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Buy Low & Sell High Trade Targets Ahead of Week 3 + Worry-O-Meter (09/23 Fantasy Football Podcast)
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1 hr 13 min
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Sep 23, 2026
Published
Wed, September 23, 2026
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Player insights
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Players mentioned
Topics
De'Von AchaneBrock BowersD.J. MooreDavante AdamsDrake LondonJameson WilliamsStefon DiggsTucker KraftA.J. BrownAustin EkelerBrandin CooksBucky IrvingChuba HubbardColby Parkinson
Player analysis
Player insights
A.J. Brown
PositiveInjury25:28
The source is hesitant to value AJ Brown as a top-tier asset due to the severity of his high ankle sprain, noting the team also lost their right tackle. While he is a buy-low target for teams with playoff aspirations, the source is concerned about his performance floor upon return and would not trade high-upside players like Jalen Coker for him straight up.
Insight pageAustin Ekeler
NegativeUsage28:56
The Panthers are working out Austin Ekeler, but the source does not believe this should concern fantasy managers of Chuba Hubbard.
Insight pageBrandin Cooks
NegativeDepth Chart15:39
San Francisco signed Brandon Cooks to the practice squad, a move the source believes is more related to DeMarcus Robinson than Mike Evans.
Insight pageBrock Bowers
PositiveInjury18:22
Brock Bowers is expected to play this week according to Ian Rapoport.
Insight pagePositiveValue68:01
The source views acquiring Brock Bowers in a trade as a win, though they acknowledge uncertainty regarding his health and current production. The source notes that when healthy, Bowers has shown high-end potential, including a 40-point game last season.
Insight pageBucky Irving
PositiveValue39:47
Bucky Irving is a buy-high target. He has looked like the best part of the Buccaneers' offense, and the source is high on his outlook.
Insight pageChuba Hubbard
PositiveUsage6:50
Despite limited carry volume (22 carries in two games), Chuba Hubbard has been productive with two receiving touchdowns and is viewed as the clear leader of the Panthers' backfield, making him a strong trade target.
Insight pageColby Parkinson
NegativeProjection44:06
The source notes that Parkinson was a streaming tight end last year who averaged 8.7 points, suggesting that even if a player like Ferguson is 10% better, it would only result in about 9.6 points, which would be a win relative to his draft position.
Insight pageD.J. Moore
NegativeUsage22:24
The source is attempting to trade DJ Moore for Chuba Hubbard, anticipating the trade will be rejected due to Moore's injury status.
Insight pageNegativeUsage70:41
The source expresses disappointment with DJ Moore's usage in week two, noting that he was not on the field enough even before his injury.
Insight pageDalton Kincaid
NegativeValue29:55
Dalton Kincaid is a sell-high candidate if you have depth at tight end, though the source notes he is easily a top-3 tight end rest-of-season if he maintains his current level. The strategy is to leverage his hot start to acquire early-round players who are currently underperforming.
Insight pageDavante Adams
NegativeBust34:56
Davante Adams is a sell-high candidate. His recent monster game occurred without Puka Nacua, and the source expects his production to decline significantly once Nacua returns. He has a history of struggling in tough matchups, and the source prefers George Pickens over him rest-of-season.
Insight pagePositiveProjection43:12
Despite poor catch rate and yardage stats last year, the source maintains that Adams is still a great player who can get open, dismissing the idea that his performance will change significantly when Puka Nacua returns.
Insight pageDe'Von Achane
NegativeValue7:16
Devon Achane currently holds higher trade value than Chuba Hubbard in the market, though the source notes his recent production has been disappointing.
Insight pagePositiveValue63:07
Despite poor efficiency (3.5 yards per rush) and a struggling Dolphins offense, the source suggests buying low on Achane, noting he is still seeing significant usage with 11 targets through two games and a high floor.
Insight pageNegativeUsage63:10
The source notes that while Devon Achane is on pace for 264 carries and 60 catches, his efficiency has cratered to 3.5 yards per rush. The source is convinced it will be a bad year for him relative to his draft position, citing a difficult upcoming schedule (Chiefs, Vikings, Bengals) and concerns about the team's overall quality.
Insight pageDeshaun Watson
Drake London
PositiveValue18:42
Drake London is a buy-low target who has shown chemistry with Michael Penix, making him a more reliable asset than Kyle Pitts.
Insight pagePositiveProjection51:56
The source advises starting Drake London this week, noting that his track record with Michael Penix is strong and that fantasy managers should ignore the first two weeks of production.
Insight pageDrake Maye
NegativeBust58:56
The source expresses significant concern (50-70% on the Worryometer) regarding Drake Maye, citing injuries to AJ Brown and the offensive line, as well as messy team performance, making him a potential bust candidate.
Insight pageEmmett Johnson
PositiveUsage5:45
Emmitt Johnson is expected to continue receiving an increased snap share and should be rostered in fantasy leagues.
Insight pageGeorge Pickens
PositiveValue22:55
George Pickens is a buy-low target. Despite inconsistent target volume, he remains heavily involved. A near-miss touchdown last week would have changed the narrative. He is a top-12 receiver on the trade chart and is preferred over Davante Adams rest-of-season.
Insight pageJ.K. Dobbins
NegativeInjury5:50
J.K. Dobbins was dealing with leg cramps, but the team expects him to be available to play.
Insight pageJalen Coker
NegativeValue29:47
Jalen Coker is a sell-high candidate to maximize value for players who were drafted as bench options. While the source acknowledges his massive upside and the improved Panthers offense under Brad Idzik, they suggest trading him to acquire struggling superstars.
Insight pageJameson Williams
PositiveValue29:02
Jamison Williams is a buy-low target. The source believes better times are ahead for Jared Goff and the Lions' offense as they get offensive linemen back from injury. The source is actively making trade offers to acquire him.
Insight pagePositiveValue67:31
In a trade evaluation, the source strongly prefers the side receiving Jamison Williams, stating that the side wins the trade.
Insight pageJayden Reed
NegativeInjury13:31
Jaden Reed has no timetable for return due to a neck injury, and the source suggests he is droppable unless you have an IR spot available.
Insight pageJaylen Warren
NegativeUsage60:59
The source has zero concern regarding Jalen Warren, noting he has been significantly better than Rico Dowdle and could potentially earn more carries.
Insight pageJeremiyah Love
PositiveValue23:35
Jeremiah Love is a buy-low candidate who is expected to see 15-plus touches per game in the second half of the season and eventually provide top-20 running back value.
Insight pageJonah Coleman
PositiveRole5:56
Nick Kosmider of The Athletic suggests that Jonah Coleman's role in the backfield will continue to expand even when the rest of the group is healthy.
Insight pageJonathon Brooks
NegativeInjury6:45
Jonathan Brooks is set to undergo surgery and is expected to miss approximately six weeks.
Insight pageKenyon Sadiq
PositiveRole17:31
Mason Taylor's injury might lead to increased opportunities for Kenyon Sadiq.
Insight pageKyle Pitts
PositiveValue18:46
Kyle Pitts is a buy-low target, though the source expresses caution about his usage and route depth, hoping for an overcorrection by the offensive coordinator.
Insight pageMalik Nabers
NegativeValue70:15
The source would prefer to have Malik Nabers over DJ Moore in a trade, provided his shoulder injury is not a long-term concern.
Insight pageMason Taylor
Matthew Golden
PositiveUsage52:53
The source is confident in Golden as a WR2 this week, citing the absence of Jaden Reed, which should concentrate targets among the main receivers, and a favorable matchup against a weak Falcons secondary.
Insight pageMike Evans
NegativeInjury15:45
Mike Evans is being managed due to an injury, and while there is no reason to panic, the source recommends having a backup option on the bench given Kyle Shanahan's history of downplaying injuries.
Insight pageParker Washington
PositiveUsage69:31
The source prefers keeping Parker Washington over trading for Rasheed Rice. The source highlights that Washington has been very efficient in his new role and looks like one of the best receivers in football right now.
Insight pageQuinshon Judkins
NegativeUsage61:57
The source is moderately concerned (35-50% on the Worryometer) about Judkins, though they note his increased involvement in the passing game, with a route participation rate over 40% in four straight games.
Insight pageRico Dowdle
NegativeInjury6:42
Rico Dowdle is currently day-to-day with an injury but has a chance to play this week against Cincinnati.
Insight pageSaquon Barkley
NegativeInjury12:13
There is limited information regarding Saquon Barkley's MRI, but the lack of negative news is interpreted as a potentially positive sign for his availability this week.
Insight pageStefon Diggs
NegativeValue41:16
Stefan Diggs is a sell-high candidate. He has three touchdowns in two games but is only playing about 60% of offensive snaps. The source suggests trading him to someone who views him as a must-start wide receiver.
Insight pageNegativeValue42:24
The source notes that while Diggs is currently performing as a top-12 wide receiver, he may be a sell-high candidate because his name value as an All-Pro can exceed his actual trade worth. The source suggests keeping him is also a fine option, projecting him as a flex or WR3 in most leagues.
Insight pageTerrance Ferguson
NegativeRole43:55
The source is not excited about Ferguson because they expect him to return to a limited role once Puka Nacua is back in the lineup.
Insight pageTerry McLaurin
NegativeUsage56:57
The source is not overly concerned about McLaurin (Worryometer 26-33%), noting that he should see high volume due to game script and that the transition from Jayden Daniels to Mariota may not significantly hurt his production floor as a WR3.
Insight pageTravis Etienne
PositiveValue64:30
The source believes this is the lowest point of Travis Etienne's value and that it is a buy-low opportunity. Despite frustration with his usage and the Saints' coaching decisions, the source expects him to be helpful and potentially perform like a low-end RB2.
Insight pageTucker Kraft
PositiveBreakout22:55
Tucker Kraft is a buy-low target; his route rate doubled from Week 1 to Week 2. Despite a dip in targets, he is being ramped up in the Packers' offense, especially with Jaden Reed injured and the run game struggling. He is a strong short-area target for Jordan Love with YAC upside, and the source prefers him over Kyle Pitts.
Insight pagePositiveProjection47:43
The source ranks Kraft as a top-10 tight end for the week, citing his 85% route participation in Week 2 and his historical efficiency against single-high coverage, which the Falcons play at a high rate.
Insight pageTyson Bagent
NegativeInjury5:29
Tyson Bagent is dealing with a concussion, which opens the door for Case Keenum or Caleb Williams to potentially start on Monday night for the Chicago Bears.
Insight pageXavier Worthy
NegativeProjection70:04
The source expresses a negative outlook on Xavier Worthy, stating that he still looks terrible on the field.
Insight pageFull transcript
Episode Transcript
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2:02What a play! It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
2:05Off to the races, and he stays on his feet!
2:09Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:12Okay, bye-lo, sell high, happy hump day. Wednesday, September 23rd.
2:15You know it's our favorite show, at least my favorite show.
2:18I love the Wednesday show. We have a great time.
2:22And Dave and Jamie and Heath are here. We're going to preview Thursday Night Football.
2:26Is this the beginning of the season for Drake London and Kyle Pitts?
2:31Should you be buying low basically in the next like 10 hours before the game starts tonight?
2:36And who should we sell high on, and which A-chan are we more worried about?
2:41Did you skip a day? What's that? You skipped a day.
2:44It's Wednesday. Oh, yeah. You got a few hours.
2:47It's Wednesday. It's my favorite show. You have 10 hours before the game kicks off.
2:52I thought we were doing that Wednesday Night Football thing again.
2:56Yeah. I didn't know what happened. Well, we're previewing the game, so I got really confused.
3:01Man, your last two intros are your last two shows we've done together.
3:05Wow. Oh, my gosh. You know what, Jamie? When Wednesday closes a door, Thursday opens a window.
3:10We got some news and notes for you. We'll fly through them real quick.
3:15We know Jaxson Dart will be out a while.
3:18We did a bonus show on that yesterday. So if you want to listen to it, we're not going to talk about
3:25it throughout the show, but we're not going to do the big analysis today.
3:29We already did that. Tyson Bajant has a concussion.
3:32Case Keenum could start on Monday night for the Chicago Bears.
3:36Or Caleb Williams could start, I suppose. And Sam Darnold has a chance to play this week at Washington.
3:42That could be a nice matchup for Sam Darnold.
3:45Running back news. Emmitt Johnson's going to continue to get more snaps, make sure he is rostered.
3:50J.K. Dobbins was apparently dealing with leg cramps, so we are going to expect him to play.
3:56But Nick Kosmider of The Athletic thinks that Jonah Coleman's role will continue to grow even when the backfield is healthy.
4:02We'll see what that means. Rico Dowdle is day-to-day.
4:05He could play this week against Cincinnati. Jonathan Brooks, Dave, is going to have surgery.
4:10He's going to miss about six weeks. It's weird that Chuba Hubbard only has 22 carries in two games.
4:16He does have two receiving touchdowns. They are 22nd in running back carries, even after a 34-3 win against Atlanta.
4:22I don't really know what to make of that.
4:25It's probably just statistical noise at this point. But I was thinking, like, should I trade?
4:31I don't have any Chuba Hubbard, unfortunately. But hypothetically, I don't even know what day it is.
4:36Should I trade Chuba Hubbard for Devon Achan? Because, like, I kind of feel like Chubbard might outperform him going forward.
4:43But what do you think? That trade will get accepted.
4:46I think people like what they're getting out of Chuba Hubbard, but they'll still take the upside that Achan has.
4:52And I know it's been gross so far for Achan, but he's still getting a lot of work.
4:58He's going to have his games. Sometimes that seems like a stretch to trade Chuba Hubbard straight up for Devon Achan.
5:05Two weeks from now, that might be one of the silliest things I've ever said.
5:10But for now, I think Achan is still getting more attention from the fantasy world.
5:14At least on the trade chart, it's definitely come out Achan ahead of Chuba.
5:19Now, if you want to put somebody with Chuba to get Achan, rather, you're going to give up Achan and you're going to get Chuba and something else?
5:28Yeah, I wouldn't mind that one bit. There are definitely some receivers that you can pair with Chuba Hubbard to have that work out nicely for you.
5:37Okay. Tell us about the trade chart real quick.
5:39Every week for the last 16 years, I've been creating a trade chart to help people make fair trades in their league.
5:46It's not based necessarily on what I think. It's based much more on public perception, future matchups for players, just what a
5:54player's value is going week after next. It's basically like giving a stock price to every player in the league.
6:00And then you just match up players to see if the prices match.
6:04And if they do, you've got a good one for one trader.
6:08You take two players and you add them together to the goal and get one other player.
6:13It's just a way to make trading easier because everybody's so scared about getting ripped off.
6:19This is something to help show people that you're not going to get ripped off and that there are ways to make fair trades in fantasy.
6:27And there's non-PPR, half-PPR, full-PPR trade chart values. And there's 2QB, 1QB, and then 1QB, 4.6 point values on the trade chart.
6:34You can look for it on my X page or you can just literally search CBS trade chart and it'll come up in your Google machine.
6:42Keith, you have your dynasty trade chart too, right?
6:45I do have my dynasty trade chart. We're updating dynasty rankings this week.
6:49Talked about it yesterday on the show and the trade chart will be updated soon.
6:54I look at that dynasty trade chart all the time, especially now since I'm tanking in one of my dynasty leagues and
7:01now maybe both of my dynasty leagues. So that thing is getting a lot of attention from me.
7:07So thank you for doing that, Heath. Vinny said, I traded Saquon Barkley for Chuba Hubbard and Kyron Williams.
7:13Who won the trade? You won the trade. You do such a great job.
7:17On the notes. And there's sometimes like on Wednesday or Thursday morning, I'm like, I've been searching and I can't find any news about this guy.
7:26What's going on with this guy? And usually when I see your notes, I see that somebody said something about it.
7:33Have we heard anything about Saquon's MRI? I was just thinking, how have we heard nothing about Saquon Barkley?
7:39It's so weird. Because he had an MRI. Yeah.
7:42I mean, he was going to get an MRI.
7:44I would hope that the fact that we haven't heard anything is a good sign because if it was bad, we probably
7:51would hear from a team source or an agent to one of the insiders.
7:56Again, I don't know what date is either, but they don't practice until Thursday.
8:00So we won't know what his status is until then.
8:04So that could be 10 hours from now. Did you skip a day?
8:08I'm moderately encouraged by Barkley playing this week. All right.
8:11Let's go to wide receiver news. Jaden Reed has no timetable.
8:15They even talked about not even knowing if Jaden Reed will be able to return this season.
8:20Right. Is he droppable? Yeah, unfortunately. Unless you have an IR spot and you want to save it, see what happens.
8:27Got to wait for him to go on IR first.
8:30There's a few like, this is just the frustration of like Tuesday transactions.
8:34You get a little bit more leeway with Wednesday when you have the Jonathan Brooks news, the Jaden Reed news, the Jackson
8:41Dart news, the Jaden Daniels news, like guys that are expected to probably go on short term IR and you have to wait until making a second transaction.
8:50So you lose out on a player or two that you might want.
8:54Yeah, absolutely. I have a couple notes in my phone to go back and check my teams.
9:00I have Dallas Goddard and Jaden Reed on one.
9:03That's another one. Yeah. Hoping that these guys move to IR, but also I'm just, just real to follow up on Jaden Reed.
9:10Is it possible that he just doesn't even go on IR, comes back quickly?
9:14Are all things on the table right here with Jaden Reed?
9:18I would guess based on what LaFleur said that that's probably not going to happen.
9:23So, you know, neck injury or back injury of his severity is probably something that they want to be cautious about.
9:30It's neck. Okay. Other news. We've got, oh, Puka Nakua status unknown.
9:33And of course it's a Sunday night game. So hopefully we don't have to sweat that one out.
9:39San Francisco signed Brandon cooks to the practice squad.
9:42Mason's. That's what they need is another old wide receiver.
9:45I, I think like I were projecting Mike Evans and there's no reason to, to like panic or anything yet, but I
9:52would, they play a four o'clock game this week.
9:55I'd like to have somebody on my bench that I could potentially put in for him late.
10:01Cause when Kyle Shanahan says we're going to have to manage him this week, like he kind of underplays injuries on occasion.
10:08I would, I would just like to make sure that I had a backup for Mike Evans, just in case I thought
10:15the cook signing was more about DeMarcus Robinson. Yes.
10:18And it doesn't have to do with Evans, but you're right.
10:21Like the track record is certainly there for Kyle Shanahan to downplay injuries.
10:25Hopefully, you know, it'll just be easy. If we see Evans practicing by Friday, then he should be good to go for Sunday.
10:33And there's actually a team in the FFT open Thomas Schaefer division called the substation players state players, substation player slayer.
10:39Very good team name there. We have another team, just a quick team name Tuesday on a Wednesday from Morgan.
10:46Watch me whip. Watch me vele. Very good. Tight end news.
10:49Mason Taylor week to week. Maybe that helps the, what's his stupid name?
10:54Kenyon Sadiq. Kenyon Sadiq. Thank you. It's okay. He was just a first round tight end.
10:59Charlie Kohler is hoping to return in four weeks.
11:02Brock Bowers expected to play this week. According to Ian Rappaport.
11:05The Green Bay Packers lost their starting right tackle and best offensive lineman for the season.
11:10That is terrible news for the Packers. And cornerback AJ Terrell is on IR for the Falcons.
11:16And defensive tackle David Onyemada is on IR for the Jets.
11:19And let's get into buy low and sell high.
11:22Here we go. Heath, you got Drake London on your buy low list.
11:26Jamie, you've got Kyle Pitts on your buy low list.
11:29Question for both of you. Heath, you can go first.
11:33Are you valuing Drake London the same way? You know what?
11:36And Kyle Pitts for that matter. The same way you did in preseason.
11:40So I think there's reason to feel just a little bit more optimistic about Drake London than Kyle Pitts.
11:46Because we've seen Michael Pennix just feed Drake London relentlessly.
11:50We've seen Drake London be a top six wide receiver with Michael Pennix.
11:54And so I'm probably a little closer to feeling exactly the same way I did before the season with London.
12:00I think there's reason to hope that they're both exactly what we thought they were.
12:05But London's more of a little more certain about it.
12:08I would agree. I did like the fact that the Falcons office coordinator came out this week and said they've done a poor job of involving Kyle Pitts.
12:17Came out yesterday, I think it was. So hopefully that's something that they overcorrect.
12:22We saw it with the Broncos, for example, when they did that with Jalen Waddell in week two.
12:27So it's really just more about, for both these guys, I'm sure everybody can see that, that it's going to be competent quarterback play.
12:35Kyle Pitts, I think, was on a live stream this week as well.
12:39And somebody asked him about his quarterback and he kind of chuckled that he'd get Pennix back.
12:45They all know that, you know, and it's hard not to, you know, foresee better production coming for both of these guys.
12:52You hope that what we were expecting in the preseason does come to fruition.
12:56It's just been a disaster across the board. Okay.
12:59So there you go. Drake London, second round caliber player, Kyle Pitts.
13:03I mean, I know Dave was not high on Kyle Pitts to begin with.
13:07And Dave and I noticed the route depth was up this year.
13:11But yeah, it's still a lot. It looked a lot like 2024.
13:15Week one, he was just running clear out so they could dump the ball off to Bijon, right?
13:21There was plenty of that. But just further downfield has never been a good look for Pitts.
13:26And that's what he was doing through the first two weeks.
13:30So I'm hoping that what the offensive coordinator said means shorter routes for Pitts and easier dump off passes and the type
13:37of thing that actually helped me buy into Pitts in the first place.
13:41That being said, I really don't like the idea of giving up much for Pitts.
13:46And you've really got to be struggling at – I'm sorry, Heath – but you've really got to be struggling at tight
13:53end to make a move for him. Because if he stinks on Thursday, we might see him hit the waiver wire in a couple of leagues.
14:01I do feel better right now about Pitts than I do Loveland.
14:05But what I was going to say was I just mostly don't think we've seen the offense the Falcons intend to run.
14:12Correct. Yeah, right, right. Forget those two games. I hope.
14:15Okay. Heath, you're also saying Jeremiah Love is a buy low.
14:19Yeah, I think – I mean, last week was a terrible matchup.
14:23He's basically – I think he's averaging 12.5 touches per game through his first two games.
14:28We had some concern that they do this too much Tyler Algier thing early in the year.
14:33However, I still think it's – he's not going to get unleashed to the point of Kenneth Walker or even to the
14:40point of 20 touches a game, I don't think, this year.
14:44But I do think that we're probably in the second half going to see 15-plus touches per game for Jeremiah Love.
14:51He's going to have some better matchups. He's going to pop off at some point and be valued much, much higher than he is right now.
14:59So I don't know that it gets a lot better immediately.
15:03But if you can buy low, I think even for – I think we all have him ranked right around RB30 this week.
15:10And that's probably about the consensus opinions. It's kind of what he's been.
15:14We got fortunate he scored a touchdown on week one.
15:17But I think we're still tracking towards the second half of the season.
15:21He's easily a top 20 running back. Right. And that's where he is on the trade chart.
15:27Would you rather have Chuba Hubbard or Jeremiah Love?
15:30What's my record? Your record's one and one. Probably Hubbard.
15:33Two and O, definitely Love. Really? Yeah. I think it depends on what you've got at running back.
15:39Yeah. And the nice thing about people who have Chuba Hubbard is they drafted him late.
15:44Right. So if you're rich at running back and you could feasibly get away without even using Chuba Hubbard in your lineup,
15:51then you could possibly trade him straight up for Love.
15:54I want to look into why Chuba Hubbard only has like 22 carries or something.
15:59Well, I think part of it's because they are throwing the ball a lot.
16:03Yep. And creating explosives. Yeah. So he has the second highest explosive play rate Bryce Young does, and he's averaging 37 and a half pass attempts per game.
16:12That doesn't leave much room for the running back.
16:15They are throwing the ball and going on the field.
16:18It's really just game two. Because game one, they were chasing points the entire game.
16:23You know, so it's why didn't they run the ball more?
16:27They were, but they were in a competitive back and forth game.
16:31I mean, in week one, they just, they have been very passive.
16:35They've been super aggressive, as you mentioned, explosives, but they're throwing the ball downfield all the time.
16:40And they went for it. They were, the Panthers were fourth and goal at the three yard line on their opening possession against Cooper Rush.
16:48I think you could have easily kicked a field goal there.
16:52They went for it through a touchdown at Chuba Hubbard.
16:55I mean, they are going for the jugular. And I really like what I'm seeing.
17:00And as I sit here and talk, I'm going, man, I think I want to, I think I want to go try to get me some Chuba Hubbard.
17:08So I don't have it. Like Jonathan Bruce could be out for six weeks at least.
17:14And he hasn't done anything. I mean, this guy is the clear runaway leader of this backfield.
17:19If this offense is good, Chuba Hubbard is going to just smash ADP.
17:23And by the way, he was a top 12 running back two years ago.
17:28Oh, I think he's going to smash ADP already.
17:31Yeah. Um, like, but what were all of the AG, AJ Dillon touches in garbage time?
17:36I think so. And they're working out Austin Eckler today.
17:39Yeah. That doesn't bother me. Um, I, no, it shouldn't bother you.
17:43I'm just, yeah, yeah, you're right. I should have mentioned it.
17:46Um, he had, let's see, he played four snaps, AJ Dillon and they were all, yeah.
17:51Last five minutes of the fourth quarter. Okay. Moving on.
17:55I'm sorry. You anything? No, no. I just say that was my biggest disappointment on the waiver wire last night was in
18:02the FFT open where I didn't have, where I had Jaden Daniels and no QB two.
18:07I didn't get Bryce Young. He went for 26%.
18:10You got to Sean Watson though. I did get to Sean Watson, which is super nice.
18:15It's basically the same thing. We got to take a break.
18:18Adam, all your guys are coming back to, to be good.
18:22Like who? No, no. Just Sean Watson. Oh, yeah.
18:25Sean Watson. Yeah. You want to, you want to, you want to buy him in the dynasty league?
18:31Uh, we got to take a break. Dave's going to tell you why Tucker craft and George Pickens are good by lows.
18:38Jamie's going to tell you why AJ Brown is a, is a good by low.
18:42We'll talk about if we're concerned about him long-term worryometer a little bit later.
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21:41Terms apply. All right. I'm putting out a tradeoff for now.
21:44DJ Moore for Chuba Hubbard. Once that gets rejected, I'll try to sweeten the pot.
21:49What makes you think that's going to get rejected?
21:52Because he's injured. But, you know, we'll see. All right.
21:55Buy low for Dave. Tucker Craft and George Pickens.
21:58I'll start with Craft, who saw his route rate basically double from week one into week two.
22:04The targets were cut in half from week one to week two, so that part kind of stinks.
22:09But I think we're getting the scenario that can make Craft an important part of this Packers offense.
22:15So he's being ramped up. We know he's coming back from an ACL.
22:19Jaden Reed is out. We don't know when he's coming back.
22:23The run game is a mess. We don't know when Josh Jacobs is going to come back and if the run game will ever be good.
22:31Here's the perfect short area target for Jordan Love to lean into and somebody who could also win further downfield.
22:38Many examples on film of him gaining big yards after catch.
22:41I just can't help but feel like his time is coming where he's going to be able to be a much, much,
22:48much, much better fantasy producer than what we've seen through the first two weeks of the season.
22:54The people who drafted Tucker Craft are probably ticked.
22:57They probably went to their waiver wire. There have been a bunch of other tight ends that you could have picked up off the waiver wire.
23:05I think Craft has the upside to be better than many of those tight ends.
23:10And you can get them on the cheap right now.
23:13Would you rather have Tucker Craft or Isaiah Likely?
23:16I have Likely over Craft, but they're dead even in non-PPR.
23:19So maybe you offer Likely and you get Craft and another player back.
23:23Sure. If you can make that work. I worry about how interested people are in Giants players in the wake of Jackson Darts injury.
23:31Yeah, it's true. Okay. And then George Pickens. I think we talked about this on Beyond the Box score.
23:37I mean, it just seems like not too much to worry about here.
23:41Right. He's still playing a lot and he's still getting one game with a lot of targets, one game with fewer targets.
23:48I do wish he were more involved inside the 10-yard line, but he had a touchdown opportunity last week on an out route.
23:56And Dak just got hit before he could really throw that ball with accuracy.
24:00And if he had thrown it with accuracy, Pickens would have been in the end zone and everybody wouldn't be freaking out.
24:07Still a top 12 receiver on the trade chart.
24:10But it's borderline and it's really close. And part of the reason why it's borderline is because Drake London, Ladd McConkie, neighbors, they haven't really had monster games.
24:19You know, McConkie had one nice game. Drake London hasn't had any nice games.
24:24Hopefully that changes this week. But we're still looking for receivers to kind of fill that role.
24:29And I think Pickens can still do it. So I would say if you can get him on the cheap, obviously he's somebody that has better days ahead.
24:38Biggest thing I think for Dallas so far is they're averaging 53 offensive plays per game.
24:43Yeah. The last three years with Schottenheimer and Dak, they have been one of the highest paced offenses in football.
24:50Average 65 and a half. And they still are very fast paced.
24:54They have one of the highest paces right now.
24:56Sixth in pace, but 28th in plays. They barely had the ball in week one against the Giants.
25:02And that's pretty close to where they were last year.
25:05Remember how we took that sliver of games where Quinn and Williams was on the defense?
25:11Yeah. And their defense was better. I think they were averaging around 56 plays per game.
25:16So it's a little bit off of that pace, but it's still right around where they were last year.
25:22Okay. And the receivers were good last year during that.
25:25Yeah. Sam. All right, Jamie, we got Kyle Pitts who you discussed.
25:29First Kyle, well, first Kyle Pitts or Tucker Craft.
25:32I'll ask you that. And then talk to me about AJ Brown and what you expect from him coming back.
25:38I would rather have Tucker Craft than Kyle Pitts right now.
25:42That could change Thursday night if Pitts looks awesome.
25:44But I think, I mean, I was drafting Kraft before Pitts anyway.
25:48So this is a perfect opportunity if you're 2-0 to go try and get AJ Brown.
25:53So you're looking at an AJ Brown team. I'm sure there's many of them that are 0-2 and struggling and certainly needing receiver help.
26:01And maybe you have something on your bench or another position that could help that manager.
26:06So as this continues to go and as you continue to win, that's the type of player you're looking to help you
26:13in the stretch run when he's healthy. Hopefully he'll be 100%.
26:17So it's the cheap time to get AJ Brown as opposed to having to pay up when he's closer to being back on the field.
26:25So, yeah, I think I mentioned this on my Monday show with Jacob and Dan.
26:30I'm worried about AJ Brown just because... What the hell?
26:33Sorry, my phone just screamed at me. I'm worried about AJ Brown just because this does...
26:38Like, I've given examples of players who have come back from high ankle sprains and been just fine.
26:44And I think you look at the way Jeremiah Love is running right now.
26:48I think he looks great. CeeDee Lamb last year.
26:51Saquon Barkley in the past. Jonathan Taylor in the past.
26:54All those guys missed about three weeks. This is obviously a more severe high ankle sprain.
26:59So I am hesitant to value AJ Brown the way I did before the season started.
27:05Not to mention they just lost their right tackle.
27:08But I don't know. It's just a guess on my part.
27:11I don't feel super confident in that opinion. But I don't know.
27:15I'm hesitant to value him. Yeah, I guess that's the question.
27:18Like, let's say... Do you think he's going to perform like a second rounder when he gets back?
27:24Do you think more like a third rounder? What do you think?
27:28Even if he's a top five round pick. So let's say fourth round, fifth round.
27:33You know, you're not... You shouldn't be going into this at this point giving up much.
27:38Because you're trying to help somebody that's got a zero.
27:41And give yourself a zero for the next at least three to four weeks.
27:46But the hope would be is by the time he comes back, your team is in such a great place that you're adding a significant asset to it.
27:55So it's just a matter of, you know, what the offers are.
27:58You know, so like I have Jalen Coker as a sell high.
28:02I wouldn't be selling Jalen Coker for AJ Brown right now.
28:06That could change in a few weeks. But that's the type of player I'd be looking to get if I was the AJ Brown manager in that range.
28:15Somebody that's on someone's bench or a frustrating start for somebody.
28:18But at the same time is a must start for me as the Brown manager.
28:23And looking at it, does Coker keep this up?
28:26And does AJ Brown certainly deliver on what the expectations were prior to the season when he is healthy?
28:32So I would guess the six-week time frame is built into what the severity of the ankle injury is because he's eligible to come back in four weeks.
28:41So we'll see just when he's going to be activated when he starts to ramp up.
28:46But if you're trading for AJ Brown, you're doing so with the idea of, I know my team has playoff capability to be a playoff contender.
28:55And I want to have this player at his best in December.
28:58I'm going to throw one more by low out there.
29:02Repeat from last week. I still believe in Jamison Williams.
29:05Agreed. He was somebody I considered mentioning as well.
29:08I think getting two, they were down, I mean, they're down their center right now.
29:13He's on IR. But they were down two offensive linemen on a short week against Buffalo.
29:18I believe both of those guys are going to play this week.
29:21So I think better times are ahead for Jared Goff.
29:25Remember, he had an opportunity to hit J-Mo on a big play and got sacked just before he was about to throw it.
29:32But I'm actually, I am in the process of making an offer for Jamison Williams in one of my leagues.
29:38And maybe George Pickens because they're on the same roster.
29:42All right, let's go to some sell highs. Jamie, you got Jalen Coker as a sell high.
29:47Oh, why? This is your guy. Ooh, that's a lot of rhyming right there.
29:52And you have Dalton Kincaid as well. Jalen Coker and Dalton Kincaid.
29:55It's just maximizing value for players that haven't done this before.
29:59And so, you know, like if you could turn Jalen Coker into George Pickens, I'm sure a lot of people would, you
30:06know, be open and excited about doing that. And the George Pickens manager may consider it.
30:11Probably take a little bit more to sweeten it.
30:14But it's just looking at players that were drafted as bench options and turning them into hopeful superstars that are struggling.
30:21So, you know, it doesn't have to be receiver for receiver.
30:24If you don't have, you know, the best running backs, you still believe in Devon H.
30:29And you want to trade Coker for H. And to an H.
30:33And manager that drafted A.J. Brown and may have, I don't know, some other receiver concerns based on the injuries.
30:40The laundry list is long. And the same thing with Dalton Kincaid, who was in most cases a late round tight end
30:47or a second tight end for a lot of managers.
30:50And if your tight end situation is good, it's turning that type of player into something else.
30:55I think they're both going to be very good.
30:58You just talked about what the Panthers offense is doing right now.
31:02It's a very underrated story. You know, we gave Davis Webb a lot of crap for what they look like in week one.
31:09And we haven't really talked about. Canales gave over play calling duties as well to Brad Itzik.
31:15And it's looked great so far. You know, so it's working.
31:18The tackles aren't there yet. Bryce Young could get, I don't know, better.
31:23But, you know, this may be something that's sustainable.
31:26And Coker looks fantastic right now. He did struggle with injuries last year.
31:30He already played through an ankle injury. Dalton Kincaid, we know about his history and his knee problems.
31:35So, I hope it's sustainable. Again, I'm not giving them away.
31:39I don't think you should be giving them away.
31:42I think there's massive upside for both of these guys.
31:45But it's just taking them when they're at their peak and maybe turning them to something that was expected to be great
31:52and hopefully will be great at the top of the draft that's struggling right now.
31:57Lad McConkie or Jalen Coker? Lad. I think I'd buy into Lad, but that's a little tougher with the rib injury.
32:04And what did he look like last week? Would you trade Jalen?
32:07Is it what he looked like or is it what the chart profits look like?
32:12Yeah. Really the offensive line. I'm going to look at the most traded list here.
32:17Chuba Hubbard is the most traded player in CBS Leagues.
32:20How about that? Would you trade Jalen Coker for Colson Loveland?
32:24They're about even on the chart. I think I'd rather have Coker.
32:28Coker's a little higher in full PPR and half PPR.
32:31I'd rather have Coker. I'd rather have Coker right now with the Caleb Williams injury for sure.
32:36Okay. Would you rather have Coker or Travis Achan?
32:39Who's higher on the trade chart? Achan. I'd rather have Coker.
32:43Coker. Interesting. Devon Achan or Coker? Devon Achan. I'd take the upside of Achan.
32:47You know I wasn't very excited about that. So it goes Achan, Coker, Achan is what you're saying.
32:53Right? Dude, we're a Chuba Hubbard injury away from there being the third one.
32:57I know. Someone said that in the chat. It's so funny.
33:01Well, Trevor Achan's on IR though, right? Yeah. Yeah.
33:04All right. We got – did you talk about Kincaid?
33:07I'm sorry. I just kind of lumped them together.
33:10You know, it's just – it's the same theory.
33:13It's two players that are awesome right now and should maintain a high level of play, but it's just the uncertainty of
33:20either injuries or never doing this before and maximizing value when it's available to you for guys that are – probably were
33:27drafted as bench players for you in the majority of the case for both of these guys.
33:32He's easily tied N3 rest of season. Oh, is he?
33:36If he stays at this level, absolutely. I mean, he might be better than that rest of season.
33:41Yeah. Don't sell high if he's tied N3. No.
33:44Again, you're not giving these guys away. There could be some scenarios of you drafted Kincaid and Kittle, right?
33:50And you're maximizing the value for Kincaid while Kittle works his way back.
33:55You may have drafted Loveland and Kincaid. You're not trading Loveland at this point when you have Kincaid.
34:00So there's very different ways that this could have all worked out for you.
34:05If you just drafted Kincaid as your only tight end late, you're thrilled about this.
34:10You're not giving him away. So it's just – if you have the ability to trade these caliber of players for superstars
34:17or struggling superstars or injured superstars that you have faith in rest of season, that's the type of reason to explore trading these guys.
34:24Yeah, okay. But it should be noted that if you have Jalen Coker and Dalton Kincaid, you've done well and you should expect to be able to start.
34:33These are not examples of guys who are off to a hot start and are going to crater.
34:39These are examples of guys that we believe in, but you got them really late.
34:44You can turn them into somebody who was drafted really early.
34:47Correct. All right. Kincaid more so than Coker, but yeah, same theory for both.
34:52Dave, Devante Adams and Omari and Hampton. These are some spicy names here.
34:56Adams coming off one of his best games ever, and Hampton scored in both games.
35:01They are on your sell-high list. Let's just repeat it again.
35:04This is not sell for what you can get.
35:07This is not these guys suck, and so get them off your team.
35:11This is sell-high. You're trying to maximize the value.
35:14It's literally what we've been talking about for years on this show.
35:18And Devante Adams having this monster game, who was absent for that game for the Rams?
35:23It was Puka Nakua. Do you think we're going to get games like this from Devante Adams when Nakua is back?
35:30Whenever that is. I don't think so. And there's a pretty serious track record, especially of Adams when he's got tougher matchups,
35:37where he's not nearly as good, like not even like 30% as good as what he did in week number two.
35:44So you have to kind of pull back. But here's a player that you drafted maybe a little bit later on, and
35:51expectations were a little bit lower, and people are desperate for wide receivers.
35:55You might be able to get quite a bit for Devante Adams and Trey.
36:00His next two games are at Denver and at Philadelphia.
36:03Perfect example. But then after that, I don't know about Buffalo.
36:06They might be all right. But Buffalo, Arizona, Raiders, Chargers, Commanders, Cardinals.
36:10That is an amazing stretch. It is. But hold on, just to finish up here.
36:15What did he do in tough matchups last year?
36:18Houston, Philadelphia, and two games against Seattle. He really struggled.
36:21He had touchdowns in three of the four games.
36:24But as we saw in week one, he wasn't on the field in 13 personnel in goal-to-go situations, which is something he dominated last year.
36:32That was Pukunakua in week one. He did score touchdowns, but he had 51-56, 1-89 yards in those four games.
36:38How many targets did he have in those games?
36:418-8-8-6. Okay. That's more than I thought he had.
36:44Yeah. And I remember he was shadowed by Stingley.
36:47I don't remember anything else there. But yeah, it really resonates with me because Adam is one of my most rostered players.
36:54But if I could just get one good game in the next two, I think he could go crazy in the games after that against great matchups.
37:03But I could be wrong. You know, obviously, no Puka certainly helped.
37:07By the way, I could have no Puka this week, too.
37:10This is the best call of all, though, of the sell-high candidates.
37:14But is he? Because this guy was a top 10 wide receiver last year.
37:18But he's not going to do this. He's not going to do this, but no one thinks he's going to do this.
37:25No one's trading. Well, you don't know that. I don't want to say Brown for him.
37:31You don't know that, though. You'd be crazy. Who would you rather have rest of the season, Adams or Puka?
37:37Puka. Okay, well, the Puka manager may be looking to do that because he doesn't know what he's going to play again.
37:44I don't know about that. You don't know how people can't.
37:48Okay, yeah, that's a layup. But who would you rather have rest of the season, Adams or Pickens?
37:53Pickens. Pickens. Pickens. And all you have to do is go back to week one and saw what Devonta Adams did in
38:00that game and realize that that's the kind of floor he had.
38:04Yeah, that's with Matthew Stafford. That was a horrible game for the Rams.
38:08Horrible game for the Rams. Matthew, everyone was. I love Sean McVay's shtick, by the way.
38:14I hope he does it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was fun.
38:17All right. I do think if we're going to say he's a seven target per game wide receiver, we know that he's
38:24a dynamite player in the red zone. He's going to get looks for touchdowns.
38:29He's going to be a number two wide receiver rest of season, and that's how he's valued on the trade chart.
38:36But if you can turn him into a top 15 receiver.
38:39Exactly. Or better yet, a top 15 running back, top three tight end.
38:43Like you're helping yourself. This is presuming that you've got other wide receivers that you can roll with.
38:49Yeah. Again, you're not giving him away. But this is maximizing the value of someone who's taking advantage of an injury on his team.
38:57I know. I'm not treating him. We need to give specific examples just because I mean, I think it should be obvious.
39:04Don't give him away. But I think when you say trade him for Pickens, extremely realistic.
39:09And the fact that all three of you said that, that is great actionable advice that you'd still rather have Pickens over Devontae.
39:16I think you'd have to throw in something with Adams to get Pickens, too.
39:21I don't think so. And another easy target for me would be Nico Collins.
39:25Yeah. Okay. Same exact thing. I don't love trading for injured players, but.
39:29No, I wouldn't. I would not trade him straight up for A.J.
39:33Brown. I would not trade him straight up for Rasheed Rice.
39:37I would not trade him straight up for Jameson Williams.
39:40If you wanted some running backs, I wouldn't trade him straight up for Tootin.
39:45Would you trade him for Bucky Irving? HN. Travis HN.
39:48Would I trade him straight up for Bucky Irving?
39:51Yeah. Okay. I like the way Bucky's looked so far.
39:54He's the best part of the Bucs offense. Yeah.
39:57I think that's a buy high, right? Bucky Irving?
40:00Yeah. Yeah. Amari and Hampton. Give me real quick on Hampton because Heath hasn't spoken in like 30 minutes.
40:06Top 20 in PPR points per game. Top 12 in touches per game.
40:10The offensive line is so bad. And you can kind of cherry pick around his biggest plays and see that he's just not an efficient runner.
40:18Fumble in each of his first two games. One of them was an embarrassing fumble.
40:23Kind of needed touchdowns to get good numbers. I would be leery of Amari and Hampton turning it on and being a
40:30top 12 running back rest of season. His schedule sucks.
40:33Buffalo. I don't know. That could be fine. Seattle, Denver, Kansas City by Rams, Houston, Ravens.
40:38That's getting then you got New England after that.
40:41This schedule sucks for Hampton. Wow. Yeah. This is one.
40:44This is an eye opening one here, which of course is funny for me to say because my eye can't open.
40:51If you've been noticing, I have this weird eye, but Heath did.
40:55I saw you guys laughing behind the scenes and I have no idea what that was about.
41:00I thought you said Heath talks. No, I said Heath hasn't spoken in 30 minutes.
41:05So Dave, go quick. So Heath can get. Oh, I know.
41:09So Heath can rep the chargers. No, Heath, go ahead on Diggs and Shuck.
41:13Stefan Diggs and Tyler Shuck are your cell highs.
41:16I'd still like to hear his opinion on Hampton and his teammates, to be honest.
41:21Okay. Uh, you know, I think I went with the lower end cell high guys, but Stefan Diggs has three touchdowns in
41:28two games and he's still playing like 60% of the offensive snaps.
41:32And I think you should probably see if someone thinks that Stefan Diggs is a must start wide receiver again and try to trade him to that person.
41:41Uh, we just had three quarterbacks get hurt. Tyler Shuck was drafted as your QB two.
41:46He's put up great numbers with miserable first halves and great second halves.
41:50It's kind of the Jacoby Brissett experience so far.
41:53Um, and I think that's the type of guy that like somebody is running to the waiver wire and they miss Bryce
42:00young and they had to schedule settle for Deshaun Watson.
42:03And you say, you know what? I've got Tyler Shuck.
42:07He can be your QB one. Look, he's QB seven right now and they're throwing all the time and he's going to be awesome.
42:14And go, go improve one of your other starting positions and then just find somebody else to be your QB two.
42:21Stefan Diggs, uh, is fifth in target per out run rate.
42:24It actually looks a lot like last year, except he's got these three touchdowns.
42:29It's not playing a ton, but he's heavily targeted.
42:32Um, so he, I'm kind of approaching him like maybe.
42:35Yeah. I mean, I could love to sell high for, I don't know, digs and somebody for pickings or whatever, you know, but I'm fine just keeping them.
42:44I don't think this is going to be a good week for him, but yeah, I think he'll be a flex, right?
42:51I think he'll be a, he might be a wide receiver three, the flex and a two wide receiver league.
42:57Yes. But he's got the name and Jamie talks about this a lot.
43:02Like a lot of times the guy with the all pro name that are currently producing like an all pro can get
43:09you more than their worth in a trade. Devante Adams probably falls into that too.
43:13He's obviously higher on the trade chart than digs is, but listen, digs is right now performing as a top 12 wide receiver.
43:21We've got a lot of years of digs being a top 12 wide receiver.
43:25There might be somebody in your league who believes he's a top 12 wide receiver.
43:30Did you guys watch Devante Adams? Like he, Oh, he was incredible.
43:34He was great. Yes. Yes. He's still a great player.
43:37I mean, I know the catch rate and the yards and all that stuff was bad last year, but this guy can still play.
43:45He can get open. Do you think that that changes anything for the offense when Puka's back?
43:50No. No. No. No. No. All right. We got to take a break.
43:55That's why I can't get that excited about Terrence Ferguson, because I think he goes back to a limited role when Puka's back.
44:02If Terrence Ferguson is just 10% better than Colby Parkinson, you win.
44:06Do you? You win what? Because Parkinson was a streaming tight end last year.
44:10So like you're getting a great, huh? Not really.
44:13I mean, remember the Seattle game? He was too.
44:16I mean, he was a little bit, but not on a consistent basis.
44:20Remember the Seattle game? Everybody bought it. Colby Parkinson averaged 8.7 points.
44:24So he's 10% better, be 9.6 points. That would be a win at where he was drafted.
44:29Exactly. Be okay. All right. Let's take a break.
44:32We'll talk about Atlanta and Green Bay. Dave, we missed you with the Thursday night theme song last week.
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46:28Sing it, Vanessa. Na-na-na-na-na-na. Ah! Ah! Who's Vanessa? Vanessa Franco, man.
46:31One of our diehard fans. She sings along to the theme song.
46:35Oh, okay. Stat of the game, that probably doesn't matter.
46:38But surprised me. The Falcons are third in pressure rate while being second to last in blitz rate, according to the true media.
46:46And pro football reference has them eighth in pressure rate with the fifth lowest blitz rate.
46:51And that's the thing about pressure rate. It's a little subjective.
46:54But they are getting pressure without blitzing on a team that we thought would have one of the lowest pressure rates in football.
47:02That's impressive. And they were second in sacks last year.
47:05But that's surprising to me. And I think it's relevant because we've got some offensive line issues for this Packers team.
47:12And they're on a short week here. And stat of the game that hopefully continues, the Packers have been top four in
47:19pass rate in each of the first two weeks.
47:22Heath, how do you see this game playing out?
47:24You know, I think that we're going to see a better Falcons offense.
47:29And it may be even more encouraging in the passing game in the second half because they're going to be chasing points.
47:36I think that Christian Watson and Matthew Golden and Drake London are all must-start wide receivers.
47:41You're obviously starting Bijon. Kraft, I would start over pits.
47:44I'm not super excited about either one this week.
47:47And Jordan Love's a borderline top 12 quarterback. You say you're not super excited about Tucker Kraft.
47:52Do you think he's just the kind of guy that you just kind of have to start him because he's going to
47:59have some big plays and big games? And he's going to have some bad games too?
48:05For the most part, yeah. Like this week is kind of interesting just because we had so many surprising tight ends emerge
48:12that I think you might have some tough decisions.
48:14If you've got somebody else as your tight end too.
48:18But most people are just going to start Tucker Kraft.
48:21And for what it's worth... There is something that's encouraging.
48:24They've given up touchdowns in every game to tight ends so far.
48:28Pat Fryer-Muth in week one and two to Darren Waller last week.
48:32So you have no Jaden Reed taking away whatever amount of target percentage that's going to be there, as Dave alluded to previously with the trading for him.
48:41And this feels like an opportunity for a get-right game for the Packers passing game.
48:46And I say that just coming off last week because they were great in week one.
48:51But that was against a team that pressures quite a bit as well from the Vikings.
48:56And Jordan Love handled it fantastic. They can't run the ball.
48:59So unless you're buying into this is going to be the game they get right running the ball, which it could.
49:06But I don't think the Falcons defense has got a lot of reasons to fear anything.
49:11But I don't know. This feels like a Jordan Love game.
49:15It feels like a get-right game going back home.
49:18Two straight games on the road for them. I'm hoping that it's a shootout from the standpoint of the Packers build a
49:25lead and the Falcons finally look like the Falcons offense that we were hoping to see.
49:30And all their main weapons, because Bijan is such a significant factor in the passing game, he comes to play also.
49:36But calling Tucker Craft, I think he's nailed it.
49:39There's so many different tight end options you can look at this week between Friermuth's history against the Bengals and what he could do there.
49:47And Terrence Ferguson, if there is no Buka. And Hunter Henry and the potential that he has.
49:53Jawan Johnson. There's just so many different options that you may be able to pivot to Dalton Schultz if you were in a league where he's still available.
50:02So I don't think it's a slam dunk. You have to start Tucker Craft.
50:06But there's plenty of reasons to be optimistic about it this week.
50:10I'll give you one more. Atlanta plays single high at a very high rate.
50:15And I think they do deserve credit for having a good pass rush.
50:19And that's something that we really didn't think that they'd have.
50:22And here they are getting some pressure on the quarterback.
50:26Last year, and this is a last year stat, but Tucker Craft had an amazing target per route run rate against single high coverage.
50:33The reason why Atlanta does it is to try and stop the run.
50:37Last year when they didn't have A.J. Terrell, they leaned even more into single high coverage.
50:43And it's the same defensive play caller as it was last year.
50:46I know they changed coaching staffs, but they kept Jeff Ulbrich.
50:50I think that there are some huge opportunities for Tucker Craft building from week one to week two in terms of just playing more.
50:58Week two to week three, getting back on track with targets and making some plays.
51:02I think it all comes together this week. A top ten tight end for me.
51:07Yeah, just interesting if the Falcons play single high to stop the run, are they going to do that against a Packers team that can't run?
51:16I think it's just what they do. I don't think that they're going to suddenly change what they do.
51:22And they play some too high. Every defense doesn't stay static.
51:25But I do think that just the majority of the snaps that they'll play will be single high.
51:31Unless they play some early too high and they're really successful with it, then they maybe pivot.
51:36Maybe. But otherwise, I'd buy into just what we've seen.
51:40This is what the spots say on the leopard skin.
51:43Or maybe what the feathers are on the Falcon.
51:46Given the bird versus. All of our closes. All right.
51:49All right. Let's read some chat questions real quick.
51:52We'll come back to this game. But Stark, Drake London or Luther Burden?
51:56London. We're just start London this week. Okay. Forget about what you've seen the first two weeks as it pertains to London.
52:03And sort of what it pertains to picks. The track record with London with Michael Penix is really good.
52:09Yeah. But Penix is coming off another serious injury.
52:12He's shaking off the rust. But still, we're going to start Drake London.
52:16Start Tucker Craft or Isaiah Likely? Like. I have Likely one spot higher.
52:20Likely. Sorry. Craft or Kittle? I'd go Kittle. I've got Kraft higher.
52:24I've got Kraft higher. But those guys are a coin flip for me.
52:28Especially if Evans is out. Oh, yeah. I think if Evans is out.
52:32Then Kittle gets the nod. Right. Thursday that we were.
52:36But we're not going to know that by Thursday.
52:39One of the differences just. It could. This could change in week three.
52:43But in week two, Tucker Craft ran 85% of the routes.
52:46George Kittle ran about 50%, I think. Mm-hmm. Craft or Laporta?
52:50Sam. Laporta. Sam. Matthew Golden or Denzel Boston? Golden.
52:53Golden. Agreed. Matthew Golden or Jalen Coker? Coker. Matthew Golden.
52:56Or. All right. Let's talk about Matthew Golden. Then I'll come up with some comps.
53:01How about Josh Downs or Matthew Golden? Golden. I've got Golden one spot ahead of Coker.
53:06I'd go Downs over Golden. How about Bajal Tootin against the Patriots or Golden?
53:10Or Golden. Golden. Golden. Golden in full PPR. All right.
53:13So you guys are pretty confident in him. You have him ranked in the top 24.
53:19Jamie, why the confidence in Matthew Golden? Didn't have a great game.
53:229.8 fantasy points last week. No, but I think we get closer to what we saw in week one.
53:29Not 12 targets, but just more opportunities. Again, no Jaden Reed.
53:32So you're looking at a situation here where there should be concentrated targets to the three main guys.
53:38We love that. Beat up secondary for the Falcons.
53:41Not a very good secondary for the Falcons, even when they're 100%.
53:45And so I'm hoping that we just get some shots down the field and some explosives from a player that's capable of doing it.
53:52And so I don't remember what it was, but after week one, like five times in his career, he's had at least five targets.
54:00He scored at least 11 PPR points. So the floor is kind of safe because you kind of know he's going to
54:07get opportunities given the state of the receiving core here for Green Bay.
54:11I think he's just given the state of receivers and the matchup that he has, he's an easy number two receiver this week.
54:19Okay. And Christian Watson is more like a number one receiver this week.
54:23We're going to keep starting him. And that brings us to Jordan Love because we're not starting any Packers running backs and
54:30we are starting Bijan and we're starting London and Kyle.
54:33Well, I don't know if we talked about pits, but he's 11th for Jamie 15th for day of 15th for Heath.
54:40That was as of yesterday, 13th for Jacob. If you have any pits questions, fire away.
54:45I see Jordan Love or Bryce young. Yeah. Okay.
54:48How about Jordan Love or Gino Smith at Detroit?
54:51Love. Oh, love. Jordan Love or Dak Prescott against the Ravens?
54:54Dak. Agreed. How about Shuck against the Raiders or Love?
54:57I have Love one spot higher. I have Shuck higher.
55:01How about Jordan Love versus Matthew Stafford at Denver?
55:03Love. I have Love one spot higher. Okay. You know, I could take the, you know, the Michael Jackson song.
55:10What's the one it's like? Which one? Say You'll Be There.
55:13We talked about the River Jordan. I could make a Jordan Love song.
55:18What do you think? Why are you trying to make songs?
55:21Okay. That's it for the Packers DST. Start or sit.
55:24I don't mind them. Just because it's the matchup.
55:27Yeah. They're borderline. Like the Niners better? I have the Niners right behind them.
55:32Niners all day. All week. What about all month?
55:34How about Patriots at Jacksonville? Patriots DST, Jags DST, or Packers DST?
55:38Patriots, Packers, Jags. Interesting. I have the Packers the highest.
55:42All right. All right. Say it. He wants to say the Patriots.
55:45I do have the Patriots the highest, but also I think the idea that somebody has the Patriots, the Packers, and the
55:52Jags defenses to make a decision is a little outlandish.
55:56It's a waiver wire. Like you have the Patriots.
55:59You could pick up the Packers. You have the Jaguars.
56:02You could pick up the Packers. That kind of thing.
56:05All right. Let's go to the Warrior. Oh, that's it for Thursday Night Football.
56:09No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. All right.
56:13We got the Worryometer. We got Grade the Trade to end the show.
56:17Cole Trickle is putting Terry McLaurin on the Worryometer on a scale of zero to 100 on our cool, slick-looking Worryometer.
56:24Where are you guys on Terry McLaurin? Jamie, Dave Heath.
56:27It's out of 100, right? Yep. I haven't seen this.
56:30What's cool? 17%. Wow. It's pretty low on McLaurin.
56:33All right. Dave? I'll go higher. I'll say 33.3%.
56:3628%. I think we got to put it at like the 26, 27 range there on Terry McLaurin.
56:41Why not more concerned on Terry McLaurin, Jamie? Well, I think we're going to get some situations where they're throwing the ball
56:49a lot because of their defense and just, you know, game script.
56:52And I was encouraged by McLaurin last week. I was discouraged in week one, but I was encouraged last week.
56:59And I know it's going from Jayden Daniels to Mariota.
57:02I don't know how much of a dropout that is, to be honest with you, in terms of how McLaurin will perform.
57:09Because Mariota will give him chances to produce at a lower level, but still enough that I think you guys are still starting.
57:16To me, he was a number three receiver. I'm still starting with a number three receiver.
57:22So I didn't really have high expectations once they signed Stefan Diggs.
57:25So I don't know. The targets last week were more encouraging to me.
57:30And it felt like they were just trying to get him involved.
57:33Okay. Yeah, he's got a 30% catch rate. 31%.
57:36That's obviously ridiculous. And three almost touchdowns last week.
57:39But that was Dallas, you know. He's got Seattle.
57:42Then maybe Sauce Gardner the week after that. There's good ones.
57:46There's bad matchups for him. All right. This is from Mr.
57:49Not So Wonderful. Get out of here, dude. We don't like you.
57:53Worryometer on Drake May for the whole season. Drake May.
57:5653%. 49%. Wow. 46%. Ooh. Okay. We're all in the same neighborhood.
58:0050. Let's go. We'll call it 50%, whatever. Right around 50% worried.
58:04Dave, why are we worried about Drake May? AJ Brown gone for a month.
58:08The rest of the receiving core, kind of a question mark.
58:12Offensive line took a hit, losing their right guard already.
58:15May himself looking terrible in week one, looking a little bit better in week two.
58:20Just seems a little messy in New England. And it's tough to look at Drake May the same as we did during the run-up to fantasy drafts.
58:29You guys think he's going to be just a massive bust?
58:32I think it's got to be in consideration if we're thinking that there's a 50% chance that we're, I mean, that he's a 50% on the Worryometer.
58:41What does that mean? Adam, what does that mean?
58:44That means I'm not starting him. That means I'm genuine.
58:47If he's a 50% of the Worryometer means I'm genuinely concerned that I am not going to have a usable, startable player in Drake May.
58:55That he's just going to be a bust. And if he were at 100%, we'd probably just say to drop him.
59:02Yeah. I think so. I think he's... So is this a Worryometer or a Dropometer?
59:06It's a Worryometer. I think if you like your team and you are comfortable with Tyler Shuck or Bryce Young, depending on
59:13what your other quarterback situation looks like, this is a good trade candidate.
59:18Because he has not played well for a while.
59:20Mostly it's against the playoff teams and the first two games of the season, which are Seattle and Pittsburgh.
59:27And so while the schedule is still not as favorable as it was last year, once he gets A.J.
59:33Brown back, there's still the potential of what we thought he was going to be coming into the season.
59:39So if you're looking for a playoff caliber fantasy option that you can get as cheap as he'll probably be, this is
59:46the type of guy to go get. I want to change my answer.
59:50He's like a 70% on the Worryometer. I'm pretty worried about what he'll be rest of the season.
59:56Okay. All right. This next one is from Savini.
59:59Jalen Warren and Quinchon Judkins. We'll go Jalen Warren first.
60:02Heath, let's say Dowdle at most misses one game, right?
60:05That's not a factor, let's just say. How worried are you about Jalen Warren?
60:09Zero percent? Right. Yeah. Well, it's not much to worry about, I think.
60:14In fact, he's been so much better than Rico Dowdle.
60:17Maybe he starts getting more carries. But how about Judkins?
60:2035%. Dave Judkins? 50%. Heath? Oh, Jamie? 42% on Judkins.
60:23Zero on Warren. All right. So Judkins is, yeah, 42% right around there.
60:27But encouraging that he has been more involved in the passing game.
60:31He ran 46% of the routes. Four straight games dating back to last year with a route participation rate over 40%.
60:38He did not do that in any of the first 12 games of his career, though he did come close in some of them.
60:46And he has four or more targets in three of his last four games dating back to 2025.
60:51So that's not bad for Judkins. Sorry if you listened to Monday's show.
60:56I already said that stuff. But it has been a tough start.
60:59If you were drafting today, what round do you think for Quinchon Judkins?
61:04Seven the earliest. Six. All right. You can have him.
61:07We just got a game where the game script was relatively favorable for him, and he didn't even get 10 PPR points.
61:14And this one is from Travis. Both A-chan's. Let's start with Travis A-chan.
61:18Let's start with Devon. Let's start with Devon A-chan.
61:21I'll try to fish out this stat from Ryan Heath at Fantasy Points about Devon A-chan.
61:26While I do that, Heath, Dave, Jamie, 0 to 100, worryometer for Devon A-chan.
61:3135%. I'll go higher than that. I'll say 55%.
61:3320%? Well, so that's weird because Jamie was the low guy on him.
61:38But this is what I expected, though, so why am I not worried?
61:42Right. And I had higher expectations, so I'm more worried.
61:45Well, you didn't expect him to be bad, though.
61:48No. Oh. I mean, I didn't expect him to be this bad, but I expected this situation to be bad, and this situation's bad.
61:56This is one of the worst offenses that we've seen in a very long time.
62:00Okay. A couple things from Ryan Heath. Excluding kneels, sacks, scrambles, and throwaways, the Miami Dolphins are averaging 46.5 plays per game this year.
62:08The worst full season mark in the Fantasy Points data era belongs to the 2025 Raiders at 50.1.
62:14So there's that. They're going to run more plays.
62:17And then two, it was specifically about A-Chan and basically his usage.
62:21Anyone getting his usage is almost guaranteed to be, you know, have like a floor.
62:25God, I wish I remember what it was exactly.
62:28Have a floor of, you know, higher than, much higher than this.
62:32Like a good floor. Basically, it was screaming buy low on Devon A-Chan.
62:36But, you know, we got unique circumstances here. They haven't run a play inside the five-yard line.
62:42Maybe they've run one. So, yeah, they've run one in two games.
62:46He actually got a carry at the two-yard line and got stopped for a loss.
62:50But, um... And look, the pro and con of it, pro for Devon A-Chan, con for Malik Willis, is he's not...
62:57There's not a lot of design runs at all.
63:00So they are not giving him the things that I thought were going to be a problem for A-Chan.
63:06He's been more involved in the passing game than I expected.
63:1011 targets through two games. Actually, how about this?
63:12Because so far, he's on pace for 264 carries, Devon A-Chan.
63:16Last year, he had 238 in 16 games. He's on pace for 60 catches.
63:21Last year, he had 67 in 16 games. So it's lower, for sure.
63:25But it's still 60 catches. Just the efficiency hasn't been as good.
63:29It's cratered. It's cratered. 3.5 yards per rush is decidedly not Devon A-Chan.
63:33Yeah, he'll have a blow-up game at some point.
63:36And you'll either decide that this is the time to trade him, or you'll think that this is the beginning of something.
63:43It's just, this is a very bad team. And I'm hoping, for their sake, it's by design.
63:48To just load up for 2027, find your quarterback, and make that the starting point of what your reset is for your franchise.
63:55It was not going to be a good year for A-Chan.
63:59I'm convinced it's going to be a bad year for him, based on where he was drafted.
64:04I'm still hopeful that the workload will get him to some quality performances.
64:09I just don't know where the ceiling will be for him over the course of the year.
64:14And I think I hate his upcoming schedule. Chiefs, Vikings, Bengals, who have clearly a good run defense, and then a bye.
64:21So I don't know if now is the best time to go get Devon A-Chan, but he is Devon A-Chan.
64:27You can always make your week in one play.
64:30And we'll do one more here on the Worryometer, and we'll go with Travis A-Chan.
64:35Travis A-Chan. 75%. It just doesn't make any sense.
64:38I put him the same as I have at Devon.
64:41It makes no sense. It doesn't make any sense.
64:44You know, it would probably help if he would do something.
64:48Give him a chance. Give him the ball. He's averaging 4.2 yards per carry.
64:52Yeah, it was a little fluky. He had one long run on a give-up play.
64:57Same with – I hate that Alvin Kamara injury happened when it happened because I was so out on Travis A-Chan.
65:04And then it's just like, okay, here. He's going to be the guy.
65:08It just – like you sign him the first day free agency opens.
65:12Yeah. You make Alvin Kamara jump through hoops and restructure his contract to stay.
65:17The first week of the season, you split touches with Kendra Miller.
65:20Then you make Miller a healthy scratch, and then Kamara comes back, and you give him all that work.
65:26It just makes no sense whatsoever. I think you have to hope for the coaching staff realizing, okay – and they probably
65:34knew it already because of all the hoops they made Kamara jump through, but they recognize that Kamara just can't do what he used to do.
65:42And they put him into the Marvin Harrison closet of, you're going to play some, but you're not going to get the ball much.
65:50And then all those opportunities fall into A-Chan's lap.
65:52But he just – he's never been a super explosive back in the NFL.
65:57Certainly not even last year. He just got a lot of work.
66:01And I think you have to hope for him getting a lot of work in this high-powered Saints offense.
66:07He had a touchdown taken off the board last week.
66:10If that had counted, you'd feel a little bit better about A-Chan.
66:14I think that he will be able to be helpful.
66:17But where were we drafting him? Or at least round three or four, somewhere in that range?
66:23I don't know if he's ever going to – he might get close to that.
66:27He might act like a fifth-rounder and a low-end RB2.
66:31But I don't know if he's going to be top 15 type of running back.
66:35Do you feel like this is the lowest point of Travis A-Chan's value?
66:40Clearly, we can't think he's going to be as good as we thought.
66:44But do you think that this is the valley?
66:47And that maybe you can go get him? Yes.
66:49I'm going to say yes. This is low. Name that movie.
66:53I think you can go get him now. Oh.
66:56You're going to tell me how I'm going to do it.
66:59Superman 2. You want me to go get him?
67:02No. Let's see how he reacts. Interesting. I think you can go get him now.
67:07Okay, it's Major League. Rick Vaughn. Yes, yes, yes.
67:10Oh. All right, let's grade some trades. Heath, you ever seen Major League?
67:14Yep. Yeah, I've seen Major League a few times.
67:17You think Dan has? Yes. No chance. All right, I'll say yes.
67:21Double or nothing on our dollar bet. Okay, okay.
67:24I've already 1-0 with Scarface. There's no chance he's seen Major League.
67:28I love this game. We have to do this every day.
67:31Grade the trade from Lewis. Colston Loveland and Antonio Williams.
67:34I have Terrence Ferguson and Arande Gadsden at tight end.
67:38For Harold Fannin Jr. and Jamison Williams. So Loveland and Antonio Williams for Harold Fannin and Jamison Williams.
67:43Love it. Love it. The Williams side wins. The Jamison side wins.
67:47Jonathan Brooks placed on IR. Okay. So Dave is giving that trade an A, it seems.
67:52And frankly, not shocking. B. B for Heath. And we'll move on.
67:56Justin from a city in Northeast Pennsylvania. Allentown. I don't know if that's Northeast.
68:01That's more East. Send DeAndre Swift. Receive Brock Bowers.
68:04A-. Getting Bowers, that's a win. I just don't know what to expect from Bowers.
68:08Exactly. It's a real question mark. That's how I feel this week.
68:12But I think that he's going, when he gets healthy.
68:15Yeah. Did he get healthy last year? I was going to say, just rewind to 2025.
68:20And the same thing is, when he gets healthy, he'll just be amazing.
68:25I mean, I think he was, I remember Azar statting some, I wasn't that wrong about Brock Bowers.
68:30Because he averaged 16 points per game in his healthy games or something.
68:35Yeah, he had that one huge game. Yeah, the 40-point game against Jacksonville.
68:39Let me ask you this. If you got last year's version of Brock Bowers, like after he came back from missing two
68:46games or whatever it was, would you rather have that or Swift?
68:50Swift. Swift. Yeah. Okay. But there's a reason to think it'll be better than that.
68:54All right. J-Man in New York. Give Hampton, Rice, and Mayfield.
68:58Hampton, Rice, and Baker Mayfield. It's a 2QB league, by the way.
69:02Get Scadaboo, Flowers, and Shuck. That's a win. Money, money, money, money.
69:06Sorry. Keep going. Money. Wow. Give it a grade.
69:09Can your voice get that high? I've never tried.
69:11Wow, you really. A minus. You really know Dan.
69:14Oh, yeah, no chance. He said, is that the one with Rosie O'Donnell?
69:19Then he said he's just kidding. He said he's just kidding.
69:22Oh, okay. But he's never seen it? No. All right.
69:25This is from Eli. So I owe you $2 now?
69:28Yeah. This is great. Eli Spangler, 12-team, half PPR.
69:31I got offered Rasheed Rice for my Parker Washington.
69:34No. Keep Parker. It's a D for me. Yeah.
69:37I'll say C minus. I think there's some encouraging things in the Rasheed Rice that I think it could be better.
69:44But I'd slightly prefer Parker Washington. He's been very efficient in this new role.
69:48So he had a 31-yard catch at the very end of regulation where they just let him run.
69:54And I think that kind of helped. But I thought he looked like crap in week one.
70:00And I thought he looked better in week two.
70:02I thought the end-breaking route looked good. I think Xavier Worthy still looks terrible.
70:07But Parker Washington looks like he's one of the best receivers in football right now.
70:12Right. He's insanely good. Like this guy. Unbelievable. All right.
70:15From Tanner. Is this a buy-low opportunity on Malik Neighbors?
70:18Should I trade DJ Moore to get Malik Neighbors?
70:21I'm 2-0. If his shoulder's okay, I would say yes.
70:24We don't know if it is. But it's also we don't know if DJ Moore's shoulder's okay.
70:30So I guess that's fair. Yeah, I'd rather have neighbors.
70:33I would too, but it's close between the two of them.
70:36Very close. We are still talking about J-Mo. I mean, J-Mo is great for receivers.
70:41I was really upset. Really disappointed with DJ Moore's usage in week two.
70:45Even before he got hurt. He just wasn't on the field enough.
70:49Right. All right. Last one here from Mike. Well, he got banged up in week one.
70:54Maybe that was part of the reason why. Maybe.
70:57From Mike. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. 2-0 with Bowers supposedly coming back.
71:01I have Juwan Johnson. So I offer Devante Smith and Juwan Johnson for Drake London and Colston Loveland.
71:07He doesn't need Juwan Johnson. He has Bowers. It's a B.
71:11I like the upside of having Loveland in case.
71:14And I think London and Devante are close enough.
71:16All right. That's it for today's show. Thank you very much for watching and listening, everybody.
71:22Tomorrow we will break down the AFC home games.
71:24And yeah, that's all I got for you. Talk to you later.
71:28Reality versus fantasy. Wednesday evening on YouTube. Yes. Awesome.
71:31We will talk about the Bears. We will talk about the Chargers.
71:35We will talk about Cajun honey butter wings. Really?
71:38Yeah. They sound gross. Oh, yeah. They sound good, I guess.
71:41That's with Scott Turner, who's got more insight than all of us combined.
71:46So that's one you definitely want to listen to.
71:49And Dave, Jamie and Heath are on CBS Sports Network at noon Eastern tomorrow.
71:53And I am off to the optometrist tomorrow. See you later.
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