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2026 Fantasy Football 0.5 PPR Mock Draft | 12-Team Redraft Strategy & Picks (08/14 Fantasy Football Podcast)
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1 hr 1 min
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Aug 14, 2026
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Fri, August 14, 2026
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Chuba HubbardJeremiyah LoveJordyn TysonTony PollardAlec PierceBucky IrvingCarnell TateChase BrownColston LovelandD'Andre SwiftDavid MontgomeryDerrick HenryDK MetcalfIsiah Pacheco
Player analysis
Player insights
Alec Pierce
NegativeInjury43:45
Alec Pierce is currently not practicing due to injury, but the team hopes he will contribute as a WR3 by week one.
Insight pageBucky Irving
PositiveUsage29:55
James Cook notes that if Bucky Irving secures the lead role and Kenneth Gainwell is relegated to passing-down work, Irving's ADP will rise significantly.
Insight pageCarnell Tate
NegativeProjection40:29
Dave expresses concern regarding Carnell Tate after a poor preseason performance, noting that Tate struggled with route running and acceleration, though he is not ready to fully downgrade him yet.
Insight pageChase Brown
NegativeUsage1:05
Chase Brown was selected seventh overall. While he is not expected to receive every snap due to Samaje Perine working with the first team, Brown was utilized on a couple of third downs.
Insight pageChuba Hubbard
NegativeInjury3:17
Chuba Hubbard is currently week-to-week with a hamstring injury, which impacts the draft outlook for Jonathan Brooks.
Insight pagePositiveValue46:10
Chuba Hubbard is considered a good value pick at 92nd overall because he is not out for the season and will maintain a role.
Insight pageColston Loveland
PositiveValue27:27
Colson Loveland is targeted to provide a positional advantage at tight end. The manager prioritized him over wide receivers, confident that a solid receiver would still be available in the next round.
Insight pageD'Andre Swift
PositiveValue21:15
James Cook prioritizes drafting DeAndre Swift as a safer floor running back to pair with Jeremiah Love, noting that he is a preferred option over Tony Pollard or Jonathan Brooks in that draft range.
Insight pageDavid Montgomery
PositiveValue22:54
Dave selects David Montgomery in round five, viewing him as a solid RB2 and a better value than other available options like Bejal Tootin or Jadarian Price in this specific draft format.
Insight pageDerrick Henry
PositiveValue4:19
Derrick Henry was the first pick of the second round (13th overall). In a half-PPR format, he is considered a strong value at this range, whereas his appeal is lower in full-PPR leagues.
Insight pageDK Metcalf
NegativeBust43:22
The source expresses a consistent dislike for drafting DK Metcalf, noting that other options like Alec Pierce, Addison, Wandale, or Sutton were available at that ADP.
Insight pageIsiah Pacheco
NegativeBust58:18
The source would have preferred waiting for Tank Bigsby rather than drafting Isaiah Pacheco, citing concerns over his MCL sprain.
Insight pageJ.K. Dobbins
NegativeValue41:18
The panel agrees that J.K. Dobbins going 67th overall is too early in the draft.
Insight pageJalen Coker
PositiveValue52:26
The source expresses excitement for Jalen Coker, noting they would have taken him over Wandale Robinson in a half-PPR format.
Insight pageJames Cook
PositiveValue0:53
James Cook was selected third overall in the mock draft by a manager who identified him as their RB3 and expressed a strong dislike for the running back options available at the 2/3 turn, preferring to secure Cook early.
Insight pageJavonte Williams
PositiveUsage30:59
Javonte Williams saw a massive decline in target volume late in the season, dropping from a 72-target pace in the first eight games to a 36-target pace in his final eight games.
Insight pageJeremiyah Love
PositiveUsage34:15
Jeremiah Love is being paired with DeAndre Swift to create a backfield with a safer floor. The manager prefers this combination over other options like Tony Pollard or Jonathan Brooks in the sixth round.
Insight pagePositiveRole47:13
James Cook views Jeremiah Love as having a higher ceiling than other backs in his tier because he is less likely to be in a shared backfield compared to Kyren Williams or Josh Jacobs.
Insight pageJonah Coleman
PositiveSleeper56:16
Jonah Coleman is a late-round target on the hunch that he could become the lead back for Denver if Javonte Williams misses time.
Insight pageJonathon Brooks
PositiveBreakout35:24
Jonathan Brooks is viewed as a high-upside lottery ticket in round six or seven, though there are concerns about his injury history and the presence of Chuba Hubbard in the Panthers' backfield.
Insight pageJordan Mason
PositiveValue44:37
James Cook loves Jordan Mason and has been drafting him ahead of his ADP as a high-upside player.
Insight pageJordyn Tyson
NegativeInjury3:29
Jordan Tyson is dealing with a hamstring injury. He has a significant history of injuries, including hamstring issues from the previous season, which makes his availability uncertain.
Insight pageNegativeInjury47:02
Jordan Tyson is dealing with his third hamstring injury since the end of the college season, making his availability for the first half of the season uncertain.
Insight pageKyle Monangai
PositiveValue45:08
Kyle Monongai is viewed as a high-upside stash for managers who already have three starting running backs, specifically as an injury handcuff for Aaron Jones.
Insight pageKyle Pitts
NegativeBust42:35
The source questions the selection of Kyle Pitts because the manager already had Trey McBride on their roster.
Insight pageMalik Washington
PositiveSleeper59:45
Malik Washington is preferred over Caleb Douglas because he has a better chance to consistently earn targets in his offense.
Insight pageMichael Wilson
PositiveValue42:25
James Cook prefers drafting Michael Wilson in round seven over Marvin Harrison in round six.
Insight pagePuka Nacua
NegativeInjury2:23
Puka Nacua is expected to be out for about a week due to groin soreness. He also reportedly walked into a glass window during the offseason.
Insight pageRJ Harvey
NegativeValue47:59
The source considers drafting RJ Harvey at 95th overall a reach, preferring Blake Corum, Kenneth Gainwell, or Ja'Cory Krosky Merritt.
Insight pageStefon Diggs
Tony Pollard
PositiveValue41:26
James Cook prefers Tony Pollard over Rico Dowdle in a half-PPR format.
Insight pageFull transcript
Episode Transcript
0:00This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Swap play!
0:03Can you believe this? He had no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
0:08Off to the races! And he stays on his feet!
0:11He's just gonna go the distance! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
0:16Happy Friday everybody and welcome to the show. We are doing a live mock draft right now.
0:2140 seconds on the clock. Jamie is on the clock.
0:24I'm not sure if he is in the draft room, so we might have to pick for him.
0:30I'm good. Stop crying. Oh, he's good. All right, fix your microphone, Jamie.
0:34And he's about to make his pick. Probably gonna take Jamar Chase.
0:37It is a half PPR league though. And it is a three-receiver league with a flex.
0:42No kicker, no DST. Quarterback, two running backs, three receivers, tight end, and a flex.
0:47Half PPR. We talk a lot about full PPRs.
0:50This is gonna be half. And we had a surprise pick at number three with James Cook, a team named Adams Beard.
0:57Hopefully you're not gonna see it. Let's go Devontae Smith.
1:00Anyway, James Cook going third. So it goes Gibbs, Bijan, Cook, Chase, JSN, Amon Ross St.
1:05Brown. And we just had Chase Brown pick seventh overall.
1:08And we did see Samaje P. Ryan working with the first team.
1:11So Chase Brown's not gonna get every snap. But Chase Brown was in on a couple of third downs, so that was cool.
1:18Did you, by the way, speaking of the bet, did you see that somebody found a flaw in Heath's plan?
1:25No, I didn't. So the Giants could be eliminated in September, right?
1:28Mm-hmm. That doesn't mean that Devontae Smith has lost the bet to Zay Flowers.
1:33That's true. That's the full season. That's true. That's true.
1:36It's gotta be the full season. Good point. So you can make the bet, because by January, your beard will not be terrible.
1:43Yeah, okay. That's probably true. So Puka Nakua, so we've got some injury updates here.
1:47Puka Nakua is gonna be out about a week.
1:50He has groin soreness. He also apparently walked into a glass window.
1:54Great offseason. It's been wild. He just went eighth.
1:57It's a half PPR leak. Curious to see where Jonathan Brooks goes today, because Chuba Hubbard is week-to-week with a hamstring injury.
2:04Well, wait till you get to my round two pick.
2:07Chris Olave? You know, where is he gonna go?
2:09Jordan Tyson has a hamstring injury, and he's got a major history of injuries, including hamstring issues just last year.
2:16Here's round one. Gibbs, Bijan, James Cook, which we wouldn't do.
2:19Jamar Chase, JSN, St. Brown, Chase Brown, Puka Nakua, Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffrey, CeeDee Lamb, and the last pick was Devon Achan.
2:26All right, the picks are flying off the board.
2:29Dave, what pick do you have? Jamie has the fourth pick.
2:32What pick do you have? I'm at 11. You're up.
2:35You're up. I'm up. I took CeeDee Lamb first, because I figured there would be a running back that would make it
2:42back to me, and sure enough, there is. I'm taking Omari and Hampton.
2:46Cool. All right, I'm gonna pause the draft, because it's a fast draft with a 40-second clock, and we'll catch up.
2:52We'll catch our breath a little bit. So after Taylor, McCaffrey, Lamb, Achan, to finish off round one, Dave took Lamb.
2:59Derek Henry was the first pick of round two, and in a half PPR league, can't really argue with him at 13, right, guys?
3:06No. I mean, would you take him over? We still have Gentie and Hampton at that point on the board.
3:12Would you have taken Henry or Gentie, Hampton? Gentie, Hampton.
3:15Hampton, Gentie. Okay. So the question for you is, we had five wide receivers go.
3:20Chase went fourth. JSN fifth. St. Brown sixth. Puka Nakua eighth.
3:24CD Lamb 11th. Dave, in a half PPR league, is your first round strategy different than it is in a full PPR league?
3:31A little bit. You certainly want to lean into the running backs more, but if there's one that you see that doesn't
3:37have the same type of upside, like the decision I had to make at 11 was CD Lamb or Achan or Hampton or Gentie.
3:45And I knew I was guaranteed one of them to come back to me, so that's why I went with Lamb.
3:51But let's say I was picking ninth and I had a similar decision.
3:55I might just go with the running back that I think is best at that point.
4:00Okay. Yeah. Because when you're picking 11, you have obviously a much clearer picture of what's going to be available to you in the second round.
4:08All right. And then, Jamie, overall, this is, once again, it's a three-receiver league with one flex.
4:14In a half PPR league, do you think you're going to draft any differently than you would in a full PPR league?
4:20I mean, slightly. So I wouldn't take Derrick Henry in this range in a full PPR league.
4:26I would consider it in a half PPR league or certainly in a non-PPR league.
4:30I probably would have gone running back, running back if I was Dave, just knowing that there were still two really good
4:37ones or three really good ones on the board still.
4:40So that's probably the different approach for sure. Not that I'm opposed to doing it in full PPR at this point, but
4:47I just think that it leans more toward, it lends itself towards running backs being more successful.
4:52Sure. That's true. Yeah. And maybe it makes you want to start a running back in your flex a little bit more
4:59than a wide receiver, but it kind of evens the playing field there in that regard.
5:04Whereas in PPR, unless you went heavy with running backs, I'm thinking a PPR three-receiver league, your flex is usually going to be, eh, I don't know.
5:12I shouldn't say that. For me, I'm probably thinking it's going to be a wide receiver.
5:17All right, last point before I resume the draft.
5:20Jamie, we did the live mock draft with the fans on Tuesday night.
5:24And one of the things I said, I asked you is at what point in the draft is running back value as good or better than wide receiver?
5:33So in the first round, you know, it's about the same.
5:36In the second round, it's probably about the same.
5:39You know, where you look at the running backs and the receivers, they look about as strong.
5:44But I feel like we felt like in the third round and the fourth round, the wide receiver selections were just better.
5:51The choices were better at wide receiver. And I think that it really makes me much more open to a running back, running back build.
5:59You know, rather than a wide receiver, wide receiver.
6:01I almost think the draft, you know, you're looking at a draft board, like it's cut in half.
6:07Like the first six picks, you're going to see potentially four wide receivers go.
6:11The back half of the first round, you're going to see a lot of running backs start to go.
6:17And as we see in average draft position right now, there's only four receivers going in the first round.
6:23And so what that tells you is the wide receiver value in round two is pretty solid.
6:28But there's also really good running backs at the start of round two.
6:32And so, you know, like we see Derrick Henry here.
6:35I think in that draft, also Derrick Henry went early.
6:38That was a full PPR. No, that was the other full PPR.
6:42Yes. We see, we saw Derrick Henry go there too.
6:45So the back end of round three, again, based on ADP, you have Devante Smith, Zay Flowers, Emeka, Buka, they're all there.
6:52And so if that's how it's going to play out, we don't see that in most of our drafts, but if that's
6:59how it's going to play out, and if you want to just extend it to maybe Olave, maybe T Higgins, you know,
7:06wherever these guys end up falling, throw a lot of McConkie in that mix, Garrett Wilson, whatever the case may be, like, it's very good wide receivers though.
7:14You know, it's not CD Lamb and Justin Jefferson if those guys do what they're capable of.
7:19But to say that you can walk away with, and I'll use, you know, Devon HN since I'm not the highest on
7:26him, but let's, you know, James Cook, Devon HN, Devante Smith, and Ladin McConkie.
7:31Like, I love that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Right.
7:33It's, it's not a bad build at all. All right, let's resume things here.
7:38First two picks of round two are Derek Henry and Omari and Hampton.
7:42By the way, Ty, who picked third, said that, yes, he meant to take James Cook.
7:47He likes James Cook. He's his RB three, and he really hates the running backs at the two, three turn.
7:53So that's a guy that said, I could take Jamar Chase or whatever here, but I don't like the running backs.
7:59I'm going to be getting, uh, he's got the third to last pick.
8:03So 22nd overall, maybe a Kenneth Walker or somebody like that could fall to him, but in a half PPR league, he
8:10might be looking at Jeremiah Love, Kyron Williams. So that is an interesting take.
8:14And I totally get it. And I am resuming the draft right now.
8:18Here we go. Jason is on the clock. Robert Thomas, who moderates our Facebook page and is a friend of the program.
8:25He is on deck. Now he's on the clock as Drake London goes.
8:29We still have Ashton Gentry on the board, Justin Jefferson, AJ Brown, guys like that.
8:34I like those other players better than London, especially because it's half PPR full PPR.
8:39You could talk me into Drake London going there, but if, if the receptions are cut in half, I don't think London's appeal is quite as good.
8:47And AJ Brown is the next pick. There goes Ashton Gentry.
8:50Dave, did you learn anything about Ashton Gentry last night?
8:53That he's, he's the legit starter for the Raiders and that his backup is pretty good, but I knew his backup was good.
9:00Yeah. His backup. Yeah. Mike Washington, definitely a handcuff you want.
9:04Well, yes, he's, but that's it. Like I wouldn't go crazy.
9:07Ogling Mike Washington because of what he did against Cardinals backup defenders.
9:11We got 12 running backs off the board in the first, I think 19 picks.
9:16Cause after Gentry was Barkley and then Kenneth Walker.
9:18So Adams beard team three was on the clock right now.
9:22We just saw pickings and Jefferson go. He wasn't going to get the, the running back he wanted.
9:27So that's why he took cooking round one. Now he takes Brock Bowers in round two.
9:32Uh, best players available. Rashid rice, Nico Collins, Jeremiah love, Trey McBride and the Bijon team just took.
9:38Rashid rice. So have Nico. See if he goes here at the two, three turn.
9:42I almost guarantee that he will to the Jameer Gibbs manager.
9:46Remember though, this is half PPR, but it is a three receiver league.
9:50I thought Gentry looked, uh, not to take too much away from three carries, but he lost weight.
9:55He slimmed down. He wants to be more explosive.
9:58I think we saw some bursts. He didn't have any long runs, but look, he really hit the hole pretty hard.
10:0510 yard run. What did you think of the offensive line?
10:08I haven't dug into the coaches film yet. Yeah, me either.
10:11I thought it was fine though. And he was running at least two of his three runs right behind Linderbaum.
10:18As expected. Yeah. Oh, there goes Olave. Jamie, let's talk about that.
10:21Olave and Nico Collins at the two, three turn with the Jordan Tyson injury.
10:26What do you think about Olave right now? And obviously we, I'm not saying Tyson's going to miss time, but miss regular season.
10:33Yeah. I mean, it obviously is, is going to make him more attractive.
10:37Not that people were, I think, afraid of Olave because of Jordan Tyson, you know, again, like you look at it, what
10:44Olave did with Rashid Shahid on the field, without Rashid Shahid on the field, it was certainly important that his numbers popped when she was there.
10:52The tie into that though, is that's when Tyler Schuch took over.
10:55So it's really hard to say that that's a one-to-one comparison.
10:59So I think you're just looking at it as if there is no Tyson for an extended period of time, then obviously Olave wins.
11:06If there's, you know, Tyson in and out of the lineup, which is kind of how I view it because, you know,
11:13this is a problem now for him dating back to last year, dating back to the off season, now training camp.
11:19And it sucks because it sounds like he was killing it in camp.
11:23Um, yeah, you know, I, I think you just kind of view Olave as a very good number two receiver.
11:30And so probably starting with like Malik neighbors, George Pickens, Devante Smith, T Higgins, that group of receivers, you can easily make
11:36a case that he should be at the top of it.
11:40So, um, late round two, early round three, depending how receivers come off the board.
11:44Would you guys take Devante Smith or Chris Olave?
11:47Olave. Uh, right. Right now, if, if this Tyson injury is a problem, then I would take Olave.
11:53Otherwise I would take Devante Smith, but it's hard to say because Devante Smith's still dealing with the same injury, which, you
12:00know, I'm, I'm as excited about him as anybody.
12:02I had to drop in my rankings. Yeah. Still out.
12:05It's been a little more than a week for both him and Makai Lemon.
12:10I'm going to pause the draft and we'll get to Dave's two picks.
12:14Can we play this out for like a million dollars?
12:17You like this? Uh, so Jamie went Jamar chase, Justin Jefferson, Jeremiah.
12:21Stop there. That's it. Well, I mean, I think every team should love their first three.
12:26It doesn't, it doesn't matter after that. I don't think, I don't agree.
12:30I don't think you have a better team than, than, you know, the, then Gibbs, Olave, Nico, you have chase Jefferson, Jeremiah love.
12:37Uh, we got pretty good. It's great. Uh, Jefferson falling to a 20, 20th overall, no 21st overall.
12:42Um, we got a three receiver team, JSN, George Pickens and Malik neighbors.
12:46That was the team with the fifth pick that was Brad.
12:50So JSN Pickens and neighbors. That's pretty good. Can't really argue with that.
12:54If he had gone with a running back in round three, it would have been Javante Williams or Kyron Williams or Brees Hall or somebody like that.
13:02So Jamie, if Devante Smith, who, like you said, you really like him, but you had to drop him a little bit.
13:09If he had been available with your third pick, would you have taken him or Jeremiah love?
13:14Uh, I would have taken love. Okay. So round three was Nico Collins, Josh Jacobs.
13:19I would have taken him with a little love.
13:21Yeah. And some tenderness. Devante Smith, Jeremiah love Malik neighbors, Javante Williams, Javante Williams or Kyron Williams guys.
13:27I'll take Javante. All right. Uh, Trey McBride going, what pick was that?
13:3131, uh, T Higgins, Zay flowers, Kyron Williams. Dave is on the clock with CD lamb and Omari and Hampton.
13:37We are about to get a massive run of wide receivers in my, I believe that it's kind of what times our mailbag today.
13:45Mailbag is about 11 o'clock. We'll be fine. Okay.
13:47trying to make lunch plans. Sorry. Just wanted to, Oh yeah.
13:51About 11 o'clock for the mailbag. Let me just tell everybody about the draft a thon real quick.
13:56And then we'll resume the draft. We also have to squeeze a break in here.
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15:38All right. Welcome back. About to get the ball rolling here.
15:41Just, um, some of the noteworthy picks, James cook third for a team that didn't like the running backs that would be
15:48available to him in rounds two and three. So he went, uh, James cook, Brock Bowers.
15:53That could have been Rashid rice or a lava or Nico.
15:56If you don't want the tight end there and Devante Smith.
16:00And maybe, yeah, I mean, maybe he could have gone, whatever.
16:03It's fine. chase Brown, seventh Trey McBride, 31st and let's go.
16:07All right, Dave, you have CD lamb and Omari and Hampton.
16:10You're on the clock with the 11th pick. You're going to be up pretty soon.
16:15So what are we looking for here? I didn't like, or I don't like any of the running backs that are available at this point.
16:22It's a little disappointing because I only took one in the first round.
16:26So to Jamie's point, maybe I should have started RB RB, but there are a lot of wide receivers.
16:32I like the one I like the best is a Buka.
16:36And I'm not certain that, uh, the guy picking after me at 12 is going to take him.
16:41And so even if he does take them, there's two other wide receivers that I have about the same.
16:47And so Colson Loveland still being there. I want that advantage at tight end.
16:51I'm going to take him and know that I've got a wide receiver locked up coming back to me in round four,
16:58be it a Buka Waddle Wilson, one of those guys.
17:01All right. Colson Loveland. Good. I'm glad Dave said that.
17:04Cause it's important. Like when you put players in tears and especially like, this is a great test case for that because
17:11that manager does not have a wide receiver, you know?
17:14So it'd be one thing if it was had a wide receiver, maybe two wide receivers, then you could certainly play that route.
17:21Uh, but the fact that Dave said, I like three guys and I'm good.
17:26And then I'm going to get whatever one falls back.
17:29And I got Waddle. He took a Buka. So shows you what I know.
17:33I'm glad that he's still in demand. And if a Buka hadn't have gotten hurt, that would have been a tough decision
17:40for me between him and Loveland, because I really do believe that a Buka can have a huge year.
17:46Uh, so I guess that's a swing and a miss for me to not take a Buka, but I don't think a
17:53Loveland would have made it back to me either.
17:55So took the set of tight end, followed my tears and still got a receiver that I'm happy with as my wide
18:02receiver to other receivers on the board here. Garrett Wilson, Tedderall McMillan.
18:06Then you got like DJ more Luther burden, McLaurin.
18:09So it might be early for some of them, but you will see McMillan and you'll see Garrett Wilson go in this
18:15range, but a Buka and McConkie go at the three, four turn.
18:19So the team with the 12th pick has H and Henry, a Buka McConkie.
18:23I kind of like that team quite a bit.
18:26Dave has lamb Hampton, Loveland and Waddle. So only one running back for you.
18:31Um, who are some guys that you think you might be able to get in rounds five and six that you'd be
18:37happy with as your RB to Brooks is on the list.
18:41I don't think I, I mean, I'd be thrilled, believe it or not, I'd be thrilled if each hand and, and quinshot Judkins made it back to me.
18:49Swift made it back to me. I just don't think that they will.
18:53So I'm probably picking from a group of like facial toot and David Montgomery, Jadarian price and Brooks.
18:59And one of those guys is my RB too, is probably going to be okay with me.
19:04And, uh, I don't want to give away too much of my plan, but it's a mock.
19:09So who really cares? Yeah. I'm not opposed to taking two running backs at that point.
19:14If assuming that there's enough of them left that I like at the, uh, what would that be?
19:20Five, six turn. Yeah. And Josh Allen just went finally Josh Allen.
19:24And this is not just CBS analysts here. It was only Dave and Jamie and 10 listeners.
19:29So Josh Allen went 43rd overall. His ADP is like 20th.
19:32It's our listeners. Yeah. Yeah, it is. I know.
19:35But, but even they are showing restraint in this particular draft.
19:38Good. They should. Here's round four. McConkie Waddle. By the way, as we begin round four, the top three tight ends are off the board.
19:46Bowers going, uh, 22nd McBride going, I think 30th Loveland going 35th.
19:50One, two, three. No, I think McBride went 31st.
19:53Sorry. Yeah. Um, so round four McConkie Waddle, McMillan, Scadaboo, Brees Hall, and DJ Moore, Josh Allen.
19:58Interesting. And have more go ahead of Allen Judkins, Garrett Wilson, Terry McLaurin, Mike Evans, and Travis, a chance to finish round five.
20:05Jamie, you're almost up. I'm going to let you make your pick.
20:09And then I'm going to ask you a question here because McLaurin, Evans, DJ Moore already off the board.
20:15Burden just went big run on wide receiver here.
20:17Jamison Williams goes, you're on deck. And your team right now is Chase Jefferson, and your team right now is Chase Jefferson, Jeremiah Love, and Garrett Wilson.
20:26So you don't even need a wide receiver. Um, all right, make your pick here.
20:30The last pick was Devante Adams. So the next best wide receiver is Parker Washington.
20:35I don't think you're going to go wide receiver here.
20:38no, no, I love my receiving core. I want to get another running back because I think we're starting to see her
20:45tier, a tier drop, uh, talent drop, uh, tough to pass on Tyler Warren here.
20:50Very tough to pass on Tyler Warren there, but I think just getting the, uh, the backfield locked up.
20:55And I said this on a, on a previous show.
20:58Um, this is a very similar backfield that I think I did the other night as well.
21:04Jeremiah Love and DeAndre Swift, I think just getting, Oh no, I'm sorry.
21:08It was on the show we did on CBS sports, uh, uh, HQ.
21:12Um, I took Jeremiah Love. I took John DeSwift.
21:15Like I think getting a little bit of a safer floor running back to pair with Jeremiah Love makes some sense.
21:21So like if I passed on this and I'm coming back in, in round six, like that's typically Tony Pollard range.
21:27That's couldn't potentially be Jonathan Brooks range. Like those guys, I don't feel as comfortable as pairing them with, with Jeremiah Love.
21:34And I still think there's good enough talent at tight end that I'll find somebody.
21:39Okay. All right, Dave, I'm going to pause it after, um, after the end of round five here is Lamar Jackson goes Lamar Jackson, 56th overall.
21:47Tyler Warren went one pick after Jamie took DeAndre Swift.
21:50And Dave is in the hole right now. And we are on pick 57.
21:54Jamie's team through five rounds is chase Jefferson, Jeremiah Love, Garrett Wilson, and DeAndre Swift.
21:59We just had Christian Watson come off the board.
22:02Dave so far has Lam, Hampton, Loveland, and Waddle.
22:05So he was hoping to get Swift. It didn't happen.
22:08Jamie took him. We haven't had a running back.
22:10I knew that he wasn't going to make it back to me though.
22:14We haven't had a running back come off the board since then.
22:18The top running backs available in Dave's rankings are Bucky Irving, David Montgomery, and Bejal Tootin.
22:23Oh man. Yeah. Good. Pretty good. I'm going to get an RB two that I can live with.
22:29So Christian, we got Jason, make your pick. Hurry up.
22:32Make your pick. Oh, he made it. All right.
22:35He took, Oh, he took Bucky Irving. Is that who you wanted?
22:38See, now this is another one where Dave can either take a chance on what the manager at 12 is doing because he has two running backs.
22:47And do you like two guys that might make it back to you?
22:51Cause I doubt that he takes two. I like, I guess I like three guys.
22:55It's Montgomery. It's Tootin and it's price. But in this format, I think I'm going to lean into Montgomery.
23:01Plus I love Laporta still being here. What am I going to use Laporta for?
23:06If I have Loveland, right? Same thing with Tucker craft being there.
23:09Drake may still on the board. I think this is a good value for him.
23:14I'm just going to take the running back. I'm going to take David Montgomery.
23:18I don't see anybody who's like a screaming value at another position.
23:22So I'm just going to roll with the running back and fill Montgomery in my lineup.
23:27And what Jamie was saying was like, Dave goes into round five with one running back on his team.
23:33And Jamie was saying, if he only wants to draft one, but he likes to, then he could maybe let, let it
23:40go to the next round and hope that the guy at the end of the turn doesn't take two running backs.
23:46So it's that guy at the turn already had two running backs and he took Bejal Tootin and he took Tucker craft.
23:53So now Dave will double up at running back and he'll take David Montgomery in round five and Jadarian price in round six.
24:00So that leaves you with lamb and waddle at receiver Hampton, Montgomery and price at running back again, at half PPR league Colson, Loveland at tight end.
24:08Why did you take price over Drake may Joe Burrow?
24:11It was in the exact same spot that I was into picks ago.
24:15There wasn't a wide receiver that looked like a great value.
24:19The quarterback values were good, but based on how this draft is, how many quarterbacks have been taken so far?
24:25Two. Yeah. I know I'm going to get a good value at quarterback.
24:29I'm going to get a steal later on. So I didn't want to fill that spot as good of a value as
24:36Drake may is in early round six. I wanted to double up at running back and make sure I had some bases covered for my RB two.
24:44Do you think you got almost two full rounds before you pick again in round seven?
24:49Do you think that, um, one of Drake may Joe Burrow, Jaden Daniels, or Jalen hurts will be there.
24:55I think one of them might make it there.
24:58And if they don't, I don't care because there's still Dak Prescott and Trevor Lawrence and Justin Herbert, Caleb Williams.
25:04I get that. But do if one of them is there, do you think it's going to make it, it's going to
25:11make it hard for me to pass them up if they're there in round seven, especially knowing that the drafter at 12 does not have a quarterback.
25:19So if there's one left, I'm probably going to take that quarterback.
25:23Okay. Um, all right. I want to make a broader point here.
25:27Jamie, what I was going to ask you about was like, why do you think the wide receivers, DJ Moore, uh, McLaurin,
25:33Evans, Adams, not necessarily Adams, but the old guys.
25:36Yeah. Why do you think they went in round four?
25:39Because when we were doing the wide receiver preview, you weren't there for this, but we were kind of saying it was like 26, just 26 ish guys.
25:48We want two of them. And when I look at ADP, I see Mike Evans is always available.
25:53Like at the end of round five. So if you're pat a late pick, you didn't really get a chance to take
26:00that second guy in this particular draft. You didn't get a chance to take that top 26 guy, that second guy late
26:07in the sec in the fifth round. It's just, I don't know.
26:11The wide receivers went earlier than ADP. Why do you think that is?
26:15Three receiver league probably has something to do with it.
26:18You know, I think that sort of pushes the players up.
26:21I mean, I think when you start to get into wide receiver, 16, 17, 18 range, you know, there's so many different
26:28lists that have different players on it. Different rank lists have different players on it.
26:33You know, so like, I don't know where Jacob, for example, I know he was very high on Mike Evans.
26:39If he's still as higher Dan, I know he was also, you know, is that a guy that's in the late teens, early twenties?
26:46I like DJ more ahead of consensus. So like for me, he's around four pick.
26:51I take him in round four almost every time.
26:54Screw the guy, whoever did it in this draft.
26:56You know, so like Dave likes Jalen Waddle ahead of consensus, you know, so there, there's different ways, you know, you sort of look at this.
27:04And so I'm going to guess like the longer Puka Nakua is out, we're going to see Devante Adams rise a few spots.
27:12We'll probably see Chris Olave rises a spot or two, like you alluded to.
27:16So there's going to be a lot, a lot of movement, I think with those guys, but I think, you know, format matters here.
27:23And again, we're, we're only seeing, you know, to just judge ADP, we're only seeing two quarterbacks here.
27:29Usually by this point, there's six quarterbacks that are gone.
27:32If you're just going by ADP, you know, there's the top six going the first 50.
27:37Right. And based on last night, Jamie, how excited were you to draft in round?
27:41I'd actually don't care about the answer. I just haven't played the drop in a few weeks.
27:47So there we go. I mean, I was so excited until that.
27:50Listen, he's, he's going to probably get overdrafted after that, you know, which is natural because, you know, you get confirmation bias one with the other.
27:58I love Darren. I love, I think he's going to be great.
28:02And then you see this like, holy bleep, I'm taking him in, you know, mid round two, as opposed to late round two or early round three.
28:11This is exactly where I took him in the last two drafts where I've taken him is the fourth pick of round three, you know?
28:18And so the earliest I would take him is at the turn.
28:22I've seen him go late round two. It's totally understandable.
28:25You know, again, when you look at it, that run of running backs ends at either Ken Walker, Saquon Barkley, uh, or
28:32Derek Henry, you know, those three guys are at the back end of the top 12.
28:37And so once that drop off hits, it's love Jacobs, Kyron Williams.
28:40That's the next three guys. As I said to you on, on express, I was leaning that way already because of Jacobs concerns and Kyron's, um, sharing.
28:49And so if two guys are going to share, I think Jeremiah loves ceiling is higher if he hits.
28:55So I'll take the chance on that. And so that just, again, push that a little bit more in that direction.
29:01I think maybe should we put Javante Williams in that group?
29:05You said love Jacobs, Kyron, you can, but you're hearing, you know, again, take it for what it's worth.
29:10Jaden blue, getting more opportunities, taking more advantage of a situation.
29:14Malik Davis, I still think is going to get some work.
29:17It's not the same caliber of backups like a Tyler Algier or a Blake Corum, or even now Marshawn Lloyd.
29:23But yes, Javante Williams has put himself in round three.
29:26Again, you ask Heath, he'll say Brees Hall belongs in round three.
29:30All these guys, you know, that next group for me, at least they're bunched up together also sort of knocking on the
29:37door of that tier that I have of love Kyron and Jacob.
29:41So I think you could almost start to, you know, group them together and there'll probably be a player or two that
29:47has a strong preseason that puts himself in that category as well.
29:51You know, it could be David Montgomery. It could be Cam Scatterboot.
29:55It could be Quinchon Judkins, you know, any of these guys that are sort of in that next Bucky Irving.
30:01If it's just, Hey, look, it's Bucky's job and nobody's, you know, you know, Kenneth Gamewell is just working on passing downs and he looks awesome.
30:09Bucky will fly up there as well. So there's just a lot of different ways I think you can go.
30:15I want to spend more time at some point on Javante Williams.
30:19I feel like this is a player that for whatever reason, we just haven't done like a deep dive on him.
30:25Maybe we'll do a separate five minute video because there are some stats.
30:29First thing that you should know just, and I'll move on.
30:33He was the number 12 running back per game in PPR, number 10 per game in non PPR, but he had a stinger Javante Williams in December.
30:41And in his last three games, he played 29%, 57% and 27% of the snaps.
30:46So before that, he was the number eight running back per game.
30:50A late season stinger really affected Javante Williams per game stats.
30:53The other thing I would mention is that in his last eight games from weeks nine through 17, he was on pace
31:00for 36 targets, exactly half as many targets as he was on pace for in the first eight games of the year.
31:07It goes from a 72 target pace, to a 36 target pace, a huge difference, obviously.
31:11But we'll come back to him some other time, Dave.
31:15So talking about, you know, trying to get to top 26 wide receivers and not being able to do it in this draft.
31:22If you had a late pick in round, in round one, if you didn't, if you didn't take two in the first
31:28four rounds, you didn't get that chance in the fifth round.
31:32But there were a few teams that did not take.
31:35So I think there were actually only two teams that didn't take two wide receivers with their first four picks.
31:41So let's look at those teams. That would be team six, which was Amon Ross St.
31:46Brown's Otonio. Amon Ross St. Brown, Kenneth Walker, Javante Williams, Josh Allen.
31:50He just couldn't pass up Allen 43rd overall. And then he took Roma Dunze as his wide receiver too.
31:56How do you feel about that build so far?
31:58It's Amon Ross St. Brown, Kenneth Walker, Javante Williams, Josh Allen, Romo Dunze, and a three receiver half PPR league.
32:05So the price you paid for taking Josh Allen in round four was having Romo Dunze as your number two wide receiver.
32:11And my guess is that Otonio is going to go and get more wide receivers and try and bulk up the depth
32:18there so that he can field two quality starters every week.
32:22If not three, because of the flex, I have no problem with that.
32:26I don't think he made a misstep at all.
32:28I am going to ask you specific this draft.
32:31Would you rather have Josh Allen and Romo Dunze or Garrett Wilson and Lamar Jackson?
32:36Garrett Wilson and Lamar Jackson. Yeah, I think I would say that.
32:39Now that's an easy one, I think, but what if we use more?
32:43Yeah, that's, that's absolutely what I should say. What if we use more ADP instead of what happened in this draft?
32:50And I'll ask you, would you rather have Lamar Jackson and Romo Dunze or Garrett Wilson and Drake May?
32:56Garrett Wilson and Drake. Okay. So just some, some perspectives.
32:59Right. Bigger drop off from Wilson to Dunze than there is from Allen to Jackson or Jackson to May.
33:05Round five was Burden, Jameson Williams, Devante Adams, DeAndre Swift to Jamie as his RB2.
33:09Tyler Warren as the fourth tight end off the board, 53rd overall.
33:13Roma Dunze, Parker Washington, 55th overall, seventh pick of round five.
33:17Lamar Jackson, the second quarterback off the board and only two so far.
33:21Christian, as we continue into round six, Christian Watson, Bucky Irving, pardon me, Bucky Irving, David Montgomery, Bejal Tootin.
33:26That's the end of round five. So obviously the drafters have decided wide receivers have gone a little crazy.
33:32Let's get back to running backs for the next five picks beginning with, with Dave's pick of Bucky Irving, David Montgomery, Bejal Tootin to end round five.
33:41Tucker Craft in round six, Jadari and Price in round six.
33:44To Dave, and let's get back to it. Jason, you are on the clock.
33:48Jason's team with the 10th pick, even though his team name is Team 12, which is my fault.
33:54Christian McCaffrey, Drake London, Kyron Williams, Teterola McMillan, and Bucky Irving.
33:57I actually feel like this is kind of a safe team other than McCaffrey.
34:02And then he goes with Brian Thomas, Jr. Do we like that team?
34:06That is three running backs and three receivers, McCaffrey, Kyron, and Bucky London, Teterola McMillan, Brian Thomas, Jr.
34:11Yeah, it's all, it's a playoff team, like fifth seed.
34:14I mean, it's a superstar team if McCaffrey is McCaffrey.
34:17Yeah, that's true. I mean, that's so McCaffrey is going to carry you.
34:21Jonathan Brooks going 64th overall. Another team, Rob Thomas's team picking ninth, three receivers, three running backs.
34:27So he has Taylor, Scadaboo, and Brooks, A.J. Brown, Zay Flowers, Christian Watson.
34:31Do we like this team? Yeah, very much. I don't know about the team.
34:35I think talking about Brooks going round six, pick four is worth discussing.
34:39Yes. Because I think we're eventually going to get to a point where he might be getting overdrafted.
34:45It's not like Chuba's done for the year. And I'd be surprised if Jonathan Brooks gets everything in this Panthers backfield.
34:51And we all know what the risks are injury wise with him.
34:55I think he's absolutely worth a pick in round seven, late round six.
34:59We talked about that on sports network. I'm good with that too.
35:02How many players, and maybe this is a good time to look at what's left on the draft board.
35:08How many players that are going after Brooks would you have rather had?
35:12And I think it's smart to include some of the quarterbacks.
35:16And taking the lottery ticket on Brooks, is that a better move than taking Drake May?
35:21Is that better than taking Joe Burrow? Is it better than even Laporta?
35:25Who's got a little bit of an injury risk himself, but we're expecting a huge year from.
35:30And I think I'd rather have the quarterbacks. I'm not sure if I necessarily would stand on Laporta over Jonathan Brooks because the upside with Brooks is huge.
35:39But this is about the range where I think we're going to start to see Jonathan Brooks go as of Friday at 10 a.m.
35:46If he has a huge run, when do they play in their preseason game?
35:50It's Saturday at 1 o'clock. If he has a huge run in that game, you're going to see him go into round
35:57five, and people are going to get too excited.
36:00And that's when I might get nervous about his value.
36:03So he seems like the annual rocket riser in ADP where people just can't wait to get their hands on him, and
36:10maybe he goes a little too soon than he should.
36:13So when I was updating my rankings, the guy that I put him ahead of is the guy that you took in Jadarian Price.
36:20And almost for a lot of the same reasons you said about Brooks, I think you can make a lot of the same questions about Price.
36:28That's fair. I think when we see it's an unproven player, it's a great opportunity.
36:33It's potential sharing at some point, maybe with two or three guys, depending on what they think of Helani and when Charbonnet comes back.
36:40And so I could see Brooks, if he's right, being amazing.
36:44I could see him being in a tandem. I could see Hubbard being better.
36:48So there's just questions for me for both. So I actually love the spot where Brooks went.
36:53And you're not taking Brooks ahead of Price? I would take Brooks ahead of Price, yes.
36:58Okay. Yeah, I'm not there yet, but it's going to be an interesting discussion point for sure.
37:04I mean, we are talking about a guy that's played like most of one season in his last five years in Jonathan Brooks.
37:11And he's similar to Price. They didn't really get a ton of work in college.
37:15Right. But one of the guys had two ACL injuries and the other guy, the reason why he didn't get work was because he was behind Jeremiah Love.
37:24And Brooks for a year was behind B. John Robinson.
37:27So Brooks, I think it's 20, 23 was pretty impressive.
37:30Yeah, it was. Until he got hurt. Okay. So we got to take a break here.
37:35I would say that I haven't told you anybody who's gone after Jonathan Brooks, but other than the quarterbacks, I don't think
37:42there's anyone on the board that's going to get taken after Brooks or you're going, oh, he's definitely going to be better.
37:49I mean, Tony Pollard, Rico Dowdle, J.K. Dobbins, Ramondre Stevenson, Sam Laporta, Chris Godwin, Carnell Tate, Marvin Harrison Jr.
37:54You can see why Jonathan Brooks makes sense at this point.
37:58But like Dave said, it's not like Chuba Hubbard's out for the year.
38:02We still have not quite a month, but I assume Chuba Hubbard's going to be back before week one.
38:08So. Well, I wouldn't assume before week one. I mean, it sounds like, I mean, Canal said we'll play week one, but that's clearly, you know, hamstring injuries.
38:16We know what those are like. So it could be worse than that.
38:20All right. It could be like six weeks. And if that's the case, that's what week three or something like that.
38:27It's not a season. Yeah. I think just in the case of both these guys, there was clearly enough reason.
38:33We all had Brooks ranked ahead of Hubbard prior to the hamstring injury.
38:37Like the, the momentum was certainly pushing everything in that direction.
38:41Yeah. For what we were advising people. Now drafting, not the case.
38:44You had Brooks still going in round nine and you had Hubbard going in round seven.
38:49So at what point were they going to cross paths?
38:52I don't know. Now this is just enough reason to say, okay, I'm going to take the younger, more exciting player that if he's right.
39:00And remember ACL used to be a two year injury, two years and that guy is back to being what he was.
39:07If that's the case, then I think Jonathan Brooks could be amazing.
39:10It certainly gives him an opportunity to gain some momentum here and stake his claim as the lead back.
39:16All right. We got to take a break. I'm going to pause the draft after two more picks and we'll catch you up on rounds six and seven.
39:25We have a lot of picks. We had a quarterback run.
39:28Four of them came off the board since that Jonathan Brooks.
39:32Five came off the board. We have a tight end run.
39:35Three of them in round seven. So we will take a break from not only the show, but the draft as well
39:42and come back and update you on round six and seven of this half PPR three receiver league.
39:48We'll be right back. Welcome back, everybody. Hope you are excited for a fun weekend and starting to get some drafts going soon.
39:55And I hope you've been enjoying the show. Been doing a lot of content.
39:59The mailbag coming up later today. I don't know why I'm filibustering here.
40:03Let's just get right back to it. Yeah, I feel like I haven't been personable at all.
40:08Like I hope everyone's doing great. All right. So round six was Tucker Craft, Jadarian Price, Brian Thomas Jr., who went one,
40:15two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine picks after Parker Washington.
40:19Then Jonathan Brooks, Marvin Harrison Jr., who went about 12 picks before Michael Wilson.
40:23Just taking a quick look at it. But Carnell Tate, the Titans were so pathetically bad last night.
40:29It was gross. I mean, are you going to downgrade Carnell Tate based on what we saw last night and maybe upgrade
40:35Wondell Robinson, the only guy that seemed like any chemistry existed between him and Cam Ward?
40:40Dave? Well, Ridley had the nice catch on the crosser.
40:43I'm not ready to downgrade Tate too much after last night, but I don't think he looked particularly good just even running his routes.
40:51He was very hot and cold when it came to just even having solid acceleration.
40:55And that makes me nervous. I want to give the Titans another chance, but it is concerning.
41:01And this is the thing that concerns me the most.
41:04That offensive line went up against 49er second stringers and Cam Ward was pressured.
41:08That's a problem. Yeah. Yeah. And he made some really bad decisions.
41:12He was off target on a bunch of slant throws.
41:15Yeah. He was just off today, off yesterday. All right.
41:18Carnell Tate, then J.K. Dobbins, 67th overall. Too early?
41:21That's a little nuts. Yes. Yeah. Rico Dowdle. Jamie, I know you like Warren better than Dowdle in PPR.
41:27Dave likes Dowdle better. Half PPR, which Steelers running back do you prefer?
41:31Dowdle. Okay. Tony Pollard. Jamie took Tony Pollard as his third running back, so that gave him Chase Jefferson and Garrett Wilson at receiver.
41:38Jeremiah, I mean, Jeremiah, DeAndre Swift and Tony Pollard at running back.
41:42And I think you were probably pretty, would you have taken Dowdle or Pollard?
41:46I would take Pollard. Okay. Then we have Joe Burrow, Sam Laporta, Chris Godwin, 72nd overall.
41:51How do we feel about that? Love it. Like it.
41:54Would love it if it were full PPR. Drake May, Dak Prescott, Ramondre, Stevenson, Jaden Daniels.
41:59Those are the first four picks of round seven.
42:02Drake May, Dak Prescott, Ramondre Stevenson, and Jaden Daniels.
42:05So that means in a span of seven picks, we had four quarterbacks.
42:09Burrow, May, Prescott, and Daniels. We had Stevenson in between that.
42:12Jamie took Jaden Daniels, so he doesn't have a tight end, but he has three running backs, three receivers, and Jaden Daniels.
42:19Travion Henderson goes two picks after Ramondre Stevenson. How about that?
42:22What do you think? Yeah. Have it ranked that way.
42:25Okay. Michael Wilson. Do you like Marvin Harrison in round six or Michael Wilson in round seven?
42:31Wilson. Kyle Pitts, Isaiah Likely, Harold Fannin Jr. Three straight tight ends there.
42:35Now, the only thing I don't like about the Pitts pick is, Pat, you had Trey McBride.
42:40What are you taking Kyle Pitts for? Fair enough.
42:43Kyle Pitts, Isaiah Likely, Harold Fannin Jr. That screws things up for one manager who wanted to wait on tight end.
42:49Josh Downs goes 82nd overall. How do we feel about that pick?
42:53Love it. I'm okay with it. I wish it were full PPR.
42:57And then we get Jalen Hurts to Dave, and that was a situation where Burrow, May, Prescott, and Daniels had come off
43:03the board, and he knew that the guy picking 12th, Big Mike, did not have a quarterback, so Dave took Jalen Hurts.
43:10Big Mike then took DK Metcalf, and then we took a break from the draft, and we are resuming.
43:16All right, Big Mike on the clock with A-Chan, Henry, Abuka, McConkie, Tootin, Tucker Craft, and DK Metcalf.
43:22I don't like the Metcalf pick, but I'm pretty much never going to like the Metcalf pick.
43:2784th isn't so bad. Could have gone with Alec Pierce or Addison or Wandale or Sutton.
43:32He takes Justin Herbert. Dave takes Alec. He's got a great draft though before Metcalf, like crushing it.
43:37A-Chan, Henry, Abuka, McConkie, Tootin, Kraft. Yeah, and I'm not the biggest A-Chan fan there, but I think just the build Dave takes Alec Pierce.
43:45All right, why'd you take the injured Alec Pierce?
43:48I need receivers. I've done a nice job drafting every other position so far.
43:52I only had two receivers, Lamb and Waddell, and I needed to start collecting guys that have some upside to be my third receiver.
44:00And right now, Alec Pierce isn't practicing, but we've got a month to go before week one.
44:05Hopefully, he's back out there and hopefully, he can contribute as a wide receiver three.
44:09And when you have a team like Dave's at pick 11 and you already have Loveland and Hurts, you got your quarterback,
44:16you got your tight end, the rest of this draft is probably going to be spent on running backs and receivers, which
44:23is a nice luxury to just sit there and pick some of your favorite sleepers, basically.
44:28All right, Jamie, look at this run of running backs here with Monongai, Jalen Warren, and Jordan Mason.
44:33And that's a lot earlier, 89th, a lot earlier than Mason's ADP.
44:37Your thoughts? I love Mason. That was somebody I was going to consider if he got back to me.
44:43I'd take him in a lot of drafts at this point and have been taking him ahead of what the ADP is.
44:50But this is the high upside type of players that you want.
44:54So Corum, Monongai, Jalen Warren, I think is good value here.
44:57So really solid picks. And for Team 12, who's picking 10th, to have McCaffrey, Kyron Williams, and Bucky Irving in rounds 1, 3, and 5, respectively.
45:05And then he takes Kyle Monongai instead of Jordan Mason.
45:08And I think that, to me, that makes sense, right?
45:11You've got three running backs. The guy who took Mason only had two running backs.
45:16So Mason might be better than Monongai on a week-to-week basis.
45:19But if Aaron Jones gets hurt in Minnesota and DeAndre Swift gets hurt in Chicago, I think we're going to like Monongai a lot more than Mason.
45:28So if you're coming at that round 8 pick with three running backs that you can start, then you take the Monongai, right?
45:35You take the guy who has major injury upside.
45:37If you're going into round 8 with two running backs that you can start, then maybe you take Jordan, and Monongai was
45:44off the board but you could have taken Corum there.
45:47Maybe you take Jordan Mason, get kind of a safer guy he might be able to use more consistently on a week-to-week basis.
45:54Yeah, it just comes down to whether or not you need a starter.
45:58Exactly. Monongai Warren Mason, after that we had Cortland Sutton and Jaden Reed.
46:02Nice one drive for Jaden Reed and two targets last night.
46:06So he still exists even though he's not going to play in two receiver sets.
46:10Here's Chuba Hubbard 92nd overall. So Jonathan Brooks 64th, Chuba Hubbard 92nd.
46:14Jamie, quick thought there. Again, I think Hubbard's going to end up being a really good value pick because like you said,
46:21he's not out for the season and I think he'll still have a role.
46:25You know, you hope that he's not the guy that we saw last year which was, you know, very frustrating to watch
46:32and deal with because of what Rico Dowell did.
46:35So, oh, that hurts. I was going to take Corum.
46:38You know, and just hopefully he's not out for an extended period of time.
46:42All right. Chuba Hubbard 92nd. Then we had Quentin Johnston to Jamie.
46:46Is he... Hey, Jamie, congratulations. You got your charger.
46:49I always got to get a charger. Jordan Tyson going 94th.
46:52Dave, what do you think about that? This is about the range for Tyson to go at this point.
46:58You're looking for the upside when he does eventually get healthy and acclimated to the Saints offense.
47:03The fact that he has another hamstring injury, this is the third time he's been sidelined with a hamstring injury since the end of the college football season.
47:12That makes me nervous and it also makes me wonder if the Saints are just going to let him take his time coming back from it.
47:20We don't know just how severe it is. I don't think it's terribly severe and I think if you're drafting Tyson, you've
47:27got to be in it for the long haul.
47:30You can't draft him and then after three weeks he doesn't do anything.
47:34You go, I'm going to cut him. Don't do that.
47:37I think the second half of the season he could be pretty good for the Saints provided that he's actually there in the second half of the season.
47:45All right, we got Tyson at 94 and then RJ Harvey at 95.
47:49We still had Ja'Cory Krosky Merritt, Blake Corum on the board.
47:53Jamie, was RJ Harvey at 95 reach? I mean, not the round value but the running backs that were still there, I'd prefer Corum.
48:00I'd prefer Gainwell. I'd prefer Krosky Merritt. You know, look, Harvey was so good last year at the end of the season.
48:07J.K. Dobbins was hurt. It was a lot of touchdowns.
48:10Now Jonah Coleman's here. I just don't think he's going to have the same type of opportunities and let both guys get hurt.
48:17So then we have Ja'Cory Krosky Merritt after that and then we have Dajon Stribling after his performance last night, Dave.
48:24First pick of round nine, 97th overall. Way too soon.
48:27I thought that Stribling had a great catch, that deep ball that he tracked and brought in with those long arms.
48:33That was awesome. There were some things that he did that I didn't like.
48:37I don't like him stepping out of bounds in the back of the end zone when he could have been targeted for a touchdown.
48:45I thought it was weird that they said that his foot wasn't out of bounds on that one sideline catch they had
48:52when it was pretty clear that his foot was out of bounds.
48:55I think he can be good. I think he's going to need somebody to miss significant time in San Francisco in order
49:02for him to be worth taking at this point in the draft.
49:06Yeah, he played a lot in the slot yesterday, which is going to be Depot Samuel's role when he's on the field.
49:13Maybe. I mean, maybe they consider Stribling in the slot sometimes too.
49:16You're allowed to line up multiple players in the slot.
49:19So you can do that. Jacoby Myers goes after Stribling.
49:23So in the round nine, it's Stribling, Myers, Blake Corum, Kenneth Gainwell, Stefan Diggs, Chris Rodriguez.
49:27And I will, I will note that I don't, unless you guys want to take a look, I don't see any tandem backfields here.
49:35I don't see anybody who has two players on the same backfield.
49:39Like the Corum manager is not the Kyra manager.
49:41The Monongai manager is not the Swift manager and so on.
49:45The two managers not the Rodriguez manager. Diggs at 101.
49:48I love that pick. Yep. And that's a guy who went receiver, receiver, receiver, JSN, Pickens, neighbors, then went five straight rounds
49:55without a receiver and got Stefan Diggs as his wide receiver four.
49:58His running backs are Judkins, Dowdle, Travion, and Hubbard.
50:01If Dowdle had been Pollard, I'd probably like this team more, but hey, maybe Dowdle will be better than Pollard.
50:07After Diggs, it was Chris Rodriguez, Jordan Addison, Michael Pittman, Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence, quarterbacks nine and ten.
50:13Dave, you took KC Concepcion as you're trying to build out your receivers, which are Lamb, Waddle, Pierce, and now Concepcion in round nine.
50:20Had to give up on Kittle and Mahomes because those guys would be luxury picks.
50:25They wouldn't necessarily start for me. Oh, you're on the clock.
50:28And I needed wide receivers. Yeah, reset my clock, please.
50:31No. Fine, then we'll just let it auto-pick me.
50:34It's a mock. It doesn't matter. And so now I'm faced with, do I take some depth at running back with Rashad
50:41White or do I continue to hammer the receiver position?
50:44Wandale Robinson, Jalen Coker, Matthew Golden. Those are my top three guys.
50:48Can I ask you a quick question? Are you considering Keaton Mitchell?
50:51No, not yet. Okay. If someone else takes him, that's fine.
50:55I can live with it. I'm going to take Golden.
50:58I'm looking for upside at wide receiver. I need to find a wide receiver three, especially if Pierce isn't ready to start the season.
51:05I do love Concepcion. I don't have a problem taking him where I took him in late round nine, but getting Golden too.
51:12I think now I've got enough at wide receiver between Pierce, Concepcion, and Golden.
51:17I should have one starter. Yeah. Hopefully I've got two and now I don't feel the stress to like fill that wide receiver position anymore.
51:25So Debo Samuel was the first pick of round 10.
51:28Aaron Jones was the last pick of round nine.
51:30So when after Dave took Concepcion, it was Aaron Jones, Debo Samuel, Matthew Golden, back to Dave.
51:36Dallas Goddard, Makai Lemon, couple of Eagles. Patrick Mahomes to the Lamar Jackson manager just felt like I can't pass up Patrick Mahomes anymore at 113.
51:44Tyrone Tracy to the Saquon Barkley manager, but not the Scadaboo manager.
51:47So Tracy, not a handcuff. And that is only the third running back for Pat.
51:52He went Chase Brown, Saquon Barkley. And that's why I don't like the Pitts pick, right?
51:57Like you went sick. You went Brown, Barkley, Trey McBride, DJ Moore.
52:01You got, I think a little unlucky with the wide receiver run after DJ Moore.
52:05So Parker Washington in round five, which could be great.
52:08Carnell Tate in round six, Kyle Pitts, Cortland Sutton, Jordan Addison.
52:12Personally, I would not have waited that long to take my RB three if I went Brown, Barkley in rounds one and two.
52:19It didn't take another running back until Tracy in round 10.
52:22But, you know, I just wouldn't have two tight ends in this build.
52:26Jalen Coker after Tracy. I love that. Yeah. I'm sure you were targeting him.
52:31I was. I mean, I got lucky with Wondell falling to me, but I was excited about Coker.
52:36So you would have taken Coker over Wondell? In this format, yeah.
52:40Half PPR. Not in full? Full, no. Wondell for sure.
52:43Rashad White goes in between Coker and Wondell. So it goes Coker, Rashad White, Wondell Robinson, Keaton Mitchell, Xavier Worthy, and Travis Kelsey.
52:50A couple of teams. We have three chiefs. Those guys were going in round five last year, basically.
52:56Mahomes, Kelsey, and Worthy. This year they go, or this draft, they go in round 10.
53:01And I got to scroll down here on this draft page.
53:04Hold on. Bear with me, folks. How many rounds are we going?
53:08Here we go. 13 rounds. Three more rounds. Zach Charbonnet in round 11.
53:12But yeah, in general, Dave, what do you think about, well actually, let's get Jamie here.
53:17He's about to be on the clock. So Charbonnet goes, then Woody Marks goes.
53:21Jamie is on deck. He has Garrett, oh, sorry, let me scroll up for Jamie's team here.
53:26He has Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Jeremiah Love, Garrett Wilson.
53:29Terrific. DeAndre Swift, terrific. Tony Pollard, terrific. You are killing it.
53:33Jaden Daniels, phenomenal. Quentin Johnston, Kenneth Gainwell, Wondell Robinson.
53:35Who'd you go with in round 11? George Kittle.
53:38All right, this team is nasty. It was a gamble.
53:41It was a little bit of a gamble because only one manager after, two managers after me had tight ends and I
53:48didn't know if somebody would go back to back or somebody would take Kittle and Kelsey or somebody would take both of them.
53:55So it was a gamble to take Wondell but I was like, you know what, if I miss on Kittle or Kelsey, I'll make do.
54:03It worked out great. Oh man, that's a good point.
54:06All right, so Jamie, with the fourth pick going into round 11, no, going into round 10, he had Chase, Jefferson, Garrett Wilson and Quentin Johnston.
54:14He did not have a tight end. He has three teams picking before his next pick in round 11.
54:20One of them doesn't have a tight end. There are two tight ends on the board that he likes, Kelsey and Kittle.
54:27I think I would have played it safe and gone with the tight end because yeah, I could see one of those
54:34three managers taking a second tight end there. It didn't happen.
54:37I think you made a mistake taking Wandao and you got lucky, buddy.
54:41I mean, that's part of it. It's understanding what could happen and this is where you hear me say this for 20 years, know your league.
54:49I don't know this league. So it was a gamble.
54:52So if I had known the people I'm drafting with, oh yeah, they may take the upside of Kittle or Kelsey if they have a tight end.
55:00It was what? Loveland and, I'm sorry, it was Laporta.
55:03Who was the other manager that has a tight end?
55:07Was McBride? Bowers. Bowers, you know, so that was a gamble worth taking.
55:11All right, well, it worked out for you and you get Kittle and then let's see what happened after that.
55:17Kittle, Jaden Higgins, oh, it was just before Kittle, pardon me.
55:20Jared Goff. Yeah, when you started reading off my team, I was like, he's going to say I don't have a tight end.
55:27The guy's going to take a tight end. Jared Goff, Rashid Shahid, Isaiah Pacheco, brilliant pick.
55:32Jalen Naylor, Romeo Dobbs, Denzel Boston, Marshawn Lloyd, Dontavian Wicks.
55:35Denzel Boston now reminds me of my daughter because she loves that song Boston by Stella Lefty.
55:41You guys know that song? On a train back to Boston.
55:44No, you don't know that song? Interesting that a plus-size receiver out of Washington reminds you of your daughter.
55:50I mean, what'd you guys, that song is so popular.
55:53Is your daughter tall? So popular. No, she's related to me.
55:56Got tall? anyway, Marshawn Lloyd to Dave, clearly the handcuff for Jacobs.
56:00Dontavian Wicks, Khalil Shakir. Dave, you're on the clock.
56:03I don't really love anybody that's a pretty still there.
56:06He's an interesting sleeper. I'm going to just take a guy that I'm drafting late in a lot of leagues and that's
56:13Jonah Coleman on the hunch that Dobbins doesn't last the season.
56:16Coleman comes in and works as the lead back for Denver.
56:19That's an awesome offensive line. It's a pick I'm going to have to be patient with, but Coleman is somebody who I've been targeting late.
56:27On the subject, you were thinking about taking Purdy and you already had Jalen Hurts.
56:32Right. And there's so many other quarterbacks left. Stafford, Dart, we mentioned Purdy, Jordan Love, Bo Nix, Malik Willis.
56:38I feel like I can wait. If I wanted to get a second quarterback, I can wait.
56:43Jamie, was it on Tuesday night where we saw Jackson Dart fall also?
56:47Yeah, I mean, look, he's in that mix of QB 10 through QB 15.
56:51I would take him over Mahomes. I would take him over Stafford.
56:55I would take him over Goff. I think there's more upside, but there's certainly much more downside.
57:00Yeah, it's obviously a very small sample size just the last two drafts that we've done, but I wonder if people are
57:07going to start to downgrade him because of all the bad reports.
57:11And Dave and I compared this on, what was it, on Express yesterday?
57:15Maybe. Last year, Caleb Williams was struggling this time of year.
57:18Yes. Right? This was a guy who had a new offensive coordinator going into his second year and he just wasn't there.
57:25Same exact situation for Jackson Dart. Difference being Caleb Williams, to me, a much better passer than Jackson Dart, but...
57:31Better coordinator too. Better coordinator, yeah. I think people are very hung up on Matt Nagy being his play caller and I think it's deserved.
57:39The bigger issue for me with Dart is that I don't think he does what he did rushing last year.
57:45Yeah. We talked about it. Nine rushing touchdowns I don't think is repeatable.
57:49He hasn't had neighbors yet. Neighbors did team drills yesterday for the first time.
57:53He is continuing to make progress. It's exciting. Here's round 12.
57:57Shakir, Jonah Coleman, Tank Bigsby, Tyler Algier, Ray Davis.
58:00I'm just wondering where's the Barkley team? Sorry. Let me scroll up.
58:03The Barkley team is that team. It's Pat's team who had the seventh pick.
58:08He took Chase Brown and Saquon Barkley and then he took Tyrone Tracy in round 10.
58:12Isaiah Pacheco in round 11. Would you have taken Tank Bigsby in round 11 instead of Pacheco?
58:18Yep. I wouldn't have made it a priority. Okay.
58:21Yeah, you know what? I wouldn't have taken him there either but I would have much rather waited for Bigsby than draft Pacheco.
58:28Sorry, Adam. I know that he's your favorite 3% of budget buy.
58:31He was before this MCL sprain. I don't know that he's going to be any good.
58:36He's a guy who had an injury more serious than an MCL sprain.
58:40But wait, was the MCL or was it the PCL that Bowers in London had last year?
58:46PCL. Okay. I mean, an MCL sprain, he could come back and just not be that effective even if he does get opposite.
58:53We've seen people struggle coming back from that too.
58:55Shakir Coleman, Bigsby, Algier, Ray Davis, Matthew Stafford, Malik Washington or is that Mike Washington?
59:00It's Mike Washington. Mike. Tankdale, Tyje Spears, Alvin Kamara, Dylan Sampson, Brock Purdy.
59:04That's round 12. A lot of backup running backs here.
59:07Tyje Spears is a guy that's going to play.
59:10And it was you. It was the Pollard manager.
59:13It was Jamie who took Spears. So, Dalton Kincaid to the Kelsey manager, Trey Tucker.
59:17Did we find out anything about Tucker versus Naylor yesterday?
59:20No. They both, I think, played the most with cousins.
59:24And that's really about it. Tucker had two targets.
59:26Naylor did not have any, but we don't go off of that.
59:30Damond Claiborne, Mark Andrews, Jackson Dart to the golf manager.
59:33So, to come out of a draft with golf in round 11 and dart in round 13, you got to feel pretty good about that.
59:41Jalen McMillan, Malik Washington. Why take Malik Washington over Caleb Douglas right now?
59:45I don't understand that. Ask Dave. Dave likes Malik Washington.
59:48Because I think Malik Washington is going to end up being better.
59:52Yeah. Douglas is making the headlines and I know that he can be good, but Washington is the one who's got better limited upside though.
59:59Rhythm. I don't know if anybody has upside in that offense.
60:03That's the problem when it comes to the receivers there.
60:06But with Washington, I think Washington can consistently get in the neighborhood of six targets a game.
60:11I don't know if they're going to necessarily be on an eight out of ten yards, but I think he can get more.
60:18So right now, I've got Washington out of Douglas.
60:21Well, they went back to back. Malik Washington, 151st.
60:24Caleb Douglas, 152nd. Ryan Flannoy, 153rd. We've got three picks left, people.
60:27How about this? 13-round draft in an hour with a bunch of stoppages.
60:31Well done. The pick is in. It is Brian Robinson.
60:35Funny how this group can do a draft with 40 seconds on the clock and our staff cannot.
60:40I know, right? Good job, everybody. Dave takes Malik Willis as his backup to Jalen Hurts.
60:45And the last pick, Mr. Irrelevant, is Cyrus Allen.
60:48Interesting pick. Interesting. Cool. Not bad. Chiefs rookie wide receiver.
60:51Well, I want to thank all of our participants.
60:54I probably should have shouted them out earlier, right?
60:56Idiot, I am. Shane, Mark, Ty, Jamie, Brad, Autumn, Pat, John, Robert, Jason, Dave, and Michael.
61:01Great job. Great draft, everyone. Good stuff. Thank you all for watching and listening.
61:06Go crush in your drafts this weekend, guys. And we've got a mailbag coming up in just a little bit.
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