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2:19So here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:22Welcome to the show. We are getting into week six on Thursday, October 15th with the Seahawks and the Broncos playing tonight to kick things off.
2:30Today we've got seven mostly AFC home games. We've got Houston at Jacksonville.
2:34Really interesting game from a fantasy perspective. Pittsburgh at Tampa Bay.
2:38The Bucs have been pretty tough against quarterbacks, against wide receivers.
2:41It's just going to be a tough game for Aaron Rodgers.
2:45Baltimore at Cleveland. The Jets are at the Patriots.
2:47We've got these running backs we're excited to play.
2:50And also we've got Garrett Wilson versus Christian Gonzalez.
2:53Tennessee's at Indianapolis. Buffalo at Las Vegas. Good news for Ashton Gentry.
2:57Seems to be getting healthier, and the Bills allow the second most fantasy points to running backs.
3:02Chargers are at the Chiefs. And Heath, you know, I can remember Nick Costas, former colleague of ours, singing Andy Reid off the bye.
3:10Andy Reid off the bye. They've actually lost two of their last three games off the bye.
3:15That might be the game I'd have my worst enemy watch.
3:18The Chiefs Chargers. You know, it's going to be a great game.
3:22It's probably going to be a very close game.
3:25Yeah. I traded this game for a season of laughter.
3:28So the Chiefs are going to lose to the Chargers.
3:31Chargers are going to get their first win. And then they won't win another game until they play the Chiefs again.
3:38Actually, it does seem like a lot of these weeks off the bye recently for the Chiefs have been very competitive games.
3:45So probably will be close. Jamie, what's the best game?
3:48Your favorite game on the slate? Favorite game on the slate.
3:51Jacksonville-Houston is very intriguing just because I think you're – I want to see Houston turn a corner.
3:57You know, so I'm excited to see Marvin Harrison and what that looks like.
4:01So that might be my favorite game. Yeah, that's kind of where I was going too.
4:06It's not – we don't have Bills-Rams. We don't have anything like that this week, I think.
4:11But that's – Oh, I mean Sunday night. Yeah, yeah.
4:15I mean that'll be a – yeah, Dallas at Green Bay will be a shootout.
4:19That'll be a lot of fun. But yes, Houston, I think we all are hoping they are better than a 1-4 team.
4:26And they're getting Marvin Harrison back this week. And Tank Dell is practicing in full as well.
4:31Stat of the week for you from our John Breach on Twitter.
4:35John says we're getting – Wait, before you say it, is it a kicker-related stat?
4:40No. Wow. Upset. We're getting an NFL rarity this week.
4:43A team coming off an international game has to play a team coming off a bye.
4:48That would be the Eagles hosting the Panthers. This has only happened four times, and the team coming off the international game is 0-4.
4:55That helps explain something to me. I think Breach is responsible for some line movement because I went through this morning just
5:02to update the projections based on the line movement.
5:05I think the Eagles opened as a 1.5 or 2-point favorite.
5:09The Panthers are currently a 1-point favorite. So it may have also been because Devontae Smith and Saquon Barkley weren't at practice yesterday.
5:16Could have had something to do with it. But let's give credit to Breach.
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5:33Get styled today at stitchfix.com slash football. Jamie's got Jordan Love, Ramondre Stevenson, and Jalen Coker as players he loves.
5:39Yeah. Love is our start of the week. Another guy that we're all excited about.
5:44Dave's the lowest one on him at eight. But top ten guy.
5:48And coming off his best game of the season, taking on a Dallas defense that has allowed every quarterback group that they've
5:55faced, except for Jalen Daniels, to score 24 or more fantasy points.
5:59I say group because the commanders combined for it with Jalen Daniels in the first half and Marcus Mariota in the second half when Daniels got hurt.
6:07Love, you've heard me say this stat a billion times by now already.
6:11We're down to 30. So 30 times in his career where he's been 30 or more pass attempts, 19 of those games,
6:18he scored at least 20 fantasy points. So I think the floor is there because he's probably going to throw in this matchup.
6:25I know maybe Joey Porter Jr. changes some things for the secondary for Dallas.
6:29I'm not really concerned. He's throwing the ball a lot while they may have some success running the ball.
6:35I don't think that's the strength of his team by any standard at this point.
6:40So Jordan Love has immense upside. Love it. All right, Jordan Love.
6:44You guys both have him in the top four.
6:47And as Jamie mentioned, Dave has him eighth. From Andre Stevenson.
6:50Now we got this news that Travion Henderson was actually limited in practice, Jamie.
6:54So what's your read on the Patriots backfield right now?
6:58I mean, obviously that will lower some of the numbers or projections for Stevenson.
7:02But still will be a must-start guy. He had one game already this season without Henderson.
7:07It was a brutal matchup against Seattle. He had 23 total touches, five catches, 18 carries.
7:12So I'm guessing that's the neighborhood of workload we're looking at.
7:15You know, certainly I would say 18-plus touches for him in this game.
7:19His last two games against the Jets, he combined for 50 PPR points.
7:23So this is a matchup that he obviously likes.
7:26And the Jets' run defense we know has been very up and down so far this season.
7:32So they've given up two games. I think it was Jameer Gibbs and Monongai combined for 69 PPR points in a back-to-back stretch against them.
7:39So Stevenson should have an opportunity here to perform at a high level.
7:43And then in the case of Jalen Coker, we're just happy to have him back.
7:48Hopefully he stays healthy. Coming back from the quad injury, first two games we know were awesome.
7:53Nine targets, eight catches in both of those games.
7:56Or was it eight targets and seven catches? No, it was nine.
8:00You had it, yeah. A lot of work for him, and I think we'll see him.
8:05Keith alluded to this on the sell high for Tedderon McMillan.
8:08The last five games of last year, first two games of this year, Jalen Coker outplayed Tedderon McMillan.
8:14I don't think that will be the case consistently moving forward, but this is just a great opportunity against a secondary, which is somewhat underperformed.
8:22So not the easiest of matchups, but still a guy you should be excited to start.
8:27Yeah, I got an interesting question in the inbox today.
8:30Jalen Coker or Emmanuel Wilson in PPR? Who would you go with?
8:34Coker. Coker. Hey, that's what I said. All right.
8:37Blame Jamie and Heath if we get it wrong.
8:39Heath, the players you love this week are? Do you have them?
8:43I have them. Yeah, Braylon Allen. There we go.
8:46Which, again, not a great matchup against the Patriots, but the state of the running back position is such that if you
8:53are getting as many touches as Braylon Allen is getting, we're going to love you.
8:57And so you can start him with confidence as a high-end RB, too, this week.
9:02And last week, we finally saw someone besides Braylon Allen touch the football in the backfield.
9:07It wasn't enough to matter. He's the clear, dominant workhorse back in this backfield.
9:12Start Braylon Allen. My second one was not a person yet because we don't know who it is, but whoever starts at
9:18running back for the Eagles, the Carolina Panthers. I don't know if there's ever been a bigger swing between two matchups than
9:25facing the Jacksonville run defense to facing the Carolina run defense.
9:29They are the best team against running backs in terms of yards per carry.
9:33The Panthers have been the worst team. I believe it's 5.39 yards per carry.
9:37If it's Saquon Barkley, he's a top 12 running back.
9:41If it's Damian Pierce, he's a top 20 running back.
9:44He'll be somebody in there sharing touches with him.
9:47But Pierce should get the lion's share of the work.
9:50And then Pat Fryermuth with Michael Pittman out, with Roman Wilson out.
9:53Fryermuth lining up outside a lot more, playing a little bit of wide receiver.
9:58Aaron Rodgers throwing 38 passes per game. I think, yeah, eight of them will go to DK.
10:03Six or seven of them will probably go to Jeremy Bernard.
10:07And I kind of like him as a number three wide receiver.
10:10But it's also going to be a big day for Pat Fryermuth to start him.
10:15Yeah. And Tampa Bay, their defense hasn't been as bad as I thought it would be just based on preseason projections.
10:21But they've struggled against tight ends. They've been good against receivers.
10:25Struggled against tight ends. Don't tell that to Jake Ferguson.
10:28All right. So for Jamie, it was Jordan Love, Ramondre Stevenson, and Jalen Coker.
10:32For Heath, Braylon Allen, the Eagles starting running back, and Pat Fryermuth.
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10:58That is stitchfix.com slash football. And now let's get all negative here and talk about the players we want to avoid.
11:05Heath's got Roma Dunze at Atlanta on the avoid list.
11:08This one hurts my heart a little bit. Marshawn Lloyd against Dallas on Sunday night.
11:13And Ja'Cory Krosky-Meritt at San Francisco on Monday night.
11:16Dunze and then those two running backs. Yeah, Dunze has one game with more than 52 receiving yards this season.
11:22In the two games that Caleb Williams played, he had a combined seven targets.
11:26It was his two lowest targeted games. I think there's some hope that Caleb Williams, because of the hamstring injury, might play
11:33in the pocket a little bit more and on time a little bit more.
11:37I'm not sure that's the best thing for Roma Dunze.
11:41That tells me more short area targets to Luther Burden, Colston Loveland, and Kalief Raymond.
11:45I think Odunze is kind of a guy that could benefit if Williams is running around a little bit and then throwing it deep.
11:53Hopefully he does that at least once. And Odunze scores his first touchdown of the season.
11:58But he is a low-end wide receiver three. More of a flex for me this week.
12:03Hopefully you don't have to start him. And then Marshawn Lloyd and Ja'Cory Krosky-Meritt kind of both the same thing.
12:09They scored touchdowns last week. Lloyd got two of them.
12:12But the usage really wasn't much better. And Lloyd's still been awful as a rusher this season.
12:17The team still can't run the ball. Dallas, I think, is going to put up a lot of points against this Packers
12:24defense as well, which is going to lead to more Jordan Love's throws.
12:28It wasn't just Marshawn Lloyd handling the passing downs last week.
12:32Pierre Strong had a big role in the passing game for this Packers offense.
12:36So he's a flex. And I'd probably rather flex him than Roman Odunze.
12:40But I don't want to start him. And then Bill had this fantastic start to the game and then didn't play for
12:47most of the fourth quarter and all of overtime.
12:50It was all Rashad White at the end of that game.
12:53And I think that's what happens when the commanders get into kind of a we got to play fast or chase the
13:00score or throw the ball a lot. And guess what?
13:03They're eight and a half point, maybe seven and a half now, point underdogs against maybe the best team in football, the San Francisco 49ers.
13:11I don't think he's going to have a good rushing average against this defense.
13:15And I think probably in the second half, it's not going to be him on the field.
13:21The only thing I would say about Marshawn Lloyd is that the role did change in the sense that they didn't use
13:28Caleb Johnson at all until the fourth quarter of a blowout.
13:31Caleb Johnson didn't play a single snap in the first three quarters.
13:35So that is the only the only balance that he got is he you're right about the passing downs, but he was
13:42the only ball carrier basically for them. I think what you need in the case of both these guys is is fast starts.
13:49Oh, I thought you were going to say a touchdown.
13:52I think it's a touchdown. Definitely touchdowns. I think the two things and he's not wrong in anything with what he said.
13:59The thing about Krosky Merritt, two full games with Jaden Daniels, he scored in both of those.
14:04So hopefully just the threat of a better quarterback and maybe some of the open running lanes that we see.
14:10You know, I think that's what happened on the first round.
14:14You know, 33 hour touchdown run is, you know, that's what you're going to have to need from him is is the
14:21commanders to stay competitive early and that he does his damage early in the game.
14:25And for Lloyd, it's the same thing, because if the Cowboys get ahead early, then it could be problematic.
14:31All right, Jamie, you are sitting Jeremiah. Well, you are trying to avoid Jeremiah Love, who may not even play.
14:38Make sure I'll take a look at Tyler Algier and I'll get you his roster percentage in a second.
14:44Jeremiah Love at the Rams. Jalen Waddell tonight. Trevor Lawrence.
14:47That's the that's a tricky one there. Lawrence against Houston.
14:50So Jeremiah Love, Michael floor. I don't know what he's doing.
14:53You know, doesn't want to play him on on passing downs because of past protection issues, which don't necessarily mean it's him having past protection, past protection issues.
15:02It just was a very confusing quote that he gave.
15:05He's just been very confusing how he's using him.
15:08So this is a borderline starter at best when you're looking at his his production here.
15:13Jalen Waddell tonight. I mean, look, he's I don't know what's going to happen with the second game of Sean Payton calling plays.
15:20Bo Nix looks off. Waddell not getting the amount of targets that we need.
15:24He's had two good games this season. One game where he was hyper targeted.
15:29It was week two after disappointing week one. I just think you're looking at him as a starter in three receiver leagues at best.
15:36But you're talking about still Seattle's defense, which is amazing.
15:39And then in the case of Trevor Lawrence, he said, yeah, it's tricky to sit him.
15:44And I understand how he's played three or five games.
15:48He's been great. Two games. He's been disappointing. His history against D'Amico Ryan's not great.
15:52His history against the Texas overall, not great. Ten meetings against his team.
15:56Two games over 20 fantasy points. Only one against D'Amico Ryan since 2023.
16:00They have done a much better job of facing quarterbacks of late.
16:04So in their last four games against, take it for what it's worth, Joe Burrow, Daniel Jones, Dak Prescott, Cam Ward, two really good quarterbacks, two bad quarterbacks.
16:13They're giving up an average of 13.8 fantasy points over that span.
16:17The high is Joe Burrow at 20.8. So it's not like there's been like a big spike game, a disappointing Cam Ward game, and not much in between.
16:25It's not like they're giving up big performances to quarterbacks across the board.
16:29So this feels like it could be a low-scoring game with two good defenses.
16:34I think Trevor Lawrence is going to struggle. Without his left tackle, too.
16:38Keep that in mind. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. I forgot to mention that.
16:42Yes. Without his left tackle, Walker Little will be the left tackle taking on Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter.
16:48Good luck. We got another tricky question in the inbox today.
16:51Tyler Shuck or Trevor Lawrence? I mean, it's Shuck by a lot.
16:55Me too. Okay. Hey, that's what I said. Blame Heath and Jamie if we are wrong.
17:00Tyler Algier is 59% rostered. He's obviously done nothing.
17:03But in week one, he had 17 carries. Jeremiah Love's got this ankle injury.
17:07There's a chance he doesn't play. They're trying to rest him to get him right.
17:12And honestly, if you're a Jeremiah Love manager, I think you should be rooting for him to not play.
17:18Like, let's sit him as long as he can.
17:21We don't need this stupid split where they're both useless.
17:24We need a healthy Jeremiah Love. He's obviously struggling with his ankle injury.
17:28And LaFleur said, we got to give him time to rest.
17:31That's what he needs. So, like, get him healthy and get him back to that week three usage where he played two-thirds
17:38of the snaps, where he played in the goal line, where he was the guy.
17:43We're a far cry from that. All right. Players do avoid.
17:46The other part of this is the Rams, last week, first time they've given up a touchdown to a running back, which was James Cook scoring twice.
17:55Yeah. Yeah, sure. Obviously, it's tough. I'm going to name five players here on your avoid list.
18:00Who's the best one? Roma Dunze, Marshawn Lloyd, Ja'Cory Krosky-Meritt, Jeremiah Love, Jalen Waddle.
18:04Who's the best in terms of who would I rather start?
18:08Yeah. It would be Lloyd. Probably going to be Waddle for me.
18:12Okay. Hey, we got a note about Sunday. A little bit of a change on Sunday.
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18:24to 9.30. And then usually we go from noon to 1 for part two.
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18:36So, join us there. YouTube.com slash Fantasy Football Today.
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18:45Join us for that. Okay. News and notes. Michael Penix Jr., Caleb Williams, they're expected to play this week against each other.
18:51And Lamar Jackson missed practice, but he still could play.
18:55Travion Henderson got in a limited session. He's supposed to miss some time.
18:59And he still might, but he was able to practice.
19:02Dylan Sampson and Quinshawn Judkins missed practice. Raheem Sanders is on IR.
19:06Take a look at Jaleel McLaughlin. As of yesterday, he was 19% rostered.
19:10I'll take a look at the updated right now.
19:12Jaleel McLaughlin, 30% rostered. So, people are picking him up.
19:16Playing the Ravens. They have a good run defense, but he could get all the touches.
19:21If Jaleel McLaughlin is the guy, would you start him or Marshawn Lloyd?
19:25Lloyd. I'd probably start McLaughlin. I think one thing you can find if you're in the deepest of leagues is Audra Goste
19:31me too, because that's going to be who he shares with.
19:35All right. I've got Lloyd just ahead of him.
19:38I'm sorry, Lloyd. Okay. My bad. Saquon Barkley mispracticed.
19:41Just mentioned the Jeremiah Love thing. Kyle Menongai mispracticed.
19:43And DeAndre Swift was able to practice, which is good news.
19:47In full. In full, yes. Sean Tucker mispracticed. He may not play this week, and we know he could be a thorn in the side of Bucky Irving.
19:56Alvin Kamara was limited. Ashton Gentry, I teased this.
19:58He's practicing. He practiced in full. They say the ankle's getting healthier for Ashton Gentry.
20:03That's great news. Now, the Bills' run defense hasn't been that bad.
20:07They do, however, give up the most or the second most receiving yards to running backs, and Gentry's been great there.
20:13Wide receiver news. Marvin Harrison Jr. is going to play.
20:16Tank Dell practiced in full. DJ Moore was listed.
20:19They didn't have a practice. They had a walkthrough.
20:22He was listed as a did-not-practice DJ Moore. Josh Downs mispracticed for hamstring and rest.
20:27He's probably going to be okay. CeeDee Lamb practiced in full.
20:30That's cool. Jalen Coker is good to go. Devontae Smith mispracticed.
20:34Trey Tucker is questionable with a quad injury. We're going to keep an eye on that.
20:39Denzel Boston was limited. I'm assuming he'll be all right.
20:42Rasheed Rice mispracticed. Jacoby Lane practiced in full for the Ravens.
20:45The Jets need a number two receiver right now because Adonai Mitchell is likely out this week.
20:50Omar Cooper Jr. designated to return from IR. Every Chargers-wide receiver is questionable.
20:55They're all limited. Sorry, I meant limited. Except for Trey Harris.
20:58No, Trey Harris is not. Trey Harris is week to week.
21:01But Johnston and Lambert Smith, I think, and McConkie.
21:04Limited, limited, limited. And who else was limited? A.J.
21:07Brown was limited. You think there's a chance A.J.
21:10Brown plays this week? There's absolutely a chance. It'd be great.
21:13That would be awesome. I'd be surprised. I'd be surprised, too, but let's keep our fingers crossed.
21:19Kenyon Sadiq's in the concussion protocol. Joe Brady wants to get Dalton Kincaid more involved.
21:23And the teams with bad offensive line situations right now would be the Chargers.
21:28Maybe you could say the Patriots without Will Campbell.
21:30The Giants might not have their right tackle. The Browns might not have their, I believe, right tackle.
21:36The Jaguars don't have their left tackle for at least a month or three to five weeks, rather.
21:42Green Bay could be getting left guard Aaron Banks back this week.
21:45The defensive injuries you need to know about. Tonight, the Broncos are pretty beat up on defense.
21:51Dre Greenlaw. Do you think we should start JSN?
21:54I think so. Well, should we sit the Broncos DST?
21:57I'm not going to carry two defenses. I think just the thing to keep in mind is Darnold's played a couple bad
22:04defenses recently in, or not San Francisco, but the week before.
22:07Turnover, Bron. Also, one more guy you didn't mention I was encouraged slash surprised.
22:11Casey Concepcion, who was in the concussion protocol, was at a limited practice.
22:15So that's a pretty decent sign on a Wednesday.
22:18We'll see where he's at Thursday. Yeah. And like I said, I think Denzel Ball is going to be fine, but he was limited.
22:26All right. Chicago's a little beat up on defense.
22:29Actually, Chicago's very beat up on defense for this game against the Falcons.
22:33I think they're okay in the secondary, but the front seven's banged up.
22:37Chargers have a couple of defensive backs. And Montez but suspended.
22:40Yeah. Right. Exactly. And Christian Gonzalez is going to play.
22:43Carlton Davis did not practice. The other starting cornerback for the Patriots did not practice.
22:48Okay. We're taking a break. One question for each game, and I'm going to catch my breath after this.
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25:49What did you say about Trey Tucker? That he was questionable, or that he missed practice.
25:54He's not on an injury report. I'm not sure what you saw.
25:58Jalen Naylor, maybe? Was it Jalen Naylor, quad injury?
26:01Jalen Naylor's a concussion protocol. Okay. I don't know what I saw.
26:05All right, well, that's good. Sorry about that. No, you're fine.
26:08I just caught me off guard because I have to start him in the guillotine link.
26:13Trey Tucker quad injury. I'm going to Google it.
26:16Like, if you're going to have to hope. You know what?
26:19It's probably Sean Tucker that has the quad injury.
26:22Oh, you got the Tuckers confused? I am very sorry about that.
26:26You did say Sean Tucker's injury. I did, yeah.
26:29Oh, man. You're going to have to throw a dart at it one week that Trey Tucker is going to catch a long pass for a touchdown.
26:37This isn't a bad week to do it. Yeah.
26:40It's true. Facing Buffalo, they give up a lot of big plays.
26:44All right. I do have a very quick, it'll be a very quick food review that Heath recommended something and it was
26:51one of the weirdest things I've ever had in my life.
26:54And I'm going to tell you after one question for each game, Houston at Jacksonville.
26:59Heath, how much do we trust the Jaguars offense?
27:02Parker Washington's a must start. Basial Tootin is probably a must start.
27:05He's a number two running back. I'd like to get away.
27:09Brenton Strange is a borderline tight end one. I don't know if trust is the right word, but with four teams on
27:16a bye, you're probably starting most of them. Okay.
27:18Yeah. Their, their offense has been better at home, uh, great at home so far.
27:23And they're, and I mean like truly home Jacksonville, not London.
27:26This is home. Yeah. Uh, Pittsburgh at Tampa Bay.
27:29Is this a tough matchup for the Steelers? Jamie on paper?
27:33Yes. And anytime Todd Bowles is got his blitz working, it's tough for opposing quarterbacks and offenses.
27:38But I think you have one definite must start in Jalen Warren, two potential starting wide receivers, one potential starting tight end and one potential starting quarterback.
27:46So not slam dunks, but four teams on a bye, a lot of injuries.
27:51I think based on how those other players positions are playing, you can turn to them and rely on them in this game.
27:58Yeah. I mean, the Buccaneers is kind of crazy.
28:01They've held Joe Burrow, Jordan Love and Dak Prescott to 17.1 or fewer fantasy points in six point per passing touchdown leagues.
28:08And I am tormented by this Aaron Rogers versus Kirk cousins thing.
28:11I changed my mind every five seconds. Cousins. I've gone with cousins too.
28:16I'm just going to stick with Rogers, but now that Trey Tucker is healthy again, I think cousins.
28:21I'll tell you why there's something about cousins. It's the pressure rate.
28:25The last two weeks, he's been one of the most pressured quarterbacks in football and he's kind of struggled.
28:31Now, two weeks ago, we had a good game, but he threw 52 times or something like that.
28:3654 times. But I don't want to talk you out of Kirk cousins because he could be awesome this week.
28:43I mean, really the only concern with cousins is if they get behind early, do we see Mendoza?
28:48That's that's the other thing. Yeah. Baltimore at Cleveland starters at Harold fan and junior Heath coming off a terrible game.
28:55If you can find Pat Fryermuth on the waiver wire, I would sit him.
28:59If you can find Brenton strange on the waiver wire, I would sit him.
29:04He's not a top 12 tight end for us.
29:06He might score a touchdown. That's pretty much the hope the Ravens see the second fewest tight end targets per game in the NFL.
29:14They do very well on short pass attempts. The Jets at New England.
29:18Are we worried, Jamie, about Garrett Wilson versus Christian Gonzalez?
29:21I do have him ranked too high, so I will drop him a little bit.
29:26This was, I think initially when I ranked him there and I didn't change it with Gonzalez coming off to miss games.
29:33You're not setting him though. It's it's four teams on a buy.
29:36The receiver receiver is the position impacted the most by injury and by weeks.
29:41When you think about the Bengals guys, the Lions guys, Justin Jefferson, he's favorite player of all time.
29:46Malik Washington. You don't have these guys available. Wilson is still going to get targeted and he's been awesome.
29:52So just don't expect him to win you your week.
29:55He'll still be good enough to start. Jalen Coker or Garrett Wilson?
29:59Still was. Okay. Wilson. Tennessee. This is like Wilson.
30:02I have Christian Watson behind him. Like I'd rather start Watson over Wilson just given the matchup, for example.
30:08And I've got some history with with Wilson and Gonzalez that I will share with you when we talk about that game.
30:15Tennessee at Indianapolis. Heath, this is the question that's been on everyone's mind.
30:19Colts and Titans here. Rank the wide receivers in this game.
30:22Carnell Tate, Josh Downs, Wondale Robinson, Keenan Allen. Okay.
30:25Carnell Tate is where for you? 20. 20. Okay.
30:28Okay. That's where he is in the consensus rankings.
30:31Everyone else is a number three receiver. Downs, Wondale, Keenan Allen.
30:34Let's see. Buffalo at Las Vegas. Jamie, you think we can get a big Ashton Gente game?
30:40It'd be nice. It's tough to trust that he's playing at 100%.
30:43You know, you said he practiced in full. There was a little bit of a hubbub in Las Vegas, I guess, when
30:50Dan Graziano of ESPN and the notes column that he does with Jeremy Fowler suggested, I think the report was, internally the
30:57Raiders discussed sitting Gente to get him 100% right because he's got the ankle injury and then the other foot injury on both different legs.
31:05Kubiak said he's playing and then he practices in full.
31:08So, yet to score a rushing touchdown, the majority of his fantasy production, the positive stuff has come from the passing game.
31:15Like you said, the Bills struggle with pass-catching running backs.
31:18So, hopefully that's what you get your numbers from.
31:21Again, four teams on a bye. If you have Ashton Gente, you're thrilled that you have him.
31:26I just don't think that he is a top 12 guy this week.
31:30I think he's just a good number two running back.
31:33I think I might have just changed my mind again.
31:36I think it might go with Cousins over the course.
31:39Look, it's the tight end and quarterbacks that we talked about on waivers.
31:44There's three guys each from each position that you could have pros and cons for and beat yourself up over who you're going to start.
31:51It's Cousins, Rogers, Winston, and it's Strange, Fryermuth, and Higby.
31:54They're all going to be potentially great or they're all going to suck.
31:59I don't think there's any in between with those guys with how they perform.
32:03Yeah, Rogers kind of reverted to old Rogers last week with all these super short pass attempts.
32:08Not to mean he'll do it this week, but he got kind of lucky with that Jalen Warren play.
32:14Chargers are at the Chiefs. How do we feel about the Chiefs passing game this week, Heath?
32:19That will depend on whether Rushy Rice plays. If Rice plays, he's a low-end wide receiver two.
32:25Mahomes is a low-end QB one. Kelsey is a low-end tight end one.
32:29If Rice is out, then Xavier Worthy is a little more exciting as a wide receiver three.
32:34Good, not great. Yeah. Mahomes is tough, I feel like, to me this week.
32:38I don't know how you guys feel about him.
32:41I mean, he's top 12. I don't think you're going to start a waiver wire guy over him.
32:47No, I wouldn't do that. But he's played so well this year.
32:51You know, throwing the deep ball great, but who's he going to throw the deep ball to?
32:56I think the Thornton loss is kind of an underrated thing just for his fantasy value.
33:01He's not really running since week one. He has five rush attempts in the last three games combined.
33:07I don't know. What do you have, around 12th, Mahomes?
33:10I think he's 10th. Who did he get hurt against last year?
33:13Oh, it's the Chargers, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's had this game circled for a while.
33:18Oh, you like him a lot. You have him 7th.
33:21Dave has him 4th. This is with Rice playing.
33:24If Rice is not playing, I will drop him closer where he has him.
33:28Yeah, I mean, he was great last year without Rice.
33:32And Rice hasn't really done that much this year.
33:34You think it's a big deal? I mean, it's not ideal.
33:38But like you said, he hasn't done much with Rice.
33:41He had a great game against the Raiders with Taequann Thornton.
33:44So can Cyrus Allen do that? Can Justin Watson do that?
33:48Can obviously Xavier Worthy do that? That game against the Raiders, Travis Kelsey did nothing.
33:53Well, he wasn't really that great. He scored like 20 points or something.
33:57He scored 21 fantasy points. He actually kind of struggled.
34:0015 of 30. Yeah, I'm not expecting 28 points from Mahomes.
34:03I think he's a good enough start. And again, Kelsey did nothing in that game.
34:08So no Doran James, most likely again. He's got the hamstring injury.
34:12So that helps Kelsey's scenario. Yeah, that's true. All right, real quick food.
34:16I think Xavier Worthy is somebody that, you know, what was the trade you offered me last week?
34:21I can't remember. Was it Shakir? Yeah, it was Shakir for...
34:25Yeah, let's make that trade now. I don't even know who has...
34:28Was that the podcast league? No, that was the Superflex league.
34:32Xavier Worthy. I dropped him. I had to drop him for Kendrick.
34:36Oh my God. I could 1 billion percent use him in the Superflex league.
34:40I have Jefferson. My three receivers from last week.
34:43Justin Jefferson. You picked him up. I did? Yeah.
34:46Oh, let's go. Way to go. That's fantastic. So you tried to trade him with Xavier Worthy.
34:51He declined the trade. No, no, no. He pulled the trade.
34:54He rescinded it. I had to drop Worthy. It was right before kickoff.
34:58I had to drop. You did it for Country Born.
35:02Yeah, it worked out. All right. A food review real quick.
35:05My son was starving the other night. Went to a gas station.
35:09Was trying to get him like a Kind Bar or something.
35:12Very small gas station. Didn't have anything like that.
35:15So I had to go to the Doritos aisle.
35:18And I said, oh, Heath loves late night Doritos.
35:21Yes. Let's give him a try. This is one of the weirdest things I've ever tasted in my life.
35:27The first time it touches your tongue, I think it's disgusting.
35:30It tastes like- Doritos? Late night Doritos, specifically the late night flavor.
35:34It tastes like a taco. And it's just like not what I wanted.
35:38And then you take a bite and it gets so much better.
35:42And you start like feeling it. It's like, oh, this is actually not bad.
35:46But it's one of the weirdest things I've ever had.
35:49I encourage everyone to try late night Doritos. Give me a review.
35:53Jim, I'd love to get you a review of late night Doritos for the mailbag.
35:57I will eat them. I have a great story for the mailbag, by the way.
36:02I'll just give you a little bit of a tease.
36:05So I have to write Starts It every Wednesday.
36:08It takes a very long process. If you read it, you understand why.
36:12And Dan Schneier and Brandon Howard edited it for me.
36:15And they're obviously waiting around, waiting around. So it comes out in segments.
36:19And so I had to do the last part of it, which is the lead of the story, start of the week, tight ends, kicker, defense.
36:27And I had to go drop off my son at an event.
36:31I came back. There was an alligator being dragged across the street.
36:35I'll tell you the rest tomorrow. That's fantastic. Also, if you want the full late night Dorito experience, I don't know if
36:42you eat sour cream or Greek yogurt, whichever one you prefer.
36:45Dipping them in that is fantastic. Because you get a little sour cream on your taco.
36:50Oh, it's fantastic. That's a great idea. Great idea.
36:53By the way, they're- Adam, I'm curious with you because you and I are similar.
36:58You're worse than me as a germaphobe. And I would never do this in public, but only home.
37:03But I make my kids lunch. I give them Doritos quite a bit, Cool Ranch Doritos all the time.
37:09So, um, the only, only, one of the only foods, again, at home only, where I will actually lick my fingers after
37:16I touch it because Doritos on your fingertips are the best.
37:20You have to. I mean, like, Doritos require the licking of fingers.
37:23Absolutely. Yes. All right. Houston at Jacksonville. Stat of the game.
37:27No running back has more than 12 carries against the Jaguars.
37:30No running back has reached 40 rushing yards yet against the Jaguars.
37:34Chase Brown, with a big receiving game, is the only running back with more than 60 total yards against the Jaguars.
37:41They have not faced the toughest competition. They've faced Cleveland, Denver, New England, Cincinnati, and Philadelphia without Saquon Barkley.
37:46Um, we've kind of talked about the Jaguars and our expectations for them, but Jamie, what are our expectations for waiver wire?
37:53Uh, number one guy, Woody Marks. So he's kind of alluded to this, uh, a couple of times.
37:59It's a bad week for running backs. I think if you pick up Woody Marks, given his expected workload, you should be
38:06starting him as a number two guy this week.
38:09So the matchup sucks. The Jaguars number three and fewest fantasy points allowed to opposing running backs.
38:14I'm hoping what we've seen from two games, at least so far this year, he's been involved in the passing game.
38:20And I think that's going to matter here. Like we saw with Chase Brown, not, he's not catching 10 passes, but can he get to four or five?
38:29I think that's realistic. Is he going to have a good rushing average?
38:33Probably not. Um, this is a better Houston offense than we've seen in recent years.
38:38CJ Stroud looks like rookie CJ Stroud again. And now you're injecting Marvin Harrison for what that's worth into the offense.
38:45Maybe tank Dell. Um, I think that Houston will score against Jacksonville and that should lead to Woody Marks having some good enough production.
38:52So, um, don't love it. If this was no teams on a buy and we had everybody available injury wise, I think
38:59Woody Marks is at best of flex. But for this week, I think he qualifies as a top 20 guy.
39:05You know, he got, he kind of gets that.
39:08I think I have, uh, where, where Damian Pierce, Tony Pollard, Marshawn lied where that Bermuda triangle sort of, you know, connects
39:15like that's right where Woody Marks is right in front of us.
39:19I like Woody a lot more in full PPR.
39:21Um, I think I, I didn't, I don't know if Jamie said this because I was having some connection issues over the
39:28last 60 seconds, but you mentioned that Buffalo gives up a lot of catches to running backs.
39:34Jacksonville tied with Buffalo for the second most receptions to running backs per game.
39:38A little misleading with the chase Brown game, but you're right.
39:41You wouldn't start what he marks over, um, basial tootin though.
39:45Cause he has a tough matchup too. I would start basial tootin, but that's close.
39:49Um, I would, I would start just, you know, again, for what it's worth, not that these guys are playing great, but
39:56I would start Woody marks easily over Jeremiah love and, uh, Omar in Hampton.
40:01Oh yeah. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. If someone asked Kendry Miller or Woody marks marks, unless Kamara is ruled out, then it's
40:08closer marks or Romo duns a PPR marks marks marks marks or Luther burden.
40:12It's close. I'd probably still go marks. Me too.
40:15Okay. Uh, CJ Stroud or Trevor Lawrence. I like Stroud better.
40:18Uh, Lawrence for me. Oh, where do you have those guys?
40:22Back to back Stroud at 13 Lawrence at 14.
40:24I think 13 and 15. Yeah. Okay. All right.
40:27So you could start Chuck over them. Uh, who's had more 20 point games.
40:32I think the same three for each. That's a great question.
40:35Yeah. It's a good call. Uh, yeah, it's definitely three for Lawrence and I'm pretty sure it's three for Stroud because he's
40:42had 20 or more in every game with Nico.
40:45It is the only issue I have with, sorry, he's the only issue I have with Stroud is like, look who he's done it against with Nico Collins.
40:54He scored 20.5 fantasy points against Buffalo. That's really not good.
40:57Scored 27 fantasy points against Dallas. That's great, but Dallas is terrible.
41:0123 fantasy points at Tennessee. You know, he's had a really easy schedule.
41:05Well, Jacksonville is allowing the seventh fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks.
41:08Joe Burrow is the only guy to score more than 16 points against the Jaguars.
41:13And he had 54 pass attempts and a rushing touchdown.
41:16They haven't given up multiple touchdowns, passing touchdowns in a game yet.
41:20But didn't he play a couple of games without, was Nico just missed one or did he miss two?
41:26Two. Two. And now Marvin Harrison Jr. Is his wide receiver too, which I think will help.
41:31Um, this week, man, if, if I could be a really good pass offense.
41:35Yeah. He is playing pretty well, man. He's, he's slinging it.
41:39No doubt. All right. So Woody marks and, uh, Bajal toot, and we talked about guys.
41:44You could start over them. Agree or disagree. Start.
41:47Ramondre. Yes. Yep. Even if, if Henderson plays. Oh, okay.
41:50And Bajal tootin, I mean, uh, sorry, Chuba Hubbard and Jalen Warren, obviously you could start.
41:55And, and same with, even if Rico plays still Jalen Warren.
41:58How about Emmanuel Wilson tonight or running back in this game?
42:02I would take Emmanuel Wilson. I mean, back-to-back games with 20 plus touches.
42:06It's hard to overlook. I would start tootin. Yeah.
42:08After all those late night Doritos, I bet you would.
42:12How about, uh, Bajal tootin? That was a good one.
42:15Bajal tootin or, um, Michael Wilson at the Rams.
42:18Uh, I'd go Wilson and PPR. Yeah. Carnell Tate.
42:20I would go tootin. Yep. Okay. Anyone want to start Marvin Harrison or just kind of wait and see?
42:26Wait and see. Wait and see. Uh, he's probably available in some 10 team leagues.
42:31If you play with Dave, you know he's available in one.
42:34Um, I think just the hope would be is that you start to see something.
42:39There was this video posted of him running routes and practice like, Oh, look how much better he looks like.
42:45I'm, you know what? He was tanking in Arizona to get out.
42:49Like it's going to be, it's going to be a better situation.
42:53You know, we'll, we'll, we'll see. This isn't a matchup that you should run away from.
42:58I think you should be encouraged by Harrison. If you have him and you're stuck this week, then start him in a three receiver league.
43:06But I would like to see what it looks like.
43:09I, I do kind of believe that like, he just, like he was really, really unhappy in Arizona.
43:14I expect him to be a better route runner than he was the last couple of weeks.
43:20I think he was just fed up with that role.
43:23Yes. He was definitely fed up with the cardio role.
43:26I, I'm curious because of the comments, like, did Jeremiah love, see this unfold and just be like, I'm going to, I'm not waiting three years.
43:34Like, get me out here. No, I hope not.
43:37I hope not. Okay. Let's talk about the tight ends here real quick guys.
43:41What do you mean? You hope not. You got a hall of fame quarterback because of somebody wanting not to be in
43:48a place that they wanted, didn't want to go.
43:51No, I just like, it's, it would make me sad for the Cardinals if they two of their last three, they're a poorly run organization.
43:59Well, they're trying to change that. Yeah. You know, how I don't know.
44:03They have a new coach and I don't know.
44:06Anyway, Brenton strange adult and shows us a guy.
44:08They're sitting. Don't start him. Brenton strange or Harold fan and junior strange, strange, Brenton strange or Pat Fryer.
44:14I mean, if he said, you love Pat Fryer.
44:17I mean, it's another one I've gone back and forth on matchup is definitely better for Fryer.
44:22But not by much. So, uh, if you want to go for our move, I have no problem with that.
44:29Brenton strange or Juwan Johnson. Johnson. Yeah. All right.
44:32Uh, all right. So you can start Brenton strange.
44:34She's a solid start, but, uh, don't start. Don't start Dalton Schultz.
44:38Which DST do you like better? Texans. Yeah. See questions from the chat and we'll move on from this game.
44:44The left tackle issue could be huge. What do you marks or Marshawn Lloyd?
44:49Marks. Yep. Lawrence or purdy. Purdy. Oh, purdy. Yeah.
44:51Parker Washington or Mike Evans? Evans. Evans. Parker Washington or either starting Packers wide receiver.
44:56Both Packers. Watson, Parker, Golden, but that's all close.
44:59Yeah. I don't think you have to really get away from, from Parker Washington.
45:03Right now the Texans are giving up the second most fantasy points to wide receivers.
45:08We expect them to be better than they would, what they've been, but he's plays in the slot.
45:14He moves around. Like he's not going to get shot.
45:17He's their best offensive players. I don't think it's close.
45:20Trevor Lawrence or Kirk cousins. I would go cousins.
45:23Me too. We definitely like Jordan love over him.
45:26Woody marks or Braylon Allen. We like Braylon Allen.
45:28Yep. Woody marks or Jalen Waddle. Marks. Yep. Parker Washington or Ramondre Stevenson.
45:32Uh, Ramondre. If there's no Henderson Parker, if there's Henderson.
45:36Sure. Okay. All right. Moving on to our next game here.
45:39And that would be Pittsburgh to Tampa Bay, but moving on to our next commercial break, we'll be back with six more AFC home games.
45:47Although Tampa Bay is not an AFC home game.
45:50I get it, but they have an AFC opponent.
45:52So that game and five AFC home games after this.
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48:12Here we go. Pittsburgh at Tampa Bay and Aaron Rogers versus Kirk cousins.
48:16You guys appear to be on the cousin side now.
48:19Yeah. Oh, yep. Wonderful. Yeah. So Rogers three straight amazing games in a row, Tampa Bay 10th best against quarterbacks and, and, and, uh, Joe Burrow struggled.
48:28Jordan love struggled. Dak Prescott struggled. Now, do they struggle?
48:31Did they just not put up big numbers? That's a separate question, but they didn't put up big numbers.
48:37So Rogers very, very low a dot last week.
48:39Could more conservative game plan. I didn't love seeing that he benefited from the Warren catch and run.
48:45He benefited from two defenders colliding with each other that left Pat Frymuth, open for his second touchdown.
48:51Um, all right. Well, anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same thing.
48:55I mean, you got a blitzing, a defense here and potentially a low scoring offense.
49:00So you might have another conservative week out of the Steelers and you just have to hope that the touchdowns are there.
49:07I think just Rogers is playing so well right now.
49:10McCarthy's got a good game plan, good structure. Um, the, the, the, really the question, I think when you start to, you
49:17know, Rogers comparing him to cousins or Lawrence or Stroud or these guys, you know, that's where he belongs, you know?
49:23So whether you want to make a transaction to pick up Rogers and drop wherever you have, he's a great biweek replacement.
49:30If you don't have Burrow or golf, I think that's obvious.
49:34Um, I'm just curious, like what happens to Warren?
49:36If doubt will come back to me, that's the biggest question for the Steelers.
49:41Yeah. Well, what do you think? I assume doubtles, I assume he's going to be back.
49:46I mean, it seems like he's getting there and they said that Jalen Warren's earned more of a role, but he's not
49:53going to have as many touches as he's had.
49:55So, you know, you're talking about a top five guy without doubt.
49:59Is he still top 10? Is he still stopped?
50:02Top 15? Again, you're not sitting him in any scenario unless you have B.
50:06John Robinson and Chuba Hubbard. Maybe, I don't know.
50:09You know, those, those type of guys Hubbard might be the only one that you consider over him if doubtles there.
50:16So I, you know, I took, I took, I'm sorry.
50:19Just a matter of like how, how I'll finish.
50:22I'm sorry. No, it's okay. I took 10% basically off of Warren's workload with the expectation that doubtles working his way back.
50:28If Dall gets a full practice, maybe I'll take another five to 10% off, but that's still 15 to 17 touches.
50:35And he's been so incredibly efficient that I think he's probably for me going to be somewhere between seventh and 10th in the running back rankings.
50:43You're not going to drop him below Ashton, Jenty, Braylon Allen.
50:47And I'm not going to drop him below Bucky Irving in the same game.
50:51He's, he's a top 12 running back, even if Dall plays.
50:54And four running backs already have five catches against the bucks for what it's worth.
50:59So I don't know. I mean, it's a theory of mine.
51:03I don't have any hard evidence, but you blitz a lot.
51:06It makes sense to throw to the running back in that situation.
51:10Right? So you get the ball out quickly and try to beat the defense like that.
51:15This is definitely a Rogers. Not that he doesn't do his all the time, but run the clock down, try and figure
51:22out where the bullets is coming from. Yeah. It's going to be a slow game for them.
51:27So what about the receivers? Do you like Bernard or Metcalf this week?
51:31And, or, and a book. I'll throw a book in there.
51:34I don't think we're going to start Chris Godwin, but Bernard Metcalf, a book.
51:39Heath, how do you rank them? So I think I'm not, might be the highest on Bernard and Metcalf, but I would go Metcalf, Bernard, a book.
51:47Metcalf's a number two wide receiver. Bernard and a book are number three wide receivers.
51:52No, great. I have Metcalf and Bernard back to back 24, 25.
51:56And a book is like right around 30. 31.
51:58You got lucky last week with the rushing touchdown, you know, nine targets was fantastic.
52:03That's against Dallas. He had six catches for 38 yards, you know, so you'd like to see that type of involvement.
52:10I'd love to see a few more, you know, opportunities down the field.
52:14You are talking about the Steelers defense versus the Cowboys defense.
52:17The pressure is going to be much different for Jalen Daniels.
52:21So I just don't think you should have high expectations.
52:24So one of the receivers will probably make a play.
52:27Last week we saw it was Tez Johnson, you know, getting the broken play and getting the big play down the field.
52:34You know, that's kind of what Daniels is going to try to do.
52:38Be my guess. I think this is a game where the Steelers are probably playing with a lead.
52:43I don't know how big of a lead. And then we see this, you know, bucks offense, what it looks like to me.
52:51The only safe start for, for Tampa is buck here.
52:54I said on Sunday morning stream that if I'm grumpy, it's going because I started so many guys, like I had so
53:01many tough lineup decisions and I started the wrong guy.
53:04If I'm grumpy this coming Sunday night, it's because Jeremy Bernard was, was like not involved or really bad because I, I
53:11haven't calculated it, but I think I may have spent like $3,000 in fab on Jeremy Bernard this week.
53:16So he is, I'm heavily invested. Please be good.
53:19Yeah. I mean, I feel like everyone on Pittsburgh is a tough call except Warren.
53:24I don't know how you get, well, I can see you getting worn out of your lineup because he would, you drafted
53:31him to be your number three or number four running back.
53:34So you have difficult decisions with him. And now doubt all is probably coming back, but we just don't know what to, you're not bad.
53:42No, I mean, you're not benching him, but there's certainly a scenario where, I mean, you could have, I think, I think
53:49I have, well, I think he's my number three running back on a team because I just happened to get lucky in that regard.
53:56And no flex. I don't know. I'm starting him.
53:59I don't know what the scenario would be, but.
54:02Basically, like the, I don't, I don't really like, I'm starting Pat Fryer with over almost everybody.
54:07But it's because I think they're using him more as their third wide receiver.
54:12And now with only having really two wide receivers, that usage might even go up more of a 60% of his snaps.
54:19He's lined up in the slaughter out wide. Um, he, he just is a wide receiver.
54:24He finally, last week was Pat Fryer. His first week with a target share over 13%, I think.
54:29And like, I kind of made this point that the, the guys on the, on the Steelers have really benefited from them throwing so much.
54:37If they don't throw so much, they could be flops, especially against the books who just, have been pretty solid against the pass.
54:44So, all right, let's see what the chat has to say on the buck side of the ball.
54:50Um, you know, is there any hesitation with Bucky Irving?
54:53Uh, no, no. Okay. Like how do you compare Bucky with Bejal Tootin and Woody Marks?
54:58Better. He's better. All right. So he's going to be started coming off that great game.
55:03And again, if Sean Tucker, not Trey Tucker, if Sean Tucker, this is the game that takes away an obstacle, uh, a Buka.
55:10Yeah. Buka is where, let me check where a Buka is in 30 dish.
55:15He is 29th for Jamie 31st for Heath. Dave has, is the high guy on a Buka at 23rd.
55:20He had a lot of targets last week. He had a rushing touchdown as well.
55:25Um, and Kate Otten, if you're desperate, they, they involve him a lot, but not, I don't know.
55:31Maybe that's more of a Baker Mayfield thing. All right.
55:34So here come the chat questions. Jeremy Bernard or Mecca Buka?
55:37Bernard. Bernard. Loveland or Friarmuth? Muth. Friarmuth. Friarmuth or Pitts?
55:40Muth. Yep. Jaleel McLaughlin or Kenny, or Kenneth Gainwell?
55:43Uh, a lot of moving parts there, but probably McLaughlin's the easiest answer.
55:47Yeah. Rogers, Winston, or Daniel Jones? Rogers. I agree.
55:50Warren or Swift. So that's a, that's one where Warren will fall behind Swift.
55:55If doubt a place. Unless Mononga comes back. That's for me.
55:58Yeah. Kendry, probably Warren. He did not practice. Mononga did not practice.
56:02Kendry Miller or Chris Godwin? Miller. Yeah. Jeremy Bernard, Jalen Waddle, or Luther Burden, half PPR.
56:07Burden. Yeah. You like Bernard over Waddle? Yes. I do not.
56:10They're back to back. I think Metcalf born or downs PPR.
56:14Okay. Metcalf. I'm ill. Come on, man. Like he's get it going here.
56:18Bucky or Stephen. He was going. And then last week, Evan, he was going.
56:22Yeah. He got two, two long catches on like the last drive of their second, last drive of the game against Cleveland, which was nice to see.
56:30Um, but again, that's what I'm saying. Last week is like a five yard a dot for Aaron Rogers.
56:36That's terrible for Metcalf. Bucky or Stevenson. Uh, right now it's Stevenson, but it will be Bucky if Henderson plays.
56:43I've got Bucky either way. Pittsburgh's DST is worth starting.
56:46Tampa Bay allows the most fantasy points. DSTs Baltimore and Cleveland.
56:49I don't have a stat of the game. I have a profile of the game.
56:54I want to talk more about Denzel Boston because he keeps coming through for the most part.
56:59There are 61 receivers with 20 or more targets.
57:02Denzel Boston ranks first in yards per catch out of 61 receivers with 20 or more targets.
57:07He ranks fifth in yards per target. Here are the guys ahead of Denzel Boston in yards per target.
57:13Drake London, Zay Flowers, Christian Watson, Jackson Smith and Jigba.
57:16You know who he is? Who? He's out. He's Alec Pierce.
57:20He's Alec Pierce a little bit. Yep. He's got a 16.5 yard a dot.
57:24And he also has a 16.5% target per route.
57:27Run rate. That's the most concerning thing for him.
57:30He has a 20% target share, which is okay.
57:33The target per route run rate doesn't matter all that much with him because he's one of the few receivers who runs almost every single route.
57:41But his three touchdowns, Denzel Boston's three touchdowns this year, 46, 55 and 29 yards out.
57:46I'm painting the picture of a guy who is coming through for you in fantasy most weeks, but makes me nervous as hell.
57:53He has a terrible profile for fantasy. But every week, it seems like Deshaun Watson will throw one incredible pass in the
58:00end zone on a deep ball to Denzel Boston.
58:03So, starter sit, Jamie, Denzel Boston. I'm starting him.
58:05Again, four teams on a bye, all the injuries at the position.
58:09Maybe he sees a slight uptick in targets if Concepcion doesn't play.
58:13This feels like chasing points, throwing the ball late in the game, which has happened to him twice.
58:18So, look, at some point, you just have to say, luck, yes.
58:22Is it going to stop at some point? Sure.
58:25But, how many times are you going to stare at him sitting on your bench and say, I wish I started Denzel Boston?
58:32So, you start to compare him to Jalen Waddle, for example, who's been struggling, or DK Metcalf.
58:38Steelers, yes. You like him better than the Steelers guys?
58:41Yeah. Okay. Heath? I think there's like a million moving parts for Denzel Boston.
58:45Does Concepcion play? Does Quinshawn Judkins play? And one maybe people aren't thinking about, does Lamar Jackson play?
58:51Because I think this line has moved quite a bit with positive reports that Lamar Jackson could come back this week.
58:57If Tyler Huntley is starting, I don't think this is a five and a half point spread, and I don't think the
59:04Ravens' implied point total is near as high against the Browns' defense.
59:08And if the Ravens don't have a lead, then I don't think there's a lot of Deshaun Watson Yolo bowls in the second half.
59:15So, right now, I have Boston just behind the Steelers wide receivers, just ahead of Josh Downs, Zemecka, Buka, and Terry McLaurin.
59:22I think he's like, that profile you described is the profile of the boom bust number three wide receiver that we talk about.
59:29He's boomed a few times. He could bust any week.
59:33He could boom again this week. Yeah. All right.
59:35The easy ones in this game, Derrick Henry is easy.
59:38There's not that many. Zay Flowers is pretty easy.
59:41He's a cinch of Lamar Jackson plays. He scored 14.9 fantasy points last week with Tyler Huntley.
59:47Tyler Huntley having one of his better games. It's basically the last three games with Tyler Huntley has been the exact same
59:53thing, except last week he had the 19 yard rush.
59:57It's, he's going to get you 13 points probably.
59:59But he also had a chunk play, probably like a 15 yard catch that they took off.
60:05They, they accepted a pass. It was longer than that.
60:08It was like 20 something yards. Was it? Yeah.
60:11They accepted a pass interference penalty, which you don't really see.
60:14I can sway the bet. You don't really see.
60:17I know. I was just thinking that. I was like, Oh, I hope to God that the bet is decided on that play.
60:24You don't see a team like take away stats from their player, but it was on their game tying drive.
60:30It was, it was like a deep pitch and the penalty was five yards further than the catch.
60:36So it made sense. Yeah. Great. Um, so, uh, anyway, I'm sure there are people who lost their fantasy game because of that.
60:43Yeah. Well, it wasn't me. So start Henry, start flowers at worst.
60:47That's like top 15 guy. Better. If Lamar Jackson plays Mark Andrews or Harold Fanny jr.
60:52Okay. Okay. Uh, yeah, I got this theory about the, about the Ravens defense.
60:56They remind me of the bills last year where they don't, a lot of teams are very content to just give up
61:03short passes and then make the tackle. They are not.
61:06They, they try to cover this from what I saw.
61:09Anyway, they try to cover those guys and they allow the fourth lowest completion percentage, six lowest yards per attempt on air
61:16yards on the past attempts of seven or fewer area or zero to seven yards, which is where tight ends live.
61:23Terrible, terrible Harold Vandenstead. Uh, he had a 24% target per route run last year.
61:27It's 17% this year. Wow. That's like, that's just not, if you're not, unless you're in a really good offense, that's not a starting tight end.
61:36Yeah, that stinks. Um, but he had had three good games in a row before I died against the jet.
61:42He's the, he's the touchdown or bust tight end right now.
61:45And thankfully the tight end position has been good enough that we don't start touchdown or bust tight ends.
61:51True. And I guess we don't start Mark Andrews either.
61:54Um, all right. So then the last thing here would be, well, first of all, Deshaun Watson and interest in Sean Watson.
62:01No, not with all the other guys that are like Jameis is rostered in Leslie.
62:06They'd rather start Jameis. I think he's in a similar range as Jameis, but Jameis has been a lot better lately.
62:12What did he, Keith, give me a rundown of how you're treating the, uh, Cleveland running backs.
62:18Oh boy. So we're not expecting Judkins to play right now.
62:21And so I have Jaleel McLaughlin, like right around RB 30, which is pretty bad this week.
62:26Cause once you get past the top 18 running backs, it's just pretty gross.
62:31Um, he might go up a little bit if Judkins is ruled out, but he's probably going to score around 10 PPR fantasy points.
62:38This team has thrown the ball. Like you mentioned, I think it was McLaughlin versus Kenneth Gainwell.
62:44Raheem Sanders, I think has been better than Kenneth Gainwell.
62:47So even if Judkins plays, McLaughlin might be better than Kenneth Gainwell.
62:51Um, cause they've thrown it to their running backs a lot.
62:54If, if Judkins is out, then I think Audrey Kastame is probably going to handle more early down work than we want him to.
63:01And McLaughlin will steep be in that RB 30 range.
63:05If Judkins plays, put them in the Omari and Hampton range and hope.
63:09Okay. So just one more, one more name. I'm expecting Judkins to sit.
63:13I would love to see Dylan Sampson get healthy and be the guy.
63:17Because I think he can play on passing downs.
63:20They don't have to take him off the field.
63:22So none of these guys are great rushers. And so if they give Samson the opportunity to play 70% of the snaps,
63:29but he didn't practice at all yesterday, right? Right.
63:32Uh, he, he did not. But the fact that they're talking about opening his window, again, it's hope, you know?
63:38So if we're talking about no Judkins and the choices are Samson, McLaughlin, and estimate, I want to see Samson.
63:45Adam, I think a good off season, uh, study for you, this seems like something you'd be really good at is like,
63:51I, my, from what I'm remembering, the practice window being open usually means the players two to three weeks away.
63:58Yeah. I want, I want to know how many times the practice window has been open and a guy's played that week.
64:05Okay. Well, hopefully it starts with AJ Brown. Well, Jacoby Lane also another one that sounds like he's trending in the right direction.
64:12I'm trying to think this happened at all this year.
64:15And I, I think there's a difference between the practice window opening for the public versus IR same, same timeframe, right?
64:21If I'm not mistaken, it's 21 days, but usually the IR guys are coming back from something that happened in season and
64:28they're probably a little bit more ahead, far ahead.
64:31I don't know. All right, let's read some questions here.
64:34Boston burden or Woody marks. Woody. I would go with Woody.
64:38Judkins or Dobbins. If Judkins, you're not going to, that's a Thursday night or you got to go Dobbins.
64:44Got to play Dobbins. Fannin or Higby. Higby. I've got Fannin flowers or Parker Washington.
64:48Flowers. Lamar Jackson thing. I've got flowers just one spot ahead with Huntley.
64:52So I'm going flowers either way. Jamie, you go fly.
64:55You go flowers. If Lamar was either way. Oh, you said flowers.
64:59Oh, I'm sorry. Boston or craft. Hmm. Boston. That's a good one.
65:03I have, I've got craft Ravens, DST or Seahawks, DST.
65:06Seahawks. Yeah. Ravens have been a bad DST. Ravens or Niners.
65:09Ravens for me. Um, I'll go Niners. I think.
65:12Vele or Jacoby Lane. If he plays this week, you gotta go Vele.
65:16Yeah. McLaughlin or Kendry Miller or Wondale Robinson. Wondale's floor is very safe at 11 PBR points.
65:22Three, three games in a row. Uh, Miller would be the easy choice for me.
65:26If there is no Camara, I'll go Wondale or Miller.
65:29I'll go Wondale. Probably. I mean, yes, I agree.
65:32Miller if Camara is out, but he, we've got a partial practice on Wednesday.
65:37So I'm expecting him. here's my last question about this game.
65:40Is there another Cleveland wide receiver you'd be interested in?
65:43Like Concepcion if he plays? Cause I would be, I mean, he had eight to nine targets in two straight games before last week.
65:51I mean, he 11 PPR points. If that's what you're looking for.
65:54Sure. I think I'd start him over McLaughlin. Yeah.
65:57Sure. Yeah. It's like Wondale. All right. Uh, jets at Patriots.
66:01Don't disrespect Wondo. If you want to know the history of, uh, Garrett Wilson versus Christian Gonzalez back in 2024, it looks like Gonzalez shadow.
66:09I was watching the targets and most, some of the routes Gonzalez pretty much shadowed him in, in like week two or something like that.
66:16And he had five catches, 33 yards and a touchdown on nine targets.
66:20So he struggled. The second time they played, Devante Adams was on the team and Gonzalez shadowed Devante Adams and Garrett Wilson had a huge game, 113 yards.
66:29Uh, I would not be surprised if, if Gonzalez did a really good job on Garrett Wilson.
66:34So again, if I, I don't have Garrett Wilson, but I would start him, but I just have to bring that up.
66:41We talked about that earlier during a one question for each game.
66:45Braylon Allen is a top 17 running brat back, but Ramondre Stevenson's even better than that.
66:50Stevenson is 12th, uh, top, top 14 for everyone between 11 and 14.
66:54He's just behind Chuba Hubbard. He's right there with Bucky Irving.
66:58He's behind Deandre Swift. Uh, I, what are the tough calls in this game?
67:02Cause we're going to sit Gino. There actually are some tough call.
67:06We're definitely straight may for sure. Um, let's say AJ Brown does not play Jamie.
67:10How do you feel? How do you feel about the, uh, Patriots wide receivers?
67:15Listen, somebody is going to play, give you something.
67:18And I wish that there was, here's why it's going to be this guy.
67:22So last week it was two touchdowns for Demario Douglas.
67:25It was a touchdown for Kyle Williams. It was, huh?
67:28He lost that matchup. You just made me think about Yolo again.
67:32Oh, sorry. I love Demario Douglas. I love him.
67:35He's awesome. Yeah. Uh, it, it was, you know, Chisholm with six targets and five catches, whatever it was.
67:41Uh, uh, he's got back to back weeks with kind of that.
67:44He's the new Malik Washington. Um, so if, if like we're just ranking them as flexes, I would say Hunter Henry is one.
67:52Then I would go Chisholm to Douglas three. I'm sorry.
67:55I would go Henry one Dobbs to Chisholm three Douglas four Williams five, but it was the first game without Matt Collins too.
68:02So yeah. And he's on IR now. Yeah. So it's really just a dart throw.
68:07So that league where I referenced where I'm down, like a bunch of receivers, I picked up Demario Douglas.
68:13It's bottom of the barrel. Just yeah. Somebody with a pulse.
68:16And hopefully he, uh, he comes through. That is bottom of the barrel right there.
68:21Who, which quarterbacks are you starting over Drake may Jordan love?
68:24Yes. I may hire, but that's close. Yeah. Drake may is a top five guy.
68:29You start here. All right. Hunter Henry is not like a slam dunk start here.
68:33Would you start Hunter Henry or, um, who did we just talk about?
68:37We had fan in Mark Andrews, Henry over those guys.
68:41Yep. But moose and strange over Henry. He he's, he's, you know, back-to-back games with 11 PPR points, one touchdown over that span.
68:48He, uh, the jets have actually done a pretty good job against tight ends.
68:52You know, I know it's not like, Oh, they're great because of this player, that player, but they are, they are doing a good job containing the position.
69:01The irony of all that is that Aaron Glenn is defending the position.
69:05but his former team cannot come close to it.
69:08Um, so I, I think if you, you know, kind of been riding Henry for the last couple of weeks as your,
69:15you know, de facto streamer, keep, keep him. but if you could pick up for our move or I like, he'd be better.
69:22Uh, and, and, strange as well. Okay. And then, uh, yeah, Braylon Allen, like I said, he's a, he's a really solid number two running back.
69:30The Patriots run defense has not quite been what it was last year.
69:34Not even close last week, maybe a step in the right direction.
69:38Well, their run defense is still decent. Their fantasy production allowed has been dramatically different.
69:42I mean, last year they were the best run defense in the NFL when they had, it's not, it's not the same,
69:49but even close to that, but it's not, it's certainly not a good matchup.
69:54Uh, but they do allow the fifth most receiving yards per game to running backs.
69:58We'll see if they can get Braylon Allen involved there.
70:02That hasn't really been the case. Uh, well, to be fair, he had four targets last week and only one catch from New York.
70:09That's true. He had a drop, but he was out open in space, had a drop in the rain giants, DST or jets, DST from the chat.
70:17No, go get the Colts. Um, if this is the best you have, I guess I'd probably go giants.
70:23I would. Yeah. Yeah. Me too, but not, yeah, but I don't want to do that.
70:28Bray sit one, Braylon Allen, Deandre Swift or Emmanuel Wilson, Wilson, uh, Braylon, Patrick, Holmes or Drake may, may, okay.
70:35Uh, Ramondre, Emmanuel Wilson or Braylon Allen. Who's your favorite?
70:38Ramondre. Yep. All right. Ramondre is top 12 right now are right around there.
70:42Where are you going to rank them? If Travion plays 14, 15, 18, Azar loves shadow receivers.
70:47And who's the goal line back? Yes, I do.
70:50I love the, I love it. I love a number one cornerback going up against the number one receiver.
70:56It's one of my favorite things in, we don't get it as much as we used to.
71:01We really don't, but we do with Christian Gonzalez.
71:04They don't mess around most of the time with him.
71:07He, he shadows. Adam is way smarter than Dan.
71:10That is complete. I have no idea what the context is.
71:14I just saw it and I put a star next to it.
71:17Thank you, Henry or Sam. Sam, can we show that tomorrow on the mailbag please?
71:22Get Dan's commentary. I'd like, I think next year's competition should just be an IQ test.
71:27Oh my God. Adam would kill him. No, I don't think so.
71:31Dan's very smart, but I, I do think I did better on the SATs.
71:35I will, you know, let's just go back to that.
71:38I don't want to take an IQ test. Uh, Henry or craft.
71:42I think our production staff would much rather do an inside IQ test and set up for tennis again.
71:48Um, craft for me. Last one. Uh, Brayla pick to Braylon Allen, Emmanuel Wilson, Jaleel McLaughlin, and Bajal Tootin.
71:54Uh, Wilson and Tootin for me, Allen and Tootin for me.
71:57All right. And that's it for this game. Um, let's see.
72:01We got Tennessee and Indianapolis. Sorry to keep you all waiting.
72:04Save the best for last. No, I got, I got two more after because I do.
72:09Come on. I think we get, well, look at, I don't do it by like best game.
72:15I do it by tough calls. All right. Buffalo Las Vegas is super easy.
72:19And then the last game is Kansas city and the chargers.
72:22That's pretty easy too. Right. This game is kind of tough actually with Josh down.
72:27So even Tony Pollard, right? The Tony Pollard to bounce back.
72:30Um, Wandale and Carnell Tate. And actually there may not be a single must start in this game other than Taylor, Oh, Tyler Warren.
72:38But there are a lot of guys that I think we're going to get questions about.
72:43So Heath, how do you see it? Like Taylor, obviously Tyler Warren, obviously there's a lot of fringy guys.
72:49Who, who do you like? Um, well, Taylor and Warren are the guys that we like.
72:54I think my, my next favorite guy in full PPR would be Tate and then Pollard and then downs.
73:00And then, and Wandale who apparently, unfortunately they're kind of the same guy.
73:04Um, but yeah, it's, it's in that range. I've seen some people maybe wanting to stream Daniel Jones.
73:10I don't really love that. Um, I think you're probably going to end up starting Tony Pollard this week, unless you just found gold on the waiver wire.
73:18Well, you got Braylon Allen, right? You got obviously Jalen Moore.
73:22You'd start Braylon Allen over Tony Pollard. I assume.
73:25I would. How about, yeah, I, I think the, the tough calls for Pollard would be Marshawn Lloyd because of just where he's at and touchdown potential.
73:33Um, in terms of waiver, our guys, Damien Pierce, you know, what about Woody Marks?
73:38I would start Marks over him, but I would do more of like the, the lower tier waiver wire guys.
73:44So, and if for whatever reason, you know, Kamara doesn't make it through a full practice, that back injury may, like he
73:51said, he may play, but he may not be a hundred percent.
73:54And Kendrick Miller gets the giants. There's to me more of a pass catching role for Tony Pollard, but not significantly more
74:01after what we saw last week, then Kendrick Miller and Miller may score a touchdown.
74:06Against the giants, because that's what happens. Man, I've had such a hard time with the Kendrick Miller thing.
74:12Cause he did score a touchdown, but do you know that CJ Donaldson led saints running backs and snaps?
74:18Yeah. I mean, yeah, they, they couldn't do anything offensively though.
74:21So it's hard to like, you throw that game out.
74:24Nah, it's the only reason we might start Kendrick Miller.
74:28Well, the giants are the reason, but the Colts are terrible against running backs too.
74:32The Colts give up 4.7 yards per carry. So to backs, they're giving up the six most fantasy points, the most receiving
74:39yards per game to running backs, which might be why Dave likes a tie J Spears a little bit more than you guys do this week.
74:47But if you look at who the Colts have played, they were bad against Derek Henry.
74:52They're bad against Kenneth Walker. They were bad against Jalen Warren.
74:56They were good against the Houston guys. They were good against the Washington guys.
75:00And Tony Pollard is closer to Houston and Washington than he is to Henry Walker and Jalen Warren.
75:06He's in the middle, but, um, you know, Pollard, he has what?
75:0914, 17, 16 carries in his last three games.
75:12Uh, no. And then 14 again. So 14 or more in four straight games for Tony Pollard.
75:18I believe in most weeks, he'd be a flex this week.
75:21He's right around 20th. I think you're just looking at it as comparing him to, did you, did you need to make
75:28a roster move to go get Damian Pierce or to go get, uh, Kendra Miller or to go get Jaleel McGoff?
75:34And like, that's dependent on what you, you know, have on the rest of your bench.
75:39I think Pollard is serviceable. I just don't think he's league winner without finding the end zone.
75:45He could easily score, you know, but the, the thing about Spears last week, he had five catches coming into the, the, the game.
75:52He leaves with nine on nine targets for fewer than 30 yards.
75:56So it's not like you're talking about a, like this was, this was the, uh, the poster child performance for why people hate PPR.
76:03Yeah. Do you think that, um, Carnell Tate is better than, uh, who've we been talking about?
76:09Like you wouldn't start Carnell Tate over Garrett Wilson or anything, but you'd start over Josh Downs.
76:14Yeah. I started over the Steelers. Okay. Yeah. Steelers guys.
76:17Heath would start them over them. Jamie, how about you?
76:20Tate versus Steelers guys. Yeah. I, for me, I started the Steelers guys, but they're essentially it's DK, uh, Bernard and Tate back to back to back.
76:29So, you know, two solid games for Carnell Tate where he looked like he was starting to build towards something and then
76:36has this back injury, which I think could be the reason why he struggled last week.
76:41Um, I don't know. I, I, I'd like to see a little bit more consistency.
76:45And if you're just talking consistency, Wondell Robinson has been more consistent than Carnell Tate, you know?
76:51So there's easy, there's an argument to be made that Wondell is the best receiver in this game.
76:56So, uh, I would still take Tate. I think there's more upside yet to score a touchdown.
77:02They're probably not going to be many touchdown opportunities just based on how cam Ward struggles.
77:07So I don't think it's a slam dunk for Carnell Tate.
77:10All right. Tennessee, by the way, if you look at Josh Downs, Tennessee is allowed and Keenan Allen, they've allowed 60 or
77:17more yards to six wide receivers in five games.
77:20So that's not bad. Take that from Josh Downs.
77:22Let's see if we have any, um, Oh my gosh, we have a lot of Adam versus Dan potential competition.
77:29I'll read those at the end of the show, but, uh, Tate or AJ Brown, if he plays.
77:34Brown. Hmm. I'll probably update Pollard, Kendrick born or, or, uh, Dylan Sampson.
77:38Pollard. Uh, stuff between Pollard and born. I'd probably go Pollard.
77:42Would you start? Let's see, looking for this game here.
77:45Keenan Allen, Jalen Waddle, Jeremy Bernard, who sits, uh, Allen.
77:48Yep. Um, Adam is way better at everything than Dan.
77:51Thank you very much. Tate or Waddle. Did we just do that one?
77:55Tate. Tate. Waddle, Keenan Allen or Godwin. We're going to go with, oh yeah.
78:00So Waddle, Keenan Allen or Godwin. Waddle, right? Yep.
78:02Yep. And Pollard or Bill? Pollard. Downs or Abuka?
78:05Downs. All right. Let's go. I think the one thing just to keep an eye on with, um, with both downs and
78:12Keenan Allen, like, you know, downs two very solid games.
78:15The first two without, or the game where Al Pierce got hurt.
78:19And then the next game afterwards. And then two disappointing ones last week.
78:23Is it because he can't handle being the one?
78:26We'll see. Keenan Allen, two games without Alec Pierce.
78:29He missed one. Nine targets in both those games.
78:32Um, all right. Buffalo and Las Vegas. Let's go.
78:34Can we do five minutes? Five minutes for the last two games.
78:38I think we can do it. Yep. Start Allen.
78:41Start Cook. Uh, starters at Kincaid. So he's behind the, the, the streaming guys from me this week behind strange, behind fire move behind Higby.
78:49I do think there is reason to go back to him.
78:52You did get a lot of questions for Joe Brady this week about why Kincaid's usage has been so poor.
78:58This is from the bills media. And he talked about got to do better job getting him more involved.
79:04So you could get this squeaky wheel game here.
79:07The Raiders think against that. And so there is an opportunity here to, to hope for a bounce back, but I would,
79:14I would, the way that I would approach it is if I have Kincaid and I picked up one of these guys,
79:21I would start the other player and just keep Kincaid on the bench with the hope that this is the, you know,
79:28get back to getting back on track. I wonder if he might be better if DJ Moore's back.
79:33Like they just don't have anybody else that defense, like Dalton Kincaid, your biggest concern in the passing game.
79:39If there's no DJ Moore, it felt like the Rams game was let's not take chances with this receiving core against this defense.
79:46Like that's just the, the, the way it felt.
79:49Yeah. And so conservative for Josh Allen, he ran for over a hundred yards.
79:54Like I know he's got that in his bag, but I can't imagine that's what Joe Brady and Joe Josh Allen want
80:01to do on a week to week basis. So yeah, if DJ Moore plays, I'll start him.
80:06Jamie, if DJ Moore doesn't play and then I'll talk, we'll talk about the Raiders with Heath, but if DJ Moore doesn't
80:13play, are you going to Keon Coleman to Shakir or just avoiding or what?
80:17I would start Keon Coleman in three receiver leagues.
80:20I don't think he can make a case for either of the two guys to be started in two receiver leagues, but
80:27again, four teams on a bye with a lot of big name time receivers missing and a lot of injuries at the position he had.
80:35Uh, I think it was like, I don't know, 30 yards worth of receptions taken away from penalty.
80:40So not a huge game, but you tack that on with the touchdown and maybe another catch or two.
80:46And then you're talking about 12 to 15 PPR points.
80:49So this is a much easier matchup. I mean, again, we just talked about what the Patriots did three touchdowns combined from Kyle Williams and Demario Douglas.
80:58So Keon Coleman's got an opportunity here. You kind of got a little lucky with the, uh, where he's got unlucky with
81:05the tackle, but, uh, lucky with the, uh, Khalil Shakir play at the end of the game, three for 80.
81:11You know, you take that away. It's a, it's a pretty miserable performance, but he's capable of more as well.
81:17So I think this is a better throwing game for Buffalo than what we saw last week.
81:22And that should lend to the, the past catchers, the three main ones, at least if DJ Moore is not there of
81:29Kincaid Coleman and Shakir being more involved. So not, not anything with a certainty, you know, I picked up Coleman in a
81:36few leagues where I need to start him in, in three or two.
81:40Heath, let's talk about the Raiders and Ashton Gentry real quick.
81:44So Gentry, you're starting Ashton. Well, I mean, yeah, you could be, but he's been pretty brutal and you know that in
81:50full PPR, he really hasn't been that bad, but he hasn't been great.
81:55I think he's RB 12. All right. So I was going to say like, you like the Steelers receivers.
82:00You'd like Carnell Tate is like kind of number two.
82:04You're starting Ashton Gentry over them. All right. Ramondre or Gentry?
82:07Gentry for me. Ramondre for me. It will be Gentry if, if Anderson plays.
82:11Raylan Allen or Gentry? Gentry. Gentry. I'm doing it right now.
82:15I am dropping Aaron Rogers for Kirk cousins in one league.
82:18I'm going to start Rogers over cousins in the other league.
82:22I'm going to split it. I'm going to split it.
82:25There you go. All right. You guys are cousins right around 12th.
82:29I see the appeal. Every quarterback beats up on the bills.
82:32Their past defense isn't good. They score a lot of points.
82:35They make you throw. I am a little nervous about the pressure rate because the bills can get pressure on the quarterback.
82:42The Raiders offensive line has not been very good the last two weeks.
82:46Kirk cousins even talked about that post game said that Patriots got a lot of pressure on him and that certainly affected him.
82:54Um, but every quarterback's thrown at least 34 times against the bills.
82:57And not only that, Kirk cousins, he scored the most fantasy points of any quarterback against the chargers this year, by far
83:04the most fantasy points of any quarterback against the chiefs this year, by far the most fantasy points of any quarterback against the saints this year, by far.
83:13And the saints have also faced Jared golf and they face Lamar Jackson granted without safe flowers.
83:18So cousins has had a good season struggle last week.
83:21Let's bounce back. Kirk cousins, start Brock Bowers, Michael mayor or Dalton Kincaid.
83:25Kincaid. Kincaid. And Trey Tucker is like a dart throw.
83:29Who's the best wide receiver in this game. If DJ Moore does not play.
83:33Coleman. It'd be Tucker for me, but they're all the same flex is, uh, who, and where would you rank DJ more if he does play?
83:41Um, gets in a full practice, probably around 20.
83:44Partial practice, probably closer to 28. Chargers are at the chiefs.
83:47I would guess at this point though, they're probably going to sit him.
83:51They have their buy next week. So the fact that he didn't even go through a walkthrough is not encouraging.
83:58Heath, would you start any chargers? Um, if lad gets back and is healthy, then yes.
84:03Are we, uh, man, McLaughlin over a chargers running back Hampton?
84:06I would, I'm still going to start Hampton over McLaughlin.
84:09How about Damien Pierce? If Barkley's out Pierce, for sure.
84:12You saw the report that if they fire McDaniel, who that coordinator is going to be, right?
84:18Oh, is it case? Yeah. No, that'd be good.
84:20Yeah. McConkie. You think he'll be a top 24 receiver if he plays?
84:24If he gets a full practice, the chiefs allow the fewest fantasy points to wide receivers right now.
84:30They have not faced good competition though, but they did great against waddle.
84:34Um, that's pretty much, that's pretty much it. Uh, if McConkie's out, who is the sleeper?
84:39If anyone, yeah, Johnston, Johnston, Johnston plays. Yeah. I mean, I think their next best receiver is Marcus Valdez.
84:45Can we? Yep. Charlie Kohler. Or revenge game. This is, this is a disaster.
84:49It really is. Seventh for Jamie, fourth for Dave, 10th for Heath.
84:53Why the confidence in my homes, Jamie? Well, this is with rice playing.
84:57So if rice is out, then he'll drop, you know, probably closer to, uh, to 12 and I might start Kirk cousins
85:04over him, but I would still start him. Um, his history, recent history versus long-term history coming off by weeks is much different.
85:11So he does have a very good average in his career coming off by weeks, but the last couple of seasons is not as good as you expect.
85:20Um, I think this is a game where my homes is probably going to try and, you know, be theatrical, uh, because
85:27this is the game that he tore his ACL.
85:30So just knowing the player and how he gets motivated, um, would not be surprised if there's a moment or two where he's flexing in the end zone.
85:38Um, so I, I think there's still opportunities here.
85:41And again, we've seen very different versions of my home so far this season, couple of games where he's run more than I expected.
85:49Um, to me, this feels like a Kelsey game with or without rice.
85:53So I think Kelsey is going to have a strong performance and do well.
85:57Uh, and then I, I have interest in Xavier worthy.
86:00If there is no rushy rice, he's gotten two games.
86:03He's had two games this year with seven targets.
86:06He's been double digit PPR in both of them, not huge performances when he scored a touchdown.
86:12So you're looking at no Thornton that gives him a bump.
86:15If there's no rice, I think he's a borderline top 24.
86:18All right. Kelsey is top eight for everybody. Chargers allowed the ninth fewest fantasy points to tight ends.
86:24They've basically been really good other than against Trey McBride.
86:27I don't know what the hell is going on with Travis Kelsey.
86:31He's got an 8.7% and 14.8% target share. The last two games, one of them was basically entirely without Rishi rice.
86:37So I don't know. It's, it's not encouraging after an encouraging start to the season, but I think that's going to be Kelsey.
86:45I think it's going to be pretty up and down this year and chiefs DST.
86:49Jamie loves them. Heath does not. Heath is like fine with them.
86:53Uh, I picked them up in a league. They've been great against Denver and Miami, terrible against the Colts and the Raiders.
87:00So good matchup certainly for them. and, uh, let's see if I have any questions here for this game.
87:06Uh, we've got Hampton or Damien Pierce. I think I asked that right.
87:10Pierce. I don't think you have a Pierce ladder downs.
87:13It'd be loud. If he plays. Yep. Kendra Miller or Hampton.
87:17Uh, I think I have them back to back right now with Hampton one spot ahead.
87:21So Camara's injury situation will determine if that changes.
87:24Yep. Bernard, Jeremy Bernard or lad McConkey. Be lad if he plays.
87:28Yep. Lad or Valey rest of season. Oh God.
87:31Lad. Lad. Uh, lad. Yeah. I mean, you got Jordan Tyson coming at some point, right?
87:36So. Yep. Hopefully. All right. That's pretty much it.
87:39That's pretty much it. Thank you all for watching and listening to fantasy football today.
87:43Tomorrow. We've got the NFC home games and we also have a beat the waiver wire express episode coming up later today.
87:50Dan and Adam in a rap battle. Dan and Adam in the wonder lick singing.
87:55Oh, that's a good one. That's what we're doing.
87:58Which one? The wonder lick. Yeah. The wonder. Okay.
88:01Uh, shadowing each other on 10 routes, Doritos eating competition.
88:04This one, I think we're not doing. I think we should, we should start to, I mean, is there any reason why
88:11we can't just start taking donations now for next year?
88:14No, I don't think. I mean, I think we should just do like a weekly mailbag challenge.
88:19Like we donate, we designate 10 minutes, every mailbag to wonder lick IQ test, Dorito eating contest.
88:24Like this is easy. I like this one a lot.
88:27Some sort of cooking competition and Jamie, Dave and Heath are the judges.
88:31If you think for a second, I'm eating anything that you or Dan make, you're crazy.
88:36We could be, make at least one thing that you'd like.
88:40Like. Yes. Try. No. Trust. No chance. Yeah. No way.
88:43No, I think Dan can actually cook. I think he'd beat me in that.
88:47All right. We'll talk to you tomorrow, everybody. Have a good one.
88:51Dan can cook ordering an Italian sandwich somewhere. What'd you say?
88:55Dan can cook by ordering an Italian sandwich somewhere.
88:57And claim he invented it. All right. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
89:01See ya. Not podcasts. See ya.
