Would have been a neater.
66:54I don't know why I pasted the 11th one in there, so that's on me.
66:59But anyways, yeah, Daniel Jones is in the mix here too.
67:02There's going to be a lot of overlap between the teams we just talked about in my list because you want to
67:09get under center and you want to launch that ball off play action.
67:13These are the most effective, not volume, but effective play action passers so far in adjusted yards per attempt.
67:18Lamar Jackson, Kirk Cousins, Drew Locke. By the way, Drew Locke is the only quarterback to complete 100% of his play action
67:25attempts who's thrown more than five play action passes this year.
67:28I think it's 16 passes he has completed every single one of them.
67:32It really helps to have Jackson Smith and Jigua, and I think Drew Locke is just executing the offense really well.
67:39You're right. Give a shout out to Brian Flory on that one.
67:42Jordan Love, Bryce Young, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts. Again, not a lot of volume, but he's been effective when doing it.
67:49Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Bo Nix, Daniel Jones. Again, if you combine these two lists together, like the under center and the
67:55play action, this is where you can find some sleeper receivers.
67:59I mean, the two guys at the top of the list here, Lamar Jackson and Kirk Cousins.
68:04If you were brave enough, you played Rashad Bateman or Trey Tucker in week number two, because guess what?
68:10This team is getting under center. They're going on the play action stuff, and they're launching it downfield to two guys who run these vertical routes.
68:18And so that's how you can kind of find these like sleeper wide receivers right now.
68:23Well, you know what I think when I see this list?
68:26Here's what I think. Zay Flowers, Rashad Bateman. I think Trey Tucker when Brock Bowers is healthy.
68:31Jackson Smith and Jigba, no brainer. Christian Watson, Matthew Golden, Tedaroa McMillan, Jalen Coker, Dalton Kincaid, and all the other receivers in Buffalo.
68:38Devontae Smith, who we talked about earlier. CeeDee Lamb, Denzel Boston, Jalen Waddell, Josh Downs.
68:43Like I'm looking at this, and 60% of this list is on that under center turning stuff into points.
68:48It's like there's something here, right? And it's only two weeks in, so we're not trying to make wholesale, this is how
68:55it's going to be for the remainder of the season.
68:58And every receiver we talked about today is going to smash week in and week out because they're running play action or they're under center.
69:06But these things matter. It makes it less predictable for the defense when you've got a threat to run the ball.
69:12When you do execute play action, it opens up those downfield shots, and it creates those sleeper receiver opportunities for the Trey Tucker to have the big week.
69:21For Rashad Bateman to insert into that number one wide receiver role.
69:24The NFL changes, right? Like it's always an ever-evolving game.
69:27And sometimes you just go back to doing some of the most basic stuff from the beginning of football time, which is
69:34hike the ball, get the ball, fake it to the running back, and you open up stuff down the field.
69:40This is, I'm encouraged by some of the narrative-driven receivers that I talk about by this list combined with some of the
69:47other stuff that we've talked about on the show today.
69:50And I think a lot of other people should kind of take these things as other data points when you're making a
69:57decision, when you're thinking about going after a player on waivers or starting somebody.
70:01Like who's doing some of the more creative stuff in the NFL to create those explosive plays?
70:06You know, the funny thing is too, like some of these teams that we're talking about that are under center and play
70:13action, they actually can't even run the ball. Like some of these teams, yeah.
70:17I mean, the Ravens first in rushing success rate on running back runs.
70:21Obviously, like the Lions we talked about previously, the Chiefs and, you know, the Rams are up there.
70:26The Bills are up there. They're sixth in rushing success rate.
70:30Somebody seems like the Packers, Jordan Love is crushing it on play action.
70:34They're 19th in rushing success rate. Their run game stinks.
70:37The Browns are 32nd. Their run game stinks. Like you actually don't, the stats have always borne this out that you don't
70:44actually have to have a great run. Like it certainly helps, but having a great run game is not, you don't, it's
70:50not like you, it's not usually exclusive to then being a really good play action team, but the Packers are a great example of this.
70:58Like they're actually can't even use play action at the rate that they normally would.
71:02Their rate of play action is down this year because their run game stinks.
71:07And because they're in these like really crazy game scripts, like they've been the first two weeks against the Vikings, against the
71:13Jets, but it's still benefiting Jordan Love. It is still benefiting Matthew Golden and Christian Watson.
71:18Pretty crazy too. If you look at the targets per route run, like some of these teams we talked about, JSN target on 44% of his routes.
71:26Rashid Shahid is 21%. Amon Ross St. Brown is like 33%.
71:30James Williams, 16%. Chris Olave, 25%. Devon Vele, 17%.
71:33There's a healthy gap between one and two, much less you go down to three.
71:37Jacoby Myers, 6%. Parker Washington, 39% targets per route.
71:40Huge disparity. If we're talking about the one to the three, then there's a team like Green Bay where Watson is 27.9%.
71:47Matthew Golden's 26%. Jane Reed, obviously injury caveat here.
71:4926% targets per route. Like it's actually pretty tight concentration there, but now you remove Reed.
71:54You remove Reed, unfortunately, because of the injury, Watson and Golden, man, they're going to just, they're just going to be a,
72:01it might be a little volatile, might be a rocky ride, but it's going to be a big like play ride here in the Packers offense.
72:09You nailed it. I'm looking at these quarterbacks and there's a lot of concentration here.
72:13Philadelphia, it's going to Smitty or, or Don Tavion Wicks.
72:16Green Bay right now. I love Tucker Kraft, but it's two primary passing options inside of that offense.
72:22You just, you start looking at those quarterbacks and you can nail down concentration to make you at least make you feel
72:29a little bit better about some decisions that you have to make on Sunday.
72:33Yeah. Right. It makes you feel a little bit better knowing.
72:36Okay. I know Bryce Young with McMillan and Cochran, they're commanding over 50% of the opportunity inside of this offense.
72:42Like if I got to pick one, it's one of those two guys.
72:46I'm not playing around with anybody else. And I know if I'm debating on an offense, it's kind of spreading it around versus more concentration.
72:54With this combined with under center, combined with static score, creativity, RP, Trinity, all of these things, you put them all together
73:00and you should have a clearer picture as clear as you can going into Sunday to make some decisions for your lineups.
73:07And that's what this is about is it's not just giving you the stats from the past week, but looking beyond that, right?
73:14Like what is happening inside these offenses to create those scoring opportunities for us in fantasy?
73:19Yeah. Yeah. And we had a full picture story there.
73:22Look at that. Tedder O'McMillan, Jalen Coker, Bryce Young, fifth best play action passer goes all the way back to the beginning stat that you had here.
73:30I mean, like, yeah, this was really a offensive creativity show.
73:34The ones that are doing it right. Guess what?
73:36Those are the ones that are printing fantasy points.
73:39So we're going to continue to chase that. And we'll actually talk about that on tomorrow's show with Nate Tice as well.
73:46So it's going to be a big ecosystem week here on the channel.
73:50We'd love to see that. Okay. For now, we're going to take a quick break.
73:54When we come back, it's the moment you've all been waiting for.
73:58It's time for a little update on the Yahoo fantasy league.
74:01We'll get into that right after this. All right.
74:04We're back. Welcome to the Yahoo fantasy league recap show, man.
74:07We got a big, big week to talk about because let's be honest.
74:11I'm two and oh, I'm two and oh in second place, scoring a bunch of points.
74:16That's right. Yeah. YouTube comments who hated my team.
74:19You were wrong so far, so far. Let me just be clear.
74:23So far you were wrong. Well, I got a little bit lucky on the Aaron Jones injury, but let's get into that.
74:29Let's start with me because it's all about me.
74:32I'm hosting the show here. Let's talk about it.
74:35I went to an oh this week with a tight victory over Dan Titus, who falls to oh and two.
74:41Oh, what a shame. He got a bounce back from his guy, Jamar Chase.
74:45It was not enough. Who's writing this? Who's writing this?
74:48Captions is still nothing super impressive with Harmon's fantasy team.
74:51There you go. Read the script. I'm pretty impressed.
74:54I'm not reading the script. I find I'm skipping the first sentence.
74:58I'm starting. He finds himself a two and oh with great showings.
75:01He's fantastic showings from James Cook, Jalen Waddell and Derek Henry.
75:05Also, yeah. Is there a pump and dump scheme in Indianapolis with Josh Downs and Tyler Warren?
75:10You're damn right it is. But I'm taking advantage of it.
75:13The only question I've got here is Justin Herbert, who scored fewer than 10 fantasy points.
75:18Not feeling great about the Justin Herbert situation. We are looking deeply into the Justin Herbert situation here, but I'm thinking I'm
75:25going to be making some moves on the bench this week and we're going to figure it out from there.
75:31I will say Dan Titus, Dak, Chase, Devante Smith, Travis Kelsey.
75:34Yeah. No, it's still not enough when you're going against a juggernaut team like mine.
75:39Also, he had DJ Moore get hurt with a negative point there.
75:42That also hurt Dan. I just want to know you playing Wix this week.
75:47You going to throw Wix in this week? I'm not going to reveal any of that to you right now.
75:53Okay. You are a competitor in this league and I'm not going to be talking about what I will or will not be doing with the squad.
76:01Okay. We're going to meet privately. Me and my team, me and my associates will be meeting me, Charlie, Peach.
76:07We're all going to get together. We're going to talk about whether we're playing Don Tavian Wix or not.
76:13I will say Aaron Jones looked pretty good. Okay.
76:16So that might be have to go back in the flex once again.
76:20How do you feel about Herbert? How do you feel about Herbert, Harmon?
76:24Well, I'm not feeling great, Ray Garvin. I'm not feeling great about Justin Herbert.
76:28That is clearly the weak link on the team.
76:31But, you know, maybe I'll pick up Bryce Young after all your great flowery discussion about how awesome Bryce Young is.
76:37Maybe I'll pick him up. But I won't be revealing anything I will or may not be doing on this program.
76:43Yeah. Keep pounding. Maybe with Bryce Young. We'll see.
76:46What we do know, Ray, is that you got off the map.
76:50You got to one and one. Again, you took it to Eric Edholm.
76:54Eric Edholm, 85.6 points. We got to do something about that.
76:57And that was with Patrick Mahomes and Trey McBride.
77:00He got great stuff from the onesie positions. Not a lot anywhere else across Eric Edholm's lineup.
77:05Meanwhile, you got off to a great start. And we get to be feeling pretty good on Thursday night when Jared Goff
77:12garbage time special plus Dalton Kincaid really took off for your team.
77:15You also have B. John Robinson. You know, maybe B.
77:18John back to B. John with Michael Penix coming back.
77:21Where are we feeling good? Where are we feeling not so good about your team right now, Ray?
77:27Yeah. You know, I feel good with Dalton Kincaid because I was slandered on this show and through the YouTube comments for starting Jake Ferguson.
77:34And what did he do? What? This is what I knew this was capable.
77:39I knew this was in the cards here. 18 points on my bench.
77:43I might be flexing two tight ends come week three.
77:46I'm not feeling good about JMO, right? Just I don't want to embrace the volatility right now.
77:51So maybe Trey Tucker, who we pumped up on the show, Jackson Dart will be going to IR or the waiver wire.
77:58But Parker Washington, Travis Achan, let me tell you something.
78:01I'm doing this without Travis Achan really getting it going.
78:04I'm doing this without, you know, a strong showing from my wide receiver.
78:08We're held one or two right now with Pickens and JMO.
78:11I feel good about my squad. I feel good with where I'm at.
78:15We'll be okay. We'll be okay. Well, you're welcome for telling you on the show that you should have played Dalton Kincaid over Jake Ferguson.
78:23Okay. You're welcome. Cause now Dalton Kincaid is in your lineup doing some pretty good things.
78:27So yeah, again, I'll, I'll take the credit for that one.
78:31Okay. Keep moving on here. Josh gets his first win.
78:34He's no longer just a tie machine here taking down Chris Allen comfortably.
78:38Chris Allen was riding so high after week one.
78:40What happened? 71 points from Chris Allen. Absolute done after having that big, massive week one.
78:45I mean, I, I, I saw Chris Allen talking a lot of junk on the streets.
78:50He was talking big cash money after week one, Matt, big stuff from Chris Allen.
78:55And he only had what two players scored three players scored double digit points with one of them being the kicker.
79:01Rough. That that's bad. That's bad. You know, we'll see what happens with this Chris Allen team.
79:06He's got some situations to deal with. He's got a Jane Reed situation, lad McConkie banged up.
79:12We'll see. Meanwhile, Josh though, despite getting nine points from Drake may and 2.5 points from his favorite player in the NFL,
79:18Saquon Barkley, Kenneth Walker did his thing again. Stefan digs.
79:21Great job playing. Stefan digs. Love that decision from Josh.
79:24Sam Laporta went wild. Brees hall had a nice day, you know, not a perfect lineup.
79:29You know, we had some true duds from Josh here to Drake made Saquon Barkley DK.
79:34Metcalf, but Kenneth Walker, once again, runs the show for Josh's team.
79:38Yeah. Not a lot of offensive creativity. Go back to that chart that we put up there.
79:43Those Steelers, those Browns, those Dolphins, not a lot of creativity offensively, but what I want to see will Josh Benz that DK Metcalf.
79:50He was excited about him. I want to see if he's going to plug and play Denzel Boston come week three.
79:57Yeah. I don't love the fact that he has Michael Pittman and DK Metcalf.
80:01I don't know that I want one Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver.
80:04I certainly don't know that I'd be wanting two of them.
80:08All right. Let's get into some upsets this week because we had some big ones.
80:12Max. Oh, man. The onesie master himself. Max. 133 points.
80:15Just wipes away Joel Smith. Yeah. The Joel truthers were asking for the median once again this week.
80:21I don't know that that's going to save Joel who has some issues on his team.
80:25Caleb Williams. Only eight points. He's hurt. Yeah. Jameer Gibbs is awesome.
80:29Bucky Irving really good. Not feeling so good about Malik neighbors.
80:32He did play Rashad Bateman. I mean, man, Jalen Coker, Rashad Bateman in one lineup.
80:37Is it like Joel is he's reading reception perception with the Jalen Coker, Rashad Bateman lineup.
80:42But at the same time, there's some questions here for Joel's team with Nico Collins banged up likely to miss another week.
80:49Caleb Williams now injured. Malik neighbors injured. Oh, Joel could be staring down a tough week here coming up.
80:54Meanwhile, Max. 60 combined points from Josh Allen, Christian McCaffrey, Devontae Adams also turning back the clock with a near 36 point performance.
81:01It really didn't matter about the rest of his lineup, which definitely has some issues.
81:06Right. Michael has some issues didn't matter here in week number two.
81:10I mean, it's got issues galore. He might have 99 problems, but QB one ain't one.
81:15Josh Allen, Max took a lot of heat taking Allen early.
81:18And I guess when you have somebody that can drop a 40 burger, that makes up for a lot of single digit points here.
81:25And I'm looking at Joel's team, Marv, Nico. Oh, man.
81:28Rough, rough, rough. Max, meanwhile, has Brock Bowers coming back here pretty soon.
81:32So he's got another thing to drop in here.
81:35So if he can get a Roma Dunze emergence or something like that, I think Max's team is going to age really
81:42well here because, you know, listen, it's fun to sit here all summer and be like quarterback.
81:47It's so deep. Okay. You can just wait on the position forever.
81:50No problem. You know, it's also pretty fun when Josh Allen's on your team.
81:55He's scoring 40 points. Yeah. That's pretty great, too.
81:57That's great. Okay. Next one. Absolute stunner. Proton torpedoes.
82:00Wow. Torpedoes. Hayden's turtlenecks. I mean, people. Hey, people are very mean to Eric on the Internet after week one.
82:06Did not have a good did not have a good showing.
82:10Okay. It was not a good showing for our guy, Eric Proton, after week one.
82:14Well, he threw up the deuces to you guys and said, hey, check out 142 points over Hayden's team.
82:20Hayden was riding high after week one. He was talking about, man, my team is so good.
82:25My team is awesome. Well, it wasn't good enough to not get beat by the worst team in week one, which was Eric's team.
82:32Eric had a big game for Matthew Stafford. He had a nice game for Maury and Hampton.
82:38CeeDee Lamb went absolutely crazy. Kyle Pitts scored two points.
82:41Who cares? Eric still dominated, especially on the back of a 21 point outing from the New England Patriots defense.
82:47So I'm sure Hayden absolutely loves that. Meanwhile, on the Hayden side of things, he's in trouble at the quarterback position with Jaden Daniels.
82:54Devon Achan maybe not looking that great either. Luckily, he has Jackson Smith and Jigba.
82:59I will say, I hate myself for taking James Cook over Jackson Smith and Jigba in the draft for fear of the running back.
83:06You know, depth. I hate myself for that because I sure would like the 38 points in my lineup.
83:12They're in Hayden's lineup, but it wasn't enough to get past Eric in week two.
83:16Yeah, and I'm just I'm looking at this. I know Hayden loves Terrence Ferguson.
83:21He's probably going to auto start him over Isaiah.
83:23Likely moving forward. He's got to figure out the QB position.
83:27Look at Eric's team. You know, you know what I like the fact that he might have the best Denver running back
83:33just chilling on his bench right there with Jonah Coleman.
83:36Like nice, nice draft pickup right there for a role.
83:39Eric having Jonah Coleman. He doesn't have to battle waivers to get him because he's already got him locked up.
83:45No question about that. Okay, our last matchup of the week.
83:49The man who was in first place. The piano man himself.
83:52Scott Pianowski goes to 2-0 and hands Justin Boone his first L.
83:56Boone made a costly mistake that could have changed the entire outcome here.
84:00He played Colson Loveland over George Kittle. Colson Loveland 0.8 points.
84:03George Kittle 16 points. I know Justin Boone is in Canada right now just furious.
84:08Just furious about this decision. I know it's haunted him.
84:11I know Boone. Boone is my guy. I know he is furious about that.
84:15I guarantee you it's in the back of his mind constantly.
84:18Meanwhile, great outing. You know, it's a fine outing from Scott's team.
84:22I mean, David Montgomery, 3.4 points. Luther Burden, 4.7.
84:25Cortland Sutton. He's still hanging on to Cortland. Cortland Sutton will retire on Scott's roster.
84:29Four points here from him. Really, the biggest performance, honestly.
84:32I mean, obviously, I'm going to say Brown. But, of course, Harrison Butker gets 17 points for Scott Pianowski.
84:38So, I don't know. He didn't even play Brock Purdy, who was incredible, better than Jordan Love.
84:43So, is Scott good or is Scott lucky, Ray Garvin?
84:46You know what? This is – I feel like it's good.
84:50Yeah, I think he's a little lucky this week.
84:52I think it's fine. It's fine right here. The Cortland Sutton thing has got to come out of the lineup.
84:59But, I don't know. I guess he's waiting on Zay Flowers to get back.
85:03I look at Boone. He's got to be – I get it.
85:06Colston Loveland, it's not going to happen. But, man, Kittle, 16 points on the bench.
85:11This – I'll say this. This is a – this league, there's a lot of parity in this league.
85:17I don't think there's any dominant person in this league, despite what you may think with your 2-0 team.
85:23I don't want to hear it. I think there's a lot of parity here.
85:27I will get going. I feel confident that some others will.
85:30Matt Harmon, I just – I need you to lose this week.
85:34I'm going to just be very honest with you.
85:37We got to bring you down a few rungs here on this recap show.
85:41So, I am – I am praying on your downfall in week three.
85:45Call me a hater all you want. But we got – somebody's got to take you down this week.
85:51It's got to happen. But we got to get you – we got to knock you down a few rungs.
85:57Yeah. Well, we'll see. Yeah. Oh, Hayden Winks in the comments section, in the YouTube comments saying, most points in the league, we'll be back.
86:04Yeah, most points. We score head-to-head like men, all right, in this league, all right?
86:09That's what we're doing. None of those median points, none of that stuff.
86:13Okay, these are the standings here. 252 points for Scott.
86:16That is why he's in first place over me, the people's champ.
86:20249 points. You know, I really hate the Harmon's Deep Threats, just the default name.
86:24I just left it as the default name because I'm lazy.
86:27I actually don't like the name, but I can't change it now.
86:31It has to – I have to be Deep Threats.
86:34I mean, I don't love it, all right? It is what it is.
86:38We got to play better defense, though. 229 – 221 points allowed.
86:42We got to play better defense on my side of it here.
86:45There is no question about that. These are the standings right now.
86:49Scott's in first. I'm in second. Second, Max, the onesies, is in third.
86:53That's your 2-0 teams. Does anyone else really matter?
86:56Probably not. Looking ahead to week three, the person who's going to try to give me a loss, the Proton Torpedoes.
87:02All right? Kyle Pitts, it's time to continue to just score two points.
87:06That's what we need from Kyle Pitts. Josh is going to try to dethrone.
87:10Scott Pienowski, Ray and Boone go head-to-head. We'll see if he can get the tight end position right this week, Ray.
87:17You are hoping he does not, does Justin Boone.
87:19Eric Edholm and Dan Titus play in the someone's got to win bowl.
87:23And Joel, no easy task. Playing against a hungry – clearly a hungry.
87:27I mean, he's in the YouTube chat. Hayden's got a show.
87:31Hayden, you have a show in 30 minutes, pal.
87:33Get to work. I don't want to hear about – oh, it's hard to prep my notes for stats versus film when
87:40you're in the YouTube chat goofing around on this show.
87:43All right? You need to get to work on stats versus film.
87:47He needs to get to work trying to deliver a 0-3 start to Joel, who again is in a tough little injury spot in this upcoming week.
87:55We'll see what happens. Okay, that does it for the recap of the Yahoo Fantasy League.
88:00Shout out Hayden, man. I mean, listen, he still looks great in that turtleneck.
88:04I'll tell you that. He still looks great in the turtleneck.
88:08He looked better in his turtleneck than Jackson Dart did in his turtleneck on Monday night.
88:12No disrespect to Jackson Dart who – we're hoping for good health for Dart, but I think Hayden pulled it off a little bit better.
88:20Anyways, that does it. That does it for the recap of the Yahoo Fantasy League, and that does it for today's data dump show.
88:27Ray, absolutely electric content. We went deep on the schemes.
88:30We went deep on the data points that the people need to know.
88:34We will be back tomorrow as Nate Tice joins the show for a fun one.
88:39We are going to look at some offenses that have been impressive and some offenses who have been disappointing so far this season.
88:46That's going to be live right here at 4 p.m.
88:49Eastern on this YouTube channel. Until then, we are out.