0:00Hello and welcome to Episode 1013 of the official EstablishTheRun.com podcast.
0:04My name is Adam Levitan. I am one of the co-founders here at ETR, as always joined by fellow co-founder Evan Silva,
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1:09Silva story number one comes from Las Vegas and it is the Ashton Gentty ankle sprain heard around the world.
1:16When this first happened, you would have thought that Ashton Gentry was on his deathbed, a prayer circle, a moment of silence.
1:23Gentty has helped off the field. He can't put any weight on his leg.
1:28And then a couple of days later, Evan, we find out it's an ankle sprain.
1:33And listen, with all due respect, if my teammates did a prayer circle for me and then it turned out to be
1:40an ankle sprain, I don't think I could face the team again.
1:44I just have to retire right there on the spot.
1:47So sounds now like not only did Ashton Gentty avoid serious injury, but it might not even be a high ankle sprain.
1:54Sounds like it could be a low ankle sprain and he has not been ruled out for week one yet.
2:01So Evan, thoughts on the Gentty thing and how you're handling him in the rankings?
2:06Yeah, and the quote going around is that the ankle sprain is more low than high.
2:11And so, I mean, that's a big difference to me.
2:14Right now, I think if Ashton Gentty had suffered an actual high ankle sprain, he would not be playing week one, maybe
2:22not week two, maybe not week three. I wound up moving him down just a little bit.
2:27I had him as my 14th overall player. He's now my 18th overall player.
2:32He did move down one tier from the bottom of the previous tier to the top of tier three in my running back tiers.
2:40I'm sorry, the bottom of tier three to the top of tier four.
2:44So it's a little bit of a change. I mean, he's entering the season.
2:48He's not probably going to be at 100%. There's also been a lot of positive buzz about Mike Washington.
2:55Now, Mike Washington, if you go back to his career in college, he played at a bunch of different schools and was
3:02never, despite having sensational athleticism, I mean, freak show athleticism, incredible speed score, all that kind of stuff, was never a true
3:09workhorse in college, despite playing five years in college.
3:12And so that's, I think we can characterize him as somewhat of an underachiever and also a player that might shine in
3:19training camp practices, might shine in preseason games against players that are against defenders that are clearly much less athletic than him.
3:26With that said, I mean, I think that he's one of the top handcuffs.
3:31He might get a start in week one, at which point he would be like flex viable.
3:37But yeah, I mean, I did wind up moving Ashton Gentry down a little bit.
3:41Yeah, so on Gentry first, we were at 12 overall on Gentry in the ETR ranks.
3:47We have gone to 18 overall here on him.
3:50So we're in lockstep on Ashton Gentry. There's still risk here, right?
3:54Like it could be worse. It could aggravate ankle sprains aren't great.
3:58But I think the most likely scenario here is Gentry turns out to be fine.
4:02He doesn't play week one. So I don't want to go crazy on this.
4:07If we get more positive news, we'll probably keep ticking him up here a little bit.
4:12But for now, you know, anywhere around that two, three turn anywhere between like 18 and 24.
4:18I kind of think Gentry is a solid pick there.
4:21Yeah, Mike Washington. So Mike Washington was one of the stars of the combine.
4:26Like Evan said, when you're an athletic freak, it's easy to smash the combine, easy to smash training camp practices.
4:32In preseason games, he has been unreal. 15 carries, 119 yards, no touchdowns, also caught two balls for 18 yards on just 45 snaps.
4:40So I think Mike Washington, given Gentry's ankle injury, deserves to get moved up decently.
4:45We are up to 164 on Mike Washington in the ETR rank.
4:49So just outside of top 150. I think if I was drafting now, though, I would make Mike Washington a bit more of a priority than that.
4:58I do think handcuffs are worth more in redraft formats.
5:01And I just did update in favorite Flyers article.
5:04You can find my rankings of handcuffs. I did move Mike Washington to three overall in my handcuff rankings there.
5:11So, yeah, I do think Mike Washington is very, very draftable at this point as a bench piece and see what happens.
5:18And I have him at 143 overall. But the way that I've always done my top 150, because there is a cutoff
5:25at 150, and I'm not jamming in wide receiver sixes and wide receiver sevens, I jam in backup running backs into the
5:32bottom of the top 150, because once you get your lineup drafted, the majority of your bench, it's worth stashing backup running
5:39backs at the end of your bench. And Mike Washington is a priority.
5:44Hopefully you guys caught our show on draft strategy.
5:47Talked about that a bunch. I love, you know, I think you should be using your bench for players like Mike Washington.
5:54That's a perfect place to use them on a season-long bench.
5:57All right. Let's go to story number two. This is from last Wednesday.
6:02Keenan Allen signs a one-year, up-to-$8 million deal with the Indianapolis Colts.
6:06This one was long speculated for a lot of reasons.
6:09The Shane Steichen connection between Keenan. The Colts desperate for pass-catching help.
6:13Now we add short-area Keenan to short-area Tyler Warren.
6:16And in theory, at least, short-area Josh Downs, I know he's done some vertical stuff.
6:21So Evan, what was your reaction or thoughts on the Keenan Allen signing from last week?
6:26I think it was fairly expected. And now we have to figure out whether or not Keenan Allen, who is very much
6:33a trusted veteran, is always going to run very crisp routes and be where the quarterback expects him to be.
6:40And those are big things to a quarterback. Big, big things to an offensive-minded coach like Shane Steichen.
6:46Is he at any point going to jump ahead of Josh Downs in two receiver sets?
6:51That's the thing that we have to monitor. It sounds like Shane Steichen, by the way, one of the best offensive coaches in the league.
6:59Let's not lose sight of that when we're thinking about drafting players like Jonathan Taylor, even Alec Pierce, Josh Downs, even on down to Seth McGowan.
7:08Seth McGowan, by the way, is a player that I have jammed into the bottom of my top 150.
7:14And as long as he maintains that number two running back job in Indianapolis, he is a guy that I want to
7:21have at the end of my bench in season-long redraft.
7:24But that's what we're going to be monitoring as we approach the season.
7:29Is Keenan Allen going to jump into two receiver sets?
7:32It sounds like Steichen wants to give that opportunity to Josh Downs, and he hasn't done anything so far in training camp
7:39or preseason to dissuade Steichen from leaving him in there.
7:42So Keenan Allen is 34 years old. 34 years old playing wide receiver in the NFL is not something that typically goes well.
7:50We also saw big signs of decline last year, late in the year, from Keenan.
7:55But what has not declined on Keenan is his ability to command targets.
7:59So I don't want to brush this off. I think it matters.
8:03Now, I do think they'll start with Alec Pierce, more on him in a second, and Josh Downs as their primary wide receivers.
8:10But Josh Downs is 171 pounds. Pierce is off this injury, you know, historically been a deep threat only.
8:17Can Downs survive in run blocking? I think there's a lot of questions here that could lead to more snaps for Keenan Allen.
8:24So we have gotten lower on Josh Downs in the ETR ranks.
8:28We're now at 97 overall. And part of that reason is also because the Alec Pierce ankle thing sounds like it's trending in the right way.
8:37He's expected to return to practice this week if all goes according to plan.
8:41Obviously, they keep saying this and it doesn't happen.
8:44But hopefully this week it actually does happen. And then also Tyler Warren, who had a groin issue, he sounds like he's going to be fine.
8:53He's probably going to sit out practice this week.
8:56But they said they still think that he's going to be fine for week one.
9:01So it's just this short area is getting crowded.
9:04So unless you think Josh Downs at 171 can stay on the field enough in run blocking situations, can get vertical, it's
9:11just getting a little bit tougher for me on Josh Downs.
9:14So, yeah. I'm much higher on Josh Downs. And that's because I think he's really, really good.
9:20And I think he's got just as good a chance as any of these other guys to lead the Colts in receiving.
9:27And he's being given this opportunity from Shane Steichen, which speaks to how good that Shane Steichen believes that Josh Downs is.
9:34So I'm going to continue to be very aggressive on Josh Downs.
9:38For me, he's been a priority in drafts all offseason.
9:42And I think that he will remain that leading into the quarter.
9:45Yeah, you might get a little dip in ADP here.
9:49I'm seeing home league ADP right now around 106 on Josh Downs.
9:53So we're still ahead of market on Josh Downs here in the ETR ranks at 97.
9:58I still didn't even get him there, depending on what kind of league you're in.
10:03In more competitive stuff, like in higher stakes stuff, whatever, Alec Pierce has really been slipping.
10:08And when Alec Pierce gets to like that 110, 120 range, which I've seen him get to, I've typically been a buyer there.
10:16I know it's risky, but man, that is a really cheap price there on Alec Pierce.
10:21Story three, some positive injury news here, Evan. Malik Neighbors sheds the non-contact injury at Giants camp.
10:26And Harbaugh says it's reasonable to assume that Malik Neighbors will play week one.
10:31I mean, it's crazy how smooth this ramp up has been.
10:35He's practiced a ton, no setbacks, reportedly looks great.
10:38Now he's taking contact. And we still have over two weeks until the season starts.
10:42So Evan, how high are you willing to get on Malik Neighbors now that seems pretty likely he's playing week one?
10:49Yeah, I mean, I think that the writing on the wall was there for this to be, you know, in the offing
10:57when Malik Neighbors was practicing on the first day of training camp.
11:00I mean, he avoided PUP to begin Giants camp.
11:03I know he started out in individual drills. It's been a gradual, very successful, it seems, ramp up for Malik Neighbors.
11:10And now it comes down to, like, how much do you trust Jackson Dart to get him the ball?
11:17How much do you trust Matt Nagy? And I mean, there are still, like, looming red flags here.
11:22But there's no question about Malik Neighbors' talent. And there's been no question along the way since training camp started about his recovery.
11:30I mean, he's done this like gangbusters. I've even seen some of the Twitter doctors come out and be like, it looks
11:37like he's going to prove me wrong, you know?
11:40I mean, he's beaten all timetables. He's really, really young.
11:43We talked about how he's younger than a bunch of dudes that were drafted, a bunch of wide receivers that were drafted this year.
11:51And Malik Neighbors will be entering, what, his third NFL season.
11:55I mean, I feel very good about him. It's just the environment is still not quite ideal.
12:00But how much do you trust Jackson Dart? It seemed like during our draft, we did a draft with Leone, Leviton, and I, an FFPC $2,200 entry draft.
12:10And it seemed like you're still really high on Jackson Dart.
12:13Yeah, just the rushing ability of Dart more than anything else, I think, is what matters.
12:18But yeah, Malik Neighbors just turned 23. So the thing is, Silva, like there's been so much positive buzz about this.
12:25At your current rank, you have Malik Neighbors 32.
12:28It's going to be tough to get him there.
12:31And at ETR ranks, we're at 26 overall. I think you might be able to get him there.
12:37But more positive news and maybe not. And the reason that we're sticking with this 26 overall on Neighbors is because, frankly, he's coming off an ACL tear.
12:46He's coming off a meniscus tear. He has Matt Nagy as his offensive coordinator.
12:51There's still like risk there to get higher than 26 overall.
12:54Even if he does play week one, I think is kind of a stretch for me.
13:00So I feel good about where Malik Neighbors is at.
13:03If you want to just throw all risk out the window, though, I could see him taking, I could see taking him
13:10closer to the Drake London range there in round two.
13:13The other note from Giants camp that I had, Evan, this Malachi Fields stuff.
13:18The reports are that Malachi Fields is beating out both Darius Slayton and Darnell Mooney already.
13:23Are you buying that, Evan? And any interest for you on Malachi Fields as a mega late flyer?
13:29Yeah. I mean, I think that in the 18 and 20 round, you know, best ball drafts and in deeper, like in
13:36FFPC, we have, what, 10 bench spots? Like Malachi Fields should absolutely be rostered.
13:41It's not entirely surprising to me. So Malachi Fields was a transfer to Notre Dame.
13:46He goes and plays there last year with a freshman quarterback in CJ Carr.
13:51And they really just asked him to run one route, and that was a vertical route.
13:56Every once in a while, they throw him a screen.
13:59But he was the downfield, you know, field stretcher for Notre Dame.
14:03And he was very successful at that. But because of that role, he would disappear for long stretches.
14:09Because it was a super, super high ADOT and not a ton of, like, target volume.
14:14So it was a little bit hard to assess with a freshman quarterback, a team that had two first round running backs, you know.
14:22They had a lot of talent. And then he goes to the Senior Bowl, and he ripped it up.
14:28Malachi Fields ripped it up at the Senior Bowl.
14:31People were like, oh, well, he can run these routes.
14:34You know, he can do different things and just run goes all day.
14:39And then he gets to training camp, and he's still tearing it up.
14:43So, yeah, I mean, I absolutely am buying that Malachi Fields has a really good chance to open the season as the ex-receiver opposite Malik Nators.
14:51You know, I think they'll start with a rotation, right?
14:55Like, you'll see Fields, and you'll see Mooney, and you'll see Slayton.
14:59If Fields can keep this up, and he becomes an every-down player, that's where it becomes more interesting to me.
15:05But, yeah, I mean, we're not going to get much higher than, you know, 190, 200 overall, something like that on him for now.
15:13But, yeah, like Evan said, in deeper leagues, I think he's an interesting bench piece there at the wide receiver position.
15:20One other thing about Jackson Dart is that in his final season at Ole Miss, he had one of the high –
15:27I think he had actually the highest passing ADOT in the nation that year.
15:32He doesn't have the strongest arm, but, like, downfield throws like that, like deep shots are not necessarily true arm strength throws.
15:39And so I think that that kind of matches up with the skill set of Jackson Dart, what Malachi Fields can do
15:46down the – And that's why I'm kind of on Dart in fantasy.
15:50Reminds me of the criticisms of Josh Allen early in his career.
15:54He runs too wild. He runs too much. He's out of control.
15:58He's going to get hurt running. Oh, and he throws too deep.
16:02His completion percentage is low. He's a wild man.
16:05I want a wild man as my fantasy quarterback.
16:08I want them throwing deep and running. So, yeah, I like – Throwing deep and running is sexy in fantasy football.
16:15All right. Oh, story four also from the Giants.
16:18So Giants signed free agent running back Najee Harris.
16:21This was last week. I want to be clear here.
16:24Zero guaranteed dollars in Najee Harris' deal. This is a one-year, $1.2 million contract.
16:29He's 28 years old, coming off of an Achilles tear, and the eye thing.
16:33So my first thing to think is to just brush this off, whatever.
16:38He may not make the team. But, man, I feel like Najee Harris is loved by Harbaugh.
16:43I don't trust these boomers, Harbaugh and Nagy. And second, Evan, Tyrone Tracy has had, like, the worst preseason, I can recall,
16:50for somewhat of an incumbent running back. So what do you make of the Najee Harris signing, Evan, and the outlook for Giants backfield?
16:58Well, I'll be doing a tweet here after this show.
17:02I'm going to do a tweet on each team – like one note on each team each week until the season starts.
17:09And then once the season starts, I think I'll do, like, a top 10, top 15 takeaways from the previous week.
17:16But in that, I'm going to talk about how Najee Harris and Cam Scadaboo's skill sets really overlap.
17:21So, look, Tyrone Tracy has maybe played himself off the Giants roster.
17:25I do think he will be on an NFL roster to start the season.
17:30So don't throw away your Tyrone Tracy shares whatsoever.
17:33There are so many backup running back spots throughout the league that are open, and that Tyrone Tracy would upgrade.
17:40Like, he's going to be on an NFL roster.
17:42But in terms of skill set, like, Najee Harris and Cam Scadaboo are almost interchangeable.
17:47Scadaboo is, what, 220 pounds. Najee's, like, 230. They're both 4'6 guys.
17:51They're both coming off severe injuries. And they both can pass protect and play in the passing game.
17:57They can really be used interchangeably. I think that this will – I think that Najee Harris is going to play a
18:04lot, quite possibly, to start the season at the expense of Cam Scadaboo.
18:09And then, yeah, maybe Tyrone Tracy, maybe he'll hang around as the third back.
18:13But he's going to end up on a roster no matter what.
18:17Yeah, I mean, Silva's gone to 64 overall on Scadaboo.
18:20We are at 49 overall on Scadaboo. ADP is hanging in there.
18:2438 overall is redraft ADP on Scadaboo. People love Cam Scadaboo.
18:28Yeah, and again, like, the way he scores points is really good for fantasy.
18:33I just – yeah, I agree that, you know, we also got lower on Cam Scadaboo off the Najee Harris signing is the bottom line.
18:41And, yeah, he's not really a target for me there in that round four range.
18:46They also have – the Giants also still have Devin Singletary.
18:49And some beat writers, at least before the Najee Harris signing, thought that Devin Singletary was headed for a role.
18:56Another guy who the coaches can trust to pass protect and, like, do things right.
19:01On the official depth chart that they released, which is pretty meaningless, but they did list Scadaboo as the starter.
19:07And then at RB2, they listed Najee or Tracy or Singletary, you know, all three of them.
19:13So, yeah. All right, following up from last week, story number five, Jordan Tyson timeline is out.
19:18Expected to miss roughly two months. So, we talked about Tyson on the lead of this show seven days ago.
19:25Two months – this two-month timeline from the August 13th injury would be roughly week six.
19:30That is problematic because the Saints play in Paris, which I know Evan is thrilled about.
19:35They play in Paris in week seven, and then they have a week eight bye due to the Saints.
19:42So, if it's close, maybe Jordan Tyson sits out to the bye and comes back week nine.
19:47I do want to say, though, Evan, like, these timelines so far out on soft tissue.
19:53Everybody's so different. I don't know where they got this timeline from.
19:56I just don't know that I buy it. Like, I think he could come back sooner than two months.
20:03He could come back later than two months. You know, it's not like you broke a bone and we have a ton
20:10of data on exactly how long it takes to heal.
20:13So, Evan, thoughts on handling Jordan Tyson in drafts right now after we have this timeline?
20:18I mean, I totally agree with everything that you just said.
20:22I think he could come back sooner. I think he could come back later.
20:27And I think that it's largely unpredictable because of the nature of the injury itself.
20:32I think that the real conversation to have here is, you know, what moves are we making around Jordan Tyson, like, almost
20:39certainly being out for the first three to four weeks, if not the first half of the season?
20:45Olave, you're feeling great about Chris Olave. You know, you've talked about Devon Vele.
20:49That makes a lot of sense as a guy who can, you know, maybe give you some five-catch 75-yard and a touchdown
20:56weeks early in the season in offense that we expect to be very, very productive playing indoors.
21:02By the way, I've been talking to Underhill lately.
21:05And he was talking about at the start of camp, Tyler Shuck was not performing well early in training camp.
21:11He's been balling lately. So that helps us with our confidence level in him.
21:16You know, a defense is probably not going to be very good that you have to account for.
21:22And then this huge opening with no Jordan Tyson, who, when he jumped into practice, looked like the best player on the field at Saints training camp.
21:31And also, I'm a big fan of Jawan Johnson.
21:34We talked about him on that draft, that live draft that we did.
21:38I have him as my tight end 11. You know, he had 77 catches and 889 yards last season.
21:44I think he will be a fantasy starter, at least like an every week fantasy starter, at least until Jordan Tyson returns.
21:51Yeah. You know, going back to Tyson, the deeper your bench is, if you have an IR spot, that stuff matters.
21:58And that would make Tyson a pretty intriguing pick for me.
22:02We did take him in that FFPC league. We have 10 bench spots.
22:06We can afford to hold him. And if he comes back early, it's going to look like we got an incredible price.
22:13I mean, an incredible price if he comes back sometime between, say, week two, three, four, five, something like that.
22:20So I do think he's a really interesting guy to take there.
22:24I just want to say, I don't trust him to sustain health when he gets back.
22:29This guy has had four hamstring injuries in the last 12 months.
22:33So it's going to be a celebration. Yeah, we got Tyson back.
22:37It's week four. It's week five. Holding my breath that he doesn't aggravate again, because we've seen this before with Christian Watson,
22:44and we've seen it before with Jordan Tyson. So definitely a lot, a lot to think about there with that stuff.
22:51Oh, last thing on this. I did find it, you know, somewhat encouraging that there were rumors the Saints would trade for Kayshaun Booty.
22:59The Patriots, and we'll get to this trade in a minute, the Patriots did not give up a lot to get Kayshaun Booty.
23:06So it was a little bit vote of confidence to me for Vele, Juwan Johnson, their young guys, that they didn't go out and pursue Booty stronger.
23:15Oh, story number six, also out of Saints camp.
23:18Alvin Kamara out at least a month with a sprained MCL.
23:22He sustained this knee injury during joint practice with the Cowboys.
23:25So it's starting to really pile up on red flags with Alvin Kamara.
23:3031 years old, was one of the worst running backs in the NFL last season.
23:35Saints seemingly wanted to release him this offseason, bring him back on a revised contract.
23:40Now he has an MCL sprain. He does have a little bit of a history of knee issues.
23:45So it seems really bleak right now for Kamara.
23:48Evan, have you made any moves around this one?
23:51He's been drafting a lot more Travis H. No, don't.
23:55Are we going to call him H? No, I'm sticking with ETN.
23:59I can't. Okay, fine. If you're sticking with ETN, I'll stick with ETN.
24:03It's too confusing, and I have enough problem with guys' names already.
24:07I'm sticking with ETN. Okay. Travis, the name police are going to hate us.
24:11Okay. Well, they already hate us, so who cares?
24:14Travis ETN, I had this lingering concern that because Alvin Kamara is like a Saints Hall of Famer, maybe a real-life Hall
24:22of Famer, played his entire career with the Saints.
24:24He's like a legend in New Orleans, like really considered like a great dude off the field as well.
24:31A legacy that by the Saints retaining him, that they would maybe use him at the expense of Travis ETN.
24:37He's like, oh, yeah. He's got a great dude.
24:40He's got a great dude. He's got a great dude.
24:43He's got a great dude. He's got a great dude on ETR against an ADP around 41.
24:49So yeah, decently. I'm at 33. Yeah, both of us decently ahead of market here on ETN, and I like that.
24:56Story seven. So no surprise here, but George Kittle officially activated from the active slash PUP list.
25:01Ever since those videos of Kittle came out from the tight end university thing, this was like two or three months ago,
25:09I've been on Kittle ever since then. Maybe he plays week one, but I think more likely he stays behind.
25:15The team goes to Australia in week one, and he plays week two.
25:19So this is going to make his ADP rise, Evan.
25:23We have been assuming Kittle is going to be playing pretty much every game the whole way here.
25:29So we're not going to have a rank change.
25:32There will be an ADP change though on this.
25:35Thoughts on handling Kittle right now? I have not been quite as high as you on George Kittle, but I don't think
25:42that anybody is quite as high as you have been on George Kittle.
25:46Well, I don't know. You're in the super high stakes, nosebleed streets on DraftKings.
25:51I mean, I've gotten a decent amount of him in my drafts.
25:55I've liked building 49er stacks with George Kittle, who's like one of the cheaper pieces.
25:59At the end of the day, I can build a pretty strong bear case for George Kittle.
26:05He's a player who has always thrived off of low volume and thrived because he's super, super explosive.
26:11Is he going to have that level of explosiveness coming back from the Achilles at age 33?
26:16You know, it's an easy bear case to build, but because his cost has been so affordable, I feel like I have not been bearish on him.
26:25Yeah, he's been cheap. That's where I'm at with him.
26:29He's been cheap, but in redraft, we're actually behind.
26:32Like, I think we're kind of high at 108 overall.
26:35On Kittle, not high, but I like our rank 108 overall on Kittle.
26:39His redraft ADP is around 92. And this is something that I wrote about in the exploiting the default rankings article and
26:46also in draft strategy article that you guys can check out in draft kit.
26:51But the mid-range tight ends and later round tight ends are going really high in redrafts.
26:56So there's adjustments to make there for sure. Check out the exploiting articles.
27:00But yeah, I like Kittle. I don't want to reach up into the 80s and 90s to get him for the reasons that Evan said.
27:09But my main like bull case on Kittle is that the bar to clear at tight end scoring is so low and
27:16Kittle's one week ceiling is historically so high. It's just like an asymmetric bet if he's cheap enough, where there's just not
27:23that much downside in round 10, 11. And at tight end, if you score 20 in a week or 30 in a week, you could just lap everyone.
27:32And Kittle certainly has that in him. Speaking of the 49ers, Mike Evans has been sitting out a lot of practice.
27:39Meanwhile, Dazon Stribbling continues to smash. So the Evans thing, like people are worried about it.
27:44I don't know if you've even seen this, Evan, but Mike Evans is like pulled himself out of practice, had a quad thing.
27:52He watched, he came back, then he watched. It just feels to me like he's old, it's veteran rest.
27:58He doesn't want to go through the whole camp, et cetera.
28:02So I'm not that worried about it. But in itself, that he can't or doesn't want to go to every practice, I guess is a mild concern.
28:11Evan, any thoughts on the Stribbling Mike Evans dynamic right now?
28:14Yeah, the Mike Evans stuff scares me because I've been really high on him, number one.
28:19Yeah, I've been drafting a lot of him. And I mean, he's going to be 33.
28:25So, yeah, I mean, any sort of, you know, concern about him is especially concerning to me personally.
28:30You know, but when you sort of zoom out, like Christian McCaffrey until very recently wasn't practicing at all.
28:37It seems like the 49ers have had their older veterans on, you know, regimented plans during training camp.
28:43This is the longest training camp ever. You know, as we've discussed, like the season starts a week later than usual.
28:49And, you know, the training camps weren't moved back.
28:52The season wasn't shortened. So it makes all the sense in the world for NFL teams to, especially when they've had as
29:00many injuries as the 49ers did at the outset of training camp, to take it really easy on guys that they might
29:07have a little bit of injury concerns about during the season.
29:10And they don't need to practice a ton. I prefer and we prefer by decent margin Devante Adams over Mike Evans.
29:17You know, if you're in that old wide receiver range in the mid rounds there, I like both of them, but I do prefer Devante Adams.
29:26We'll get to more on him there in a second.
29:29One thing, though, about Mike Evans is that we've kind of stayed static with his rank.
29:34We're at 51 market. It just doesn't want to click Mike Evans.
29:38They're down to 63 overall in the redraft for ADP right now on Mike Evans.
29:43The one that people do want to click is Jerry Rice.
29:47I'm sorry. I'm sorry. De'Juan Stribling is the one that they do want to click.
29:52De'Juan Stribling, Evan, has run 22 routes this preseason.
29:5522 routes. On those 22 routes, he's caught 11 passes for 109 yards, no touchdowns.
30:00And also the reports out of camp and joint practices is also that Stribling is smashing.
30:05The question now is in, is he a good pick?
30:08I mean, clearly he's a good pick. It's at what price are you willing to get up to him?
30:14We're still down at 114 overall on Stribling. May not be able to get him at 114 overall anymore.
30:21So, Evan, what do you think about him? I have him all the way up at 87.
30:26So you're definitely going to have a chance to get De'Juan Stribling if you're using my rankings.
30:32Here's one of the issues. Early in the season, okay?
30:35We got Mike Evans. Debo Samuel, Mike Evans should open the season as an every down player.
30:41You got Debo Samuel, who I think will probably open the season as maybe like a 40 to 60 percent player.
30:47And then you got Demarcus Robinson, who, you know, I know that he's not like, you know, anybody, you know, like a dynamic talent.
30:55But he is a player who will get on the field, coaches trust him, et cetera.
31:01I mean, he's logged big playing time percentages in his past.
31:04So where does De'Juan Stribling fit into that? You know, I'm not entirely sure.
31:09I think they want him to play the Jawan Jennings role, like a more athletic version of the Jawan Jennings big slot.
31:16So, but when everybody's healthy, the Jawan Jennings role is like the big slot who doesn't necessarily, is not necessarily an every down player.
31:24I don't know. I just, I think that there's a lot of moving parts and there will be moving parts during the season as well.
31:32We don't know if Kittle's going to be ready week one.
31:36That could mean Jake Tongas. When Kittle comes back, we can see a lot of two tight end sets with Kittle and Jake Tongas.
31:43You know, there's, there's just, there's going to be a lot of moving parts and we're going to have to, you know,
31:51just kind of figure our way out, our way through that as the season progresses.
31:56Because you got a bunch of dudes who have had injury histories that are aging.
32:00It's going to be a lot of moving parts in San Francisco throughout the season.
32:05So get ready for that when you're, when you're drafting 49ers players.
32:09I think that the way that Stribling pays off this 87 that, that Silva has him at here is if something happens
32:17to someone else, McCaffrey, Evans, Kittle, something like that.
32:19And you open up a way more opportunity for Stribling and then he will beat this 87, you know?
32:26And I think that's likely. I mean, these guys are so old and frail.
32:30I think it's likely. It's just a bit of a contingent bet.
32:34I think at 87, you know, I like him a lot.
32:38I think he's going to have a good year.
32:41I don't think I'd be taking him over like really established guys, but I don't want to say bad things about Stribling, man.
32:48I mean, looks absolutely incredible. Absolutely incredible. I'm really curious where he goes.
32:53I think it's really going to vary like league by league and draft by draft how high Stribling goes in kind of redraft settings.
33:00I saw Dwayne McFarland who used to do stuff for ETR took him like in the fifth round of some industry draft recently.
33:08I don't think that's a good bet, but gosh, I mean.
33:12I mean, at 87, he's what, like a seventh or eighth round pick?
33:16Like, I don't think that's crazy. Oh, last 49ers note.
33:19So Kalen Black got back to practice before Jordan James and reportedly played well.
33:24Jordan James got back in practice Saturday. So the competition is back on between those two.
33:29I still think Kalen Black is likelier to win it, but I know the prospect bros prefer Jordan James profile.
33:36I think it's a battle. I just want to note on this before anyone gets too, too excited.
33:41Debo Samu is going to do some running back stuff.
33:45Maybe he gets three carries. Maybe he gets five.
33:48If Christian McCaffrey was out, maybe he gets six or seven carries.
33:52You know, like Debo is going to take some of that running back stuff, making it not the cleanest handcuffed spot that I've seen.
33:59And yes, as Evan alluded to, Christian McCaffrey, seemingly good back in practice.
34:04And he said it was a planned absence for the last couple of weeks for him from practice.
34:10All right. Story nine, Detroit. Sam Laporta has a hip issue.
34:13ADP is sinking on Sam Laporta in a big way here.
34:17Remember, he was coming off that fully herniated disc that ended his 2025 season needed back surgery.
34:22Now he gets a quote unquote minor hip aggravation.
34:25He scares me because hip and back issues can certainly be connected.
34:29But man, I'm really tempted to buy the dip here.
34:33Evan, how have you been handling the Sam Laporta news?
34:36He has sort of naturally moved down just a couple of notches in my top 150, but I have not actively moved him down.
34:44Because I just I can't get him below Harold Fannin.
34:47And he's right next to Harold Fannin. And I'm not going to move him below Harold Fannin with all the crap that's going on in Cleveland right now.
34:56And just the how diametrically opposite the offensive situations are between Detroit and Cleveland.
35:01Like I'm going to bet that bet on the if it's even close at all, I'm going to bet on the dude that plays in Detroit.
35:09And that's Sam Laporta. I have moved up Jameson Williams, though, a little bit as a contingency because historically the on-off splits
35:16regarding Sam Laporta have very much affected Jameson Williams.
35:19I think Jameson Williams is going to be awesome regardless.
35:23I think that John Morton really messed that up in the first half of last season.
35:28That's why Dan Campbell pulled the reins back from him and got everything right.
35:32And Jameson Williams was a league winner in the second half of the season.
35:37And also Drew Petson comes in, he's willing to throw the absolute cover off the ball as we saw with what he
35:44did last year with Jacoby Brissett in Arizona. So I think Jameson Williams is going to be great regardless.
35:50And he's a priority pick leading into week one.
35:53But I did move him up a little bit in my rankings to make sure that people are getting him because Sam Laporta is bent up.
36:02So there's certainly risk here because I said like hip and back, it scares me a little bit.
36:08But I want to be buying the dip here on Laporta just because I want to bet on Lions stuff.
36:14I've talked a million times about why I want to bet on Lions stuff.
36:19I also think the Drew Petsing tight end scheming history stuff is a positive here for Laporta.
36:25And yeah, I mean, you know, Jameson Williams, like this is why like the running back heavy starts.
36:30And you can go back and listen to the draft strategy pod for more.
36:35But, you know, guys like Burden and Jameson Williams and Christian Watson and Parker Washington and Downs and Addison and all these
36:42guys, you know, Devontae Adams, Mike Evans. There's just so many wide receivers to the mid range that I like.
36:49And I would consider Jameson Williams one of those strong ones in there also.
36:53Story 10 comes out of Cleveland. Evan just mentioned it.
36:57Deshaun Watson has been named the Browns week one starter.
37:00Beating out Shader Sanders for that job. This comes just like a couple days after Deshaun Watson literally called out Browns fans
37:07because they booed him at the preseason game. And he called it disrespectful and personal.
37:12It's just an absolute unmitigated disaster from the moment they signed Deshaun Watson.
37:16I don't really see the point of starting him in week one, Evan.
37:21But it's not like Shader Sanders is any better.
37:24Any thoughts on Browns quarterback situation? I think that the point of starting Deshaun Watson has very much to do with, first
37:31of all, they can't get him off the roster.
37:34For salary cap purposes, they have to keep him on the roster.
37:38And then he comes off next offseason. If they were to release him now, then he hurts their 2027 cap.
37:44So he's going to be on the team. It's just what they're going to do is they're going to let him play
37:51himself out of the job in two road games to start the season.
37:56And he's going to be terrible because he is terrible.
37:59And then they're going to come back home in week three and they're going to start Shador Sanders.
38:05And the entire Browns stadium is just going to erupt and he's going to be the hero.
38:10And I don't know if Shador Sanders is going to play well.
38:14He probably won't. Brandon Thorne has the Browns offensive line 31st in the NFL, which, by the way, it's a YouTube commenter.
38:22I need to address this. A YouTube commenter criticized me for using Brandon Thorne's, citing Brandon Thorne's offensive line rankings all the time.
38:29Like, you know, ETR pays Brandon Thorne for his offensive line rankings.
38:33And they're awesome. So, yes, I think that it's – I think I should be citing Brandon Thorne's offensive line rankings.
38:40And I'm going to continue despite the efforts of the YouTube commenters to stop me.
38:45But – so, Shador Sanders, I think, will start in week three in the home game in front of the home crowd.
38:52And it's going to be a great reception. We'll see how he plays.
38:56But I think that that's the plan if the Browns are smart.
39:00Now, knowing the Browns, they're not even this smart.
39:03But to me, this would be a smart plan.
39:06What do you think about how this affects the rest of them?
39:10Because nobody in redraft wants to click Browns, right?
39:13Like, Juggins, we have 58 overall. Actually, people do want to click Juggins.
39:17He's going 45 overall. But Fannin – actually, Fannin goes really high too.
39:21Wow, he goes 70th overall in redraft. We're at 94, but Concepcion, Boston, we are ahead of market on – any guys
39:29on Cleveland you actually want to draft? Evan Juggins, Fannin, Concepcion, Boston?
39:33Well, I know that we had it reserved for the end of the show.
39:37But KC Concepcion is a player that I moved up considerably.
39:41I think he's still – yeah, I think I kept him in the same tier.
39:46But I moved him up six spots. And I was getting him at 47 overall – I'm sorry, wide receiver 47.
39:53I'm like definitely going to get him now at wide receiver 41, which is where I moved him.
39:58I just – I think he's awesome. I think he's awesome.
40:02I think that Todd Monken thinks that KC Concepcion is awesome.
40:06I think that he's going to run a lot of high percentage stuff, which will make him at least a little bit quarterback proof.
40:14Whereas Denzel Boston, who – the buzz has sort of died on him a little bit.
40:19And it's really transferred over to KC Concepcion. Denzel Boston is going to run lower percentage stuff as an X receiver, you
40:26know, behind a bad offensive line with probably poor quarterback play.
40:30I don't know. Maybe he'll hit a few big plays over the course of the season.
40:35But I think that KC Concepcion is going to get the ball a lot.
40:39And he would be the Browns' priority target for me in all drafts.
40:44Okay, yeah, I like it. But very cheap for a round one wide receiver who has a ton of opportunity there in front of him.
40:52Two more notes for me on the Browns. First of all, I think they're going to have to throw away more this year.
40:59You know, no Miles Garrett. The defense is certainly worse.
41:03They are going to have to throw more this year.
41:06Obviously, that's built into our rankings. And second, just from like a team level perspective, they have some really young, nice pieces.
41:13They just need a quarterback. So like starting Watson, Shadur, winning three or four games, and then they go to this 2027
41:20draft class with one of the top picks. And they have the Rams first round pick.
41:26Also, by the way, like I actually like what Cleveland's doing from a team building perspective long term.
41:32It's just going to be tough this year for sure.
41:35Story 11, trade. Patriots trade Kayshawn Booty to the Texans.
41:38They send Jalen Reed and a round seven pick back to the Patriots.
41:42So, you know, Kayshawn Booty, the Patriots finally had something of a hit at the draft at wide receiver.
41:49They've been so bad at drafting wide receivers. Booty, I thought, was a hit for them relative to price.
41:55And yet they still trade him away for dust.
41:58Like it's still unclear to me why they felt the need to dump Kayshawn Booty so bad.
42:03And they didn't really get a lot back. They got a backup safety and a round seven pick.
42:09So, Evan, thoughts on this trade Booty to the Texans in the wake of Jaden Higgins' ACL tear?
42:15I read Mike Reese, one of the best beat writers for a long time, covering the Patriots.
42:21His synopsis of why the Patriots traded Kayshawn Booty.
42:24And it was just almost simply like a glut at receiver.
42:27You know, they traded for A.J. Brown. They gave Romeo Dobbs a big deal.
42:32Kyle Williams had gotten to the point. And I think that they still have some love for Kyle Williams.
42:38He had gotten to the point where he was like the wide receiver seven on the depth chart.
42:44And now he's going to be on the roster.
42:47They're not going to blow that, you know, they use a third round pick on him.
42:52So he's going to be on the team. If they had kept Kayshawn Booty, they would have had to keep seven wide receivers.
43:00And teams generally don't like to do that on their 53.
43:03Now, what they got for Kayshawn Booty, geez. I mean, that was absolutely nothing.
43:08I was thinking that there might be a little bit of a bidding war between the Saints and the Texans.
43:14Obviously, there was not an awesome move for the Texans.
43:18But, yeah, I mean, from the Patriots, I did move up Romeo Dobbs.
43:22I moved up real – he only moved up one spot because I think that this solidifies Romeo Dobbs as like a
43:29true every down player who's going to play outside and maybe a little bit of slot.
43:34But just pulling – like it takes away some threat of a big wide receiver rotation.
43:40Because Kayshawn Booty, if he'd be on the team, like he's so good down the field that he would have had a role.
43:47I think that it can be a little bit more streamlined for Romeo Dobbs to where he is a true every down
43:54player without Kayshawn Booty on the team. Yeah, we're at 118 overall on Dobbs.
43:59And it's not a fun click. It's not a sexy click.
44:03But I think it's, you know, a fine click, a solid pick.
44:06I think they're going to roll with A.J. Brown and Dobbs on almost every snap.
44:11And then Pop Douglas will be the main slot man.
44:15Obviously, you're going to have Matt Hollins and Kai Williams and guys like that also in the mix.
44:21But I think the primary will be A.J. Brown, Dobbs, and Pop Douglas.
44:25As for the Texans, I think Tank Dell is in trouble.
44:28And I hate to say that because I was, you know, rooting for him.
44:33But it sounds like he's in trouble, has not been able to sustain any type of practice schedule or playing games or anything like that.
44:41Off of the devastating knee injury a couple years ago.
44:44Jalen Knoll, I think the best case is like a slot plus role in a best case scenario.
44:50And then they still like Xavier Hutchinson. So I think they're going to rotate Kayshawn Booty and Xavier Hutchinson opposite Nico some.
44:58Obviously, Xavier Hutchinson is going to be the better run blocker.
45:01Booty is going to be the far better receiver and deep threat.
45:05But I'm not really excited about drafting Booty or Xavier Hutchinson here on a team that's going to be defense and run oriented, I think.
45:13Yeah, I do think it's great news for Nico Collins, who we drafted in that FFPC draft with Leone.
45:20We got him in the third round. I thought he was an absolute steal there.
45:24The history of Xavier Hutchinson and Kayshawn Booty are really low targets per route run.
45:29Now, Kayshawn Booty can actually do something when he gets targeted.
45:33And he can take the lid off a little bit.
45:36Xavier Hutchinson is like pure possession. He's big. He'll block.
45:40But he's not going to command targets. And really, neither is Kayshawn Booty.
45:44Nico Collins will command targets. I think that he could compete for the NFL lead in air yard share, in target share this year.
45:52I think that this was a positive move for Nico Collins.
45:55You brought up during the draft that we did the possibility of, hey, you know, hey, Jaden Higgins gets eliminated by the ACL.
46:03And then, you know, does that actually bode poorly for Nico Collins, even though his projectable all of a sudden goes to just out the friggin roof?
46:12Well, now there's at least, you know, someone who can pass for a decent number two receiver on the team.
46:18So maybe that mitigates the loss of Jaden Higgins as it pertains to Nico Collins.
46:23I just, I thought this even before any of this stuff happened, that we've seen Nico Collins be great for stretches, but never for a full season.
46:32And I think that things are adding up for Nico Collins to be great for a full season in 2026.
46:39He's a great player. I mean, no doubt, underrated, one of the best wide receivers in the NFL.
46:44The reason why I feel much better about him in round three than like mid-round two is just the way the Texans are going to play.
46:53I do not see them getting into shootouts. I see them winning games 17 to 14.
46:58It's not going to be like the Lions where they're out there throwing the ball 45 times in a game and trying
47:05to score 40 points, 45 points or the Bengals and stuff like that.
47:10So I just think there's a bit of a, like Nico finishing as an actual top three, top five fantasy wide receiver would surprise me just on environment.
47:19But he's an awesome player with an incredible role.
47:22And I was thrilled to get him early round three there in that draft that we did.
47:27Oh, story 12 also comes out of Houston. So this is John Alexander of the Houston Chronicle says that David Montgomery and
47:35Woody Marks might not be 50-50, but it will be close.
47:38So I guess my question is just, Evan, do you buy this quote here from John Alexander about 50-50 or something close between Woody Marks and David Montgomery?
47:47I buy that it has looked like it might be that way if you're watching Texans practice as John Alexander has been doing.
47:55But I don't buy that this is how it's going to be when, you know, the stuff hits the fan and when they're trying to win ballgames.
48:04And they're trying to win close because there's a defensive-oriented team who isn't going to score a ton of points, is going
48:11to play in a lot of games that are decided by one score.
48:15And they're going to want David Montgomery, the dog that he is, out there over Woody Marks.
48:21I'm sure that they'll sprinkle in Woody Marks. But to say that it's 50-50, I think that that's absolutely crazy.
48:27But it does make sense for that to be happening in practice because David Montgomery is aging and they're getting ready to
48:34saddle him up for as many touches as he can absolutely handle.
48:38So it makes sense for them to take some of his practice load off and give it to Woody Marks, who is
48:46a decent player in his own right and very much draftable.
48:49One of the better handcuffs in fantasy with maybe a little bit, a little bit of standing on that.
48:55Yeah, totally agree with Evan. We didn't make a move on this at all.
49:00And we're still at 52 overall on David Montgomery.
49:03I get that this report said or this take was that it could be 50-50.
49:08I could read off to you right now about 10 other reports, quote-unquote reports, out of Houston from the last few months
49:15about Dave Montgomery being a full-down workhorse, a full three-down workhorse.
49:19So no, I'm not buying this. And the other thing that I'd say, I mean, Woody Marks had his chance last year.
49:26He was horrific. He averaged 3.6 yards per carry.
49:29I'm not saying it was all his fault, but he was really bad last year.
49:34So like, we've seen it. I think they're going to go full workhorse on Dave Montgomery.
49:39And I think one of the reasons people are talking about Woody Marks now is he had a good preseason game.
49:46And like, again, preseason performance doesn't really move the needle for me at all.
49:50So he had a pretty good preseason game. Now we get Woody Marks hype.
49:55I think that's one to kind of fade. Story 13, Dolphins rookie wide receiver Chris Bell coming off the ACL tear.
50:02He sheds his non-contact jersey. He might play preseason week three.
50:06He has a legit chance to play week one.
50:09I remember we talked about Chris Bell during the draft process, Evan.
50:12And people were saying Chris Bell is going to be out for the year.
50:17You know, hopefully he comes back in 2027 because he tore his Achilles while playing for Louisville in November of 2026.
50:24I mean, I'm sorry, November of 2025. So it seems like a fast recovery, but everybody's getting back fast now.
50:30Thoughts on Chris Bell perhaps being ready to play week one?
50:34It was not his Achilles. It was his ACL.
50:37Did I say Achilles? I meant ACL. I'm sorry.
50:40Yes. Yes. But there is a difference there. But either way, awesome, awesome recovery for Chris Bell.
50:46I don't know what to think. You know, I don't really know what to think.
50:50I know that Caleb Douglas, it looks like Caleb Douglas, the Dolphins third round pick, is going to be a week one starter.
50:58And maybe the Dolphins number one receiver from the get go.
51:02But I don't know. You know, because it's such a blank slate for Chris Bell and because of those pre-training camp assumptions
51:09and pre-draft assumptions that were made about Chris Bell, it hasn't fully registered.
51:13But I'm not sure that he has enough time to work into any kind of a week one role.
51:19It's really nice for his recovery and really nice for the Dolphins, who need some help.
51:25They need some good fortune. I think that Malik Washington and Caleb Douglas will be the primary wide receivers at the beginning of the season, September, maybe October.
51:34However, there were people who thought Chris Bell was the best wide receiver prospect in this class.
51:39And if he had never torn his ACL, might have been a top 10 pick or something like that.
51:45And so I do not want to discount Chris Bell just winning out on talent at the end of the year.
51:52And so I do think he's an interesting round 18, 19, 20 type pick here right now, even though Malik Willis is his quarterback.
52:00A couple other more small ones here. Story 14, the Cowboys running back to battle continues.
52:05Jaden Blue versus Malik Davis versus Phil Mafa. There are a lot of reports out there right now, Evan, that Jaden Blue is losing momentum in this battle.
52:15Saw some coaches call him out somewhat. They're talking up Malik Willis.
52:19I've kind of backed off of Jaden Blue. Evan, are you getting any queasy here on Blue and thoughts on Cowboys backfield backup spot?
52:26I pulled Jaden Blue out of my 150. And that sort of saddens me because I've been drafting him a good amount.
52:34I thought he was a great late round flyer with all the explosiveness that he brings to the table and the offensive environment.
52:41And the way that, I mean, he was a madman from a touchdown scoring standpoint at Texas.
52:47And he could catch passes. So Jaden Blue on paper looks like a really, really sexy fantasy prospect.
52:53And when he gets on the practice field, like he's doing things that do not endear him to coaches.
52:59And Malik Davis is a player who seems like he does everything right when it comes to the coach.
53:05I think at the end of the day, and this may be a little bit of my confirmation bias, admittedly, because I've been really high on Javante Williams.
53:14To me, it just solidifies that Javante Williams is going to have one of the highest usage rates among NFL running backs
53:21this season because the Cowboys have not even settled on who their number two running back is.
53:27Yeah. I mean, we've taken Jaden Blue out of a draftable range, which makes me sad also.
53:33I thought there was a chance he would have a standalone role with a chance for more in the, with a chance
53:40for a lot more in the event of an injury similar to Keaton Mitchell.
53:44I just don't know that he does. And like, I don't know how much standalone role he's going to get.
53:51And if Javante went down, I think we'd see a lot of Malik Davis and a little bit of Jaden Blue and maybe some Mafa also.
53:59So we've kind of take Jaden Blue out of a draftable range.
54:03Sucks. Story 15, Green Bay. It doesn't mean he's dead.
54:07I mean, he could still come back alive at some point, but entering the season, you can't feel confident.
54:13He could be inactive in week one. Story 15 out of Green Bay.
54:17Luke Musgrave. Beat writers are expecting Luke Musgrave to start the year on PUP.
54:22Packers are extremely thin at tight end. A lot of roster projections I've seen for them have them rolling with only three tight ends on their 53.
54:31Tucker Craft, who's coming off an ACL. Josh Wiley and Drake Dabney.
54:35With that tight end room, you don't have a choice but to go three wide receiver sets a ton.
54:41And without Dontavian Wicks and Romeo Dobbs on the team anymore, you can't rotate that much.
54:46So this to me is like the cleanest setup of Jaden Reed's career by a decent amount.
54:52We're up to 78 overall now on Jaden Reed.
54:55Evan, any more Packers thoughts here coming out of camp?
54:58Yeah. Speaking of confirmation bias, I mean, this is just really, I love it.
55:02You know, because I mean, I've been on the Packers are going to be a three receiver, one tight end team from the get go.
55:11And also, you remember those comments that Tucker Craft made where, oh, they're going to ease me in for the first half of the season?
55:19Like, are you sure they're going to be able to ease you in?
55:23Like, I'm not sure that the Packers are going to be able to do that.
55:28And they're going to need, Tucker Craft can block.
55:31They're going to need him to help the offensive line.
55:34And they're going to need to throw a lot of passes, a lot of short passes to guys like Jaden Reed and
55:41Christian Watson and Matthew Golden to mitigate the pass protection issues.
55:45And I think that Jordan Love can execute that.
55:48But yeah, and I think that they're going to be playing from behind more.
55:53Like, just everything is adding up for the Packers to really be one of the highest percentage three receiver teams in the NFL.
56:00Excited for Jaden Reed and really all the Packers wide receivers for sure.
56:04Watson and Golden also. And Marshawn Lloyd, the Yeet Cannon, looking good in preseason as well.
56:10He scored a touchdown on a little arrow route out of the backfield.
56:14I mean, you can tell he's crazy athletic and strong and big.
56:18And yeah, it's amazing. He's been staying healthy. Um, okay.
56:21Last story here before we get to preseason usage stuff out of Rams camp.
56:26So Nate Atkins, who covers the Rams for the athletic does a great job.
56:30He noted, you know, what I think everybody's been talking about out of Rams camp.
56:35Terrence Ferguson has been lining up at F, Y, X, and Z.
56:39Like basically wide receiver positions and tight end positions.
56:42Atkins is saying that it's very clear path that Ferguson has a chance to finish third on the Rams in catches and
56:49yards behind only Devante Adams and Puka Nakua. I don't like there's been so much Terrence Ferguson hype.
56:55I think he's an awesome, awesome pick. I don't think I want to go into the season with him as my starter in redraft.
57:03But he's like the perfect, let me get a look at usage in week one and week two on my bench kind of play.
57:11If he does live up to the hype, if he's used as a wide receiver three, we'll know early.
57:17If not, you know, we can drop him. So I just want to note that on Terrence Ferguson is like the kind
57:24of player I want on my redraft bench. Evan, are you buying all this T-Ferg hype here with just two weeks to go before the season?
57:33Yeah, I mean, the only thing about that is that I don't – I think that his usage could really fluctuate week to week.
57:41Like in week one, maybe he only runs 12 routes.
57:44The next week, maybe he runs 27. You know, I just – I don't know about that.
57:49He's a very, very intriguing prospect though. And you could build a case for him because the Rams, I mean, they're getting older.
57:57You know, they're getting older. Devontae Adams, Matthew Stafford, they don't have a whole lot of explosiveness on offense.
58:03They don't really have explosiveness in the backfield. That's why I think that Blake Corum will take another step this year.
58:10You know, Devontae Adams is not explosive like he used to be.
58:14Pukunakua is an absolute insane baller. But I don't – you know, he's not like a lid lifter.
58:20You know, he's not a lid-popping wide receiver. Whereas Terrence Ferguson is a potential vertical threat at tight end.
58:26And so I don't know. I think that he's a player whose usage could really change.
58:31Yeah, that's totally fair. And, you know, it could be game plan specific.
58:36Also, we know that McVay is willing to do stuff like that.
58:40I found this quote also in that same article.
58:43And this was from Nate Atkins. He said, Devontae Adams looks, quote-unquote, fresh and explosive, was virtually uncoverable in joint practices against the Cowboys and Saints.
58:51One thing about Devontae Adams is there has been, like, no news around him, no injury stuff.
58:57I feel like people are just getting bored. Like, we haven't talked about Devontae Adams that much because there hasn't been news.
59:04But we've been pretty solidly ahead of market all offseason on Devontae Adams.
59:08At one time, we were, like, around and a half ahead on him.
59:12Market has come to us here a little bit.
59:15Evan, how are you feeling on Devontae Adams coming into this season?
59:19He's been a guy that I've been avoiding. He lived off touchdowns last season.
59:24He had one game over 90 yards. So, he could live off touchdowns again.
59:28I mean, they're going to call plays for him in scoring position.
59:32But in terms of, like, you know, getting back to the days of Devontae Adams getting 1,200 yards, like, that's not happening.
59:40I mean, he hasn't even had 1,000. He hasn't had over 1,063 yards since 2023.
59:44So, I think that he's, like, one of the most touchdown-dependent players in fans.
59:49You know, you don't have to pay a huge cost for him.
59:53His home league ADP is around 56 overall. ETR ranks are at 44 overall on Devontae Adams.
59:59Like, it's just hard. There are not that many places for the ball to go.
60:03And the offense is going to smash. Like Evan said, they don't have that many weapons.
60:09But they're going to score a ton of points.
60:12And when you start getting into that, it's hard not to come away with a big projection on Devontae Adams.
60:18All right. Let's go to some preseason usage stuff here quickly, Evan.
60:22Story 17, Jets wide receiver usage. So, Geno did play.
60:25Garrett Wilson played every snap with Geno. Aidy Mitchell played every snap with Geno except for two.
60:31And in this one, Omar Cooper was slot, not Isaiah Williams.
60:35But my bigger point is just it seems locked to me that Garrett Wilson and Aidy Mitchell are going to be every down players.
60:42Garrett Wilson goes in, like, middle of round four in redraft.
60:46People just don't want to take Jets. I think that's a very, very good bet.
60:51And again, another reason you can start running back heavy because guys like Garrett Wilson are available in the middle of round four.
60:59So, Evan, any thoughts on Garrett Wilson, Aidy Mitchell, or anything else from Jets wide receiver stuff?
61:04These are guys that I will consider when they fall past their ADPs.
61:08You know, not guys that I'm going out of my way to draft.
61:13You know, even down to Bryce Hall, Brees Hall at this point.
61:17I'm not sure I trust Frank Reich. I mean, I definitely don't trust Frank Reich.
61:21And also, you know, we are really leaning on Geno Smith here because the next guy up on the depth chart for the Jets is Cade Klubnik.
61:30And the guy after that is Brady Cook, who did go to my high school.
61:35But, I mean, I don't think he has a future in the NFL.
61:39So, if Geno Smith is not competent, like for 17 games, you know, these guys are going to be screwed.
61:46So, this is just, it's an offense where I am not going out of my way to draft anybody.
61:52I think cost reflects that to some degree on Garrett Wilson.
61:56Like, Garrett Wilson is such a good player with such a huge target earning ability.
62:01With any other quarterback, he'd be going late round two, round three.
62:05Now, if Geno Smith is competent, like these dudes could smash.
62:08I mean, I have a bunch of A.D. Mitchell in best ball.
62:12But, and I think he, I think the way that Geno Smith plays, like A.D.
62:17Mitchell, that kind of suit, that kind of a great fit in theory.
62:21I just, the reports on Geno Smith in training camp have been a little bit ugly.
62:27And that scares me because everything was ugly this past year with the Raiders.
62:31Undoubtedly, undoubtedly, yeah. Okay, story 18 comes from preseason also.
62:34So, this Ted Arroyo-McMillan slot rate spiking, I think, is notable.
62:38So, Jack tweeted about this. Ted Arroyo-McMillan slot rate as a rookie with the Panthers in 2025 was just 15%.
62:45In two preseason games, Ted Arroyo-McMillan slot rate has been 41%.
62:48It is preseason, but that is a very, very good sign.
62:52Evan, do you buy that Ted Arroyo-McMillan can play the slot this year for the Panthers?
62:57And does that affect your outlook on him? Yeah, I'm already starting to think about, you know, what am I going to
63:04write about for each player in my matchups column for week one?
63:08And this is going to be the big note probably on Ted McMillan.
63:12And, you know, for a team that is missing both of their starting offensive tackles and, you know, has an undersized quarterback
63:20and, you know, just all kinds of obstacles on offense.
63:23To put Ted McMillan, a big physical player in the middle of the field and give him higher percentage stuff to run, I love it.
63:31You know, that's one of the ways that Ted McMillan can overcome playing in an offensive environment like this.
63:37So, I absolutely love to see it. I mean, a 40% slot rate would be awesome for Ted McMillan.
63:44And I'm not sure that I'm buying that he's going to hit 41% during the regular season, but anything above like 30 would be excellent.
63:52For sure. Yeah, he's another wide receiver that's available there in round four that people don't really love clicking because he plays for a bad team.
64:00And, you know, that's playing for bad teams is not good.
64:04But again, it should be all baked in. Oh, story 19.
64:08So, the Broncos starters did play the first drive in their preseason game.
64:12It was Jalen Waddell and Cortland Sutton as every down wide receivers.
64:16Waddell had a really nice catch for a huge gain.
64:19Pat Bryant came on in three wide receiver sets, mostly in a slot role.
64:24I think this was kind of as expected. You know, there's been speculation Bryant can steal snaps from Sutton.
64:30I don't think that's happening early in the season.
64:33But Bryant coming on and playing kind of a slot role is somewhat intriguing.
64:37And then Jalen Waddell is the one, Evan. People just keep clicking this guy.
64:42His ADP is up now to 35 overall in redraft on Jalen Waddell.
64:46Starting to get pricey there on him. Thoughts on Broncos wide receivers coming out of their preseason game.
64:52Yeah, geez. I have Jalen Waddell at 42. And I've been getting a decent amount of him.
64:58But I didn't do any drafts this particular week.
65:01But I have noticed that the buzz on him has really been growing.
65:05And, God, that surprises me because I feel like people hate Jalen Waddell.
65:09Let me correct this, actually. I'm looking at our other ADP set now, which is kind of a blend of a bunch of season-long sites.
65:17And Waddell ADP there is 47. That's a good price to me on Waddell there at 47.
65:23All right. I love that. I mean, then I'm above ADP again on him.
65:27Yeah. I mean, I'm good with that. I like it.
65:31But Jalen Waddell is going to be the clear number one receiver.
65:35Sean Payton gave up a one and a three for him.
65:38You know, they're going to – I mean, I think he's a great fit for Bo Nix.
65:44Yeah. And they're like – they can get really pass-happy at times, you know?
65:48I mean, really pass-happy. Yes, they can. When they're pushed, which, I mean, look, you know, offense has the advantage over –
65:56we think the Broncos are going to have a top three to five defense.
66:00But at the end of the day, like, offense almost always has the advantage over defenses in the NFL.
66:06So when games get pushed, like, Jalen Waddell can absolutely go to the base.
66:11Last note from preseason, Caleb Williams and the Bears starters, or most of them, did play nine snaps for Caleb.
66:18Colson Loveland was on the field for eight of them.
66:21That is just a continuation from the end of last season when Loveland finally ascended to a huge role.
66:27So I know you're super high on Colson Loveland.
66:30I like Colson Loveland a lot here too, Evan.
66:33He goes in kind of like the early 40s range.
66:36But I think that's fair. And that was kind of the point I was trying to make in some of the strategy
66:43articles that are in the draft kit. Some of these prices on Fannin and Kraft and Laporta to me are unfair.
66:50I don't think Loveland is a bargain, but I think his price is at least fair.
66:56So that makes him somewhat of a target depending what site you're playing on.
67:00But yeah, Evan, any thoughts on the Bears preseason game or the usage from Loveland?
67:05I just think that the Bears are going to go absolutely ballistic on offense this year.
67:10And Ben Johnson wants that. And that's what's going to happen.
67:14Before we get out of here, a few ranking changes that Silva made here.
67:19We mentioned the Concepcion one already. Evan talked through that.
67:22Evan did add Trey Tucker to the top 150, making his, I believe, his debut this season in the top 150 for Trey Tucker.
67:30Evan, talk to the people about that move. Yeah, I maybe should have had him in the 150 before.
67:36But part of me thinks that I shouldn't have because he's been in the league.
67:41And he's had a couple of big games here and there, but never any kind of consistency in the way that he's built.
67:48I mean, he's a small guy. You can understand why, playing with suboptimal offensive environments.
67:53But I think that this offensive environment with Kirk, whether it's Kirk Cousins or Fernando Mendoza under center, and getting back Colton
68:00Miller and adding Tyler Linderbaum, maybe we can get some functionality out of the Raiders offense this year under Clint Kubiak.
68:07I think that we will. And Trey Tucker has, by all accounts, won the Raiders' number one receiver job.
68:14So he's a player that should be rostered in all leagues, even if it's at the very end of the bench.
68:20Yeah, I mean, I thought that Naylor was the one that they went out and the new regime signed and they were
68:28going to try to, you know, get him to be their guy.
68:32Trey Tucker has been the one they've been most excited about and seemingly has won the job.
68:37Again, Naylor played in that preseason game. Trey Tucker did not.
68:41He got to rest with the rest of the starters.
68:44So, yeah. Oh, here's an interesting one. Evan moved Carnell Tate down from wide receiver 36 to wide receiver 46 in his rankings.
68:52Pretty drastic move here, Evan. Why the dump on Carnell Tate?
68:55Well, in the drafts that I've been doing before considering doing this, I had started to get to the point where I
69:02was starting to get a little bit of Carnell Tate.
69:06And I was like, I don't really want any Carnell Tate.
69:09I don't want any Titans really at all except for Wandale Robinson, which is gross in and of itself, but also kind
69:16of a dichotomy of what the Titans are going through right now.
69:20I mean, Brandon Thorne, you know, sorry to cite Brandon Thorne, but he has the Titans as the worst offensive line in the league.
69:28And there has been nothing positive to take away from Cam Ward in the preseason after a very rough rookie year.
69:35So, I don't want Carnell Tate this year. Yeah, and his ADP is around 74 right now is Carnell Tate, which for
69:42a guy who went fourth overall in the draft is like crazy low.
69:47So, it's just, yeah, I struggle to make a bull case for Carnell Tate here also.
69:52Last one, Silva did move Travion Henderson down a little bit in the ranks.
69:56I just want to note for people, and I know we're not doing Market Monday and doing this instead.
70:03Ramondre Stevenson continues to be going higher and Travion is going lower to the point where they're almost crossing now and Ramondre
70:10is going to go ahead of Travion here soon.
70:13So, Evan, thoughts on Patriots backfield and moving Travion down?
70:16Yeah, I dipped Travion down a little bit. They are both in the same tier.
70:21Travion Henderson and Ramondre Stevenson are both in my sixth tier.
70:25You know, I'm not going to dismiss the fact that Travion Henderson was a high second-round pick who had over 1,000 yards
70:32from scrimmage and 10 touchdowns as a rookie. Despite what seems like, it seems like he's struggled in training camp.
70:38I don't know. But, I mean, Ramondre Stevenson also seems like he's done everything right.
70:43But the talent of Travion Henderson, and no one's going to start Travion Henderson.
70:48Diggle said this well on our running back show.
70:51No one's going to start Travion Henderson in week one.
70:54But as the season progresses, I think that by a hair now, Travion Henderson will be the running back to own in New England.
71:02But it's going to take some time. It's going to take some time for that to happen because Ramondre Stevenson is going
71:09to be like a decent low-end RB2, strong flex play to begin the year.
71:14And then sort of we'll see what happens. Travion Henderson is really, really talented, though.
71:19And if he can just start to do the things right that he's been doing wrong from pass protection to, you know,
71:26whatever it is, like he should be the guy that gets the ball more as the season progresses.
71:32We saw what Travion Henderson did last year with Ramondre Stevenson out of the lineup.
71:37I mean, at worst, you're going to get that.
71:40I don't want to completely give up on Travion, but from a role perspective, Ramondre is going to open the season with a better role than Travion.
71:48You know, there's just absolutely no doubt. All right.
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72:16Good luck, everybody.