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2:02What a play! It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
2:04Off to the races, and he stays on his feet.
2:07Here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:10And yes! Really excited for today's show. Adam Azer here with Jamie Eisenberg.
2:13And the cockiest man on the face of the earth, Dan Schneier.
2:17Because it's six days until tennis, and that means Dan becomes a total jerk.
2:21So welcome to the show, Jerkface Dan. Listen, Adam, I was thinking about it.
2:25This is the last mailbag before the match. And I was thinking about it a little bit.
2:30Just the last time we played, I have no respect for your game.
2:33I really don't. I was thinking about how you played, your serve, your weak backhands that barely make it to midcourt.
2:39Real big talking about a serve. You couldn't get your serve in?
2:43Well, what ended up happening was you played me on my worst day of tennis in probably the last four years.
2:49And still lost the practice match six to four.
2:51Which is really a sign of things to come.
2:54Six to four! But I just have no respect of what you put out there on the court.
2:59Everything you hit was to midcourt. You put so little pace.
3:02You asked me, I played so bad. And I was like, I can't play well.
3:06When my opponent generates no pace with the way that you generate, you somehow regressed from a pace standpoint.
3:11You're weaker. You can't get your shots past midcourt.
3:14And I thought about it and I was like, I know this guy thinks he can win this year.
3:19Because he got four games in the practice set.
3:22And he got four games in the second set of last year.
3:25Even though we're 24 to six overall on our four sets.
3:28I have so little respect for your game that I'm willing to make some wagers today.
3:33And these are wagers that I'll actually do. Not like you're, I'll put three lines in my head, but my wife has
3:3917 important phone calls and I can never find time to do it.
3:43Or the recent Heath bet that we all know you're not going to go through with.
3:47Because I put a poll out there on Twitter.
3:50And I asked the people, do you think Adam will go through?
3:53He got a way out of it. He already found a way out of it.
3:58No, no, no. No. Heath had a flaw in his bet.
4:01So who technically found that? Adam's lawyer? Like what happened?
4:04No, I saw somebody posted on Twitter on X.
4:06I apologize for not referencing who it was. But the Giants could be eliminated week two, right?
4:11In theory? Well, not in theory, but by October, right?
4:14Maybe. The bet is Devante Smith versus A Flowers for the season.
4:17So even if the Giants are eliminated from playoff contentions, which is what Keith said, we don't know the winner of the bet until week 18.
4:24Right. So Adam may get week 18 through the draft of beer, which is still awful.
4:29But here's the thing. And you can't touch it, by the way.
4:32No trimming it. What I don't understand is like, I've got an important event that I have to take a lot of pictures for.
4:39I have to look good. They're going to last forever.
4:42My niece's bat mitzvah. I don't want to look like a loser with this stupid beard.
4:46Why can't? That's in January. How do you know you won't look better with a grown-out beard?
4:51Hold on. Hold on. Why can't I just do it after January?
4:55From the day after that event until the Giants pick in late April in the NFL draft, there's going to be plenty
5:01of time for me to grow a stupid, itchy, ugly, hideous, horrible beard.
5:05I don't need to do it from December on.
5:07It's just stupid. There is no reason why I can't lose that bet, pay up that part of it, but still look good for a family function.
5:15You know what? Because I think that it really says, the chat really sums it up because you made the bet.
5:21You made the bet as is, Adam. No, I didn't.
5:24You want to talk about I'm cocky. You were cocky when you made that bet, and now the rooster come.
5:29I don't even know what the term is, but you have to come through with this thing.
5:34Fine. You know what? No. And I still want to see the three lines too, by the way.
5:39That's not over. I already, I am so sick of this three lines crap.
5:43What is wrong with everyone? I see it in the stupid chat.
5:46I hear from stupid ass Dan. Shut up. Whoa.
5:49Will you stop? I already shaved the three lines.
5:52Enough with the damn three lines. For the last freaking time, I already shaved them.
5:56I shaved them like two years ago. Stop bringing it up.
5:59I already did. This really feels like a situation where if the bear, you know what's in the woods, it'd actually happen
6:05if no one was there to hear it. I did it.
6:08He showed everyone. He did do it. It happened.
6:11All right. He did do it. I think if I were Heath, I would let you go to the family function without the beard.
6:18No. No. I'll talk to Heath. That's unacceptable. But here's the thing.
6:21You have to go with the bad beard to the family function.
6:24No, I'm not doing that. That's part of the bad.
6:27And listen. When does the family function? I don't know.
6:30Sometime in January. I don't know. It's disrespectful to my family.
6:33No, you need to know the date because the date matters.
6:36I'll find out the date. But it's disrespectful. When does week 18 end?
6:40Look, we got to get to the show here.
6:42We got to get to the show. But more importantly, we got to get to this.
6:47Donate to Draftathon. Help our cause with St. Jude.
6:50And come up with ways for this bet to evolve.
6:52Me and Adam. Tennis match next week. I am so disgusted that he thinks he can beat me.
6:57Given how poor his game is. No backhand. Can't lob a backhand over me when I'm at the net.
7:03Every shot is so weak from him. I can't generate pace because he can't generate pace.
7:07And so I don't even care what the listener said last year.
7:11Oh, Dan, you're hitting so soft. I don't care.
7:13My strategy is yours. I don't care how it looks.
7:16I'm just going to win every point, every game as much as I can.
7:20So here's what I want from the listeners to raise money for St.
7:24Jude. I am willing to bet two things. You can set the line today in the chat.
7:29I'm going to let you set the line. The total score is the first year I won 6-0-6-2.
7:34The second year I won 6-0-6-4. In that order, in those sets, I'm a worst second set player.
7:39I'm in disgusting shape. The worst shape of my literal life.
7:42I've had an amazing summer. Great social events. And I've ate and drank like an idiot.
7:46Now, with that said, I am so disgusted with his game.
7:49That the bets I am going to allow. I want you to set the line.
7:54We'll bet that. That one's easy. I'll obviously beat the line.
7:57He stinks at tennis. But I also want to say this.
8:00What's the bet? Just what's the bet? No stipulations.
8:02Two bets. One, that Adam will not win the match.
8:05No spread. Just will not win the match. And two, that Adam will not win a set in this match.
8:11And will never beat me in a set. Yeah.
8:14Two things. I think, you know, what's interesting, Dan, is that at no point...
8:17We've played three matches. At no point... We've played two matches.
8:21We've played three matches. We've played the practice match.
8:23No, we've played a practice set. That's not a match.
8:26Okay, we've played a... Fine. We've played five sets.
8:29At no point have I ever led in games.
8:31So that's... I would love to get off to 1-0 start.
8:34But the other thing is, I'm not going to talk that much trash because I've seen you.
8:39I've seen the way you... Me, you, Scott, Fish.
8:42We go out. We have a cheesesteak, right? And you're the only slob who ate the whole thing.
8:47Jesus. The rest of us grown men can pace ourselves.
8:49You're overweight. We're playing... Whoa! We're playing at 4 o'clock p.m.
8:53in August in South Florida. You... I was born in the heat.
8:56You merely adopted it. Okay? You are going to be...
8:59You're going to be out of shape not by the third set, not by the third game.
9:04You're going to be out of shape by the third point.
9:07You're going to be gassed. You might die. So...
9:09Have you ever... I... You will not be able to keep up with me.
9:13You better win that first set quickly because by the second set, you're not going to be able to run.
9:19And that's it. Let's move on to the show.
9:21Okay. All right. We have some good stuff for you today.
9:25Wow. What epic rants. Oh, shave the three lines here.
9:27Like, this... Perpetuating this myth. They're ridiculous. Anyway, we got a great show today.
9:31We have some draft... I mean, that's not a myth.
9:34You didn't do it when you were supposed to do it.
9:37But I did it. But you didn't do it when you were supposed to.
9:41But I did it. And you made up a fake excuse that nobody ever bought at the time.
9:46You asked my wife in person. She told you it was actually exactly what happened.
9:51Yeah, because you told her to tell me that.
9:53You literally, like, set her up. I know how you do things.
9:56Yeah, that's right. Exactly. All right. Draftathon questions. Thank you for your donations there.
10:00Emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. I haven't really gotten a lot of fantasy cop submissions.
10:04So if you have any league disputes, please email us.
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10:17But here's some questions. I'll do it right now.
10:19Stop. Go ahead. No, no. Let's get to the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
10:23Whoever it is gets a spot in the left over.
10:26Yeah. He says, call me crazy. But is Malik Willis about to become everything we hoped and dreamed Anthony Richardson would be?
10:32He has the same rushing upside as Richardson. But we've actually seen Malik be a competent passer in the league.
10:38If so, Malik Willis is being slept on and is a steal in the later rounds, especially in four-point-per-passing touchdown leagues.
10:44He's essentially what we did with Justin Fields last preseason.
10:47But because the Justin Fields thing blew up in our face as much as it did, the ADP just has not moved on Malik Willis.
10:54I think it's probably better to have him somewhere in between, though, where he's at now and where Justin Fields was at.
11:00Which, by the way, was steamed up for QB8, QB9, QB10 range before last drafts.
11:04And in reality, as I look to it in my head, I'm like, isn't there a much better chance that Willis does end up keeping the starting job?
11:12Now, Quinn Ewers did not embarrass himself last year.
11:15He actually looked kind of decent, I thought, throwing the football last year.
11:18But the Fields thing was a two-year kind of whatever deal with the Jets.
11:22The Willis thing, was it a three-year deal, I believe?
11:25It looks almost like they kind of believe he could potentially be their guy if they hit on him.
11:30So I feel like his ADP is still just not where it should be.
11:34I don't know if I'm ready to take the leap.
11:37I guess you could make the case like, you know, Fields had Garrett Wilson.
11:41Maybe a better O-line, though I think that's debatable.
11:44I kind of like the Dolphins' O-line, to be honest.
11:46And they drafted another first-round pick out of Bama this year.
11:50Probably a better run blocker than pass blocker, but a good player overall.
11:53I think he's probably underrated. And Willis is probably more upside in that QB2 range than anyone but Kyler.
11:59So the last part, I think, is the thing that matters most here.
12:02So when you have your quarterback strategy, whatever that is for you.
12:06We saw a draft that we just did, right?
12:08Somebody ended up with their last two picks or two of the last three picks.
12:12They took Jared Goff and Jackson Dart. Dave took Malik Willis late after drafting Jalen Hurts.
12:17There's quarterbacks that are going to have a good floor that are number two quarterbacks.
12:21Jared Goff. Patrick Mahomes is in that range now.
12:24Brock Purdy, I think, has a good floor. Bo Nix has a good floor.
12:28Then you have this other group of quarterbacks. Dan mentioned two.
12:31Kyler Murray, Malik Willis. Throw Tyler Shuck in there also because his ceiling, I think, is probably a little bit higher if
12:37he hits than some of these other guys. If you like your quarterback and you're pretty solid and you're just taking another
12:43quarterback because you have empty roster spots or don't love anything else or looking maybe as a trade ship, those are the type of guys that you're taking.
12:51If you wait on the position, I would like to take one of each.
12:55I would like to take a Goff and a Dart, a Goff and a Kyler, a Goff and Malik Willis.
13:01I think those are guys that could be league winners.
13:04But if they fail, they're going to be awful.
13:06So Anthony Richardson, speaking of which, you saw the full Anthony Richardson fantasy experience last night.
13:11He looked awful, but he got you 11.5 points and a half.
13:14Like that's just what he does. Yeah. Dan, we got a comment here.
13:18Dan is so intense. Wonder how he orders a complicated sandwich at the deli.
13:22I just did order a complicated one yesterday. I had broccoli rabe, hot fryer peppers, provolone.
13:26But you know what? It's different at the deli because I don't have someone like Adam who thinks he can actually beat
13:33me, even though everything says in his brain that he can't.
13:36But you know what? I respect your confidence level.
13:38What I don't respect. How about that confidence? I'll do a slob.
13:42How about that confidence? He's calling. Yeah. The slob call out, despite it being true.
13:46I mean, it's really disgusting where I'm at right now.
13:49I'm at 184. I was at 168 last summer, but I've been eating and drinking at a good social summer.
13:54It is what it is. I'm going to roll into this.
13:57Here's the thing. Sabalenka, is she in amazing shape?
14:00No, she beats the ball up and she beats her opponents.
14:03When you have a weak opponent like Adam, who just puts nothing, the lack of pace that you put on a tennis ball.
14:10Have you mentioned that yet? I haven't heard about the lack of pace on this.
14:14The thing is, you actually had some pace on your forehand last year and you've regressed in some way.
14:19It's insane. Okay. Next email is from Big Nasty.
14:22He says, I want to know what the biggest difference between 12 team and 14 team leagues is for you guys.
14:28I'm in a league with all my good friends from college and we recently just added two more of our friends to make it a 14 team league.
14:36So, uh, what's the biggest difference, Jamie, between 12 team and 14 team league?
14:40Um, two more managers. Uh, I think the thing that you got to look at is, um, can you get away with waiting on quarterback?
14:47I think you can, cause it's so deep. I think you want to probably depending on the scoring system, figure out what
14:53your flex is going to be, because I think that matters if you're going to lean heavily toward receiver running back.
14:59Um, the, uh, the decision, you know, comes in, I think where you pick as well, you know, so we know there's
15:05four receivers going in the first round. You know, you're going to still get probably some good value in the second round.
15:11I think let the second round dictate your strategy.
15:14That probably works for 12 team leagues too. Um, but you know, it, it shouldn't really change your, your, your approach too
15:20much, but I think really just quarterback tight end.
15:23That's really the two positions that you should focus on.
15:25I say it a lot, but in a 14 team league, I really hate coming out of a draft with, with bad running back depth.
15:32I, you can't have everything you want, but you know, you can plug in a wide receiver from the waiver wire that
15:39could get you, you know, eight to 12 PPR points and be your representative.
15:43Sometimes you look at the waiver wire in a 14 team league at running back and it's just absolute garbage.
15:48So I'd like to have at least three guys that I can trust, uh, on a weekly basis if possible.
15:54It's not that hard to do. I mean, it just means it is 14, but.
15:58So if you're, if you're saying you want three guys, you could trust and let's, how do we do podcast league two receivers in a flex?
16:06Yeah. I'd say like three top 30 guys. So you probably need to take three running backs for your first four picks.
16:12No, I don't think so. Cause like Jalen Warren could be my third guy.
16:16I'd be fine with that. You know, or someone in that range.
16:19Um, it doesn't have to be three top 20 guys.
16:22Just, I don't want to look at my, we had a team that drafted today that, that started Chase Brown, Saquon Barkley,
16:28and their third running back was Tyron Tracy Jr.
16:31That's not going to be me in a four.
16:33So I guess let's look at it differently. So you, you have pick five.
16:37Five, you're starting receiver, right? Yeah. Are you taking McCaffrey there?
16:40No receiver. Okay. So you're starting receiver. So now you get to round two and you're probably looking at Jeremiah Love as your best running back.
16:48Yeah. I'll probably take a receiver there. I don't have to, I don't have to be a lead at running back.
16:54I'm just saying I want at least three running.
16:56Oh, you don't. I got you. Yeah. Yeah. At least three running.
17:00You'd be fine with a scataboo Pollard Jalen Warren trio.
17:02I think I'd prefer it to be something like scataboo Irving Jalen Warren, but yeah.
17:07Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I would rather take the best player than as opposed to just pigeonholing myself to taking those running.
17:13Like always, always, I guess my point was like running back dries up pretty quickly.
17:1714 team league waiver wire really sucks at running back.
17:20Whereas you're, you're going to have these guys that are going to get maybe five targets or something like that could get
17:26four catches and you know, at wide receiver. Um, all right.
17:29We got to take a break. When we come back, let's take a look at FFT bingo and read your emails at fantasy football at cbsi.com.
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20:26Let's take a look. Share my screen here. So you can select the hosts.
20:30I got Adam, Jamie, and Dave here. Let's generate the grid.
20:33All right. Adam gets razzed for Acer static. Eddie mentioned that tight end is deep this year.
20:38A poll is consulted. Jamie starts to save it with again.
20:41A combine stat is mentioned. Jamie curses. Let's hope we're not checking that one off.
20:45You already did check that one off yourself. I said the A word.
20:49Yeah. Is that not considered a curse in your book?
20:51Adam, any mention of the green zone? Dan says unbelievable.
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20:57What the hell is a trailing preposition? Three guys supposed to be journalists.
21:01None of us know the answer. Holy shit. That was good.
21:04Oh, you son of a... Sorry. I cursed again.
21:07All right. Let's see. We got to cross that.
21:09All right. Jamie curses. All right. We'll check. We'll consult back with the bingo card.
21:14You have to start the statement with again. Not just saying.
21:17Again, that was great. Yeah. But we'll see if it comes up naturally.
21:20I'll zoom in on it. You know, I'll zoom in on it right now.
21:24So when we go back to it, we can...
21:27Where's the damn zoom? Once I figure out how to zoom.
21:30There we go. We zoomed. All right. Let's get to the questions here.
21:34Thank you, Jamie. I'll see you guys. I'll see you guys.
21:37What is it? Who's? Mel Bailey. Can I read it or no?
21:40I like it, but the only thing he missed was to say Dave interrupting Adam every 48 seconds.
21:45Well, I didn't put Dave under the bingo card.
21:48Like, I'm sure if I had added... Let's see what another combination is.
21:51Click mailbag. Click mailbag for miscellaneous. That's important. They said.
21:54All right. Now I have to unzoom. This is awesome.
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22:06FFT open plug. We're good. It's amazing. Adam tries to wriggle out of the beard bet.
22:11Yep. Yep. Yep. Well said. He knew it right away.
22:14FFT open plug. Yep. Dan talks about golf. That's going to happen.
22:17He did. I thought I was off here. Adam and Dan's tennis rivalry is mentioned.
22:21Oh, it was more than mentioned. FFT open plug.
22:24I never thought I'd be fat shamed on today's show.
22:27All right. Let's get to the questions here from.
22:29Never thought I'd be fat shamed on a show, but order broccoli robbed with provolone at a sub shop.
22:35Oh, there was more on that chicken cutlet, prosciutto, fried prosciutto bread.
22:38It was great. Did you eat the whole thing?
22:41I ate the whole thing. I didn't know it was faux pas to eat a whole sandwich.
22:45According to Adam, oh, the men. He said the men, the mature men eat a half a sandwich.
22:51It was me, Scott Fish, and Joe Ryan. We're grownups.
22:53We look into the food. We say we don't have to eat the entire thing here.
22:58It's a very heavy sandwich. Very mature. Oh, by the way, Scott wanted me to mention that you are unaware that you
23:04can request a refrigerator for your room. Wait, what?
23:07You can request a refrigerator for your room if it's not there.
23:10Oh, we had a refrigerator. Yeah. That's the other thing.
23:13Could have just brought the sub home and put it in the damn refrigerator.
23:17I'm sorry. A microwave. A microwave. A microwave. Oh, a microwave.
23:20Yes. All right, this is from Noah. Dear Tony, Steve, Peter, and Bruce.
23:24Game of Thrones, Dan? What was it? Tony what?
23:26Tony, Steve, Peter, and Bruce. Nah. Don't have it.
23:29Don't have it. Adam knows this. I'm impressed. Yeah, it's all the Avengers, right?
23:33Yeah, but you had to look it up. No, I didn't.
23:36That's easy. He does a lot of that look it up cheating that people don't know about.
23:41He's one of the biggest offenders, I would say, in that regard.
23:44You know, this drives me crazy. You make up so many things about me.
23:48What are you talking about? I don't do that.
23:50When I look it up, I tell you. Jamie, what are your thoughts on that?
23:55With wide receiver coming off a down year, so many receivers falling in the blob of boom or bust wide receiver threes,
24:01I'm curious how predictive weekly matchups are to when the wide receiver booms.
24:05In other words, are wide receiver threes more likely to boom when facing a bottom 10 pass defense?
24:10I'm leaning towards a heavy running back build this year, so I'm wondering how close to wide receiver two production I can
24:16get out of playing matchups with three or four boom bust wide receivers in the mid to late rounds?
24:21Good question. Obviously, it matters. Yeah. It comes down to, you know, I think the pass offenses that you're talking about.
24:27So like a guy like Jameson Williams, for example, we expect the Lions to be pass heavy, and that should benefit him.
24:33I think Christian Watson's not going to be in a pass heavy offense, but his role is solidified, you know, so he's going to get those chances.
24:41You know, so it's probably 50-50 on what you're talking about here, matchups versus player versus offense.
24:46You know, that's not two categories, but you get the point.
24:49Like, you know, we're looking at, you know, who the player is and I think what the opportunities are for them.
24:55So, you know, comparing those type of guys to, let's say a Josh Downs or, you know, Wandel Robinson, where they're going to get guaranteed targets.
25:02They may not be great week to week, but you know that they're going to get opportunities.
25:07I have a different take on this. I think it's harder to do than ever.
25:11Last year, we saw the fall off to only eight teams through average 250 yards passing or more.
25:16It was down from nine the year before. It was 17 just five years ago.
25:21And as teams are moving more towards these heavier personnel groups to try to combat the two high looks with split safety
25:27looks, I think the ones you're going to see this being possible for are the ones that are running a lot of
25:3312 personnel, two tight ends on the field, two receivers with the fine number two that isn't high on ADP based on
25:39that quarterback situation, whatever it may be. Someone maybe like a Jalen Coker is someone that interests me as far as floor goes.
25:46Players like they just got extended, by the way, on a contract.
25:49The players like in the Packers situation, a little less interested in because any of these teams with like gold and Watson
25:55and read expected to be on the field for a lot of snaps.
25:59That's where I'm not so sure where the target distribution is get is, is going to.
26:04And I'm not so sure where the overall total passing production is going to given how run heavy they've been.
26:09I think they were number one rush over expectation team in the entire NFL last year, by far the Packers.
26:15And it's kind of been the case for the floor, just use them an example.
26:19So I don't, that's it's, it's very interesting as teams are going away from the pass.
26:24We have these first two, three, uh, first round one, round two, round three.
26:28It's like all the values are running back. I kind of want to start running back, running back.
26:33But it's also like, if you don't get one of these few receivers who are actually getting the volume week to week,
26:39you're kind of stuck at receiver or you're just taking gambles.
26:42Like I like Jamison Williams. I'm with you on the Jamie and their schedule is easy.
26:47And they're in the domes. They're going to be a good passing team.
26:50But I think we both would agree that Jamison Williams, his total production will probably be like wide receiver 12, whatever.
26:56But he's going to have like a week to week inconsistency as he's kind of always had.
27:01That's the, that's the bill that this manager is going for, you know, the, the volatility.
27:06So you'll have blow up weeks. And obviously if he's going running back heavy or she's going running back heavy, then you're
27:12running backs left to carry you tight end may have to carry your quarterback, et cetera.
27:16And then the weeks where your wide receivers go off or one or two of them go off, you're going to probably obliterate the field.
27:23The other part of it is going to have some of those weeks where you're inconsistent.
27:28And just real quick on the topic, Dan, you're going to love this.
27:32Pete Prisco told me yesterday he's doing, it's either a five part series or he has five reasons why passing games have just gone in the toilet.
27:39And so he has gone on part of his training camp tour.
27:43He talked to LaFleur about this, Matt LaFleur about this, Joe Brady about this, Todd Monken about this, Liam Cohen about this.
27:49He said he spent an hour, Liam Cohen in his offense, just going over stuff.
27:53And for Pete who's covered the NFL over 30 plus years, he said, Cohen was showing him stuff that defenses are doing
27:59right now that, you know, offenses aren't adjusting to.
28:02He said that Cohen and Sean McVay had a conversation, like, are we just doing too much at times?
28:07Like to try and throw things off. It was fascinating to hear Pete's story about this.
28:12I can't wait to read what Pete's going to write about it.
28:15But just, you know, how passing games have sucked.
28:18And, you know, knowing Pete, I don't know, you know, you guys do a little bit.
28:22He said, I've told all these coaches, you guys got to stop being afraid.
28:26And, you know, like they get, they get, they get defensive about it.
28:30I'm not the one that's afraid. And he said, he said, yes, you are.
28:34You know, you think running the ball is going to be successful.
28:37He told, he told, he told me, he said, I told Joe Brady when James Cook runs the ball, the defense wins
28:43because you're taking the ball out of Josh Allen's hands.
28:46You know? So like, that's how aggressive he's being with his, his take on this, that passing game has been absolutely abysmal.
28:53But it's interesting. So wait, wait, question. Yeah, maybe.
28:55How long do you think this kind of downward trend, you, this is a more than one season issue with passing games, right?
29:02You're saying? The last two seasons have been eight and then nine the year before in 2024, as far as 250 plus
29:08passing average per game, which is not even a lot.
29:11But I'll just bring up that 2024 included in this, right?
29:14As like a down passing season. It was a perfectly fine year for wide receivers.
29:18We had 29 wide receivers that year, average 14 or more points.
29:21It's not like last year. Yeah. Yeah. Last year we had 16.
29:25So last year was really bad. The year before that was not.
29:28The year before that was a normal wide receiver year.
29:31I'm not sure. Well, that is also just because we have the change.
29:35Like it's like the passing comes down because of the scheme, right?
29:38Because it's like teams are obviously like evolving to what they see on defense to high cover to cover through cover six.
29:44But then it's like last year was more of the 12 personnel.
29:48So it's actually the personnel is changing, right? Because there was still a lot of 11 personnel in 2024.
29:53And now we're moving toward teams drafting. What do we have?
29:56More tight ends drafted in this draft class than any class since like 2002 or something like that.
30:01So now teams are going to be using fewer receivers in general on the field.
30:06Yeah, maybe. All right. It's interesting. And I have had that thought.
30:09Like if you want to, if you want to lead wide receiver, you better get one early, but also the historic trends
30:15are that wide receivers, including last year, easier to find the best easier to find like must start guys later in drafts
30:21than at running back, at least over a full season.
30:24A guy like Chris Alave, a guy like Zay Flowers last year.
30:28Whereas you look at the top six running backs each of the last two seasons.
30:32So that's 12 running backs that have finished top six, 11 of them.
30:35Over the last two seasons have been drafted in the first two rounds compared to seven of the top six wide receivers.
30:42Well, I do think that's a great stat. And we have also run really lucky with injuries at running back over the last year.
30:48Yeah, that's true. Over the last year. And I also make this point, just a counterpoint with wide receivers.
30:54I don't really think running backs are that much more injury prone than wide receivers, but with wide receivers, you also have
31:00to worry about quarterback injuries because they will affect our starting running back.
31:04Right. But I think they will affect starting wide receivers more.
31:07Let's go to our next question. And you've done a great job convincing me on that, by the way, with your data
31:13and just like everything you've talked about, about the running back receiver.
31:16Thank you for the olive branch. This one's from Jaron.
31:19If Daniel Jones plays 17 games, he ends as quarterback what, Jamie?
31:2317. Really? So this is a big debate I've had with Jacob all off season because we initially did compare to our
31:29rankings a couple of weeks gone beyond the box score.
31:32He decimated my rankings live on air. And Daniel Jones was one of the ones that I was much higher on than
31:38him, which is weird because I don't believe in him.
31:41But I don't I think everybody just assumes he's not going to run this year.
31:45Why though? Like he's completely healthy, has no limitations in camp.
31:48And he's never been a quarterback that, in my mind, at least, that doesn't run like scrambling is part of his game
31:54when you're not a great solution finder. And last year, he more than doubled the next quarterback in first read target percentage.
32:01He threw 8.8% to his first read. The next was like 4.9 or something like that.
32:05When he doesn't see it there and Steichen doesn't design that first read, which he did a great job of last year, Steichen.
32:12Kudos to him. It's going to be a little harder this year when teams have tape on what Steichen and Jones are all about.
32:18He's going to scramble and that's just going to bring up both his floor and his ceiling as a quarterback.
32:24If he plays all 17 games, I think he's going to shock people and he's going to be just outside or inside that QB1 range.
32:31I kind of really like him for super flex.
32:34So just a couple of things. I think he could do that.
32:37But again, as we see quarterbacks mature and get older and come off significant injuries, did I say again?
32:42You did. Yeah. It's not either. But this says FFT Dynasty podcast plug.
32:46I guarantee that was supposed to be a Beyond the Boxscore podcast plug because this is an Adam, Dan, Jamie bingo board.
32:52Yeah. And we just got that. So yeah. Yeah.
32:55This is awesome. I think what we're going to end up seeing is just the design runs are not there and the scrambling gets cut in half.
33:03Well, here's the... No, I got to bring this up.
33:05Design runs I'm with you on. He ran less than ever last year.
33:09Yeah. He was really good last year. You know, ended up as QB14 per game.
33:13Again, the first read was open. That's why. Literally.
33:16Yeah. We also have a pretty significant downgrade in the receiving core across the board.
33:20Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, Alec Pierce literally looks like he's walking with a limp in the video I saw.
33:25I don't know what we're doing with Pierce, but I don't know.
33:29I'm ranking him so low right now. Yeah. Same.
33:31All right. Here's the one from Aaron. He says, hey, Chase, Joe, and T.
33:35Dan? Browns. Chase, Joe, and T. Yeah. I mean, he gave it away.
33:39These are the Browns players. I would have got there if Jamie hadn't done it first.
33:44Which Browns? Oh, which Browns? T. Higgins, Chase Brown, and Joe Burrow.
33:47Those Browns. Dan doesn't realize I'm Joe Burrow. Oh, no.
33:50I mean, Bengals, Bengals, Bengals. Oh, man. You got me.
33:53The fat shaming has really put me off on this show.
33:56What did he call me, Jamie? A slob? Or what was the word he used?
34:00I said you were overweight. No, you did not.
34:03No, you call him a slob. I said you were overweight, and Jamie went, whoa.
34:07If I called you a slob, no, his reaction was to the visceral slob word that you used.
34:12You did use the word slob. Slob, among other things, might have been even worse.
34:16The chat, remind us what he said about me.
34:19This is a guy who met an FFT listener.
34:21I shouldn't even say this. He might get mad at this.
34:24Yeah, I think so. I don't know what you're going to say.
34:28I don't know what you're going to say, but I think I will get mad.
34:32You guys, this is the question from Aaron. I've heard contradictory statements on the podcast about the Bengals.
34:37Things like Burrow could throw 5,000 yards, and their improved defense will help Chase Brown.
34:41And you seem super high on T. Higgins. Other than touchdowns, what does T.
34:45Higgins do well? If the Bengals' D is better, is Jamar Chase really worth the third overall pick?
34:50I guess he's kind of saying we've been contradictory.
34:53Jamie, the Bengals, I guess give me a season outlook here for them.
34:575,000 yards is a big ask in today's offensive environment, but if there is a team that can get close to it,
35:03I think the Bengals would be on the top of the list.
35:06Clearly, we need to have a healthy Joe Burrow for the majority of the season.
35:10I think all four players, quarterback, two receivers, running back, can all be in the upper echelon of their respective positions.
35:16What does T. Higgins do well? Well, Dan likes to say this a lot.
35:20Touchdowns are hard to predict, but when there is a guy that can score touchdowns and has done it consistently, you kind of gravitate toward that.
35:28Well, he has 21 touchdowns in his last 27 games.
35:30Back-to-back seasons with 10-plus touchdowns, not playing full seasons in one of those.
35:34So, he's one of those guys I think that you could say 8-plus touchdowns is realistic, 10-plus touchdowns is on the table,
35:40and then you give him probably 1,000 yards to maybe 1,200 if he plays a full season and somewhere in the neighborhood of 75 catches.
35:47So, for me, that's a high-end number two receiver.
35:50You bake in the injury risk that probably puts him back into round three beginning of round four.
35:55Jamar Chase says he wants 23 touchdowns. I'm not going to bet against him.
35:59I'm not going to bet on that, but I think we're looking at a guy that can be close to the touchdown leader.
36:06He already did that two years ago when he was a Triple Crown winner.
36:09So, yes, the Bengals' defense will be better. Does not mean the Bengals' defense is great.
36:14So, we can have – you know, this is such a myth.
36:17You can still have a great offense with a great defense.
36:21You don't have to have a great offense with a bad defense.
36:24It doesn't mean, okay, yeah, your defense is good.
36:26Well, your offense sucks. Like, the Rams are going to score a lot of points.
36:31The Bengals should still score plenty of points with an improved defense.
36:34Dallas should still score plenty of points with an improved defense.
36:37So, I don't think you look at it and say defense is better.
36:41That means the offense sucks. So, I'm drafting Joe Burrow as a top-five quarterback.
36:45I'm drafting Chase Brown as a top-five running back.
36:47And Jamar Chase, number-one receiver. Tee Higgins, top 15.
36:50It is now time for Adam to share a word document, okay?
36:53This is Joe Burrow's pass attempts per game in his healthy games, matched up with Cincinnati's defensive rank.
36:58You see, in year two, they were 17th in defense, and he only threw 32.5 pass attempts per game.
37:04I don't know what that was all about. But in year three, I believe this was their Super Bowl year, the Bengals
37:10were fifth in defense, and he threw 37.9 pass attempts per game in his healthy games.
37:15And he's been 38.7, 38.4, 35.1 last year, which I expect to be even higher than that.
37:19They will throw plenty. And they don't really have – they're not a physical ground-and-pound run team.
37:24They're trying to become one somehow. They don't have the personnel for that.
37:28They're going away from that so fast. Looking at the first play where Burrow went under center play action and took a
37:34sack, I was looking at that, and I didn't know he threw a dig route to Chase later last night.
37:40But I was looking at him like, they are so going away from this whole thing so fast this season.
37:45I think they'll be the first team to go away from everyone.
37:49The Giants, the Bengals, the Ravens, all these teams trying to get their quarterbacks under center.
37:53To me, the Bengals are the first team to go away from it.
37:57What are you laughing at? I'm laughing at an email that we just got, like a draft-a-thon email.
38:02I'm laughing at the chat, so we have two things we're laughing at.
38:06MB Spam, what is this broke word doc? Is this how the Acer stats are calculated?
38:10Is this how you calculate your stats? Hey, listen, man.
38:13This is part of my Joe Burrow research because you might go – not you, but someone out there might go, well,
38:19they're going to have a better defense. They're not going to throw as much.
38:23We've got to do the research and say, hey, they went to the Super Bowl one year.
38:28They had the fifth best defense, and he threw 38 times per game.
38:32So, like – I think the bigger concern is it's 2026, and you're using Word.
38:36What should I be using? Google Sheets, Google Docs, Excel.
38:39This is on my laptop. I can upload it to Google Docs after.
38:42This is my – I just copied it. Excel, Sheets seems like a better use of like a numbers-based – Yeah, a numbers-based Sheets, a number-based thing.
38:50You don't need a doc. It's part of the full Joe Burrow analysis.
38:54There's a lot of words in there. Excel wouldn't work for that.
38:57Seemed like a lot of numbers, not words. Well, that – because I just took the numbers part out.
39:03Okay. All right. This is from Michael, and he says, Dear Jeremy, Mark, Evan, and Isaiah.
39:07Jeremy, Mark, Evan, and Isaiah. Isaiah, Isaiah likely Mark Andrews.
39:10Nope. Shockey. Evan Ingram. No. Bavaro, Shockey. Dan, the fact that Jamie got that.
39:14Giant side ends. Come on, man. I mean, I would have got there eventually.
39:18Jamie's just good at this game. I'm not. We've established that a long time ago.
39:22I have the fourth pick in a 12-team PPR league.
39:25I was planning to take Puka Nakua, but with the groin and the suspension potentially looming, should I pivot to Amon Ross St.
39:31Brown or Christian McCaffrey or JSN? And what are you guys doing at four right now?
39:36We did a draft this morning, and Nakua went eighth, I think.
39:39The way I see it is JSN almost entirely – wildly unlikely to repeat in last season.
39:44He's probably the biggest regression candidate in fantasy football.
39:47I still think he'll be very good, but not at that level, where I would pass on a Puka.
39:52McCaffrey's the only one I would consider, because McCaffrey can outscore Puka.
39:55The rest of them can outscore Puka. I don't think he's getting suspended either.
39:59If he gets suspended, we're probably looking at two games max, just because he hasn't been convicted of anything.
40:05I would think the groin injury is a little bit more concerning.
40:08Didn't he have a hamstring injury last year at the start of camp, or was that just Stafford's back injury that dropped?
40:14I think it was just the Stafford back that was getting us last year.
40:18I thought there might have been something for him too.
40:21He was a great value pick last year. This may scare some people off.
40:25He's still working off on the side, so it's not like he's just sitting out completely.
40:30I think if we get to the end of August and he's still out, and we're doing drafts then, then he should fall for me.
40:37He's still the fourth overall pick. If you want to go to a different receiver, you can go to the other two guys.
40:43All right, next up we have Matt in Canada.
40:46Oh, actually, next up we have a commercial break.
40:48Matt in Canada says, if all 32 starting running backs decide to take a spaceship to Mars for the next six months,
40:55how would you rank the top five of those left here on Earth?
40:58Great question. We'll come back after this. That's a good question.
41:01Yeah, on Fantasy Football today. Hey, before we jump back into the show, let's take a quick break, but not just any break.
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42:22Visit yearup.org to learn more. All right, again, if all 32 starting running backs take a spaceship to Mars for the next
42:28six months, how would you rank the top five running backs of those left here on Earth?
42:33And I'm going to answer this question under the assumption that I'm just ranking them based on their talent, not based on
42:39their fantasy situation, or am I ranking it based on fantasy?
42:43I think it's got to be fantasy. Okay. And who are the 32 starters?
42:47Because we have some questions in certain backfields. The only one...
42:50You have to just... Yeah. I think my guess...
42:52I don't know if that'll be your answer, though.
42:55We'll see. To me, the first two that came to mind are Corum and Menongai.
42:59Right? Those are one and two. I don't know about Menongai, too.
43:02Maybe not Menongai. They're in the top five. They're in the top five.
43:06Yeah, yeah. Corum and Menongai, for sure. I wish he was healthy.
43:09I could say Jordan James, but I can't because he's not healthy, so I can say him, but that would be a good one.
43:16Let's see. Corum and Menongai. I... Not Ray Davis because I think that...
43:20PPR? Ty would play. Yeah, we'll do PPR. Why not?
43:23Gainwell's in my top five. Ooh, interesting. Gainwell was awesome last year when he got the chance to start for the Steelers.
43:29That is true. So different. They just... Wouldn't they use Tucker more?
43:32Yeah, they do have Sean Tucker. That one scares me.
43:35Bigsby. Tank Bigsby's a really good one. Right? That's great.
43:38I don't know. I don't know if he's going to catch the ball.
43:42Doesn't. I don't know if it matters. Barkley didn't catch the ball in 2024.
43:46You know, Chris Rodriguez is a good player, but yeah.
43:49Yeah, anyone with Liam Cohen, but... He doesn't catch the ball.
43:52Hmm. I would say my top ones are Corum, Bigsby for Fantasy.
43:55Oh, Travion. Who? Travion. Oh, Travion's one. Yeah, Travion's one.
43:58I don't know. I don't think they... I think they find other dudes to put in there.
44:03No. Now we're getting so nitpicky on this. It's just who's the backup and how good are they?
44:08No, it's based on their fantasy situation and how the teams use them.
44:11My top five would be... Who's going to actually be a workhorse?
44:15I'll go Henderson one, Corum two, Monongai three, don't want to put Gainwell four?
44:19Pacheco? No. I mean, to walk into the Lions situation, not bad.
44:22Already hurt. Mike Washington. May lose his job to Vocky.
44:25But if you draft him before Gibbs... I'm going to go Henderson one, Corum two, Monongai three, Vidal four, Gainwell five.
44:31Vidal, I completely disagree on Vidal. I think Keaton Mitchell better than Vidal.
44:35Yeah, that's a problem for Vidal. I wouldn't be in Vidal.
44:38Yeah, but Keaton Mitchell is not being in every down back.
44:41Neither is Vidal. I think they eat into each other too much.
44:44Oh, I'm sorry. Take out, Vidal. Ray Davis four, Canada game one five.
44:48Okay. Tajay Spears would be in my top five.
44:50No, no way. 100%. No way. That Titans offense looks like it could be trash.
44:55You're again, you're nitpicking too much. This guy would dominate touches.
44:58Not nitpicking. It's fantasies about situations. You would dominate touches.
45:01Dominate. Please. All right. Thanks, Matt, for making us hate each other even more.
45:05This one's from Ryan. Dear Adam, the greatest fantasy football host in the world.
45:09Wow. It's a shocker. You read this one. Yeah.
45:11Well, I knew Dan was on the show. I had to put something on here to boost my confidence.
45:16Oh, you manipulated it again? Okay, go ahead. No.
45:19When you guys say greater late for tight end, how late is too late?
45:23Is late considered Kincaid in the ninth round? Don't take him in the ninth round.
45:27He should be going later than that. Or more like likely in the twelfth round.
45:31He's not going to make it to the twelfth round.
45:34He's not making it as well. Yeah. Switch those rounds.
45:37That's a good question. I'm not a greater. I don't say greater late.
45:41Is this something you say, Jamie? So I let you answer this.
45:44No, this is something that Adam came up with like four years ago and he's jokingly gives Jamie credit for it.
45:50No, because I would say it on other shows giving you credit and then people would give me credit and then come
45:56on and be like, oh, you guys have that greater late theory.
46:00It's so awesome. Dude, you guys are Jamie. Is this another thing you claim, Adam, that's not true?
46:05Let me tell you something. I called Dan a few days ago about something work-related and Dan goes, and by the way,
46:11when we played our practice match, I knew Dan was playing with his dad the next day.
46:16Dad, his parents, lovely people, by the way. Very nice people.
46:19Broad-chested? No, I don't know where Dan came from, but Dan says to me, I just let you know I haven't picked up a racket since we played.
46:27And then a couple minutes ago, did you play with your dad?
46:30The next day he goes, yeah, we played. It was doubles with me and my dad.
46:35It was me and my seven-year-old dad versus my friend Gary and his seven-year-old dad.
46:39But you didn't use a racket for that. You just used your hands.
46:43That was, unfortunately. And then luckily for me, I got in a set with my brother last weekend.
46:48Thank God. I need to try to find a way to play before our set.
46:52You played him last week before the phone call with me where you said you hadn't picked up No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
46:59Was the phone call this week? Yes, it was like three days ago.
47:03And I did lie to you about that. Such a liar.
47:06Wow. He's such a liar, this guy. Unbelievable. I did get one set with him in Brooklyn.
47:11All right, greater late is, I would say it's like basically the top 12 tight ends.
47:16It's like that, where you're going like likely Goddard, Kelsey, late or Kittle if he falls there as opposed to great.
47:21But it would be avoiding, I don't really know if I subscribe to it this year because we like the tight end position better.
47:28It would be avoiding guys like Fannin and Pitts and Laporta in the mid rounds.
47:32That's usually actually what I do. Well, I think it's also like if you like the position, you don't have to spend
47:39the premium price tag on Bowers and McBride. Yeah.
47:41But it is avoiding the mid round guys. That's what it is.
47:45That's what it is. And I had that conversation with Jacob on yesterday, show with him one before for Beyond the Box.
47:51And I was just like, he loves Fannin and he thinks that's a great value.
47:55I don't want to take anyone there. And he's like, I guess the debate is this year, do those guys have enough upside?
48:02Because I do like to avoid them usually. And I'm curious what you think on this, Jamie.
48:06Those guys have enough upside. The Fannin craft, I'll just put it at.
48:10Maybe likely you want to throw that in there to outweigh what you're giving up at receiver and running back from a depth standpoint at that point.
48:18Because you're taking at that point most likely a backup or flex depending on how big your league is.
48:23And I never feel like those tight ends are worth it, but they might be this year.
48:28I think they will be this year if they hit, but that's the problem that we run into a coordinator change in a very crowded offense.
48:35We're asking a lot of Harold Fannin to do what he did last year in now a crowded offense.
48:41We're asking Kyle Pitts, who's never been consistent, to be consistent.
48:44There's a lot of questions. I wish I could share what we're laughing about, but it's not appropriate.
48:49Not appropriate at all. Guys, we've got 10 minutes left.
48:52We need eight of them for Dan to tell a story.
48:55So let's fly through the rest of these emails from Ace.
48:58Do you think Travion Henderson is a bigger, faster version of James White in the Josh McDaniels offense, a PPR Pac-Man?
49:04No. I mean, James White could block and run routes the right way.
49:08Yeah, I don't think so. Did you know that Ramondre Stevenson had a better yards-per-out run last year than Travion Henderson?
49:13Yeah, he had his best receiving season ever, though, so I'm not really buying that from Travion.
49:18And he's looked in camp so far. He's been doing work in the passing game from what I've seen.
49:24He's been good. That's why Travion's not James White.
49:26This is from Gunner. I wish I had had a chance to look into this, Gunner.
49:31I'm sorry. I just saw this email this morning.
49:33Do you have any data on how it has worked out in the fantasy world for guys drafted in the first half
49:39of the first round alongside a teammate? Gibbs and Amon Ross St.
49:43Brown are the only ones I can think of, and I'm curious if this should be a red flag.
49:48So what is it? The first half? Say it again.
49:51Like two top six, or you can extend it, top eight, whatever, on the same team.
49:56What do we have? It doesn't happen this year.
49:58What do we even have with that? Cowboy? No, the Lions.
50:01Oh, the Lions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gibbs and Amon Ross.
50:04Did we have this last year? I'm trying to remember.
50:07Gibbs and Amon Ross were both top nine picks last year, so it's not that far off.
50:12Yeah, right. I think really if you just say first round picks, like how many players are on the same team.
50:18They both paid off beautifully. Yeah. I'm looking. I mean, you could have Bijan in London this year.
50:23We've had mistakes like Brees Hall and Garrett Wilson on a bad offense.
50:26But that was round three. No, no, three years ago.
50:29That was round one. That was round one. 2024.
50:32Not two years ago. Wilson was more like the turn.
50:35Garrett Wilson. I'm looking at Fantasy Pro's ADP right now.
50:37Brees Hall pick four or five. I remember that.
50:40Garrett Wilson 12th. Hmm. Yeah, it was a mistake.
50:43But that's that's why you don't take bad. That was the Rogers first year Rogers when Kelsey and Hill going round one.
50:49That's a good question. They must have. No, Kelsey took him a while to go to round one, even when he was dominating.
50:55Listen, man, if two players on the same team are going to be worth round one picks, they're going to have to be on really good offense.
51:03And the Lions are fit that mold. Right. So the Falcons is the tough one to buy, right?
51:08Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I've seen people like be like, I took B.
51:12John Robinson in round one. Drake London fell to me in round two, but I didn't want to do it because it almost happened with you, Jamie.
51:19Like, oh, no, it didn't. You took Jefferson. You took a shoot.
51:23I'm sorry. You took chase. Let's say you had started with B.
51:26John at pick four and London had been there today in the half PPR draft.
51:30Would you have done it? No. OK. I think the stat that Jamie referenced a bunch is great stat.
51:36You've pulled. I've heard you say it upon a bunch of T's.
51:39The only reason I don't I feel comfortable taking B.
51:42John that high, which is to his percentage targeting running backs.
51:45I'm very nervous about London and and B. John this year.
51:48Both of them that that Falcons offense could be much worse than people think potentially.
51:52All right. We've got. Let's see, Bob. This will be our last one here.
51:56Bob thinks we're sleeping on Jadarian price. What am I missing?
51:59He asks. Well, you're missing the fact that Charbonnet is ahead of schedule on his ACL recovery.
52:04And from what I've heard, it's like the good ACL.
52:07I don't even know what that means anymore. The good ACL.
52:10Whenever I hear that, I think of the curb your enthusiasm skit with the Hodgkins disease, the good and the bad Hodgkins.
52:16But apparently he's got the good ACL. He's coming back faster than expected.
52:20And if you draft price and then Charbonnet is back, what's the upside there?
52:24We know Charbonnet is handling all the red zone work.
52:27So now you've kind of got a dead zone back at that point, unless you think he's that good that he can,
52:33I guess, score from distance because he's not going to get a lot of receptions or at least it wasn't on his college profile Jadarian price.
52:40And if he loses red zone work, it doesn't feel like a good bet to me.
52:45And it sounds like they're going to use even when Charbonnet is out there.
52:49Halani. Yeah. They are going to use Halani. Yeah, they'll use him.
52:52I'm not convinced that Charbonnet is just going to get basically all of the goal line work like he did last year
52:59because two years ago, same coach, same head coach, different coordinator.
53:02But again, they've recorded this year. Ken Walker actually had more of the goal line work when he was healthy.
53:07I think he played 11 games that year. He had more of the goal line work than Charbonnet that season.
53:13I would expect Charbonnet would have more goal line carries, but I don't know that he'll have the, like, basically, he was
53:19that guy last year with a few exceptions when he was on the field.
53:23So it might be a little bit more even there than it was last season.
53:27But Ken Walker was, I think he was RB28 last year.
53:31And he had a really, he played well last year.
53:33He wasn't RB28 because he stunk. He was RB28 because they didn't throw to him and he didn't score touchdowns.
53:39So that's the issue there. But I'm, I am not worried at all about George Helani like really hurting Jadarian Price.
53:45Yeah, it's one thing if we were taking... But you should be.
53:48Well, no, because if I were taking him in the first round or the second or the third, I wouldn't take him
53:55at the fifth or the sixth round. Oh, no, no, no, no.
53:58Where you're taking Price is perfect. You know, round five, round six range is absolutely perfect.
54:02But you still, when you look at the evaluation, the evaluation is, it could be George Helani, it could be Emmanuel Wilson, it could be Dan Schneier.
54:10They're going to use somebody else there. Oh, it can't be me.
54:14I would not be able to play football. Yeah, I'm...
54:16Well, I mean, according to Adam, I'd be beefed up enough to...
54:20I would be... Play guard. ...out of commission in the first, play guard.
54:23Last year, Zach Charbonnet had the fifth highest percentage of team touches inside the 10-yard line when healthy.
54:29I don't see that going down by too much for Jerry.
54:32It just makes sense that if his knee is right but not full, you know, full go, Zach Charbonnet, like use him
54:38in a short yardage role and keep him fresh.
54:40Yeah, I agree. So, I also just, I've mentioned this before, I don't know that we know how good Jadarian Price is.
54:47There have been plenty of guys drafted in that range in the NFL draft like Rashad Penny and Sonny Michel and Clyde
54:53Edwards-Elair just because they were in the first round doesn't mean they're that good.
54:57He didn't really have a lot of work in college, so he's still a bit of an unknown.
55:02All right, Dan, we got four minutes left. Let's get the bingo card out.
55:06Let's check off the golf story. This is the most.
55:09Half the bingo card filled out, very good, but take us home.
55:12This is the most Dan Schneier story of all Dan Schneier stories.
55:15Two Saturdays ago, a good friend of mine invited me to his country club to play Wachung Valley, beautiful course, love it.
55:22Play golf. So we play around, it's match play.
55:24It was a hot day. I was planning to walk.
55:27What's match play? What did you say? What's match play?
55:30Match play is, essentially works like this. There's 18 holes.
55:33If you win a hole versus your opponent, you get one basically point for that.
55:37So it's not like total strokes. Like you don't win by scoring an 88 versus a 92.
55:42It makes it a little bit more fair. Plus, like with the handicap, I had to give him like six strokes or whatever it was.
55:49So you give him a chance, whatever. So anyway, I'm planning to walk and carry that day, but it's like 95 degrees.
55:55So I get convinced by my friend to ride in the car.
55:58My friend, Kevin's riding, driving our, our golf cart.
56:01He's has the scorecard because he's the driver. The way he does his scorecard, he needs the whole scorecard because he keeps
56:07stats on like fairways hit and chips, all sorts of stuff.
56:10So it's taking up the whole thing. So he, he can't keep my score because he needs the whole scorecard.
56:16So I'm like, whatever. Like Scott, my other friend who invited me is keeping score of our match.
56:21So he's writing down every score every time. So just keep that in mind.
56:25Scott's keeping score the entire day. This is the only time I've ever golfed in my life.
56:30Literally the only time where I haven't kept score as I golfed.
56:33So I'm having the round of my life out here.
56:36At one point, I go seven pars in a row.
56:39And so when you start to do that in your head, the thing with golf is you never want to jinx yourself.
56:45Like I'm kind of, I don't think I would have played this well and scored this well if I had kept the
56:51score in my card because I would have seen how well I was doing because I wasn't.
56:56I think it helped me, but I didn't want to ask anything about what my score was or anything like that.
57:02But I knew with seven pars in a row and a birdie on the front, I had a shot at something real.
57:08Like previously, my best score was an 83 at the null.
57:11And this is a harder course. One 37 slope.
57:14We played from the green 62, 99 yards. Just want to get that all out there before I get to the final of the story.
57:21So I go seven pars in a row. We get to 18 and finally, my friend Scott who's keeping score the whole
57:27time says, do you want to know where you're at?
57:30Do you want to know what you need? And when I said, when he said, do you want to know what you need?
57:37I knew what that meant. It meant you have a real shot to break 80, which is insane.
57:42So he goes, he's keeping score the whole round.
57:44He goes, you need a birdie. It was a par five.
57:47You need a birdie to break 80. So we hit it.
57:50I hit a good drive. Second shot's good. I have 120 left.
57:54I go onto the green with a pitching wedge from 120 out and I have a birdie putt of like 12 feet to break 90 in my head.
58:02What I thought was to break, no 80, sorry, to break 80 in my head.
58:06I hit the putt. It's a solid putt, honestly, for a break 80 putt, but I didn't play the break perfectly and
58:12it rolls to like less than a foot and I tap it in for par.
58:16Anyway, the round's over and I'm so excited. I shot 80.
58:20It's my best score ever. I text, this is what you do.
58:23I mean, maybe it's just me because I'm an idiot, but this is what, and I'm sure other people do this.
58:29I text all these group chats. My brother, look what I just broke 80.
58:33Whatever. The next day, on Sunday, I post my scorecard or maybe it was later that day on Twitter.
58:38I post my scorecard like PR, best round ever.
58:41I shot 80 and I post the scorecard Scott gave me and on the scorecard, he writes down a score for the
58:47front and the back and then he writes down the total score, 80 and then all our other scores like his score, his dad's and my friend Kevin.
58:55Please tell me you got it wrong. This is, I post it wrong.
58:59Two days later, about 72 hours later, I post the scorecard.
59:02A listener of the podcast DMs me. He's like, hey Dan, I don't know what happened here, but your score adds up to 79.
59:09Whoa. It's like, you got a 41 on the front and a 38 on the back and I went back and I
59:15looked at it and I'm like, oh my God, I'm in a pure panic mode because I'm celebrating and so I texted
59:21Scott and Kevin who I was there and played the round with and I was like, guys, my listener said I shot 79.
59:27We said we shot 80. Like, what happened here?
59:30And we went over every hole from the, like literally all 18 and we're like, nope, that was scored right and every
59:36single hole was scored correctly and written correctly. He just totaled it wrong and added it wrong.
59:41So I'm the only guy ever to break 80 and not get the moment of celebration after the moment he broke 80.
59:47Like, I was there, I thought I shot an 80 which I was happy about but there's a difference and so I
59:53went 72 hours without knowing it and now some of these groups that I sent this message to about shooting an 80
60:00that day, I feel some kind of awkwardness to going back and being like, hey, guys, actually, remember that 80?
60:05Remember that 80 I told you I shot? Well, actually, it was a 79.
60:09So technically, like, he wrote it wrong and like, now I'm like, I can't do it.
60:14you can't. But then at the same time, they think I never broke an 80 before and so it's...
60:19If you're the type of guy to go bragging right after the round, go back and send the same stupid text messages.
60:25Probably right. Probably no one cares in general. You should bring up something else and then, like, hey, did you watch the House of the Dragon?
60:33Oh, by the way, FYI, anyway, is breaking 80 like a huge deal?
60:36It's an insane deal. I didn't, I've taken a huge jump this year but to the point where like, if I do
60:43play Thomas, producer Thomas, the last time we played was two years ago.
60:46He probably just destroyed me by like 12 or 13 strokes.
60:49I wasn't even anywhere near his level. Now I feel like I actually have a legitimate chance to maybe beat him which is insane.
60:56By the way, I'm going to let you know, you're probably going to need to take a golf cart from the baseline to the chair in between games.
61:04Just let you know. There's a difference between golf shape and tennis shape and I am certainly not in tennis shape right now.
61:11Nope. Thank you. This is an outdoor court, right?
61:13Yeah. I hope not. Is it outdoor? We're playing outdoors?
61:16Bro, I am so screwed. That's what I'm saying.
61:19Three points, you're going to be done. Oh, I am so screwed.
61:22We're playing outdoors. Now listen, I can't play in the What day are we doing?
61:26This is the 20th? Thursday. Thursday. I don't know what I'm going to do.
61:30Let me check the old forecast. I'm going to have to eat really good.
61:34I already checked the forecast, like 93 degrees inside.
61:37All right, Jamie, next week I'm going to be in the office, which I'm excited about getting to see all you guys.
61:43Let's not, I'm sure we'll go out to a lunch at some point.
61:47Let's make it salads and stuff. I got to be really careful next week.
61:51Oh, you're going to get, you're going to get 61% chance of rain on Thursday.
61:55How much? That's not good. 61%. But that's Florida.
61:57Isn't it always 60%? Oh, that's bad. Why? Isn't it always like that?
62:0151% means 90. Really? But at what time? Four o'clock.
62:04Always four o'clock. No, no, no, no. We'll be fine.
62:07No, it always rains at like 11 o'clock. We'll be fine.
62:10We'll be fine. I didn't, I thought we were playing indoors in like a cool arena.
62:14Why would you come down here to play indoors?
62:17Because it's Florida in the middle of August. There's no, there really are no indoor courts, but indoor courts get even hotter than outdoor.
62:24You don't have to deal with the sun, but you're right.
62:27That indoor court experience last year was one of the hot.
62:30I've never played in anything like that. Last year when we played that match, Jamie said it best on air.
62:36I think with Heath, he thought I might die in that second set.
62:39I was potential. I was very close to collapsing on the court, which is really an insane thing as a 35 year old to collapse on the court.
62:47What'd you say? Weigh-ins. Yeah, where I'm at right now.
62:50And it's crazy. Last year I did such a good job.
62:53I gotta go. Are we, wait, before we go, do we, we have Jamie, you're going to be there in heat or not Heath.
63:00I know. And Dave, correct? Yeah, but I really gotta go.
63:03I'll be there. Yeah. And I want you both as line judges for this match.
63:07I thought I'm commentating. I think if they're watching and I need line judges for this match, I think that we can appeal to them.
63:14Like we make our own calls. No, I want line judges for this match.
63:18No, Dan, they're not tennis players. Like they're going to get things wrong.
63:22Okay. You need experience doing it. What are we idiots?
63:25No, but you need experience. Like seeing the ball, like just barely scrape over the line.
63:29I've written about professional tennis in my life. Jamie can spot a line.
63:33I think he's got eyes. I mean, you need experience.
63:36You want to throw rookies out there. Let's get some FFT listeners to come up and be line judges.
63:41Again, again, again, you can call him all the things you want.
63:45Don't be told me. Oh, dude. And nice. Nice.
63:47Well done, Jamie. Make his life harder in the editing room.
63:50Post show. I love it. We'll talk to you later on fantasy football today.
63:54Thanks everybody. Podcasts.