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1:24Swat play! Can you believe this? No, I can't.
1:27It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet.
1:32He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
1:38Looking to draft a surprising breakout wide receiver. Maybe a guy like Makai Lemon.
1:42The rookie, Jaden Reed, hopefully getting some more playing time.
1:45Josh Downs. How about Alec Pierce, Cortland Sutton, Quinton Johnston, Chris Godwin, Jacoby Myers, Wondell Robinson.
1:50There are more. These are just some of the wide receivers who are being drafted, according to Fantasy Pros.
1:56PPR consensus ADP in rounds seven through nine. We welcome you to Fantasy Football Today.
2:01Adam Azer with Dave Richard. What's up, Dave Richard?
2:04I'm looking forward to this conversation because I think we're going to have some good depth at the wide receiver position.
2:10And these are the rounds where you can chase it versus the crappy running backs that were around when we talked about them a day prior.
2:18Focus on these receivers. Jamie, is this just depth?
2:21Or do we have some league winners in rounds seven through nine, Jamie Eisenberg?
2:26There will be some league winners, but I think you're drafting them for depth at the start.
2:31Fair. Yeah. And what's interesting is that you're much further into the wide receiver pool than you are running backs.
2:37We're talking about wide receivers 36 through 49 in ADP.
2:40Whereas when we start with Tony Pollard yesterday, he was running back 28.
2:44And we finished with J.K. Dobbins, who was running back 38.
2:48So round seven starts with wide receiver 36. Round nine ends with wide receiver 49.
2:52Round nine ended with running back 36. Or 38, excuse me.
2:56So you're deeper into the wide receiver pool, but you still have really good players.
3:01And guys, the first point... What? I don't know why I was on.
3:05The look when Thomas realized he was on was amazing.
3:08Oh, Thomas Shaver just showing up. Let's talk about round seven through nine wide receivers.
3:12Thomas just did a WTF when he realized it, but he mouthed it out loud.
3:17All right. The most important thing for you to know about these wide receivers is that if you're going to get a
3:24guy who finishes top 24, either per game or overall, almost all of them, the ones who come out of this group
3:31and finish top 24, almost all of them averaged seven or more targets per game.
3:35Last year, for example, that was Chris Olave. Stefan Diggs did not.
3:39He was a rare exception. But over the last nine seasons, 26 wide receivers drafted in this range have been top 24 per game.
3:47And 21 of them have averaged at least seven targets per game.
3:50So look at the list. Sutton, Johnston, Pierce, Godwin, Pittman, Lemon, Michael Wilson, Jaden Reed, Downs, Pearsall, Jacoby Myers, Addison, Wondell Robinson, Xavier Worthy.
3:58Dave, who could average seven targets per game? I don't know if I'm comfortable saying anybody that you've named can average seven targets per game.
4:06I think the guys that could come closest might be on the same team.
4:10It might be in Indianapolis because we know that Michael Pittman's gone, leaves a ton of targets behind.
4:16I think they're going to consolidate. And I think Downs and Pierce could each get close to that number of seven targets per game.
4:23Jamie, any candidates here? Godwin. I think depending on how you view Michael Wilson, but I don't think I'll get to seven.
4:30Wondell certainly could, but that's the top. You know what?
4:33You're right. Wondell absolutely could. With Carnell Tate, if he's legit, then no.
4:37I think, you know, seven is probably the ceiling for most of these guys.
4:42The problem with Wondell getting past seven, and he's been past eight each of the last two years, is that he just
4:49doesn't do a ton after the catch. You're drafting him because of specifically the catches and the points you get with him in full PPR.
4:56But I'm looking forward to talking to him. He's somebody I'm targeting.
5:00Yeah, and he's one of the last guys in this group.
5:04He's wide receiver 48 and ADP. And remember, I said that's to finish top 24.
5:08None of these guys are being drafted anywhere really near that.
5:12So you don't need them to average seven targets per game in order to return value here.
5:17All right, so we're going to get into these guys in just a moment.
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6:24Group chat stats. Some fun fantasy football facts that you can tell your...
6:28Why don't you say it around the water cooler?
6:31Because you told me I stole it. You shamed me.
6:34I much prefer water cooler stats. I like where you went with it.
6:38I like group chat stats better. All right, group chat stats.
6:42Your fantasy football group chat. Go ahead and tell them.
6:4521st century. Tell them. Why can't it be like Slack chats?
6:48No. Only people at work Slack. Not everybody has Slack.
6:51Yeah, come on. Like WhatsApp chats? You can have a group chat on WhatsApp and on Slack.
6:57These are group chat stats, Jamie. What's the green zone?
7:00You're starting to devolve into some other chat platforms that might not be suitable for this show.
7:05All right. Tell your group chat that Michael Wilson averaged 21.2 PPR fantasy points per game in his last 10 games.
7:12That is basically what JSN averaged last year for the full season.
7:15That's amazing. That's amazing. It is amazing, but I don't think that that encapsulates who he is.
7:21Like you call me out all the time when I give a stat that you can further Azer stat.
7:27Yeah, of course. And there were a bunch of games that he played late in the year with Marvin Harrison Jr.
7:33Almost all of his big games came when Marvin Harrison Jr.
7:37was sidelined. Yeah, yeah. Oh, for sure. But it's just seven games with him and Brissett and Marvin.
7:42He was at 10.2 PPR points per game, 5.7 targets per game.
7:46Yeah. But, I mean, it's just amazing what he did.
7:49I mean, I don't think there's any scenario where Marvin Harrison Jr.
7:53would have averaged 21.2 PPR points per game. I think that's kind of the point.
7:57And also, he was even better than Trey McBride in that stretch.
8:01All right. Over the last three seasons, group chat, Jaden Reed has 34 carries.
8:06Six of them have gone for 20 or more yards.
8:09He has twice as many 20-plus yard runs as Alvin Kamara and Ashton Gentty over the last three seasons.
8:15Gentty only one year, but Kamara three years. Also, Jaden Reed is second among wide receivers in fantasy points per target over the last three years.
8:23Now, number one is Jalen McMillan. Number four is Tim Patrick.
8:26But Reed actually has a lot of targets compared to those guys.
8:30So, I mentioned, and if you listen to the, if you just watched the Mailbag Show, I gave these stats.
8:36But Jaden Reed has been one of the most efficient wide receivers in football since he entered the league.
8:42Jamie, Cortland Sutton. If he's going to be good this year, and he's wide receiver 36 in ADP right now, he needs to score touchdowns.
8:50Well, over the last three seasons, Sutton is sixth in touchdowns among wide receivers.
8:54He's 15th in targets. Fifth in red zone targets.
8:5712th in green zone targets. Third in end zone targets.
9:00Do you think Cortland Sutton can keep that role?
9:03Because that's not really been Jalen Waddell's strength is the end zone targets.
9:07Whereas Cortland Sutton, 25 targets in the last three years.
9:1025 touchdowns. 22 of them were thrown to the end zone.
9:14I think he still leads the Broncos in touchdowns, but he loses everywhere else because of Jalen Waddell.
9:19So, that's the thing that's going to save him is, you know, you're hoping that he becomes a version of Devontae Adams.
9:26If you're going to still buy into Cortland Sutton.
9:29But this is a good spot to take a chance on him, this range.
9:33And Dave Waddell Robinson has two straight seasons with 140 targets.
9:37He was wide receiver 47 per game in 2024 and wide receiver 17 per game in 2025.
9:42Both times he had 140 targets. What changed? He had a bit of a higher ADOT.
9:47He had more end zone targets. He averaged more yards per catch.
9:51But, you know, anybody getting 140 targets is a must-draft player way before round nine.
9:56I don't know if he'll get there again, but it is amazing just how different his two seasons were.
10:01He's averaged 8.2 targets per game in his last 38 games in this offense.
10:06He was drafted by Brian Dable. He has followed Brian Dable to Tennessee.
10:10The Titans receiving core added Carnell Tate in the draft.
10:13They still have Calvin Ridley. They still have a couple of guys that they took last year who were rookies.
10:19I think he's an easy plug-and-play for the Titans offense.
10:22And he'll be an easy short area target for Cam Ward to lean on.
10:27And it would not surprise me at least if he continued to average eight targets per game.
10:32Man, that's a lot of targets. Jordan Addison is another guy that's in this group.
10:37We just talked about Waddell Robinson. How about Jordan Addison?
10:40Jordan Addison has ranked 55th or worse in targets per route run among wide receivers with 50 or more targets in all three of his NFL seasons.
10:48So a lot of numbers there, but the bottom line is Jordan Addison just does not command a lot of targets.
10:55He needs to score touchdowns to be good. And he's been pretty good at scoring touchdowns in two or three seasons.
11:01And finally, Chris Godwin. Now, real quick here. If you are watching the show live and you just watched the mailbag, then
11:08you know we recorded the Wednesday mailbag before this show.
11:11If you're listening, you're going to hear a lot of the same stuff about Chris Godwin that I was on Wednesday's mailbag
11:18show that I'm about to say now. But Chris Godwin was a top six wide receiver per game in all three formats in 2024.
11:26He was not top 50 per game last year.
11:29Jamie, who's the real Chris Godwin? Somewhere in between.
11:31You know, I'm curious how much he's going to line up inside because that's typically been his best role is playing the slot.
11:39And so when you have Emeka Abuka and you have Jalen McMillan and we'll see what Ted Hurst does and obviously new
11:45play caller and Zach Robinson, where they put Godwin I think is going to matter a lot here.
11:51So you're seeing a lot. You know, I mean, obviously we can't be naive to the fact that our audience only reads and pays attention to us.
12:00You know, you guys are, I'm sure, seeing a lot of other publications that are hyping up Chris Godwin as the best receiver in Tampa Bay.
12:08And that makes some sense because of what his rapport is with Baker Mayfield and what his track record has been.
12:14So I think this is a great spot to take a chance on Chris Godwin.
12:19I think he's going to exceed his ADP. But I don't think he's going to be a top six fantasy receiver.
12:25And I certainly don't think he's going to be as bad as he was last year because as we've seen from him,
12:32there is a track record, now granted he's older, of him almost taking two years to recover from significant injuries.
12:39And so if that happens again, then we're getting a pretty good version of what Chris Godwin can be.
12:44So in this spot, I would take a chance on him, but I wouldn't be reaching for him much sooner than this.
12:51Much earlier than this. Yeah. And you're right about the slot rate for Chris Godwin.
12:56It was about 48% last year, which is low for him when he's been at his best.
13:01He's got five really good to great PPR seasons.
13:04His slot rate's been over 55% all those years.
13:07All right. We only have one news item that I saw, unless you want to throw in some others.
13:13But Jeff Howe of The Athletic says that we should be prepared for Chris Rodriguez to be an important part of the Jacksonville.
13:20Jacksonville offense. Anyway, Dave, right now, as we take a quick break from wide receivers, Bejal Tootin is on Fantasy Pros RB 24, and he's in round five.
13:29Whereas Chris Rodriguez is RB 43 in round 12.
13:32What's better value? Tootin in round five or Rodriguez in round 12?
13:35I guess it's Rodriguez in round 12, provided that he's healthy when training camp starts.
13:40It sounds like he will be. His profile suggests that he's a good short yardage goal line running back, but the stats
13:47say Tootin was better in that role last year.
13:50I would be nervous about those two becoming an ambiguous duo in the backfield.
13:54We touched on this in the mailbag episode, but we didn't really speak too much on Jacksonville being one of those backfields
14:01that you could potentially draft the pair and have a starter each week.
14:05I just don't know how effective the one starter will be because they could be very much like what Chicago was last
14:12year, where there's just weeks where one of the running backs is great.
14:16The other one leaves you hanging and you don't know which one it's going to be from week to week.
14:22It could go that way in Jacksonville. Frank in the chat says, I'm totally out on Jacksonville's backfield.
14:28This feels like such a mess, Jamie. I mean, it's it's potentially a mess.
14:32I mean, you know, you you lose a guy like, you know, Travis Etienne at the time, Travis HN, and they didn't
14:39really do a lot to replace him. I I'll go back to what I said yesterday or the other show, whatever data about Alvin Kamara and James Conner.
14:48Like this feels like a destination for those guys or one of those guys, because it would add a veteran presence that
14:55has maybe the opportunity for a little more pop than those two guys are certainly a better resume than those two guys.
15:02But Chris Rodriguez, as we've talked about, has a history with Liam Cohen.
15:06It's part of the reason why he was the fallback plan.
15:09They did want J.K. Dobbins. That was recently reported.
15:12It was something that I heard as well. And so, you know, if if they went out and tried to get somebody
15:19else and failed, then clearly that tells you, you know, a little bit about what they did.
15:24They settled for somebody and to and could maybe not be the guy that they're hoping he can be.
15:30But this is what they have right now. This is what they're going to go to training camp with.
15:36And obviously, it's a great offense. You know, it's a it's an offense that showed a lot of improvements and really, I
15:43think, helped Travis Etienne, who, as we know, last year is one of the best values.
15:48I think he was going in this range of running back.
15:51So I'm still hopeful for both at this point with Rodriguez missing all of the offseason.
15:56You know, Tootin's the one you want to draft first.
15:59But I still think Chris Rodriguez is a great sleeper to target with a, you know, late round pick, depending on where his ADP settles.
16:07Travis Etienne slash HN is one of the biggest asterisks in ADP history because they traded Tank Bigsby last year on September 8th.
16:14So that's why HN or Etienne HN was going as late as he was round nine, I think, last year.
16:21I don't know where he would have gone. He still would have probably been a really good value, though.
16:27I probably would have been more like a sixth, fifth or sixth round pick after the season he had been coming off.
16:33Just speculation. All right. That's our thoughts on the Jaguars backfield.
16:37We'll take a break. We'll come back and we'll get into Cortland Sutton, Quentin Johnson and Alec Pierce in round seven after this.
16:44Beginning our round seven through nine wide receivers discussion with round seven.
16:48Be weird to begin with round nine, wouldn't it?
16:51Cortland Sutton, Quentin Johnston and Alec Pierce. They are wide receivers 36 through 38 in ADP on Fantasy Pros.
16:57This is PPR. Dave, how would you rank Sutton, Johnston, Pierce?
17:00Pierce. And then Sutton and then Johnston. Sutton, Johnston.
17:03There's decent gaps between each of them, too. Okay.
17:06Jamie? Pierce, Johnston, Sutton. And Johnston and Sutton are very close.
17:09What do you guys make of Alec Pierce and his injury right now?
17:13How difficult is that making your ranking of him, Jamie?
17:16I'd probably be a little bit more excited about Pierce.
17:19But I think just looking at it is he's one of the most hardest players to project because you're asking him to do something that he's never done.
17:28And a lot of his production last season came at the end of the year without Daniel Jones.
17:34But obviously, no Michael Pittman. The contract is clearly something that you have to buy into.
17:39I believe in terms of his injury, he had the surgery when he did to make sure that there would be no issues for his training camp.
17:47So he should be fine. Certainly for the start of the season, he should be fine.
17:52This is a steal. I mean, I haven't seen Alec Pierce going around seven in any draft I've done.
17:58So I'm surprised that his ADP, like he's – the fact that he's in this range to me speaks to the fact that he's hurt.
18:06I think if he was healthy, no issues. You know, we were drafting right after free agency and he signed that deal
18:13in terms of like drafting for real. Like we're talking about a round five receiver.
18:17Like that's the type of upside he has. Man, he's so interesting because the guy was a second-round pick in 2022.
18:246'3", 211 pounds at the combine. He ran a 4-4-1.
18:27He's just always been pigeonholed as a deep guy at one of the highest ADOTs in the NFL.
18:33I believe Alec Pierce has led the NFL in yards per target and yards per catch two straight seasons.
18:39But deep ball, deep ball, deep ball. I wonder if he's going to have – I wonder if he's going to play
18:46a different role this year because he only had 84 targets in 15 games on pace for 95 targets.
18:51You can't get a bunch of targets when your average depth of target is like 17 yards.
18:57So will he play a different role and what will – how will he do with that role?
19:02You know, it's – we know who Cortland Sutton is at this point.
19:06Johnston – Quentin Johnston also is going to apparently play a different role.
19:10But Alec Pierce, Dave, I still think we don't really know what he's capable of.
19:15And we don't know how effective he'll be in the shorter area role.
19:19I just quickly looked and checked out what his receiving metrics were on throws of 18 – or 15 or fewer area yards.
19:26Excuse me. And it ain't great. His catch rate was 58%.
19:30One touchdown, 36 targets in total. 15 games, only 36 of his targets were 15 yards or closer through the air on the line of scrimmage.
19:38And that's with a high catchable throw rate from his quarterbacks.
19:417.4 yards per target. 0.78 yards per route run.
19:44This is nasty. This isn't what you want from a receiver.
19:48And so you've got to wonder, does that change if he gets more opportunities?
19:52And you can't help but think that he will get more of those opportunities because Michael Pittman walked out the door, was
19:59traded out the door with 111 targets from last year.
20:02I know Josh Downs is going to take a lot of those targets away, but Alec Pierce was just paid like a number one wide receiver.
20:10I think they have to use him accordingly. And it would make sense if they did.
20:15We just don't have the evidence that he can succeed on those short and intermediate routes.
20:20Yeah. Makes him a little bit tougher to trust.
20:23And that's probably a part of the reason that, along with Daniel Jones' injury, is making people a little squeamish.
20:29And I think that's why his ADP is what it is.
20:33You have his projections on the YouTube site from Sportsline, which is 105 targets.
20:37That's not ideal. No, but here's the thing. When you look at Christian Watson and Jamison Williams, who are going ahead of
20:44him, they are guys who can get about 105 targets and still be.
20:48I don't I don't think he's going to turn 105 targets.
20:51Alec Pierce into wide receiver. I don't think there's enough catches there, but wide receiver like 27, 28.
20:57You know, Jamison Jamo has kind of been like that that guy that you can get 105 targets, be that efficient.
21:04And Alec Pierce is even more efficient than him so far in his career.
21:08I just think like to get 105 targets in full PPR and only the projection was for 58 catches.
21:14I don't know how that's going to end up being wide receiver 21.
21:18No, that that projection is very close to what Jamo did over the course of the 2025 season.
21:24And on a per game basis, Jamo was wide receiver 19.
21:27And that's when receiver scoring was down. Yeah, right.
21:30It was a bad year. He might be able to cross over into top 24 territory.
21:35I think I think reaching for Alec Pierce is a mistake.
21:38I've got him ranked as around six wide receiver in full PPR.
21:42That might be a little bit too high. I just don't know how many other wide receivers I love more than him because he does have organic upside.
21:51If he can connect on those intermediate throws and they still throw downfield and Daniel Jones is OK.
21:56And maybe that's too many ifs, but there is upside for Alec Pierce to be better than what these projections.
22:03Suggests and certainly to get more than 105 targets over the course of 17 games.
22:07OK, I'm I'm just not going to draft Courtland Sutton in round seven.
22:11There is just no way because I really think that, you know, when when you gave that stat about getting seven or more targets.
22:19But the other stat is that about 22 ish percent of wide receivers drafted in this range over the last nine years
22:26have been top 24 guys and maybe about 10 percent have been top 12.
22:30Like you can find great players here. I don't see any path to that for Courtland Sutton.
22:35Honestly, even if Jalen Waddle got hurt, I don't know that he could do it.
22:40Maybe he's gonna be 31 in October. So I'm just not drafting him.
22:44I do like Quentin Johnson's round seven feels a little early.
22:48Jamie, you I know you like drafting Quentin Johnson.
22:50Do you take him in round seven? I would.
22:53Yeah. I mean, I think, again, this is gonna be another guy that gets hyped up to a point where he may
23:00be too rich to draft in the round six range.
23:03But, you know, when you start to talk about the wide receiver numbers, that's where I think it matters more, you know,
23:10so if you don't if you don't like the profile, you don't like the history.
23:15And obviously there are things, you know, you can nitpick about Quentin Johnson and I shouldn't say nitpick.
23:20You can obviously point out the flaws of what he's done in his profile in the early part of his career.
23:27I'm just banking on what I saw the first four games of the season when Joe was healthy, Mike McDaniel now being
23:34there and the things that he's saying about him and how he wants to unlock him and comparing him to Andre Johnson
23:41and Julio Jones, the players that he's coached in the past.
23:44And I think that's a little bit obviously hyperbole.
23:47But, you know, you're still talking about a player that is a former first round pick that has huge upside.
23:53And despite the struggles the last two seasons, if you want to call them struggles, he scored eight touchdowns each of those two years.
24:01And so this could be a guy that similar to Pierce, similar to Jameson Williams, similar to Christian Watson, you know, big
24:07play potential, doesn't need a lot of targets. If he starts to get those, though, then we could be looking at a
24:14guy that can, you know, approach the top 24.
24:17I don't think that's in the range of possibility.
24:20I shouldn't say I don't think that's going to happen, but it's in the range of possibilities that he can have an
24:27opportunity here to, you know, really take off and just dominate in this offense with McDaniel calling place.
24:32Dave, do you agree with my take on Cortland Sutton that he just doesn't really have a lot of upside?
24:39Well, what is the upside? It's that Jalen Waddle doesn't perform to expectations or he gets hurt and then he's forced into
24:46being back in the same role that he was in last year.
24:49And last year that role resulted in barely almost 13 PPR points per game.
24:54And I, that's probably okay. If we're talking about around seven wide receiver, it's great in round seven, but I, but that's if Waddle's not good or hurt.
25:02I, there are at least four wide receivers that I've found five, make it five wide receivers who last year had at
25:09least seven touchdowns and under seven targets per game.
25:12So minimum of seven touchdowns and under seven targets per game.
25:16Only one of them averaged more than 13 PPR points per game.
25:19So if Sutton is seeing a downturn in targets, but it's still going to be a red zone threat.
25:25I think you plan accordingly and expect them to be in that 11 or 12 full PPR range.
25:31That's okay for round seven. I don't, I don't love it, but I don't love a lot of, uh, I like more
25:38of these receivers in like that round eight, round nine range than I do pushing them up into round seven.
25:44Okay. Well, but except you said for Pierce, you think this is a good spot.
25:49Pierce is in that. I think Pierce is in a good spot in round seven.
25:53And I think some of the other players, if you're looking on the screen on YouTube, uh, round nine, Pierce, all Wanda,
26:00I think Addison and like, I think almost all the round nine receivers.
26:04If we're getting those guys in round nine, I would pass on most of the receivers in round seven and eight to
26:11go after those guys in round nine. All right, let's go to round eight.
26:16Round nine is Pierce, all Jacoby Myers, Addison, Wandale, and worthy round eight, six wide receivers from wide receivers, 39 to 44 and ADP.
26:23Chris Godwin, Michael Pittman, Makai Lemon, Michael Wilson, Jaden Reed, and Josh Downs.
26:27Chris Godwin, Michael Pittman, Makai Lemon, Michael Wilson, Jaden Reed, Josh Downs.
26:31Jamie, who are your three favorites in that group?
26:34God was my favorite player on this entire list.
26:36So he's one, um, Downs would be two and Wilson would be three.
26:41Godwin, Downs, Michael Wilson, ahead of Pittman, Lemon, and Reed.
26:44Dave, how about you? It's Godwin, Downs, Wilson. Oh, interesting.
26:47Did you know Michael Wilson averaged 21.2 PPR points per game in his last 10?
26:51Um, also. I heard that fairly misleading stat somewhere.
26:54Yeah. Also, Michael Wilson, much, much better playing out wide than in the slot.
26:59His slot rate was a lot higher with Marvin Harrison Jr.
27:02on the field. Um, okay. Jamie, Jamie, why is Chris Godwin your favorite player?
27:06Not just in round eight, but in all of these rounds, round seven through nine.
27:11So ahead of Sutton, ahead of Johnson, ahead of Alec Pierce, Chris Godwin.
27:15I mean, we've talked about this a little bit already.
27:18I think he goes back to being the slot receiver for Tampa Bay.
27:22I think he's going to be healthy compared to what he was last year.
27:27You're talking about Jalen McMillan, Emeka, Buka, Ted Hurst, young players with a lot of upside, but very unproven track records here.
27:34And Godwin and Baker Mayfield have a very strong rapport and strong history together.
27:38So I think the value for Godwin is fantastic.
27:41There's clearly a lot of downside as we saw last season.
27:44And to your point, he may be done. He may be washed up.
27:48That certainly could be the scenario here. But when you're starting to look at targets per game, I think he could lead this entire group.
27:56Production, past history. I think he's, you know, resume speaks for itself.
28:00And so if he's healthy, and I think Tampa Bay, despite the fact that he was hurt last year, I think it
28:07was last year when they gave him the contract extension.
28:10They still feel really comfortable with him as being a focal point of this offense.
28:15And I think that's going to happen. So I'm thrilled to take a chance on him if I get him around eight.
28:21I would take him as early as around seven.
28:24Okay. And you said Josh Downs after that. Yeah, I think Downs, between Downs and Tyler Warren, they're going to lead the team in targets.
28:32I think both guys out target out Pierce. And so how much of a big increase do we see for Downs, who
28:39averaged over 12 PPR points per game in 2024, started last year injured?
28:43Again, no Michael Pittman. He's the easy guy to, you know, fill that role and be the short area guy, along with Warren for Daniel Jones.
28:51Jones coming off the injury. How much is he going to throw downfield to Alec Pierce consistently, at least the early part of the season?
28:59So I think Downs is a huge winner with Pierce gone.
29:02Probably a bigger winner than Alec Pierce, although Pierce's contract, I'm sure he'll take that every day.
29:08I don't think. I think Downs is trying to earn that contract.
29:11Yeah. I believe he's not getting that year. I don't know, dude.
29:15He puts together a monster year for Indianapolis and he can.
29:19It's going to have to be like a Mount Rush St.
29:22Brown monster year for him to get that type of deal.
29:25What's the difference, though, between Josh Downs and Jaden Reed?
29:29I think Jaden Reed is coming off a really bad year where he got hurt almost immediately, played hurt, you know.
29:35But we say they've lost Romeo Dobbs, Dontavian Wicks.
29:38Both of them are very high slot guys, slot percentage, very high, who don't play enough snaps, really.
29:44But Jaden Reed has just, I think, been a better version of Josh Downs.
29:48I think based on... He's been a more efficient version of Josh Downs.
29:52Well, look at his last two years. You have to go back two years to see it, though.
29:58Yeah. Okay. Last year stunk, but the first two years of Jaden Reed's career were pretty good.
30:03I think the biggest thing for me is I know Josh Downs is going to be on the field a lot.
30:09I don't know if Jaden Reed is going to be on the field a lot.
30:14Right. And the biggest reason for that is they spent a first-round pick on Matthew Golden, and Christian Watson is clearly their
30:21alpha, no matter what LaFleur will say. He's their best receiver.
30:24And so Jaden Reed figures to be more as their slot receiver.
30:28And when you have Tucker Crafts and the personnel groupings that they're going to use, if they're not in three-receiver sets, I
30:35don't think Jaden Reed's on the field a lot.
30:38Josh Downs is going to play outside this year.
30:41There's no way around it. He's going to move around.
30:44He's going to be a different type of receiver.
30:47They said as much. And so I think Jaden Reed's value is awesome, but if you're telling me I have to take
30:53Jaden Reed over Josh Downs, I'd rather have Downs.
30:56One point for you. Is Jaden Reed who you go after if you don't get Downs?
31:01He's one of the guys I would consider. But, I mean, we're talking when you're in wide receiver 44, depending on how
31:08you draft, if you're putting yourself in a position where you're drafting these guys to have to be your starters, you may be making a mistake.
31:16Right. Just one point in Reed's favor is not necessarily over Downs.
31:20I would take Downs over Reed. He's scored in 2023 and 2024 1.3 and 1.4 points per game and rushing totals.
31:27It's a little scary because you don't know if he's going to get that, but he's been so damn good with the ball in his hands.
31:35Probably two of it. You probably shouldn't expect that.
31:38But I mean, we were calling him Debo Light.
31:40Yeah, I think you should expect that. I don't know.
31:439.1 yards per carry. Debo Samuel in those last three years has averaged 4.5 yards per carry.
31:49No, but in terms of opportunities, I think the Packers would be doing themselves a disservice if they don't give him those touches.
31:56And, you know, LeFleur, two owners meetings ago when he was coming off the 2023 season was, you know, saying as much.
32:03Like, you know, he's a dynamic player. Part of that, though, is why he got hurt.
32:08You know, it was just maybe he's not built to do all these extra things.
32:12I hope that's not the case, but you never know.
32:16But in the case of Reed that's in his favor versus Downs, his quarterback is much better.
32:21His offense is probably much better. And I think, you know, if he was on the field a lot more and did
32:28stay healthy and got those chances and he was, you know, put him on the Colts right now, then it's probably a
32:35better situation for him just in terms of playing time.
32:38But again, you know, does he does he make more sense if you're the Packers to play him as an outside receiver
32:45in whatever spot over Christian Watson or Matthew Golden?
32:47I would think they look at it and probably say, no, now they paid him.
32:52But again, draft capital production. They need Christian Watson to win.
32:56They need him to stay healthy. And I think they need Matthew Golden to sort of justify the draft pick.
33:02So he's going to probably get a little bit more opportunities to play just in terms of playing time than I think
33:09Jaden Reed does, at least early in season. I'm a little surprised that you guys had Michael Wilson third.
33:15Again, the group of six wide receivers were Godwin, Pittman, Lemon, Wilson, Jaden Reed and Downs.
33:20Jamie said Godwin, Downs, Wilson. Dave, you said Godwin blank Wilson.
33:23Who was the second one? Downs. Okay. So you both had Godwin, Downs, Wilson.
33:27I'm a little surprised because Michael Wilson was obviously amazing at the end of last season.
33:32But even in that 10 game stretch or seven, what was it?
33:36Seven game stretch, whatever. Eight games. Last eight games, the average 21.2 points per game.
33:41Even in that eight game stretch, there were three games where Marvin Harrison Jr.
33:45played. Right? Week 13, Marvin Harrison Jr. played 61% of the snaps.
33:49Michael Wilson had a 13% target share. Week 16, Marvin Harrison Jr.
33:53played 51% of the snaps. And Michael Wilson had a 16% target share.
33:57Week 17, Marvin Harrison Jr. played. Oh, I'm sorry.
34:00Those target shares are when Harrison was on the field.
34:03Week 17, Marvin Harrison Jr. ran 13 routes. When he was on the field, you did have four targets for Michael Wilson, which was a 40% target share.
34:11But even in the midst of this incredible run, as soon as Marvin Harrison was on the field, Michael Wilson was pretty much doing nothing.
34:19So compared to Makai Lemon, who's got a great opportunity, Jayden Reed, who we just talked about, Michael Pittman, who I will not draft in any leagues.
34:28I don't know. The going Wilson. No, I really cannot see myself.
34:31I like him better than Metcalf. I'm definitely not drafting Metcalf, but no, I'm not a Pittman guy.
34:37Dave, yeah, I don't know. I'm a little surprised Wilson was third for you.
34:41He's third, but he's also ranked 45th amongst all wide receivers.
34:45So I can't sit here and say that I'm a big proponent of drafting Michael Wilson, but you can't deny what you saw on film last year.
34:53You have to hope that the new coaching staff, and for what it's worth, Michael Fleur has said that he views Michael
35:00Wilson in the same type of role as Puka Nakua.
35:03And I kind of get it. When you watch Michael Wilson play, he's very physical.
35:08He's got good for his size, linear speed. He's got decent quickness.
35:12Not sure he's got the same type of hands as Puka Nakua.
35:15But then again, who does? Puka is just great at about everything, and he's a great fit for that offense.
35:22I worry about there being a target crunch that remains.
35:25And unless LeFleur is just completely done with one of Harrison or McBride, I'm worried that there's going to be modest at
35:32best target volume for Michael Wilson from week to week, and that he will not put up numbers like he did last
35:39season when he had so many opportunities, most of which coming when Marvin Harrison was off the field.
35:44So I think just the biggest thing for Wilson is, and I agree with almost everything Dave said, like Godwin could be great.
35:51Pittman may be the best receiver for the Steelers.
35:54Maybe Makai Lemon is A.J. Brown. Maybe Jaden Reed is the best receiver for the Packers.
35:59Maybe Josh Downs is the best receiver for the Colts.
36:02Alex Pierce, Quinn Johnson, Corwin Sutton, all these guys.
36:05One guy on this list averaged over 20 PPR points per game for a stretch last year.
36:10For a stretch? One guy. 20? For that stretch.
36:13Oh, oh, Michael. Oh, sorry. I don't know why I thought you were on Michael.
36:18He's referencing your set. I thought you were talking about Michael Pittman for whatever he is.
36:23Yes, Michael Wilson. Yes, he did. It's unbelievable. This is where I have him ranked as well.
36:28It's in the 40s. It's not with the expectation of him doing that again by any stretch.
36:34It's not with him being the best receiver on the Cardinals.
36:37I still think that's Marvin Harrison. But what if?
36:40And that's the reason you're drafting him is the what if.
36:43What if what we saw last year makes him the best receiver?
36:47Not receiving talent. Not better than Shane McBride. Best receiver.
36:50Better than Marvin Harrison who's going, I'm assuming, in round five or six.
36:54What if Michael Wilson is Pukunakua in the role?
36:57Not the production, but in the role. Like just those type of ifs makes you want to gravitate toward him and why
37:04some people think Michael Wilson is better than Marvin Harrison because Michael Wilson did something.
37:09Marvin Harrison, we've been waiting for. Yeah. So if he does get those opportunities, he's not getting over 13 targets per game
37:15because that's what he was averaging when when Marvin Harrison was out.
37:19Like if he gets just more chances and becomes a guy, especially if Jacoby Brissett starts the majority of the season.
37:26Look, there's there's every which way this can go bad.
37:29Michael Wilson's track record in history suggests when other guys are there, he's just not the same.
37:34But the if and so I think just if you're talking about your your fourth receiver, your fifth receiver, he's done things
37:41that nobody else on this list has and may ever, ever accomplish in those games that he did last season when Harrison was out.
37:49Yeah. The what if I mean, my biggest takeaway from what you just said, the what if is that I'm not drafting Marvin Harrison.
37:56That's fair. Yeah, because he's going. Yeah. Early round six.
37:59I would rather have Harrison because I think he, you know, again.
38:03No, but at a at cost, you'd rather have Harrison in round six than Wilson around eight.
38:08If it's only a two round difference. And yes, I'd rather.
38:12Okay. I'd rather have Harrison. I just. I don't want to pay the round six price for Harrison.
38:17I'd rather Harrison than Wilson. I don't know about the cost.
38:21Right. I'd rather have Wilson at this cost. We got to take a break.
38:25I'm sorry, Dave. I got to take a break.
38:28We'll talk about Lemon and Pittman when we come back and then we'll get to the round nine guys.
38:34We'll be right back on fantasy football today. Jamie, when I said I wasn't drafting Michael Pittman, you seemed surprised.
38:40Do you like him as wide receiver 40? In this range.
38:43I think I'm at 41. No, I'm sorry. I have Metcalf 41.
38:47I haven't met 44. I think Pittman could be the best receiver for the Steelers.
38:52It wouldn't shock me. I mean, again, the way that he plays, the routes that he's going to run, the type of quarterback Aaron Rodgers is right now.
39:01The only saving grace for DK Metcalf for me is McCarthy's offense is vertical.
39:05And is Aaron Rodgers at this age able to do the things I think McCarthy would like to do and certainly would like DK Metcalf to do?
39:13Pittman just seems to be a better fit. And so you lose Kenneth Gainwell.
39:18Obviously, Jalen Moore and Rico Dall are going to do some things in the passing game.
39:23And, you know, there's going to be other players that step up and perform.
39:27But for the cheap investment, still the production. He's still young enough.
39:31He still had a good enough year last year.
39:34He's had some really good years the past couple of seasons.
39:37I think Pittman could be one of the biggest surprises this year.
39:41Now, not Chris Olave surprise where you're getting him very late and he's a superstar.
39:46But like, man, I should have taken Michael Pittman sooner.
39:49Or why didn't I value Michael Pittman more? Like, he could be one of these guys we're talking about at the end of the 2026 season.
39:57Like, in PPR, I think if you're, again, looking at the sports line projections, six touchdowns, feels about the ceiling.
40:03I would probably take the over on the 673 yards.
40:06But like, 77, 800, that range, like that type of guy.
40:10Like, he could be a really good number three fantasy receiver.
40:13Okay. I'd take Lemon over him, though. Oh, yeah.
40:16More upside. Dave, Lemon or Pittman? Pittman. You sure?
40:19Yeah. Okay. Sorry. We've talked about him so much that I felt like I needed to play the music.
40:25And the fact that he's on the Steelers now, and he is legitimately the Pittman.
40:29Thank you, Michael Pittman. All makes sense. Yeah. Michael Pittman said that he was playing a role last year that basically just
40:36doing what the Colts were asking him to do.
40:39ESPN had a note that said, Next Gen Stats had Michael Pittman with 47% of his routes through week 15 being in
40:46breakers, which was the highest rate of his career.
40:49Get used to that, Michael. Well, no. The point of this whole spiel is that he felt like he was going to be used more versatility.
40:57With more versatility? Yeah. In Pittsburgh. Be more versatile.
41:00Sure. Someone's saying, like, Adam hates the Steelers. Adam's hate for the Steelers is real.
41:04Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to deny it. I just don't think Aaron Rodgers is good enough, especially his deep balls.
41:11And he doesn't want to get hit, and he gets rid of the ball super quickly.
41:16That's why I will have zero DK Metcalf on my team.
41:19Right. Makes all the sense in the world. Metcalf had actually a really low ADOT last year.
41:25Just that's what he wants. And that's Metcalf we're talking about.
41:28He turned him into a low ADOT guy. All right.
41:31Let's talk about round nine. Pure Saul. I thought you wanted Lemon.
41:35Oh, yeah. Okay. I mean, I thought I kind of did.
41:38But sure. What do you want to say about it?
41:41Jamie, give me an outlook on Lemon. Well, I mean, we know AJ Brown is gone, so that's 121 targets that are left on the table.
41:50I think we're all hoping Devontae Smith gets the bulk of that, but that's not realistic.
41:55And so how much will Lemon stand out ahead of Hollywood Brown, Dontavian Wicks, there's one other guy, I forget, that group,
42:01and be the first-round talent and produce like he's capable of?
42:05And it's just an unknown. I don't like the fact that he was hurt in many camps, so hopefully he'll be healthy.
42:12But, I mean, my gosh, the easiest comp in the world is Amon Ross St.
42:16Brown. And if he could play like that and be that type of guy for Jalen Hurts, then I think it's just
42:23– it's an easy narrative, but I think it's a silly narrative to say that Jalen Hurts won't throw over the middle of the field.
42:31He definitely has done that. He will do that.
42:34He'll continue to do that. I think the new offense will, you know, force him to probably do it a little bit
42:41more, and that's where I think the comfort factor comes in.
42:44But, I mean, there's such huge opportunity here for Makai Lemon.
42:48So when you're talking about upside plays in this, I'm going to guess Jordan Tyson's probably around six pick based on his ADP.
42:55It wouldn't shock me if Makai Lemon is better.
42:58You know, just, again, looking at what their profiles are and quarterbacks and roles in offense.
43:03I think Jordan Tyson's a great prospect. I think his role in his offense is going to be fantastic, so it's not to knock him.
43:10But Lemon may end up just being in a better spot.
43:14And for every reason to love Devontae Smith, he's never had to be the alpha for a full season.
43:20It's three games over the course of the last two years that he's been that guy, and he's been fantastic.
43:26But Makai Lemon may end up being the best receiver of Philadelphia.
43:30I don't think that's the case. You should not draft to the case.
43:34I'm not saying that. But there is that potential for a guy being drafted in the first round for a team like
43:41Philadelphia trading up to go get him, knowing they're going to get rid of AJ Brown, understand him.
43:46But trading up to go get Makai Lemon for a reason.
43:50And I think they're going to feature him as much as they possibly can.
43:54Okay. Makai Lemon is a round eight pick, as you see.
43:58Carnell Tate is an early round six pick. Jordan Tyson is a late round six pick.
44:03Who's got the best value of those three rookie receivers, Dave?
44:06Carnell Tate, early round six. Jordan Tyson, late round six.
44:09And Makai Lemon, round eight. Tyson is the worst.
44:12I think Tyson and I think Lemon are closer to round nine or round ten.
44:17So by default, I will take Carnell Tate. Jamie, best value?
44:20I'll take the value of Lemon. I would rather have Tate over these guys.
44:24But, you know, going back to the Cardinals guys, like I would pay the two round difference for Marvin Harrison over Michael Wilson in this case.
44:33I would rather take Lemon two rounds later than Jordan Tyson.
44:36All right. Now we go to round nine. Round nine.
44:39And Ricky Pearsall, wide receiver, 45. Jacoby Myers, Jordan Addison, Wondale Robinson, Xavier Worthy.
44:44Ricky Pearsall, Jacoby Myers, Jordan Addison, Wondale Robinson, Xavier Worthy.
44:47I think I have every wide receiver at least one round higher.
44:50You really like this round, huh? I do. I love it.
44:54These were the receivers I was thinking about when we started the show.
44:58And I thought about, all right, these are receivers that could be potential wide receiver threes for your fantasy team.
45:04And you're getting them in the middle of your draft.
45:07Would you say you're on cloud nine? Nine. It's not quite seventh heaven.
45:11Yeah, but eight is great. It is great. We're on cloud nine.
45:15Okay. Who do you like the best, Dave? Who are your top three?
45:19Pearsall, Myers, Addison, Wondale, Worthy. I believe that I have Wondale in full PPR ranked the highest of this group.
45:25And it's based on everything that we've already talked about.
45:29The fact that he's not sharing with a tremendous alpha.
45:32And even if he was, he did it in 2024 with Malik Neighbors.
45:36And he still had huge target volume. And his role has changed since then.
45:40And he's probably a little bit better of a wide receiver now than he was two years ago.
45:46Pearsall's next, but the argument is all upside based.
45:49And then I've got Addison and Myers basically back to back.
45:52I currently have Addison one spot ahead. I could see Myers being a little bit safer and I might end up putting Myers ahead of Addison.
46:00Myers is another guy. I'm just not drafting. There isn't a great upside case to make for him unless it's all contingency based.
46:07Brian Thomas doesn't put it all together. Parker Washington was the flash in the pan.
46:12Jaguars have no choice but to up the targets for Jacoby Myers who could handle it.
46:17But last year in Jacksonville, 10 games, 11 PPR points per game, 6.5 targets per game.
46:22It's a little tough to see him being that much better this year.
46:26Yeah, I think it was the last six games when Brian Thomas Jr.
46:30came back after the ankle injury. Myers had a 25% target share.
46:34Parker Washington missed one of those games, played less than 56% of the snaps in three of the five games he played.
46:41So there is that. But Jacoby Myers definitely was a big part of the offense.
46:45And he's a good player. He'll probably outperform his ADP.
46:48ADP is wide receiver 46. Jacoby Myers does every year.
46:52Yeah, he'll probably outperform that. I just... I don't know.
46:55If I'm going to buy into Parker Washington, and I am to a degree, I just can't really get excited about Jacoby Myers.
47:02I don't know. This is a good round, but I think these...
47:06I personally think these guys deserve to be behind most of the players in front of them.
47:11Doesn't sound like Dave does. Jamie, how do you feel about it?
47:15Pearsall, Myers, Addison, Wandale, Worthy. Pearsall and Robinson should definitely go ahead of some of the guys in round eight.
47:21I think just looking at Robinson, the fact that he's still tied to Dable is important.
47:26I think the fact that Cardinal Tate has still proved something is important.
47:30I don't think Robinson matches anything close to his targets the last two years.
47:34I just don't think that's possible with Cam Ward and the offense they're going to run in Tennessee.
47:40But it could happen. And Pearsall is really just based on hope.
47:44You know, so can he ever... It's almost like what I was saying about Michael Wilson.
47:49Like, you know, totally different. I shouldn't say it.
47:52Pearsall is the hope that you get the type of player that we've seen flashes of.
47:57And so if that ever materializes, and again, he's had a hard time staying healthy.
48:01But age-wise, he's sharing the field with a 30-plus-year-old Mike Evans, a 30-plus-year-old George Kittle coming off an Achilles injury.
48:07And he's got the longest tenure of the, you know, top receiving options.
48:12I should say, of the wide receivers who are going to play.
48:15Because Stribling's a rookie and Evans and Christian Kirk are new to the team.
48:20So hopefully Pearsall can, you know, just stay on the field and start to produce.
48:24But I think Jordan Addison's an interesting case because we keep saying, oh, Justin Jefferson was great in the Carson Wentz games.
48:31Well, so was Jordan Addison. You know, he played really well when it wasn't J.J.
48:36McCarthy. And so hopefully Kyler Murray's presence and, you know, I hope not being ruined by Juwan Jennings' presence.
48:42But, you know, Jordan Addison can have an opportunity here to, you know, play at a high level hopefully and deliver on
48:49some of the things that we've seen from him, like you alluded to, whether it was the mailbag or this show.
48:55A lot of it has been touchdown-related in what he's accomplished.
48:59But that's still something to, you know, gravitate toward.
49:02So I think a lot of these guys on list, on each round, on this list, have the potential to pop.
49:08But just in terms of the round nine guys, you're hoping Wanda Robinson targets.
49:12Like he's, to me, just a cheap version of what we're expecting from Parker Washington and Josh Downs.
49:18And you can get him, you know, significant later than Washington and even later than Downs here.
49:23And Pearsall is more just hope. I do think that the Jacksonville scenario is very intriguing because we're going to sit here
49:30and say, hey, if Brian Thomas does this, if Parker Washington does that, and whatever Travis Hunter provides, like Jacoby Myers could
49:37just be the constant presence for this offense. Like you said, he played a lot.
49:42I think that's going to continue because the trade for him and the contract extension that they gave him.
49:48I think Myers stays on the field probably more than we want.
49:51So we'll see how that matters more so for maybe Thomas and Hunter because I do think Parker Washington stays on the field quite a bit as well.
50:00Myers is the kind of guy to me that has a really good five-game stretch.
50:05He never really puts it together for a full season, I guess.
50:09I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. No, I don't see him that way.
50:13He has one year in his career. He's 29.
50:16He'll be 30 in November. Jacoby Myers has one year in his career with more than 866 yards.
50:21He's usually in the 50 to 55 yards per game year.
50:25He had one really good year, 2024 with the Raiders.
50:28He averaged 67.4, 68.5 yards per game. Pardon me.
50:31When was that? After Adams was traded, right? Right.
50:33Yeah. Mostly. So he's had like half-year splits that are pretty good.
50:37Right. Yeah. And so it's not five games. It's like double that.
50:41Okay. Fair. But it's like something needs to happen in order for that split to reveal itself.
50:46And that's what I was kind of getting at with Jacksonville.
50:50If everybody stays healthy for the majority of the year and BTJ is better than he was last year, then it's the
50:56term Jamie's been using for 19 years. It's steady Eddie.
51:00He's probably in that 10 PPR range. Okay. Hmm.
51:02Let's talk about Xavier Worthy. We haven't really gotten to him.
51:06Didn't really get to see a lot of Xavier Worthy last season, at least the healthy version of Xavier Worthy.
51:12He got hurt in week one. When he came back, he wasn't running a normal route tree.
51:17He was limited by the injury. He finished his rookie season very strongly, but mostly if not all without Rasheed Rice.
51:24So I guess all. Jamie, how much hope do you have for Xavier Worthy?
51:28The last of these wide receivers in round nine, wide receiver 49.
51:32In ADP. The chiefs obviously have a lot of faith in Xavier Worthy because you got Rasheed Rice who went to jail
51:39and had another knee procedure and has all kinds of potential red flags surrounding his off field stuff.
51:45Travis Kelsey is 35 years old, going to be 36 in October.
51:48And they didn't do anything. You know, they went out and they got Cyrus Allen.
51:53You know, they, they didn't do anything to help this receiving core.
51:57And so I think that speaks to that. They are hoping, expecting, needing Xavier Worthy to play at a higher level.
52:03Now that doesn't mean he's going to be a great fantasy receiver because we haven't seen him do it consistently.
52:10And there's still, as of now, Kelsey back rice available, healthy, all things ready to go.
52:15So where does that leave him on a team that seemingly wants to run the ball a lot more after what they
52:21did this off season and going and get Kenneth Walker and Amari Di Mercado and drafting Emma Johnson.
52:27So plus you have my homes coming off an injury.
52:30So I think we're these appropriately priced. If you want to take him as early as round seven, I get it.
52:37If rice has another problem, health related or off field related, then his ADP will explode and, and worthy will hopefully play at a higher level.
52:45But that's the scenario that we went through last year and he couldn't stay on the field to open the season.
52:51So Taequann Thornton and these other guys are going to have to probably play more than I'm sure the chiefs want and probably more than fantasy managers want.
53:00But I think Xavier worthy is a good late round flyer just with the hope of maybe he can live up to the potential.
53:08I kind of, you know, again, I, I said this yesterday with, with a couple of guys to me, Xavier worthy and Matthew golden or the spider man.
53:16Like there's so much upside, so much potential. Um, will it ever materialize?
53:20That's what we're waiting to see. By the way, Travis Kelsey wishes he were 35 about to turn 36.
53:26He is 36 about to turn 37. Sorry. Did you hear you got married?
53:31I did. You know, I, I was gonna, I, I didn't want to bog the show down, but I was going to
53:38say, Hey, I got a good bit for you guys of, I was going to do, I was going to make Dave
53:44be Travis Kelsey and you be Taylor Swift. And I was going to marry you as Bobby Boucher.
53:50Oh, cause Adam Sandler married them, right? Right. Right.
53:53That sounded like the worst skit ever until you talked about Bobby Boucher.
53:57They would marry us. I was like, did, did, did, did you, mit, mit, mit, mit, mit, mit, the Kelsey take Taylor Swift?
54:04Like I take Vicky Valancourt to be my, my lawfully wedded wife, but I just couldn't think of like the funny stuff to add to it.
54:12Yeah. I don't even know what I would say as Taylor Swift, but it's not a bad, it's not a bad premise.
54:19I like where you're going with that. Uh, again, these round nine wide receivers are Pierce, all Jacoby Myers, Jordan Addison, Wanda Robinson, and Xavier worthy.
54:27Kelsey. I did see somebody like post on Twitter.
54:30Like, uh, he, he said to Taylor Swift, like, do you take Travis Kelsey, blah, blah, blah stuff.
54:36And then he turned to Kelsey and be like, skibbity doo.
54:39You know, like some stupid, just make him laugh.
54:42Uh, yeah, I, I like this group here and wide receivers fun, right?
54:46But it's weird because we're coming off this year.
54:49We say it all the time. Bad year for wide receivers, bad year for wide receivers.
54:54Yeah. Here we are talking about wide receivers 45 through 49 in round nine and being like, man, I can, I can get behind these guys.
55:02And there may not be that big of a difference between round nine and round seven, or maybe even round six.
55:08Um, yeah, that's a good question. Like how big of a difference is there between round seven and round nine, round seven
55:15being Sutton, Johnston and Pierce round nine being Pierce, all Myers, Addison, Wanda all worthy.
55:20But this is, this is the blob, right? So like, it's almost wide receiver 30 through 50.
55:25Like you can make strong arguments pro and con for each of these guys.
55:30Yeah. Yeah. I think it's, I think it's probably closer to like 40 through 55, something like that.
55:35And so I, I, to me, it just comes down to who do, who do you like, who do you think has
55:42a chance, uh, who's got huge upside and maybe a safe floor to go along with it.
55:47The stats are the guys you gravitate towards again.
55:50The stats would say who has huge upside is basically the same question as who can get seven targets per game.
55:57Right. Okay. So answer that question. And we did that to start the show.
56:01So yeah, but like Sutton, Johnston, Pierce, Addison, maybe worthy, maybe Michael Wilson, like Pierce all like that could be touchdowns more.
56:08So the targets that saved them for sure. Yeah.
56:11But they're going to need to score a hell of a lot of touchdowns to make up for a lack of targets, man.
56:18Godwin. What a rollercoaster I've been on with Chris Godwin last year was a rollercoaster.
56:23Remember the one game he came back the first time he came back and he looked unreal.
56:28And then every other game after that, he looked terrible.
56:31I don't remember that being the case. I remember him getting a ton of targets, but it's not necessarily thinking he looked
56:38unreal, but I could be, I thought he looked good in that.
56:42Remember we had an ADR touchdown and Adam hated it.
56:45Go. It's he's so slow. Um, I want to finish the year with five and a half targets per game.
56:51And he averaged about 11 people PR, I think a little more than 11 PPR points per game.
56:57So if you think he can get to six and a half targets per game, I think he's one of those guys that safe floor, decently high ceiling.
57:06I don't know about a mega ceiling, but a good solid top 24 type ceiling.
57:10It's not going to take much for me to be back on the Chris Godwin bandwagon.
57:15I just need to hear that. He's that he's healthy.
57:18So I know, I know he's healthy. Have you heard otherwise?
57:22No, no. I, I want to hear something like, I just wasn't myself last year.
57:26Now I'm fully back. And then, and then I really think he could be one of the true steals of the draft.
57:33Now he could say that and not mean it, but I put it this way.
57:38If he is back to being what he at, at the full strength of what he was in 2024, when he was
57:45the third best wide receiver per game in PPR, Chris Godwin is going to be the best value in fantasy.
57:51I mean, Evans is gone. Evans being gone is such a huge deal because this guy got all of the end zones
57:58and red zone and green zone targets. This is who Baker Mayfield looked at all the time.
58:03That guy being off the field is a, is a huge deal.
58:07Right. Which is why you're hoping that's a buka, but still Godwin could easily be that type.
58:12Right. Yeah. I mean, but right. You are hoping it's a buka.
58:16But like you said, it could be Jalen McMillan.
58:19You know, he's could be when, when those guys were hurt at the end of 2024, he was amazing.
58:25One other thing about that is that Baker Mayfield went from 7.9 yards per attempt to 6.8.
58:30He threw for, or the team threw for 750 fewer yards and 15 fewer touchdowns.
58:35When you look at bounce back wide receivers, you need bounce back quarterbacks to get there.
58:40Not always, but you, that's a, like a sort of a cheat code.
58:44I think the bucks could probably not going to get back to the 2024 levels, but certainly can be better than they were in 2025.
58:52I was, uh, just real life scenario. I took a Mecca buka and round five, uh, four of the fishbowl and through
58:59round six, I did not have a quarterback yet.
59:01And I was waiting to see, cause I'm picking two.
59:05So it was coming back the other direction. The manager picking at one also did not have quarterback yet.
59:10I was like, I'm going to take Derek off because I already committed to Gibbs and Laporta, but Baker was my fallback
59:17option to just sort of, you know, um, yeah, you know, marry him with, uh, with a book.
59:23And then I was going to try and see if I get gobbled on the way back.
59:28I have so many questions. First, the point of clarification earlier, I said, DK Metcalf had a low a dot with Aaron
59:35Rogers actually wasn't that low, but it was a career low for him, but it wasn't a super low a dot.
59:42Um, I have so many questions. You're in the Scott fishbowl.
59:45You don't have a quarterback. It's a super flex league.
59:48So it's not on, it's unusual that I have a quarterback in round six.
59:53How I am on pick 13 of the Scott fishbowl.
59:56How the hell are you in round five or six already?
59:59What is going on? This just started yesterday. Where are you?
60:03Eight. We're moving. We're cooking. It's almost to your advantage, Adam, to be in a slower draft.
60:08Oh, I love it. I love it. Yeah. Way more ADP information comes in that can help guide you.
60:14I mean, not just that, but I have a draft to look forward to for a while.
60:19I don't understand. That's not having a rookie draft to look forward to.
60:23Yeah. That'll happen at some point. You know, people in the Scott fishbowl, come on, let's hurry up.
60:29It's July 7th. We have not had one person be like, oh, you got on the clock.
60:34You got to go. Like this has been very organic.
60:37First time this happens. Very fun. I think it's not fun.
60:41I think you're, I think you're, I think what you've got a lot of drafts coming up.
60:46I think what you're doing is terrible. All right, everybody.
60:49Thanks so much for watching and listening. I get very impatient.
60:53So like, I have to stare at the thing constantly because I don't want to miss my picks.
60:58You want to hear what happened with me? I don't know if this actually.
61:03All right. So, so last night I played tennis and I was like on deck in the Scott fishbowl.
61:09So I put Trey McBride. It's a massive bonuses for tight ends.
61:12I put Trey McBride in my queue. Bowers was already off the board.
61:16And I, I forgot about the league and I log on it.
61:20I don't even know midnight or something. It was like 1030 after the soccer game.
61:25And I said, Oh, and it said the draft was paused and Drake may had been selected and the commissioner had removed
61:32Drake may from the pick and it was the pick before me, but I thought it was me.
61:37And I wrote, Oh damn. And I auto-picked. I had McBride in my queue.
61:42I figured it would select him. I'm sorry, everyone.
61:44Apologies for holding everyone up. And then someone said, no, someone who didn't, someone didn't pick.
61:49They were removed and they're looking for a replacement now.
61:53So I go, Oh, gotcha. Well then nevermind. I definitely do not have Trey McBride in my queue.
61:58I hate McBride. Right. So I totally gave away who I was going to pick.
62:03And of course the guy got added. What's that?
62:06Why would you do that? Because I thought that I auto-picked Drake.
62:09I thought I was on the clock. And they paused.
62:13I was just saying I had somebody in my queue, not who you had in your queue.
62:18Well, it doesn't matter. Cause I thought it was paused on my pick.
62:22I didn't realize it was the pick before me.
62:25So I thought I was on the clock. I was just going to take Trey McBride.
62:30And I, and anyway, they added the guy and he took McBride.
62:33So I don't know if he saw my chat or not, but it's probably because of you.
62:39I mean, you're the fantasy expert in there, right?
62:42I guess. I don't know if there are others, but I don't even know if these people know who I am.
62:48Everybody knows who you are. That's definitely not true.
62:51We'll see. We'll see. You're Dan Schneier's driver. I know you as Dave Azar's little brother.
62:56There you go. See? Famous. So is my mom.
62:59All right. Well, uh, we'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today.
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