0:00Big show for you today is the Yahoo Fantasy Forecast is presented by Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL.
0:06All season long, Toyota is celebrating the passion, traditions, and unforgettable moments that make football America's obsession from fantasy football to every kickoff, rivalry, and Sunday ritual.
0:14And we have a lot to get to today.
0:16First and foremost, our guy Matt Harmon is sitting this one out, so I am handling hosting duties.
0:21And that starts with Hayden Winks and I recapping the Falcons win over the Packers on Thursday night.
0:27Who saw that coming? Great performance from Atlanta in that one.
0:30Lots of big fantasy stat lines to go over.
0:32Then Josh Norris jumps on with me to talk through his biggest Week 3 questions, and we'll be opening up the mailbag and answering your questions as well.
0:40A lot of running back situations up in the air, and we'll help you sort through those.
0:45I mean, some people are saying this is the greatest episode of the Yahoo Fantasy Forecast ever.
0:50Others are saying they miss the soothing sounds of Harmon's voice.
0:53Either way, we are getting you ready for Week 3, so let's get to it.
0:57What's going on, everybody? Welcome to the Yahoo Fantasy Forecast Nightcap.
1:01I'm Justin Boone, stepping into the host chair here for our guy Matt Harmon, who is somehow taking an early bye week.
1:07I don't know what that's all about. Even producer Colin is off tonight, so apparently I didn't get the memo that today
1:13was the day that everybody was going to take off.
1:16But fortunately, we got an amazing crew here at Yahoo.
1:19JB leading the way behind the scenes and joining me to do the recap, like he always is for these Thursday night recaps, the man himself, Hayden Winks.
1:27Hayden, what's going on, dude? Speaking of takeoff, how about Drake London taking off for 194 yards?
1:32B. John Robinson, 194 yards. And I'll throw out a little Matthew Golden 100 yards while we're at it.
1:37But yeah, pretty fascinating game here. Glad we can watch the Falcons and not, you know, just smack our head into the
1:43wall because I believe they're in prime time for a couple weeks in a row from here.
1:48It's like getting this performance was very timely. They are.
1:51And it was kind of funny because for most of this game, I was getting ready to do this show and I
1:57was going to be like, well, it wasn't the Lions-Bills game from last week.
2:01And this is unfortunate. We had to kind of get through this one.
2:05And yet in the end, like most of the fantasy assets came through in this game.
2:10There were a couple that didn't and we'll get to those.
2:13But overall, some really big fantasy performances. I think we have to start with the Falcon side, though.
2:18We have to start with the more positive stuff.
2:21And what a difference. Like to watch this team struggle through the first two weeks and all due respect.
2:26I mean, I don't know how much respect that they're owed after the performances that they had.
2:31But Cooper Rush and Jack Strand, they tried. The fans were looking for Stranding it out there.
2:36He was not the answer. Michael Panix Jr. is the answer.
2:39It looks like he is a competent quarterback. He can keep the trains on track here.
2:43And really, he made this offense look completely different than it has looked the first two weeks.
2:48Well, with Michael Panix, he was never going to be like running around too much, which I think his return from the
2:55ACL construction makes a little bit more sense to me because he's always just going to throw the ball to Drake London.
3:01And that's the best part about Drake or about Michael Panix.
3:04There is 12 games between Panix and Drake London heading into this one.
3:08He had a 34% target share in those games.
3:10And then tonight, he has a 40% target share.
3:13Well, guess what? Good things happen when they throw the ball to Drake London.
3:17There was not enough throwing the ball to Drake London in the first two weeks.
3:21So the fact that we get another 40% target share for Drake London, he was the wide receiver three on average in
3:27those 12 games with Michael Panix coming into this one.
3:30So I would say Drake London, I'm not sure what the rest of the season rankings were looking like for Drake London heading into this one.
3:38I mean, we could probably move him up 20 spots in overall rankings, probably from like the third round back into the early parts of the second round.
3:46So I think of all the winners in this game, obviously Bijan goes crazy.
3:50To me, the big winner is Drake London, where he's firmly back into the every week wide receiver one.
3:55Doesn't matter the matchup because Michael Panix just wants to throw the ball to him.
3:59And it took a little while in this game to get that connection going.
4:03Like in the first quarter, it was pretty rough.
4:06They were trying to ease Panix back in. They were leaning on the running game.
4:10They were throwing a lot of short passes, a lot of screen stuff.
4:14I was a little bit worried in the first quarter.
4:17I'm not going to lie. And then eventually you could tell Panix got a little more comfortable out there and they started pushing the ball downfield.
4:24And it really was just all Drake London all the time.
4:27I'm glad you brought up the stat because yeah, last year before Panix got hurt, London was the wide receiver three overall
4:34behind, I think just JSN and Puka. Like he showed us over a pretty long stretch last season that he has almost elite potential for fantasy.
4:41And I don't know if I'm going to move him up that high in the rest of season rankings, but definitely belongs in the top 10, top 12.
4:49Again, he has that kind of upside and it's great to see.
4:52We know Bajon Robinson is fantastic. We don't want to spend too much time on him, but like this guy, just otherworldly.
4:59There's like a few players, like just in my lifetime watching football, there's a few players where you see them on the
5:05field and they just kind of seem like they're moving different than everybody else.
5:09He's kind of that guy right now. Like he is just completely moving different when he cuts.
5:14It's just so smooth and fluid and making plays, but also has some physicality, can meet those defenders, can push the pile
5:20a little bit, just a great player. Everybody, if you took them second overall and you felt bad about not getting Jameer
5:26Gibbs, which on the teams where I ended up with Robinson, yeah, I felt bad I didn't get Jameer Gibbs.
5:32But man, this is the kind of upside that he has.
5:35This is the ceiling for him. Just a huge, huge game from Bajon Robinson and the other B.
5:40Robinson, Brian Robinson. Yeah, why not? Pretty good stat line from him too.
5:44Yes, definitely. So yeah, if you drafted B. Robinson over B.
5:47Robinson on accident, you're all right tonight. But with Bajon, the standout trait, it's his deceleration, which sounds kind of funky, but
5:54his ability to stop and then take off from that point, that is what makes him so special.
5:59Like there's other players like Jameer Gibbs, for example, could get to the corner a little bit better than Bajon Robinson.
6:05But in terms of like you have to hit the brakes and then change direction, he's the best in the NFL at that.
6:11And that is the standout trait for him. They didn't even have to get him going that crazy in the receiving game
6:18in this one because every single time he touched the ball, he was making a guy miss initially.
6:23He has just like just enough power to kind of break a couple arm tackles too.
6:27But it is really that deceleration. And I would say this game, watching the Falcons running backs and then the Packers running
6:34backs, it was one of the most staggering differences in pure running back talent.
6:38If you were just a scout watching these two, it was night and day.
6:42Marshawn Lloyd, when he stops and then when he has to change directions, that takes a while for him.
6:47And he does it with zero consistency. And then Caleb Johnson just doesn't have the athleticism.
6:52Just pure watching the game, that was as staggering of talent at running back that I could possibly remember.
6:57Shall we shift over to the Packers a little bit?
7:00I mean, it's an easy transition to talk about that backfield in Green Bay.
7:04I had some hope. I think you did too, that maybe this could be a game where Caleb Johnson gets something going.
7:10Like last week, it was eight for 32. Seemed like he brought a little something in that game.
7:15The coaches mentioned that he gave them a little bit of a spark.
7:19I thought this would be the kind of contest.
7:22And this is the part that I got wrong tonight.
7:24A lot of the projections and rankings turned out okay because there were so many points and because there were so many yards put up and touchdowns.
7:32The one thing that I got wrong was how this game was going to play out.
7:37I thought the Packers were going to control things.
7:39I thought there'd be an opportunity for them to get this running game going.
7:43And that offensive line is a huge problem overall.
7:46The run game has nothing, like you're saying, right?
7:48Like the backs aren't elevating things. The offensive line is struggling out there.
7:52I don't know. Like, I just think none of these backs are going to step up.
7:57I think that's the problem now. I'm ready to drop Marshawn Lloyd.
8:00I don't know that Caleb Johnson is going to get enough work to be the answer there.
8:05And I do think he has the most juice in the backfield.
8:08And yet, I just don't think he's going to get enough volume.
8:12Maybe he doesn't know the playbook well enough. I'm not sure what it is, Hayden.
8:16But there's no fantasy value coming from this backfield until maybe Josh Jacobs comes back.
8:20And we don't know when and if that's going to happen.
8:24You could drop all the Packers running backs. And then for Josh Jacobs, we got the news about, you know, the ceiling of the video.
8:31And that makes it more likely that that video could come out.
8:34It kind of comes down to the local police department if they want to release that.
8:39But it's a gray area, so we don't know when Josh Jacobs is going to be returning.
8:44I would say this about Jacobs. He has no shot behind this offensive line.
8:48Like this Packers offensive line going into the season was already a disaster.
8:51Then they lose Zach Bacabuele, their best tackle. And the interior, they're still like trying out guys and see who's going to be in the starting lineup.
8:59Aaron Banks wasn't available. They ran the ball eight times and it went for 17 yards.
9:04Jordan Love dropped back 54 times. He only got sacked once.
9:07But because it was such a predictable offense, Jordan Love is retreating over and over again.
9:11And like the fact that he only took one sack in this night is like goes to show like that.
9:17He's just like trying out there. But this is also against the Falcons backups at edge rusher, defensive tackle, cornerback one.
9:23There is backups everywhere. I think that the play that really just stood out to me is that fourth and one attempt.
9:29They're trying to stay in this game. They're down in the red zone and they can't even have the confidence to run the ball up the middle.
9:37They obviously do play action. Jordan Love goes out to the right side, pretty much throws the ball away.
9:42This is the Falcons backup running or backup edge rushers backup everywhere.
9:46And you can't run the ball for one yard when you need it.
9:50Like that to me is just a huge, huge negative signal.
9:53Like this team is nowhere near the playoff picture in this division.
9:56This is going to be an unserious run game, even when Josh Jacobs comes back.
10:00So if you can trade Josh Jacobs away, I would think about doing that.
10:04The good news is when they drop drop back, it's going to two guys only.
10:09So I think that's like the only saving grace here.
10:12But the Packers as a serious team in 2026, it is way over solely because the offensive line.
10:17Yeah. And you mentioned it. The receivers are the saving grace for fantasy five for 100 and a touchdown for golden seven
10:23for 96 and a touchdown for Watson. Jaden Reed being out of the picture here, possibly for the rest of the season.
10:29Of course, that helps consolidate things. But both these guys are showing have shown before this game that they had a chance
10:36to be really good for fantasy this year. This is kind of golden's like coming out party, if you will.
10:41And he's somebody that I had ranked in the wide receiver to range this week.
10:46Watson, I had up as a low end wide receiver one.
10:49And we can kind of make the case that that's where those guys belong.
10:53I think rest of season. Yeah. Boom. Where would you rank Matthew golden rest of season?
10:57Because I think you can make the argument that he's like wide receiver 16 because the usage is going to be easily
11:04in the top 10 through the first three weeks.
11:06It might even be higher than that after I run my model there.
11:10And he's obviously he's making some struggles like he has a couple drops there.
11:14Like there's a couple of miscommunications where Jordan love wants to throw in the back shoulder and he's running upfield.
11:20He's an inexperienced player. But when you're that fast and he's making those plays in the air like that ball over his
11:26shoulder where he stacked the corner and then also had to make an adjustment down the field.
11:31That was a really special moment for Matthew golden.
11:33I also thought the touchdown where that was like the ball was thrown maybe a yard or two behind him.
11:39And he's still able to make that grab in tight areas.
11:42Like to me, those are standout plays. It's not the perfect game for Matthew golden.
11:46But like there is like some standout traits and the volume is going to be there.
11:51So like, would you be like, would it be that crazy to call him with the wide receiver 16 wide receiver 20 rest of the year?
11:58There's other factors too, right? Like you think about some of the other guys in that range, like a Malik neighbors, you
12:05know, not having his quarterback now and dealing with an injury and the concerns.
12:09I mean, you know, the possibility that if the season goes sells for the giants and if neighbors is dealing with that
12:15shoulder injury, still do they shut him down at some point?
12:18That kind of thing. Mike Evans dealing with injury DJ more like there's a bunch of guys in that range that might
12:24not be able to hold their spot and might come down a little bit.
12:28And yeah, I think you can make a case that he's sort of mid to low end wide receiver to the volume through three weeks is fantastic.
12:36And then you look at the matchups coming up, right?
12:39We're talking about how bad the run game is.
12:42And I don't love the matchup for the run game going against the bucks next week, but I do love the matchup for the passing attack.
12:49And after that, they get the banged up bears secondary.
12:52Like there's going to be big games for these Packers receivers.
12:55It's going to continue. And that's going to be one great thing.
12:58I mean, Tucker craft, not really seeing it from him yet.
13:02I mean, he got like one kind of fluky catch that ended up in his hands by chance.
13:07You know, he got some passes thrown his way, but doesn't really look the same necessarily in my mind coming off the
13:13injury and all the volume is going to the receivers at this point.
13:17So he's somebody that I think we'll have to think about moving down a little bit in terms of rest of season
13:23rankings, maybe more of a mid to low end tight end one, as opposed to a guy that had a chance to
13:29be in the top five, perhaps as it gets healthier, as the season goes along, if this team has to lean on
13:35the passing attack this much, but having golden out there as someone that's getting double digit targets, it's going to make it
13:42really hard for craft to pay off for fantasy.
13:44The Tucker craft was going to be difficult call this year because he was so awesome after the catch.
13:50But it was like to the point where it was definitely going to regress even before the injury.
13:55Then you tack on the injury and now you're like kind of regressing this like multiple ways.
14:00And then this season, Tucker craft like he had two miserable drops in this one.
14:04It just does not look like himself. We have not seen like the huge yards after the catch one.
14:09There's a couple of plays in like week one where he was wide open, but we have not seen like the signature Tucker craft.
14:16What's been so crazy to me is part of the reason why they've been so bad running the ball is Tucker craft
14:23has gone from like one of the best run blockers to this year.
14:26It just like does not know where he's even going.
14:29It's like, it's weird. What's happening with Tucker. I do not recognize this player.
14:33I do think what you just said, though, does make a lot of sense in the second half of this year.
14:39Once he does ramp all the way back up and feels like himself, he's playing all the snaps right now.
14:45It's just like feeling like himself. There could be enough pass volume where he's still going to go crazy.
14:50But at the same time, I know we're both doing rankings.
14:53Tight end rankings right now is difficult. Like there is like 16 guys I want to squeeze into the top 12.
14:59Like the difference between like tight end five and tight end 18 right now is pretty narrow.
15:04And I think that if you did have somebody else that you felt more comfortable with over Tucker craft right now, like
15:11I would understand having him be on your bench.
15:13I think it's just like a really deep position right now.
15:16I mean, I almost cried when I saw where I ended up putting Colston Loveland in my rankings this week.
15:22But it's like, how can you justify having him in the top 12 right now?
15:26Like it's that the matchup's bad. He's been bad.
15:29Anyway, that's a conversation for another day. What about the tight end on the other side?
15:33I mean, we just talked about Tucker craft. I'm not surprised that all that Kyle Pitts isn't producing.
15:39I think Kyle Pitts is totally droppable. And you brought up the stats there for Drake London last season when Pennix was out there.
15:45Kyle Pitts, it was a tale of two seasons.
15:48When Drake London was on the field, he was not really usable for fantasy.
15:52And then when Drake London got hurt, all of a sudden Kyle Pitts became like the number one fantasy tight end for a little bit.
15:59And that's the thing that people remember coming off last year.
16:02But now Drake London is clearly healthy. Pennix is back.
16:05And Kyle Pitts is somebody that I'm just not that excited about in fantasy.
16:09Yeah, I had the numbers 14 games with Drake London since 2025.
16:13He's a tight end 17 in usage. And then the other games, he was like the tight end one.
16:18So he's he's almost like the insurance to Drake London.
16:21So it's almost like if you have Drake London, like you can pick up Kyle Pitts and have him on your bench.
16:27But otherwise, I didn't even think about Kyle Pitts this week.
16:30I think he's my tight end 20 in rankings.
16:33It's just the reality when Pennix is just going to be staring down Drake London the whole time.
16:38That's just where the ball is going to go.
16:41And they just they're OK living this style. The next leading target getter in Atlanta was Jahan Dotson with three targets.
16:47It goes from 10 to three. And then everyone else has two, three, 10 to three.
16:51That is that staggering stuff. And it's actually not that staggering because this is what happened for like two months in a row with Michael Pennix previously.
16:59I'm trying to pull it up now, I believe.
17:01Correct me if I'm wrong or maybe you don't know.
17:04I think you and I are playing each other and not the expert league that we have for Yahoo, but we have another.
17:11I think you and I are in. I'm pretty sure you and I.
17:15Yes, I'm playing against August Turtlenecks in that. And we both had guys going in this game, right?
17:20You if I can pull it up here, you had Drake London.
17:23Congratulations. I had Watson and Tucker Kraft. So not a great outing for Kraft.
17:27But yeah, kind of a draw. We're both with huge projections.
17:30129 for you, 125 for me. So that's going to be a pretty good matchup to watch.
17:35And I need that win, man. I've started kind of rough in that league, even though my team is fantastic.
17:41I'm so happy with my team. But bad luck so far for me in that one.
17:45And anything else from this game that you want to talk about?
17:49Any other notes that you had that you wanted to bring up here?
17:53Yeah, I got one last thing. I just Christian Watson.
17:55That's a 796 for one. You know, he's going to go down as one of the best picks in fantasy.
18:01Like that kind of area around six, seven, eight.
18:04I know like we're all in different style leagues there.
18:07But that range of wide receivers like he was going next to like Marvin Harrison, like players are like being straight up dropped.
18:13And he's not only just been a slight win there.
18:16I think the rest of season rankings like he would have a case to be a top 10 wide receiver.
18:22He's always been a model breaker in terms of like his usage versus how many points he scores.
18:27Well, now he's getting like top 12 usage on top of that.
18:30So he's an excellent football player. Everyone else is worried about the injuries there.
18:34If Christian Watson stays healthy after what he did last year in the same calendar year after tearing his ACL and what
18:41he did in 2025 and what he's done in three weeks and like what he looks like on tape to me, like
18:47this to me is like a league altering selection, especially the wide or the running backs early on.
18:52Those guys are crushing it right now. And then you needed to find wide receiver production elsewhere.
18:57Christian Watson is absolutely on that list. I just want to give a big shout out to him because this felt like
19:03a quiet 96 yards in a touchdown game from him.
19:06And that's just kind of been the MO for like the last couple of months.
19:10Yeah. Last year he showed it over a very long stretch there, wide receiver 16 and fantasy points per game.
19:16And now we're seeing him take that to even another level.
19:19It's fantastic. And it hurts Hayden because we talked about on the running back ranking show this week, you and I, that I drafted very well.
19:27I thought at the top of my draft in our expert league, and I just didn't come away with an RB two and it is killing me.
19:34Now, if I had made that Chuba Hubbard pick that you ended up getting, my team would be unstoppable in that league.
19:41So sad. Yeah. Yeah. I might have to. Yeah.
19:43Well, Christian Watson for Chuba Hubbard. I might have to move one of my great wide receivers.
19:48We start three and I have Watson, Olave and Drake London, who now is coming on here.
19:53So that receiving core is great. And yet I was starting Marshawn Lloyd the first two weeks in my RB two spot.
19:59I was wise enough to put them on my bench this week though, but regardless, great, great night for Watson.
20:05I think it's going to be a great season for Watson.
20:08Not too much positive to say for the Packers in terms of their rushing attack.
20:12We thought there might be value there. I was wrong about that.
20:16And the Falcons now seem like they have come alive here.
20:19Hayden. Very interesting. Even though there's only a couple of guys we're going to consider for fantasy there, it's going to be
20:25very exciting to watch the Falcons play here over the next couple weeks.
20:29That's it for you. That's all you got. No other notes.
20:32That's it. All right. Then that will do it for us here after a big win for the Falcons.
20:37Hope everybody got off to a hot start in their fantasy matchups like Hayden and I did in that office league.
20:43If you didn't, don't worry. You have Sunday. You have Monday.
20:47There's lots of time to make a comeback here.
20:49Big thanks to Hayden for riding along with me on this one.
20:53It's fun doing these night recap shows. I hope I get a chance to do these again, but that is all for
20:59us tonight and we will see you next time.
21:01Okay. That does it for the Thursday night talk.
21:04Now let's jump into my conversation with Josh Norris and the rest of the week three preview.
21:09Let's get into it. What is up everybody? Welcome to the Yahoo fantasy forecast, which is presented by Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL.
21:16All season long. Toyota is celebrating the passion traditions and unforgettable moments that make football America's obsession from fantasy football to every kickoff rivalry and Sunday ritual.
21:24And if one of your weekly rituals involves listening to Matt Harmon on our preview shows, I do have some bad news for you.
21:31No Harmon today. I am in the captain's seat for this one, but don't worry.
21:35It is still a hell of a day to talk ball and joining me to do just that Mr.
21:41Josh Norris, who I am seeing a lot of this week.
21:44This is the second of three shows that we're doing over just a span of a few days here, Josh.
21:49Hopefully by the end of the week, we are not sick of each other, but that is not possible, right?
21:55How you doing, man? Boon, I want to check in on you.
21:59Actually, I want to take a moment here because, you know, I looked yesterday at around 1230 PM Eastern and I saw
22:05you had a bit of a meltdown in our expert league.
22:08And I'll talk through this with the audience here.
22:111230 PM. Boone drops Chris Bell for Nick Singleton.
22:13241 PM. I love it. Boone drops Alvin Kamara for Daman Claiborne.
22:16440 PM. Boone drops Nick Singleton for Alvin Kamara.
22:19Boone, what is going on in your life? Are you just having a crisis being 0-2 in this league?
22:24Josh, well, a couple of things. There are a few things here.
22:28I'm going to even add one more insane thing that I did over the last 24 hours in fantasy, which normally I never do.
22:35And that is, I accepted a trade in dynasty where I thought I was the other team and it was an analyst
22:41league and I thought I was getting a great deal.
22:44And I just saw it while I was working.
22:46I clicked accept. And then I noticed, wait a minute.
22:49I have that guy on that team. Fortunately, when you're in an analyst league, everybody's pretty cool.
22:54I immediately messaged the owner. He was like, yeah, yeah, that's fine.
22:58We'll trade it back. So we're all good there.
23:00I didn't make a complete club on that one.
23:03So this one is, you know how desperate I am at running back in this league.
23:07We talked about it on the running back ranking show yesterday, right?
23:11I absolutely screwed up the middle rounds early in the draft.
23:14Very happy. I got Jonathan Taylor early. My receiving core is incredible.
23:17Incredible. Christian Watson, Chris Olave. I think Drake London's going to get back on track here.
23:22Those picks are all great. My running back two spot.
23:25I bought into the Marshawn Lloyd thing. That is not really working out so far.
23:29I think we're gonna have a question in the mailbag later about Marshawn Lloyd and that Packers backfield.
23:34So we will talk about that a little bit later in the show, but I am trying to find anything I can at running back.
23:41And that means I have to go crazy on the waiver wire because we don't have a FOB budget.
23:47So I can't just be aggressive and outbid everyone.
23:49I got to be really fast on the waiver wire against all the other analysts.
23:54And I got to get these guys. And in my mind, what happened?
23:57Everything changed. I dropped Kamara at a point when it was like, it's Alvin Kamara.
24:02He's not going to be good. I know he's not going to be good.
24:06I just know that he got a bunch of touches last week.
24:09So maybe I could use him potentially in a tough spot.
24:12And then like an hour later, we find out that Travis Achan is actually limited in practice.
24:17And now it's like, well, maybe Kamara will get even more work this week.
24:21Who knows? So it's awful, Josh. It's an awful situation for my running back two spot.
24:26That is why all of this occurred. And I'm glad you brought it up because it's quite funny.
24:31Yeah. I mean, it's always a good thing when you have to spend 2000 words explaining yourself on three transactions.
24:36Look, and you said you're desperate running back. So you have to try things out.
24:41Well, you only had Nick Singleton on your roster for four hours.
24:44So did you get a taste? And you're like, no, I'm good.
24:48And I do apologize, Boone. I called you 0-2 in this league.
24:51You are 0-1-1 infamously in this league because of that.
24:54And that is all your fault. That one tie.
24:56By the way, in this league, Boone, awful outcome.
24:59I have Saquon Barkley, Ken Walker III, and Brees Hall.
25:02So I don't feel your running back pain at all.
25:05Yes. How are your other positions doing? Are you all right at receivers?
25:08Are you all right? Tight end. You're doing okay.
25:11I'm good, man. I think I heard you at one point this week talk about your quarterback situation.
25:16I think you're a Drake May guy. But again, someone else that we're going to talk about a little bit later on this show.
25:23But Josh, this time of year, I do think is so important because it takes a few weeks and we're seeing there.
25:29I'm trying to figure out how this picture is going to look this season, how some of these backfields are going to unfold.
25:36And after one week, the picture is pretty blurry at this point, right?
25:40After one week, you only get kind of shapes and images potentially, but you don't really have a clear picture of how it's going to work out.
25:47After two weeks, it starts to come a little more in focus.
25:51We're figuring it out a little more. I always feel like after three, four weeks, that's when the picture becomes much more clear.
25:57That's when a lot of metrics become a lot more predictive.
26:00That's when I feel a lot better about my rankings the rest of the way.
26:05So we're still in like the early phases. We have two weeks.
26:08Week one, there could be outliers. Two weeks, still a very small sample size.
26:12But once we get through this, once we get to like October and beyond, then we kind of have a good idea
26:18of how the rest of the season is going to play out.
26:22And he could kind of just react to injuries and things that pop up along the way.
26:27But again, we still have to figure a lot of this stuff out.
26:30And that's why you are here today, Josh. That's why we're going to talk about some of these key situations.
26:36We're going to try to provide some clarity for fantasy managers.
26:39And on today's show, we're going to start it up as usual with Josh's six pack of fantasy questions surrounding the week three slate.
26:46Then I'm going to take over for Harmon and I'm going to highlight the three games that no one cares about.
26:52I'm not exactly looking forward to that, but we're going to have some fun with it.
26:57And then we are going to actually hit the mailbag and answer your questions here.
27:01And there were a lot of great questions that came in.
27:04We're going to be focusing on running backs for that segment.
27:07So we're going to answer a bunch of those questions in the Toyota fantasy hotline.
27:12So let's get to it here, Josh. Welcome to Josh's six pack of questions.
27:16Oh, how I missed it. I missed that so much.
27:18We had that all last year. It was always funny to me every single time that it continues to be.
27:24But Josh, the floor is yours, man. What is our first big question headed into week three?
27:29Well, it kind of goes into your intro and these first two questions are linked here a little bit.
27:34So the first one is which of these disappointing running backs kickstarts their season in week three.
27:39Okay. Here's the list. Saquon Barkley, Quinshon Judkins, who is the running back 33 so far in points per game against the Carolina Panthers.
27:46Devon Achan running back 24 against the Kansas City Chiefs.
27:49Jalen Warren running back 29 against the Cincinnati Bengals.
27:52And Jadarian Price running back 39. So Boone, since I'm your guest, I will allow you to pick the first name.
27:58Who do you think is going to turn around their season in week three for everyone that drafted them?
28:03I think when you crafted this question, you probably figured who I was going to pick here.
28:08And that is Quinchan Judkins. Yeah. We talked about him on the running back ranking show.
28:12If people didn't listen to that one, go to Josh and Hayden's channel.
28:16Go check that out. We did that episode yesterday.
28:19Tons of good tidbits in that one from everybody.
28:21We knew going into the season that the first two matchups were going to be very tough for Judkins.
28:27We also knew that he plays for the Cleveland Browns and you know, you got to be worried about this offense in general.
28:33But I was interested. I said before the season, I thought there was some potential that this Browns offense could maybe be a little bit better.
28:41And we're seeing at least some early signs of hope, Josh, that these young receivers are coming in, giving them a little more in the passing game.
28:48And yeah, they had to get through these two really tough matchups.
28:52The Jags run defense, the Bucks run defenses, you know, historically good, very tough to go against.
28:57But now we're going to get an opportunity this week against the Panthers to see what he can do.
29:02The Panthers given up the most fantasy points to running back.
29:05So he's the guy that I am going with here.
29:08He's a guy that I'm actually willing to go out.
29:11And if I can get him very cheap, I'm going to go out and buy low on him because I think there's
29:17a lot more to be unearthed with him this season.
29:20Fantasy was. Yeah, I think he's the surprise smash of week three.
29:24And it's a surprise because, you know, he had 12 carries for 21 yards last week against the Bucks, 1.8 yards per carry.
29:30That was in a win. And we don't think the Browns are going to win many games.
29:35And we know that we want to play running backs in wins.
29:38He also has been held below 50 yards in rushing in eight of his past 12 games.
29:43He has the lowest success rate in the NFL by a running back this season.
29:48So, Boone, I guess I'm asking us together, why are we in on Quinn John Jenkins?
29:52You laid out your points. They're totally valid. And for me, it's as simple as the matchup.
29:57Like Carolina's rush defense is not the Bucks or the Jaguars.
30:00Obviously, the Bucks have beat Ava. The Jaguars are big, long and strong all across our defensive front.
30:05And in fact, they're actually allowing the highest rush yards per attempt at 6.3.
30:09That's facing DeAndre Swift, Kamenungai and Bajon Robinson so far.
30:12So, yes, we got this news that Quinn John Jenkins is limited in practice today.
30:16It's just a personal issue. It doesn't seem like it's an injury.
30:20So, yeah, Boone, we should look back on this.
30:22My one fear is if it doesn't hit for Quinn John this week, when is it going to hit?
30:28Because this is the situation where there are two and a half point underdogs.
30:32And if Deshaun plays turnover free football, it should be the environment for Quinn John to do very well.
30:37And if he doesn't, then we have some real concerns to talk about.
30:41Yeah, if he doesn't in this game, then he just becomes a touchdown or bust RB3 the rest of the way.
30:47And you really don't feel good about having him in your lineup.
30:50So that would be very unfortunate. I will also mention like last year, we saw the talent last year.
30:56But last year, prior to the first injury, not the second gruesome injury, the first injury when he hurt his shoulder, his
31:02numbers before that, he was incredibly efficient. He was producing like a high end RB2.
31:06So there's a chance that he's shown, at least for a short stretch, he has that potential.
31:11He belongs in the NFL. He belongs as a starter.
31:14He can be a very good player. But yeah, this is the week where we really need to see it happen.
31:20So that was my first pick from your group here.
31:23Who are you picking second? Oh, I got to talk about Saquon.
31:26And maybe this is coping or, you know, defending my bags here.
31:30But look, I need this game against the Chicago Bears defense on Monday night on Saquon Barkley's resume.
31:35I have to have it. And Boone, we know that he left in the first play of this past week against the Titans with a stinger.
31:42He is practicing today. And Jeff McLean has reported that Saquon Barkley is intending to play a Monday night football, which is
31:49fantastic because the Bears are allowing two yards before contact per attempt right now to opposing running backs.
31:54The second worst mark in the NFL, if this offensive line left guard and center can work as a unit together and
32:00they give Saquon Barkley two yards before contact, he is going to have a monster day.
32:05I do not think the talent of Saquon has diminished.
32:07We saw it in the opener when he was given lanes, juking out safeties, filling at the first and second level and all that type of stuff.
32:15It's just he needs that sliver of space a bit more often.
32:19Like last week would not have been a blow up spot for him, Boone, but at least he would have gotten the
32:25goal line touchdown that Tank Bigsby did. In fact, I would say that Saquon playing in that game was worse than him
32:31not playing for us as fancy wise, because I would have just taken the zero and plug someone else in that starting lineup, you know.
32:38But again, I believe Saquon is going to have still a strong season in that offensive lines can get better and gel
32:45together and the Eagles aren't going to stop running the football.
32:48And it starts here in week three against the Chicago Bears.
32:51And I don't think that we should take a lot away from that Bears game last week with the rain and the
32:57quarterback injuries and all that sort of stuff that happened.
33:00But we just saw Aaron Jones hit them up for over 100 yards, right?
33:04You're telling me Saquon Barkley can't do something similar.
33:07And then we also have, we were talking about it before the show, Josh, this weird rug pull situation where Saquon got
33:13banged up last week and we kind of expected it seemed like there was a good chance he was still going to play in this game.
33:20But I was telling people just in case if Tank Bigsby's out there in your league, go pick him up, make sure he's rostered.
33:27And then we get to practice here and it's actually Tank Bigsby who's missing practice and it's Saquon who's out there and
33:33projected to be fine and play in the game.
33:36There's been a couple of situations like that this week, the Broncos backfield, which is another one that we have a question
33:42on a bit later that we'll talk about. But getting mixed injury information coming out of Sunday and then we get to
33:49the early part of the week, which I think we should actually consider moving the waiver.
33:53I know some leagues do this to Wednesday night instead of Tuesday night because you have at least a little bit of injury information.
34:00Wouldn't really help with the Eagles one though, because this is their first practice of the week.
34:05Still, it would be nice to have that first day of injury information.
34:09I'm with you. I think there's a lot more for Barkley here.
34:12I like what we've seen from the Eagles passing attack.
34:15I think that bodes well for this offense as the year goes along.
34:19So yes, I do believe this is coping for you for sure, because I feel like every time I've talked to you,
34:25you've mentioned Saquon Barkley at some point. I've tried to make the case for him, but I think you are right.
34:31I think we're going to see something better moving forward from Barkley as long as he can stay healthy and sounds like he is here.
34:38Is there anyone else you want to talk about from this list?
34:41Nope, not at all. I'll just say if people move waivers to Thursdays, that would also save you from yourself for making
34:48three pointless free agent moves in your leagues more often.
34:51So I'm all for that, saving you from yourself, like we talked about at the top of the show.
34:56Next, let's do this version with wide receiver spoon.
34:59All right. So Emeka Egbuka through two weeks is wide receiver 34.
35:02He faced the Vikings this week. George Pickens, wide receiver 52 against the Baltimore Ravens.
35:06Jamison Williams, wide receiver 58, face the Jets. Malik Neighbors, wide receiver 60.
35:10And they hit the Tennessee Titans. And then Terry McLaurin, wide receiver 76 versus the Seattle Seahawks.
35:15So five names there. I talked up a bunch of them this summer.
35:19And Boone, none of them have panned out how we wanted to so far.
35:23I mean, George Pickens is the obvious choice. I'll take the low hanging here.
35:27And I know that the matchup is tough. It's a tough one.
35:30The expectations last year got thrown out of whack because when CeeDee Lamb was sidelined, he was one thing.
35:35And when CeeDee Lamb came back, he was another.
35:38And it wasn't completely two different worlds. It was just he was producing like the number one overall fantasy receiver without CeeDee Lamb.
35:45And then he was more of a low end wide receiver, one high end wide receiver, two when Lamb came back.
35:51I believe it was from week seven on. So he's still, in my mind, in that range.
35:55He belongs in that range. This is going to be a high scoring game.
35:59One of the highest projected point totals on the week, if not the highest.
36:03So he's going to be fine. There's some issues with the offensive line and Tyler Smith being out.
36:09And I think it'll help eventually when he comes back.
36:11But still, this is just a slow start for Pickens.
36:14I'm willing to write it off as that. I think he's going to get back to it.
36:19If it doesn't happen this week, it's going to happen very soon.
36:23But I think there's a good shot that we'll see him bounce back in this game.
36:27How about you? So for Pickens, he is six targets, three catches, 28 yards, and then most recently eight targets, six receptions and 40 yards.
36:34The thing about him is he is the player that is regressing back to the average.
36:39Like last year, he scored way above expectation. He was running incredibly hot based on the targets that he was getting.
36:45This year, he is doing the exact opposite. He is running cold.
36:48And some of that goes back to week one, you know, where he had a handful of drops and then also like some penalties on top of it.
36:56So I guess my concern is we're now in a pretty long sample size of him and CeeDee Lamb being together.
37:02Right? I mean, look at this. His producers are on top of it.
37:06Joel Smith is on top of it. Like, I think there was a case to be made heading into the season, especially
37:12how they were drafted, that the Cowboys had quote unquote two wide receiver ones.
37:16I'm starting to wonder, Boone, if maybe, maybe George Pickens should have been drafted closer where Tee Higgins was selected.
37:22And you have like a true wide receiver one, wide receiver two versus again, you know, George Pickens being on that two, three turn.
37:29I agree with that. Like, I think Tee Higgins is sort of a mid range wide receiver two in my mind.
37:35And I agree. It does seem like Pickens was a little too high.
37:39Again, that speaks to what I was saying about.
37:41I think people last year got a little confused with how well he produced when CeeDee Lamb was out and how that
37:47kind of inflated his totals for the year. Where when CeeDee Lamb was back, he was just more of that, you know,
37:54low end kind of fringe, low end wide receiver one, high end wide receiver two.
37:58And Tee Higgins is not far off that. So I do agree with that aspect of it.
38:03But the Cowboys, this is a fast paced offense.
38:05This is an offense that's passing more than most teams.
38:08The opportunities are going to be there. The guy's extremely talented.
38:11I just I'm not that worried about Pickens compared to like some of the other names on this list.
38:17I have like genuine concern about. OK, I'll talk to the league neighbors then.
38:21I mean, this is a game. We know Jameis Winston is coming in.
38:25But despite that, the Giants are still three point favorites here.
38:28OK, like what must that feel like if you're a Titans fan that you get a backup quarterback in week three and
38:34you are three point underdogs against them? Anyways, if Jameis Winston has anything left to give, not just in football, but especially
38:40in fantasy football, he needs to show it this week.
38:43Right. Yeah. And if he does show it this week, the Malik neighbors is the one that's going to be the biggest beneficiary of that Tennessee so far.
38:51Their past defense has allowed a league high 80.6 completion rate on throws to wide receivers.
38:5631st in yards per target to wide receivers so far.
38:59Elante Taylor, who they are playing on the outside, is not an outside corner.
39:03They're putting like a square peg in a round hole like my eight month old is trying to learn how to develop,
39:09you know, his hands and functions and all that type of stuff.
39:12Um, the one issue with Malik neighbors is that he popped out his right shoulder on like a very innocuous play and
39:19then popped it back in on the sideline. This didn't have issues like so far in his college career, but excuse me,
39:25in his NFL career, but it was a big deal in college.
39:28So that's on my radar. And hopefully he gets through this game and scores a bunch of fancy points, but boom, it's
39:35also one of those that, you know, with the quarterback going down, it's, it's on my radar that like towards the end of the season.
39:42And if neighbors isn't a hundred percent, maybe they just, you know, wind him down and into season a bit early.
39:48The injury is why I'm taking a bit of a cautious approach.
39:51Like I haven't ranked right now. I believe wide receiver 19.
39:54So that's a lot lower than Malik neighbors normally would be.
39:57And if he was completely healthy and like you said, Jameis Winston was doing his usual Jameis Winston thing.
40:03He would pepper him with targets. And this is a great matchup.
40:06The Titans defense, like you said, it's one we're targeting.
40:09They've let five different wide receivers this year, put up over 70 yards and or a touchdown against them in two games.
40:15I mean, like they are just hemorrhaging points to receivers.
40:18So neighbors under ideal circumstances would be easily inside my top 10.
40:22But I'm with you that that shoulder injury is scary.
40:24Now, if he gets banged up in a game, whether it's in this game or whether it's as the season goes along,
40:31he is now always at a much higher risk of just kind of throwing in the towel, taking the rest of the week off.
40:38Or potentially at some point taking the rest of the season off.
40:41And that absolutely scares me. Such a talented player.
40:44But man, just an awful run out for him in terms of his health and then kind of what's happened around him.
40:50Yeah. And I am a bit nervous about how Harbaugh is going to want to work with Jameis Winston.
40:55He doesn't want to live in this high variance, turnover worthy play department, right?
40:59An environment. So that leaves me a bit of concern that they'll just want to run the ball, play defense, win in the margins versus airing it out.
41:07I mean, I don't expect him to air it out.
41:10But even if, you know, it's just a normal passing game, right?
41:14Malik neighbors week one, Boone, I thought it was really promising.
41:17I understand it was on like a smaller number of snaps, but at least he finished the game.
41:22He was on the field. You could talk yourself into a couple of those catches.
41:26He could stay on his feet in the future and win after the catch.
41:30And then week two happens. And like all momentum is just rug pull to use your term away from Malik neighbors here.
41:36So I do wonder if we get back to some of that optimism that we saw in week one, albeit with Jameis at quarterback.
41:43I don't know if you want to talk about any of these other receivers.
41:47I do have one that I want to discuss a little bit here because I think it's important.
41:52And that's Emeka Buka. Hasn't been great so far, like you said, with all of these receivers, but I'm playing the role of Harmon today.
42:00So you know what I said, I'm going to go check out reception perception.
42:04I'm going to see what Matt Harmon says about this one.
42:07And he actually charted them this week. He wrote a little bit about him.
42:11And the breakdown here for Abuka for him is that he's playing well.
42:14He's in that Z receiver role. We know Zach Robinson talked about that before the season.
42:19That's where his skills are kind of lined up to play.
42:22So all of that is good. The production hasn't really been there yet.
42:26Harmon's advice though, and this is why I wanted to bring it up.
42:30Buy low before the eruption game occurs. He thinks it's going to come.
42:33Now I think that's the right call. I don't know if this is going to be the eruption game for him, right?
42:40Cause you're going against the Vikings this week. You have an offense that seems just discombobulated to begin with.
42:45And I think that's, what's kind of holding him back at the moment.
42:49And now you're going to put them up against Brian Flores.
42:52I don't really love that for him, but they get the Packers in week four.
42:56I think that's a much better matchup. Maybe that's where it'll happen.
43:00Regardless. I do think Abuka is a buy low and I'm with Harmon there.
43:04And I wanted to bring that up. Yeah. The question was about week three.
43:08I do not think week three is the time for Emek Agbuka, right?
43:11Like Baker has been playing like a chicken with his head cut off.
43:15And now you're facing Brian Flores, who's going to confuse you pre post snap, send blitzers, extra pass rushers from multiple different angles.
43:22That's a recipe for disaster for how Baker is playing at this moment.
43:25So maybe a switch flips and he decides that, you know what, I'm going to stay a bit patient and actually like
43:32go with the flow of the offense. Uh, and if that's the case, and the other part of this is their left
43:38guard is allowing so many, you know, pressure looks from twists and stunts and gains and all that kind of stuff up front.
43:44So I'm a bit nervous for Emek Agbuka this week, but I agree with you at some point that should click.
43:50And that might happen in week four. We discussed this as we're going through the running back rankings on that show yesterday,
43:57along the way, we're talking about week three, but you're kind of trying to, like I mentioned at the beginning, like you're
44:03trying to figure out how it's going to look down the road, how we can take advantage of values.
44:08And we mentioned on that show, a few guys who were by lows, who maybe even the matchup in week three, isn't
44:15great, but that's a way that you might be able to pry them away from their manager because the manager is going to look on Yahoo.
44:22They're going to see that matchup. They might see the red next to the name, right.
44:27And be scared of it. And then you can actually get them away versus next week.
44:31If they're going against green Bay, everyone's talking about them at that point.
44:35It can be a little harder to get those trades done.
44:38So that's why I still like to point it out, even though, of course, today we are focused on week three here.
44:44Speaking of three, do we want to move to question three, Josh?
44:48Let's do it. And I poked fun at you about the expert league.
44:52I'll now turn the mirror on myself. I drafted Drake May in that league as quarterback three.
44:56Should he already be benched in fancy lineups? It's a simple question.
45:00I mean, Boone, he's opened the season as the quarterback 27 and the quarterback 25.
45:04That was against Seattle and Pittsburgh. So I think it kind of goes back to the question of, hey, those two defenses
45:10actually rank like the top two in terms of defensive EPA so far this season and DVOA.
45:15But is it going to get any better this week for Drake May, especially without AJ Brown, who was supposed to, you
45:22know, take this offense to the next level as they face the Jacksonville Jaguars and only have a team total of 21 and a half points right now?
45:30Yeah, the story with May, if you go back to like his rookie season, right, he had nine outings where he played
45:36at least 85 percent of the snaps. He never finished lower than QB 17 in those games as a rookie.
45:42And he showed us that he had this incredible floor.
45:44The rushing was there. There's a variety of reasons for it.
45:48Then last year he comes out and we know he was the QB three and fantasy points per game behind Josh Allen and Brock Purdy.
45:55Um, but he also was great last year. Josh, do you know how many times Drake May scored less than 14 fantasy points throughout the entire season?
46:02No, I don't inform. It was only once, only once all year was he below 14 fantasy points.
46:08And that's incredible, right? Like that is so good.
46:10That's almost never giving you like that weak losing performance.
46:13Um, and yet this year, the first two games, those are weak losing performances, right?
46:17You're not getting much from your quarterback position. So that's very scary to me.
46:21Could he come out? I mean, I thought there was a chance that Bo Nix was going to have kind of that
46:28bounce back, get right game last week, uh, you know, going into that matchup and it didn't really happen.
46:33Like it was an okay game where he had like 15 fantasy points.
46:37I'm kind of looking at something like that for, for Drake May.
46:40I have him right now as QB 14. And I don't have a lot of faith that this is going to be
46:46the spot where he all of a sudden blows back up.
46:50He's showing us now that he apparently has a lower floor than I thought.
46:54Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like the tight window extended play throws that he was so awesome at last season are just not hitting as well.
47:00And on top of it, they just lost their right guard and Mike on Winu as well.
47:05Um, and as you said, Bo Nix and Deshaun Watson have only had one touchdown a piece against this Jaguars defense.
47:11Uh, I guess the followup question to this is the two popular names, Tyler Shuck, Bryce Young, both have higher projected team totals.
47:18Uh, the Panthers a point more. And then if we look at the new Orleans saints, uh, it's about a point and
47:24a half more at 23 and a quarter. Are we already at that spot with those passing offenses?
47:29Those guys throwing for a lot of yards and a lot of touchdowns that we should take the risk.
47:35Even if they, you know, didn't have the top four quarterback season that Drake may did last year, we should totally reset already.
47:41I in my rankings have them in the two spots right ahead of him and I'll do one better.
47:47I even have Kyler Murray ahead of him in my rankings this week.
47:50Um, which again, we're taking a chance on all of those things because we know when players show us what they are
47:57that, you know, past fantasy production is one of the most predictive things out there.
48:01So if Drake may all of a sudden snaps back and has a great game, could he get things back on track?
48:07Yes, of course. But I like what we've seen from those offenses.
48:11And I think Kyler is going to be pretty good as long as he gets back and he can stay healthy.
48:17Yeah. Unfortunately it's for me, CJ Stroud or Drake may, and we know CJ has no one to throw to, but they
48:23do face the Indianapolis Colts in that defense. So that's my conundrum in this league, but that's, that's enough about me.
48:29Should we go to number four? It could, it could be worse.
48:32You could have Nicholas Singleton on your team for about an hour or whatever it was.
48:37Yeah. Why don't you just drop your quarterback and, and, and, and freak out and I'll just pick him up.
48:43How about that? We can make that work. You know, Gino Smith is out there too.
48:47Like Gino versus Drake may for week three, I think is an intriguing one as well, but maybe we'll get into that question a bit later on.
48:55Okay. Number four, after Terrence Ferguson's Monday night football performance and who can a cool, uh, quote, not progressing in his rehabilitation to get back on the field.
49:03That's directly from Sean McVay. Where does Terrence Ferguson rank for you among tight ends if, and when Pukunukua misses?
49:09And then the follow-up is, is he just an overall flex candidate?
49:12If you already have a good starting tight end on your roster?
49:15Absolutely love this question. I'm glad you threw it in there because I don't think we've talked enough about Terrence Ferguson this week.
49:22Maybe you have on your shows. I haven't really gotten a chance to do it too much here.
49:27Um, I have two things on it. One, I have moved him up to tight end 13.
49:32So just kind of on that fringe, you know, and I think he could have a much better week and I don't want to spoil.
49:39We do a group piece every week on Fridays where we have a bold prediction for the week.
49:44Ferguson is actually my bold prediction this week, Josh.
49:47And the bold prediction is that he is going to be a top three fantasy tight end in week three.
49:53And we saw him get nine targets last week.
49:55That was seven more than the third place person in that office.
49:59Of course, Devante Adams, 10 targets caught all of them.
50:01Just time machine dialed up the vintage performance. You know, all his accolades, all his flowers go to him.
50:07Devante had a phenomenal game, but they really don't have much else proven in terms of this passing attack and it is
50:13Terrence Ferguson and 54 yards and a score was a good game in that one.
50:17I think there's an even higher ceiling here for him.
50:20I mean, like I said, nine targets, he caught six of them could have been a lot bigger of a day for him there.
50:27So they don't have that proven number three. He is that guy who's stepping up into the number two spot.
50:33And I'm really excited, man. Like one of the things that I think we talked about on Sunday morning on fantasy football
50:39live was that whenever last year, either Puka or Adams were out of the lineup, we saw Ferguson score a touchdown.
50:45What happened a week last week? That's exactly what happened.
50:48He scores a touchdown in that game. So this guy's very talented.
50:51Is it possible, Josh, that like, and it depends how long Puka's out for, like, they're not really talking very positively about it for this week.
50:59And this could be an injury that could linger.
51:01Could he be like what we had hoped Colston Loveland was going to be?
51:05Like, could he all of a sudden be this guy that steps up and ends up having like a top five kind
51:12of season or even, you know, just being a mid range tight end one for fantasy would be a huge win for Ferguson.
51:18Yeah, it's possible. I think Harmon put it as some of his route running and then attacking the football and all that
51:25type of stuff kind of looks like Bambi on ice.
51:27Like he's not quite as fluid or in control of his limbs as Colston Loveland is, who maybe is like the evolved version.
51:34But the target competition is very different. And, you know, his quarterback and Terrence Ferguson is not missing multiple games here.
51:40This projection is just insulting, I think, to what T Ferg is going to bring to the table in week three.
51:46I'm guessing that Puka is probably not factored in here.
51:49There's no way that that's the projection if Puka Nakua's got a zero.
51:53Yes. I will say the matchup on paper is difficult, right?
51:56It's against the Denver Broncos. But the usage has improved as you outlined.
51:59Like seven of his nine targets last week were in the slot, including his touchdown.
52:04The Rams did play 13 personnel on 53% of their snaps without Nakua.
52:07They ran 13 personnel on 31% of their pass plays.
52:10And he actually ran more routes in 11 personnel last week than he did his entire rookie season.
52:15And Boone, I asked that flex question because like if Titan, by the way, is the most deep position in fantasy football right now.
52:22And I don't think I've ever been able to say that.
52:25So if you drafted like Travis Kelsey or if you drafted Dawn Kincaid and you at the end of your draft selected
52:32Terrence Ferguson or you picked him up after week one when he had a dud and someone else dropped him panic move.
52:38I think now more than ever, Titan should be in consideration for flex spots because of, you know, the cycle that we're
52:44in with the NFL with more heavier personnel sets.
52:47That is decreasing the quality and especially the quantity of receivers on the field and receivers that are available to us in fantasy football.
52:54And the heavier personnel looks then means when they pass out of those, then the tight end like here with the Rams
53:00becomes the second or third best pass catcher on the team.
53:03So we have eliminated like the Cole Beasley types in the NFL and in fantasy football.
53:08And now we're getting the Juwan Johnson's or the Terrence Ferguson's, for example, of pure receiving tight ends that are the second
53:14or third best pass catcher on teams that throw the football well or throw it a lot.
53:19And in that regard, I do want to start moving forward instead of like the wide receiver 36.
53:24Hey, plug in or even like the running back 30, plug in a tight end and see what happens.
53:29That's where I was going to go with it.
53:32The running backs are kind of a similar situation with so many teams deploying like committees or tandems and some of these
53:38teams not having great offenses and it really lowers the projection for those guys.
53:42And all of a sudden you start to look at either deeper receivers or potentially tight ends this year.
53:48And yeah, I feel like every season, Josh, before the year, it normally goes the same every year.
53:53We say, man, tight end, so deep, tight end is so deep.
53:56And then the season starts and you realize actually there's like seven or eight good tight ends and then the rest is just a complete crapshoot.
54:04But this is the first year in a while that I can remember where we're like, man, there are a ton of
54:10guys at that position who are producing, who you could see 50 yards and a touchdown week in and week out.
54:16And yeah, I think that's a really good call.
54:19And there are some teams though in the past, I have not had a lot of success putting a tight end in the flex.
54:25I normally never want to do it. This is a year where I have actually gone that route and I think it's totally viable.
54:32Okay. That's all I've got here. Should we move on?
54:35Let's keep going. Yeah. We, we got one coming up that I'm very excited to debate and let, you know, a change that I made based on it.
54:43But anyway, maybe it's the next one coming up.
54:46Okay. Next question. We got to rank these flex options for the ranker himself, Justin Boone.
54:50Okay. So the names I'm posing to you and a lot of these have been pickups over the first two weeks of the season.
54:57So I think that there'll be, you know, notable names for our audience here.
55:01Devon Bellay, Saints wide receiver against the Las Vegas Raiders this week.
55:05Debo Samuel versus the Arizona Cardinals. Dontavian Wicks at the Chicago Bears.
55:08And then Trevon Henderson, who missed week one, came back in week two, but faces a tough rushing defense in Jacksonville.
55:14So, so often we obviously do running back ranking shows and wide receivers, but maybe the biggest conundrum are the pure flex spots.
55:21And you have to decide between wide receivers and running back.
55:24So Boone help the people. What's your list here?
55:26Yeah. Sunday morning. We handle a lot of those on fantasy football live.
55:30People can send their questions in there and we, we answer those.
55:33So this is the one where I saw this question in the rundown for the show.
55:38It made me go take a look at my rankings and it made me question where I had these guys.
55:44And I moved Trevon Henderson to the bottom of this list.
55:47I had him second. I have now moved him to the bottom based on that matchup.
55:51And based on the fact that I don't think that last week was a sign of him just completely taking over this backfield.
55:58I think they're going to reset. They're going to come back this week.
56:02They're going to use both of those backs. And when last year they were in tough matchups, like very tough defenses, especially tough run defense.
56:09If you think about the playoffs, they tended to just lean on Ramondre.
56:13They tended to just kind of go with the guy they trust.
56:16Now coming off a week where he's fumbling the way that he did, maybe they don't have quite as much trust in
56:22him at the moment, but I think they're going to give him a chance to get this back to being sort of
56:29that committee with both of them involved. I don't necessarily think that last week was a sign that all of a sudden
56:35Travion Henderson has taken over this backfield. So for me, because of that Jaguars matchup and how scary that defense is against
56:41the run, it's moved him down to the bottom.
56:44So the other three, I would listen to an argument.
56:47Okay, so he's number four. He is number four.
56:49So I would listen to an argument for any order that you wanted to put the three receivers in.
56:55I have it. Debo, Dontavian Wicks, and Devon Vele, but I could see all of these guys coming through this week.
57:01So I think, and depending on, you know, the Devontae Smith injury, if he misses, I'm kind of viewing this practice for
57:07the Eagles as, you know, your typical Wednesday one.
57:09So it's not a big deal if they miss.
57:12And so if Devontae misses tomorrow, then it's a bigger deal because that's Monday night football.
57:17I think I agree with you. I think I'm going to go Debo number one because, I mean, this 49ers team is projected for 28 points.
57:24He went from running a route on 53% of dropbacks in week one up to 80% last week with, you know, Mike
57:30Evans being mostly a full-time player, but some, you know, snaps he takes off.
57:34And then the Demarcus Robinson injury, Debo Samuel is all the way back to being a full-time player for this team.
57:40We know in week one, he got like three targets out of the backfield.
57:44And I think if they score 28 points, there's a good chance that Debo Samuel has one of those touchdowns.
57:50You know, I mean the, the draw a play on a napkin stuff that Cal Shady can do with him in the
57:56red zone always seems to appear in matchups from this tree.
57:59And, you know, I think he's going to take one to, to Mike before let's put it that way.
58:05Yeah. He's like a frisky wide receiver three for fantasy.
58:08I didn't expect that he had a lot left in the tank and there's an element of like, they don't have any other choice.
58:14Like Mike Evans has been a little banged up here to Marcus Robinson's hurt.
58:18You know, I'm so sorry that the strip club is closed here for a couple.
58:23Months. Hopefully we can reopen that later in the season, but it would have hit so good.
58:28I know. I know. It really looks good off the start, but what can we do?
58:32We have to adapt and I'm keeping them at IR spots.
58:35I haven't dropped them anywhere. We'll see if he can do something down the stretch, but for the time being, Debo has
58:42a huge role in this offense in an offense.
58:44That's going to be projected for a very big point total every single week.
58:48So yeah, he's got a great shot to score a touchdown.
58:51He's got a great shot to get targets and some carries out of the backfield potentially.
58:56So he, in my mind, he's got to be the top guy here.
59:00And like I said, for me, that's a wide receiver three in terms of rankings.
59:04And then I think I would put Ville next.
59:06I mean, he has at least five catches in four of his past five games going back to last season.
59:12And we know now without Jordan Tyson, he's playing 93 and 92% of the dropbacks to open the year.
59:18The Saints and the Raiders. I mean, it kind of depends on if the Raiders want to try to like grind this
59:24one out or if they're going to hit some of those explosive plays like they did last week to shorten some of
59:30their drives and score some long touchdowns. That's very difficult to do against a Brandon Staley defense.
59:35So I think that's part of the reason why the Saints are only projected for 23 and a quarter points like the
59:41the total for this game is quite low at just 43 and a half points.
59:46But I still think Ville is an integral part of this passing attack.
59:49And I think he is the borderline second passing option, obviously behind Chris Olave, but kind of tied with Juwan Johnson here.
59:56So I would rank Ville second. To me, this is volume versus like upside, in my opinion.
60:00Right. Ville has the volume. That's the fast paced offense.
60:03You know, he has that role, at least until Jordan Tyson comes back.
60:07We don't know when that's going to be. So he's like a pretty solid play.
60:11If you want to play it safe, you go with him.
60:14And again, like you said there at the beginning of this, we don't know about Devon Smith.
60:19Like we'll keep an eye on that all week long and we'll see that situation.
60:24Um, which did play a little bit less last week and you would expect that as the weeks go along that McKay
60:30Lemon might take on a bigger role. I think they got Darius Cooper involved last week.
60:34That's the one is more like that. Yeah. That's kind of like a weird aspect of it.
60:39He's more of like that wide receiver for flex play, like more a little boomer busty.
60:44I know he's boomed in the first two weeks, but really why he's getting the nod for me is the matchup.
60:50He's going against that banged up bears defense. And I think they'll be able to get over the top against them.
60:56And I think he's probably going to have another big player too in this game.
61:00So I'm more than willing to play him. But again, it's upside in my mind is with Wicks, but the safer play is probably Valey.
61:07Yeah. Since I'm so invested in the Eagles this year because of Saquon, I was asking a bunch of Eagles reporters this
61:14week just about how they can fix things. And they mentioned that Darius Cooper is playing because he's the best blocking wide receiver on the team.
61:21Now, some of the snaps last week were for Wicks, but they believe that his snaps moving forward might actually take away
61:27from Makai Lemon because, you know, the production that Wicks is putting out there versus Lemon is noticeably different.
61:33And Darius Cooper then can be closer to the formation and kind of worked as a pseudo tight end.
61:38Also, they have no tight ends that are healthy.
61:41I mean, they just signed Zach Ertz. And they mentioned that they might run more six offensive linemen sets.
61:46And if there's six offensive linemen in the field and they pass out those looks too, that's, I think, entirely favorable for
61:52someone like Wicks as well, because there might only be really two route concepts out there on the field.
61:58So the more the Eagles do to help their running game and then pass out of those sets, the more it can help Devontae Smith and Dontavian Wicks.
62:06Yeah. I figured when you brought up the extra lineman thing that we'd be talking more about Barkley there, that it's just
62:12another reason to get excited about Barkley's turnaround for sure here.
62:15Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you. I really like Makai Lemon, but even though I said he played a little more last week,
62:22yeah, the opportunity, the targets are still going Wicks way.
62:24He's not really getting it yet. And he was always going to be, when we saw what happened, we've seen this with other rookie receivers before.
62:32If there's an injury that occurs in training camp, or in his case, OTAs and training camp, there's no chance that they're
62:38going to hit the ground running early in the season.
62:41Right? So we'll see if he can get it going eventually, but he's more of like a mid-season or later season player.
62:47I still believe in the player. All right. Last question.
62:50The Lions have allowed 41 and 30 points so far this year.
62:54So simple one. Can the Jets keep up? Like, should we play all of our Jets, you know, fantasy options, not just
63:00Garrett Wilson and Brees Hall, but one night Adnay Mitchell and, and even Gino Smith.
63:04Now the markets would say otherwise here. Boone. I mean, they are only projected for 20 and a half points compared to the Lions 27.
63:11So they are again, projecting for many, many fewer points in the 40 and the 30 that the Lions have given up so far.
63:18Look, I don't like to go against, you know, let's say the computers and all that type of stuff.
63:24But I kind of feel like there's some shootout potential here, especially with like Aaron Glenn knowing exactly the buttons to press against this defense.
63:31So I'm in on Adnay Mitchell and Gino Smith this week.
63:34What about you? I don't know if I have the stones to play Gino Smith, like your decision there with Drake May.
63:40I don't know if I can go that far with it, but yeah, I'm, I'm interested in this Jets offense this week.
63:46And moving forward, we talked about Brees Hall on the running back show yesterday.
63:50Like this is a defense that gave up a hundred scrimmage yards to Travis H.
63:55And Kendra Miller in week one, 139 yards to James Cook last week.
63:58Brees has looked very good this year. He's producing pretty well.
64:02And he's even catching the ball like that. It's just great.
64:05They talked before the season that this offense was going to be built around him, built around Garrett Wilson.
64:10They didn't really talk of Ady Mitchell as much though.
64:13Beat reporters were mentioning that Ady Mitchell and Gino Smith were having this connection and we're seeing it come through.
64:19So I'm willing to play all those guys. And I think somebody that is so sneaky right now that you could put in your lineup.
64:26You don't have to, because there's so many good tight ends, but Kenyon Sadiq is a guy that I think we're going
64:32to see a lot more from as the season goes along as a player that was taken early in the draft has that pedigree.
64:39He's available in 84% of Yahoo leagues. And with Mason Taylor now week to week, he's going to get even more of an opportunity.
64:46And when we talk about rookies dealing with injuries before the season, he was one of those guys.
64:51He missed a bunch of time. So we knew it was kind of going to be a slow ramp up for him.
64:57I was excited in week one to see him score a touchdown, to see him use them the way that they did.
65:04So he's somebody that I think is going to be a fantasy factor before the year's out.
65:08And it's probably going to be sooner rather than later.
65:11Yeah. And the lines are missing three other defensive backs.
65:14Brian Branch, Kirby Joseph might not play this year.
65:17They just put Avante Maddox on into reserve as well.
65:20Look, I think that the Jets can protect against the lines pass rush, which has been top 13, really in both categories
65:26in terms of pressures and pressure rate and all that type of stuff, especially with Aidan Hutchinson.
65:31I really think Geno Smith can have a day here.
65:34Rich Rebar brought up in his worksheet that Detroit has allowed a league high five touchdowns against the Blitz so far this season when they have blitzed.
65:41And in two games versus the Blitz, Geno is 14 of 19 in completing his passes.
65:46So a lot of people are Cardinals curious. I've been Jets curious.
65:49And I think that's going to bear out successfully and fruitfully for me moving forward.
65:54I agree with you. I think there's a lot of opportunity for this offense and a team that people have just been
66:00down on for so long and for good reason.
66:02And all of a sudden, there's some very interesting pieces here.
66:06Garrett Wilson back in that fringe low end wide receiver one territory.
66:09Aidy Mitchell's wide receiver three flex. Like he does have that connection.
66:12That was not a lie with Geno Smith and he's producing and this is a great matchup for him.
66:18So definitely feel good about playing him and Braylon Allen, somebody that needs to be rostered everywhere because I don't want to see it happen.
66:25There's got to be some wood here. I can knock on Josh.
66:28But if we see Brees Hall go down, Braylon Allen is set up to get back in there and really do something
66:35in this offense with the way it's constructed behind that offensive line.
66:38And he's got a little bit of value as like a desperation flex.
66:42Heck, in the office league, I wish I had Braylon Allen.
66:45I'd be putting Braylon Allen probably in my lineup this week, Josh, if I had him on my team.
66:50That's how bad things are at the moment here.
66:53But are we going to see Geno Smith in your lineup or are we going to have to wait until Sunday to find that out?
67:00I might pick up three quarterbacks and drop all three of them in a four hour span.
67:05So I'm just going to keep you guessing. I'm going to keep you on your toes, Boone.
67:10And by the way, you saying there needs to be some wood for me to knock on when your entire background is
67:16just a wall of a former tree is quite a hilarious visual for me.
67:20The question is more whether I could reach it or not.
67:23And I reached it just fine here. But we're going to have to break when we come back here.
67:29I'm going to be teeing up the games that no one wants to watch this week.
67:33And hear me out. I am going to tell you why these games could make a difference for your fantasy matchups this week and for your fantasy season.
67:41And then we're going to be answering your fantasy questions a little bit later.
67:45You don't want to miss that. So stick around.
67:48All right. We are back with Josh Norris. And it is that time.
67:51Welcome to no one's games of the week. Kind of sounded like Josh yawning.
67:55Was that you that they got the sound bite there?
67:58It was a little bit. It sounded like you.
68:01Remember, everybody, this is a segment for the sickos here, right?
68:04We're going to talk about the three worst games on the slate, at least in my opinion.
68:09And I'm going to explain to you why I think you should care about them for fantasy.
68:14And Josh, this first matchup, man, like before the season, I think people would have dismissed it.
68:19Now it actually has some really fun elements here.
68:21Panthers. You're just missing it right now. I am not yet.
68:24I am not yet. Come on. These are two teams that for a while have not been great.
68:29I know this because, Josh, my wife is actually a Carolina Panthers fan, of course.
68:34Wow. She's a huge cat lover. She saw their logo.
68:37She wanted their merchandise. So we have one Carolina Panthers fan in my house and one Bills fan.
68:42But on the Panthers side here, we should give a lot of credit to their OC, Brad Isik, right?
68:47Like he took over play calling duties. This offense is absolutely humming.
68:51Really, really exciting through two weeks. We have to provide the caveat that they've played the Bears defense, the Falcons defense.
68:57That makes things a little bit easier, but they did what they were supposed to do and some in those games, right?
69:0337 points, 31 points. We talked about Chuba Hubbard on the running back ranking show.
69:07I think he's probably the best pick in fantasy so far through two weeks.
69:11Could go down as the best fantasy pick of the year here.
69:15Dalton Kincaid, probably also a really good one. But Chuba Hubbard, in my mind, number one.
69:19And that was even before Jonathan Brooks ends up getting injured, hits IR.
69:23He's out for six to eight weeks here. But Hubbard, three touchdowns in two games, two touchdowns as a pass catcher.
69:29This week, now he's getting the Browns. This should be a competitive game or a very positive game script for the Panthers.
69:35Carolina's favorite on the road here. I mean, we're walking a bit of a fine line with Hubbard because the 13 touches, 14 touches per game here.
69:43He's still getting it done. And you have to feel really good because he has no target, no competition for touches in that backfield.
69:50But Austin Eckler's in there for a visit, Josh.
69:52Like, A.J. Dillon is in this backfield right now and set up to be the number two.
69:57Like, this is Hubbard's backfield. Great fantasy play. We know with the passing game, Tedderall McMillan, Jalen Coker, both these guys have
70:03been phenomenal through the first two weeks. Darren Waller is back to being a streaming option for fantasy.
70:09This guy caught two touchdowns last week. Caught a touchdown in the opener.
70:12It was called back on a penalty. Otherwise, people are probably even more excited about him.
70:17And then it comes down to Bryce Young, who we mentioned earlier is a guy that I have up ahead of somebody like Drake May.
70:24I think is that borderline low-end QB1 this week.
70:27Somebody you could certainly play in fantasy. Thrown for a ton of touchdowns.
70:30Looking great. Man, Josh. Like, this is one of the most exciting offenses right now from a fantasy perspective.
70:36Then why insult them and call them a game that no one cares about?
70:40How dare you do this to the Carolina Panthers?
70:42One of the best offenses in the NFL through two weeks.
70:45One of the best stories in the NFL. Trust me, I have the receipts of how many people wrote off Bryce Young.
70:52Some might even work for this network. And one might even be my co-host.
70:56And look what he's done. Look at what the improvement is.
70:59You know? He's no longer too small. No longer he can't play.
71:02He is seeing the field because he actually does that, despite what people think of he can't read the middle of the field.
71:09And his anticipation and arm to these downfield passing attacks.
71:12Brad Idzik has taken everything up a notch. They are, you know, being a bit quicker to get to the line so
71:18he can work through motions and sets and change it if he needs to and see what the defense does.
71:24Other times, like for the Chuba Hubbard touchdown last week, it was a quick snap on fourth down at the goal line.
71:30That's entirely new here. Plus, again, pedal to the metal in week one, series one versus waiting until week 11 of last year of throwing down the field.
71:38I guess my big question here when we look at the matchup is that the Browns run the most man coverage in the NFL.
71:45Many of the big completions that we saw last week to Jalen Coker and especially T-Mac were versus zone coverage.
71:51That's how they could manipulate it with their movement and the routes and the concepts to find, like, these big voids in that area.
71:57So they'll have to win in the tight windows this week.
72:01And that's a bit of a different animal. They saw that in week one against the Chicago Bears.
72:06It was a bunch of double moves, and that's how Coker, you know, got the long touchdown and then another toe drag near the goal line.
72:13And so that's what I'm watching for here with the Panthers offense versus the Browns defense.
72:18And I think this is just making sure, Josh, that, like, everyone is aware just how good the Panthers have been, that this is not the old Panthers.
72:26This is the new Panthers. And I also think when it comes to the Browns, like the Browns have basically just had
72:32a spot locked in in this segment for I don't know how many years now, ever since it started, probably.
72:38Like, the Browns just have to be in here.
72:40And yet the Browns, I know Harmon's talked about being Cardinals curious.
72:44You talked about being Jets curious earlier. I'm kind of Browns curious.
72:47And I said this before the season that because they were getting those rookie receivers, that there's, like, a legitimate chance with Todd Monk in there.
72:55We could see this team pass more. They don't need great quarterback play.
72:58They just need, like, average quarterback play. I'm not sure we're quite there yet.
73:02Yes, it's mostly on two big plays, but those still count.
73:05We're not taking those away from him. That's the kind of receiver that he is.
73:10Touchdown scoring, making big plays downfield. He can do that.
73:13Casey Concepcion, he isn't getting quite as much playing time, but he's not that far off in routes run.
73:18And I think there's a lot more to be unlocked here for him.
73:22We haven't seen the big plays come yet, but he's still got a ton of talent and he's going to figure it out.
73:28And they're going to continue to use him more.
73:31I wonder if this team gets rid of Jerry Judy at some point.
73:35Like, does Jerry Judy really need to be a part of this whole thing when you have these two receivers?
73:40You have Harold Fannin Jr. at tight end. Quinjohn Judkins, we had that conversation earlier, but I got a lot of hope for him as well.
73:48And even if it doesn't work out for fantasy, there's an element of, like, hate watching this game, Josh, where if it
73:54goes bad, this is the Browns home opener. If Deshaun Watson comes out here and has a bad game, this crowd is
74:00going to turn on him very quickly. And that could be, like, weirdly entertaining to watch as well.
74:05I'll be honest, Boone. I would love Deshaun Watson to pull a Cooper Rush here and fumble on his first snap and
74:12throw an interception on his fourth snap. I would love to see it.
74:15I want to see the reaction. I want to see the chaos.
74:19Unfortunately, the line that the markets are giving here at just two and a half is on my radar a little bit.
74:25Like, I kind of think that, again, the markets believe that the Browns have a fantastic chance of winning this game.
74:31Look, the Panthers have missed 24 tackles on defense so far this season.
74:35That goes into the Quinjohn Judkins conversation that we had earlier.
74:38Also, if Casey Concepcion gets the ball after the catch, we know he can make moves and run.
74:43And Denzel Boston, to your point, has broken a few and that's how he scored his touchdowns.
74:48And then to Denzel Boston, on the outside, he's going to face off against J.C.
74:52Horn and Mike Jackson, who were very good last season, but really haven't been tested as much so far this year on, like, in-phase plays.
74:59And Boston, as you said, the wide receiver 19 and 10 to open the season.
75:04So it's on my radar. And the Panthers defense was miserable in week one and then very good in week two.
75:10So who are they? Like, what is the truth here?
75:13And if Deshaun Watson plays turnover free football, I think the Cleveland Browns win this game.
75:17I put it in there because I felt like it needed to be mentioned that we had to make the case for
75:23it because those are two teams that for a long time have occupied space here.
75:28But this is an interesting game for fantasy. It certainly is, as is the second game that I'm going to bring up here.
75:34Titans at Giants. The Brian Dable revenge game here, Josh.
75:37And let's start with the Giants. I think there's so much.
75:40Exactly. There's so much more to talk about on the Giants side.
75:44We'll leave Dable for a minute from now. With the Jackson Dart injury completely takes the wind out of the sails here for the Giants.
75:51We mentioned earlier, we were talking about neighbors, how this could still work out with the Titans defense.
75:56Really that secondary getting crushed by receivers. Jameis Winston, if he can hold his own here, we could see them put up some points.
76:03We could see them really come through if neighbors can stay healthy.
76:06And then there's my guy, Cam Scadaboo, right? Can Cam Scadaboo continue to produce?
76:10They played last week four different running backs, but we saw him get more involved in the passing game.
76:16He had four targets after having zero in week one.
76:18And there's a chance. You think about this coaching staff.
76:21You think about what they have, the quarterback situation now.
76:24Could they potentially lean on Scadaboo more moving forward?
76:27It's possible. I'm trying to stay excited about this Giants offense.
76:30Josh, is there any reason to still be excited here?
76:33Are you kind of losing hope now with Jackson Dart out of the picture?
76:37Because that's another thing here, right? When these teams have these significant injuries to stars, especially a quarterback, you lose some of that playoff potential.
76:44You know, everybody before the season tries to dream of being a Super Bowl winner.
76:48With Jackson Dart out of the picture, I think they probably realize that's not going to happen now.
76:53And how does that impact them a week later?
76:56I'll just reiterate that I think this game and the game plan is going to tell us a lot in-house of what they think of Jameis Winston.
77:04That if the contract that they gave him was just, hey, he's the glue guy.
77:08We don't really want him to start. Or if it's, hey, actually, he's one of the better second quarterbacks in the league.
77:14And when he goes in there, we're still going to throw the football a lot.
77:18Like, again, they are favorites in this game against a secondary that you should be able to throw on.
77:24Everyone is going to throw on the Tennessee Titans.
77:26They're going to be difficult to run on because of Simmons and company up front.
77:31And so what do they do? Do they say, actually, we're going to attack the strength of the Titans defense and just
77:37run the ball, play ball control, play defense, win the margins?
77:40Or are we going to actually live in this awkwardness, difficult gray area of, hey, is Jameis Winston going to hit his
77:46back foot and fire it on time to who the open receiver is?
77:50Or is he going to run around, throw it up for grabs against double coverage like he did in Monday Night Football?
77:56So it's going to tell me a lot of what they view of Jameis.
78:00And if, if, Boone, the rumors and the buzz gets a little bit louder that like Tom Palacero and company and Adam
78:07Schefter already mentioning that the Giants might trade for a quarterback here.
78:10That would be interesting. Before we move on to the Titans here, your thoughts on Isaiah Likely?
78:15Do you still think he's in that mix? Like after week one, it looked like he was going to be that almost Dalton Kincaid level breakout guy.
78:23You still have hope for him or are we bumping him way down?
78:26Well, the thing is, if they play ball control and if they run the ball, he's not going to be on the field nearly as much.
78:34Like he's back there for all the dropbacks. But then you have like Theo Johnson and Chris Manhurts and Patrick Ricard and
78:40all these other names that are just much better blockers.
78:43So I know we got the nine targets last week, but what?
78:46It went for like 33 yards. So obviously the opportunities there and in week one, it was all about the red zone production that he had.
78:54And he was a go to player for them in that area.
78:57I just have a feeling they're going to be in the red zone less often moving forward.
79:02Fair enough. And then on the Titans side, I think I want to talk about the Giants first because I remember last
79:08year when Harmon and I did this segment and it was the Titans every single week to the point where if I
79:15remember correctly, we might have like banned them at one point because it was just too obvious every single week.
79:20And I was hopeful this year, man. I was hopeful.
79:23Carnal Tate's there, like maybe with day ball there, you get more out of this offense and Cam Ward starts to develop.
79:30And yeah, he did some things last week. But right now, Josh, like from a fantasy perspective, this is the hardest one to make a case for.
79:37And I know in last week's game, they fought against the Eagles.
79:41They almost pulled off the upset in that one.
79:43But from a fantasy perspective, is there anybody in this offense that you really feel confident starting?
79:48You can't start the receivers. Carnal Tate's just somebody that you're maybe still keeping on your bench.
79:53Wando Robinson is doing nothing at the moment. Gunnar Helm, I think we knew that wasn't really going to work out.
79:59He was sort of a deep sleeper. That's not happening.
80:02There's just not much. And then in the backfield right now, we have Tajay Spears missing the first two practices of the week.
80:08They called it soreness yesterday. I'm not sure if there's an update on that yet today.
80:13Tony Pollard missed the first practice, but he's back out there today.
80:16This could be a spot against the Giants where maybe Tony Pollard can get into your lineup as like an RB3 flex type.
80:23But you just can't feel great having a Titan in your lineup at all for fantasy at the moment.
80:28Is it fair to say that the best Tennessee Titans asset in fantasy football is their defense for week three?
80:34Look, points for defenses, it doesn't matter about point totals.
80:37It's all about sacks and turnovers. So if you can generate pressure on Jameis Winston, if you get a fumble, a pick
80:43six, an interception, I mean, it wouldn't shock me at all, Boone, if we look back on this and the highest point
80:50getter from the Titans in week three is their defense.
80:52Well, we know who's not going to have a good game for them.
80:56And that's Nick Singleton, because he's not on my roster anymore in the expert league.
81:00Right. So there's no chance just now. Tajay Spears will be out and he'll get garbage time work.
81:06And he did have, he got one series last week.
81:08So they did work him in a little bit.
81:11We'll keep an eye on the injury to Spears and see if Nick Singleton, somebody that maybe later in the season, I
81:17always kind of talked about him as a guy that if they fall out of the playoff picture, which they're going to,
81:24maybe they want to find out what they have in their day three rookie back.
81:28And maybe they give him a chance there, but at the moment, even I'm struggling here to find a lot of positives to say about the Titans.
81:36Let's talk about the last one. Seahawks at commanders, normally defending Super Bowl champions would not make this spot, but this is
81:42a game that man, this matchup could be rough.
81:4440 and a half projected point total on this one, which is on the lower side.
81:49We don't know yet if Sam Darnold is going to be back or if it's going to be Drew Locke versus Marcus Mariota.
81:56Um, another one where before the season, you would have figured that, you know, this would be a game where we could get some fantasy fireworks.
82:03I'm not so sure anymore. Darnold limited in practice to start the week.
82:07Jadarian Price, George Helani also limited with injuries. We have no guarantee that price is going to play in this one.
82:13Even if he does, Emmanuel Wilson might get leaned on a little more because there's really no reason to overwork price.
82:19If he's not a hundred percent in a game that you would think that they'll be able to control with their defense
82:25and just being the, the much better team. And Jaden Daniels not being out there to, to be that wild card for Washington.
82:32Um, man, I mean, Wilson, I guess could be sneaky, you know, over 90 rushing yards last week.
82:37I mean, JSN is the guy that just makes this offense worth watching weekend and week out.
82:42And one of the best fantasy assets out there and congrats to everybody that drafted him because he looks phenomenal through two weeks.
82:48Josh. I will say, I think that fourth quarter last week for Seahawks was a bit of a sliding doors moment for
82:54Jadarian Price in that he got banged up with about two minutes to go in the third quarter.
83:00Uh, only played one more snap and no more carries after that.
83:03Emmanuel Wilson got 14 carries. Okay. And looked very good on them.
83:06Uh, I think Jadarian Price would have gotten like six or eight or even 10 of those.
83:11And that would have been sweet, not just for my fancy lineups, but that would have been sweet to see him get
83:18that because he's an explosive play machine. Um, and unfortunately on those Emmanuel Wilson looked quite good.
83:22And it's like to this point now where George Helani is way off in the distance.
83:27And now we're back to Jadarian Price and Emmanuel Wilson.
83:30And now Price has, you know, the shoulders last chest thing.
83:33And he's practicing on like a limited basis this week.
83:36It sounds like he's going to play, but we're not so sure.
83:39And then Emmanuel Wilson, while he got stuffed at times at the goal line, it certainly seems like he's earned enough favor to continue this running back split.
83:47So again, I just want to point out that like this game that we play can be so fickle and it can
83:54be so frustrating that just one injury has kept us away from like another 10 carries.
83:58I think for Jadarian Price and maybe a touchdown and some explosives on top of that.
84:03Um, but yeah, just quickly on the commanders here, Boone, I think right now they're two and 12 in their last 14 games.
84:09If my math is correct, two and 12 in their last 14 games, and they're going to have Marcus Mariota starting at quarterback.
84:16Um, is this the end of like the Dan Quinn era as we know it?
84:20Yeah, I think it definitely is. I mean, you just, you look at this team and I mentioned it with the giants, right?
84:27When you lose that star quarterback, the wind's coming out of your sails.
84:30And I think with Jaden Daniels for a second year in a row here, suffering an injury, and now they're going to
84:37have to battle through this, even though Marcus Mario can give you 60, 70% of what Daniels does.
84:42And we've seen this offense still have some fantasy value in the past when he's out there.
84:47And we've seen him even actually be like a decent fantasy streamer, depending on the matchup, because he's going to run a
84:53little bit and they have some decent weapons. And yet this matchup being the first one out of the gate after the injury going against the Seahawks defense.
85:01No, thank you. Like I'm not playing these running backs.
85:04Um, Stefan digs was somebody that was coming on a little bit.
85:07You got to look at him now as a very, very risky flex option.
85:11Terry McLaurin. I saw Terry McLaurin. I know we, we mentioned him earlier.
85:15I saw him get dropped in a league and I admit initially when I saw him hit the waiver wire, I was stunned.
85:21I was like, Oh my God, Terry McLaurin. And then I paused for a second.
85:26I was like, yeah, that's about right. Like, I don't even know that I'm going to go try to get him right.
85:32Like what would be the point other than a potential trade to somewhere else?
85:36And I don't think because of his contract, that's going to happen.
85:39So man, it's not looking good for Washington. We'll get some matchups here, potentially coming up where you could feel a little
85:46bit better about sneaking some of these guys into your lineup, but going against the Seahawks defense, that is not one of them.
85:52No, it's, it's definitely not. Um, I serve the producers.
85:55I keep going back and forth here. Uh, speaking of a quarterback going against an opposite defense.
86:00In this game last year for Sam Darnold, he threw for 330 yards and four touchdowns against the commanders.
86:05However, we know that Durante Jones is the new coordinator for the commanders.
86:09He comes from the Brian Flores tree. And obviously Sam Darnold was a part of the Vikings with Brian Flores there.
86:15So I kind of wonder if he knows the buttons and levers to pull to maybe get Sam Darnold off injury and
86:21off missing a week, uh, kind of off his spot and off his rocker a little bit.
86:26Obviously like the spread in this game is outrageous at seven and a half points.
86:31And so the Seahawks should smash this one. But, uh, that is just something I'm going to be looking out for that.
86:37We barely saw Sam Darnold in week one. And now he's coming back to a coordinator that should know some areas that of are some of his weaknesses.
86:45Yeah. And just in terms of where I'm ranking these guys, um, the ones that you're going to want to play anyway,
86:51of course, just send, but in terms of the backfield for the Seahawks, uh, generic price.
86:56If he plays, I'll have him down in like the high end RB three range and it would be higher.
87:01It would be RB two given the matchup if it weren't for the health situation, but obviously that's going to be a problem, I think.
87:09And then Emmanuel Wilson certainly can get into your lineup here as like an RB three flex type.
87:14We expect him to get the goal line work.
87:16And like we just discussed there, he's a guy that's probably going to get more carries than he would have based on
87:23the injury and based on what he did with his touches last week.
87:26So keep that in mind. Those guys could actually get in your lineup this week in a game that man, before the
87:33season, when you think about, you know, the Seahawks, what they did last year and the commanders with new coordinator and their quarterback.
87:39And now it's just a whole different story. And that's unfortunately how it goes.
87:43Sometimes we have one more break to take though.
87:46Do not go away. We're taking your questions in the Toyota mailbag right after this.
87:50We are back and welcome to the fantasy hotline presented by Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL.
87:55And this week, the tectonic plates of the running back landscape have been moving.
87:59They've been shifting. Some of it is like the usual early season changes.
88:03Some of it's based on injuries. So we asked which running back are you worried about putting in your fantasy lineup for week three?
88:10And I feel like we got almost every running back bench.
88:13We've got so many messages back. I really appreciate those questions.
88:16The first one here, Josh at shadow picks HQ worried about Monty.
88:20The Texans O-line is something else. Traffic cones can block better shots fired there against the Texans offensive line.
88:25David Montgomery. How are you feeling about David Montgomery being in people's lineups this week, Josh?
88:30So this is one of those where week one, he scores three touchdowns.
88:33And to me, it was a bit of a deodorant that when you go back and actually watch the Texans tape, it did not look great.
88:41Like they weren't moving people. The yards for carry were not awesome.
88:44The yards for contact were not great either. And then that bore itself out in week two against Dexter Lawrence and company
88:51and that Bengals defense where he was just stuffed repeatedly at the line of scrimmage.
88:55And by the way, he is still splitting snaps about 55, 45% with what he marks.
88:59Now he gets the Indianapolis Colts this week. Dave Montgomery still owns 85% of the red zone carries for the Houston Texans.
89:06And also the Colts are allowing 5.3 rushing yards per attempt, the second worst in the NFL.
89:11So while Boone, I have full season concerns about what this Houston Texans offensive line is at this moment.
89:16I don't think that's going to play itself out here in week three.
89:20And I think Dave Montgomery is a solid start in your flex lineups.
89:23I agree. And I think you can't judge based on the Bengals last week, like Dexter Lawrence.
89:28They've completely changed that defense from what it was last year when it was like the defense we were targeting with fantasy running backs.
89:35That's not the case anymore. I think that has become a very tough matchup now.
89:39So he's coming off of one of his worst games of the year.
89:43I'm with you. Like this is still a 50, 50 backfield.
89:46It's like legitimately like, I think it was like 51, 49, one week and 51, 49 the next week, the other way.
89:53So both these guys are getting work, but I haven't really seen anything from Woody Marks.
89:57That's going to tell me that he's going to take on a bigger workload as we go.
90:02So Montgomery in my mind is still the play.
90:05Here's the guy, like you pointed out, that's going to get the touchdowns.
90:08And I think this is going to stay this way most weeks where he's kind of that low end RB2 kind of flex play high end RB3.
90:16And Woody Marks is just a very risky flex play.
90:19He's way down and you know, the RB3 mix.
90:21So I'm with you there and I don't know that there's much else to add there.
90:26So we will move on to the next one here, Josh at ring that wild.
90:30I think we're going to pronounce that Judkins, who we've already talked about, of course, but we can go over it quick here.
90:37Seems like Cleveland is going to need Watson. Watson, they probably mean there to throw the deep passes every game if they are going to win.
90:44So Judkins, I think we're both feeling pretty positive about him here.
90:48Josh, like we talked about earlier, right after coming off two bad matchups, but now going into this one, this is his chance to really explode.
90:55This is his chance. This is his audition to be fancy relevant all season long.
90:59Uh, I meant to say this about Judkins earlier going back and watching his rookie stuff.
91:04I thought he was the best rookie running back in the NFL as a ball carrier.
91:09And, you know, then he has the, the rough injury and that can always sap some of your explosiveness and just some
91:15of your like game to game skills. Um, I'm not sure if I've seen that yet because he hasn't really got an opportunity to showcase any of that.
91:23So, so maybe we get our real answer here in week three, Carolina, the Steelers, the jets, he's got the Titans coming
91:29up a little over a month from now. Like there there's games.
91:33This is the time to do it. You know, this is the time.
91:36Yeah. There's a runway now where he's had these two games and going back to something we talked about on an episode
91:43this summer, Josh, we did some bold predictions. And just to give people an idea of how strongly I felt about Judkins
91:49coming off the rookie season, and it ties into what you just said about the talent and how good he did look when he was healthy last year.
91:57One of my bold predictions was that Judkins, even in this Browns offense was going to be a top 15 fantasy back.
92:03And I still think that's possible, but it all comes down to this game.
92:07There was a lot of pressure for that bold prediction on this game right here.
92:11And I'm feeling confident. I think I have them right now, low end RB two range.
92:16So I think we're going to see a usable week out of him.
92:20I would play him in your lineup in this one at Julian underscore Wambolt.
92:24What are your thoughts on Scadaboo with dart done for the year?
92:27I'm not sure what to think since the offense will be worse off.
92:31Wondering if you should try and trade him before he digs himself a hole he can't climb out of.
92:36Also, my condolences, Boone, we're thinking about you. Well, that's really nice.
92:40I didn't read this one in advance. I didn't know there was going to be condolences in there, but thank you.
92:46My father-in-law passed away the first weekend of the NFL season.
92:49That's why I wasn't on shows last week. So thank you.
92:52I got a ton of nice messages from people out there, from people that we work with.
92:57And Josh, thank you to you. I know you stepped up and did some shows without me during that stretch.
93:03So everybody was very supportive and very nice. Thank you to everyone for that.
93:07But we're back to my boy Scadaboo here, who we've talked about already on the show.
93:11Any other thoughts you want to add on him here, Josh?
93:14Are you willing to play him this week despite all the changes?
93:18So just to lean into this question, question for you.
93:21Rest of season, would you rather have, and they're back-to-back at running back 21-22 in points per game.
93:26Would you rather have Cam Scadaboo or Basial Tootin rest of season?
93:29I'm still going with Scadaboo. I'm still going with Scadaboo.
93:32We haven't seen Basial Tootin have any role really in the receiving game.
93:36He's not putting up. And could it develop? Could he eventually get that?
93:39Yes. Is he in an offense that we have a lot more faith in?
93:43Yes. Do I think it's going to continue to be kind of a committee there?
93:48Because both of these backfields have been a committee, but at least we've seen signs that Scadaboo is getting more work in the receiving game last week.
93:55And like I said, I think they might just have to build the offense around now him and neighbors for however long neighbors is healthy.
94:02So Scadaboo gets a slight edge. You feel like it's Tootin, I'm guessing, based on the fact that you asked that question?
94:09No. I mean, the Tootin stuff is, I mean, he looks awesome.
94:12And I think he's, you know, stacking weeks, which is really important in this backfield that included Chris Rodriguez.
94:18My concern with them is this Jaguars offensive line, like against good defenses can look good, but against average and especially bad
94:24ones, I think can get pushed and pressed in the backfield and all that type of stuff.
94:29So I would still go Scadaboo. Okay. One more for you in this one.
94:33Would you either have Cam Scadaboo or Jeremiah Love rest of season?
94:36Because Jeremiah Love was drafted a couple rounds ahead of Scadaboo.
94:39Yeah. I'm going Jeremiah Love all the way. And again, not to keep referencing the running back ranking show that we did
94:46yesterday, but I talked about guys that we identified as by Lowe's.
94:49Jeremiah Love was one of those guys, another rookie who dealt with an injury coming into the season, you know, getting into
94:55kind of more of a tandem there early in the year with Algier.
94:59I only expect that he will get more work the further he gets removed from that injury.
95:04And we've just seen a history of running backs that are taken that high finish very well in their fantasy seasons as a rookie.
95:11So yeah, I'm taking him all the way here.
95:13It would be a little more interesting if Dart was still out there.
95:17I think that would be make it a little bit closer, but no, it's Jeremiah Love in my mind.
95:22Okay. Got it. All right. We will move on to the next one here at Kara M.
95:27Here's hopefully I pronounced that anywhere near close to right.
95:30ETH. ETN, ETN, which is HN now. I can't understand why they would pay him big bucks only to put him in a three-way committee.
95:37I don't think anyone can understand that one, Josh.
95:40How do you feel about him potentially being in your lineup?
95:43We've seen him limited the first day of practice.
95:46I saw before we got onto the show that he is practicing today.
95:49I haven't seen what his designation is. We don't know if he's going to play this week or not.
95:55If he is out there, would you be willing to play him after week one being in a three-man committee and then
96:01week two being in a different three-man committee? Heck no.
96:04I mean, absolutely not. You have to now be at this point with Travis Achan where he runs and leads us backfield
96:10and everything and then understand to yourself, okay, I couldn't have predicted that based on the first two weeks and now I can start him the next week.
96:18Look, I went back and watched that game last week and there were three plays of pony personnel where he and Alvin
96:24Kamara were on the field at the same time.
96:27They used Travis Achan as a decoy play action or going the opposite direction and then threw the ball to Alvin Kamara to the opposite side.
96:34And then there were two pitches to Achan in the backfield that he kind of muffed and fumbled both.
96:40And so both went for like five to seven yard losses and like no team wants to go from first and 10 to second and 17.
96:47So to be honest, he hasn't done anything to earn more opportunities than what we saw in week one and week two.
96:54So so at all. So, yeah, I mean, this contract makes zero sense.
96:57And when you compare it to like the Ken Walker contract and the money being very, very similar and the impact of
97:04the two players, it's been a disastrous move so far, even if the Saints have been impressive offensively.
97:09Seeing him limited in practice to start the week is the only thing that's like, okay, has he been dealing with an injury that we don't know about?
97:17Did he pick something up along the way? Is that the reason like CJ Donaldson being a part of this three man committee is shocking to me?
97:24And who knows this week? It could be a whole different trio, right?
97:28It could be him, Kamara, and then Kendra Miller isn't a healthy scratch in the CJ Donaldson's on the sidelines.
97:34And we continue again with another three man committee.
97:36So I would try to avoid it at all costs.
97:39I have him down like around RB 30 right now.
97:42I could see myself moving him down even further, even if we get word that he's going to be healthy here.
97:48Josh, we've got a few more. We can keep moving through here.
97:52Another one we can go through quick at D Clark 139.
97:55Jadarian Price, we've talked about. I have Emmanuel Wilson or Chris Rodriguez.
97:58I know pretty bleak. Jadarian Price, we went over how I'm approaching these guys.
98:02He's more of that high end RB3, but we're going to have to monitor the injury.
98:07If we're picking between Wilson and Rodriguez, it's definitely Wilson in my mind because of Price's situation, because they are favored so big in that game.
98:14Chris Rodriguez really hasn't done much at all. We know neither of these guys are going to do much in the receiving game.
98:21But yeah, he's certainly somebody that you can drop.
98:23And he was on my drop list that I have at the bottom of my waiver wire article on Monday as well.
98:30Anything to add there, Josh? I would rank it.
98:32Yeah, I would rank it Jadarian Price than Emmanuel Wilson.
98:35Agreed. But, you know, I think this is an environment where you could not play both.
98:40But like if you have one of these backs on your team, then both are flex options because they're, you know, 24 points projected here.
98:47Favorites by seven and a half. And like that environment to me means, you know, carries.
98:51And then maybe Emmanuel Wilson gets a short yardage touchdown and Jadarian Price gets a bucket of yards for you.
98:57And maybe he takes a long touchdown to the house.
99:00But I would still rank it slightly ahead Jadarian Price over Emmanuel Wilson.
99:04But it wouldn't shock me at all if we, you know, in the Sunday night recap, if we have Emmanuel Wilson outscoring JP this week.
99:11We got one here about tonight's game and I will be doing the Thursday night recap show with Hayden later this evening when that game concludes.
99:18At Dan wins, Caleb Johnson seems intriguing this week.
99:21What if no Warren slash Dowdle is third RB worth starting?
99:24Josh, your thoughts there trying to figure out what's going on in that question.
99:28I think Jalen Warren is going to play. So I would play Jalen Warren ahead of Caleb Johnson.
99:33However, just on the Caleb point, he should be probably rostered in every league out there.
99:38Again, all the conversations that we're having from like running back 26 and beyond is a nightmare at this point.
99:43And I think Caleb Johnson snaps are going to exponentially increase this week.
99:47And he's still going to be a zero in the passing game.
99:50But as a runner, he actually has some juice compared to Marshawn Lynch, who fumbled last week and didn't see another snap.
99:57So, Boone, a speculative ad of Caleb Johnson and then we'll see what happens against the Falcons defense would be a really
100:03smart play for everyone watching right now. I absolutely agree.
100:06I think Caleb Johnson up into potentially like the RB3 range for me this week.
100:10And obviously, if you're listening on Friday to the show or if you're listening over the weekend, yes, you know exactly how this went.
100:17You know, if Caleb Johnson was a hero in the Thursday night game or if we're still just super frustrated with that
100:23backfield and haven't gotten much from it. I know I am obviously very frustrated because I took Marshawn Lloyd in a few
100:30spots and that is not going well for me so far here.
100:33Josh, at Marty Zavica, what to do with the Pats running back?
100:36Start both, start neither, meh. Man, I would say in this matchup, it's a start neither.
100:41What about you? Yeah, I'm trying my best to start neither of these guys.
100:45I have them ranked way down, sort of like mid-range RB3.
100:48We saw last week, like Trayvon Henderson, if there is a hole for him, he can hit it.
100:53He can make that big play. Will there be many of those against the Jags defense?
100:58I highly doubt it. These guys are great against the run.
101:01This offense too, like we talk about the Buccaneers offense kind of being discombobulated.
101:05Like the Patriots offense just has not had a lot to hang their hat on so far this year.
101:10They don't look like the same smooth operating system that they were last year.
101:14A little bit worried about them at the moment.
101:17And this is not the matchup, I think, to start these backs against them.
101:21And also there's a possibility with Romandre, we see another fumble.
101:24And man, the leash could be even shorter this week.
101:27He could go right to the bench. So I would not feel comfortable putting him out there.
101:32Henderson is just sort of like this boomer bus play.
101:35You hope that he can hit one big, whether it's a big run like he had last week, whether it's a pass,
101:41which we've seen him do as a receiver, making big plays down the field.
101:45But again, against the Jags, those plays just end up being very few and far between.
101:50Yep, 100%. I mean, the amount of snaps that Hindo got over Romandre last week, like Mike Vrabel is one of these
101:56coaches that punishes you when you fumble versus, let's say Sean McVay.
101:59As soon as Kyron Williams fumbled last week on Monday Night Football, he was in the next series and was continuing to be there at their 1A.
102:07So it's always fascinating to me to see how these teams play the probabilities of a second fumble from these players versus
102:13the ones that, you know, just go ahead and sit them because they think it's going to be, you know, a punishment or an insult.
102:20Whereas obviously Romandre doesn't want to fumble. And in fact, he probably would fumble less the next time he was out there for ball security reasons.
102:28So anyways, I just want to get it off my chest.
102:31All right, we're digging deep into the mailbag. This is the last one here, Josh, at Combustible LMN.
102:36I'm thinking real hard about flexing one of the Broncos running backs over Marv.
102:40Marvin Herfman Jr., obviously. Joko seems legit, but will Dobbins take back his role?
102:44Who knows? Well, first of all, yes, you want to play anybody that you can over Marv.
102:49Marv is not somebody that you want in your fantasy lineup, and you probably don't want him even on your roster at the moment.
102:56But I referred to this yesterday, this Broncos backfield situation as like a choose your own adventure, because we really don't know
103:02how this is going to work out. Dobbins went from being a guy that we thought had a hamstring injury last week
103:08to somebody that they're saying it's just cramps, and he's going to be fine to play in this game.
103:14Harvey missed last week with a hamstring injury. He's back at practice.
103:17We don't know if he's going to play in this game.
103:20And then Coleman, who was a player I talked about in the waiver wire article, I was advising everyone to pick him up.
103:27I still think that's the right play because I think eventually he's going to have a big role in this backfield, but
103:33he picked up an ankle injury and he's not practicing.
103:36So we have no idea how this is going to play out for the week.
103:40And I don't even feel that confident if it is Dobbins getting the start because he hasn't really done much through two games here, Josh.
103:47Yeah, so we have a slightly different view on this.
103:50I'm nervous that none of these Broncos running backs are ever going to matter unless it gets siloed into only one of them playing.
103:57Because that's what worked for RJ Harvey last year, right?
104:00In that six, seven, eight game stretch that he had.
104:03It's why he was so pivotal for us because he got the work between the 20s.
104:07Then he also got the passing down work. And then most importantly, he got the cool plays in the red zone.
104:13But like, let's say RJ Harvey in this hamstring, whatever it is, kind of lingers.
104:18Well, then you have JK Dobbins still getting the stuff between the 20s.
104:21Then Jonah Coleman getting some passing down work along with Tyler Bidet.
104:25And then we don't know who gets the red zone stuff, right?
104:28And then if it's Jonah Coleman and RJ Harvey, then Harvey gets the passing down work.
104:33He also still gets the red zone play scripted for him.
104:36And then Jonah Coleman just gets the work kind of between the 20s.
104:40So, again, to me, it kind of has to only be one of these running backs for it to really matter in the end.
104:47To the person who answered this question, if your conundrum is between the Broncos running backs and Marvin Harrison Jr., you might just want to stimulate to 2027.
104:55I apologize. I love it. I mean, what you described there with all the different possibilities, that's exactly, I feel like, what I said.
105:01It's a choose-your-own-adventure. We will follow it as the week goes along.
105:05We'll figure out which back is going to get the start.
105:08It is probably going to be Dobbins. And, yes, I would play him over Marv.
105:12And, hopefully, you can maybe find something on the waiver wire.
105:15Even one of those receivers, like one of those deeper receivers that just has a shot at a big play in a
105:22big game, you might want to think about playing them instead.
105:25All right. That is it for the mailbag. Tons of great questions.
105:28Thank you for those. And, remember, if you have a lineup dilemma, a trade debate, or a league controversy, the Fantasy Hotline is open all season long.
105:36So, send us your toughest questions. And, we might just feature them on an upcoming episode.
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105:52This was a great show, Josh. Always bringing the knowledge.
105:55It's been really fun being on a bunch of shows with you this week.
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106:44But, until then, we are out.