0:00Big show for you here today. It is the Week 2 Recap Show.
0:04Man, Week 2 was a doozy. A lot of things we saw in Week 1 proved to be mirages.
0:10Or were they? What is the truth? That's what we try to talk about here on the Week 2 Recap Show.
0:16We get into the solo Sunday Night Football breakdown with me, Chiefs, Colts.
0:20What an exciting football game. Really fun one. Learned a lot about both of those two teams.
0:25The Chiefs continue to impress on offense. Kenneth Walker's the man.
0:28Patrick Mahomes just quietly. You know, goes on and has a monster game on Sunday night as a lot of pieces of that offense are coming together.
0:36Colts, not so much, particularly the Alec Pierce injury.
0:39However, they do have some really good players there who did shine, particularly my guy Josh Downs.
0:44Yes, that's right. Big night for Josh Downs. We are going to talk about that.
0:48Then, Josh Norris, Hayden Winks, Ray Garvin, and I go through the full Week 2 Sunday slate breakdown.
0:54Everything you need to know for every game that happened.
0:57Big takeaways. Future adjustments. Tons to get into all that and more cut up on today's show.
1:02Let's get into it. What's going on, everyone? I'm Matt Harmon.
1:05Welcome to the Yahoo Fantasy Forecast, and it is a hell of a night to talk ball here.
1:10We've got the solo Sunday Night Football recap. Man, what a game.
1:14Chiefs 33, Colts 30 after an overtime performance that ended in a way that I got to believe that 99.99% of human
1:20beings inside Arrowhead Stadium tonight knew exactly how it was going to end when the Colts decided to kick a field goal
1:27to tie the game with just over three minutes left in the proceedings.
1:31Patrick Mahomes marches the Chiefs down the field, ultimately for a Harrison Butker kick to win the game in overtime.
1:37Unfortunately, the 0.01% math is really easy here at midnight on a Sunday.
1:41The only people who didn't believe that were the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts.
1:45So that was a bummer there. Didn't love that decision by Shane Steichen to kind of like they got up to the line, didn't get Collinsworth the same.
1:53They didn't get the defensive look that they wanted.
1:56Had they gotten more of a blitz look at the line of scrimmage, they probably would have taken a shot.
2:02They probably would have gone for it on fourth and eight to win the football game.
2:07I don't really like how they handled anything there at the end after Laquan Treadwell caught one of the most.
2:13I mean, it's a it's a freaking like journey that Laquan Treadwell is getting a significant playing time for the Indianapolis Colts.
2:19We'll come back to all of that, like why Laquan Treadwell is on the field so much for the Colts and the state of their offense right now.
2:27But it's insane that he is number one huge shout out to Laquan Treadwell that like this is a guy that obviously
2:34did not work out for him as a first round player.
2:37Many, many, many, many, many years ago, many lifetimes ago for all of us here.
2:42Me, you, Charlie, Peach wasn't even born yet. OK, I'm talking about my dogs right now.
2:47It's a long time ago. Laquan Treadwell, you know, was a first round pick that did not work out.
2:52He's hung on a league being a special teamer, reserve wide receiver.
2:56Now he's getting real deal reps for the Indianapolis Colts.
2:59Shout out to him for a big catch down the field that almost looked like it was going to be ruled a
3:05fumble, but sanity prevailed and it wasn't. Then the Colts just kind of turtled up after that.
3:10Didn't love the way Shane Steichen handled that particular end of game sequence.
3:14But I do think that the Colts offense actually had a pretty good performance.
3:18All things considered tonight in Arrowhead Stadium. But we'll get back to the Indianapolis Colts because as always, now that I've rambled
3:25here a little bit off the top, we will talk about the team that actually won the football game, which was the Kansas City Chiefs.
3:32And this was one of the most like quiet, ho-hum, 382 yard, three touchdown performances I can remember from Patrick Mahomes in this game.
3:39Obviously, the passing yardage total is juiced here because we went into overtime.
3:43But still, he was ripping that thing down the football field consistently even when the game was in regulation.
3:49Really nice outing from Mahomes here. And, you know, in a lot of ways, it felt it felt a little bit like the Chiefs of old.
3:57You know, if you don't mind me saying with some of these downfield passing attempts here, like Taequann Thornton was huge in this game.
4:04You got to give it up to Taequann Thornton, another guy that, you know, people just have really kind of forgotten about.
4:10You know, me personally, I'd love to see like some different people in the Chiefs wide receiver room.
4:16And yet they ran out at 11 personnel at a decent rate tonight.
4:20And the three receivers, specifically Taequann Thornton, Rasheed Rice had some moments as well.
4:24Those guys made some plays for this team. And, you know, I think that it's just a welcome sight to see a
4:30Chiefs offense that's actually able to push the ball down the field.
4:34Xavier Worthy also caught a touchdown in this one.
4:37Rasheed Rice caught a touchdown in this one. Excuse me, Rasheed Rice.
4:40Yeah, he was involved a little bit in this one as well.
4:44So, you know, at this point, it's okay in the Chiefs wide receiver room.
4:48It could be better. I'd love to see one more guy in the mix here.
4:52I definitely think one more guy would really take this unit to being an offense that I could actually truly, truly believe in.
4:59Because I still think there are some issues here.
5:02And honestly, if we're being like serious, and I don't want to be just always the Rasheed Rice hater, but four catches, 83 yards.
5:09One of those was on the end of regulation scamper there that Rasheed Rice got like a 30 plus yard play there
5:16where, you know, obviously he's not going to score.
5:18There's no chance he's going to score. He has to score because there's no time left on the clock to even end the football game at that point.
5:27So the culture just kind of letting him run down a little bit.
5:30So even a little bit of Fugazi stat line there for Rasheed Rice with the 83 yards.
5:35And, you know, there's just no way around it at this point.
5:39You have to admit that things have changed for Rice in this receiver room.
5:43Here tonight, he is second on the team in routes.
5:46He ends up with those 83 yards, but on six targets.
5:49Targeted on 22% of his routes. That's fine. Okay.
5:52In terms of target share, it's way down from what we're used to 14%.
5:56That's just the way this thing is going to go now for Rasheed Rice at this stage of where the offense is.
6:03It's a more ground and pound unit. Once again, Kenneth Walker is awesome in this game.
6:0824 carries, 117 yards. He also critically got 10 targets, which was second on the team.
6:12You know, Kenneth Walker has indeed been that change force that has changed things for Rasheed Rice here.
6:18I think Rice would be a really solid second receiver, maybe third receiver on this team if they had a real deal ace.
6:25They don't really in the wide receiver room right now.
6:27But I'm bearing the lead a little bit here because the guy who was the ace in the passing game tonight was Travis Kelsey.
6:35Kelsey looked good tonight, guys. And this is the second week in a row that Kelsey has actually been scampering in the open field.
6:42Kelsey has more games with 60 plus yards after the catch in 2026, which is two.
6:47So it's only two we've played. Then he had in the entire 2024 and 2025 seasons combined, according to NextGenStats.
6:52Great note from NFL researcher there. Kelsey's most yak in a game.
6:56We've seen it a lot recently. And I mean, I joked about this on social media.
7:01He got in shape for his wedding. And then he just continued to roll into the regular season.
7:06Pretty smart move by our guy, Travis Kelsey. He looks great.
7:09He really does look better and more explosive just from the eye test in this particular very, very micro sample of the
7:162020-2026 season than we've seen so far in the previous two years.
7:20So Kelsey turning back the clock is pretty huge.
7:22That is also, I think, a damper for Rasheed Rice as well.
7:26So this was a Chiefs offense that definitely did more than we would expect in the passing game.
7:31Some of that, you got to admit, it's the Colts' defense.
7:34They play a ton of man coverage on the perimeter.
7:37They play a ton of man coverage overall. I haven't seen the numbers exactly what they did tonight, but certainly felt like
7:44I saw a lot of one-on-one man coverage situations.
7:47And then, yeah, cool. You're taking Rice and Worthy out of the game on a large chunk of those plays.
7:53You can do that to those guys because those guys aren't consistent one-on-one beaters.
7:57But shout out to the Chiefs offense. They had two guys kind of on the interior there.
8:02You had Tyquan Thornton. You had Travis Kelsey step up and make plays.
8:06Tyquan Thornton in the slot on 25%. He made some big catches.
8:09One of his big corner route catches, big outbreakers, was from a man coverage look where I believe he was lined up on the perimeter.
8:17It was a condensed receiver on the outside. And then, obviously, you have Travis Kelsey scampering over the middle of the field.
8:23So they've got some guys in this moment. But I think the Colts defense is going to give up these games here
8:30to these pass catchers, specifically when you have some ancillary guys that you can kind of throw at them here.
8:36Yeah, I think it's probably going to go for the Colts on defense this year if they continue to throw out all that man coverage.
8:43Again, I haven't seen the numbers of how much man coverage there was, but I did feel like I saw a decent
8:50bit tonight while watching the football game. So the Chiefs offense, definitely a better unit this year than what we've seen in the previous few years.
8:57The biggest, biggest reason is, of course, Kenneth Walker.
9:00He has changed the equation here. And now you've actually got some guys in Kelsey looking better than he has previously.
9:06You know, worthy. Not a perfect player, but he is a guy that has at least healthier this year than he was last year.
9:13Rice is slowly rounding back into form. I think that Rice is probably a better low usage, high yield player than feeding him all those scammy targets.
9:21I think you could tell yourself a story where that actually works out for him.
9:26Use him more of the yards after catch ways in the intermediate area as opposed to just always feeding him in the short area.
9:33And then Taequann Thornton having a little bit of a moment tonight.
9:37Again, I feel like they could use one real deal ace.
9:40I think you could also say that about the team on the other side.
9:44You know, when you guys check out the full recap show with me, Josh, Hayden and Ray, we actually talk about two
9:51year three wide receivers in Marvin Harrison Jr. and Brian Thomas Jr.
9:54who could maybe actually use a change of scenery at this point.
9:58These are actually two teams that maybe should think about picking up that phone call.
10:02You know, I also suggest like Jerry Judy moving on from the Cleveland Browns.
10:06That's obviously going to be a lot less exciting, and I don't even really know if Jerry Judy would necessarily make the
10:13Chiefs better, necessarily make the Colts better. A lot of different reasons why I might not think so.
10:18But, you know, if you can make a big swing for a receiver at the deadline that's not perfectly content with their
10:25situation, I do think that the Chiefs could really benefit from that because right now this looks like a team that's ready to go.
10:32They're 2-0. Mahomes looks awesome. He tore an ACL not that long ago.
10:36You couldn't tell me based on what we've seen here so far this season.
10:40What an absolute freak show. What a joy to watch when he is really firing.
10:44And again, everybody in the building knew that the Chiefs were going to win that game when they started marching down the
10:51field in the end of the overtime period. Okay, let's talk about the Indianapolis Colts here because there's a lot to say about that particular team.
10:59The biggest news coming out of this one is that Alec Pierce is, I don't know, I'm bracing for bad news on Alec Pierce.
11:06As of right now, we know he left the game with a heel injury.
11:10He turns outward on an outbreaking route, maybe a scramble drill.
11:13And, you know, he just immediately, like, he's hopping up and down on one leg.
11:18Can't put any weight on the heel is what they called it.
11:21X-rays were negative after the game. I guess that's good news.
11:25But obviously, there's going to be some more testing here for Alec Pierce.
11:28So, further evaluation coming on Monday. We probably should know that here at some point tomorrow.
11:33Just a bummer. I can't help but feel like Pierce maybe rushed back from this injury.
11:38He looked decent in week one on a couple of catches.
11:41But, man, it seemed like it was never really trending towards him playing in week one.
11:46And then it felt like there was all this pressure from leadership to, like, play in week one.
11:51We'll never know the full story on that one.
11:54But it just feels like Pierce maybe wasn't 100% ready to rock for this football season.
11:59And now I feel like now we've got another injury to talk about here.
12:03It's the same heel that he had surgery on earlier this season according to the Sunday Night Football broadcast.
12:09So, just a shame here for Pierce. And you can just tell this offense is totally different without him in the mix here.
12:15I mean, I joke that they're going to break the record for stick concepts, stick route concepts here in the 2026 season.
12:22Because they don't have a lot of dudes who can really consistently get downfield, does this team.
12:27I mean, here are your top air yard per target numbers for the Indianapolis Colts.
12:316.8 for Josh Downs. Negative .14 for Tyler Warren.
12:34Laquan Treadwell, even with that heater down the field, 3.3.
12:37Keenan Allen 5.8. I mean, Keenan Allen, man. Not great.
12:40And then Alec Ogletree at 10 air yards per target.
12:43All right. There we go. I mean, this Colts team without Alec Pierce cannot push the ball.
12:48Cannot push the ball downfield. I misspoke. Actually, it was Alec Pierce at 10 air yards per target.
12:53Ogletree was 3. My God, Deion Burke's getting a little bit of like some designer touches with this team.
12:59You know, that's where the Colts are at at this point.
13:02They're looking for answers in that wide receiver room.
13:05Not sure they're going to find a ton after Josh Downs.
13:08And I mean, yes, let's take a moment here to celebrate Josh Downs, who is an absolute stud.
13:14I mean, the only thing that's ever held Josh Downs back, the snap count and the health.
13:19Really good player getting separation at all levels tonight.
13:21Obviously, I think they could use him more downfield, but there were some pass protection issues.
13:26The Colts like pin pull stuff on the offensive line is absolutely fantastic.
13:30We all know Quentin Nelson is the man, but like Bernard Raymond was kicking butt in the run game.
13:36Bernard Raymond also kind of got his butt kicked a couple times in pass protection, too.
13:40So I think that's a part of the equation here to discuss with why the Colts couldn't push it downfield.
13:46But like Josh Downs leading this team in routes, playing on basically all the snaps, being a guy who leads the team with nine targets.
13:54Tyler Warren seven. He Tyler Warren of the negative point one four air yards per target.
13:59Oh, man. Yeah. Josh Downs is the guy to have on this roster right now.
14:03Tyler Warren obviously is going to be very good.
14:06I really wish we could see him more in the intermediate area because I think he can do it.
14:11But right now at this point, like the math is not mathing on the Indianapolis Colts here.
14:16According to Sumer Sports, 2.4 seconds average time to pressure.
14:19That is faster than the NFL average. Average time to throw is 2.6 seconds.
14:24That is faster than the NFL average. Average depth of target, 5.3 average depth of target.
14:28That is below the NFL average. So you're letting up pressure faster than you should because, again, in this game, you're going
14:35to get a lot of blitzes from Steve Spagnuolo, things like that.
14:38Credit to Daniel Jones for getting that ball out pretty quickly to Josh Downs, to some of these guys on the in breakers.
14:45I mean, that's Daniel Jones just playing pretty good quarterback.
14:48Managing the game, running the system, the whole deal.
14:51Some of those balls are not perfectly placed either.
14:54There were some moments where you got some open field over the middle, and these guys just can't run after the catch because, again, it's stick.
15:01We're sitting there, even on the quick slants. The ball's a little bit behind.
15:05Got to adjust to it. I'm hoping better days are ahead for this Colts offense.
15:10I just struggle to know what it's going to look like without a real deal vertical threat.
15:15And, again, I'm bracing for bad news with a guy like Alec Pierce.
15:19The bad news is that they play the Texans next week.
15:22And I do think the Texas defense is still a unit that I'm a little bit freaked out about.
15:28That is going to be tough with that math that we laid out there about the time to pressure, average depth, the whole deal.
15:35Then they get the Commanders, the Steelers. They get the Commanders in Tottenham Stadium then in week four.
15:40Steelers, Titans, Vikings, Jags, Cowboys, Dolphins through the first ten weeks of the season.
15:44So mixed bag in terms of the schedule for the Indianapolis Colts.
15:48But I do think at this point, like Josh Downs is in the circle of trust.
15:53He's in every week wide receiver three. He's going to get the volume.
15:57He's a really, really good player, as we know.
15:59Tyler Warren also remains a tight end one. I do think some of the ceiling has shaved off Tyler Warren.
16:05Would you rather have Tyler Warren or Dalton Kincaid right now?
16:09I think I'd rather have Dalton Kincaid at this stage here.
16:12So it's definitely two offenses that are kind of going in different directions in terms of the vibes right now.
16:18Chiefs offense, vibes are really high. Although I do think they could use one more dimension with the Indianapolis Colts.
16:24I think the vibes are a little not ideal.
16:26Just with the whole Alec Pierce thing, I think that's problematic.
16:30And again, it's going to keep this offense feeling really tight, especially against teams where you're going to see a lot of blitz looks.
16:37I mean, the Commanders, they're running a bit of a Brian Flores style of defense.
16:41They play the actual Brian Flores in week seven.
16:44That is going to definitely be an issue for this team where you're going to have to get that football out quick.
16:50And you're going to have to continue to run Jonathan Taylor, who what a great player.
16:5524 carries, 92 yards, two touchdowns. He also adds four catches on four targets for 40 yards.
17:00There's like no ceiling to the Jonathan Taylor stuff in fantasy football right now because the offensive line is playing really well in the run game.
17:08He is just involved enough as a receiver to really boost that floor.
17:12And he's just going to keep scoring touchdowns at an outrageous clip because he's awesome and he's the engine of this particular unit.
17:19So, yeah, overall, great stuff from the Colts to just keep it close, keeping the fight.
17:23I think Daniel Jones played well, but ultimately they do not win the football game.
17:28And as we're showing on the screen here right now, Sauce Gardner has not won a game in the United States in 644 days.
17:35Tough, tough. If you are the Indianapolis Colts right now, that Sauce Gardner trade continues to look a little like, were they
17:42really at the point where they needed to make that one?
17:45I am not so sure. So really interesting just to consider where these two teams are going.
17:50I do think I kind of like the Colts from maybe not a real life perspective, but from a fantasy standpoint, I do kind of continue to maintain.
17:58It's going to be a team to chase because the offensive pieces, even without Al Pierce and my concerns about the lid being put on this team.
18:06I still think this is a pretty good group to like be invested in the mainstays.
18:11And right now the mainstays are Daniel Jones sort of kind of as a quarterback, you know, again, just from a fantasy perspective.
18:18The ceiling's not super, super high there, but Daniel Jones, certainly the quarterback perspective.
18:22Obviously, Jonathan Taylor's the man. And in the passing game, I think it's going to be a pretty heavy dose of Josh Downs and Tyler Warren.
18:30I get why they went out and signed Keenan Allen, but Laquan Treadwell runs more routes than him tonight because, I mean,
18:36he's Alec Pierce's replacement as the X receiver. And Keenan Allen, it's just like you saw some of those routes tonight.
18:43It's not looking great for Keenan Allen at this point.
18:46So it really should just be Josh Downs, Tyler Warren, I guess the sprinkling of Laquan Treadwell unless they make a move.
18:52But the way the defense is playing on the other side and how, yeah, cool, you can blot out the outside receivers,
18:59but linebackers, slot receivers, running backs out of the backfield, that's going to continue to be a thing that haunts this Colts defense.
19:05Unless they make some personnel changes, I'm not so sure that's going to get better.
19:10So two teams that we learned a lot about through the first two weeks of the season.
19:15And unlike the rest of week two, I actually feel like these two teams in particular kind of doubled down on what
19:22we saw from their week one version. So really instructive and I think really entertaining late night Sunday night football game.
19:28But that's going to do it for us here on the solo Sunday night recap.
19:32I appreciate all you guys watching along with us here, getting in the chat, making this fun.
19:37We appreciate all your support. For now, that's going to do it for this one.
19:42We'll see you all next time. All right, that's going to do it for the solo Sunday night recap.
19:47Now on to the rest of the week two full Sunday slate breakdown with me, Josh Norris, Hayden Winks, Ray Garvin.
19:54Let's get into it. Oh, we have a lot to talk about.
19:57Week two is in the books and it felt a whole lot different than week one.
20:02Fewer points. And I would say when there are fewer points, then we really get to know exactly how these coaches want
20:09to utilize the football, who they want to get the football to.
20:12Hayden, what's the number that you said? I mean, just an embarrassment of lack of touchdowns to certain positions today.
20:18Yeah, we went over the first hour without a touchdown to a wide receiver or a tight end.
20:23It was an hour and three minutes before Devontae Smith got there.
20:27There's a lot of running back touchdowns, but a full hour in week two is not a good start.
20:33All right. So that means if you're feeling it in your fantasy football lineups, all of us are feeling it in our fantasy football lineups.
20:40Obviously, the game by game recap show. We got Ray Garvin.
20:43We got Matt Harmon. And we're first going to send it over to Hayden Winks where, yeah, we wouldn't regularly start with
20:50a game that finished 9-3 as the Vikings top the Chicago Bears.
20:53But there's a whole bunch to dive into here, Hayden, in terms of fantasy assets performing or not.
20:59And then maybe most importantly, at the end of the game, Caleb Williams looks like he's about to scramble in for a
21:05touchdown, grabs his hamstring, slides down, gets carted to the locker room as the Bears fail to score a single touchdown after
21:12putting 59 points on the board last week. Let's start with the Vikings because they won this game 9-3.
21:18They did not score a touchdown. The primary two takeaways were, once again, this was a very run-heavy game script for the Vikings.
21:2413 out of their 20 series started with a run.
21:27And who was out there? It was Aaron Jones for nearly almost every single snap.
21:32He left momentarily with a knee injury, but he did return.
21:35It was 90% of the snaps at halftime, finishes with 23 carries in this one.
21:40The Bears did a pretty good job of slowing things down.
21:43In general, and then through the past game, they just did not have to rely on Carson Wentz.
21:48Carson Wentz had a really bad almost interception on the first drive.
21:52Then it had a really hilarious sequence where he was trying to set players in motion before the snap.
21:57The ball goes over his head. There was immediately too many negatives.
22:01And then they just said, we're going to get rid of the Carson Wentz stuff because the defense was so successful.
22:07Justin Jefferson, he had a defensive holding called on Tyreek Stevenson.
22:10That probably would have been a 70-yard touchdown. Aside from that, not a whole lot through the past game.
22:16So maybe, Matt, I'll kick it over to you.
22:19Aaron Jones, 90% of the snaps at halftime, 23 carries in this one.
22:23We're not going to get Jordan Mason for a long time.
22:26I'm not sure if we're going to get Aaron Jones for a long time.
22:30But I'm kind of looking at this as like a top 15 running back.
22:34Is that too crazy? I don't think that's crazy.
22:37I mean, again, this is a weird game too, right?
22:40I mean, you watched more of it, obviously, than I did.
22:43But weather-impacted game for sure all throughout. But at the same time, I think Aaron Jones comes out of this pretty well.
22:50And yeah, he might not be around for long.
22:52But I mean, this is one of those moments where it doesn't feel like I'm tempting fate by saying, what else are they going to do?
23:00Like DJ Dallas is a special teams player. Damond Claiborne is a rookie that is sub 190 pounds.
23:05Like this is going to be the Aaron Jones show for as long as he can handle it.
23:11And I'm certainly going to be more interested in this offense next week when it looks like Kyler Murray will be back.
23:17Hayden, talk us through the opposite end. Because I know that really weather won in this one.
23:22That's why we only got 12 points combined. How much of a factor was that?
23:27And then how different did the Bears offense just generally look versus last weekend's laser show?
23:32Yeah, definitely weather mattered here a lot. Even KOC after the game, he said when he was walking on the field, like
23:38as a coach, like his feet were like completely sinking into the grass there.
23:42So weather definitely impacted this one. The Bears, though, it was not just because of the hamstring injury with Caleb.
23:48They were not moving the ball very successfully at all.
23:51And they're still doing the weird stuff with the rotation.
23:54Like, for example, Luther Burden, 55% of the snaps at halftime.
23:57That was behind Kalief Raymond. By the way, Luther Burden, it's the non-three wide receiver set snaps.
24:03That's been the hangup at one point. That was about 27% of them.
24:06But then even like Colson Loveland, who obviously we've been drafting super high on him.
24:11He had some moments as like a wide zone blocker.
24:14But he's been blocking a whole lot more than receiving.
24:17He comes up empty on this one. Fantasy points.
24:19And unfortunately, on the last play of the game with Tyson Bajan trying to march in for like a rescue game winner,
24:26he's left in not as a receiver. He's left in to block Dallas Turner, who walks him back for the sack to walk this thing off.
24:34Dallas Turner, by the way, he's been an absolute monster for back-to-back games.
24:38Like, there's some free pressures for him, certainly. But he's a way more physical player for them.
24:43Like, that's the type of player that makes this Vikings defense really go.
24:47The Vikings, once again, blitzed 77% of the time.
24:49Ironically, though, it was the plays without the blitz were the problem for the Bears.
24:54Against the blitz, they were actually okay. The problem was like Dallas Turner was kind of chasing down Caleb Williams, who was
25:00not very comfortable for most of this game. Ray, I gotta ask you.
25:04I know you haven't reviewed the tape. But let's say in one of your leagues, you drafted Colston Loveland.
25:10Through two games, one reception for three yards in that round four territory that was so rich with talent.
25:15What's your panic meter right now? Total panic right now on Colston Loveland.
25:19I'm not at Coping Corner, which is like the most extreme of panic meter panics.
25:24But this is not what I signed up for.
25:26It's, I mean, and then just to put the icing and the cherry on top, he gets absolutely destroyed by Dallas Turner
25:33to give up the sack at the end of the game.
25:36One catch, three yards. If you would have, I'm telling y'all right now, I would have bet my mortgage.
25:42If you would have said, Ray, what's the probability that Kalief Raymond would have 13 catches on the season and the combined
25:48trio of Bird and Odunze and Loveland would have 14 on the year, I'd be homeless.
25:53I'd be out on the street right now because I say there's not a chance in hell that would even be possible.
26:00I am on full panic mode. And like Hayden said, the Bears look kind of stank before Caleb Williams went out.
26:06And I get the fact that the weather was bad, but I don't know how you slice this.
26:11Like this is not what you signed up for two weeks in the season.
26:15On Kalief Raymond, his ADOT in this one, 1.4 yards down the football field.
26:20And that was something that the Chicago Bears were not able to do.
26:24And I think a lot of times when you think like Brian Flores bringing all this pressure, just beat him over the top.
26:30Pretty much no team playing Brian Flores even tries to pass the ball over the top.
26:35There was one completion from Caleb Williams beyond eight air yards in this one.
26:39When you have like six guys crowding the line of scrimmage, you don't know who's coming.
26:44Typically what happens is the running backs don't go out in the route.
26:48Sometimes the tight ends don't go out in the route.
26:51And they just kind of pepper like this little slot player.
26:54And that's exactly what Brian Flores wants because those guys were kind of swarming there.
26:59So it wasn't even like the most effective stuff from Caleb or Kalief Raymond.
27:03And then some of the Roma Dunze stuff, that was kind of like out of structure as well.
27:08So like nothing came easy for Caleb Williams and Tyson Bajan at the end of there.
27:13And if they didn't get DeAndre Swift for a couple nice receptions underneath, which was like kind of like throw the ball
27:19out to the flats, a little screenplay kind of catch them slipping a little bit.
27:24That was like the only effective stuff that they had here because even against the ground, like DeAndre Swift, 2.8 yards per carry.
27:31Kyle Manunga had a couple of nice runs, but nothing too crazy here.
27:35And just the Vikings defense was swarming. And then last note real quick, DeAndre Swift at the goal line, Jalen Redman, a
27:41defensive tackle for the Vikings, who's just been a monster.
27:44He keeps popping up on tape every single time I watch him.
27:48He punches the ball out. That was like obviously a huge part of this game.
27:52So yeah, really like nothing going here from the Bears moving the ball down the field.
27:57Matt, just to reset here. I just want to go through the Bears receivers.
28:01DeAndre Swift, leading receiver, 5 receptions, 54 yards. Roma Dunze, 3 for 43 on 4 targets.
28:06Kalief Raymond, as we put up on the screen, 5 for 40.
28:09Luther Burden, 3 for 32. Then all the way down below Sam Rauch is Colston Loveland, 1 for 3.
28:15So Hayden mentioned, you know, some rotation here or there.
28:18And Matt, I don't want to spend an eternity on Kalief Raymond.
28:22But if I was to zoom out and try to picture why a 32-year-old Kalief Raymond with a history with Ben Johnson
28:28is heavily involved in comparison to some other pieces that we highly drafted that are not heavily involved.
28:33Some of it's the defenses that they faced, like with the Panthers, they have great outside corners.
28:39They try to play coverage in the back half and he was just open on the reads underneath in the quick areas, right?
28:45This one, some of the same thing as Hayden mentioned, they'll rush and muddy up the gaps and then they'll play coverage in the back half.
28:53And then you have that open area. I would say, obviously the Bears scored a bunch of points last week, but if
29:00you want to be better in that area, then like get guys who can win after the catch a little bit more.
29:06Obviously with Colson Loveland and Luther Burden there, but Matt, I would love your input here.
29:11Yeah. I mean, Raymond is a really solid player.
29:14You know, he's had his moments in the NFL.
29:16Like you said, he knows this system. He's an inside out option for this team.
29:21Good news, bad news for the Bears. They play on Monday night.
29:24So theoretically next week, theoretically, Caleb Williams can get back for that one.
29:28Maybe if he's got a little extra day, bad news, they play the Philadelphia Eagles, which is not exactly the unit I'd
29:35be wanting to go up against if I got to fix some of these problems.
29:39You know, I also think too, just on specifically on Raymond, I think he's going to be a little bit pesky for this team all year.
29:47And I kind of think that was something we maybe should have talked about in the offseason more.
29:52I know Nate and I briefly talked about it on players that were better in real life than fantasy football, that he
29:59was going to have an impact for this team.
30:01I think it's going to continue to happen. And I do think it really like his skill set, at least how they've
30:08used him so far in the short areas and, you know, kind of finding soft spots and zones.
30:13That is probably going to be a problem for a guy like Luther Burton, who I still want to say is probably
30:20not 100% healthy after being injured throughout training camp.
30:23But I am a little worried. There's a little bit overlapping skill sets between those two guys.
30:28In addition to the fact like Hayden, I thought there was one point like Sam Roush got like a designed target inside the scoring area.
30:35I don't know. It did not end well. Spoiler alert for everybody else out there.
30:40It does feel like maybe the Bears are maybe a little bit too cute, maybe feeling themselves after a great week one.
30:46Yeah, Sam Roush dropped a couple passes in this one just was really brutal spots.
30:51But I agree. Just watching both the Luther Burton games, he's not getting like a bunch of like the manufactured touches that you would necessarily see.
30:58There's also like a really interesting sequence at the end of the game when Bajam was trying to win that game.
31:05Luther Burton gets tackled inbounds. I thought there was a chance that he could have got out of bounds.
31:10They're kind of scrambling around. They throw the ball up to Luther Burton, who wasn't even expecting the ball to come his way.
31:17And that was almost an interception. It's kind of like back to back plays from Luther Burton where like not everything was kind of checking out.
31:25So yeah, I agree. The Khalif Raymond stuff, he's just kind of sitting there underneath.
31:29And that's been like a lot of like the most successful plays like those.
31:33They have been working, unfortunately, for Chicago. Hayden, I know you haven't watched all 22.
31:38How would you use Colson Loveland differently? Yeah, I mean, I would use him.
31:42I mean, I don't even know differently. I would just use him.
31:46Can I just use him? I don't even know what's different about it.
31:49Just use him. Yeah, I'll have to go back and watch this one.
31:53You can't even say it's like the weather, though, because he's not gonna be winning down the football field all that often.
32:00There was a couple of times where he was like isolated out there, but the ball is like not going his way.
32:06I will say I did not like the games on the line and he's blocking the defensive end out instead of being out there out.
32:14Like to me, like that's like, OK, we can at least do better than that.
32:18Final question. We know that Caleb gets carted off in tears, gives a thumbs up.
32:23I mean, as soon as it happened, it looked really bad.
32:26Albeit you saw him grab that hamstring. Hayden, what is the latest?
32:30Like apparently he walked through the locker room with reporters with no limp and no crutches or anything.
32:35So it's not a complete tear off the bone.
32:38I mean, seeing that visual and then with him potentially after imaging maybe tomorrow, maybe not missing that much time would be truly amazing.
32:45Yeah. Hamstring just depends on the severity of it.
32:47It was definitely the hamstring kind of that move where it's like picks up both of his feet when he's getting chased
32:54down and he does evade a lot of sacks and that.
32:57But in the rain, it was just a little bit too much here.
33:01So, yeah, who knows? Like if it's a really serious one, it's it's months.
33:05Most of the time it's weeks. I will say this.
33:08A lot of the best plays from Caleb Williams this year and last year is him buying time, throwing the ball down the field and obviously the scrambling.
33:17Like even if he does come back and let's say like hopefully it's in the next couple of weeks, like is it going to be the same version?
33:25Because that's a lot of the plays in that week one game where we're him buying a lot of time or scrambling himself.
33:32All right. We'll move on. There were two games in week two where the eight and a half point underdogs won outright.
33:38And that includes here the New Orleans Saints on the road in Baltimore beat the Ravens 24 to 17.
33:44And I'm kind of looking at this box score, Ray, and I can't really tell how they did it.
33:50Okay. Now, Tyler Shuck does have two touchdowns in the day, one passing, one rushing 252 yards.
33:55We'll go through all this. Obviously, Chris Olave, fantastic with 10 targets, eight receptions, 86 yards.
33:59But it's not like we got any answers with our backfield weirdness, did we?
34:04We did not. And you will actually, Josh, I may change.
34:07I may change it. I think we did get a little bit of an answer.
34:11And it's not the answer that that anybody wants to hear.
34:15I just don't know if Travis A. Chan is that dude for this offense.
34:19It does not appear to be so. Going into halftime, it was nine rush attempts or nine touches for Alvin Kamara to two to Travis A.
34:26Chan. It does not seem like they want to feature him for whatever reason.
34:31Yet, I'm watching this game, and it was very obvious that the coaching from Kellen Moore, he outcoached the other side of the ball.
34:38Jesse Minter and the Baltimore Ravens. Tyler Shuck outplayed Lamar Jackson.
34:41I know their numbers are close, but it just felt like Baltimore never really could get their foot on New Orleans and to put them away.
34:49Going into halftime, the game was, I believe, 14 to six going into halftime.
34:53And Baltimore only got, what, three more points. They only scored one more touchdown after that.
34:58It was 14 to six at halftime. And then they only managed a few more points after this.
35:03And you look at what Baltimore did. It was Lamar running around for his life.
35:07I've talked about it at great length, that Lamar Jackson does not prioritize the wide receiver two in his offense.
35:13And I'm watching this, and it's a problem. Okay?
35:16Rashad Bateman had a great game, but you know what?
35:19He wasn't the wide receiver two today. He was the wide receiver one.
35:23So he sort of stepped in to the Zay Flowers role.
35:26Downfield stuff. He got a shot early in the game.
35:29A seam route up the middle for a touchdown.
35:32Like, he was the primary target. And Mark Andrews, I asked you about him last week, Josh.
35:37He looked good again. And he left a couple yards on the field due to a couple of penalties.
35:43So Mark Andrews is a strong play. But there is nobody else to take pressure off of Lamar.
35:48And when the running game really couldn't get going today, Derrick Henry had a couple of decent runs.
35:53But by and large, it was three yards here, five yards there, a six-yard game.
35:58But he wasn't able to get loose. And the New Orleans just kept chipping away, chipping away, chipping away.
36:03Devon Vele is a solid role player. Juwan Johnson, a very solid tight end that people don't like.
36:09Chris Olave is a stud. And when you look at this backfield rotation, Alvin Kamara, five catches for seven yards.
36:15I don't know what the average is for that.
36:17What, a yard per catch for Alvin Kamara? A little over that.
36:21But they continue to utilize him throughout the entire game.
36:24Thank goodness Travis Etienne got one of those plays where he had almost scored a touchdown.
36:29They call it back through to a penalty. But I do think there are answers, Josh.
36:33And the answer isn't what we want to hear.
36:36I don't think he is the bell cow running back for this Calamore offense.
36:40Harmon, is this Travis Etienne contract just money laundering, staring us in the face?
36:44I mean, it's more that than like, hey, we're going to use you as a workhorse.
36:49Is it not? I didn't hear a single kind of justification last week from any fantasy content creator that I consume about
36:56why this was going to be okay for Travis Etienne with the rotation that we saw in week one that didn't involve,
37:02but they paid him a lot of money. Are they paying a lot of money?
37:07I mean, that's great. Like the direct deposit is hitting for Travis Etienne, but the fantasy usage is not.
37:12And he comes away, you know, with the touchdown taken back here, which I guess you could say, like if that had
37:19happened, we'd probably save the day for him. But he is someone that I'm worried that when we do the episode tomorrow,
37:25that I might be putting him in the coping corner already.
37:29I mean, what else is going to change about this?
37:32I don't know. On third and fourth downs, CJ Donaldson, 15 of 17 snaps.
37:36So that's the first problem. Someone that we've never heard of is playing almost every single snap, even with Alvin Kamara.
37:42So that leaves Alvin Kamara with playing on the early down snaps, which is what Travis Etienne was supposed to get 90% of this one.
37:50So I think he is going to get the goal line role like we saw that in this one.
37:55But you can't be a 50% player on early downs and get zero of the third and fourth down snaps and be a fourth round player.
38:03So it's pretty much over for Travis Etienne until something changes.
38:06I mean, Ray, maybe it's pointless of me trying to work through this decision making.
38:11But is it potentially that Kellen Moore and company signed Travis Etienne, they got in camp and they kind of just realized
38:17he's not as good as we thought he was?
38:20Or is this all, hey, we want to split the backfield as much as possible and we'll pay him, you know, that
38:26type of running back salary and still only use them a third to a half of the time?
38:32Can I say both things can be true? I mean, everybody on this panel has had multiple conversations with players who have
38:38played in the NFL, listening to what happens behind the scenes on the practice field.
38:43It doesn't take long, right? Once you get into camp, once you start playing, like it doesn't take by week six for
38:49the NFL coach to figure out if this guy's good or this guy's going to be a player or have a bigger role or a smaller role.
38:57Like, you know pretty quickly what you've got in somebody very early on.
39:01And I'm trying to think back to the summer where there are tea leaves that we were just ignoring and missing, that
39:08they were using multiple backs in camp, that he wasn't going to be this workhorse.
39:12Watching the flow of the game, y'all, it wasn't like they got blown out and they take him off the field.
39:18Alvin Kamara was on the field early down situations, third down situations.
39:22He was not on the – it was never, never one point in time did you feel like, oh, this is a Travis Atran drive.
39:29He gets a few touches, then they pull him off the field.
39:33They put in Alvin Kamara. I think both of these things could be true, Josh.
39:37Maybe he's not as good as they thought he was, and maybe they just want to use multiple running backs.
39:43But through two weeks, I'm with you, Harmon. Like, what's the excuse this week?
39:48I don't know. I don't have a good one.
39:50I'll tell you that. Can we talk about the player who's good on this team, Chris Olave?
39:55Yes. How many receivers in fantasy football would we all want to have rather than Chris Olave right now?
40:01I think it's a short list. Good question. I closed with him as a fringe top 20 player in my overall rankings,
40:08and he has been just every time I've watched the tape, seeing the game today, like he's a stud.
40:13He's doing everything right now. There's not – like I remember saying a couple times on the pod, it might have been
40:20with – I mean, probably was with all three here because we all talk so much.
40:24But I was like, what's the difference between Chris Olave and Drake London when Drake London was going in the second round
40:31and Chris Olave is going in the third round?
40:34Quite a bit of a difference now between what's going on with Drake London and what's going on with Chris Olave.
40:4023 targets for Olave through two games. 23 targets and I'd say conservatively another 40, 50 yards left on the field due to some drops or a penalty.
40:48He looks outstanding. Every quadrant of the field, Matt, when you chart him at some point in the season, I mean, it's
40:55just going to be green all over the place because he's running every route, coming down with every catch, and he just
41:01looks like he's having fun with that mushroom on top of his head.
41:05At this point, it's going to take Colson Loveland the whole season to get 23 targets.
41:10Okay. Oh, yeah. On the Ravens, last week I thought that Declan Doyle and Lamar Jackson were awesome together, that they were on the same page.
41:18Ray, did they still look good together? Like, were they chaining runs and passing plays and bootlegs and movement and all that type of stuff?
41:25And was the difference that, hey, Zay Flowers isn't out there and he is by far and away their best pass catcher?
41:32The first scripted, like the first scripted package that they came out with, I was like, okay, this is Baltimore.
41:38They look good. Rashad Bateman is stepping up. He's going to be in the Zay Flowers role.
41:43But once they got through that first 15, 20 plays on the play sheet, they didn't have answers.
41:48They didn't have answers. I know there were some issues and some concerns about Ronnie Stanley playing, and then they've got Carson Benson in there at offensive tackle.
41:56Lamar was under duress all day. Derek Henry really couldn't get going.
42:00And Josh, I really, I truly believe the biggest problem with Baltimore, probably if you go back the past couple of years,
42:06is their inability to find somebody else to throw to when the primary target is occupied or covered up.
42:12Rashad Bateman had a great game. But we need Bateman to be good when Zay Flowers is on the field.
42:18We need when one of them are out, somebody else has to step up.
42:22Maybe that was supposed to be Jacoby Lane. Maybe that gives you some hope for one of those younger guys down the line.
42:29But it's a big problem. When Bateman was covered up, there were no other answers.
42:34It was pray to Mark Andrews, dump the ball to Derek Henry or Lamar Jackson, scramble around.
42:39They have to find another option. Yeah. I'm sure Ravens fans thought that, you know, a 14-point fourth quarter would leave when
42:45Harbaugh left and these wonky, weird losses would go away.
42:48But that certainly was not the case here. All right.
42:51It is time to talk about the most disappointing team in the NFL.
42:55Not just to me, but also to the markets.
42:58That's the LA Chargers as they lose 26-14 at home here against the Las Vegas Raiders.
43:02I'm going to take you to the end of game sequence because I think it's very indicative of where the Chargers are at right now.
43:10So they're down three, five minutes to go with the ball in their hands.
43:14Deep in their own territory, Justin Herbert fumbles on a sack on third and eight.
43:18But the ball falls forward. They recover it. So it turns into a fourth and one.
43:23Clint Kubiak on the opposite sideline calls a timeout.
43:26Out of that timeout, the Raiders then have 12 men on the field.
43:30So they have to run a play. The Chargers get a new sequence of events.
43:34Automatic first down at midfield. On the very next carry, Amar Hampton fumbles it up the gut.
43:39And the game ends with Cody White. Yes. Name seven teams that Cody White has played for in the NFL.
43:45Score is his second touchdown of the game. And his first, by the way, was one of the best catches of the weekend.
43:52Ripped it out of the Chargers' DB's hands. I mean, this game was so sloppy on both ends, but especially when we're talking about the LA Chargers.
44:00There were three false starts for Joe Ault at home.
44:03If you want to call this a home game for the LA Chargers.
44:07A beautiful ball to David Njoku that he bobbled led to Justin Herbert's first interception.
44:11By the way, David Njoku carted off with, I believe, a knee injury.
44:15A cover two hole shot to Quentin Johnson that was dropped along the sideline.
44:19Brennan Thompson drops a 15-yarder because he was playing a lot more than Ladd McConkie in the first half.
44:25And then third and short for the Chargers on one snap.
44:28Order of operations not there. The snap hits Trey Harris in motion.
44:32And the Chargers fall on the fumble. Really, truly.
44:35The best part of this game, other than Cody White, was Hayden's guy, Trey Tucker.
44:39He made good on a slip early in the game that caused an interception.
44:43But man, he made up for it. 40-yard touchdown, deep post in the first half.
44:48Kirk longest throw of the season. Until another post shot to Trey Tucker later on for a 42-yard gain with intense interior pressure on Kirk.
44:55Oh, it's almost a no-look pass. And don't look out now, Hayden, as the Las Vegas Raiders are 2-0.
45:01Yeah, Trey Tucker better be on the staying thumbnail.
45:03That's all I'll say about that. I think what's shocking about the Chargers, and obviously we'll get to their offense, is the
45:10defense is just giving up big chunk plays. And then Derwin James in the first game on one-on-one situations, he was getting beats.
45:17Their best players aren't really showing up. They don't really have any edge rushers right now that are standing out.
45:23And some of those deep passes from Kirk Cousins there, he's got all the time in the world.
45:28That is as big of a problem. The defense is as the offense.
45:32And that's shocking because the defensive coordinator, he left.
45:35But you figure that they would have some semblance of a defense.
45:38I hear you. However, they were fantastic at stopping the run in this game.
45:42Ashton Gentry goes 21 carries for 48 yards. Ashton Gentry was a part of the problem, too.
45:47He had three drops in this game, multiple on third and fourth downs.
45:51There's also a sequence where he got three carries inside the five-yard line, including a wildcat on fourth and one, and never
45:58got into the end zone on that. So there's a huge difference between his week one and his week two.
46:04But Hayden, other than Trey Tucker, Derek Young was the next leading receiver for the Raiders at 27 yards.
46:09Jack Besh at 25 yards. To me, it kind of comes back to the offense is putting the defense in terrible, terrible situations.
46:16Like the Chargers really had one good drive. It was out of half, let off with a 53-yard catch by Trey Harris,
46:23wide open after Justin Herbert climbs the pocket. And they had a red zone touchdown very shortly after that to a Rondé
46:29Gadsden, where there's this weird, awkward action in the backfield that makes Justin Herbert look in the opposite direction.
46:35Max Crosby is left unblocked. Somehow, someway, Justin Herbert freezes him, climbs the pocket, and throws the touchdown.
46:40But other than that, it just looks like the Chargers are not practicing between these games.
46:45And I understand that they are. But Matt, it really has gotten to this point where this Mike and Daniel offense, it wasn't ready in week one.
46:53It's not ready in week two. And I question when it is going to be ready because the Chargers really needed to
47:00win their first two games against the Cardinals and the Raiders.
47:03Because after this, it's the Bills, Seahawks, Broncos, Chiefs, Rams, Texans, Ravens.
47:07Good luck to you. Oh, man. Brutal, brutal schedule coming in here now at this point.
47:11This is one of the biggest shocks of the first two weeks of the season that this team has been.
47:17I could see them being like a slow-ish start team just because it's a new offense.
47:22It's really different. All the motions and all the personnel groupings that they want to put on the field, that's fine.
47:28I also think without Lad McConkie, they're banged. And Lad McConkie was, at least to the route participation numbers, like fake active today.
47:35He was out there, but he was not in a full-time role, which is at least, you know, I think you could pretty much expect that.
47:43I know he had like one great catch that I saw in cut there.
47:47Also looked like he got kind of smoked on that one too.
47:51That's going to be tough for Lad all season long.
47:53But yeah, I don't know. This is one of the biggest shocks to me of the first two weeks of the season
48:00that they have looked this bad and this like disorganized so far to me, Josh.
48:05Yes. Yeah, and it's just way too much window dressing and stuff going on before the snap rate.
48:10Go ahead. No, I'm just going to say this is a fantasy football show, but I truly believe that I am surrounded
48:16by three of the best just straight up ball knowers in the fantasy football game.
48:21So kudos to this crew. I want to give some flowers and appreciation to Clint Kubiak.
48:26Like this Raiders team, we're talking about how big of a shock it is for the Chargers.
48:31I don't recognize this team. Like they look completely different on both sides of the ball.
48:35It's not perfect, but I tweeted it out. If there was a coach of the year two weeks into the NFL season,
48:42Clint Kubiak has got to be at the top of the list.
48:46I mean, they're playing good on both sides of the ball.
48:49And it almost makes you forget that they picked Fernando Mendoza number one overall in the NFL draft because it's like Cousins is serviceable enough.
48:56This takes credit to the culture change in Las Vegas because this team is playing damn good football right now.
49:02To that point, Ray, we just talked about, and we'll get into Ladner-McConkie with the Chargers, but their passing game not looking solid without him.
49:10You could kind of say the same thing about Zay Flowers and the Ravens who we just talked about, a bunch of these other teams.
49:17And yet the Raiders have not had Brock Bowers in the first two games and they are 2-0.
49:22That is just good coaching. When you elevate role players like Trey Tucker is, like Derek Young, like Jack Bash, like Cody White over these last two weeks.
49:31Like that is exactly what good coaching is. Just quickly on Ladd-McConkie, I think he played like three of the first 14
49:37plays for the opening 13 snaps, okay? That included third and five, third and eight, third and 11.
49:43He was all on the sideline. Now that changed in the second half when this team had to have him on the field.
49:49He ended up, I think, running a route on 24 of 34 dropbacks.
49:53And he then did play a bunch of third downs, but it just, it wasn't enough.
49:58And yeah, without him, like again, when a veteran David Njoku drops a pass and QJ drops a pass and all this type of stuff.
50:06And again, as we have seen with Justin Herbert, when things are kind of going poorly and he feels like he has
50:12to play Superman Hayden, he just forces throws that he shouldn't.
50:15He forces mistakes and he doesn't live for the next down.
50:19And that definitely came back to bite him in this game too.
50:22I'm a little bit worried about Justin Herbert in that looking at the numbers, the pass protection, it's not like that he
50:29was under duress, according to PFF, it's like 26% pressure rate.
50:32And when I was watching the first game, there were some times where I thought Justin Herbert was just like either not
50:39pulling the trigger or like a little bit more inaccurate.
50:42Now, obviously you have drops to Quinton Johnson. I saw one with a rookie as well.
50:46The David Njoku interception drop, fumble, whatever we're calling that, was just like hilarious.
50:50But there's been some times where there's like keeping a lot of guys in and there's like two guys out in the
50:57route and there's, you know, seven, eight guys in coverage and Justin Herbert's not seeing it well.
51:02And he just kind of chucking it downfield with like very little success.
51:06Like I'm a little bit worried about just Justin Herbert's feel in this offense early on.
51:11Yeah, none of it looks easy at this moment.
51:13And while we can say the running game, which should be Mike McDaniel's staple, 23 carries, which is a career high for
51:20Martin Hampton, 94 yards and a touchdown. And he and Keaton Mitchell had this one nice drive but it was like chunk gain after chunk gain.
51:28And that's when Hampton got down to the one yard line and scored again.
51:32He fumbled the game away and he is just like a magnet to contact.
51:36The dude wants to like get hit every single time he carries the ball.
51:40He doesn't want to juke anyone out. He doesn't want to run this space.
51:44He just wants to run into three defenders and that shows up a lot.
51:48And that's very different than like the Devon H-hands of the Miami Dolphins and a bunch of the other backs that have had a lot of success here.
51:57So there's not much else to say here. I mean, again, the Chargers need to start 2-0 and they're 0-2 and they
52:03have to learn on the fly fast. I think we, you know, made the point that these new play callers, it's going to take some time.
52:11But I would say that the Chargers are the most behind of any team in the league right now and the markets
52:18keep giving them a lot of credit. And I think that's about to change swiftly here in week three.
52:23All right, Matt, let's talk about it. Broncos, Jaguars, some of our favorite players that we drafted this summer are involved here.
52:30But there was one man, one name that we needed a big rebound from and his, for our pride, name was Jalen Waddell.
52:3710 targets, 8 receptions, 138 yards, which is 106 more than the next closest Bronco whose name is Nate Atkins as the
52:43Broncos win at home 20-13 over the Jaguars. Thank God for, yeah, all the YouTube comments for the at mentions.
52:49Jalen Waddell has a big game and it was pretty apparent pretty early, even before the Broncos offense found themselves that Jalen Waddell was going to be back.
52:57He had 92 of his total yards from the slot, but he wasn't a primary slot player.
53:02He was like 26% from the slot in terms of snaps.
53:06But when he was in there, you know, the targets per route juiced up.
53:10They really want to get him these explosive plays.
53:13They also manufactured some stuff for him, but it was really within the flow of the offense too, just both down the
53:19field and also like in cuts in the intermediate area.
53:22This was the theory of the case of why you get Jalen Waddell here.
53:26And again, this was not a perfect outing by the Denver Broncos offense by any means, but they did settle down in the second half.
53:34I think a good chunk of that, like a good bit of the credit does have to go to Jonah Coleman getting
53:40in there, who is going to be one of the biggest waiver wires of the week.
53:45We'll be like the first people to tell you that.
53:48We won't be the last. Because depending on J.K.
53:51Dobbins injury. By a lot of people. Yeah, he was dropped in 7% of Yahoo leagues.
53:55He's currently rostered in 26% of Yahoo leagues. So yeah, I mean, listen, he's going to be picked back up.
54:01He should be picked back up. I don't think J.K.
54:04Dobbins has looked all that great to start the season.
54:07And now he's dealing with the hamstring injury. Also in pass protection too.
54:11J.K. Dobbins has made a lot of mistakes that continued once again today, which is weird because he's a veteran back and played for this team last year.
54:19And Jonah Coleman is one of the best pass protecting backs in the NFL draft class.
54:24I actually had him on the forecast at one point during the offseason that he talked about before the draft.
54:30You know, just how much pride he took in like pass protection, catching the ball, like being a reliable player.
54:36And you gotta, you know that Sean Payton had to love that Jonah Coleman with about two, less than three minutes left
54:43in this game slides in bounds to keep the clock rolling so that they can just ice this game to ultimately win it.
54:50Because like I said, not a perfect outing by the Denver Broncos offense.
54:53They still have some things they need to work on here.
54:57Bo Nix threw a ghastly interception in the end zone on a slot fade to Cortland Sutton that just like wasn't even close.
55:03But I think Jonah Coleman kind of settling down the run game and Jalen Waddell being exactly what they bargained for and
55:10we all bargained for in fantasy football was the biggest stories of the day.
55:14Matt, can we double click on Jalen Waddell? I see that he got a couple screens but if you remove those screens
55:21his ADOT was 20 yards down the field. Can we explain why and how that happened?
55:26That is one thing like coming out of week one and I wrote this for RP that like was maybe a difference
55:32in what I expected his you know, kind of usage to be.
55:36It's a little bit like all or nothing in that way.
55:39I'm not going to call it like the Marvin Mims role but it is very much you know, where Mims is pretty
55:45much all screens and go routes and corners and posts but there is a decent bit of that for Jalen Waddell here.
55:52So they're definitely going to he might be a little bit more boomer bus than I Bart that I like really wanted
55:59him to be if he's going to reach that absolute upside case.
56:02But I mean, again, the offense was not clicking today and he still had these major, major booms.
56:07So even his first like big play of the day, it's on a post route from the slot where he just gets
56:14loose against zone coverage and he goes down at the one yard line.
56:18They don't punch the ball in by the way because that was when the offense was not in a good spot in short yardage situations.
56:25But yeah, so I do think there might be a little bit more volatility to his role but I think that's something
56:32really worth living through because you see what the upside is here.
56:35Ray, just to rewind here on Jonah Coleman, I think it was three different shows I talked about it this week where
56:42the Broncos in week one against the Chiefs kind of lacked sparks everywhere.
56:46And I'm glad they got Jalen Waddle involved here.
56:48But to me, when you have the compounding R.J.
56:51Harvey being out, J.K. Dobbins at his age and then maybe some frustration about the offense being able to at least move
56:58the chains efficiently, that all kind of set up for a guy in Jonah Coleman that got zero snaps in week one
57:04once he gets his opportunity and once he looks good to then like rip away and bite into some real opportunity.
57:10And it looks like from listening to what Matt is saying, Ray, that he did that.
57:15Yeah, and this is one of the guys coming out of college, right?
57:19Before he was drafted out of Washington, Jonah Coleman was the same physical, no-nonsense, explosive hammer at the University of Arizona.
57:25And when you think about Sean Payton, the running backs that he's had of the past and then Jonah Coleman sort of
57:32archetype and profile, very, very reminiscent of a Mark Ingram, Pierre Thomas type player.
57:36I'm watching J.K. Dobbins the same way y'all are.
57:39He just doesn't even look, he doesn't look good at this point.
57:42The injuries are taking a toll on him. R.J.
57:45Harvey, you kind of know the role that he's in.
57:48This is one where I'm just going to say I would be very aggressive with going after waiver claims or bids for
57:54Jonah Coleman because the fit in Denver and his style, it's like chef's kiss with Sean Payton.
58:00I said this during the game. I think there's a non-zero percent chance like if Jonah Coleman, and again, we don't know
58:06how long the injury is going to be for J.K.
58:09Dobbins here if he even misses one game, but if he got like a couple games here, I would say there's a
58:16non-zero percent chance he just, he keeps the lead back job there going forward.
58:20Yeah. And Harvey's a big part of that too, because we know that Sean Payton loves to dial up the red zone work for R.J.
58:27Harvey. If he's out too, then even more goes to Jonah Coleman.
58:31Matt, I want to go over the Jaguars end.
58:33Trevor Lawrence goes 17 of 29 for 189, zero touchdowns, one interception.
58:37I see Basial Tootin versus Chris Rodriguez being 13 carries, 65 yards, and a wildcat touchdown near the goal line for Basial
58:44Tootin compared to the six carries for Chris Rodriguez and 13 yards.
58:47And then the wide receivers is once again, led by Parker Washington, 12 targets, seven receptions, 98 yards.
58:52So overall, it looks like the Broncos defense bounced back, but some of our favorite players still got there with the Jacks.
58:59Yeah, definitely a much better like, hey, let's respect ourselves outing from the Broncos defense here.
59:04According to next gen stats, Trevor Lawrence was under pressure on 40% of his dropbacks and it really felt like that.
59:10Like if you could pick one knit with this Jaguars offensive just ecosystem here, and I don't even know that this is
59:17really a knit, it might actually be a problem.
59:19Like pass pro is the issue, especially right up the gut.
59:23I mean, Zach Allen was dominant in this game.
59:25He took Emmanuel Pregnon, the rookie guard, for a ride several times here.
59:29Zach Allen's just one of the more like under, maybe underappreciated nationally defenders in the NFL.
59:34He was excellent in this game. Their tackling was better, but still, Basial Tootin was able to get home.
59:39Tootin had the wildcat touchdown. He had a couple of really nice runs in this game.
59:44I don't think he's going to be some massive RB1 hit in fantasy, but he's pretty clearly their best back and somebody
59:51that is going to continue to get there. I think if you're looking for like touchdowns and obviously some bigger plays, I
59:57think they'll continue to give him more and more work.
60:00He was impressive to me in this one. Not overwhelming, but pretty impressive.
60:04And in the passing game, it was kind of what we have expected here where Parker Washington was awesome.
60:10Parker Washington even like maybe left a couple of plays on the field and Trevor Lawrence's interception was like reverting to bad habits.
60:17Trevor were, I don't really know what he was doing with a little bit of pressure and he throws it basically right
60:23to Riley Moss who had him blanketed man coverage there.
60:26BTJ had a couple of nice moments, but it's not going to really be great for you in fantasy because he's still
60:33running a lot of those clear out routes. And there was one play where, I mean, it was unfortunately like he's going
60:39in the air looking for that defender to hit him before the ball gets there and ultimately he ends up dropping it.
60:46So nice moments for BTJ, but it remains the Parker Washington show in Jacksonville as expected.
60:51Are we not at the point where it's Parker Washington fringe top 15 fantasy wide receiver and you can't start the other two guys?
60:58I mean, looking at it, Jacoby Myers, it's 5% targets per route this season and he just never get like, why will
61:04you scheme up the ball to Jacoby Myers? Like I get that he's a big part of the offense in other ways,
61:11but like you don't need to actually throw the ball to him.
61:14And then once again, in the non-11 personnel snaps, Brian Thomas won out of 21.
61:19Travis Hunter had more snaps in the non-three wide receiver sets than Brian Thomas in this one.
61:24So like brutal. I mean, I don't think that is the pecking order like on display.
61:29That's designated X stuff right there. Do you think they can move a trade?
61:33A trade? Like do you think that if they kind of need him though?
61:37Like who else is going to do that? Yeah, they do kind of need him because what about Josh?
61:43Can he do that stuff? Yeah, no, Josh. No, I don't think so.
61:46Josh Cameron is like he's actually going to make I know it's only been two games, but he's going to make a
61:53nice little career for himself as a dirty work guy.
61:56The problem is like they already have a dirty work guy in Jacoby Myers and I don't know that you're not ready to throw.
62:03Yeah, he's basically Jacoby Myers, but like the very, very poor man's version.
62:07But he again had some really nice blocks in this game.
62:10So there's there's that question to raise point. If Brian Thomas Jr.
62:14is barely playing in three or two wide receiver sets and only in three wide receiver sets and they get to a
62:20point where they actually feel comfortable with Travis Hunter playing more in offense.
62:24Couldn't they just play him in that X receiver spot and then move BTJ for like a second round pick if not more.
62:31Would they get a second round pick for him right now?
62:34Probably, probably, but I don't know. I mean, it's just probably a second round pick and it might be worth it if
62:41they were willing to give Travis Hunter that kind of work and like Hunter had some moments at corner today.
62:47He did actually draw a DPI against Corlin Sutton.
62:49That was a very obvious DPI and yet Liam Cohen still went absolutely ballistic to the point that he got a personal
62:56foul and that like they had the two penalties in one moment.
63:00Liam was hot in the second half because that offense just like I said, just completely hit the wall.
63:05Matt, my final question is on Basial Tootin. If we can throw back on that Michael F.
63:10Florio tweet with the usage. This backfield was split three different ways, but Basial Tootin had the vast majority at over 50%, right?
63:17So we still don't have like a pure explosive from Basial Tootin.
63:21His longest rush here went for 16 yards, but Matt, if we're just talking about like stacking good weeks and forced missed
63:27tackles and not falling on your face and earning more and more trust, isn't Basial Tootin doing that to the degree where
63:34we shouldn't really even factor in Chris Rodriguez and this equation at all so far.
63:38Yeah, we talked about this on Fantasy Football Live this morning.
63:42Chris Rodriguez, one of the most dropped players in Fantasy last week.
63:45And yeah, I mean, he's going to totally need an injury to be relevant because he's not even getting goal line work.
63:52So yeah, I mean Tootin, again, it's probably Josh touchdown or bust a little bit with Basial Tootin because of the role.
63:58But this is an offense that, again, it was disappointing in the second half, especially today, but is generally one that I
64:05think is going to score a lot of touchdowns.
64:07So I'm fine. Banking on him as probably more of like a really, really good flex play, but certainly someone I would
64:14not mind being my running back to. All right, Hayden, the overtime game in week two, Green Bay Packers narrowly beat out
64:20Aaron Glenn's New York Jets by getting a field goal in overtime after, you know, the Jets had their opportunity as well.
64:27I'm looking at the stat sheet and we talked all week about the high flying Packers passing game and it's Jordan Love
64:3416 of 29 for 145 yards, two touchdowns, three sacks taken.
64:37Again, the back field goes 18 carries for 63 yards and I'm looking at it and it's just Matthew going four for 58, Christian Watson four for 41.
64:45What the heck happened and do we need to slow our roll a little bit?
64:50The Packers did a full 180 across the board.
64:52They were great on special teams. They were great on defense.
64:56They couldn't run the ball and then the pass game was a little bit hit and miss as well.
65:01I think maybe the most shocking part about this performance is they had 24 series.
65:06The Green Bay did. They started with a rush on 16 of them.
65:10Did it? Did it work? It absolutely didn't work.
65:12Marshawn Lloyd was really bad in this one. They got Caleb Johnson going by the way.
65:17Marshawn Lloyd fumbles the ball sometime in the fourth quarter.
65:20He plays one snap out of the next 22 afterwards.
65:23It was almost all Chris Brooks and then they got Caleb Johnson running the ball.
65:27From my eyes, I think that Caleb Johnson was maybe even a little better than Marshawn Lloyd to the point.
65:33You looked all right. I agree. I think Lloyd's just done.
65:37It's just not going to happen with Marshawn Lloyd.
65:39You cannot start Marshawn Lloyd next week after this performance and Josh Jacob's coming back.
65:44I think just zooming out further, the Packers they lost the right tackle Zach Bacoboelle who was air casted on the first drive.
65:51He's probably going to be out for the season.
65:53They're rotating a bunch of players on the interior.
65:56One of them hurt his hand early on in that game.
65:59The rest of the offensive linemen were terrible in this one.
66:02Part of the reason why they couldn't run the ball effectively is because of the ground game and they didn't run that many plays.
66:10It was 46 plays before the over overtime situation because they just could not like run the ball well and they were trying to run the ball.
66:18They were kind of bleeding clock over there. At least the Packers run defense stopped the breeze hall Braylon Allen one to punch.
66:24They finally get the ball in overtime and win this one.
66:28It was not the cleanest game at all. Tucker Craft played a whole lot more in this one.
66:33I guess like the big storyline here. Jaden Reed early early in the game spine board has a neck injury staying overnight
66:40at the hospital has a feeling in his extremities, but you just never like to see the neck injuries in particular.
66:46So that's probably going to be quite a while.
66:49The floor after the game did not seem very optimistic there.
66:52He was really talking up Lucas Van Ness who was awesome in this one.
66:56He was really talking up his defensive coordinator. He said he has an elite defensive coordinator and they did look pretty good,
67:03but you did not hear a whole lot about the offense because quite frankly, they shouldn't be talking about it.
67:08Okay. Hey, to follow up on that. We just talked about the Jaguars and how, you know, they played the Browns in
67:15week one and you know, it's much different blocking the Broncos than it is the Browns and the front five might be a problem.
67:22Are we at the point where the Packers front five is a problem?
67:26Obviously not just for the running game, but also from the passing department.
67:30Yeah, it's it's getting to that point. I mean, Zach Tom historically has been like their best offensive lineman.
67:36He's going to be out for the year now.
67:38So yeah, it's going to be really tough. Tucker Craft was out there for the for most of the snaps in the
67:45floor after the game said that they almost had to play him at one of the tackle spots because they lost so many offensive line.
67:52It was like that's like the state. That's the state of the Packers right now.
67:57I will say this. It's pretty evident who the ball is going to Christian Watson is getting some like goal line work.
68:03He has another touchdown right at the goal line.
68:06He's obviously the biggest threat for an explosive the way they're getting the ball to Matthew Golden.
68:11It wasn't like the craziest game ever here, but like on a per route basis, like another win for Matthew Golden.
68:17It's the Romeo Dobbs role. It's a lot of like, you know, hitches third and three like quick slant routes.
68:23You had to slant in the red zone. So there's a lot of like little things that are going to Matthew Golden.
68:30He's just like way more likely to rip off, you know, a 50 yard game than Romeo Dobbs.
68:35So I think Matthew Golden remains a start. Christian Watson is going to be an excellent player.
68:40He left for a second with after getting hit over the middle.
68:44But I think watching the Packers like this offensive line is getting to the point where Ray like you cannot start a
68:50running back for the Packers next week. Like there's no way.
68:53I wasn't starting Marshawn Lloyd this week. Chris Brooks is playing too much.
68:57And hey, not just because people are going to ask because people want to chase this backfield.
69:02Like Caleb Johnson, is he even worth? We're not doing that either.
69:06Are we not? We're not. Okay. Let the people, because they're going to ask.
69:10Hey, you know they're going to ask. He had eight years.
69:13They're going to ask. So you got to, you got to let, you got to tell people so they don't break their
69:20pocketbook trying to spend for Caleb Johnson. Everybody wants this backfield to be Josh Jacobson.
69:24The reality is none of them are right. None of those guys are him.
69:29So we probably should stop chasing the mythical production that eight gave people when he was, when he was active.
69:34Yeah. That was just like multiple offensive lines ago when Josh Jacobs was like a fun fantasy asset and that's not coming back.
69:41I would say Caleb Johnson easily is the favorite for most carries next week.
69:46They're not going to go anywhere and it's probably going to be some semblance of a committee.
69:51Zero, zero. And the floor said that he's still learning the past protection rules and all that type of stuff after the game.
69:57So it's like, it's a nothing there. It's Tucker craft.
70:00Like he's at least playing enough now, but he's not as featured.
70:04It's Matthew golden. It's Christian Watson. That's it for green Bay.
70:07But those, both of those picks are going to be very good ones this year.
70:12Okay. Hey, and I need to ask about the jets here because Gino goes 27 of 41 to 47.
70:17One touchdown does take four sacks and some long sacks at that, but Brees Hall, 16 carries for only 29 yards, including a long gain of 14.
70:25So if I want to do the math, that's 15 carries for 15 yards besides that.
70:30But he's also this team's leading receiver with five targets, five receptions, 63 yards.
70:34But the frustration is there's no touchdown in his column, but there is for Braylon Allen on five carries for seven yards.
70:41It was a five yard touchdown as a first in goal in the second quarter for Braylon Allen.
70:46So, you know, that's like fringe goal line work for him.
70:49And then later in the game fourth and one, everything on the line for the jets.
70:54They run it out of shotgun with Braylon Allen.
70:57That gets stuck. Lucas Van Ness flies around and makes a big play there.
71:01So I guess like on those two critical moments, it was Braylon Allen.
71:05The good news is everything else went to Brees Hall and the boxer is not going to agree with me.
71:11I think Brees Hall looks really good and really healthy.
71:14There's been like too many seasons in a row where I felt like, man, like he's just like not making guys miss.
71:20And if you guys watch his 43 yard screen game, he had a jump cut there that like, I mean, he's got
71:27to be 233 pounds or something like that. He's a big dude.
71:30He should not be jumping laterally like that. So I think that Brees Hall is going to have good moments here, even
71:37though he's like losing some of the critical work.
71:40The reality is he had 16 carries and then five targets in this one last week when he was splitting time, he touched the ball 20 times.
71:48So that's back to back games in a row where they touch the ball 20 times and the Jets offense.
71:54It wasn't a great offense, but this is like definitely a tier above what we're dealing with the last couple of years with a way worse quarterback play.
72:02Hayden, can I ask you about 80 Mitchell's 12 targets?
72:05I'm sure that was a journey was a rollercoaster.
72:08What was the journey like for you? It was a journey.
72:11It's very clear that he's heavily involved. It wasn't that like everything was down the football field either, which is I mean,
72:17obviously there's gonna be a lot of it like that, but there was a couple plays underneath like right away in this one Garrett Wilson.
72:25It was at least getting close to halftime before his first reception, but they still it's the same type of offense.
72:31It's a lot of 11 personnel. I think it's about 70% of them there.
72:35They're replacement in a slot for Omar Cooper, Isaiah Williams.
72:38He had a couple plays late in the game and he's got a little bit of bully ball to him underneath there,
72:45but I don't know Mitchell very involved in this one and it's not gonna be nearly as like balanced of an attack.
72:51Obviously you have those two running backs like to some degree it is, but that was a lot of dropbacks in this
72:58one and I thought Gina Smith like played fine enough ball and I saw the Green Bay like their defense like really stepped up in general.
73:06I want to buy stock of the Jets for because I look they they look competent right now or if not good
73:12in some moments and then this is their schedule coming up.
73:15Okay, Lions Bears Browns then the Patriots and then the Dolphins after that.
73:19I mean four of those next five games are some of the worst defenses that we've seen in NFL so far.
73:26So I kind of like these Jets assets and like you said Hayden outside of one or two brilliant Allen touches here or there.
73:33It is very centralized of the pieces that we should care about and compared to all the other teams that we've got to have won this game.
73:41They should have won this game. They should have won this game.
73:44Yep. All right. Let's talk about the Bengals and the Texans.
73:48Oh and two for the Texans to know for the Bengals as Cincinnati wins 20 to six.
73:53It won't show up in EPA. Minus 0.5 for the day.
73:56But I thought Joe Burrow had a hell of a performance came in with a back injury.
74:01His left tackle in Orlando Brown was struggling all day long.
74:04I mean Will Anderson Danell Hunter from both sides sacks quarterback hits everything but Joe Burrow powered through it and created when
74:11he needed to whether that was T Higgins on a bunch of end breakers or really two magical touchdowns to Jamar Chase.
74:17The first one the catch of the day a twisting one-on-one rep versus Derek Stingley at the front right pylon for 32 yards.
74:24We got the dots. Look at that. I mean it looks like he's going to slip but he controls gets both feet
74:31down and then after halftime Joe Burrow avoids upfield disruption breaks the arm tackle sack in the backfield gets out into free
74:37space and chase gets free on a crossing route for a 19 yard touchdown.
74:41Again T got in on the action. In fact he's the team's leading receiver 10 targets five receptions 95 yards a third
74:48and five incredible rep also against Derek Stingley on the sideline.
74:51So again with Burrow nursing that back injury coming in he got hit he got tested and he looked back to some
74:58of his best self and on the opposite end everything was so difficult here for the Houston Texans.
75:03CJ Stroud might have had like one good play one good throw every single drive.
75:08They did their best to work the middle of the fields with wide receivers and especially tight ends.
75:13That's why you see Dalton Schultz especially at the end some garbage time stuff with top 12 receptions 140 yards on 14
75:19freaking targets but the run game was non existent.
75:22I mean these guys combined for 14 carries for 18 total yards.
75:26Dexter Lawrence was dominant including a fourth and inches stop on David Montgomery one on one.
75:30I think they might have run the ball with their running backs a total of four times in the entire second half.
75:37So what worked for them last week I'll be at just in touchdowns and not necessarily on a yards per carry basis here Harmon.
75:44We're back to the drawing board here with the Texans offensive line and their rushing attack.
75:49Yeah big step back because at least in week one you know they were definitely not explosive.
75:54I don't think either of these guys marks or Montgomery is going to be explosive but it kind of feels like they're
76:00at least just watching it in week one and I felt like seeing some of it today is just like when they
76:07can really get these guys going downhill there's a there's maybe some semblance of a run game but when they're trying to
76:14do a lot of like zone stuff past things it doesn't it doesn't really work.
76:18Yeah it's it's a mess for this team. So I also think too like this is just one of those teams that
76:25when you don't have your wide receiver one and Nico Collins you're you're effed and I feel like this team is if
76:31he has to miss next week to against the Colts a team he usually tears up I think they're probably going to be effed again.
76:39Yeah. Hey and correct me if I'm wrong but it sounded like this morning they reported as like a possible multi-week thing
76:45here with Nico Collins is that correct? God. Yeah.
76:48Yeah. I mean it's probably gonna be another week or so it didn't say they didn't put him on IR so I'll
76:54be back soon enough but I agree with you guys I mean it doesn't matter if he's not out there I mean
77:01this offensive line I always felt like every single offseason they're like they change the offensive line it'll get better it was
77:07like but they're not adding anybody good on the offensive lines like why should we expect different results I mean that that's
77:14a problem they had one successful run in this one the bottom zero percentile in games here negative 0.8 EPA per run
77:20for the Texans here six of them went backwards according to our friend Nate Tice over there I mean that's that's like
77:27predictable to like that's I think the sad part about this and last week David Montgomery got home but like on two
77:34plays and then the other 16 plays went nowhere and if you're looking at like success rate right now like the Texans
77:40run game is one of the worst in the league.
77:43Yeah the Bengals today the according to next year's stats the highest pressure rate since Al Golden has taken over is DC
77:5043 and a half percent pressure rate all the investments on the defensive side of the ball eight sacks four force fumbles
77:56and one touchdown this season I did that the defense is giving them a chance in this this Houston Texas team Owen
78:03to right now it doesn't look like Nico is going to play we talked about it last week with Monty at the
78:0920 carries but if you watched it it didn't look particularly great like this is a problem for Houston without Nico Collins
78:16and again these teams that don't have answers for the primary being out and there are no secondary options that truly threaten
78:22the defense it just makes tough sledding for us in fantasy trying to chase these other things I'm like we're at a
78:29point y'all where we just need to say like there are certain teams where you want one guy or we don't even
78:35want to mess around with anybody in Houston it's like you know I don't want to tell people to feel like you
78:42have to just jam Montgomery and depending on who they play if Nico's not out there this was bad they look bad
78:49yep something I do want to watch for the Bengals they are much better along the defensive line again Dexter Lawrence was
78:55both eating and splitting double teams and just living in the backfield and they are quite deep along edge rusher despite you
79:02know losing Trey Hendrickson they have like a bunch of names including Shamar Stewart who got a sack here and you know
79:08CJ Stroud took four sacks in this game but their linebacker area that middle of the field is maybe something that's a
79:15bit susceptible to to where they they can get got so that's something I want to keep in mind with some talents
79:21against them moving forward yeah I mean look Kayshawn Booty three for 37 Xavier Hutchinson three for 37 I mean Foster Moreau
79:28pops up for a 25 yarder Jared Wayne pops up for an 18 yarder they just honestly the best running back moment
79:34that they had was a third and 12 that Woody Marks took and then barreled through some defenders and got the first
79:41down so it's it's rough and then again on the Bengals I'll just close with some of the under center work really
79:47helped chase Brown in terms of the rushing like sure 20 for 80 in a normal game might not be great I'll
79:54take 20 for 80 every single day of the week against Houston Texans defense along with three extra catches so I thought
80:00chase Brown was very dependable on this and got almost all of the work and this Bengals offensive line was tested they
80:07had their moments in terms of sacks and quarterback hits at the same time they did just enough to like give protection
80:14and for the Bengals to win this one in the end okay we'll move it on I mean we might look back
80:20on this as the biggest upset of the season Cleveland Browns freaking won a game and it wasn't until week 12 it
80:27was in week 2 23 to 19 after like a six-hour weather delay here Harmon oh my god I'm looking at the
80:33box score Deshaun Watson 24 of 30 to 38 to touchdowns compare that to Baker Mayfield 21 of 34 182 one touchdown
80:40one interception looks like Deshaun was the much better quarterback here yeah this is Deshaun Watson's best game in a Cleveland Browns
80:46uniform by EPA per drop back which is outrageous so it's the eighth best game he's had since the 2020 season these
80:53are all the dates that are ahead of today's 0.2 EPA per drop back November 26 2020 October 18th 2020 November 22nd
80:592020 October 11th 2020 December 27th 2020 the 1st of January in 2021 a playoff game and then the 8th of November
81:06in 2020 so it's like Deshaun Watson's best game since the pandemic season and that is just embarrassing it's humiliating how bad
81:12the Bucks defense is right now that was one of my biggest takeaways from this game and frankly was one of my
81:19biggest takeaways from the first week their linebackers are brutal in coverage Alex Anzalone has been one of the worst I'm sorry
81:26this is really mean but he's been one of the worst players in football through the first two weeks he's been a
81:32disaster free agent signing can't tackle there's no underneath coverage like this was a moment where Deshaun didn't even really have to
81:39force it and could just kind of take what the defense gave him because the defense was giving him everything and this
81:45is like a consistent if I was a Bucks fan I'd be irate right now because this is a consistent theme with
81:52Todd Bowles's defense as the replies to that Deshaun Watson tweet reminded me and I was like folks I don't need a
81:58reminder that every every bad quarterback looks great against this defense because it's just like if you can find especially if you're
82:05a veteran if you can find the open spots where the blitz are coming it's going to be there and you can
82:11just kind of again matriculate the football down the field as Deshaun Watson did in this game I mean it's like this
82:18is a guy they wanted to bench there were reports this morning about how like they basically were all ready to bench
82:24him after this game and start Shador Sanders in week three in the home opener and he won the football game and
82:31had his best game in years like the Bucks defense and the offense isn't great we'll talk about but the Bucks defense
82:37is really bad if you want like a fantasy relevant take Denzel Boston was awesome in this game I can't believe this
82:44guy was a second round pick he ran the most routes among all the receivers you know Casey Concepcion and Jerry Judy
82:51are a little bit like redundant in some of the targets that they get which is a little bit of a problem
82:57for Casey because he does get a lot of designery stuff but yeah Boston could have even had a bigger game too
83:04because he had like a tight coverage go route that he lost at the very very last second along the left sideline
83:10so 94% team high in the routes rate made made a bunch of guys miss on his post route touchdown where he
83:17just took off so Boston's been really good a standout player for this team which was a consistent drumbeat in training camp
83:23in OTAs and has definitely led into the season he is a hit for them I like the fact that they got
83:30hero fanning involved Matt and I know that he didn't get a lot until late in the game last week but the
83:36fact that he was involved in the offense today was good and again not trying to be mean here but leaving Jerry
83:43Judy out of the mix they need to just roll with Boston and fanning and Casey Concepcion it didn't look like they
83:49fooled around with Jerry Judy a lot can you just talk about fanning juniors involvement and then when I'm just looking at
83:56the box score right 19 yard average for it for Denzel Boston I know the big play was a big part of
84:03that but 10.8 yards per catch for Harold fanning to the 4.7 for conception on I would like for them to give
84:09him some more real route stuff inside this offense but talk about fanning at that tight end spot six targets for him
84:16as well yeah they kind of need to just get like Judy off the team I think because he's still running like
84:2269% of the routes and if he's not getting targeted yeah they should and you know I don't know it's like a
84:29wide receiver needy team he's just such a mercurial player as Jerry Judy I it's tough to find a home for him
84:35but yeah fanning was good in this game he had one third down drop in the first quarter but that was the
84:42only target that went his way that he didn't catch so he was definitely useful again he's he's like tight ends are
84:48gonna are gonna smoke this team all season the Tampa Buccaneers because they can't cover with their linebackers right now I'm getting
84:55a little bit nervous with the Browns and that Boston's pretty good fanning's pretty good Concepcion's pretty good Quinch on Judkins is
85:01pretty good like almost to the point where you might start them and then here comes the rug pull in the next
85:08time so that's yes that's like that's like that was in the back of my mind I did want to say on
85:14Jerry Judy the Browns would save almost four million dollars if they can trade them and like they should just figure that
85:21out like that's a tradable contract who do you think wants him that's that's the problem who wants him I mean I
85:28don't know that yeah I mean there will be teams that use someone like yeah yeah there's always a team that could
85:34that could frankly I hate I hate to say this because it'd be nice if they could just have like a real
85:41professional wide receiver but he would actually make sense for the Chiefs because they have no one who can beat man coverage
85:47and like Jerry Jerry Judy can run TikTok TikTok routes and beat man coverage so Mahomes like sitting there buying some time
85:54for Judy's like six second routes to get open that actually might make a little bit of sense Matt I have to
86:00ask about the Buccaneers okay they gave Baker Mayfield the contract in the 11th hour prior to the season if you go
86:07back to last year the Bucs have now lost nine of their last 11 games Todd Bowles has seen Dave Canales go
86:13on to be his OC and then a head coach Liam Cohen his OC to go be a head coach Grizzard fired
86:20after one year I saw Buccaneers fans already calling for Zach Robinson's head as offensive coordinator here Bucky Irving great with 17
86:26carries for 89 yards that's 5.2 yards per pop then I look at the pass catching Emeka Buga sweet a touchdown but
86:33on five targets three reception 16 yards Chris Godwin three for 46 and Tez Johnson is the leading receiver one for 49
86:40is this already broken there's so much like Tez Johnson in this offense and and then when they came back from the
86:46two minute like for all they came back into the two minute drill because they let the game stopped when they were
86:53going into the two minute and then it was about six hours later that the game resumed they were peppering Tez Ted
86:59Hurst and to the point that like he almost had what would have been the game winning touchdown he it just eventually
87:06slipped like out of his hands at the very last minute so that's been a little bit rocky obviously Jalen McMillan is
87:12not healthy which has been the story for Jalen McMillan unfortunately as a player they they're one of they're very similar to
87:19the Chargers to me Joshua just feels like they've got a lot going on not from like a personnel standpoint they do
87:25kind of just run out the same group of players like they're an 11 personnel team a book is on the field
87:32all the time Godwin's on the field all time K to Otten is on the field all the time and then it
87:38is kind of in this one a little bit more rotating between our guy Ted Hurst and Tez Johnson I mean not
87:45that they're either of our guys but you know what I'm saying like they actually do this is a team that needs
87:52a second tight end badly because they're a little bit predictable and the most that they can do is like mess around
87:58with the funky motions and stuff which like a book gets open on he could he was open for the fourth down
88:05what would have been the game winning touchdown Baker just missed him like whistles once again just a flat out like an
88:11accurate yeah it was even bad through two through two games there's no question like and this wasn't even the just you
88:18know poop your pants mistakes that he made in the first one where he's just careless with the football this was like
88:24inaccurate he's overthrowing guys he get his interception like they're running a bunch of man coverage in early on in this game
88:31are the Cleveland Browns they mix it up with a one zone coverage look and he just gets fooled by a drop
88:37defender and it's like dude you're so deep into your career at this point you cannot make that throw so it was
88:44a it was another bad Baker game unfortunately Herman can I just ask you like no data no stats just eye test
88:50and feel watching the game because to me isn't another one of those inexcusable losses what is the difference between this year's
88:57Tampa Bay Buccaneers offense and the offense that we saw with Mike Evans healthy last year with the book in his role
89:03looking like the next coming of a star receiver in the NFL like just what is going on in Tampa Bay I
89:10don't know man and and like the offensive line hasn't hasn't been quite like the dominant unit that you would think especially
89:17in the pass protection game which makes it worse for Baker Mayfield it does feel like things need to be white hot
89:23for Mayfield to really run well I don't know the whole team is just there's a lot of malaise to it right
89:30now you know Todd Bowles is back and Todd Bowles doesn't really have answers on either side of the ball nobody's really
89:36playing up to their potential because I think the offense is just like I said there's a lot going on here with
89:43all the shifts and the motions and they just feel very disorganized they just need like a they need a settle down
89:49moment to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers but I think it is going to be a problem that the defense is so bad
89:56too because it's going to put them in a lot of these situations where they need to throw the ball their mistake
90:02was letting Liam Cohen go I mean it was it would have been painful to do it Todd Bowles like won a
90:09Super Bowl not too long before that but Liam Cohen had the good stuff and Todd Bowles defense been really hard at
90:15least with the Buccaneers next week they only have to face the Vikings defense so right on set.
90:21Oh my God, Minnesota. Everything that we've learned though Hayden through two weeks is that Baker Mayfield is about to throw for
90:27350 and four touchdowns probably the Vikings defense when everything is so unpredictable.
90:31What one more thing about this game? One more thing about this game, Josh.
90:35It stinks by the way if you have Quinchon Judkins on your roster that this is a game they won and he still did.
90:42I mean he scammed his way to five catches but he still did absolutely nothing on the ground.
90:48Not great. Yep. Okay, let's talk about a good team.
90:51Seattle Seahawks are 2 and 0. They demolished the Arizona Cardinals 31 to 37.
90:55Ray, I see a hat trick of touchdowns from JSN like he thinks he's Brian Brabby.
91:00Nine receptions, 155 yards, three scores on just 11 targets.
91:03We can talk about that before we get into this backfield weirdness.
91:06So just overall with the Seahawks 19 of 26 for Drew Locke, 235 three scores.
91:11Compare that to Jacoverset against the Seattle defense, 17 of 28, just 95 yards, two sacks taken there too.
91:16Yeah, this one might be a little quicker of a recap and I guess we can focus in on individuals because it
91:23never really felt like Arizona had a chance. I meant that Jackson Smith and Jigba 82 yarder was on the second play
91:29from scrimmage for Seattle and we said this last week about Carson Wentz getting the ball to Justin Jefferson.
91:35Drew Locke understood the assignment. Get the ball to Jackson Smith and Jigba.
91:39Now Rashid Shaheed did have I think six or seven targets in the game, but it was it was JSN with another
91:4640 percent target share outing and I know a lot of people said this thing again.
91:50Remember that the conversation that I he probably can't repeat that again.
91:54I don't know if he's gonna get like it's all Jackson Smith and Jigba career high.
91:59He's running open. He's catching short deep. It doesn't matter in that that 82 yarder wasn't busted coverage.
92:04I mean it's a filthy double move. I don't know why you were singled up on him anyway.
92:09Touchdown. I mean drew lock get the ball to Jackson Smith and Jigba.
92:13There's really nobody else that you feel confident starting at least from the pass catcher side of the ball.
92:19It's just this is again a good team and I am going to continue this theme of coaches and offensive coordinators.
92:25Give blind furry credit this this dude. There is a fullback number 38 that Russell is his last name make fullbacks great
92:32again because my goodness they are orbit like they're orbit motioning him back into the backfield and then getting him to kick
92:38out the edge rushers and just opening up lanes for Emmanuel Wilson whoever else is back there running the ball, but it's it's creative.
92:45I like what I'm seeing this team as well coached.
92:48They've got a great defense, but offensively it's Jackson Smith and Jigba full stop.
92:52Yeah. Okay, 40 percent. I have to ask about this backfield ray.
92:56The Seahawks played forever ago in week one, but just the box score reads 13 carries for 52 yards for Jadarian price
93:03with a long gain of 25 and then Emmanuel Wilson who only played the short yard stuff in week one 21 carries for 92 yards.
93:10So was this hey the Seahawks are way up on the scoreboard?
93:14So we gave Emmanuel Wilson more or was this how it was throughout the game and not only do we have a
93:20bit of a Helani split, we also have an Emmanuel Wilson split with Jadarian.
93:24Okay, so we did get George Helani out of the way so that we can we can move on from that.
93:31It was Jadarian price early. He did fumble the ball and I thought oh fumble from Jadarian price.
93:36You lost it Emmanuel, but they went back to him.
93:39What ended up happening late Josh was they said rib injury a chest injury is what it said and then a lot
93:45of the Twitter doctors were saying that aka means ribs and once that happened once he took a shot, it was a
93:52outside zone play try to cut it back took a big hit.
93:55You didn't see him anymore. I'm almost positive Emmanuel Wilson had eight straight rush attempts in the fourth quarter.
94:01It was just Wilson Wilson Wilson. He said a career high in the game.
94:05I know Wilson in the game career high. So this wasn't like it was a true split between those two.
94:11It was a lot of Jadarian price early and again, he looked good, but it's just like one play break the tackle
94:18hit the big play, but I thought he played well and look well, but we're gonna have to monitor the chest slash
94:24rib injury, but Emmanuel Wilson was clearly the guy not George Helani after that injury took place.
94:29Okay, I'm worried. I mean worried. Well that that just makes it sound like in an alternate timeline.
94:35That's not too far from this one. Jadarian price could have just had a monster week to and we just get really excited moving forward.
94:42Hey, I hear you. I hear you. Hey, hey, not hear you man, and I'm not trying to I'm not trying to
94:49cope or make up for it, but something had happened to him and they just took him out.
94:54He didn't play they were up and they were just salting the game away.
94:58So it would have been a perfect opportunity to let him run the rock.
95:02They he went and checked out by the trainers and they didn't play him anymore.
95:07So the report was injury even after the fumble they went right back to him and started to give him touches.
95:13So I really do think that at least in this case it was something injury related as to why especially in the
95:20fourth quarter you didn't see him down the stretch much.
95:23Okay, let's talk the Cardinals here. Um, we know last season went down 31 to 7 or 21 to 7 entering fourth quarters.
95:29That's when they sparked up. That's when Jacoba set flew it all over the yard.
95:34Uh, you can't do that against Seattle. It's much more difficult.
95:37And so now through two weeks, Marvin Harrison jr has one catch for 33 yards.
95:42Uh, Kendrick Bourne pops up for two for 11 here.
95:45Michael Wilson, two for 18. Jeremiah love has a total of 12 touches for 45 yards.
95:49And Trey McBride is the only one that gets home on 10 targets, eight receptions, 41 yards and a score.
95:55Uh, no one should have been Cardinals curious today.
95:58Is that fair? No, no, we are not. We are not Cardinals curious against the Seahawks.
96:03I just want to make that statement very well known.
96:06This was honestly, this was BTA situation. This was built to, you know, what the Seahawks were just the better team.
96:12If you just look at time of possession, Arizona only had the ball for 23 minutes in the game.
96:18That's it. They did not have the ball. They rarely had the ball.
96:21They couldn't do much besides throw the ball to Trey McBride.
96:25Jeremiah love nothing. Tyler Algier, uh, every time they threw it to him, I'm like, who is this with the ball?
96:31And why is he moving so slow? Just complete slug out there when he's trying to matriculate the ball down the field.
96:38Like why is Jeremiah love? And when you see this two seven touches, isn't like this great number that you want, but that's a nap.
96:45Like that should be Jeremiah loves work. Not that he was any better, but he was out there.
96:50Slow as all get out. They barely had the ball.
96:53And then offensively I'm done y'all I'm done. I've made excuses.
96:57I've, I've made videos about it. I've looked at the routes.
97:00Marv, his demeanor on the sideline. He's not even a part of the game plan.
97:04It's Trey McBride. It's Michael Wilson. It's throw the ball to anybody other than number 18.
97:09And I'm not going to just give it. It wasn't like Witherspoon was man to man on him.
97:14Josh Jobe is good, but my goodness, you're Marvin Harrison Jr.
97:18The fourth overall pick you're supposed to be this guy.
97:21I'm done. I think it, it, it, that's it.
97:23Looney tunes curtain. That's all folks. You're talking about trading receivers around.
97:27What's the likelihood he gets his, his tail moved because he's not a part of this game plan, not a party offense.
97:33I'm done. Matt, I'll throw this to you is in 10 team leagues is Marvin Harrison droppable.
97:39We're talking about a 6% targets per route right now.
97:41And I don't know what's going to change. Like you don't have to drop them, but like, if you had to, like,
97:48I think that he's firmly like on that list.
97:51Yeah. And 10 teams. I mean, also, by the way, 0% of people should be start, should have started him today.
97:570% of people. Like there was no reason to think he was going to have a big game in this one.
98:03And I mean, I'll still like hold a little candle for Marv.
98:07But I mean, yeah, it just, what do you want to do?
98:10Like this is an offensive through for 95 yards today.
98:13And he's the guy that runs the sacrificial routes.
98:16Matt, you're not even holding the candle. You're holding the match that's burned down to the bottom and it's the little wood stick.
98:23Like that's what we're holding at this point for Marv, man.
98:26Yeah. I think Mike LaFour was asked about Marv at the end of the game.
98:31And he said, I'm quote, not concerned. All right.
98:33You're just lying. Like you're just straight up lying.
98:36If that, if that's the case. Okay. Let's move on.
98:39Eagles fans were incredibly concerned. I mean, Broadway might've burned down if they went to Nashville and lost to the Cincy Titans,
98:45but in the end, a final drive touchdown to put it on 24 to 20 Hayden.
98:50I'm looking all across the board and this seems all over the place for the Eagles offense.
98:55And Jalen Hurts has two interceptions, but also two touchdowns.
98:58Uh, looks like Saquon Barkley left for the vast majority of the game.
99:02So tank Bigsby gets here for 13 carries, 33 yards and one touchdown move around.
99:07Some offensive lineman did not work from rushing game standpoint, but the headliner or two Devante Smith, 10 catches, 117 yards in a score.
99:14And then Don Tavion wicks five for 74. Devante Smith was the best player in this game.
99:19Jalen Hurts was second. And then Don Tavion wicks made a couple of key plays in this one, the ground game.
99:25It's, it's almost over. Uh, they moved camp Juergens to left guard and he had a really tough time in both phases.
99:32He obviously had to face Jeffrey Simmons who absolutely just, uh, crumbled the pocket, uh, pocket for one of the Jalen Hurts interceptions.
99:38But through the first two games, they have a 32% success rate on early down runs.
99:43That is dead last in the NFL. Maybe the Texans are right there, uh, after their game was over, but they just can't run the ball.
99:51Saquon left in the off the, off the first play with a stinger.
99:55He comes back after halftime plays about like a dozen snaps and then was not able to, uh, finish the game.
100:01He's had a history of stingers. And when we're talking about like nerves, like you just don't know if that's going to
100:07be a short-term thing or if that can linger a little bit.
100:11So like, we just don't know. It was pretty clear tank.
100:14Bigs can be their early down guy. And then there was quite a bit of Will Shipley in this one, more in the past protection stuff.
100:22But think because we had a patient goal line touchdown.
100:25I think zooming back out with the Eagles, this team kind of just has to live and die by the past, which
100:32sounds crazy, but the run stuff is just not going to work right now with their interior offensive line play.
100:38They have a new center. Now cam Juergens is not himself.
100:41And they, I was listening to some of the Eagles reporters cam Juergens.
100:45He didn't have any reps at guard, um, in this off season.
100:48So like the communication between Juergens and my lot of was really, really bad in this one.
100:53There was two really bad, uh, interceptions, uh, from Jalen hurts.
100:57And I don't want to do like the, but beside that, but beside that Jalen hurts had a really awesome game, throwing
101:03the ball down the field when he held onto the ball for more than three and a half seconds, plus 0.3 EPA per play.
101:10A lot of that was to Devante Smith who had four receptions on this game winning drive there.
101:16Uh, some second phase plays from this duo on top of that.
101:19Uh, but man, this was way too close. And the reason why this was close is because the Eagles can't, uh, run the ball.
101:26I mean, that just is so fricking frustrating to me.
101:29I mean, so frustrating. They do get the bears next.
101:32Like maybe this is a get right spot, but we'll see.
101:36That's let's put a pin in that. Hey, maybe this might be the most positive.
101:40We're going to be about the Tennessee Titans for weeks.
101:43Did cam word play? Well, he did not play bad.
101:46I, I can't say he played well. I mean, neutral, I guess considering the opponent.
101:50Yes. This was a neutral, which is a, which is a win for, for, for cam ward.
101:55There was not like complete back breaking plays that he's had out there.
101:59Uh, I think maybe the surprise part for, uh, the Tennessee Titans is one, there was, uh, kind of the same rotation between the two running backs.
102:07I thought Pollard looked really good. And then at the end of the game, TyJ Spears had a huge play, uh, on the sideline, like third and 32.
102:16Yeah. They had a couple of weird big moments like that.
102:19And then the past game, the guy that stood out the most was Elika human or who hurtled a defender who also
102:25like on a third and 12 had an in cut for a first down.
102:30He was playing a little bit more. And I think that we can throw Calvin Ridley in that conversation with Jerry Judy,
102:36that there's no reason for Calvin Ridley to be on this football team.
102:40Like he, he can be a wide receiver three for, for a team out there.
102:45Uh, and they do seem like they want to get Elika human or going a little bit, nothing from Wondell Robinson, uh, Cardinal Tate up and down game.
102:53I wouldn't say it's a win or a loss for Cardinal Tate in particular.
102:57I would just say versus an Eagles defense that it's like it's Vic Fangio and, uh, a pass rush that can get home.
103:04It was not a bad game from cam board.
103:07And I would consider that a win. I know, uh, all of us have kind of taken shots at cam ward recently,
103:13but, uh, Ray, I would say this was like a passable grade for cam board, which I've not said in quite a while.
103:20You know, I was ready. I was ready. Hey, and I was ready to say something, but it was, I like how you described it.
103:27It wasn't great, but it wasn't awful as well.
103:30I thought some of his receivers, I know Cardinal Tate had alligator arms early in the game.
103:35It would have been a tough catch and get a hit, but he dropped the ball.
103:40I mean, just, I think for me, I know I went on record saying today I'm not trusting and starting any Tennessee
103:46Titan and coming out of this one. Hey, and I don't know if I really feel any better about anybody.
103:52I benched Tony Pollard in our league. Maybe he's playable, but is there, how do you feel about the passing game?
103:59Cardinal Tate, Wondell Robinson, Gunnar Helm, are those guys just bench players?
104:02Just do not start them right now. Yeah. Yeah.
104:05You can't start any of them. Cardinal Tate's probably going to be their best guy this year, but he's not going to have like the gimme targets.
104:13And we didn't get the Wondell Robinson scam touches here.
104:16He only had one target here. Like there will be weeks where we are going to get those scam targets.
104:22I can promise you that Brian Dable can't control himself.
104:25So I would say in a past game, nothing.
104:27Tony Pollard was out there for some of the goal line reps.
104:31He did have twice as many carries as Ty J Spears.
104:34I guess in like a 12 team league, Tony Pollard is like a flex candidate.
104:39I hope you have a better play than that at this point.
104:42And Tony Pollard did get like the first and the second drive.
104:46So it's still Ty J Spears kind of climbing uphill.
104:49I would say you don't want to start any Tennessee Titans.
104:52Like in that, that's coming off of probably one of the best offensive games in, in quite a while.
104:58I think that's my point. And a game that was not bad for Cam Ward, the two players that we drafted or
105:04could theoretically have been drafted as receivers and Colonel Tate and Wondell Robinson did very, very, very little.
105:10Um, and it seemed like you asked, Hey, can anyone be trusted?
105:13Kind of seems like Brian Dable and company didn't want to put this game in Cam Ward's hands to the tune that,
105:20you know, they had 29 carries versus 20 dropbacks.
105:22And that's probably the way to try to beat this Vic Fangio defense, especially when you get kind of two early turnovers on that.
105:30Let's keep it moving. Matt big rebound for the new England Patriots being the Pittsburgh Steelers 20 to three.
105:35Uh, we know the Patriots have no more wide receivers after AJ Brown.
105:39I'm wondering if Aaron Rogers is back to where we were before.
105:43I mean, 23 of 39, one 87. That's a 4.8 yards per attempt for sacks taken on top of it for 43 yards lost.
105:50Uh, and then compare that to the Patriots who get back when they're playmakers in trivia on Henderson and really his 39
105:56yard touchdown early in this game was kind of the difference in the entire game.
106:01Yeah. Um, just quickly on the Patriots, I don't feel great about their offense coming out of this one.
106:06Um, especially as right cackle, Michael, when you, uh, fractured his ankle.
106:10So, I mean, that's a serious injury. They also just kind of lived off explosive plays in this game.
106:16Not just the Travion Henderson one came on a kind of a shotgun draw 39 yard touchdown.
106:21He was almost untouched on that one. Just completely free lane there.
106:24Um, otherwise the run game kind of was what it was.
106:28It was definitely a much better day for Romeo Dobbs though, to, to give credit to Romeo Dobbs.
106:33Like we're saying they have no receivers, but this was actually what you would imagine if you thought about like what Romeo Dobbs would be.
106:40Um, he did have one kind of like what I would say was a drop ish where he's it's behind him and
106:47he's got to like, just make an adjustment to get the hand, get the hands on it.
106:52But he had some explosive plays. Drake may had four plays of 20 plus yards, uh, in this game after zero in
106:58week one, he did also have like kind of a slight fade away interception under pressure on the first drive of the
107:05second half, right after a nice grab from Romeo Dobbs, but that was a terrible pick, uh, from Drake may, but yeah,
107:12Romeo Dobbs read ran the most routes on this team and he was like basically just an outside receiver, which is why
107:18this, the construction of this room is very weird.
107:21Cause if AJ Brown is there, they use him as just a pure outside receiver and Dobbs basically only had success as
107:27kind of like an X receiver for the green Bay Packers.
107:31So the whole room is weird. I don't feel great about them.
107:34Uh, it was a slog of a day for new England offensively.
107:38They just happened to be playing against what I think is a completely, completely hopeless unit in the Pittsburgh series.
107:44Like, honestly guys, I have no, I don't know where they go from here and I don't know where you want me
107:50to start, but they got their butts kicked today, especially upfront.
107:53Like the offensive line was wrecked. Uh, according to next gen stats, Spencer Anderson gave up seven quarterback pressures in this one and also a sack.
108:01So, um, brutal day all around for the passing offense.
108:04I don't know where you guys want me to start, but I mean, I have nothing but really bad things to say.
108:11So what, yeah, what answers do we have? Right.
108:13I see Jalen Warren, 11 carries 43 yards. Rico down all seven for 22.
108:18I think Rico left in the game. He was carded off at one point, came back in the second half.
108:24Okay. Wow. Paul Pierce. Yeah. And then we have the receiving usage, our guy, the gamer and Jeremy Bernard pops up with
108:30the second most targets with eight, four for 35.
108:33And then Matt, I have to ask after DK has hidden yards in week one and the underlying metrics.
108:38Love him. Once again, he pops up with nine targets, the most in the team, but that only equals four for 27.
108:45So is DK Metcalf just almost better in theory than he is in practice?
108:49And how long is that going to last for first on Jeremy Bernard?
108:53Uh, he had like three consecutive catches at one point in this game.
108:57And I was like, Ooh, Jeremy's kind of heating up here.
109:00But, uh, he, his, I think his final target of the day was a bobbled screen pass.
109:05He popped it up into the air and it was ended up going for an interception.
109:10Uh, he did run 86% of the routes, but it was just a pretty brutal moment.
109:15Um, that was, yeah, that was one of the, well, I don't know.
109:19You can't doghouse somebody for turnovers when Aaron Rogers, I mean, he did get lit up at one point.
109:24Uh, sack fumble, they recover the fumble. It ended up being a fourth and 43, by the way, never seen fourth and
109:3143 in my life, but that's how that went.
109:33And then another sack fumble early in the fourth.
109:36So a lot of turnovers, not just from Jeremy Bernard from the quarterback to on DK Metcalf at one point, JJ Watts
109:43said they need DK Metcalf to be, you know, a wide receiver one paraphrasing here.
109:47I'm like, here's the problem boys. He's not like, he hasn't been for several years and they paid him a dumb contract
109:54after that trade that makes him again, where he, he's just, he's just not that guy at this point.
109:59He has 19 targets through two games. Only four players have more targets than that.
110:04I'm on Ross St. Brown, Chris Olave, Trey McBride and Dalton Schultz.
110:07Somehow he has 67 yards. That is the same amount of yards as David and Joku, who was carted off today.
110:1473 players have more yards than DK Metcalf right now, uh, including Ryan Miller of the Miami dolphins.
110:19So it's been a horrific start to the year for DK Metcalf.
110:22Um, and today was one of those situations where he was going to be banged no matter what, because he gets the
110:29shadow treatment from Christian Gonzalez, who's like a way better corner than he is a receiver.
110:34And they basically just only stick them on the outside and run low percentage routes with the quarterback who only throws low percentage routes.
110:41So, I mean, DK is screwed in fantasy and in real life, again, the whole, like they need him to be something that he's just not.
110:49Didn't he drop three or four as well? Oh yes.
110:52He also, he also dropped a bunch of passes too.
110:55Yeah. That's a great. Yeah. He had just another drop, another drop.
110:58And then, and then he wants to push and shove Christian Gonzalez.
111:02Cause he's pissed off. Like you're dropping. That's the thing.
111:05Like you're not going to get that many clean opportunities in this game and the clean opportunities he did get.
111:11He pretty much dropped them all. So Matt, my last question just goes to the Patriots backfield.
111:16Now that we got Hendo back in, I believe I saw Ramondre fumbled early on in this game too.
111:21So we close with 16 carries for Hendo versus six for Ramondre.
111:25Are there any sweeping conclusions we can take from this?
111:28Uh, Ramondre fumbled on the first drive too, by the way.
111:31So, uh, you start off with your wrong foot there.
111:34If you're a monitor Stevenson, um, yeah, Henderson ended up playing more snaps, got way more carries.
111:39You know, Stevenson was pretty much shelved at one point after the fumble came back later in the game.
111:45I, I think again, with another, with an offensive line injury here, uh, Eli Raritan also got hurt in this game after
111:51he had a splash catch and he's a pretty useful blocker for them.
111:55I just really wonder like if this offense is going to be bad and we're not going to, we're going to be
112:02talking about last year with the Russian game. And we're talking about a split backfield on a, on a team that's really shaky and Henderson.
112:09Yeah. He had the one explosive play and like Henderson, he can do that, but I'm still kind of waiting on him
112:16being more of like a consistent down to down threat.
112:19And I don't know that we saw that in this game necessarily.
112:22They're in Jacksonville next week too, which is like historically just a really awesome run defense team.
112:27If we don't have good answers, if both of them would be hard to trust.
112:32I will say after that at Buffalo Raiders, Jets, bears, dolphins in a row there.
112:36So like, if you want to dream big on Travion, like in a little bit here, I think that you, this was
112:43like the, the first bit of evidence in like what eight, nine months that we've had of Travion Henderson.
112:48So like, I still want to like count this as a win.
112:52Yeah. There was like an eight game stretch last year where the only successful runs this team had when both were out
112:59there were the outside pitches to Travion Henderson. And I'm wondering for kind of getting back to that already.
113:04All right. I know offenses have been struggling across the league, but not Bryce Young, not this one Panthers.
113:10They dominate. And I mean, dominate the Atlanta Falcons 34 to 33.
113:13This is another three touchdown game from Bryce Young.
113:16The first, a fourth and goal from the three yard line.
113:19Dave Canales puts his nuts on the table immediately.
113:22Chuba Hubbard receiving touchdown. Next after that couple of field goals, Bryce gets the ball with 102 left on the clock ahead
113:29of halftime on his own 27 immediate sack second and 16.
113:32He rips it 55 yards to Xavier Lee get yes down the heart of the defense splits both the safeties three plays
113:38later, a third down touchdown pass to Mr. high rocks himself, Darren Waller, his first of two on the day.
113:44Then out of halftime, another third and 12, a perfectly timed throw route from Bryce Young to Jalen Coker for a first down.
113:51Then he gets a single high look, a blitzer directing his face.
113:55Bryce Young lobs it to the left to Ted Aaron McMillan, 29 yards, one on one along the sideline, third and fourth
114:01scramble to set up first and goal. And then yes, I'm first and goal again, threaded 12 yard touchdown to Darren Waller
114:08for a second of the day that puts the Panthers up 27 to three.
114:12Now that's good, but the real MVP and yes, he'll be the defensive player of the week.
114:17He did something that no one's ever done in history since like 1950.
114:21Devin Lloyd, the free agent linebacker for the Panthers pass breakup on the first drive to force an early interception, another interception
114:27on Cooper rush later on a tackle for loss on Drake London that Tommy Reese, instead of a fourth and one to hand off to Bijon.
114:35Instead, he calls an end around to Drake London who gets tackled five yards in the backfield.
114:40So turnover on downs there, a sack from Devin Lloyd, and then a pick six on Jack Strand's first pass of his NFL career.
114:47Uh, just a hell of a day for Devin Lloyd.
114:50And this is likely the end of Cooper rushes career.
114:53He fumbled on the first snap on a scramble interception on the fourth snap, and he was relentlessly getting booed by, I
115:00guess you call them the Falcons faithful to the point that some fan brought a, we want strand sign.
115:06Oh, so homemade to the stands. And uh, you got what you asked for there as well.
115:11Dude, they probably paid real American dollars for that.
115:13Yeah, they, they, they went, they went to FedEx and said, I take, take my money, my hard earned United States, uh, dollars and print that thing out.
115:22That's where the Falcons are. I saw Drake London was like yelling at, was it fans or teammates or something?
115:28I mean, he's got to be one of the most like frustrated players.
115:31Look at that. We want to, that's not bad.
115:34That's the production quality could be a lot worse.
115:37He's been at least, you know, two hours making that thing.
115:40Um, just quickly in the Falcons, like Bijon 4.5 yards per carry 16 carries 72 yards.
115:45I don't think he touched the football with like 12 minutes to go in the game because it was so over, uh,
115:51Drake London, five targets, four receptions, 51 yards, a nice early 17 yard game.
115:56But after that, it was really tough sledding and cow pits, one catch for 15 yards, had another one bounce out of
116:02his hands and the rest of the game, Mike does not matter for the Falcons.
116:07Uh, yeah, go ahead. I got a question for you, man, because I'm kind of with you.
116:12There's been a lot of Bryce Young slander. And as we sit back today and look at the state of the quarterback
116:18position, Drake may, uh, four interceptions, the one touchdown, Bo Nix launching picks left and right, you know, all of this stuff, Jaden Daniels, we'll talk about that.
116:26I mean, are you starting Bryce Young? Uh, is this must start territory at this point with how he's playing?
116:32Um, look at the consolidation for the offense again, like that that's another three touchdowns without McMillan nor Jalen Coker getting in the end zone.
116:40He's playing great football right now. Like I get, he can only face who's on the schedule, but is he getting to
116:46the point where he's on must start territory? So we have talked about this relentlessly, Matt, you've done so on your show, Ray, you have as well.
116:54People did not wrap their heads around Dave Canales giving up the play calling and it going to Brad Edzik.
117:00And there is such a massive difference here of immediately from the first series of the first game, them allowing and building
117:07an offense around Bryce Young's downfield capabilities to the tune that he is top five and intended air yards per attempt right now in the league.
117:15I mean, he's tied with Justin Herbert and Josh Allen in terms of intended air yards per attempt only behind Trevor Lawrence and Lamar Jackson.
117:22And he's completing a bunch of them. And this is an aggressive downfield style, not ball control.
117:27Granted, they have played the bears and they have played the Atlanta Falcons.
117:31But guess what guys next two weeks, you got the Browns and the lions.
117:35So if we're getting in lines on the Bryce Young, not just super flex, but in single quarterback stuff, it's these next
117:42two weeks where you could have again, very similar performances.
117:45I think to this one, Hayden, Josh, what about the backfield here?
117:48I saw Jonathan Brooks with a groin injury. I'm assuming that's the same groin injury that he had in training camp.
117:54It's just going to be the Chuba Hubbard as like a top 15 fantasy running back.
117:59Yep, it is that simple. Chuba Hubbard was in there early on in the I-10 stuff.
118:04He got 12 carries for 53 yards again to get that receiving touchdown.
118:08And then, you know, Jonathan Brooks mixed in here and there, just five carries.
118:12But his last carry was like you were expecting a, let's say, Emmanuel Wilson type fourth quarter for him.
118:18Like, let's give him 10 carries. Let's have some fun.
118:21Let's see what he's got. He tries to turn the corner and then has zero juice, takes himself to the medical tent.
118:27And yeah, Dave Canales says it is the same groin issue that sparked up in training camp.
118:32And so I'm assuming I wouldn't be surprised if he gets puts on like short term IR for that.
118:38And AJ Dillon is going to be the backup backup quarterback or backup running back here.
118:43So yeah, I mean, it's, it's all Chuba Hubbard.
118:45And I will say this, the Panthers offense, like this was not a clean process for this team.
118:51I think the offensive line had eight or nine penalties, including two false starts by Rob Hunt, some holdings, illegal hands to face, all this type of stuff.
118:59They overcame it. So there's still some things to iron out with that.
119:03But man, we'd love to see 10 targets for Teddero McMillan, five for one-on-one.
119:07They did some cool leak patterns, some move out of the pocket, all that type of stuff.
119:12Jalen Coker, by the way, is now this team's punt returner on top of it.
119:17And he goes for 36 yards on the first punt return out there.
119:20I've never seen him do it. I mean, I would know.
119:24I mean, he's just, what can't he do? What can't he do on this team?
119:28Nothing. And he even gets eight for 66, including, you know, an awesome sideline grab.
119:33And then Darren Waller is the sneaky tight end premium play, especially when we get to like the low red zone where
119:39he adds that third dynamic with T-Mac, with Jalen Coker.
119:42And then you get Darren Waller more in the slot and you can like run in breakers.
119:47You can run pylon routes, corner routes with him.
119:50And yeah, he's a go-to player for them in the tight red zone.
119:54That's for sure. Nothing. All right. We got two more quick games.
119:57Ray, your Dallas Cowboys rebound in a big way, 37 to 20 win over the Washington Commanders.
120:02I hate to say it, but I think the only place to start though is with those Commanders because their season might've changed entirely.
120:09Jane Daniels looks to re-injure the same elbow injury as last year.
120:13Looks like a dislocation to my untrained eye. The thing with it, Ray, it wasn't on contact.
120:18He was going from under center and trying to plant with it, put it on the turf.
120:23And it almost goes in the opposite direction and pops out there.
120:27So we saw this offense look like last year, albeit with Cliff Kingsbury and Marcus Mariota leading the operation.
120:32But again, here we are after week two with Commanders 0-2 and without their franchise quarterback.
120:37Yeah, this was definitely the biggest takeaway, right? We could talk about Dak and there's some really, really awesome stats about what Dak did.
120:44Something that hadn't been done in two years. And maybe we'll get to that.
120:48But Jay Daniels, and I'll just say this, different circumstances, different injured parts of the body.
120:53But this feels exactly like the time when the Washington Commanders had a all-star rookie quarterback, rushed him back on the field.
121:00And then the second season he got injured again and was never the same.
121:04This happened on the play before halftime. He stumbled out, out from the snap, went back to put his hand on the ground.
121:11No one fell on him. Just it popped out again.
121:14And all you're thinking is, like, is this going to be a common occurrence?
121:18It looked and felt so bad because he gets on the cart and he's driving off and you can just see disappointment on his face.
121:25It wasn't tears. It felt like he was saying, damn it, here we go again.
121:30And yeah, that's the biggest takeaway. And once that happened, I mean, they were so desperate, y'all.
121:35They ran, I believe in one series, they had two different trick plays where they're throwing the ball to receiver and missing Terry McLaurin down the field.
121:43And they try to do something else on the opposite side of the field.
121:47And you're watching like, what is David Blau doing?
121:50I'll just say this. Dallas's defense is still terrible.
121:52So anybody can run on them. And Jay Daniels was running all over him prior to the injury.
121:58But this is tough. And I'll say, I don't know where they go from here.
122:02But because Dallas defense is so bad, once Marcus Mariota got in, he was doing the same stuff Jay Daniels was doing.
122:09It just, the defense is so bad in Dallas that it didn't really kind of matter who was there.
122:14But moving forward, I thought the running backs played really well.
122:18Stephon Diggs, I think we've all talked about him.
122:20He's their best wide receiver, full stop right now, especially with Chig Okonkwo out.
122:24This is, this is rough for Washington. Did Terry McLaurin have a touchdown called back?
122:29Like his day might look a lot different than it was here.
122:33He didn't, it was, he didn't, he never got it.
122:35Like it was in the end zone, got up, they called it a touchdown, but the ball, once you see the replay, he never had control of it.
122:44It was on the ground. It could have looked better.
122:47And then Antonio, he did miss him wide open on a, on a trick play.
122:51But the primary, it felt like it was Stephon Diggs when they needed to play down the stretch.
122:57You see the nine targets here, Hayden shaking his head.
123:00Go ahead, Hayden. It felt like Diggs was the best guy on the field for him.
123:04I've just keep getting like a Monroe St. Brown vibes, like from the David Blau offense.
123:09Like there was backfield stuff. Once again, uh, you just open underneath and he looks really explosive.
123:14I mean, he was getting Cooper to Jean one-on-one in week one multiple times and just like cooking him.
123:20And he, he, he dropped a couple passes in that week.
123:23One game that could have been like a hundred yards in, in even more.
123:27Uh, and then once again, like you said, nine targets in this one, I did see his one touchdown grab, which was by design as well.
123:35So like he's the easy button in this offense.
123:38I'm not sure if they're going to be able to run the ball that consistently this year because the state of their
123:44offensive line, it's all Connerly's, uh, banged up with a, with a finger injury on top of it.
123:50So like if they're going to have to do like a scammy version with Marcus Mariota and I think Marcus Mariota among
123:56backup quarterbacks is like absolutely one of the best in the league.
124:00And we saw that like the EPA numbers the last couple of years, like he can absolutely run a scammy type of
124:06offense, if not even something better than that. So I think that Steph digs, like no doubt about it.
124:12Top 30 guy, uh, in fantasy right now, I've got some bad news for you.
124:16They, they, they face the Seattle Seahawks in week three and week four, but, but if you're, but again, if we're going
124:23back to like the conversation about how 0% of people should have started Marvin Harrison today, like this, Terry McLaurin is going to be that sacrificial player.
124:31Uh, again, uh, it looks like Antonio Williams was tied with the army Brown for second on the team and routes ahead of Steph on dig.
124:39So I don't know if digs can just like not play a full snap chair at this point in his career, or
124:45if like they don't want him out there in a blocking game and look, yeah, his contract to hold it.
124:51Also, by the way, my, my, my, my boy, Stefan digs, like never been interested in the blocking game, evil, even at his like best, uh, best days.
124:59Like we, I've even like talked with him about that.
125:02So, um, yeah, I mean, William, like maybe we just don't need all these Dami Brown routes.
125:07Cause I would like to see more Antonio Williams.
125:10I'd like to see more Steph digs, but yeah, I'm with Hayden.
125:14Like at this point, he should be the odds on favor to lead this team in targets, catches and yards going forward.
125:20Right. Anything you want to say about the Cowboys?
125:23Oh yeah. I'll just say Dami Brown did have a touchdown that when y'all see it, I have no idea how that was not called a touchdown.
125:31I'll just, even the announcers were like, that should have been, I don't know how they, they ruled that Cowboys.
125:37I think the biggest takeaway CD lamb is, is the guy.
125:40I mean, it was great to see him get back going again.
125:44And let me just read this from you about that Prescott, his 17.9 EPA across his dropbacks in this game, the most
125:50amongst any quarterback who faced the pressure rate North of 40% in a game over the last two seasons.
125:56He was 17 for 18, all four of his touchdowns when he was kept clean and all four of his TDs traveled 10 yards down the field.
126:04It felt like this often said, okay, we don't know what happened in week one, but let's get to doing what we do best.
126:11And the most disappointing part of the offense was how bad Javante Williams looked.
126:15I mean, I'm, I'm looking at him run like they've got to find somebody else with some juice in the backfield.
126:21He looked terrible running the ball today. Jake Ferguson, two touchdowns, go figure that would happen after I slandered him all week,
126:28but George Pickens and CD lamb both had eight plus targets, but it was CD lamb as, as the one.
126:34And there's no doubt about it. It is CD lamb as the primary George Pickens is the secondary in this offense.
126:40Next two weeks for the Cowboys, some big tests, the Ravens and the Texans.
126:44So, uh, look, they, they poured it on the commanders here, but, uh, those would be some interesting conversations.
126:50Obviously they're very straight lined with who gets the fancy points, but maybe just our expectations with that.
126:55Okay. I'll just quickly go through the 49ers and the dolphins.
126:59I had this on the second screen. Um, I mean the 49ers demolished them 35 to, to 13.
127:04Brock Purdy was freaking outstanding in the pocket out of the pocket, short area, quickness, 20 of 22.
127:09He had as many touchdowns as he did in completions for 287 yards was also the team's leading rusher with 30 yards and a rushing score.
127:17Uh, Chris McCaffrey does get 10 carries for 23 yards and two goal line touchdowns on top of it.
127:23I think the big takeaway is George Kittle on almost back-to-back plays gets a 40 yarder on this kind of boot action, second level throw to Kittle.
127:31And then he scampers for 40 and then two ish plays later, uh, is wide open in the end zone for a 16 yard grab for a score.
127:39So he's the team's leading receiver. And then Mike Evans was one yard short of a touchdown on a crossing route himself finishes three targets, three catches 54.
127:47He left with a hip injury. I think at that time, the 49ers were up like 35 to six.
127:53So I am assuming that those two things are linked Hayden and Mike Evans isn't very banged up.
127:58Uh, it was just time to rest him for the rest of the day.
128:03Yeah. They said it was not serious after the game.
128:06I had the same read on that. I mean, but we can't overstate this.
128:10This was a perfect game from Brock Purdy. Like looking at like the advanced numbers, like it does not get better than what they did there.
128:17This dolphins team by far the youngest. And, uh, that's at all levels.
128:21Chop Robinson was out there. Like we know that we have to play players against the dolphins, but we're getting close.
128:28So like, this could be like a historically bad dolphins defense, uh, this year.
128:32Oh yeah. And to, to your point, they are the youngest roster offensively and they're the youngest roster defensively.
128:37Uh, and it shows out there that 49ers players were wide open all over the field, just flat out wide open.
128:44Um, on for the dolphins. That wasn't the case for Malik Willis takes four sacks in this game.
128:49Uh, 197 yards. I would assume a lot of that was in the second half.
128:53Um, and then yeah, Devon HN just tough sledding, uh, 20 carries 74 yards.
128:58They'd have some like downfield targets on his six, but just catches three for, for 19.
129:02Um, and yeah, I don't think there's all the other things.
129:06Josh, can I ask you a tough question that nobody wants to hear and nobody wants, nobody probably wants to answer this is Christian McCaffrey.
129:13Just, I get what he scores us and we take the points, but is there, is he getting to the point where he is declining?
129:20Like it does he, when you're watching him, like when I saw that swing route and he tried to juke a defender
129:27and he got pissed because he got tackled, he couldn't make a move.
129:31Is he, I don't want to say cooked, but are we getting there with Christian McCaffrey?
129:36So we can close on this. Um, the CMC stuff, as we talked about last week, and we talked about during stats
129:42versus film, I buy into, and this game script was out of whack, but that Kalen Black isn't going to lead this team in carries every single week.
129:51Um, but is going to take the largest piece of the pie that we've ever seen attached to CMC.
129:56Maybe that's 70, 30, 65, 35. And that's going to make CMC closer to, I don't know, the running back eight or 12 and expected points.
130:04Now in this game, obviously you play him and you started me and gets two goal line touchdowns, but outside of that,
130:10there's not as much, but then the trade-off with that is hopefully he's more explosive, more spry versus literally being the least,
130:17you know, efficient and explosive runner in the league last season.
130:20So it's a good offense that we want to be a part of.
130:24I would always take the 90% usage on running back one over and over and over again that we got last year.
130:31I think the big question, Ray, and Hey, now we'd love your input on this.
130:35Does, would that make CMC like a silent killer for your team?
130:39If you took him as the fifth overall player and he finishes as like the 14th overall player, or should we just
130:45be like fine with that and we move on?
130:48I mean, I think so. I mean, you're going to look at some crazy box scores from Jameer Gibbs and we'll see
130:54about, you know, obviously like Jamar Chase, JSNs of the world.
130:58Like that's, that's who we sandwiched between. So we'll, we'll see on that.
131:02I do think McCaffrey is going to be just fine because it looks like this 49ers team might just be like the
131:08third or fourth best offense again, you know? And if that's the case, then even in that role, he's going to have
131:15box scores like this where you get 20 fantasy points and whether he was good or not, like it doesn't really matter.
131:21He's not going to have the legendary season though, that he's had previously.
131:25Um, so I guess that's disappointing. Yeah. I think there's a difference in like 20 fancy points per game, which he did
131:32score this week versus 16, 15 per week. Yes.
131:34All right. Yeah. That does it. I know I'll be back tomorrow night after Monday night football with Joel Smith on the waiver wire.
131:41Tune into that episode. Thank you all for the comments, Ray.
131:45You're the man, Matt. You're the man go and watch their channels, go and watch their work.
131:50I know Matt has the panic meter and boy, oh boy, is there going to be a lot of panic after this week of action.
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