Giants Week From Hell, Players Most Likely to Break Records in '26, and the 1897 Cleveland Spiders
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1 hr 41 min
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Jun 1, 2026
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Mon, June 1, 2026
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Jayden DanielsMalik WillisMatthew StaffordPuka NacuaCalvin Austin IIIChristian McCaffreyDak PrescottDarius SlaytonJoe BurrowJonathan TaylorMalik NabersSaquon Barkley
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Calvin Austin III
PositiveDepth Chart0:30
With Malik Nabors' injury and Darius Slayton's uncertain status, Calvin Austin may see increased playing time in the Giants' offense.
Insight pageChristian McCaffrey
PositiveBust0:39
Christian McCaffrey is described as the most boom-bust player of all time, having won leagues for some while ruining seasons for others.
Insight pageDak Prescott
PositiveProjection0:50
Dak Prescott is viewed as a potential candidate to break the single-season touchdown record due to the offensive talent around him.
Insight pageDarius Slayton
NegativeInjury0:32
Darius Slayton is recovering from abdominal muscle surgery and may not be ready for the start of the season, which adds to the Giants' receiving woes.
Insight pageJayden Daniels
PositiveSleeper0:56
Jaden Daniels is highlighted as a potential buy-low candidate with elite rushing upside, having recorded 891 rushing yards as a rookie.
Insight pagePositiveBreakout0:58
Jaden Daniels has the potential to return to his rookie form, which was impressive and not fluky. The previous season's struggles are viewed as an aberration, and he is expected to be a strong fantasy option moving forward.
Insight pageJoe Burrow
PositiveProjection0:50
Joe Burrow is considered a candidate to potentially break the single-season touchdown record, especially with a high-octane offense.
Insight pageJonathan Taylor
PositiveProjection0:30
Jonathan Taylor is projected to have a significant workload, averaging 18 to 20 carries per game, and is seen as a potential candidate for a high rushing yard total this season.
Insight pageMalik Nabers
NegativeInjury0:03
Malik Nabors underwent a cleanup procedure on his knee after previously tearing his ACL and meniscus, raising concerns about his ability to return to form for the upcoming season.
Insight pageMalik Willis
PositiveSleeper0:56
Malik Willis is considered a fun sleeper for fantasy this year due to his speed and potential for rushing production.
Insight pagePositiveSleeper0:58
Malik Willis is considered a good fantasy pick due to his low cost, making him an intriguing option for those looking for value at quarterback.
Insight pageMatthew Stafford
PositiveInjury0:39
There are concerns about Matthew Stafford's health, particularly regarding his back, which has led the Rams to draft Ty Simpson.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:50
Matthew Stafford's 46 touchdown passes last year rank as the sixth most in NFL history, showcasing his potential for high production.
Insight pagePuka Nacua
PositiveSleeper0:36
Puka Nakua is considered a sleeper pick with the potential for a breakout season, especially if he can secure a significant role in the Rams' offense under Sean McVay.
Insight pagePositiveBreakout0:39
Puka Nacua has the potential to be a league-winning player this year, as he could emerge as the number one receiver in fantasy football if he stays healthy and locked in.
Insight pageSaquon Barkley
PositiveProjection0:31
Saquon Barkley is noted for his potential to reach high rushing totals, but the discussion suggests that his previous peak performance may not be replicated this season.
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1:09For the Ringer Fantasy Football Show, my name is Danny Heifetz, and I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlbeck for
1:16our first episode from our regular studio setup since I got married.
1:19It's been like a couple weeks. The Giants completely imploded while I unplugged from the NFL.
1:24So we're going to get to that in a minute.
1:27Although you're listening to this. Go Knicks. Yeah, go Knicks.
1:30Incredible. You're listening to this June 1st or whenever we put this episode up.
1:34We are recording it May 26th. The Knicks swept.
1:37So the Knicks have not played since. So there you go.
1:40Which one do you want to explain the stupid thing we're doing here with potential record breakers?
1:45But it's actually not stupid. I love it. I can do that.
1:48Yeah, we looked at some of the all time legendary seasons in fantasy football.
1:53LaDainian Tomlinson, you know, basically records that feel like they're unbreakable, but maybe actually not are not unbreakable, especially now that we're
1:59going to 17, 17 game season, maybe 18 game season eventually.
2:02But yeah, we're going to look at those and then try and figure out who has the best shot to break those records in 2026 and why.
2:10And maybe some dark horse options in those. Yeah, it's like looking at the ceiling plays for guys this year.
2:16If any of if we you know, because sometimes not necessarily the best pick in fantasy is the one that you think could break a record.
2:24It's kind of like risk reward. So we'll get into that.
2:27Yeah, it's like if someone came back from the future and was like, hey, someone's going to run for 2000 yards this year.
2:34Who is it going to be? And it almost clarifies like the upside of a lot of the players and upsets what matters.
2:41So I want to start though. Well, actually, I guess we should start with the Giants imploding.
2:46Is this really last week tonight? Since people are going to listen to this in June, it happened like a week or two ago at this point.
2:53But Heifetz is riding too high off of this marriage thing after getting married.
2:58Heifetz got married. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers signed with the Steelers the night of Heifetz's wedding.
3:02And then Jackson Dart introduces Donald Trump and Abdul Carter is tweeting about it.
3:06And it's been great. And also, amid all that, Joe Shane, the Cuck chair GM got extended, a contract extension.
3:12Get an even bigger chair. It's like a Barker lounger.
3:15Roy Robertson here. Exactly. It's a nice chair. He got a nice chair now for the corner.
3:20Their defensive tackle, the other defensive tackle, not Dexter Lawrence, who started all 17 games last year, tore his Achilles.
3:26And then it came out that Malik Nabors got a cleanup procedure on his knee where he tore his ACL last year and his meniscus.
3:33And then he got a cleanup procedure and they hope he's back for week one, which is totally different than like the beginning of training camp.
3:41That all happened in like a five day period.
3:43Ultimately, like we're laughing about the Joe Shane thing.
3:46Like the Jackson Dart Trump thing is a funny storyline that's going to dominate headlines for a little while.
3:52But the Malik Nabors news is actually by far the most impactful, don't you think?
3:56Like there's a chance this guy is never the same as what he was as a rookie.
4:01Jesus! I mean, I'm just saying I'm saying what everyone else is also waiting.
4:05Right. Like his knee is kind of fucked up.
4:08That's why he's had had has had these setbacks.
4:11Now, Adam Schefter is like, I don't know what I'm hearing.
4:14It's not great. Here's what I'm hearing. Here's the question.
4:17Heifetz, are you regret? Are you already regretting Arvel Reese at five?
4:20Should you have taken a wide receiver now that if you don't have Malik Nabors, you're going to be trotting out this
4:27season with Darius Slayton for the ninth season in a row and Calvin Austin?
4:31I don't know if Darius Slayton's going to play.
4:33He had abdominal muscle surgery. He might not have been ready.
4:37Maybe Calvin Austin and Darnell Mooney. I, you know, it's funny that you know who else?
4:41You know who was upset about the Arvel Reese pick?
4:44Malik Nabors, who bitched about it on a Bleach Report live stream when the Giants took Arvel Reese at five.
4:50He's like, we have our, we have Abdul Carter for that spot, which different position.
4:55Then they took. What position is he going to play?
4:58Then they took Marino at 10 and he's like, I can't believe we didn't take Caleb Downs.
5:03And I'm like, shut the fuck up, Malik. God damn it.
5:06Stop complaining. Quit killing the vibes. Fuck man. So, so Heifetz, if you, if you had to quickly power rank the, the,
5:12the worst vibes news out of the Giants in the last two weeks, what's number one?
5:17Uh, in the moment, it was kind of wild to see dart come out and like introduce Trump.
5:22And then Abdul Carter is like beefing with him on Twitter.
5:25And it's one of those where, wow. You're going to get political.
5:29Really? The neighbors cleanup surgery is not worse. No, that's, that's where I'm going.
5:33I'm saying that's the larger story. Obviously it also like everyone understands that like people disagree with them and everyone will move on from the dark thing.
5:41Like it doesn't actually matter. I don't think he, I will say though, like his nickname might last forever.
5:47We're calling him J six now. It's JD six.
5:49Uh, by the way, Abdul Carter tweeted after, after like, after saying this whole thing on Twitter about, I was like, what the hell, man?
5:57I thought this was a E or AI. He's like, what was that?
6:00A E. I don't know where that came from.
6:03AI. You ever hear Boris Johnson say AI? He's like, I, I was like, he's the running.
6:08He just says, I, I reads it, reads it.
6:11Um, then, and then Carter came back and said, don't worry.
6:14JD six. And I are good. We talked the media.
6:17You guys are out of control. It's like, you tweeted it.
6:20Justin Timberlake in the social network. Just like J six.
6:23He's like, you guys got to calm down. Fucking media ran wild with this.
6:27Like you literally tweeted. I thought this was AI.
6:30This sucks. It's like, what are we supposed to do?
6:33Is it the Eric Andre meme where he's like, he shoots the guys killed Hannibal.
6:37I, he literally shoots him and he goes, who killed Hannibal?
6:40But that was also the dark thing too. It's like one of the, it's, it's not, it's obviously wading into politics.
6:47It's not, it's a political version of what Baker Mayfield did all the progressive commercials after one season where it's like Jackson Dart.
6:53Like you had like a couple of good months.
6:56You couldn't stay healthy. Wading into politics when it, I mean, there's a difference between voting for Trump and like introducing him.
7:03Oh, I thought you were making a pun like progressives versus conservatives.
7:06No, that would have been funny. Like Baker Mayfield did a progressive commercial.
7:10Oh, there we go. That's a good point. And Dart is doing a conservative commercial.
7:14That would have been good. I wish I was smart enough for that.
7:18No, I just like, I don't know. It's like, it is quite, I don't know any player just kind of doing that.
7:25Like it, it is, you are the idea that you're like, I can't believe my teammates didn't react to this well.
7:31It's like a little bit like naive. Like it's an incredibly divisive human being and you go out there on stage and introduce him.
7:38That is the divisive. This may or may not be the point.
7:41But I think the story that will actually, it's not, no one's, it will literally be more of a meme online with
7:48scataboo and dart that it will be impactful to the season.
7:51The Mike neighbors knee issue is that will actually affect the giant season to Craig's point about, or is Darnell Mooney going to be starting for this team?
7:59Because not to get too in the weeds with knee injuries, not like I'm a fricking doctor, but when you have ACL,
8:06basically they wait two weeks for the swelling to go down to do the surgery.
8:10But when you have a meniscus that also delays the surgery and also delays the recovery.
8:15So when you're like, Oh, ACL meniscus, it's kind of just a line people read.
8:19And then you forget to even include it. They're like, he tore his ACL.
8:23He had a full Malik neighbors had a full meniscus repair as well.
8:27So he didn't get the surgery till almost Halloween.
8:30And then the fact that he's getting a cleanup in May is that mean what it was.
8:35It was to repair lingering stiffness, which you can fill in your own jokes there.
8:39But yeah, that's not good. Especially when four hours, consult your doctor after four months, if it's still stiff, consult your doctor.
8:46And I guess that's what they had to do.
8:48But like, yeah, his, what is Malik neighbors whole thing going back to when he was a prospect man moves different.
8:55Yeah. So now there's, I think Harbaugh was saying they're hoping he can be ready to go by the beginning of the season.
9:01Like it's always these updates where the timeline has moved so far back from what you were expecting that it gets really worried.
9:08I mean, now, I mean, you're looking at Malik neighbors who might not be ready.
9:12And even if he is ready, might not be fully himself.
9:16Week one, you have Kim Scadaboo coming off a really brutal injury to his foot ankle.
9:20Don't worry. Kim Scadaboo said he would run for three Jicarious and have 2000 yards.
9:25Right. You have Dart who got hurt every other game because he's making reckless decisions on the field and off the field
9:31now, perhaps a little bit in the media. This is, I, are the giants already, is it already over?
9:37All the way back. I feel like, I feel like they were the Patriots.
9:41Everyone a month ago would have been like, who's the Patriots of this season that people would have bet the New York Giants.
9:48It's we're recording this on May 26. I think it's already over.
9:51The Patriots, the team that'll burn really bright and then get blown out and like just fizzle out and personal failure.
9:57No, I, there's a lot of big personalities in this team.
10:01Yeah. I mean, you know what I mean? Malik neighbors is, I mean, he was tweeting about coaches throwing games sometimes during
10:07the lions law overtime game that the giants played.
10:10And then like deleted it immediately. Malik neighbors tweets and live streams.
10:13Cam Scadaboo is always live streaming saying dumb shit.
10:16Like Abdul Carter tweets a lot. All you guys are really online.
10:20I still think athletes and everything now with athletes and what they say.
10:23It's just what I always go back to Michael Irvin stabbed the guy in the neck during training camp.
10:29And then no one even found out for years.
10:32The bulls didn't have the internet. Yeah, exactly. Imagine if Michael Jordan had a fucking burner.
10:36Can you imagine? Like, Oh my God. He's tweeting out like the bulls are a traveling cocaine circus or whatever and it's fucking burner.
10:43Um, but no, it's just, it's a giants of a lot, but I don't know.
10:48I'm concerned. The defensive tackles Lawrence and Roy Robertson Harris being gone like Thanos snap.
10:52And then Malik neighbors having the issue. Yeah. I'm a little concerned.
10:56Question for you. High hits. Does the fact that the Knicks went are going to the finals smooth all this out?
11:02Like tell, I wanted a hundred percent. Yes. Let's get some positivity going here.
11:06They sucked all the good vibes from the giants.
11:09I don't give a fuck. I first of all, we can actually talk about this.
11:13Now the giants are dead, but who cares? The Knicks might win the finals.
11:17So the NBA, we can actually talk about this because the finals are June 3rd, Wednesday, and this is going to come up Monday.
11:24I will say the, we recorded this Tuesday last night, the Knicks beat the brakes off the Cavs.
11:30I have to say, I don't, I look, we'll see if the Knicks win the finals, whether they do or not.
11:36I don't know if I've ever rooted for a team that has ever had as good of a stretch as they just did like that.
11:43They, they, they have the Knicks just had the best point differential of any 11 game stretch in the history of the NBA regular season or playoffs.
11:51I understand that the East is a little weaker, but they did it during the playoffs, which is crazy.
11:57And they actually, I've never rooted for a team that absolutely broke the will of every team.
12:02They played for three rounds in a row. They were up 50 points on the Hawks in the first half, which had never been done.
12:09Like they just absolutely obliterated the Sixers and they made the Cavs quit in every single game.
12:14I've never, I actually was so happy watching the Knicks play.
12:17We'll see what happens in the finals, but like they have stolen the will to compete from every team they played.
12:23It's fucking sick. They've won 11 straight. They, and their only two losses were by one point each to Atlanta.
12:29Yes. So they've literally, they've, they're only losses that have been by combined two points and their wins are like by 600 or something.
12:36If you add it all up, the Knicks are cool because not only is like the celebrity row at Knicks games right now at MSG is so sick.
12:44It's like Stiller and Chalamet and Spike Lee vibes are great there.
12:48And the Knicks themselves. I just feel like the Knicks are so likable.
12:52And I, the Carmelo Knicks, when they were kind of making a run, they were not that likable of a team.
12:58This team is like the only team in the NBA that feels like a college team.
13:03I know there's the whole Villanova thing, but like even outside of that, the way they play, MSG just feels old school.
13:09I feel like I'm watching Oracle 15 years ago.
13:12It's just fucking awesome. And everyone seems like they're on the same page.
13:16They know their roles. It's just great vibes. Craig, I was going to say the same thing.
13:21As someone who is not plugged into the NBA at all, like watching the crowd reactions to things that the Knicks do.
13:27I'm like, damn, this is old 90s NBA where the just the feeling in the stadiums was electric.
13:32Obviously, maybe it still is, but whatever. That's just how it felt to me.
13:37I was like, damn, this is like nostalgic watching the Knicks.
13:40And like Jalen Brunson is an amazing player. Like the things he does.
13:44I don't know. It's just a lot of fun to watch.
13:47This is coming from someone who doesn't really know anything about the NBA.
13:51The Knicks. I love the Knicks too, because it is a reversion to almost a pre free agency era NBA where it's
13:57almost a reversion back to its chemistry and culture over this mercenary era of like, we'll just go and get that.
14:03No offense, Craig, but the Durant to the Warriors and the idea we'll get a big three and everything.
14:09And then to have, I mean, look, honestly, Josh Hart and Brunson, they have the podcast called roommates.
14:14You watch the press conferences and you see why they're succeeding where it's like, they actually are friends and there's no like
14:21work awkwardness, like the culture and like putting Towns into the culture of the Nova thing where they won a championship.
14:27You've seen Carl Anthony Towns have this like seriousness that frankly kind of lacked.
14:31I don't know. They're fucking awesome to watch. I love everyone.
14:34I think loves this. But when a New York team is scrappy, I think that's kind of like everyone's favorite kind of
14:41team to watch when you have an awesome offense that also is like out physical.
14:45Like you're just more physical and you kind of want rebounds more than everyone.
14:49That's kind of the most fun team to root for.
14:52And yeah, they might get waxed in the finals.
14:55But if you're ever going to ask for a shot when you get a sweep and you get nine days off and
15:01the Thunder and Spurs are beating the shit out of each other, then yeah, it's the Knicks might win the championship like that.
15:08I never thought I'd say that my entire life.
15:11Also don't pretend like if the best player in the NBA was like, what can I sign with the Knicks that the Knicks wouldn't be like, yep.
15:19Like you'd be like, they would never sign Kevin Durant in his prime.
15:22Yeah, but Craig's like, how dare you? That was a stray.
15:26I'm not going to let that. I don't even need to respond because everyone knows who they feel.
15:31It's like, I'm just saying. Like everyone. I'm not saying it's cool that it happened, but like, don't pretend as if pick
15:37Jokic next year is like, can I go to the Knicks that the Knicks would be like, it's not the right fit.
15:44No, of course not. But like put it this way.
15:47I don't put an asterisk on like the Warriors titles, but when other people put half of one, I'm like, I don't even argue.
15:54I'm like, yeah, it was weird. That was weird that that happened.
15:57Can they also get an asterisk on the 2020 2016 loss or no, that's not an asterisk.
16:02We didn't have to rant. Yeah. The asterisk is you blew it.
16:06You know what? DK doesn't give a fuck. Because Draymond got suspended.
16:09There's no. Draymond has ruined all benefit of the doubt.
16:12No, that's that one. Absolutely not. That was just bubbling.
16:15Heifetz. Stefan Bogut incredibly injured. Okay. Yeah, no, we don't have to talk about that.
16:20Okay. With that said, anything else? Sorry. We just spent 10.
16:23DK's out here saying Malik Davis will never be the fucking same.
16:26And you're upset that I talked about your team that won three titles nine years ago.
16:31Anyway, with that said, not a dynasty, the record breakers.
16:34I want to go through this. Six finals in eight years.
16:37No, they won four of them. It's what you, why did you say three?
16:41You didn't even mention the fourth 2022 means nothing to you.
16:45Okay. That's the best one. Durant list. Why is that the best one?
16:49Uh, anyway, that's one. Cause Steph won an MVP.
16:51That's why the cemented the dynasty in my opinion.
16:54It's a dynasty. The, I want to go through this and I do like this exercise.
16:59Cause I think that we talk a lot about upside and it mattering, but I do think you're done with the giants.
17:05We're off the giants. You tell me, is there anything else?
17:08Oh, I guess to your point, I do think it probably helped.
17:12I do think the giant stuff would be a bigger deal.
17:15If the Knicks had been eliminated. Yeah. If they'd not made the playoffs, the Knicks being in the finals has absorbed everything.
17:21Uh, cause there's no Nets fans. It's like New York has two hockey, two basketball, two baseball, two football.
17:27Like the one roots for the fucking Nets, man.
17:30Let me ask you this. The New York giants win total seven and a half.
17:34How do you feel about that right now? I think that the rush to crown next year's Patriots has been really overrated for a variety of reasons.
17:42I feel like I'm going to pick them to finish last in the NFC East.
17:46The now. Yeah. Cause of which one neighbors. I mean, neighbors is a big deal.
17:51The interior defensive line. And now I'm just kind of like, oh, I think this offense might struggle much more than I,
17:57I thought it would be okay enough. And dart would progress in his second year enough to make this offense exciting and, and decent.
18:04And now I'm like, oh, this might be a real growing pain season.
18:08Once again, just because of the lack of health on the offensive side of the ball.
18:13I'm it's not hard. Look, obviously the giants could be good.
18:16Cause I think Jackson's are it's good. And even with the mobility, he can play from the pocket.
18:21And I'm convinced of that. Yeah. It's not hard to envision next off season saying, well, you know, Todd, John Harbaugh really
18:28wanted Todd Monk and to be the offensive coordinator.
18:31And Todd Monk and led to Lamar's best seasons of his career and MVP awards.
18:35And then Todd Monk and got the Browns job.
18:38And so they had to kind of scramble and hire Matt Nagy.
18:41And then they brought Greg Roman back and Greg Roman.
18:44You know what I mean? Greg Roman, Matt Nagy is the offensive staff.
18:48Brian Callahan. Should we be shocked that 2026 didn't go well with Malik neighbors coming off this injury?
18:53I mean, it's not weird to me to think that the giants would be overrated.
18:58I also think the idea of, well, who's this year's Patriots?
19:01And I'm like, this is the same thing to me as we need a Debo Samuel in this year's draft, or we need a McCaffrey.
19:08You mean the thing that doesn't happen very often?
19:11Like the Patriots, they could be this year's Patriots.
19:13The team that goes from worst place to has the easiest schedule in the NFL and makes a super bowl.
19:19Like that doesn't fucking happen all the time. Well, I don't think it's like 12 games.
19:24I think it's more like, I mean, every year there is usually like, I don't know the commanders the year before that, like there is usually every year.
19:32There usually is a team that like over exceeds expectations by four wins.
19:36That does usually happen once every year or two.
19:39DK, what do you think? Because when I look at the giants, I just keep thinking about how everyone's like padding and
19:45the giants on the back for the Dexter Lawrence trade.
19:48And I'm like, okay, well, I think they gave up a top five defensive lineman in the NFL for Maui Noah, who
19:55I like, but also like that will be bad in 2026 before it's good later.
19:59He's also starting out at guard. Yeah. I'm like, they traded defensive tackle for a guard who is a herniated disc.
20:05I don't think that's a good September move. I lean the under on seven.
20:09What was it? Seven and a half. Yeah. I lean the under.
20:13Sorry. It's I love that. It's may under. Sorry.
20:16Vibes are horrific right now. We'll see how that changes going forward.
20:19Also the schedule, the Cowboys week one, then they play the Rams and then the Titans, which is versus Brian Dable, which
20:26if you lose to that one, that, that, that one's kind of tough.
20:29And then the Cardinals are in week four, which God, if they better beat the fucking Cardinals, but like, um, yeah, I
20:36think the Harbaugh factor and like what, how big of an impact that makes is the thing that I'm grappling with.
20:42And I'm not sure on, it's one of those where everyone's everyone agrees that it's a great move, but, and no one
20:48ever, including us really mentioned how much the Ravens fans were fine to let John Harbaugh go.
20:53So yeah, which is, we'll see. We'll see if he can prove them wrong.
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21:45I want to get to this record breaker thing, which again, it's just the idea that like someone came back and told
21:52us that this record is going to get broken this year and we'd be shocked.
21:56And I want to start with a record that we almost talk about.
22:00Don't talk about enough in a player that I think doesn't get his flowers, if you will, which is LaDainian Tomlinson who I'm curious what you think, Craig.
22:08I think LaDainian Tomlinson is the single best player from my childhood with the ratio is completely off and how much he's discussed.
22:15LaDainian Tomlinson is the best running back of my youth period.
22:18And then Adrian Peterson replaced him. But I feel like you hear about Adrian Peterson all the time.
22:23You hear about Barry Sanders, even Walter Payton. Tomlinson just gets erased, even though he averaged a touchdown a game for like nine years.
22:30A hundred percent agree. He is the reason I think I fell in love with fantasy football was LT.
22:36He, I had a, the first jersey I ever bought, which makes no sense was a number 21 Chargers jersey just because.
22:43Really? Yeah. Cause he was just like the fucking coolest.
22:45He was throwing touchdowns, catching touchdowns and running touchdowns all in the same game.
22:50I mean. Great touchdown celebration. Iconic. Yeah. The visor.
22:52Yeah. The visor. He looked awesome. I think he's why I think 21 is the coolest running back number.
22:58Um, that 2006 season, let's go through it. He had 455 fantasy points, which if you, it's easier to understand what that
23:04means in terms of fantasy points per game, 28, 20 points per game.
23:08LT was putting up on a, he ran for 1800 yards, 28 touchdowns.
23:12He, he, he had another 500 yards receiving. He caught three touchdowns and then he threw two more.
23:17So we have 33 total touchdowns that season. That's fucking crazy.
23:20Yeah. I mean, there was no more guarantee inside the red zone than LT will score in some fashion.
23:26He averaged over two touchdowns a game. Yeah. Think about it.
23:29Think about how many people in that year had him and didn't win their fantasy league, like 12%.
23:35Yeah. Like how could you not win with that guy on your team?
23:38This is the one that's going to be the hardest to break.
23:42Like the, like, honestly, that's really the answer DK.
23:45What you just said, which is, I don't know if there will ever be a season like this, where the gap between
23:51the dating Tomlinson and the next best player is like, you basically were automatically in the finals.
23:56If you draft the dating Tomlinson, like the league was over with the first pick.
24:00No, one's really even gotten close. That's the thing.
24:03Like it would be, it, it pretty much has to be a running back.
24:07If you look at, uh, I went through and I looked at like the best fantasy performances, removing quarterbacks over the last
24:14like 20 years, uh, the, the top 18, 17 of them are running backs.
24:18The only, the only one is Cooper cup who is seventh, um, which is extremely impressive.
24:23So it would have to be a running back.
24:25And it really has to be a blend of like, they're clearly the best player on the team.
24:30They have a great situation that red zone. There's like no one else, but them.
24:35I mean like Jonathan Taylor was on a tear a little bit last year, but even he was not on an LT pace.
24:42I don't know what we'd have to see if like, you know, David Montgomery's gone and Detroit for like Jameer Gibbs to just become an absolute maniac.
24:50But I almost think like the, the, the, the lions pass too much.
24:53And it, it, it's just remarkable that somebody like LT was able to do this in a season.
24:59It doesn't make 33 touchdowns is ludicrous. The crazy thing about his season actually had 31 touchdowns on not throwing.
25:05Right. Right. Um, and that came the year after Sean Alexander set the record for most touchdowns ever, which was 28 at the time.
25:12This used to be a thing when Craig and I were kids and DK, you were older.
25:17Like it, this was the record that fell every year.
25:20It was the rushing touchdown record. It was priest Holmes did it.
25:23And then it was Sean. And then you got 2003 and then Sean Alexander did it.
25:28And then let Danny Tomlinson did it and then just put it away.
25:32But like that record was in pace every year and you heard about it every week.
25:36And it wasn't like hyperbole. Like you actually would count up a running back whether they could do it and you kept
25:43track and then they would break the record, which I just feel like doesn't happen anymore.
25:47Well, that was the golden age. I mean, if you look at it, I'm looking at the records now.
25:53I have it's in priest Holmes did in 2002 and 2003.
25:56That's so cool. Set new records for most touchdowns.
25:59Marshall Falk had the record in 2000 for 26 total touchdowns.
26:02So yeah, it was, it was like the early two thousands were the true golden age, especially like in fantasy of running
26:09backs where they're just scoring a ton of touchdowns.
26:11Teams are not using any other guys. Quarterbacks didn't run.
26:14Like the problem is, Derek Henry is a name that I put would have thought of as the guy who could break this.
26:21But I'm like, even just, even though Lamar is not, doesn't run quite the same as he used to.
26:27Like just because of that, I don't think Derek Henry is going to have, could get to 28 touchdowns.
26:32Also Derek Henry doesn't catch any passes. It's really unique that LT was able to run that many and still be like
26:39really good in the LT had a season with a hundred catches.
26:42I believe like he fucking could do everything. It's insane.
26:45And it's all, and the thing about Derek Henry doing it is the truth is Derek Henry is not a great short
26:52yardage back, which is the funniest part. Is he really like, Oh yeah, we got into that.
26:57We've talked about that, but like Saddam's statue, get him before the head of steam.
27:01It's like Saddam Hussein statue, just toppling just like the dictator statue.
27:05If there's one yard to gain, like I would rather give the ball to 20 other guys.
27:10It's honestly, Derek Henry has so much in common with LeBron James.
27:13He's not like the greatest of all time in this sport, but the way that they age is incredible.
27:19They're clearly different. Like Derek Henry could go on and on and the jokes about LeBron going on forever.
27:24And yet if you had a free throw to win a game, like I actually wouldn't pick LeBron.
27:30I might pick four or five other players on his team every year other than LeBron.
27:34And Derek Henry is the same way. I'm like, I don't know if I want him to do this right now, but
27:41I will say, I think the more likely thing I'm bringing them the Daneen Thomas and the total fantasy points, which I
27:47don't know if we'll ever be broken, is the Eric Dickerson has the rushing yards record still for it's like 2,105 yards.
27:54Saquon kind of could have gotten a couple years ago in 17 games and he didn't really go for it.
28:00Nine guys have hit 2000, which if you're being honest, 2000 yards is almost the number hitting two K's cool.
28:05And then the record record would be cool, but it's almost like gravy.
28:09And I was the list of guys who could hit 2000 yards feels robust.
28:13Like there are a lot of guys that could do it.
28:17We're in a good spot right now with running backs.
28:20I think you could realistically say that Jameer Gibbs, B.
28:22John Robinson, especially now that Algier and David Montgomery are gone.
28:26Jameer Gibbs, B. John Robinson, Derek Henry, Saquon McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor.
28:29I think all those guys could hit 2000 and I wouldn't be shocked.
28:33You could probably even add a couple more, but I think those are like the first tier.
28:38You know, it's so funny. I was going through the list.
28:41DK. I don't know if you want to stump for the old guys.
28:45I was going through the list here and I was like, Derek Henry had the 11th most rushing yards in a season ever.
28:52Two years ago. I know like he had 19.
28:54He almost Derek Henry almost at 2000 yards a second time in 2024.
28:58He is the perfect example of a modern era running back who gets used like an old school era running back in
29:04terms of just they're not afraid to feed him the rock at all.
29:08I mean, I looked at just the past five years in terms of running back carries per game and Derek Henry owns the top two.
29:16Obviously, he averaged 27 carries a game in 2021 20 almost 22 carries a game in 2022.
29:21He also is number nine and number 18 on that list.
29:24Last year, he averaged 18 carries a game. I think if you look at what the only the only issue with Henry
29:30that I see right now is that he's on the same team as Lamar Jackson, who's going to run a lot.
29:37But if they decide not to run him or try and switch the way that they're going to play him and basically
29:43he's not part of the designed run game quite as much anymore.
29:47I feel like Henry has a really good shot at this because he's the proven volume, the proven durability at volume, the
29:53breakaway speed, the type of offense that you want to be in his backups right now are Justice Hill and Rasheed Ali.
29:59Like they're not going to give heavy carries to those guys.
30:03Those guys, I think, are change of pace guys at best.
30:06So Derek Henry to me looks like one of the favorites.
30:09I think if you're leaning towards anyone else in this list, it would be Jonathan Taylor, which I know is not like really breaking news.
30:17Yeah, because same deal. They're in a they're in an offense that wants to be balanced.
30:21They want the run game to be the foundation of what they're doing.
30:25They're going to do. They're going to go into the season looking to protect Daniel Jones and Daniel Jones doesn't run nearly as much as Lamar Jackson.
30:33And I mean, Taylor 20 22 carries per game almost in 2024 20 carries per game in 2021 19 carries per game last year.
30:40So he's up there 18 to 20 21 carries per game.
30:43And he again has almost no competition. It feels like you think Giddens and Seth McGowan.
30:48The way I look at it is like you almost have to build your way up to get there.
30:54And it's like Jonathan Taylor led the league in carries last year and they did.
30:58They did have like 500 more yards this next year than like last year after.
31:02Well, I just their their offense fell apart. Yeah, through week 10.
31:06He was on pace for 1900 yards and he was and he was again the fact that Taylor didn't reach 20 touch.
31:12He was going to be the first running back to get to 20 touchdowns never mind 30 and like forever.
31:18But I guess I it's just a Rorschach test and how you look at the Colts.
31:23I just look at the Colts as a team declining.
31:26I don't think they're going to be as good as they were in September and October of last year.
31:32And I do think that Colts team probably peaked with Jonathan Taylor having 50 fantasy points running like honestly, like 20 24
31:38sake one and get the three touchdowns game. Yeah, like he was having he had three hot he had three hat tricks
31:44in the first half of the season. That probably won't happen again.
31:48I look at it more as like skating where the puck is heading.
31:52Be John Robinson or Jameer Gibbs, and I love Jameer Gibbs.
31:55But even though I have Gibbs still rank kind of first for fantasy season, but we've talked about 2000 rushing yards.
32:01I kind of think it'd be be John and I look at B.
32:05John Robinson is a guy like they have Brian Rob.
32:08They have Brian Robinson, which is going to be annoying all season to have to be Robinson's.
32:13Yeah, but I kind of just think if B.
32:16John gets 80 plus percent of the carries. I wouldn't really be shocked because he has like everything you need at a
32:22running back and I wouldn't be shocked to be John at 2000.
32:26Like I could just see him just kind of go for it because I could he could have multiple 200 yard games.
32:32Who's the dark horse? I think there were Henry at 31.
32:35Oh, Jen G. He's an interesting one since he felt like a offense.
32:39Yeah, I'm looking at James Cook. I know that he led the NFL in rushing last year, but like in that offense.
32:46They don't again. They don't have a ton of competition.
32:49Can he just do a Chris Johnson styles 2000 yard season and surprise everyone James Cook leading the NFL in rushing yards?
32:55And we're like wouldn't even consider him probably does make him.
32:58He has to be the dark horse. You just you honestly need a lot of carries like the problem is it's just
33:05rare that these guys are getting more than like 300 carries these days.
33:09There was four players last year who had over 300 carries when you're looking at all these all time seasons.
33:14These guys had like 340 370 390 like they are getting almost 100 more carries than everyone nowadays, even though they're playing an extra game now.
33:22So you really have to cut that. That's why Jenty to me you have to game it out and think like who
33:29could truly get 320 340 360 carries this season?
33:31I mean the final say just to say one the year that he had 2000 yards and the Eagles made the Super Bowl won the Super Bowl.
33:39Sick one had 60 carries in the final two games like literally at 29 for 150 and then he had 31 carries
33:46for 167 and then like for the final week of the season.
33:49Like James Cook led the league in rushing last year 1620 yards, but he only had 309 carries.
33:54So it's like he was running for over five yards a clip, but you just need more carries to get to he needed 400 more yards.
34:02So that kind of leads into the next conversation here, which is the receiving yards record, which is Calvin Johnson with a thousand nine hundred to 64.
34:10And he did that 20. I mean, I think first of all the leaderboard.
34:14I think it's where we're gonna like who could do this next?
34:18Well, the top two players on the list are Matt Stafford guys.
34:21It's Calvin Johnson 2012 Cooper Cup 20 2021 triple crown.
34:24So it's like Puka to go is probably the answer if Stafford's got the top two marks ever for receiving yards.
34:30It's also pretty crazy if you flip it to the coaching.
34:34If you look at five of the 10 best fantasy performances of the last 15 years.
34:38So the five of the top 10 of the last 15 years have come from Sean McVay or Kyle Shanahan.
34:44Yeah, yeah, there's a thing about there's thousands of thousands and five of the top 10 are Kyle Shanahan and Sean.
34:50Well, if you hold that list, you can add even more because if you count Kevin O'Connell from that tree, that's a Justin Jefferson season or two.
34:58And if you count Clint. No, he's not there.
35:01Jefferson is not. No, I'm saying of the last 15 years.
35:04Oh, wow. OK, it's quite remarkable. I receive. Well, the receiving one's funny because it's been a shift because I mean, Jackson.
35:11It sounds I know it sounds insane to me like who could break the receiving yard.
35:15Well, I mean, Jackson Smith and Jigba was like 150 off last year.
35:19Like he had the eighth most yards ever in his season.
35:22Tyree Hill was close a couple of years ago.
35:25He was sniffing around eight of the top 16 marks ever for receiving yards or by active players, which I think is interesting.
35:32Like literally half of the top 16 receiving yards ever are active players.
35:36And then but what's interesting about it is it started with what we were saying about rushing guys like volume where it's like Calvin Johnson.
35:43He had like 770 routes the year that he had the most receiving yards ever.
35:47And like that happens. But then like Tyree Kill kind of came close on like 500 routes.
35:52Tyree Kill, like the efficiency's gotten crazy. And that's what's happened.
35:56So Jackson Smith and Jigba and basically yards per route run is going up as more tight ends are on the field, which is a whole thing.
36:03But basically Puka Nakua and Jackson Smith and Jigba basically when you're passing and there's multiple tight ends on the field, you're getting bigger plays out of it.
36:12And so that's kind of what's happening. And so this one actually I think is the of all the things we're talking about.
36:18I think a 2000 yard receiver is the most possible.
36:21And I think it's the typical people. I think it's Puka if he gets has his head on straight.
36:27JSN or honestly, Jamar Chase. I actually those are the guys that I think if you told me one of these fell,
36:33I think one of those guys would get 2000 yards before these other records happen.
36:38Yeah, for me, the Puka Nakua one is just sort of obvious.
36:41It's a combination of Sean McVay, who is a proven kingmaker and Matt Stafford, who is a proven kingmaker.
36:47Just the way that those two guys, the way that they play the game and coach the game like we know with McVay, he's he likes trusts.
36:55If he trusts someone, he's going to feed that person.
36:58It's going to be a funnel offense through that person.
37:01We saw that for years with Kyron Williams. We see that with Cooper Cup.
37:05We see that with all the receivers. In addition to the fact on the Rams, the Hivitz, you kind of poked at
37:11this a little bit, but it was with the two tight end and three tight end sort of formation stuff that the Rams are doing.
37:19When you have two tight, if you have two receivers out there, that those two guys are more likely to get the
37:25ball at a higher rate because they're not there's not competition from the slot receiver or whoever.
37:30So it's just they're going to feed Puka Nakua.
37:33He's going to be a huge part of this offense, obviously.
37:36And then if Devontae Adams gets hurt, I mean, all bets are off.
37:40Puka Nakua could have an all-time season out receiver.
37:43There was a great piece in fantasypoints.com about the upside of drafting wide receivers on teams that primarily run two wide receiver sets versus three.
37:50And just the raw numbers of target volume when there are just two wide receivers in the field versus two.
37:56I recommend. I think it was Ryan Heath, but I could be wrong.
38:00Go check that out. But I do agree. Puka, despite the offseason problems, probably by low.
38:04Like if you actually look at last year, Jackson Smith and Jigba did lead the league in receiving yards, but Puka led
38:11the league in receiving yards per game. He missed a game.
38:14Puka is the all-time NFL leader in receiving yards per game.
38:17Right now. Literally all time. He averaged 107 last year, which would have paced for over 1800 yards.
38:23So it probably is him would be first pick.
38:25I think you always have to throw in Jamar Chase.
38:28He had 1700 yards two years ago. I fucking love him.
38:31He should probably be my 101. It's an even year for the Bengals, so we know that's going to be big.
38:38And then I feel like Justin Jefferson with Kyler Murray, there's like an outside chance that like, you know, DeAndre Hopkins' first year with Kyler was huge.
38:45It was like the best year of DeAndre's career, like 1500 yards.
38:49There's a world in which that works, and it's just like three flies up with Kyler Murray and Justin Jefferson.
38:55Those would probably be my top three. JSN, I'm a little worried that with the Kubiak exit.
39:00I totally agree. And I think it's worth knocking JSN a notch below just because when you're nitpicking at the best players,
39:06like, well, one of them lost their play car and one still has Sean McVay or one still is, you know what I mean?
39:13That is a difference. The Puka thing, what do you think?
39:17I feel like Puka almost is like the receiver version of me of Christian McCaffrey in that I've talked about this a
39:23lot, but Christian McCaffrey, I do think, is the most boom-bust player of all time.
39:28Like, he's basically won you your league or made you the finals three or four of the last eight years, and the
39:34other four years he ruined your season. Puka feels like he could be that this year where it's like he could get
39:40hurt because he has no sense of self-preservation. Stafford could hurt his back, and clearly the Rams are worried about Stafford's back
39:47a little because they took Ty Simpson. Like, there's, but, and obviously Puka's having a bizarre offseason and, like, maybe he's not so locked in.
39:54But every week that Puka plays locked in and everyone's healthy, he's probably the number one receiver in all of fantasy football,
40:01like, every single week and could break all these records.
40:04And so, if you are like, well, the only, I don't care about a last place punishment, I just want to win my league.
40:11You could argue that Puka should be the first pick.
40:14Yeah. 1964 feels very breakable. I'm surprised it hasn't been broken.
40:17Yeah. I think it will, that's why I talk about it a lot.
40:21I think players want, again, Tyreek Hill really kind of had a better season than Calvin Johnson did a couple years ago.
40:27Like, in 2023, Tyreek Hill averaged almost 50% more yards per route than Calvin Johnson did.
40:32But the Dolphins were winning by so much that they just stopped past, the Dolphins had the fewest pass attempts in the fourth quarter that year.
40:40But the Lions had the most that season because the Lions were always losing, which is also part of it where you're
40:46like, well, who's going to be losing? It needs to play.
40:49That's where I'm like the Bengals or the Cowboys.
40:52There's shootouts. Yeah. And I look, I mean, the next one here, we have Peyton Manning, like basically passing touchdowns, passing yards,
40:58which is both the 2013 Broncos with Peyton Manning.
41:01And that one I look at is maybe that one's in range where it's like, what if Dallas's defense sucks and Dak Prescott is on another level?
41:09You know what I mean? Or the Bengals. Like, what if Joe Burrow and Chase and Higgins, like Burrow and Dak are
41:15the only ones where I'm kind of like, maybe those guys could make it, but I don't know.
41:21Okay. Okay. Before we move on though, from Calvin Johnson and the, like the receiving yards record, I want to just take
41:27a moment to talk about Calvin Johnson because I think he's the coolest player I ever saw play football.
41:33Yeah. An alien. He Megatron. And he is, for how good he was, not that famous.
41:38Right. Yeah. Kind of like the Barry Sanders of receivers, honestly.
41:41The best I've ever saw with my own two eyes.
41:44And then he just retired. Well, and kind of like Tim Duncan, he just kind of disappeared.
41:49He's not really do, he doesn't do media. He's not like on ESPN.
41:53You don't really see a lot of Calvin Johnson, which I think is, even like just his last name being Johnson.
41:59Dude, there was that TikTok that was like the funniest thing I've seen in a long time and is a really difficult
42:05example of the place where we are in the world right now.
42:09This kid was watching highlights of Staffer on the Lions and he kept throwing touchdowns at Calvin Johnson.
42:14His kid was like, yo, who is 81? He was like, what?
42:17Earnestly. He like zoomed in. He's like, Johnson? Who is this guy?
42:21This guy's huge. This guy catches everything. This guy's pretty good.
42:24I'm like, holy shit. Are we at the point where young kids don't know who Calvin Johnson was?
42:30Fuck. Yes, we are, Craig. Calvin Johnson's literally like the word prototype.
42:33I think of Calvin Johnson. Just not even like receiver.
42:36I just think of prototype. Calvin Johnson's the prototype for the word prototype.
42:40What is your guys' version of that to your parents, you think?
42:43Where you're like, what's his name? Newman? And he was in movies?
42:47Oh, do you know he makes Oreos now? Paul Newman has Newmanos or whatever.
42:51Yeah, they're organic. And my friends are telling me they're better than Oreos.
42:55Oh. I don't believe that. I mean either. He said that Oreos will taste like sunscreen once you have a Newmano.
43:01Oh, man. Oh, God. And I was like, okay.
43:04I don't think that's true. I tried the Newman's own Fig Newtons.
43:07They're not as good as the real thing. You're saying, but Craig's your version of like, what is the thing that's insulting
43:14to, because it's not like Jordan's worse than LeBron.
43:16Like that doesn't count. It's the second best. It's like, who's like, you didn't even know who this guy was.
43:22I think for me, it would be like someone like Lawrence Taylor or something.
43:26If you go back and you're like, because I can't.
43:29I don't. I didn't watch Lawrence Taylor games growing up.
43:32Like really. And if I went back and I didn't really like know who he is, I think I'd be like, wow, this guy was really good.
43:40Holy shit. Or the guy from the Packers, the edge rusher who did the hump move.
43:45And I'm blanking on it. Reggie White. Yeah. Reggie White would be another one that I'm like, damn, this guy is freaking good.
43:52Who is this guy? I think the answer probably now, the answer probably now is like, I feel like Gen Z.
43:58Do they know who Joe Montana is? Because Joe Montana was Tom Brady before Tom Brady.
44:02By the way, we were doing a crossword puzzle, Skippy and I.
44:06And the question was, where is Tony Montana from?
44:09And Skippy thought it was Joe Montana that we were talking about.
44:12Okay. And I was like, it's Cuba. And she's like, he's from Cuba.
44:16I didn't. So my version of that is I always confuse Fred Durst and Robert Durst.
44:21Oh, okay. Which always makes it really awkward. No matter what conversation.
44:24Very different vibes. How often are you talking about Fred or Robert Durst?
44:28When the jinx was on? All the time. What's your lasting impression of, do you have one play in mind for Calvin Johnson?
44:35Because for me, unfortunately, I hate to say this.
44:37It's that play. He caught the ball and then ran into the net and they called it a no catch.
44:43And it was like this big controversy of the catch rule.
44:47It was like, that was bad. That's my, my, unfortunately, one of my lasting memories of Calvin Johnson is just him running
44:53into the, the, the net that goes behind the crossbar or like, you know, the kicker or whatever.
44:58That, that Lions fans hate that one. I think there was, he had a hail, not a hail Mary.
45:04He had a catch against the Bengals where I think there were, it kind of looked like what DeAndre Hopkins hail Mary
45:10became with the hail Mary where Calvin Johnson basically like was quadruple covered in the end zone.
45:15And he just caught it all over, like over four different, like the entire Bengals secondary.
45:20And I was watching it live and I had him on my fantasy team that year.
45:25And I remember like, it was like the, I don't think I can die.
45:29Like, I actually, I don't know if I have this job, if I didn't have Calvin Johnson on my fantasy team.
45:35And like, like when I was like, you know, 2012, a screenshot of Calvin Johnson lighting up wide and there's two saints guys just directly.
45:42Oh, that's an all time screenshot. He's true. And he looks like their older brother.
45:47He's going to win that rep too, for sure.
45:49Oh yeah. That is amazing. Yeah. It's, it's too bad because I think when Benyama has stolen all attempts at hyperbole forever
45:56between NB and Otani, I don't really like parody.
45:59Yeah. Yeah. It's, but Calvin, it felt like he was Wemby before Wemby.
46:02And he ran like a four, three at that size.
46:05Just the biggest freak of all time. Yeah. He, he was, he was basically the, what if the tallest player in football
46:12was the fastest and also like the most coordinated and strong and smooth.
46:16All right. He was, yeah, it's everything you say about prime LeBron was kind of applied to Calvin, but then his, but then you also Google his fingers.
46:24He's modern day Bo Jackson. Yeah. God. Oh, the lions.
46:27Okay. Anything else on any other Calvin or while we're at it, anything else about Tomlinson or any of the other guys who discussed any of those?
46:35Do yourself a favor and go watch that video of that kid, not knowing who Calvin John is.
46:40Who is 81? Who is this guy? Email us the best version of that.
46:44I want to know what something, our version of like, we're like, who is that guy?
46:49Yeah. It's probably Jerry Rice. Like if you're watching old 49er games, you're like, who is this guy?
46:54But he's there. Like, you know, he's very famous though.
46:57When the Niners have games, he's like always on the sideline.
47:00I feel like, I don't know. He's on TV all the time.
47:04Yeah. I feel like he's, I don't know. I feel like, like, I don't know.
47:08I think, I mean, you could argue it's Tim Duncan.
47:11Dude, it probably is Tim Duncan. They're like, who's that guy whispering to Popovich during the Spurs games?
47:17Yeah. Who's that guy with an old guy? Yeah.
47:19But Duncan was the antithesis of flashy though. He was the most, he was like bank shots.
47:24Yeah. The only thing I think of with Tim Duncan is bank shots.
47:28Yeah. But like, you're like, who's that guy? You're like, oh, Tim Duncan who won five titles.
47:33He won two MVPs. I think, you know, one shy of Jordan.
47:37Oh, so boring. I mean, maybe for kids. I mean, it's tough when you just start going back in time.
47:42Duncan's a good one. Duncan's a good cause he's on TV and people.
47:46And also he didn't play with the dreadlocks. So he looks genuinely differently now.
47:50So you're probably like, who is that guy? Yeah.
47:53Duncan's probably the answer. Okay. The next one here, we're talking about again, if you kind of, someone came from the future
47:59and was like, this record got broken. We're like, who would have done it?
48:04And it's the Peyton Manning 2013 season with the Broncos where he had 55 touchdown passes and almost 5,500 passing yards.
48:10How'd that go in the Superbowl by the way?
48:12Yeah, you go. What do you think? Dead last?
48:15No, yeah, yeah. He had a good season, man.
48:18The Seahawks having two different Superbowls that kind of from the jump were just like, just destroyed everyone.
48:23Dominant. The two of the more boring Superbowls on, if you're not a Seahawks fan.
48:27The only way you can enjoy a football game, which is if your team just starts dominating immediately.
48:33Kind of like the Knicks. The Knicks isn't fun to watch because I don't want to pull my hair out the entire game.
48:39But even then, even when your team is killing the other team, it's still not that fun because there's 1% of you
48:46that's like, if we lost, this would be the worst.
48:49Yeah, the Falcons ruined it. I literally was, I was about to start posting on like Blue Sky about this Knicks game.
48:55And I was like, oh, what if they blew up by 20?
48:59Anyway, before we even talk about who could do it this year, I want to just mention Peyton Manning.
49:04This 2013 season, the thing that always just like stops my tracks is the idea that the Colts cut Peyton Manning because
49:11he had this neck injury to draft Andrew Luck because they got the first pick when Peyton Manning missed the year.
49:17And then at the outcome of all that was Andrew Luck functionally played like 29 or 30 total games after Peyton Manning retired.
49:24Like Peyton Manning retired and Andrew Luck basically had two seasons after Peyton Manning retired, which always just blows my mind considering
49:30Andrew Luck was basically as good as we thought he'd be.
49:34And he barely outplayed Peyton Manning time-wise. It's funny to look at the Manning season when he, 55 touchdowns, he was 37
49:40years old and second place most touchdowns thrown in NFL history is Mahomes in his first NFL season.
49:45Which just like that's so fucking funny that Mahomes was 23 through for 50 and then Manning at 37 through for 55.
49:52I already, I think, overlook the fact that Mahomes in his first season as a starter just threw for the second most touchdowns ever.
49:59This is why I'm over and over and I will, if I am wrong, I'm wrong.
50:04But this is why I think Brady might be serious about Fernando Mendoza not playing his first season because Patrick Mahomes will
50:10be one of the first people to tell you he wouldn't have thrown 50 touchdowns and played as a fucking rookie.
50:16Like, you know what I mean? He came up, but no, the Mahomes entry, I remember like that was my first season
50:23working at the Ringer or I guess, well, no, actually, I guess I'm wrong.
50:27But like, I just remember when everyone started talking about Mahomes, I was like, come on, he can't keep this up.
50:33This has never happened before. I mean, of course.
50:36The answer, the answer is, is if anybody can somehow beat 55 touchdowns, it's probably Burrow or Dak, right?
50:41It's these like high octane offenses with bad defenses.
50:44Burrow's thrown 43 before. You have great wide receivers.
50:46These guys are not running like it's probably, and maybe Stafford.
50:50It's probably Burrow, Dak and Stafford. Yeah. Well, I mean, Stafford, if you look at last year, did you know, did you realize this?
50:57I don't know if I realized this, that Stafford's 46 touchdowns last year is the sixth most ever.
51:02Number six on the list. The other guys are Peyton Manning in 2013, Patrick Mahomes, as we mentioned, Tom Brady in 2007,
51:09Peyton Manning again in 2004, Rodgers in 2020, and then Breeze and Stafford at 46.
51:13That MVP aged well already. Oh my God. It aged like wine.
51:16Incredibly well. Incredibly well. Kind of like, yeah. I'm looking at this list though.
51:21And to me, the thing that kind of stands out is for the Manning year and for the Mahomes year, it was
51:27like off and then the Brady year. So the three guys that have thrown 50 touchdowns, it was like offenses that the NFL just wasn't ready for.
51:35Offenses that they just had no answer for. And, you know, with Manning, it was a lot of like spread stuff.
51:41And he just had an incredible skill player collection of talent.
51:44I mean, it was Demarius Thomas, Eric Decker, Wes Welker, and Julius Thomas.
51:48Yeah. And obviously with Mahomes, it was like, we just haven't really ever seen the type of offense they were running.
51:54With Brady, the 2007 offense was legendary. Heifetz, you could get a snipe in there if you want.
52:00How'd that Super Bowl go? I've heard this. It's funny that all, when is the, if you go down this list of
52:06passing touchdowns, when did somebody actually win the Super Bowl?
52:09Manning, no. Mahomes, no. Brady, no. Mostly because the offense, defense was championships.
52:13And so if you're throwing that much, it's probably because your defense isn't awesome because you're not really icing games.
52:19And that's why I do think those three teams are Rams, Bengals, Cowboys, because I think those are the only three teams
52:25that fit into the Venn diagram of could they conceivably do it with the quarterback and talent?
52:30Yes. Would they actually do it if they could?
52:33Because like even some teams, there's too much like the Bills.
52:36Maybe would Josh Allen maybe is capable of that maybe in his best year, but the Bills running is too much of their identity to even try.
52:44Whereas like the Bears, Ben Johnson, even if Caleb Williams became Aaron Rodgers, he wouldn't want to.
52:49Like the Bears want to run too much. I think the Bengals, Cowboys and Rams, like again, Sean McVay basically decided Devontae
52:56Adams was the goal linebacker last year. Like a lot of those are one yard touchdowns, like 13 one yard touchdowns.
53:02So I do think those three teams would try.
53:04I think the question is who's going to have the shittiest defense.
53:08I think the Bengals. That's what I was just looking at, Pfeiffer.
53:11I was literally just looking up. Who has the worst defense that could have a good offense?
53:16Dallas. Yeah. Dallas is kind of number one on that list.
53:20Cincinnati, as you mentioned. Washington, but that's not probably going to happen.
53:23Um, I could see the Bengals doing, I think the Bengals are going to win that division.
53:28I was starting to look at the schedule and looking at everything.
53:32I kind of think the Bengals are going to win the AFC North.
53:36I could see the Bengals winning a lot of games.
53:38It's an even year. I also think Dallas is also the kind of team that could take a leap for the not
53:45just sexy version of like Pickens and CD, but the offensive line is so young and a unit like that can take a big step forward very quickly.
53:53If everyone develops together and like if the Dallas offensive line, you suddenly look up and you're like, wait, is that a top five offensive line?
54:01When's Dallas offensive line? When did that get better than Philly?
54:04But if that were to happen, then yeah, I could, I could see Dallas having, I could see Dak having a crazy,
54:11crazy year, but probably not 55 touchdowns, but I don't know.
54:14I think Cowboys and Bengals are, could be that mix of offense and fucking scary.
54:18The Giants are not better than Dallas. Okay. Anything else on nostalgia?
54:22Peyton Manning. Manning really got mogged by Brady. That was a great year by Manning.
54:26I remember watching that offensive just being in awe.
54:29It was so much fun to watch. And it still holds like still the highest scoring team ever.
54:34I think Peyton came out and threw seven touchdowns in week one.
54:38Yeah. I mean, they've just diced people up. It was crazy.
54:41And again, he couldn't, we choked about this the other day.
54:44Peyton couldn't really throw that well. Like it was all, it was like, it was all what he was doing before the snap.
54:51That was the cool part of it. Worst part of his game.
54:54You know, it's just like identifying matchups and picking it apart.
54:58Yeah. Literally like by far the worst part of his game was throwing footballs.
55:02Yeah. It was kind of, it was a weird group too.
55:05It was like, I feel like all the guys, other than Wes Welker, I guess Demary Thomas was pretty good, but it's
55:11like Eric Decker had a weird career. Julius Thomas had a weird career.
55:15Even like the running backs, like no Sean Moreno.
55:18Was he the running back on that team? CJ Anderson?
55:21Who was it? It was weird. It was like, none of those guys were truly elite.
55:25You know, they were all good players, but it was all just like Manning fucking playing chess out there.
55:31Four guys with 10 plus touchdowns. And then Adam, Adam Gase gets the head coach job for the Jets.
55:37Cause he's like, I helped Peyton with, on that assignment.
55:40Was he the OC on that? I don't think he did very much.
55:43Yeah. I don't think he did very much, Adam.
55:46Okay. Um, the next one here, we just said, we put, we want to put rushing yards by a quarterback.
55:52Cause it feels different. Lamar Jackson at 2019, which DK, that was basically the first thing we ever did this podcast was
55:58you banged the drum for people to draft Lamar Jackson.
56:01Yeah. All season 2019. And Lamar then runs for 1200 yards, which just to put that in, I mean, first of Lamar 2019, won the MVP unanimously.
56:09Youngest unanimous MVP. I think since Jim Brown, also Lamar literally averaged the most fantasy points per game of any quarterback in any season, like ever for 2019.
56:18And, um, he went as like, what, he was a 10th, 11th, 12th round fantasy pick.
56:22So it was probably one of the best fantasy picks ever, but just to put the 1200 yards in context, no one got halfway there last year.
56:30Josh Allen had the most rushing yards for quarterbacks last year.
56:33He had like five, almost 580, which is not halfway to what Lamar actually did.
56:38So I, this, it is just Lamar himself who could do this and like maybe Malik Willis, but even that's kind of a theory.
56:45Yeah. I think Malik Willis is like a really interesting and fun sleeper for fantasy this year.
56:50I think he has the potential to just be a elite, elite fantasy player because of his running and he's really fast,
56:56really explosive and they don't have that many weapons in the passing game.
57:00So he might end up running a ton. I think we're kind of overlooking Jane Daniels a little bit here.
57:06Um, he feels like to me, a buy low or whatever the, um, post-type sleeper designation here, just because when he was
57:13a rookie, 891 rushing yards as a rookie, which I'm gonna look that up here.
57:17That's seventh most ever. Um, the guys, well, I'm looking at Mike Vick.
57:21So here's, here's, oh yeah, you're right. Seventh going back all the way, you know, if we're going to 19, whatever the
57:27sixties, it was Lamar Jackson as the most. He had 1200 yards, Justin Fields randomly in 2022.
57:32Second most, he had 1143 yards, Mike Vick, then two Lamar seasons, another Mike Vick season.
57:37And then Jane Daniels as a rookie, 891 rushing yards.
57:40I looked at that season and he had 148 rushes, rush attempts, which is second only to Jalen Hurts.
57:45And Jalen Hurts was rushing is very different than, than Jane Daniels.
57:49Um, but Jane Daniels had a league high 75 scrambles, which I think could be a variable that is important here.
57:55Jaden Daniels is also the argument to me to make fantasy have half PPR, half point per first down.
58:01Because when you watch Jane Daniels play, every time he runs, he's getting a goddamn first.
58:05It's like, it's just demoralizing for the defense. Yeah.
58:08Um, and he had 25 more scrambles than the second best quarterback that year, which was Bo Nix.
58:13And I think that's just a part of his game.
58:16You know what I mean? He, if he doesn't see something, he's going to take off, lean on his speed and get a first down.
58:24He had 65 design runs that year, which is a lot.
58:27But again, that 75 scrambles, I think there's an outside shot that Jane Daniels, even though they don't really want him to
58:33be running a lot, is going to be running a lot because he scrambles so much.
58:38Um, and so he's the guy that I would be looking at here.
58:42I think Malik Willis is, is obviously going to be a good fantasy pick because you don't have to spend a ton to get him.
58:49But I think Daniels, Jane Daniels clearly has more upside.
58:52If I DK, if I told you that last rookie season, Jane Daniels was basically the peak of his career.
58:58And it's like, actually kind of like RG three 2.0.
59:01And he's just not going to be able to be that good again, be that clutch, stay healthy.
59:06Or this is the cheapest you'll be able to get you in the end for five years.
59:11And he's actually, is that good? Which would you pick?
59:14I lean the latter. I lean the, you know, I think this, he has potential to get back to where he closer
59:21to where he was as a rookie. I think last year was just kind of a, you know, perfect storm of things
59:27that could go wrong and they all, and everything did go wrong.
59:31I think he, we saw what, what he was as a rookie was incredible.
59:35Um, so I still think he has that in him.
59:38And it did not feel fluky. Like when you watched him as a rookie, he, he felt, he felt mature and he
59:44felt like he, he was meant for big moments and was super comfortable in them.
59:49So I, whatever happened last year, I think is an aberration.
59:52I'm much more comfortable that he is the guy we saw his rookie year.
59:56The easy comparison is to look at like CJ Stroud's rookie year and then be like, oh, and he hasn't played as well since.
60:03Stroud's rookie year was overrated because he had a crazy touchdown interception ratio where a lot of picks were getting dropped.
60:09It was kind of ugly outside of like three games.
60:12Cause Jaden Daniels was unbelievable. He was borderline perfect.
60:15Yeah. He looked like the best numbers. He looked like again, yeah.
60:1820 of 23 on fourth down, but also just the walk-offs over and over and over again.
60:23I was the level of play was so much higher.
60:26The accuracy and everything. I do think he'll get back.
60:29And again, we were worried about the injuries coming out of college because again, he ran like came scatable with a blindfold basically.
60:36But like the injury that played Jaden Daniels got hurt on.
60:39I don't think it was reckless. It was a fluke.
60:42God damn play. He put his God damn arm down a brace himself.
60:46And it like, like, I don't know. I don't look at that as yeah.
60:50I actually thought his rookie or Jaden Daniels. When he gets hurt, he slender flame.
60:55Like the worst he's played was when he got, I think he bruised his ribs against the Panthers or something.
61:00And then he wasn't really the same for a couple of weeks.
61:04But I actually thought he protected himself as rookie or like a lot better than I thought he would, to be honest.
61:10So I think quarterback's interesting because you got Josh, you got Lamar, Drake, May, Jaden, whatever you want to do with Jalen Hurts.
61:17Dart. Dart. And like, I really do. Caleb Williams and Trevor Lawrence.
61:21And I'm like, I kind of would be happy with any of those guys.
61:25And then I almost think Malik Willis has to be ninth or tenth solely because I'm like, I don't know.
61:31He's the fastest quarterback. And I feel like there's 10 pocket.
61:34Bo Nick. I don't know if Bo Nick counts as mobile off an ankle injury.
61:38But like, there's like 10 pocket passes I can make the case for.
61:42And I kind of like Burrow and Dak are in there somewhere.
61:46But then it's like Purdy and Jared Goff and Stafford even.
61:49I don't know. I don't know what to do with those guys.
61:52Like when you have Burrow, Dak, Stafford, those are pocket passes worth it.
61:56But the Brock Purdy, Jordan Love, all these other pocket passes, Jared Goff.
62:00I'm like, when all those guys are like replacement level quarterbacks, I'm like, I don't.
62:05I'm just purely going for upside. Yeah. I'm like, I'll just take whatever fucking random pocket passer falls to me is like.
62:11Can I throw out Jackson Dart as a possibility to break the rushing record?
62:15Ooh. All right. 1,200 yards. Jackson Dart. His main stretch, which was like, whatever.
62:19Week 4 to 15, I'm looking at. He was averaging like 50 to 60 rushing yards a game, which is on average.
62:26That's like 900 for on a 17 game pace.
62:28And like the way the offense is kind of set up, his recklessness, his willingness to scramble.
62:33Maybe, maybe a very long shot Dart throw. Oh.
62:36Dart is the kind of quarterback I do think we should rank higher than other people solely because like, yeah, I don't
62:42know if he could get to 1,200, but like, I think you're right about the base math there.
62:48Like I could see also, you could see Dart having like 800 yards, 700 and like 11 touchdowns in his best possible season.
62:54He's going to be one of those guys. Remember we were talking about Aaron Jones a couple years ago where we were
63:01like, when he actually is starting and playing, like he'll be a top 10 running back, but nobody wants to rank him that way.
63:08I feel like when Jackson Dart plays in a game, he will be a top 10 quarterback.
63:13Yeah. Statistically in fantasy. It is. If you just, and also in fantasy, when you just look, the other reason to rank
63:19Dart high, if you just look at like, you just rank the top 13 quarterbacks.
63:24The point being that when you're in a 12 team league, one of those guys is not a starting quarterback.
63:30It's kind of insane to think how good the high quality, like the 12, like Kyler Murray in Minnesota is probably not
63:36going to be a starting quarterback in fantasy. It's kind of crazy.
63:40Like it's a high bar. Super flex. Yeah. Also DK, that list you read where Jaden Daniels is sevens all time rushing yards by a quarterback.
63:47Eighth is Russell Wilson. I know Russell Wilson at 849 yards.
63:51Pretty crazy. Russ almost needs to retire kind of like Aaron Rodgers so that we can go back to appreciating how incredible he was a long time ago.
63:59Russell was my favorite player to watch in like 2017 when he was doing everything.
64:03He was the most unbelievable player on a play to play basis.
64:07Oh, 100%, man. There's a reason I think Seattle fans still adore the guy, even though like the ending was a kind
64:13of, I don't know what the word is, not acrimonious, but it wasn't like the best way that the two people parted.
64:20But to me, Russell Wilson, early career Russell Wilson.
64:22I mean, you forget that he ran like a four or five and he was built like a running back and he
64:29was part of that there in that era. There was like Kaepernick, Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, a handful of other guys that
64:35were like pioneering sort of the rebirth of the read option.
64:39And man, I remember Russell Wilson when the Seahawks broke out their read option stuff for the first real time.
64:44I think this was like halfway through. I want to say the 2012 season and they're playing the Bears and like legitimately
64:51Wilson was just faking out Brian Urlacher and like, like breaking his ankles.
64:55And I was like, there's something different about this guy because like late in the season, they started doing that and then they started blowing guys out.
65:03They started blowing teams out like 50 to like seven to finish off the season.
65:07They were one of the hottest teams in the NFL to finish off the season.
65:12It was a big part because they started embracing the read option with Marshawn Lynch and the two guys together, Russell Wilson
65:18and Marshawn, just like the perfect combination for the read option because Marshawn was so good at basically taking a ball from
65:24the high post and like driving to the hoop.
65:27He had like the, the really sudden movement and like shake ability that you don't really see from running backs.
65:33He was not a downhill guy. He was, I'll make guys miss.
65:36And I was just perfect for the read option.
65:39So sorry, I'm reminiscing here, but like, that was so fun.
65:42That, that era was so exciting and it wasn't just Russ.
65:46It was like all the guys running all those read option looks and like everyone, all the old heads in the NFL were like, Oh, this won't last.
65:54But like, meanwhile, it was just like tearing up the NFL.
65:57You should have pulled out a cigarette, lit it up.
66:00Tomlin. I know. Fuck. That was good. You guys want to just name some guys from back in the day?
66:06Hell yeah, dude. Antoine Randall L. Frank Gore. Oh, you're going Steelers.
66:09Willie Parker. Willie Colon. Willie Parker. Rashad Mendenhall. Ahmad Bradshaw.
66:12Ooh, I loved him. He was the best. I love, dude.
66:16He, we don't talk about, he scored a touchdown by accident with his butt.
66:20Oh, I remember that. To win a Superbowl. Oh man.
66:23Also Derek Ward, the forgotten thousand yard rusher on the 2007 giant.
66:26So I said 3000 yard rushers in 2007. Lavernius Coles.
66:29Oh man. Good one. Good one. Santana Moss. Nice.
66:32Marcel Reese. Jericho Cottery. Oh. Jericho. Great. DeBricka Shaw Ferguson.
66:35DeBricka Shaw. Yeah. Where's going? Jets. Did you, I think DeBricka Shaw was the reason that Key and Peele's skit was invented.
66:41I think he was. I want to say I saw an interview with them and they were, and he was like the inspiration for that whole thing.
66:49I think he was. That's good. You got a names?
66:52Oh, we're going to keep going. I kind of, I actually.
66:55Joe Jura vicious. Oh, good one. That name is sick.
66:58That name is incredible. Joe Jura vicious. He sounds like a rapper.
67:02He's the size of a man who should be named Joe Jura vicious.
67:06Yeah. Peerless Price was also a great name. Peerless.
67:08Peerless. Plaxico Burress. Burress? Burress. How did you, how did you say his last name?
67:13Burress. Burress. Burress. Peerless. Giants were like undefeated when he shot himself in the leg, which that part gets left out that
67:19they were like, I still remember that literally. They should have gone back to back.
67:24They should have won again. Oh no. Had not lost the game basically.
67:27God. Also Steve Smith, the other one. Yeah. He had a good moment.
67:31He had a moment. Oh yeah. Yeah. Also, I have to shout out Victor Cruz who is, you know, a deep, deep cut, but also not.
67:39Guy that became a social media star. Like Victor Cruz was the one who's going to the Met Gala and like, that
67:45was not a thing for football players. And then Odell kind of just like, as they say in the rewatchables, like market corrected him.
67:52But Cruz did all that, got her. And then Odell kind of like took his life.
67:57Why did Cruz, one of my all-time favorite fantasy players.
68:00He was so, I had him that big year.
68:03He was the best. Dude, the Giants have had some really like aesthetically fun receivers.
68:07I was just thinking about Hakeem Nix. He was awesome too, man.
68:11You guys have, you've had some really good receivers over the years.
68:14Caught a Hail Mary in like the playoffs. Yeah.
68:17He was awesome. Like the division around Hakeem Nix just caught a halftime Hail Mary for a touchdown.
68:22So what are the most, I would say, Craig, you're bringing up, um, Victor Cruz.
68:26Miles Austin is the other kind of guy that came out.
68:30Oh yes. Just fantasy. Like, oh, who's this guy?
68:32Oh my God. What the hell? This is, is this real?
68:36This is real. Yeah. Miles Austin was annoying. I feel like I always drafted him the wrong fucking year.
68:41He's never right. He got paid, but yeah, that was annoying.
68:44Well, the other one, like I think on that note is, uh, Edelman and Welker.
68:49Hmm. Sure. Like that was also real. Like, I mean, even when Edelman kind of came up, it was like a meme.
68:55It was like just another white receiver. And then it was like the idea that he would be a Super Bowl MVP.
69:02It was kind of like hilarious. Remember Vincent Jackson?
69:04Oh, he was great. Who was Mike Evans kind of before Mike Evans?
69:08Was. Yeah. He was awesome. RIP. Did he die?
69:11He did. Unfortunately. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah.
69:13Oh, that's very sad. We're, we're getting older. Dude.
69:16Also, while I was looking up the rushing leader list, Jamal Lewis just randomly having like 2,100 yards is on Jamal Lewis.
69:23Peyton Hillis? Peyton Hillis. Peyton Hillis. Peyton Hillis on the cover of Madden?
69:26Oh, what could go wrong? The Bodie McBoatface of Madden covers.
69:30I can't believe they let us vote on that.
69:32That was so dumb. Ooh, Terrell Pryor? Dude, Peyton Hillis has 28, Peyton Hillis has 2,800 career rushing yards.
69:38Dude. Wow. That'll never happen again. One hit wonder.
69:41That's crazy. They let people vote once and they're like, white running back.
69:44I don't care if he's on Cleveland. The Terrell Pryor is a Hall of Fame like ahead of his time guy.
69:51Like Terrell Pryor now would just like, he could just.
69:53He had a thousand yards receiving one year. And then I remember he had the longest touchdown run of any quarterback ever.
70:00Well, he did a read option. 99 yard. I remember it was against the Steelers and he did a read option.
70:06And the Steelers were like, we haven't seen this in decades.
70:09Tomlin's like, we, yeah, we look forward to eliminating it.
70:12Terrell Pryor being told in the middle of his NFL career that you have to be a receiver and then actually getting 1200 yards is fucking crazy.
70:20I know. It's actually insane. Do you know how good of an athlete you have to be?
70:25It's not even like at the combine. They're like, listen, so I'm like, they tried to make him a quarterback.
70:31And then he pivoted in the middle of his career.
70:34Like that's impossible to ask of somebody. And then he, yeah.
70:37Honestly, he only stopped because he hurt his ankle.
70:40Like that really was what derailed him more than anything.
70:43He had, God, it's so funny. Look up guys like that because they're.
70:47I'm like trying to find his receiving. He had a thousand, not 1200.
70:51He had a thousand yards in 2016. But like, then he hurt his ankle.
70:55But like, that's crazy to be a thousand yard receiver at 27.
70:58When he had, he had one, he had two, he had two catches in his career.
71:03And then they're like, you're a receiver. And then he had a thousand yards.
71:07He's like, all right. Team player. Who is his quarterback that year?
71:112016. Fucking like Cody Kessler. Yeah. Cody Kessler, Josh McCown, Robert Griffin.
71:14I was so concerned. I knew that. I wish I knew other things than that.
71:18Cody Kessler. I also always, there's also, there's also, there's other guys like that you kind of thought would be good.
71:25It sucked. Like I always loved Troy Smith, the random Heisman owner from Ohio state.
71:29He's not. Oh yeah. He was small. Not really a guy, but yeah.
71:33Good players. Fun game. Maybe that'll be a thing.
71:36Maybe that's a, that's maybe a deep off season one, but I would love to do the ahead of their time team
71:42guys that would have been, they were kind of like too early.
71:46Terrell Pryor is like, like Warwick done. Yeah. Wow.
71:48Yeah. There was a lot of those guys. I like that.
71:51Okay. Email us if you have more examples like Terrell Pryor.
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72:44See you this summer. A couple emails to get out of here.
72:48Sure. Yeah. I lied. It's like three or four.
72:50First, I want to do an email here from Scott.
72:53Scotty. Scotty. Our last episode, we talked about like holiday games and we talked, we were complaining about how many holiday games
73:00there were during, you know, family time. And Scott wrote in with the subject line, anti-holiday game sentiment is happy family privilege.
73:06Sure. Which I thought was so funny. He said, I was listening to the schedule draft today.
73:11Got to the part where you're all complaining about having a Christmas Eve game.
73:15He's like, I don't get along with my family.
73:18Scott says, I'm a queer guy. Scott says, I'm a queer guy from a conservative family.
73:23Our get togethers always end in misery. And the one and only thing we can all do together without turning to a
73:29bitter shouting match about which uncle skipped the lesbian wedding is watching sports shoulder to shoulder.
73:34And he says, I welcome as many holiday games as possible.
73:37And you two with the happy families can handle a few games a year so that people like me with unhappy families
73:43don't have to talk to each other. I thought that was awesome.
73:47I think that's true. I mean, it's objectively very true.
73:50Yeah, very fair. It reminded me of something else, which I have honed in my adulthood, which is there are also board game families.
73:57Board game families are also happy families. Like, let me tell you something.
74:01If someone loves board games, they love their family.
74:03If the family doesn't like board games, then they've already broken up, you know, because they played board games together.
74:09My family, not a board game family. Every time we play Uno, we get in a fight.
74:14No, but that's the point, though. Uno. You play Uno and you get in a fight.
74:19That's like the only game we play. You play Uno and you get in a fight.
74:24Oh, I love Uno. Uno? How do you get in a fight playing Uno?
74:28What? It's not hard. DK, I feel like Uno is very famously, like, the most argumentative.
74:33Yeah. Dude, when you start fucking laying draw twos and draw fours on the guy next to you.
74:38You're, like, targeting. Someone's like, oh, really? You had nothing else?
74:41Show me your cards. Really? I witnessed. I was once the fifth wheel on a couple's Uno game.
74:46And I actually thought we were in the roof of an apartment in Palms, Craig.
74:51And I literally thought both couples were going to break up playing Uno.
74:55I was literally watching. Imagine being here for one couple fight.
74:58Both couples were having very serious arguments. Uno. If my family plays Uno, my brother and I have to sit across from one another.
75:05We cannot be next to each other. DK, I feel like Uno's famous for being the most aggressive argument game.
75:11I did not know that. Email us your Uno stories.
75:14I bet some fucking marriages have ended and people don't talk to siblings anymore over Uno.
75:18One of the craziest Uno stories. My family's game is Apples to Apples.
75:22You guys know that game where it's, like, you have cards and they have descriptive words on them?
75:28I have, like, I'm, like, world class at being really bad at that game.
75:32I'm maybe the worst player at Apples to Apples I've ever seen in my life.
75:36Name seven James Bonds. I don't know what that means about me.
75:40Maybe I just, like, can't read people whatsoever. I don't know.
75:43But, yeah, it's tough. Scott makes a good point.
75:45I will say, you know what else? A football game, dude, if you're at, like, a party and you don't really know
75:52that many people, like, it's, like, your wife's friend.
75:55Something to do. Dude, if there's a game on and you can just kind of stand with the other guys who don't
76:01really know anybody and just look forward but still talk to each other while watching football.
76:06All the end ones. The best. Yeah, Stafford having a good season.
76:09Yeah. All the plus ones that are there that don't know each other.
76:13Who are you a fan of? Cowboys. You're like, okay.
76:16Oh, yeah. Not bad. You know, they're looking pretty good.
76:19Pickens. Good. Yeah. Good season. Yeah. Offense, you know, Dak.
76:22Dak CD. Pickens. You just name guys. Yeah, you just keep naming guys.
76:26Jake Ferguson's not bad. Kind of a new one.
76:28Yeah. All right. I want. Email us, you know, stories.
76:31This one's from Emily. Emily. Craig asked. I don't remember which episode this was.
76:35He wanted examples of people who talk in real life in YouTube voice, if there are any.
76:40Oh. Because he said there's nobody. Emily writes in.
76:43My breakfast was two eggs, a whole wheat English muffin, turkey bacon, and coffee with Chobani creamer.
76:48Emily writes. I am a wife. One of the seven.
76:51Hell yeah. The seven. Seven. It's like the Van Buren voice.
76:54It's like seven. It's like. Pray to the seven.
76:57We're basking in the light. Emily says. I wanted to respond to your statement in your last episode that no one in
77:03real life speaks with a YouTube voice. What about Sean McVay?
77:07Hmm. All high energy, no rest, high pitch, rush cadence.
77:10Am I wrong? McVay's a blend. He's not full YouTube because he it's it's it's like such hardcore coach speak.
77:15But I know what she means. Yeah. Oh, 100%.
77:18If Sean McVay read Mr. Beast YouTube intros like it would kind of work.
77:22Yes. Yes. But McVay, his thing is that even when he's not coaching, he still speaks in coach speak.
77:28Like he is always kind of like that. Like if he was describing his breakfast in an email to us, it would
77:34be like real like he'd be breaking down every little tiny ingredient and two eggs, whole wheat English muffin placed it on on the plate.
77:42You know? Yeah. He'd be like two eggs. You want to get your protein?
77:46And I love that whole wheat. Whole wheat is a lot better than white with white bread.
77:51The turkey bacon. I'm trying to be a little bit healthier with the turkey bacon.
77:55That's going to give me more energy to get out there with my guys.
77:59And coach, you got to have coffee to start your day.
78:02Okay. You got like his like vein in his neck is starting to bulge out.
78:07It's always bulging. Yeah. That man has so much blood.
78:10It's crazy. Okay. And also Emily did end it with I'm 39.
78:13I live in Tennessee. A chode is a short white penis.
78:17So that was, you know, thank you for having me.
78:20Regional and generational. This one's from Brennan. Brennan. B-bone.
78:22Brennan has a... Nah, I won't say it. You know what I'm saying?
78:26You didn't know that joke? Brennan has a mangina.
78:29Oh, wow. What's that from? Stepbrothers. Come on. Oh, yeah.
78:32Brennan has a mangina. Everyone starts singing. Brennan. Tough for Brennan.
78:35Brennan writes, nut kicks ruin lives. Okay. Obviously, we've been talking about the guy who was going to get kicked in the nuts, went back on it.
78:43Then we had the ER. Well, his wife made him go back on it.
78:47Yeah, that's true. Well, he can make his own decisions.
78:50He's blaming his wife. No, he can't. His wife made him.
78:53Hi, but you're married now. Come on. You should know.
78:56It's both progressive. I can't. My wife said I can't.
78:59Yeah, I get it. Brennan says breakfast. It was bacon, egg and cheese.
79:03Shout out to my buddy and fellow listener Colin for making the bacon, egg and cheese.
79:07Okay, cool. Never had that happen. Hell yeah, Colin.
79:10Brennan writes about all this discourse. What happens to get kicked in the nuts?
79:14I got to tell you. 1981, my father-in-law was at a college party and decided to kick his best friend in the balls as hard as he could.
79:22The damage caused was so severe that they had to take him straight to the hospital.
79:27He had a reconstructive surgery done that night to repair the damage, mostly in his gooch.
79:32And over the next five years, the friend had to get 12 surgeries to clear scar tissue.
79:37And it's been 45 years and his friend said he's never fully recovered.
79:41My God. See, this is what I'm saying. We don't need to be hitting people in the nuts.
79:46I can't believe more of these stories don't exist.
79:49Maybe they do. Well, I was going to say, I feel like it's so prevalent when you watch cartoons or TV or
79:55anything that things get kicked in the nuts that I'm like, I don't realize this is really dangerous.
80:00I see why we're constantly walking around afraid of it.
80:03Yeah. I also like, was there a reason this guy kicked his friend or he just kind of thought it was funny?
80:10I think he just thought it was funny. Yeah.
80:12How could you ever repay him? My goodness. Donate your own testicles to him.
80:17Okay. I want to do. Have you ever done a testicle transplant?
80:20Interesting. Is that a thing that's possible? How would that work?
80:23Could I have given Lance one of mine? Gene, genealogy, luckily speaking.
80:27That's a word. That's a word. Genealogically. That seems like the easy part.
80:31Is that possible? Is that whose baby is that now?
80:34What? What? Who are you? Who's this? Can you transplant?
80:37I got to tell you, I can't believe we could do that.
80:40I know. Transplants are crazy. Yeah. You could just have someone else's heart inside you.
80:44Unbelievable. We figured that out. That's wild. That's how I feel when people argue about certain medical things.
80:50I'm like, you know, my ninth grade biology teacher, he had a heart defect when he was a child.
80:55And so he put a part of a pig heart in his heart and he lived.
81:00Yeah. And I'm like, I don't know. These people kind of know what they're doing.
81:04But anyway. Are people complaining about surgeons? Wait. What do you mean?
81:08No. Other things. Oh. Like the return of measles.
81:11Yeah. Which I thought was a made up. We figured this out long ago.
81:15Yeah. I thought that shit was. That's my version of.
81:18I've never heard of fucking Calvin Johnson. I thought mumps and measles were fake when I was growing up.
81:23I thought it was in Charlie the Chocolate Factory.
81:26It's like the boogeyman is to scare you. Yeah.
81:29I literally like Oompa Loompas. Anyway, I want to talk about this email from Turner.
81:33Turner. Tebow. Lives lived. And I want to talk about Charlie Pride.
81:37So Turner's breakfast was three Advil and two blueberries, which is wild to have more pills than fruit.
81:42Two blueberries. Two blueberries. The fuck is even the point of two blueberries?
81:46I feel like he had all five of them in his hand.
81:49He swallowed them all. Two blueberries. Did you have it in your little pill box?
81:54It's like fruit. I just keep them together. So hung over.
81:57Is this like a normal morning thing? Yeah. Two blueberries.
82:00That's also like, is it like. He's like, I can't have an empty stomach when I take these.
82:05Honestly, you're probably right. Actually, that probably is it.
82:08Which that's not what they mean. Turner writes, I was listening to the country singer Charlie Pride this morning and I was
82:14prompted to do a little reading on the man.
82:17So Charlie Pride Pride. This is going to be a mix of his email.
82:21And then I actually. I don't even know who that is.
82:24Do you know? Oh, yeah. Famous country singer. Oh, I don't know him.
82:28Country musical. Well, I'll tell you who he is.
82:31Charlie Pride bought a guitar for $10 from the Sears catalog when he was 14 years old.
82:36Because Charlie Pride's dad liked watching the Grand Ole Opry.
82:39And Charlie Pride went on to be the first black man invited to play at the Grand Ole Opry.
82:44His 29 different number one country records are second only to Elvis Presley.
82:48And he was the biggest country star in the world in the South right after and during segregation.
82:53So, I mean, think about what that took. First black artist to make the Country Music Hall of Fame, et cetera, et cetera.
83:00Turns out before that, Charlie Pride was a two-time all-star Negro League pitcher in the minor leagues.
83:05He was trying to make it. He played against Hank Aaron and Willie Mays.
83:09Wow. And then he got drafted to the military, had to do service, won a military baseball championship in the military.
83:15Which is, I don't have quibbles with this comparison, but Turner writes it's like if Jimmy Butler quit basketball because he got
83:22drafted and then became the biggest country star in the world.
83:25Which I think is a little different. But this did make me want to look into Charlie Pride.
83:30And his Wikipedia is incredible. Charlie Pride did want to become a baseball player.
83:34He pitched for the Memphis Red Sox in 1952 in the Negro American League.
83:391953, he signs a contract with the Boise Yankees, which is the farm team of the New York Yankees.
83:44But he has an arm injury. He's a pitcher.
83:47He loses the mustard on his fastball. And then he goes on.
83:50And then that season, he was traded to the Birmingham Black Barons for a team bus.
83:55Oh, my God. What? Come on. Charlie Pride, the Charlie Pride, was traded with this other guy, Jesse Mitchell.
84:01They were traded to the Birmingham Black Barons for a bus.
84:04Jesus Christ. And Charlie Pride wrote in his autobiography, I think I'm the only person who's been traded for a motor vehicle to play Major League Baseball.
84:12Oh, that's tough. A bus? A bus. So that's incredible.
84:15It keeps going. That's an incredible factoid. Teams did not have much money back then.
84:19No. It's incredible. The guy got traded for bats the other day.
84:23But so then Charlie Pride was discharged. He tried to make the Mets, the Angels, the Reds.
84:28He couldn't make it. So he gets laid off by the Timber Jacks.
84:31So he goes to work construction in Helena, Montana.
84:34This is 1960. And he gets recruited to play for this local semi-pro baseball team.
84:39Are you ready? Okay. The East Helena Smelterites. The Smelterites?
84:41Smelter? I barely even knew her. You may wonder where this is going.
84:45The team manager was literally a smelter team. They were a smelter business in Montana.
84:50I can't pronounce it in the company. They also played baseball.
84:53They kept 18 jobs open at the smelter plant for baseball players so they could do shifts nine and nine and they could always have a baseball team.
85:01And then so Charlie Pride was a smelter and by day dodged.
85:05I don't know. They call it the smelting term is slag, which I think is lava.
85:09Metal lava. Right. Like the orange metal, liquid metal.
85:12You would have to dodge that while working all day.
85:15And then you can dodge a slag. You can dodge a ball.
85:19Yes. And he hit 400. He hit 444 in the smelter league.
85:22444. Damn. And then he was so good at singing.
85:25He was on his game. Then they asked him to start singing the national anthem before the games because they liked his voice.
85:32And then his career started. He was singing and then playing in the games?
85:36He sang it? Yes. And then they're like, you're good at this singing thing.
85:40This is like a movie. This is like a parody movie.
85:43It is like a parody. It's like Forrest Gump shit.
85:46It's like walk hard. He gets traded for a bus.
85:49Goes and works in the smelter. Traded for a bus.
85:52The start singing the national anthem. Smelting to get cold.
85:55Basically, I don't know if it's cold or smelt, whatever, but it's 2400 degrees, the substance that they're moving with a shovel, apparently.
86:02I don't really understand it. But anyway, I just couldn't believe it.
86:05OSHA would be all over that these days. Charlie Bryant.
86:08And then someone's like, Craig, what did you do in your 20s?
86:12I'm like, well, I kind of just sat in my room, podcasted, went to some bars.
86:16Oh, man. So the Guinness, they used to have the glasses and you could try to drink a little to get it by the G.
86:24Right, right, right. Legendary. I split a couple hundred Gs.
86:27Legendary. It's a hobby of mine. What a life.
86:29Man. He's up there. That's a good one. When my grandpa turned 27, he went to Vietnam.
86:34When I turned 27, I built a birdhouse with my mom.
86:38Okay. The other thing, a thousand people tagged this in this.
86:41I want one of you two to read it.
86:43I don't care which. Can you guys read us about the players who played on the Cleveland Spiders in the 1890s?
86:50I feel like we've talked about the Cleveland Spiders before, but this team is up there.
86:54We have not seen these names because I was going through it and I was flattered.
86:59No, I didn't recognize them. I didn't. I want one of you.
87:03I would have remembered this, I feel like. So these guys, do we have the exact year?
87:08I have the roster. Is this? I'll send it to you right here.
87:11Late 1800s? It's 1880 whatever to 18. It's a bunch.
87:14It's like their best players. Okay. I have it here.
87:17So we have. We have. Which one do I want to pick?
87:21This is insane. Every single one of them is a banger.
87:24This is crazy. No skips, Craig. Every single one.
87:27No skips. Literally no skips. This is like the Katy Perry album, Teenage Dream.
87:31Just banger after banger after banger. Icebox Chamberlain. Of course.
87:34That's the coolest thing ever. Icebox. Icebox is sick.
87:36Oh, man. Cupid Childs. That's a weird name. I don't know if I like that one.
87:41Different time. Pretzels Getson. Pretzels. That's too good. Pretzels.
87:44We have Mortimer Hogan. Not a lot of Mortimers anymore.
87:47They need to bring back Mortimer. Mort. What up, Mort?
87:50We got this. I'm going to name two guys here.
87:53This sounds like they star in a buddy cop comedy together.
87:56We got Cowboy Jones and Sport McAllister. That's like, I found it.
87:59If you found out the emu's real name in the limu emu.
88:03Cowboy Jones. Oh, we got Chippy Magar. Cowboy Sport and Chippy.
88:06Back to back to back. Magar is somehow funnier than Chippy.
88:09We got Cinders O'Brien. Cinders. Yep. We got Crazy Schmidt.
88:12Crazy Schmidt is so good. None of these guys had real names.
88:16Because usually they will... It's like one or two guys on the team get a nickname.
88:21Is Crazy replacing his first name? Or are they just kind of calling him Crazy Schmidt?
88:25They just call him Crazy Schmidt. I don't know.
88:28This name is odd. Louis Sock Alexis. What? Louis Sock Alexis.
88:31It is the word sock and the name Alexis together.
88:34I'm not sure. We have what appears to be brothers.
88:37Patsy and Pussy Tabo. Pussy. Patsy and Pussy Tabo.
88:40They sound like they're in Ocean's Eleven. I hope they're twins.
88:43We have Jim Toy. Jim Toy. And then we have...
88:46It just keeps getting better. It's just T-O-Y too.
88:48It's not anything more. We have Highball Wilson. We have Rasty Wright.
88:52Rasty. And to bring it on home, we got Peekaboo Veach.
88:55Every single one of these guys probably has an unbelievable Wikipedia page.
88:59I know. I'm trying to find the actual baseball reference for this.
89:02Oh, my God. I feel like even if I Google Crazy Schmidt, is that even going to come up?
89:08Peekaboo Veach. I'm on the Wikipedia right now. Crazy Schmidt's name was Fred.
89:12But he was crazy. He was a pitcher and I think he sucked.
89:15His win and loss record was 7-36. So crazy Schmidt.
89:187-36. Hey. This is like a Jameis Winston stat.
89:21He's 7-30. They didn't have enough guys. Couldn't hit the strike zone to save his life, but he was crazy.
89:27It's the enforcer. Oh, man. I'm looking at some other players on this team, Craig.
89:31They also had a guy named Harry Cauliflower. Harry Cauliflower.
89:34I need to read about the Tebow brothers. Pussy.
89:37I'm on Pussy Tebow's Wikipedia right now. Tell me more.
89:40Oh, so Pussy was the younger brother of Patsy.
89:43And then they also had a George. What the fuck does that work?
89:46What would you rather be? Pussy or Patsy? It's got to be George Patsy Pussy in that order, right?
89:52I would rather be Patsy, Craig. Or you own Pussy, you know?
89:55You kind of make it fucking cool. It's like a boy named Sue type deal, yeah.
90:00Had to be strong. There's also a guy named Dick Harley.
90:03Did you already say him? No. There's some fucking all-timers on this team.
90:07I got to figure out what's going on with Pretzels.
90:10Pretzels gets him. Pretzels gets him. Pretzels is unbelievable.
90:13Is it as simple as he likes pretzels? No, no, no.
90:16He was able to throw a double curve following the curves of a pretzel.
90:20Oh, my God. That's kind of cool, actually. This was a cartoon baseball team.
90:24Yeah, what do you mean double pretzel? I think he could throw a curve in other direction.
90:29Oh. They just hadn't invented a slider yet. They didn't know what the word was.
90:34Man, all-time team. Icebox, Chamberlain, Pretzels. Pussy and crazy.
90:36Patsy and pussy is an incredible combo for brothers.
90:39Why don't we have names like this anymore? By the way, Cy Young was on the 1897 Cleveland Spiders.
90:45Cy Young. Wow. So this is a real baseball team.
90:48Oh, my God. Also, Charlie Brown was on that team.
90:50Charlie Brown? So maybe it actually was a cartoon.
90:53Charlie Brown? I still haven't figured it out yet.
90:56Dude, there's an article from 1886 from the magazine Scientific American, and it's about Pretzel's curveball.
91:00What does it say? It's just a diagram of how he throws it, and I don't really get it.
91:06It's been lost to time. All right. Chippy McGar.
91:09Anyway. Thank you, everyone, for emailing us. Email us more.
91:12If you had to pick one name. This podcast will now feature the three of us with names from this list.
91:18What are you picking? Fucking Peek-A-Boo Beach is so fucking funny.
91:21Peek-A-Boo Beach. Peek-A-Boo Beach. Icebox. Icebox Chamberlain. Icebox Chamberlain is so funny.
91:25Sport McAllister. I gotta go with Sport. Sport over Juggerp.
91:28Over Juggerp. Sport McAllister. Cub Buck, Juggerp. No, from this list, though, I mean, if I host a podcast, my name is Sport McAllister.
91:35Jim Toy. That is like Dodgeball 2. Dude, Pussy and Toy being next to each other is also just like that.
91:41Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. I'm Sport McAllister, and I'm joined by Pretzels Getson and Crazy Schmidt.
91:46I'm joined by Pretzels Getson and Crazy Schmidt. Shit, that's good.
91:50Coming up later, we're having the Tabo brothers on.
91:52Patsy and Pussy will be here to break down the MLB season that's coming up.
91:57We'll close that with Icebox Chamberlain. He's going to talk to us about the NBA season.
92:01Oh, my God. There's not even like one normal one that would like balance all this out.
92:06The most normal name on this list, I guess, is Jim Toy.
92:10And Jake Virtue. Jake Virtue. He's like the most normal person here.
92:13Jake Virtue. Mike Goodfellow's kind of normal. And also, it's- Cinder's O'Brien.
92:17Cinder's is amazing. I actually, I'm changing my answer.
92:20I want to be Crazy Schmidt. Crazy Schmidt. I love Crazy Schmidt.
92:23Cowboy Jones. Because it's one of those, why do they call you crazy?
92:27It's like, you don't want to find out. Why do they call you Peekaboo Veach?
92:31You don't want to find out. God. Thank you, everyone who tagged us on this.
92:36Thank you, everyone, for emailing. I want to know.
92:38Yeah. Tell us other stories about getting kicked in the balls.
92:42I don't really know if we have better ones.
92:44Okay, wait. Hold on. Uno fights. Oh, God. What else?
92:47Have we looked at Cowboy Jones' Wikipedia picture yet?
92:50Because this is, I think, the craziest one I've ever seen.
92:53This looks like a cutout that was pasted into a magazine.
92:56This looks like. Oh, my God. That's insane. This looks like he's in a comic strip in 1901.
93:02Yeah. I don't even know where that came from.
93:04He went to the Colorado School of Mines. No.
93:07No. He went to the Colorado School of Mines.
93:10His nickname was Bronco. Cowboy Bronco Jones? He's from Golden, Colorado.
93:13Of course. He died in Inglewood when he was 83.
93:16He became the mayor of Golden, Colorado. He probably brought Coors to Colorado.
93:20He probably did. It's just so funny. This fucking guy probably drank beers his whole life, smoked cigarettes, and ate red meat every day.
93:27He lived to be 83. It's really intimidating to see 83 died in 1958.
93:31Yeah. In Inglewood. Man. Oh, my. I just found a picture of him when he was 83, Craig.
93:36Yeah? Visions of Al Davis. Oh, I see this.
93:39He's holding a pack of eggs with a cup of coffee, like a stud.
93:43Looks like he's in a rodeo or something. I mean, his fucking name's Cowboy Jones.
93:47Well, that makes sense. And text. So I don't remember.
93:50Why's he got a cowboy hat on? I don't remember where text came from.
93:54Checks out. Oh, my God. We got Dallas. He was from Detroit.
93:58Oh, you know what, DK? I think the guy you're looking up is not Cowboy Jones.
94:02Okay. There's another Cowboy Jones. I think this is a jockey.
94:06Okay. Well, that also makes sense. He would still wear a cowboy hat.
94:10The other Cowboy Jones. Probably a lot of Cowboy Joneses.
94:12I mean, I could see it being popular. I can't find a photo of our guy.
94:17What's Cowboy Jones's real name? I forget already. Albert.
94:20Albert? Hold on. I just had it. Albert Edward Cowboy Bronco Jones.
94:23Oh, he also got Bronco. Yeah. Double nickname. Okay.
94:26Yeah. There's not a lot of photos of this guy.
94:29There are zero. It is literally just this weird cutout drawing.
94:32There's a Cowboy Jones carpet cleaning company in Cheyenne, Wyoming.
94:35He probably started that. I love this photo. It's the only photo.
94:39It's the only photo that exists of this guy.
94:41It's like a weird. There's like stuff behind him.
94:44It's not a photo. It's like a map. Yeah.
94:47It looks like he's on a map. Like when you see Golden Colorado, there's a picture of him.
94:52But his shirt looks like it says Portland on it.
94:55Yeah. He played for Portland. That's why. Oh, but it's like, why would that be?
94:59Okay. He played for, I don't know. Where is this?
95:02He played for Portland? Did he play for Portland?
95:05He didn't even play for Portland. What? Who is this guy?
95:08Why? Why? Oh, here's a picture from his baseball reference page.
95:11He might've played for the Portland Giants, the minor league team, briefly.
95:15But why the fuck is that the photo of him?
95:18Anyway. Wait a second. So Patsy Thibault was the manager of the Cleveland Spiders for like a long time.
95:23Okay. I think he was a player manager. Is the nickname Pussy still around?
95:27Because I know there was a guy named Pussy on the Sopranos.
95:31Yeah. That was a long time ago. Email in if you go by Pussy in daily life.
95:36Was it he Big Pussy? Yeah. Yes, he was.
95:39It's like, I mean. His name was Sal. Sal Big Pussy.
95:42I forget his last name. Email in if you go by Pussy.
95:45That's Cousin Big Pussy, Sal, to you. Unbelievable. Okay.
95:48All right. I think we should have the show now.
95:51All right. Oh, my God. What a wormhole. Okay.
95:54Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Cam.
95:56Thank you, Abu. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Carlos.
95:59Thank you, everyone for listening. Thank you, everyone for emailing.
96:02Emailing us will always take more names. Thank you, everyone for listening.
96:05Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, Robin. Nice. Okay.
96:08Nice. Show me love. I don't know the whole song.
96:11Pick me up. It's like Dancing on My Own.
96:14It's the big one. Dancing on My Own is the one I know.
96:17Dancing on My Own. Yeah. What are you singing?
96:20Show Me Love. Are we thinking of the same Robin here?
96:23Ours has a Y. Yes. So she has some big hits.
96:27Pitchfork had Dancing on My Own is the number one song of the 21st century.
96:31What? What? Yeah. The number what song? One. First.
96:34Number one. I'm just the messenger. I mean, it does bang.
96:37Your honor, it does bang. The number one song.
96:39Literally first, yes. Okay. What's your number one song then if you're so smart?
96:44If you have the best taste ever. Why don't you name seven ones then instead?
96:48I don't know. Something like by fucking the Rolling Stones or I guess it was the 21st century.
96:53Yeah. Yeah. 21st century. That makes more sense. So once again, please.
96:57What is the best song of the 21st century?
96:59Oh God. LMFAO. Party Rock. Yeah. Party Anthem. What is that one?
97:03Party Rock Anthem. Yeah. Yeah. That is correct. That is the best song.
97:07That's the only answer I would have accepted. Yeah.
97:09That's a good one. I can't even picture the song.
97:12Sing it. I should have played that. Party Rock Anthem?
97:15No. Dancing on My Own. I keep dancing on my own.
97:19I'm in the corner watching you kiss her. Whoa.
97:21This came out. DK was definitely like DK was definitely like married or whatever, like in a relationship.
97:27And the song came out. This is like a real like 2 a.m.
97:30in the bar. You're sweaty and drunk screaming this song.
97:33I can't say I've clocked it yet. Not knowing this song is the divide of when you stopped going out.
97:39Yeah. Who named this the number one song of the century?
97:42Rolling Stone? I'm making sure I'm right, but I think Pitchfork.
97:46Oh no, I'm wrong. They had it third of the 2010s.
97:49Oh, okay. So it was a little wrong. They had Robin Third.
97:52They had Oblivion by Grimes too. And they had All Right by Kendrick Lamar, number one.
97:57And the other ones are, they had what? Formation by Beyonce Fourth, Thinking About You by Frank Ocean 5.
98:03And then obviously there's like 95 other songs. Yeah, I'm realizing I don't know the 2010s very well.
98:08Not my era. Robin released a new album this year called Sexistential.
98:12You should listen to it. Ooh. Oh, wow. Sounds good.
98:14No, it's- Sounds erotic. Yeah. It's not for me.
98:17It's because the music's bad or because you're married in Washington?
98:20No. All- It's just not for me. Diplomatic. Listen to it on your own.
98:24Robin's like out here like probably excited to be thanked on our show.
98:28And then we're just like, who's that? We don't like your new album.
98:32I love Robin. She's a great artist. Yeah, shout out Robin.
98:35She is. Amazing song. Dancing on Your Own? Come on.
98:38DK, listen to it. I'll check it out. DK, go to a club tonight.
98:42Okay. Pay the DJ $20 to pay that song.
98:45Okay. Play that song and you'll have a great time.
98:48Have a four loco. Yeah, yeah. And you'll live like it's 2010.
98:52DK's going to have like a bunch of- He's going to have three whiskeys during his night and just like listen to
98:58it and text us at like midnight and be like, this is a good song.
99:02Yeah, yeah. This is good. This holds up. Well, right.
99:05I already did the thank you. I guess I should just end the show now.
99:10You've done a lot of repeat thank yous these days.
99:13I'm rusty. Yeah. Losing track. That's what we call you.
99:16Rusty Heifetz. It's losing my, Rusty Heifetz. I'm losing my muster and my fastball like Charlie Fry.
99:21Rusty's a cool name. I like Rusty. Rusty is good.
99:24Pretzels. Rusty, I, Brad Pittman. Yeah, 2000, yeah. Ocean's 11th.
99:26Rusty's sick. Rusty's good. And you got Rusty Cole.
99:29Rusty Cole. He goes, he doesn't even do Rusty.
99:32It's just Rust. Rust, which is crazy. Rust is weird.
99:35I like it. Rusty's a deer. I like abnormally shortened names.
99:38There are some of my favorite names. Give me an example.
99:41Oh, like Rand instead of Randy or Randall. You like Rand?
99:44Sure. Who goes by Rand as a first name?
99:47Rand Paul. Yeah. I mean, maybe that's not the best example in the world.
99:51TK loves that name. TK loves Rand Paul's name.
99:54TK loves Rand Paul. Oh. I like, I do like less commonly shortened names.
99:58Yeah, like for Jeremy, like you call them Jer.
100:01Jer. 100%. That's good. You don't have to dilly dally on the second syllable and the second and only other syllable.
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