0:00Football Show. My name is Danny Heifetz and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlbeck and today we're going over training
0:06camp risers, training camp fallers, and training camp entries because at the beginning it was just the 49ers getting hurt but Deacon
0:13now the other 31 teams are also getting hurt.
0:16It is an absolute bloodbath out there guys. Just bath of blood.
0:19Get me to September. Please. Yeah. Yeah. Greg your beloved Luther Burden all your favorite players get hurt every year.
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1:03Craig, your favorite player every year gets hurt in August and I don't know why, but Luther Burden hurt his groin and
1:09I feel like your groin is also injured, Craig.
1:12I have sympathy pain with Luther Burden. There's a kick to the groin, yeah.
1:16Yeah, this is legitimately devastating. Look, people thought it could have been a lot worse.
1:21People were fearing ligaments torn out for half the year, out for the whole season.
1:25It's a groin strain. It appears as though he's going to miss basically the rest of training camp and he'll be healthy
1:32in about a month, which is right around when the season starts.
1:35It's a mess. It's a mess. The Luther Burden rocket ship was almost at the moon and I was like convinced this
1:42guy was the next to Monroe St. Brown or better, to be honest.
1:45And look, I think this docks him a little bit.
1:48This obviously stinks. Like him not being able to get an entire month of training camp with the team is a problem.
1:55You know, the online, the Twitter doctors are saying fear of re-injury based on this strain, not terrible.
2:00He was also walking around today, today, Monday at practice without a limp.
2:04The people were saying that was a great sign this early on.
2:08So I'm holding out hope. But yeah, this is not great.
2:11I don't like this at all, just because the groin injury feels like one that you're just so liable to re-injure as
2:17you go through the year, especially late in the year when it's colder and you're trying to cut and change direction and
2:24do types of things that receivers really need to do.
2:27Like he's walking around fine. That's great. But when he when he's cutting on like a soft grass and it really like
2:33I don't know, that just really worries me. You don't love to see injuries like this in preseason, especially when he was just going so well.
2:41It's been a it's been a really messy camp.
2:44Everyone's getting banged up. You know, this is a good time to talk about when you should do your draft.
2:50I should say briefly before we get to the rest of the injuries, like as late as possible.
2:55Yes, literally like the week of the season, I would do your draft like like September 6, 7, 8, 9th.
3:01Like that range is it feels weird to do it right before the season.
3:05You get antsy. I used to do drafts in like mid-August back in the day in high school and stuff like that.
3:11And I remember we did a draft and a guy in my league took Jamal Charles and the next day Jamal Charles tore his ACL.
3:19And it's like you just don't want you don't want that.
3:22So you need to be drafting the Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday before the season starts.
3:26So you don't have to deal with shit like this.
3:29So. I guess you're taking it well. It could be worse.
3:32It could be worse. He might play in week one.
3:35You're acting like Luther Burden's dead. He might play in week one.
3:39He might practice Wednesday before the season. So how much are we moving him down then?
3:44If you seem quite upset. Well, I have him ridiculously high.
3:47So I'll probably have to lower him to a level closer to the two of you.
3:52I'm not docking him a whole lot. I might dock him half a round.
3:56Something like that. Nothing crazy. So where are the players that you're taking Luther Burden around?
4:00Right now I have Luther Burden going around like Mike Evans, Devontae Adams.
4:04Range. Like a fourth round player. Yes. Like a fourth round player.
4:08Maybe he becomes a fifth round player and we'll see how he progresses as we get closer to the season.
4:14For me. I feel like you can't push him down too.
4:17You can't push him down too far because then once you push him down like two rounds, then you're hitting a group
4:23of receivers that are just the range of scenarios with these guys are so, so wide.
4:28I mean, we're talking about like Jordan Tyson, Carnell Tate, two rookies, DK Metcalf, Parker Washington.
4:33So I think it's, I think it is fair to like move him down with maybe one round just based on the fear of him having a setback.
4:41But he, I mean, if he is set to probably start the season and play, then we'll, we'll be okay.
4:47This just sucks. This stuff matters. Like I think if he plays week one, if this isn't going to limit the amount
4:54of snaps he plays, I don't think if he's healthy, but I just think the connection and being there in this complicated
5:00Ben Johnson offense for a month, like not being there matters.
5:03And I, I, I do think there's a chance that it could limit the way he starts the season from a production standpoint.
5:10Um, but if he's healthy, it's like, you know, you're, you're, if it's August 25th and you're heading into your draft and
5:17Luther burden is back at practice and healthy, like you're, you're drafting him.
5:20You're not really changing your opinions on him. It just, it's just kind of a bummer from a development standpoint.
5:26Hyphens, are you, are you moving Roma Dunsay and more, maybe more importantly, Colston Loveland up because of this, or do you
5:33just kind of leave them and see how this all goes?
5:36I don't know if there's room for Colson Loveland to go up.
5:40I feel like Colson Loveland's already as high. He's going around like before Lamar Jackson.
5:44I don't know how much higher Colson Loveland can go.
5:47I think the, my question with the bears is while we're talking about it, bears injuries.
5:52So the safety Kobe Bryant is also out. So they signed him from your Seahawks DK and he was essential to the
5:58Seahawks defense in the Superbowl win and then signed for three years and 40 million in Chicago.
6:03And now Kobe Bryant's out eight to 10 weeks and the bears had like one healthy safety left who had played an NFL staff.
6:10So they had to go inside Xavier Woods, who's I think 31 years old.
6:14And I bring that up because 31, 31 and unsigned on August 8th.
6:18And the NFL is pretty bad. And so 31 and unsigned.
6:22So think about that. You know what? Like the bear should play me at safety.
6:26I kind of actually do. I dare I enforce her.
6:29More like dangerous. He's like Jamal Adams. I just sit there and tell everyone what to do.
6:34I don't know if I could make it as a safety.
6:37Heifetz is the new Terry Tate office linebacker. They should redo that with Heifetz.
6:41I heard Larry Fitzgerald talking about Cam Chancellor. I don't know if this is an old clip or a new one, but I watched a video of it.
6:50I was like, man, that makes me miss Cam Chancellor so much because he's just that's Heifetz lurking over the middle, just trying to take somebody's head off.
6:58There's no easy catches over the middle of the field.
7:01That's all Heifetz right there. But your point's well taken, Heifetz.
7:04Are you basically saying that the Bears are a sneaky candidate to be the shootout team of the year?
7:10Yes. I think that we've kind of we all know the Bengals and the Cowboys are these like high octane offenses with terrible defenses.
7:17And I'm like, well, the Bears secondary is supposed to be the strength of the team.
7:22And now if Kobe Bryant's out, but I mean, more than two, I mean, it sounds like he might be out for
7:28the first half of the season, maybe talking about they have rookie Dylan Tienemann, who we like him out of Oregon.
7:34He's a rookie safety and safety is a really complicated position in the NFL nowadays.
7:39And then, you know, everyone's coming back from injury.
7:41Kyler Gordon's delayed from a calf strain. And it's like, that's the strength of the team.
7:46I think the Bears have one of the worst four front sevens in the NFL.
7:50They don't have a great pass rush. I don't think they have a great interior and the linebacking.
7:56It's not ideal. So I don't know. I look at this Bears defense and I'm like, I don't know.
8:01I feel like all the other teams in the NFC North are going to be able to move the ball on the Bears.
8:08And I'm wondering if they're a team that wants to run, but they're actually going to end up throwing quite a bit.
8:15And there's a world after all this debate about Luther Burden and Loveland and Roma Dunsley.
8:19I wonder if the Bears throw so much that all of them end up being good picks.
8:24I was going to say a lot of this, a lot of the preseason narrative so far has been you either love
8:31Burden or you love Odunze and you can't love both.
8:34You know what I mean? Like, how dare you?
8:37You could never love both of these guys. What if both of them are really good this year?
8:42And you could love land. Colson loved land. I'm really sorry about that.
8:46I'll never do that again. I wish I could tackle you right now.
8:50I'll never do that again. But I had the anchorman, I love lamp in my head for I love land.
8:55And I had to go for it. You know what's funny?
8:59The Bears are actually quite thin at receiver. Like once you get past Burden and Dunsley, it's like they have a rookie, Zavian Thomas.
9:06You have like Khalif, Raymond, Scotty Miller. If Roma Dunsley's got a foot issue that he's not dealing with every day and
9:12Luther Burden with his groin, it is a little bit thin.
9:16I mean, if one of those guys goes down.
9:18Jaday Walker is going to be scoring huge points.
9:21The line between there's a couple of guys like, oh, yeah, they've returned punts like Scotty Miller and Khalif Raymond.
9:27And then it is off a cliff into people that are like NPCs.
9:31I learned today that Scotty Miller is on the Bears now.
9:34Oh, nice. I unfortunately look. I'm all in on the Bears.
9:37Oh, nice. But I don't know why, but for some reason, this training camp, more than in past years, there are certain
9:44guys that are receiving a lot of hype that I'm just believing.
9:47And I don't know. Like, I believe all of the Luther Burden stuff wholeheartedly this year.
9:52There's other guys that we'll get into that I kind of believe.
9:55But like even the Colston Loveland hype, it's I know you balk a little bit about how high he's going in drafts.
10:02But like, I kind of just believe Colston Loveland is going to be a huge part of this offense.
10:07That's going to be really good. And it's going to work out.
10:11I do believe that the that these three guys, Adunze Burden and Loveland are all kind of going to work out on the Bears.
10:18I want to love Colston Loveland. I just balk a little when it's like, OK, if you use your third pick on
10:25him and that starts to scare me a little because suddenly just like Shrek, don't look down.
10:30Like there's a long lot away from the drop and not that much higher he can go when you're talking about a third round pick.
10:37But overall, yeah, the Bears offense, Colston Loveland could be the leading receiver on the team.
10:42You know what I mean? Like Colston Loveland, I believe all the ceiling and everything.
10:46I like the Bears. That's the thing. I hate the idea that I become anti.
10:51I love the Bears. My concern is just. Well, no, I do wonder if the defense is going to be so bad
10:57that at the volume, we'll just make up for everything.
11:00The Bears. I don't know. DK, what do you what do you what do you make of everything?
11:05Because I do think that the other thing that's not being talked about enough is that the Pope was named from Chicago
11:12and then the Bears went on the most miraculous run you've ever seen.
11:16And yeah, will that continue? That's not absolutely not being talked about enough.
11:20I don't know. I think it is one of those things where there's a lot of moving pieces in this offense.
11:26We don't know exactly how it's going to shake out in terms of like target rate and everything.
11:31I want to trust. I'm kind of I lean to be with more with Craig here where I just want to trust
11:38Ben Johnson and the fact that he's going to get a lot of this offense.
11:42And I think there is a strong chance that it's just concentrated between those three Luther Burden, the Roma do and say Colson Loveland.
11:49I do worry a little bit like if you remember a few years ago, Sam LaPorta had like an outstanding rookie season
11:56and then he kind of the next year fell down the higher like the latter hierarchy in terms of targets and everything.
12:02And Jameson Williams as he emerged, we've talked about how Jameson Williams and Luther Burden went to the same high school like
12:09they're somewhat similar type of players, really electric speed, get the ball in space.
12:13So first traps there is, I think of the guys I am with high fits here on the contrary that I think
12:19Colson Loveland is probably priced like very near his ceiling.
12:22There is a chance he outplays it, of course, and they're throwing out the name Travis Kelsey.
12:27I saw a report today that they think he's like their Travis Kelsey.
12:31I'm like, OK, we'll see how that goes. But but yeah, overall, I think you're right.
12:36Colson Loveland is scarily priced. I probably am most in on Roma dunes a now just because of Luther Burden's groin injury.
12:42I think, you know, I still believe in the talent with him.
12:46You're number one. Your oldest rule since I've known you is you don't like receivers with foot injuries.
12:51That's my mantra. The first thing you've ever said to me about fantasy football.
12:55Yeah, but he told me that it's fine. And I'm choosing to believe that it's fine.
13:00All right. I can't I can't figure out when these guys are going to get hurt or not.
13:05You know, Roma dunes a has a foot injury.
13:08And meanwhile, Luther Burden's tearing his groin off his bone.
13:11So am I the highest on Luther Burden now on this show?
13:14Am I now the highest person on him? You you you physically cannot be higher than I am.
13:20The question for you two is right now, if you had to draft Roma dunes a or Luther Burden, who's who you drafting first DK?
13:27Right now, I'd probably take a dunes a. I'd I'd take Burden there.
13:31We have them ranked pretty close, right? I do think the Bears are going to throw a lot this season.
13:37We we have so many ridiculous turnovers last year that if the Bears when they don't lead the NFL in turnovers and
13:43they have this like bad front seven with an injured secondary, they're just going to not be able to stop anybody.
13:50Don't forget the Bears Packers playoff game. Ben Johnson went for a fourth down.
13:54I want to say six times and everyone was like, oh, it's analytics.
13:58I'm like, it was because the defense sucked like he was factoring that in.
14:02That's I don't think they're going to be that much better this year.
14:06So I'm just saying. So for this injury, we had Luther Burden wide receiver.
14:10Twenty three, a dunes a wide receiver. Twenty six.
14:12You're saying that shouldn't change. Heifetz. No, I'm holding on that.
14:16I think. Okay. Not a ton. Hold. Yeah. Hold.
14:18He's going to play in week one. Probably the other receivers.
14:21We even mentioned Caleb Williams permafrost. We didn't mention permafrost that whole conversation.
14:25The other thing I want to mention. So the Lions have some injuries, too.
14:29So I want to start with the line center.
14:32Cade Mays broke his wrist. He's out eight to ten weeks.
14:35I think this is a big deal. I mean, the Lions were abysmal with their center play last year.
14:41It really undid the entire line season was how bad the interior offensive line was.
14:45So now they signed Cade Mays to fix their offensive line and free agency.
14:50Now he's hurt. So they're going to have to move Juice Scruggs or Ben Bart.
14:54Some guard is going to have to play center now.
14:57And I don't think anyone's concerned enough about this to be like, oh, Jameer Gibbs isn't our number one overall player anymore.
15:03However, at this point, I feel officially obligated to tell people that Jameer Gibbs, our number one ranked overall fantasy football player
15:10at running back, has kind of a bad offensive line.
15:13It's like I feel officially crazy. It's crazy how quickly these offensive lines can unravel.
15:17I mean, it was like two years ago. The Lions had an absolutely dominant offensive line and they had kind of a cascading effect where injuries guys leaving.
15:26And now they have Penny Sewell, who's one of the best offensive linemen in the NFL moving positions.
15:31He's going from right tackle to left tackle. There's so many just, you know, variables here.
15:36Blake Miller, Blake Miller, the right tackle is a rookie.
15:39So the other thing, I think there's a little concern for Jameer Gibbs.
15:42Ultimately, he's still going to get a ton of volume.
15:45I think this lowers maybe his ceiling just a little bit in terms of how many touchdowns he's going to have.
15:52To me, the real worry is the passing game, because I think Jared Goff, among all quarter, maybe the most sensitive to interior pressure of any quarterback.
16:00I think the numbers kind of bear that out, like in terms of playing his EPA pass with pressure versus not is
16:06like one of the highest deltas of any quarterback in the NFL.
16:10We've seen him. I mean, he just can't move.
16:12He can't throw off platform when he's playing in rhythm.
16:15It's it's awesome. I mean, it's like firewood. I just love can't move about a professional football player.
16:20Well, everything's relative. Yeah, he is as old school as it gets from a park and bark perspective.
16:26Jared Goff. Yeah, so that that's worrisome. That's not going to make me move on there.
16:31I was saying down in a lot or or much at all, but it does worry me a little bit.
16:36The overall output of this offense could could be dramatically.
16:39You said it lowers Gibbs's ceiling. It also lowers the floor.
16:43I mean, week six. I mean, Jameer Gibbs didn't have like some amazing end to the season last year in the Lions.
16:49I mean, dude, week 16. Jameer Gibbs had two yards, two yards rushing.
16:53And then Christmas versus the Vikings. The Vikings just blitzed the absolute crap of the Lions interior line because the center Graham Glasgow was out.
17:00They had no idea what's going on on Christmas.
17:03I think that was game was on Christmas, right?
17:06Yeah. And Christmas morning. And they just kept having Gibbs go ahead, stay in and block, dude.
17:11And they just kept rocking Gibbs and pass protection.
17:13And yeah, I'm like, I'm a little concerned, honestly.
17:16So it's OK. Here's the good news with Gibbs.
17:19He's not going to come off the field ever because his backup just got hurt.
17:23Isaiah Pacheco. So this is also weird about the Lions.
17:26So Isaiah Pacheco. So David Montgomery gets traded to Houston and Isaiah Pacheco sprains his MCL.
17:31So they're like, oh, he'll be able to play week one.
17:34But now Isaiah Pacheco is going to miss like Luther Byrd in a month of practice.
17:39Here's the weird thing. So Jameer Gibbs is our number one player.
17:42And he just signed a big contract extension. He's going to get a huge workload.
17:47But let's just say Jameer Gibbs gets hurt. And Isaiah Pacheco is hurt.
17:51The Lions don't really have a third string running back.
17:54Like at all. The Lions third string running back is Sione Vachy, who was like a safety at Utah.
17:59He has more tackles than carries in college football.
18:02And Sione Vachy played one snap at running back last year.
18:05He's a special teamer. And then every other player on the Lions at running back are like also like NPCs, people you've
18:12never heard of undrafted free agents that like are clawing to be special You don't know much about Kyle Robichaux.
18:17Kyle Robichaux. Old Robichaux. Yeah. Oh, no. Sorry. It's not Kyle.
18:21It's Kyle. Okay. Kyle. It's Kyle. There's no L in there.
18:24Jabari Small. Ironically. They have a guy named Jabari Small and Jacob Saylor.
18:28You old Saylor, you. None of these players are real.
18:31Yeah. I do think. They're going to trade for someone.
18:34Yeah. I can't tell if this is a weak beginning of fantasy drafts.
18:38I can't tell if Jameer Gibbs and Bijon Robinson are not as good as other past years were like.
18:43Or at least what you thought going into the season when it was like Saquon was the clear 101 or McCaffrey was the clear 101.
18:51Gibbs has the offensive line worries. Although Dan Campbell recently at a press conference was basically saying like, we are going to
18:57give Jameer Gibbs the ball as much as humanly possible and we are going to push him to his physical limits.
19:03They have no choice. Which is very Dan Campbell.
19:06But he was like, this guy's not coming off the field.
19:09He's going to get a million touches every single game.
19:12And we want to make him a Hall of Famer.
19:15So that's great. But the offensive lines are their own concerns there.
19:19And then you have Bijon who's like, I think the Falcons have an okay offensive line.
19:23But the quarterback play and the offensive situation there is like a little bit weird too.
19:28And then you go down the line and you have Christian McCaffrey on, you know, next to the substation in the Niners.
19:35And he's 30 years old. And it's like, there are definite risks with each of the top three running backs going in drafts.
19:41Yeah. No, it's, I mean, not that it's ever a perfect situation, but it's just weird.
19:46And again, Jameer Gibbs has the most touchdowns of any player ever through three seasons.
19:50Like there's a reason he's first. He's literally got the most touchdowns ever.
19:54But I'm mostly just fascinated from the Lions perspective.
19:57Now that Pacheco's hurt, they got to sign someone.
20:00Because again, let's say Jameer Gibbs is doing, forget he gets hurt.
20:03If Jameer Gibbs is to tie his shoes and then comes out for the practice, the running back subbing into the first
20:10team with the Lions that has to play with the starters is Jabari small.
20:14Like that's, what are you talking about? Kai Robichaux.
20:16Kai Robichaux. For a month, they have to sign somebody.
20:19I think you got to go Velcro shoes, right?
20:22You can't risk having untied shoes. That's a good point.
20:25No, there you go. That's really why Gibbs is the number one, though.
20:29It's the Falcons have another option for Bijan. Like, you know, the Lions just burned the boats.
20:34The Lions are like, there is only forward. They'll have to just pick somebody up on waivers or make a trade.
20:40I feel like this is ridiculous. Okay. Yeah. Go get like James Conner.
20:44Yeah. Honestly. Yeah. Honestly. James Conner would be perfect.
20:47It's right. Yeah. It's a perfect. He's such a David Montgomery ass player.
20:50They should get James Conner. Okay. Other injuries that happened.
20:53And so Washington, I, we, we really are in Yiddish.
20:56It's called a kind of her, but we just give jinxes out left, right, and center.
21:01I believe one of the last things we were discussing in our episode, the most last time we recorded was how Washington's offensive line was sneaky underrated.
21:09And D.K. said Laramie Tunsil is one of the best left tackles.
21:13Anyway, he tore his triceps almost immediately after we published that episode.
21:16So Laramie Tunsil is out most, if not all of this season at left tackle, which means they're good.
21:22How do you tear your triceps, by the way?
21:24That injury always happens. It's like once a year, some guy tears their triceps and he tore both.
21:30How do you do that? No, I think it's just one.
21:33I think it's one side. Hard work. Yeah, I don't think he tore both triceps.
21:37I don't think he, I think he tore, like one triceps is still, your left triceps, they kind of call you triceps, right?
21:44Right. I think it's, I think it, yes. I think it's.
21:47Oh, it's just because I see. He only tore one side.
21:51Because he's having triceps surgery, but that's just on one arm.
21:54I've never thought about that. Your left arm, it's not really a tricep.
21:58It's triceps, right? Is it a bicep? I don't know.
22:01Is it biceps or bicep? For whatever reason, I feel like people call it a bicep.
22:05Yeah. But triceps, I feel like now I'm thinking.
22:08It's plural for some reason. I think triceps for, the singular of triceps is triceps.
22:13I love English. What about bicep? Let me check.
22:15I'm guessing it's the same. Just add one. Hilarious if it wasn't.
22:19Yeah. The singular form is biceps. Oh, so. I think it's because the biceps, because there's two.
22:24So it's like even the one you're referring to two.
22:27So really, there's no scenario in which we should say, like, flex your bicep.
22:31That's not, you can't say that. Not correctly. Okay.
22:33Well, actually, I guess we don't know how many of the seps Laramie Tunsil tore.
22:38He could have tore one of the three triceps.
22:41He's just walking around with, like, both his arms in full body cast or full cast or whatever.
22:46Immobile. Yeah, he's not going to play. This is not great.
22:49So, yeah, they Brandon Coleman, who actually did start his rookie year at left tackle in 2024.
22:54Good enough. They did make the NFC championship game, but bad enough that they didn't immediately replace them with Laramie Tunsil.
23:00So, yeah, all that stuff we were saying one episode ago about how much we were excited for Jim Daniels and Terry McLaurin in the running game.
23:08DK, how's that feeling now? Less good. I feel like when you have an offensive line like Washington where there's kind of,
23:15like, a bunch of new pieces to it or at least some moving parts to it, having just a foundational piece at left tackle is so gigantic.
23:23I mean, think about the difference between over the years what we've seen with Trent Williams on the 49ers offensive line.
23:29How much their offense as a whole suffers when Trent Williams goes out.
23:33Where did he come from? I forget. Washington. Right.
23:36Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a unique thing.
23:38But, yeah. The most, yes, extremely unique. He had a tumor on his head that Washington made a playthrough.
23:44True. Um, but I do think, yeah, having a top tier left tackle go out is going to make a big difference with your offensive line.
23:51I don't care, like, what offense line you are.
23:54It does make a big difference. It looks like the reports are basically that he's going to be out to the playoffs.
24:01If Washington makes the playoffs, he could be back.
24:03Brutal. He might miss the entire regular season. We have Jaden Daniels fourth overall.
24:07Or, sorry, fourth as our quarterback in the quarterback rankings.
24:10Does this make you guys want to lower him?
24:13A little bit, yeah. I will say, from a fantasy-only point of view, maybe it means he scrambles more.
24:19Which, if you were looking for a silver. How do we make money off this?
24:23Yeah, it's like, well, he'll be under duress more, so he'll have to run more, which is a positive.
24:29His body will be in a constant state of flux.
24:32I don't think this, I think, maybe he drops down, maybe he slips below Burrow or Herbert or however you feel about that.
24:38I don't think he changes tiers, I guess I would say.
24:42Yeah, I agree with that. It's funny, because I know we keep saying wait on quarterback this year, and I want to.
24:48And then I see, like, Jaden Daniels going around, like, Roma Dunsday.
24:52And I'm like, come on. Or Jaden Daniels around.
24:54I don't know. It's like, are you really? I mean, Garrett Wilson.
24:58Are you going to take Garrett Wilson over Jaden Daniels?
25:01Garrett Wilson is the perfect example for that exercise, because no matter who you say other than Garrett Wilson, I'm going to take that guy, usually.
25:09How low can we go? Garrett Wilson or Tucker Craft?
25:11Tucker Craft. Ooh, Tucker Craft was kind of George Kittle-esque last year.
25:15Back in practice now. Are we actually moving anyone down, or we're just nervous?
25:19Same tier. I might move him below guys like Burrow and Herbert, maybe.
25:23What about Diggs and Terry McLaurin? Diggs we ended up putting actually kind of where Mekhi Lemon was, and I think this is a way better pick.
25:31Look at what happened in L.A. last year. Like, Herbert's tackles went down, albeit it was both.
25:36But the Chargers and Herbert was significantly worse, both in real life and in fantasy football, without their top tackles.
25:42So, we're kind of joking about this. But, I mean, I think the fact that Jaden's really mobile to obviously, like, kind
25:48of protect himself against some of the liability that losing your left tackle has.
25:53But, I don't know. It can't go too understated how important it is when your left tackle goes down.
25:58Yeah. Yeah. And that's the same reason I brought the Lions in the center.
26:02Now we're half kidding. But I'm like, well, the last time the Lions lost their center, they scored 10 points in a game.
26:09Yeah. And they looked pathetic the entire time. I, yeah, I am concerned by it.
26:14It makes me feel a little better that Brandon Coleman's played, and he's not just some, like, you know, random backup going in.
26:20What the Chargers had was a mess, yeah. But, no, it's not great.
26:24Because think about how much time there is now for Brandon Coleman to get hurt.
26:29God. Yeah. True. Other – I think we'll dock everyone a little bit.
26:32But the other one I want – a couple other injuries that happened right now, we have no details on whatsoever.
26:39But, DK, you texted me. We started – right before we started recording, you said both Christian McCaffrey and J.K.
26:45for the Niners. J.K. Dobbins for the Broncos both got hurt.
26:48Dobbins gets hurt all the time. And then McCaffrey, did he get fed to the substation?
26:52Or what happened? He's sitting out practice Monday due to tightness.
26:56Tightness. Tightness, we don't know where? No specific tightness, just tightness.
26:59Just general tightness. Tightness, yes. That's fine. You know what?
27:02It's Christian. He should barely be practicing anyway. The less he practices, honestly, the better.
27:06I agree. Especially over that goddamn substation, which looms larger every single day.
27:10Yeah, can they go somewhere cool? The Cowboys go to, like, Oxnard, California and practice on the beach.
27:16The Chargers are going to get the fuck out of the substation.
27:19Craig, they are looking at moving their practice facility.
27:22Did I tell you guys that Carolina's practice facility is also by a substation?
27:26Carolina's practicing right across the street from the substation.
27:29Wait, are you serious? Yeah. I've been meaning to tell you guys this for a week.
27:33I went on Google Maps. I'm convinced. Did a lot of work.
27:37The Panthers are across the street from the substation.
27:39And I don't think it says Giants as the Niners won, but the Panthers are, like, the other most injured team.
27:46Like, they lost Nick Scorton, who's, like, basically their second best pass rusher to an ACL immediately.
27:51Chris Brazell, the third-run receiver towards ACL. They've had some other injuries.
27:54But it's probably mostly a bit. But it is – I did do the Google Street View investigation, and they are directly across from the substation.
28:02We should – one day on the show, we should do, like, stupid conspiracy theories you kind of secretly believe.
28:08We should – because – Well, I feel like everybody's got one.
28:11I'm not a conspiracy theory person, but I also know that if you picked 20, like, one of them's true of the top 20.
28:18You know what I mean? And, like, I – again, I don't think my microwave does anything to me, but I don't,
28:25like, standing in front of it when it's on.
28:28Yeah, yeah. I just don't – I feel weird, and I'm sure that I'm wrong about that, but I – I've seen what happens to stuff in there.
28:36You know? You can see it through the window.
28:39Is this window protecting me from that? Would you hit the button?
28:42Do you, like, try to get out of the way?
28:45The door – it's not like the door seals particularly tightly.
28:48I don't hang out right next to the microwave when it's ready.
28:52No. I feel weird. Like, in my kitchen, I don't want to – if I'm doing something – like, on the stove
28:58in particular, like, I don't want to be right in front of it.
29:02Craig's wearing, like, one of those lead aprons that you'd use when you go get x-rays.
29:07X-ray aprons? Yeah. I mean, just the fact that when you're talking about microwaving something, you say nuke it is, like, you know, a little scary.
29:15There's some red flags. There's some red flags there.
29:17Yeah, just nuke your spaghetti. It's like, Jesus Christ.
29:20I don't know if my balls should be standing close to this.
29:23Imagine all these players in the substation. They're worried about their balls.
29:27I will say it's – I wanted to make fun of everyone at first for believing this, but they actually – the
29:33Niners will have to move the practice facility because at this point, whether or not it's true, it'll never be debunked to the players.
29:41The players are going to get hurt there again and think that it was normal.
29:45There's just something so funny about, like, the owners who are going to have to spend however much money to do this.
29:51Like, it is kind of just a PR move.
29:54It's like, hey, it's probably not a thing, but, like, everyone thinks it's a thing, so you got to just build a new practice facility.
30:02That way, they should do something like that that covers up the substation because it's just the ugliest thing I've ever seen in my life.
30:09It's like – like, if your kid keeps complaining that there's monsters in the closet, even if there aren't, at a certain
30:15point, you're going to have to address the closet situation.
30:18Like, clean it out or something. But, yeah, we'll have to sacrifice something.
30:22Okay, so McCaffrey's tightness. Do we know what J.K.
30:25Dobbins' injury is for Broncos? I get it. I've been saying this.
30:28I think Jonah Coleman is, like, the single best value to draft position there is in fantasy right now because Jonah Coleman,
30:35the rookie out of Washington, is not being drafted.
30:38I just think he will be the player who replaces J.K.
30:41Dobbins, and it's not R.J. Harvey. I think R.J.
30:43Harvey is Darren Sproles, and I think Jonah Coleman will be the starting running back for the Broncos.
30:49And I don't know what happened to Dobbins today, but he's never played more than 13 games.
30:54Peyton said soft tissue injury, so it's not a structural thing.
30:57But, again, you don't love to see injuries at this point in the preseason.
31:01Again, Dobbins, again, I actually, J.K. Dobbins is a sneaky candidate for if we did the, oh, if he never got hurt,
31:08how good he could have been all-stars. Like, Dobbins is a sneaky great candidate because he had a terrible injury.
31:14He is an amazing, amazing college running back. He was probably going to have an amazing NFL career.
31:19So I hate to be mean about it, but it's like, Dobbins, yeah, he started one game in 2020, but he played 15.
31:26But since COVID, he literally hasn't played more than 13 games.
31:29Like, Jonah Coleman will be on the field this year, and he's the mix of, he has the size for goal and
31:35stuff, and he has the ability to block and catch.
31:38And it's like, he could get a, when you can get goal line touchdown carries and also third down dump offs in
31:45a Sean Payton offense, I don't know. And he's not being drafted.
31:48I just think it's a mistake. So. What do you make of the R.J.
31:53Harvey thing? We haven't talked about him hardly at all.
31:56I think he's Darren Sproles. I think he's the most overrated player in fantasy.
32:00He's just going to be in a rotation. Yeah.
32:02I mean, if you look at every Sean Payton offense, I think since he's ever been a play caller, there's no running
32:09back who's gotten over, I think, 230 or 240 carries.
32:12Like, it's just, no one gets featured as the lead guy.
32:15So you can hope and pray that R.J. Harvey turns into, like, Alvin Kamara or something, but no one's going to be getting 280 carries in the offense.
32:23That's not how Sean Payton operates. And none of the guys on the team are capable of that, I feel like.
32:29I'd rather have Coleman with the last pick of a draft or Adam Off-Wavers than R.J.
32:34Harvey. I think to that point, Craig, I just don't think R.J.
32:38Harvey is going to have his huge role, but he's going to be drafted near, you know.
32:43Yeah, we have R.J. Harvey around 100th. I mean, the upside for Harvey is, like, if he becomes, like, whatever, he splits
32:49carries on first and second down and is the third down guy and they really feature him in the passing game.
32:55That is often how you find upside in fantasy football is, like, it's usually the guys who catch passes late in drafts.
33:02Like, those are the dudes you should be targeting.
33:05And R.J. Harvey at least provides that upside. He does.
33:08It's true. And again, Bo Nix had the, I think, had the most pass attempts last year.
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33:43Scan QR code for more info. I just wanted to mention that Kirk Cousins fought Max Crosby.
33:48Who do you guys, who would you guys bet on in a fight?
33:52Kirk Cousins or Max Crosby? With the Raiders. Who do you think would win?
33:56Kirk Cousins was on Team America World Police. So I don't know.
34:00I think I still might take the guy who's way bigger, way stronger, way faster, way more reach.
34:05That guy, Max Crosby. Two more X's in his name.
34:08Way more X's in his name. What does Kirk have going for him?
34:12Kirk is, what, 38 years old and has a torn Achilles.
34:15He does have like four kids, though. Maybe some dad strength factored in there.
34:19More to live for, perhaps, from a family perspective.
34:22Maybe he'd really go for it. More to live for.
34:25You know? He's got four kids to raise. I feel like, does having more to live for make you worse or better at fighting, though?
34:32That's a great question. That's a great question. It depends if you're trapped in a corner.
34:37Well, right now, Heifetz versus DK. Heifetz doesn't have any kids.
34:40DK does. Also, Max Crosby has the child. Max Crosby has one child.
34:44Well, he's got one. Kirk's got how many? Oh, I think Kirk only has two.
34:48Eh, no kidding. I thought he had four for some reason.
34:52There's twice as much. He does feel like a four-kid guy.
34:55That's like when Phil Rivers came back and everyone realized that he extended his, like, health insurance for his family for, like, five more years.
35:02For the eight kids left, he is still under 20.
35:05Dude, that adds up, man. It's expensive. It does.
35:08No. Max Crosby's, like, minus 3,000 to win that fight.
35:11Vegas would not take bets on it. Max Crosby's going to pick him up and drop him onto his knee like fucking Bane in Batman.
35:18Just break Kirk Cousins' back. All right. We've been negative for long enough.
35:22I want to be positive about training camp. All right.
35:25Let's talk about Carson motherfucking Beck. This was an absolute sensation over the weekend.
35:29The Hall of Fame game? The Hall of Fame game was crazy.
35:33It was, the ending was insanely entertaining. This was maybe the best preseason football anyone's ever seen.
35:38Both offenses were crisp. First of all, let's talk about Carson Beck.
35:41Okay. I watched this game. Okay. Carson Beck looked actually really good.
35:45People were legitimately excited about Carson Beck. I will say there's a lot of concerns about his elbow coming back from that injury.
35:51He had kind of a noodle arm last year.
35:54His arm looked fine in this game. He connected on two deep shots, and I thought there was plenty of velocity on the ball.
36:01That was great. He looks super calm, collected. I will say, not a lot of recognizable names on the Panthers' defense playing in this game.
36:09I don't think that anyone was doing anything special in terms of disguising coverages and things of that nature.
36:14Trying to mix things up and get to the quarterback.
36:17I think the real takeaway from the Hall of Fame game, though, if you're actually looking for one, was the Cardinals offense looked different.
36:24A lot different in this game than it did last year.
36:28A lot of under center, a lot of under center play action.
36:31The Cardinals last year did not use under center play action hardly at all.
36:35They were trailing in almost every game, so that was probably a big part of it.
36:40But they were a high pass rate, high straight drop back team.
36:43And I think that's going to change a lot this year.
36:47They're going to be like play action, run the ball, be balanced.
36:50Maybe this isn't breaking any news, but that to me was kind of the big thing I noticed about this game.
36:56And I thought Carson Beck fit into that really well.
36:59Now, is there any takeaways from the Carson Beck thing?
37:02I might have more takeaways if Haynes King hadn't looked even more awesome.
37:06And he's an undrafted free agent out of Georgia Tech.
37:09Panthers. Dude, he had the game winning play. Yeah, I mean, this is a guy.
37:14Here's a guy. Collinsworth was in midseason for him, by the way.
37:17Here's a guy who. I love that they made Collinsworth do this.
37:21And Collinsworth, it's preseason for him too. I think this was genuine.
37:24He fucking loves football. They can't even for one moment break character and be like, yeah, it's the preseason.
37:30None of this matters. I think it is important to remind you right now.
37:34Preseason football is so different than regular season football.
37:37We've gotten that out of the way. That said, I mean, Haynes King, man.
37:416'2", 2'12", runs a 4'4", 6". We got Adam Schefter on McAfee talking about how the Panthers see him as a Taysom Hill type of player.
37:48I'm in, man. I'm adding him on Dynasty Leagues.
37:51He was the hot Dynasty ad this week. This is pathetic out of Dan Kelly.
37:56I'm disgusted. I'm disgusted with you. Craig is disgusted.
37:58You've watched four quarters of Panthers, Cardinals, Hall of Fame game football, and he's talking about adding guys in Dynasty.
38:04I was watching the final drive again this morning for Haynes King, and I think I recognized one Cardinals defensive name.
38:10He's watching tape on the Hall of Fame game.
38:13He's going back for more. He didn't have enough.
38:16I think my takeaway with Carson Beck is that he looked like he's played a lot of football, and he did look comfortable.
38:22He looks like a guy who's played like 50 or 60 college games, and I thought it kind of looked the part.
38:29Whether or not anybody on the field is going to be on a roster in a month, but I don't know.
38:35I thought he passed the eye test from a comfortability standpoint.
38:38It's better than him being really bad. Yeah, of course.
38:41That's a good point. That is true. I didn't see that.
38:45But he did look good. He did look good.
38:47I'll just never forget Kenny Pickett's preseason when he— Kenny Pickett was in this game, by the way.
38:53Exactly. For the Carolina Panthers. Exactly, DK. Is this his fourth team?
38:56How many teams has Kenny Pickett been on? Steelers, Browns, Eagles, now Panthers.
39:00How many teams has he been on? That's a great question.
39:03I have no idea. Four is, I believe, the correct number.
39:06He has played four. There were segments going on on ESPN saying— He was on the Eagles.
39:11Kenny Pickett is the next guy. Yeah, he was on the Eagles.
39:15And then he was on the Raiders. Oh, he was on the Raiders.
39:19So this is 15. Wasn't he on the Browns?
39:21No. Pittsburgh, Philly, Raiders, and now the Cardinals. Well, no.
39:24He wasn't on the Browns. He didn't play for the Browns because the Browns ditched him in like four months.
39:30The Browns got him in March and got rid of him in like August or something.
39:35But he was on the practice squad. Yeah, he was on the Browns.
39:39Yes. He just didn't play. He just didn't play.
39:42Okay. So the point is preseason is stupid. But also we have to glean like 10% of it that matters.
39:47All right. Let's get something that really, really matters a lot, which is all the hype out of preseason for random players.
39:54That really does matter. This is training camp hype, not even preseason hype.
39:58The first guy we have to talk about is Jacoby Lane, the receiver for the Ravens out of USC.
40:03The Ravens went and got two receivers. Elijah Surratt, Indiana, who led the college football touchdowns, and then Jacoby Lane from USC,
40:10who is basically just catches everything thrown his way.
40:13And DK, I feel like the book on Jacoby Lane coming out of college was can't separate, but can't not catch a football.
40:19Right. Yeah. Give us the scouting report. He's a big guy, right?
40:23He's like 6'4", 200. Yeah. And if you call that big, he's tall and very long.
40:28He has great length. He's like 80 foot or 80 inch wingspan.
40:31He has huge hands, 10 and a half inch hands.
40:34And he's fast. He ran like a 4'4". So he has the length and the speed combo that is definitely intriguing.
40:40I think coming out, though, the reason he wasn't ranked much higher for most people is just kind of one dimensional.
40:47Didn't separate a ton. Kind of still learning how to route people up.
40:50But man, he can dominate at a catch point.
40:53He's got a huge catch radius, which is like basically...
40:56I think it's... There's a chance here that he just is one of those guys that kind of got lost in the wash.
41:03But fits well with the offense that the Ravens want to run.
41:06And I think, you know, with Lamar, chuck it up to him.
41:10Let him come down with it. I saw Jameson Hensley who covers the Ravens.
41:14He's 27 years covering the Ravens. I'm not sure I've seen a rookie as have a training camp quite like wide receiver Jacoby Lane.
41:21To me, that gets my attention because you see a lot of hype every year.
41:25It also speaks to the Ravens. He's had one pro ball receiver in 27 years.
41:30The best receiver I've seen. Best training camp for a rookie I've ever seen.
41:34I don't know. You can't go a day without hearing his name, though.
41:38I will say that. He's maybe the star of training camp across the field.
41:42Jacoby Lane, he has... His ball skills, like his ability to catch the football coming out of college was better than a 9 out of 10.
41:50It's like T. Higgins-esque almost. When I was watching him, I was like, you know, at least at the catch point, the
41:56way he kind of spins and gets his feet down.
41:59He's very flexible and good body control in the air.
42:02I don't know. There's something there. But yeah, I can't believe the hype.
42:06I mean, it's pretty crazy so far. I think they end up starting for them.
42:10I do not think Jacoby Lane is anything for redraft or anything for this season.
42:15I think that he's a good example of a player that like, honestly, kind of reminds me a little bit of Isaac
42:21Tesla, his rookie year, where it's like he's going to do some absolutely crazy shit.
42:26And Jacoby Lane will probably end up like number one on SportsCenter, but he's not going to be in fantasy.
42:32The difference, though, is like Isaac Tesla was behind Amon Ross St.
42:35Brown and Jamison Williams and Sam Laporta. And the team had Jameer Gibbs, who's also catching a ton of passes.
42:41The Ravens have Zay Flowers and Rashad Bateman and Mark Andrews.
42:44Yeah. Yeah. Huge difference. It's a much lower barrier to entry here for Jacoby Lane.
42:49He's kind of like, you know how Ken Walker would do all the work and get to the goal line and Zach Charbonnet would score?
42:56Yeah. It's going to be Zay Flowers. Zay Flowers are going to just get to the Ravens to like the four and
43:03then they're going to like hand the ball to Derrick Henry.
43:06He'll get stuffed twice. And then on third down, they're just going to throw some crazy ball to Jacoby Lane and he's
43:12going to catch it for a touchdown. So you guys- One catch for six yards and a touchdown every week.
43:18Do you guys think Jacoby Lane is worth drafting and redraft?
43:22At any point. No. In a 12 team? No, not at all.
43:25Probably not. I think I'd have to see it and be like, maybe he's a waver ad.
43:30I don't think he's the kind of player that's going to come out.
43:34He's not like an Ibuka where Emeka Ibuka starts hot because he's like very polished and competent across all these ways.
43:40I think Lane, I think he's perfect for training camp.
43:43He's a perfect player to stand at a training camp.
43:46What does that mean for you guys with like the Browns players in fantasy?
43:50Because Denzel Boston, the rookie receiver again at Washington, who we all liked.
43:54Again, I keep thinking of him as a six foot four punt returner, which is just not a thing.
44:00He's agile. He's good in contested space. He's been like the standout rookie in training camp separating.
44:05But he is playing with Deshaun Watson. And I'm like, do you want Denzel Boston and fool yourself in the siren song of a receiver with a guy?
44:13Watson, the last time we saw him two Achilles tears ago was horrible.
44:17And now he's torn his Achilles twice since then as quarterback and has barely played football in like a couple of years.
44:23Do you actually do you want? Do you want Boston?
44:26Do you want Harold Fannin? Do you like want these players in your team?
44:30DK? Um, I don't know. Probably not. I definitely want Denzel Boston and dynasty and Fannin and dynasty.
44:36Um, but this year, let me ask you this hype.
44:39It's because I don't, I think I lean. I'd rather have Deshaun Watson starting from fantasy point of view in terms of
44:45like who, which quarterback is going to give this offense a little bit higher ceiling.
44:50I think it's still probably Deshaun Watson. I think they'd just run such a limited offense with Shutter Sanders.
44:55We saw what it looked like last year. Everything's just dump offs and get rid of the ball.
45:00And I don't know, and tons of sacks. And I, I just, I think even though the last one we saw Watson
45:07was really, really poor, if there is a chance that he can kind of shake off some of the rust and get
45:13somewhat closer to what he was, you know, prior to, um, when he was with the Houston Texans, I think that would
45:20give the offense much better, like upside and fancy Denzel Boston, um, you know, Quinch on jutkins, all some of these guys that were.
45:27A little bit scared to draft right now. Would you rather draft Denzel Boston and redraft this year?
45:32Oh yeah. Because of my priors. Yeah. Mainly. Even though the Ravens offense is probably going to be way better.
45:38I think Denzel Boston could actually be like a number one receiver in the NFL.
45:43Like, I mean, Denzel Boston could be like his ceilings, like Nico Collins.
45:47Like traditionally. Yeah. Traditionally speaking, he fits the profile much more as a true number one.
45:51Um, and so everything you've heard about him in camp is he's been outstanding.
45:55I mean, running routes, uh, winning at the catch point play strength.
45:59I think that's the one thing that Jacoby lane might not have is like the play strength aspect of it, where you're
46:05fighting through coverage and fighting, um, through contact to the catch point and all that stuff.
46:10So, um, that's Denzel Boston is just, he's a beast.
46:13So it's cool to see the hype that he's had again, the quarterback situation sucks, but I think I still would rather take that.
46:20Jacoby lane is a good player. I'm not trying to like be negative, but I do think it's funny.
46:26The quote from Jamison Henley was doing a lot of work where he's like in 27 years, I've never seen a rookie of the camp like this.
46:34I'm not, I wasn't kidding before. Zay flowers is the only pro bowl receiver in the history of the Ravens.
46:40They've never had good players. Like it's it's the Andre Hopkins wasn't practicing a ton there.
46:44They had to give Zay flowers $30 million a year.
46:47Just saying, I don't know. He's good though. Uh, the other guy that's high.
46:52So Denzel Boston, I will move them up in a rankings.
46:55I do. It's just too bad. He's in the Browns.
46:58The other Jalen Coker for the Panthers. I mean, he's a way more established player than these other guys.
47:03Like, you know, he's, I feel like. Cause Jalen Coker, he was undrafted right now.
47:08He's just like the bonafide number two receiver for the Panthers.
47:11They gave him an 11 million a year contract extension.
47:14Uh, he's having a good camp, but he's just a good player.
47:18Like he's just gonna have a long, I feel like Jalen Coker is gonna have like a decade long NFL career.
47:24Yeah. He's the Panthers version of Parker Washington. Where it's like the, the, like the low in the draft guy.
47:30That's like doing, does all the work, the underlying metrics.
47:33Everybody loves them. You can't, if you go on Twitter and type in Jalen Coker's name, like it's, it's just tweet after
47:39tweet about all these underlying metrics about how great Jalen Coker is from an efficiency standpoint.
47:44I mean, I think he's definitely better than Xavier Legat.
47:47So it's like you have him and Ted Oro and McMillan.
47:50Are the two guys in this offense. And if you believe in the Panthers to follow the pickup on the momentum of
47:57last year, Jalen Coker didn't play the whole season.
47:59Um, a guy who's like probably, you know, could be somebody that you're starting in your fantasy season halfway through the, halfway through the year.
48:07Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and Coker, and again, he's in a different class.
48:10I mean, that's a player we actually, I actually think you could play and it's fine.
48:15Um, also going like extremely late drafts right now.
48:17It's still early, but yeah. Did the last person we haven't talked about has been hyped up crazy is Cyrus Allen, the receiver for the chiefs.
48:25Yeah. We've not, I barely know who this person is.
48:28Here's a mid round pick. I think he was a fifth rounder.
48:32He, he's another guy that when you look at kind of his profile and what he did in college, he started out
48:38at Louisiana tech to play two seasons there, transferred to Texas A&M didn't really do a whole lot.
48:43And then transferred to Cincinnati and played one year at Cincinnati.
48:47Didn't put up elite numbers, but he did score 13 touchdowns, which was I think third in the FBS.
48:52Um, so, but like when you watch his tape, he's got some twitch to him.
48:57He can really get offline and separate guys from guys quickly.
49:00Um, shaking coverage and, and getting open and getting over the top of a defense.
49:04Like that's the kind of stuff you see, but then the other underlying stuff, all the stats, I'm like, not really sure what to make of this guy.
49:13And that was kind of what happened with the NFL too.
49:16I think the NFL wasn't really sure what to make of them.
49:19Um, but I will say, and this is something that Matt Harmon's brought up a bunch is like, he might be the
49:26only guy in the, in the chiefs offense who can actually separate well from coverage.
49:30Like for she rice, good at separating against zone Xavier worthy.
49:34Can't stay healthy. If he's a big time separator, either he to me was more of like a run after the catch guy, get him in space guy.
49:42There's this, there's a world in which Cyrus Allen is the guy who can separate for this offense.
49:47And, um, the word out of the camp so far, our Breer said that's very much part of the offensive plan for the chiefs.
49:54Um, he's back on the field. He got hurt briefly, but he's back on the field.
49:59I kind of lean that I'm sort of believing this, that he could be a legit sort of sleeper and fantasy just
50:06because of the way that the other two, the other main guys in the, in the receiving core for the chiefs are, um, hurt.
50:13And, you know, where she rice went off the field the other day, banged up.
50:17He never really looked all that explosive to start with.
50:20He's coming off a knee injury that he was rehabbing in jail.
50:24Um, and again, I'll never, I'll never, I'll never get over that.
50:27That little tidbit is fascinating. Um, but I do think, you know, they need someone who can separate and create on their
50:34own versus like trying to scheme guys up on every single play.
50:37Um, so that, that is what's fascinating about him.
50:40Again, I wouldn't like reach too high on him because he's a fifth round rookie.
50:44Um, but I do find that pretty interesting. It feels like the chiefs always have a guy like, I feel like the
50:51chiefs are very good at at manufacturing this narrative in the off season, that there's this like gem wet receiver that they're sitting on.
50:58You know what I mean? I, I, it's like, I forget who all the names have been.
51:03It's like Justin Ross and Noah Gray. There's always these, uh, these like late round sleeper guys that are, that are popping
51:09off in training camp that never materialized for Kansas city.
51:12Yes. I, I gotta tell you, I, I look at everyone fawning over Cyrus Allen the way, like you ever watch people do like salvia.
51:20I've watched somebody do salvia in person. I don't watch people doing salvia.
51:24My friend did salvia one time and I watched him do it in, in his living room.
51:29How long did it last? He just sat there watching.
51:32Not very long. Well, the drug, it's like a couple minutes.
51:35It's not long at all. That's that. I mean, that's how I feel watching Cyrus Allen in 10 days.
51:40No one's going to be able to remember. Salvia Allen.
51:43Um, I don't know. Salvia. I'm just like, it's one of those players where I'm like, it's a nice story.
51:49I hope he makes, he's going to make the team, but I think it speaks more to how much the chiefs skill
51:56player infrastructure has been allowed to rot. It would be, that's a really neat thing to say, but like, I don't know.
52:02I just, she writes, I think it speaks more to the problems that chiefs have that he's immediately dominant and maybe I'm wrong.
52:09Maybe Cyrus Allen has a lengthy and healthy NFL career, but I'm like, yeah, I don't think he's going to be a factor.
52:16Well, maybe for the real life chiefs, but not fantasy.
52:19I tend to agree. All right. So, uh, everything trending in your algorithms is stupid and dumb.
52:24Is that, is that where we're at? Don't believe training camp pipe.
52:27No, it's usually stupid. Okay. This segment is brought to you by chat GPT, the ringer fantasy football AI sponsor.
52:33So looking at the biggest risers and fallers in average draft position over the last week.
52:38So the biggest risers are Stefan Diggs, obviously, cause he's signed with Washington.
52:42Jaden blue. Who's the backup running back for Dallas.
52:44Jacoby lane, the catch wizard for Baltimore. Marshawn Lloyd is back up running back for the Packers.
52:49Debo Samuel. Cause he went back to the Niners and the biggest followers over the last week are Antonio Williams, who again,
52:56rookie in Washington, but they signed Diggs. Aranda Gadsden for the chargers.
53:00Cause you know, he might not play all the tight end snaps.
53:03Kalen black running back, uh, from Indiana and then Kenyon Sadiq running back, uh, running back tight end from the jets, uh,
53:10tight end from Oregon and went to the jets.
53:12And then Emmitt Johnson, who's running a backup running back down the chiefs.
53:16DK, any of these guys stand out to you either as a positive for the rises or someone to avoid on the fall.
53:23I mean, I think if you're talking about guys that you're.
53:26That believe the hype and believe why they're rising Stefan Diggs to me is the one.
53:31Um, I mean, we mentioned that the offense could suffer with the loss of, uh, Laramie Tunsil, but still, I think Stefan
53:37Diggs has a chance to be a real factor in fantasy.
53:41And so this one feels the realist to me and the guy that I probably the most likely to, to go after in a draft.
53:48To me, I think the fact that a Rondae Gadsden is a faller makes me want to draft him more.
53:54Like, I think if you can get him as the last pick in your draft, I think it's a worthy dart throw.
54:00I really do. Like what my, what Mike McDaniel has been able to do with guys like Johnny Smith, Darren Waller at the tight end position in Miami.
54:09A Rondae Gadsden was really good as rookie year.
54:11I mean, he had like over 600 yards. And if he ends up being a guy who was on the field for
54:18more than 75% of the snaps, could be a legitimate player in fantasy.
54:22I agree with both of you. I think Stefan Diggs is a really good value, even with Laramie Tunsil's injury at left tackle.
54:28I just think Diggs, again, being top 10 in yards per route run and top 10 in first downs per route run
54:35as a receiver and then entering this Washington offense.
54:38He just, I am, he, I think Diggs is, he's just a really, he's still got it, man.
54:43He's still a good player. And so I think he's not going to, you're going to be able to get Diggs at a huge value.
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55:09Okay. Other news. Craig, you flagged that the Rams and 49ers have different Australia plans for travel.
55:14I am fascinated by this. So week one, the Niners and Rams are playing in Australia.
55:18They have completely different travel plans. One, the Niners are going to get there a week early and try to acclimate.
55:25And the Rams are going to fly in like the day before the game and just kind of ride the adrenaline, play
55:31and get right back on the plane. They're not going to go to sleep at all.
55:36They're just going to go right to the game.
55:38Just, they're just going to rip monster energies and play through the game.
55:42This is what the Rams did last year. They went to London.
55:46They did the same thing. They arrived the morning of the game.
55:49They beat the Jags 35 to seven and then they left.
55:53That's crazy. They arrived the morning of? I think I missed that.
55:56This was from Dan Graziano's report in ESPN from last week.
55:59Because they're basically like trying to acclimate over the week is too difficult.
56:03And so you might as well just avoid it altogether and just basically show up, play a game and then leave, which
56:10I just think is kind of fascinating. I don't know.
56:13What do you guys think about that? Like as you guys have traveled a lot, like, do you feel like day five
56:19into the vacation is going to be a little bit more.
56:22You feel better or day one? Because I almost feel like day one is the worst day.
56:27Yeah. Day one to me is the absolute worst.
56:30I feel like. But I guess if you're really gaming it, you have these nice planes.
56:35You can try to like. Yeah. It's private. Different than how we're flying.
56:39Yes. But like I went to Italy last year with Liz and like the first day was the hardest day of my life.
56:45Like I couldn't keep my eyes. I couldn't walk down the street.
56:49I felt like I was going to die. I mean, being sleep deprived is like being drunk.
56:54I don't understand. But maybe you play better when you're drunk.
56:57That's like beer pong. Yeah. Plenty of players play drunk.
57:00They play. Marshall Lynch famously would take multiple. Plenty of guys take shots before games.
57:05So maybe. I don't know if that means he was drunk, but he took a shot.
57:09I mean, it probably takes a lot for Marshall Lynch to get drunk.
57:13Fair enough. But I think it's weird. I went to Stockholm and I ended up staying jet lag the whole time because the Knicks played a game.
57:21One of the finals at two 50 in the morning.
57:24Yeah. So I, I, we, I just felt like I stayed jet lag the whole time, but Australia is a different animal.
57:31I mean, it's kind of insane. I mean, what, how different is Australia?
57:3412 hours behind. No, they're ahead. Yeah. Or ahead.
57:37Whatever. Yes. Well, it's, it's like basically the longest flight you can take from LA to Sydney.
57:42I mean, I learned that in inception, obviously. It's right.
57:45It's like a 16, 17 hour flight. Um, what I found the most fascinating from 17 hours ahead of Los Angeles.
57:51It's, it's five. So right now, I don't know if we want to tell what time it is exactly here, but it's 12 o'clock.
57:58What are you hiding it? What do you, it's noon.
58:01It's noon. It's noon Pacific right now. I forget when we're, I don't know.
58:05Why do I care? Anyway, it's noon here. I don't know if we want to reveal for the Rams and 49ers.
58:12It's noon o'clock in Sydney. It's tomorrow morning at five 20.
58:15Yeah, dude. I thought the most. I can never wrap my mind around that Australia.
58:19It's Tuesday. It's tomorrow morning. That's so weird. That's why the game for them, for us, it's Wednesday.
58:25For them, it's Thursday though. Or no, sorry. For us, it's Thursday.
58:28For them, it's Friday when they play. But I thought one of the most interesting parts of this whole thing was, this is still from his report.
58:36The Rams had people from their organization fly from LA to Melbourne and back to track when and how much they felt the effects of the jet lag.
58:44They had jet lag scouts. That's amazing. Oh, that's a funny job.
58:48Can you imagine like, what are you doing this week?
58:51I got to go to Melbourne and back because I got to see how shitty I feel for Sean McVay.
58:57And you're like leaving the same day. Someone got to stay in Australia for five days and the other one had to
59:03fly back on the, just fly there and get back on the plane after eight hours.
59:08They had to like work out. Like they flew to Melbourne, like did a really intense workout and then flew back.
59:14Probably. And they had to do a whole, they probably had to track it.
59:18Here's my question. You fly the two guys out there, the two people.
59:22Yeah. How do you think they decided who got to do the five day Australian vacation and who got to just like
59:29get back on the plane the same day? Straw straws.
59:32Straws. Straws. Yeah. Who has more tenure there? I want to know if there's any shot in hell that somebody who did that is listening to this episode.
59:40I'm fascinated by this experiment. Please email us. I want to know what you did.
59:44Like what the math was behind it. I'm just fascinated by the whole thing.
59:49I would like to know some people if they have, what is it called?
59:53Like tricks or tips for traveling internationally where you're going and where you're getting massive amount of jet lag.
59:58How do you beat jet lag? And I want to know the Australians.
60:02See if all the Australians listening. I want to know what they think about this plan and which plans better.
60:08Although I think these short answers, the Niners are crushing it because they're getting as far away from the substation as they can for as long as possible.
60:16They're literally there. Is there a point on earth further from the substation than Melbourne?
60:21Yeah. They are getting out of Dodge as quickly as they possibly can.
60:25If you think about it, like the way the Rams are doing this, they're getting close to a substation.
60:30They're getting close to the electromagnetic field that's in space when they're flying on an airplane.
60:35Yeah. But we've learned. Is there an electromagnetic field in space?
60:38No, I don't know. I feel like you can.
60:41I feel like when you're flying, isn't there like more risk of getting radiation from space or something like that?
60:47I feel like flying a lot is not very good for you.
60:50There's more radiation the further you get from the ground.
60:53What the fuck are you guys talking about? There's radiation.
60:56Dude, our boy Brian Johnston, the guy who wants to live forever, he was talking about, he went to, I think, Australia recently.
61:03And he was talking about how terrible the flight is for your biometrics.
61:07Like it's really bad for your body. Like when you fly in a plane, you are exposed to more radiation because you
61:13are closer to like the atmosphere is thinner up there.
61:16Right. The cosmic radiation is stronger the higher up you are.
61:20It's basically like being next to the 49ers substation.
61:22Right. Although. I don't doubt either of you, but how do both of you know this?
61:27We. How do you know anything? You hear it once and then you believe it.
61:31Airplanes, you're on radio. You're getting radiation. Well, it's not from the plane.
61:35It's from the atmosphere. It's from it's cosmic radiation.
61:38It's not the plane giving you radiation. Yeah. I saw the core with Aaron Eckhart.
61:42Right. I know about the solar winds or whatever.
61:45But then, you know, or whatever. DK. It's through.
61:48Astronauts live super long. So maybe it is good for you.
61:51Do they? Yeah. Maybe. Is that just because they're type A freaks who are good at everything?
61:56I looked into this. We did a movie on the rewatchables.
61:59Freak complimentary. Dude, like Buzz Aldrin's still alive. Right.
62:02Two of the guys from Apollo 13 just died a couple years ago in their 90s.
62:06All these guys, all these astronauts live super long.
62:09Maybe that they were actually replaced by aliens when they went to space and that's not actually them.
62:14That's the conspiracy. How do they do that if they didn't go to space, DK?
62:19Just pretend death. I did the research and the reason why it seems that astronauts live so long is actually way less cool than you think.
62:27I thought it was like special magic space dust that kept them alive as they were touched by the aliens.
62:32But in reality, it's that one, to be an astronaut, you need to be like 0.001% on the health scale.
62:38You need to be like incredibly healthy. And two, astronauts are, I didn't know this, that they get checkups on a yearly
62:45basis to monitor their health through their entire lives.
62:48So why? No, but like I- Because they're studying the effects of space.
62:51Yes, they're studying the effects of space travel. So it's like the second these guys have anything, it's like nipped in the
62:58bud and then they live for it. So. Why were you looking this up?
63:02Oh, because you watched a movie? What movie? It's a rewatchables that's coming that I don't want to spoil.
63:08Okay. Well, it's okay. DK already revealed what time it is.
63:11So, I mean, we already kind of let it out.
63:14I don't know why I cared about that. I can't reveal what time it is.
63:18I don't know if we want to let people know what time it is.
63:22Yeah. We don't want people to know where we are at any given time, you know?
63:27The other thing I wanted to talk about is the Bills have their alternate uniforms, the City Connects, and it's Nickel City,
63:34which is a great name for the Bills alternates.
63:36But the jerseys themselves are just kind of gray.
63:39I don't mean this in a hyperbolic sense. I think these are the worst NFL jerseys I've ever seen.
63:45These are an abomination. I don't know. I get it.
63:47Nickel is gray. But, like, gray is the worst NFL jersey color.
63:51Bar none. It's crazy that they did this because I think these Bills uniforms, we can try to throw the graphic up
63:58on Netflix or Spotify if you're watching or just Google the Bills.
64:01These look like Mac uniforms. They look like the default team in a montage.
64:05Am I wrong? What uniforms, DK? Like a team from the Mac.
64:09I don't know. Oh, my God. They do. Yeah.
64:11It looks like a movie couldn't get NFL rights, so they had to create their own fake team.
64:17Yeah. They're, like, in any given Sunday, like, montage or something.
64:20Yeah. This is a fake team. This looks like some fucking XFL shit.
64:24I can't believe it. Let's try it out for this team.
64:27Yeah, exactly. I saw Josh Allen and he's running out.
64:30I don't know what that was. Was that a real video?
64:33He was, like, in a stadium filled with fans.
64:36But I don't know how that was possible. But, um...
64:39Craig, there's a 250 slide thing on the website for the Bills I'm looking at.
64:43I don't know if I'm going to look at all 250 of these uniforms.
64:47They have 200... You mean the slide of 250 photos of these uniforms?
64:51There's 250 pictures in this slide reel or whatever.
64:54Like, I just don't... It's, like, what if we made a grout fit a uniform?
64:58Like, it's just all gray. It's horrible. It looks like they're in sweats.
65:02And also, the helmets are terrible. At some point, the people designing these uniforms started playing scared.
65:07I know. What did you say? Grout fit? You ever heard of a grout fit?
65:12No, I don't know what that is. It's like when you wear, like, a gray sweatshirt and gray sweats together.
65:18A grout fit? Yeah. Okay. I honestly, like, this might sound arrogant, but, like, I think I could fix the jersey situation in a day.
65:25Yeah, what are you doing with this? I feel like I could just pick every jersey and make them good.
65:31And I would go back. Just look at all the iterations of past Bills jerseys.
65:35I'll just tell you which ones you should pick and iterate off of, and we'd be golden.
65:40It's not that hard. These are so bad. These are terrible.
65:44What's also annoying is it's annoying when they screw up teams that have awesome throwback uniforms.
65:48Sure, yeah. Yeah. Like, the Bills with, like, and the Bills have worn them before, but, like, just the white with just the red buffalo is great.
65:56I totally agree. And I know you, I get this whole thing's a racket where it's like you're just creating more new jerseys to, like, sell them probably.
66:04But. Make them cool. Make them cool. Buy them.
66:07Josh Allen looked lame. I've never said that in my life.
66:10He just got second. He just got second in the hottest thing and he looked bad.
66:15I winced when I saw him. We talked a week ago that Will Levis said there's not 32 quarterbacks better than me.
66:22I'm sending you this. Did you guys see this video?
66:25Will Levis managed to Levis from the practice? He managed to, like, do another really embarrassing Will Levis thing.
66:30Oh. Somehow. Somehow. I did see this. He slipped and fell trying to roll out.
66:35It was great. Okay, I'm watching now. He tries to roll out to the right.
66:39Uh-oh. Doesn't see anybody. Oh, dear. And he fell down.
66:42I don't know if you guys have ever seen my little series on Twitter where it's like, you know, if I was
66:49pretending to be a quarterback and it's just, like, the worst plays I've ever seen in college football.
66:54That looks like this. Yeah. Poor guy. Okay. Emails.
66:56Emails. Many people sent us this, but did you see there was a list going around of the best names in college football?
67:03Oh, no. There's a lot of good ones, though.
67:06There are some incredible. There are always incredible names to college football.
67:09Obviously. Current college. These are players for this season.
67:12Oh, cool. Obviously, we love the old-timey baseball names, but these are 2026 college football players.
67:17Lunch Winfield. Lunch. His name's Lunch. Lunch sounds like an old-timey name.
67:20Yeah, I was going to say. He sounds like he's on the White Sox in 1892.
67:25This is a guy who one time in his first year said, hey, do you guys want to go to lunch?
67:31And then they just called him lunch for the rest of his life.
67:35They're like, lunch? She's a quarterback. Quarterback named Lunch, no less.
67:38When's Lunch? Memphis is a quarterback named Air Noland.
67:41Air Noland. His name's Air. Okay. Is that his real given name?
67:45I don't know. I'm not going to ask that for any of these guys.
67:49Army has a running back named God's Power. Okay.
67:51This guy's on his way to being a general.
67:54I was going to say, I can't figure out which name is more likely to be fake.
67:59God's or Power? General God's Power. No, his first name's God's Power.
68:03His last name's, I believe, Nuawe, but his first name is God's Power.
68:06Oh, his first name's God's Power. That's actually weirdly more believable.
68:10Yeah. There are also running backs this year named Gravy, Turbo, and Tuna.
68:14Gravy. Those are all great. And Tiger. Tuna Altair is maybe my favorite.
68:17Stand for Turbo, Richard, Gravy, Johnson. There is a receiver.
68:20Gravy, Johnson. Dude, Gravy, Johnson. Gravy, Johnson. Of course, it had to be Johnson.
68:24Gravy, Johnson. It's a tight end named Ocean Brabs.
68:27Ocean spelled like ocean? Yes. Exactly. Like ocean. Yeah.
68:30Ocean Brabs. Oklahoma's got a tight end named Rocky Beers.
68:33Whoa. Come on. Holy shit. Rocky Beers? That's the most frat star name of all time.
68:37Wow. Rocky Beers. That's funny. UTEP is a tight end named Cash Cheeks.
68:41Oh, no. That's a stripper name if I've ever heard one.
68:45I guess. Cash Cheeks being a tight end. Oh, it's tight end.
68:48You'd think there's something there. We got a linebacker named Fat Forest.
68:52That's the best one. That's the best one right there.
68:55F-A-T? F-A-T-T. F-A-T-T. Oh, that means it's like a real name, which is even cooler.
68:59Fat Forest. Two T's, two R's. Fat Forest. Man.
69:02Chance Gamble. Okay. That's like a freaking Austin Powers name.
69:05Now you're just fucking me. Chance Gamble. D-I-C Hopkins.
69:07D-I-C. And one of... Not to be confused with DeColdest.
69:10No, not DeColdest. D-I-C. And then also my favorite, Ellis Ellis Jr.
69:14Sure. Ellis Ellis. My top three, Rocky Beers, Cash Cheeks, and Fat Forest.
69:18Those are awesome names. Fat Forest is unbelievable. I love Terrence Salami.
69:21Terrence Salami and... I love King Large. King Large.
69:24And Gravy Johnson is good too. Favor Bait. I don't know what to do with that.
69:29Favor Bait. Okay. People also emailed in with Bill's idea about grenades.
69:32Oh, right. I'm going to tell you off the jump.
69:35I don't know if anyone really nailed it. Okay.
69:38Oh. Okay. We got work to do. I don't think it's any emailer's fault.
69:42There's something there. Yeah. But again, if you didn't listen to the last episode, Bill...
69:46How would you explain it, Craig? Bill basically wants that...
69:49The idea was like a grenade. You want to be able to saddle somebody else's team with a bad quarterback for one week during the season.
69:57Can you sabotage someone? Yeah. So people, many people, including Bobby Evans, many people emailed it and pretty quickly nailed down one
70:03part of it, which we somehow did not, which was, you need to roster the bad player on your team and then
70:10you have to hold them and then you have to use it on other people.
70:14Yeah. Which somehow we did not decide, but that's definitely the answer.
70:18Just a point of reference here. Do we... When you're using your grenade on another player, do you like the rule that
70:24it has to be the player, the person that you're playing that week?
70:28Or do you like the chaos thing of you just throw a grenade at someone else who's in a different matchup?
70:34I kind of like the latter. I think it'd be funnier if you're like...
70:39Well... I'm like fucking over Craig, even though he's playing Heifetz this week.
70:42Right. Because if it's like week 13 and you and I are battling to make the playoffs, that makes sense.
70:48Yeah. My question is, could everybody just team up on one guy?
70:52Like, could everybody in the league just give Heifetz a different grenade for 13 straight weeks?
70:57Yes, actually. That would be loud. I like to live in a world where that's possible.
71:01Heifetz is just starting Carson Beck and Deshaun Watson every week?
71:05Wow. I didn't think about it that way. It's a little dangerous.
71:08So here's the thing. People have emailed in. I think there has to be...
71:12It can't be one for each position. Quarterback, running back.
71:15It's got to be quarterback, right? Here's the issue.
71:18If it's super flex, all the quarterbacks are going to be rostered.
71:21Unless you think it's just a bad backup each week.
71:24Well, it's got to be somebody who's starting that isn't rostered.
71:28You can't just... It's boring if it's just you're throwing a player who doesn't play onto another's team, right?
71:33That's the thing. It has to be a quarterback who's playing.
71:36Right. Which you can't... They have to be starting.
71:39And you can't guarantee that happens. Like, if Carson Beck becomes the starter, somebody might add him legitimately, just in case.
71:45And then... That's the thing. That is the flaws.
71:48I think if it was not super flex, it'd be doable.
71:51Yeah. Okay. So no super flex grenades. I think it's a tough thing to do in tandem with super flex.
71:57Because most quarterbacks are rostered. The only idea I heard that I thought tickled me enough to be...
72:02It was an email from Evan. Evan! Ebone. This is not perfect, but there's something here.
72:07Okay. Evan said that for Bill's exercise of grenade quarterback, I propose a hot potato trade exercise with one person in particular.
72:14Tyler Shuck. He says, I think you guys should tinker with the idea of getting shucked.
72:18We're shucking your friends. Okay. I've been shucked him.
72:21And basically, every week, someone can just foist Tyler Shuck onto someone in a 1v1.
72:25You just trade him to someone. What if he's good?
72:28And then you have to play him, and then you have to move on from every week.
72:33So it's the sisterhood of the traveling Tyler Shuck.
72:36And you're shucking someone every week. I like that.
72:39I mean, the name shucking is great, but I do think he might be...
72:43I feel like it has to be like Geno or somebody else that is a little bit more...
72:48Like, Tyler Shuck might just be like the QB9 this year.
72:51I agree. If he was worse, it'd be perfect.
72:54He's just good enough that it might be positive, but getting shucked is so good.
72:59We can't say getting genoed. You have to get shucked.
73:02I mean, what if it's Aaron Rodgers and then you're immunized?
73:05Pass Rodgers around every week. Yeah, you're inoculating each team.
73:08Each roster gets inoculated with Aaron Rodgers. That could work.
73:11A brief immunization. Yeah, that's not bad. A week-long shot in the arm.
73:14And then every week it's a booster. All right, that's...
73:17That's not bad. A week-long shot in the arm.
73:20That's pretty good, Craig. So, the way Evan said it could work is basically you would send Shuck or Aaron Rodgers, and
73:27then you have to play him at quarterback. Like, you have to play Rodgers that week.
73:31And then you have to move on from him the next week.
73:35You have to send him to somebody else every week.
73:38Rodgers kind of fits this perfectly. Rodgers would be really good for the bit.
73:42That would be good. Ah, there's something there. Okay.
73:45That might be something there. Let's noodle on that.
73:47And the last thing I want to say before we get out of here is, Craig, we're doing...
73:53Join our Discord. Bring a fantasy football show. We have Discord.
73:56Get in there if you like Discord. We currently have...
73:59There's a 32-team guillotine league. It's absolutely preposterous. Two teams are getting...
74:02So, a guillotine league is, like, usually, I think, 16 teams, and someone gets chopped every week.
74:07Right. Oh, shit, I'm on the clock. Yeah, you're OGC.
74:10I was going to say, you're on the clock.
74:13Are you going to pick? It's 32 teams. It's insane.
74:16I've never done anything like this. Is Luther Burton still out there, Craig?
74:20You bet your fucking ass he is. I think you better take him.
74:24You're going to make your pick? Craig took Drake...
74:26You took Drake May with your first pick, and I was like, oh, that's interesting.
74:31Were you just afraid you wouldn't get a quarterback?
74:33Yes. I did guillotine for the first time last year, and I realized how important it is to have a good quarterback.
74:40Well, yeah. Luther Burton is there, but so is Abuka, who I have ranked much higher, and I really like Abuka this year.
74:47Craig, come on. What are we doing here? This is your guy.
74:50All right. Maybe Burton will come back around when 14 picks him now.
74:54Yeah. That was... Who gives a shit? Fuck it.
74:57So did you not want Tee Higgins? Tee Higgins right there.
75:00Who cares? That's my whole philosophy. I'm in a 32-team guillotine league.
75:03I'll have a little fun, for Christ's sake. Well, you technically have Tee Higgins ranked higher.
75:08No. My team will suck. Whatever. I'll be out week three.
75:11I literally also kind of want Tee Higgins, but I do keep thinking about how the Bengals have not been good in
75:18the first two weeks of the season in like five years.
75:21Right. You're going to pick him up on the waiver wire in week six.
75:25That's true. If you're still alive. Who can we make Heifetz take?
75:29I'm taking Tee Higgins. Oh, I already made my pick.
75:32Oh, that means I'm on the clock. I should have done it.
75:35I should have took Garrett Wilson a bit, because I shit-talked him so much.
75:40He's probably going to win Offensive Player of the Year.
75:42DK, you have to take Zay Flowers. What if I'm out?
75:46No, you have to take Waddle. You should take Waddle.
75:49Yeah, you got to take Waddle. I thought I was going to take Jaden Daniels.
75:53I regret not doing a bit. Now I feel dumb.
75:56Yeah, that was lame. Oh, I should have taken Scadaboo.
75:59Damn it. Is Jaden Daniels aligned with the bit enough?
76:02Absolutely not. I think you have to take Zay Flowers or Waddle.
76:05Or Scadaboo. Oh, God. Take Aaron Rodgers. I don't like any of these.
76:09Come on. All right, I'm taking Zay Flowers. My God, really?
76:13Did he just get hurt? Why did you guys tell me this?
76:16He's a giant bruise. I just took a guy who was out for a month.
76:21We all made our picks already. Oh, man. Whatever, dude.
76:24All right, I forgot. Who did I pick first?
76:26You know. Oh, I picked CD Lamb. So now I have two receivers.
76:30All right. Yikes. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig.
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76:48Who's on millennial bangers duty today? I think it's Greg.
76:51Thank you. I'm always on call. Okay. Thank you, DK.
76:54Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Cam. Thank you, Nikhil.
76:57Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Abu. Thank you, Carlos.
76:59Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Lord. Lord. All right.
77:02We're going to go with. We haven't really mentioned a whole lot of T-Pain, who is the goat.
77:07Wow. But I don't want to go. There's Bartender.
77:10There's Buy You a Drink. Classics. Sure. But I want to dig a little deeper than that.
77:15There's a song called All The Above by Mayno from 2009 featuring T-Pain.
77:19Banger. Absolute banger. This does not ring a bell.
77:21I'm going to have to listen to this. Fire that up.
77:25It's like a symphony of T-Pain. It's so good.
77:27I feel like I'm in church when I listen to it.
77:31Oh, yeah. What's the song called? I know the song, Craig.
77:34It's called All The Above. Whoa. Which is kind of what he's also doing on I Just Had Sex.
77:39It's great. This does sound like Lonely Island. It's a symphony, dude.
77:43This sounds exactly like the beginning to I Just Had Sex.
77:46Yeah. I feel like I'm levitating. It's like the same thing.
77:49I feel like I'm levitating. I Just Had Sex, though, is Akon, not T-Pain.
77:54You have a T-Pain on there, isn't he? But listen to the beginning of I Just Had Sex.
77:59It's like identical. It's like the same thing. I Just Had Sex, also banger.
78:03But All The Above, dude, they don't make them like that.
78:06I don't think I've heard this in like 10 years.
78:09Yeah. So good. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. All The Above.
78:12All The Above. Whoa. It's good. Tell me, what do you see?
78:15See when you're looking at me? Me. That's great.
78:18I'm looking at the YouTube video of this, and the first comment is, this is literally one of the greatest rap songs ever written.
78:25Dude, it's good. It's really good. I don't know what to tell you.
78:29T-Pain's a legend. T-Pain is so savvy, dude. T-Pain can sing.
78:32That's the funny thing. He has a great voice.
78:35He just was smart and savvy and figured out how to make the autotune thing work.
78:40And he's killing it. T-Pain has one of the best Tiny Desks.
78:43Yeah. He's just sitting there singing acapella. He's just like, let me buy you a drink at Tiny Desk.
78:49It's amazing. He's great. Good Instagram lives. Okay. T-Pain was, I think, he was at the Ringer doing something with Mal and Jason for Talk to Thrones.
78:57I think my second week of work at the Ringer.
79:00I was an intern. Oh, wow. I didn't know that.
79:03And I had to do an Instagram story for the Ringer account.
79:06And it was one of the first 30 things I had to do with this company was someone was like, you have
79:13to go talk to T-Pain right now. And I was like, and I think I went up to him and I felt like Cousin Greg.
79:20And I was like, so do I? Excuse me, Mr.
79:23Payne? Mr. Payne? Mr. I can't call him T.
79:26That's Mr. Payne. Can I? He was like the nicest guy, but I felt so stupid.
79:30I think I said Mr. T-Pain. I think that's what I went up for.
79:35I think it went. Could you? Because I don't want to be like, I'm like 22.
79:39What am I going to do? Just say, hey, T-Pain, get over it.
79:43It is tricky. I don't know what you hate.
79:46You're not going to be like, hey, T-Pain. Yeah.
79:48Why not? T-Pain, T-Pain. Like Mr. You know, I don't know.
79:52How do you formally address T-Pain? I think I called him Mr.
79:55Payne or Mr. T-Pain. You can't call him Mr.
79:58T. That's for sure. Mr. Payne works. No, you can't call him T.
80:02There are certain names. Like, how do you formally address Jay-Z?
80:05Would you go Mr. Carter? Honestly, I think you got to go Hove.
80:09You have to call Hove. You have to. I would love to see you hit him with a Hove.
80:14What's up, man? I also think you got to do that, Hybit.
80:18How would you? Well, you know how I talked to Jerry Jones.
80:22Nice to see you again. I know, right? There you go.
80:25Then you turn around on him. He's trying to rack his brain as who you are.
80:30There you go. Nightmare scenario. Jay-Z and Beyonce. Are you going Hove and Miss Knowles?
80:34Like, what are you doing? You get like a syllable out and then the largest bodyguards you've ever seen are tossing you out.
80:41Like Messi's security guards are just launching you back into the stone age.
80:45Have you ever seen how big Messi's bodyguards are?
80:47No. Yeah. Google Messi bodyguards. I think it's familiar.
80:50They're like Johnny Bravo. They're the biggest guys you've ever seen.
80:53Well, compared to Messi. Sorry, that was low-hanging fruit.
80:56That was also low-hanging fruit. Oh, maybe you're right.
80:58Maybe I've only seen him next to Messi. Maybe he's not that big.
81:02Damn, you're right. I probably just saw him next to Messi and just thought he was like 6'8".
81:08He's just normal size. It's like the Odyssey thing.
81:10Yeah, exactly. He just looks like a giant. Yeah.
81:13Oh, my God. Okay. Anyway, all the above, T-Pain.
81:16Listen to that. It'll be on the playlist that we share at the end of the month.
81:21I added it. I don't know why that's funny.
81:23I just like it. You're saving it till the end of the month.
81:27Well, I got to compile it and then I'll release it.
81:30We can't release it now. Careful, TK. You can't reveal what time it is.
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