0:00Big Show for you here today. It's the Midweek Show.
0:03It's Nate Tice. We're doing some deep dives into offenses that are trending up and down.
0:07The Jets, the Raiders, the Panthers, and the Saints all looking much better than expectations so far through two weeks.
0:13We do a deep dive on those teams to tell you if it's sustainable or if it's a fluke.
0:18Can we continue to trust Bryce Young? Can we continue to trust these receivers?
0:22We also look on the negative side of things.
0:24The Bucs have been disappointed, the Patriots, the Chargers.
0:27Plus the two teams we got to talk about on Thursday Night Football, Packers, Falcons.
0:31Not fun watches. Their efficiency metrics are trending down.
0:33Can they get going? Will it improve over the course of the season?
0:37All that and more come up on today's show.
0:39Let's get into it. What's going on, everyone? I'm Matt Harmon.
0:42Welcome to the Yahoo Fantasy Forecast, and it is a hell of a day to talk ball.
0:47And joining me to do just that is our good friend, Nate Tice.
0:51Nate, what's going on, man? Not too much. You know, it's a football season.
0:54It's full swing when you got a potential stink fest on Thursday night, a potential schlock on Thursday night that I very much will enjoy.
1:01But I'm doing great. We're in the thick of things.
1:04Great to see you. Excited for the show, too, because we got some surprises to talk about.
1:09Yeah, we got some surprises to talk about. We do have a Thursday Night Football preview that will be at the very end of the show.
1:16Before we get into that, we're talking through some offenses that are trending up and some offenses that are trending down through
1:22the first two weeks of the season and whether those surprises, the positive surprises can sustain themselves and whether some of the
1:28teams on the other side of it can actually get it together.
1:31And let's hope they can, because there are a lot of players that me, you, all of us are counting on on
1:37our fantasy football lineups for this team to get it together.
1:40So we'll see if that can happen. Plus, we've got the first flex fit check.
1:44We've got some players that are on that flex radar, the borderline that we might see as potential plays here in week three.
1:51But without further ado, let's talk through some of the offenses that are trending up and trending down.
1:56We've got seven teams to talk about here, Nate, because actually two of the teams that are playing on Thursday Night Football
2:02are definitely offenses that are going in the wrong direction.
2:04So because of that, to skew a little positive here, we've got four teams that are trending up, three that are trending down.
2:11Our trending up teams are the Carolina Panthers, the New Orleans Saints and the Las Vegas Raiders, plus the New York Jets.
2:17I mean, these are teams that are looking a little bit better so far this year are trending down teams.
2:22Nobody will be surprised by this. It is the Los Angeles Chargers.
2:26It's the New England Patriots and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
2:28I have a Frankenstein offensive efficiency score metric that I like to look at.
2:32It kind of combines a lot of the things that, you know, again, I'm like to kind of sort of check into from an offensive efficiency metric standpoint.
2:40Drop back EPA, rush EPA, points per drive, drives that end in a score, time of possession per drive, success rate and explosive play.
2:46I know you do the suplex, right? That's the success rate versus explosive play.
2:50The artist formerly known as sex. Yes, the artist formerly known as sex rate.
2:54I like to go just even further. Let's blend that pot all the way here.
2:58I think it does kind of pass the smell test when you look at it overall.
3:03But these are our biggest risers and fallers who have improved the most here.
3:07The Jets are our biggest riser from last year in the Frankenstein metric to this year.
3:11They're up 14 spots. They were 30th last year.
3:13They're 16th through two weeks. The Saints are 27th to 15th.
3:16The Chiefs are up, but, you know, come on.
3:19That's not that interesting to talk about. The Raiders, they're up nine spots, 31st to 22nd.
3:23The Panthers are up eight spots. The Titans went from one of the worst to just pretty bad, seven spots.
3:29The Ravens are also 13th to 6th. They're up seven spots.
3:32Our biggest fallers are the Patriots down 5th to 22nd.
3:35The Packers, as mentioned, 8th to 24th. The Falcons, 17th to 29th.
3:38We're talking about both those teams in Thursday night.
3:40The Colts are down. The Rams are down, but kind of the week one fluke, you know, we can throw that out.
3:46Then the Steelers just went from bad to abhorrent.
3:49And then the Chargers are down eight spots as well.
3:52So the Bucs are kind of a feel-based one to be included here.
3:55But that's sort of the state of things, Nate, as we come into week three.
3:59These are the teams that are moving up and moving down in offensive efficiency.
4:03Yeah, and always that small sample size caveat. But there's also some of that's why I like looking at stats.
4:09And I do my suplex thing, too, and try to parse it with early downs.
4:13And usually try to wait till about four weeks in.
4:16But still, there's some eye tests that matches with a lot of these.
4:19Especially some of the surprising ones in a good way.
4:22But also some of the followers, too. But actually, there's a couple I want to parse apart.
4:26That's what's going to be fun about these. Like, even that Rams ranking, it's like there's actually some really encouraging underlying stats.
4:33And, yeah, on the other side with the Chargers.
4:35Especially the Chargers. Especially. They're banned on my show, on Football 301, our show.
4:39But, you know. But not on this show. Yeah, yeah.
4:42I gave them the Jaguars ban. They get the ban.
4:44Yeah, yeah. And then, yeah. Yeah. Drop that in week two.
4:47I didn't know this. Yes, I know. Week two ban?
4:50We're already banning the Chargers in week two? I love it.
4:53Drop that hammer on them. Oh, man. I couldn't help myself.
4:56Even yesterday's show, I already broke the ban. I was like, all right, Steve.
5:00All right, Steve. I was just like, all right, Steve.
5:03We'll just talk about it. You have the floor because I have a ban on them.
5:07And then I spent five minutes just ragging them.
5:10So, you know, I still cheated my own little ban there.
5:13But, you know, it's all about cutting corners sometimes.
5:15Yeah. Look, he's just warming you up to bag on him here on this show as well.
5:20So let's get into some of these individual teams.
5:22Yeah. Nate, you and I are actually going to be doing ecosystem check-ins every four weeks here on this show.
5:28So after week four, we'll do more of a big picture, like here's the state of play.
5:32But we're just kind of looking early signals in the small sample size, as you mentioned.
5:37But let's start off positive and let's go to the NFC South here for the Carolina Panthers.
5:41As mentioned, things are definitely trending up for the Panthers.
5:44They right now are 14th in my offensive Frankenstein metric.
5:47We've been seeing some really good things out of the passing game specifically.
5:51Of course, Jalen Coker, Bryce Young is fantasy's quarterback two through two weeks.
5:54I definitely did not have that on my radar.
5:57What have you seen so far in Carolina? Also keeping in mind that Jonathan Brooks has been placed on IR.
6:02He's not going to be part of the proceedings going forward.
6:05Big receivers are big, whether it's Tedder McMillan and Jalen Coker.
6:08Let's launch them up. But I will say Bryce Young has really been pushing the football.
6:13They've had a lot of aggressive concepts. There is a little bit of the caveat.
6:17They had the Bears offense in week one, which I think it will be more of you can run on that.
6:22I'm sorry, Bears defense. You can run on that Bears defense more.
6:26Passing-wise, they're still not great. But really, running on them is going to be the weakness.
6:30So that will be something to keep an eye on, too, if you need a little get-right game for one of your
6:36fantasy backs going against that Bears defense. And then the Falcons are just, we'll talk about later, are just a zombie team.
6:42They have already started the arch to the sea.
6:45And when I look at those, I look at those performances.
6:48So there is a little bit of that caveat.
6:50But having said that, I just like some of the things they're doing, their use of personnel, formation-wise.
6:55Even stuff like mini stuff, and this is not really fantasy-relevant, is like getting in short yardage, getting in the jumbo, and
7:01using some interesting motion to push in short yardage as opposed to just a QB sneak.
7:06Because he can't do that with Bryce Young. So there's just been some thoughtfulness.
7:09On my suplex rate, they're 14th overall, just above board.
7:12But that kind of just shows that they're getting some nice efficiency.
7:15They're also kind of getting some big pop plays as well.
7:18I think the explosiveness of this offense has really stood out to me.
7:22Yeah, the explosiveness is definitely there. I mean, again, we've talked about a lot on this show.
7:27But the move from Dave Canales to give up a play calling to Brad Idzik, reportedly that was all about it.
7:32And I know you and I have talked about this.
7:35There was reportedly all about Brad and Bryce really had a good relationship and a good dynamic.
7:40And that obviously freed up Dave to do other things within the team.
7:43But it certainly feels like so far they've had a better pulse on what Bryce wants to do.
7:48Because despite the fact that he's not the most physically gifted quarterback in the league, to put it kindly, he does want to push the ball.
7:56And he does have an aggressive mentality when the looks are there.
7:59But I think you kind of got to give him the right look so far that has been there.
8:04Their motion, you mentioned this, is up from 25th to 9th so far this season.
8:08Just rate of motion overall. They've done some cool stuff in the running game with that motion.
8:13I'm like Chuba Hubbard actually. I mean Chuba Hubbard is going to go down as one of the best picks in fantasy right now.
8:19I mean he was someone that – Yeah, like it was easy to get caught up.
8:24I just thought. I know. It was so easy to get caught up.
8:27And I'm sure we did in the summer of Jonathan Brooks.
8:30What's the mystery box going to be? And then of course Chuba Hubbard misses time with a hamstring injury.
8:36But man, he's been rock solid so far for this team.
8:39And he's been really useful as a receiver. They brought in Austin Eckler for a workout this week.
8:44He's not going to sign today at least was the report from Mike Kay who covers the team.
8:49This is the Chuba Hubbard show right now. And I think it's going to remain that way.
8:53The run game has been still very – You and I gushed about the run game.
8:58What was that? Last year we had like 20-minute segment on the run game.
9:02Still looks really good and really interesting. And Chuba Hubbard is just out there executing too.
9:06Yeah. And now we just – yeah. We were talking about the run game right now.
9:10But what's been encouraging is that it's not so reliant on it when they get into obvious passing downs.
9:16They are staying aggressive, which I really like. You know, it's not just like, ah, throw a screen and we're done.
9:21But even on early downs, no team has more explosive reception so far on early downs, first and second down, than the Panthers.
9:28They have 11. And that leads the NFL. The Bills have 10 on early downs.
9:32So those early – and this is outside two minutes too.
9:35So this is just – this is just early down launches.
9:38It's play action launches. And again, you're not going to play the Falcons every week who are a zombie team.
9:43You're not going to play the Bears defense every week who are just – their defense isn't great.
9:48But if you look, the next couple weeks isn't that tough for the Panthers.
9:52You know, they get the Browns defense next week.
9:55So – and then it picks up after that.
9:57I think they have the Eagles. They got a couple tougher defenses there.
10:01But I mean – They have the week five – they have the week five bye.
10:05They play the Lions before the bye. So that's going to be a carnival game.
10:09And then they go Eagles, Bucs, Packers, Broncos, Saints, Ravens through week 11.
10:13So – and then, I mean, Packers defense is playing well.
10:16It's more against the run. But again, it's actually going against the Packers defense, which we'll talk about, is more gash or be gashed.
10:22Actually, their offense and defense are going to be kind of the same.
10:26I actually like it because they're – Jonathan Gann is blitzing so much.
10:29But I mean, all those NFC South defenses, like all those matchups, they're going to be juicy.
10:34Because it's not like the Bucs defense is playing well.
10:37And again, it's aggressive. So when you're pushing the ball like this, there's going to be mistakes.
10:42There's going to be misses. But that's the offense you want with Tetrault, McMillan, and Jalen Coker who are just studs.
10:47Like that's what – it's outright. There's no caveat to it.
10:50These are two really good receivers. I'm glad the Coker – like it's kind of cool.
10:55Like it doesn't matter. One is not getting the ball.
10:57The other is getting the ball. And it's not just like little gimmies and cheapies.
11:02It's a lot of downfield, juicy, juicy receptions. And we talk about opportunities, whether that's carries in the red zone or inside
11:08the 10-yard line, whether that's throws to the end zones.
11:10These routes are going to lead to big plays every single week.
11:14There's going to be a lot of these 10- to 20-yard chunks in this offense.
11:18Might have some naders. Might hit some troughs in it because of being that aggressive play style, especially if the run game
11:24is going to be more average-ish, below average. The whole line is still kind of sorting out in the run game.
11:30But they're trying. And they don't do away with it.
11:32They don't repeat play calls in a bad way as far as like, hey, we're running this again because it sucked last time.
11:39Let's run it again. Repeating the right play calls, which again, those are encouraging signs.
11:43So, again, I think there is some of that what defenses they're going against, but they're not playing a ton of great
11:49defenses outside of like that Eagles game. The lines are very gettable.
11:52The Bucs are gettable. The Packers are interesting, but they are gettable.
11:55But then we get into Broncos. But even like Ravens defense, that's gettable.
11:59So it's like there's a lot of opportunity here where they're just going to be at least the floor is higher with some pop games.
12:06Maybe not as much the Falcons, but enough that they can keep going and rolling.
12:10Yeah. And I mean, these receivers that you point out, I love the way you phrase this is these like big, juicy routes.
12:16Yes. It's all the stuff that I feel like you and I talk about all the time, the routes that we like to see receivers runs.
12:23These guys are perfect on those and they complement each other so well.
12:27There are, I believe, four teams right now with two wide receivers in the top 18 in terms of route participation, like
12:33how often they've been on the field relative to dropbacks.
12:36Again, 18 receivers are over 90%. One is the Minnesota Vikings, Jefferson and Addison.
12:40Two is the Detroit Lions, St. Brown and Jamison Williams.
12:42Three is Chris Olave and Devon Vele. And then we're going to talk about those guys in a second too.
12:48Yeah. And then four is the Carolina Panthers. Jalen Coker is 90%.
12:51Tedder McMillan is 91.5%. Nobody else on the team has run around on more than 65% of the dropbacks.
12:56Like this, these are their guys. They have like the other personnel groupings with the, with the tight ends where, you know,
13:02they'll get obviously like Darren Waller in the red zone.
13:05They did some cool stuff in week two where it's like Darren Waller is kind of isolated and he's just still 34 years old, whatever.
13:12He's still bigger than everybody else down there. And then they have like Tommy Tremble, Mitchell Evans.
13:17So all these guys kind of rotate in the orbit, but it's these two guys who have accounted for 27.3 and 27.3% of the targets.
13:24Like these are, these two guys are splitting the pie.
13:26Half of them is just, is going to these two receivers.
13:29And Nate, like, I mean, I think these two guys are both 20 top 24 real life NFL receivers right now.
13:35I mean, I got some pushback on Twitter. I said like, well, like Jalen Coker right now is better than Marvin Harrison and he's better than Luther burden.
13:43And people were like, wait, I was like, dude, he's better than both those guys right now.
13:48I don't care where he's drafted. Like he's, he's better.
13:50He might be better than Tedder McMillan. And that's not a shot to McMillan.
13:54Tedder McMillan's awesome. Um, I, like from a dynasty standpoint, I need to move like, but I mean, certainly I was already ahead of market on Coker.
14:02I need to get even more ahead of market on Coker because I don't, again, we'll talk about the Bryce Young sustainability.
14:08That'll be how we close this discussion. But these two receivers are going to make basically anybody's life easy right now.
14:13Yep. And if you look like, I mean, just like pulling up their target charts right now and like Tedder McMillan has
14:19three catches where he caught the ball 20 yards or further, you know, the 20 more air yards, he has three catches
14:25of five or under, and he has three of 20 or more.
14:29So again, those are the juicy ones. And he can come down with a fade balls, corners, digs, and in breakers that can lead to yak.
14:36Haven't gotten that as much going. There's one so far, but those outside ones where all these teams are playing cloud, all
14:42these teams are, there's opportunity for those. And then, yeah, I agree with Coker.
14:46Coker already has nine first downs on 18 targets, like 50%, 50% of his targets have turned into a first down.
14:52His is all over. Like he gets it everywhere.
14:54And that is what everything we wanted to see.
14:56We noticed that he was in the slot, but now they're working them on the outside, which opens up opportunities for Tetrault,
15:03which opens up opportunities when they have matchup advantages.
15:05Yeah. It's, there's not a lot of teams because these guys are obviously going to be good against zone because they're so
15:11big, but there's not a lot of teams that just have the size to handle both of them.
15:16And like, yeah, I'm glad you mentioned Darren Waller because they're sprint going them in and that he's given two weeks.
15:22He's been like a really tough guard, especially in those red zone looks.
15:25So yeah, it's, I don't know how high it's going to get, but like, like right here is like, I feel safe in saying like that.
15:32This is that very least above average passing game that can be really explosive and we'll see how the run game gets.
15:39They have, you know, working parts there. Monroe feeling the first round pick looks solid so far.
15:43Definitely looks like a hit. And, you know, again, they haven't gone against great players yet, but it's just one of these where I'm just really, really encouraged.
15:51It's, I mean, right now I'm even looking, Jalen Coker has 58 snaps, I think on the outside so far already.
15:57Like that, that's just like, that's so encouraging to what his role can be.
16:00So yeah, very excited about these guys dynasty, but just even redraft.
16:04I think this would be very alive. What was the stat that you had the other day?
16:08I think I responded to where it's like the drive off the ball that Chris Olave was one and Coker was three.
16:14Yeah. Yeah. Can you talk about that? So burst it.
16:17Yeah. Burst. I just came across it because I was looking up a speed stuff on next gen stats.
16:22So they have a, they have a stat called burst.
16:25So it is the miles per hour, average miles per hour.
16:28The receiver gets within the first second of a, of their route when they're not on speed motion.
16:33So they wipe those out. So it's just true stemming and going on your routes.
16:37And number one, easily, by the way, easily. Number one was Chris Olave.
16:41No one is even close to Chris Olave, which if you watch Chris Olave run routes, that's yeah.
16:46Yeah. But like 9.39, he was the only one above nine, you know, cause Alec Pierce is in second, which shocks nobody actually Alec Pierce too.
16:53I was going to, it sucks. I, you know, he's hurt, but I actually came across the stat.
16:58I think he has more routes where he hits 20 miles an hour or more than anybody else since he's earned the lead freak as far as right.
17:06Yeah. He can roll like literally probably maybe the fastest long speed guy in the league.
17:10And then Jalen Coker, which you wouldn't expect with Coker.
17:13Cause you think Coker is brawny, big target, but no, he has some heat to him.
17:17That's why some of these highlights are go balls.
17:20Cause there's not just go balls where he's going up and getting it.
17:23It's go balls where he's winning, like just stacking on top of the corner.
17:27And how is this dude on draft? They cut him after his first training, they cut him and signed up practice squad.
17:33And this guy is like you mentioned, I was going to say the same thing.
17:37I was like, I just arbitrary top 30 guy.
17:40This guy's a real deal high end too. And like can do a lot.
17:44It's, it's awesome. Like, it's really cool watching his development and just becoming a, a real boy, like a real dude at receiver.
17:50It's really cool. Yeah. I mean, and the crazy thing too is obviously went to Holy cross and the whole deal, you
17:56know, this, that, and the other, but I mean, he was a freak athlete from a, like a testing perspective, 98th percentile vertical jump, 85th percentile broad jump.
18:04So like the, the explosion metrics were there for him.
18:06He just 27th percentile 40 yard dash, but yeah, it's because he gets, I think watching him that the burst staff from
18:12next gen stats, as you highlighted really does match the eye test because he can get into those routes so quickly that
18:18like he had a better success rate verse press, uh, in his season last year than Ted or McMillan did.
18:24Cause like, I think McMillan's more smoother off the line is like, that's a terrible way of saying he's much more smooth off the line of scrimmage.
18:31He's harder to like get hands on in that way.
18:34He's got a wider base, which makes him tough to press.
18:37Cause he can get into the routes that way, but like Coker just rips into it, uh, off the line.
18:43And that makes him a very difficult receiver to jam.
18:45And then he stacks those guys really well. We saw that all throughout the end of last season.
18:50Keep you continue to see it now. I mean, yeah, as a rookie, he reminded me of Jacoby Myers and then like
18:56year two, he reminded me more of like Chris Godwin.
18:59And now it's just like, I mean, it just keeps building up for Coker.
19:03So it really is. I mean, it's just, it's so, so beyond, uh, real.
19:07And I mean, Chris Godwin was another guy when he came into the league too, you know, like 20, 90 third percentile, uh, in the 20 yard shuttle.
19:14Like he had a lot of explosion to his game as well when he was a younger player.
19:19So yeah, I mean, Coker's real Ted or McMillan's real.
19:22Um, I guess we can't really close the loop on the Panther thing without at least saying like, how real do you
19:28think the Bryce young, uh, part of all of this is like, where are you at with Bryce?
19:33How has your evaluation kind of changed on him through two weeks or has it, has it not?
19:38Is it more of the system? Um, it it's not really changed overall.
19:42I still think there's a lot of where he is bailing pockets a little earlier than I want to see.
19:47But the thing is, is he's offsetting it now and not just like pressure.
19:51Oh, I'm throwing underneath, which is always my like least favorite attribute with some quarterbacks.
19:55It's like, as soon as they get pressure, move off the point, their eyes go down and they don't launch it.
20:01Now I feel like it's not just go balls.
20:03There's other, I mean, the big, uh, post Xavier Leggett.
20:06So there's enough that it's offsetting maybe down to down inefficiency.
20:09You know, it's more just like, Hey, offset it with some explosives.
20:12So I like the aggression. And also I just do think that his, when he does kind of get into the scramble
20:18drill, which again, I think he does a little too much.
20:21They aren't leading to negative plays where he's just, or I would say just nothing place.
20:26He was, I think he was one of the highest like throwaway rates.
20:29Now these are kind of, he's turning more balls in play.
20:32I think maybe that's my best way to say it.
20:35There's more confidence in what he's seeing. So again, I have to see it against some better defenses, but this is everything you want to see.
20:42Like, I'm very encouraged off the Rams games. And then these games, it's like, Hey, stay aggressive, push the ball.
20:48And I just think, you know, he's going to always have some limitations, but if he's willing to do this at least
20:54enough, then it's a lot more viability than what I considered last year.
20:57But again, it's, I got to see it. I guess a little, some better teams.
21:02We're not, it might not be the Browns, but maybe that Eagles game is going to be a great test.
21:07Cause that the whole point of the Eagles defense or to Vic Fangio is limited explosives.
21:11So that that's going to be, I think once I go there, then I'll, can I kind of know a little bit
21:18more of how I feel in 2026 with him?
21:20Yeah, they can just, can they be a team that matriculates the ball down the field?
21:24I think that will be a big test. I think you think they have the players to do it.
21:30Can young, can young kind of play the guitar in that way?
21:33Well, we'll find out. I mean, I, I mean, I just think like he's a guy who does look like he's a
21:39little bit more confident and just like this happens with guys when they at least get enough reps in the league.
21:45I think he's a little bit better about, you know, IDing the right place to go with the football where it was
21:51really a mess from, and that's again, just experience in the league.
21:54I think there will always be a cap on who he is, but right now he's clearing the bar of like, this
22:00guy can start and be good in the NFL with good surroundings around him.
22:04And there's no question there's good surroundings here. So I think we're, we're, we're generally buying this trend up for the Panthers
22:10like 14th and offensive efficiency here, even though it has been two great spots.
22:14That feels, that feels pretty right to me. They can be hovering around there.
22:18Let's go to another NFC South team and a team that's trending down again.
22:22The bucks are, are trending down. I think because it's been so disappointing from a metric standpoint, they actually aren't really all
22:28that different from where they were last year right now in the efficiency metrics.
22:31They're 16th or their 18th last year, they were 16th.
22:34So it's actually just down. It's actually pretty much the same, but they are one of these teams, Nate, that has a massive gap in their EPA.
22:42They are, their culture, the only team that has a bigger gap between their rushing EPA and their drop back EPA, because
22:48the bucks are sixth and rushing EPA. They're 30th in drop back EPA.
22:51Their passing game has been a mess. So has their defense, by the way.
22:55I would actually argue that their defense irritates me more than their offense.
22:59So let's, let's actually put a, let's actually put a pin in that and come back to it in a second.
23:04But offensively, I'm going to ask you just an unfair question.
23:07Is this all Baker Mayfield's fault? Cause I've watched both of these games.
23:11Why? Okay. Cause I've watched both of these games and I've watched them back live on film and I kind of feel like it's Baker Mayfield's fault.
23:18He's got to chill out. He already got paid.
23:21Just chill out. Like that's, I keep saying it.
23:23It's like, he is just totally like, I would say in his own head, but he's trying to get everything back.
23:29If he makes a mistake, like honestly, they should be running the ball 35 times just to chill them out.
23:35Like, I believe, I think this run game is going to be good.
23:38Like right. Even right now where it doesn't feel right.
23:41Like I actually do think the run games got like a more meat on the bone, but I think they can chew that meat off.
23:48I don't know. I'm trying to think of analogy here.
23:51But no, like Bucky Irving, like is going to be a real, very viable running back and like one that I'm like, I knew this up fricking preseason.
23:58I didn't get any shares on him in any redraft league because I just, all these other guys, these other siren songs were right there.
24:05They're usually in that little area. And I was like, oh yeah, I want to go with that.
24:10It's like, just follow Bucky Irving. He was supposed to be my flex and like ride him to glory and flex this
24:16entire, as my flex guy this entire year. And I just didn't listen to myself.
24:20But anyways, that's real. The run game is real.
24:23Or at least right now, like they're 17th rushing success rate on early downs and they are, what are they?
24:2814th and explosive rushes. And I think there's going to, they're going to end up more top 10.
24:33I really do in that, that category, but the passing game's got to, it can't be as volatile as this because it's
24:39just, I mean, it's just like bad decisions. It's turnovers.
24:42And again, you're not going to lose every fumble like that, like he did against the bangles, but don't, the process led to that bad luck.
24:49You know, there's sometimes you create your own luck.
24:52Like I always think Josh Allen creates his own luck.
24:54Mahomes creates his own luck. Like, like I think Baker, he was creating his own bad luck with just bad decisions and then compounding it.
25:01You know, even just like stuff that he's 30th and like sack EPA loss per drop back.
25:06So it's just like, so the sacks are terrible, but he's first in area yards per attempt on early downs.
25:11So it's like, what does that tell you? He's trying to get it all back.
25:15Like he's trying to like try things and it's aimless throws though.
25:19It's not like Mike Evans isn't there. Mike Evans isn't walking through that door.
25:23The, your receivers are more the kind of like, there should be Panthers.
25:26More intermediate guys, more in the system guys, as opposed to YOLO.
25:29Michael come down with it. Godwin and Mecca Buka aren't built that way.
25:33They are built for efficiency with the intermediate stuff underneath stuff.
25:36And right now they're really throwing a lot of screens in there.
25:39Like in the bangles game, they try to chill them out, throw a lot of screens, but I don't know.
25:45We gotta, we gotta find, they have to find a balance with this passing game.
25:49And it's really been discouraging because I, you know, like he, I really do think he's just making a ton of mistakes and not making the throws.
25:56Right. Yeah. Just to close the loop on Bucky Irving first there, cause it's the more pleasant conversation.
26:0177% of the running back touches like Sean Tucker, not a thing.
26:05Kenny gain. Well, nothing like nothing burger, just a little, just a little role play.
26:09Yeah. A little, little seasoning salt on the top.
26:11That's 12th at the running back position. The running back touch share for Bucky Irving.
26:15He's the guy, the run game is good. Like big time hit as a running back to bare minimum Bucky Irving.
26:21That part of the offense looks good. You, I think because I charted a Mecca Buka last night for week two.
26:27And I think you, you basically bar for bar nailed exactly what you just said about this bucks team where like Baker,
26:33when he comes back from the two minute drill, which in fairness was like three hours long because I was going to
26:39say two hour, two hour pause in between the two minute drill.
26:42Yeah. Which is this crazy. Uh, he's like trying to force the ball into tight windows to Ted Hurst.
26:47Who's like theoretically the Mike Evans replacement in the office.
26:50Ted Hurst is a rookie receiver out of Georgia state Baker.
26:53What are we doing? Come on. Like, no, you're no, your guys know what's going on here.
26:58A book is in the exact role that we would have wanted for him.
27:02He's off ball on 77% of his snaps in week two.
27:05He's in the slot 40% backfield. 16% is a motion option.
27:08Like, and he's winning on these big breaking routes.
27:10It's just like, you need to stand in there and deliver it, but like not the go balls, tight coverage stuff that you're talking about.
27:17Like feel the flow of the offense, man. And it's to me, I don't think the, I don't watch this team be
27:23like, this design is stupid or whatever. They've got to like push the screen button.
27:27You're right to just chill their $50 million quarterback out.
27:30But the, I know that part's tough, but just, is it, is it also as simple as this is Baker?
27:36I mean, he's always going to be about the 15th best quarterback in the NFL, but he's never the 15th best quarterback in the NFL.
27:42It's always like, he's either the 25th or the fifth and there's really no in between and right now or at the bottom end.
27:49That's it. That's what it is. His lows are lows and his highs are, and that's the thing.
27:54He's never going to change. He's 30 something. He's gotten paid now.
27:57And this is what his competitiveness is. What makes him have his highs.
28:01And so you want to channel it. So that's the thing.
28:04I think they're just trying to figure out how to channel it.
28:07Um, and right now, yeah, it's like even the last play that he missed.
28:11I think that was a four. Yeah. Obviously it was a fourth down.
28:15That was actually the right proper route. It was a book on the target.
28:18I believe it was post. He just misses the throw.
28:21Like that's it's open. It's a right call. It's a red zone call.
28:25It was, he just misses the throw. And again, if I'm paying you fifth, if he was just getting his 30 something million, whatever.
28:31Okay. I'd be a little more lenient. You are now eating up this much of the cap.
28:36You're getting this page much money. You have to hit those stars.
28:39That's why you get paid plus million. So that's why I'm a little harsher on him than maybe I've been in the past.
28:46And so I brought this up on our division preview show on the NFC South.
28:50Um, it was that I talked about with and without Mike Evans.
28:53And I kind of got yelled at the right.
28:56Well, there's other variables with those. There's a big sample size now with Mike Evans.
29:00He averaged 6.6 yards per drop back, or I'm sorry, 7.3 yards per drop back without a 6.6.
29:05Okay. 37 quarterbacks. Baker got with the box. He was eighth in that category.
29:0822nd when he doesn't have Mike Evans and success rate terms.
29:11So successful or successful per play. Cause that's like including the wrong game and everything.
29:16He's six with Mike Evans. That's about the same as Dak Prescott.
29:19And then without him 36th, I mentioned 37 quarterbacks.
29:21So he goes from six to 36th in successful, successful throws per play.
29:25So that right there, that's the stat where it's like, there's no efficiency.
29:28I mean, look at this. There's so many empty forays on that throw and a whole bunch of screens.
29:34And it's just, yeah, it's, it's a very, it was more.
29:37That's the thing. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. The chart is perfect.
29:39And what you're saying is the Mike Evans part of this.
29:43I remember in 2023 when Mike and Baker had that great year together.
29:46The first one, they were just like hammering him on out routes.
29:49Cause Mike Evans is bigger and he's awesome against man coverage.
29:52And he's winning on all these out routes. And Baker loves to throw those out routes, especially to the field.
29:58Like when it's, when there's a lot of space and you're seeing that here.
30:02When like Sterling Shepard is, yeah. Sterling Shepard, the out route.
30:05We've talked about this. And by the way, a few of the throws that happened in a week two were just Emeka
30:11Buka and him were locked in on the out routes, but then like he is just not pulling the trigger on these
30:17throws over the middle of the field. And if you're looking at this passing chart with us on YouTube, if you're watching
30:23on audio or you're listening on audio, the middle of the field is just bereft of any real deal targets here.
30:29And I'm telling you watching on tape, that's where the routes are going, especially with the guy who's supposed to be the
30:35primary receiver in the progression, who's not getting targeted on nearly enough routes at this standpoint.
30:39And that's where you want to book in Godwin to work.
30:42They're big burly receivers that can do that. They're tough receivers that can handle it.
30:46Even, but even like, or, and maybe he gets shied away like week one against the bangles.
30:51Cause there's gonna be a, you could really target tight ends and slots against the bangles defense.
30:56That's going to be something I'm going to be on keying on this year.
30:59He tries to hit Kate Otten and Kate Otten drops it.
31:02Or he's just like a little low, but he drops it.
31:05But then he like never did it again that game.
31:08Like it was like, nah, I'm good. I tried.
31:11I tried guys. I couldn't hit it. I also did note the target here on this target map that is perfectly dead center.
31:17Uh, at that seven, seven yards below the line of scrimmage.
31:20I did think that was humorous. That was like, you can do that more dead center.
31:24I don't know. I thought that was funny. Cause I looked at the Sunday night.
31:29So I, I did note that, um, like that I, no one could ever put that more dead center than he did on that one target.
31:36That's seven yards behind the line of scrimmage. But this is, there's those intermediate routes, those in breakers watch the Seahawks game
31:42last year when Baker was getting the weird MVP hype against the Seahawks, um, after the first month, but that Seahawks game,
31:48it was big in breakers, big in breakers that he was ripping.
31:51And whether that's confidence or not with confidence in his guys, he was thrown to the same guys.
31:56He was throwing a little book and I think other guys were banged up.
32:00So that's the thing is like, I don't know.
32:02It's the old lines playing better. The run game is going to, is there.
32:06It's at the very least, I think even right now, early down rushing suplex, I think they're they're 14th.
32:11And again, I think they'll climb to top 10 cause they're right below it.
32:15Um, but I do think that, yeah, the passing games got just be more viable outside just screens.
32:20Yeah. And I think if we're talking about like, is this sustainable or not?
32:24Like, can it get better for the bad teams?
32:27Maybe not this week against Minnesota. Although, you know, there, there will be some spots to pick on.
32:31It's kind of a, that's definitely a gash or be gash, but you, they've been gashing so far, uh, this season.
32:37Maybe it won't be this week, but Packers, Cowboys, Steelers, Panthers, uh, Falcons, bears before a week 10 by like there.
32:43I actually think we will get some good Baker games and that will be good at Buka games.
32:48But for the most part, like it's going to be a rocky ride with Baker playing this way right now.
32:53There's no question about that real quick before we move on to the saints.
32:57And I do mean real quick. Like this bucks defense is such a joke.
33:01It's, it's so frustrating to watch. I can't, I can't believe how bad, I can't believe how bad it is.
33:07Like the linebackers are a mess. They, the tackling is terrible.
33:10It's the softest coverage you've ever seen in your entire life to the point that Sean Watson can have the best game since he's, since the fricking pandemic.
33:17Like it's, it's unbelievable. Uh, I, I think just the takeaway there for me, I'm curious if you have any other thoughts
33:23is just start players against this bucks defense. Cause yeah.
33:26Oh my God. Uh, there's going to be some open windows of your quarterback and find them.
33:31Yeah. You might be in for a good time.
33:33It's, uh, I mean, yeah, no, that's how I feel about him too.
33:37And that was just surprising to me because I was like, they got healthy Ruben Bain, Ruben Bain might be banged up.
33:43I got really watched, but he's not providing any of the juice that I thought.
33:47Um, but even like they, they're not that great against the run.
33:50Like you, like, which it should be a strength of Vita Veya out there.
33:54And that's kind of always their thing where you can't run on them.
33:58So you have to pass and then you have to pass and they're going to blitz you, blitz you like crazy.
34:04That's the formula that they want to get into.
34:06But if they can't stop the run and you're gashing them in the past game, what does you say you do here?
34:12Todd Bowles? Like, and what do you say you do here?
34:15I thought Alex Anzalone is all over the place in a bad way.
34:19Uh, Trotter has had moments. He had the pick six early, but he looks scattered.
34:23And I thought of him as a smart player coming out of Mizzou.
34:26So, um, and even on the backend, like you, there's time.
34:29I mean, uh, Morrison's played decently, uh, and they still have Winfield and everything, but like Denzel Boston got Morrison a couple of times.
34:36Um, that might just be Denzel Boston. Yeah. That just might be my guy, our guy.
34:40Um, so that's one of those things too. But yeah, I, this is definitely a target defense.
34:45I think maybe it's the best way to put it.
34:48Like you can attack this defense and you know, who likes to launch it?
34:52Kyler Murray with Justin Jefferson. Kyler Murray's coming back this week.
34:55So this might be, if you get Kyler back off the waiver wire, like this might be a fun week for it.
35:01Right. Uh, when he comes back, did you, I know I need, I need him one of the leaks.
35:06I think he's still available for me. It's CJ Stroud or Kyler for me.
35:10So I might go with Kyler. Oh, I'm debating between, uh, in the analyst league.
35:14I'm debating between, uh, Justin Herbert, who I've started for two weeks and I'm still somehow to an O or, uh, Kyler Murray.
35:20Uh, so we'll, we'll be kicking that one around until Sunday, but yeah, it's a really good spot for Kyler.
35:26So I'm considering making the change there. Uh, let's take the NFC South for our next trending up team, the new Orleans saints.
35:32Uh, and listen, Nate, we gotta, I think we gotta pat ourselves on the back a little bit for this one, because
35:38we've been talking about the saints since the damn combine and how this was going to be an interesting team only two
35:44weeks, but they're up from 27th in offensive efficiency to 15th.
35:47Um, some little worries here specifically left tackle. Kelvin banks is going to, he has to had surgery for a high ankle.
35:53So that is, you always say high ankle sprain is a six week injury.
35:57That's going to be longer than a six week injury on that particular high.
36:01Eight weeks. That might have been a long time.
36:03Um, but I mean, other than that, outside of the backfield, which has been a mess for fantasy, this passing game has
36:09been, you know, outside of a rough first quarter for Tyler Shuck in the first game of the season, they've been pretty much cooking.
36:16I really love what I've seen from this team.
36:18Yep. Uh, great designs. They get in the red zone.
36:21They have great designs. Juwan Johnson is like start every week because Shuck likes them.
36:25Um, Shuck will find check downs a little too frequently until he, until he's forced out of it.
36:30Uh, but that's actually a good thing for Juwan Johnson and everything.
36:34But Olave, and I know you love Olave. I love Olave.
36:37Olave looks like all pro caliber this year. Oh yeah.
36:39Um, he's practically unguardable. Like he, he's unguardable. Like it's, we're getting to that point with him, not just against zone.
36:45It's like, you can't battle against him in man to man.
36:48Um, like it's, he's doing some awesome stuff. And then, but the complimentary parts are really working.
36:53Vele is also like very viable and him and Shuck have great chemistry.
36:56And there's a lot of concepts where both of them are live.
37:00So I think a lot of it will get a lot of touches in the red zone and those third downs where
37:06it's like, I mean, they, there was a missed pick play.
37:09They try to run on third down to him that would have scored if a shock was protected.
37:14Um, and then like the red zone touchdown to him was a brilliant design.
37:17It's called a divide concept that it's really in vogue right now because of what coverages teams run in a lot of quarters in the red zone.
37:25It's a great quarters beater. But again, they're pressing the right buttons at the right time.
37:29Early downs have been a little worrisome because the run game stinks.
37:33And they, it's, it's, it's really bad right now.
37:35Yeah. Like what's going on there? It's been like, okay.
37:38H and Travis, H and just looks rough. If I'm being honest, like it's, he doesn't, he's not seeing it at all.
37:44Um, Flaga has kind of taken a step back in a run game, but he looks good in past game, which is
37:50backwards of what I thought he would be banks.
37:52Banks was actually looking good, but now he has a high ankle sprain.
37:56The interior, they're kind of getting pushed back. They're susceptible to kind of strength.
38:00So there's just been, they're losing a lot of ground in the run game.
38:04I don't think that's going to be the strength of this team, which I actually thought would could maybe turn into one,
38:10but that might mean they just start going super pass heavy.
38:13That might just be more screens. They're trying to actually get Chuck on some design runs, which I'm indifferent on.
38:18I was trying to say, I'm indifferent. I'm a little low on them because I'm just kind of like, not, not my favorite plane to build.
38:25Um, but they do it enough, but there's, there's some real stuff here.
38:29Like they're explosive in the passing game. Chuck's willing to chuck it.
38:32Chuck's also doing some creation stuff, um, which is makes third downs viable.
38:36They made a little too much of a living on third down and fourth down so far this year.
38:41I want to see the early down passing game pickup, but I think they're going to turn up the dial in the passing game.
38:48Scott, we, we both know this, but Scott Linahan's on that staff.
38:51Kel Moore's on the staff. They, Scott Linahan coached Matthew Stafford when he set the record for pass attempts in a season.
38:57He has no qualms with what, what's chucking it.
38:59I know he's not the OC or anything like that.
39:02So like you see that, that scatter chart that, and that's 34 pass attempts, you know, last week we might get some 40 plus games.
39:09Like they, I think this is going to turn into a more, a way more pass heavy offense as the season goes along.
39:15And I encourage it. I really do. They're 10th in a pass rate over expected right now.
39:20They're first, obviously in place per game, first and no huddle rate first and seconds person.
39:24They're going to, yeah, they're going to just, this is the crazy thing to expect.
39:29And like, this is why Valey should be rostered and is in that like, Hey, if you need help at receiver standpoint,
39:35cause I mentioned he's running around on 90% of the dropbacks and they're going to run a bazillion plays every single week.
39:41So it's just, those two guys are going to cook.
39:43And with the way, I mean, I said this to Josh and Hayden on the stats versus film yesterday.
39:49Did you know Bryce Lance has run 77 routes this season?
39:52You probably don't because he's not. Oh, I do.
39:54Well, sick, sick pump. Nate Tice does. Yeah. He can, he can really move.
39:58And right now he's not, he's just the sacrificial player in the offense.
40:01He is 6.5% targets per route. I mean, he's, but that's, that's going to open things up for these other guys.
40:07You saw the, the, the chart for Shuck. A lot of those like quick out routes all go to a lava.
40:13And that was, I talked about this in last season where Spencer Rattler and, and, and Olave had a really good chemistry
40:19on those quick outbreakers, but then Shuck comes in, he matches that, and then he will launch it at least three times
40:25over the middle to a lava and a lava is just, you know, wide, wide open.
40:30And I think I love this offense, Nate. I think I figured this out.
40:33I figured, I think I figured out why I really like it so much because I think Kellen Moore is a really like quarterback friendly play caller.
40:41A lot of the stuff they have designed here.
40:43It's like, he gets, he gets these guys into good rhythm.
40:46And I think Shuck, you mentioned he has a good chemistry with Vele.
40:50I thought last year he developed a great chemistry really quickly with Chris Olave.
40:54Like he's just a very receiver friendly quarterback. And as a biased member of big receiver, I very much like a quarterback friendly wide receiver.
41:01So I think that's why this like pushes my right buttons for this offense.
41:04And I'm fascinated to see what Shuck can do.
41:07You know, if when Jordan Tyson gets ramped up, like, will he have that same kind of effect with him?
41:12We don't know when he's going to come back, but something to kind of keep an eye on.
41:17I think passing game players in this offense will continue with the pace and the way Shuck plays.
41:22Not perfect, but very receiver friendly. I think this is, I find a lot of sustainability in the past game here.
41:28Yep. It's, it's, this is one of those real life.
41:31I think this is more like an above average to good offense fantasy.
41:34I'm buying everything though. Like it's very fancy friendly, very, what you said, quarterback friendly.
41:38Um, the pace, I think the past game will go up.
41:41And I think the Bryce Lance sacrificial stuff is real because, or I mean, or it has kind of like a boost effect on everybody else.
41:49It's like early career out Pierce, which was kind of an easy comparison to make with Bryce Lance.
41:54He opens up vele's not signing any speed records.
41:56A lot of it can do everything, but you don't.
41:59So if you're running it like these concepts that have like a post and over, you want to lobby on the over
42:05because you want him getting the juicy target on those concepts.
42:08But that's where Bryce Lance comes in. Um, there was a play actually the one I quote tweeted with that first score stat that play.
42:15If you look on it, Bryce Lance is in the slot and yeah, yeah.
42:19Throttle, throttle, throttle. And see the core going like, Oh my God.
42:22Oh my God. Um, but the, on that one, Bryce Lance is in the slot and he is rolling and he takes
42:28two guys and those routes are called take two routes.
42:31And a lot of receivers don't realize what that means.
42:33They go take two posts and like, no one under, they don't like.
42:37No, with a literal meaning of that is, it means you're taking two defenders with you.
42:41And that's what Bryce Lance gets put on. There's a lot of traditional offense in this.
42:46And I say my compliment to shock and, and I mean this in a, in a, actually a good, this is more
42:52of a compliment compliment that I think people are going to realize is like, there's a lot of Derek Carr to his
42:58game because if it's good, he's going to get there.
43:01He's going to get to the right target. He gives a lot of ball plays chances.
43:05He gets rid of the ball when he needs to.
43:08Um, again, I'm going to come back to that pick play, which was an incompletion on third down.
43:13I was more impressed by the incompletion than some of his completions because he's pressured right away.
43:17A lobby is on a wheel route and he throws it well before a lobby even is even breaking because he's, he's
43:23about to get sacked, but he gave the play a chance and he put it to the right spot.
43:29But that's good process. That's going to lead to big plays down the road.
43:32So yeah, I like the Ravens did dominate that game.
43:35Don't get me wrong, but the saints are like, this is a very, very fancy friendly offense that I'm really liking a
43:41lot of their pieces outside the run game. The passing game was really like the pieces.
43:46Yeah. I do think Travis H and drafters are banged because he's just like, not, you can talk about the contract all
43:52you want, but he's not playing up the contract right now.
43:55Alave is playing up to his contract and more.
43:57Um, I can't believe you got less per year than a DK Metcalf.
44:01That's absolutely insane to me here. Right. He's going to be an all pro this year and it's a long time.
44:07Like Chris Olave is a superstar bag holder. Uh, I'm, I'm just loving what he's doing.
44:11Should have won a rookie of the year. Still maintain that.
44:14Should have won a rookie of the year. I still, still won't get over that.
44:18They spawn talk about good contracts. How about Jalen Coker's contract?
44:21That is might be the most, that might be the best extension pay in the fricking league right now that he's getting paid.
44:27Like, Oh my God. Alan Lazard from a few years ago.
44:30It's crazy. I mean, he's a top 25 guy.
44:33I know. So the undrafted players will forever be banged.
44:36There's just nothing, nothing they can do about that.
44:38Um, okay. Let's get to a team that's trending down here.
44:41And this is the new England Patriots. Um, is we, we, we really let this team have it after week one, Nate on three Oh one.
44:48When we did the recap for the Wednesday night opener, I gotta say they won in week two.
44:53I don't really feel all that better about it other than Travian Henderson did give him one long run, which is great.
44:59Cause I don't think you're going to get a lot of consistent explosive plays in the past game.
45:04Um, I am, I remain pretty worried about what we've seen so far from the Patriots and what we might get going forward with AJ Brown.
45:11You know, I don't know when he's going to be back and I don't know what he's going to look like when he gets back.
45:18Yeah. The, and the thing that's frustrating is even though I liked some of the stuff they did in the run game
45:24against the Steelers, you can't predict who's going to get those touches now.
45:28They give them, they split them between Stevenson and Stevenson and Henderson.
45:31It's kind of one of those things. So it becomes very fancy, frustrating real life football.
45:36I like it, but fancy wise, that's going to be, and I'm a guy that has some Stevenson and I'm just kind
45:42of like, all right, Denzel Boston, what's, what's roll you in the flex baby.
45:45You know, that's kind of like, well, I'm swapping out in there, but that's the thing is like real football.
45:51I did like more of the run game stuff, but off passing game wise, not only AJ Brown is out, not only
45:57is some of the passing game stuff, very archaic.
45:59Um, again, I always get back to Josh McDaniels is sound.
46:02But he's not creative. It's, and there's no one on that staff.
46:06So I can bring creativity to it and you hope AJ Brown puts, put it over the top, but he's not, he's
46:12not walking through that door for four more weeks.
46:14Um, so you got Matt Collins dead, you know, he's just a blocker.
46:18And once in a while, he'll get a ball.
46:20Pop Douglas is not that they're not going to be kind of a nickel and dime team.
46:25I will buy more into Drake may because he's scrambling at the right rate.
46:29Like, so if you want to buy low quarterback and you want to use him and like try and get them, the
46:35tape on him wasn't as bad against the Steelers as I kind of thought there's one play.
46:40A lot of people are extrapolating, uh, that he checked it down to Stevenson and he had Eli Raritan running up to see him.
46:46And I will agree that like, yeah, maybe we could have held it a little bit longer to get there, but the film actually wasn't as bad.
46:54The Steelers front's really good. Like that Steelers defense is good.
46:57Um, and the Seahawks is the Seahawks. And so, yeah, that's also a thing too.
47:01Like anyone who want to go against the Steelers, good luck.
47:04Um, but I really want to say that like, yeah, this is the whole line.
47:08It was looked rough against the Steelers to looked rough against the Seahawks.
47:11That's going to be a thing. They played the Jags.
47:14Jags are really sound. They bring pretty good blitzes.
47:17Then they got the bills. So that's one, that's the defense that I want to see, like how they perform against and
47:23like, okay, where are we at with that? Where can we go with these?
47:27But none of their skill guys are viable to me other than Eli Raritan dynasty shares, you know, like, and Drake may,
47:33I think is still going to be fine, but I think Eli Raritan dynasty shares.
47:37Yeah. Great. Awesome. As long as he stays healthy, I know he got banged up, but everybody else, I'm just kind of like, oof, oof.
47:44They're trying to get Kyle Williams going. He got an in breaker as opposed to a go route.
47:49So that was encouraging. That was cool. That was encouraging.
47:51Once. I think one. One. So kind of put him back on the job.
47:55You said Matt Collins is a blocker. He leads it.
47:58He led the team in routes in week two.
48:00I know. That's what he's always on the field.
48:03They're building. They're passing him out. Matt Collins, who the bills were like, no more.
48:07And Pop Douglas, who I still maintain like shouldn't get as many reps he does because he can't.
48:12I mean, as I say that he has a pancake block on Henderson's touchdown.
48:16Right. But he's not really that blocker. And yeah, just.
48:18And he's not that zone. We've talked about this previously where it kind of just manned into.
48:23It's a real. I do think ultimately. You know, I feel like this.
48:27This offense is just well set up to be a bad team beater and not that well set up against against good teams.
48:33So yeah. The first two weeks, obviously Seahawks Pittsburgh.
48:36That's a tough draw. Jacksonville is a pretty reasonably tough draw on its own right in week three.
48:40They get the bills. And before you mentioned it does lighten up after that where Raiders, Jets, Bears, Dolphins before Packers and
48:47then, you know, Germany game against the Lions before the bye.
48:50So it does get a little bit lighter for the Patriots there.
48:53And ultimately, I just think personnel wise and scheme wise, they're set up to beat bad teams, but not so much against the good teams.
49:00I struggle to kind of see anything different than that with this team, but maybe it'll prove me wrong.
49:05I will say is I only drafted Drake, Maine, one team, and it was an auto draft because it was slow draft and I forgot about the pick.
49:13So that was my only Drake made teams. I wasn't really taking quarterbacks in that range.
49:17I started Jordan love last week and I'm going to start Jordan love again this week.
49:21So I'm going to be waiting on may until some of those like lighter matchups and maybe Brown's back before kind of considering him as a QB one.
49:29Again, another offensive. I'm sorry. Can I get one stat real quick?
49:32And this kind of, this is just, or two stats I should say.
49:36And I always live off success rate and explosive plays Patriots offense 15th and success rate when passing the ball.
49:41Again, it's really funny. Patriots writers and everything are acting like the sky is falling and their quarterbacks 15th and success rate 25th and explosive passes.
49:49That's that's the offense and the run game is not good enough to like carry them.
49:53So that's, that's what those stats is how exactly how it feels right now.
49:57Sorry to cut you off though. No, you're good.
49:59That's exactly. You're right. That is exactly how it feels.
50:02So it's a good way to tie a bow on that.
50:05Okay. We've got two more teams to go on in depth here.
50:08Well, technically three. So we'll pick up the pace here a little bit.
50:12Talking about the Raiders though, the Raiders have definitely trended up here.
50:15Last year, they were 31st as you might imagine in the offensive efficiency metrics this year.
50:20They're 22nd. So, I mean, they're not great or anything, but they have really been explosive in the passing game.
50:25And it's like QB 11 right now, Kirk Cousins and fantasy because he's been ripping that ball downfield off play action.
50:31Our guy, Trey Tucker, the next chart on Trey Tucker is so perfect from week two, especially when you combine it with his reception perception chart.
50:38Because like I said this about him last year in 25 in that Raiders offense, it's like one of the most balanced route charts that you'll see.
50:45Basically all but one route was from a route percentage, like how often he ran it was at or above the NFL average.
50:52So it's really spread out across the tree, but he can really only run three routes at a really high level.
50:58Dig post nine and look at what he's doing here in week two.
51:01It's just big breaking routes over the middle of the field.
51:04So it just makes perfect sense with his particular skill set with what this offense wants to do.
51:09Play action, launch in the ball. I do not think there will be sustainability in this passing game and the run game.
51:15I'm curious to see what you think about the run game so far.
51:19I think pass game wise, it's going to be a rocky road, but in the right spots and they've had the right spots these last two weeks.
51:26It can hit. It can hit for the passing game and specifically Trey Tucker and fantasy.
51:31Yeah, I know it's not me. You wouldn't go.
51:33I wouldn't go into a game thinking throws of 20 more air yards.
51:37If I said, okay, Justin Herbert and Kirk Cousins are going against each other, which one went two of three for 82 yards and a touchdown?
51:44And which one went 0-3 with a pick? Kirk Cousins is the one that went two of three with 82 yards and a touchdown.
51:50And honestly, it was Clint Kubiak called him out after week one.
51:54Someone asked him and said, you know, passive aggressively.
51:56Someone asked him like, hey, how do you create explosive plays in the passing game?
52:00And he was like, throw it deep. You got to throw it.
52:03You got to throw it. And then sure enough, you had those perfect looks.
52:07The Chargers defense right now, I am so out on.
52:10Like where it's like, please start any guys you have against that Chargers defense.
52:14I think this unit might be a bottom eight one as opposed to average, which I thought going in could be average.
52:20Maybe they get sound, but they bust and it's vets.
52:23It's not even just new guys. It's vets having busts.
52:25So that is a defense I am attacking. But they did play well against the run.
52:30The O-line is playing better. But I really thought the Chargers kind of sold out on that.
52:35Maybe that's going to lead to that. But so maybe there is some susceptibility to that.
52:39But if you're getting single high looks and you're going to hit Trey Tucker, there's going to be at least some explosiveness
52:45here, which is with Kirk Cousins, who might have the weakest arm in the league right now.
52:50He can still throw a good deep ball if he's not going to get pressured.
52:54And I think the O-line is pretty good to hold up on those play action concepts.
52:58It's not the Raiders offensive line of last year.
53:01Not saying, again, it's an elite unit, but viable offensive line.
53:04And I just want to see what it looks like with Brock Bowers, just to bring some more balance into the offense.
53:10And yeah, it's not, again, I'm not going to go like, this is going to be a surprise top 10 unit or anything like that.
53:17But I think Trey Tucker is a viable if you want to, I mean, I got to see what the flow is
53:23and the chemistry of everything with Brock Bowers in it, how much they get it.
53:27But in the preseason, there's two guys getting targets dialed up for him.
53:30It was Brock Bowers and Trey Tucker. So I don't think Trey Tucker is going to dip as much as maybe you'd expect.
53:37And I think Kirk Cousins, you know, is just going to be, you know, there's going to be some dependence on who
53:43he plays against and whether the pass rush can get home.
53:46But no, this is viable. The floor is a little bit higher and I'm still buying Gentee.
53:50They're dialing up pass plays to Gentee, like screens and gimmies to him as well.
53:54Encouraging too. So even outside the run game, they're trying to find him targets.
53:58He dropped a check down on another one. And then they've tried to dial up some screens for him as well.
54:04So again, it's not a like, oh my God, run game is not going, he's dead.
54:09They're still trying to find ways to get him the ball because he is so dynamic.
54:13So encouraging stuff. I'm not going to say great, but it's encouraging that it's viable.
54:17I think that's the right way to say it.
54:19It's encouraging that it's viable. They've done some cool stuff with the fullback to then use that as a create some space for Ashton Gentee as a receiver.
54:27That's been fun to watch. And yeah, there's just a lot of good floor setting things here.
54:32Like we say, they're jumping from 31st to 22nd.
54:34That's called establishing a floor. And I do think like you can tell yourself a story that whenever Mendoza gets in there, the ceiling raises up.
54:41Whenever Brock Bowers, the ceiling raises up. You know, again, offensive line continues to gel.
54:46While Gentee gets further and further away from an ankle sprain of some degree in the preseason, it can get better and better here.
54:52So yeah, it's like we kind of know what this ecosystem will look like.
54:56And it's been good so far. I'm definitely positive on most things Raiders here at this point.
55:01I'm not positive on the team that they played in week two, which is the Los Angeles Chargers.
55:06The Chargers right now, if you want to talk about the offensive efficiency metrics, my God, Nate, it's a horror show.
55:11They're 30th in the league ahead of only the abhorrent Pittsburgh Steelers offense and the zombie Falcons team that you've mentioned here several times.
55:18So that's where we're at with the Chargers. Chargers have been banned on football.
55:22301 tough scene. What's gone wrong and how and can it get better?
55:25Can I guess that's the question? Like, we know, actually, we pretty much know what's gone wrong.
55:30Everything's gone wrong. Can it get better from here?
55:33It can't. And that's the thing. I'm not totally out on the offense.
55:36They're not going to be a top five offense like I was hopefully going to be.
55:41But it's not going to be as bad as this is.
55:44But I know and I'm aware of the schedule and everything, but it is the NFL.
55:48But they're 31st in penalties per offensive snap right now.
55:51They are 30th in turnover EPA lost right now.
55:53Like, they are just, like, shooting themselves in the foot.
55:56Drops, I'm sure they're high up there. I don't have the rates right now.
56:00They're 32nd in pressure rate allowed. They have the 30th longest distance to go on third down.
56:04So it's been really tough sledding for this team right now.
56:07And then when it does go well, you got teammates committing PBUs on each other.
56:12You got David Njoku volleyball setting a ball into the air.
56:15You got Brendan Thompson dropping a wide open bootleg and on top of it running a comeback route on another one.
56:20They did get completed on. But he ran the route at the wrong depth and took a bad break on it.
56:26So, again, going to call out the receiver coach because they're poorly coached.
56:30Having said all that, well, actually, Charlie Clark is hurt now.
56:33David Njoku is hurt right now. So we got that going on as well.
56:37They're just making so many mistakes. And everyone's going to focus on the O-line.
56:40It's these auxiliary blockers that I was so high on are making mistakes.
56:44They're going to the wrong guy. Alec Ingold, who's been in this offense for like four years, is like making mistakes.
56:50And I know, like, why am I bringing up a fullback on Fantasy Show?
56:54He's very important because he's at the point of attack on a lot of blocking plays.
56:58Even just the Gadsden touchdown. So, like, this is why I'm just pulling my hair out with them is that that play was a funky design.
57:05They bootlegged towards Max Crosby. And so what I'm saying there is they're leaving him unblocked.
57:10That is the worst freaking thing you can do against an elite pass rusher because those guys absolutely wreck your play.
57:15And then Justin Herbert bobbed and weaved and made the throw.
57:18So, but it's a lot of these things where I'm just like, what are you guys focusing on?
57:23They're poorly coached as far as the skill guys with the details right now.
57:27And I'm saying all that because that means I do think there's going to be growth going upwards as they maybe just kind of like feel embarrassed.
57:35Hopefully, I think. And again, when I watch it back on film, it's like, well, if they catch those two balls or
57:41if they catch those three balls, yeah, it's going to look a little better.
57:44If they're not getting those penalties, it's going to get a little better.
57:48But again, have to see it before I kind of like fully get on board.
57:52So it's like, yeah, it's frustrating. I do think it's going to get a little bit better.
57:57They're figuring out the runs for Hampton. I can tell that.
58:00They're trying to, you know, he's not a zone runner.
58:03I think they're realizing that too. So they're trying to get more pullers on stuff.
58:07And I can see that kind of clicking for him, but he can't fumble.
58:11So, you know, he's had some great moments, but then he can't fumble.
58:14So again, I do think there's room for growth.
58:17We had like six fumbles in the last game.
58:19It's just those missed assignments in the blocking game, the drops, the fumbles.
58:23Those are the things that can't. Yeah. Penalties, like all that stuff can get corrected.
58:27It's very frustrating that we're talking about a Jim Harbaugh team and these, you know, these dumb mistakes when he should be,
58:33you know, the football guy, like we're smart or what?
58:36It's they're like a, they're, they're a dumb team right now.
58:39And you can just, when you're professional football players, you'd think you could flip that around and, you know, professional coaches.
58:44So we'll see if that can happen. But I mean, that's been the biggest problem right now.
58:49I will say from a fantasy standpoint, your notes about Hampton are really good.
58:53I think we, I mean, we saw Mike McDaniel late in the final season of Miami start to get to more pullers
58:59and gap based concepts, which is just like, that's what Hampton does better.
59:02Um, overall. So I'd like to see more of that.
59:05I think that, you know, Hampton's definitely, I think Hampton's probably going to not meet his highest expectations from a fantasy standpoint,
59:11just because the offense is not going to be as good as we thought.
59:15But I think he won't be an outright bust.
59:18You know, he's running back 18 right now in fantasy.
59:20I can see him getting up to, you know, maybe a 12 or a 13 type.
59:25And then like Lad McConkie, they just have to have Lad healthy that period.
59:29They're a top seven offense in EPA per play from JJ Zachary.
59:32And he had this set. There's top seven offense by EPA per play.
59:35When he's on the field, they're a bottom two team better than only the Falcons when he's off the field.
59:41Embarrassing. So it's just, he's, he's gotta be healthy.
59:43That was the whole theory of the case here is that, you know, could he be this year's Jackson Smith and Jigba?
59:49He has been incredibly efficient when he's been on the field.
59:52He just, when he's off, imagine the Seahawks, if they didn't have JSN, they would be screwed.
59:57They'd be screwed. They'd be screwed. And Lad McConkie is like a poor man's version of that.
60:02And so when he's not on the field, they're screwed.
60:05You know, Quentin Johnson will have a good game at some point, but he hasn't had good games to start.
60:10The other supporting actors, you know, it's just, they are what they are.
60:14So I think that's the, to make a really complicated situation simple.
60:17I think that's how we wrap the Chargers section.
60:19Yeah. They're even on early downs. And this is why I still have some optimism.
60:24Cause I thought the run game would be cool with Hampton and all this.
60:27Cause I was like, all right, I'm not relying on Quentin Johnson, yada, yada.
60:31They're 12th and running back successor on early downs.
60:34So there's still some encouraging signs there. It's like, it's, it's close to like being not embarrassing.
60:38And there's, it's not just me going like, Oh, trust me on the eye test.
60:42It's like, there's still some positive signs there. It's just, they got to get out of their own way.
60:48Again, they can't just be shooting themselves in the foot with turnovers and penalties on early downs and just putting themselves in bad situations.
60:54But so that's the, I agree with you that I think, I don't think Hampton could be the surprise.
61:00Okay. He's going to be the top four back elite one carrying your team, but I still think he's going to be
61:06very viable and fancy as they kind of figure out the game.
61:09Last thing we want to give a quick shout out to here is the New York jets who have gone from 30th
61:15to 16th, very Carolina Panthers esque where they've gone from, you know, well, like even worse up to about average in the offensive efficiency metrics.
61:22And I mean, there's a lot to, there's a lot to like with this team.
61:26Shout out to Frank Reich. Like I was a doubter and we'll see if it lasts the whole season, but he's definitely
61:32thrown some cool, he's thrown some cool and, you know, downright wacky stuff out there at times.
61:37I know at one point he had the five tight ends on the field in week one, but even just the regular, he did it again.
61:44No one highlighted it because it was a mess of a play, but no, it was, no, he did it again, but
61:50he did, but he didn't do it. He did do it.
61:53He did try it. And I mean, like they're another team that's really highly concentrated right now.
61:57Garrett Wilson on the field for 90% of the dropbacks, 80 Mitchell on the field for 83%.
62:02You know, they've got the slot receiver, Isaiah Williams, who's replacing Omar Cooper.
62:06But for the most part, like the ball is going to Garrett Wilson, 80 Mitchell got 12 targets in week number two,
62:12you know, with 80 Mitchell getting 12 targets is always going to be a journey, but you know, that's a viable thing, especially against the lions this week.
62:19So Nate, uh, I I've enjoyed, I have enjoyed watching the jets offense.
62:23Uh, what are your notes on New York so far?
62:26I think Gino really likes 80 Mitchell really, really, really there's, there's a lot of like targets where I'm looking and I'm
62:32like, okay, he could come off that and he's staying on 80 Mitchell and whether that's cause it's eccentric or whatever, but
62:38that's, it's not a knock on Garrett Wilson. I just said, Garrett Wilson's got plenty of explosives already.
62:43It's more just like, wow. Okay. Maybe Mitchell might be as if you're in a deeper league and need, need a guy.
62:49Like, I think that's very, very real. Like he's got, I mean, he's got better first down per route, right?
62:54He's got the highest first down per route run on the team.
62:58Um, he's just over two yards per route run right now.
63:01Third downs are going to him, which is interesting to me.
63:04They've had, um, I've talked about this concept before a flood concept, which was like the sale route in the deep corner.
63:10He's getting the ball on that, which I think is interesting.
63:13So it's not, uh, Garrett Wilson's going to get his at times.
63:16It's kind of like a good thing that they can go to most Isaiah Williams is like a dirty work guy, but
63:22yeah, no Gino's chucking it to these guys and he's chucking it to both of them.
63:26And I, and 80 Mitchell's playing a lot more sound.
63:29Uh, it's not all perfect, but he's, he's had some drop.
63:32He already has a drop. Um, but it really has been some nice stuff going on with him and some, he's going to get targets every single week.
63:40Yeah. I got to take a look at him because he's always been one of these receivers that is super high in
63:46the separation metrics and the way I chart things.
63:48He's good against man press coverage, but he's been like a disaster against zone coverage because of just like the, yeah, it's,
63:55that's always been the bugaboo with him. Uh, so it's just like kind of a difference in how you chart things and what you're looking for.
64:02For me, uh, that's obviously how it plays out there.
64:04So I want to take a look at what he's done so far in that regard.
64:09Cause yeah, he's like, I still think even with criticisms in his game, he's a perfectly viable starting receiver for a team
64:15that desperately needs a guy to at least draw like on those sale concepts, the floods, draw some attention away from number
64:21five, because he's the guy that just like, everybody knows it's going to Garrett.
64:25It's going to Garrett. Uh, you, and he's been too easy to kind of get multiple eyes on like cloud his side of the field.
64:32You know, now this might like help them open things up.
64:35In addition to the fact that like they're playing all that heavy personnel, their heavy personnel plays are up from 29th to 16th.
64:41Uh, so far this year, like that's plays with multiple tight ends, you know, the whole deal.
64:46Um, again, uh, under center 25th to 15th motion is down, but play action is up 30th to 16th.
64:51So far this year from last year, a lot of play action.
64:54And you know, that's great. Like, this is the stuff that you want to see for efficient receiver play.
64:59As long as Gino can continue to hold down the job, like their offensive line, Arman Membu is awesome.
65:05Uh, awesome in the run in the past game, you know, like this is a good line for the most part.
65:10Like there's going to be, I think some sneaky value for this team in fantasy.
65:1480 Mitchell was probably, which is probably gonna be the sneaky one.
65:18And again, they're playing the lions this week. Like that's a carnival matchup right there.
65:22It is. That's the thing. And they're going to be chucking it.
65:25I think against them, Mike, that's the thing. They have at least enough in the run game.
65:30You know, Brees Hall's very talented and everything. I still think Braylon Allen is like a decent runner running back too, but it's like passing game wise.
65:37And then they have a bevy of tight ends, you know, a ton of them, but like Kenny on Sadiq is explosive.
65:43Mason Taylor is a nice inline guy that can do enough as a receiver.
65:47So they have the ability to pivot depending on the matchup, which I think is always just interesting for an offense.
65:53They are this year's bad team beater. Like I really do think that, you know, we've used that term, you know, but
65:59they are like they, if you're not on your P's and Q's, they're going to get you because they have enough run
66:05game and they have enough explosive passing game to like, all right, if we don't have a good corner, they can attack that.
66:11If we don't have linebackers, they got a couple, you know, a couple of tight ends that can attack.
66:17Well, this team can't stop the run. Well, they can get after you in the run game.
66:21So yeah, I think I'm, I'm with you that I think, I think they're gonna be chucking it against the lines and
66:27both guys who might be viable, both of those receivers that week.
66:31Yeah. It's going to be a little bit boomer bus because they've, they've gotten into a lot of gap runs too.
66:36And their gap runs are with Brees Hall. I think it's always gonna be like they're, they're a hunt big plays.
66:42I don't know that they're going to be, I mean, so far this year, I think they're 11th in rushing success rate.
66:48So there actually been a little bit more of a sustaining run game.
66:52But again, there's a lot, there's a lot to like here.
66:55And just like the brass tacks of it is the jets have historically been just a cross off team in fantasy through two weeks.
67:01They're at least not looking like a cross off team.
67:04They actually have some options that you can get pretty excited about here, which is, which is nice to say for the New York football jets.
67:11Okay. We are going to take our first quick break.
67:14We will talk about those teams trending down. We get to the Thursday night preview, but we do have to do the flex check.
67:21We will do that real quick on the other side of this break.
67:24We'll see you in a second. All right, we're back.
67:27And here is this week's flex fit check presented by verse.
67:30A great fantasy flex player does it all just like verse skies where build your lineup of versatile looks fit for whatever the week throws at you.
67:37And each week we take a look at five players on the flex borderline in our Yahoo rankings and tell you if
67:43they should start or sit based on their matchup.
67:46I'm going to be honest, Nate. Some of these names are very on the borderline, but you know what?
67:51That's where some people are with injury situations right now.
67:54Okay. And also talk about cross off teams. We have three teams with young quarterback injuries out there.
67:59Jackson dart done for the season. That's over. Jane Daniels.
68:02Who knows when he's going to be back? Caleb Williams is not going to play for the bears.
68:06They might start your boy case Keenum. Who's like your age and hasn't your boy case Keenum.
68:11I don't know. I actually wrote a case Keenum film breakdown on my original blog backyard banter in 2013.
68:16So that's how long case Keenum has been in our lives when he was starting as an undrafted free agent for the Houston Texans.
68:23Anyways, you're just like probably crossing off the bears because they're, they might play case Keenum and they they're playing the Eagles on Monday night.
68:30Not, not a great situation. So some people might have to make some questionable decisions in their fantasy football flexes and starting
68:36Tony Pollard, who's our first player here at the New York giants.
68:39That's always a questionable decision because, you know, frankly, the Tennessee Titans, they dunked on me last week as I made the,
68:45um, the, the bold prediction, the hail Mary prediction that they weren't going to score a point.
68:50And of course they took that interception back inside the red zones.
68:53Like, well, I'm already screwed. Okay. The Titans are going to, they're going to at least score a point here, which is fine.
68:59Came down the fourth down. Came down the fourth down though.
69:03You had hope there. I know I had, I did have a little more hope than I should have.
69:08But nevertheless, Nate, um, where are we at with this Titans offense?
69:11The run game to me, I just don't know if I can ever stomach the, the Pollard stuff, but he at least touched the ball a decent bit.
69:19What's the viability of anybody from this Titans offense right now?
69:22Uh, and no one, I want to start fancy.
69:24Um, you know, like even some of what happened against the Eagles, it was like third and longs where they've just missed a whole bunch of tackles.
69:32Um, giants are tackling better. Like, you know, if you're desperate, yes, I would say that cause they are going to run
69:38it enough, but just the offense still isn't like anything super encouraging outside some cam war cam war actually a nice game.
69:44I did think, um, and it really on third down, especially your, your guy, uh, a like animal, uh, standing out as
69:50a top receiver, apparently, uh, for this passing game.
69:52So like, honestly, how we have this projection right now is like exactly how it I expected Tony, every Tony Pollard game
69:58to be 10 to 14 carries 50 to 70 yards.
70:01I will say I do like the Titans online coach.
70:04And I do think the Titans offense aligned, the players are playing better than you'd expect.
70:08Um, like JC Latham's playing well, they had undrafted or undrafted a day three guard.
70:12That's actually playing decently, but that's not great. So, you know, any team that has a really good defensive front, it was
70:18going to give them issues, which should have been the Eagles.
70:21And they, it was kind of a back and forth.
70:24I would say in that game, they have a better suplex right now than the chargers.
70:28So, uh, you know, I'm bashing them. So, uh, we'll, we'll see how that goes out.
70:33But I just think I'm just kind of like not over the top with anything here.
70:37I just, it's more about real football, encouraging signs of process.
70:40And really, it's really to me with Titans, it's all about Cam Ward.
70:44It's like making sure he's the right guy and all that, as opposed to anything with fantasy viability.
70:49Yeah. Pollard is going to be somewhere between my running back 30 to 34 every single week.
70:53Um, it's not the worst matchup in the world, but yeah, you'd probably have to be in a tough spot because he's
71:00splitting the backfield with Tajay Spears, like Nick Singleton, even got 14% of the touches in week two.
71:04Uh, you can't really split this backfield three ways and expect Pollard to be somebody on the flex line.
71:10Uh, a player I actually have ranked ahead of Tony Pollard this week at the running back position is Blake Corum for
71:16the Los Angeles Rams are going into Denver this week.
71:18Um, Corum looked awesome on Monday night. I mean, it's still going to be the Karen Williams show.
71:23He can fumble it 20 times. Doesn't matter. They're just going to keep going back to him.
71:28Um, but Nate, I do think the Broncos run defense curious to get your thoughts on this.
71:33Like obviously week one, not great against Kenneth Walker.
71:35They missed every single tackle you possibly could have week two.
71:38I thought it was a little bit better, but facial toot and still had a couple of explosive runs.
71:44And when you look at Blake Corum, like he's an explosive run guy.
71:47So again, it's, it's very volatile with the Corum type, but certainly if you're in a tough spot, I think maybe he's on that, that, that borderline.
71:54Um, yeah, I do. I agree. I still think it's a, um, two series, one series kind of split, but then also
72:01like, Hey, if Kyron's going to fumble again, like, okay, we'll take them off and maybe get more heat there.
72:06And also the thing was with Kyron and I'm not trying to like jinx anything right here is that he has been
72:12susceptible to getting banged up and he's held off.
72:15Like that's always just one of those things. He's not the biggest guy.
72:18Um, so you never know when Corum's going to be viable.
72:21And I think that more long-term throughout the season, but no, I think he's very viable this week.
72:26I, and they have enough on defense to give issues to the Broncos so it can be a run heavy game script.
72:32Um, but this team is second in suplex rate, like a rushing suplex rate.
72:36I'm sorry. This offense is good. You know, it's a good offense.
72:39They're going to get a lot of juicy touches.
72:42He's going to get touches in the red zone.
72:44He might get some, uh, like the Kyron Williams touchdown was a designer for him, but Corum might get some of these
72:50screens that Sean McVay likes to call in the red zone.
72:53So there's that there's like, yeah, it says one reception for four yards.
72:57That's just projection, everything. It might be that one reception though, it was like at the 12 yard line, he gets a
73:03screen and gets a touchdown off of that. So it's like, it's not a wasted reception, I guess is the good way
73:09to put it, but no, they're going to run the ball.
73:12And I think you can run the ball against this Ravens defense that it's boom bust.
73:16It seems like against the run for them. Um, they, they do a lot of slanting and everything.
73:21Maybe John Franklin Myers was very important for them to stop the run, but you can get after this defense enough.
73:27Um, especially I think what the, what the Rams have.
73:30Okay. Next one here, Denzel Boston versus the Carolina Panthers.
73:33I mean, listen, I, I, I was a Boston guy.
73:35Um, the one I'm, uh, the person I'm speaking to here, uh, on the show might have been the only one who's maybe bigger Denzel Boston guy.
73:43I know a lot of people like Denzel Boston, but man, you gotta be pretty pleased with what you've seen from him so far in the NFL.
73:50So, and he said he had training camp hype too, which is so you're just putting the pieces together.
73:55Yep. Yep. And it just continued and they want to get him touches.
73:59They want to get him routes. He's getting like number one target routes as far as like, okay, that's viable that Deshaun
74:05Watson for even with his qualms is throwing a back shoulders, throwing them fades in the end zone.
74:10So he's getting those big opportunities. And then he's turning in 15 yard gains into touchdowns because he has that build to
74:16break attack over the intermediate part of the field and take it to the house.
74:20So no, that's, it's real. Um, you know, and that's not to say anything.
74:24I think Casey conception was going to be something down the road, but right now in week three, like this is their number one.
74:31Um, and it feels like they're passing tech is Deshaun Watson will favor more outside throws.
74:35I just mentioned the end breaker, but he will favor more outside throws.
74:39That's fine with Denzel Boston. Cause he's getting those fades.
74:41He's getting those stops. He's getting those ISO ball moments again, Todd Monk in coach, Mike Evans is not like a true X is not foreign to him.
74:49And I, I know somebody compared him to Mike Evans.
74:52I can't remember who, um, it might've been talking.
74:54I don't know. I don't know. Oh no. It was you, Matt all the way back in the super bowl, super bowl.
75:00You were dropping that comparison. Yeah. So, you know, it's, I think he's at the very least a flex guy.
75:06If you have them, especially a matchup like the Panthers that you can still get after this defense and not like it
75:12was Cooper rush, you know, you remember what they, what the, what the bears were doing, you know, it's, you can get
75:18after, you can get after this defense, uh, this Panthers defense.
75:21So a couple of things here. One, we talked about this earlier where like Mike Evans, Baker Mayfield on the out routes, uh, Boston.
75:27Yeah. He had the big post. Everybody forgot how to tackle.
75:30He ran it in there. He also could have had the go route touchdown that he let slip through his hands.
75:36The very last minute could even been a bigger day, but him and, uh, Watson also connected on three out routes in
75:42this game against, uh, the Buccaneers as well. And like, again, the bucks defense stinks, but at the same time, like these were really all three of them.
75:50Uh, I clipped them on my film burner account.
75:52Uh, you know, so the three out routes, they're all really well-timed.
75:56The breaks are crisp. It's crazy to me, Nate, that people thought this guy couldn't separate.
76:00Like he's already separating at the NFL level while playing 98% of his snaps on ball in week two.
76:05Like he's doing real deal, big boy X receiver, uh, stuff.
76:08Very impressive. The one note I would say about this week, I still think he is a flex play, probably volatile.
76:14It's always going to be that way. It's the Browns, you know, they're not projected for a lot of points.
76:20You bring up the bears matchup from week one.
76:22They're actually, I think this could be like Casey Concepcion's breakout game and he's cause he's gotten a lot of targets, a
76:28lot of catches, but think about how like the bears attacked this Panthers team where it's a lot of the quick hitters.
76:34Uh, you know, it's the stuff underneath. You don't necessarily want to throw into the teeth of like JC Horn and Mike Jackson who are good players.
76:42That doesn't mean again, they can, they did this like with quick hitters to Boston primarily on the outs, but in breakers, the Kalief Raymond dish stuff.
76:49That's what you're typically going to see from Casey.
76:51So I actually wouldn't be surprised if this is Casey's breakout week, but that doesn't mean that you can't kind of chase the big plays with Denzel Boston.
76:59No one will ever think this, but right now Denzel Boston has the exact same average speed on his routes.
77:05According to next gen stats is Garrett Wilson. It's faster than Antonio Williams.
77:08It's faster than a lot of other guys. They have the same exact top speed 20.48 miles per hour.
77:13And this is just overall. Uh, so it is, he has a 30, he's already broke 20 miles an hour on his routes twice.
77:20Like, which if I look up right now, I could pull up how many guys have multiple so far.
77:25And there's not a lot that is only Diami Brown has three, but CD lamb has two Devante Smith has two Garrett Wilson, Christian Watson guys.
77:32You think Parker Washington, um, guys that you think have two or more Matthew golden.
77:37There's Denzel Boston right up there with a lot of speedsters, Matthew golden and Denzel Boston are running the same speed and
77:43Denzel Boston's six, three, 215 pounds and has shown that he can catch stuff over the middle.
77:47It's like, yeah, no, this is eye test underlying stats metrics, you know, speed metrics.
77:51It's like all systems go with Denzel Boston. Love it.
77:54Great shot though. Cause you can attack the slot against Panthers too, too.
77:58Like you can attack the middle. So that's actually a great shot too, by the way.
78:02Maybe Sean can actually have two good games in a row for the first time in six years.
78:07Um, probably not, but we'll see a stressy in the YouTube chat asked us Denzel Boston or Devon Valey for a flex spot this week.
78:14Full PPR. Here's how I would think about this.
78:16Both these guys are on the field all the time.
78:19Boston, 96% of the routes, uh, uh, Devon Valey, 93% of the routes.
78:23They're both good. Very different. I think Boston, obviously long-term higher ceiling for sure.
78:27He's probably more your volatile play full PPR though.
78:29Like the saints are going to score more points this week against the Raiders than the Panther.
78:34And then the Browns are against the Panthers. I would probably go with Valey, especially full PPR.
78:38You're getting on base, but two really good options.
78:41Uh, I do think Boston, you can chase big plays on that one.
78:44Two more to talk about here really quickly. Nate Xavier worthy at the Miami dolphins.
78:49He's getting design touches. The offense is back. The chiefs are back, but is it enough to chase worthy?
78:54I still think very much like there's not that much boom.
78:57There is some risk. I will probably have worthy in the forties, uh, simply because look, this is a team that's going
79:03to be projected to score a bunch of points in Miami or again.
79:06Yeah. In Miami are the Kansas city chiefs. So that's kind of how I'm thinking of worthy from a fantasy standpoint, but
79:12I know you've got to like what you've seen from this chiefs offense so far.
79:17Oh yeah. And it's, it's real. Like, again, it might be fancy frustrating.
79:20Figure out what receiver is. Rasheed Rice actually looks pretty good.
79:23Travis Kelsey is running the fastest he's run on his routes in like four, four years.
79:28Um, I don't know if you saw my two.
79:30Yeah. My, my research on that. It's my Sunday night research where, yeah, he gets engaged and also he loses some weight fast again.
79:37He is a wedding shape. Oh, I know. I look at my, I have a wedding picture around here and I look at it every single day.
79:44Like, ha ha, those were the days. Um, but no, I, I really do think like Kelsey's viable, very viable.
79:50Rasheed Rice. I do think is viable worthy. I'm just, I'm always so low on him, but he's so boom bust to me and the boom.
79:57I don't think it's worth chasing. Like I'd rather almost chase Taequann Thornton than Xavier worthy.
80:01Just because of the, what we saw on Sunday night and I'm saying, I'm not saying start Taequann Thornton this year.
80:07We got, I'm not saying that, but he's always just going to be a guy I'm super low on because I just, I just don't trust him either.
80:15He has bad drops and some of the designer touches he doesn't take the most advantage of.
80:19And so, yeah, he's a frustrating player to me, but yeah, the run game is real.
80:24And I would say, I would encourage people to, you know, I'm sure they already do, but Emma Johnson is real as well.
80:30The backup runner. Oh yeah. When Kenneth Walker, like it's very, this offense is real.
80:34Like it's, it's, it's looking good. Once you get into the range of receivers where worthy is going to be ranked.
80:40Like I said, in the, in the deeper forties, you're basically looking at like, who's got a good odds to find his way into the end zone.
80:47He is attached to Kansas city chiefs offense and they're going to, they're going to beat the brakes off the dolphins and
80:53they do enough like designery nonsense around the goal line that worthy could sneak his way.
80:58So like, if you're weighing him versus, I don't know, Carnell Tate or something like that, like go, just go as Xavier worthy in that, in that situation.
81:05Cause they're actually going to score points. Trey Tucker versus Xavier worthy.
81:09Like that's more of a tougher call to me.
81:11I think I'd probably actually end up going with Trey Tucker there.
81:14Last one, Dalton Schultz at the Indianapolis Colts. I mean, if Nico Collins sits, the Dalton Schultz scam is on Nate Tice.
81:20That's, that's how it's going to go. I actually want to just, where are you at this Texans offense and CJ Stroud?
81:26Cause I do think Schultz is viable as even like a flex play with, if Nico Collins sits, there's actually a decent
81:33bit of tight ends that look like solid flex plays at this point, just because like they're on the field, a bunch
81:39and Dalton Schultz is on the field. A bunch.
81:41And they're getting this, what used to be the slot targets.
81:44They're getting that's kind of underneath routes for him.
81:47Um, no, I, I'm actually encouraged by the passing game.
81:49I thought, I think CJ Stroud is playing good ball.
81:52He's being aggressive. He's stepping up in the pocket, which is what I wanted to see him do because he started developing
81:58a habit of bailing back, um, and trusting his arm, but now he's stepping up and scrambling.
82:03So I'm, I'm like, I, you can, I was in, uh, again on Tuesday or yesterday on football three Oh one.
82:09We talked about the Texans kind of like, I still am buying them.
82:12Um, you know, even their defense was playing better than people realize.
82:15Like they held Joe Burrow to his second lowest drop back success rate of his entire career.
82:20He just extended plays and Dave Jamar chase and T Higgins.
82:23And they just, they just got dunked on. It happens.
82:26But no, I think the offensive passing game, I'm encouraged.
82:29They have to figure out. They used a lot of 11 last week, which is weird because I thought with all the
82:35injuries, they'd go more tight ends and what the bangles are.
82:38So no passing game wise, still very encouraged. Really excited to see Nico back in this run game.
82:43They have to figure out what they are. They're a bad zone running team.
82:46I've tweeted this. I've talked about this, but they got to do away with the zone runs and they just got to do man and gap blocks.
82:54Um, and I think they will, because I think they're going to be aware of that because it's just so stark, um,
83:00about what, like how bad it's been. Um, so I'm trying to find the exact stat, but they're much better running gap
83:06and, uh, uh, pullers and using duo. And I think they want to lean into that run game wise, but passing game was encouraged, pretty encouraged.
83:13Good to hear. Uh, we certainly need some, uh, good viability from this team right now.
83:17Yeah. Gap percentage wise, uh, success rate. They're definitely higher are the Houston Texans.
83:21Uh, they're sixth in gap success, right? They're 32nd in zone success rate, uh, according to the numbers I have here.
83:27So yeah, definitely. Yeah. I found it right here.
83:30They are, they have a 35% success, this next gen stats, 35% success rate on gap man runs.
83:35That's pretty good. I think. Uh, and then, but zone runs, they're at 16%.
83:38So let's do away. Let's do away with the zone runs.
83:41You're got your big burly offensive linemen are built for zone.
83:44So let's just stick with us. Stick with the man and gap runs.
83:48All right. Those are your five flex players to consider this week.
83:51We're going to take our last break. When we come back, we're talking Thursday night football.
83:56We'll get into that right after this. All right, we're back.
83:59We've got Thursday night football Falcons at Packers. Packers are six and a half point home favorites, 43 and a half point total on this one.
84:06Uh, five point total, uh, or five point spread.
84:08It looks like who's, who's, who's, uh, who's betting on the Falcons on this one.
84:12Interesting takeaway right there. Uh, okay. Michael Penix is family.
84:15Well, you said, you said the name, Michael Penix, the, the, the man of the hour here, as mentioned earlier in the
84:21show, this is one of the, these are both teams actually trending down from an offensive efficiency standpoint, as you might imagine
84:27a lot going on, on green bay Falcon side of things.
84:30Of course it's the quarterback situation. I mean, Cooper rush is the ultimate, like I became important at work and it ruined my life.
84:37Uh, player. He didn't, he, he did not sign up for this.
84:40Okay. And now he's out of the mix. Uh, somebody came in there with your, with a sign for your boy, Jack
84:46strand through a pick six right away. We're, we're, we're back to Michael Penix.
84:50Okay. So Nate, I think the way to start out this discussion is, is fixing the Falcons offense, not the franchise, not
84:56the team, but fixing the Falcons offense as simple as we put Michael Penix back in there and everything is okay for guys like Drake London and B.
85:04John Robinson and Kyle pits, or are the, is the rot a little deeper than that?
85:08The rots a little deeper than that. And even with Penix who already didn't move well is now coming off the ACL
85:14that he's really hesitant, really hesitant to come back.
85:17Have you noticed that to a star practicing? Yeah.
85:19I've noticed. Thanks to appreciate you, bud. We could have used the last couple of weeks, but, but yeah, thanks.
85:25You're really helping us out here. Um, you know, the, the God, it's just like even passing game wise, that's exactly the
85:31issues we thought there's not a lot of secondary receivers outside Drake London.
85:34Uh, offensive line looks like it actually, it's not bad, but it regressed definitely a little bit.
85:39Um, with some of the stuff, especially in past protection, they had some issues picking up blitzes, which actually is interesting because
85:45this game, the Packers, Jonathan Gannon, um, I looked this up is blitzing at the highest rates of his career.
85:51They're like, he only called plays with the Eagles.
85:53He's, I think he called plays 30 X amount of times, 30 something times in his game, in two of the high
85:59six highest blitz rates he's ever had as a play caller was last week against the jets was the second highest.
86:05And the six highest was week one against the Vikings.
86:08So he's blitzing a ton. And actually the Packers defense is actually pretty decent.
86:11Um, way better than I thought. And, but what they're susceptible to is outside targets.
86:16All right. Well, Drake landed on the outside. Are we going to do that?
86:19Michael Panks likes to throw it to the outside.
86:22Like, so maybe we get some of that, but I just think this team is pretty bad right now because even their
86:28defense just doesn't have a lot of horses. AJ Terrell's out on top of that as well.
86:33So it's just kind of a zombie team right now.
86:35And Pennix doesn't have the play style I'd want to see against this defense.
86:39I would want a guy moving around, staying aggressive over the middle.
86:42Cause I think that's where you can attack it.
86:45Maybe some outside stuff, but it's like, he's not going to really do that.
86:49So that, and it's a short week for the whole team, not for him.
86:53Cause he's had some rest. Um, but it's a short week for that.
86:56So prep wise, it's going to be a little different too.
86:59Maybe they gave him the, they prepared before that.
87:02So I'm just kind of like a little pessimistic about how this will look, um, overall, because just his movements has always been an issue.
87:09And I think it might be even more of an issue as he's coming back from again, from another knee injury.
87:14Yeah. God. Other than that, how was the play Mrs.
87:17Lincoln? Yeah. So let's just say, I was not Mrs.
87:20Lincoln. How was the play? Uh, yeah. So where do we, where do we go from here?
87:24Okay. Okay. Here, here's, here's what I will say.
87:27Well, let me, let me just before, before you go full sicko mode, let me at least just say about Drake London.
87:33Um, when you, when you look at the, the last few years, like he has been very, very productive with Michael Penix on the field.
87:40Uh, like he, especially last season when Penix was on the field, he was really good.
87:44But since Penix got in the NFL 2.98 yards per route, uh, for, for Drake London, 33.5% targets per route.
87:50I mean, he will just, that's about it though.
87:52Nobody else really does anything. Uh, when you look at the, the, the production with Michael Penix and I mean, look where
87:58nobody's counting on John Dotson, other than like my sicko dreams.
88:01No one's counting on John Dotson, Kyle pits might still be in trouble.
88:051.2 yards per route with Michael Penix. He's never just consistent.
88:08Like he's never consistently got him the football. Really?
88:10It's been the Drake London show 80 catches for 1114 or 1147, eight touchdowns on 129 targets, 35% target share, 35% target
88:16share with Michael Penix to Drake London. So there is that like, he's been very productive.
88:21Um, what version of Michael Penix is this? I don't know when you mentioned like the out or the, the outside routes,
88:27I do think where Penix and London have had their best connection is on those big out cuts from the slot, especially, or as the condensed X.
88:34And at least last week we saw Drake London get into the slot for 42% of his passing plays.
88:39So again, if you were trying to paint the narrative for cope and hope with Drake London, the history does at least
88:46back you up with Penix being productive, uh, for, for Drake London here.
88:49God. Yeah. I know. I was just even looking at it as like year by year numbers.
88:54It's like gone from like a 29% target share to 21%.
88:57It's like, where's the ball going? Who else are you throwing into the door?
89:01It's going into the building everything out of this.
89:03It is. Oh, I know it was rough. I watched that game back.
89:07It was rough. Um, no, but it's, that's why I'm just, I agree with everything you say.
89:11That's the one way to attack this Packers defense.
89:14The outside corners aren't great. Do they have the creativity to get there?
89:17Is Penix going to be confident there is accuracy can be an issue.
89:21Think it's very boom bust as opposed to a peppering of PPR.
89:24You know, I don't think there's going to be that heavy receptions.
89:28It's going to be more chunky. So what you're saying with the out routes, that's, that's just how I envision it.
89:33Um, that's how I just picture how they're going to go against this defense as well.
89:38And again, it's, I'm curious how they're going to handle blitzes.
89:41Cause Jonathan Gannon's dialing up some interesting stuff and Penix doesn't handle that.
89:44And it turns him even more into a boom bust quarterback, not a peppering hot route kind of quarterback.
89:50So yeah, it might be Drake London, like three catches, 70 something yards, maybe a touchdown off of that.
89:55I know it's not really pessimistic about it, but it's, it's just that he's not really the play style I want to see right now.
90:02I mean, it, it is what it is. There's no really way to get all that excited about it.
90:07Uh, in terms of, uh, rushing numbers, uh, 15th and rushing success rate are the Falcons so far, which actually kind of
90:13is a miracle considering how bad the team has been.
90:16Um, 12th best stuff rate. Uh, yeah, I mean, look, uh, seventh and yards after contact, uh, B John's awesome.
90:21B John 20% targets per route with Michael Penix.
90:24I, there's enough that you can play these guys.
90:26I think this week, like you can play Michael Penix, you can play B John Robinson.
90:30That's great. On the other side of it. I mean, pretty much the Packers have become a three man show too.
90:36Um, with Jordan love, Matthew golden, Christian Watson. Those guys are both in the top 20, uh, Watson and golden in targets per route.
90:43Golden's been impressive to me. Watson obviously is really good.
90:46Um, your boy, Tucker, our boy, Tucker craft. Like we love Tucker craft.
90:49This is one of the most pro Tucker craft podcasts out there.
90:52I'm a little nervous that they're talking about like, uh, was Dan Graziano had the report that they wanted to like maybe play on the offensive line.
91:00Cause that's all banged up there. There are on the offensive line.
91:03That part is probably, you know, Zach's way, like being out for the season, you know, is Tucker craft going to block more.
91:09That makes me a little nervous about craft. He's probably still like eventually going to get it going from a fantasy standpoint.
91:16But like, we know what the, like the Packers are very much a boom bust offense now at this point, Nate.
91:21Yep. Yep. And also it's the bike, but also they're going against this Falcon defense without AJ Terrell.
91:26Uh, you know, so it's, it's, I do think it's, they're going to be a more pass heavy.
91:31I think what they've used with Josh Jacobs is that that run game is a jab.
91:36It wasn't very explosive, but it was setting them up for a lot of third and shorts.
91:40And then Jordan love would work his magic. That was their formula.
91:44Their formula is totally different. Now the formula is that we're going to use the past to set up the past.
91:49And then we sprinkle on some rods. Caleb Johnson though, uh, is alive.
91:53Uh, and again, I, I, I watched those plays back and I watched this game back right before we did the show.
91:59And it's like, you know, he's not the sexiest runner, but there's some, there's some stuff for him.
92:04It's better. It's a better offense for his running style than, uh, you know, who else they have in their Marshawn Lloyd and Brooks.
92:10It's over for Marshawn Lloyd. Yeah. Yeah. He's missing too much.
92:14It's over for Marshawn Lloyd. And they're, they tried to get Caleb Johnson going to your point.
92:18Like he's a better get on base runner. I know you have a prop on, on Caleb Johnson.
92:23So let's, let's hear your, your props before we close it out here.
92:27Yep. Caleb Johnson, anytime TD score. I think this Falcons, uh, uh, uh, defense is very getable.
92:31I love this. I think you can run on them and I think you can throw on them.
92:36So, and now that AJ Terrell's out, I can think you can throw on them even more.
92:41Uh, and so maybe it turns into a blitz fest.
92:44So there might be a screen in there. That's how, um, was it Lloyd that scored his touch?
92:49And the Packers score a touchdown on a running back screen.
92:52That was really nice. Uh, and again, so that's viable.
92:54So he might be in within 10 year line.
92:57I think that he's going to get a decent amount of touches in this game, especially if they can build a lead.
93:03So anytime touchdown score, Caleb Johnson at plus one 95, Christian Watson, 75 yards or more at plus one 10, uh, because
93:09I do think there's going to be some chunks available.
93:12Just like we talked about Tetravo McGill and the general Coker Christian, Christian Watson is that archetype.
93:16There's throws available over the middle. There's throws available to the outside.
93:20Just a couple of chunks. Maybe he rips one off.
93:22He looks great right now. Uh, I, he looks great.
93:25And I'd rather kind of just wager on him than golden who they are getting going and they're expanding his role.
93:31Um, but again, I was just like Watson. I kind of trust more at this point in time, but no golden, he
93:37had a drop early, but you can tell they're asking him to do more real things.
93:41Um, and then I did have Bajon Robinson 50 or more yards receiving.
93:45Cause I can see Penix going touchdown to check down.
93:48I can see them running screens against that check.
93:50Those, uh, blitzes that Gann's going to be running also just kind of like, Hey, let's get Penix going a little bit.
93:56So 50 yards receiving. And I could see maybe they'd lose the game script and then, all right, we've got to check it down.
94:03Check it down to Bajon. All right. Okay. Maybe he can turn one to something.
94:07So, and then my real sicko one, the real sicko one.
94:10And this is one of my favorite angles. Always Mark Redman who, but Mark Redman, the backup tight end for the Packers
94:16that they are giving a ton of reps to and really having him at the point of attack and blocking.
94:22They finally set them up for a little play action in the red zone.
94:25First TD score plus 6,600. If you really just want to pull up $10 on there, have a little fun, $20 on there.
94:32Have a little fun. They are giving him a ton of reps.
94:35This is an offense. Again, I think Jane reads out.
94:38So, okay. We might lean into 12. Tucker craft's a good blocker.
94:41Redman's a good blocker, but we always, you know, and I could see them setting up finally.
94:46Hey, we get them a target here on a play action or something in the low red zone.
94:51So real sicko one, Mark Redman, first TD score plus 6,600.
94:54I'm already going bombs now. That's, that's a, yeah, I did two, two TDs.
94:58Josh Allen last week hit that one. I hit nothing else on this prop section.
95:02So we're just going bombs away now. Listen, you started sick with Caleb Johnson.
95:05Anytime touchdown, you, you ended sickest with the Mark Redman first touchdown score.
95:09So that's why we love you, Nate. And yeah, it's going to be a really fascinating game to watch.
95:14We do need to learn a lot about the Falcons offense.
95:17And I do think the Packers man, like heavy personnel, explosive routes to Christian Watson.
95:21They're set up well to take advantage of a lot of what Carolina did in week number two.
95:26So I think the Packers will be in for a pretty good fantasy outing here in this one.
95:31Okay. That is going to do it for this show here today.
95:35Nate Tice. Absolutely fantastic. This was a really fun one.
95:37We took a deep look at some of these offenses.
95:40I love doing this stuff. So absolutely fantastic. This show will be back tomorrow.
95:44However, bad news or maybe good news, depending on how you feel about me.
95:48I'm not going to be here. Justin Boone is going to be back.
95:51He's going to be hosting the show. He's going to be filling in for me with Josh Norris on the week three preview.
95:58I will also not be a part of the recap show as well on Sunday.
96:02However, I probably will be joining you guys for the solo Sunday night football recap.
96:06Listen, I love this show. I want to be on the show all the time.
96:10One of my wife's best friends is getting married this weekend.
96:13So, you know, she's in the wedding. There's no I got to I got to be there.
96:18All right. So not going to be part of the preview.
96:21Not going to be part of the recap. But I should be back in time for the sicko solo Sunday night recap.
96:27So I will see you all then. But be here tomorrow 4 p.m.
96:30Eastern with Josh and Boone. If you're not, you hurt my feelings.
96:34Okay. So there you go. That is all for us.
96:36We will see you then be here tomorrow. Until then, we are out.